interviewer: that means it's recording now #1 okay # 364: #2 {X} # interviewer: {NS} {NW} Alright and your middle initial is A too isn't it 364: yes A interviewer: okay 364: for- {X} I was saying my A is that's the way my initials yes Andrews uh- middle is Andrews interviewer: and what's your mailing address {B} {NS} were you born in Franklin county? 364: yeah interviewer: In Russelville? Right here 364: what no, not in rus- well e- e- Rockwood interviewer: #1 Rockwood okay # 364: #2 Rockwood # Rockwood Alabama interviewer: I know Rockwood that's where I'm from 364: you are? interviewer: yeah my mother was a Malone, do you know the Malones at Rockwood? 364: what Malone interviewer: Luther 364: your mother {B} interviewer: #1 they certainly {X} # 364: #2 {X} # {B} Oh your grand daddy I know more about the Malone's than you do interviewer: #1 we better not put all that on there # 364: #2 no # interviewer: {NW} {NS} {NW} 364: some things I wouldn't interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # I wouldn't want to broadcast interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: how old are you? 364: eighty-one interviewer: eighty-one 364: {NW} {NS} interviewer: what religion? what church do you #1 go to # 364: #2 Baptist # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # would be Baptist {X} interviewer: you're a retired farmer? 364: well yes {NW} interviewer: where was your mother born? 364: uh she's born in Franklin County interviewer: okay 364: mm-hmm interviewer: and your father? 364: {X} your father, was he born in no no my father was a slave {NS} interviewer: where was he born? 364: South Carolina interviewer: South Carolina mm-kay do you know what kind of formal schooling your mother had how many y- did she go to a to a public school? #1 formal school # 364: #2 y- yes # uh what little schooling we had at that time was public school interviewer: you know what grade she went to? 364: Oh we didn't have any grades interviewer: #1 any grade # 364: #2 no # #1 w- wasn't no # interviewer: #2 Okay {NW} # 364: grade interviewer: okay, did your mother work? 364: yes yes she works she did uh oh I don't know uh mostly housework and she was midwife interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 for several years # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # interviewer: what did your father do? 364: he was a #1 did uh # interviewer: #2 kind of work? # 364: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 364: uh stone work {NS} interviewer: what was your moth- grand- let's see your I mean your mother's parents their names where they were born do you know that about your mother that'd be your grandmother on your mother's side 364: on my mother's side my grandmother {NS} aw {NS} my grandmother was a {NS} she was she was a slave interviewer: mm-kay 364: and she was uh she belonged to the Jones family {X} {B} was my mother's father interviewer: okay {NS} what was her name Mr {D: Teethe} 364: My my grandmother? interviewer: yes sir 364: Ellen interviewer: Ellen? 364: Ellen interviewer: Okay {NS} 364: she was a {D: healman} interviewer: okay 364: {X} interviewer: alright now how about your grandfather on your mother's side 364: my my grandfather that was doctor {B} interviewer: okay {X} how about then on your daddy's side? 364: Nothing, I don't #1 know anything about that # interviewer: #2 don't know anything about that # 364: he was sold in his mother's arms on the block in Nashville Tennessee interviewer: now that's your grandfather 364: #1 That's my father # interviewer: #2 your # #1 father okay # 364: #2 my father # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # and his th- uh ancestry I don't know anything about interviewer: alright how old is your wife? 364: she's sixty-five interviewer: okay same religion? 364: no she's a methodist interviewer: mm-kay {NS} {NW} was she born in Franklin #1 county # 364: #2 yes # interviewer: {NS} {NS} how about her grandparents her parents her parents first 364: her parents w- she uh her mother was a Suggs she was a hmm {B} interviewer: okay 364: and h- her husband was {B} {NW} {X} {X} {NS} {NS} {NS} interviewer: Hello aux: alright how are you interviewer: #1 fine thank you # 364: #2 {NS} # interviewer: {NS} alright it asked me to ask about your social contacts do you um well I know you still go to church do you belong to any kind of clubs like a #1 american legion or anything like that? # 364: #2 I'm yeah # I'm a legionnaire and I'm a uh boy scouts and I'm mason interviewer: okay 364: thirty-second degree mason interviewer: alright 364: uh interviewer: how many children do you have? 364: we raised nine nine children {NS} seven are living interviewer: bet you've got a lot of grandchildren don't you 364: yeah oh I haven't counted interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 recently I know how many # The last time I counted I think they said there's twenty-seven {NW} that's the last t- {C: speed increases towards the end of this chunk} {X} {C: tape sped up} seventeen, eighteen, ninety, twenty interviewer: good thank you now uh the number after twenty-six the number after twenty-seven #1 twenty # 364: #2 twenty-seven # interviewer: #1 seven the number after twenty-nine # 364: #2 # thirty interviewer: the number after thirty-nine 364: forty interviewer: the number after sixty-nine 364: seventy interviewer: after ninety-nine 364: one hundred interviewer: after nine hundred and ninety-nine 364: thousand interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: now the number after nine hundred ninety-nine lets see if I can give you the number now nine hundred ninety-nine thousand nine hundred ninety-nine you know what that one is 364: nine hundred ninety-nine thousand interviewer: nine hundred ninety-nine 364: that's #1 a million # interviewer: #2 a million okay # wish I had that many dollars 364: oh what I interviewer: {NW} 364: oh yes I'd fill all my debt interviewer: {NW} 364: far as it went #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 # interviewer: #2 # okay this has to do with numbers too if there's a line of men somewhere you say the man at the head of the line is which man just a line of men standing there and you're counting them but you'd say the line the man at the head of the line is which one? 364: i- in numbers? Number one interviewer: alright how e- what else would you say for number one? like first second 364: third interviewer: #1 alright # 364: #2 fourth # fifth sixth #1 seventh # interviewer: #2 okay # good {NS} {NS} how about counting on up for me naming those men to the eleventh one? 364: to the eleventh? interviewer: #1 how far how far'd we # 364: #2 and th- and then # interviewer: get let's start over again the first one 364: one two interviewer: #1 not counting them in what order they're standing in # 364: #2 oh # first second third fourth and you want to know the twelfth one interviewer: I want to know all the way through to the eleventh from the first one to the eleventh one 364: that would be the n- next one would be the twelfth interviewer: alright but we stopped at fourth what's the next one? 364: fifth sixth seventh eighth ninth tenth eleventh twe- interviewer: okay good {NS} sometimes you say you feel like you get your good luck just a little bit at a time but your bad luck how? 364: my bad luck? interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: does it come a little at a time or? 364: a- haw i- i- it {X} {NW} my bad luck comes {NW} so often I don't know whether it comes all at once #1 or not {NW} # interviewer: #2 okay {NW} # if you said last year I got twenty bushels to the acre this year I got forty bushels so this year's crop is what compared to last year's 364: twice the yield interviewer: good, uh now name the months of the year for me 364: #1 month of the year oh # interviewer: #2 {NS} # 364: {NS} January February March April May June July August September October November and December interviewer: okay good now let me check my recorder to make sure we getting you {NS} okay we checked it out fine now would you name for me the days of the week? 364: uh beginning at uh I mean Monday's the first day interviewer: okay 364: Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday interviewer: okay you count Sunday the sabbath then? 364: yes interviewer: if you meet someone at about eleven o'clock in the daytime how would you greet him how would you speak to him? 364: about eleven o'clock I'd say good morning interviewer: okay and how about after 364: good evening interviewer: okay uh when you leave somebody how do you leave them what do you say when you leave them? 364: I say goodbye interviewer: okay uh what do you call the part of the day after supper? 364: {X} interviewer: what do you call the part of the day after supper? 364: I'd call it after supper I'd call it night interviewer: mm-kay, you must eat late 364: uh-huh I do interviewer: okay {NW} {NS} if you have to get up and start working just as the sun comes into sight you say you had start when? {NS} 364: sun up interviewer: okay uh you say we were a little late this morning when we started out in the field the sun had already 364: risen interviewer: okay if you worked 'til the sun went out of sight you worked until 364: uh sundown interviewer: okay today is Tuesday and Monday was today is Tuesday and Monday was {NS} 364: m- Monday was I don't get interviewer: #1 okay t- like this is Tuesday today and so what do you call Monday in relationship to today # 364: #2 that y- yes # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # I'd call it uh interviewer: the day before today 364: I'd call it the first day of the week interviewer: okay but it like on this is a Tuesday and we'd say this today is Tuesday and Monday was 364: yesterday interviewer: yes okay and Wednesday will be 364: would be tomorrow interviewer: okay if somebody came on Sunday last Sunday and he came a week earlier than last Sunday you'd say he came here when 364: last week interviewer: okay if he's going to leave next Sunday a week beyond Sunday it'd be what? 364: next Sunday {NS} interviewer: if somebody stayed at your house from the first to the fifteenth of the month how long would you say he stayed? 364: I'd say he stayed a half a month interviewer: you ever heard anybody call it a fortnight 364: beg pa- interviewer: did you ever hear anybody call that a fortnight? 364: uh yes I've heard, I've heard it interviewer: #1 but you don't use the term # 364: #2 e- no # #1 use the term # interviewer: #2 okay # 364: #1 {NS} # interviewer: #2 # if you want to know the time of day what do you do? you ask somebody? 364: ask somebody or {NS} interviewer: how would you ask them? 364: what time is it interviewer: okay 364: #1 please # interviewer: #2 and then # 364: #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # and then they get what out of their pocket to tell you? {NS} 364: thank you interviewer: then they what do they tell you the time by though? #1 what do they use to tell you the time # 364: #2 {NS} # their watch interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 mm-hmm # interviewer: midway between seven o'clock and eight o'clock is what time? {NS} {NS} 364: midway interviewer: yes sir 364: #1 oh that's half past # interviewer: #2 {NS} # #1 half past # 364: #2 {NS} # #1 mm-hmm # interviewer: #2 {NS} # #1 uh how about if it's ten forty-five? Do you # 364: #2 {NS} # #1 quarter to eleven # interviewer: #2 {NS} # 364: #1 # interviewer: #2 # if you've been doing something for a long time you might tell me I've been doing that {NS} 364: #1 Wouldn't it that depends on how ah uh the length of time I've been doing it # interviewer: #2 {NS} # 364: #1 by # interviewer: #2 okay # 364: I'd there's some things I've been doing I call it all my life interviewer: okay have you ever heard anybody say for quite a spell? 364: yes quite a spell interviewer: #1 okay you use that term? # 364: #2 I # I use quite a while interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: #1 {NS} # 364: #2 # interviewer: #1 you say business wasn't very good th- last year but I hope it'll be better # 364: #2 # next year interviewer: uh if a child has just had his third birthday you'd say he is 364: three years old interviewer: if something happened about this time last year you'd say it happened 364: mm it ha- I'd say it happened a year ago interviewer: you look up at the sky and say I don't like the looks of those black 364: clouds interviewer: if it's the night and you at the sky and there are no clouds around you say I believe we're going to have a 364: beautiful day I would say interviewer: good if it's not a nice day the sun is not shining and bright you'd say it's what kind of day 364: I would say it's a cloudy day uh yes I'd say cloudy interviewer: alright if it's been fair like it has been and then the clouds come and you expect rain or snow in a little while what do you say about the weather 364: I would say the weather's turned foul interviewer: if it's been cloudy and the clouds go away and the sun comes up what do you say about the weather 364: it's gone {D: fair off} interviewer: #1 good # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # interviewer: If you have a lots of rain that comes down all at once what would you call that heavy rain? 364: downpour interviewer: there was one in here I thought was real interesting did you ever hear anybody call it a a goose drownder? 364: #1 {X} # interviewer: #2 a goose drownder # 364: #1 # interviewer: #2 # a heavy rain #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: {NW} 364: #1 I've heard the expression a gully washer # interviewer: #2 yeah # #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: {NW} uh somebody else I did called it a frog strangler 364: #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: well I would they've used so many {X} interviewer: what do you call a storm that has thunder and lightning 364: mm that has well a storm interviewer: that has thunder and lightning 364: cyclone interviewer: okay 364: Sorry I interviewer: check {NS} if the ven- wind was very high during the night you'd say all night the long all night long the wind has 364: blown interviewer: uh if the wind's coming from ooh I guess that direction what is that? 364: south interviewer: okay the wind's from the 364: south interviewer: okay uh a wind halfway because between south and west what do you call 364: call it uh southwest interviewer: okay and halfway between uh south and east? 364: uh southeast interviewer: and halfway between east and north? 364: northeast interviewer: and halfway between west and north? 364: #1 northwest # interviewer: #2 okay # 364: #1 # interviewer: #2 # if it's raining but not raining very hard just a few fine drops coming down how would you describe that rain? 364: I'd say it's uh uh wait a minute sprinkle interviewer: okay 364: {NW} uh some {NS} a sprinkle interviewer: then a shower be a little bit more than a sprinkle wouldn't it? 364: w- yes yes interviewer: and when it's just bad it's coming down like you just look out and you can't really see it but you know it's coming down 364: a mist interviewer: okay 364: call that a mist {NS} interviewer: what do you call that uh white stuff that comes up from the ground some cold mornings 364: I call it dew interviewer: #1 alright # 364: #2 {X} # yeah dew interviewer: dew but some mornings you get up and like it's just a little ti- well not not necessarily cold but you see this white stuff and it's hard to drive through #1 call it # 364: #2 uh # fog interviewer: if it hadn't rained in a long time what do you call that? 364: a drought interviewer: the wind's been real gentle and now it's getting stronger gradually what would you say it's doing {NS} 364: well see now what would I call that {NS} {NS} would you mind repeating it please? interviewer: uh the wind's just it's been very gentle and it's just gradually getting stronger what would you say about the wind? {NS} 364: wind is rising #1 I say # interviewer: #2 okay # 364: the wind's rising interviewer: okay if it's just the opposite and the wind has been strong and now the wind is getting weaker and weaker 364: I said th- it's gonna cease be the wind's ceasing interviewer: okay {NS} on a morning in the fall and you find it's cold but not real cold the kind of weather you like to be out in what would you say this morning it's rather 364: pleasant {NS} interviewer: if there's a white coating on the ground you say you had a 364: frost {NW} interviewer: you'd say it was so cold last night the lake did what? 364: froze interviewer: if it gets much colder tonight the pond might 364: freeze interviewer: and it had before I got out there #1 the pond # 364: #2 had # already frozen interviewer: alright {NS} what do you call this room in your house {NS} {C: rooster crowing} 364: #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {X} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: {NW} living room interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 I just # {NW} interviewer: #1 some people call them you know sitting rooms okay # 364: #2 yes # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # interviewer: uh about how high would you say this room is 364: nine feet interviewer: okay #1 the smoke goes up through the what you got one # 364: #2 chimney # interviewer: okay if if there's that kind of thing like a chimney on a factory do you still call it a chimney? 364: no I call it a on a factory? interviewer: yes sir 364: I call it smoke stack interviewer: alright and what's back of the fire place? #1 called {X} # 364: #2 hearth # the hearth interviewer: #1 and this one # 364: #2 {NS} {C: rooster crowing} # uh mantle interviewer: alright {NS} what's the big round piece of wood with the bark on it that you put in the fireplace to make a big fire 364: back spit interviewer: what do you call the kind of wood you use to start a fire with? 364: kindling #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: {NS} {C: rooster crowing} interviewer: what is the black stuff that forms in the chimney called? 364: soot interviewer: alright and when the fire burns down real low and just leaves something what do you 364: ashes interviewer: alright and what color are they 364: white interviewer: alright what do you call that piece of furniture you're sitting in? 364: a th- the name of #1 it or the # interviewer: #2 yes # 364: chair interviewer: alright and this piece of furniture 364: th- that's a couch interviewer: alright what's a piece of furniture in your bed room that has drawers in it and you put your clothes in 364: uh tha- that'd be the dresser interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: the room where you sleep? what do you call that room 364: I call mine the dog house interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: and you stay in it all the time 364: #1 yeah # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: sure do #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: yeah they put me in the dog house {NW} interviewer: #1 what do you call all these tables and chairs and beds as a group? # 364: #2 furniture # that's what it is interviewer: alright the thing that you pull down to shut light out? 364: shades interviewer: okay 364: {NW} #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # what look a little room off the bedroom that you hang your clothes up in #1 called # 364: #2 closet # interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: #1 {X} # 364: #2 {NS} # interviewer: that rooster gonna get louder than you and me both isn't he if you don't have a closet what might you have to put your clothes in? 364: uh interviewer: if you didn't have a built in closet? 364: if you don't have it? interviewer: mm-hmm what would you call something that you might be in your bedroom that you put your clothes in hang them up in? 364: uh #1 I don't I hardly really know # interviewer: #2 {NS} # #1 Did you ever have something called a wardrobe? # 364: #2 call it # interviewer: #1 Oh yeah yeah {X} yeah # 364: #2 a chifforobe or # chifforobe or wardrobe interviewer: okay 364: {D: oopsie} interviewer: what's the room at the top of the house that's just under the roof called 364: just under the roof? interviewer: yes sir 364: uh that's now that sort of depends on what the what sort of house it is okay what would you call this one for instance under this house? I'd call it neither just under the roof of this is the uh this th- we have a second floor here aux: #1 upstairs # interviewer: #2 you have an upstairs # okay but if you didn't have an upstairs what would you call between this ceiling and the roof 364: attic interviewer: okay and the room that you cook in? 364: kitchen interviewer: uh what do you call the little room off the kitchen where you store canned goods 364: that's the closet interviewer: okay uh what do you call a lot of old worthless things that you need to throw away {NS} 364: my folks called it junk interviewer: #1 okay {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: what would you call a room that you use to store that in? 364: uh storage room interviewer: okay uh if you're talking about your wife cleaning up uh da- doing the daily housework what would you say she does every morning? 364: house cleaning interviewer: okay uh what does she sweep with? 364: broom interviewer: uh years ago on Monday morning women usually did what? 364: on Monday morning? interviewer: yes sir what'd they used to do on monday morning do it all the time now I do 364: wash interviewer: right {NW} 364: #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # how do you get from the first floor to the second floor in a two story house? 364: on the stairway interviewer: alright if you had stairs both inside and outside the house would you call them by a different name? would you still call both 364: I'd call one outside and one inside stairway interviewer: #1 you'd still call them stairway okay # 364: #2 stairway yeah # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # interviewer: what's uh that built across the front of your house called that I walked up on when I came here? 364: the porch interviewer: okay what would you call one of those that was big and had columns under it would you still call it a porch? 364: yes interviewer: okay 364: {NW} interviewer: can you have a porch on more than one floor? 364: sure interviewer: what do you call the one that's upstairs? 364: now I do- I wouldn't know what I'd just call it the upstair- uh- the upper porch interviewer: {X} do you call like uh one at the back door the same thing? 364: yes interviewer: if it has a roof on it does it make a difference what you call it? 364: mm {NS} interviewer: does it make do you call it the same thing if it has a roof on it or if it doesn't have a roof on it 364: I would interviewer: you would okay if the door is open you don't want it that way you tell someone to do what? 364: close it interviewer: uh what do you call the boards on the outside of a house that lap over each other? 364: that's the weather boarding {NS} interviewer: uh if you want to hang something out in the barn you just take a nail and do what? you want to hang something up you take a nail and do what to it? {NS} with a hammer 364: uh drive a nail an ha- and uh hang the {X} whatever interviewer: alright if the nail didn't go far enough in you'd say it's got to be 364: uh if it don't go far enough in? interviewer: if it doesn't go far enough in the first time what would you say about it besides an ugly word 364: aw interviewer: {NW} {NS} 364: {X} that's a that's a tough one interviewer: I didn't drive it in far enough it has to be 364: uh driven deeper interviewer: good #1 okay # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: what do you call the part of the house that covers the top? 364: roof interviewer: okay what do you call the little things along the edge of the roof that carry water off 364: the gutter {NS} interviewer: if you uh have a house in an L what do you call the place where the two come together up at the top like you got on your roof it comes together like this what do you call this part? 364: uh interviewer: I may not be describing it right 364: I I think I get what you but I can't remember I can't remember valley I'd call it the va- {NW} interviewer: uh what d- would you call a little building outside that you use for storing tools? 364: I'd call it a tool house interviewer: alright what about if you use it to store wood what would you call 364: wood house interviewer: okay what do you call an outdoor toilet? 364: I'd call it a privy interviewer: #1 okay {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: any other joking words that you know that you'd call an outdoor toilet 364: well I {NW} I don't I don't I don't know I {NW} interviewer: uh 364: Uh I- I wouldn't interviewer: okay that's fine if you had troubles and were telling me about them you might say well {NS} 364: I don't remember or I don't know interviewer: alright your troubles you're telling me about your troubles you'd say well 364: uh interviewer: you'd say I've got my troubles too I've had my troubles too 364: Yeah I'd I yes {NS} I'd have I've I would say I've had the same trouble that you that you you undergoing now interviewer: okay 364: or similar troubles interviewer: If I say did you hear that noise outside how would you reply? 364: I did not or I did interviewer: would you say I heard it? 364: yes interviewer: Or did- okay uh if I ask you if you know a person you might say no I really don't know him but I've 364: seen him interviewer: okay 364: {NW} interviewer: If a friend came back to town and another friend had been visiting with him you might be asked have you seen him you seen him yet and you might {D: supposed} to say no I 364: haven't seen him interviewer: uh {NS} uh something that you do every day do you do it frequently I ask and you'd say yes I 364: do that every day interviewer: does your brother like ice cream yes he 364: does {NS} interviewer: if your son is in school but doesn't pay any attention to the teacher you might think he just 364: silly interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # like I am #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # alright if a man let his farm get all run down and doesn't seem to care you might say to someone who asks I really don't know but he just 364: lazy interviewer: um if you've been trying to make up your mind about something would you say I've been thinking about it or I've been thinking around it 364: I'd say I've been thinking about it interviewer: okay {NS} you might say you live in a framed 364: house interviewer: uh are there other kinds around here? 364: no interviewer: uh the big buildings behind the house where you store hay what do you call that the building you store corn in? 364: barn interviewer: okay you do make any difference between a corn crib and a barn? 364: well no no I wouldn't interviewer: okay 364: same {X} interviewer: what do you call a building or a type of building where you store grain 364: grain bin interviewer: okay the upper part of a barn is called what? maybe where you might store hay 364: oh uh a- uh we call it the loft interviewer: okay e- uh if you've got some hay piled up five up outside what do you call that? 364: hay stack interviewer: when you first cut the hay what do you do with it? 364: uh rake it {X} interviewer: alright do you know any names for small piles of hay raked up in a field 364: small piles interviewer: yes sir what would you call that 364: well wh- w- w- we called them hay cocks interviewer: alright {NS} it's been about how much time do we have left on that one where do you keep your cows 364: in the pasture interviewer: alright if you keep them in a special shelter when it's raining what do you call that? 364: shed interviewer: alright uh what do you call a place where you keep your horses? 364: uh I'd call it the stable interviewer: alright besides the barn did you ever have a special place where you'd milk the cows outside 364: the cow pen interviewer: uh where do you keep hogs and pigs 364: keep them in the uh hog pen interviewer: alright does this have a shelter or is it open 364: it's open {NS} interviewer: {NW} how about where we get milk and butter from now what do you call that place? where they make milk and butter now #1 uh where # 364: #2 the dairy # interviewer: alright uh it asks you if the word dairy has any other meanings for you 364: dairy uh I wouldn't I'd think not interviewer: alright it refers to uh maybe a place where people used to keep their milk and butter before they had milk and butter did you call that a dairy where they kept milk and butter? to keep it cool? 364: mm no we usually we used to put it in the spring if we had no spring we put it in the well I helped cool my milk in the well interviewer: okay 364: open well not the dug wells interviewer: okay 364: but the usually in the spring interviewer: what do you call a place around a barn where you let cows mules and other animals walk around 364: barn yard interviewer: what do you call the place where you let them go out to graze 364: pasture interviewer: is it fenced or not 364: it is {NS} interviewer: uh I know you've raised cotton hadn't you 364: oh yes interviewer: what kind of work do you do when you raise cotton what are some of the terms 364: uh well you after planting you e- e- uh you chop it so m- so much to do plow it up plow it and uh {NW} ne- when it's ripe you pick it interviewer: okay what do you call grass that grows up in a cotton field where you don't want it? 364: {D: flowers} interviewer: {NW} my granddaddy I my other name is Gist do you know the Gist family? 364: Gist? No interviewer: my granddaddy Gist used to say that the only way you could get rid of Johnson grass was to move off and leave 364: #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: we that applies to b- Bermuda it don't for Johnson grass sitting there s- sm- Bermuda interviewer: cotton and corn grow in a what? 364: field interviewer: how about tobacco 364: uh it grows in a field interviewer: #1 okay what things would you say were grown in a patch? # 364: #2 too # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # patch a small plot of of land interviewer: #1 that's different from a field # 364: #2 yeah smaller # smaller interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 yeah # interviewer: how about a lot? lot? well that's 364: about the same as a patch interviewer: alright what kind of fences do you have around yards and gardens some of the different kinds of fences we're talking about a pretty fence now that you put around the flowers maybe to keep the chickens out 364: net wire wh- what I was saying interviewer: okay what about one that's made out of little strips of wood? 364: palings interviewer: and what kind of fence uh wire fence that you might catch your pants on if you try to climb over what do you call that fence? it's wire and has little sticky things on it 364: barbed wire interviewer: what do you call the kind of fence made out of split rail that you lay zig zag 364: mm that's a regular fence interviewer: okay when you set up a barb wire fence you have to dig holes for the what? 364: posts interviewer: alright what do you call just one of them? 364: hickory interviewer: just one of those that you dig a hole for 364: panels interviewer: okay what do you call a fence or a wall made out of loose rock that you might take out of a field? you go out and gather up some loose rock in a field and build a fence out of it what would you call that? that kind of fence 364: I m- I'd call it a stone fence interviewer: okay what term would you use in describing your wife's best dishes? 364: uh china interviewer: alright did you ever see a egg made out of china? 364: yes interviewer: what do you do with it? 364: nest egg {NW} a nest egg interviewer: okay uh what would you use to carry water in? 364: pail interviewer: would it be made out of wood or metal? 364: either interviewer: okay what d- would you use to carry milk in? 364: it'd be a #1 pail # interviewer: #2 alright is there any difference between a bucket and a pail? # 364: #1 # interviewer: #2 # 364: no interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 no # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # interviewer: what kind of bucket might you keep in a kitchen to throw scraps for the pigs in? 364: a slop bucket interviewer: okay what do you fry eggs in? 364: frying pan interviewer: what's it made out of? {NS} 364: uh {NS} s- they're made of steel a frying pan interviewer: What did they used to be made out of? 364: #1 yeah # interviewer: #2 old black ones # 364: uh iron interviewer: alright uh what what was something that was big and black and used to have it out in the back yard you used it for to heat water to boil your clothes in? 364: that's the wash pot interviewer: okay would you use it for anything else besides boiling clothes in? 364: yeah heating water if uh {X} like that interviewer: okay uh 364: {NW} interviewer: uh you call it a pot would you also call it a kettle? 364: yes interviewer: what do you call a container that you put flowers in to look pretty? 364: uh flower pot interviewer: how about if it's uh just a smaller one a glass one you wouldn't call it a pot like that one with those flowers in it what would you call that? 364: vase interviewer: okay what are the eating utensils that you set at each plate when you're setting the table for supper? 364: plate interviewer: alright, what else? 364: knife and fork interviewer: okay if you serve steak and it wasn't very tender you might have to put ki- some kind of special steak something by the plate what would you put 364: cup and saucer interviewer: no something to cut the steak with 364: oh knife interviewer: #1 different kind of knife though than the regular knife that you put on the t- # 364: #2 yeah # steak knife interviewer: okay if the dishes are all dirty you'd say it's almost supper time before we can have supper we've got to have some clean dishes somebody's got to 364: wash #1 dishes {NW} # interviewer: #2 okay {NW} # after your wife washes the di- dishes then what does she do with them? 364: dry them interviewer: okay how about in between washing and drying? 364: rinse them interviewer: okay what do you call the cloth or the rag you use to wash dishes? 364: we call it the dish rag interviewer: okay what do you call the one that you use to dry dishes 364: drying cloth interviewer: what do you call a small square cloth that you use to wash your face? 364: I didn't get #1 that # interviewer: #2 small cloth that you use to wash your face with # {NS} 364: a face um you- you- it's a cloth? interviewer: yes sir 364: oh a wash cloth interviewer: okay and after bathing what do you use do dry yourself off with? 364: uh bath towel interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: what's the thing called the water pipe on the kitchen sink that you use to #1 turn water on # 364: #2 faucet # a faucet you say it was so cold out last night that our water pipes froze interviewer: and then what 364: busted interviewer: okay people used to buy flour in a big container what was it called? 364: a barrel interviewer: {NW} what did molasses come in when you to buy it in large quantities 364: mm we c- also I've seen it in barrels and kegs interviewer: okay how about lard? what was it called in large quantities? 364: lard interviewer: yes sir 364: {D: hands} interviewer: how about a stand? a stand of lard 364: stand of lard yeah #1 yeah # interviewer: #2 okay # 364: that's that's a stand of lard interviewer: okay what do you use if you've got a little bitty bottle and you want to pour something in it from a #1 bigger bottle # 364: #2 funnel # I'd use a funnel interviewer: what do you use to make the horses go faster when you're riding in a buggy? 364: whip interviewer: uh if you bought fruit at the store the man might put them in what? {NS} 364: bag interviewer: okay uh 364: {NW} interviewer: how would a very large sack a- a very large quantity of sugar packaged you bought a lot of sugar what would you call it? 364: uh interviewer: a fairly large quantity 364: {D: I} well it the- let's see a large quantity now of sugar would co- I have seen it in barrels a barrel of sugar w- we used to used to get it in barrels interviewer: how about fifty pounds of flour? would that come 364: fifty pounds interviewer: yes sir 364: yeah we'd it wouldn't be a that wouldn't be a barrel fifty pounds interviewer: okay what is there do you make a difference in what you call a sack that's made out of paper and one that's called out of- made out of material? made out of cloth 364: I'd call one a cloth sack and one a paper sack interviewer: but you'd call both sack 364: sacks interviewer: #1 alright # 364: #2 yeah # interviewer: what do you call a bag or a sack that potatoes come shipped in 364: uh interviewer: or maybe feed or seed what kind of bag is that that it comes in? 364: uh {NS} {X} {NS} interviewer: made out of a little 'bout like mesh material {NS} 364: croker sack interviewer: Okay 364: croker sack interviewer: is that the same thing as a tow sack? 364: yes #1 a tow # interviewer: #2 okay # 364: sack a croker #1 sack {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # I never heard it called anything but a tow sack and what else did you #1 call it # 364: #2 croker # croker sack interviewer: croker #1 I never heard it called that # 364: #2 croker sack # you haven't heard of that? interviewer: #1 no sir # 364: #2 well # interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # now in- in- in- in uh in different places you'll se- uh give me a tow sack now maybe at some other place say give me croker sack interviewer: how do you spell that that you're calling that? 364: I think it's spelled I think it begins with a K I'm not certain though interviewer: I just never heard the term before I that'd be a good one #1 I don't I don't know that # 364: #2 yeah croker sack {NW} oh yeah # interviewer: what do you call the amount of corn you take to the mill at one time to be ground 364: kern interviewer: uh what about the amount of wood you can carry amount of wood you can carry what do you call that 364: well now that's different terms sometimes you call it a pack of wood and a armful of wood uh {NW} interviewer: when the light turns out an el- an electric lamp you might you'd have to put in a new what? 364: bulb interviewer: okay when you carry the washing out to hang it up on the line what do you carry it out in? 364: uh {NS} {D: it be a} clothes ba- clothes bag or {NW} interviewer: she's helping 364: clothes basket interviewer: #1 yeah {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # interviewer: what do nails come in 364: kegs interviewer: what runs around a barrel to hold the wood in place? 364: that's the hoop interviewer: what do you put in the top of the bottle to keep it from spilling out? 364: that's the cork stopper interviewer: okay what do you put in your mouth and {D: row} it back and forth to play 364: blow in it? interviewer: #1 yes sir the a musical instrument # 364: #2 oh that's # a french harp interviewer: okay what about one that you hole between your teeth and you {D: plunk it} 364: the old jew's harp interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: uh what do you pound nails with 364: hammer interviewer: if you have a wagon and two horses what's the long wooden piece called between the horses? 364: the wagon tongue interviewer: if you have a horse pulling a buggy before you hitch him you have to back him in between what? 364: the shafts interviewer: uh for the parts of the wheel you start with the inside the hub and the spokes that would be in the what? 364: the felloe interviewer: now wh- when you speak of felloe wh- do you mean just the individual piece with two spoke holes or all those pieces combined 364: I- I uh either one it- now some some felloes are solid we call them solid felloes the don't only two pieces cause they're solid felloe it uh they joins in the in the middle that's uh they're more more often seen in buggys but now wagons usually carry uh two spokes each sp- each piece has two spokes but I have seen them in wagon wheels solid felloes {NS} interviewer: uh on a buggy the thing the traces come back to in order to hook on what's that called 364: the trace interviewer: okay uh on a wagon you'd have two horses and each one has a singletree what do you a thing that #1 both {X} # 364: #2 doubletree # interviewer: what would you say somebody's doing when he's filling up his wagon at the wood lot wood lot taking it to his house and filling it up again? 364: hauling wood interviewer: okay uh if there was a log across the road you'd say I tied a rope to it and 364: uh tied a rope to the log? interviewer: yes sir and then did what to it? 364: drug it out interviewer: okay uh what did you break the ground with in the spring? 364: cutting plow interviewer: okay after you've plowed what do you use #1 to break ground # 364: #2 {X} # interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: what is it that the wheel of the wagon fit on to? 364: the wheels of a wagon? on the axle interviewer: okay what do you call an X-shaped frame that you lay a log across to chop into stove wood 364: a chopping block interviewer: uh what do you call an A-shaped frame that you use to lay boards ac make a table for a church supper? {NW} something like this {NS} 364: you lay what on them? interviewer: It says you lay uh boards across maybe to make a table for a church supper and you've got these things shaped like an A what do you call those? 364: I wouldn't hardly get that I interviewer: okay how about uh you ever heard anybody call a saw buck the X-shaped thing is that a saw buck? Is that called a saw buck? 364: buck oh yes yes #1 yes # interviewer: #2 well is that the same thing as a saw horse? # 364: yes some some call them a saw horse and some a uh buck horse buck yeah buck horse interviewer: okay are they both X-shaped 364: #1 yes yes # interviewer: #2 like this? Okay # 364: #1 {NS} # interviewer: #2 # uh you straighten your hair with a comb and a what? 364: brush interviewer: uh you sharpen a razor strap I mean a razor on something a leather what do you call that? 364: razor strap interviewer: okay, what do you put in a revolver? in a gun 364: cartridges interviewer: what do call the playground equipment that children play on where one child balances the other? 364: see saw interviewer: {NW} what do you call a limber plank that's fixed at both ends that children used to come up and ju- come jump up and down on 364: spring board interviewer: there might be a plank that's anchored in the middle to a post or a stump and chil- {NS} a long rope that you tie to a tree limb and put a seat on it what do you call that? 364: {X} interviewer: #1 a long rope maybe you tie it up on a tree limb and put a seat on it for children to play on # 364: #2 oh # swing yes {X} interviewer: what would you call a container for coal that you keep near a stove or a fire place? 364: container the scuttle interviewer: okay what runs from the stove to the chimney 364: that's the stove pipe interviewer: okay uh what do you have outside that you move things around in a little small vehicle that you hold on to and move things around in 364: uh {NS} ah what would I call that #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # maybe you'd carry bricks in it 364: uh huh I know what you're talking about but I just can't think of the name #1 {NW} # aux: #2 wheel barrow # 364: #1 # aux: #2 # interviewer: a wheelbarrow 364: well yes a wheelbarrow but uh I was thinking you's talking about a we call them a trucks really two handled trucks you know interviewer: yeah well I've never heard them called trucks but that's one of the names here that's something they say 364: #1 yeah # interviewer: #2 called by # 364: well uh lots of times y- you go to these uh warehouses they have little trucks you know interviewer: yeah 364: load them up and push them interviewer: #1 like you put maybe a refrigerator on # 364: #2 yeah yeah # interviewer: {NS} what do you call a thing that you sharpen a knife on? 364: uh whet stone interviewer: uh the kind of stone that turns around that's fixed on a stand 364: uh that's uh grinding st- ro- stone interviewer: okay uh if you didn't when you when you went from a wagon to a motorized vehicle what did you call it if you don't drive a wagon you drive a what? 364: car interviewer: okay if something is squeaking to lubricate it you have to do what to it 364: oil it interviewer: okay if I say not oil but this hard stuff that you put on it what do you call that? 364: I call that {X} axle grease interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 if it's a # wagon interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: if grease got all over your hand's what would you say 364: {NW} oily I'd say my hand's is greasy #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 okay # uh what is it that you use to burn in lamps 364: coal oil interviewer: #1 Is there another name? # 364: #2 uh kerosene # kerosene interviewer: okay what might you call a makeshift lamp that you make with a rag a bottle and kerosene It'd be a homemade lamp you'd make it with a rag and a bottle and kerosene 364: torch {NS} interviewer: inside the tire of a of a car what is that? inside the tire of a car 364: inner tube interviewer: uh if you've just built a boat and were going to put it in the water what would you say you're going to do to it? 364: I'd say I was gonna launch my boat interviewer: what kind of boat would you go fishing in on a small lake? 364: row boat interviewer: what would you call one with a flat bottom 364: hmm well that c- that could be a flat bottom uh boat too a row interviewer: okay a row boat could have a round or a flat #1 bottom # 364: #2 {X} either one # interviewer: if you were going to the next village and I said will you be home today you might say no I 364: If you're gonna visit? interviewer: you were gone go maybe to town I said and I asked you are you going to be home today and you'd say no I 364: I'd say I- I- I can't make it I won't be back in time or no just interviewer: #1 just flat no # 364: #2 no just flat no {NW} # interviewer: he said he was going to get some cake and you'd say uh now I'm 364: too interviewer: okay if a child has just learned to dress himself and the mother brings in the clothes she'd lay them down and say what? 364: put them on put on your clothes interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 okay {NW} # interviewer: If I asked you if you think Mr Nixon is going to be elected again you might say no but 364: uh I would say th- well I- I don't know what term I'd use for Nixon interviewer: #1 {NW} I chose a bad name didn't I {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # I'd like to say I'd like to say I'd rather not say #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {X} # interviewer: #2 {X} # if you think Governor Wallace is going to be elected again you'd say no but 364: #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: {NW} ah let's not {X} #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: {NW} interviewer: you might say no but I know a lot of people who think he is 364: yeah oh yes {NW} interviewer: if you meet a little boy on the street and he's afraid of you you might tell him that you were not going to hurt him by saying don't cry I little boy's afraid of you on the street and you'd say don't cry I 364: I'm your friend or interviewer: alright you might tell a boy send your dog over here I'm not gonna 364: hurt him interviewer: I just want what? 364: to play with him interviewer: alright if you've been having an argument with somebody and you wanted to ask him if you didn't think you were right about this you'd say well I'm right and then what would you say? 364: I'd say no you are not interviewer: {NW} okay you'd say well I'm right aren't I? Or I'm right am I not? How would you ask him? 364: I'd say you're not right {NS} interviewer: uh if someone thanks you for a ride into town you might say don't mention it we 364: uh interviewer: you gave somebody a ride and thanked you and you say oh don't mention it we 364: I- I mm you're I would say you're welcome or uh interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 yeah # interviewer: di- you might say well don't mention it we were going to town anyway 364: well yes yes interviewer: uh if you were talking about the old age when everything was better than it is now you might lean back and say 364: we used to interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # we used {NW} interviewer: you'd say those were the good old days 364: yeah interviewer: {NW} if somebody asks was that a- was that you I saw in town yesterday you might say no it 364: wasn't me interviewer: okay do you ever hear anybody use uh like if somebody says how are you instead of saying um how are you have you ever heard anybody say how be you? how be you? 364: I have heard it sure I have heard interviewer: #1 is that an old expression do you # 364: #2 it's # an old expression interviewer: #1 and it means the same as how are you # 364: #2 same # how are you interviewer: uh if a woman wants to buy a dress of a certain color she might take along a little square cloth to use as what? 364: sample interviewer: uh a little girl has on a very becoming dress you might say my what a 364: pretty little dress interviewer: #1 okay {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: what might your wife wear over her dress in the kitchen? 364: her apron interviewer: to sign your name in ink you use what? 364: pen interviewer: to hold a baby's diaper in place you use 364: pin interviewer: okay uh soup you buy usually comes in what? 364: {X} interviewer: when you buy soup what does it usually come in? when you buy it at the store, soup 364: uh box interviewer: alright it but if it's liquid what would it come in? instead of a bottle? 364: a a- a s- soup? interviewer: soup that you eat 364: #1 oh soup soup {X} # interviewer: #2 like campbell's {NW} # 364: if it if it ca- uh a can interviewer: #1 alright # 364: #2 it'd be in a can # interviewer: what kind of can? 364: tin can interviewer: alright and a dime is worth how many cents? 364: ten interviewer: what do you put on when you go out in the winter time to keep you warm? 364: a normal coat interviewer: okay you'd say that jacket has fancy buttons 364: on the front interviewer: okay what times uh sometimes you wear a suit in between the uh the coat and the shirt there's another piece what do you #1 call that # 364: #2 it'd be a # vest {NS} #1 {NW} # interviewer: #2 {NW} # interviewer: a suit consists of a coat and a vest and what else 364: trousers interviewer: do you any other names 364: pants interviewer: okay what do you wear when you're working around the barn or the shop? {NS} instead of pants? {NS} 364: th- th- they'd be overalls interviewer: #1 Okay # 364: #2 {NW} # overalls interviewer: uh if you had just come home from work and your wife said about a package name delivered there the delivery boy from Jones store just 364: just dropped it off interviewer: okay if it was the wrong package Jones might call up and say please 364: return it interviewer: okay that coat won't fit this year but last year it 364: it {NS} won't fit this year but last year it was a nice fit interviewer: okay if your old clothes wore out you'd have to buy a what? 364: new suit interviewer: okay 364: if they're available interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: if you stuff a lot of things in your pockets like hickory nuts what does it make them do? 364: rattle interviewer: {NW} how about what do you call those that makes them stick out like this? {NS} 364: you- your pocket? interviewer: yes sir 364: uh bulge interviewer: #1 alright # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: #1 uh # 364: #2 {NS} # interviewer: if you bought a new shirt and your wife put in in hot wer- hot water hot what might it do? 364: draw up interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 # interviewer: if a girl spends all her time in the mirror making herself look pretty what would you say she likes to do? 364: like to primp interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: uh what do you call something you carry your money in? 364: uh if I had any I'd carry it in my pocket book interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: if it was small and a woman carried it what would you call it 364: purse interviewer: okay what does a woman wear around her wrist like this 364: bracelet interviewer: and around her neck? 364: uh interviewer: #1 maybe a lot of little things strung together # 364: #2 yeah e- uh # interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # oh that's I know interviewer: you string 364: necklace interviewer: #1 alright a necklace # 364: #2 necklace # mm-hmm interviewer: uh #1 but some of them that are just be- uh huh that's what I wanted {NW} # 364: #2 beads beads{NW} # interviewer: what do men wear to hold up their trousers 364: uh belt a interviewer: #1 alright, instead of a belt what # 364: #2 a uh suspend- # suspenders interviewer: what do you hold over your head when it rains 364: hat umbrella interviewer: okay what's the last thing you put on a bed the fancy top cover when you make up your bed called? 364: uh bed spread interviewer: uh at the head of the bed you put your head on what? 364: pillow interviewer: uh do you remember using anything at the head of a bed that was about twice as long as a pillow? 364: we called them bolsters {NS} interviewer: okay {NS} what would you call a bed cover that's old fashioned and hand pieced out of scraps 364: quilt interviewer: #1 what would you call a makeshift sleeping place down on the floor that children like to sleep on # 364: #2 I call it a # pallet interviewer: #1 okay {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # interviewer: you say oh we expect a big crop from that field because the soil is very 364: rich interviewer: another word for rich soil 364: fertile interviewer: okay the flat low land that you find along a stream of water what do you call that? 364: call we call it the bottom interviewer: okay uh what do you call a low lying grassland? or a field that might be good for nothing other than raising grass clover or alfalfa? 364: well I wouldn't know whether to call it a meadow or a or interviewer: that's fine okay 364: #1 wh- # interviewer: #2 what # 364: meadow I would call it interviewer: okay how about some land that has water standing in it for a long part of time what would you call that w- land that had water standing in it 364: oh that wouldn't be a pond would it? interviewer: no it would be uh mostly land but just co- just slightly covered with water that stood there and got sort of rank 364: we we call it uh low land uh interviewer: okay and this I know that down in like Louisiana they call it a swamp do you call it that here? 364: well yes we we- we- we- I have I have known of land we'd call swampy interviewer: okay 364: swampy lands interviewer: does it have does a swamp a swamp have trees in it sometimes 364: sometimes interviewer: okay 364: {NW} interviewer: uh there's a place along the sea that's salt hay grows do you know what that's called? 364: where what grows? interviewer: where salt hay grows along the sea something like a swamp do you know the word marsh? 364: I know the word marsh but I didn't know it other th- that uh #1 definition # interviewer: #2 well do you # call something else around here a marsh? do you think it just applies to the sea along the sea? 364: no sometime I have seen marshy we call it marshy land soft wet land we call it marsh marshy interviewer: mm-kay 364: oh that ground is marshy its interviewer: {NW} uh what different kinds of soil do you have in the field if it was part sand and part clay what would you call it? 364: part sand and part clay uh {NS} we have the term we use black land clay land and uh sandy land interviewer: alright 364: w- interviewer: how about loam 364: loam? interviewer: loam do you ever use that term loam L-O-A-M ? {NS} 364: I know the word but I don't know I wouldn't know how to know reference to anything about loam I- I know the word but interviewer: #1 only time I know that word is like you can buy loam or peat moss or something you know like in a garden store for plants but I don't know if # 364: #2 oh uh yes yes # I don't I don't know where where I I have no memory of uh contacting anything that I- would be called loam interviewer: okay {NS} #1 uh suppose you had some land that was a little bit swampy and you wanted to put it to cultivation what would you do l- to the land to {X} # 364: #2 ditch it # interviewer: okay uh would you call what would you call the ditch that you dug anything besides a ditch? 364: mm drain interviewer: alright uh {NS} a canal do you call them a canal around here? 364: huh? interviewer: would you call it a canal? around here or is that a bigger ditch? 364: bigger ditch that'd be to- too big for around here interviewer: okay {NW} 364: go out in Arkansas around you'd find canals {NW} interviewer: uh what do you call a a little stream like the {D: seeder} down here 364: I call it a a- branch interviewer: alright one a little bit bigger is called what? 364: creek interviewer: alright and then still bigger? 364: uh would be a r- river interviewer: alright what about a deep narrow valley that a stream of water might cut in the woods what would you call that? or a field about ten feet deep and ten feet across a s- a deep narrow valley that would be cut in it what would you call that valley? 364: {NS} I w- I don't think I can interviewer: I know you called it this before a gully? 364: yeah #1 oh yes you {X} # interviewer: #2 {X} # 364: I was thinking about a {X} maybe carrying water interviewer: oh okay how about a ravine is that the same 364: same thing it's a r- ravine interviewer: oh a wash wouldn't be as big as a gully 364: no no wash would be e- through the field m- interviewer: a e- a very small rise in land like if I'm going down the road and just come up on a small rise 364: tha- uh we'd call it a hill interviewer: alright how about one bigger than a hill? 364: uh well it'd be a we'd call it a mountain interviewer: alright Uh what's the rocky side of a mountain that drops off sharp called? 364: bluff interviewer: okay up in the mountains where the road goes across in a low place what would you call that? like you'd be going up the mountain and the road would go across in a low place in the mountain what would you call that 364: uh Interviewer: Thought it'd be called 364: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Instead of a gravel road what kind 364: Black top Interviewer: alright now uh is that is is a black top and a paved road the same thing? 364: Same thing. Interviewer: okay um what kind of uh materials do they use to make black top out of? 364: Asphalt. Interviewer: okay um is asphalt the same thing as tar? 364: mm I wouldn't think s- yes, yes, just put it yes Interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 same thing that's what the # it's all a mixture. Interviewer: and the little, the little pebbles that are put in that black top what do you call those? 364: I call them it'd be the the gravel. Interviewer: okay uh what would you call a little road that goes off the main road? 364: Branch road. Interviewer: If you come to a man's farm and you uh come to a turn off going down to his house what do you call that? 364: um I don't know we'd use so many simple terms I wouldn't know which Interviewer: Okay what about a track you drive your cattle down when you carry them to pasture? 364: The path. {NW} Cow path. Interviewer: alright is a lane #1 the same thing? # 364: #2 lane # yeah lane or cow path Interviewer: uh something along the side of the street for people to walk on 364: s- the side walk Interviewer: alright two boys are walking across a field and one of them saw a crow in the field eating the farmer's corn he reached down and picked up what to chase the crow off? 364: Rock. Interviewer: alright, what would you say he did when he picked up the rock? 364: I'd say he threw it. Interviewer: alright, okay he'd s- he'd get back and he'd tell the farmer I picked up a rock and 364: Threw it at your {D: cobs} Interviewer: {NW} uh some little boys they say chucked? 364: Yeah chucked {D: cob.} Interviewer: Alright {NS} if someone came to visit your wife and you met the person in the yard you might say she's 364: in the house Interviewer: alright she's in the kitchen? 364: yeah, could be Interviewer: alright uh if you put uh milk in your coffee some people like it milk that way and some people like it other now how do you refe- how do you refer to the difference in #1 In that # 364: #2 I'd # call it well we call it uh black coffee. Interviewer: is that with or without? 364: Without. Interviewer: alright. 364: Without the cream. Interviewer: And the other way you just say with cream? 364: Yes. Interviewer: okay I like more cream then I do coffee 364: Well, well I like either #1 both of them # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: {X} cream in my coffee and sugar. Interviewer: I do too if someone's not going away from you, you might say he's coming straight 364: To me. Interviewer: alright, what's another word for to me? coming to me what's another word for that? coming this dir- 364: #1 towards # Interviewer: #2 direction # 364: me. Interviewer: okay later on you were telling another friend about something you say I wasn't looking for them I just sort of ran I really wasn't looking for them I just sort of ran 364: Ran into them. Interviewer: okay if a child is given the same name that his father has you say that they named the child 364: Junior. Interviewer: Alright, would you say they named him for 364: for him Interviewer: for his father? #1 or after his # 364: #2 after his # father. Interviewer: good 364: yeah {NW} Interviewer: {NW} uh the kind of animal that barks 364: Dog. Interviewer: Uh what would you say to your dog if you wanted it to attack another dog or a person? 364: I'd say sic 'em. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: If he's a little old mixed breed sort of worthless and small and noisy dog what do you call it? 364: {NW} {X} #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # uh how about a cur? 364: a what? Interviewer: Cur, C-U-R you ever heard a dog 364: Oh yes Interviewer: #1 {X} # 364: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: or a mongrel? 364: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Those words mean about the same thing? 364: Yes uh in Interviewer: just a sort of little useless dog 364: Useless dog uh-huh uh Interviewer: I mean one that doesn't do much but bark 364: uh y- you mean a kind of dog that useless or something? Interviewer: Is that the same thing as a mongrel? 364: #1 yes but a nuisance # Interviewer: #2 I don't know # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # uh if someone insisted on going inside the fence where a watch dog was kept, you might say you better watch out or you'll get 364: bit {NW} Interviewer: uh in a herd of cattle what do you call the male? 364: Bull. Interviewer: okay, what do you call them when there are women around? you still call them a bull around wo- 364: Oh yes. Interviewer: okay, what do women call him? 364: Male. Interviewer: okay 364: {NW} Interviewer: uh the kind of uh um animal that you keep for milk 364: That's the milk cow. Interviewer: okay uh in grand my grandfather's time there were kinds of animals that u- that were used to pull heavy loads besides horses what were they? 364: Oxen. Interviewer: okay, what else? 364: Steer. Interviewer: uh how about something that resembles a horse? that looked like a horse? 364: Mule. Interviewer: And two hitched together would be a what? 364: Team. Interviewer: And four harnessed together would be called 364: Spiked team. Interviewer: A what? 364: A spiked team Interviewer: A spite? 364: Spiked spiked team. Interviewer: How do you spell the first word? 364: S-P-I K-E-D. #1 spiked # Interviewer: #2 spiked team # #1 Oh, okay okay {NW} # 364: #2 spiked team {NW} # Interviewer: What's the little cow called when it's first born? 364: We call it a calf. Interviewer: What's a female calf called? 364: Calf? Interviewer: A female calf is it does it have a different name than a male calf? 364: No. #1 they're both calves # Interviewer: #2 they're both calves # alright good if you have a cow by the name of Daisy and she was expecting a calf, you might say daisy is going to 364: {X} Interviewer: Going to what? 364: {D: crushing} Interviewer: {X} 364: {X} Interviewer: okay 364: th- that's that's what we call it. Interviewer: #1 Okay {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: uh What do you call a male horse? 364: Male horse? Interviewer: Yes sir. {NS} 364: Well I {NS} be either be a horse or a stud. Interviewer: Alright, did women use that word years ago? 364: I doubt it {NW} Interviewer: Would men have said that in the presence of a woman, a stud? 364: Uh hardly. #1 you'd hardly say it # Interviewer: #2 hardly alright # what would it be called then instead of a stud? 364: {NW} he called it uh Interviewer: Is that a stallion? 364: Yes stallion. Interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 it'd be a # stallion. Interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 that uh # be the proper way #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Uh riding animals are called what? 364: Saddle horse. Interviewer: A female is called a 364: Filly uh Interviewer: alright, a female horse or male or female is still called a 364: uh colt Interviewer: okay is that that's just a young horse? 364: Yes. Interviewer: is a mare which one is that e- either either one #1 that's either one # 364: #2 yeah # A filly is a is a uh is a female filly Interviewer: okay 364: is a young ho- young horse. Interviewer: Well what do you what what's the difference in a say just a horse and a mare? 364: well uh the uh w- we'd call {NW} we'd call a young horse we we'd just ca- say he's a young horse but if it's uh a female we say a young filly. Interviewer: okay and what which ones did you call mares? 364: Mares. Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Oh that's a grown that's your grown Interviewer: Is that a female horse that's grown? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: I see 364: mm-hmm Interviewer: when she's if its a female and it's young its a filly if it's a female and it's grown mare? 364: Mare. Interviewer: Okay {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh if you didn't know how to ride a horse you'd say I have never 364: Ridden. Interviewer: Okay if you couldn't stay on you'd say I fell 364: Yes I if I couldn't stay on he threw me. Interviewer: Alright would you say I fell off or fell off of 364: I'd say I fell off that horse. Interviewer: Okay if uh if a little child went to sleep in bed and found himself on the floor in the morning he'd say I must've 364: Fell off. #1 fell out of bed # Interviewer: #2 okay {NW} # The things that you put on a horse's feet to protect them from the road? 364: Oh that's a shoe. Interviewer: okay the parts of the horse's feet that you put the shoes on to 364: Hoof. {NS} Interviewer: How about more than one foot? 364: His shod. Interviewer: Okay you call one a hoof what do you call more than one hoof? 364: His I call them his feet. Interviewer: you don't- do you call them hooves or are they still hoofs 364: They're still they're hoofs. Interviewer: Hoofs H-O-O-F #1 S okay # 364: #2 S # Hoofs. {NW} Interviewer: uh what do you call the game that you play with horse's shoes 364: Well pitching horse shoes. Interviewer: okay what is a male sheep called 364: Male sheep? Interviewer: Yes sir. don't raise many sheep around here 364: No no but I know a male sheep is a ram. Interviewer: Alright would you call that uh would use a ram in front of women several years ago would you use that term? 364: Oh yes yes that's a Interviewer: What do you call a female sheep? 364: Yew. Interviewer: Alright. What do they have on their backs that you raise them for? 364: Oh the wool. Interviewer: #1 okay {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: um the the hog male hog that you breed with the sow what do you call him? 364: Boar. Interviewer: okay Would you use that word in front of women several years ago? 364: No. Interviewer: What would you call them in front of ladies then? #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # I I don't know we we'd u- we'd we wouldn't use the word boar we uh we'd use uh s- male hog. Interviewer: Okay 364: {D: Usually} We'd say Interviewer: what would you call a male hog that you'd altered? 364: We'd call him. uh mm Interviewer: I hear this sometimes I think this is the term I hear like on the noon news they'll tell the farm news and they call them is it barrow a barrow? 364: Yeah barrow. Interviewer: Is that a male hog that's been altered? 364: Yeah a ma- uh barrow. Interviewer: okay 364: Barrow {NS} I was trying to think of the name but I cou- Interviewer: {NW} I thought that probably meant 364: yeah that's that's the barrow Interviewer: okay uh when uh talking about hogs, when one's first born what's it called 364: pig Interviewer: when it's a little older 364: shoat Interviewer: alright, how old does it have to be or how big does it have to be to call it a shoat? 364: {D: it would be from} a shoat after he gets uh uh I would say eighty to a hundred pound would be a shoat Interviewer: okay, what is an unbred female hog called? 364: Sow Interviewer: Okay uh what do hogs have on their backs? The stiff hair on their backs, what's that called? 364: The the hair? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Mm Interviewer: You just call it #1 hair? # 364: #2 Hair, yeah that's right. # Interviewer: Is it bristle? You ever call it bristle? 364: Well yeah in certain places it'd be bristle the- the on it's back to his neck would be his bristles Interviewer: Alright, that's what stands up when he gets #1 mad {NW} # 364: #2 yeah yeah # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Yeah he raise his bristles from to his tail Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Uh the big teeth that a hog has, what do you 364: Tusks. Interviewer: Uh how how about an elephant the big teeth an elephant has is that the same? Would you call that the same thing? 364: No that'd be his trunks. Interviewer: Alright now that's this but underneath his trunk he has these big teeth and you call those 364: Tusks. #1 Tusks # Interviewer: #2 Tusks too? # 364: Uh-huh Interviewer: Okay uh the thing that you put food in for a hog what do you call that? 364: Trough. #1 hog trough # Interviewer: #2 okay if you # you had three or four of them what would you say? how do you refer to the plural of three or four of trough? 364: well you just uh a- a trough could be a quantity of one or a dozen. Interviewer: Okay but if you had more than one trough #1 do you call it # 364: #2 {X} # Well I {D: still a} troughs Interviewer: troughs that's what 364: troughs. #1 uh huh # Interviewer: #2 okay # Uh do you have any names for a hogs that's grown up wild? 364: mm nothing but a wild hog. Interviewer: Alright if you had a pig and you didn't want him to grow up to be a boar what would you say you were going to do with him? 364: Castrate it. Interviewer: Alright would you use that term for a horse? 364: Yes. Interviewer: Or a calf? 364: Yes. Interviewer: How about a tom cat? 364: Same. Interviewer: #1 Same? # 364: #2 Right, # {X} Interviewer: Would that be the same term? 364: Same term. Interviewer: Okay. Uh the noise made by a calf when it's being weaned what do you say that calf began to 364: Uh we call it bawl. #1 something {NW} # Interviewer: #2 okay # Then the gentle noise that a cow makes when she's feeding? 364: Feeding? Interviewer: Yes sir what noise what do you call that little gentle noise that she makes when she's eating, feeding? 364: I wouldn't I wouldn't know Interviewer: Is, do you know the term low? Calf began to low? 364: Low? Yeah oh yes that's but that that is applied mostly to a cow. Interviewer: #1 e- I see okay # 364: #2 lowing # Interviewer: How about the gentle noise that a horse makes? 364: {D: snaw} Interviewer: {X} how about whinny 364: #1 Whinny # Interviewer: #2 Whinny # The word whinny 364: Yeah. Interviewer: W-H-I-N-N-Y would you say the horse began to whinny? 364: uh {NS} yes yeah nicker I Interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 we- we- # call it nicker. Interviewer: Okay {NW} You've got some horses mules cows and so forth and when you're getting hun- when they're getting hungry you have to go out and do what? 364: Feed them. Interviewer: And what do you call feeding them? Feed the cattle or the what? 364: The well either one feed the cows or feed the cattle or feed the horse or the horses. Interviewer: Alright if you've got both cows and horses what do you call them collectively? 364: uh Feed my cattle or feed my horse or feed- feed up Interviewer: #1 alright # 364: #2 I'd say. # {NW} Interviewer: Do you ever call, refer to them as stock? Feed the stock? #1 If you've got both cows and horses? # 364: #2 yeah # Feed my feed my horse my stock. Interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 yeah # Interviewer: If you're going to feed hens turkeys geese and so forth do you have any one name for all of them? I'm gonna go out and feed the Would you refer to them individually as as chickens and? 364: I, I guess uh chickens and got to feed my my flock Interviewer: Okay. A hen on a nest of eggs is called what? 364: Sitting. Interviewer: Mm-kay the place where a chicken lives? 364: Uh hen house. Interviewer: Okay. If it's just a little roofed shelter built out in the open for the little chickens to run in out of the rain? 364: Roost uh yeah, chicken roost. Interviewer: How about uh, is there a difference between that and a chicken coop? Chicken coop? What do you, how do you, which do you call that? 364: Confine the chickens in the coop. Interviewer: Okay {NS} Uh When you were a little boy and you and they uh they had a chicken for dinner what piece did you used to fuss over? 364: {NW} We used to fuss over the the the gizzard. Interviewer: The gizzard that's not what I used to fuss over. {NW} The piece I always wanted the piece you always wanted the most Auxiliary: Drum stick {NS} 364: She answered the drum stick but I never did care Interviewer: I didn't either I wanted that piece that we used to break it apart and say we wish on it for luck now what do you call that? 364: We call that the the the wish bone. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} But I Interviewer: You ever, did you use to call it the pulley bone? 364: Pulley bone. Interviewer: Yeah. 364: {X} Interviewer: What do you call the inside parts of a chicken that you eat, the liver the heart and the gizzard? Collectively. {NS} The inside edibles what would you call I don't know this term myself but I thought you might have used it. 364: No I wouldn't. Interviewer: It uh do you know the term harslet? H-A-R-S-L-E-T? 364: Haslets, we used #1 to call them haslets. # Interviewer: #2 Ah okay. # 364: My but I thought that it {D: Well any would apply to} chicken but I I know it in a term used for for hogs I after we killed hogs. Interviewer: But you didn't use it for chicken. 364: No. Interviewer: Okay. 364: I I have never I don't remember using it for chickens. Interviewer: How about the part that you sometimes eat and sometimes stuff sausage in? The part that sometimes out of a hog for instance you cut it up and eat it makes like uh {C: NS} and then sometimes you use it like a tube to stuff sausages in. What's that called? {C: NS} {NS} 364: Uh {D: seems like that} {NS} Interviewer: Is that chitterlings? Auxiliary: Chitterlings {NS} 364: Now say it again. Interviewer: Alright it's a part of of inside part of a say of a hog and sometimes you cut it up to eat but other times you leave it whole and you stuff sausage in it. 364: Oh yes that should be the chitterlings. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 364: #2 {NW} # I didn't get the Interviewer: {NW} 364: didn't get the question right. {NW} Interviewer: Uh lets see if you want to go out to call the cows and you want them to come in, what do you call to them? 364: s- I'd say sook. #1 sook # Interviewer: #2 oh okay # Uh if you want them to stand still while you're milking. 364: Saw. Saw. #1 saw {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} How about calling a calf? 364: Calf? Interviewer: A calf. 364: calf? Interviewer: A calf. 364: Sook calf sook calf. Interviewer: Alright what do you say to a mule or a horse to make it go left? 364: Go to the left, haw. Interviewer: And to go right? 364: Gee. Interviewer: Okay. What do you call the horses when you want to get them away from the pasture? {NS} 364: {D: cuf cuf} {NS} Interviewer: Uh what do you say to a horse when you want him to to urge him on? 364: Get up. Interviewer: Is that when he's already moving or when he's standing 364: #1 {D: still} # Interviewer: #2 still? # 364: Still. Interviewer: Is there any difference in what you say to him? 364: Yes it'd be a difference in uh {X} And now if he's standing still, you say get up. And if he's uh already moving you wouldn't say get up you'd uh uh Interviewer: You just wouldn't you wouldn't say that to him if he's already moving #1 just when he's standing still. # 364: #2 No no. # He's already he's already moving. Interviewer: #1 don't want to confuse him do you? {NW} # 364: #2 no {NW} # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: Uh what do you say to stop him? 364: To what? Interviewer: #1 To stop the horse. # 364: #2 Whoa. # Interviewer: What do you say when you want to back him into a buggy? 364: Back up back back. Interviewer: How do you call hogs to feed them? 364: Uh {NW} Now that hog calling is Interviewer: {NW} 364: So many different ways of calling I, I call mine with beating on the can or something {C: Audio becomes quiet} with a {NW} Interviewer: Okay we use that to {X} You don't use the same words for them that you use to call the cows up? 364: No, no You use sook, sook, sook when calling cows. But for the hogs you use {NW} Interviewer: They don't speak the same language then {NW} 364: they {NW} they usually know the difference #1 too, they're easily # Interviewer: #2 uh you know isn't that strange. # 364: easily trained. Interviewer: Yeah. 364: I'll get out there and just knock on a piece of tin and my hogs come from everywhere. Interviewer: {NW} 364: They know feeding time. {NW} Interviewer: Uh I, we said a while ago there're not many sheep raised around here but do you know what you'd say to a sheep to call it from a pasture? 364: No I I've heard them called but it, it's been so long I forgot what how do they what, what d- {X} {C: name} What do you say when you call sheep? Auxiliary: {X} 364: They, she had came off a farm. Her grandfather used to raise a lot of sheep. Interviewer: I d- I don't know any #1 terms for that # 364: #2 I I don't # I don't either. Interviewer: Okay Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: How about when you're calling your chickens to feed them? How do you call them? 364: Just call them chicken chick chick chick. Interviewer: Okay uh if you want to get the horses ready to go somewhere you say I got to you're trying to get your horses ready to go somewhere, what do you say you have to do to them? 364: Catch them. Interviewer: #1 Alright now if you catch them what do you do to them? # 364: #2 Catch them. # Saddle them or #1 or harness them harness them # Interviewer: #2 alright uh okay # uh what when you're driving a a horse what do you hold in your hand? 364: A buggy whip a whip. Interviewer: Alright but not the 364: #1 not the reins. # Interviewer: #2 reins. # 364: #1 Reins. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Is that what you guide a horse with? 364: Sure. Interviewer: Okay what do you put your feet into when you're riding horseback? 364: Stirrups. Interviewer: Uh if you have two horses the horse on the left is called 364: on the left the lead. The lead horse. Interviewer: Alright. uh If something is not right near at hand you'd say it's just a little 364: Off. Interviewer: Okay do you say it's a little ways off it's a little piece off or 364: Well I would say a little ways, a little piece off. Interviewer: Okay if you've been traveling and not finished your journey you might say that I've got a some way to go before dark how would you express that? You've been traveling and you're not quite there you'd say man before dark I've gotta 364: Lay over uh find a place to s- Interviewer: Okay would you say a long ways to go or a fur piece? 364: I'd say a long ways to go Interviewer: Alright and you don't use the term a fur piece? 364: No. Interviewer: Okay mm If something is very common and you don't have to look for it in a special place you can say that you can find that just about 364: Anywhere. Interviewer: If you slipped on the ice and fell this way you'd say you fell 364: Backwards. Interviewer: And he fell this 364: Sideways. Interviewer: #1 okay {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Uh if if I asked you did you catch any fish you'd say no 364: They wasn't biting. Interviewer: Alright would you say I didn't catch any or I didn't catch one or 364: None. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Not a one. 364: Not a one. Interviewer: Have you every heard anybody use the word nary? Didn't catch nary a one. 364: I've heard of it but I I never {NW} I never use nary. Interviewer: Well does it mean it means none? #1 Very good, okay. # 364: #2 None, none. # It means that's an old dialect {X} Interviewer: Mm {X} a school boy might say of a scolding teacher why's she blaming me I 364: I ain't done nothing. Interviewer: {NW} That's what they say all the time too. {NW} 364: I ain't done nothing. {NW} And uh by the way she's gonna whip him says don't whip me I ain't done nothing {NW} Interviewer: Someone say someone apologizes for breaking your your yard rake you'd say that's alright, I didn't like it. 364: Didn't like. Interviewer: I didn't like that old rake 364: Wasn't no good. Interviewer: Alright would you say anyhow or no way or at all? 364: Not at all #1 I would say. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # A crying child might say he was eating candy and he didn't give me 364: None. {NW} Interviewer: {NW] You say now that boy is really spoiled up, when he he's really spoiled, when he grows up, he's liable to have his trouble How would you talk about a boy that you thought might be going to get into trouble? When he grow up? 364: Oh he's Interviewer: {X} What I want is the word for probably what would you say for probably? 364: Probably. Interviewer: He's probably gonna have trouble or you might you probably say probably but have you heard apt as not? Apt is not to have trouble. 364: More {X} Interviewer: Yeah alright does that mean probably? 364: Probably Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 Same thing. # Interviewer: {NW} Uh if you have a a good yield you'd say we raised a big {NS} 364: Uh quantity. Interviewer: Alright uh what are the trees you call that you cut by a plow {C: audio quiet until 23:30} 364: They're {X} Interviewer: Yes sir. Uh if you got rid of all the brush and trees on the land what would you say you did? 364: Cleared it out. Interviewer: Alright the second cutting of clover or grass what do you call the old dry dead la- grass that's left over on the ground in the spring? 364: Well now that would be the mulch a uh I I'm satisfied that's would be the term we'd use it's Interviewer: Alright what would you say the wheat's tied up into? If you tie it up. 364: Tie in uh {NS} well its a just tied tied we called it bundles. Interviewer: Alright is that the same as a {D: sheaf}? 364: Sheaf. {C: mimicking interviewer's pronunciation} Interviewer: Sheaf is that the way you say it? 364: Well we call it yeah, sheaves we call it sheaves. Interviewer: Alright {NW} {X} I know that term just in you know like in hymns bringing in the sheaves. #1 Is that what it is? {NW} # 364: #2 yeah yeah yeah sure sheaves yeah that's {NW} # Interviewer: Uh when you tie, tie your bundles up what do you call that pile? Bundles of wheat that you pile up. 364: Shuck. Interviewer: Alright you say we raised forty something of wheat to an acre what are you talking about? 364: {X} Interviewer: You talking about a quantity of wheat maybe you say I raised so many something 364: #1 Bushels # Interviewer: #2 to an acre # 364: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: bushels. Interviewer: What do you do with oats to separate the grain from the rest of it? 364: Thrash it. Interviewer: Alright. Uh if you and another man have got to do a job when you told him about it you'd say you and 364: I Interviewer: Alright. uh if you're not speaking to him just talking about him you'd say the job is for 364: It's no I would say I if I'm talking to him? Interviewer: No so you're not talking to him you're talking to somebody else about him who's going to help you over here. 364: Mm Interviewer: You'd say the job is for would you say both of us all of us. 364: I'd say for us both {X} Interviewer: Have you ever heard anybody say for all two of us? 364: I have heard it yeah. Interviewer: We don't use it do we 364: No. We don't use it like that {C: noise} {NS} I I'd say both of us. {C: noise} Interviewer: If some friends of yours and you are coming over to see me you'd say {NS} 364: Visit. Interviewer: Alright what would you say, he and I? Him and me? How would you tell me that you and somebody else were gonna come see me? 364: Oh that's getting too much into my {NS} language {NW} Interviewer: {NS} How wou- 364: He, he and I Interviewer: Alright. 364: I would say. Interviewer: Okay good. Uh if you knock at the door and they say who's there you'd say it's 364: it's I. Interviewer: Alright. If you're sitting there expecting some man Interviewer: He's been dead. My granddaddy's long been dead about two years. #1 Yeah two or three years. # 364: #2 Three, about three years. # Yeah I know when he died. I was there just before he died. {X} this time I'm speaking about him. Interviewer: Well he was uh he loved to watch they my granddaddy grandmother and grand daddy loved to watch that story, it come ons at dinner as the world turns, 364: Yes. Interviewer: and he they were watching that one day and he just went to sleep during the #1 story. # 364: #2 Oh I see # Ah and his father was the man {D: Big Malone} {C: name} Interviewer: That's right. 364: Oh I think I remember Interviewer: You know all of the Malones, don't you? {NW} And then my grandmother Malone, the one you're talking about, she was a {D: Deviny}. 364: the who? Interviewer: {D: Deviny} you know all, the {D: Devinys}? 364: Yeah yeah she was Interviewer: She was a {D: Deviny}. Oh I got lot's of kinfolks around here. 364: #1 Oh yeah # Interviewer: #2 I probably # should not ever run for political office cause I my relatives would not vote for me then I surely wouldn't get elected would I? 364: Oh I wouldn't say that. Interviewer: {NW} 364: I wouldn't say that. Interviewer: No I was just teasing. 364: #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 they would # 364: Uh uh your husband is a who? Interviewer: My husband is from Texas he wor- he's the guidance counselor at the high school. He's a Foster. {C: name} 364: #1 Foster # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 364: Uh-huh Interviewer: but he doesn't have any people here. 364: No {NS} I was wondering if he was related to any of the Fosters that I know around {B} here. Interviewer: No, he's not related to anybody here. They're the Fosters that have money, we're the poor ones. 364: oh {NW} Interviewer: We used to get Mr Joe Foster's mail and his phone calls he lived up the street from us. 364: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 But we live # on the same street as him. But uh I always tell people, no he was the Mr Foster that had money we were the ones that were poor. 364: Poor. {NW} You're like I like I am about uh {D: problem} in town and a- which way you get to your house? I tell them which way to turn off I say you're now when you hit that road there ain't nothing on it but poor folk. {NW} I live in the last house {NW} Everyone gets poorer and poorer and I'm in the last house. {NW} Interviewer: Well I tried my best to come through from {X} from used to be {D: Griffen's} store to here that road doesn't come through here. 364: #1 No no it don't come through # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 364: come through don't come all the way through. Interviewer: I wonder why? 364: Did #1 I don't know wh- I don't # Interviewer: #2 {X} # in there or 364: oh no dear Griffin tried his best to get that he had it planned once and then he had it okay-ed the route through there and come around intersect this. and uh there was one {D: land} one land owner wouldn't okay it he wouldn't uh agree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 364: And of course he died then. couldn't get through but after that, after this man he he uh agreed that he wished he had let it come through. I tried to show him what the advantage Interviewer: Yeah. 364: cause Interviewer: It's a long ways out here from up at before you turn off at Jackson isn't it. 364: Yeah, yeah, uh, well it's it's three miles. {NW} Three miles when you turn off I just I this morning I was riding through uh you know where Mr. {D: Brooden's} place is? Old {D: Brooden's} place? Interviewer: No sir I don't know much on this road at all. 364: Uh well it's ain't on this road you turn and #1 go # Interviewer: #2 it's # that road to the left as I came down through here before you get to the bridge and you {X} off to the left 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah. 364: Yeah. {NS} that road now it's a black top. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 364: But uh going on around it don't go but a little piece the black top then you hit gravel for half a mile when they black topped around there this man stopped him he wouldn't agree to {D: follow} to straighten the road. Just little old {X} and twisted they wanted to put a bridge there and straighten it and intersect the other road a half, just a half a mile. He wouldn't agree to it at all and that's why the black top black top stops now. Later on he tried to get them to uh come back and straighten it out black top is new course they wouldn't do it and still it's still gravel. Interviewer: And that little old bridge up by Mr Griffen's that's just gonna have to be fixed one of these days isn't it? 364: It should've a- already been Interviewer: I don't see how a school bus and trucks and things get over that, that was 364: It it's uh when the man surveyed this uh bridge here this new bridge you didn't see the little old bridge there. Interviewer: No. 364: It's uh it's still there the uh steel but it's way off down there to one side. And he asked me concerning that bridge how high I had how long I'd been living around here and what was the highest mark I had seen the water in that. And then when I showed him and we got to talking about it he said he wanted to s- d- going to build a bridge high enough to take care of all the water that come through there. And he did. It never overflowed but the other little old bridge down there {NS} there's a many time you couldn't get through there. Interviewer: I bet. 364: Just couldn't cross. I've seen the up over the bridge {NS} and I told him about that and he uh {NS} he he spoke about this bridge down there by Mr Griffin's he said that bridge is dangerous it, it's just a one way bridge and it ought to be a double lane, isn't it? He said now it couldn't be he said I could if I had the okay I could plan for it to be uh widened out without tearing it down. So it hadn't, they won't okay it Interviewer: Comes your daughter she looks like she's had a hard day at school today too. 364: #1 oh yeah # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: We if you're teaching school all of them's hard. Interviewer: That's right, I hear- 364: Some's worse than others. Interviewer: Mr Currington told me she's one of the best teachers he has. {NW} #1 {X} # 364: #2 Mr Currington # Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Oh I wouldn't of thought that. Interviewer: He surely did. I told him last Thursday I was in a meeting up in his office and I told him I had to leave early cause I was coming out here and he said what'd you go out there for? #1 So he # 364: #2 Yeah {NW} # Interviewer: He said uh well you said that Ms. Tiggs is one of the finest teachers I've got. I'll pass that on to you, you {NW} 364: Well I {NW} I wouldn't of thought he'd of said it, but Auxiliary: He told you didn't he? 364: Huh? Auxiliary: He told you that didn't he? Interviewer: #1 Thomas did # 364: #2 well you could # How come you come in the back? Interviewer: Yeah you come slipping in the back? Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: Yeah 364: We, we aren't allowed to come in the front when we got when we got company. Interviewer: {NW} You better come on back in here. {NW} Auxiliary: That's the reason I 364: When we Interviewer: We're having a good time I sound like I'm in a well almost Auxiliary: Oh Interviewer: {NW} 364: Yeah that's uh that's my {X} I don't know what I'd do if that girl is leave me. Interviewer: Well. 364: Uh she she had a rumor out oh this year you {X} yeah this year she's gonna marry. and I told several the s- I {D: keep staring at her} {NW} she said {NW} I was telling {D: Dawn} {NS} she was very I said no if she go I'll go. I have to follow. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Nanny says I may go where you can't go I said I'll be at the bar {D: speaking in} {NW} Interviewer: She can't leave you huh? 364: No goodness. {D: She's estate} to me. Interviewer: Good let's see, where'd we get to? We got to uh We're gonna compare how tall you are you'd say he's not as tall as 364: As I. Interviewer: Alright or comparing how tall you are again you'd say I'm not as 364: I'm not as tall as he. Interviewer: Alright comparing how well you can do something you'd say he can do it better than 364: I {NS} Interviewer: {X} 364: We we usually said better than me. Interviewer: That's right. 364: Better than me {NW} Interviewer: Um if a man had been running for two miles and then had to stop you'd say two miles is 364: Too far to run I would say. Interviewer: Alright would you say as far as he could go or the farthest? 364: The farthest. Interviewer: #1 Farthest is that what you'd say? Okay. # 364: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: If something belongs to me you'd say it's 364: It to you? Interviewer: Yes sir to me. 364: It belongs to I'd say her. Interviewer: Alright would you say it's yours? 364: Yes. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 It's # yours Interviewer: Uh if you say if it belongs to both of us you'd say it's 364: Ours. Interviewer: Alright and if it belongs to them you'd say it's 364: it belongs to I'd say it belongs to them. Interviewer: Alright if it belongs to him you'd say it's 364: its its his. Interviewer: Alright and to her it's 364: Hers. Interviewer: Alright good. Uh people have co- have been to visit you and they're about to leave you'd say to them 364: Come again. Interviewer: Alright. uh If somebody's been to a party and started to leave and you were asking about their coat you'd say where are you gone get their coats for them wi- the- before they leave you'd say where are 364: Where are uh More than one? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Where are they? Interviewer: Alright I tell what they say we do here they say that we that when we say y'all 364: You all. Interviewer: Are we talking about one person or lots of people? 364: Lots of people. Interviewer: Lots of people, thats what I think too, we talking about a group #1 aren't we? # 364: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: Do you uh do you think anybody ever used y'all meaning just one person? 364: I- I I've heard it used that way but it {NW} not, not often. Interviewer: Not, well they you know a lot of times they up Northerners say we s- we mean we say y'all when we mean when we just talking about one person I don't believe we do that. #1 Have you ever # 364: #2 No. # Interviewer: #1 we mean a group # 364: #2 No. # We don't do that. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: I've heard it used like that though. Interviewer: Uh if you Your children came in they'd been at a party you were asking about who was there you might say What would you how would you ask them about who did they see there? 364: Mm I'd say was he there or was she there. Interviewer: But have you ever hear the term who all was there? 364: Yeah oh yes. Interviewer: You say who all? 364: Who all was there. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 okay {NW} # 364: I've heard that. Interviewer: Alright and the same kind of word when you're asking about something somebody a speaker has said you might say uh Would you say what all did he say? Have you ever her- do you use the term what all as well as who all? 364: Uh {NS} I wouldn't but I've heard it used. Interviewer: Okay. 364: What all did he say? Interviewer: yeah I've heard that used. 364: Who all was #1 there # Interviewer: #2 yeah {NW} # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 I have # 364: I've heard it used like that but {NS} Interviewer: Uh if you say if no one else will look out for them you'd say they've got to look out for 364: Themselves. Interviewer: If no one else will do it for him you'd say he'd better do it 364: Himself. Interviewer: Uh we- uh what is made of flour baked in loaves? 364: uh Interviewer: Made of flour and baked in a loaf. 364: We call it We call it loaf bread or light bread Interviewer: Alright when it's made to rise with yeast, what do you call it? If you use yeast in it do you call it a different term a different kind of bread? 364: No. Interviewer: Okay. 364: I wouldn't Interviewer: uh Other kinds of bread that your wife makes out of flour 364: Biscuit. Interviewer: Alright {NS} Uh what's baked in a large round cake made out of corn meal? 364: Corn bread. Interviewer: okay now you mentioned corn bread you mean by corn bread let's see Do you mean do you have more than one kind of corn bread? 364: Oh yes yeah. Interviewer: Tell me about the kinds of corn bread. 364: You have water bread. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Plain, plain bread, and you have milk bread. Interviewer: Do you bake at all? 364: Egg bread we would call it. Interviewer: Okay do you bake all of them in a round pan? 364: Yes we use the uh black pan or a round. Interviewer: Alright if you bake them in little pan little bitty things like this 364: We call them pone. Interviewer: Alright do you know the term corndodger? a corndodger 364: {NW} I've heard it but I don't know how to describe it Interviewer: Okay {NS} 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Uh # {NS} It says do you ever remember any kind of corn bread that people talk about making before the fire on the board or something like that? 364: Oh uh yeah ash cakes. Interviewer: Okay. 364: My mother used to make them {NW} Interviewer: Uh it says what kind's about an inch thick very large and round that you cook in a skillet we said that was just called corn pone, right? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Then there's the kind that's small and it's sort of shaped like this and sometimes you put onion and green pepper in it what do you call that? You eat it with fish. 364: I don't know. Interviewer: You ever make hush, ever make 364: #1 hush puppies # Interviewer: #2 hush puppies # #1 yeah # 364: #2 I've heard of # them I don't know anything #1 about them I just # Interviewer: #2 Alright I think # 364: get some hush puppies Interviewer: I think that's what they're talking 364: #1 well I think so # Interviewer: #2 about here # 364: Must be hush puppies. Interviewer: Alright it says that there's something else that you sometimes have that you boil in cheese cloth with either beans or greens or something with chicken and you make it out of corn meal. What do you call that? 364: Dumplings. Interviewer: Alright do you make I don't make dumplings out of corn meal I make them out of flour. 364: Well I know but uh I use some corn meal dumplings once that sure was good Mister {X} used to live down here by Belle Greene I went down there once and uh right at dinner time he insisted that I would eated my dinner and I did and he had corn bread dumplings I never had any #1 before but # Interviewer: #2 I do # 364: good grief goodness it was good. Interviewer: What were they cooked in? 364: They was cooked in uh I don't know whether it was collard greens or turnip greens but it was it was cooked with them. And you talking about something good. Interviewer: Thats what you call potlicker? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: That you cook them in? 364: Yeah {NW} potlicker. Interviewer: {NW} 364: I declare that was perhaps told my mother about it she said oh I'll make you some sometime I don't remember her ever making them corn bread dumplings Interviewer: {X} beans or uh It's the kind of corn meal that you cook in a deep pan it comes out soft and you dish it out like you would mashed potatoes. What kind of bread is that do you know that kind of bread? 364: Yeah I know it {NS} we we used {NW} we used to call it cush. Interviewer: Cush. 364: Cush. {NW} Interviewer: I don't know that either now is that what we call spoon bread? Is that spoon bread? 364: Stone? Interviewer: Spoon spoon bread is that what that is? 364: No I think uh spoon bread now I've heard of it but you make it up with a spoon #1 Mix it with a # Interviewer: #2 oh yeah yeah. # 364: spoon. Interviewer: Okay. 364: But uh the old cush that I'm talking about it had a, it has another name. Interviewer: Is that grits? 364: No that's not grits. Interviewer: Not made out of the same kind of grain is it? Grits aren't meal are they? 364: No no grits are grits is a coarse meal real coarse maybe corn or #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 okay # 364: but uh this uh what we used to call cush now that's an old uh old uh we called it {D: rig} time talk {NW} antebellum #1 days # Interviewer: #2 yeah? # 364: Uh {NS} slaves used to make cush. Interviewer: Well I never heard of cush. 364: Cush. Interviewer: It's sort of like a mush? 364: Mush and cush is the same Interviewer: #1 I see. # 364: #2 thing, mush and # cush. And uh now you talking about something good it's good when when the {X} i- if you could find some of these old {C: pronunciation} people that could make it it certainly is #1 good. # Interviewer: #2 Well # I like cornmeal. 364: Put uh a little pepper in it black pepper and I have eat it with chipped up red pepper green pepper and uh mix it with an onions in it and stock from some a ham or meat or something. Lord you're talking about good Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: I would love to know how to make it I love to cook. 364: Well you do. Interviewer: Mm I sure do. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Tell by looking at me can't you? 364: #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} 364: y- I no I can tell by looking at you you like to eat. Interviewer: That's right {NW} Well I like to cook too. {NW} Uh this says there are two kinds of bread the homemade bread and the kind that you buy at the store what do you call it? 364: Now would that be cornbread? Interviewer: No well the kind of bread in a loaf maybe that you'd buy at the store. You just call it loaf bread? 364: Yeah that's all. Interviewer: Uh there's a little thing that's like shaped like this and it's fried in deep fat and has a hole in the middle what do you call that? Kind of like a cookie. but it's round with a hole in it and you fry it in deep fat. Auxiliary: Donut. {NW} 364: Yeah donuts I couldn't call the name I know what's it {D: stuff} Interviewer: #1 Alright # 364: #2 yeah donuts # Interviewer: Do you know another name for a donut? {NS} 364: No I don't think so. Interviewer: Uh this I've heard them called crullers but not around here I don't believe. C-R-U-L-L-E-R cruller? 364: I've heard the name but I didn't know Interviewer: I don't believe we ca- we just call them donuts don't we uh sometimes you make up a batter and you fry fry three or four of these at a time and you eat them with syrup and butter. What do you call these? 364: Batter cake. Interviewer: Alright is that the same thing as a pancake? 364: Pancake? Interviewer: Okay do you always make them out of wheat flour? Auxiliary: Yes. 364: Wheat flour. Interviewer: #1 Yes sir. okay # 364: #2 yes # 364: But now your daughter {X} had to. We old folks used to make corn bread batter cakes. Just a little flour in to make them stick together good. Sure is it alright. Interviewer: I bet they're good with syrup and butter. 364: Huh? Interviewer: #1 I bet they are good with syrup and butter # 364: #2 They are good. # Yes ma'am. Auxiliary: They are. Interviewer: Uh let's see you flour in what kind of quantity? 364: We buy it in uh Auxiliary: Twenty-five pounds. 364: Fifty-pound sacks. Interviewer: Alright. I don't buy that much I buy five pounds. 364: Well. Interviewer: {NW} 364: I its uh we we cut down on it fifty-pound sacks we usually used to buy fifty-pound be we cut down on it Interviewer: Uh what do you use to make the bread thats not baking powder or soda that makes it rise? Not baking powder or soda what else would you use? Comes in a little pack and it's dry and powdery. 364: Would it be uh. I don't know unless it'd be yeast. Interviewer: Alright that's what it is. Uh what the inside of an egg called? 364: Yolk. Interviewer: Uh and what color is the yolk? 364: It's uh Auxiliary: Yellow. 364: y- y- uh yellow. Interviewer: Alright what do you call the other part of the egg? 364: White. Interviewer: Alright if you cook eggs in hot water what do you call them? Auxiliary: Boiled. 364: I just call them boiled Interviewer: Alright 364: boiled eggs. Interviewer: And that's cooking them in the shell in hot water if you take them out of the shell and drop them in hot water what are they? 364: Oh I don't know. Auxiliary: Poached. 364: What'd she Interviewer: Poached poached egg. 364: I don't know nothing about Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: You don't do the cooking 364: #1 No # Interviewer: #2 do you? # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 # 364: You done got to the woman's part {X} Interviewer: What do you call the salt or sugar cured meat that you boil with greens? 364: Bacon. Interviewer: Uh what if it has no lean to it what do you call it? 364: uh we we use fat back. Interviewer: #1 Alright # 364: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Is that the same thing as salt pork? 364: Yeah same thing. Interviewer: Okay but if it had a good bit of lean and you called it bacon? Is that the difference between bacon and fat back? 364: Yes. Interviewer: The lean is okay. 364: Speaking of uh of salt pork I never heard that until I went north. Interviewer: Is that right? 364: I never did hear. Interviewer: #1 We don't call # 364: #2 And # they didn't know what I meant when I asked for for some uh streaked #1 meat. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 364: Uh they didn't know what the {X} and when I described it to the them oh you want some salt pork. Interviewer: And that's what we call streaked lean? 364: Yeah. #1 streaked lean {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: {NW} Interviewer: When you're uh butchering a hog and you cut the side of a hog wh- what did you call it? 364: Middling. Interviewer: Okay the kind of meat that you buy sliced thin to eat with eggs. 364: That's uh bacon. Interviewer: And what's the outside of the bacon called? The hard piece. 364: The uh it's we call it skin but that's uh sometimes its called the rind. Interviewer: Alright. Uh the kind of meat that you grind up uh from 364: Sausage. Interviewer: Alright and who kills and sells the meet? 364: Butcher. Interviewer: Alright if the meats been kept too long what do you say the meat has done? 364: Spoiled. Interviewer: After you butcher a hog what do you make with the meat from it's head? 364: Hog head cheese {NW} that's {D: sows} Interviewer: #1 okay {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What do you call the dish that you prepare by cooking and grinding up hog liver? Hog liver you grind it up and cook it. Do you know what you call that when you cook it? 364: Hog liver? Interviewer: Mm-hmm I've never heard of it but 364: um no I Interviewer: They call it liver pudding do you ever heard of liver pudding? 364: Yeah now that's that's a term that that the only place I've ever heard it was in the north. Interviewer: And you don't think 364: Lady got a room with us she and she described it and said she's gonna make us liver pudding. Interviewer: I see. 364: No blood pudding. Interviewer: Well now that's mm-hmm did you ever make anything out of hog blood and that's called blood pudding. 364: Blood pudding now that's what she {NW} Interviewer: You don't think that's a southern term then? 364: I don't think it is. Interviewer: Mm-kay. uh if you ever took the juice of the head cheese or the liver sausage and stir it up with corn meal and cook it and then after it gets cold you slice that up and fry it, do you know what you call that? It's a kind of meat you make well I guess sort of like we call {D: souse} but then when you cut it up and you fry it do you know what you call that? 364: No I wouldn't. Interviewer: Do you know the term scrapple? #1 scrapple I don't either I don't # 364: #2 No. # No. Interviewer: That must not be southern either. 364: No. Interviewer: Uh if you kept you butter too long and it didn't taste good, what would you call the taste? 364: Rank. Interviewer: Okay. A thick sour milk that you keep on hand what's that called? 364: Sour milk. Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: We just call it clabber. Interviewer: Okay. What kind of cheese do you make from it? 364: Mm I don't know about Interviewer: Is that what isn't that what cottage cheese is is just 364: #1 I just wouldn't know is # Interviewer: #2 is just clabbered milk? # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # You know you buy it now at the in the dairy counter at the grocery and it's just little white curds Auxiliary: {X} 364: And that's cottage cheese. Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Well I didn't Interviewer: #1 And I wondered that # 364: #2 know how it's made # Interviewer: Uh what do you do with the milk the first thing after milking? 364: Strain it. Interviewer: Alright. Uh what kind of dessert is it that your wife bakes in a deep dish made out of apples with a crust on top? 364: Uh apple pie. Interviewer: Mm-kay if it's uh baked in uh uh in layers what would you call that? a kind of apple pie not one that you just slice like a regular you know like a regular pie but a one in a big dish maybe. 364: I'd call now you mean the half moon pies? Interviewer: No I don't know that I'm tal- what I'm talking about is a cobbler I guess {NS} Cobbler pie that you make in layers? He doesn't know a thing about cooking. 364: No. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {X} Interviewer: {NW} 364: She's showing me up here Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: That's cobbler see she knows. 364: Cobbler but uh now the kind you bake flat Interviewer: #1 talking about fried pie # 364: #2 {NS} # #1 fried # Interviewer: #2 is that # That's what you start called a half moon pie a fry- yeah that's a fried 364: Yeah a half moon. that's #1 half # Auxiliary: #2 I love those # 364: that {NW} Interviewer: You know what he said about me I told him I loved to cook a while ago and he said he could tell by looking at me that I loved to eat. {NW} Auxiliary: That wasn't exactly a complement. Interviewer: {X} {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: You if somebody has a good appetite you say he sure likes to put away his 364: If he has a good appetite Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: and uh Interviewer: You'd say he sure likes to put away his 364: Food. Interviewer: Food alright do you- you you call food vittles 364: Vittles? Interviewer: #1 you ever heard # 364: #2 {X} # Yeah that's a thats an old term vittles. Interviewer: Okay what do you call the sweet liquid that you pour over pudding? 364: Sauce. Interviewer: Okay uh if you take a food between regular meals, what do you call it eating between regular meals? 364: Well we usually call it uh uh {NS} A mid day m d day snack. Interviewer: #1 okay # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NS} Uh you say uh I eat breakfast at seven oh clock yesterday at that time I had already. 364: Eaten. Interviewer: And last week I 364: Ate. Interviewer: okay uh you say what do people drink for breakfast? Most people drink for breakfast 364: Coffee. Interviewer: And how do you make coffee? 364: put- uh they're percolated now but I'm all but all but me I still boil mine. Interviewer: Alright how do you boil coffee? 364: uh Put the {X} some water and let it uh be- just begin to boil and put the add the coffee to it. Interviewer: Just pour the grounds right in the 364: #1 right in the right in the pot with it # Interviewer: #2 in the water # Then what happens when you want to drink it? 364: Oh just uh {NW} Interviewer: Don't you 364: Just wait until it brews right good when it gets ready then you've got some good coffee. Interviewer: You don't have a mouthful of grounds? You don't get a mouth full of coffee grounds? 364: {X} {C: Audio is sped up and distorted until 58:35} {X} My mother used to {X} {c: Distorted} dipper Interviewer: Alright you say the glass fell off the sink and 364: Broke. Interviewer: You might say I didn't break it but someone has 364: Someone has broken. Interviewer: Alright uh now this asks about a glass and other like other shapes of glasses a tumbler and a goblet now do you know can you do you know those terms? 364: A a tumbler has a has a st- leg to it. Interviewer: Alright a handle? 364: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay. 364: No no not a handle. Interviewer: Oh a stand. #1 sorry # 364: #2 yeah # Interviewer: Yeah I see. 364: that's that's a that's Interviewer: #1 thats a tumbler # 364: #2 a tumbler # Interviewer: How about a goblet then? 364: goblet has a h- handle to it Interviewer: Alright {NS} If I ask you how much did you drink you'd say oh I 364: uh Interviewer: Drank a lot? {NS} Or you might ask me how much have you 364: Drank. Interviewer: Alright. We sure drank a lot of w- okay Uh when dinner's on the table and the family's standing around waiting to begin, what do you say to them? 364: They're standing around waiting Interviewer: To begin to eat what do you say to the family? {NS} 364: Mm I don't believe I can get to {D: tell you what} Interviewer: You just say sit down? Perhaps do you just say sit down at the table? or What do you ask people to come to the table to eat? If theres not family maybe to friends or strangers. 364: uh I s- I just tell them to be seated. Interviewer: Okay that's what I want to know. Uh somebody comes in the dining room and you ask him won't you 364: Sit down. Interviewer: Alright so then he sits and begins to eat no one else is standing they had all 364: We have all eat Interviewer: Alright we've all sat down okay if you want someone not to wait until the potatoes are passed what do you say to them? If you're eating and you don't want everybody to have to ask for the potatoes you just say what to them? 364: Pass me the potatoes. Interviewer: Alright but you'll sometimes you'll say don't wait for it don't wait for anything just help yourself. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Help yourself. Interviewer: uh if you decide not to eat something you just say I don't 364: Like it. Interviewer: okay {NW} If the food has been cooked and served a second time what do you say it's been done? If you're eating today's if you're eating yesterday's food today what do you call it? 364: Leftovers. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} {NW} 364: Yeah eating leftovers. {NS} Interviewer: You put food in your mouth and then you begin to 364: Chew. Interviewer: Alright a dish made uh we already talked about mush though a dish made out of boiled corn and of corn meal and water that's mush isn't it? 364: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Uh what do you call peas beets and things like that that you grow in a garden? 364: Vegetables. Interviewer: Okay. uh And the small plot that you might grow vegetables, what do you call that? 364: Garden. Interviewer: Alright whats the southern food that's often served with sausage and eggs its made out of ground corn and boiled 364: Made of grou- grain? Interviewer: Yes sir, and boiled. You m- you eat it with bacon and eggs maybe. or sausage and eggs is that grits? Hominy is that hominy grits? 364: Must be hominy grits. Interviewer: Okay what and and then hominy is uh made from the whole grain 364: The whole grain. Interviewer: And you just remove the what the 364: Husk. Interviewer: the husk. {NS} {NW} What's the starch made from the inside of a grain that's raised either in Louisiana Arkansas or Texas? The chinese eat it. 364: Rice. Interviewer: {NW} What are some names for non tax paid alcoholic beverages? 364: Bootleg. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} If it's not made of very high quality and made under unsanitary conditions 364: uh Interviewer: Some other names for it. {NS} 364: Wild cat. Interviewer: Okay. Is that uh moonshine 364: Yeah. Interviewer: and rye catch you call thats the same 364: same thing. {NS} Interviewer: When somethings cooking and it makes a good impression on your nostrils you'd say to someone just 364: Made a good impression. Interviewer: Mm-hmm {NS} 364: uh {NW} Interviewer: If you liked it the way it 364: oh I'd see if if if I liked it I'd say it smells good. Interviewer: {NW} uh You crush cane and boil the juice and make what? 364: Molasses. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} What do you call sweet sticky liquid that you put on flapjacks? 364: That's syrup. Interviewer: Alright what's the difference between syrup and molasses? 364: Syrup is thinner than molasses. Interviewer: Okay. You say this isn't imitation maple syrup it's a name for real 364: uh An imitation for maple syrup? Interviewer: You say this is not imitation maple syrup it's 364: This is real. Interviewer: Alright what's another word for real how about on leather or cow hide it's sometimes stamped on it and it'll say it's not imitation it's 364: Real. Interviewer: Alright do you know the term genuine? 364: #1 yeah yeah # Interviewer: #2 Alright # 364: Genuine, genuine {NS} yeah genuine leather. Interviewer: okay {NW} uh when sugar isn't packaged in uh in uh a sack but way down in the barrel you say it's sold in what? 364: I didn't get the Interviewer: Alright when they don't package sugar you know and it's just in a barrel maybe and you go in and buy some or used to you'd say it's sold in what? I buy some 364: Bulk. Interviewer: #1 yeah okay that's # 364: #2 sold in the # bulk Interviewer: okay {NS} What is the the sweet spread called that you make by boiling sugar and the juice of fruits? 364: Syrup uh uh jelly. Interviewer: Okay. What do you have on the table to season food with? 364: Salt and pepper. Interviewer: okay uh if your some if there's are some apples and a child wants one he says 364: {X} give me an apple. Interviewer: Okay. If you say it wasn't these boys it must've been one of 364: uh wasn't these boys Interviewer: not these it must've been 364: Those boys. Interviewer: If you're pointing to a tree way off you might say it's {NS} It's that tree way what would you say? 364: mm {NS} oh Interviewer: Or you say he doesn't live here it's a it's a he lives way 364: Way off. #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 Alright # #1 how about # 364: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Yonder? 364: Yeah way off yonder. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} You say don't do it that way you do it 364: This way. Interviewer: Alright uh when somebody speaks to you and you don't hear what he says what do you say to make him repeat it? 364: I say I beg your pardon. {NS} and that means I didn't understand Interviewer: okay {NW} If a man has plenty of money he doesn't have anything to worry about but life's hard on a man who's 364: Yeah that means that I didn't understand. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} {NS} If a man has plenty of money, he doesn't have anything to worry about but life's hard on a man who's? {NS} 364: {NW} Interviewer: If you don't have plenty of money what are you? 364: Poor. #1 Poor. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: I I got that one. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} If you have a lot of peach trees you have a what? 364: A orchard. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh if you're if you're poor but next door the fa- the little boy has money, what do you say about him? 364: I'd say oh he's wealthy dude. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh inside a cherry what's the part that you don't eat called? 364: The pit. Interviewer: Uh how about inside a peach? 364: Its also a we'd call it the peach seed. Interviewer: Alright. What kind of peach is it that you have to cut the seed out of? That you have to cut it out of that it doesn't just pull apart. 364: Oh. We call that plum peach. Interviewer: Alright and then the kind that pulls apart is called? 364: Freestone. Interviewer: Mm-kay. What do you call the part of the apple that you throw away? 364: Core. Interviewer: Uh when you cut up apples or peaches and dry them what are you making? 364: Why would you we'd call 'em we just called 'em dried apples #1 or dried # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 364: peaches. Interviewer: Did you ever her- hear the term snit? S-N-I-T-S? For dried fruit? 364: No. Interviewer: I didn't #1 either. # 364: #2 I think. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Oh. #1 We # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # 364: we don't use that #1 frequently around here. # Interviewer: #2 Common? # We we do either. Uh the kind of nut that you pull up out of the ground and roast? 364: That's peanuts. Interviewer: What other names for 'em do you know? 364: Goobers. Interviewer: Okay. {C: laughing} 364: {NW} Interviewer: What other kind of nuts do you have that grow locally? 364: What other kind? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: We have uh pecans. And uh Scaly bark. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Walnuts. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: I reckon that's all about all I think edible nuts we have. Interviewer: Okay what do you call the hard covering of a walnut? The hard covering of a walnut? That you break away and it leaves stain on your hands #1 sometimes. # 364: #2 Uh. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Uh. {NS} {NW} We usually call 'em the hull. Interviewer: Okay. Is that different from the shell now? #1 The hull's the # 364: #2 Wh- # Interviewer: #1 out # 364: #2 The # hull is different from the shell. Now the hull is a is a the hull the hull more of that is covered with the hull the shell. But uh. All of them got away from it. 364: The hull is a i-it covers the whole thing. Interviewer: That's the outside part? 364: Outside. Uh-huh. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Now what what Interviewer: #1 The shell? # 364: #2 wo- # Shell. The shell is it actually its dried and break it. Interviewer: Okay its inside the hull? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. 364: The shell's inside the hull. Interviewer: Uh do you know a kind of nut that grows down south and its long and its flat-shaped something like your eye, shaped kinda like your eye. It has a thin shell and it has little porous holes in the shell on it. 364: {NW} {NS} Interviewer: We don't grow 'em right here but way #1 down south # 364: #2 Yeah? # Interviewer: I think they do. Do you know of an almond? 364: Almond? That's what I was trying to think of the name of it. Interviewer: You think that's #1 what they're describing I? # 364: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: Its not a pecan is it? 364: No its #1 not a pecan its flat probably not # Interviewer: #2 {D: Because of the porous shells but not} # 364: #1 It's # Interviewer: #2 probably not # 364: flat. and uh its been a long time I yeah I've seen them every usually Christmas time. Almonds. And there's another nut that grows we we have I can't remember what it is. We we used to call peach seed almonds they {D: s-seed innards} uh so they got a taste of a peach seed. Have you ever eaten a #1 peach? # Interviewer: #2 No sir. # Uh-uh. 364: You've never tasted peach seed? Interviewer: Uh-uh. {NW} 364: We used to call 'em peach seed almonds. {NS} Interviewer: {D: I don't know if that can work.} Okay a kind of fruit about as big as an apple but with a thick skin like a lemon? 364: Like a grow like an apple? Interviewer: #1 Its # 364: #2 Orange? # Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 But # Interviewer: And you'd if you one day you go out to get one and there aren't any left you'd say the oranges are? 364: Gone. Interviewer: Okay. Uh a little red vegetable that grows under the ground and its peppery tasting hot tasting? 364: Grows under the ground? Interviewer: The I think the ve- the part that you eat grows under the ground. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Its a little root vegetable and its red and you eat it raw. 364: Oh that's uh Radish. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh then uh the round the kind of red vegetables that you grow and you slice 'em up and eat 'em on lettuce? Or you make ketchup out of 'em? 364: Oh that's tomatoes. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh along with your meat you might have a baked what? 364: Potato. Interviewer: Alright. Uh now what kind are you talking about when you talk about a potato, do you mean the the a white potato like you eat or what kinds of potatoes are you talking about? 364: I'm talking about a sweet potato. Interviewer: Oh well that's the kind you like. 364: Mm-hmm. #1 Sweet potato. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # What do we call commonly call just white baking potatoes or? 364: Irish potato. Interviewer: Alright. Uh do you know the uh the word yam is that the same thing as a sweet potato? #1 A yam. # 364: #2 A what? # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Yam? Yes they're same. But we don't call 'em that around Interviewer: #1 here # 364: #2 No. # No we don't call 'em yams. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh a vegetable that smells strong it makes tears come to your eyes when you peel it? 364: Onion. Interviewer: Okay. {C: laughing} Uh a vegetable that's uh about that long if you cut it right and its uh green and its a pod? 364: I think that's must be a cucumber. Interviewer: Alright but its in a pod. It has seeds in it not a cucumber you you can cut it up and fry it or you can boil it and eat it whole and its slimy when you boil it. 364: Its a vegetable? Mm. Interviewer: I love it fried, but I don't like it boiled cause its slimy. 364: Oh that's okra. Interviewer: {NW} 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: Okra. {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Uh # if you leave an apple or a plum around it'll dry up and then what does it do? 364: Shrivel. Interviewer: Okay. Uh the kind of cabbages that come in large leafy heads if you have some very large ones you might say those? 364: Collards. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Uh when you wanna get beans out of the pod by hand what would you have to do with 'em? 364: Shell 'em. Interviewer: Alright. Uh {NS} they're kind of large flat beans that you don't eat in the pod you shell 'em? 364: {NW} Interviewer: They 364: That's a butter bean. Interviewer: Alright. Any other names for a butter bean? 364: {NW} Lima bean. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Does it make a difference what size and what color they are? 364: Uh we we have different sizes. Baby limas or or well I just call 'em big butter beans. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: How about the kind of beans that you eat pod and all and you break 'em up to eat 'em? 364: That's string beans. {NS} Interviewer: Are they the same? 364: Snap beans. Interviewer: Alright. {NW} Uh let me see what do you call when you buy lettuce what do you call what you buy it in? 364: Lettuce? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. You buy a a what you don't buy it by the leaf what do you buy it by? 364: The head. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if you have two boys and three girls you have five children but do you ever speak of 'em jokingly as so many head of children? 364: {NW} I don't. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: You'd talk about head when you talk about? 364: Cattle or Interviewer: Cattle okay. {NW} If you if somebody had seven boys and seven girls you might say he had a something of children? 364: {NW} I I don't know seven and seven that'd be fourteen wouldn't it? Interviewer: When you're talking about him you'd say man he's got a? 364: Uh. I don't know what I I've got so many terms I don't which what term I'd use. {NW} Interviewer: Do you know of the term passel? 364: #1 Got a # Interviewer: #2 Got a # passel of kids? 364: Passel I'll rarely Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 rarely # use it. Interviewer: Okay. {C: laughing} 364: I don't I don't I don't know what if I've ever used it. Interviewer: But it means a lot, doesn't it? 364: #1 Lot, yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: Passel #1 Uh # Interviewer: #2 What # 364: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # the outside of an ear of corn called? 364: Shuck. Interviewer: Alright. What's the kind of corn you eat on the cob called? 364: Uh roasting it. Interviewer: Alright. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Do you know the uh term mutton corn? 364: Mutton? Interviewer: No. Mutton corn. They say its uh uh about the same as roasting ears but I. 364: Mutton corn? Interviewer: #1 Yes. # 364: #2 Well # I don't think I've ever heard of mutton corn. Interviewer: Okay. {C: laughing} What do you call the top of the corn stalk? 364: Tassel. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And the stringy stuff that comes out with the shucks? 364: That's the silks. Interviewer: Alright. A large round orange fruit that grows in the ground that you make pie out of at Thanksgiving? 364: That's old pumpkin. Interviewer: Mm-kay. A kind of small yellow crooked-necked vegetable? Small and its yellow and its kind of grows kind of crooked neck? 364: {NW} Interviewer: Talk about a squash for the last thing wasn't it? 364: #1 I think so. # Interviewer: #2 Uh # What kinds of melons do you raise? Around here? 364: Watermelon. Interviewer: And the kind that's yellow has yellow meat? 364: Cantaloupes. Interviewer: Okay. Do you know a-another name for cantaloupe? 364: Mushmelon. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh what are these little things that spring up in the woods sometimes after its damp and they're round uh shaped, look like a little umbrella? 364: {NW} That's uh mushroom. Interviewer: Mm-kay but do you know a name that children call 'em? 364: Frog stools. Interviewer: Okay. Interviewer: If a man has a sore throat and the inside of his throat's all red and swollen you'd say he couldn't eat that piece of meat because he couldn't? 364: Swallow. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh you're smoking a pipe what else do people smoke? 364: Cigarettes and cigars. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} You say if somebody offers to do you a favor and you say I appreciate it but I don't wanna be? Somebody offers to do a favor for you and you say well now I appreciate it but I just don't want to be? 364: {NW} I would say bothered uh. Interviewer: Alright how about obligated? Don't wanna be obligated to you do you use that? 364: That'll that'll be a good word #1 to use. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: Obligated. Interviewer: Do you hear anybody for for obligated saying beholding? Don't wanna be beholding? 364: Yeah I've used that I've used that expression. Interviewer: Mm-kay do you think we'd use that now or is that an old word? Like? 364: Well that's an old word. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} Somebody asks you about doing a certain job and you say sure I? If they'll say do you know how to do or can you do a certain thing and you'd say sure I? 364: Sure I sure I can. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Or I will. Interviewer: Alright and if you if you not able to do something you'd say I'd like to but I? 364: I just don't have time. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 Or. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: Uh if you either can or you? 364: Can't. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you're talking about the fact that so few of your old friends are still alive you might say I've spent all week looking for my high school classmates and it seems they're? 364: Difficult. Interviewer: Uh how about if they've already died? What would how would you say it? A lot of your old friends have already died how would you say that? 364: Oh I would say that uh I'd just use it flatly he's dead. Interviewer: Alright. Uh would you you wouldn't say he's passed on? #1 Or that okay. # 364: #2 No, no. # I don't, I'd just say dead, #1 I'd # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 364: that uh passed is a Interviewer: That's a #1 nice # 364: #2 phrase I don't # I {NW} don't I just don't don't I don't use. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Instead of. {NW} Interviewer: But you know I think funeral directors or something thinks that makes us feel better 364: #1 that yeah. # Interviewer: #2 and they # 364: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 364: You soften it down. Interviewer: Right. 364: Soften words down. Uh like I used to my mother used to make me bathe, take a bath you know? And uh she didn't use the term take a bath you go and wash. Auxiliary: {NW} 364: Wash yourself. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Clean you know? Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} But now that they use different oh soften it you know? Interviewer: That's right. 364: Make it easy. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 364: #1 Like uh # Interviewer: #2 Like # 364: old-fashioned consumption. People used to when well my father he died he died of consumption. But since then and now its TB. {C:Tuberculosis} Interviewer: Oh. 364: Soften it you know? Interviewer: Yeah. 364: Don't want that word consumption. {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Alright instead of saying uh that woman sure is fat you'd say well she's put on a little hasn't she? #1 Or she's # Auxiliary: #2 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 Yeah yeah. # Interviewer: She's {D: favorably} #1 plump or # 364: #2 Oh # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 And and uh # it don't don't use the word she's fat. Interviewer: No. 364: No she's uh what's the what did you just call it? Stout. Interviewer: {NW} 364: She's stout. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Do you say if the boy got a whipping you'd say I bet he got that whipping because he did something he? 364: Shouldn't have done. Interviewer: Alright. Uh do you use the the form or the the word ought not have done? Or oughtn't have done? For shouldn't have. 364: Shouldn't have done. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 I # Interviewer: You don't use ought? Ought not have? Instead of shouldn't? 364: No I I I don't remember if #1 I don't think I use that. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # Um. When you get something done that was hard work all by yourself and your friend will stand around without helping you, you might turn to him and say will you? 364: Well it it sort of depends on whether I was scared of him #1 or not. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: {NW} Well if I'm not scared of him I'll tell him what I think about it. Interviewer: You'd say well you might've helped me? 364: Yeah. You should've helped. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh what kind of bird is it that you that can see in the dark? 364: {D: Staying awake.} Interviewer: A bird that can see in the dark? 364: Bat. Interviewer: A bat. #1 Not uh # 364: #2 Bat. # Interviewer: well another kind around here that can see in the dark. A big old bird that hoots? 364: Oh an owl? Interviewer: Alright do you call uh is there a difference in a screech owl and an owl? 364: Yes. Interviewer: Are they different sizes or #1 forms? # 364: #2 Different size # size and different species I I th- I reckon. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 364: Must be. A screech owl is a little {D: bigger owl}. He's small. Interviewer: And he doesn't hoot he sort of screams? 364: Yeah. But uh uh the old big hooting owls we'd call they they great great big things. Interviewer: I heard one the other night down at my new house is out out of town a a ways and uh this thing was just screaming #1 during the night and it # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: scared me it sounded like a a person #1 screaming. # 364: #2 Yeah. # Auxiliary: It's children? 364: Well there's an old Auxiliary: {NW} 364: Uh saying superstition about a screech owl. Old folks used to say a thing one come near the house and moan and do that little moaning they say that, we'd go oh we're gonna have a death. Interviewer: #1 Oh is? # 364: #2 It # that's a sign of death. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Yeah. Interviewer: Uh how about a kind of bird that drills holes in trees? 364: Peckerwood. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Uh have you ever heard of call a people peckerwoods? Everybody heard anybody call a person a peckerwood? What old peckerwood did? Auxiliary: {NW} 364: Wood woodchuck or wood? Interviewer: Well now I've I've heard somebody maybe talk about a person and they'd call a person a peckerwood. 364: Oh yeah. Yeah. Peckerwood. Interviewer: #1 Or a child # 364: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: maybe? #1 That little peckerwood that # 364: #2 Yeah. Peckerwood. # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Uh what's a kind of black wild animal with a powerful smell? 364: Oh polecat #1 I passed # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # 364: #1 one this morning. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Alright and other names for a polecat? 364: Skunk. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh what kind of animals come and raid hen roosts? 364: Animal? Interviewer: That might raid your hen nest? Or hen roost? 364: That'd be a possum. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Uh how about a name that takes care of all kind of animals like that like well you'd call rats and mice and bedbugs and all kind of animals or insects that you don't like maybe? In one name do you know what a group name for those? 364: {NW} I'd call 'em pests. Interviewer: Pests? How about varmints? 364: Varmint? Well I've seen it that a varmint is a you you spoke about uh bedbugs? Interviewer: Alright. You wouldn't call insects varmints? 364: No. Interviewer: I see. 364: I wouldn't call but a varmint we uh I tell if a varmint is a su- such as a polecat. Raccoon and stuff like that. Uh. Fox. Interviewer: Animals. 364: Animals. #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh a bushy tailed animal in the treetops what are those? 364: That's a squirrel. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Have you ever heard of a squirrel called a boomer? 364: No? Interviewer: You ever heard of a mountain boomer? 364: No I don't I don't know #1 what. # Interviewer: #2 Well # they say this says that some some squirrels some people call squirrels mountain boomers now we don't that's not a term we #1 use here is it? # 364: #2 No no. # I never heard of it #1 I don't # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # 364: don't remember. Interviewer: What color are are most of the squirrels around here? 364: Gray. Interviewer: Is there another color? 364: Yeah there's uh. Brown. Interviewer: Do you call him different maybe by a different name? 364: Yeah he'd be a fox squirrel. Interviewer: Alright. What's the difference in them? 364: Well a fox squirrel is much larger. And he is brown. Interviewer: Okay. 364: But our little our {D: common} squirrels are gray squirrels. Interviewer: Okay. Uh its a little animal something like a squirrel but it doesn't climb trees? 364: {NW} #1 That would # Interviewer: #2 Cute little animal I think. # They don't run they just scurry across the. Auxiliary: Yes. 364: Yeah we #1 call 'em # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # 364: we call 'em ground #1 squirrels # Auxiliary: #2 Ground squirrels. # Interviewer: Alright is #1 that the same? # 364: #2 But uh # the name for 'em is uh. Auxiliary: Chipmunk. 364: #1 Chipmunk. # Interviewer: #2 Ah its a chipmunk. # 364: Chipmunk. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} What kind of fish can you get around here? 364: Catfish. Bass. Uh perch. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 364: And suckers. Oh there's so many different fish I don't can't name 'em all. {NW} Interviewer: What'd your wife just tell me that you ate for supper every night? Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: What'd your wife just tell me you like for supper with crackers? 364: Oysters. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 Oysters. Yeah. # We don't have 'em round #1 here. # Interviewer: #2 No can't # 364: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 get 'em round here and # I love 'em too. 364: Oh yeah. Auxiliary: Yeah. Interviewer: What's the uh little animal that croaks in the round the water at night? #1 Around the # Auxiliary: #2 Frog. # Interviewer: pond? 364: Would that be a frog? #1 Bullfrog. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # Auxiliary: A bullfr- frog. Interviewer: Uh how about little bitty kinds of frogs? Are they different? 364: Yeah. We have a tree frog. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: And we have a toad frog. And we have we have uh bullfrogs. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh what might you put on your hook when you go fishing? 364: Bait. Interviewer: Uh if you dig it up out of the ground? 364: Mm-hmm a worm. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Inchworm. Interviewer: What kind of worm? 364: Uh red worm. Interviewer: Alright. 364: We call 'em. Interviewer: Is there a name for a a bigger livelier kind of worm? 364: Uh {NW} I don't know what they called. Interviewer: Is there an you do you know the term angleworm? 364: {NW} Is that uh no I I don't know the difference between the worms. Interviewer: Okay. 364: This now down from uh down on the river, when I was on the river they had a different worm down there I'd never s- I don't know what kind of worm that was they fish with him he was a fine fish bait. But he was a black worm. Grow about that long. And he run like a snake. Interviewer: Oh. 364: And I couldn't catch him to save my life. {NW} Interviewer: You said when you were down on the river do you mean when you did you live somewhere else #1 {X} # 364: #2 No I worked on the river. # Interviewer: I see. 364: {NW} Interviewer: What's the hard-shelled thing that pulls in its neck and its legs into its shell? 364: That'll be a terrapin. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Or Auxiliary: Turtle. 364: or a turtle either one. Interviewer: Okay. Uh its a kind of little uh thing its got claws on it and you find it in a little a small stream and when you turn over a rock sometimes it swims away backwards? 364: Crawfish. Interviewer: Alright. Uh then there are small fan-tailed sea animals and they've got a shell that's real thin and its almost transparent you know it? 364: That's uh uh {NW} #1 I can't call it a name # Interviewer: #2 Tell me # Alright I saw men fish for 'em with a net from the boat back in #1 Louisiana and # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: on the gulf? 364: What is that thing? Auxiliary: Is it 364: #1 Clams? # Auxiliary: #2 {D: shrimp?} # 364: #1 No. # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: A clam alright what do you know? 364: Uh. There's another #1 name # Auxiliary: #2 Yeah. # 364: for 'em but I #1 can't # Auxiliary: #2 Muscle shells. # 364: #1 Huh? # Auxiliary: #2 Uh. # 364: No no. Interviewer: Is it shrimp? 364: Shrimp. Interviewer: Shrimp. 364: #1 That's it. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: {NW} Shrimp. Interviewer: Alright what's an insect that flies around a light and tries to fly onto it and when you grab it powder comes off on your hands? 364: Candle fly. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh other names for a candle fly? 364: {NW} {NW} I I group 'em all as candle #1 flies. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay do you # call 'em moths? #1 Is that the same thing as a moth? # 364: #2 Huh? # Moth? I I wouldn't think it would be the same thing moth is uh Auxiliary: {X} 364: They gets in your clothes #1 eat your # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: clothes up. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Moths do. But a c- Interviewer: Uh what flies around with a light on its tail at night? Kind of little insect that flies around and has a light on its tail? 364: Candle fly. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh we call those they they they flash their lights on and off in the summertime? What is that little bug that flies around in the summertime and he flashes his tail on and off? Auxiliary: Lightning bug. Interviewer: Kids like to catch 'em and put 'em in a jar? Auxiliary: {NW} 364: That's a lightning bug. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Is that a same the same thing as a firefly? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Same. Some people call 'em fire flies. Interviewer: Mm-kay. There's an insect that's long and it has a thin body. {NS} And and he has uh tiny wings two pairs of wings and sometimes people see 'em they say they're a sign that snakes are nearby? What do you call him? 364: Now what kind of insect is that? Interviewer: It eats mosquitoes? 364: Uh what? Interviewer: Eats it eats mosquitoes. But they haven't I see 'em flying around sometimes and people say that watch out that means there's a snake nearby. 364: Has two sets of wings? Interviewer: It has two sets of wings this says. Two pairs of shiny wings. 364: I don't know what that could be. Interviewer: Is that what we'd call a snake doctor? Auxiliary: Snake doctor. {NW} 364: Snake doctor? Interviewer: Is that I didn't know it had two pairs of wings does it? Auxiliary: I think it do. Yeah I've seen one right out there with four just the other day. 364: I I reckon that must be what it is. Interviewer: That's the same thing as a dragonfly? 364: Yeah. Yeah I think it is. #1 It must be the same thing. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: A dragonfly. Interviewer: What kind of stinging insects do we have around here? 364: {NW} Wasp. Interviewer: {NW} 364: And uh {NW} Auxiliary: Hornet. 364: Hornet. Yellow jacket. Auxiliary: Yellow. Interviewer: How about the the kind that does that we that doesn't sting and he builds a a little house out of clay? 364: We call him dirt dauber. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh things that fly around at night and bite you and sometimes they carry malaria? 364: That's {X} mosquitoes. Interviewer: Alright. {NS} And then there's a #1 type # 364: #2 I thought # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 we'd get to the mosquitoes right? # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: There's a type of insect that's red and he burrows up in your skin and itches, what's he called? Auxiliary: Chigger. {NW} 364: Yeah. Chigger #1 yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # Is that the same thing as a redbug? 364: Redbug. Interviewer: Alright. Uh they're insects some of 'em are green and some are brown and they hop along in the grass in the summertime? Some {X} 364: Grasshopper. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # Auxiliary: #2 Grasshopper. # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: Uh what do you call a small fish that you use for fish bait? 364: Small fish? Auxiliary: Minnow. 364: Yeah. Be a minnow. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um the the things that gather up in the ceiling of the room and you have to get a a broom or something and knock 'em down? When you clean house? 364: That must be a dirt dauber. Interviewer: Alright but this is just a oh its a thing #1 that happens # 364: #2 Oh yeah uh # uh. Spider. Interviewer: Alright. What is that thing called that he weaves? 364: Web. Interviewer: Okay. Uh what do you call the part of a tree that grows underneath the ground? 364: Call that the root. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Do you know any kinds of roots that around here that are used for medicine? 364: Oh yes. Uh we have well we have sassafras it's used sassafras roots. And uh there's another root that we uh is a good medicine hackberry root. And all its all of 'em's good for something but those are two roots that I know that's good for different things. Interviewer: Okay. What kind of tree do you tap to make syrup out of? 364: Maple. Interviewer: Uh what do you call the place where there are a lot of maple trees growing? 364: Maple grove. Interviewer: Okay. Uh its a kind of tree with broad leaves and they shed all at one time its got long white limbs and a white scaly bark on it, what kind of tree is that? 364: I don't know what it is. Interviewer: They said that the has a tough wood and that they use it for making chopping blocks out of? 364: Chopping blocks? Interviewer: Make a chopping block out of that tree its real hard wood. 364: Oh a maple oh um no. #1 Beech # Auxiliary: #2 Elm? # 364: Beechwood. Interviewer: Well it didn't do you know a sycamore tree? 364: Yeah. #1 Syc- # Interviewer: #2 Is that it? # 364: I'd rather think um b-beech. Its harder than s- than uh sycamore. Interviewer: Alright. 364: But uh either one's a hard wood. Interviewer: What other ki- kind of common trees grow around in this area? 364: Pine. Uh. Auxiliary: Cedar. 364: White oak. Cedar. Red oak. Ash. And uh all of the names {D: sell them different.} Interviewer: Mm-kay. What kind of tree did George Washington cut down? 364: Well that's a cherry tree. Interviewer: {NW} 364: The one. {NW} The little cherry tree. Interviewer: Alright this is a kind of bush and it grows along the road or by fences and it's leaves turn bright red early and it has little clusters of berries and old people use it to tan leather with? Do you know that bush? Or shrub? 364: {NW} What is that? #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 It says its # some of its poison. Some kind of its #1 poison. # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: #1 Do you know if it # 364: #2 Well its its # also a medicine. Interviewer: Yeah is it sumac? 364: Yeah. Sumac. Interviewer: Oh was that, I have 364: #1 Sumac sumac. # Interviewer: #2 I # 364: Sumac. Interviewer: Sumac. #1 Okay. # 364: #2 Sumac. # That's what it is. {NW} Interviewer: Does it grow down here? 364: Huh? Interviewer: Does it grow around here? 364: Oh yeah. Interviewer: Does it? 364: Yeah sumac here. Interviewer: Uh how about uh something that you don't want to get a hold of when you're out in the woods you don't want to get it on you cause it'll make you itch and? 364: Poison oak. Or ivy. #1 Poison ivy # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # How about names of red berries that you eat with sugar and cream? 364: Goose? No it wouldn't be a gooseberry. Interviewer: Alright. What other kind of berries? 364: #1 Uh. # Auxiliary: #2 Strawberry. # 364: Yeah strawberry. Interviewer: Okay. Uh what other kind'll grow around here? Of berries? 364: Strawberry, blackberry. That's that's mostly grown around here. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh there's a kind of berry that has a rough surface kind of like a looks like a blackberry but its its a red one do you know that one? We don't grow it here. Its real sour. You know what a raspberry? 364: Yeah a raspberry. Interviewer: But they don't grow here do they? 364: No. Interviewer: And blueberries don't grow 364: Blueberries don't grow here. Interviewer: Do they have to have cold weather? 364: Huh? Interviewer: Does blue do blueberries have to have cold weather? 364: I don't know. But uh they're in the north Interviewer: #1 Yeah? # 364: #2 and # yeah. There are just blueberry fields. Interviewer: And I just love 'em but you you can't grow 'em here. 364: No I don't know why. I'll have to try g-growing #1 some here. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # I just wonder. Do you know honeydew melon? 364: Yeah. #1 I # Interviewer: #2 I # brought some seed back from Texas last year of honeydew melon and they grow 'em out there just like we do cantaloupe or watermelon 364: Yeah. Interviewer: but we don't grow honeydew, do we? 364: Yeah sometimes. Interviewer: Do you? 364: I have grown and uh there was a man uh who was he? I don't know He is at uh Jackson's Feed and Seed store. He brought one he'd raised a honeydew. They don't grow too large. Interviewer: Uh-uh. 364: And that was the sweetest #1 thing yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Oo they're so # good and they pop #1 'em out # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: a dollar in the grocery store for a little ol' bitty one you know? 364: I I've got one I think didn't somebody pull my melon? Mary brought me some seed from New York last spring. {C: Distorted} Interviewer: But I didn't know if you could uh grow them here or not. {C: Distorted} 364: Oh yeah yeah you can grow 'em here. {C: Distorted} Interviewer: But I have to say you ought we could because we thought it was about {C: Distorted} the same kind of climate here as it was in Texas {C: Distorted} #1 when we got there. # 364: #2 Uh-huh. # Do you pull my melon out there? Well let them uh. Interviewer: Are you the guilty one? Auxiliary: I'm just sitting {D: in this mind going who goes?} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # 364: I planted them you give me the seeds and I planted them.{C: Laughter} Auxiliary: {NW} No I didn't pull it. 364: Uh I think I saw it in the kitchen then. Interviewer: I just didn't know you could grow honeydew #1 melons. # Auxiliary: #2 That wasn't honeydew. # 364: Huh? Auxiliary: That wasn't honeydew. That was just plain old cantaloupe {D: must go out of our way.} Never brought that. 364: #1 Well I # Auxiliary: #2 You. # 364: I thought thinking maybe it was honeydew. Auxiliary: {NW} 364: But. Interviewer: Not it? 364: Uh uh now. A honeydew do uh it don't have a brown rind. Interviewer: No it has a green rind. 364: Green rind. #1 yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Real smooth rind. 364: Yeah. Sure. Interviewer: Real sweet and good and the the meat is green. Auxiliary: It 364: #1 Yeah it sure is. # Auxiliary: #2 sure is. # I raise them every year out there in the garden. and little bits. {X} 364: Uh they, they're they they're not slick rind. Auxiliary: They're green? Green rinds? 364: Now that's the #1 sweetest # Auxiliary: #2 Green. # 364: melon #1 Uh. # Auxiliary: #2 Yeah? # 364: #1 I wish I could grow a # Auxiliary: #2 {D: Its very good.} # 364: #1 patch of 'em. # Auxiliary: #2 I've got plenty of seeds now. # 364: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 364: I said last uh I said if I live uh and can get somebody's fixing me up some ground I was gonna try and raise me a patch of mush-melons. I don't care about my watermelon. Interviewer: I like about two a year. #1 Lo- # 364: #2 No. # Interviewer: Like 'em you know I. 364: I eat one little piece of melon every day down in the field. All all I've tasted this year. I used to wake up at night and eat watermelon. Interviewer: {NW} {NS} Lets see I guess we've got all the berries. How about uh uh some berries that grow in the woods and are not good to eat if they could kill you you'd say they're what kind of berries? 364: Hackberries. Interviewer: Alright but uh it not just a {D: hackberry} but any kind of berry that you can't eat what would you say don't eat it it might be? 364: Poison. Interviewer: Okay. Auxiliary: Pokeberry. Interviewer: Uh do you know a a flowering bush that blooms in the late spring that grows around here? 364: Blooms in the late spring? Oh I I don't know much about flowers. Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: Do you know the mountain laurel? Auxiliary: Yeah. 364: No I don't. Auxiliary: We have one sitting down now. Interviewer: Mm-kay. How about then there's a bigger one with uh longer stems and they grow further up in the mountains I don't believe they grow here. Rhododendron do you know rhododendron? 364: #1 No I don't know. # Auxiliary: #2 No I don't think I know that. # Interviewer: And now this one grows here its a large flowering tree and it has shiny leaves and a big white flower, and inside the flower there's a big ol' seed pod that's prickly. Do you know what that one is? Smells real good. Smells lemony kinda. 364: {NW} No I Interviewer: You know the magnolia? 364: #1 No # Auxiliary: #2 Magnolia. # 364: I don't know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 364: I don't know. Interviewer: #1 You don't # 364: #2 You # Interviewer: know any more about flowers than you do cooking, #1 don't you? # 364: #2 Uh no # I sure don't. {NW} Auxiliary: I had all the little ones growing I tell you they. Interviewer: They're hard to raise aren't they? Auxiliary: Yeah they sure is. I've lost two three trying to raise. Interviewer: {NW} Auxiliary: {NW} 364: Magnolia? Auxiliary: Uh-huh. 364: Well I don't #1 I didn't know it # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 364: I didn't know it was a tree. Auxiliary: Yeah. #1 No its a large tree. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # #1 Like its a big tree. # 364: #2 Yeah? # I didn't know it #1 was raised. # Interviewer: #2 They're real # {D: all thing bounds} that they're real messy #1 if they're real big # Auxiliary: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: because they'd fall off. #1 It'd be # 364: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: #1 if I'm # Auxiliary: #2 They smell good. # Interviewer: How about uh uh names that uh your wife might call you at night instead of husband? What might? 364: Uh-oh. I ain't gonna tell that.{C: Laughter} {NW} Interviewer: #1 If she's referring. # 364: #2 I # I ain't gonna Auxiliary: {NW} 364: I sure ain't gonna tell that. Auxiliary: {D: I'll spare you.} 364: {NW} #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 If she's referring # to you to somebody and she says well now I don't know if I can buy that or not I'll just have to ask my? 364: Well. Uh she might if she's talking to somebody else #1 she might've said # Interviewer: #2 Yeah? # 364: husband. #1 But if she's # Interviewer: #2 But if she didn't # 364: talking to me now I ain't gonna tell what she. {NW} Interviewer: Uh does she ever call you her old man? 364: Huh? Interviewer: Her old man? 364: Uh no I don't think no she ain't no never call 'em I ain't never remember her calling me uh #1 her old man. # Interviewer: #2 But you know # some women do #1 refer to their husbands as # 364: #2 Yeah yeah. # Interviewer: #1 my old man. # 364: #2 And and # Some Its more commonly with white women. She's not saying her old man, says my man. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Oh really? 364: Oh yes, that. {NW} Interviewer: She won't say my old man she's gonna #1 not huh. # 364: #2 No she says # my man. Interviewer: I see. 364: {NW} Interviewer: How about what you call her then? #1 Instead of my wife? # 364: #2 Well # Well it uh that sort of depends. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Do you ever call her your old lady? 364: No I call her my wife. Interviewer: Your wife. Have you ever called her your missus? 364: No. Interviewer: No? 364: No. Interviewer: Now just okay the missus some of 'em some of 'em call us the missus. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Or my woman but okay. How about a woman whose husband's dead what do you call her? 364: A widow. Interviewer: If he just left her not dead what do you know a a term that you might? 364: {X} Interviewer: {NW} Okay. The the man whose son you are is called your who? 364: The man is who is? Interviewer: You're the son of whom? What do you call your? 364: My son. Interviewer: Alright well what does your son call you? 364: They call they usually call me Daddy if they don't call me a bad name. Interviewer: Oh well I bet they don't call you a bad name. 364: Oh yes they do. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Some of 'em call call me names I ain't gonna tell. Interviewer: {NW} 364: I won't use. Auxiliary: Oh. Interviewer: And instead of Daddy what would be a a more 364: Papa. Interviewer: Alright what'd probably be a more polite form? 364: Father. Interviewer: Alright. Um and what did you call your father? What term did you call your father? 364: If I had uh if had uh known my father uh I'd call him Papa. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and his his wife would be called your? 364: Grandmother. Interviewer: Alright uh what did you what did you call your mother? What name? 364: I called her Mama. Interviewer: Alright. And your father and mother together are called your? 364: Parents. Interviewer: Okay. Uh instead of uh speaking of your children as your children do you sometimes call them other names? 364: Kids. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Uh that's my co-common #1 thing. {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. {C: laughing} # 364: #1 My kids. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # A a a name that a child's known by just in the family what would that be? Maybe a child's name is William but then the family calls him something #1 else? # 364: #2 A nickname. # Interviewer: Okay. What is something on wheels that you put a baby in and it lies down in it? 364: Baby buggy. Interviewer: Alright. Um you might say um if you put the baby in the car- baby buggy and were gonna go out and uh take him outside in the fresh air what would you say you're gonna do to the baby? 364: {NW} I don't know I never did have much to do. #1 {D: Yeah I had no business.} # Interviewer: #2 You never did much babysitting did you? # Auxiliary: #1 Oh no no no. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Auxiliary: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # I ne- I never did a baby rock. #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 He just loves babies. # Interviewer: Uh 364: Ride the baby. Interviewer: Ride the baby okay that's fine. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Um. How would you say your children range in age you'd say well so-and-so is the which one would be the in chronological age how would you describe #1 your children? # 364: #2 Uh. # This is oldest. #1 Youngest. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: And uh this is next to this so-and-so. Interviewer: Okay good. How about uh You would you say the most grown-up? You'd just say the oldest. 364: Oldest. #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # Your children are your sons and? 364: Daughters. Interviewer: And all of your children are boys and? 364: Girls. Interviewer: Alright. If a woman is about to have a baby you say she's? 364: Pregnant. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Any other terms? 364: Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. Lots of terms. Interviewer: Uh any of the terms that you'd say that women use just to each other like? {NS} 364: Uh. {NS} Well its I guess so I don't know 'em. Interviewer: You don't know any #1 okay. # 364: #2 Uh-uh. # Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Any uh 364: {NW} Interviewer: If the woman doesn't have a husband and she's about to have a baby would you talk of it a different way? 364: We we call 'em bastards. Interviewer: Alright. 364: {NW} Interviewer: And you told me a while ago your grand uh your mother was a? You said she was a housewife but she was also a? #1 What'd you say? # 364: #2 Midwife. # Interviewer: Okay. And a midwife is somebody who delivers a baby if you don't have a doctor. 364: That's right. Interviewer: There are not many of those left anymore #1 are there? # 364: #2 No no. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: Kay. 364: I don't know of any. Interviewer: If a boy has the same color hair and eyes as his father and the same shaped nose you might say he? 364: Resembles him. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh you love to take Aunt Jane's advice about your children she's already so-and-so ten of them what would you say? 364: I didn't get the first part. Interviewer: Okay well you ought to take her advice about children cause she's already? 364: Experienced it. #1 uh. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 364: {NW} Interviewer: She's already raised or? 364: Yeah. Raised them. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh to a child who is mis- misbehaved you'd say if you do that again I'll give you a good? 364: Spanking. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} {NS} Interviewer: You A lot of times when you go to a family reunion or something you see a child you hadn't seen in a long time you're gonna say my how you've? 364: Have grown. Interviewer: Okay. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Um. What is your brother's son called? 364: Nephew. Interviewer: A child that's lost both it's father and mother is called? 364: Miss? Interviewer: A child who's lost both his father and mother. 364: Orphan. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Orphan child. Interviewer: Uh what is the person who's appointed to look after an orphan? 364: Guardian. Interviewer: Uh if you have a lot of cousins, nephews, and nieces around you'd say this town is full of my? 364: Kinfolk. Interviewer: Okay. Someone who comes into town and new and no one's ever seen him before he's what? 364: Hadn't seen before? Interviewer: Yes sir nobody. 364: A stranger. Interviewer: Right. Mm-kay. Uh a common name for a girl beginning with M? The name of the mother of Jesus? 364: Mary. Interviewer: Kay. And a common name that I hope George Washington's wife? #1 You remember? # 364: #2 First lady? # Interviewer: Yes sir. You remember her first name? 364: Martha. Interviewer: Okay. Uh a nickname for Helen but it begins with N? And its there's a song wait till the sun shines? 364: And its the same name as Helen? Interviewer: Yes sir its a nickname for Helen but it begins with an N. 364: Nanny? No. It wouldn't be that. Interviewer: Do you know the the old song wait till the sun shines? Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: And then it has that name with it? 364: No I. Interviewer: Do you know the name Nelly? Nelly. 364: No I don't. Interviewer: N-E-L-L-Y they say is a nickname for Helen. Auxiliary: {NW} 364: Nelly? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: #1 No I didn't know that. # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # And the nickname for a little boy named William? 364: Bill. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And if and when he's older you call him Bill what do you call him when he's younger? Do you make any distinction between Billy and Bills? 364: I wouldn't. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh the first book of the New Testament in the Bible? 364: That'd be Genesis. Interviewer: In the New Testament. 364: Oh in Gene- it'd be uh Matthew. Interviewer: Okay. A woman who conducts school is a what? 364: She's a teacher. Interviewer: Okay. You ever call her a schoolmarm? 364: Yeah. #1 Schoolmarm. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} 364: Now that's uh uh that's a northern term. Interviewer: Is it? 364: We use that in the north. Schoolmarm. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um do you know the the name of the town where the baseball hall of fame is? In Ohio? Do you know the name Cooperstown? 364: {NW} I heard of it but I didn't I didn't uh don't remember this uh hall of fame. Interviewer: Mm-hmm where the baseball hall of fame that's where Babe Ruth's 364: Yeah? Interviewer: belongings and #1 things are. # 364: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: Okay. Are are uh it says its the name of a barrel maker do you know what's a coop? The Cooper Barrel Makers does that name? #1 Do you mean anything to that? # 364: #2 No. No. # Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay. # 364: #2 {NW} # I don't know that. Interviewer: Alright anyway if you knew somebody whose family name was Cooper how would you address a woman by that name? 364: I'd be you'd say Miss Cooper or Mister Cooper uh Missus Cooper. #1 Or m- # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 364: Miss Cooper. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh a preacher that's not really trained and he doesn't have a regular pulpit but he preaches on Sunday here and there and makes his living doing something else what kind of preacher do you call him? Auxiliary: {NW} 364: Mostly jackleg. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Jackleg priest. Interviewer: Would you would you refer to uh would you use the term jack-leg in talking about a lawyer or a doctor as well as a preacher? 364: Sure. Interviewer: So it just means untrained? 364: Untrained. Interviewer: Okay. 364: And. {NW} Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Uh what relation would your mother's sister be to you? 364: My mo- uh my aunt? Interviewer: Yeah that's right. 364: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Uh do the do do you know the name of the wife of Abraham in the Bible? 364: Abraham? Interviewer: Abraham's wife do you know her name? 364: Sarah. Interviewer: That's right. Do you know uh if your now if your father had a brother whose name was William, what would you call him? 364: Uncle Bill. Interviewer: Alright. How about if he was John? 364: {D: How abouts which?} Interviewer: If his name was John? 364: Uncle John. Interviewer: Okay. Uh I'm gonna get in trouble with this one. There's not the commander of the army of Northern Virginia, who was he? Who was the the commander of the southern of the Confederate Army? 364: {NW} Well. Interviewer: General Grant was the northern army, who was the southern? 364: Here comes you got some company out there. Interviewer: Yeah it looks like he #1 got. # 364: #2 Uh # let's see. Uh {NS} Andrew Jackson? #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 Uh # how about in uh in World War II George Patton if you knew George Patton what what title would you address him by? {NS} 364: Colonel? {NS} Interviewer: Higher than a colonel? {NS} 364: No I don't remember. Yeah thank you. Uh. {C: lots of background noise} Interviewer: What's the highest? What was what was Eisenhower? 364: He was a general. Interviewer: Alright #1 that's what I'm looking for. # 364: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: And you said colonel. How about one uh the man in charge of a ship? 364: He's an admiral. Interviewer: Um. Maybe higher than an admiral or lower I don't know much about these myself. 364: Mm. Interviewer: Uh captain. Is that higher or lower than an admiral? 364: Oh its uh much lower. Interviewer: Much lower #1 than an admiral? # 364: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: Okay. 364: But a a an admiral yeah. Admiral is uh he's a he's a same as a general. Interviewer: He is? 364: Yeah. #1 Same as a # Interviewer: #2 Okay but # just anybody who was in charge of a ship would be called a captain wouldn't they? #1 Okay. # 364: #2 Yeah yeah sure. # {NW} Interviewer: How about the man who presides over the uh county court? What do you call him? 364: Judge. Interviewer: Alright. What do you call a person who goes to college to study? 364: I'd call 'em a I'd just call 'em a student. Interviewer: Okay. Do you make the distinction between a scholar and student? Does a 364: No. Interviewer: A scholar mean anything different than a student? 364: Not not in my thinking. Interviewer: Alright good. Uh a woman in an office who handles the boss's mail and schedules his appointments and so forth, what's she called? 364: The clerk. Interviewer: Alright and another word for it let's see. She's called maybe his private? 364: Clerk. Interviewer: Or. 364: Private secretary. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Private secretary. Interviewer: Mm-kay. A woman who appears in plays or movies is called a what? 364: Star. Interviewer: Alright and she's not that big of a not that well known just playing in the movie what would she be called? 364: Mm. Interviewer: Actress? 364: Well yeah actress. #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 An actress. # 364: that that'll be a term for that I guess. Interviewer: Alright. 364: But. Interviewer: And uh your nationality anyone born in the U.S.A is called an? 364: {D: Where was we born?} Interviewer: Anybody who's born in the United States is called? 364: A citizen. Interviewer: Alright but what nationality and what? If you live in America what are you? 364: Citizen. #1 {D: Yup.} # Interviewer: #2 Alright # an American citizen. Uh. 364: An American citizen. Interviewer: Alright. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Now I'm gonna get in trouble with this one too I guess. Um. I know I {D: ought} introduce it like they tell me to here. {NW} They tell me that not too many years ago these people had special facilities from schools and public toilets to seats in restaurants and buses and who were they? 364: Had which? Interviewer: Had special facilities. Special schools and public toilets and seats in restaurants and buses #1 who were they? # 364: #2 {D: That there's} # the negro. Interviewer: {NW} 364: You ain't gonna have no trouble with that. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} Alright. That you are of the negro race what do you call the race that I am now? 364: Caucasian. Interviewer: Alright. Uh. Let me ask you about joking words that you call white people. 364: Joking? #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 That you might # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 refer to white people. # 364: You mean slang? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: That's uh like uh like you call me a nigger? Interviewer: Yes sir now what would you call 364: Peckerwood. Interviewer: Pecker. {NW} 364: {NW} #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Does that mean? 364: Now that's that's just joking now. Interviewer: Well that's okay does that mean the same thing as a poor white? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: What you'd call white trash? 364: White white {NW} we got so many name. White trash {D: Rosen's} chores. Interviewer: Now what's that one? 364: {D: Rosen chores.} Interviewer: Don't know that one. 364: You don't know? You never heard? Oh that's common with with us. Interviewer: {NW} 364: We we call oh that one ain't nothing but an old {D: Rosen chore.} Interviewer: I see I didn't #1 know that. # 364: #2 Peckerwood. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Uh #1 {D: Rosen chore or} # Interviewer: #2 {D: Are we get?} # 364: poor white trash stuff like. But y'all uh the white uses that poor white #1 trash. # Interviewer: #2 We use it # too we sure do. 364: You sure do. Interviewer: How about rednecks? 364: Yeah they call 'em rednecks. Interviewer: That's a name that makes Jordan what word makes Jordan Wallace mad is when you call him a redneck. 364: {NW} Yeah oh now when it comes to that old stuff we uh we are full of it. Uh some some people resent some negroes resent the word nigger. I do myself. I resent it. But I allow that for old custom. Interviewer: Yeah well I don't think young people anymore say that they say negro or black. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 364: They don't say it now. No. Refers to my self. {C: pronunciation} Interviewer: Alright. 364: An an and uh they address me as boy {D: with his drive making one yellow} he'll colored me boy. Called me a boy. Interviewer: But I don't think they do that much anymore do they? 364: Not I checked on one yesterday in Hill county. She called me {D: purple.} Interviewer: Oh hello Louise. How are you? {NW} I'm so glad to see you. Auxiliary: {D: Rosen chore?} Interviewer: Uh when Louise her friend came in he was telling me what all names he used for 364: {NW} Interviewer: to call us they'd say. 364: {NW} Interviewer: How about a child born of a racially mixed marriage? 364: They're mulattoes. Interviewer: Alright with one black grandparent? Is that a mulatto? 364: Mm uh-huh. Interviewer: With one black great-grandparent? 364: That's still mulatto. Interviewer: Uh one with especially light colored skin. 364: Well it they still in in our books they're still mulatto. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh how would you as an old-timer call the man you worked for? What was the term you'd call the man you worked for? Long years ago. 364: Yeah long years ago. I'd call him my main. Most folks most of the workers call it boss. Interviewer: Mm-kay if you weren't using his last name then you'd just call him? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Boss? #1 Okay. # 364: #2 Mr. Smith and Mr. Jones # Interviewer: Okay. Um white people who aren't well-off haven't had a chance at education especially those that are good for nothing and too lazy to work what did you call them? {NW} 364: {NW} Well I'd call 'em like I would a a black person I'd just call 'em good for nothing. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} No good folks. Interviewer: Did it make the difference if they were town or country people? 364: If it no no. Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay. # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # 364: Make no difference who they are. #1 Or where they are. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # We talked about poor whites and you named you mentioned that term peckerwood did you ever her-hear the term cracker? 364: Yeah oh yeah. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Is that mean about the same thing? 364: Same thing. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Same thing. Interviewer: Uh somebody who lives out in the country and doesn't know anything about town ways? What would you? Do you know terms for calling him? 364: They usually call him a country man. Interviewer: Alright. Do you know the term mountain boomer? 364: I don't remember that #1 term. # Interviewer: #2 I don't believe that's ours # 364: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 do you? # 364: No that's not ours. Interviewer: Hayseed? 364: Who? Interviewer: A hayseed. 364: No. Interviewer: Stump jumper? 364: No. Interviewer: Don't know anything. 364: #1 Don't know that. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: #1 Those term. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # 364: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Uh if its not quite midnight and somebody asks you what time it is you might say well its not quite midnight yet but its? 364: Uh. Oh I. Interviewer: Would you? 364: I would say its near midnight. Interviewer: Alright. {X} 364: I didn't I'd I'd go and comment on some of those. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: Well what if Doc Foster come back if he needs you to comment on some of 'em? 364: {NW} Interviewer: If someone is waiting for you to get ready so that you can go out with him and he calls to you hey will you be ready soon you might answer I'll be with you in? 364: A few minutes. Interviewer: Uh you know you're on the right road but aren't sure of the distance you ask somebody how? 364: Far. Interviewer: If you're pointing at something nearby you say? 364: Yonder. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh if you want to know how many times you say how blank did you go to town? Thought about how many times? 364: Five. Uh you know what uh that's uh how many times do you go to town? Interviewer: Alright do you use uh the term how often do you #1 go to town? # 364: #2 Often mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Mm-kay. You agree with a friend when he says I'm not going to do that or I'm not going to vote for that person and you say I'm not either but how did you say it? 364: Uh I would give a reason just for my not voting for him. Interviewer: Alright would you say uh neither am I or nor me either or? 364: Neither am I. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Neither am I. Interviewer: Uh this part of the head's called what? 364: Fore. {NS} Interviewer: Uh you go to the barber and have him cut your? What do you go to? 364: Hair. Interviewer: Alright how about this? 364: Uh shave me. Interviewer: Alright uh what's what do you shave off? 364: My whiskers. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. {C: laughing} # A long one? 364: Beard. Interviewer: Okay. #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} Where did the old-time storekeeper keep his pencil when he wasn't using it? 364: Behind his ear. Interviewer: {NW} #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Which one? 364: Usually the right ear. Interviewer: Unless he was left-handed right? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Usually the right ear. Interviewer: If someone's mumbling you say take that chewing gum out of your? 364: Mouth. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Uh # he got a chicken bone stuck in his? 364: Throat. Interviewer: Alright what's the outside of the throat called? 364: Uh its uh wait a minute wait {NW} and let's see. Adam's apple. Interviewer: Okay. {C: laughing} 364: {NW} Interviewer: The goozle ain't an Adam's apple 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. And the this part uh. 364: Throat. Interviewer: Alright but that you wrap your tie around? 364: Around your neck? Interviewer: Okay. You have the dentist look at your? 364: Teeth. Interviewer: Uh the flesh around the teeth? 364: Gums. Interviewer: Uh this part of your hand? 364: {D: Palm.} Interviewer: This kind part? 364: Uh. Your {D: fingers}. Interviewer: Okay and two of 'em? 364: Two yeah. Interviewer: Mm-kay. A place where your bones come together? 364: Joint. Interviewer: Uh upper part of a man's body? 364: Your breast. Interviewer: Of a man's body? You call do you call it the same that you do a woman's body? 364: It shifts. Interviewer: Okay. And if you say he's got broad this part? 364: #1 Broad shoulders. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 364: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Uh you measure the height of a horse in what? 364: Hands. Interviewer: Uh the the pain ran from his heel all the way up his? 364: Leg. Interviewer: At the end of your leg is your? 364: End of a end of a leg. It's foot. Interviewer: Alright and you have two? 364: Feet. Interviewer: Okay. I stumbled over a box in the dark and bruised my what's this part called? 364: Your ankle? Interviewer: Uh the front part maybe? 364: The front? #1 Oh the shin. # Interviewer: #2 You bruise the? # Mm-kay. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: The back part of the thigh its about midway between the knee and the butt, you're squatting down on what? 364: Uh get down on your hunkers. Interviewer: Mm-kay {NS} #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Someone's been sick a while but he's up and about now but you stay he's say he still looks a bit? 364: He's still still #1 sick. # Interviewer: #2 He's # he's been sick but he's up uh and about now but you look at him and think he still looks just a little bit? 364: A little bit off or s- uh {D: sleek.} Interviewer: Alright puny? 364: Puny #1 yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # Do you use the word peaked? Looks a little peaked? 364: I don't use it #1 uh-uh. # Interviewer: #2 Uh okay. # 364: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Uh uh a person who can lift heavy weights? What would you say about him? 364: If {D: they what?} Interviewer: A person who could lift a heavy weight how would you describe them? 364: Stout. Interviewer: Okay. Uh a person who always has a smile on his face and never loses his temper you say he's mighty? 364: Mighty pleasant. Interviewer: Okay. 364: He's a mighty pleasant man. Interviewer: {NW} Uh somebody like a teenager who's all arms and legs and always falling over his feet you'd say he's mighty? 364: Clumsy. {NW} Interviewer: A person who keeps on doing things that don't make any sense you say he's just a plain old? 364: Fool. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} 364: {NW} Like me. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: Now I wouldn't say that. #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 I know that word mighty well. # Interviewer: {NW} A person who has plenty of money and hangs onto it is what? 364: Oh he's stingy. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh somebody who gets money and help from other people but doesn't give much or anything #1 in return. # 364: #2 Free-hearted # He's free-hearted. Interviewer: Uh the word tightwad you ever call anybody a tightwad? 364: Tightwad. Interviewer: He was stingy. 364: Yeah yeah Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: that's the same as Interviewer: Okay. 364: tightwad. And stingy. I've heard the expressions. #1 Uh but # Interviewer: #2 Do you # Excuse me go ahead. 364: I've heard that expression #1 lots # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # 364: of times, he's a tightwad. Interviewer: {NW} When we use the word common about a person what do you mean exactly? 364: Common? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Well what my term for a common person is a person that can uh acquaint himsel- uh adjust himself to any situation. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Whether it be rich or poor he's a common person. Interviewer: Alright uh then you'd use it in a complimentary sense you mean something good by it don't you? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh if do you do you ever use it in an uncomplimentary sense? 364: Well uh yeah I I say he's stuck up. Interviewer: Alright but if you say if you use the word common about a girl a girl being common do you mean something other than something good? 364: No. #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: #1 Uh I am # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: new to saying the term. Interviewer: Alright. Uh an old p- Interviewer: A girl being common, do you mean something other than something good? 364: No. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 No. # Uh I don't really Same term. Interviewer: Alright. Uh an old person say about eighty they say I'm not an old person, is it? 364: No. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Who still who still does his farm work and doesn't get tired, you'd say I don't care how old he is he's mighty? 364: Uh. Interviewer: #1 Somebody about like # 364: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: {X) {C: name} 364: If he if he's Uh eighty years old still doing his farm work I I would say he {NS} its its something unusual. Interviewer: Okay. 364: I would say. Interviewer: Do you still do you use the term chipper? He's right chipper? 364: No, I. Interviewer: {X} Peppy? Or spry? 364: Well I would use spry. Interviewer: Okay. 364: He's spry old man. Interviewer: Okay. Uh the children are out later than usual you say I don't suppose there's anything wrong, but I can't help feeling just a little bit? 364: Bad. Uh. Interviewer: Alright you're a little bit worried about 'em. 364: The children did what? Interviewer: They're out a little bit later than usual. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: And you? 364: I'm worried I'm I'm worried about 'em. Interviewer: Alright how about uneasy do you ever use that word? 364: Well I have, yes. I'm uneasy about it. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh I don't want to go upstairs in the dark, I'm? 364: Afraid. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Other words for afraid? 364: For what? Interviewer: Other words that mean afraid? 364: Fear. Interviewer: There's another word that means the same as afraid. As being afraid. {NS} 364: Uh. Auxiliary: {D: Hey.} 364: I would Uh. I can't think of an- Interviewer: She said fine, scared? 364: Uh. I don't know of another word {D: that'd fit in.} Interviewer: Okay. Uh you say she isn't afraid now but she? 364: Used to {D: listen.} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay. 364: Okay I I know there's gotta be a {X} Interviewer: I don't understand why she's afraid, she? How about the opposite of used to be? 364: Uh. 364: She's not afraid now. But she used to not be afraid. Interviewer: Alright, used to not be. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh somebody who leaves a lot of money on the table and the door unlocked you'd say he's mighty? 364: {NW} Careless. Interviewer: Alright. 364: I'd say he's careless. Interviewer: Okay. There's nothing really wrong with that Lindsey but sometimes she acts kind of? 364: Uh. Silly. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Would you use the word queer? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {D: Whatever} {D: you say that.} {NW} Interviewer: Somebody who makes up his mind and nothing can make him change it is mighty? 364: {D: Surely.} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 Uh. # {D: Dunmore or.} Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: In arguing somebody might say she might say why don't you be so? 364: Uh. In arguing? Interviewer: If you were arguing with somebody like that you just described, you'd bet you might say don't you be so? 364: {NW} Well in the Bible uh Paul said that if you uh you can't reckon uh. Reason with a person if if he's not silent-minded. Interviewer: Okay. 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # You might say don't be so stubborn? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Would you have used the word bull-headed? 364: Well I I may have. Interviewer: Or hard-headed? 364: Hard-headed. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Hard-headed. Interviewer: Okay. Somebody you can't joke with about him losing his temper you say he's mighty? 364: {NW} Well now we use the term high-tempered. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if somebody loses his temper when the least little fighting goes on he's awfully? 364: Fractious. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: I was just kidding him I didn't know he'd get? 364: Mad. Interviewer: If he's a bad temper all the time he's? 364: {NW} Well. My term my my term for that is uh well to me he's crazy. Interviewer: {NW} 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # You did ya ever use the term uh let's see feisty? 364: I don't I just I I use the crazy term. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Just a fool. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 {D: That he'd be.} # {NW} Interviewer: Somebody's about to lose his temper and you tell him now just? 364: Just be quiet. Interviewer: Alright. Keep calm? 364: Keep calm. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Quiet. Interviewer: If you've been working very hard you say you are very? 364: Tired. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you'd say I'm just completely? 364: {D: Year out.} Interviewer: Okay. You ever say worn out? 364: #1 W-worn out. # Interviewer: #2 You ever, do you? # Okay. He came home early from sick or work because he? 364: {D: Sick or what?} Interviewer: He came home early from school, excuse me, or work because he? 364: Failed. Interviewer: Or got sick? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Alright. Uh you'd say he's sick no that's the wrong one he's sick now but he'll be well again uh when? 364: A few days. Interviewer: Okay. Uh we'll get there? 364: Soon. Interviewer: Somebody got overheated and chilled and his eyes and nose started running, you'd say he? 364: Chilled? Interviewer: He got overheated and then he ch- got chilled and he started his eyes and nose started running, you'd say he? 364: Fell out? Interviewer: Oh well 364: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 well how would you describe what's wrong with him? # 364: {NW} {D:Fade} Interviewer: Oh well. Auxiliary: Taken a cold. Interviewer: {NW} Taken a cold? Or has took a cold? Auxiliary: Took a cold. 364: Well he had the uh eyes and nose. Interviewer: Mm yeah. 364: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 364: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # If it affected his voice you'd say he's? 364: Hoarse. Interviewer: Alright if he did {NW} that he'd have a little? 364: Cold. Interviewer: Alright what about a little tickling in your throat? 364: Uh sore throat? Interviewer: Makes you go {NW} What do you call that? 364: #1 Uh # Auxiliary: #2 A cold. # 364: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 364: I don't know what I'd call it Interviewer: {NW} 364: I had it all the time. Interviewer: A cough? Auxiliary: Cough. 364: Cough? Interviewer: Cough. 364: Cough. Well that would be alright Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 I guess. # A cough that now I I don't like that word but uh but {NW} Interviewer: But what? 364: {X} Interviewer: Oh got it. {NW} 364: I'll a-accept it. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: You'd say I better go to bed I'm feeling a little? 364: Tired. Or worn out uh. Interviewer: Drowsy or sleepy? 364: Sleepy yeah. Interviewer: Okay. Uh but at six oh clock I'll? After you go to bed, you say but at six oh clock I'll? 364: {X} Interviewer: I'll wake. 364: #1 Waking. # Interviewer: #2 You're gonna be waking up. # 364: Yeah yeah I I wake at six oh clock. Interviewer: Alright. Uh your wife would say he's still sleeping I'd better go? 364: {NW} Wake him. Interviewer: Okay. If the medicine is still by your bedside you'd ask why haven't you? 364: Taken your medicine. Interviewer: Alright. Somebody who can't hear well is getting a little? 364: Deaf. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you've been working hard and you take your work shirt off and say look how I? 364: Sweating. Interviewer: A lump on your arm with a big core in it its what? 364: A wart. Interviewer: Alright. But its discharging maybe some liquid. 364: Uh on your arm? Interviewer: Yes or on any part of your body a A sore, a of kind that's discharging something has a hard lump in it what would you call that? 364: Uh that has a {NW} Auxiliary: Rise? 364: I wouldn't say it's a rise, I'd say uh maybe a {D: cancer}. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: How about a boil? Auxiliary: A boil. 364: A boil. Interviewer: A boil. That would be alright, a boil. Or a rising? 364: A rising. Interviewer: Is that the same thing? 364: I'm gonna call it Auxiliary: Sure. 364: #1 stuff like that. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # Okay. When a boil opens the stuff that drains out's called what? 364: What's this open? Interviewer: When you open up a boil and it drains what do you call what drains out? 364: We we uh usually call it well the old {D: chasm's} collection. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: A bee stung me in my hand. 364: {D: Swole.} Interviewer: It's still pretty badly. 364: Yeah swollen. Interviewer: Alright. Uh when you get a blister, the liquid that forms under the skin is what? 364: The liquid? Interviewer: That forms under a blister. When you get a blister do you if you #1 pick? # 364: #2 Yeah I know. # Interviewer: Open it. 364: I know it #1 I know but I # Auxiliary: #2 Why would a # 364: I didn't know I just didn't Uh stick Uh my name for peeling is w-w wore out. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Auxiliary: What? Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} And soon it dries out. Interviewer: Okay. Somebody got shot or stabbed and you'd say you got a doctor to look at the? 364: He got a what? Interviewer: He got shot or stabbed, you'd say I better get a doctor to look at that? 364: Wound. Interviewer: Uh when a wound doesn't heal clean, and there's a white granular substance that forms around the edge, sometimes it has to be cut out or burned out with aloe. What do you call that? 364: Now I don't know that uh word. Uh would it be sterilized or? Uh. Interviewer: {X} what you call the wound? That kind of wound that just won't heal. 364: #1 You'd call it terrorsome. # Interviewer: #2 And you had # Uh do you know the term proud flesh? Auxiliary: Mm-hmm. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Is that what I'm describing? 364: Its not fully described unless proud flesh is uh is a wound that doesn't ever heal. And uh uh it it stays raw irritated all the time. Until you you burn out and burn it out. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh if you get just a little cut on your finger, what do you put on it to avoid infection? 364: We usually put to avoid infection? Interviewer: Yes. 364: Well we old-timers use turpentine Auxiliary: No we don't. 364: That's what we used to use. Interviewer: Okay this is a little uh small bottle of brown liquid and it stings? 364: Yeah. That would be uh I don't know what it what you would now call that old stuff, I don't. Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: #1 Uh. # 364: #2 Uh. # I don't know what they use now. Auxiliary: Mercurochrome. Interviewer: Uh. 364: No, it wouldn't be mercurochrome. Auxiliary: {D: On the five liter iodine} 364: #1 Yeah, iodine I know. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 364: Uh {X} Interviewer: Mm okay. 364: {D: Certainly make it next} I don't like the new stuff. Interviewer: {NW} 364: He he just putting turpentine on it. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: This used to be given sometimes as a tonic for malaria. 364: A tonic? Interviewer: For malaria. You take this to get rid of malaria. Or treat malaria. 364: I don't know nothing but whiskey. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Do you know uh the term-uh quinine or quinine? {C: pronunciation} Auxiliary: Yeah. 364: Yeah. Auxiliary: #1 Mm-hmm. # 364: #2 Uh. # Who thought of quinine? Was it old folks, old doctors used to use for malaria? Interviewer: Does rhubarb grow around here? Auxiliary: I'm not sure. 364: I'm not sure. #1 But # Interviewer: #2 I just # 364: uh that's what the old doctors {D: parts them early} doctors used to use. Rhubarb and quinine. Interviewer: You know you can't 364: And uh and rhubarb and what chamomile, chamomile. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Now that that was all doctor has so don't care if you stump your #1 foot yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 You need that # Interviewer: #2 {X} # What was the rhubarb for? 364: I don't know. I don't know. Auxiliary: And it'd kill me if I had to take the {D: dog up to} {X} 364: But that uh that's right with the old doctors not the new. Treating fever. Auxiliary: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 364: Malaria {C: pronunciation} and fever and stuff. Rhubarb and quinine. Interviewer: I love rhubarb pie, did you ever eat #1 rhubarb pie? # Auxiliary: #2 Ooh it's good food. # Interviewer: Oh it is. 364: Yeah. Auxiliary: {NW} My daughter who lives in Las Vegas she said that the two years that she made it {X} so good. Interviewer: {NW} The place where you bury people, what do you call that? 364: I'd call it a graveyard or a cemetery. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Uh the box that people are buried in? 364: It'd be the coffin. Interviewer: Okay. The ceremony at the cemetery? 364: {D: Equi Service.} Interviewer: Or at the church? 364: Uh. Funeral. Interviewer: Okay. Uh anything this is a term that uh when people are dressed in black when they've lost a? 364: Mourning. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Somebody asked you on an average day how are you feeling, and you'd respond? 364: Fine. Interviewer: Okay. Uh The children are out late and your wife's getting a bit excited, you say they'll be home alright just don't? Auxiliary: Worry. {NW} 364: Don't worry. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if you're getting old and your joints are stiff and aching you say you've got a touch of? 364: Rheumatism or arthritis. Interviewer: Okay. 364: I know about that. Interviewer: {NW} Auxiliary: I do too. Interviewer: A disease that you hardly ever hear of now because they give shots for it but it used to kill lots of children and it choked 'em to death? 364: That's uh diphtheria. Auxiliary: Diphtheria. Interviewer: This is a disease that makes you turn yellow. 364: Yellow jaundice. Interviewer: Okay. You have a part a pain down here, you have to have an operation, what is it 364: #1 Oh that's # Interviewer: #2 called? # 364: appendicitis. Interviewer: Okay. 364: I had {X} {D: no appendix.} Interviewer: When you eating great food that don't agree with you, and they come back up, you say you? 364: Vomit. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh which uh a crude term for vomit, a slang term for vomit, if you? 364: Threw up. Interviewer: Okay. Auxiliary: {NW} 364: Or puke. Interviewer: {NW} Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: At at a party, its getting pretty hot and you'd say I'd better get some fresh air, I'm beginning to feel a little sick? 364: Uh. {D: Yeah I don't see that much} uh {D: if its getting busy out.} Interviewer: Alright {X} 364: {X} {D: or something} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 like that. # Interviewer: If a person vomited you'd say he was sick where? 364: If he was {D: where?} Interviewer: If a person vomited when he was sick, you'd say he was? 364: Sick to stomach. Interviewer: Okay. Uh she'd hardly got the news when she came right over? 364: {D: What'd you say?} Interviewer: She'd hardly gotten the news and she came right over. {NS} 364: I I don't get that. Interviewer: Okay someone you'd say she'd hardly got the news when she had to come run right over here to tell me? 364: Oh. Interviewer: Ah. {NW} You'd say if he doesn't come I? 364: I'm gonna to him. Interviewer: Alright if you're going to be sorry that he doesn't come. 364: #1 Okay. # Interviewer: #2 If he doesn't come I'm going to what? # 364: If he doesn't come? {NS} Uh I'll be disappointed. Interviewer: Okay, good. Uh you'd say anytime just anytime you can come over we'll? 364: We'll you are welcome. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 Uh. # Interviewer: We'll be glad to see 364: #1 {D: You all.} # Interviewer: #2 {D: you all.} # Alright do you use {D: glad or proud?} 364: I use glad. Interviewer: Kay. {NS} Uh this is a an older term I guess for a boy going over to see his girl, what would you say he's doing? 364: Dating her. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} How about an older term maybe for dating her? 364: Uh courting. Interviewer: Okay. Uh a girl putting on her best dress and getting all dressed up her little brother says she's a fixing up for her? 364: Boy uh uh beau. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Well that's the word we used to use, beau. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you'd say he's going over to see his? 364: Beau I don't. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh. If a boy comes home with lipstick on his collar his little brother says you've been? 364: Dating. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Uh I I wish I could. Interviewer: {NW} 364: I always thought. I always thought I wish you was married. Interviewer: {NW} 364: And this ain't what. Interviewer: {NW} Well just tell me anyway I won't be embarrassed. 364: Yeah I don't I don't know if this is the kind of place for that talk. Interviewer: {NW} 364: What I wanted talk. {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 364: Lord I {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Uh here if I'd known you were mean when you were little. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Or you might know you were mean when you were 364: #1 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 364: #1 Always such a good boy. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Yeah. #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} 364: Well out of most of these questions, {D: I am super.} Most all of 'em. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # They're they're not uh not too embarrassed, some of 'em may be a little. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} I was I'd wait for Mister {NW} {D: Mister Billy she would call and just} {NW} I'd tell him to cut the line off when I wanted to tell a girl. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: When a girl stops letting a boy come over to see her, you'd say she? A girl stops letting a boy come to see her, you'd say she? 364: Uh she well there's so many terms for that, I'd say she's uh she quit him. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um you'd s you'd say uh about newlyweds they're just? 364: A newlywed? Interviewer: Uh-huh they've just married. 364: Yeah Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 364: #2 they just married. # Interviewer: Any humorous ways or slang ways of saying just married? 364: Just married. Yeah. They are honeymooning. Interviewer: Alright. 364: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Hitched # have you ever literally used the term hitched? They got hitched? Instead of married? 364: Mm. That ain't a term I use. Interviewer: {NW} 364: But I'll accept it. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: At a wedding, a man who stands up with the groom is called what? 364: Uh. The best man. Interviewer: Okay and the girl that stands up with the bride is her? 364: Uh. I I don't know. Interviewer: Bridesmaid? 364: Bridesmaid? Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 364: #2 Yeah, that'd # be alright yeah cause. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Ain't nobody stand with me. Interviewer: {NW} 364: When I had gotten in trouble. Interviewer: {NW} Aw. 364: {NW} Interviewer: I noticed you're saying all that after she left the room. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah? 364: {NW} Interviewer: After a wedding the boys in the neighborhood used to gather round the couple's home and they'd make all kinds of noise they had a word for what they called it, do you know it? 364: Yeah uh. Not celebrate. Serenading. Interviewer: Serenading 364: #1 Serenading. # Interviewer: #2 okay. # Uh do you know of the word shivaree? The term shivaree? For that celebration. 364: #1 No, I don't. # Interviewer: #2 A shivaree. # 364: I don't know. Interviewer: #1 I don't know it either, I don't # 364: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Don't believe its ours, do you? 364: But we used to serenade outside their room. Interviewer: Uh you'd say uh if you'd been in Knoxville, Tennessee would you say I've been up down or over to Knoxville? 364: Knoxville? I'd say I'd been up to Knoxville. Interviewer: Alright. How about Atlanta? 364: I'd say I'd been uh down to Atlanta. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} 364: We we would usually Interviewer: {NW} {X} 364: We usually say if its north we'd say up and if its south we would say Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 down. # Interviewer: {NS} Okay you you say up and down then are directions not not that its hilly or a road. 364: {NW} I don't I wouldn't I wouldn't {D: term} it like that. I usually use it as uh um direction north, south. Interviewer: Okay. 364: You use that with or Interviewer: Over to the east or west? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} 364: And up north and down south. Interviewer: Okay. 364: That's the way I use it. Interviewer: You might say there was trouble at the party, the police just came out and arrested the? 364: Whole gang. Interviewer: Okay. Uh What the young people like to go out to in the evening where they move around the floor? 364: {D: Dance}. Interviewer: Uh any names of various kinds of dances? 364: Oh yeah there's plenty of names for 'em. All kinds of names. Uh. Uh. We used to do the cakewalk. We used to do the two-step. Auxiliary: {X} 364: And we used to Auxiliary: {X} 364: do the cha-cha you know? {NW} So many different dances. Interviewer: Okay. You'd say three o'clock is the time when school? 364: Is out. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh The day after Labor Day is when school? 364: After labor day? Interviewer: Yes sir. The day after labor day is usually when school? 364: Begins. Interviewer: Okay. Uh How about a boy leaves home to go to school but didn't doesn't get there, what do you say about him? 364: Tardy. Interviewer: Alright, if he doesn't show up at all? 364: Um. Playing hooky. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh you go to school to get an? 364: Education. Interviewer: Okay. After high school you go on to? 364: College. Interviewer: After kindergarten you go into? 364: Uh uh kindergarten you go into elementary. Interviewer: Alright, which grade? 364: Elementary is oh I don't know. Interviewer: You ever did you ever call it primary? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: I did. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Primary school. Interviewer: You'd say uh the classroom has new chairs and? 364: Desks. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh a building especially for books is called a? 364: Library. Interviewer: Alright. Uh you mail a package at the? 364: {X} Interviewer: You mail a package you mail out a package at where? 364: At the post office. Interviewer: Alright. You stay overnight in a strange town at a what? 364: Hotel. Interviewer: Alright. Uh the place where you see a play or a movie? 364: Theater. Interviewer: Alright. Uh older names for a theater? 364: Uh a theater? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Uh. Let's see. Interviewer: Would you ever call it an opera house? 364: Well yeah I've heard the term I I don't know about it but I heard the term opera house. Interviewer: Where do you go to have an operation? 364: To the hospital. Interviewer: Alright and the a woman who looks after you in the hospital? 364: Is a nurse. Interviewer: Alright. Uh You catch a train where? 364: At the station. Interviewer: Alright. You might call it a railroad what? 364: Depot. Interviewer: Okay. Uh the place in the center of town around the courthouse? 364: The square. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if there's a vacant lot at a corner and you go across it instead of around it on the sidewalk you're walking how? 364: Jaywalking. Interviewer: {NW} Did you ever use the term kitty-corner or catty-corner? 364: {NW} I I don't Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 364: #2 don't remember. # Interviewer: And uh when women set a piece of furniture like this sometimes across a corner 364: Yeah? Interviewer: call it catty-corner. 364: Catty-corner. Interviewer: #1 Or kitty-corner. # 364: #2 Yeah. # Yeah well that's true too. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 Catty-corner. # Interviewer: {NS} Um Things that used to go by on rails in a city streets? 364: Streetcar. Interviewer: Okay. You tell the bus driver the next corner is where I want? 364: To get off. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh here in Franklin county Russellville is the? 364: County seat. Interviewer: Alright. If you're an FBI agent you're working for? 364: The federal federal government. Interviewer: Alright. A political candidate who wants the police to get tougher says he's for? 364: Wants police to get tougher? Interviewer: Yes sir, he might say in his speech I'm for? 364: Peace. Interviewer: Alright. How do you ever use the term law and order? 364: Yeah. Okay. {NS} That's what uh uh {D: Reverend Waters} uh said he he first he said he wasn't for law and order but when he became old he said he was. I I don't need it I don't mean to be in bad humor. Interviewer: You're not embarrassing him thinking like that. 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Really weren't gonna get into politics but he's not my candidate, he never has been mine. 364: Well I didn't think he looked any different cause I just didn't care what he said. But he said that he was he he was {NW} worth a {X} Didn't care when or what it coming down to four years he'd be governor he'd see that there wouldn't be a negro going to white school. He said now uh I don't care what kind of order is issued what kind of court authorization. You {X} for four years I am your governor. They may maybe he'd have to go to jail, but I'll go to jail myself. Interviewer: He didn't though did he? 364: Uh. You people ain't gonna stand seeing him go to jail let alone for her right now. Interviewer: {NW} 364: He said that over here in Florence. I said when uh when he was elected I said before now I'm gonna get my television in tip-top shape he said he wasn't gonna do it, {D: wasn't gonna abide by the law} I wanna see him when he placed a hand on the holy Bible. And swore he will uphold the constitution of the United States. And maintain law and order. When they told him {D: in thought} he wasn't gonna do it but I did, I sat there and watched {NW} I said now {X} I was laying in bed still. Interviewer: He didn't stay in that schoolhouse door long though, did he? 364: He said he couldn't stand any schoolhouse door in the state of Alabama single one if we have niggers going #1 to a school # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: a white school. {NW} And I I heard {X} lots of 'em. {X} {D: you have ever did} {D: Wallace} And I told him I said I I voted for Wallace But if folks ran for for governor I voted for him. Interviewer: #1 I did # 364: #2 He was the best man. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # But when he said that I slid down off his wagon. I didn't want to go no further. Interviewer: I voted for Mister {D: DeGraffenried} and then now 364: #1 Yeah I did too. # Interviewer: #2 he got killed, didn't he? # 364: I did too. I voted {D: DeGraffenried} but his first uh his first uh candidacy was for between him {NS} and John Patterson. Interviewer: Yes. 364: And I voted Interviewer: And he was the better man and 364: #1 He had the # Interviewer: #2 for what he was # 364: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 Better man than Patterson. # 364: #2 Better man than Patterson. # I thought. Interviewer: Yeah. 364: But when he he said that he would never let another {D: nobody out here.} {NW} {D: Patterson lied immediately.} Interviewer: {NW} 364: {D: Well I mean when he comes back he comes after.} {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 364: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Well he's # gonna run again, isn't he? 364: Oh yeah, yeah. He's gonna run for president. Interviewer: Well there's not an {X} anybody else in Alabama to run against him because {D: if Albert Roker} couldn't beat him I don't believe anybody can. 364: There ain't no there ain't no reason why why to run against George Wallace, he's Interviewer: Uh-huh. 364: the smartest man in the Alabama. Interviewer: He's gonna get elected. 364: Oh yeah, well he's the smartest man in Alabama. Interviewer: And he will now for sure, you know after getting hurt. 364: {D: I know that he uh} He is a smart politician I have to give it to him. But I think he'll win it. Interviewer: I don't. 364: When he's smart, he fools you people. Interviewer: He never fooled me Mister T 364: {NW} Interviewer: He's not my man I worked for Mister Brewer in the last campaign. 364: Yeah. Well. Interviewer: And just thought surely he was gonna carry that election. 364: Well he never carried it. {D: Never really placed} He uh if uh {NW} this uh back man hadn't come in. Uh Mister Wallace who saw that he was he was gonna really lose out. {C: distorted from 31:45 to 32:00} And he had {D: ate a post} in the state of Alabama and he was {X} He was from uh {D: Wilkins} uh put it up Interviewer: Yeah. 364: I haven't been having a Interviewer: {NW] 364: He's smart. You have to give I'll give it to him. My hat's off to Mister Wallace for being smart. Interviewer: Well I don't believe he'll ever get anywhere nationally. 364: Because? It'd be very hard. Interviewer: Ah 364: #1 But there # Interviewer: #2 okay. # 364: are there are possibility. You know what believe it or not. Now he had {D: he he gone down to fool with Alabama} his laws are more Interviewer: #1 Well # 364: #2 {D: progressive.} # Interviewer: I was surprised in some of those other primary elections 364: #1 Yeah, yeah. # Interviewer: #2 he won, and I don't. # 364: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # But since then look we have a black Los Angeles mayor and just yesterday 364: Yeah. Interviewer: a black Atlanta mayor. 364: Yeah. I I know the {D: set.} Interviewer: So I don't know if Wallace is as strong as he was. I don't think he's as strong as he was even with the whites. 364: #1 Well if he asked you # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 364: you've lost a lot. They really Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 there there are lots of # #1 white people # Interviewer: #2 {X} # {X} 364: There's a lot of white people {D: this time} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {D:guessing.} # I I found that out. Interviewer: But I don't know if we'll feel sorry for him because he's hurt 364: {X} they call a sympathy vote sympathy vote. Interviewer: Mm. You'll get it out of that. 364: Oh yeah. Sympathy vote Interviewer: And I think his new wife is a beautiful woman Isn't she? Auxiliary: She sure is. 364: I don't know her but Interviewer: His new wife, I think she's a beautiful woman. Auxiliary: I do too. 364: {D: I thought she was some nobody} {C: reduced audio quality} I I I haven't seen any pictures of her. But uh {NS} Now some some uh disregard them up through 'em all because of his first wife. You can't beat Mister Wallace. Interviewer: No? 364: No. Interviewer: He married her knowing she was dying. 364: Oh yeah. Uh. {D: Lanny} said uh you see, she was in the hospital. Every Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 364: #2 once in a while # she was in the hospital. And then he said Mister Wallace would get her back before the uh this other man would take over. Interviewer: Yeah. 364: And he was the go-getter Interviewer: #1 and bring her back. # 364: #2 and bring her back to # his office. Interviewer: And she was just 364: #1 He's smart. # Interviewer: #2 trying. # 364: #1 He he said he he's gonna be. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 364: {NW} Interviewer: What did you call the war between the north and the south? 364: Civil. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh before they had an electric chair, murderers were? 364: Hanged. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh these are in now there are a few questions now that are about cities and states. Um Albany is the capital of what state? Do you know that one? 364: Alban? Interviewer: Albany. 364: #1 Oh oh its # Interviewer: #2 Albany. # 364: Albany, New York. Interviewer: Okay. And Annapolis is the capital of? 364: And Annapolis? Interviewer: Annapolis. 364: Indiana. Interviewer: Uh no you you said Indianapolis maybe I sounded like I said that. How about the state that Baltimore is in? 364: Maryland. Interviewer: Okay. Uh Richmond is the capital of? 364: Virginia. Interviewer: And Raleigh is the capital of? 364: North Carolina. Interviewer: And you told me the other day your uh father was born in what? 364: South Carolina. Interviewer: Alright. And Sherman marched across? 364: {NW} Interviewer: General Sherman marched across and burnt which state? Where Atlanta is. 364: Sherman. {D: General} Georgia. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Uh Tallahassee is the capital of? 364: Florida. Interviewer: And George Wallace is governor of? 364: Alabama. Interviewer: Yeah. 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Baton Rouge is the capital of? 364: {D: What word what?} Interviewer: Baton Rouge. 364: Louisiana. Interviewer: And the bluegrass state is? 364: #1 Kentucky. # Interviewer: #2 Where the # Okay. The volunteer state? 364: Volunteer? Interviewer: Volunteer state. Just north of us. 364: {NW} {NS} Ohio. Interviewer: Memphis and Nashville? 364: Tennessee. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Oh volunteer state. Yeah, I thought I knew that. {NS} Interviewer: The show-me state do you know that one? 364: Which one? Interviewer: Show-me. Where they say you're as uh stubborn as a? 364: Uh. Wait a minute, Missouri? Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And Little Rock is the capital of? 364: Um. Arkansas. Interviewer: And Jackson is the capital of? 364: Tennessee. Interviewer: Okay. The Lone Star state? 364: Oh that's {NW} uh {NS} uh I was thinking about that this morning Texas. Interviewer: Alright. 364: {NW} Interviewer: And Tulsa is in what state? 364: {D: Tulsa?} Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Oklahoma. Interviewer: Okay. And Boston? 364: Massachusetts Interviewer: Alright. And the states from Maine to Connecticut are called what states? 364: From Maine to Connecticut? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Uh. Wait a minute wait a minute let me see. Um. New England states. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: The biggest city in Maryland? 364: Baltimore. Interviewer: Alright. The capital of the United States? 364: Washington D-C Interviewer: Alright. Uh the biggest city in Missouri that has a blues song named after it? 364: Biggest city in? Interviewer: In Missouri. 364: Missouri? {NW} Interviewer: It's on a river I think. 364: It wouldn't be St Louis? Interviewer: That's it. 364: Yeah? St Louis? Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh the oldest {X} seaport in South Carolina. 364: Seaport in South Carolina? Interviewer: Yes. 364: {NW} South Carolina. Wait a minute. {NW} {NS} {D: I I don't know the name but I can't get it} Interviewer: Mm. 364: {D: Cape Cod.} Interviewer: Charleston. 364: Charleston South Carolina. {NW} Interviewer: The big steel making town in Alabama? 364: Its in uh {NS} Pitts uh Pittsburgh. Interviewer: Alright but the one in Alabama #1 where they make steel at? # 364: #2 Oh. # Yeah. Birmingham. Interviewer: Okay. The big city in Illinois. 364: In Illinois? Chicago. Interviewer: Alright. The capital of Alabama? 364: Montgomery. Interviewer: Alright. And the uh city on the gulf coast in Alabama? 364: City on the gulf coast? Mobile? Interviewer: Uh the biggest city in east Tennessee? 364: East Tennessee? Interviewer: Yes sir. Where {X} 364: Knoxville Interviewer: Yes sir. Um the city up in the mountains in Tennessee? 364: Chattanooga. Interviewer: Alright. Uh the city up in the mountains in North Carolina? Its a resort city? In western North Carolina. 364: Western North Carolina. I forgot all my geography for this. Western North Carolina? Interviewer: I forgot mine too. 364: {NW} Interviewer: This its Asheville. 364: Asheville. Interviewer: Asheville. 364: Asheville. Interviewer: {D: I don't know much about that} 364: I I I couldn't remember that. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um the big city in west Tennessee where Martin Luther King was killed? 364: Memphis. Interviewer: The capital of Tennessee? 364: Uh. Jackson. Tennessee is Nashville, Nashville. Interviewer: Okay. The capital and largest city in Georgia? 364: Atlanta. Interviewer: The biggest seaport in Georgia? 364: Augusta? No? {D: I don't know direction} {X} Interviewer: All the way down. 364: Mm. Interviewer: Savannah? 364: Hmm? Interviewer: Savannah? 364: Savannah. Savannah. Interviewer: The biggest city in New Orleans I mean no well I said it the biggest city in Louisiana? Uh. 364: New Orleans. Interviewer: {NW} Uh 364: {NW} Interviewer: And the capital of Louisiana? 364: Baton Rouge. Interviewer: Okay. Uh the biggest city in southern Ohio? 364: Cincinnati. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And the biggest city in Kentucky and all for the derby? {NS} {NS} 364: Uh Kentucky? Yeah. {NW} {NS} Louisville. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: Uh as you'd you might say from this town to that town is about? 364: Uh. {D: From which?} Interviewer: Now you might tell me the distance from here to {D: Russellville} is about how far? 364: About six miles. Interviewer: Alright. Uh. Somebody asked you to do something, you'd say well I don't know blank if I can do it or not. 364: I don't know whether Interviewer: Mm okay. 364: I can do it or not. Interviewer: Uh it you have a very sick friend and he's not likely to get any better {C: distorted} {X} When you could've used help you might ask afterwards why did you just sit around blank helping me? 364: Why'd you just sit around and see me uh in such a strain and wouldn't help me? Interviewer: Alright. Do you ever use the word instead of? 364: Ins- Interviewer: Instead of helping me why'd you just sit around instead of? You ever use that? 364: Uh-uh. Interviewer: Instead of. Why did you just sit around instead of working? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay. # 364: #2 Yeah. # Uh use that sometimes. Interviewer: Okay. 364: But {NW} Interviewer: {D: Uh a while} if somebody had asked you why do you like him, you'd say I like him? 364: Because he's friendly. Interviewer: Alright. . Uh names of churches, I believe this is the one you go to. 364: {NW} The churches I go to? Oh I just go to Baptist and Methodist. Interviewer: Okay. Uh when somebody becomes a member of the church you say he? 364: Joined. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh in church you worship? Auxiliary: Heaven. 364: God. Interviewer: Alright. When swearing do you pronounce it the same way? 364: Swearing? Interviewer: If you're swearing and you use God's name, do you pronounce it the same way? 364: Yes. Its pronounced the same way. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: It doesn't mean the same. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. You said the preacher preached a fine? 364: Sermon. Interviewer: Uh the choir and organist provided good? 364: Music. Interviewer: Uh the service was or the sunset was you're describing it now. 364: Mm. {NW} The service we had a wonderful service. Interviewer: Alright you're describing it and instead of saying pretty its more than pretty what is it? 364: More than what? Interviewer: More than pretty. 364: {NW} You You mean the service is more than? Interviewer: Was more than pretty what would you say? 364: Beautiful. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you'd say I thought I had time but I got caught in the tra- traffic and the post office was closed? 364: Hold that hold on I got that Interviewer: Okay. 364: Before all that there. Interviewer: Okay. What did people sometimes tell children would come and get them if they didn't behave? 364: Spankings. Interviewer: But they'd say that something was gonna come and 'em if they didn't behave who'd they tell 'em would come and get 'em? 364: Bogeyman. Interviewer: Okay. 364: I've heard that Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 expression. # Interviewer: {NW} 364: {X} {NW} Interviewer: Did they mean the devil? 364: I'm uh yeah. I've heard lots of 'em Interviewer: {NW} 364: old the ol' method {NS} {D: the old manner} {NS} if uh its a white child a nigger will get you Interviewer: {NW} 364: Now you gonna believe I've heard that Interviewer: Oh. 364: time and again. Auxiliary: {D: Young man} come on back here {D: or a nigger will get you.} Interviewer: {NW} 364: {D: Nigger says ah that's true oh.} Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} {X} You ever name a nigger when they're bad Interviewer: #1 Its like he # 364: #2 {X} # Interviewer: was the devil, huh? 364: Uh-huh. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Well I've had that that used to make me make me shudder when I'd hear that. Interviewer: You know sometimes they scare children with policemen with a {D: signed lighting} 364: #1 Yeah, yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 364: #1 {D: horrible to think of} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 364: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 364: Yeah now I I've heard that. Interviewer: And you're not supposed to scare children. 364: No, no. Interviewer: Policemen. 364: I remember once I was a little little boy between the years when {D: Rockwood} and there was a lady near the {X} Uh. {D: Burton Underwood} plays. And and she had a bunch of children playing out there in the road, you know? Near the raised road. And I heard in summertime oh I'd go up to the store every day or two. And uh Come on back here! There comes a man he'll get you. And I I just stood it long as I could. I told her that {D: lady} please don't scare your children like that. Said please ma'am and they were like she didn't she didn't use the phrase nigger. But now if I hadn't've been listening, she would have said nigger #1 yes she would. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # You knew what she meant any of it. 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # What is it that people sometimes think they see around a graveyard? 364: Oh a haint. Interviewer: Okay. Any other names for a #1 Haint? # 364: #2 Ghoul. # Ghoul. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. This is a uh a lonely old house off of a dark road people think they hear strange noises come from inside. 364: Oh that house is {D: haunted.} Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} You'd say you'd better put a sweater on, its getting? 364: Dark. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 What about # cold. Interviewer: Or it getting right chilly. 364: Yeah that. {C: Audio becomes faint} Interviewer: Rather chilly would you? Or sort of? 364: Yeah, its sort of Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 chilly. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: Uh you'd say I'll go if you insist, but I'm 364: {D: ah go on.} Um. Well other than that Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 {D: I'd go one if I can.} # Interviewer: Uh what do you say to a friend you haven't seen for some time? If you're glad to see them? 364: Well I I'm glad to see you because I hadn't I haven't seen you in quite a while. Interviewer: Alright. Uh you'd say he owns five hundred acres how much land would that be? That's a bunch of land. 364: Five hundred acres? Interviewer: Yes sir. If you were describing that much land how much land would you say that'd be? 364: I'd say he has a big farm. Interviewer: Okay. Did did you ever use the term a {D: right smart of land?} 364: Oh I have. Interviewer: #1 Does this mean? # 364: #2 {X} # If he had five hundred acres I'd say he got a lot of land. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: Got it. Uh would you also use the term right smart to talk about {D: pain?} If you had a right smart of pain Of pain. If you were hurting somewhere, talk about pain. 364: No, I'd say a lot. Interviewer: Alright. How about money? 364: #1 Oh # Interviewer: #2 Would you s-? # 364: {D: claiming on that.} Interviewer: {NW} 364: Plenty of money. Interviewer: If you want to express agreement stronger than with just yes, what would you say? 364: Yes. Interviewer: Stronger than yes. 364: Sure. Interviewer: Mm-kay. You'd I'd say can you really do that? And you'd say I? 364: I'm afraid I can't. Interviewer: Okay. 364: #1 Or I can. # Interviewer: #2 {D: When} # Mm-kay. Uh if you wanted to be very polite to somebody would you say just yes? 364: No, I'd say uh yes ma'am or yes sir. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Um. Interviewer: If somebody intensely disliked to go somewhere you'd say he? 364: If he? Interviewer: If he intensely disliked to go somewhere you'd say he? 364: Oh and he he not he don't wanna go? Interviewer: Yes sir. 364: Oh. Oh I don't know what it'd be. Sort of depends on the circumstances in that case. Interviewer: Mm-kay and how did 364: I might say he's {D: stuck in mud.} Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} {NS} Interviewer: Did uh do you say he he dreaded the place? Do you use the term dreaded? For hated? 364: Well not in that some instances I would say he dreaded it. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Or I might say he bull headed Or I might say he's peaked. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: Kay. 364: Or {X} some. {NW} Interviewer: Oh. If you hit your finger with a hammer what would you say? 364: Uh-oh. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # {D: Careless as ever.} Interviewer: {NW} 364: And I've got a blister I say nah and I ain't gonna tell you how its getting around here. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 Ah, okay. # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # It was me that {D: made} the thing let's say you run out. Wore out. {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: What might you exclaim when you were excited? 364: What's making me? Interviewer: What might you say when you were excited? 364: Oh scared me. Interviewer: Would you do you ever use the term land sakes? I believe women use that more than men, don't they? Land sakes. 364: Land sakes. Uh no I I don't know. {NS} I don't remember using it myself. Interviewer: Mm okay. What might you say when you're a little bit peeved at yourself for doing something foolish? 364: I'd just say I'm an old fool. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Just plain fool. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Which I I uh acknowledge mine. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: When something shocking is reported, you might show a kind of polite resentment by saying why are they? 364: Why are they? Something shocking? Interviewer: Yes sir. Or as you might say you said it, you'd say why the very? 364: The very idea. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} When a friend says good morning why what might you ask him in return? 364: How do you feel? Interviewer: Okay. When you are introduced to a stranger what might you say? 364: I'm glad to meet you. Interviewer: Um. 364: {NW} Interviewer: How do you greet somebody about December twenty-fifth? 364: Kind of a greeting? Interviewer: On December twenty-fifth or about. 364: Christmas eve or Christmas dear. Interviewer: Okay. 364: On the twenty-fifth. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Christmas dear. {NS} Interviewer: Uh well what might you say about January first? 364: Um. Happy new year. Interviewer: Alright. Uh anything you might say by way of appreciation besides thank you? 364: Well I'd just plainly say I appreciate. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Very much. Interviewer: Do you ever use the term {D: Mister T} uh I'm much obliged? 364: Well now I have. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: But I I I I think I appreciate it is a solid term. And I that's that's my Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: My thinking. Interviewer: Uh you'd say I have to go downtown a little while to do some? 364: Shopping. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if you make a purchase the store keeper takes a piece of paper and? 364: Well in my in my {D: reason} he had charged it. Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} If he does like when you're fixing up a Christmas package? 364: He's packaging it uh wrapped it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 Wrapped it. # Interviewer: Uh if the storekeeper sold something for two dollars that he'd paid two dollars a {D: hind} for you'd say he was selling it? 364: At a loss. Interviewer: Mm-kay. You admire something but don't have enough money to buy it, you'd say sure I like it, but it? 364: Uh its too high. Interviewer: Okay. Uh uh when its time to pay the bill on the first the month you say the bill is? 364: Due. Interviewer: Kay. 364: {D: But I ain't saying nothing.} {NW} Interviewer: {NW} And to stay in good standing in your club or {D: lodge} you have to pay your? 364: Dues. Interviewer: Alright. If you need to cut the grass and you don't have a lawnmower you might go over to a neighbor and ask to? 364: Borrow one. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NS} When the banker is gently refusing a loan, he might say well money is? 364: Scarce. Ah. {NW} Interviewer: You'd say and he ran down the springboard and? 364: Um. Interviewer: Ran down the springboard and into the water. 364: Oh. Dived. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} When you dive in and hit the water flat on your this part of your body, what do you call that? 364: Belly buster. Interviewer: {NW} When you turn head over heels you call that turning a what? 364: A somerset. Interviewer: Okay. Uh he'd already get across the river so he dived in and? 364: Swim. Interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} when you buy something or used to buy something or paid the bill sometimes the storekeeper would give you a little present and he'd say its for? 364: Um. {NS} Give you a present for? Uh your patronage. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 Uh. # Interviewer: I don't bel- I've never heard this word, the word is uh L-A-G-N-I-A-P-P-E. Lagn- Lagniappe? {C: Pronunciation} 364: I don't know that Interviewer: #1 I don't know it either. # 364: #2 word. # Interviewer: #1 And # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Some synonyms of it are brawtus B-R-A-W-T-U-S. And pilon P-I-L-O-N. And it's It's a bonus or a gift when a bill is paid. 364: I don't I know none of those Interviewer: Its not a local term is it? 364: Well most uh uh we we use it uh. {X} {NS} Quite often. Lots of times paid off our bill and he would say maybe here take it for your appreciation for your Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 364: #2 patronage. # Uh. And uh dealing with him. Interviewer: But I don't know those terms 364: #1 No, I don't know 'em. # Interviewer: #2 around here. Mm-kay. # Someone who got caught in a whirlpool and didn't get out you'd say he was? 364: Drowning. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh what does a baby do before its able to walk? 364: Crawl. Interviewer: Mm-kay. You saw something up a tree, you went to take a closer look at it so you went over to the tree and? You go up the tree. 364: Climb. Interviewer: Alright. 364: Climb the tree. Interviewer: Um {NS} playing hide and seek, you find yourself near a stump so you? 364: Said a stump? Interviewer: Yes sir, if you're playing, kids are playing hide and seek and they get near a 364: #1 Hide. # Interviewer: #2 stump. # 364: Where you hide in. Interviewer: Okay {NW} Uh when somebody's down on his uh knees say like shooting marbles, what do you say he's doing? 364: Well. Uh {NW} {NW} usually he's playing if he's not playing he {X} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 {D: for a ruler} # Interviewer: Do you use the term hunker down? You'd say he's hunkered down? 364: {X} I would say uh I would use it. I'd I might {NS} about {C: Audio volume decreased until 57:10} Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: I might use the word hunker. Interviewer: Uh if a child wanted to trick you he might hide behind a couch he'd go back there and hunker down when he jumped up he'd say? This to trick you? He might jump out behind the couch at you and say something, what would he say? {NS} 364: He trick you. In the scary way he'd say boo or something Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 like that. # Interviewer: Okay. 364: Yeah. {NS} Interviewer: In praying you say you? 364: Praying? Interviewer: In praying. 364: Praying? Interviewer: You what? When you get down to pray? 364: It's uh you first is address the deity. Uh. You'd you you usually begin with uh addressing the Father. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And in what position are you? 364: On my knees. Interviewer: Okay and what do you call that? 364: Praying. Interviewer: Alright. But then do you kneeling? 364: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Mm-hmm praying. {NS} Interviewer: Uh you'd say I'm feeling tired, I'm going over to the couch and? 364: Rest. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh you'd say all morning if he stayed in bed all morning all day he? 364: Slept. Interviewer: Okay. Uh talking about something you saw in your sleep you'd say this is what I? 364: Dreamed. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} Uh I dreamed I was falling but just as I was about to hit the ground I? 364: I wake. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh if you bring your foot down heavy on the floor like this you say you do what? 364: Stomp. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: When you see a friend leaving a party alone you might ask can I? 364: Can I assist you or or yeah. Could I assist you or? Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh would it make any difference in what you said whether you were walking or driving? 364: No. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Same lines. Interviewer: How about whether you were speaking to a man or a woman? 364: That would that'd be likewise. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Same there. Interviewer: Alright. Uh when you say uh could I carry you home, do you mean the same thing as to escort? 364: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. To get a boat up on land you tie a rope to the bow and? 364: Tow it in. Interviewer: Mm-kay. When your car gets stuck in the mud or snow you ask someone to get behind you and give you a? 364: Push. Interviewer: Mm-kay. You had a sack of groceries and didn't have your car, so you picked it up and? 364: Didn't have my car? Interviewer: No sir. 364: And I picked it up? Interviewer: And? 364: We use the term toted it. Interviewer: Okay. 364: {NW} I I was corrected in a {D: magazine I know of} that didn't use that word tote. They said pack. Interviewer: Pack okay. 364: Pack. Interviewer: Someone corrected me yesterday for using the word choice-y. {C: Slang} 364: Choice-y? Interviewer: They said there's no such word as choice-y. 364: Oh why? Interviewer: I said it must be I've used it all my life. {NW} 364: And I have too. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {NW} # Uh I I frequently used it. Interviewer: I did too. 364: #1 Well he's choice-y. # Interviewer: #2 I don't, I # I said the same thing and and they said uh is there such a word as choice-y? and I said well I thought so and they said the word was choosy. 364: Choosy? Interviewer: Not choice-y. Now I'd I was gonna look it up the dictionary today, but that's the first time I've thought about it 364: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 was when you said that. # 364: Uh I I I'm always seeing is that uh when when it come uh {D: hanging} I'd say oh he's too choice-y. Interviewer: I've said it too I'm I'll look that up and see. 364: Choosy? Interviewer: Choosy, they said was the word, 364: #1 Well it # Interviewer: #2 not choice-y. # They were teachers I was talking to and they you know they 364: Oh. Interviewer: #1 And # 364: #2 Well # it could be I I'm so off {D: the lawn.} Interviewer: Well I have too but I. 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} If a child is reaching toward a piece of fine glass that you don't want him to have you'll tell him? 364: Don't bother it. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if you need a hammer you'd say to me go? 364: Get my hammer. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um in a tag game a tag of a game of tag, you have to run and get back to your? 364: Base. Interviewer: Mm-kay. If you throw a ball and ask somebody to? If you throw a ball at at me you ask me to do what? 364: #1 Catch it. # Interviewer: #2 Not. # 364: #1 Catch it. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-kay. # Uh you say I've been fishing for trout but I haven't? 364: {D: Caught 'em.} Had a bite. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} You'd say lets meet in town, if I get there first I'll? 364: See you. Uh. If I can get there first I'll I'll wait. Interviewer: Okay, do you Do you say I'll wait for you or wait on you? 364: I'll wait for you. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} Uh a child wanting to get out of a spanking might say give me another? 364: Chance. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh somebody's got a smile on his face and a pleasant word for everybody you say he seems to be in a good? 364: Humor. Interviewer: Kay. {NW} Uh you say there's that pesky salesman again, wait till I? 364: That what? Interviewer: Pesky salesman again, wait till I? 364: Direct. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: You'd say we've got termites but I'm sure the exterminating company will? 364: I'm afraid I didn't get that. Interviewer: Okay. It it's a term to get rid of, do you say get rid of or get shed of or get shut of? You wanna get rid of something. 364: Oh yeah. Oh I would just say get rid of. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Yeah. Interviewer: You'd say he didn't really know what was going on but he? 364: Didn't really know what is going on. Oh I don't. Now that's there's a that's a term for Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay. # 364: #2 for a # calling them who it is Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 what # it is, and where he. {X} Interviewer: You might say he didn't know what was going on but he acted as he? as if he did? 364: Did, uh-huh. Acted as if he did. Interviewer: Or he made out like he did? 364: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And you say made out like 364: #1 I # Interviewer: #2 or acted like? # 364: I I say he made out like Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 he did. # That's what I was complaining with the day I left. Interviewer: {NW} A boy left his best pencil on his desk and came back and didn't find it he'd say I bet somebody. 364: Stole it. Interviewer: He usually left it in his other desk is what happened. 364: Mm. Interviewer: You'd say I had forgotten about that, but now I? 364: I remember. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say to me well you must have a better memory than I do because I sure don't? 364: Remember anything. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh you'd say I have just blank him a letter? 364: I just I've just written him a letter. Interviewer: Okay. And tomorrow I'm going to? 364: Uh. Interviewer: You're gonna send him another letter, tomorrow I'm going to? 364: Mail it. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you'd say in its time I was getting an? 364: Answer. Interviewer: Kay. Uh you put the letter in the envelope and then you take your pen and what do you do to the envelope? 364: Address it. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Did you ever use the term back it? 364: #1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: Back it. Interviewer: My mother said at the nursing home of the day she uh was going prepare a letter to mail for some patients 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 she'd say # Well hand it to me and I'll back it. 364: #1 Yeah. Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 for you. # And she said they all laughed because they hadn't heard that term in a long time. 364: Oh yeah? There are {X} I I I sometimes get {D: Mandy} to back a letter. Interviewer: {NW} You'd say I want to write to someone do you know his? 364: Address. Interviewer: You a child has learned something surprising the parent might ask who was it? 364: Taught you. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Who told you or. Why did where'd you get that? {NW} Interviewer: If I asked you when are you going to town, you'd say right now we're blank next Wednesday. 364: We're We're going to town next Wednesday. Interviewer: Okay. Do you say we intend or are fixing or aim? 364: Well I'd say we are we intend to go. Interviewer: Okay. You don't say aiming to go? 364: No. Interviewer: You maybe you heard of that? Aim I've of 364: #1 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #2 aiming. # 364: Oh yeah. Interviewer: Okay. What do children call somebody who's always running and telling on the others? 364: Tattletale. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: We're we're going to town next {D: Wednesday.} Interviewer: Okay. Do you say we intend or are fixing or aim? 364: Well I'd say we are we intend to go. Interviewer: Okay. You don't say aiming to go? 364: No. Interviewer: You maybe you've heard that? Aim I've 364: #1 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #2 heard of aiming to go. # 364: Oh yeah. Interviewer: Okay. What do children call somebody who's always running and telling on the others? 364: Tattletale. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NW} 364: Any difference between younger and older children? Interviewer: #1 Do they all # 364: #2 Well. # Interviewer: say the same thing you think? 364: Yeah they {NS} Interviewer: #1 I've heard. # 364: #2 They're usually # Interviewer: saying that. Okay. If you want to brighten up the room for a party you have a lot of things growing in your yard you go out and? 364: Clean 'em. Clean up. Interviewer: Alright what would you well I saw {D: Nanny} came in here yesterday she'd just picked some pretty {D: days.} 364: {NS} Yellow flowers. Interviewer: Okay. Uh It's something a child might play with, what would you call that? 364: Plaything. Interviewer: Okay. Uh is there a different name for something that you'd buy or something that you'd make at home for him to play with? 364: Yeah. Um We we used to use the term store-bought or homemade. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um You'd these are the principle parts of of the verb give you'd say that's the book you? 364: {NW} That's the way {D: that} Interviewer: From give you'd then say that's the book you? 364: #1 You # Interviewer: #2 If I had # given you a book? You'd say that's the book you? 364: You you finished. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 The book you finished. # Interviewer: Alright, that's or or I'll give it back when I'm finished? 364: Yeah. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: And I'll give it back when I'm finished. Interviewer: Uh you say I'm glad I carried my umbrella we hadn't gone half a block when it? 364: Started happening. Interviewer: Mm-kay. {NS} Do you use started to rain or commenced to rain? 364: I use began Interviewer: #1 Began. You don't use any, okay. # 364: #2 I use began to rain. # Interviewer: Uh. You'd I'd say why are you out of breath? And you'd say I? I'm out of breath because I something all the way home. 364: Um. I ran. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: Ran home. Interviewer: Uh if you didn't know where a man was born you might ask where does he? 364: Live. Interviewer: Or wh- well you didn't know where he was born you might ask where does he something from? 364: {NW} Interviewer: {NS} Would you say where does he come from? {NS} 364: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 364: #2 That's what I # where'd he come from? Interviewer: Okay. 364: Yeah that's. Where did he come from? Interviewer: If you can't get through uh the road b- uh you'd say the highway department's got their machines in and the road's all? 364: Blocked. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh the opposite of take it off is? 364: Uh. Patrol. Interviewer: Alright. Now if in-instead of saying take it off, the opposite is? 364: Open it, open Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 364: #2 open it. # Interviewer: Put you ever heard put it on? If you put on your clothes and then take 'em off? 364: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 364: Undress. Interviewer: Okay. 364: Yeah I {NS} Interviewer: Uh {NS} if you're sitting with a friend not saying anything and all of a sudden he asks you what did you say you'd say why I? 364: If you're sitting with a friend? And he didn't say anything? And Interviewer: And you ask him what he said he'd say why I? 364: I haven't said anything. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Then you'd say oh I thought you said? 364: Said something. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} Uh you say well I never heard of? 364: #1 Such. # Interviewer: #2 Such. # Okay. 364: Never heard of such. Interviewer: Uh if you've lived here all your life and somebody asked you have you lived here long you'd answer why I? 364: I've I've been here all my life. I've been here all my life. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh you'd say I got thrown once and I've been scared of horses ever? 364: Since. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Uh it wasn't an accident, he did it? 364: On purpose. Interviewer: Okay. Uh you'd say I don't know you'd better? 364: See him. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 364: #1 Ask him. # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # Alright good. Uh there are two little boys, you'd say those boys sure do like to? 364: Uh fight? Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Uh this kind of drawing out a knife and doing this with it, what do you call that? 364: Drawing? Interviewer: A knife and doing that with it. 364: Stabbing. Interviewer: Okay. Um if you were going to lift something like a piece of machinery up on a roof you might use pulley blocks and a rope to what? 364: Hoist it. Interviewer: Okay good. And that's all the questions that I have to ask you. #1 We can just talk # 364: #2 Well # Interviewer: #1 the rest of the time. # 364: #2 I # Interviewer: {NW} 364: I wish Interviewer: {NW} 364: I lots of #1 {D: last bedtime} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: this morn- No, last night I don't sleep much I didn't {NS} I went to bed by seven oh clock last night and I didn't go to sleep until after twelve. And I thought about always {D: question myself } {D: am I lying to myself.} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 {D: I said always to the man} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 and I had. # Interviewer: {NW} 364: #1 I # Interviewer: #2 {D: He's about to tell all his bad jokes} # Auxiliary: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 but he won't tell 'em to me. # {NW} 364: They're not bad Interviewer: {NW} 364: they're just so uh they're so appropriate and uh {NW} I I uh or gathers questions I I wish I could answer with a joke. {NW} Interviewer: Well I bet Dr. Foster would like to hear those jokes. Auxiliary: He would. 364: Oh. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Often # 364: #2 I I # this yeah. That uh {B} she would have a Interviewer: #1 Yes? # 364: #2 on a date. # Interviewer: #1 # 364: #2 # She I she and uh no, not that the keys weren't but she and uh {NS} Auxiliary: Bill. 364: Bill is a doctor one, Dr Bill Whitaker or Bill uh Auxiliary: #1 Williamson. # 364: #2 Williamson. # Uh we just joke said jokes oh they ain't bad but they #1 you # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {D: bad for} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 jokes. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # I've known Louise all my life. 364: {NW} I I'd tell 'em before some women. {NS} Not uh {NS} all that to them are smutty. But its the way you take. Interviewer: I know it. 364: And the way you think. Auxiliary: {NW} 364: There's that and once I was in school. {NS} I was taking we had a teacher a bus driving teacher he had us all dress similar for a solid week and take driver lessons. And lecture to us. {NW} He got up there the first thing he said he said I've got I've got a question to ask you bus drivers. I wanna see how {D: your frame of mind.} What you're thinking. And how your mind uh reacts. So I don't want you to answer today but before the week's up I'll ask you to answer these questions. And uh he popped the questions everybody in the all of 'em said I know now, I know. {NW} Uh it wasn't smut it was the way you take it. {NW} Interviewer: #1 My husband can't # 364: #2 Uh # Interviewer: tell jokes he just ruins 'em. 364: Can't he? Auxiliary: #1 That's not good. # 364: #2 {NW} # He popped those questions and when they when he'd give the answer to 'em every one of us was surprised. Interviewer: {NW} 364: Just some nice and clean answers but every one of us had {NS} Had a mind all Interviewer: {NW} 364: dirty. {NW} Such as What is a job a man stand up to do and a woman sit down to do? Auxiliary: {NW} Looks like you're asking them. Interviewer: {NW} 364: And oh I know what Interviewer: {NW} 364: {NW} I know now you. {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 Too funny. # 364: {NW} Wh- {NW} What is that uh a woman has only two. And a cow has four? And oh I know. {NS} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # 364: And what he came up with was answers that was altogether different. Interviewer: Well I I've talking about uh my little girl asked me some of those same jokes. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: And I'd forgotten the first one, but the last one I answered what I thought it was and the answer was leg. Auxiliary: #1 Leg. # 364: #2 Leg. # Auxiliary: #1 # 364: #2 # Interviewer: What is it a woman has two of 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 and a cow has four of? # 364: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Is it #1 legs? # 364: #2 Le- # Exactly Interviewer: And I I answered like and my mind was in the wrong Auxiliary: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 place # Auxiliary: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 and my answer was. # Auxiliary: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: Now that #1 {NS} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: that's the way it was #1 {D: I can't hope.} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: {NW} When he'd say that what is {NW} man stand up to do and a woman sit down to do? He said love shake your hand. Shake hands #1 A woman shake # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 a woman said I'll shake your hand # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: #1 and a man stands up. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Auxiliary: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Auxiliary: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 364: {X} Interviewer: Well I missed that one too. {NW} 364: Oh boy we did have some fun over in that thing. {NW} Well all us knew the answer when you popped the #1 question # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: all of us knew that. What is it? Interviewer: You gonna tell us the joke today? {NW} Auxiliary: {D: Take that when you camp and you go.} Interviewer: {NW} Oh. #1 Oh I # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: I'd have missed it too. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: I took uh or Ginger went to see Paper Moon Saturday night. And its the first time she'd ever been to the movie that had an ugly word in it. Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: Uh when I went to pick her up she got in the car and repeated that ugly word to her and I said well that's not the first time you've ever heard it, is it? And she said first time I ever heard it at the picture #1 show. # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {NW} # That was something #1 new right there wasn't it? # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Didn't deny hearing it at all. {NW} Auxiliary: How many children have you? Interviewer: Just one. Auxiliary: {D: Just enough?} Interviewer: Prettiest girl in town. Auxiliary: #1 {NW} # 364: #2 Mm-hmm. # Yeah {B} Oh wow. #1 That's that's good. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 364: She sure has a pretty mother #1 I don't know. # Interviewer: #2 Well thank you. # 364: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 You know # Every mama thinks hers is. 364: Oh yeah. #1 Yeah. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 364: {NS} Uh once my daughter uh she had a she had only one child and and she brought him here. And {NS} Some other woman come up then my wife went out there and she said oh {X} {C: name} come here and look what a pretty child. Oh I ain't gonna. I got a pretty child. {NW} She wouldn't even hear him she wouldn't even look at him. {NW} {NS} Interviewer: My little girl she's gonna be thirteen next month. Auxiliary: {X} 364: Be what? Interviewer: She'll be thirteen years old next month. She's so excited at being a teenager. Auxiliary: I know. {NW} 364: Thirteen? I didn't think I thought that was your age. Interviewer: Oh well I'm just Auxiliary: {NW} Interviewer: I was just six when I had her. {NW} 364: Well I'll declare she sure is a pretty #1 child. # Interviewer: #2 Isn't she pretty? # 364: Thirteen year old {D: a lot not.} Interviewer: That's my good looking husband. 364: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 364: Well I I I I I've I've I must say I've never seen a good looking man. Interviewer: {NW}