330:  {B} {D: the kid's school, to go to school by school with}
Interviewer:  hmm
330:  couldn't just, couldn't just find 'em
Interviewer:  Well I wanted to just ask you some general questions about, you know, yourself, uh. So your your name first of all, full name.
330:  {B} {NS} {B}
Interviewer:  {D: I'd like to know that last name}
330:  {B}
Interviewer:  And your address?
330:  {B}
Interviewer:  Huh?
330:  {B} Huh? And I
Interviewer:  What's the name of this community?
330:  {B}
Interviewer:  Okay. And see, the county is
330:  {B}
Interviewer:  Okay. Um where were you born?
330:  I was born down in {B} {X}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Where's that?
330:  Back over there by {B} Fact I was west {B} {D: you you been down this} {B} {X} {B}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  Well I was born west {D: over round there} {B} {X} {B} community {X} {D: it's a little} {X} {D: couple a years}
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 that was over there. # My father {D: bought} a little place down there when he was a young boy.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
330:  #2 He was elected #
330:  while I was {D: just a} small, elected {D: magistrate} of the district. {B} district.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  {X} {D: this is twenty first} but uh I was born in the {B} district. And uh father was born in a little place down Then he sold that and came back when {X} Another farm, {X} {B} district. {X} And uh that's that's where we lived as long as he lived.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Was that the city?
330:  No it's over there on the other road, goes out this road, turns left then goes out towards Kentucky.
Interviewer:  Was that called {B}
330:  Uh-huh {B}
Interviewer:  How far away?
330:  Huh?
Interviewer:  How far away?
330:  From here?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  It was uh it's a {D: about a mile} {D: I joined} the place, farm, matter of fact, he owned my farm but uh {D: he uh the good hands road, about his} that's why I walked to school. Now the school, the school was right down here, just that house on the left {D: next} somebody in the house. Yeah.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  {D: one night we walked back over there} and now the house is gone. {X} {D: very big old house} {X} old brick house {X} {X} all my life, course I was small when we moved there.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And we moved there I believe it was {B} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And it {D: came so often} the snow Lord have mercy I never seen such snow in my life. {C: tape runs over itself 'we moved'} It snowed for weeks and weeks. Creeks froze dry {B} froze over. There, uh, some {X} {B} that's all. {X} And rabbits. We got knee-deep in {X} snow, and {X} my brother, who was younger than I was, we'd go out in it. {D: kept on the grass}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  when we jump him up, he just one jump, it was {X} {NS}
Interviewer:  What?
330:  {D: I'd say zero}
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 about all the time. #
330:  #1 And we #
Comment:  #2 {C: tape run over itself} #
330:  we didn't have any wood. We'd just moved in and we didn't have we didn't have any wood, a whole bunch of wood in the fireplace, so we had nothing to eat. We didn't have any electricity.
Interviewer:  Yes.
330:  we used kerosene {X} lights
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And uh As good as I remember, I think we got fifteen cents a piece for those rabbits, those boys. {D: we'd take 'em} {X} {D: last minute} I'm telling you {D: about how awful}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  Father {D: run the stove} he'd give {D: us} fifteen cents a piece for those rabbits
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
330:  #2 then. #
330:  {X} {D: big man farm, then people he} {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
330:  {B} once or twice a week {D: in summer} you know. I imagine he got a quarter for {X} but he gave us each fifteen cents a piece for those rabbits then. {X} {X} and, uh, we got {X} {D: cut down a big tree} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  and {D: we're heat} up in wood keep {D: boy} freezing. It didn't, he couldn't a meal couldn't {X} had to have {X} {D: to fight} had shoes, and metal spikes on them {X} see he always this {X} I guarantee you it was that deep.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  We had {X} a freeze and some of 'em then sometimes wrap a sack around {X} {X} had to keep it from {D: going off} in your shoes. That's the way we were hunting. And we'd get milk. I'd say we milked two or three cows, maybe four, five, I don't know, two, three. And then we sold we sold a little cream, my mother sold uh sold a little cream. Had a separator. Yeah we had one of those #1 cream separators. #
Comment:  #2 {C: tape run over itself} #
330:  Turned it with our hands, just like cranked it that away. And pour this milk up in there, the milk would go one place, and the cream come out another {X} Got the cream alright. Then we got all that cream got separated, that's what we made our butter out of And we we really {X} milked {X} we had a big time we {D: each} {D: just chilling} and go play We {X} grew up, like I said we grew up hard we had the butter. We picked berries from mother's {X} {X} that and strawberry molasses we'd make molasses, we'd draw cane {X} cane and cut those {X} And then he'd make strawberry molasses. we made jam {D: everybody sweet} Course, my daddy wouldn't. And uh, we {X} But he got to catching bees. Anyway he we had a few beehives and we'd get some honey {X} once every year. Maybe about {X} I'd say round the middle of June. We'd rob the bees. {X} They'd bite you, too. Sting. We had a lot of sweets, that and we didn't buy much. what I mean, we raised, uh killing hogs hogs and kill 'em in the fall. I still have hogs and kill 'em. And, uh {NS} we raised five, uh, seven chickens I mean uh geese, my mother raised geese to make us feather beds and clothes out of. And I'd catch 'em, sell 'em, hatch 'em and I kept kept those geese.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
330:  And she'd pet 'em and I {X} started off {C: repeated section of tape 'make us feather beds'} I'd have to hold the head {X} and grab 'em, you know for mother.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  And pinch 'em. Heads in the little {D: saws in his mouth} He'd just shake, you know, but she'd my mother'd make you stand and hold his head while she picked 'em, she picked 'em and put these feathers in a sack. and then she'd get enough of 'em she'd make a pillow. She made feather beds.
Interviewer:  {D: you'd pull his all}
330:  {X} That's what they raised was geese. {NW} geese {X} half a dozen.
Interviewer:  And then he grew 'em back didn't he?
330:  Yeah, yeah I'd pick 'em. {X} picked 'em twice a year. Yeah, they grow back. Yes, uh the first thing you ever seen grow back. And they'd lay five {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
330:  {D: go out there, wait a little} {X} {D: I'd set 'em and} {X} Green hands {D: steeped 'em} and I was the one who done it. And I set them rascals old geese are feisty many times old gander would {X} Little ones called called {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And he'd {D: thread} going by and he'd grab run right after me just like a {X} If I'd run, he'd go too, right after me and course when I'd stop, he'd stop. {C: tape sounds like it's been run over itself} {X} chickens We had, my mother had a dozen of those chickens, and we {D: we got eggs}
Interviewer:  #1 What kind of chickens? #
330:  #2 {X} # {X} Just uh general chickens they'd be {X} white white rocks, or {D: lay} ones
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  like binoculars. {X} most {D: ordinary} chickens. We had a lot of different varieties of chicken and and uh we {X} fact {X} is we {D: brought brought} the cream and uh those eggs we just brought to our grocery store
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
330:  #2 we had to have. # We didn't have any telephones we didn't have any electricity, you know I didn't know what electricity was {X} at all. And uh little {D: corn} {X} Nowadays I don't see how #1 {D: everybody} #
Comment:  #2 {C: tape is replayed over itself here} #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
330:  #2 lives # or that there was kind of conditions.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  And uh we {X} we went to school, too I went to school, like I said my sister, I got a sister. {B} She's going on seventy-four years old. She's several years older than I. {X}
Interviewer:  How old are you?
330:  I'm sixty-seven this year. I'll be sixty-seven this year. {B}
Interviewer:  What um {X} so you said you you just went through the eighth grade of school?
330:  I think that's all
Interviewer:  Is this school {B}
330:  Only school I ever went to, only place I ever went in my life. I've got a bunch of pictures up here I can show you.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  When I started, I started at six years old. Do you want to look at them?
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah I'd like that. #
330:  #2 Do you want to get that? # {NS} I've any {X} got to get my glasses, I can't {X} {NS}
Interviewer:  {NS}
330:  {NS} {NS} {NS} This is a old they're folders. {D: I had 'em made} {B} when I was six year old.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  Are you in here?
330:  Yeah. Yeah right here.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
330:  #2 Yeah right here down here. # bout six years old
Interviewer:  yeah
330:  {X} I had a sister there, I'll show you her.
Interviewer:  You both look funny to me. #1 Now #
330:  #2 Huh? #
Interviewer:  now the clothes look a little funny to me. {D: little sick shirt}
330:  That's my sister right here {D: the ribbon to me}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  Now you see don't you see little grown men and uh and uh see little grown men
Interviewer:  #1 Oh yeah. #
330:  #2 {X} # {X} All these grown women, they old you see {X} {D: grown man} and he's in his eighties.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And I was going to school there if you can even imagine. See they were they were they was eighteen, eighteen, nineteen, some of 'em mighta been twenty year old. And yeah the teacher right here this part right here
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  {X}
Interviewer:  And you said {X}
330:  Well they'd just get onto the line. {D: didn't get into no} trouble.
Interviewer:  {NW}
330:  And I have a have another one here I'd reckon {D: it's a boy} That's me nineteen twenty. I think {B} right here in this one my teacher's right behind me here.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  Yeah right here beside oh I see it got tired of it fourteen years earlier {X} That little girl standing right there beside him {X} four or five years old. {NS} {D: and yeah going again} I never did {X} {B}
Interviewer:  Hmm.
330:  That's right here.
Interviewer:  Was your sister in this one?
330:  No, my oldest sister, I have a I got a young one in this one I think I got a young one, a baby sister. {D: all these years uh} {NS} {D: let me see if I can start again} She's on this on that one no {D: let me find this one again} I got a baby sister {D: she's right here} {B}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  sister {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  {D: what kind of sister, one}
330:  {D: I wouldn't take nothing from her}
Interviewer:  {NW}
330:  {D: I been more than giving} {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah, you are {X}
330:  {NS} Is that enough? {D: I wouldn't} {X} {NS} and {X} you know
Interviewer:  {X} you could name all {X}
330:  Yeah I'd want to name 'em all {D: turn 'em in the paper} {D: I tell 'em} {X} instead of {X} a good little bit {NS} {D: then I went in with a with a kind of paper}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  then tore, see at the united {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  names. They said they doesn't want 'em mixed up {D: wasn't that nineteen ten} I don't know what it is about this one somebody called {X} {D: messed her up}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  My half I would say {X} {D: they were grown men} {D: I might've gotten a step}
Interviewer:  You just got all kinda books and things, don't you?
330:  Uh-huh, yeah. So I can we'll get back on something else. Now you asked me {X} anything
Interviewer:  Okay well I guess so. Information about let's see, the church you go to
330:  Well I don't go to church too much. I I my father and mother were Baptist
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  and my wife here belongs to the Methodists.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  I have a nephew that's a Baptist preacher.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  {C: tape is overlaid here back at 'father and mother were Baptist'} I never I never did join any church. There's a lot of things going on that I never did appreciate and go for they way they did, and I just there was any church, I just don't believe anybody like at a {X} church, they do things like they done {D: I never did never did join}
Interviewer:  Yeah. Um what work have you done? Mainly just farm, or {X}
330:  I've farmed all my life, like you said I worked a tobacco company thirty-eight years before I had that heart attack. I never missed a a day. {X}
Interviewer:  And what company
330:  {B}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  #1 worked thirty-eight years #
Comment:  #2 {C: tape is overlaid with 'all my life, like you said'} #
Interviewer:  What did you do there?
330:  Worked down at at What where'd I do that?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What did you do there?
330:  Oh! I did a lot of different things, I started out weighing tobacco. First thing you do is {X} {D: weighing and receiving tobacco in the warehouses} I had to weigh it #1 mark it up and then grind it up #
Comment:  #2 {C: tape overlaid with 'I did a lot of different things, I started out'} #
330:  and then make up barrels {D: and put} nine hundred some ten pounds in a barrel, I'd make it up and then these boys would {D: tack it} and hand it to a {X} {D: and two-handed tug} {X} And course before I quit that's all eliminated, they just went in now to machines. and a big {D: thread} comes out of it {X} and uh {C: tape overlaid with 'before I quit'} all gathered up and we would protect {X} When I first started get a little crust to dry {D: dry up if you crushed it} And we I had to have {D: bowls} made {X} to get all packed up.
Interviewer:  You had what now?
330:  bowls {X} {D: lead barrel} And uh they stand over here and {D: lay that tobacco} {X} They'd pick up this {D: board} and lay lay it over here
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  {X} someone would pack it on this side.
Interviewer:  What's that {D: half or half of}
330:  The barrels are round
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  and they have both {X}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  and they {X} crack the back down then they {X} {X} {X} different men was bosses you know they were old men when I started down there I felt like a {D: school kid} {D: I was scared of him as a bear} #1 {D: he'd come through and #
Comment:  #2 {C: tape overlaid} #
330:  #1 {X} #
Comment:  #2 {C: tape overlaid} #
330:  And he was not {X} about the smoking. {C: tape overlaid} And now they'd do anything in the world and
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  {D: handling handling rocks} {D: pay more attention to nothing nowadays} {X} {X} now but they still don't have the younger generation {D: north} all they have is money up there. They don't care nothing about product with their hands.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  {C: tape overlaid}
Interviewer:  #1 yeah. #
330:  #2 like that. #
Interviewer:  Where was this tobacco company in {B}
330:  no, they uh they {X} {B} When I started working for 'em once hired me well I {X} {B} uh-huh.
Interviewer:  How long did you live in {B}
330:  I just I I just worked in {B}
Interviewer:  #1 Oh you worked there. #
330:  #2 {X} # The man's {X} wouldn't hire me.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  and uh I I hired a winter this young boy {X} I told him {X} but working {D: had me} years and I never did lose any time. Uh I had my babies born I lost a few hours.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  {X} {X} You know I didn't get the whole day in but I worked some. And other than that that's the only time I lost any I wasn't ever sick or I didn't have to you know have to be out of anything. I worked regular and {X} I'd have to say that, they were really good telling me. I didn't get much money they didn't pay much [X} but it {X} {X} days, you know they grabbed {D: to raise that rate} every year I'd give 'em a little raise {X} the whole time I was there. When I quit I was making ninety dollars a week and they paid me solid. Through when I started {X} closed market closed
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  Then they cut me off. And then next fall they picked me up again I kept {X} go get samples we'd go getting {D: cards} all over the country middle Tennessee and and places and pick up samples
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  for 'em and they'd send these samples to Richmond, Virginia to the laboratory and have 'em tested see how much nicotine {D: in 'em} before they go. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  {X} low in nicotine As a matter of fact {X} get in on it If it was heavy they wouldn't buy too much. {C: tape overlaid, unintelligible} I went twenty-some odd years with uh in a {X} {X} {D: didn't happen to get those samples} and I enjoyed it of course. A lot of the time it'd be awful cold but we have a lot of fun, there's a lot of work too, now. fun, too. We enjoy I enjoyed it. Little man the {D: boss} now lives in South Carolina. He {D: begged me not to} Last year and the year before before year before last especially wanted to come down and said just run it. Course I told him I said {NW} you ain't telling me that, I said I know {X} I said no {X} {D: find your way in the world} It won't work.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  If they worked like we grew up {D: working} I wouldn't have enjoyed {X} {NW} Those boys wouldn't work. They want their money but they didn't want to do anything to get it.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  That's why they all {X}
Interviewer:  Um. What sort of people do you see mostly? you mentioned you just loved traveling testing this tobacco, you know? Did #1 were you ever #
330:  #2 Yeah? #
Interviewer:  active in clubs, or
330:  Uh in clubs?
Interviewer:  Yeah or {NW} How is uh the people that I'm interested- What type of people do you come in contact with and how do you come in contact with them?
330:  {D: via this club?}
Interviewer:  Just generally. I mean, like you say say if you never joined a church then most of your friends wouldn't be people that you'd meet at at your church. You you wouldn't be active at church. But are you active in in clubs or do you travel much or you know meet a lot of people?
330:  Oh yeah I I been been round a lot of different folks. And uh had uh We used to have a little meeting here of teacher we had {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  that are had little meetings. We'd met meet once a week. He was helping us people that you know didn't get to have a {X} {C: potentially unintelligible speech from another woman, like his wife} {X} {D: I had my way, I don't say I did a lot} {X} he was taught in schools how to college or how to make a living farming
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  do these things you know and then I {D: bought up on} my father. {X} I wouldn't say that I changed a lot of ways but he had they had a {D: good items} alright.
Interviewer:  What about
330:  {D: I could settle 'em and} {X} {D: what I did I did it that way} {D: if I didn't I wouldn't} change my way of doing it
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and is this related to farming? #1 {X} #
330:  #2 Yeah mm-hmm yeah. # Yeah. Yeah we'd have a meeting once a week. We have 'em for years and then at the end of the schooling you know we'd have he called it a about a six eight weeks meeting he'd hold he'd hold about six eight weeks. And then uh then we'd have a big main supper. Get together a whole community we'd get together all meet.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And I made my home here I don't know quite a few times and we'd have supper here. And have a big time oh we'd have a big
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 time. #
330:  And he's still a good friend of mine. he put a took his boys over there {X} {D: and put a} {D: bean in the barncloth on me} about about a month ago. {D: and broke now} {X} he and his boys made me a {D: bean tin man}
Interviewer:  What what's a
330:  in the back of the plow that I plow plowed my garden with {X} It's just a plow you use with a mule.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  and uh I plow my garden with it, yeah.
Interviewer:  And do you put a
330:  I made a the {D: bean} in it {X} {D: the boys} was planting tobacco last year and I broke it out. And I got me a a great long piece for that business and {D: cashed over} and then worked on
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 it # put it in the in the shop, you know, and boy he took those boys and {D: they done fixed it} both holes in and put the pieces off my old one and put 'em back together on this one. And he it's like a brand new one.
Interviewer:  What's {X} {D: you call this place a bean}?
330:  Yeah uh-huh bean.
Interviewer:  #1 What part is that? #
330:  #2 Bean uh #
Interviewer:  And what does it do?
330:  That's the main part. It just holds the feet thing to the plow.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
330:  See that bolt? And they have a thin hole same thing have a bolt goes through the thing in back to keep covered up your tobacco corn, anything, you can {X} anything with it. But I used I didn't I hadn't worked anywhere since I had that heart attack.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  I just worked {X} I taught
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 oh I do anything. #
Interviewer:  You call this a tobacco plow, yes?
330:  Mm-hmm, yes. Tobacco plow.
Interviewer:  What other kinds of plows are there?
330:  huh?
Interviewer:  what other kinds of #1 plows #
330:  #2 Oh. #
Interviewer:  are there?
330:  What other kind of plows?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  Well we used to have a plow we broke our ground with turning plow.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  Uh where two mules come and we had we had turn plow but we had three mules too. We'd put three abreast and
Interviewer:  What did you call this? What did you call the two mules that would work together?
330:  The two mules yes uh we you mean this the uh two mules work the one plow?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Do you call that
330:  Well uh I we have a we just called 'em two mules being working {D: to} each other. We had a doubletree.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
330:  and then when we added we bought a bigger plow we there were three mules to it we had a triple-tree, we called it and same tree worked on {X} too.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  {X} We called 'em uh two-team plow and a three-team plow.
Interviewer:  Two team? The team is two?
330:  Yeah two mules.
Interviewer:  What about three?
330:  And uh that that would be three team plow. {X}
Interviewer:  Let's see also I need to know a little bit about your parents where they were born what education they had what they do.
330:  Oh uh I don't imagine they're get down to just tell the truth about it uh my father was elected {D: magistrate} course he went they went to school a little bit.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  but he didn't he didn't get his father died when he was right small He'd been raised right up here above me right on the other side of the road. That's where his father what broke his leg and died. and he fathers four boys {X} and the mother.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And my father was the oldest one. And he uh {X} made a living for Ma and he once {X} what schooling he could get go to. He was elected. He could read and write. He elected {D: magistrate} and served forty-two years and never was beaten till he got where he couldn't hear and then he resigned.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
330:  #2 after # he served forty-two years as a {D: magistrate} in county court. You know what that is. Know they elect two out of the district, you know?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  And he was elected we little ones {D: paid} {X} Where I told you I was born he was elected down there. And he went on till he held it forty-two years. He was getting up around eighty when he said he couldn't got where he couldn't hear what the questions they was voting on and he's hard time so resigned to get out so he quit.
Interviewer:  He was born here? in {B}
330:  He was born right up there on this hill right above me down on the side of the road. In the community right above me.
Interviewer:  Yeah. What about your mother?
330:  She was uh she was born up on above where I was raised at on a road on the left. they come in here I could tell you what my grand- what daddy did Alabama. And she was I imagine she was I'm I'm I'm pretty I'm uh pretty sure she was borned up there. My mother had a brother and a sister and then they had uh my grandmother had married before my father married and she had two girls down in Alabama. {X} {D: at the war} So my mother was born I'd I'd say up there above us up there.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And her parents were from Alabama?
330:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Do you know what part of Alabama?
330:  No I just just don't
Interviewer:  #1 Alabama #
330:  #2 couldn't tell you, just from # Alabama. {X} They was raising cotton.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And they weren't doing any good to come up here and decide the land was a lot better and thought they could make a better living. And they bought a little place I don't imagine {X} three four hundred dollars for the farm
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 I imagine. # Five hundred I'd sit outside {X} {X}
Interviewer:  And uh you wouldn't know anything about their education?
330:  No I just mm-mm I don't know.
Interviewer:  Where you wouldn't know anything about your great grandparents would you? #1 Where they #
330:  #2 Uh-uh. Don't # know anything bout where they went to school at or anything. I know my like I told you one of my uncles was a Baptist preacher and he had had a little course he he had a little education. He could read the Bible you know. {X} {X} I was small, had the measles and he he come see me every morning first thing {X} till I finally broke out. {X} come in one morning said 'God knows you right now.' {X} A good {X} says, 'you'll get alright now John.' He called me John. And I said, 'Well I hope so.' Everything tasted so bad.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  The red measles is tough I tell you. {C: tape overlaid here}
Interviewer:  What do you know about um your mother? You said education and
330:  Daddy?
Interviewer:  Your well your mother's her education.
330:  I imagine she I she went to school some. I imagine she probably got up to fourth, fifth grade, I don't know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  I guess she could read right somebody got sixth grade {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  I guess probably got up to sixth grade maybe. They could they could read the paper.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What um did she was she just a housewife?
330:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What about your father's um parents?
330:  Well my father like I said he was his daddy broken his leg {X} And uh well after he broke his leg he uh I think his mind turned bad and he didn't live no time I don't think. {X} his name was {D: Clay} And he he was lord have mercy my daddy said he never had been no {D: white boy}. He'd get up {D: start climbing} before daylight. It just worked out {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. so they were just four of us there?
330:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Were they born here in {X}
330:  Uh I really don't know where my father's {X} born there but I know he lived right up here at a {X} cross the road up here.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  Well I don't know where he was born. he was he mighta he's born I'd say Tennessee, middle Tennessee I'd imagine maybe he was born in he didn't kinda {X} Alabama.
Interviewer:  Yeah. You wouldn't know where his family came from before that would you? Where his family your uh your father's side of the family where they came from before?
330:  No I just said oh I bet {X} talk about they lived on this little farm, that's it for me.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
330:  #2 and uh # and that's all they ever did speak of, about you know They I imagine he lived there when when he was maybe grew up there, I don't know. I never did well the fact of business is I just never did ask him. I was little you know young back then and I never did ask too much about him. I heard him talk about it now my grandmother lived on father's mother lived on a good while. Till they were old men and married. And the fact is she didn't die till World War One. And uh she uh talked to me about it {C: tape overlaid here} about the hard times they used to have, you know when daddy was {X} trying to make a living for the all those boys and then she up and married again. After he died after and they all married each other as old men she married an old man. and later I'd say four or five years maybe more I don't know how long but several years anyway, then she she died during World War One. One.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about your wife? Um how old is she?
330:  My wife?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  She's she's fifty-nine.
Interviewer:  Okay. And she had a high school education right?
330:  That's right.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um do you know anything about her parents, where they were from, or
330:  Yeah uh I think I think they were raised down near {B} well her father was and her mother was raised down there too, I think, grew up down there.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {C: tape overlaid here}
330:  Her father her father was a {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  {B} and her mother was a {B} she was named after and {B} her mother was and they been dead since {B} one day she died of a heart attack. Just as World War Two got over. She had three three boys isn't it? One of 'em got back here two or three days before she died and the other two was over in {X} when she died. But her father lived on up till he was almost eighty, I think good long while after that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  I guess it's he been dead about eighteen years I'd say her father has something like that.
Interviewer:  Um is your wife real active in church or any #1 clubs? #
330:  #2 Yes, she goes to # Methodist church
Interviewer:  Would you say she's active in it?
330:  Yes she goes every Sunday.
Interviewer:  Okay um now I'd like to get some idea the house that you grew up in. Could you make a little sketch of it for me?
330:  Well um
Interviewer:  Just sort of a where the rooms were you know? {X} Just on the back of this paper.
330:  It's a it's a it's a big uh room so like I said the there was an upstairs and a downstairs and a basement.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And uh I guess we just {X} well {D: a bit the top} {C: tape overlaid here} and a
Interviewer:  Just show me how the rooms were. You know like you're looking at it from above.
330:  Well uh you want the rooms pictured over here in this line?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Just like the room here was called so. You know that kind of thing.
330:  Uh well {X} well and uh {D: well that well now that} {D: front rooms} here this here's the bedroom we called it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  Bed bedroom.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  {X} And uh then uh the dining room was back in here
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  and then the kitchen was right here. Kitchen here and uh and uh this is uh dining room here.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And this is the yeah
330:  D
Interviewer:  Yeah.
330:  dining and then kitchen
Interviewer:  Yes okay.
330:  Kitchen. And uh then with the dining room here we had two big and we had uh big rooms and {D: the biggest lights you ever saw}. Now the upstairs I'm gonna get 'em mixed well that uh we got uh two big rooms. down here would be {D: and the stairs} I would how'd the best way to get it there {NS} uh
Interviewer:  Just show me where the stairs are and then like you know the
330:  Well like well like {D: I was saying} we come in here
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  were stairs. And the front porch that porch, too
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
330:  #2 would come right # down here like this {C: tape overlaid here}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  {X} {X} And you'd come in off this porch well I believe it would be on this end here {D: red room} where the stairs really start. And they'd come on up and circle on like this.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And this is {D: up here} and up uh upstairs here and now there's where I slept. Bedroom.
Interviewer:  Is this is this upstairs now?
330:  This is upstairs right here.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  That's where that's the room I slept in. And over here we had two more {X} rooms bedrooms. Slept in. and down here I believe I'm getting it mixed up over this here I've got it I oughta add this bit this other part down here cuz this is the bedroom. That's my father's slept in dining room and kitchen up there and then these bedrooms here. And this is oh that's what this is there'd need to be a porch here.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  Oh in here in this bedroom here you come in you come in the door here whatever door. Something like this and then this thing the stairway the long line comes in up here.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
330:  {X} And these others got one back over here that does the same thing going in these other rooms. It just it just winds comes along back up like that.
Interviewer:  This stairway?
330:  Mm-hmm big stairway {X} and there was this is a basement. Well I had a basement. And then this porch here. The basement was lined with uh rock and brick walls and had two {X} {D: built in} you know it was a really built high. They say the brick was built made down in the yard.
Interviewer:  Hmm.
330:  {D: and play time} and I've been told that. I couldn't guarantee that but that's what I've been told in my time.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
330:  And uh
Interviewer:  So you had a basement? And then how many rooms did you have on the first floor?
330:  Uh in the basement?
Interviewer:  Uh
330:  I mean up in
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 there? # Well up there was uh six six rooms I believe it was.
Interviewer:  #1 On the first floor? #
330:  #2 {NW} # On the main floor.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And a bathroom we we finally put a bathroom in back here off of the kitchen we had a little room built. Had the well was in the porch here.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  Well had a
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
330:  #2 and this is a # bathroom we had a the well was right here close to right here by the edge of the kitchen {C: tape overlaid here} turn the water off in the bathroom. Later when we got electricity
Interviewer:  So the kitchen was on the the kitchen how many bedrooms were on the first floor, on the main floor? Just one?
330:  No there was uh two two bedrooms at twenty-some odd feet {D: square on the} first floor. Then there's another room there's another attic up there in the top we didn't put anything you coulda you coulda had rooms up in there but we just didn't
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
330:  #2 talk about it. #
330:  That that would've been four stories but we didn't have enough but this
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  So when you walked into the from the porch on into the house you were in what room?
330:  In the bedroom.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and then
330:  And that's where I said the stairs the stairs came up where I slept at and my brother.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And my sister near me slept over in {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. So you were There were two big bedrooms? {D: down} was there anything where would company sit?
330:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Where would company sit?
330:  We we stayed down at their bedroom.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  Where my father slept.
Interviewer:  And then you walked back into the kitchen?
330:  Well right into the dining room and then
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
330:  #2 the kitchen. #
Interviewer:  And then there were three bedrooms upstairs?
330:  Um well uh we we we had we would use 'em as you could make three {X} they was big rooms we didn't have but just a bed in each upstairs. {D: what if somebody put} room
Interviewer:  So you had two huge rooms upstairs?
330:  Uh-huh in this attic and in the attic another room.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
330:  Oh well I said oh we didn't use it. We just stored stuff in that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Let's see so so you had two huge rooms upstairs and two huge rooms #1 downstairs? #
330:  #2 Downstairs. #
330:  And then we had here this uh this little bathroom kitchen and dining room.
Interviewer:  And the bedroom and the bedroom downstairs.
330:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  So two three bedrooms downstairs and a dining room and a kitchen.
330:  That's right.
Interviewer:  I see.
330:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay tell me something about the how you got heating. You said you had #1 firewood? #
330:  #2 Wood. #
330:  Cut wood.
Interviewer:  What would you call you'd lay the wood down on the
330:  On the dog iron.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um and the smoke would go up
330:  Long chimney. {D: way the tallest one like a hey you I look at you and I seen that} {X} pretty sure that slavery was what made those brick right there in the yard. I've been told that and I I imagine that's true, course I couldn't guarantee that but I may know {D: what brick} were made there was old houses old old houses.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  Course the my father spent too much on it {X} working on it and oh then a cyclone hit it twice.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  During the the period by the time we lived there when I lived there. We were milking and the barn we {X} and we were {X} I was milking in the milk barn behind the stock barn.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
330:  And the cyclone hit right one afternoon and it killed three cows {X} {X} I came to and my father's hollering crying oh lordy it had killed me. And uh I told him I came to there's a cow laying dead beside of me down on the concrete you know and I came to I jumped up and run inside. And pulled him out. I think I worried worse than he worried trying to pull him out from under the {D: living room steps}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  I gave him I told him out on the road then my stepmother told him {X} {X} He was well that came {X} old country there {X}
Interviewer:  Mm.
330:  {D: that's two minutes} {X} you don't have any and they just why you come walk up to this. Filled a room full of cars thing. And I can tell you what year that cyclone was. I imagine {X} round uh round nineteen {X} I think right round nineteen ten {B} when it came through. First and then another one came through. I wasn't living there. Tore uh one side and {X} the house off again. Had to put it back. We were we were gone. My father I had sold it he had died and {X} bought it. and he had uh he put it back he didn't have anybody living in it he had bought it but wasn't anybody I don't think living in there I don't think that second time.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  But it killed three cows the first time. In the barn I was milking in, the milk barn. I just a miracle to be living already. {NS}
Interviewer:  Was a is a milk barn different from a regular barn?
330:  Mm-hmm built behind it yeah it joined it but it's behind it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  On each side of it back behind had the straining room where we kept the milk at was there on the south side of it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
330:  {X}
Interviewer:  Did you ever have a special place for milking cows outside?
330:  Uh yeah we after that barn blew away we built another milk barn on the to the we had to build another barn.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
330:  And then we built a sixteen by eighteen foot shed on the east. {X} {C: tape overlaid here} {C: tape overlaid here}