Interviewer:  {NS} Alright, let's see. I asked you this yesterday, but I just wanted to make sure I got it on tape since it ran out last time. Say if uh, some- If you were refusing to do something in a strong way, you might say uh. Well, I don't care how many times you ask me to do that I just, Do, it.
387:  Won't do it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. What about this expression. If somebody's asking you advice {NS} or your help uh, might you say something like uh. Well, I might could do that for you. #1 Does that sound acceptable to you? #
387:  #2 Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. # mm-hmm true enough.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. You might say...
387:  Might could help you.
Interviewer:  Might could help you, okay. Alright, change the subject now, talk about uh wild animals. What about a bird around here that uh can see in the dark and makes a hooting noise.
387:  That's an owl.
Interviewer:  Do you know names for different kinds?
387:  Uh, hoot owl and screech owl.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Uh that's about all I know of.
Interviewer:  Alright, fair enough. What about the type of bird that drills holes in trees?
387:  Woodpeckers.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Ever heard people turned that around?
387:  Pecker-wood?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  Yeah, colored folks mostly.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Uh Hardly every any white folks unless they were just guess they were kidding or.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. #1 or imitating #
387:  #2 been read- # or been reading a Mark Twain book or #1 something. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah, yeah. # Have you ever heard a person called a pecker-wood?
387:  Mm, no I don't think I've heard a person.
Interviewer:  Like one person call another person an old pecker wood or something like that.
387:  Mm, no I don't believe so. Now they They're always talking about peckerwood sawmills, if that's a
Interviewer:  What's that?
387:  It's a it's a small sawmill out in the out in the country close to where they're cutting things usually a one or two man operation. It's just a small portable sawmill. There used to be a lot of them in there, there are not too many now. I think it's because it's, I think it's a bunch of hard work in it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  But it's a, it's sort of a portable sawmill that you'll have one or two people making a living out of it. It's not, not on a big scale but that's peckerwood sawmills.
Interviewer:  I see. Okay. And this animal that's black and has a white stripe down its back. It smells pretty bad. {C: loud beep over top of speech}
387:  Oh I suppose that. {NS} Excuse me {D: Yeah?} Yeah, they'll drive you crazy. They'll {NS}
Interviewer:  Are most divorces messy or?
387:  No, most of them, they fight over who's gonna pay for it, that's what they {NW} Most of them ain't got a whole lot to fight over. Well when they got kids they fight #1 You know. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. #
387:  But they u- we u- we get most of them settled eh.
Interviewer:  Hmm.
387:  Folks go a long way towards settling, you know, before they come in.
Interviewer:  Okay, you're telling me about polecats, you have a name for them?
387:  Oh, skunks, yeah. A lot of folks call them polecats round here.
Interviewer:  What about uh animals that are bad about breaking in hen roosts and killing chickens? Do you have one general word that would cover animals like that? #1 {X} #
387:  #2 Mmm, I might # say a varmint.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah, what would #
387:  #2 Mm might would #
Interviewer:  that include? What type of animal?
387:  One that breaking in hen houses would be possums and uh, I think, I think skunks do, polecats, but I'm not sure about that, but possums are bad about it.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  And minks are If they're in you know, if there are any. I don't know if there are many around here now. {NS} Excuse me. {NS} {D: Hello?} {NS} Is it, is it running?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  I'm trying think of something else that.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  {X} Ah. {NS} Weasels I think, break in there too. I think that includes weasels.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  And uh.
Interviewer:  Could you consider a fox a varmint?
387:  {NS} Yeah, yeah, I think so. Excuse me. {NS} Hello?
Interviewer:  {NS} Hey
387:  {NS} Yeah, foxes, I hadn't thought I hadn't even thought about foxes. Ah I tell you that's about all you I believe you ever hear of catching chickens.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, okay. What about different types of squirrels you got around here?
387:  Only types I know of You got regular gray squirrels and fox squirrels or
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  They're the they're the big red ones.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. The fox squirrels are? #
387:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  Okay. Do you have a little animal around here that looks a little bit like a squirrel but it's smaller and doesn't have a big, bushy tail and it stays on the ground most of the time.
387:  Probably chipmunk. #1 Is that what you're referring to? #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah, yeah #
387:  Chipmunks #1 yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 You see those around here? #
387:  Oh yeah bunch of them.
Interviewer:  Alright you care about anything like fishing?
387:  Oh yeah. I like to go fishing.
Interviewer:  What kinds of fish, uh, freshwater fish do you catch around here?
387:  Bream and bass and catfish {D: about let's see} Crawfish, I catch crawfish.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Mm. That's pretty much the
Interviewer:  Mm
387:  range I think.
Interviewer:  Ever hear people around here use the word bluegill?
387:  Yeah, that's that's synonymous with bream. I think really I think really bream is sort of a uh the the catch-all term It's a, it's a It's a panfish and bream include both the bluegill and then there's another one they call uh they call shellcrackers.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
387:  #2 It's # It, they're, they're larger and behind the bluegill there's a little yellow
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  or orange thing there And sometime I think in the magazines they talk of those being Red Ear Sunfish #1 but #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
387:  But they're, around here they call them shellcrackers and they're a little bit bigger than uh
Interviewer:  Uh huh
387:  than uh regular uh bluegills and they but they call all that bream. #1 {D: and so} #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. # What about different types of seafood that you can get around here?
387:  Oh you can get anything in the grocery store, just shrimp and
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
387:  Uh and all sorts of fish which Flounder, mackerel
Interviewer:  What about those things that you eat on half-shells?
387:  Oysters?
Interviewer:  Yes okay.
387:  Oh yeah. I love those. {NW}
Interviewer:  {D: What are the} You like them fried or raw?
387:  I like them raw. You like them?
Interviewer:  Yeah I've eaten them both ways, I guess I prefer fried but they're okay.
387:  I'm I'm crazy about catfish. #1 Oh do you like any of it? #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah, yeah # Yeah I like catfish too, they Mess up your tackle box.
387:  Yeah
Interviewer:  You have to get down and shove a pair of pliers halfway down their throat.
387:  You have to be careful they can get you.
Interviewer:  Yeah I know.
387:  But you know these folks around here they they they Some people, a lot of people fish for them commercially with trotlines and baskets And you won't believe how quick they can clean them I mean you just, I mean it's, it's just like an assembly line, oh they can clean one in They can clean one, easy in a minute, so it's, you know, so it's.
Interviewer:  Gotta be specialized kind of a like it look like pliers you know, you just grab those
387:  Yeah they're pinchers and they pull them {X} They might have one fellow that's, that's uh you know splitting them open and one that's skinning them and up, but Aw man, they can
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  #1 They can go on #
Interviewer:  #2 Assembly line. #
387:  #1 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah # Okay What about these animals that make a croaking noise inside or around water around ponds?
387:  That's frogs.
Interviewer:  Yeah different kinds around here?
387:  Only kind I know of is bullfrogs and then they have toads which uh uh they tell me aren't really frogs You find them everywhere, but
Interviewer:  Mm
387:  they're not so much around water I don't think you?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm always find them in your yard you can walk out at night and You ever seen little old {D: tail} that don't get much bigger than this?
387:  When it's grown?
Interviewer:  Yeah A lot of people say they come out after a big rain Some people actually say that
387:  They fall?
Interviewer:  Yeah
387:  No I've heard that but I never have seen any of those. I've heard, I've even heard folks say little fish fell outta the sky #1 but #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
387:  little minnows but #1 I #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
387:  I never have seen that. #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
387:  But folks, some folks swear that they've seen them I've
Interviewer:  Mm
387:  talked to people that did but I never much believed them.
Interviewer:  What do they call them? Is it spring frogs or tree frogs or rain frogs?
387:  I've heard them called spring frogs but I don't, like I say I Uh You know. I always doubt it if there were any.
Interviewer:  Okay What about uh, if you were going fishing around here what would would you dig up for the bait?
387:  Worms.
Interviewer:  Any special names for ones that you use?
387:  Uh They'd just be earthworms here. Some people call them nightcrawlers
Interviewer:  yeah
387:  because they find them at night without having to dig #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm # Okay And this is now has a hard shell and he can pull his head and legs out if he wants to.
387:  Oh, a turtle.
Interviewer:  Yeah, what about different kinds of those?
387:  Most around here The ones in the water would of course I guess they're turtles and the ones on the land are u- are you know, are usually terrapins. I don't really know the difference in them but there a lot of snapping turtles around here that are have a big, old long neck and a long tail and they oh they grow to be big usually {NS}
Interviewer:  Uh we were talking about turtles You ever heard of a big dry land turtle around here that would burrow in the ground?
387:  Mm, no I never have well
Interviewer:  You ever heard one called a gopher or a cooter in this part of
387:  heard of cooters but I never knew exactly which ones were cooters mm
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  {NW} I never have heard of one called a gopher I don't believe.
Interviewer:  Okay What about this little animal looks kinda like a lobster has little claws and you find it in freshwater streams.
387:  Oh yeah. {NS} Excuse me. Okay. {X} That's a crawfish.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. Going to ask you about quite a few insects uh These insects, you know you see at night They just fly around lights Go round and round. Do you know the names of those?
387:  Just light bugs.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Do you ever heard of candle flies?
387:  {NW} Yeah I've heard that. I never knew exactly which ones were candle flies and which ones But I've heard candle fly.
Interviewer:  Alright What about this insect that gets bad about getting in your clothes and eating holes in them?
387:  That's moths.
Interviewer:  Okay, and just one would be a
387:  Moth.
Interviewer:  Okay, and these are insects that fly around at night and blink on and off?
387:  That's lightning bugs.
Interviewer:  Okay What about one that's uh oh, it's a long thin-bodied insect and it has transparent wings. Usually, you see them around lakes, they alight on your fishing pole and
387:  That's dragonflies.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Any other words you use around here for them?
387:  Mm None that I can recall.
Interviewer:  Okay, what about snake doctor? Mosquito hawk? #1 {X} #
387:  #2 I've heard of snake # doctor
Interviewer:  Have you?
387:  Mm-hmm sure have. But I had forgotten about that, that's when I was a kid.
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  But I've heard of m- of snake #1 doctor. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh # alright. What about insects around here that sting you?
387:  Wasp. Bees but they're not as bad as wasps.
Interviewer:  You have ones that builds gray big old paper net that's got a really vicious sting?
387:  Yeah those are hornets.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  But I don't I don't think I'd know a hornet if I saw one but I've seen the nests.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  several times. I've s- you know or
Interviewer:  I don't think I've actually seen the insect either, I don't think I have
387:  {NS} I don't know that I'd recognize one #1 but you know. #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah # Right Do you have a stinging insect around here that builds its nest in the ground and it'll swarm on you?
387:  That's yellow #1 jackets. #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah. #
387:  I s- I think they're sort of a form of wasp but they're
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  they're pretty vicious #1 too. #
Interviewer:  #2 Right okay. # And these insects are real common these days just nuisance you know
387:  Mosquitoes
Interviewer:  Yeah all over the place. What about an insect that builds its nest up looks like mud You know, on the side of your house.
387:  That's dirt daubers.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. As far as you know, do they sting?
387:  As far as I know, they don't.
Interviewer:  Right. And these little insects are bad about burrowing up under your skin. Making your skin itch. You get them if you walk barefoot.
387:  Oh, that's red #1 bugs. #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah # right. Have you heard any other names for them?
387:  Heard them called chiggers.
Interviewer:  Alrighty. What about different types of snakes you find around here?
387:  Oh gosh there are a million kinds of snakes.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  The poisonous ones would include rattlesnakes and there are several different varieties of those and
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Uh copperheads and water moccasins and uh coral snakes I don't know if they ever if there are ever any around here. I've heard people claim there were but I doubt it that there were really were coral snakes.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  I think there's several that look like them.
Interviewer:  Pretty deadly aren't they?
387:  They say that they are, they're pretty poisonous. They're I I don't as opposed to being deadly. They have a hard time biting you. I think they actually have to chew on you. #1 I don't think they have any fangs. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
387:  Yeah, and it's I I've never I've never heard anybody I much believed.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  #1 Seen one around here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yup # I've just heard that they attack the nervous system.
387:  I think there's some ki- I think the poison's different from other poisons. I'm not really sure about it but that's Yeah, they're pretty uh, they're pretty bad news.
Interviewer:  Yeah, okay What about an insect that you'd see hopping around your front yard some are black some are green.
387:  Grasshoppers.
Interviewer:  Yeah. We were talking about woodpecker peckerwood. Have you ever heard of that kind of
387:  Hoppergrass?
Interviewer:  Yeah
387:  Yeah {X} black folks.
Interviewer:  Mm
387:  that's you don't hear many white people call them that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, right. I asked you about what you would use for bait when you fish and you said worms. Any type of little fish that you might use?
387:  Minnows yeah yeah
Interviewer:  All right. All right. Just for pronunciation. The part of the tree that grows underground You'd call that
387:  Roots.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Have you ever heard of people talking about home remedies uh that they might use they might make out of roots or herbs or stuff like that.
387:  Yeah a little bit. Not uh I don't really know any specifically I don't think but uh yeah I've heard people.
Interviewer:  You've ever heard of mullein tea or uh stuff like that? #1 Sassafras tea? #
387:  #2 Heard of sassafras # tea.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  I've had some of that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What was it given for? Any idea?
387:  Oh, it was just a beverage. #1 Nothing #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  #1 Not a not a #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah #
387:  remedy that I remember for anything. I remember my grandmother made sassafras #1 tea but I don't #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  remember making it to cure any #1 thing. I think just #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
387:  to drink it. #1 It's #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm #
387:  pretty good it's
Interviewer:  Okay What about the type of uh What are some of the trees that grow around here?
387:  Oh goodness Oak trees and pine trees, of course.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Hickory trees. Uh aw just all sorts of trees. Course we got little tree dogwoods and that kind of thing. There are elm trees and
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  uh sweetgum trees and Course I mentioned hickory trees. {NW} Oh let's see there.
Interviewer:  You have this tree, it's the state tree of Mississippi It's got those broad green, shiny leaves and
387:  Magnolia?
Interviewer:  Yeah
387:  Oh yeah, got a magnolia tree in my yard.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about one that's just real messy tree? It's got scaly bark and these little brown knots and balls on it, it sheds all over the place.
387:  I've yeah I don't know what kind those are though. They're they're around here though.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, okay, this is just a pronunciation. It begins with an S, S-Y-C-
387:  Sycamore?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  Yeah, they have sycamore trees. They're not I don't think there's as many as there used to be. But yeah, oh yeah, they got sycamore trees.
Interviewer:  All right. And the type of trees that uh Washington was supposed to cut down. #1 {X} #
387:  #2 Cherry tree. #
Interviewer:  Yeah, all right. You ever heard of any kind of bush around here with red berries that people might call either a sumac or shoe-make?
387:  Yeah, I've heard of sumacs, but I, I don't know exactly which I think I might could recognize it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Some of them they claim are poison and others
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  {D: Unless they are} #1 and I'm not really #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm #
387:  I'm not really sure about that.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about the stuff that uh you know, if you get into it, it'll make your skin break out and itch?
387:  {NS} Excuse me. {NS}
Interviewer:  Mm-kay, I was asking about the stuff you get in to make your skin
387:  Oh yeah Poison oak or poison ivy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, are those two different?
387:  Yeah, I think they are.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  But I don't know the difference in them. I I never have caught that in my life.
Interviewer:  Really?
387:  I guess I'm immune to it, but I got a twin sister that I don't think she's bad as she used to be, but aw man when we were kids, she'd have to go to the doctor it'd be so bad. Just. #1 Walk by they say #
Interviewer:  #2 Break out just look at it, yeah. #
387:  You hear all these tales about folks that that are so susceptible to it, that they can walk by it and
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  And I've heard of tales where folks were cleaning off land and burning it that people breathe the smoke and caught it in their lungs and Had a terrible time. I don't know if that's so #1 or not I never have #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
387:  seen anybody.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  #1 But I've heard #
Interviewer:  #2 It'd be interesting. #
387:  But I think there is a difference But I don't know how, I don't know how to.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Yeah.
387:  But it irritates your skin.
Interviewer:  Yeah, right. Same with me. Okay, what about different types of berries around here?
387:  Mm got blackberries and or strawberries. I don't know that strawberries grow wild, blackberries grow wild and they're they uh some people around here grow blueberries they they cultivate them but then I don't know anybody that's ever had much luck with them.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
387:  And they grow, let's see, huckleberries grow wild. I don't know if any that I I think some folks call huckleberries different things #1 but I don't know #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  I don't know what. Ah, lemme think. Trying think of other berries but I don't know.
Interviewer:  #1 What about raspberries? #
387:  #2 {NW} # I never have heard of any raspberries growing #1 around here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. # Alrighty. Uh, have you ever heard of any flowering shrub called either laurel or rhododendron?
387:  I've heard of it but I don't know. You know. I always think of that as being more in the mountains.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  But I it I don't e- I've heard of it but I don't even know if it grows around here or not.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Tell me which, which of those terms have you heard?
387:  Laurel, mostly.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. All right, I'm gonna ask you
387:  I've heard of them both, but I didn't realize they were the same thing. {NS}
Interviewer:  Okay, I'm going to ask you a few things of the family. Say uh, a married woman if she doesn't wanna make up her mind by herself She'd say well, I'd have to ask
387:  My husband.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about a married man that he didn't want to make up his mind. He'd say I'm going to have to ask
387:  #1 My wife. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. # Any other ways of saying husband or wife joking or uh
387:  Around here? Of course some are joking but a lot of folks refer to their spouse as their old lady or their old man.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  And occasionally, my better half, but #1 you #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
387:  that'd be mostly older #1 folks I think. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. #
387:  The the old lady and the old man's quite common, it's...
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Uh
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  You hear that everyday.
Interviewer:  Right. What about a woman whose husband
387:  Oh y- I might a- Usually, it's not my old lady it's the old lady.
Interviewer:  Either way, yeah.
387:  But uh, but women, I think always talk about my old man. They don't say the old man. But the
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  but men seem to say the old lady.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Whatever that's worth. {NW}
Interviewer:  Sure, okay. What about a woman whose husband has died, you'd say she's a
387:  Widow.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Now have you ever heard the woman called anything if her husband hasn't died, he's just left her?
387:  Grass widow.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  But I always think of a grass widow as being a divorcee. Uh rather, you know, as opposed to being just le- just #1 separated. #
Interviewer:  #2 I see. # I see, okay. All right, the man who raised you, that's your
387:  Father.
Interviewer:  And the woman who raised you is your
387:  Mother.
Interviewer:  What did you call your parents when you were growing up?
387:  Daddy and Momma
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. And your mother and your father together, they're your
387:  Parents.
Interviewer:  All right, and your father's father is your
387:  Grandfather.
Interviewer:  And his wife would be your
387:  Grandmother.
Interviewer:  What did you call them?
387:  Called them Granny and Papaw.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. On both sides?
387:  Mm-hmm. Both sides, that's right.
Interviewer:  And a man's sons and his daughters are his.
387:  Children.
Interviewer:  Okay, other words for them?
387:  Kids. Young ones is pretty common around here.
Interviewer:  Okay What about uh say a child's given a name that he's known by Mostly within his family though it's not his real name, you'd say he has a
387:  Nickname.
Interviewer:  Yeah. You have a nickname?
387:  Yeah, they call me Bubba. {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh, okay. What about uh A vehicle with wheels you know, that you can put a baby in and move them around. Maybe take him outside?
387:  Oh baby buggy?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What would you say you're gonna do, uh like I think I'm gonna put the {NS}
387:  Excuse me {NS} Talk for an hour.
Interviewer:  It's a busy morning.
387:  Yeah, doesn't want anything.
Interviewer:  {NW} Okay, Uh, yeah, I was asking you You might say I'm gonna put the #1 baby in the #
387:  #2 oh #
Interviewer:  carriage and go out #1 and do #
387:  #2 Yeah, I think # I think uh stroll the baby or walk the baby.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Mm-kay. And a man might have a, a man's children might be his sons and his
387:  Daughters.
Interviewer:  Yeah or his boys and his
387:  #1 Girls. #
Interviewer:  #2 All right. # What about a woman who's expecting a child, you say she's what?
387:  Pregnant.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Any other way of saying that?
387:  Expecting. #1 uh #
Interviewer:  #2 okay # Did anybody ever tell you that pregnant was not a polite word to use?
387:  No.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard that, maybe years ago, people would avoid saying the word?
387:  Mm. No, I don't think so.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. You ever heard the expression "She's in the family way"?
387:  Yeah, mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  It would-
387:  In I in a family way, I don't know if that
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Would older people or you think
387:  I think older folks would would do that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Would you still feel like you'd hear that you think? Occasionally?
387:  You would on older folks I think #1 maybe #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
387:  occasionally. But not not very often, but occasionally you would I think.
Interviewer:  All right. And if a doctor's not available, the woman that you would send for to help with the delivery.
387:  A midwife.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Any other names for her you heard?
387:  Mm No #1 I don't think so. #
Interviewer:  #2 It's not your granny # or granny woman?
387:  I think I have heard granny woman.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  They don't, I don't even know if there are any midwives around here. I think there might be one #1 or something #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
387:  but they're
Interviewer:  Do those people have to be licensed #1 and everything? #
387:  #2 Yeah I think # the health department licenses them, you know, licenses them. I think it's sort of a dying art, I think #1 the ones that #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
387:  do it die out and nobody else knows how to
Interviewer:  All right, this expression, say if a boy has the same color hair and eyes as his father, you'd say that the boy.
387:  Looks like his father or takes after his father.
Interviewer:  Right. What would you say if the boy has inherited his father's bad habits? You'd say he
387:  Got them honest probably.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Could you use that expression "takes after" to mean that, that he got his father's bad habits?
387:  I think you would I think I think I thought I think uh takes after would would be more referring to habits than it would looking like #1 somebody. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm #
387:  I think that would be the
Interviewer:  But you could still possible use it to {NS} Indicate that they're, they look
387:  #1 Yeah I think so #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
387:  I think so.
Interviewer:  All right. All right, say a, talk about a child who's been misbehaving, mother might tell him, well you do that one more time, I'm gonna give you a good
387:  Whipping.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
387:  #2 Switching. # Or whoopings. #1 Common round here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. # {NS} All right, the verb grow, you might say of a boy who's grown about an inch in a year, you could almost see him
387:  Growing
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, or he, what? An inch in a year?
387:  Grew.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Yeah, he certainly has
387:  Grown.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about a child who's born to an unmarried woman, what would people around here refer to him as?
387:  Probably a bastard.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm #
387:  #2 {X} # I think they'd, you know They'd never call him that I don't #1 think. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. # What what do you think about that word? Is it a word that people throw about loosely or is it considered something a strong thing to say?
387:  That's a pretty strong thing to say, I mean I think that's a, that's what folks would be when they were cussing #1 you know it's a #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm # {X} Although they might use bastard as just as a curse word.
387:  Oh yeah #1 quite a bit I think #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm #
387:  #1 and uh. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  Yeah, I think so.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about uh a milder way of putting it if you were Didn't want to, offend anybody by using a word
387:  Then they'd say hadn't got a daddy or something like #1 that I think. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. # Would they ever say he's illegitimate?
387:  Not very often, I don't think. That's sort of reserved for lawyers and st- that's what #1 lawyers would say. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
387:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Alrighty, say if I have a brother, and he has a son, that son would be my.
387:  Brother. Now w- you said #1 I'm #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah # My brother has a son. So his son would be what?
387:  Oh he'd be your nephew.
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  I'm sorry I
Interviewer:  And a child who's lost both of his parents would be an.
387:  Orphan.
Interviewer:  Okay, the adult who's appointed to look after him would be his.
387:  Guardian.
Interviewer:  Okay. And oh, say the house were full of people like your cousins and your uncles and your aunts, you'd say the house full of your
387:  Relatives
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
387:  kin folks.
Interviewer:  Okay. Do you ever hear the word people used that way? The house is, now all that people are coming to see me?
387:  Yeah, but I think of people, and I think people are used more As a, as uh The immediate family.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  But yeah, that's quite common. I think of who are his people his meaning who are his mom and #1 daddy and #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm #
387:  #1 brother and sister more. #
Interviewer:  #2 Right. # Okay
387:  It's a But yeah, that's #1 quite common #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm # okay
387:  around here.
Interviewer:  Alright, this expression, if somebody is telling you about somebody who looks like you, you might say well that may, that may be true but actually I'm no
387:  Kin to her
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And somebody who comes to town, nobody's ever seen him before, you call him
387:  Stranger.
Interviewer:  Right, and if he's from another country, you'd call him a
387:  Foreigner.
Interviewer:  People round here ever use the word foreigner even though the person's not from another country?
387:  Uh. If they did, it'd be in a joking #1 sort of way. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  Yeah, they'd probably call northerners foreigners #1 just teasing them. #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh # Okay. Alright, I'm gonna ask you some proper names just for pronunciation. A girl, first name, begins with the letter M uh, the mother of Jesus was.
387:  Mary.
Interviewer:  Okay. And George Washington's wife was.
387:  Mary. Oh, Martha.
Interviewer:  Okay. #1 And what about #
387:  #2 Wrong history #
Interviewer:  {NS} What about uh a woman's name that begins with an N first name.
387:  Nancy.
Interviewer:  Close uh, I think this is, I always tell people this is short for Helen but that's not very productive. Uh, there's a song that goes wait till the sun shines.
387:  Nelly.
Interviewer:  Oh you know that.
387:  Oh yeah. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Terrific # Alright. What about a boy's name that begins with a B? Uh, short for William.
387:  Bill.
Interviewer:  And the diminutive of that would be, just tack on a Y and that would be.
387:  Billy.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh. A man's name begins with an M, Matt would be short for.
387:  Matthew.
Interviewer:  Okay and in the Bible, Abraham's wife was Begins with an S.
387:  I don't know
Interviewer:  Okay, let's see. There are these frozen cakes that you get. They're blank Lee cakes.
387:  Sara.
Interviewer:  Yeah, there you go. What would you call a woman who teaches school, she would just be a
387:  School teacher.
Interviewer:  Alright. Have you ever knew, ever heard the old fashioned names for woman school teachers?
387:  Schoolmarm.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah, you ever hear that? #
387:  #2 But I've never heard anybody use that. #
Interviewer:  #1 Maybe it's something {X} #
387:  #2 Except on television. Yeah, on television. #
Interviewer:  {NW}
387:  I've never heard anybody
Interviewer:  Ah. How would you say the proper name, the last name C-O-O-P-E-R?
387:  Cooper.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  Or Cooper.
Interviewer:  Alright. Should I talk about.
387:  Cooper, I think mostly what I'd say.
Interviewer:  Alright. A married woman who has that last name, you'd say there goes
387:  Miss Cooper.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. This situation, this person, so talking about a preacher who's really not trained to be a preacher. Does something else for a living, most importantly, he's really not very good at preaching. have you ever heard him called a
387:  Jackleg.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Uh-huh.
387:  Yeah, jackleg preacher.
Interviewer:  Can you have a jackleg anything else?
387:  Yeah. I think jackleg got a lot of jackleg carpenters #1 around and #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  brick layers and I think, oh yeah, I don't think it just refers to preachers.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  But I think you hear it more talking about jackleg preachers than you do Anything else.
Interviewer:  Would it be possible to have a jackleg while you're a doctor?
387:  Yeah, I think it would be. You don't hear it as much cause you know folks you know. {NW} #1 The the reason you. #
Interviewer:  #2 Guess most lawyers are formally trained to be lawyers. #
387:  Yeah, oh they are but the reason is because that's something that you have to have a license #1 to do. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah # Yeah.
387:  If it wasn't for that, there'd be plenty of
Interviewer:  Mm
387:  They'd uh And and you know, a lot of times now you just hear it by itself. He's a jackleg.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Course I think when they somebody says that they're, you know, they've gotten {D: mine maybe}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about a mechanic who uh kind of does it on the side?
387:  Mm he'd be a shade tree #1 mechanic. #
Interviewer:  #2 Shade tree mechanic okay. # What relation would my mother's sister be to me? She would be
387:  Your aunt.
Interviewer:  Okay. And this is just for pronunciation, if I had to, if my brother, if my father. Had a brother named William, I'd call him my
387:  Uncle.
Interviewer:  Whole name would be.
387:  Uncle Bill or Uncle William.
Interviewer:  Okay, if I had one named John, he'd be
387:  Uncle John.
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  Mostly I, I never referred to my uncles as uncle, I just #1 called them by their #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  first name.
Interviewer:  Is that right?
387:  But a lot of folks do, I don't, probably half and #1 half I guess #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  But #1 I think #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah #
387:  I don't think people do that as much as maybe as they used to.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. Around here, how do people refer to the, the war between the northern and the southern states?
387:  The Civil War.
Interviewer:  Okay. And in the Civil War, Robert E. Lee, do you remember what his rank was?
387:  He was general.
Interviewer:  Okay. And his fellow who uh, started Kentucky Fried Chicken, he's the
387:  Colonel.
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What about a man who was in charge of the ship, he would be the
387:  Captain.
Interviewer:  Alright and the man who presides over the county court would be a
387:  Judge.
Interviewer:  Okay. And someone in school is a #1 {X} #
387:  #2 Stu- # Student.
Interviewer:  Yeah, that's what I was trying And the woman out front who types and files for you is a
387:  Secretary.
Interviewer:  Alright, what about a woman who appears on stage or in a movie, she would be
387:  Actress.
Interviewer:  Alright. And our nationality, we're not Germans, but we're
387:  Americans.
Interviewer:  Alright. Around here, well let me put it this way uh Not too long ago, there were separate facilities in the South bathroom, restaurant, all that. One for the, and one for the
387:  Blacks and one for the whites.
Interviewer:  Right. Now as far as you know, is that the term that blacks prefer nowadays around here? Black?
387:  I think well that would be probably the one they'd prefer.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What other terms have you heard used?
387:  Colored. 'Course around here, folks refer to them as niggers #1 I mean it's #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm #
387:  #1 real common it's #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
387:  I think that's gotten to be more of a derogatory term.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  But uh Lot of them resent it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  I think. But uh But I think they'd prefer black.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Around here nowadays when, when somebody says Nigger Is it necessarily insulting or is that just a They're using it neutrally?
387:  No, they're just using it. They're n- I don't think they mean it to insult.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm #
387:  #2 It's just what # they've heard.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  But I think the black folks you know. It ins- it in- you know. It's an insult to them but I don't No, I don't think folks mean to insult them at all.
Interviewer:  What about negro?
387:  Just never really hear that. Unless you're unless you're uh You know. Talking to some of them.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  And they-
Interviewer:  What- what about the pronunciation Negro?
387:  Negro's what folks would say here.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, yeah, okay. maybe uh joking or uh insulting uh. Ways of referring to white people, you've heard?
387:  {NW} Yeah, when I was a kid, we'd go to show they'd {D: hump throw us off the balcony} #1 balcony and call us snowballs. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # Snowballs?
387:  And I think, I think now I think that's what a honky is, but I'm not sure about that, that's
Interviewer:  It's a, it's an insulting?
387:  I think it's an insulting term for white people Or or white trash is it.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  But, but white folks use that as much as anybody.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Mm-kay. What did, did you ever hear the term redneck?
387:  Yeah uh. I don't think that, I think that's something that that white people use more than anybody else.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  And it's uh, you know talking about I think it sort of refers to folks being country
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  That sort of thing
Interviewer:  They would be called
387:  Rednecks.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Okay. What about a child who's born to racially mixed parents? That's uh, one, yeah, one black, one white parent, what would you call that?
387:  Mm. I can't think of anything.
Interviewer:  If you had to refer to him in conversation, what would you say? Or would you just describe the situation?
387:  I think I'd describe it. I can't think of any term that would describe it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Do you have a word mulatto?
387:  Yeah, but you'd never hear that. #1 Mm-mm #
Interviewer:  #2 Don't hear that around here. Okay. # Have you ever head any ways of uh describing blacks with especially light colored skin?
387:  Yeah, high yellow.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  Mm-hmm, that's that would refer to them.
Interviewer:  Right. You ever head the word bright used that way?
387:  Mm no, I don't think I have.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about a working class white man talking about the man he works for, He's say, that's my
387:  Boss, or boss man. {C: static crackling}
Interviewer:  Would a black man be likely to say the same thing? Talking about the man he works for?
387:  He, yeah. Or the he might just call him the man.
Interviewer:  The man?
387:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about, uh. People from the country you know, sometimes when they come to town uh, Where I'm from, a lot of 'em come to town on Saturday mornings to do their business or whatever and a lot of times the city folks would kinda poke fun at 'em. And might, behind their backs say, look at him, he's just an old
387:  You talking about a-a nigger? {X} #1 You talking about a #
Interviewer:  #2 Not necessarily a black # Just, it might be a white person from the country. You know, just from way out.
387:  Hayseed, maybe
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  What they might call him hayseed.
Interviewer:  Yeah. I'm talking about, you know, somebody who kind of stands out. You can uh, tell by looking at him that he's from the country.
387:  I might just say he's country.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  I can't think of anything.
Interviewer:  Hick? He's a,
387:  Oh yeah. Yeah, they'd call him a hick. Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah, that's quite common.
Interviewer:  Ever heard of the word Hoosier used that way around here?
387:  #1 Never do hear that here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Never hear hoosier? #
387:  Never do hear that here. Well I never.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Alrighty. Uh, I'm gonna ask you about a few parts of the body just for pronunciation. What would be called this part right here?
387:  Forehead.
Interviewer:  Alright, and this is my
387:  Hair.
Interviewer:  And if I let this grow out, I'm growing a
387:  Beard.
Interviewer:  Alright, and this is my
387:  Ear.
Interviewer:  Which one is it?
387:  That's your right ear.
Interviewer:  And that's my
387:  Left ear.
Interviewer:  Alright, and this is my
387:  Mouth.
Interviewer:  Alright, someone might fall and break his
387:  Neck.
Interviewer:  And might swallow and get something stuck in his
387:  Throat.
Interviewer:  This part right here, you can see on some people
387:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What would you call that?
387:  Adam's apple.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard any other names for it?
387:  Mm Nope. I don't think so.
Interviewer:  Does the word goozle mean anything to you?
387:  I think a goozle is {D: being} the throat. Inside the throat.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. But not the Adam's Apple.
387:  I don't believe so.
Interviewer:  Mm
387:  But I've heard that then, but not not in a long time.
Interviewer:  Okay. And all these are my
387:  Teeth
Interviewer:  And just one would be a
387:  Tooth
Interviewer:  And that fleshy part is the
387:  Gum.
Interviewer:  Alright, and this is my
387:  Hand.
Interviewer:  Have two
387:  Hands.
Interviewer:  And this part right here is the
387:  Palm.
Interviewer:  And make a
387:  Fist.
Interviewer:  You got two
387:  Fists.
Interviewer:  What would you call a place where two bones meet, that would be a
387:  Joint.
Interviewer:  Alright, and the upper part of a man's body is his
387:  Chest.
Interviewer:  And he has broad
387:  Shoulders
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh, well you can't see it but this is my right
387:  Leg
Interviewer:  Okay and the end of it is my
387:  Foot
Interviewer:  And I have two
387:  Feet.
Interviewer:  Okay, what about that uh Bone right at the front Uh of your leg Sometimes you stumble and bump
387:  Oh your shin.
Interviewer:  Yeah mm-hmm okay. What about the part that runs from uh, your rear end about down to your knee, the backside?
387:  Might your thigh
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. You ever heard uh, well, What would you say Johnny Bench is doing you know when he assumes a position when he's going to
387:  he's catching
Interviewer:  Yeah. But what he's doing, what.
387:  Oh he's squatting.
Interviewer:  Yeah. You ever heard any other expression like For squatting? Like uh, hunker down? That mean anything to you?
387:  I've heard of hunker down, but I always think of hunker down as being sitting at the table and really eating a lot of food.
Interviewer:  Oh okay. {NW} #1 Getting down really hard. #
387:  #2 We really hunkered down, yeah. #
Interviewer:  Okay. Have you ever heard that part of the body that you call the thigh as called the hunkers or haunches?
387:  Heard them called haunches but I always thought of it as being being uh A corresponding part on animals rather than people.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. Alright, this expression, if somebody's been sick for a while You might say about them well uh So-and-so's up and around now but he still looks a little.
387:  Pale Or peaked
Interviewer:  Okay. What about a man who can lift a heavy weight, you say he's mighty.
387:  Strong.
Interviewer:  Alright, and somebody who always has a smile on his face and never gets angry you say he's mighty.
387:  Cheerful
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
387:  Happy.
Interviewer:  Good nature do that?
387:  Good natured, yeah that's real common.
Interviewer:  Okay, at a boy, whose reached a certain age where he's And he always runs into things and trips and uh falls over his own feet.
387:  Just clumsy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. A person who just keeps on doing things that don't make any sense. You'd say he's just a plain
387:  Nut, I guess.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay, what about the word fool? Would that do there?
387:  It it would do but I don't think it's that common.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. You don't hear people say it #1 that much? #
387:  #2 Not much # I always think of that as being More derogatory than crazy #1 and folks #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
387:  just don't
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
387:  Use it that much I don't think, it's not unheard of course.
Interviewer:  Would it, would it not be used because it's a very strong thing to say?
387:  I don't think it's stronger than crazy. But I think it's just more derogatory.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Have you ever heard some people say that there's something in the bible against using that word?
387:  Yeah. I have.
Interviewer:  Okay. A person who has a lot of money but he doesn't like to spend it, you'd say he's a
387:  He's just tight.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Or a tight one.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Okay.
387:  But tight I think's #1 more #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah #
387:  You know.
Interviewer:  So-and-so is pretty tight?
387:  Yeah, more prevalent around here.
Interviewer:  {X} If I said this about a girl uh She's just as common as she could be, what would that mean to you? Use of that word common?
387:  Uh. Crude and uh Ill-mannered.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay so it's definitely not a complementary thing to say.
387:  No. {X} Can I get another cup of coffee right quick? {NS}
Interviewer:  Okay. What about an older person, maybe in his nineties Who {NS} can still you know Take care of himself pretty well Get around alright?
387:  Gets around good.
Interviewer:  You'd say uh Well I don't care how old he is, he's still mighty
387:  Mighty spry.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. And uh, this situation Talking about a child who doesn't want to go upstairs in the dark, you say he's
387:  Scared of the dark, or afraid of the dark.
Interviewer:  Do you have any names, or have you heard any names to describe a child who uh frightens easily?
387:  Scaredy cat.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. And uh this uh phrase The old gray mare, she ain't what she
387:  Used to be.
Interviewer:  Okay. How would you use the negative of that phrase, used to be? Like in this situation, you might say well I don't understand why she's afraid now, she
387:  Didn't used to be.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. Alright, talking about a fellow who leaves a lot of money lying around in plain sight, leaves his doors unlocked, you'd say he sure is mighty
387:  Mighty trusting, I guess.
Interviewer:  Okay, or he's not very, he's not careful he's
387:  Careless
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Alright. Say I start talking about a relative of mine I might say well, There's nothing really wrong with aunt so-and-so It's just every now and then, she acts kind of
387:  Kind of funny.
Interviewer:  Yeah. What about the word queer there? Would that do in that context?
387:  #1 No, that wouldn't there. #
Interviewer:  #2 She acts kind of queer? #
387:  No I don't think so.
Interviewer:  Okay
387:  You hear that sometimes among old folks. Or from old folks, but that'd be the only time.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  I think otherwise, you know it's gotten to where it refers to being homosexual and you know, folks just wouldn't use it much.
Interviewer:  Yeah, and the word is
387:  Queer.
Interviewer:  Yeah, okay. Alrighty, talking about a person who uh makes up his mind about something And refuses to change it regardless, you'd say he's awfully.
387:  Set in his ways.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Okay. What about somebody you just can't joke without losing his temper, you'd say he's mighty.
387:  Fractious
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright.
387:  Or can't take a joke.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh talking about somebody like that, you might say well I was just kidding, I didn't know he was going to get.
387:  I didn't know he was gonna get mad. But they are- sometimes people refer to them as being all business.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, yeah. Thin-skinned?
387:  Yeah, occasionally thin-skinned.
Interviewer:  Or touchy?
387:  Touchy, yeah I think.
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  Didn't think about those.
Interviewer:  Somebody who's about to lose his temper, and you don't want him to, you might try to uh, avoid it by telling him, now just
387:  Calm down.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay And at the end of the day if you've been working hard, you'd say you're very
387:  Tired.
Interviewer:  Okay, what about an extreme case of it, I'm just all
387:  Worn out.
Interviewer:  Okay, you ever, you ever heard pooped or
387:  Yeah, I've I've heard that
Interviewer:  Shot?
387:  I I think shot is being more like somebody being drunk.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay Alright, what about uh a person who's you hear is in the hospital you might say well he was looking alright yesterday, why is he.
387:  Got worse.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, or what about using the word sick there when was it that he
387:  Got sick.
Interviewer:  Yeah And somebody who's been working out in the hot sun, he comes into an air conditioned room and his after a little while his eyes and nose start running, you'd say looks like he he starts sneezing
387:  Catching cold?
Interviewer:  Yeah, it looks like he, did what?
387:  #1 Caught a cold. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm okay # And if it you know affects his voice he's a little.
387:  Little hoarse.
Interviewer:  Yeah And if {NW} He does that, he's got a.
387:  Cough.
Interviewer:  Alright. Late in the day I might say, well I needa go to bed, feeling a little.
387:  Sleepy
Interviewer:  Okay But at six o'clock in the morning I'll.
387:  Be wide awake.
Interviewer:  Okay I'll do what?
387:  Wake up.
Interviewer:  Okay. And talking about somebody else who's still sleeping and you don't want 'em to, you might say well so-and-so's still in bed, you'd better go
387:  I don't understand.
Interviewer:  Better go
387:  #1 Oh better wake him up. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah, okay # Alright, the word take uh If there's some medicine on the side of the bed, the mother might come in and say well why haven't you.
387:  Taken your medicine.
Interviewer:  But I already.
387:  Took it.
Interviewer:  Well you're gonna have to
387:  Take it.
Interviewer:  Some more, okay. And somebody who uh has trouble hearing you say he's just about stone.
387:  Stone deaf.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if you've been working out in the hot sun, you might come in and take your shirt, wring it out and say look how I
387:  Sweated
Interviewer:  Okay. These places that some people get on their skin, they're kind of red and sensitive Got this white stuff that you mash out. What do you call a place like that?
387:  Pimple
Interviewer:  Alright, anything else you heard?
387:  Bump, maybe.
Interviewer:  What about the words boils or rising?
387:  Oh yeah, yeah you I always think of a Of a pimple as being a small place you know that kids get on they face And a rising as a bigger place and more, you know, just uh
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
387:  Rougher looking.
Interviewer:  Yeah, do people ever call that a boil?
387:  Oh yeah, mm-hmm
Interviewer:  You might call it a
387:  A boil or a rising. I I always think of a boil as being bigger than a rising. #1 I don't know whether that's #
Interviewer:  #2 Really? #
387:  Right or not, but I always think of a of a boil as being
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
387:  bigger than a rising.
Interviewer:  Okay. What do you call that white stuff that you mash out?
387:  Pus.
Interviewer:  Alright I'm talking about a blister, the fluid inside, what do you call that?
387:  Hmm I can't think of any {NS} Excuse me {NS} {X} We're trying to get a little case settled, it's one of those kinds of deals they There's not enough money to go around for child support.
Interviewer:  Yeah You sound like you'd like to strike this law.
387:  Oh I do, that's a that's a real nice {X} He's real Reasonable. Some of these lawyers are crazy But this one this It's a It's just, there's just not enough to go around, they got about five or six kids and it's one of those things you know, it just
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  That happens quite a bit, there just isn't enough to {NS} #1 {D: Divvy} #
Interviewer:  #2 Did you always want to be a lawyer? #
387:  Oh not always, I never knew what I wanted to be I don't think, but I love practicing law.
Interviewer:  Are most of the lawyers around here educated in the state?
387:  Yeah, I think so, I I'd think three-fourths of them would be.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm so about how many of them would you suppose were raised in this area?
387:  Until a short time ago the big majority of them now probably not much more than half, or little over maybe.
Interviewer:  Hmm
387:  But uh, we get a lot of, you know, we get a lot of out-of-town lawyers in here.
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  I think the farther away they come uh the more unreasonable they get. You get somebody from {X} These these schools like, I've seen a lot of lawyers from {NS} {X}
Interviewer:  Right Okay, I'll just ask you a few more questions then we'll stop. Uh, that fluid in blisters, did you ever think of anything?
387:  I don't, I can't think of anything that would describe that.
Interviewer:  Would you ever just call it water?
387:  Water, yeah, that'd be
Interviewer:  Okay Alright, say if a bee stung me on my hand And it got bigger, you'd say a bee stung me and my hand did what?
387:  Uh S-swelled
Interviewer:  Okay. My hand's pretty badly
387:  Swollen.
Interviewer:  You could almost see it
387:  Swell.
Interviewer:  Okay
387:  But that, put Folks always talking about something around here as being swole up.
Interviewer:  Swole up?
387:  yeah, that's a real
Interviewer:  Sure, okay. And if somebody in a war gets uh shot, you'd say he has a bad The place where he got shot He had a bad what?
387:  Mm Wound I guess, maybe, wound.
Interviewer:  You ever heard of any of wound doesn't heal cleanly and there's kind of a white granular flesh uh forming around it that has to be burned out or somehow removed, you ever heard that described in any kind of way?
387:  You're not talking about scarring?
Interviewer:  Not really, have you ever heard the phrase proud flesh?
387:  No. I don't think I've ever heard that.
Interviewer:  Okay it's just for pronunciation.
387:  Proud flesh
Interviewer:  Proud flesh Okay, and this is a dark brown fluid that you might put on a place to keep it from getting infected That would be.
387:  {X}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay, everything's good #
387:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Or something that begins with an I?
387:  Iodine
Interviewer:  Alright. And this is a white bitter tasting powder that used to be given for malaria.
387:  Quinine
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay Talking about a patient who has a terminal illness, you might say that the doctor did everything he could, but the patient.
387:  Died anyway or is gonna die.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm. Now the word died, if you're speaking to the family, and you don't want to come out and say I'm sorry to hear that so-and-so died what might you say?
387:  Passed away.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay
387:  The colored folks I think would mostly say passed #1 And leave the away off. #
Interviewer:  #2 Passed # Mm-hmm okay And what about joking or crude ways of saying so-and-so died?
387:  Kicked the bucket I think Or croaked.
Interviewer:  Okay. Talking about somebody who has died, you'd say well he's been uh dead a week now and nobody's figured out what he
387:  Died of.
Interviewer:  Okay And the place were people are buried, that would be a
387:  Cemetery.
Interviewer:  Okay {NS} {X} Things that have to do with death and dying. Uh, what would you call the box that people are buried in?
387:  Casket.
Interviewer:  Anything besides that?
387:  Uh coffin maybe but I think casket more.
Interviewer:  Okay, and the ceremony for the dead person you'd say you're going to his.
387:  Funeral.
Interviewer:  Yeah What about people who are dressed in black at a funeral, you say they're in.
387:  In mourning.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm. You see that done much around here nowadays?
387:  No, I don't think so.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay
387:  I think folks will just wear their you know, their regular clothes, business clothes or Sunday clothes.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Say on, just a regular day if you were walking down the street and met somebody that you knew He asked about you know just, inquired about your health, what would you probably say in response?
387:  Fine.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm Okay. Now let's say if somebody is troubled, you tell them oh it'll come out alright, just don't.
387:  Worry about it.
Interviewer:  okay what would you call a disease that attacks the joints. Painful usually.
387:  Arthritis.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm Anything beside that?
387:  Maybe rheumatism, I never have Understood the difference #1 between the two. #
Interviewer:  #2 Me neither. # Okay Do you know what disease that used to kill children because they would get sores in their throat? And wouldn't be able to breathe, they would suffocate. Don't hear about this too much anymore. Begins with a D.
387:  No. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Dip- #
387:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
387:  #1 Diphtheria? #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm # Yeah
387:  I've heard of diphtheria but I never knew what the symptoms were.
Interviewer:  Okay, it was just for pronunciation. What about a disease that uh Causes your skin and eyeballs to turn yellow?
387:  Yellow jaundice.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And if I get a severe pain right around here I might be having an attack of.
387:  Appendicitis.
Interviewer:  What about if somebody ate something that uh disagreed with them and it came back up, you'd say he had to what?
387:  Throw up or vomit.
Interviewer:  Alright Are there any words uh for that that strike you as either crude or funny?
387:  I think puke would be probably a crude
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  word that's used sometimes
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
387:  Uh. Can't think of any funny ones uh
Interviewer:  Are vomit and throw up just neutral words to you?
387:  I think so I think that {NW} I think vomit probably worse than throw up, #1 maybe #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  maybe a little more, well I don't know if it would or not, they're pretty close to #1 being neutral #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm #
387:  you hear upchuck sometimes.
Interviewer:  Yeah, how do you respond to that?
387:  I'd think that'd probably Nicer than the other two
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, okay. What about barf, do you ever hear that?
387:  Yeah I have {D: sure to have} Not quite as much but I
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm Where does that fall as far as uh your response to it? does that amuse you or would that repel you if somebody said they had to barf?
387:  No. I don't, I'd pretty much be neutral #1 on that one. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm # And if the word is
387:  Barf
Interviewer:  Yeah, okay. Alright, somebody who's sick that way, you'd say he's sick where?
387:  Sick to his stomach.
Interviewer:  Alright. Alright, talk about courtship a little bit. If a boy is seeing the same girl pretty regularly, and he's getting serious about her, what would you say he's doing?
387:  Going with her.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Any other words for that?
387:  Dating her. Uh going with her Uh Can't think of any
Interviewer:  Do you still hear courting?
387:  Occasionally, but not as much as as you know in the past.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
387:  Older folks you you know #1 might say that. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm # This strike you as an old fashioned word?
387:  Mm-hmm. Think so.
Interviewer:  Okay. You would say that he is her what?
387:  Boyfriend.
Interviewer:  Okay. And she would be his.
387:  Girlfriend.
Interviewer:  Alright. Say if a boy comes in late one night and he's got lipstick all over him and his little brother sees him he might say aha you've been.
387:  Making out.
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Say if a boy asks a girl to marry him but she doesn't want to, what would you say she did to him?
387:  Turned him down.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, okay. But if she didn't turn him down and say they went ahead and got
387:  Married.
Interviewer:  That, at the wedding, the man who stands up with the groom, you call him the
387:  Best man.
Interviewer:  Yeah, and the woman who stands up with the bride, you call her the
387:  Maid of honor.
Interviewer:  Okay Around here years ago, did you ever hear of a noisy ceremony after the wedding say a lot of people would follow the couple back into their home and maybe even shoot off guns and play tricks on the couple?
387:  No, oh I you know of course I've heard of them you know painting up their car and
Interviewer:  Mm
387:  chasing them out of town but never never any
Interviewer:  #1 Serious #
387:  #2 No. Uh-uh. #
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard the word shivaree or serenade?
387:  Course I've heard #1 Not, not used anything like that I don't think #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} Yeah # Okay. Alright, say if there's a party going on somewhere and it gets a little out of hand and one of the neighbors calls the police and they come over They don't arrest just one person, they arrest the.
387:  Whole bunch.
Interviewer:  Okay
387:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Say if uh, some young people had gotten together and rented a hall or An armory or something like that and they hire a band too, you say they're going to have a.
387:  Party.
Interviewer:  Okay and specifically when you know the couples move around on the floor.
387:  Have a dance.
Interviewer:  Yeah okay What about this expression Say it uh if three o'clock in the afternoon the children uh get out of school, you'd say at three o'clock school does what?
387:  Lets out maybe.
Interviewer:  Okay Now if it's the summer time when school when isn't in session toward the end of the summer, somebody might ask, well when does school
387:  End. {NW}
Interviewer:  Well.
387:  Get out
Interviewer:  Well but say they're anticipating the reopening of school
387:  #1 Oh, when does school start back. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Right. Okay. Say if a little boy leaves home and he's supposed to be going to school, but on the way he decides he doesn't want to go that day, you'd say that he did what?
387:  Played hooky
Interviewer:  Okay
387:  Or shot the hook some people say
Interviewer:  shot the hook?
387:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer:  Uh, what would you say {D: shot the hook} I was noticing somebody said shot hooky, you ever heard that?
387:  I don't think I've heard that. But I've heard shot the hook.
Interviewer:  What would you say if you were in college and you decided you didn't want to go to class?
387:  {D: You don't cut}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm And the person goes to school to get an
387:  Education.
Interviewer:  Alright and after high school some people go to
387:  College.
Interviewer:  What a What do you say you enter after you finish kindergarten, you go into
387:  Uh grammar school or first grade.
Interviewer:  Okay. And in the school room, each student sits at his own.
387:  Desk
Interviewer:  Okay the plural of that, you say a lot of
387:  Desks.
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright some buildings around town you wanna check out a book you go to the
387:  Library.
Interviewer:  And to mail a package
387:  Post office.
Interviewer:  Alright, and if you had to stay overnight in a strange town.
387:  Stay at a motel.
Interviewer:  Or a
387:  Hotel.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if you wanted to go see a play or a movie, you would go to the.
387:  Theater.
Interviewer:  Alright. And if you got very sick you might have to go to the
387:  Hospital
Interviewer:  Okay And at the hospital, the woman who takes care of you, she's a
387:  Nurse.
Interviewer:  Right. What about if you wanted to catch a train in town, where would you go?
387:  Depot
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, any other way of saying that?
387:  Train station.
Interviewer:  Okay Would you ever use a phrase with the word rail in it?
387:  Mm No, I don't think so.
Interviewer:  Like railroad station or railway station?
387:  Not much I don't think
Interviewer:  Wouldn't use it okay. Here in uh Talladega Where the court house is situated and the buildings you know surrounding the courthouse, does that area have a name?
387:  Mm-hmm that's the square.
Interviewer:  Square okay. Say if
387:  #1 Or courthouse square #
Interviewer:  #2 that # #1 Mm #
387:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  okay. Downtown, if there's a building sitting right here, and then there's one right here, you'd say that this one was right across from this one, what if it's sitting like so? How would you describe the position from this building?
387:  Uh Diagonally across
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, any other word you heard used?
387:  No None that I can
Interviewer:  Mm-kay have you ever heard kitty or catty-cornered?
387:  Yeah, catty-cornered.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm that will do.
387:  Oh yeah, catty-cornered well
Interviewer:  So catty-cornered, it was on an on an angle
387:  #1 Uh yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 or diagonally? #
387:  And diagonally across, it sure would.
Interviewer:  Okay.
387:  I didn't even think about that.
Interviewer:  Alright. Have you ever heard the words antigodlin or antigoglin to mean catty-cornered?
387:  No I don't think I have.
Interviewer:  Okay Alright, this is a vehicle that runs on rails that's powered from a wire overhead. Still see it in San Fransisco.
387:  Street car.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm And if you're riding on a bus, you might tell the driver well The next corner's where I want.
387:  To get off
Interviewer:  Alright. Here in Talladega where you have the court house, you'd say that Talladega is the what of Talladega
387:  County seat
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh if you're, Or if you're a post master, you work for the federal
387:  Government
Interviewer:  Okay. What do would you say that police in a town are supposed to maintain?
387:  Uh, law and order.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay I don't know if I asked you this or not. But the war between the North and the southern states, did I ask you that?
387:  Mm-hmm I think it.
Interviewer:  I think I did.
387:  #1 I think we said Civil War, what it was called here. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Okay, I didn't make a note of that. Alright, in the days before the electric chair, murderers were
387:  Hung
Interviewer:  Yeah. And a man who commits suicide like that, you'd say he went out and
387:  #1 I'd say hung himself. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm okay # Alright, I'm going to ask you some names of some states and see if you can just -for pronunciation.
387:  Don't worry
Interviewer:  Uh Albany would be the capital of which state?
387:  New York
Interviewer:  Okay now, to distinguish it from the city You know if you said New York, somebody might confuse it with the city How would you specify it's a state you're talking about?
387:  I'd say New York State.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay And Baltimore is in
387:  Maryland
Interviewer:  Alright, uh Richmond.
387:  Virginia.
Interviewer:  Raleigh.
387:  North Carolina.
Interviewer:  Atlanta.
387:  Georgia.
Interviewer:  Uh Columbia.
387:  South Carolina.
Interviewer:  Okay, Miami.
387:  Florida.
Interviewer:  And we're here in.
387:  Alabama
Interviewer:  New Orleans.
387:  Louisiana.
Interviewer:  Louisville.
387:  Kentucky.
Interviewer:  Okay, Nashville.
387:  Tennessee.
Interviewer:  St. Louis.
387:  Missouri.
Interviewer:  Little Rock.
387:  Arkansas.
Interviewer:  Uh Pascagoula.
387:  Mississippi.
Interviewer:  Uh Dallas.
387:  Texas.
Interviewer:  Uh Tulsa.
387:  Oklahoma.
Interviewer:  Boston.
387:  Massachusetts.
Interviewer:  What would, do you have a name for all of the states from Maine to Connecticut together?
387:  Uh the New England states.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm Okay and the cities now, what would you say that the biggest city in Maryland is?
387:  Baltimore.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the capital of this country is.
387:  Washington D.C.
Interviewer:  Okay. And probably the biggest city in Missouri would be.
387:  Kansas City.
Interviewer:  Okay, I need another one, looking for another one.
387:  Uh #1 St. Louis I guess. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm # Okay. What about a historical sea port in South Carolina
387:  Charleston.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the biggest city in Illinois would be
387:  {NW} Chicago
Interviewer:  Alright What about a few of the bigger cities in Alabama?
387:  Mm Birmingham, Montgomery. Huntsville Mobile.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay #1 What do you call #
387:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  The body of water that uh Mobile is on, that would be
387:  Bay.
Interviewer:  Okay and after you get out of the bay, you get into the what?
387:  The Gulf. Gulf of Mexico.
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright and uh Do you know what a city in the mountains, in the western part of North Carolina, it's a resort city?
387:  Blowing Rock.
Interviewer:  Mm I'm thinking of another one.
387:  Mm.
Interviewer:  So this is Thomas Wolfe's hometown, the guy who wrote "You Can't Go Home Again."
387:  Yeah, uh
Interviewer:  Begins with an A.
387:  Asheville.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay. And so the bigger cities in Tennessee.
387:  Uh Chattanooga, Memphis, Nashville, Knoxville.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay. And the biggest city in Georgia would be.
387:  Atlanta.
Interviewer:  Alright, what about the seaport in Georgia?
387:  Savannah.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay, and this is I think the second biggest city in Georgia, it's right across the Alabama line The Phoenix city
387:  Columbus
Interviewer:  Okay And another big city in Georgia. Right at the central part of the state.
387:  Macon?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay And the biggest city in uh Louisiana would be.
387:  New Orleans.
Interviewer:  And the capital would be.
387:  Baton Rouge.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm And the largest city in southern Ohio where the the ridge {X}
387:  Cincinnati
Interviewer:  Okay And the horse racing city in Kentucky
387:  Louisville.
Interviewer:  Alright, and three foreign countries, if you were in Moscow, you would be in.
387:  Uh Russia.
Interviewer:  Okay, if you were in Paris.
387:  France.
Interviewer:  And if you were in Dublin.
387:  Ireland.
Interviewer:  Okay Uh If you think about religion now, what would you say is the largest uh Protestant denomination in the South would be?
387:  Probably Baptist.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay. And talking about a fellow who became a member of a church, you'd say he did what?
387:  Joined.
Interviewer:  Do you have What would he He joined what?
387:  Joined the church.
Interviewer:  Yeah okay, I just needed that phrase.
387:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh And when you're in church, you pray to.
387:  The Lord.
Interviewer:  Okay, another word would be.
387:  Jesus. Or God.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm okay. And you would say the minister or preached a fine.
387:  Sermon.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh the choir, the organist provided good.
387:  Music.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
387:  Songs
Interviewer:  {NS} How would you maybe describe the music, you would say that the music was just {NS} It was very appealing and you liked it you'd say it was just.
387:  Wonderful.
Interviewer:  Alright, another word would be.
387:  Beautiful.
Interviewer:  Okay, that's what it is Uh what would you call the being that's the enemy and the opposite of God?
387:  Uh the devil.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm, any other names for him?
387:  Satan
Interviewer:  Okay Do you ever Alright, sometimes parents would uh try to get their child to behave by saying if you don't straighten up the old something would get you
387:  Boogeyman
Interviewer:  Yeah.
387:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Now # Is he supposed to be the same as the devil?
387:  I don't think he is No I don't think so, I think that they're
Interviewer:  They're different.
387:  I think so.
Interviewer:  They're some sort of bad #1 spirit. #
387:  #2 I think it is, yeah. #
Interviewer:  Okay, your your parents ever tell you that?
387:  #1 No they never scared me. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # Okay And uh, these are things that some people think they see and they're afraid of.
387:  Ghosts
Interviewer:  Sure. And if they get in the house, they say the house is
387:  Haunted.
Interviewer:  Alright, this word If somebody asks you to do something that you're not too crazy about doing, you might say well I'll do that uh But I'd, not.
387:  Rather not
Interviewer:  Yeah, okay What would you say to a friend of yours you hadn't seen in a long, long time? What about seeing him for the first time? {X}