Interviewer:  Okay back at weather
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Well it's just uh the clouds are getting thicker and darker and figure you're gonna be having some rain what would you say the weather is doing in a situation like that? You'd say it's kind of?
533:  Mm-hmm. Huh I don't know weather's changing you know. Fixing to have a storm I mean you know. Just um
Interviewer:  It's threatening rain?
533:  Yeah. Threatening weather Mm-hmm and now that's if you are you know you're gonna have a storm that's threatening weather yeah.
Interviewer:  Kay.
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What would you say it's it's doing if it's like that where the clouds begin to pull away and the signs
533:  Breaking off.
Interviewer:  Sure.
533:  Breaking off breaking off back up in the north you know
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Now and then- after it breaks for a little while it starts clearing off
Interviewer:  #1 Right. #
533:  #2 see. # But it's gotta break off before it can clear off.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of faring off?
533:  Yeah it fares off you know. Uh faring off is kind of like you know you get up in the morning and it faring off
Interviewer:  #1 Right. #
533:  #2 Hey you know. # {NW}
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Because you didn't know you didn't know there was a lot of clouds are doing at night so you don't know that it broke off.
Interviewer:  Sure.
533:  You know and uh You can't swear that it cleared off you just know that it fared off
Interviewer:  #1 Alright #
533:  #2 you know. # Yeah I never thought about that. That's kind of strange you know.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Hey it fared off last night you know.
Interviewer:  {NW}.
533:  Sound like somebody playing uh you know golf you know. Faring off teeing off.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Sure. Fare away why not?
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What would you call a a lot of rain just in a short while maybe a couple of inches in an hour?
533:  Uh
Interviewer:  You say you had irregular?
533:  Gully washer. {NW} Yeah. Frog strangler. Uh you know a flood you know.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  But I would say gully washer yeah downpour same thing. Everybody has their own little terms you know? Cow pissing on a pole bridge you know this kind of thing. {NW}
Interviewer:  What?
533:  Pole bridge.
Interviewer:  Pole bridge?
533:  You know bridge made out of poles.
Interviewer:  Oh.
533:  You can imagine how it would run through you know just whamming or straight through right okay.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Or a flat rock is the same
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah right. #
533:  #2 thing though right? #
Interviewer:  God I've hear that before.
533:  But that splatters a lot but the pole bridge son it goes straight through it just in hard streams you know so that was you know.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  There's a difference in the flat rock they're in a pole bridge {D: seriously.}
Interviewer:  Is it raining pitchforks and needles?
533:  {X} yeah right Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  And I used to sit there and imagine you know when I was a kid like four years old you know and I would sit there and imagine you know I could look out there and I could see that like when it hits the puddles you know when it comes up in little spears and all that luck Yeah oh yeah it is pitchforks you know.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  But I've seen it rain so hard uh that you know you could go out in the yard and find a little fish. You know a little menace goldfish you now. {C: radio} Ah {NW} Mm. {NS} No. Got some kind record on it probably over driving a little bit. {NS} {NW} {NS} That's a thunderstorm. {NS} Well electrical storm yeah you know right but uh around here you usually get some rain you know.
Interviewer:  Right. {X}
533:  Oh yeah the devil's whipping his wife. {NS} Hey {NS}
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Mm-hmm. Sorry {NW} Yeah Well they we when see when- when you flip a mic on an air see it- it opens these up in here too see.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Gonna switch it back. Yeah you know the devil's whipping his wife uh you know this kind of thing. {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh {NW} {X} outside of the line the wind came along and {NS}
533:  Blow 'em down.
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  Now Blow 'em off you know it's quite a which one that did you know if it blew them blew 'em down or blow 'em off.
Interviewer:  Alright okay.
533:  Blowed 'em away.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Is really what you were looking for I guess.
Interviewer:  I would say the wind has?
533:  That's blown them d- you know.
Interviewer:  And the wind will?
533:  {NW} Will continue to blow you know right.
Interviewer:  What is the uh the wind that's coming from the {NS} {NS}
533:  Southerly.
Interviewer:  {X} {NS}
533:  Blowing from the south you know.
Interviewer:  {D: that way}
533:  And northerly.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  I mean you know northeast was {X} yeah. And this {NS} Yeah northeasterly southwesterly you know southeasterly northwesterly yeah you know. {NS} East-west.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Uh {NW} {NS} you know {NS} you say {NS} It's a westerly wind you're meaning the course that the wind is from the west you know not blowing to the west. {NS} And if you start trying to explain it people go What's he talking about you know? {NS} You know right wind blowing from the west to the east at about you know {X} hell if it's west, it's west you know. So {NS}
Interviewer:  About a a rain it's bound to get wet in.
533:  That's a drizzle. You mean like a sprinkle? Or drizzle? You're-
Interviewer:  Are they about the same?
533:  Well uh a sprinkle is simply that you know just drops. Just drops occasional drops but a drizzle is a light very slow just almost a a uh. What would you call it? Let me see. Well just- just a little bitty rain
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
533:  #2 Just a # tiny rain you know it just- just drizzles a little bit you know? Um but a sprinkle is just drops.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Drip drip drip you know?
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear of people say it's misting outside?
533:  Yeah well a misty yeah. Misty and a drizzle. A drizzle I think is a little bit heavier than a mist.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  You know a mist is just that. It looks like a mist but a drizzle uh is just a light light rain.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  You know.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. What about this stuff that you might drive into in a in a {NW} a in a low area dangerous to drive in?
533:  Fog. Yeah mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And you would call that what kind of day?
533:  Mm. Foggy day yeah. Low lying fog.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Or as they say now there's fog.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  You know.
Interviewer:  What about if you don't for a couple of weeks without rain? and you'd say you're having?
533:  A dry spell.
Interviewer:  And if it gets more serious you'd be having?
533:  Mm-hmm. Well you'd be having a drought really but it'd just be a serious dry spell. Drought I think is more or less a westerly term you know it's out there where the ground cracks open and that kind of thing. Around here it just gets dry. I know. {NW}
Interviewer:  Say if the wind has been very gentle but it starts getting stronger.
533:  Hmm.
Interviewer:  What would you say?
533:  Kicking up. Wind's kicking up or picking up you know uh. It's about basically that Actually what it's doing is becoming you know uh more of a weather factory you know more intense and uh. It's picking up.
Interviewer:  Okay What if it's just the opposite? It's been strong but it's getting more more gentle?
533:  Hmm Well winds are you know getting calm you know. Becoming calm or nearing nearing calm. Um backing off it's you know it's coordinated if you're if if you're doing in a an informative manner or if you're just chit-chatting with a buddy you know. Man that wind is backing off and maybe we can go flying today you know. But if you're on the air or making a report of some type you know then the wind has you know eased to two miles an hour this kind of thing. Breeze. A light wind would be a breeze you know and a a wind uh ten to fourteen miles an hour would be a you know you might say a short gust.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  You know.
Interviewer:  How would you describe {NW} weather maybe like on an early fall morning it's a little bit on the cool side but?
533:  Nippy.
Interviewer:  comfortable
533:  Crisp. Yeah. Kind of crisp or nippy. Mm-hmm. I use the word nippy you know. Chilly things like that. It depends.
Interviewer:  After you go outside and you have a light coating of white on the ground you'd say you have a little?
533:  You mean snow or dew?
Interviewer:  Snow but.
533:  Hmm.
Interviewer:  Something else kind of ice?
533:  Sleet yeah. You know like sleet?
Interviewer:  Or?
533:  Frost uh yeah frost yeah okay.
Interviewer:  #1 Sure. #
533:  #2 Alright. #
Interviewer:  Are there different kinds {NW} or more severe?
533:  {NW} Well there a heavy frost you know light frost uh and there's just a plain frost. It depends uh the light frost you know they kind of start with a heavy frost because you know you had seen one in six months you know. And it looks heavy. And then you'll have a light frost. Then you'll get accustomed to it and it's just a frost you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Uh It's kind of like the old bit about a dash of salt or dab of salt you know?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Or a smidgen. Uh believe it or not there's you know there's differences you know.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Like you know
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  A smidgen goes a smidgen is how much you can hold between your you know your thumb and your forefinger and a dash is just a dash you know. A dab is a maybe couple of dashes and a and a smidgen.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  And uh you know Wise man told me once and I said how- how'd how'd you do it? He said this time this that and the other and a dab dab in a half two dabs of this you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  And so you know. That's that's the weather's a lot the same way it depends on how you look at it.
Interviewer:  Right. Somebody might say it got so cold last night that the lake?
533:  Yeah, it froze over. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And if it gets much colder the pond might?
533:  Eh it will probably freeze over too.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  But uh freezes over but it falls up.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Right.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Actually I- I think that it would probably fall down but they say it fall up any way.
Interviewer:  {NW} Okay {NW} has
533:  Thawed up.
Interviewer:  Or? If it's a process of freezing?
533:  Iced. Yeah it's just freezing yeah. Freezing over you know. And it's frozen over.
Interviewer:  Right yeah. Okay.
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Do you have any any uh term for the uh for say jiff just the edges or the ponds are freezing? {X} Say it's?
533:  Uh you know. That would I guess be in a state of freezing over you know. Icing up you know. Icing up around the edges I mean that's just that's just about what it we call.
Interviewer:  You ever skimmed over or something like that?
533:  Uh well skimmed over that would be just a light light you know where you couldn't even really you couldn't see the ripples in the water you know. It's just a little skim over it yeah. Just kind of a like in an ice tray when it's been in the refrigerator you know five minutes you know it's got a little yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Um alright we'll get into things that have to do with the house. {NS}
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  I- I remember you mentioning the the living room {NS} {X} Is that kind of a fancy term?
533:  Well uh I think the parlor would uh carry connotation of a you know of a big house Uh not to me in my mind When I think of a parlor I think of a you know uh big house with a separate room for you to come into. You know like off the screened porch yeah. You know you come into the parlor you know where it's Maybe like a sun room. You know or something like that you know on the south side of the house. Uh quiet and away from everything else. I also think of you know an old man and an old woman that live by themselves you know and they they have a parlor you know where they you know bring their little great nephews and things like this in to play and keep 'em off the the place in there where they got the nice china you know? Put you in the parlor.
Interviewer:  #1 Right. #
533:  #2 You know. # But uh I don't know of anybody uh anybody that I know in the last ten years that just built a house put a parlor in it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Unless it was a you know a sauna a health parlor you know? Or a bar parlor.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Yeah. Uh there mostly announced mud rooms you know {NW} Well the guy comes in from hunting the old lady said Why don't you take go back out there on the porch and then you come in you know.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Uh So mud rooms would be the probably I guess the next parlor.
Interviewer:  Are there any houses around here that have the extremely high ceilings?
533:  Mm-hmm. Oh yeah.
Interviewer:  Just roughly off the top of your head about high how would you say?
533:  About ten feet. Are you talking you know interior yeah sure ten feet. And uh some even taller up you know. I've seen 'em where that uh they're probably twelve. Depends on you know the house if it's a you know an uptown estate you know they might have a twelve foot ceiling. You know. I never really understood why because back then surely they knew that pete rose Uh you know but anyway yeah there's some- there's some around.
Interviewer:  Uh the house that you grew up in did you have a fireplace?
533:  Mm-hmm. {D: And that was all.} Yeah that was that was that was the heating. Matter of fact had a one two three fireplaces you know.
Interviewer:  What did you call the thing at the top of the house made out of brick maybe that smoked?
533:  Well back then I called it a chimney. {C: pronunciation} That's C-H-I-M-L-E-Y.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  But you know it's a chimney right.
Interviewer:  What about at the tall tank?
533:  Might be a smokestack you know a chimney. Same thing yeah.
Interviewer:  Well inside a fireplace what do you call the the big pieces of wood that you burn?
533:  Logs. you know.
Interviewer:  Ever heard of back log or back stick?
533:  Uh yeah that's the big one yeah. That's the one you put on a back you know that you just kind of get getting hot in it kind of smokes and smolders all night long you know. Burns slowly the back stick.
Interviewer:  What about the type of wood that you would use to start a fire?
533:  That's kindling.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Ever heard that called uh that lighter or light wood?
533:  Nah. That's kindling. It kindles the blaze you know starts the blaze.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Kindles the fires kindling you know.
Interviewer:  Is that usually pine or?
533:  Uh not especially you know dried just dried feathered wood. I mean you know anything you can chip up small. Hickory's good. Uh you know if you get the right kind of hickory or if you get some old good dry hickory but you don't try anything wet. I mean or green.
Interviewer:  What's so wrong
533:  #1 The oak #
Interviewer:  #2 with it? #
533:  bark you know stuff like that will burn fast you know. Especially when it's got moss on it you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And the things that you set the logs across inside?
533:  Dog irons Yeah. Or just the irons you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  And you stir the fire around with a poker.
Interviewer:  What do you say is left when the wood's all burned?
533:  Ashes.
Interviewer:  Yeah. What color are those usually?
533:  Uh gray. Uh I would say gray the color of ashes. They're an ash color you know what I mean.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
533:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  And and the black stuff that forms inside it?
533:  Soot. Yeah.
Interviewer:  What about the thing that's over the fireplace that you might put photographs?
533:  Mm that's a mantle. The mantle.
Interviewer:  Do f- do you just say mantle or mantle piece mantle board?
533:  No, just the mantle. You know we'll put the alarm clock on the mantle you know.
Interviewer:  And the open area in front of the
533:  That's the hearth. Yeah. I dropped my kid brother on there at one time.
Interviewer:  {NS} Dropped him?
533:  Dropped him.
Interviewer:  You mean when he was like a baby?
533:  Like he was uh three or four months old yeah you know maybe maybe three months old and had one of those little {X} he kicked a little thingamajigger at the bottom of the side go {NW} you know. And everybody else was eating supper you know and uh And that had his hearth by I mean had his hearth had his bed setting on the hearth way and they you know closed off the uh fireplace #1 here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Right. #
533:  And of course the fireplace on the other side I mean on the o- in the other room which joined that one so you kept it warm but you know they had its own hearth. {NS} Any who everybody was carrying the baby around and I wasn't the baby anymore and so hell I was just gonna reach in and wag him around see what's so special about this stud and you know I dropped him. And {NW} I got at least four whippings.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Yeah. You know just tore up my little rear up.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  But hey I didn't drop him anymore ran over him with a bicycle you know {X}.
Interviewer:  You were good to him.
533:  #1 But I didn't drop him. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
533:  No more dropping yeah.
Interviewer:  What do you call the uh belongings several people can sit on in the living room?
533:  Well couch.
Interviewer:  {D: Same size there?}
533:  Uh not really you know I say sofa in advertising but it's a couch Hell it's not a davenport. A davenport is a is something like my old great aunt Beat would have you know it uh you know the swirled back and the and the designs that look like a lion's head or a lion's well that's a davenport you know you know ornate.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  No I
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Oh it sound like a love s- a davenport love seat huh. Yeah I can picture them.
Interviewer:  {NS} In your bedroom
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  something a piece of furniture that you with a {NS}
533:  Dresser. Chifforobe uh maybe yeah.
Interviewer:  Dresser and chifforobes the same thing?
533:  No. Uh you could have a dresser but you know then you could have a chifforobe too. I had one.
Interviewer:  Wasn't there
533:  Oh the chifforobe uh was tall you know you couldn't put any of the things you put on top of it you stored out of the way you know what I mean?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  You know like your football things like this Uh he was tall and on a on a one side on on on either of the two sides maybe only on both sides they had a mirrored door. you know and it unlocked with a key it it didn't have a pull handle you had to unlock it with a key. {C: radio} And uh then at the top center you had a small mirrored door like that you know that unlocked with a key when you kept your super valuables you know what I mean? It had about six or eight drawers down the middle you know Chifforobe I had not a lot of them {X} A dresser usually has a mirror {X} on the middle or something like that you know. {NS} and the flat part's like a tabletop and then you know two or three lights go over the {X} Some smaller drawers you can put jockstrap socks things like that you know you know stuff that doesn't have to be laying in order you know what I mean It's stuff you can wad up and chuck in a little drawer.
Interviewer:  Yeah uh {NS} the thing that you mentioned the same as a chest of drawers?
533:  No. Uh-uh a chest of drawers we call it a chester drawers C-H-E-S-T-E-R chester drawers. Uh no a chester drawers had about you know like four if it was you know medium-sized about four long drawers in it. you know uh I'd say you know nine ten inches deep and twenty-five to thirty-six inches long you know something like that and uh that's all it was and it was about you know breast-high something like that and you could put you know a picture on top of it or set your books on it you know but it was not a dresser and it was not a chifforobe. It was a chester drawer. Right.
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  Uh you know we had all three.
Interviewer:  What do you call that's built in part {X}
533:  A closet you know.
Interviewer:  Used to did you have {X} in a separate piece?
533:  No not really. You know you could do that in a chifforobe you know little bitty small you know stuff that you know mama wore once every five years and that stuff was kind of stuffy on the chifforobe we did not have a uh what do you call that? I know what you like a gallery type. I know what you're talking about. I can't think of the word. But no we didn't have one. I've seen 'em.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Yeah a wardrobe that's what I was trying to think of gallery yeah. But anyway
Interviewer:  Do do you use the word gallery {X} furniture?
533:  No no not really uh I was thinking there was a friend of mine one time that had uh he was a little bit uppity you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  And they used words like that you know. Like they would um algebra you know.
Interviewer:  Huh just throw 'em.
533:  Yeah with a spell uh-huh. Yeah.
Interviewer:  Just to impress people.
533:  You know about the old story about the guy that went to- went to Chicago you know. To go to school and came back and his granddaddy said well tell me what you learned. Said well we learn a little French and Italian. I mean you know uh French and Latin uh. Learned to uh you know speak a little Spanish learned some algebra and said well speak me some that algebra.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  Lay some of that algebra on he said pi r squared and he said hell I knew I was wasting my money. Pie is round and cornbread is squared you know so.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  {NW}
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  #1 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 That's funny # {NW}
533:  So uh you know. That's uh some people did that you know it just you know they impress you with the Instead of saying you cute they say quite impressionistic don't you think so {X} You know and
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  I thought shit boy. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Uh which which out the um the things you would put over your windows to to keep out the light.
533:  Huh blinds sort of what it was that's curtains there. We would call 'em drapes. A drape was something you would see in a in a gallery you know. Uh no drape was something like uh course we had a picture window that's what we call it uh. I don't know what they call it now I guess still picture window. It looked like you know like this what we are looking at into right now you know. Uh more or less uh about a six by four window you know. Uh But we just had uh bamboo curtains across it you know. And uh had drapes was to me at that time it meant something like the velvet with the uh with the tiered sheers and things like that now that was a drape you know. And uh drape was something you also did with a long coat. She was going to put it over your head when it was raining. You know you draped it across your noggin and ran out in the water. But uh it was a curtain.
Interviewer:  I would
533:  And we had blinds and shades.
Interviewer:  Now the shades are the things you
533:  Yeah shades you pull down. Blinds you know you work the little string and open them up you know. They kind of wink at you when they go through.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
533:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  What about a place like uh uh storage space.
533:  The attic? {NS} Well the loft was the word. You know. What'd you do with that old box of Christmas stuff? It's up in the loft.
Interviewer:  It's in the barn.
533:  Yeah you know it's just got to be I guess that's where it came from. It's up in the loft. {NS} And uh {NS} sounds weird I guess now you know.
Interviewer:  What about
533:  But an attic to me is something that is big enough you know that you could go up and you know walk around in sit down have a playhouse in whatever you want to call it you know an attic.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Oh it was kind of like a basement. I mean under the house it was under the house you know and up in the loft was up in the loft. And that was different from an attic. Yeah.
Interviewer:  Have you ever seen any houses round here where the kitchen was built away from the main house? You had to walk outside to get to it?
533:  {NW} One or two I could show you one. And I- and I used to ask my daddy I said daddy is that where the slaves used to live? You know it's a little house uh about five times the size of a a toilet you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  And it's got windows and doors. but you know just one or two not many of those around here.
Interviewer:  And {D: do you remember that thing?}
533:  Uh Well not really except for this particular family that I know of. They own a couple thousand acres you know and I figured you know get the heat away in the summertime out there and let the old black women cook you know and bring it to the house. You know that's just kind of my thought. I really don't know.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Uh
Interviewer:  What about a room
533:  People ate chitterlings and things like that back then you know I wouldn't wanna smell 'em you know five feet from where I was going to eat either.
Interviewer:  Yeah um
533:  {D:Stumped whooped} you know eh
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  They get kind of rank, but you know anyway. {NW}
Interviewer:  What about a room uh built right off the kitchen where you might keep extra dishes canned goods {NW}
533:  Yeah uh I had an aunt that had one of those. Swear I can't think of what she called it. But just a storage room you know. Back porch you're talking bout like a cellar really uh in a- in a sense.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 Would you ever # call it the pantry?
533:  Yeah. Not what I guess you would. A pantry I always thought of was the same thing a cupboard. Or a cabinet you know. Keep it in the pantry. Uh
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  No I- I wouldn't. No {NW}.
Interviewer:  What would you call maybe a room or a separate building where somebody can keep all their accumulated junk?
533:  Junk room. You know a shop you know. After after everybody had to be a big shot it's a shop you know?
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  And now it's a storage building or utility building you know.
Interviewer:  What would say a woman does say she gets up in the morning kind of putters around the house and dusts a little bit here and straightens something there you say she does what?
533:  Eh she's cleaning the house. You know. Straightening the house depends on what she's doing if she's cleaning or straightening you know.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  She ought to be cooking breakfast what she oughta be doing.
Interviewer:  {NW} We're hungry huh.
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And the thing she would be sweeping with would be called?
533:  It's a broom or you know a dust mop like I said But a broom. A dustrag if she was wiping off the top of the piano you know.
Interviewer:  Alright.
533:  It's uh uh what is it now some kind of cloth no but it was a dust rag. Back then it was you know um Dustrag dishrag washrag.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  But now it's washcloth bath cloth you know.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Hand towels. You know face towels. But it was rag.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  R-A-G just any use that's what it was.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Just a damn old rag you know.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  {NW} Nothing cute about it. you kn-
Interviewer:  Hand towels and bath towel that's when you're taking a bath?
533:  Yeah you know mm-hmm right.
Interviewer:  And the dishrag that's for
533:  Eh that's washing dishes yeah you know.
Interviewer:  What about the one you use when you're drying them?
533:  That's a drying rag.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  This is difference it's a different thing. A washrag is just a thin- it could be like a piece of a flour sack you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Uh just something to wipe instead of with your hands while you're washing the dishes you know and then you rinse 'em off which at that time was called ranching 'em off.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Uh And you you know put 'em up on the other side and you had kind of a fluffy you know towel type thing you know. Almost potholder status sometimes you know just thick soakable you know and that was a drying rag.
Interviewer:  Yeah. What about the big one that you dry off after a bath?
533:  Well that was a towel.
Interviewer:  Yeah. {NW}
533:  A towel.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  I have a friend uh that's real funny I mean of course you know I- I can't I laugh I don't really laugh. It amuses me. And sometimes we laugh together. But you know I mean we used to talk like it was a towel give me the towel. And uh the this friend of mine married a girl from Missouri. And she still you know says towel and flower you know. That's a flower towel
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
533:  It's got flowers on it. You know and uh we'd just get so tickled you know and the- the funny part is I'm not- I'm laughing at the fact that God you know that that we all used to do that you know and it's why don't we do it anymore you know? Hand me the towel. Alright well you know you just went to school or something you know you're just around uh different words and that's all that amounts to. You know if you'd grown if you'd been born in Spain you'd speak Spanish you know. And as they say around here the Romans.
Interviewer:  What about if a woman has a bunch dirty clothes accumulated. {X} she needs to do her?
533:  Do her washing. Mm-hmm. We wouldn't say laundry. Surely we're not on the air.
Interviewer:  What now? This?
533:  {NW}
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Hang on a minute. Fire up my pipe. {NW} Where were we? Oh yeah about flower towels. Anyway
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  It's kind of like wire pliers you know. And uh barbed wire. {NS} And a car tire {D: and a cartoon} Yeah you know. It's just- it's just strange when you start thinking about it. I probably already said that once you know. {D: in recent sessions} or whatever. It- it does it amazes me. It really does.
Interviewer:  What about uh say you were walking up the uh from the yard to get to the porch. The thing you go up {X}
533:  Steps door steps.
Interviewer:  Now what if you're inside and you're going to the second story? You walk up the?
533:  Well if you had stairs and uh you know.
Interviewer:  Up the stairs inside.
533:  Mm-hmm. Alright, steps are on the outside stairs on the inside you know.
Interviewer:  Okay. Have you ever heard anybody call the porch any of it uh anything else?
533:  Hmm. I don't know for instance I mean
Interviewer:  Gallery veranda?
533:  Nah.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Nah. No. Mezzanine {NW} Uh Well mezzanine hangs over something. There's another one besides mezzanine what is it? It kind of means the same thing you know. Hanging {X} Uh I can't either.
Interviewer:  I can't think of it.
533:  Hmm.
Interviewer:  What about a porch that extends out around both sides of the house. Have you seen those?
533:  Yeah mm-hmm right.
Interviewer:  Any special term for it?
533:  Just a big porch you know.
Interviewer:  Okay yeah. Say you owned a framed house with the porch on the outside that overlap each other kind of like that. You ever heard that called anything?
533:  You mean the name of it?
Interviewer:  Like any kind of boarding or something like that.
533:  Um I mean I maybe I'm missing the question.
Interviewer:  Boarding black boarding.
533:  Oh yeah yeah mm-hmm. Black board yeah yeah.
Interviewer:  You call it what?
533:  Black boarding yeah well you know so much black I mean you know it's uh uh you're talking about before the house is finished before they put the brick up?
Interviewer:  No I
533:  Is that what you mean?
Interviewer:  No I was talking about after it's done.
533:  Oh okay.
Interviewer:  The wooden boards that are
533:  Nah.
Interviewer:  Nothing like that?
533:  No particular terms just a plain house you know I mean.
Interviewer:  True.
533:  Yeah. {NW}
Interviewer:  What do you say you do uh uh well nevermind that. What about the signs on the edges of a roof. Those things that carry off the rainwater.
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What would you call those?
533:  {NW} Rain pipes. you know.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about say you know a house that has different slopes in the roof.
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  The place where two slopes come together.
533:  A gable. Is that what you're talking about? Kind of like the gable into the house? Yeah.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of a place where two slopes meet called a valley?
533:  No.
Interviewer:  What about gutters what would they?
533:  Eh well a gutter is like the rain trough a rain pipe you know. Rain trough is really was the was the word for that particular type of thing you were talking about. I was thinking you know comes through the trough and comes down the pipe you know. Um no. No not really.
Interviewer:  What about a small building you might have in the back of the house sort of if you were on a farm maybe where you keep um stowed wood or I keep tools something like that.
533:  Ah well tool shed. You know it depends like I said it depends on what it is you know. It could be a smokehouse. You know where they uh smoke the meats things like this could be a you know. Tractor shed. Uh you know we're basically similar. If it was a tractor shed it was a tractor shed. If it was a tool house it was a tool house you know. You kept the saws and then you know the hammers and the uh stuff like that you know in the in the in a tool house.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  And uh meats in the smokehouse.
Interviewer:  Right. What would be some of the buildings you'd find on a typical farm around here?
533:  Well you'd uh you have tractor shed and you'd have a shop. You know. Uh might even have a tool shed. You'd have a uh a couple of barns you know this kind of thing. Uh
Interviewer:  Would there be a separate building where you store grain like maybe corn or?
533:  Well There might be a building inside a building. For instance course there's corn how much you got if you just you know small timer you'd have a crib.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  You know like a corn crib that's where you it was an elev- it was elevated. The floor was higher than regular parts of the barn you know to keep away you know rats and crap like that. The ceiling was lower you know. It was tighter. That was the crib. Well you know actually it depends. But I mean if you had a you know like a fifty by fifty barn you probably had a twenty by ten or twenty by fifteen.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Maybe fifteen by fifteen crib you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Yeah.
533:  Course you could have the hay in the loft and you had stables down under see.
Interviewer:  For the horses?
533:  Mm-hmm. I'd have cows horses whatever right.
Interviewer:  Do you ever call it the stable stalls? Would that be right?
533:  Well {NW} A stall was uh just an area you know to stall them in you know. To me uh is a place where you you kept 'em you know in a holding. She put 'em in the stall you know. Like maybe when you went to lunch.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  But the stable was you know more or less like a living quarters.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Would people ever heard of having a separate building for cows? When they were would they say cow barn?
533:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 Something like that. #
533:  Mm-hmm. Well you know you might have a pig barn. Cow barn you know. Sure. Mm-hmm. Especially dairy farmers you know the cow barn does this you know.
Interviewer:  Sure. We were uh talking about the corn crib. Would people round here ever heard to something like a granary or granary
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  A place for storing grain?
533:  Nah uh-uh. That sounds Kansas.
Interviewer:  Right what about silo?
533:  Well silo yeah. You know but that's where you kept your silage.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh say if a farmer has just cut the hay off of his field uh and he's not going to bale it. He just might pile it up and get a big
533:  Uh haystack.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  But around here it's not well it's getting back to a little bit of that now because everything's so expensive. But you know I thought at first you were gonna say wind rows you know.
Interviewer:  And what is that?
533:  They rake it up you know after they just cut it and it's just laying out there in grass. You know just grass all over the place. And they roll it up into wind rows.
Interviewer:  Kind of like small
533:  Yeah. You know just like a it's like a roll.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
533:  #2 You know # just to maybe you know two feet wide but it will be a you know half a mile long. And then you see 'em coming along with a baler see and picking up more uniformly that way.
Interviewer:  Right. I noticed that. I never seen it done but they have these big rolls of hay.
533:  Right uh-huh right.
Interviewer:  Roll it up like you would a rug.
533:  They have several different kinds now yeah. They have 'em uh just the old conventional haystack but they're a little bit different there. You know scientifically it's designed so that the water'll run off and all that mess you know.
Interviewer:  Right yeah.
533:  And you'll lose about ten percent you know hay because certain part get wet and rot you know with the rest it will be okay.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Do you have any of these shelters outside that you might put your hay in under it. It's really nothing more than about four poles and a roof and that's about it.
533:  Mm-hmm. Hay yeah hay shed.
Interviewer:  Hay shed hmm okay. What about a place where a farmer would milk his cows? What would that
533:  That's a milk barn.
Interviewer:  You would have one. Would that'd be a specialized kind of building?
533:  Oh yeah milk barn you know. It's a somebody might call it a milk parlor. You know uh and that's where you get into parlor see. Uh in a milk barn you'll have a holding parlor where the cows come in you know that that's the next two or three that's gonna be milked you know. They specialize you know they automatic machines yeah. The shower.
Interviewer:  How often do you do stuff like that? {D: speaking engagement?}
533:  {NW} Quite often you know. That's you know I guess this is same with already because they think hey this guy loves to talk you know hey.
Auxiliary:  He used to be in the {D: war crowd}
533:  {NW} You know and uh But ninety nine percent of the time in a place like this you do it for nothing see. You go to places like Atlanta and Memphis and and knew a guy in Memphis you know. He made like a I don't know twelve or thirteen fourteen hundred dollars a month on air you know working a shift on the air. And then he had a special thing he did one day a week. For like some women's club and they had a thing at Goldsmith's. And he got a hundred dollars you know every time he did that you know. And he had a couple other things on the side you know so he could mess around and make thirty forty fifty thousand dollars a year you know just {C: radio} {NS} on stuff that I give away. {NS} You know but you can't go to a club you know with thirty-five local yokels you know and they say. Uh would you come speak to us you say sure you know. Well they don't expect they might get you a cuff link you know and hope you'll come back next year and get the other one. {NS} You know uh
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  So I don't know uh.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Too too often really you know to make it pleasurable because I've done everything from forestry forest-y queen contest rodeos uh election rallies uh God you name it. You know bicentennial programs uh. I've spoken on everything that I don't know about. {NS} Uh.
Interviewer:  Do you speak is it gravely or?
533:  Most of the time yes Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {X} {NS} {D: every speech every time}
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  For many
533:  Well the trick is don't speak the same club twice you know. {X} And if you do change it a little bit you know. Well you know the typical jokes {X} but once. You know about the old guy who tuned harps and cords and all that crap you know. And about thirty minutes later two or three people will laugh and they'll catch on on the opportunity knocks but once then you know. {NS} Uh you know and according to the crowd if you're in a bunch of men you know you can tell about the black girl who went to Chicago to see her cousin you know and {NS} she never been out of town and you know well out of the country. She went to see a ball game you know and she finally caught onto the baseball game and this guy got three strikes and they threw him out you know and another guy hit the ball and let him run all the way around and you know and everybody yelled and a man walks up and {NS} probably Willy Mays or somebody you know and they walked him on purpose you know. She jumped over the fence screaming and hollering and said hey man now what you mean? Just- just letting that guy that's all the way around there and didn't have to do nothing. He said look lady he had four balls on him. She said well good God almighty anybody with four balls deserves a little consideration don't it little special treatment. So you know it depends on your crowd you know you just. Uh that's a sports crowd and it's a bunch of old men and you know you can tell that. Uh photographers you'd tell one about uh you know the {NS} The uh {NS} uh the same routine you know. The black girl she went to town to see her cousin. And they went to the county fair walking around looking at all them things and the {NS} this guy went into this booth and put this thing over his head you know {NS} and said we gonna get our picture took and said okay when the guy got back you know put the black thing over his head and he was turning the knobs you know. She come says hey what's he doing said he's getting ready to focus. She said both of us?
Interviewer:  #1 [NW} #
533:  #2 You know # So uh you know yeah. You know just little dumb stuff like that you can change it around any way you want to you know. So it don't matter. {NS} But anyway yeah we do that a lot. You know all of us.
Interviewer:  I guess you have a set of jokes that have to do with your audience {X}
533:  Oh yeah just you know anything'll do there you know. Um you know at a ball game one time a {NS} Uh A guy from Ole Miss and a guy from Mississippi State were in the bathroom you know and uh. They were both standing there over the latrine you know just letting it fly and after they finished well they uh the guy from State zipped up his pants and started out the door you know. And that guy from Ole Miss Yeah {NS] {X} {NS} What were we talking about the Ole Miss thing? Oh yeah anyway they're in a bathroom you know {NS} And so the guy from State he zipped up his pants and started out the door. And the guy from Ole Miss you know he was over washing his hands in the lavatory. He said Hey uh Don't they teach you at Mississippi State to wash your hands off after you take a piss? And the guy from State turned around and said well don't they teach you over at Ole Miss not to be pissing on your hands? You know so you know just {NW} you know. Course you know there's light stuff and there's heavy stuff you know it's Uh there was one about a about a raccoon from Mississippi State and that raccoon from Ole Miss. That means the real live animal type not the you know the coon. You know and uh they were running out through the woods playing one day you know and the dogs got after 'em you know somebody was coon hunting so. And one of 'em got caught. They got caught in a trap {NW} you know. And they were sitting there and they looked at each other and the dogs were getting closer and closer you know {NS} One was on a trap on this side of the ditch and one's in a trap on the other side you know they're hollering back and forth. So what are we gonna do he said. I don't see anything left except chew a leg off and get free. {NS} So the little guy from you know State he li- you know the little raccoon from State chewed his leg off and went three legged out across the bushes you know. Just to running away you know. And uh after a little while he looks back and he didn't see his old pal from Ole Miss. {NS} So he just couldn't help it he had to go back so he three legged it all the way back you know. And he got up there and said what's wrong man what's wrong what's wrong come on come on they're getting close. He said well man I did what you told me. I chewed a leg off and now hell and then chewed off three and I'm still in the trap you know.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  So
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  Oh wow.
Interviewer:  Great.
533:  Yeah {D: kidneys} {NS} Anyway {NS} How did we get on that?
Interviewer:  I don't
533:  Boy, we get on some dealings. {NS} Don't you wish I was one of those guys that said yep. Nope.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  I hate those kind of interviews you know you interview a guy on the air and said well coach how's the season going this year? Fine. How do you expect 'em to win a lot of ball games? Yeah.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  Same defense as last year? Nope. You know I hate those you know. We- we try to after we get those one time we we try to learn 'em a little bit you know. And then we get to where we say This is Coach Noah McCorder of South {X} Cougar High S- you know and hand him the mic and he talks for fifteen minutes now. Well okay thank you- thank you coach and butt in and grab a mic from him and say well let's that's the end of the halftime show you know. Oh. But anyway yeah.
Interviewer:  In the days before refrigeration what did people around here do with milk butter stuff like that?
533:  Well uh it depends on how long before refrigeration is talking about? You talking bout like with an ice box?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  You know and that was uptown folks, though. So uh generally if you had a pail of uh milk you'd put it in a you uh had a you know it the milk cans that you probably don't remember but they had uh handles on both sides. And a hard to put on and to take off top. With a shoot on it. Then went {NW} way down in the bucket see. You know sealed it real tight. And you could run your chain through those hooks and over the top through the handles and over the top into the other handle and clip it and then drop it down in a well. See
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  They used to do their beers the same way you know.
Interviewer:  #1 Was there ever #
533:  #2 Whatever. #
Interviewer:  a place where people in stores save their potatoes {X}
533:  Uh well yeah it it depends like you said on on a lot on the people but you know a lot of people do that in the basement. Under the house in a smokehouse you know Excuse me in a warm spot you could put it under the house close to the hearth you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Close to the bottom of the chimney really. Uh you know because it was gonna be warm from you know about October to the first of March anyway.
Interviewer:  Um okay. What would you call an area maybe a round barn on a farm with animals to be free to walk around.
533:  Barn yard. Is that what you mean? The lot. The lot I wanna see you could be got 'em out of the pasture and put 'em in the lot you know. And uh after you had 'em in the lot you know you caught 'em and all that kind of stuff.
Interviewer:  So you with the pastures around here be fenced in?
533:  Mm-hmm. Yeah no ranges.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  No open range.
Interviewer:  And do you remember when I guess well that must have been
533:  When uh what when it was a {X} Never can remember it around here.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Uh really I can't you know. Some of the wildlife areas you know but. Not really no privately-owned property was always you know fenced in.
Interviewer:  Right who kind of fences are these?
533:  Barbed wire mostly. Which was then barb wire.
Interviewer:  Any other kind of wired fence?
533:  Well hog wire. Uh hog wire was uh well the weave in hog wire was about four inches square. And it's a heavy durable wire. Uh and that there's a one section if that is about four feet high three-and-a-half four feet high forty inches whatever that is. Okay and uh And then on top of that I mean above that you had that from the ground up. And uh then after that you had you know a couple of strands of barbed wire on the top. That's also and electric fence you know which is {D: one little bitty thin string} trailing like a piece of nylon but it was actually metal you know and you had a battery operated or electric {NW} uh you know to keep your mean black angus bull in. um but that was about it not many rail fences. The rail fence had to do with uptown slickers you know. If it had a white fence around it you already make it look like a ranch house you know. and everybody giggled when they went by and said poor fool couldn't milk a cow you know.
Interviewer:  What about a fence that uh the top of it came to a point. Might have it around your garden or have it around your front yard.
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {X} Usually painted white.
533:  Well like a picket fence you mean. Yeah but that wasn't it wasn't many of those around you know. Like I said
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  It was something to be read about you know. Kind of like condominiums.
Interviewer:  {NW} Does the expression to chop {X}
533:  Mm-hmm. Ah you're thinning it out really you know you're chopping the grass down away from it and you're chopping out the the superfluous stalks I guess you would say. You know they're thinning it out really for what you're doing chopping cotton.
Interviewer:  Do you pick what kind of grass uh?
533:  Uh Johnson grass crabgrass you know you're nut grass things that would uh they that suck up the the nutrients and grow fast and you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  Therefore dwarf the cotton plant.
Interviewer:  Hmm.
533:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What would you say corn grows in? It grows
533:  Stalks.
Interviewer:  #1 Well #
533:  #2 What do you mean? # Huh patch? A patch. Corn patch.
Interviewer:  Anything bigger than a patch?
533:  Field You know field's bigger than a patch.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  You know you have a a garden a patch and then you know a field.
Interviewer:  Can you have a patch of anything or is it restricted?
533:  {NW} You know patch of anything tomato patch potato patch you know uh corn patch pea patch butter bean patch. You know. Dog patch. {NW}
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  No, it's in Arkansas, right?
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  But anyway. You had a bar patch had you know a lot of those.
Interviewer:  If you're putting up about our fence
533:  Mm-hmm {NS} Where are we anyway? God, we lost a lot of time we're back on fences.
Interviewer:  We can uh read through
533:  It don't matter just sock it to us.
Interviewer:  Okay. The things that you uh dig holes for 'em and you put up a
533:  Post. Fence post.
Interviewer:  And if one is a?
533:  Is a post.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. And a fence or wall made of loose stone or rock? #
533:  #2 A fence or wall made of loose stone or rock. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
533:  #2 # Brick wall.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Oh yeah in North Alabama they have you know they get these things out of the river bed you know the rocks flat on the bottom cause they washed a lot but You don't have a lot of that around here. Uh you know stone walls stone fence you know I don't know.
Interviewer:  Okay. And {D: who wrote the bit about} the egg made out of China we call that a?
533:  A China egg, but I have never heard of a China egg. Styrofoam egg uh you know plastic eggs for little kids you know at Easter. You know when you put the little doohickeys in 'em or something for 'em to play with.
Interviewer:  But you're not never heard of nest eggs for like kids?
533:  Well uh a nest egg yeah. You know Uh which would be just an egg or maybe a. We used to to call 'em rotten eggs you know because you break 'em up and they you know they smell like hell you know.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  We used to get a big kick out of coloring those at Easter you know and then we'd always get in an Easter egg war. You know throw them at somebody you really didn't like is you throw the ball- the rotten egg at 'em. God and you talking about awful. Oh I gag thinking bout it. What could be worse than a rotten egg? I was hit in the face with manure one time during a barnyard war. But uh
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  It did. It was hard you know and it had to be hard for him to pick it up and throw it you know. You could just sail 'em like a mud pie you know. {NW} you know.
Interviewer:  {NW} Okay. And the thing that you would carry with you to milk a cow?
533:  Bucket. Milk bucket.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  You know it's uh not a milk pail. Because pale like I said is the color you turn when you're about to puke. You know.
Interviewer:  Anything that you would fry eggs in?
533:  A frying pan and a skillet.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh you boil tea in in a spout.
533:  {NW} Huh tea pot. Tea kettle. Most the most you know most of the time it was just boil it with a boiler you know. In a boiler.
Interviewer:  And a container to put cut flowers in?
533:  Cut flowers? Vase. If you're from Nova Scotia that would be vase wouldn't it?
Interviewer:  I guess so.
533:  {X} Crosby Still's a national you know uh power house. You picked the flowers you know.
Interviewer:  Yeah there's a lot
533:  Yeah they say vase you know.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And common utensils
533:  Uh fork spoon knife knives forks spoons uh what else did I say? Toothpicks you know.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  Match stems.
Interviewer:  And what you say you do to the dishes when they?
533:  You wash 'em.
Interviewer:  Uh uh and the thing over the the sink. Water comes out of it?
533:  That's a faucet. Just a water faucet. If it's you know outside it'd be a hydrant. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And what about all the portable containers?
533:  Well you know I don't know is spout you know maybe but it's still uh a faucet of sorts. But you know the water spout.
Interviewer:  And the word spicket or spigot
533:  Well spigot is used sometimes you know by some of the older you know folks but not really. A water spigot I think of anything that sticks up or down out of the ground or out of a wall or something and brings water to you as being a spigot you know.
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Could you say it was so cold last night that the water pipes?
533:  Froze.
Interviewer:  And maybe they?
533:  They busted. {NW} They grew tits you know they busted.
Interviewer:  {NW}.
533:  No. {NW} But you know it busted. Busted open.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh a container used to show flour in or packaging flour in?
533:  It's a flour barrel.
Interviewer:  Right. Okay something smaller than a barrel?
533:  It would be a keg. But that would be like a well like a nail keg or a whiskey keg you know.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh what uh a fair amount of molasses or lard would come in? {C: pronunciation}
533:  Come in a bucket probably a gallon bucket. You know there was you know lard bucket molasses bucket. {C: pronunciation} Uh that's molasses {C: pronunciation} S-E-Y Uh But you know it was different you know. Flour bucket lard bucket. You know slop bucket. Which we've already covered.
Interviewer:  And you weren't familiar with stand?
533:  No. A stand of lard no. That's a a live hog would be a stand of lard right Tanner?
Interviewer:  And is the thing that you put in a small mouth bottle that prevents uh
533:  A funnel. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Kay. What you crack around horses to do?
533:  That would be a whip or a whoop. You know. Depending on how loud it was.
Interviewer:  Right. And the thing that the grocery boy would put your purchases in?
533:  The uh you know just a sack. Grocery sack. And uh you know in some areas it might be called a poke.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Made out of?
533:  Um hard paper I mean you know something between uh uh a heavy grade of notebook paper and a light grade of cardboard. You know.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what made out of heavy coarse rough material?
533:  That's a toe sack. Burlap bags is a toe sack.
Interviewer:  And you haven't heard croker sack?
533:  Mm croker sack? I've never heard There's there's some croakers that live around here you know like the one on the Telly Savalas's show. Man croaker you know. But not croker. One who croaks is one who dies you know.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  So you couldn't be a croaker. Right?
Interviewer:  {NW} And the amount of corn a farmer would take to the mill to be ground?
533:  Huh No no particular designation as you know I mean maybe a ton a wagon load you know or something like that but no. Mm.
Interviewer:  That'd be amount of firewood you could take it at one time and move and move your arms.
533:  No that's just a arm load. You know just a arm load of fire wood.
Interviewer:  Yeah. And you
533:  Yeah
Interviewer:  And they would turn and cool?
533:  No. Mm-mm. Yeah. Sure not now a court of wood you know is four by four by eight you know in a measurement but uh I don't know. I don't how much can you carry? I guess it depends on how big your arms are. You might you know hell you might carry a quart if he's a whopper you know.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Hmm.
Interviewer:  And there
533:  Paul Bunyan.
Interviewer:  Sure. An electric lamp burns out the thing you replace?
533:  The light bulb.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Okay. And you uh carry out the clothes hang 'em up in a?
533:  In a hamper. Clothes hamper. Which actually usually amounts to a basket of sorts.
Interviewer:  Okay. And something that you put at the top of a bottle?
533:  Huh. Oh like a cork uh a stopper. You know rubber stopper cork stopper.
Interviewer:  And an instrument you play like {X}
533:  Uh French harp. A mouth Not a mouth harp harmonica you know. Harmonica is what they play if you're in Carnegie Hall. French harp's what you play if you're in Nashville you know what I mean.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  And a boing boing that's a mouth organ or a Jew's harp. It's hell on the teeth if you don't know what you're doing. {NW}
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about the thing that you got now playing?
533:  Claw hammer.
Interviewer:  Okay. And on a wagon the long piece?
533:  The tongue the wagon tongue.
Interviewer:  And on {NW}
533:  Yeah well shafts you know.
Interviewer:  And the outside edge of a window?
533:  The rim the wheel.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Is that what you mean?
Interviewer:  Yeah and you said you hadn't heard of {X}?
533:  No. no no.
Interviewer:  Just make sure there's a couple spokes
533:  No uh-uh.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Well see I never did see much of that because it was only like one or two of the wood wood tired wagon wood wheeled wagon or you know metal wagons uh metal wheel wagons around at that time. Uh boy this must be a visitor today who is this? I don't know.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Uh yeah and probably get a dime back.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  Huh no one who's taking him through. But anyway uh I'm going to have to take a break for just a second okay? {NS} {NW}
Interviewer:  Alright uh okay the thing that uh traces {X}
533:  Single tree {NW} Or a- or a doubletree. But you know instead of basically a singletree if you had a ton on it you ain't got a horse on each side so he's a single yeah.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  We also used to use a singletree hanging up on the side of the smoke house. That after you killed your you know your yearling your beef your calf whatever we call 'em yearling a bull yearling year old calf. Shoot him in the head with a twenty-two. And then uh drag him out to the smoke house. And take a pulley and pull 'em up and hang 'em up on a singletree.
Interviewer:  Hmm.
533:  Eh you know you cut him open and gut 'em and that kind of stuff you know.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  So you know it had multiple uses for everything back then you know what I mean?
Interviewer:  Sure alright {NS} okay that word {X} that you used just then. You would say yesterday I?
533:  I drug him over here yeah.
Interviewer:  And I have?
533:  I have dragged him I have drugged him you know really it's Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NW} What about the thing that you would use to break up ground very fine after you plow it?
533:  A harrow. Yep.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And
533:  First I'd use a middle buster. Well first I'd use a turning plow and then I'd use a middle buster.
Interviewer:  That's another type.
533:  Yeah right two different types of big plows. You know. And uh then I'd for all of that all for that I guess I'd risk it. Break it up. Depends on if it's new ground or what.
Interviewer:  New ground you uh mean that the land has just been cleared?
533:  Yeah land that hadn't been farmed very much you know maybe you know if it hadn't been cleared very long. But then once you call it the new ground it's always the new ground you know what I mean?
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  You cleared forty acres off in the back that's new ground and hell it'll probably be new ground till the day you die you know. Go on over to the new ground.
Interviewer:  Right. Okay. And the the thing that you wheel the wagon down to?
533:  Hmm the axle.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the wooden frame that carpenters use?
533:  Saw horse?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Yeah. Right.
Interviewer:  And the one that's x shaped?
533:  I don't know. That's a yoke I guess. I really don't know.
Interviewer:  You haven't heard it. Let's talk about {X}
533:  Nah.
Interviewer:  And on your hair you use a?
533:  Comb or a brush.
Interviewer:  Right you say you're going to a?
533:  I'm gonna brush my hair you know.
Interviewer:  And the thing on the barber's chair that you sharpen your?
533:  That's a razor strap. Right.
Interviewer:  The thing that we were going around with about the tape thing.
533:  Uh it's just a tape. You mean like you know like tape cartridge? I don't usually hear that. You know. Uh cartridge I don't know why but cartridge in in that sense reminds me more of the cassette type. You know. Because it looks like you know the cassette type of cartridge you know. Or the other is just a tape. Eh they're all cartridges but it's {NW} you know it's what you get used to talking about I guess. Tape is a tape. You know. Adhesive tape Scotch tape you know. Tapeworm I don't know {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay we're back on {X}.
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh something that you played on when you were a kid. While one kid was one one end the other was on the other and they like
533:  See-saw.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  I'm seesawing. Yeah I'd- teeter-tottered to me was something that you might do on the porch with your pants unzipped you know.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  Teeter-totter damn uh.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about the ones that went around?
533:  Uh that was a merry-go-round.
Interviewer:  You ever heard that called the flying Jimmy?
533:  Well not really. Flying Jimmy I always thought uh course that was back in the days before me. But a flying Jimmy I thought tilted a little bit when you You know when you did that you know.
Interviewer:  Yeah. I see you still haven't
533:  Yeah it- it still went around rotation but it- it tilted you know. Which gave it an effect of flying you know {NW} if the guy was heavy you know. And you could you could put like a wedge in you know on one side or something you know and whenever you got to that spot {NW} you know it'd bounce you a little bit. Makes you feel like you're flying.
Interviewer:  Okay. Ever heard of a word {X}
533:  Yeah we used to do that across the pond you know. But uh don't reckon we had any name for it.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  No. {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  A jump board is what I called a diving board until I went to my first concrete pool you know. Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  I knew a guy once that uh got thrown out of a hotel for for wetting in the pool.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  And uh they're- they're real country like this you know and that's supposed to stay down there about Monday you know and they come back on Sunday and uh this guy asked him said uh Willard why did you uh why did you come back so soon? And he said because sissy over here got thrown out for wetting in the pool. And he said wetting in the pool? And he said yeah man but everyone wets in the pool why'd you get thrown out for that? He said yeah but hell everyone don't do it from the high dive you know what I mean. {NW}
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Yeah right. {NW} Oh anyway you know so. That was a jump board to me. Jump board was a diving board.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about a thing suspending from the limb of the tree? Seats uh
533:  Oh that's a swing. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  If a person had a coal burning stove what about a container you might keep next to it for cooling it? What would you call that?
533:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Ever heard cold scope?
533:  No scuttle no. Coal bucket yeah but I mean you know. But um You had an ashy bucket. That you put your ashes in. We uh I don't know where you get all this stuff you know.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about the pipe that runs out the back {X}?
533:  Stove pipe.
Interviewer:  What's that what does that go into?
533:  Well usually goes into the wall which connects with another pipe and an elbow you know and go straight up through the ceiling you know.
Interviewer:  What's the {D: glue}?
533:  Uh kind of like a damper. {NW}
Interviewer:  What the hell is that?
533:  {D: Naw a flea} you know it's where it goes out the damper is a little there's a if you ever If you've ever seen one of about half way up the stove pipe there's a damper. There's a little doomajigger sticking out there that looks like a uh there might be a screw driver with a funny looking wiry head on it and you can turn it see and close it off. In other words cut the supply of suction off the oxygen off so that you can keep the heat down do you know what I mean? To build the fire up low and then you can {NW} let it out like that you know. Kind of like on top if you barbecue grill. You got a little thing you slide back and forth you know it works the same principle.
Interviewer:  Okay so what is it that you would use in yard work that has {X} might put a sack of concrete or something in it or wherever you're going with it.
533:  Hmm.
Interviewer:  You know.
533:  Yeah
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Oh yeah wheelbarrow. Well I was trying to think of a you know one of them little doomajiggers that you you know put the stuff out with you know like we used to line the football field with you know. Like a dolly. Yeah.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  {NW} Well we always say you know stuff around here like man you know get away from that you don't know nothing about wheelbarrows and other heavy machinery you know.
Interviewer:  That's good.
533:  Yeah. But it was a wheelbarrow {C: pronunciation} Wheelbarrow {C: pronunciation} B-A-R-R-E-L. wheelbarrow {C: pronunciation} It's fun to play with too you know. It was hell to try to hook 'em to a bicycle and try to pull 'em along that was fun. You know tie 'em up high enough that uh that their elbows wouldn't drag the ground you know. And they were going {NW} like that Weird, man. Got them going so fast that the- that the wheelbarrow would run over the bike you know and scoop the guy off. It was weird. It's a wonder we didn't all get killed. Some of us did.
Interviewer:  Okay what about a stone or rock that you could use to sharpen a knife?
533:  Well we call it a wit rock. But actually it's a whit rock. I'm sure. But it was a wit rock.
Interviewer:  What about something something bigger that turns around and you might
533:  A grind rock? Yeah. You sharpen your ax with. Grind rock.
Interviewer:  Say if I start a car started started squeaking. I might take in to the station and ask the guy to put it up on the rack and do what to it?
533:  Grease it.
Interviewer:  And if you do adjust it you say?
533:  He greased it. Got my car greased. I wouldn't say lubricated.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  That reminds me of the jelly you use on your honeymoon you know.
Interviewer:  {NW}
533:  Nah I'm kidding. That was a bad joke. I never used any of that yeah. Cause I was afraid somebody put you know a hypodermic in it and fill it full of Novocaine or something. Uh but anyway.
Interviewer:  That's true.
533:  Yeah wouldn't it be hell? Oh lord.
Interviewer:  You get this grease on your hands you say your hands are?
533:  Greasy.
Interviewer:  Right. Okay.
533:  Probably G-R-E-A-Z-Y. I don't know. Greasy
Interviewer:  If you're from the south.
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Um And if I had my in stage I might ask if he'd look up under my hood and check the?
533:  Oil.
Interviewer:  What about old fashioned lamps? Before they have electric lamps?
533:  Coal oil?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Yeah kerosene really was a you know technical term but it was a coal oil lamp coal oil. Which was one word.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of a makeshift lamp or a temporary lamp you could make with the bottles coal oil something like that?
533:  Yeah I've done that. I don't know what you would call it uh You know I know what you're talking about. No. We just call it you know you know African lamp or something like that you know. Nigger rigging.
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What about the inside part of the tire that inflates?
533:  Inner tube.
Interviewer:  And say if a man has a new boat and wants to check it out and takes it out of the water. When he's putting it in the water you say he's going to?
533:  Launch it you know.
Interviewer:  What about it? That kind of boat you would use out on the pond out here that you had to oil?
533:  Like a john boat?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  Paddle boat. You know.
Interviewer:  Is a John boat the same as a row boat? Have you ever seen that?
533:  Well I don't when I think of row boat You know I think of uh you know the the uh the Roman slaves out there you know Row row row your boat you know. Ten or fifteen of 'em. Yeah you know ten on one side ten on the other. Look. Look you know.
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  Yeah. By the way I think row row row your boat you know really. Uh there's a canoe and there's a boat you know and that's about it. Then there's a yacht. A yacht.
Interviewer:  A yacht.
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  A lot.
Interviewer:  Say if a woman wanted to make herself a dress. If she went to town to by the material by taking a little square piece. What do you call that? She's taking a little
533:  I don't know. Sample.
Interviewer:  Okay.
533:  Tear. No. Terry cloth.
Interviewer:  What about {X}?
533:  Prettier.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and uh {X}
533:  That's the prettiest.
Interviewer:  Okay. And something that you tie around your waist in the kitchen?
533:  Apron.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Okay. And this thing right here is an ink?
533:  That's a pen. Mm-hmm. Ink pen.
Interviewer:  The thing that you use to keep the baby's diaper together?
533:  A diaper pin.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh a type of metal maybe uh rooves of old houses you see out in the country.
533:  Tin.
Interviewer:  Okay you say a dime is worth?
533:  Yeah ten cents. But that's ten and other is tin.
Interviewer:  Right.
533:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What about a man's three-piece suit? You would say that consists what?
533:  The vest pants and a coat.
Interviewer:  Any other word for pants?
533:  Eh trousers but I had asked one of the ladies out front what trousers were the other day. And uh Trousers are the dressier britches you know like with a suit you actually get trousers you know the baggy crotch and all that stuff you know. That's trousers. And I hate trousers. Because uh I wear my pants about four inches below my navel you know. And uh trousers I can pull up right under my breasts. You know I no need to wear a shirt just wear a big tie.
Interviewer:  {NW} Sure okay.
533:  But yeah you know trousers uh britches britches That's what I called them all my life. You know.
Interviewer:  The farmers used to uh wear a light {X}
533:  Overalls. Mm-hmm some people call 'em overalls depends.
Interviewer:  Say if a if there's something around here I need I might ask would you please do that?
533:  Get it for me.
Interviewer:  Or?
533:  Eh bring it to me. Bring it to me. You just say fetch you know.
Interviewer:  Alright.
533:  Fetch it for me.
Interviewer:  Yesterday I
533:  Yeah, you brought it.
Interviewer:  Or I have
533:  Uh brought it or brung it.
Interviewer:  Say if I'm trying on clothes say a coat I might say well that coat won't fit this year but last year.
533:  It fit me yeah.
Interviewer:  And if my clothes are getting old and I need something to go to church in I'd say I need to go to town to buy me a?
533:  Sunday suit.
Interviewer:  Or it's not an old one but it's a.
533:  Oh a new suit yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if I put a lot of things in my pocket. My pocket would begin to?
533:  Yeah bulge. Poke out.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if you put a shirt that it's too hot for it it will
533:  Shrink up.
Interviewer:  Yesterday you did
533:  Yeah it shrunk.
Interviewer:  And?
533:  Or it shrunk up. Mm-hmm. Shrunk. It had shrunk before.
Interviewer:  Say if a girl was getting ready to go out on a date. And if she's spending a lot of time in front of the mirror.
533:  Primping.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
533:  He's p-
Interviewer:  {X}
533:  He's still primping.
Interviewer:  He's primping too?
533:  Yeah. Which is you know puss technology. Boys don't primp. They shave wash their hair and you know comb their eyebrows but a girl primps you know.
Interviewer:  What about the thing a girl carries all those things around in?
533:  That's a purse. They made that mistake one time and printed that wrong in a newspaper here. Left out the r {NW}. But anyways things like that happen.
Interviewer:  Okay and so
533:  The same editor was also writing a story about this guy These two guys that lived on a lived there their property line was the county line And anyway one of them killed the other. Over something you know and So they never could settle this property thing and I and both of them drank all the time you know. I don't know maybe they both had steels and you know just typical old country stuff you know. {X} And uh So and they couldn't even decide if they should try the case. Because the man shot crossed the county line and killed this neighbor you know. And it down by the fence. And uh And uh the story was hyphenated went onto another page anyways And uh it said Mr. Will should have crossed the county line. {NW} And boy it was just fantastic it He got a literary award you know for the blooper of the year. It was fantastic. you know I just love it you know.
Interviewer:  Oh man.
533:  You this is probably gonna be one hell of a interview you know what I mean.
Interviewer:  It's great. Talking about a thing a woman would want to wear around her wrist?
533:  That's a bracelet you know.
Interviewer:  The thing around her neck?
533:  A necklace.
Interviewer:  A collar uh something anything else besides a necklace?
533:  Well you know chain depends on what it is. You know but a necklace of course a brooch goes on her shirt. You know a necklace Well beads if it was beads. yeah but I mean a necklace can be a necklace without it being beads. Mm-hmm and the beads beads can be a necklace.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
533:  But this a different kind you know.
Interviewer:  Sure. What about these things made to use to help uh pull up their pants?
533:  Galluses suspenders.
Interviewer:  Right. Okay. It's something that you would use to keep from getting wet over your head.
533:  Umbrella. Some people call it a parasol and we used to jokingly call it a parabrella and an umbersol. You know just for the heck of it you know.
Interviewer:  Right. Does parasol {X}?
533:  I think so I. Parasol though I think of uh you know the little bitty cute thing that the lady in Greenwood carries in the summer time you know. Ta ta ta. Right mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  If you're making up a bed the last thing that goes over the bed
533:  That's a Bedspread.
Interviewer:  What about a very heavy thing you use in the winter time?
533:  Uh quilt. We use those in summer too. I mean you know for the most part keep on the bed in case it gets nippy or chilly.
Interviewer:  Right. {NW}
533:  Right.
Interviewer:  What about the you rest your head on?
533:  The pillow.
Interviewer:  What about have you ever seen something a good bit longer than a pillow?
533:  Hmm like a comforter? I mean
Interviewer:  Something like a pillow.
533:  Well you know there are comforter pillows You know actually the comforter is the part the kind of covers it's got under. I don't cushion?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Have you heard of both?
533:  No Bolster my ego now and then. You know but
Interviewer:  Something that you would make up on the floor for a kid whose
533:  A pallet.
Interviewer:  This adjective if a farmer says we expect to get a big crop this year because the soil is very?
533:  Rich?
Interviewer:  Okay {X}
533:  Well, fertile?
Interviewer:  Sure.
533:  But you know rich.
Interviewer:  What about uh land that {X} that might {X}?
533:  Bottom.
Interviewer:  Yes.
533:  Uh delta. You know. Round here it'd be bottom. Seventy miles west of here it'd be delta. Uh-huh. #1 Or prairie. #
Interviewer:  #2 Do people around here #
533:  It depends you know. Like I said.
Interviewer:  What would people around here call a grassland? A {X}?
533:  Pasture you know.
Interviewer:  Would they ever say another word?
533:  No.
Interviewer:  Down here
533:  Don't hear meadow. Mm-mm.
Interviewer:  What about land that's got water on it all the time trees growing out of it with beavers.
533:  Slew. That's a slew. Marsh. Slush. Basically a slew.
Interviewer:  That's same as swamp?
533:  Uh yeah but You know swamp is real real thick like the difference between a farce and a jungle you know.
Interviewer:  Different types of soil Have you ever heard anything like loam?
533:  Sure there's uh I was talking about the delta seventy west uh thirty east you got- you got loam. You know black loam. It's weird. The scientists never figured it out. Why loam like out in Kansas what it's doing in a {X}