625:  How how much longer will you take today?
Interviewer:  Oh uh maybe a couple hours. We ain't got much more to do. We can get another hour done. Just a couple hours. Um
625:  Well another hour now that'll be five oh clock, that's gonna be
Interviewer:  Okay alright.
625:  Ma- make it about thirty minutes {D: to do it}
Interviewer:  Okay. Now you might say s- don't do something that a way do it
625:  Do it do it this way. Don't
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
625:  #2 do it that # way.
Interviewer:  Okay. If somebody was saying something and you didn't hear it you might to make him repeat it you might say
625:  What do you say uh?
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh if a man has plenty of money y- you might say he doesn't have anything to wor- to worry about but life's hard on a man
625:  That don't don't have any money.
Interviewer:  Okay. Or you'd say who has a hard life you'd say that Or poor you'd say
625:  Yeah. Uh A p- a poor man who has a hard life. #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
Interviewer:  Um if you have a lotta fruit trees you'd call those a
625:  #1 orchard. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh #
625:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
625:  #1 An orchard. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
625:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Yeah. You might ask somebody who owns owns it you'd say he's the man
625:  that that own the orchard.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um Uh when I was you- you'd also say when I was a boy my father was poor but next door was a boy
625:  Boy whose father whose father was well off.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um Now the inside of a cherry the part you don't eat you call the
625:  Uh the the s- the seed.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the inside of a peach. Uh the inside part of a peach you didn't eat
625:  Well that they call that a peach seed too.
Interviewer:  Okay. A peach seed?
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now what about the kinda peach where the flesh is real tight to the stone, it's hard to get away from. From the stone just kinda
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
625:  That's a clean stone they call that.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  And the and the one that breaks loose is free stone.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  {D: See?}
Interviewer:  Now when you eat an apple the part you throw away is the
625:  The the the uh the heart the core.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
625:  #2 Core. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
625:  #2 #
Interviewer:  Um when you cut up an apple and dry 'em you're making you ever cut up an apple and dried it? You're making what?
625:  {D: Well what} cut 'em in it pa- pans {D: kinda} and and uh and cook for breakfast you know?
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  {X} But uh {D: and I sole 'em and they} call it a apple, dried apple so you only make five of it you know? {X}
Interviewer:  Okay well a dried part of a pear you might call a did you ever dry a pear?
625:  Uh yeah dried pear too uh they call it
Interviewer:  They called 'em dried pears?
625:  Yeah. And {D: cook 'em} just like you would dried apple.
Interviewer:  You never call it snitz?
625:  Yeah I don't believe
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
625:  #2 I can't remember. #
Interviewer:  Now uh what about the kind of nuts that you might pull up out of the ground and roast? What do you call them?
625:  Peanuts.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um can you tell me about any other kind of nuts you had around here?
625:  Well uh I don't know any other {D: that they got around there} {X}
Interviewer:  Okay. Just well just some that came in trees.
625:  Some in trees yeah oh yeah. There's pecans.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  {D: An acorn a acorn and they always eat that} pecans. Some of 'em trees and uh chestnut. And they had chinquapin they call it uh some grows on trees.
Interviewer:  Chinquapin?
625:  Chinquapin. {D: Mixed like something like that} Acorn I didn't think they good to eat.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now um another kinda nut you might came in a perforated shell you call that a
625:  {X} they got uh walnut.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now
625:  #1 {D: they had} #
Interviewer:  #2 um #
625:  they got what they call a hickory nut. It the hardest thing in the world to break but the best flavor you ever eaten. And and at home you can break 'em you got to have a hammer to break 'em. They grow wild. {D: Yeah} Well you get some out of it, it's the best way we {D: you could eat them}
Interviewer:  What do you call the outside of a walnut, you know that you have to peel away? You might get your hands all dirty?
625:  Well uh they call that the hull.
Interviewer:  Okay. Okay uh what about the other nut you know you'd put in a praline? You said pecans you'd also put this other nut in a praline. What do you call it?
625:  Uh peanuts. Peanuts and pecans.
Interviewer:  Yeah {X}
625:  #1 They've got a #
Interviewer:  #2 You ever got a #
625:  walnut Walnut. That some people use that.
Interviewer:  You ever grow almonds?
625:  Yeah almonds.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um the kinda fruit that grows in Florida if they're not um you might say if there're not any more of {D: 'em} left you say the oranges
625:  Oranges {D: they've uh} {D: faded out} {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  {D: clean out}
Interviewer:  Alright. What about the little red vegetable that's peppery? You know the little small red vegetable that you it had roots in it grow in the ground?
625:  Radish.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Radish.
Interviewer:  Now I noticed you had a bunch of uh tomatoes over there what would you call a little old tomato like this? Maybe the you know
625:  Well I I {D: know some terms from back days uh} big as a sausage they all call 'em small tomatoes.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Some of 'em grows like a a a grape like you know? {X} maybe a five or six of 'em on one stem like that just like grapes. {D: Yeah} {X} uh uh a grape tomato you know? It'd be it wouldn't be very big just a little round one you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  No I seen some of 'em pla- planted in places they they look like um they use 'em in in in in yards around the vegetable places. {D: They make} {D: they'll} {D: put} put a little thing but they good to put in {X} say uh just round as they could be you know? I don't know really though don't know what they call 'em but they're pretty
Interviewer:  Um now along with your meat you might have a {D: ba-}
625:  Baked uh chicken?
Interviewer:  With your meat you might have a baked
625:  Potato.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now uh th- the kind of potatoes with yellow meat you call them a
625:  A red a red potato. They have some red and some white.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Uh {D: and there's} two kinds of potato but sweet potato you have uh what you call a white potato and a red, when you cook 'em those white ones they kinda and they're no- they're not exactly white they're kinda brownish-like but they're really white and white and brown like. And they good and then the uh the other this red potatoes when you cook 'em they red right through you know? Just like hash potatoes. {D: They most} potato you buy in the stores is white potatoes but the people here pass mostly red potatoes you see?
Interviewer:  #1 What about #
625:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  yams?
625:  Yams. Well {NW} we used to plant a lotta yam here but they got quarter didn't raise none but a quarter-week and then they back there. They got stayed there so many in there to where they got to for a while keep {X} carry so many {D: pumpkin and uh}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
625:  Bring ye- carry to some place, had them burned, just scattered around. Hard to get rid of 'em once you get 'em in the field.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now what was the the the vegetable with the small with a makes tears come outta your eyes when you cut it?
625:  Onion.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now did you ever did you ever have little fresh ones? Little ones?
625:  {D: Oh yeah}
Interviewer:  to eat?
625:  Well yeah.
Interviewer:  What'd you call them?
625:  We we call them shallots.
Interviewer:  {D: Charlottes?}
625:  {D: Charleton}
Interviewer:  #1 Onions? #
625:  #2 {D: See it} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
625:  #2 # The little small ones, C-H-A-R-L-O-T I believe they call it. Little small one you know? And then they got some they call 'em {D: mother flies} {X} pull all but one and they'll stay there a couple weeks they'll be there a dozen'll grow grow around you know?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
625:  But these uh {D: charlots} they'll make just one one little um {D: three four the way} around when they they good {D: store onion}
Interviewer:  What um mr Moran what'd you call that vegetable you put in a in a gumbo?
625:  Well uh when they cook gumbo you you put uh what they call gumbo filé made outta uh sassafras.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  {X} dry the leaves and they let 'em dry good and beat 'em down to a powder and you put so much in there and it gives it the filé taste you know? Outside of that you only put uh put uh make a brown gravy and then put uh onions and uh fre- seasoning in it you know? And uh {D: with only}
Interviewer:  #1 Um #
625:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  did what about a little green vegetable uh that you put in a in a soup or or that did you ever hear of okra?
625:  Oh yeah okra yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now if you leave and apple or a plum around you say it'll dry up and
625:  And rot.
Interviewer:  Well no maybe if it if it didn't rot, if it just dried up you'd say it would
625:  Dry up.
Interviewer:  Or Shr-
625:  Shrink. it'll shrink.
Interviewer:  Shrivel or?
625:  Sh- shrivel and
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now what were the kind of vegetables that had large leafy heads?
625:  Uh uh cabbage cabbage had the lo- collard green have large wide {X} and cabbage have {D: very come from} head and
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Particular size leaves {D: they do} Collards have larger leaves they do. Than cabbage.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now if you wanted to get beans out of a out of the pod like those there you'd say
625:  You shell 'em. Have to shell 'em.
Interviewer:  Okay. What were the large yellowish flat beans that
625:  Butter beans.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um did you have any different varieties of butter beans?
625:  Oh yeah we had the have what they call small white butter bean, the big white butter bean then you have the uh the sm- the speckled butter bean. {D: inside} you know?
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  They have uh {D: there} oh they have some they call uh I don't know know name just {X} you know?
Interviewer:  Okay. Now what about the kind of beans you eat pod and all?
625:  They they that's a English peas.
Interviewer:  English beans?
625:  They call beans.
Interviewer:  Yeah I'm talking about beans.
625:  Oh snap beans.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
625:  #2 Snap beans # they call 'em.
Interviewer:  Wha- uh go ahead you were talking about
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # peas?
625:  Tender green now this English pea I thought it was one thing it grows early and you shell them it {NW} you cook them. And then we we got peel peas. That uh
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
625:  #2 Uh # that's what they shell in here you see?
Interviewer:  Yeah
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 right # okay. {X} yeah. Now did you ever have little peas that had kinda black eyes in 'em, what do you call those?
625:  #1 Black #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
625:  black-eyed peas
Interviewer:  Okay. Um if you take the tops of turnips maybe and cook 'em you'd cook up a mess of
625:  Uh they call that turnip greens.
Interviewer:  Turnip greens?
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now what was the green stuff that you'd put in salads?
625:  Uh lettuce.
Interviewer:  Okay you'd say if you put two bunches you'd say you got two
625:  Two two head of lettuce in there.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  They usually use uh uh uh the white cabbage to make a slaw with too you know?
Interviewer:  Okay. Um the outside ear of the ear of a cor- a piece of corn you'd call the
625:  The shuck.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um what's the kinda corn that kinda {D: you know the} corns tender enough to eat off the cob you'd say those were that those were
625:  That's uh uh {D: roast ears}
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} Um what'd you call the top of a corn stalk?
625:  The uh tassel.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh the stringy stuff that you'd have to clean off when you were cleaning the corn
625:  Call that silk.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now um what was the big round fruit that you'd have for Thank- for uh Thanksgiving or you might you might cut holes out of it at at uh Halloween?
625:  Pumpkin.
Interviewer:  Okay. Can you tell me about the squa- uh the kinda yellow-necked vegetable you had?
625:  Yeah we have yellow squashes.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  And uh then we have uh white squash too.
Interviewer:  Okay did you ever have a name for that?
625:  Only one I'd know is uh uh squash whi- white and uh yellow.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now what kind of melons did you raise?
625:  Well the most me- melon I raised I raised a lot of 'em, I used to raise the {D: congo} I found that was the best melon that you could raise.
Interviewer:  Is that a watermelon?
625:  Yeah. I raised 'em uh about that long I guess all I could do was pick 'em up and I sold a many of 'em for a dollar. A piece.
Interviewer:  Okay what different kind of watermelons do you know about?
625:  Well they got uh combo {D: they what} they got the Dixie queen and the uh uh uh they got one they call rattlesnake if it's shaped the way color's shaped. And they there's uh there's uh these what melon the uh sell in these {D: store here} early they come from Georgia, some from Florida they call them Charleston.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
625:  And and uh all they have a number of I never planted but one kind of watermelon but I've seen people pay as much five {D: rows you know} {D: one} different different kind of melon each row you know?
Interviewer:  Okay. Did you ever have another kind, a little smaller melon?
625:  Yeah they had the these uh uh ice ice box melons.
Interviewer:  Icebox melons?
625:  Yeah I've planted a few, I've planted them one time when {D: they was through with 'em you know?}
Interviewer:  Okay. You ever have another word for 'em? Uh musk melon or anything like that?
625:  Oh yeah we had mush melon yeah. Course that's a different thing it they have mush melon and and cantaloupe {X} just I guess there the mush melon was the small end of cantaloupes, some of 'em would come that long. And bigger you know?
Interviewer:  Okay. What other melon with yellow meat are shaped like that? You ever
625:  Well there's there there's some kind of I've I have planted melon they call 'em yellow m- yellow-meat melon.
Interviewer:  Uh-
625:  #1 They #
Interviewer:  #2 huh. #
625:  instead of getting red they'd be yellow but they just as sweet as they can be.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now what was the little white umbrella thing that would sh- that would spout up in a field after a rain maybe? You call that a They grow in damp places.
625:  Yeah some some some you boil {D: also} they chew 'em too they call that uh what they call that uh I don't know. Ah shoot I keep one in the yard just the other day I saw
Interviewer:  #1 Mushroom? #
625:  #2 {X} # Mushroom yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Mushroom.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
625:  #2 {X} # you know them things {D: grow well} {D: use to} cow manure and and boils 'em. Some people course out in the field {X} they'd break that off and chew that and and {D: they give 'em the} I don't know they they {D: taste 'em} make 'em feel funny you know?
Interviewer:  Some of 'em are good but other ones are
625:  Well some of 'em are good to eat but {X} grows all uh {D: bar- uh} {X} {D: cough drops} {X} I won't put won't chew one of them things for nothing in the world, you know? {NW} And they claim they got something in there that give you a little {X} I know a lotta people grow 'em out their field there you know?
Interviewer:  Um you say it those kinda melo- those kinda uh mushrooms are
625:  Well uh they're they're dangerous {X}
Interviewer:  Poi-
625:  Poison and dirty. You know?
Interviewer:  Okay. Okay um now what about the the poison ones you can't eat? What do you call them? The ones you can't eat.
625:  Well uh they call 'em the same thing uh mush melons you know? They call 'em the s- same thing.
Interviewer:  They ever call call 'em toadstools? You ever call 'em that?
625:  {D: I don't know} why you'd call that. I guess {X} that's a good name for 'em though. {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh if if a um if a man has a sore throat so the inside of his throat is is sore you'd say he couldn't if he was eating food you'd say he couldn't
625:  Couldn't swallow good.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now what do people smoke?
625:  Well
Interviewer:  They smoke pipes uh other some smoke pipes, others smoke
625:  Cigarettes, some ci- cigars.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now if there were a lot of people at a party having a good time you'd say they'd all be maybe standing around the piano and they were
625:  All all happy and having a good time.
Interviewer:  Yeah and you'd say they were
625:  They singing.
Interviewer:  And uh
625:  Dancing.
Interviewer:  Okay. If somebody offers you a favor and you say I appreciate it but I don't want to be
625:  Obligated.
Interviewer:  Okay or obligated to anyone. Okay.
625:  {X}
Interviewer:  Um If uh if somebody asked you about doing a certain job you'd say sure I
625:  Would be glad to do it.
Interviewer:  Or I if you were able to do it you'd say I
625:  I I can do it.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um and if you couldn't do it or or you'd say no I
625:  I I I'm not able to do it uh I can't do it.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um if uh if somebody asked you if you got up before sun came up to work and you'd worked all day, somebody asks you to do a job you say no I've I went to work before sun up and I
625:  I'm tired and unable to do it.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
625:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
625:  #2 #
Interviewer:  But you speak about about the work you've done you'd say all day uh you'd say I
625:  I w- I worked all day {X}
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Not able to do anymore. It's it's thirty minutes after four now and I have to
Interviewer:  You wanna call it?
625:  Yeah. {X} I'd like there him them to tell me how they gonna get this unemployment down with the the i- i- increase and growth in population
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah #
625:  #2 And # they taking think of the thousand millions of uh high school kid that drops out at eighteen nineteen and they go to work. Alright now how many million {X} probably a million or two uh uh uh college graduates finishing every year.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  The the the the demand for employee is is growing faster than uh than uh the the the employment is.
Interviewer:  That's true.
625:  You know it's it's not it's not that uh the the uh the there's as many women working as men. And and the people and and {D: Honeyoak} {X} uh cut that {D: I'll say this} in court I don't care who gets elected they gonna have more people on on the uh this uh welfare
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And uh then the other did then they don't have to feed 'em on that. Now how they gonna find this employment if {X} they they got to have people to manufacture things. They got to do all that before they can put people to work. Now {X} before they vetoed a bill there the other day they wanted to put what eight eight six eight billion dollars. Collect that to give people work at work.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
625:  Well if you give that much money away what they doing? They just helping uh they just {D: running} the country and {X} and uh uh course a dollar today ain't nothing much but about twenty-nine cents you know that. {X}
Interviewer:  Twenty-nine cents compared to when?
625:  To to {X} compared to I'd say back there thirty forty years ago. Uh when the during the Depression.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  You could buy more with a dollar than you can now for for I guess forty or fifty dollars. I seen people go to the store and buy two dollars when they had hell I couldn't {D: hold} carry it all to the car just by the time, I had to go back and get it.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Pay forty-five cents I've sol- uh sold three myself I worked in commissary stores but then {X} you sell the uh forty- forty-five pounds of flour for forty-five cents. Now a- uh th- five pound cost you about a dollar and seventy-nine cents or eighty cents. Five pound {D: would}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And uh uh so you see the difference in price and whe- what they gonna do about that? How they gonna reduce the price? Bi- uh {D: Wallace this older man now who made a statement {D: that I said they said} uh th- this summer a year ago he they had the governor's convention in New Orleans. And he was on there nearly every day, somebody say something he said uh we ain't never {X} nobody want to know wha- {X} what he's gonna do. He said uh uh the only thing he said he had to say that uh the government was trying to beat inflation by raising the the cost of living and h- i- uh high cost of li- employees, salaries and wages, thing like that He said they gotta stop somewhere he said where they going? They gotta stop somewhere then that's got to stop, you can depend on that. Cause inflation we we only {X} uh you {D: won't be able to reason} {X} the farmer's getting the bad pay to where they can't bo- buy have get the equipment {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  So we can go ahead and start, if you wanna put that on there you can if you don't let us {D: down}
Interviewer:  Well that's okay, I wanted, I'd liked to hear that. Um well let's see. Go through some of the animals with you. What'd you what'd you call the kind of bird that can see in the dark? You know
625:  Them uh uh uh them uh hoot owls they call 'em.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
625:  #2 Owls. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
625:  #2 #
Interviewer:  Do you have any different kinds of owls?
625:  Well uh they they got I've heard 'em c- call horn owls hoo- uh and uh hoot owls and there
Interviewer:  #1 Okay #
625:  #2 {X} # there's uh there's another
Interviewer:  Is there a little kinda owl that maybe makes a s-
625:  Yeah. There's another little k- owl, what do they call that?
Interviewer:  Makes a shrill noise, has a real shrill
625:  #1 Uh uh #
Interviewer:  #2 voice? #
625:  scre- screech owl. Screech owl yeah.
Interviewer:  Alright. What about the bird that drills holes in trees?
625:  They call 'em woodpeckers.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the kinda black and white animal with the real powerful smell?
625:  Polecat.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um what kinda what kinda bushy-tailed animals do you see in the tops of trees?
625:  Uh I guess the coons about the biggest
Interviewer:  Yeah. But {X} may these maybe eat pecans or something like that.
625:  Oh like squirrels. Squirrels and and uh
Interviewer:  You have any different kinds of squirrels?
625:  Oh yeah they had uh what they call red squirrel, they call 'em fox squirrel.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And the gray squirrel.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  The other one take a a a pecan, a acorn then run up on them and eat it. And a a the coons will go up too uh uh tree you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  They'd eat the I don't know if they uh they eat nuts much but they uh go up there and ge- and get something different. Pecans they can get hold to 'em they'll eat 'em. They'll get on the trees and crack 'em.
Interviewer:  Have you got a little have you got a little thing around here that might run around the ground? Uh it looks like a squirrel but it doesn't have a tail and can't climb trees.
625:  Uh
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
625:  #2 The only # the only thing uh that hasn't got a tail?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Chipmunk or a you know what those are?
625:  {D: Forget it} they have chipmunk yeah yeah. But they have a little uh mole they call 'em yeah that runs under the ground. And they'll dig holes {X} them things are they they just as {D: smallest} I I I have finally found some of 'em pull 'em out. They call 'em a mole, they done run in the garden, they get in the garden they'll tear up the garden, they get in there and run a hole in it. Raise the ground and them thing they they got two little paws like that right in front of their mouth there. They can get under a ground, hit hard ground and uh you ca- it'll raise the flower up. Just people now days raise it {D: you can see that ridge up} They call them a little mole.
Interviewer:  Um now what kind of animals would you get that might raid hen houses? Might might raid a hen house.
625:  Well you got possum. Mink. And uh uh
Interviewer:  Did you ever have a name for 'em like you say did you ever call 'em anything? I'm gonna go get me a gun and go out and kill those
625:  Um we- well uh uh possum yeah.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  {X} you hear about a you hear 'em a lotta times they'll wake a fellow {X} possum gets in or they mate you know? They get in the chicken house it'll scare the chickens and {D: get out} And then uh uh chicken {D: homes} I mean uh owl {X} these big owl ow- I remember had a old some chicken roost about maybe seventeen eighteen feet fly up there and they'd get up on that roof and uh yeah sometimes I'd hear them I- h- hear 'em {D: cackling} and I knew, I'd get up and put my gun and take my shoes on and go out there and I'd get and I could tell that they uh he'd he'd what his intention was to move toward that chicken and get that chick {X} he couldn't pick her off the roof. But if she once she went down to fl- fly he could pick her off and carry her off you see?
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  And I'd uh I'd kill the many of them {D: like that}
Interviewer:  Wow.
625:  I could see 'em {D: circling} I could tell {X} leave them chickens to roost. You didn't have to see them {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  Um did you ever call all those things varmints? Did you ever hear that word used? Varmint?
625:  Yes. {D: They used uh} uh w- uh {D: more today} word they use. For for thing like that va- va- varmints of all kinds you know?
Interviewer:  Okay. Um what about the kinds of fish you might have around here mr Moran? Can you tell me about 'em?
625:  Well we have uh uh in freshwater you've got uh uh perch uh uh some of 'em uh {D: gargalyles} they call 'em
Interviewer:  {D: tug a lines?}
625:  {D; Gargalyles}
Interviewer:  Why do they call 'em that?
625:  I don't know, it's kind of a big perch you know and
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
625:  #2 {X} # they grow big. And some of 'em kinda they're they're dark green and then they'll have others uh uh red {X} red-belly like {X} {D: you know} c- call them perch you know {D: the other one named perch}
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Perch but they call 'em {D: gargalyle.} And then you catch a green trout in this freshwater too you know and and uh some um {D: we have carps} and uh some uh uh jack fish they call 'em in waters you know? They come about that long
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And uh the- they're good fish they uh you have to gig 'em or catch 'em they they usually live in freshwater.
Interviewer:  Okay. Do you have any saltwater types around here? What kind of saltwater might you catch?
625:  Well uh saltwater you got uh oh you got uh
Interviewer:  Wh-
625:  mullet. For one they got uh uh flounders. And uh I guess you know what a flounder is.
Interviewer:  Yeah {D: allal} had flounder last night.
625:  You uh you caught any?
Interviewer:  {D: Didn't} catch and pay.
625:  You know they're flat and I wa- their eyes are just on one side.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And uh then they've got uh uh that and mullet and you go far out there and ya usually catch some green trouts, pecker trout sometime they'll come {D: they'll} I've caught some pecker trout and green trout. And sometime you go out fishing once in a while you catch a mullet but not too often. but its pecker trout this time of the year when its dry and hot and the saltwater comes up in the river you can catch 'em up in the rivers you see?
Interviewer:  Mullets good eating fish huh?
625:  Oh yeah mullets just as good a fish as you gonna eat.
Interviewer:  That's what I hear.
625:  And then uh you have also you have crabs. I don't know if you ever eat crab?
Interviewer:  Uh-uh. Never have.
625:  Y- yo
Interviewer:  But I've had well I've never eaten them whole, you know I've had little little part of their meat. {D: something}
625:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # but not not they're good I like I like the taste of 'em.
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh #
625:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
625:  #2 #
Interviewer:  what do you call those little uh things that pearls grow in? They come in a shell.
625:  Uh that's a a snail. A small little snail you know?
Interviewer:  No these'll grow out in the ocean a a pearl might grow in 'em. They're called they got a shell you eat 'em on the half-shell sometime.
625:  Yeah. Yeah they got uh I I I tell you I don't remember {D: just} how they call them. What they call them.
Interviewer:  There's oyst-
625:  Oh you mean oysters.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
625:  #2 Oysters # yeah oh they got that down o- on the ground yeah. You you {NW} have to rake for them rake you know and the
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now what's that thing you hear in the marsh at night, it goes {NW} like that real got a real
625:  A bullfrog.
Interviewer:  Okay. And do you have any other kinds of frogs?
625:  Oh yeah we uh we got toad frogs and the uh s- the wha- spring frogs they call 'em, now spring frogs when it's rainy weather sometime you hear them thing around {D: pond and you and the} {X} Man you hear 'em sing all over the place {D: but it's} {NW} They can holler and holler and then the old old toad frog you hear around the place uh around a a house mostly you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And I have read where they have taken frogs a frog and r- {D: rammed it} and I forgot where it was and a m- mailman carried it seventeen miles. How true the story was I don't know but he said there that he'd {D: bringed} that frog somewhere that he uh recognize and then he come back home.
Interviewer:  Yeah?
625:  Now whether that's true or not I read that i- in the newspaper. Said the man's name and everything.
Interviewer:  Uh now what might you fish with? Um did you ever have, what would you fish with maybe? What sort of {D: thing}
625:  Well people go out here in these pond and uh uh on the lake uh rivers some of 'em'll fish with a r- a rod and reel. {X} cast a rod and reel, go out and have a a a pole uh pole a fishing pole with a line on it you know?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
625:  And then uh people go out there sometime at uh {NW} at night and late in the evening or early in the morning and even at night and uh some people can tell but what time the mullet going to come in they catch 'em with nets You know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Catch a net, and throw out there and they catch 'em. Don't take long to fill up a get all the uh fish you want there. Mullet you wants you know they come out there by they come by school they call 'em.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  I seen {D: me} cross the river {D: out uh} the lake there {D: the pay there} and on the uh uh the summertime I stop and I said look over there. They they {D: toll grace} Said that {D: you can see 'em} {X} just like coming like that in the water he said {D: if I} and he said he didn't have his net, said if he had his net on him he wanted one throw in there he that's all he'd need. {X} {D: mullet take} {X} they go by school they call it.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Um well I'm talking about what might you fish with, you might dig something out of the ground to fish with.
625:  {D: Oh yeah} {NW} get uh earthworm fish them down in the ground, an earthworm to fish.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  And uh some people'll get shrimp you know they use shrimp {D: on the} {D: water ain't} dropped by those small shrimp you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And use that.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now what about those what about those animals that crawl along the ground that have a hard shell and when you touch 'em they might pull back into the shell, what do you call them?
625:  Well the they have some they call them a little wood terrapin.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And they got one that they call a a {D: gulf} {D: them things'll run} these wood terrapins they'll uh travel all over the ground.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  I've I've found several in the {D: route} put 'em here. And turned 'em loose in that field and I've seen several of 'em back {X} you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And then the gophers, they'll dig a hole down in the {D: there's mice} dug a hole down here and they and they crooked, they go way over there they might be s- uh eight ten feet from there they might not be but four or five feet under the ground but they get dig a hole.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
625:  And uh some people'd they uh take a bamboo and put some hooks on it and uh they'd go in there and twist 'em around there and get down in there. {D: kill the} get a big old catfish hook, five or six of 'em 'til they hook it up pull pull 'em out you know {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
625:  They they good to eat those gophers they call 'em.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And then they had uh what they call a streaker head that stay in water. And then the they got a
Interviewer:  #1 Streaker head? #
625:  #2 uh #
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Streaker head and they have uh uh uh an old uh snapping turtle.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  That lives in the water {D: in the water} you know?
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Uh streaker head are good and they have what they call a soft shell soft shell {X} sh- turtle li- lives in the these uh uh creek. They're freshwater.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
625:  They lay their eggs on the ground and then they hatch and I've seen about this uh {X} first part of May they gone in in the creek down in the creek there and you can see some places that they'd be {D: pools of 'em} about the size of a dollar {D: or five dollar round}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  {X} They young they they'd hatch. They'd hatch on the they'd make the they laid eggs right on the sand bed on the sand right close by the {D: assuming} they'd hatch and then they'd get in that water. They'd live {X} it must not take much {D: for them to live}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And they'd also catch some catfish out of those fresh waters too you know? We #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Um # what about things you might see in a freshwater creek? Mayb- they're little things, they look kinda like shrimp but you see 'em in freshwater creeks.
625:  Uh they call them minnows.
Interviewer:  Yeah but no these were, these look like shrimp but they they go backwards they
625:  Oh they're crawfish.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Crawfish.
Interviewer:  Alright. Now um talking about insects what about those insects that might that would fly around a light? Can you tell me about some of the insects you might have here?
625:  Well uh uh the the light will draw uh {D: just the} what you call a light bug uh it's a it it it's a bug that used to come around a light it won't they won't bite you but
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
625:  #2 they'll # give you uh right around your {D: four} around your if you standing under a light outside you
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
625:  #2 {D: know} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
625:  #2 # Especially on the lighter uh electric light then they know nothing {D: over it} And it'll also draw mosquitoes, mosquitoes come now too they'll {D: give you the devil} too you know?
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  And uh
Interviewer:  What about that kind of bug that gets in your clothes might lay eggs? You have to put balls in your clothes maybe to stop that them from eating your stuff? What do you call them?
625:  Uh uh well uh
Interviewer:  They like to eat wool.
625:  I I
Interviewer:  #1 moth #
625:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
625:  #2 #
Interviewer:  uh you ever have any
625:  Uh m- moths.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Mo- mo- moth moths they call 'em.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Mo- uh
Interviewer:  Um did you ever have a little bug that might light up at night? You know you'd come out
625:  Oh yeah. they call call that a light bug. I'll never forget {D: I just see} young boys at the {D: wake} one time here, my son would go there. About the same age and I was kinda timid like you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And uh uh let's see one girl asked me says uh {D: I rep-} what was the bravest thing in the world I said I it'd be hard for me to tell. One girl said it's uh a a a light bug.
Interviewer:  Why?
625:  {X} Said it strike the light and let you see everything you got.
Interviewer:  {NW}
625:  {NW} And we laughed and I never forgot that, I saw them girl later and uh same girl I I I I got them back to {X} that you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Um what might you call a little a long thin-bodied insect that had shiny transparent wings? Sometimes it would hover around a lake. And it would hover you know and then it'd just take off real fast. They'd used to eat mosquitoes a lot.
625:  Uh well i-
Interviewer:  They used to
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # a lotta the
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
625:  what little things uh live around and all over they call 'em a m- a mosquito hawk.
Interviewer:  Yeah okay. Alright. Now what about the sort of stinging insects you know? The ones that fly.
625:  {NW} {X} Yellow jacket, the red wasp, they'll {D: stang} you, honey bees sta- sting you too they'll fly.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And also got a a uh a long green hornet about that long they live in the dirt, they call them di- dirt fl- wasps.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  And boy when them wa- them things sting you they sting you and then they have the horne- hornets.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Make a big nest in the uh in the uh I've never been s- stung by one but I'll tell you when them thing hit you they kno- they nearly knock you down.
Interviewer:  Yeah. They're bad. Um now what about those wasps that build in in dirt, now you know they might build mud houses
625:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # {X} what'd you call them?
625:  Uh uh well they uh they call them uh dirt daubers.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  {D: wasps}
Interviewer:  Alright. Um what about those little insects that burrow into your skin and make it you know, make it red and cause welts?
625:  {X} let's see uh uh re- red bugs.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now did you have a little insect that would hop along in the grass during the summertime?
625:  Well uh you you you you you had some that you {D: something reed breaks} where there're lotta open trees and sometimes uh you you'd stand around walking some {D: wishes} she'd get with a a a {D: pick on you}
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
625:  #2 {D: you know?} # It'd get on you and it uh has uh some of 'em are {D: really} before you'd know it they had uh this s- s sting you {X} way down in in your leg and uh nearly full of blood before you'd realize it you know and
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
625:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
625:  #2 # I have seen {D: call} so- some people sores on your back that big from the infection of it.
Interviewer:  Yeah it'd just their back would just swe- swe-
625:  swelt- I guess and uh them things'd get in there and before they know it there was a big sore you know?
Interviewer:  Swell up.
625:  Swell {X}
Interviewer:  Um di- wha- now these were harmless insect but they would hop around in the grass and you know they might eat a lot of stuff uh
625:  {X} they had what they call grasshoppers.
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright um and what go ahead.
625:  Uh well that's that's the
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
625:  #2 the on- #
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
625:  #2 ly #
Interviewer:  Alright what what about the little things you might be out in the garden, you might back into 'em you know and the they'd be made by insects, you'd have to get 'em off of you.
625:  That'd be a spiderweb. S-
Interviewer:  Yeah okay.
625:  Sp- spiderweb.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now um talking about trees and bushes uh what do you call the part of a tree that's underneath the ground? You call them the
625:  Roo- the roots.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh can you tell me about some of the trees you have around here?
625:  Yeah we have uh dogwood trees.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  We had uh blackgum tree well sweet sweetgum trees. We had white oak. We have live oak we have water oak. We have uh
Interviewer:  Um have you got a kind of a white tree with a white scaly bark here?
625:  We got uh uh what they call white berry.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  It's a a bottom of the leaf is white, the top is green.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And their bark is kinda smooth and {X} {D: light} And they got wa- uh they got two uh sa- what they call sassafras trees.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  They got that and then they got uh
Interviewer:  You got sycamore?
625:  They got sycamore. They got uh they got uh cedar trees and uh oak trees.
Interviewer:  Okay. What kind of tree was it that old George Washington chopped down?
625:  Uh cherry tree.
Interviewer:  Okay. Have you got a have you got kind of a shrub here that gets real red in the fall mr Moran? They used to use 'em to tan leather some folks.
625:  Well uh we have uh uh uh some kind they call it hickory trees here that In the fall here that thing is just as red.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And {D: some days} you won't see it.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Um what about this was this was poison, this was kind of a bush it was poison to some people. It'd turn red in the fall, it was a big shrub. Uh you ever had sumac?
625:  Now they had what you call uh uh let's see what they they got a weed that grows uh uh {D: now I I} a real simple name. That uh
Interviewer:  It make you break out?
625:  Make you break {D: down} face your face would swell as well as I know that uh uh
Interviewer:  Poison ivy?
625:  P- uh poison ivy, I was about to get poison ivy.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um you don't have sumac here? You'd ever heard of that?
625:  I know if but I have I don't remember.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about some of the local berries you might have around here? That are good to eat.
625:  Well we have blackberry
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  We have blueberries. We have uh s- strawberries, {D: blueberries}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And they had uh uh
Interviewer:  Did you ever get kind of a red berry around here that had a rough surface to it? It was like a strawberry it was
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Did you ever #
625:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
625:  we have uh wha- {NW} down below uh {NW} in Hancock County down there towards uh {D: Lakeshore} and there they uh and around what they call {D: Miles Phillip} there he used to have a lotta tree in front of the back there wha- red something uh {D: mayhaw}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Just like uh
Interviewer:  Sounds good.
625:  There there was a bunch of 'em in the yard
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
625:  #2 they # they made the best jelly you ever saw.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And then they got these blueberries. Berries you know that make good good jelly too.
Interviewer:  Do you get raspberries here?
625:  Uh some not too much, I don't think I don't know of too many, they might uh lotta people might raise I don't know too many people that raise 'em {X}
Interviewer:  What's that ra-
625:  R- uh raspberries.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  And they had what they call gooseberries but I never did raise them, I never did see any.
Interviewer:  I thought gooseberries were poi- I thought they were bad, they you couldn't eat 'em.
625:  No I see 'em uh listed in the book and thing like that but never did I never did r- raise them.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about s- now some berries that grow in the woods you say you can't eat 'em because they're they're what? They're
625:  {X} uh they're they're good and poison {X} the uh uh
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Gom- uh they call 'em the mulberry bush.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now what do you call that big flower tree that's the state tree of uh Mississippi?
625:  A a magnolia?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Okay. Um do you ever have any other flowery plants around here? Any other types of flowery plants?
625:  Oh yeah. {D: Uh there's uh} {D: one three hundred bush then they} {X} they call it jas- {D: jasmine}
Interviewer:  Ja-
625:  {D: jasmake}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And there's another name too they call it but I can't think of it now.
Interviewer:  What do they call, you ever heard of any laurel around here, any sorta laurel?
625:  No I haven't {D: if I have I don't know what they are} what they got rose bushes and
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  And uh
Interviewer:  Okay. Okay. Um um if a married woman doesn't doesn't wanna make up can't make up her mind about something you'd say she had to ask her
625:  Her husband.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh a man might say I might have to I have to ask my
625:  My wife.
Interviewer:  Okay. A woman who's lost her husband is called a a a a a widow. Okay. Now a man whose son you are is called your? Say a man whose son you're you are is called your?
625:  Uh my my daddy.
Interviewer:  Okay alright. Did you ever have any terms like that that you'd use for your mother? Did you ever ca- what'd you call your mother?
625:  Oh yeah I'd call uh my mother
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
625:  #2 Yeah # {X} my mother
Interviewer:  Yeah. You ever just call her, you ever call her you know when you were saying something to her you'd say
625:  #1 Well if I #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
625:  speaking to her uh a question I'd say uh call her momma you know?
Interviewer:  Okay. Now your mother and your father together are called your
625:  Parents.
Interviewer:  Alright. Um did you have a name you used to call your your grandfather uh any sort of term of endearment? You know maybe if when you were talking to him you'd say
625:  Well I'd say grandpa you know?
Interviewer:  Grandpa?
625:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
625:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # And your mother? Your
625:  I I we used to
Interviewer:  grandmother?
625:  Grandmother {D: right but right there especially} everybody that's what they called her.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now your sons and daughters you call your
625:  My my children or m- my my family chi- my children or
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now something you'd put a baby in and and uh wheel him around in you call that a
625:  A baby carriage.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh and you might say you'd take the baby out for a
625:  For a walk in the sunshine.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh now let's see your children are your sons and
625:  And daughters.
Interviewer:  Okay. And you might call 'em your boys and
625:  My boys and girls too. {X}
Interviewer:  Okay. Now if a woman's going to have a child mr Moran you might say she's
625:  Pregnant.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Or fa- uh some people usually used to call it family way but now people got to where they call it pregnancy.
Interviewer:  In a family way?
625:  I don't know but when I was young they'd come up that's the way they {X} call it you know.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Now they call it pregnant.
Interviewer:  Okay. What what would you call a woman who who when there wasn't a doctor around she'd deliver the baby?
625:  Uh that that that uh they'd call that a midwife.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now if a boy and his father have the same appearance do you say the boy
625:  Resembles uh his father.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um and uh if a mother has looked after three children until they're grown you say she's
625:  Well she's she's uh rai- she raised 'em the children 'til they're grown.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um to a naughty child a child who's been naughty you might say you're gonna get a
625:  {D: A a} well a punishment they'll get a whipping if you do.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  {D: Using} {D: your arm}
Interviewer:  Alright. Now if Bob say if one of your sons is growing and and he when he was young you say he might he one year he might've gotten he might've gone up in one year he might've say five inches he had
625:  Growed uh uh
Interviewer:  He
625:  Grown five inches {D: in a year?}
Interviewer:  One year.
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And you say to him you cer- my you certainly have
625:  Have grown
Interviewer:  Grown up.
625:  Uh grown up.
Interviewer:  O
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 kay. #
625:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # You'd s- you might say why he he uh he came up so fast you could almo- almost see
625:  See him growing. {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay. Now did you have a name for a a for a child that was born to an unmarried woman? A child that was #1 born #
625:  #2 Yeah. # to an unmarried woman?
Interviewer:  A let's see I think that they'd call if I'm not mistake they'd call them a little bastard baby.
625:  Okay. Alright
Interviewer:  And and they that uh they they they they didn't have no parents you see?
625:  Okay. Did you have any maybe um any names you might use you know uh other names or or names for a mixed mixed kid? A kid of mixed you know of uh different races or {D: more} Mixed breed?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What what'd you call 'em? Well do you have another name for 'em?
625:  Well uh you mean that that would be somebody between two two nationality.
Interviewer:  Well two two races maybe maybe. Somebody
625:  Well {X} the real name for that would be creole.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  If it's two ne- uh two uh mixed thing were its two of uh white or black or an Ameri- American or Frenchman or Frenchman and Englishman.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  The uh the name would be creole. A mix between two two different uh nationalities.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about a mix between two different races? Say black and white.
625:  Well that'd be that'd be what you call creole too.
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 um #
625:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
625:  I I I I like {D: the untroubled I run the store around here and the} {X} around here at one time and there's was uh {X} they both creole people there and they'd I I was born to talk French all my life you know? I studied French. Yeah?
Interviewer:  My mother was half of French and uh they were talking there about {X} uh Frenchman and the white and colored, the people around there. And they'll said the- them niggers over there they all creole. I said they a not only are them nigger I say you a creole too. Mean like uh all you people {D: you hear?} a- are are creole. {D: as well as myself} Man some of 'em got I thought they were gonna kill me. I said wait a minute I said uh I said you don't know what creole mean? And I sa- yeah. Say that to mean {D: it's a quick mix} between the black and the white. Uh-huh.
625:  Alright I said what suppose suppose the French and the Englishmen married, what would you call that? Well they'd be white people. I said you can call that creole too. The word creole, I said look up your dictionaries {X} creole means uh uh people whose parents uh {X} are of different nationality. From different nationality. It doesn't say a lot about only color but different nationality.
Interviewer:  I didn't know that.
625:  Well it you look it up and see, you'll see.
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright.
625:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Now your brother's son is called your
625:  Ne- nephew.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now a child that's lost its father and mother you call that a
625:  A a uh a a {D: mu} uh uh uh
Interviewer:  Or-
625:  Orphan orphan.
Interviewer:  O
625:  #1 Orphan #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay #
625:  children.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now a person who would be appointed to look after that child would be called its
625:  Guardian.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now if a woman gives a party or somebody gives a party she might invite all the people who are related to her she said she'd asked all
625:  All her relatives and friends.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um {NS} Did you ever have another name for it maybe you call 'em you know when you're speaking about all the folks that were
625:  neigh- they might {X} neighbors.
Interviewer:  Well no you'd speak of all the folks that uh {NS} were uh related to you you'd say you'd call them your
625:  A- all my family? Uh
Interviewer:  Okay. Yeah
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: when} #
625:  members of family or rela- close relatives.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now did you have if somebody has the same name as you like Moran is a pretty common name by that I mean you know there are a lot of people that have it around here.
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  But uh they're not they're not like you in other words you'd say they weren't they're they're what they're
625:  They they weren't related to me?
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Or were they
Interviewer:  you'd s- yeah
625:  You might say they're distantly related.
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright. Now somebody comes into town, you've never seen him before he's a you call him a
625:  {X} he he he'd be a stranger {X}
Interviewer:  Okay. Um would it make any distance how far he came from?
625:  No. It it'd be uh {D: a ma- uh} well he'd be a foreigner.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  He
Interviewer:  Came
625:  Straight from overseas or or another country.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now
625:  Another state.
Interviewer:  I wanna ask you some common names uh {D: and I'll j-} the mother of Jesus was
625:  Uh Blessed Virgin Mary.
Interviewer:  Yeah. And uh George Washington's wife was named
625:  #1 Uh #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
625:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Yeah.
625:  Uh
Interviewer:  You had it
625:  #1 Mar- #
Interviewer:  #2 right. #
625:  Marthy?
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Martha.
Interviewer:  Now um uh the ni- what was a nickname for Helen beginning with N? Do you have a nickname for Helen beginning with N uh
625:  Helen that begin with N?
Interviewer:  A nickname from Helen beginning with N. You ever call 'em Nel- You ever call anybody Nelly?
625:  Yeah. Yeah it a lot of people uh call Nelly they'd call 'em Nell you know?
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright. Now a nickname for a little boy named William beginning with a B would be
625:  Uh they call him Bill.
Interviewer:  Yeah but with a Y on that it'd be they might call him with a uh B-I-L-L-Y which would be
625:  Billy.
Interviewer:  Okay.
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Now the who wrote the first of the four gospels? The other three were written by Mark, Luke and John. The first one was
625:  {X} uh
Interviewer:  Um well
625:  Luke John and
Interviewer:  Mark, Luke, and John and uh let's see, Matt is a short name for
625:  Matthew.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now a woman who uh a woman who's in charge of a schoolroom in charge a teaching some kids you'd call her a
625:  A teacher.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um now let's see what would you call maybe a a a carpenter who hadn't been trained um you know who didn't have a lot of experience. You might you wouldn't trust him to build anything but a chicken coop maybe.
625:  Well he'd be a a a helper. {X} helper.
Interviewer:  Yeah. But you'd you might call him what? If he was
625:  Uh a a a uh jackleg carpenter.
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright do you have
625:  {NW} Yeah.
Interviewer:  Um can you pronounce that name for me? How would you say that in a
625:  {D: Mrs Cooker}
Interviewer:  Okay. Alright. I just wanted to it's easier to go ahead and write that out before we mention
625:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  {D: the husband} Um now what relation would my mother's sister be to me?
625:  She'd be your aunt.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now um let's see the wife of Abraham was uh well what's a girl's name beginning with S?
625:  Sarah?
Interviewer:  Okay. Very good. Now um if your father had a brother by the name of William you'd call him Uncle Willy.
625:  And if he had a brother by the name of John you'd call him
Interviewer:  Uncle John. Okay. Now um if you were talking to the to a a military man named George say George Patton you wouldn't call him mr Patton you'd call him
625:  Uh uh well if if he was a general you'd call 'em General captain you'd call 'em Captain. You know?
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh who was the fella who invented Kentucky Fried Chicken you'd call him the guy who invented Kentucky Fried Chicken.
625:  Well he'd be he'd he'd be one that discovered the fried chicken. Yeah. Now b- right below a general is a what a A colone-
Interviewer:  Colonel?
625:  Yeah o
Interviewer:  #1 kay. #
625:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Alright. Now a man who presides over a county court he's a
625:  Judge.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what do you call a person who goes to college to study?
625:  A student.
Interviewer:  Alright. Now a person employed by a business man to look after his correspondence is called his private
625:  Private secretary.
Interviewer:  Okay. What would you call a woman who uh appears on the stage you call her a
625:  An an actor.
Interviewer:  Yeah that's a man, you'd call a woman an
625:  Actress.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now your we just celebrated our two hundredth anniversary. And uh now anyone born in our country is called an called
625:  A- an an a an a an aggressor?
Interviewer:  Everybody's who's bor- anybody who's born in our country, you and I, we're called
625:  Uh {D: citizens} citizens of the
Interviewer:  Yeah. You might say
625:  United States uh
Interviewer:  uh of wha-
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
625:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
Aux:  {NW}
625:  of a new states area. {NW}
Interviewer:  You might say you and I are proud to be
625:  Oh uh uh American.
Interviewer:  Okay. Now um {NW} uh did you ever have any word you might use for a a you might use for a um for a poor white man or a man who just uh didn't have a lot of you know didn't have a lot of opportunity like you or #1 {X} #
625:  #2 Well #
625:  Yeah they had they call 'em some people'd call 'em lazy {D: some of 'em} {D: tribal} and someti- some of 'em you'd say they were s- sick, unable to work you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Did um did you ever uh hear any derogatory terms used for 'em? Slang words or anything like that? You know by that I mean words that you know s- did you ever hear 'em called uh maybe uh you know any wo- any words, ordinary words you might have for white folk you know white folk?
625:  Well yeah they would call 'em crackers. People you know?
Interviewer:  #1 Alright. #
625:  #2 Yeah. #
625:  Or uh
Interviewer:  Yeah you might call 'em you might call a black man a nigger but you you'd call a white man, did you have any names like that for 'em? When when when folks would get angry they'd talk about
625:  Well uh I don't know just how you what you {X} I don't know if I understand
Interviewer:  #1 Do you ever call 'em #
625:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  peckerwoods or Never heard that?
625:  Well I heard some of 'em call they'd call some people troublemakers and thing like that you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah. Did you ever hear anybody call people poor whites?
625:  What?
Interviewer:  You ever hear them call 'em poor whites or or
625:  Oh yes I've heard people call 'em uh you call that people they the white people say they uh poor people you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
625:  Poor people, didn't have no no uh no uh energy to even get out and work some of 'em and and uh of course and I do know some {D: terrible people that} knew people like that and they were they were they were really {X} people they have what they call Brides Disease. {NW} And now they call 'em what they Brides Disea-