Interviewer: {NW} 533: uh you know turtle girdle you know {NS} Interviewer: {NS} alrighty yeah an animal with a white stripe would be like smell pretty bad 533: that's a skunk Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah polecat polecat and a skunk's the same thing it's a skunk I guess if you see it a polecat if you smell it you know Interviewer: {NS} 533: damn I smell a polecat I doubt if a lot of people know what you meant when you s- if you said a polecat now though but it used to you know we'd go through a holler uh you know riding somewhere in a car and somebody would have probably an hour before a s- run over a polecat you know or a skunk and my daddy roll the window up damn smell that polecat you know uh Interviewer: a polecat 533: yeah that wouldn't be too good, dead polecat, in the middle of the road stinking to high heaven Interviewer: {NW} 533: Loudon Wainwright Interviewer: you ever hear that they'd call them a uh wood kitty 533: nah Interviewer: anything round here called a civet cat 533: a civic cat Interviewer: civet cat 533: oh no uh-uh Interviewer: {X} 533: no Interviewer: uh animals that would be bad about uh raiding the farmer's hen roost killing his chickens what would that 533: fox bobcat one or the other Interviewer: what about a general time like that say somebody get me a shotgun so I can take care of those 533: moochers Interviewer: mm-hmm 533: no Interviewer: okay do varmints do that 533: yeah varmints Interviewer: do people say that 533: yeah maybe you know in some instances yeah I I could be a varmint you know what I mean Interviewer: yeah 533: you know 533: some people varmint when they get sick {C: both starting to laugh} Interviewer: {NW} 533: #1 you get sick enough to varmint you know # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} right okay where were we uh what about different types of squirrels out here 533: well there's a gray squirrel and a fox squirrel and a flying squirrel and uh well that's about it you know Interviewer: is the red squirrel there different 533: well #1 uh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: the fox squirrel is the red squirrel I mean um in some instances they're you know a little bit bigger they're they're they seem to have bigger bone structure but as far as being Interviewer: #1 yeah # 533: #2 {NW} # more delicious or anything like that they're not you know it's just different variety and the flying squirrels are cute but I hadn't seen any since I was twel- well I'm about two or three times in my life is the only times I've ever seen flying squirrels not a bunch of 'em I don't know you know it's kind of a bastard bunch or something I mean I don't know what the deal is Interviewer: right have you ever heard of a squirrel called a boomer 533: nah a boomer is when you kick the football you know for sixty yards or something like that you know Interviewer: {NW} uh do you have the uh 533: yeah Interviewer: You have a thing around here kind of like a squirrel that is small and stays on the ground most the time has a big bushy tail 533: you mean like a chipmunk Interviewer: sure 533: no not really there aren't many chipmunks Interviewer: what are some of the common freshwater fish that'd you go fishing for 533: catfish, bass brim perch most people don't go k- fishing for perch they just usually wind up catching 'em you know there's nothing else biting {C: interviewer laughing} uh that's about it around here you know there's not many trout you gotta get into get Arkansas to get into the trout really the white river over there uh so it's catfish and then there's a channel of cat which is different from a regular cat sort of like the red fo- the red squirrel and you know and the gray squirrel Interviewer: what about these things people are talking about eating them half shell 533: oysters oysters {C: pronunciation like oys-chers} people who say crystal {C: pronunciation like crys-chul} chandelier would also say oysters {C: oys-chers} you know but it's oysters Interviewer: and these little fantails out here also come from the ocean 533: What do you mean shrimp? Interviewer: sure 533: yeah Interviewer: you would say one shrimp to 533: shrimp Interviewer: these animals that you hear around water make a croaking sound 533: frogs bullfrogs Interviewer: around water 533: yeah Interviewer: okay 533: mm Interviewer: what about those on dry land 533: nah it's just a frog there's a rain frog and a tree frog and a frog you know Interviewer: what's a rain frog or a tree frog 533: well a rain frog and a tree frog is probably about the same thing but I don't why sometimes after a a heavy rain you know there'd be a little bitty frog up against a tree you know {NW} {NW} {NW} you know Interviewer: you ever say toad toad frog 533: yeah toad frog uh there's a difference I know in a toad and a frog but toad frog that's what we used to call them as a kid you know Interviewer: uh talking about people going fishing if they were going to use live bait what would they use 533: worms or minnows {C: pronunciation like minners} minnows minnows {C: pronunciation like minners} you know like minnow cheese sandwich {C: pronunciation minnow as minner} yeah Interviewer: do people ever say around here ever say earthworm or 533: yeah earth worm mm-hmm but it's mostly just worm people are saying earth worm now since they came out with a special not too long ago about earthworm cookies and all of that stuff you know but there's earthworms and there's grub worms people use grubs you know sometimes #1 uh # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: grubs are awful squishy you get 'em on the hook and this yellow stuff starts running out of them you know an earthworm just wiggles or wriggles Interviewer: right 533: all the way through Interviewer: you ever heard of a nightcrawler 533: a nightcrawler is a certain kinda earthworm I mean there's red worms and earth worms and Interviewer: yeah 533: but uh nightcrawler is supposed to be about the best for catching catfish with him other than catfish Charlie #1 that stuff stinks man # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: mm Interviewer: they kill me I was trying to fish for catfish with that stuff and I couldn't can't keep the stuff on the hook I try to mix flour with it 533: #1 Well I guess I could pack it on # Interviewer: #2 keep it in the refrigerator # and everything well I had sack of flour with that stuff and it was still flying off the hook 533: did you have a hook with a spring on it you know that you st- Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah Interviewer: all that it felt like nothing was working there was a black dude down out a little ways and he he was using that stuff straight out of the cup I mean you know doesn't mind if I had catfish 533: #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # he just grabbed a a handful of that stuff slapped it on the hook pew it stayed on 533: #1 I don't know # Interviewer: #2 what in the world # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: maybe the constituency of your hand #1 oil didn't do it # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: uh they use chicken liver around here too you know Interviewer: yeah 533: mm-hmm #1 fishing # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: mm-hmm #1 and uh # Interviewer: #2 what about the # 533: I have fished with bacon Interviewer: bacon 533: you know a piece of fatback yeah when I was a kid we used to take you know fatback and uh you know used to especially if your worms were a little bit dry you'd s- chew you know we'd chew tobacco all our lives you know just a little and uh spit a little bit of that cannonball on it {NW} make 'em sweet you know and drop 'em in the water Interviewer: yeah 533: catch a fish every time Interviewer: {NW} what about this uh a kind of turtle that stays on land 533: mm just a turtle you mean like a terrapin Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah ah well terrapin would be the that kind you know and then there's a mud turtle that stays in the water you know and there's just a plain ol' damn ol' turtle I mean you know just a turtle Interviewer: have you ever heard of a turtle around here that really stunk stinking shell 533: no Interviewer: {X} 533: I know snapping turtles you know Interviewer: you ever hear people call a land turtle a cooter or a gopher 533: nah a gopher is a gopher Interviewer: gopher is a gopher 533: yeah Interviewer: {X} 533: yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm gophers a kind of match you use you know you get a gopher a pack of gophers from the bank you know they used to give away matches we call them gophers Interviewer: why 533: yeah well cuz in when you try to strike one you might as well go for #1 another one you know it's # Interviewer: #2 another one # {NW} 533: but I'm always you know hey man you got a pack of gophers on you you know I {NW} Interviewer: I heard a Twinkie called a gopher gopher this gopher that 533: oh yeah mm-hmm right Interviewer: what about out there in the woods that's got claws, looks a little like a lobster and stays in freshwater streams and swims way back some people use them in the bay some people eat 'em special 533: a crawfish oh yeah Interviewer: something like that 533: crayfish {X} crawfish {D: I have crawfish though} some people call them crawdads no Interviewer: alright a few insects these insects that you see a night that like to fly in circles around light any idea what they are 533: well there's a lot of them like that you know like candle flies Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah candle flies uh mostly course then you have um you know fireflies we used to call them lightning bugs Interviewer: right 533: {NW} #1 and uh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: we'd Interviewer: one 533: #1 catch # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: 'em and put 'em in a coke bottle you know put a whole bunch of them in a coke bottle and put a stick in the top of it a stopper put 'em in the closet you know watch the closet light up {NW} you know Interviewer: a light show 533: yeah right Interviewer: okay now what about one that eats holes in your clothes 533: nah that's a moth mm-hmm Interviewer: in the plural form you'd say 533: moths you know it's like you know the story some- I can't even remember it now something about some old lady and you know the snake skin and a mothballs you know and they say I know you lying now a moth ain't got no balls but anyway I can't remember but it's something like that you know {C: interviewer laughing} Interviewer: at least you got the punchline there 533: yeah {NW} Interviewer: what about insects that got a long thing body that have length 533: snake doctor Interviewer: sure 533: yeah I don't know what they are devil's horse snake doctor #1 what are # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 what are they # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # well dragonflies 533: yeah dragonflies yeah okay Interviewer: you ever hear people around here call them mosquito hawks 533: nah they eat mosquitos or something Interviewer: Some people claim they do 533: they look like a an old-timey unmodified helicopter you know Interviewer: {NW} 533: 'em gyro bugs you know Interviewer: what about insects that sting 533: eh a wasp, yellow jacket, bumble bee honey bee sweat bee sand fly, nit fly shit fly Interviewer: what about the ones that have a vicious sting and build paper nests 533: no that's a wasp red wasp Interviewer: well these these things build I mean sure enough big paper nests in trees 533: like a yellow jacket Interviewer: alright but they'll follow you you know they'll got after ya 533: oh yeah a yellow jacket they're just like a moccasin boy them sumbitches tough Interviewer: {NW} 533: that what you talking about oh you talking about a #1 hornet # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: oh a hornet mm well hornets not so bad right a- the only thing is they g- you know they go in droves you know a yellow jacket is just you know he's a real braggart you know he'll jump out there and get you and go back to the house but uh well well yeah but hornets you know they'll they'll come and get you usually the problem is that somebody'll knock the hornets nest down you know and it's the whole shit pot full of 'em that'll get you know what I mean and they can kill you you know that can really mess you up Interviewer: what about these insects that are a bad about burrowing under your skin make the skin itch 533: the red bugs chiggers yeah mm-hmm far as I know red bug and a chigger you know when you was little you know you'd s- that's the daily routine uh you go in the house and pull your clothes off and mama or daddy one of 'em you know scratches the red bugs out of your crotch you know Interviewer: {NW} 533: I mean you know it sounds silly but it was true because you know if you left them in there you'd you know you get raw and you scratch them and they bleed and the next thing you know you'd have impetigo and um everybody think you had smallpox and nobody'd come see you right Interviewer: {NW} what about different kinds of snakes around here 533: you got just about every kind in the world around here uh you got some real funny snakes you know you got chicken snakes and rat snakes and king snakes and garden snakes and garter snakes and you know none of which are poisonous they're all s- you know scare the shit out of you uh friend of mine got bit one time he was at home by himself which lot of us were back then uh you know parents worked then now uh he got bit by a snake and he immediately ran out toward the road and we lived on a road where you know if somebody was out there they were either going home or going to town I mean you know it wasn't just high traffic you know going down through there so he run out to the road and this old man that drives about twenty happened to be going down the road and he hollered and got him to stop and he took him to the hospital doctor said what kind of snake was it and he said "man I don't know it must have been a chicken snake cause when he bit me I ran" you know Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 533: #2 uh # but th- some of the most poisonous snakes in the world are right around here too the moccasin the water moccasin or a cotton mouth moccasin whatever you want to call 'em uh they are something else man you can smell 'em if you're sharp I mean you know if you get in an area where there's a lot of 'em and a couple of times in my lifetime I've known guys uh you know they go out in the country and they find an old pool and they build a s- you know jump board a b- a s- diving board and you know they get up there playing and they dive off in it and they land in a bed of moccasins and uh mm-hmm yeah and this one guy over close to Okolona must have been about twelve fourteen years ag- longer than that I guess yeah about fourteen years ago and he dived off out in an old pool and and jumped in a bed of moccasins I mean they just weave together you know it's just like just like earth worms you know and they just groove around in the water and uh and they just you know attacked him and just bit him all to pieces I mean just every part of his body was snake bit and you know almost immediate death uh because one of 'em bites you and if he really gets a good hook into you got about thirty minutes you know if you don't panic and of course we got rattlesnakes and we have rattlesnake pilots uh a rattlesnake pilot is kind of like a uh well it's a rattle snake but it doesn't have rattlers there is another name for 'em what is the other name for them um I can't think hmm I mean uh the scientific name yeah we call 'em rattlesnake pilots why I don't know they don't fly around or nothing and uh course there's black racers uh and a black racer is what it is just a black snake and uh and he's scared of you snakes are basically scared of y- you know anything and anybody and uh {NW} the black racer though if y- you know a lot of people see a snake and they'll take off running well that snake just happens to have n- just barely enough sense to f- chase you and he'll get right behind you boy just a getting it you know I guess he's thinks you're running away from whatever it is he's running away from you know and he comes with you and um but a chicken snake they'll eat an egg they'll eat a rat you know and uh king snakes uh eat other snakes you know and um lot of 'em are colored the same there is a spreading adder a spreading adder which we call a spreading adder and they're poisonous to an extent uh I came upon one in a ditch one time on my bicycle and uh I saw him and I stopped and when I did his head just flattened out it's you know kinda like a cobra in a way his head will just flatten out and you can hear {NW} {NW} like that and he'll jump up there and get you I mean you know um snakes let's see what other kinds of snakes I mean that's that's about it there's some coral snakes around but they're mostly in south Mississippi and I'd hate to come up on one you know uh there are some yeah what is it red on black black on yellow he's a nasty fellow I don't know if it's a snake stomp that son of a bitch that's what I you know I don't care right Interviewer: what about these insects that are some are green some are black they hop around in your yard 533: grasshoppers yeah katydids Interviewer: you ever heard any other name for a grasshopper 533: mm probably uh {D: gonna} come right off the top of my head Interviewer: what if I turned around and said bug grass 533: no well I've heard it but I mean you know it's just don't use it Interviewer: these things that um not insects or anything this stuff that gathers in the corners 533: spider web Interviewer: yeah is that like the same thing you see outside or between two bushes 533: yeah it's about the same they call 'em cobwebs when they're up you know in the house or something like that you know cobwebs Interviewer: is that the same 533: yes well it's done by the same type of folks you know spider Interviewer: what about the part of the tree that grows close to the ground 533: roots Interviewer: you ever heard of any medicinal uses of that stuff 533: oh man yeah lots of it uh well I think I told you about my grandmother that buried some kind of roots and got rid of warts you know then there's a sassafras root sassafras tree I don't know if you're familiar with that but you can make tea out of it sassafras tea which is pretty good you ever chew the tea berry gum you know the tea berry shuffle alright that's made out it's got a sassafras taste and um um you know they used to say you could rub that on drink it you know it's kinda like uh I don't know it's some type of medicinal use mostly I think it was uh {NW} {D: alamanic} in meaning that it had uh w- a drawing effect you know kinda like persimmons you know looks to me like you could bite a green persimmon rub it on a leg where a snake bit it and it'd suck all the poison out you know {NW} #1 but I guess it wouldn't # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 yeah yeah but you know it # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: should Interviewer: {NW} 533: worth a try it's makes as much sense as bleeding George Washington get all that bad blood out of him kill that sucker you know Interviewer: what about the kind of tree that you keep to preserve 533: a maple tree you know no that's what Maine you know Vermont #1 New Hampshire # Interviewer: #2 what would you # call a number of those trees growing together 533: be a grove yeah or a thicket {D: it's according to} uh there's a pine thicket you know if you got a bunch of little bitty trees and they're real thick you know it'd be called a pine thicket but if it's big trees it would be a grove you know a grove of elm trees and you know uh Interviewer: what kind of trees they got growing around here 533: well you have oak you got all the varieties of oak white oak post oak water oak pin oak you know red oak black oak {NW} um you also got hickory and uh scaly bark you know pine loblolly pine long leaf pine short leaf pine white pine uh you know a few cedars uh a catalpa or two the one that grows horse apples that's a catalpa tree isn't it yeah um you know walnut trees you know locust trees they got big stickers on 'em and of course mulberry uh you know plum eh just lot of those but you don't have you have a few silver leaf maples and a few elm trees uh Interviewer: what about the state tree of Mississippi 533: hmm Interviewer: state tree of Mississippi 533: oh the state tree I thought you was talking about you know stay free I uh didn't know they grew on trees uh state tree's a magnolia you know and you have a few of those they're beautiful man it's really nice course you have mimosas and sloppy mimosas and weeping willows and uh you know the willows that grow down by the creek and that kinda stuff you know and uh Interviewer: did you have any sycamores 533: not not many no we got a few now and then but I don't know why Interviewer: can you say that for me 533: what sycamore? yeah in the sycamore tree {C: singing} Interviewer: what kind of bush grows out here crawls on the walls maybe 533: well there's a laurel tree you know and uh there's a Laurel Mississippi and I don't know if that's where it got it's name I doubt that Tupelo got it's name from the tupelo tree you know but uh there is a certain that kind of tree but I'm not familiar with it you know I wouldn't know if I walked upon it hey that's a laurel laurel is what I'm sitting on right now know you know uh that's all I know you know {NW} Interviewer: you heard of rhododendron 533: I've heard the name but it's mostly in flower shops that I've heard it you know little sprigs you know Interviewer: what about uh what about the type of tree that is in Washington you know 533: uh that's a cherry tree yeah Interviewer: you ever heard of a bush around here called the sumac or shumac? 533: I've heard of it yeah but uh sumac yeah no hmm I figure some kind of funky flower that grows in the yard like a crab apple bush or something like that you know Interviewer: what about the stuff you can get into to make your skin break up 533: poison oak poison ivy we always called it poison oak you know and then somebody invented the word poison ivy same thing grows like ivy and it looks like oak and it will make you itch like a booger boy ain't nothing that'll help except calamine lotion tell you a little story about a cousin of mine you know me I'm Tell you all kind of stories but this is true the same one who hit me in the face with a cow pile uh when we was having uh yeah when we was having a war {D: out there} in around the corn cobs you know he hit me in the face with a dried cow pile it sailed you know {NW} and hit me right in the face god I gagged you know but anyway uh you know like I said we didn't have everybody didn't have bathrooms and we were out in the woods one day playing and it was nothing to crawl up in the yoke of a tree and drop your pants you know and splatter the ground and uh so we were out somewhere you know and his time came and uh and so uh he just grabbed a handful of leaves to wipe himself clean with you know which wasn't uncommon either and as luck would have it and I think maybe he was about five or six and he got a handful of poison oak and oh that kid had the itch his poor little ass oh man it was awful I mean it was bad he couldn't wear any clothes you know he just had to lay in the house with his rear in the air you know jeez it was weird {D: but yeah} Interviewer: what about different kinds of berries grown around here 533: we have strawberries blackberries bull- uh p- mulberries blueberries and uh you know course strawberries you know possum grapes new grapes you know wild grapes possum grapes are good you got muscadines a lot of people call 'em scuppernongs I guess there may be a difference in a scuppernong and a muscadine I think something about {NW} uh the time of year that they mature you know but um muscadine wine is some kind of fine it's muscadine but we call it muscadine {C: pronunciation like musky dime} you know kinda like a {D: enkidime} I guess Interviewer: huh okay what about a raspberry 533: I don't think I've ever seen a raspberry bush a mulberry is uh is a lot like a raspberry {NS} and of course dewberries which are a lot like new grapes that they just grow on the ground possum grapes are real good if you ever get a chance to eat some possum grapes used to have a possum grape vine in the front yard in an old tree they're kinda tangy but they're little bitty you know now there's some roy- uh boysenberries and there are also some poison berries uh growing some that look like a poke salad vine but they're poison and uh that's what I always thought people was talking about poison berries you know instead of boysenberries {NW} {D: yeah} Interviewer: getting into something a little different uh say if you went somewhere with your wife someone asked her who you were she would say that's 533: that's my husband hmm Interviewer: okay any other names you have for 'em joking or otherwise you have for that a husband that's 533: well that's my old man you know that's my old lady that's my old man that's my husband that's my man that's my lady you know Interviewer: what about a woman who's husband has died what do you call her 533: well she's a widow yeah Interviewer: any term you've heard for a woman whose husband hasn't died but he's just gone he just left 533: hmm {D: well} yeah a lot of names for it cause I figure I got a reas- uh he had he got a reason for leaving you know but uh not in particular I mean just common stuff you know Interviewer: what about grass widow 533: nah no unless thats why he left you know too much grass {NW} Interviewer: so the man whose raised you that's your 533: that's my daddy and uh older people call him papa but it's daddy we don't use the word father this is my father somebody does that I think eh you know been to college huh Interviewer: what about mother 533: yeah that's mother mama #1 and a little bitty guy say # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: yeah hardly ever use the word father I don't think I've ever called my daddy father uh and I wouldn't I just I don't like the connotation that goes with father you know Interviewer: that a reading process 533: well I don't know father you know I I'd just as soon call him sire you know if I was gonna call him father {D: you know} I wouldn't call my mother damn but I might say damn mother you know if she did something but Interviewer: uh-huh 533: but uh mother uh yeah we use that some but mama Interviewer: say a name that a child is known by just within the family you would say he has a 533: he's got a nickname yeah which is ridiculous #1 I mean # Interviewer: #2 you mean the # concept or 533: well you know like uh these people in the in the church here you know they had had a kid not long ago and I don't know what the name was but it was named like and he was just born and he already had a nickname you know it was like James Robert Johnson Junior in parentheses tubby or chubby or funky or monkey or something like that you know I thought shit why don't you name him that you know what I mean uh I hate these people that uh that name their kids you know uh John Bartholomew you know Stevenson and they call him you know Franky all his life that's w- stupid man you know that they would give me a complex of course my name is Ricky Joe you know and I use Rick just for simple you know to be on the air with you know and people call me Rick but uh uh it bugs me to go somewhere and people say no I mean what's your real name and I say Rick Ricky Ricky no I said no I mean you know Richard uh you know say hell no it ain't Richard if it was Richard you'd call me Richard you know um I mean whatever I name him that's what I'm gon' call him you know if it's uh you know stud blood that's gonna be his name you know {NS} because I mean you know when a kid goes to college or even when he first starts to school you know that's what they are gonna call him and uh you know Charles Michael and all their life they call him Mikey and when he goes to college or he goes and gets in the armed services it's gonna be Charles M you know so he might as well get used to it from the start name him Michael Charles if your gonna call him mike David Charles you know Interviewer: what about the thing you can put a baby in and lie down it has wheels 533: bassinet #1 a carriage # Interviewer: #2 um yeah # 533: stroller Interviewer: uh-huh 533: yeah Interviewer: what would you say you gotta do with the baby in the stroller and go out 533: mm-hmm stroll around take a walk you know push him around really is what I'd be doing {NS} Interviewer: talking about if you had to use the 533: {NS} Interviewer: word the term growing up here it's like Matt has three children uh ones twenty ones fifteen ones ten 533: mm-hmm Interviewer: talking about in terms of being grown up you'd say one who's twenty is the 533: uh oldest Interviewer: or if you had to use grown up in there 533: hmm well the one he's the grown up one yeah yeah yeah he's got grown younguns you know right Interviewer: fine okay talking about a woman who is pregnant have you ever heard of any other term for that she is 533: uh she's expecting you know P-G uh got knocked up swallowed a watermelon you know Interviewer: those would be joking 533: yeah you know it's I'd say eh did you see Gladys Fae she swallowed a watermelon {D: you know and it was ripe} but yeah pregnant expecting uh you know this kind of thing Interviewer: what about a woman that might be called ill or delirious woman with a doctor 533: uh a midwife mm-hmm Interviewer: you say if a boy same eyes or same hair color as his father would you say their nose are a bout the same 533: he took after his daddy the man marked him up real good you know mm-hmm Interviewer: would you say anything 533: {NW} {NS} Interviewer: if the boy inherited his father's bad ethics 533: well he got that from his daddy you know and just took it natural mm-hmm got it honest that's another one {NS} Interviewer: say uh this this adjective you might say Jane is a loving child but Peggy is even a lot 533: a lot sweeter you know a lot sweeter a lot nicer #1 a lot more # Interviewer: #2 how would you # 533: loving Interviewer: sure 533: yeah Interviewer: alright now if a child lost both of his parents you'd say he what 533: hmm lonesome #1 probably huh # Interviewer: #2 well # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # a noun for it he's a 533: he's an orphan I guess yeah Interviewer: what about the adult appointed to look after him 533: eh guardian foster parent #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # alright a few proper names one for a girl beginning with an M Washington one would think 533: uh Martha Interviewer: what about a woman's name that begins with an N uh in the song goes way to the sunshine hear it every time you 533: uh Nelamie {C: interviewer laughing} Interviewer: {NW} it's short for Helen uh 533: I don't know Interviewer: alright 533: #1 nah # Interviewer: #2 N-E # double L Y 533: Nelly Interviewer: okay 533: uh Interviewer: just wanted 533: #1 thought that was short for # Interviewer: #2 pronunciation there # 533: Nelda you know Interviewer: maybe what about a male goat you call that uh 533: that's a ram Interviewer: alright what kind of goat 533: billy goat #1 here yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: billy goat and a nanny goat Interviewer: alright and a man's name begins with an M that Matt would be short for 533: Matthew Interviewer: mm-hmm whats the name 533: {NW} Interviewer: what the name begins with S wife of Abraham in the bible 533: Sarah Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah Interviewer: yeah what would you call a woman who teaches school she's a 533: now she's a teacher not a schoolmarm yeah Interviewer: what is what do you when somebody says schoolmarm do you think of anything in particular 533: well I think of an old old time you know when one woman taught a bunch of kids you know Interviewer: yeah old country 533: yeah one school one room school I mean Interviewer: yeah what about uh American author wrote the in mid eighteen hundreds his name is James Fenimore 533: Cooper Interviewer: yep how would you address a married woman who had that last name 533: mrs Cooper or Cooper depending you know I guess uh Interviewer: how do you tell? 533: well you know how they different people for different #1 {D: things you know} # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: some people around here you know their kin folks one's a Peaton the other's a Peyton you know you just have to know Interviewer: yeah okay so yeah a preacher who's not really trained to be a preacher uh does something for a living really and is really not very good at it you ever heard any names for him 533: hmm yeah but probably not what you're looking for Interviewer: you ever heard of jackleg 533: {D: yeah} jack- jackleg preacher I've heard of that yeah I didn't know what they were talking about I just figured it was a guy who you know got his leg blowed off #1 or something you know # Interviewer: #2 okay # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: jackleg preacher 533: the reverend mr black that type of thing right Interviewer: right say if my father had a brother named William he would be my 533: your uncle Bill probably yeah Interviewer: or if using his full name it would be 533: uncle William Interviewer: what about one named John 533: my uncle John uncle John's outhouse {D: yeah right} Interviewer: {NW} 533: that old saying you know Interviewer: uh Robert E Lee's rank in the army he was a 533: he was a general wasn't he Interviewer: okay and the guy that pushes Kentucky fried chicken he is the 533: colonel Sanders Interviewer: and the man who's in charge of the ship he is the 533: admiral I guess or captain Interviewer: and someone that goes to school to study he is the 533: student Interviewer: right and a woman who does photography and filing and that sort of thing 533: mm secretary pornographer no I mean stenographer you know {C: interviewer laughing} Interviewer: okay uh a woman that appears on the stage you call her a 533: actress {NS} Interviewer: say if it's uh you are at a party and you look at your watch and it's eleven thirty or so you might say well uh we better be getting home it's 533: it's getting late getting close to midnight about midnight Interviewer: lets see 533: if I was joking I'd say pertineer you know Interviewer: say if it's winter and the side walks are iced over you might say something like well um I managed to to keep my balance but two or three times I 533: #1 uh # Interviewer: #2 fell down # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: almost slipped down like to slip down Interviewer: if we're going somewhere {NS} uh I call up you aren't you ready yet 533: mm-hmm Interviewer: you might say well I'll be with you 533: I'll be with ya in just a minute yeah Interviewer: and talking about the number of times somebody does something might go to town might ask well how you do 533: how often you go Interviewer: right 533: how many times a day you make the trip mm-hmm Interviewer: now some parts of the body what do you call up here 533: that's a forehead some people call it the forehead and they get it mixed up and call it the forward Interviewer: {NW} 533: that bugs me you know right there on my forward Interviewer: the forward 533: you know the only thing I'd poke s- forward other than my finger you know you don't need to be seeing anyway so you know it's a forehead yeah Interviewer: okay and if I let this grow out 533: yeah beard yeah Interviewer: this is my 533: that's your ear Interviewer: which one 533: uh that's your right ear yeah left ear some people say year of corn Y-E-A-R #1 you know # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 533: been washing your years? you know Interviewer: and uh I got a mouthful 533: yeah teeth Interviewer: but one 533: tooth Interviewer: okay the pink part 533: that's gums Interviewer: alright this is um 533: fist Interviewer: make two 533: yeah fists Interviewer: what about this part of the hand 533: palm Interviewer: when people get old they complain they get sore in their 533: elbow mm Interviewer: any place where two bones meet 533: oh joints yeah Interviewer: okay now that part of a man's body 533: chest Interviewer: and if it's broad 533: yeah shoulders uh Interviewer: okay that's my right 533: foot Interviewer: okay what about this part right here 533: that's your shins back of that's a calf I guess right Interviewer: what about this part 533: uh what your thigh? Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah Interviewer: say if a kid was gonna scare me like by getting behind the couch 533: mm-hmm Interviewer: jump up and scare me say he'd do what to conceal himself 533: hide Interviewer: or 533: you know slump down Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah scoot down yeah squat down I guess maybe it's according to how it was Interviewer: you ever heard anybody say hunker down 533: oh yeah uh-huh hunker down though is is kinda like if you was getting down on the ground you know just hunkering down you know not really putting your feet down you just squat down and you're you know like whittling talking chewing tobacco you know with the old man you know you #1 hunker down # Interviewer: #2 oh # 533: you know Interviewer: kinda like a catcher 533: yeah yeah a catcher hunkers down you know he keeps actually he's still on both feet but he just got his tail hanging down to about his ankles you know what I mean Interviewer: right 533: yeah that's a hunker Interviewer: you ever hear somebody in these parts called the hunkers 533: no that's your laurels ain't it you know we was talking about laurels a while ago right {C: interviewer laughing} Interviewer: {X} hold onto 533: yeah haunches I've heard that you know back on his haunches Interviewer: okay 533: yeah Interviewer: now if this expression if somebody gets sick you might say well um so its the gout but he still looks a little bit 533: mm looks a little bit pale feeling poor puny you know looks a little bit puny Interviewer: okay now if a man was able to lift heavy weights you would say he 533: stout strong {NS} Interviewer: what about a man that always goes around he's got a smile on his face and all and nice to say about people you say he might 533: {NS} friendly cordial yeah good-natured {NS} light-hearted {NW} Interviewer: a boy 533: {NW} Interviewer: when he reaches a certain age sometimes he moves around he does things tripping over his own feet 533: #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 you'd say he's # mighty 533: clumsy Interviewer: what about a 533: lanky sometimes you know has to do with Interviewer: right what about a person who doesn't seem to do things that make any sense you say he's just a plane 533: idiot dummy dumbbell Interviewer: {NS} what about fool just plain fool 533: nah fool has to do more with your decisions I think you know you know if you decide to go down this road doing a hundred fifty mile an hour knowing that you know there's tractors mowing the side out there then you're a fool #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 is that a # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # were you ever taught that that was a 533: #1 you do not say fool # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: you do not say fool the bible says you'll go to hell for saying fool if you call your brother a fool not necessarily meaning your blood brother but you know yeah what did I think that means you know you putting yourself in the seat of judgment saying hey you know I'm big chief and uh you a fool you know I think that's what's basically it I don't my kids say that and I thump their head and I can put the thump on 'em Interviewer: {NW} that size twelve ring {D} 533: mm I just do it with my finger kinda rattle their brain a little bit wife don't like that but it works Interviewer: what about a man that has a light 533: {NS} Interviewer: likes to hang on to it you say he's a 533: miser tightwad stingy Interviewer: say if I said this uh talking about somebody oh so and so's just as common as he could be what would you take that to mean 533: well just a regular fella I mean you know he uh just like just like everybody else {D: tryna} keep public just you know regular guy Interviewer: did you ever take 533: {NW} Interviewer: say something derogatory like I were talking to a girl and she's calling me {D} 533: no I would think of homely in that sense I wouldn't think of common property or nothing like that you know Interviewer: yeah 533: common whore now that would be something different you know Interviewer: say a person uh an elderly person maybe uh in his nineties but still able to care for himself and you'd say well I don't care how old he is he's still mighty 533: feisty uh peert pert spunky yeah uh-huh Interviewer: okay say if uh the children are out later than usual uh one might something like well I'm not gonna say anything wrong but I can't help feeling a little 533: worried Interviewer: mm-hmm you wouldn't say she felt easy about it 533: #1 nah she kinda # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: feels uneasy yeah Interviewer: say your talking about somebody who uh isn't afraid now you might say well she's not afraid now but she's 533: eh she probably will be Interviewer: or talking about the past 533: or she used to be Interviewer: sure 533: yeah Interviewer: what about uh the opposite of that you'd say well I don't understand why she's afraid now she's 533: she didn't used to be Interviewer: sure uh somebody that needs a lot of money thats lying around in plain view if the doors open you say he's always 533: that's stupid or he's you know trusting but really I'd say dumb I mean you know #1 you wouldn't do # Interviewer: #2 if he's not c- # careful about it he's 533: nah he's careless Interviewer: say if I have uh-huh uh this I might say about her well there's really wrong so and so suggesting every now and then she acts a little 533: yeah I know I have some of those too you don't really have to say anything else right {C: interviewer laughing} uh I don't know depends on how what #1 what are you # Interviewer: #2 talking # about well just odd 533: mean mentally Interviewer: eccentric no not necessarily peculiar behavior um a little unorthodox 533: eh weird you know a little spooky Interviewer: would you ever us the word queer there the word queer 533: well older people would you know uh just like uh sometimes the boss will write a write a uh commercial here about the gay colors of this that and the other you know uh you know but peculiar queer they call it queer you know boy sure is queer Interviewer: but the word required of 533: yeah they've acquired a nasty connotation now you know people don't use them anymore you know Interviewer: yeah reserved for homosexual 533: #1 yeah right you know # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: queer is a queer I mean you know he could be unusual and not be a queer #1 but he # Interviewer: #2 right # 533: couldn't be a queer and not be unusual you know Interviewer: somebody who makes up his mind and refuses to change it 533: #1 hard headed # Interviewer: #2 {X} # yeah 533: stubborn bull headed Interviewer: what about someone you can't joke with without him losing his temper 533: touchy touchy Interviewer: and someone whose like that and you don't want him to lose his temper you just say now hold on 533: simmer down calm down I don't think you can simmer down that's like thawing up I mean you know uh you got the th- you know Interviewer: talking about a person being tired an extreme case of it you'd say 533: wore out tuckered out petered out shot Interviewer: uh some body you hear is in the hospital and I said well uh that's funny there wasn't any 533: got sick took ill Interviewer: say if you were going somewhere and your not in any particular hurry to get there you might say uh well get there 533: sooner or later you know just moseying along you mean taking it easy after awhile Interviewer: you ever hear people say by and by 533: yeah not really that's in songs mostly g- directly we used to work directly don't worry about it we'll get there directly you know Interviewer: what about somebody who got very hot uh outside work and came into uh air conditioned room and chilled so if I started ordering you probably say he's doing what {NS} {X} 533: took a chill Interviewer: or he talking about the combination 533: uh he got a cold you know he took a cold and he got l- laryngitis sore throat Interviewer: now he's a little bit 533: hoarse mm-hmm Interviewer: if he {NS} does that he's got a 533: he's got a ma- a cough yeah hark hark thats when you {NW} {NW} that's harking #1 yep # Interviewer: #2 okay # 533: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 533: my daddy uh used to do that a lot still does my mother was on the tenth floor of the baptist hospital in Memphis I was about ten years old you know and I kept you know she was laying there semiconscious and she said well daddy'll be here in a little while I said why and she said listen I didn't hear it I said well she said I just heard him harking and sure enough you know she got up there and he he said um he got up there and she said I hear you harking before you got come in the building he said yeah you know Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 533: #2 yeah you know # Huffman trait I guess Interviewer: {X} 533: yeah Interviewer: toward the end of the day I might say well I better go now I'm feeling a bit 533: weary tired sleepy Interviewer: but it's six o'clock in the morning I'll 533: wake up Interviewer: talking about somebody else who might be sleeping you might say so and so still in bed you better go 533: wake him up yeah Interviewer: say if you get some medicine uh next to your bed and you can't quite tell 'em well how about you 533: why ain't you taken it yeah probably say why you didn't why'd you not take it you know he hadn't took it yet Interviewer: somebody who um that has trouble hearing you say he's just about stone 533: deaf my daddy says deaf {C: pronunciation} mm-hmm Interviewer: and if you've been working out in the hot sun all day you might bring in your wring it out and say well who can I 533: sweated that's when you're wringing wet wringing wet with sweat Interviewer: {X} 533: Did you ever get sweat beads around your neck and under your arms? Interviewer: yeah when I was young but I don't get those anymore 533: #1 I don't know # Interviewer: #2 I don't know why # 533: well now we take a bath about twice a day, you know back then we didn't you know Interviewer: Yeah 533: I mean you know, really we didn't the thing that you did at night you washed your hands before you ate and you washed your feet before you went to bed the hell with the rest of it you know and was a good thing there wasn't many ticks around back then you know, we'd all die but you know we used to get sweat beads, that's what we called 'em Interviewer: {X} 533: yeah Interviewer: what about uh these things you might get on your arm in big 533: wart Interviewer: or something with i think 533: oh you mean like a rise in Interviewer: yeah 533: eh, some people call 'em boils in Louisiana they call 'em boils that's a rising Interviewer: can't quite step through all that 533: pus goop you know if it's uh got a core in it then you call it a core uh you know the hard part Interviewer: you ever heard one with a lot of heads called anything they got one with multiple heads 533: I've never had one of those Interviewer: carbuncle well I've heard of the word carbuncle, I never knew what it was um if you have a blister a what about the side and all that 533: yeah uh I don't know just you know pus Interviewer: {X} 533: yeah you know {D: skiff is a} water blister you know yeah you can call it you know what is the other word um aw hell used to be a word I can't think of it but I use it all the time yeah corruption got corruption in it mm-hmm Interviewer: say if a bee stung you in the hand and it got bigger and you got to save my hand 533: swelled up mm Interviewer: or it has 533: has swelled up {NW} Interviewer: {X} 533: no Interviewer: might 533: might swell Interviewer: if uh a man got an accidentally shot or stabbed you take him to the doctor so the doctor could treat him 533: wound mm-hmm we had an old preacher one time who called it wound yeah the wounds Interviewer: It was wounded 533: it was wounded Interviewer: {X} 533: I don't know Interviewer: say if a wound doesn't heal cleanly you might get a kind of granular flesh growing around it 533: scar Interviewer: okay you ever heard it called any particular type of flesh brown flesh 533: no nuh-uh no Interviewer: can you say it for me then 533: proud flesh that's uh somebody that was you know they had a couple of million bucks that his daddy lost it all in gambling you know but he's still proud flesh kept walking high and wearing his good suit you know he didn't let it get him down Interviewer: Do you ever use that word? 533: yeah I mean on proud flesh she wouldn't give it to everybody she was proud flesh {C: laughter} Interviewer: what about this brown liquid you might put on for an infection 533: brown Mercurochrome merthiolate that's red iodine iodine Interviewer: what about a white powder that's supposed to help with malaria 533: I don't know I've never had malaria mer- Oh quinine Oh yeah, I didn't know they took it for malaria they used to take it for everything you know quinine turpentine {NS} sometimes you taste of something, God, it tastes like quinine Interviewer: mm-hmm yeah say now talk about someone who died have you ever heard any say they didn't they felt uneasy about saying died 533: uh passed away passed on Interviewer: Right 533: you know he uh he's now deceased you know Interviewer: Is there anything that you think of that is distinctively black? black usage 533: passed on passed just passed you know Jojo passed I say well Ronnie passed uh you know {D: a rotten I mean um} you know a kidney stone so what yeah they pass Interviewer: {X} what about joking terms for that somebody you don't like whose old 533: he conked out you know croaked kicked the bucket you know gave up the ghost you know Interviewer: talking about somebody who died you might say well he's been dead for two weeks now but nobody's figured out 533: what he died from Interviewer: a place where you bury people you call that 533: graveyard, cemetery Interviewer: would you make any mistakes if you say it were a a little one out in the country private on private property 533: not anymore so much used to you know way out in the country it was- it was a graveyard and up town it was a cemetery you know Interviewer: what about the people dressed in black at the funeral you say that they're in 533: mourning yeah {NS} Interviewer: if somebody asks you on an average day how are you doing 533: doing fine doing alright Interviewer: uh say the children are out late and the wifes getting a little excited the husband might say well it'll be alright just don't be 533: don't be worried about it Interviewer: what about the disease with joints that makes people annoyed 533: gout rheumatism Interviewer: yeah 533: arthritis rheumatism Interviewer: right is there any difference between arthritis and rheumatism 533: oh yeah arthritis I think has to do with the uh maybe with the muscles you know the way the muscles connect with the bone the rheumatism has to do just simply with bone against bone or something like that Interviewer: okay 533: yeah Interviewer: what about a disease that makes your skin and eyeballs turn yellow 533: {NS} jaundice yeah yellow jaundice Interviewer: you heard of a disease that children used to get they'd suffocate because they'd get sores in their throat won't be able to breathe throat closed up 533: yeah diphtheria Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah my daddy had that yeah yeah Interviewer: say if uh {NS} a person that has severe pain down here they must of had a severe attack of 533: appendicitis Interviewer: and uh say a boy keeps going over to a girls house pretty regularly folks think he's getting serious about her say he's doing what they spoke of 533: he's courting her sparking her got the hots for her you know it's- it's all in whether it's your brother that's doing the talking or your mama and daddy you know {NS} he's courting her a little bit owning up to her Interviewer: Is sparking used? 533: not so much call it more of less a joking term sparking who you sparking you know Interviewer: and you would call him her 533: {NS} boyfriend you know Interviewer: {X} 533: girlfriend no- no more of this suitor stuff and beau and brummell and all that crap Interviewer: say your little brother had been out all night and he came back with lipstick on his collar you'd say no how about 533: he's been smooching you booger you Interviewer: {NW} 533: yeah parking probably {NW} Interviewer: say he asked her to marry him and she didn't want to you'd say she 533: turned him down you know put him off jilted it really is that what you would say well when you jilt somebody just when you just you know you just jilt 'em well you just rid of 'em you know Interviewer: Right 533: they think they- maybe they just think you bad in love with 'em and you jilt them Interviewer: what about a wedding what man stands up there next to the groom 533: best man Interviewer: mm-hmm. What about the woman? mm that's the maid of honor if she's not married, matron of honor I think if she is or something like that {NS} around here have you ever heard of anything going on after the wedding except the couples might go away a lot of people might follow them back to their house and get rowdy as all get out 533: like a serenade Interviewer: yeah 533: Yeah, well we used to do that at Christmas time you know it's- they don't do that anymore they don't trick or treat like they used to and they don't serenade used to at Christmas time they'd go around you know under the auspices of singing carols you know or something like that you wind up blowing fire crackers at your girlfriend's window you know my daddy had a big time one time he had you know like six kids some of 'em teenagers when he was twenty-four I mean you know how that I told you about that, you know he's raising my mother's sisters and uh a bunch a kids come up there serenading and uh they were outside it was dark God it was dark and we had a camera which a lot of people didn't have flash attachment on it {NW} he went outside and {NW} flashed that camera you know behind an oak tree boy and they shit and left Interviewer: {NW} have you ever hear that called a sugarier 533: no Interviewer: serenade 533: no Interviewer: uh say if uh say if a group of kids got together and hired themselves a band they might say they were having a 533: throwing a party yeah Interviewer: and when they get out and start moving around on the floor 533: and dance mm-hmm {X} Interviewer: different types of dance 533: in Bruce Mississippi they have dances Interviewer: dances 533: but over here they have a dance {NW} different types of dances you mean what do you mean uh Interviewer: any kind old kind new kind nowadays 533: what do you mean like a barn dance Interviewer: yeah 533: or something like you're not talking about a specific style of dance are you? Interviewer: yeah 533: oh yeah Interviewer: {X} 533: I don't know if it's a dance uh you typically think of teenagers getting out on the floor and getting funky but you can have a barn dance and a square dance uh I guess stuff like that street dance used to have street dances Interviewer: yeah 533: yeah Interviewer: this expression say in the summer time school is not in session or in the end of the summer somebody might have the end of school 533: start Interviewer: #1 yeah # 533: #2 mm-hmm # yeah {NS} Interviewer: say a kid who leaves home supposedly to go to school but don't get there on purpose say he did what 533: he run away skip school yeah Interviewer: When you- 533: played hooky Interviewer: #1 you know # 533: #2 Yeah # Interviewer: #1 # 533: #2 # oh you mean uh- I was thinking of somebody leaving home to go to college you know you don't let somebody play hooky Interviewer: sure 533: yeah Interviewer: what would you say- would you say anything different talking about a college student say he didn't want to go to class 533: mm well in college you don't so much play hooky because it's of your own you know your own volition whether or not you go to class you have the right to choose you know you screwing off you know not going to class Interviewer: you ever say cut class 533: yeah he cut class uh-huh Interviewer: and uh alright if you build a drum or want to check out a book you go to the 533: library Interviewer: alright 533: which is also known as the library Interviewer: right 533: yeah Interviewer: and if you wanted to see a play or a movie you'd go to the 533: theater {NS} Interviewer: and if you were in a hospital the woman who comes to take care of you is takes care of you she's the 533: nurse Interviewer: what about if you wanted to catch a train 533: go to the depot Interviewer: anything else 533: a train station you know no Interviewer: don't call it the railroad station 533: no not really B-J Thomas did in his song you know been there at the railroad station you know in Saint Paul you know what is that Interviewer: Where- 533: think I love you most of all you know that song sitting outside of the railroad station here in Saint Paul thinking that I love you most of all anyway Interviewer: B-J Thomas does something like that I think 533: B-J's gonna be in Grenada, Mississippi July first he's coming back you heard him yeah I wish I could hear him sing Brick Yard Blues that song Three Dog Night had on hard labor he got his head straightened out I think he got Christian you know which is good cause he was about to die Billy Joe Thomas Choctaw county Texas good I like him you know Interviewer: Yeah 533: but anyway {NW} Interviewer: okay uh talking about buildings downtown say one or {NS} right here and one right here so this ones right across from this one if you look at it like so talking about the relationship with this one 533: nah I'd say right across what do you mean across the road? the catty-cornered Interviewer: Yeah 533: yeah okay catty-cornered yeah Interviewer: you ever heard of people use antigoglin antigodlin like that 533: nah Interviewer: catty-cornered mm-mm say if you were riding on the bus you would tell the driver the next corner is where I want to 533: get off Interviewer: and here's where you have the courthouse in Houston the 533: square Interviewer: or the 533: the county seat Interviewer: sure 533: yeah the county seat mm-hmm Interviewer: the police in town are supposed to maintain 533: law and order Interviewer: alright and before they had the electric chair you'd say murderers were 533: hung yeah Interviewer: and talking about somebody's suicide you'd say he went out 533: hung hisself yeah Interviewer: okay alright so names of the cities and states just for pronunciation 533: yeah Interviewer: the state where the biggest city in this country's located 533: New York yeah Interviewer: {X} 533: uh New York New York that what you mean Interviewer: {X} from the city you would say 533: New York state Interviewer: sure 533: yeah Interviewer: and Baltimore's in 533: that's in Maryland Interviewer: and uh Richmond 533: Virginia Interviewer: Raleigh 533: North Carolina Interviewer: the state right a little bit 533: South Carolina Interviewer: okay Atlanta 533: Georgia Interviewer: Miami 533: that's in Florida Interviewer: and Montgomery 533: Alabama Interviewer: New Orleans 533: Louisiana Interviewer: Louisville 533: Kentucky Interviewer: uh Nashville 533: Tennessee Interviewer: Saint Louis 533: Missouri Interviewer: Little Rock 533: Arkansas and some people say Missouri you know and some people also say Cincinnati Interviewer: right 533: but anyway I never heard anybody huh I don't know people uh the people from Missouri call it Missouri you know cause I have two friends here in town well I'm going back to Missouri this weekend Interviewer: somebody need to write and article to sort that out 533: yeah you know what really pisses me to see someone abbreviate Missouri M-I-S-S thats ignorant man yeah sure saw a guy with a truck with you know and its you know john steel trucking company you know they'll have MISS sure you know Interviewer: uh lets see and we are here in 533: Mississippi Interviewer: and Dallas is in 533: Texas Interviewer: and Tulsa 533: Oklahoma Interviewer: Boston 533: Massachusetts which is Massachusetts you know really yeah Interviewer: what about all the states from Maine and Connecticut together you'd call them the 533: eastern sea board what do you mean new england yeah new england states yeah Interviewer: uh a big city in Maryland that 533: probably Baltimore right or Rockville {NW} which is Washington D-C {D: a la} anyway Interviewer: what about a big city in the north 533: ah Saint Louis Saint Joseph Kansas City Interviewer: and the sea port in South Carolina 533: sa - uh Interviewer: go ahead and say it 533: I started to say Savannah Georgia but I mean you know Savannah South Carolina sea port I don't know Charleston is that on the sea I'm trying to think now Interviewer: what about the biggest city in Alabama 533: Birmingham I guess Interviewer: and the capital 533: north of Alabama it's Montgomery Mobile yeah Interviewer: and the big city where Capone is from 533: Al Capone I don't know where was he from Interviewer: it's a city in Illinois 533: mm Chicago Chicago thats what a lot of people say Chicago Illinois {C: pronunciation Chicago} yeah Interviewer: talking about Mobile what body of water would you say that it's on 533: ah the gulf of Mexico I would never say the Atlantic ocean {NW} or the Caribbean sea no uh Interviewer: what about a few little cities in Tennessee 533: you got Nashville Knoxville Chattanooga Memphis um I don't know how big do you want you know yeah Gatlinburg probably the most famous union city probably the least Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 533: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: what a a resort city up in the mountains of western North Carolina that Thomas Woods was from 533: Cherokee Asheville yeah you can say where the inspirations core tent was from which is talking about it or the uh well uh they're from Bryson City actually it's not the inspirations it's uh ol' fat boy whats his name Kingsmen they're from Asheville North Carolina yeah Interviewer: okay and if it was in Georgia that would be 533: uh Atlanta Interviewer: okay and what about the city that is close to fort Benning hmm it's the second largest 533: Columbus yeah Interviewer: and 533: I was thinking of Marietta Tucker Decatur you know around Interviewer: {NW} its where the auburn brothers are from 533: uh yeah Capricorn studios Macon home of the w a b g fifty thousand watts on line forty yep offered me a job once yeah uh they said one hundred and seventy-five bucks a week don't make me giggle it wasn't bad it was you know like midnight to three a.m. you know hell a hundred and seventy-five bucks a week uh or ten to one or something like that I don't know I was like I'll do your early morning for twenty thousand a year so yeah Interviewer: what about a big city in Louisiana 533: New Orleans I guess Interviewer: and the capital 533: what is the capital baton rouge yeah I want you to say Wilson has would you say has did it I say no how about has done it he said okay has done it again Interviewer: {NW} 533: they're trying to get so proper they'll be like thank you I appreciate that coke yeah Interviewer: {NW} oh man 533: come over man yeah we be singing all day Interviewer: can you tell me what the capital of Louisiana was 533: uh we did that one uh Louisiana baton rouge Interviewer: okay and the first place you see in Kentucky 533: hmm where is that Louisville yeah now we have a Louisville Mississippi spelled like the same way Interviewer: yeah heard about that 533: yeah got a Huffman in Alabama too not a bad place {NS} full of rednecks just outside of Birmingham out there sort of like you go into Leeds you know Huffman Alabama yeah yeah its out there you know Leeds and Huffman Forestdale {NS} Interviewer: {X} 533: France where the woman wear no pants you know Interviewer: {NW} {X} 533: mm-hmm I hadn't watched um Interviewer: Moscow would be in 533: Russia Interviewer: okay and Dublin 533: that's uh Ireland right yeah I was thinking of Moscow Tennessee when you said Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 533: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: alright now this expression now if somebody asks you to go somewhere with and you're not too crazy about the idea you might say well I just don't know you know 533: I don't know if I want to go Interviewer: and if you talk about somebody a friend of yours that's very sick and he probably won't get any better you might say well uh it just seems he'll never pull through 533: yeah it seems like he'll never make it yeah Interviewer: you were asked to go somewhere to look after your wife you might say well 533: {NW} Interviewer: I just wont go 533: I just won't go without if she don't go you know if she can't go Interviewer: I won't go if she goes 533: I won't go unless she goes yeah Interviewer: uh say you've been doing some work and somebody just standing around looking at you 533: yeah Interviewer: you might say well uh why didn't you uh why'd you just sit around without helping me 533: instead of helping me yeah Interviewer: in church you say the preacher preached a fine 533: sermon Interviewer: and uh 533: but you go too preachy mm you know hey whatcha all dressed up for well we going preaching you know Interviewer: you ever hear people call a sermon a mass 533: uh yeah but a sermon and a mass is just different a mass is what you get in a methodist church and I'm not knocking your university of Emory so uh no but you get a hellfire and brimstone sermon if you went to the holy rollies or you know independent baptist or something you get a message in you know because you know the Methodist they usually tell us a story related to something totally irrelevant sprinkle a few and go home you know pass around the grape juice yeah right I kidding I'm just being asinine but you know a message I consider lite you know a sermon you know is delivered you know yeah Interviewer: what is the being that is supposed to be the enemy and opposite of god 533: hmm the devil yeah the booger man Interviewer: right 533: mm-hmm Interviewer: is that the same today 533: yeah the booger man {NW} you know when you're little you know the booger man get ya you know thats uh I don't know if you help that better with your kid you could Satan you know the devil you know Interviewer: what about things that people see around graveyards and are scared of 533: ghosts spooks haunts {C: pronunciation} yeah Interviewer: what if they get in the house and they say the house is 533: haunted or haunted its a haunted house {C: pronunciation} Interviewer: say if its a and in the winter time you might say well uh better put a sweater on it's getting chilly 533: kinda sorta Interviewer: okay or if somebody asks you to go somewhere you say well I'll go if you insist but I 533: I'd rather not go rather Interviewer: if you ran into a friend of yours you haven't seen in years what might you say to um say proof 533: golly I haven't seen you in a long time that what you mean where you been yeah Interviewer: you ever hear people around here say anything like proud to see 533: yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm proud to see you um nice to see you kinda goes the same way glad ya'll got to see me yeah that's typical joke when you're leaving well I'm glad ya'll got to see me you know specially if they don't come to the door to tell you bye Interviewer: say if a man owns a thousand acres of land talking about quantity you'd say so and so are sure 533: a lot of land Interviewer: people around here would they say so and so 533: yeah mm-hmm sure would Interviewer: use it like that 533: mm-hmm well right smart you know how often do you go to town well right smart you know it means a good deal frequently a big quantity you know often {NS} picks his nose a right smart Interviewer: okay uh say if uh you were walking around downtown and you say somebody you knew you know you met them a long time ago what would you say to them in greeting 533: hey how are you doing you know Interviewer: would you ever say something like that to a person you'd never seen before 533: yeah mm-hmm sure Interviewer: what would you say 533: probably the same thing hello how are you Interviewer: how would you greet someone around December twenty-fifth 533: a merry Christmas you know Interviewer: anything else you say on Christmas day {NS} any other greeting 533: uh happy holidays you know it just depends uh merry Christmas mostly Interviewer: you ever say Christmas here 533: nah not unless I'm giving somebody that yes yeah I've heard people say that I think you dumb a Christmas gift happy yule you know Interviewer: #1 what about around here on January the first # 533: #2 you know # yeah a happy new year you know you know they could take uh don't you burn a yule log at Christmas you dye eggs in easter you think they put 'em together you could dye a log you know Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 533: #2 be nice wouldn't it # I did that once going into a song dialog by Chicago we can make it happen we can make it you know Interviewer: you know one those guys in Chicago blew his brains out 533: uh blood sweat and tears was it was it Chicago yeah was he with Chicago or blood sweat and tears i don't remember they got a new song out you know now take me back to Chicago hey I guess it was written in his honor you know uh tired of all this tired of it all take me back to Chicago and lay me down you know it ain't really good Interviewer: what about uh something you might say in appreciation not sure how much 533: much obliged had an aunt once that said much a britches you know this you know been joking you know appreciate it you know appreciate it they make fun of Roy Clark and Glen Campbell and John Denver when they get on Johnny Carson you know much obliged I appreciate it Interviewer: {NW} okay what about the