303:  three times now I've seen her And every time {NS} #1 I'm a see if she wants to come up here. #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
303:  {NS} And see me see how I look. I told her she wouldn't have had much if she got up here and see me. She says oh you don't know nothing. You don't know that. {NS} Well I do know her. {NW} She said you know the last time I seen you dressed up and down then three times you's w-wife was looking in I didn't have no right saying nothing to you.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  {NS} And so {NS} I don't know how I've come without a wife I don't same time I don't want nobody.
Interviewer:  {NW} But why are why were you gonna go see her then?
303:  huh?
Interviewer:  How'd you How is it then that she's going to come see #1 you're going to go see #
303:  #2 Yeah she's coming to see me. # {NS} and uh And when she looks at I told her not to slip up on me. I don't want to start anything. {NS} Clean up a little
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  She said and {NS} said she says I won't do that. Said I'll let you know when I'm coming.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  mm I told her she'd come I said now {NW} when you see me and you you more ill than I am and I know that you're sixty-five and I'm I'm in my seventies. We're about and getting into my ages and I said now I'm too y- old for that She said you don't know that. and so {NS} I hope she brings s-s-see me. She said well {NS} I don't want you. {NS}
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  #1 I hope she'll say that. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
303:  I done got myself into it.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  But now she said
Interviewer:  What if she decides she wants you? {NS} #1 What are you going to do? #
303:  #2 I just drop my head and stay down. #
Interviewer:  {NW} {NS} yeah
303:  and {NS} well What time is it?
Interviewer:  I don't have a watch #1 on me. #
303:  #2 Let me # see what time {NS} {X}
Interviewer:  yeah {NS} {NW}
303:  {X}
Interviewer:  yeah {NS} okay um {NS} This is a kind of animal it's black got black and white stripes and it's got a real strong smell to it.
303:  That's a monkey?
Interviewer:  No it's it's a common one around here. It's got a real strong smell. {NS} {C: incoherent radio chatter throughout next chunks}
303:  Oh what'd you say a black?
Interviewer:  black and white {NS}
303:  It ain't a billy goat is it?
Interviewer:  no I'll tell you about it Well what are some animals that might come in and and get the hens? {NS} invade your henhouse
303:  well {NS} {NS} I've got to sort an answer there. would it black uh polecat?
Interviewer:  okay
303:  {NW} {NS} yeah
Interviewer:  You ever smell one of those?
303:  Oh Lordy Kill one out there here about a month a little one Went out there {X} to get to wait for that open rain get that scent away from you. and it rained in the next day or two three days. {NW} Took it over back over there and throwed it away. Got rid of it. That rain washed the scent away. But it took it two three days. rain before washed it away and {NW}
Interviewer:  yeah um Say some animals have been coming and getting your hens. You didn't know exactly what kind they were. What might you say? Might say I was going to get I'm going to get me a gun and kill those
303:  I'm gonna kill kill the Satan eating my chickens up. I had two hens that were eat up here. about uh {NS} three weeks ago and another one here last week. And I think it's a possum.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and uh was going to get my gun and go out there and kill it. in the car if you crawl from the road down there it's two of them.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  great big and about that long {NS}
Interviewer:  right #1 {X} #
303:  #2 and uh # I killed them down there when they was crossing the road and I told that boy if he'd take them off I'd give him a dime. So he took them off back where I told him. Creek in the water.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  So them oil I ain't had none killed since.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {NS}
303:  It must've been that old possum that killed him.
Interviewer:  yeah Do you use the word varmints?
303:  huh?
Interviewer:  Do you use the word varmints? {NS}
303:  {X}
Interviewer:  Do you use the word varmint?
303:  Y-yeah I use the word varmint.
Interviewer:  What does that mean?
303:  It means uh fur a var- a var- it it if you {NS} {C:static on the word varmints in the next line} hunt varmints possum coon a cat a weasel
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  uh mink So I call them varmint.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh things that you hunt for their fur?
303:  That's right. uh That's how I used to hunt for it. I makes a entire fifty dollars from that.
Interviewer:  yeah what #1 How would you do that? #
303:  #2 fifty dollars a night. # Well I had my dog and I'd just take my gun and lantern and go on out catch me up four or five every night. As much as I can get back home with it.
Interviewer:  four or five what?
303:  possum coon a polecat sometimes mink sometimes a weasel {NS} And didn't catch the same amount every every time I went out but I catch some of one kind nearly every time I go on out.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {NS} Okay what about a bushy tailed animal? lives up in the trees
303:  That's a coon.
Interviewer:  Okay what about one that is smaller than that just a little thing that you find even in a city. {NS}
303:  uh {NS} Uh I forgot what they call that.
Interviewer:  I'm thinking of squirrels.
303:  Squirrel yeah.
Interviewer:  What kinds of squirrels are there?
303:  There's a gray squirrel and there's a there's a fox squirrel.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  The fox squirrel's bigger than the gray squirrel. The fox squirrel's red.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {NS}
303:  and brown and red {NS} And the gray squirrel is red from then and to again {NS} He's uh gray all over.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  I used to kill them. Then I went and eat them. {NS} when I got one on the farm
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  And I ain't killed none since I been here.
Interviewer:  What about something similar to a squirrel? only it can't climb trees {NS}
303:  uh {NS} You mean a ground squirrel is it?
Interviewer:  What's that look like?
303:  He's a little striped thing just like a uh a watermelon. Just stripes running up and down his back and he's got a little short tail uh three or four inches long
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and {NS} He's slick. And they call him a ground squirrel and he's he totes his food in his mouth
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  totes his food {D: in his cheek nuts} or one and he just take two on the raw and one on this side and one on this side and he'll wander off and bury that for winter. I seen them come in with a mouth stuck out there and just full {NS} acorns {D: before they're digged up}
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  And then after a while they rest a while and then go back again. I was sitting there look-looking for a squirrel and I found out the way he did it.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  Put it up for winter and I didn't kill him I just let him go on. {NS} and uh anything else contrary to that I I can't think. #1 of what you's talking #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah # That's what I was thinking of.
303:  huh?
Interviewer:  #1 That's what I was thinking of. Ground squirrel #
303:  #2 mm mm #
Interviewer:  What kinds of fish do you have around here?
303:  Well bass {C: not sure how the following line is spelled} the pirate blue cat the yellow cat {NS} and uh
Interviewer:  #1 What's a #
303:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  What's a blue cat and a yellow cat?
303:  different They ain't a bit different only one's he's blue as a a piece of paper. {NS} And this other one is yellow.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  looking brown sort of like that chair. He's light. And he-he's what you call a camel cat. He gets bigger and then there
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
303:  #2 uh he # He's a great big cat. But the blue cat is the best eat in the sea and uh have a blue cat and have have a yellow cat.
Interviewer:  Okay what um the things that pearls grow in um what do you call those?
303:  That's that what grows in?
Interviewer:  Pearls.
303:  Pearls. A mussel shell.
Interviewer:  okay is there another name for those? {NS}
303:  Oyster shell.
Interviewer:  okay um And this is something that you might hear {NS} making a noise around a a pond or a lake at night. {NS}
303:  That's a bullfrog.
Interviewer:  okay What about those smaller kinds of frogs? They get up in trees maybe have a real high voice.
303:  uh tree frogs
Interviewer:  okay {NS} um Is the thing that hops around out on the land
303:  That's a I know what it is. That's a {NS} uh toad frog
Interviewer:  okay
303:  Toad frog.
Interviewer:  And this is something you might dig up to go fishing with.
303:  worms
Interviewer:  okay What kinds of worms are there?
303:  red worms
Interviewer:  okay This is a hard shell thing that can curl its neck and legs into its shell.
303:  That's a mud turtle hmm
Interviewer:  #1 okay #
303:  #2 a a hard shell #
Interviewer:  {NS} Does that stay in the water?
303:  No he stays he stays in the pond. Goes down in the mud.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  And these other turtle they stay on top of the water. soft shell turtle He stay on top of the water.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  floating around and and you go down towards there and you can see them floating around on top of the water.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm #1 You call those a a soft shell? #
303:  #2 soft shell turtle # we call them
Interviewer:  #1 uh-huh #
303:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  What about something similar to that but stays on dry land?
303:  That's the terrapin.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {NS} okay um This is something that you'd find at a creek. It's got a shell to it. And it's got its little claws and pinchers. and
303:  That's a crawfish.
Interviewer:  okay And this is something you'd buy out {NS} get it from the ocean. They go out and they drag nets and get these and
303:  oysters shells
Interviewer:  No I'm thinking of something different.
303:  oh
Interviewer:  It's got a little you can buy it now. It has a little #1 thin #
303:  #2 {X} # It ain't a crab is it?
Interviewer:  No it's got a thick shell to it. that you peel off And then you boil it. And it's white. {NS}
303:  hmm You got above me with that. I can't
Interviewer:  see them #1 shrimp or swimp? #
303:  #2 hmm # uh swimp I never saw them but {NS} they got they're crabs and uh swimps
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm #
303:  #2 and uh # there's another one but I can't call it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm okay What about some insects that the kind of insect that would fly around the light and try and fly into it
303:  mm it ain't a {NS} ain't a mosquito is it?
Interviewer:  No I'm thinking of of something else. it say if you had a light on outside on your porch
303:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  You'll see this flying around the light
303:  Oh that's a candle fly
Interviewer:  okay {NS} and this is something that would get in your wool clothes and eat holes in them.
303:  That's a termite not termite but uh {NS} uh {NS} Uh I know what it is moths
Interviewer:  okay and if you have these you you'd set out what to get rid of them
303:  {NS} you get moth balls to put in there in a trunk
Interviewer:  okay Oh this is something that flies about and has a little light in its tail.
303:  mm-hmm uh yeah I know {NS} a lightning bug they call it
Interviewer:  okay
303:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer:  {NS}
303:  I ain't heared them called nothing else.
Interviewer:  okay And this is an insect that you'd see around a a lake or something and it's so it's got four wings. You know two pairs of wings. {NS}
303:  Uh bat?
Interviewer:  No this is It's an insect #1 now #
303:  #2 oh insect #
Interviewer:  {NS} #1 And it's um #
303:  #2 It's a s- # snake doctor
Interviewer:  okay And um what kinds of insects will sting you?
303:  Uh that's honey bee.
Interviewer:  What else? {NS}
303:  bumble bee s- it was a stripy bumble bee and a hornet
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and uh You get stung with a hornet you'll hurt your {X} I'm telling you. I got into a hornet nest one time. with my brother
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and uh one flew and hit him knocked him down. {NS} And it hurts bad. and uh we'd uh see that hornet building a nest
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  the round nest and he's got a hole right in the bottom of his nest and he goes up there and uh And we had a stick punching up there and got him mad and you know and they come down w-wasn't enough t-too high on the outside of the tree
Interviewer:  #1 mm #
303:  #2 We had a long # preaching pole and stuck up in there. got them stirred up And them things like to kill. um I I see them one nest now I get away from there.
Interviewer:  {NW}
303:  I don't fool with it.
Interviewer:  yeah {NS} What about something else similar to a hornet only it doesn't build a nest the same way?
303:  none it ain't a dirt dauber is it?
Interviewer:  no um It's something similar to that.
303:  hmm
Interviewer:  thinking of a wa-
303:  a yellow {X} no yellow jacket?
Interviewer:  #1 yes #
303:  #2 oh # a wasp
Interviewer:  okay The yellow jacket does that build a nest in the ground?
303:  no {NS} no {NS}
Interviewer:  What about that other those other things you mentioned? What were they? {NS}
303:  bumblebee?
Interviewer:  Okay or wa- What else?
303:  stripy I guess uh that's a black bumblebee builds a nest in the ground.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  goes in the ground. These are little black bumble bees no bigger than the tip end of your finger and you go around them they'll eat you up.
Interviewer:  yeah {NS}
303:  They go in they'll bite you.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and got holes and they crawl back in that to where they're working at and until anybody passes around there they'll get you.
Interviewer:  #1 what #
303:  #2 um # {NW} {NS}
Interviewer:  What about something that maybe um would start building a nest um oh maybe from say if you had a barn up up hanging from the roof in the corner
303:  mm
Interviewer:  start building a nest {NS}
303:  Now that's a wasp I reckon or a dirt dauber.
Interviewer:  okay Those those were called what?
303:  Dirt dauber.
Interviewer:  Oh what else did you say those were?
303:  huh?
Interviewer:  What else did you say those were?
303:  dirt dauber and uh {NS} wasp.
Interviewer:  okay Did you ever have a wasp get after you?
303:  Yeah been stung many times. {NS} by the {NS} up here Smith was here about three or four year a red wasp stung a white fella up there and killed him before night.
Interviewer:  really? {NS}
303:  Killed him before night his blood wasn't right.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  and he is called to that I never heared of a wasp killing a person in my life.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  I've been stung with them thousand times but it killed him. His heart his blood was something wrong with it.
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
303:  #2 And then when this # thing stung him it just poisoned him up. And it poisoned also his sister. And listen wasp stung him that that evening before night before midnight he was dead they say.
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm #
303:  #2 It was sad. # White people said that and I know it. It's true cause I heared it two or three three different people told it. white people
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  Said yes he he he died. He never did get well get over {NS} His blood doctor said if his blood had been normal like it ought to been it wouldn't have hurt him.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  But he stung in the wrong time.
Interviewer:  How many um say talking about a wasp nest about how many are are there in the nest?
303:  There's mm all the way from {NS} the red wasp is already the yellow jacket's all the way from t-t-twenty five to hundred maybe two hundred yellow jacket and the big wasp they don't get {X}
Interviewer:  #1 How many do they have? #
303:  #2 {X} # They have about seventy-five
Interviewer:  seventy-five
303:  seventy-five to a to a hundred
Interviewer:  hundred of these what?
303:  uh uh red wasp
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  and uh the the yellow jackets he's a wasp in a way but it's different. He has around a hundred two hundred maybe some more. and you just they're just thick and flying in there.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  And don't don't shake them up. It'll give you a hell of trouble.
Interviewer:  yeah What about a little insect that might little tiny thing that might get on to you if you had gone blackberry picking?
303:  That's a chigger.
Interviewer:  okay
303:  Then there's a there's another one. You know there's tick.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  And I don't like them things at all. But they easy to control. Just put a little lamp oil and salt on them and you you just turn them loose.
Interviewer:  Just put a little what?
303:  lamp oil or salt {NS}
Interviewer:  hmm
303:  And just rub it on and this time now he he done move he done dead
Interviewer:  yeah What do you do to keep them off dogs?
303:  Well I got a medicine here in town we got I forgot what they call it. there I think I got some of it out there in boxes. I don't know what they call that stuff.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  But they just spray it on.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  Push down on it {NW} {C: making noises like a spray bottle} spray it and in just a few minutes and You sitting around and you ain't don't see a one.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  {X} getting them
Interviewer:  okay this is something that an insect it hop around in the grass in the summer time.
303:  Yeah that's a grasshopper.
Interviewer:  #1 okay #
303:  #2 sawyer # and the big grasshopper and his name is sawyer. He gets about two inches long.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  The little the other grasshopper why I ain't got no name for this other one. He just about a inch and a half a inch long. {X} grasshopper
Interviewer:  the gray
303:  the gray grasshopper then there then there the sawyer #1 He he's a red grasshopper #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
303:  stripes up and down his wings
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {NS}
303:  #1 he #
Interviewer:  #2 Have you ever heard # mm-hmm
303:  That's all.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of people call 'em hoppergrass?
303:  hoppergrass
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  no
Interviewer:  okay um This is a small fish that you might use for bait. {NS}
303:  That's a small fish I forgot what they call that. {NS} That's see that I believe is They call it a mackerel mackerel.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  And uh I think what they call that I ain't ri-right uh I think I am.
Interviewer:  okay um And if you haven't cleaned a room in a long time up in the corner you know stretched across the corner
303:  {NW}
Interviewer:  of the ceiling you might see what? What might you find?
303:  find a spider web
Interviewer:  okay Would that have a spider in it?
303:  No not every time. They it forms by the nature and uh they they just uh {D: words} just because of that
Interviewer:  uh-huh um Do you call it spider web if it's inside or outside? does it make any difference?
303:  Yes {X} same thing in a way they call it spider web
Interviewer:  You ever heard of a cobweb?
303:  cobweb?
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  Yeah I've heared it but I don't understand it. well {NW}
Interviewer:  Of the part of the tree that's underground you'd call those the
303:  the roots of the tree
Interviewer:  okay Do you ever hear of use of some kind of roots or vines for medicine?
303:  yes ma'am and then That's the burdock
Interviewer:  the what?
303:  burdock {NS} and uh
Interviewer:  #1 Is that a root or #
303:  #2 cherry # cherry red cherry and uh {NS} blackberry
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  root
Interviewer:  What do you use these for?
303:  Use it for medicine.
Interviewer:  What what's that first one you mentioned? burd- burdock?
303:  burdock.
Interviewer:  What's that? #1 Is that a tree or a bush? #
303:  #2 No th-that's a plant. #
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  That's a plant.
Interviewer:  What what do you take that for? #1 How'd it do? #
303:  #2 Well well you # dig up the roots of it and put it on the boiler and make a laxative out of it.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  And you take it just bitter. why not
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  and uh the cherry root I think of the bark and see how we've got now but I believe it's the bark. You mix it with that burdock if you want to. #1 and you #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
303:  building up your blood.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  and uh the blackberry root then the the yellow puccoon
Interviewer:  yellow what?
303:  yellow puccoon
Interviewer:  C-cocoon?
303:  No it grows on these mountains.
Interviewer:  #1 What's that for? #
303:  #2 it's got a # yellow root on it. and uh they they d-dig it. It's next thing to ginseng.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  They dig it and dry it and sell it. They fixing it all to make medicine out of it.
Interviewer:  Do they use it for anything special though if they keep it and use it #1 for medicine? #
303:  #2 no # These young people don't the-they {NS} They a hundred now. But they don't use they go to drug store and get their medicine #1 now #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah # Do you remember where that used to be used for?
303:  Uh yellow puccoon?
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm #
303:  #2 uh # and ginseng?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  It was used I think for your blood.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  when you use it build your body up
Interviewer:  uh-huh What about if you had a sore in your mouth? {NS}
303:  sore?
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
303:  #2 in my mouth? #
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  oh you'd have get some kind of sap. put it on it and wash it out with with alcohol and uh this other stuff. I forget what you peroxide
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  Wash it out with peroxide.
Interviewer:  You ever hear of yellow root? #1 yellow root #
303:  #2 y-yes ma'am # yes there's uh that uh what I need I swear to God.
Interviewer:  yellow
303:  yellow puccoon it's it's got a yellow root. #1 and #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
303:  and uh {NS} ginseng It's it's white.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  That's a different it and uh they sell them now for sixty-five dollars a pound. fill up your
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  lives right up here and there's one in Watertown had uh that do-ed it this time he had this fellow down there had a fifteen pound.
Interviewer:  god
303:  And this other fellow up here he got little more than that and uh the man come here to buy it and the reason he didn't buy it It wasn't dry.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  An uh he said he'd have to dry it before he could give that much with it. He wouldn't take it green. And it's green so
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm #
303:  #2 whenever it dries # he offered him sixty-five dollars a pound.
Interviewer:  Mm. That's a lot of money. {NS} What kind of tree did you tap for syrup?
303:  what? what's that?
Interviewer:  What kind of tree did you tap for syrup?
303:  oh sugar tree sugar tree
Interviewer:  okay And what would you call a big group of these trees growing together?
303:  Oh we would call them twinned. {NS} twin trees
Interviewer:  uh-huh What about if there's just a lot of these growing like a whole big group growing together?
303:  well I'd call that I don't know exactly what you would call that. what of that many together
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  but Well there's two or three joining growing together I'd call that a What'd I call it a twin didn't I?
Interviewer:  twin
303:  twin trees
Interviewer:  okay um This is the kind of tree that's got white scaly bark and it's got these little knobs or balls growing on it. and It's got big broad leaves. branch out
303:  I know that tree but now {NS} I can't call it. Never got it out oh there's m- thems trees is scary.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  There ain't none up my house here.
Interviewer:  yeah {NS}
303:  But I can't call it. I-I've seen it many times.
Interviewer:  You ever heard of a syc- sycamore
303:  Sycamore yeah we've got a few scattered around here. {NS} sycamore It's a got uh white bark on it. #1 and and #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
303:  Wherever it sheds is slick.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and I don't worry so much to count them up there. People cuts a few logs around there put them down in the creeks. It don't grow much on swamp around the around the oh big creeks somewhere.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  {NS} It don't grow out in the woods in {D: in the lochs like} You got to look certain place to find
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What are some of the trees around here? {NS}
303:  What are they?
Interviewer:  Yeah what kinds of trees #1 grow around here? #
303:  #2 what # There's a uh the cedar tree {NS} a {NS} poplar tree a yellow poplar white poplar elm tree red elm tree a white elm tree
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  uh and uh {NS} there's a beech tree and there's a oak tree.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  There's chinquapin tree.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  Then there's uh hog- hog- {D: hogated tree}
Interviewer:  a what?
303:  {D: Hogated} #1 tree you know I told you about them. #
Interviewer:  #2 oh yeah #
303:  {D: They're hogated.} Tree you've got a top of them just like a umbrella
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  And there's chi-chinquapin around it's slick.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  And this here other one You got this here {X} just like umbrella around. And when it falls in fall the hogs leasing and then the people raise hogs on them's got four of them you got them all they're {NS} and I wouldn't have one cut for nothing. But whenever they hit They do not feed the hog. and {X} They're ready getting ready to kill him.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  to grow them on {NS} Then there's a there's a weeping willow tree.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and there's a {NS} weeping willow and then {NS} there's a boxelder no.
Interviewer:  What about some bushes or shrubs that grow wild around here? {NS}
303:  Well there's a boxelder
Interviewer:  Is that a bush or a shrub?
303:  #1 Yes ma'am. #
Interviewer:  #2 um #
303:  It's a bush.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  Then there's {NS} Oh I can't think right now.
Interviewer:  What about a shrub that has leaves that turn bright red? and um {NS} It's got these little berries on it. {NS}
303:  Well {NS} I don't know whether that's a beech tree or
Interviewer:  No it's a shrub or a bush.
303:  oh {NS} It's different then. {NS} between {NS} uh You got me on that. {NS}
Interviewer:  You ever heard of su- or shumac or {NS}
303:  huh
Interviewer:  You ever heard of shumac or su-sumac or shu-
303:  no
Interviewer:  shumac?
303:  shu- yes shumac. There there's a the shumac grows here in this county.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and uh {NS} and uh boxelder put that
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  A boxelder is white wood it's white as cotton. And the boxelder it {NS} And there's another one but I can't think again {NS} And there's sycamore tree. I done named that.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about any kinds of bushes or or vines vines that make your your skin break out if you touch 'em?
303:  Yeah I knows what part of that is. poison oak poison oak to some folks poison oak some call poison oak
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  and so {NS} here we got got some of that around plenty of that around in different places. {NS}
Interviewer:  What's it look like? #1 Can you describe it? #
303:  #2 Looks like a vine. # little gnarl leaves
Interviewer:  So what leaves?
303:  little gnarl leaves on it and comes down like a V and it's makes you think of {NS} uh I don't know makes you I I can't can't place what I'm trying to say. But anyhow It it it runs. It's a vine. Runs up in trees or runs out on the fence. or runs down on the ground to another tree {NS} and uh {NS} you don't see much of it only where it's right rich
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and where it's right rich at it it's comes up all out of the ground around the the roots of this big tree and and it runs up on it and uh You draw yourself portions. Using or being poisoned with it well I better stay away from it. Because it breaks out on you you might not like I don't know it's awful. And damn it hurts.
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm #
303:  #2 One of them did hurt me. # I could go up take my hand pull it off and put it in the mouth of children it don't bo- #1 bother them. #
Interviewer:  #2 hmm #
303:  That's the difference in the people.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  My mother could just walk under the tree where it was at. an-and she'd have to get a salt and lamp oil and solve it together an-and go to rubbing with it to keep to keep it from being hurt.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  break out all over
Interviewer:  yeah {NS} um Okay what kind of berries
303:  uh raspberries
Interviewer:  Okay what about berries that you make shortcake out of?
303:  strawberries
Interviewer:  okay and um Okay this is a tall bush. It's got {NS} beautiful pink and white flowers on it. {NS} And I think it grows around the spring. Or it grows around the spring
303:  mm Yeah that's one {X}
Interviewer:  You ever heard of laurel or mountain laurel or spoonwood or something like that? {NS} ivy
303:  no If that doesn't vine well
Interviewer:  You never heard of laurel or rhododendron?
303:  mm-mm.
Interviewer:  okay Oh this is a a tree. It's got shiny leaves and big white flowers. {NS} And it leaves a prickly seed pod that looks something like a cucumber. {NS}
303:  Well that's the there's a yell- there's a yellow poplar. or you got pods on it that run about that long.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  It looks like sort of like you're talking about but that's the only thing that I can pair it with.
Interviewer:  This has got it's a big tree.
303:  #1 Oh really? #
Interviewer:  #2 And it's got shiny # green leaves and these big white flowers.
303:  mm, mm {NW} It ain't a dogwood is it?
Interviewer:  no You ever heard of magnolia or cucumber tree or #1 something like that? #
303:  #2 no # I never that's getting past what I'm used to.
Interviewer:  okay um If a married woman didn't want to make up her own mind about something she'd say I have to ask
303:  my husband
Interviewer:  okay any other ways she'd refer to him? {NS}
303:  {X} she'd ask her will he agree
Interviewer:  uh-huh Would she call him by old man or
303:  #1 I think she'd call him out um #
Interviewer:  #2 my man #
303:  my old man or either my husband
Interviewer:  uh-huh And what would he call her?
303:  Well he might call her if if he's in love with her er- might call her honey I'm gonna do the best I can.
Interviewer:  okay Or you'd say um I have to ask would he say my my old lady or my wife? or my #1 {X} #
303:  #2 Yeah he'd he'd say # I would have to I would ask my wife about that.
Interviewer:  okay um A woman who's lost her husband is called a
303:  is lord lord for her husband
Interviewer:  who's lost her husband
303:  oh {NS} She said well my husband passed {NS} yet in nineteen so and so
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  and and I miss him.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and whoever says that she's been a
303:  a widow
Interviewer:  okay what if they separated? They're not living together anymore.
303:  mm
Interviewer:  Then she'd be a
303:  but oh no
Interviewer:  You ever hear of grass?
303:  gra- g-grass widow
Interviewer:  uh-huh Do you ever what does that mean?
303:  That woman is that husband's parted and they ain't never gonna be married. {NS} I mean uh they been married but uh uh parted and got divorced.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  and She's the grass widow.
Interviewer:  okay Um the man whose son you are is called your {NS}
303:  what? You have to repeat that one.
Interviewer:  the man whose son you are {NS} is called your {NS}
303:  That's called my daddy.
Interviewer:  okay any other names
303:  some said father
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  some say his daddy But there's one word I think shouldn't be a word to say that. And that's father. who art in heaven And I don't think nobody worthy enough to be called father. {NS}
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
303:  They either daddy papa or mama.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {NS}
303:  But when they go to saying father I think they went a little too far. But some does. #1 They do it plenty. #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
303:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # #1 yeah yeah #
303:  #2 father who art # in heaven It will be my name. and I
Interviewer:  #1 what was that? #
303:  #2 {X} # Uh th-the father's in heaven you know.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  That uh who art to die {NS} for us all
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  and that's Jesus {NS}
Interviewer:  #1 How is that? How is #
303:  #2 God give # for us all. and uh know how long it's been so long ago
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
303:  And that's why I said when they say when none good but the f- father in heaven.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  #1 And he #
Interviewer:  #2 that's # How does that prayer go?
303:  what?
Interviewer:  That father who
303:  father who art in heaven
Interviewer:  What's that?
303:  father who art in heaven
Interviewer:  uh-huh
303:  help me along
Interviewer:  What's that something be thy
303:  That's a sermon.
Interviewer:  yeah Do you know how it goes
303:  No I don't I don't go no further than that.
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  further than I know
Interviewer:  Do you use the word mother? {NS}
303:  Jesus
Interviewer:  yeah um okay You say um you have your your daddy and then his wife is called your
303:  grandma. {NS}
Interviewer:  Okay or {NS} any other names for that? {NS} what {NS} {NS}
303:  mother or ma {NS} is the only thing I know {NS} ma or ma
Interviewer:  What's that? {NS}
303:  that's my Now that'd be my grandma or grandma
Interviewer:  #1 oh I see #
303:  #2 ma # ma and ma is a little different
Interviewer:  yeah
303:  ma and ma {NS} That's that's more different in a way {NS}
Interviewer:  um What about her husband? That'd be your
303:  uh
Interviewer:  Your grand
303:  grandpa {NS} gran- {NS} grandpa or
Interviewer:  okay and um okay you might say mama or how how would you call your what would you say?
303:  uh my you mean my grandma?
Interviewer:  No I'm talking about your
303:  mother
Interviewer:  yeah {NS}
303:  Well I g- call her mother.
Interviewer:  okay together your {NS} daddy and mother would be called your
303:  my daddy and mother
Interviewer:  would be called your {NS} your pa- {NS}
303:  what?
Interviewer:  They'd be called your
303:  What what did you you mean what did they call me?
Interviewer:  No what what would you call them? You say These are my
303:  Uh this is my mother and this is my daddy.
Interviewer:  Okay or these together they're they're my pa- {NS}
303:  Mm.
Interviewer:  par-
303:  parents
Interviewer:  okay um {NS} Okay you say I was the youngest of five
303:  I was the y- youngest of the five children.
Interviewer:  any other name besides that? {NS}
303:  I'm the the baby of the five children.
Interviewer:  okay um What about a name that a a child's known by just in his family? {NS}
303:  name by known?
Interviewer:  yes a say what what would you call a baby I mean he if instead of calling him by his his given name you might give him a {NS}
303:  hmm
Interviewer:  the older people might call him what? {NS}
303:  uh {NS} don't know {NS} can't can't get that together
Interviewer:  You ever heard of a pet name or a basket name or something like that?
303:  Oh I Oh I've known knows that give him a name but I given name but I can't think of that now.
Interviewer:  Okay this is something on wheels that you'd put a a baby in and it can lie down.
303:  It's called a crib.
Interviewer:  Oh does that have wheels to it?
303:  why mm yes it can have wheels but then there's some that ain't {NS} ain't got no wheel.
Interviewer:  What would you call the one that has wheels?
303:  We'd call that a a baby chair.
Interviewer:  a chair?
303:  a ch- uh uh no that ain't exactly what it is. {NS} but I just can't call it.
Interviewer:  #1 You told me a #
303:  #2 cri- crib I believe #
Interviewer:  What about carriage or buggy or
303:  carriage or either buggy either one
Interviewer:  Does that those have wheels on them?
303:  The the buggies do and the carriage do too I think.
Interviewer:  okay
303:  I know the buggies do.
Interviewer:  Okay so you put the baby in the buggy then you'd go out and what with the baby? go out and
303:  shop
Interviewer:  yeah um
303:  or shopping
Interviewer:  Yeah you put the baby in this buggy though then you take take it outside and and you say you're going to go what? the baby
303:  I'm going to take the baby out
Interviewer:  {D: put the baby in the buggy} {C: static, I think it's an echo from a few lines earlier}
303:  No I ain't got that.
Interviewer:  Would you talk about wheel the baby or roll the baby or ride the baby or
303:  ride the baby or either
Interviewer:  Did you did you use that word?
303:  yeah You use uh
Interviewer:  {D: wheel the baby} {C: echo}
303:  ride the baby. or push the baby
Interviewer:  okay um You say you might have a son and a {NS}
303:  son
Interviewer:  a son or a {NS}
303:  or girl
Interviewer:  okay And the girl wouldn't be called a son she would be called a {NS} a boy would be a son a girl would be a
303:  be a daughter
Interviewer:  okay And if a woman were going to have a child you'd say that she's
303:  She's pregnant.
Interviewer:  Okay any other words {NS} for that? Was that word nice to use when you were growing up?
303:  yes but but there's another word {NS} But uh {NS} there's another word
Interviewer:  mm-hmm You say she's
303:  big
Interviewer:  big?
303:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  okay And if you didn't have a doctor to deliver the baby you might send for this woman who'd be called a
303:  uh I know what to call but I {NS} uh {NS} {C: silence}