Interviewer: You were saying and that something 888: Um I was talking about getting down on each other's case. Interviewer: Yeah. #1 Does it usually start fights for girls too? # 888: #2 I mean # Yeah it it means everybody boys and girls. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 okay put put the mic towards you # 888: Oh {NS} Like I be in the room sometimes me and my friend named Frank and Wyde Earl we call him you name Wyde and and see and Earl we call him Earl of Pearl cause his first name's Earl you know. And we call Wyde wide you know we call him wide his name is Wyde but we call him Wide Earth you know cause he's named after the band so we call him Wider you know. And one day and the dude named Frank he talks so much in the room we say we call they call him goofball you know they always call him goofball but he don't mind it cause he's used to it you know. and sometimes he'd come to school and he'd have some other different color socks on you know and me and him we could get along good I can you know he could talk about me and I could talk about him and never never get mad at each other because I can hold my temper and some can't. Like I say hey man your what you doing with red socks on with blue pants? And then he might say uh the same reason you had something else on you know a different color or something like that. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Uh you know just crack you know riding each other's case but we're not getting mad at each other because we're used to it but some people that's not used to it and has a bad temper they can't take it the pressure that's when they get mad and want to fight. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I never had no trouble like that unless I get if somebody talk about me and they don't know me that's when I will get mad. {C: Noise 1:30 to 1:34} If a person know me and talk about me and if it's too much if I can't stand them to talk about it and I tell him to stop talking about it that's when I want to fight. Interviewer: {NW} Uh how old do are kids when they start doing this usually? 888: How old are they? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: {NW} I'd say start off pretty young walking up {X} the type of age {C: Reduced audio quality in previous line} like I guess say seven or eight on up. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: They just you know getting talked about by each other. Interviewer: Yeah uh when do people stop doing it? I mean do adults do it? 888: Yeah a- adults do it too. Interviewer: {NW} Does it usually end up in a fight? 888: Yes. Talking about each other that that's what I call you know getting you know riding each other's case. Interviewer: Okay okay. 888: Some don't and some don't old people I don't think they do it real senior people you know really old people but I don't you know one hundred percent you always usually about fifty percent out of one hundred people ride each other's case and talk about people behind they back and you know start fights. Interviewer: {NW} 888: To tell what the other person said. Interviewer: Um okay now you have you been talking about blacks mostly? 888: Have I been talking about blacks Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 mostly? # No I'm talking about all the races. Interviewer: Okay. 888: Not only blacks. Interviewer: Okay. so you got Mexican Americans doing this and 888: #1 and white people # Interviewer: #2 and white # 888: and black Interviewer: Okay. 888: and Puerto Rican and other people that in San Antonio. Interviewer: Okay okay let's see um if if you tell me a nickname you know for these people tell me if it's if it's derogatory you know I mean by derogatory I mean um what do I mean I mean if you're trying to insult something. 888: Insulting? Interviewer: Yeah if it's insulting. You know what I mean? 888: Um Interviewer: Like if you're 888: Just just giving the name or I'm trying to insult him by the name. Interviewer: What? 888: You're trying to say just give them the name or I'm trying to insult them by a name? Oh that's an insulting name. Is that what you mean? Interviewer: Right that's what I mean. 888: Okay. Interviewer: Okay if somebody if somebody is trying to insult you by calling you that 888: {NW} Interviewer: Then that's a derogatory name. 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And and uh are are insulting names #1 and I want you to # 888: #2 okay # Interviewer: tell me if you know #1 if # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: the name is uh is is like that or if it's just sort of neutral. 888: {NW} Interviewer: you know in which case you know wouldn't be one way or the other or if it if you would use it to be polite. 888: Oh okay. Interviewer: Okay? Okay um first of all do you know of any other names for Chinese or Japanese, people like that? 888: No #1 just Chinese and # Interviewer: #2 okay # Now a lot of these you may not know other names for it because uh see there we've got all the nationalities out here that we could think of that might be all the way across the South 888: {NW} Interviewer: and we don't have them all in San Antonio. 888: Alright. Interviewer: #1 consequently # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: you may not know anybody who's 888: #1 that race. # 888: #2 Alright. # Interviewer: So just tell me no or something. 888: Okay. Interviewer: Um okay uh do you know of any other names for Roman Catholics? 888: Roman Catholics? Interviewer: Yeah 888: No I don't. Interviewer: okay uh what about any other names for Protestants? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh any other names for Jews? 888: Tight. Interviewer: Okay is is that an insulting name? 888: Uh yes Interviewer: #1 okay # 888: #2 it is # Interviewer: okay uh any name other name for a Germans? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh there's a different different kind of German called low Germans. Did you ever you know another name for them? 888: Low Germans? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I don't know I just call them Germans. Interviewer: Okay uh another name for Italians? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay how about Polish people? 888: Yes. Interviewer: What? 888: Polish people? Interviewer: Yeah 888: I say they got a {NW} they got a funny accent and some people call them tied tongue something like that. Interviewer: Called all of them what? 888: Tied tongue. Interviewer: Okay and is that insulting? 888: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. #1 um # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? 888: I don't have no good names but that's what I guess that's insulting because when you call them that and that's {NS} that's not that's not they name. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: But you know the way they talk you have to give them the name or something. Interviewer: Okay. #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Okay what about Russians? 888: Russian? No. Interviewer: Okay what about Czechoslovakians? 888: Czechoslovakians? No. #1 same name # Interviewer: #2 okay # uh {D: Lithuanians?} 888: Same name. Interviewer: Okay Englishmen? 888: Englishmen? No. Interviewer: okay Irishmen? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay. uh Scotsmen? 888: {D: phrase} Royal Scott. Interviewer: Huh? 888: No nothing nothing. Interviewer: Okay uh Frenchmen? 888: Frenchmen? Interviewer: Yeah 888: I don't have I just call them Frenchmen. Interviewer: Okay what about Cajun? 888: Cajun? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I just call them Cajun that's all the names I been hearing and that's all I you know they was over here I would call them something but they're not over in my country. Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Right okay uh Greek? 888: Greece? Did you say Greece? Interviewer: Greek. 888: Oh Greeks No. Interviewer: okay um Scandinavians? 888: Scandinavians uh no. Interviewer: Okay Canadians? 888: no Interviewer: Okay Cubans? 888: No. Interviewer: Okay Puerto Ricans? 888: Puerto Ricans? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: I would call them Puerto Ricans they try to act like blacks all the time. Interviewer: Yeah? 888: I would say the others could say they I say try to act like blacks. Interviewer: Okay. #1 Okay uh # 888: #2 some of them # Interviewer: now the next one um people who uh were born in this country but like whose ancestors came from Mexico? #1 Like these kids. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Now do you know any other names for them? 888: They came from Mexico? Interviewer: Well their ancestors did like maybe their grandfathers or somebody but they didn't they were born here. 888: Who would I call them from Mexico or here? Interviewer: From here. 888: Oh I'd say Americans. Interviewer: Okay now you know of any any insulting names for them? 888: Oh uh day niggers day niggers or. Interviewer: What was that? 888: Day niggers. Interviewer: That's a new one I ain't heard that. #1 Okay what would a # 888: #2 Taco eater # Interviewer: What. 888: Taco eater. Taco vendor. Taco vendor. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 888: No that's about all. Interviewer: Okay are those two insulting? The 888: Yes they are ins- they're insulting and which they don't like to hear. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: But you know. Interviewer: Okay um okay I know that one time you called them Mexicans now um is that considered just neutral or is that um is that insulting or 888: What Mexican? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Mexican is insulting they don't Mexicans don't like they just they just they want to be called Mexican. And sometimes you know like I had a friend named {X} junior and we just like he's you know we just like brothers he's family but he act you know he acts black you know. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And sometimes you know he'll call me come here brother you know like that and I say what you want Mexican and he'll say you know man you know we just you know he call me a black boy something like that. #1 and he just # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 888: you know I call him Mexican. {NW} We don't mind it now we don't get mad at each other because we're used to it and Interviewer: Yeah. 888: he used, my mother, she heard me say that one time and she said don't be saying that you know. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And I told her we always say that to each other you know different words. Interviewer: Okay now let me get this straight is, is Mexican that they don't like to be called that? 888: Mexican. Mexican. Interviewer: Mexican? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Okay but Mexican is okay? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay the the uh 888: Mexican is what they want to be called. Interviewer: Oh. 888: Mexican. Interviewer: Mexican okay. 888: And Mexican they don't want to be called. Interviewer: I get it. Mexican is what they don't want to be called. 888: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # I I get it. Okay and I if you call them Spanish I know if you call them Spanish what is that #1 is that polite? # 888: #2 Span- # Spanish people? Interviewer: Yeah does it mean 888: #1 That's # Interviewer: #2 the same # 888: that's polite. Interviewer: Okay. #1 What's another word that's polite? # 888: #2 {X} # To call a Mexican? Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 888: #2 {NW} # {NW} uh uh all I know is uh brown. Interviewer: Okay okay 888: They're brown. Interviewer: Yeah what do you think about the term um let's see you know you used to hear Latin American? 888: {NW} Interviewer: What do do you hear that anymore? 888: Latin American? Interviewer: {NW} 888: No. Interviewer: Okay what 888: I hear it but what you mean by that? Interviewer: Well who says it? And is it polite or? 888: It's polite. Interviewer: Okay. Okay What about Mexican American? Do you hear that? I mean does anybody say that? 888: It's polite. Interviewer: Okay 888: Mexican Mexican American Interviewer: Okay now back to just plain Mexican would would you consider that to be polite or just neutral? 888: Mexican? Well I could call it Interviewer: Mexican 888: Mexican that's polite. Interviewer: okay okay um If you wanted to find out you know the correct way to say something how would you find out would you listen to people around you or would you would you go look it up in a dictionary or would you ask an English teacher or what would you do? 888: Well I would look it up in the dictionary or I'd find it I was going to school and I had an English teacher I would have asked her. Interviewer: {NW} Okay what do you think about asking people around you or I mean just listening to what people around you are saying? 888: well I they can help too a little bit but sometimes people around you don't know and you gotta ask somebody that has an education. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And you know and put something into school. Interviewer: {NW} um Do you do you think uh do you think you talk different to different people? 888: No I don't I talk the the you know the same way I always talk and words the way words come out that's the way I talk. Interviewer: {NW} What I see I'm thinking like when you talk do you do you talk um different to you like your mother than you would talk to oh say your friends? 888: Yes I'll talk I talk different from from you know from what I would talk to my friends because some of the things I would tell my mother you know it would be more respectful than I would tell my friends. Interviewer: {NW} What for? What do you mean? 888: What do I mean? Interviewer: {NW} 888: Well something like you know that a grown-up you know that you don't want to hear you don't want to say it because it may not be nice to hear from a grown up I mean to hear for with a grown-up want to hear, so I would say something you know that that you know uptight if I were to say it around my mother so I would keep it to myself and tell my friend because me and him is friends and she's an adult. Interviewer: {NW} well um what about not so much what you talk about but just sort of the way you'd say something? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Do you know if that if that'd be different when you talk to your mother from the way you talk to your friends? 888: Well I have more respect for my mother and for my friend you don't you know your friend know that you have respect for him but the things you say you know that don't mean you don't have respect for him but some of the things you say you know that you know like I would say something like this I you know I tell my mother that I might be coming in about 12 o-clock. and I tell my friend I say I might come we might come in about 2 o clock so that's something that you don't want your mother to hear. Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 {NW} # #1 right # Interviewer: #2 right # {NW} 888: Yeah. That's what I mean you know Interviewer: uh what about um you think you talk different to people that you don't know as well you know like a stranger say a new kid at school? #1 Do you talk different to somebody like that than you do for # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: somebody to somebody that's good friends? 888: yes I would I would talk different because I would you know {NW} you know I would #1 try to be myself # Interviewer: #2 wait # okay now what? 888: I would talk differently between a person that I didn't know because a friend the dude that I didn't know you know might don't have the same attitude that I have Interviewer: Yeah 888: so I would you know take it I would come up to him and say my name you know get introduced to each other and you know be you be a friend and nothing else don't try to show yourself off to him. Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 because # that's what nobody you know nobody wants a show off friend to try to show off you know? you just go your usual way and have respect for your first when you first meet him. After you met him and took some you know got to know each other and you had a dinner together or you know really had a good down talk good rap session or something like that then that's the way you know you'll have a talk and you want to say anything that you could say anything you want to then. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: But don't try to go and {NW} impress your friend by trying to get in from your friend. that's what I mean but I would talk different because I would show him that I have you know respect for him by meeting him. I wouldn't show off or nothing. Interviewer: {NW} okay. um What do you think about the way they teach English in school I mean um do you do you think that you talk you know the way that they teach English? Or not? 888: No I don't I don't talk the way they teach English because one reason you know I just got my same you know same you know speech pattern because you know even some people can change it and some can't. I might say a few words that's not right for English but that's the way I pronounce them you know and I try to change in ways and habit I can change it you know but you know sometimes I just can't change it. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: Like I might say uh he did this you know that's not somebody might say that's not how you you know you shouldn't say that because that's not the right English you're supposed to say. Interviewer: {NW} 888: And they might say who's your English teacher you know or you know you just tell them you know you got an English teacher but your English teacher she's trying to give you an education but that don't mean you know she you know go wrong sometimes. You know everybody makes mistakes you know saying something. Interviewer: Yeah well do uh tell me this what about the English teacher do you think do you think she makes mistakes? 888: Yes she makes mistakes but the mistakes she makes {NW} costs her because she's getting paid for it but the children when the children tell her that you know it's gonna it might hurt her but you know because she done had her education and we're trying to get our education. Interviewer: {NW} 888: and I wouldn't say I don't see too many teachers making them mistakes because they had you know they know what to say and stuff. #1 And they # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 888: had speech patterns how to say things Interviewer: have you had black English teachers or white English teachers? Or both? 888: Well uh have I ever heard have I had a ever had a black English teacher? Interviewer: {NW} 888: No I never had a black English teacher. Interviewer: They were all white? 888: uh some white and some Mexican. Interviewer: {NW} tell me okay between the white ones and the Mexican uh are they different? Do they kind of you know they sort of teach different ways? 888: #1 uh they do # Interviewer: #2 the Mexican? # 888: they do teach different I had an English teacher this year and she didn't never try to you know she didn't we didn't really go over English you know we went over English but she didn't try to teach you how to talk because some of the words they don't pronounce you know they don't try to learn you how to talk in English they try to you know give you work in English to in book work you know they don't never learn you how to talk you know they just tell you how to tell you what to do in lessons and stuff like that. And the teacher I did have this year I didn't dig her too much because you know if you try in school people should you know you don't want nothing given to you but they should at least pass you because you tried. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And this teacher she wouldn't you know she'll fail a lot of people cause she didn't like I guess I don't know I guess she's prejudice or something. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: And that's all I can say. Interviewer: Was she white? 888: Huh? Interviewer: Was she white? 888: I said I guess she's prejudice Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 888: #2 what you mean # Interviewer: Was she white or was she Mexican? 888: Oh she was white. Interviewer: {NW} Okay um 888: I never did have a black English teacher. Interviewer: Hmm that's funny It seems like you would have learned {D: to a black} in somewhere 888: Yeah this all I we had a black substitute but not no black English teacher. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: #1 You'll see # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 888: some but you know I never had none. Interviewer: {NW} Yeah 888: I guess I'm unlucky sometimes. Interviewer: {NW} Okay you might not believe this um would you count from one to twenty for me? Slowly. A fair count real slow. 888: {NW} One to twenty? Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} Interviewer: It's not to see if you can count. I know you can count. Just to see how you pronounce it. 888: one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen seventeen eighteen nineteen twenty. Interviewer: Okay and three times nine is what? 888: Three times nine? Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} Timetables now twenty seven? Interviewer: Okay uh Three times ten is 888: Thirty. Interviewer: Okay and four times ten. 888: Forty. Interviewer: Okay and ten times ten is 888: Seven times ten is seventy. Interviewer: Okay and ten times ten? 888: One hundred. Interviewer: and ten times a hundred? 888: Ten times a hundred? Ten times a hundred? Interviewer: {NW} 888: Two hundred I guess. Interviewer: No what's just what's just the next bigger after a hundred there 888: Oh Interviewer: After hundreds there are 888: Thousand? Interviewer: Huh? 888: Thousand? Interviewer: okay and then after thousand there's 888: Millions? Interviewer: okay um okay say there was a line of people you know line waiting in line and the last guy in line was the eleventh person. 888: {NW} Interviewer: So the guy in front of him would be the 888: Twelfth. Interviewer: uh in front of him. 888: Oh. Interviewer: The other way, he'd 888: #1 The # Interviewer: #2 be # 888: eleventh? Interviewer: Okay the eleventh and then the 888: Twelfth. Interviewer: No I'm okay go backwards. 888: the eleventh and then the tenth then the ninth then the eighth then the seventh then the sixth then the fifth then the fourth then the third then the second then the first. Interviewer: Okay okay uh let's see sometimes you feel like good might come just a little bit at a time but bad luck comes all what? 888: Um all bad luck comes sometimes. Interviewer: Okay but it comes all at 888: One time. #1 one time # Interviewer: #2 okay or another way of saying # saying one time would be all at 888: One time. Interviewer: Another way of saying it. 888: uh bad luck would come at Interviewer: all at 888: at a time Interviewer: Just one word. 888: It what good luck would come. Interviewer: All at 888: Sometimes. Interviewer: {NW} #1 {NW} # 888: #2 all the time # Interviewer: okay uh if you if you go to town two times a week you'd say you go what a week? 888: I go to town two two times a week. Interviewer: Okay two times a week ago would be the same as saying 888: I go to town two every week. Interviewer: Okay or uh {NW} {NS} okay say you got uh say you got paid ten dollars for some job okay? 888: {NW} Interviewer: And then the next year you did it you got twenty dollars. And so you say the second year I got paid what as much? 888: Twice as much. Interviewer: Okay now okay if you go to town twice a week but if you just went one time you'd say you only went 888: Once a week. Interviewer: what? 888: Once a week. Interviewer: Okay uh would you name the months of the year? 888: What do you months of the year? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: uh October November December February June July August September Interviewer: #1 okay # 888: #2 June # Interviewer: um 888: March April Interviewer: What what's the first month in a year? 888: October. Interviewer: Um. 888: Oh the first month? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: September. Interviewer: {NW} New year's day comes on what the first? Comes right after December? 888: New Year's day? Interviewer: Yeah 888: um let's see when is New Year's day? Interviewer: Jan 888: January? Interviewer: Okay okay and uh let's see you know when Texas independence day is? 888: Texas independence day? Interviewer: Yeah. 888: No. Interviewer: Okay uh what's right before June? the month right before June? 888: The month before June? Interviewer: {NW} 888: {NW} I get these months always changed {X} Interviewer: I I get them mixed up too. 888: Okay uh May May. Interviewer: Okay And right before May comes 888: March. Interviewer: Okay uh and there's another one in there it starts with an A. 888: Oh April I mean April. Interviewer: #1 okay # 888: #2 April comes before # Interviewer: Okay um let's see I can't remember if you said next month's what's next month? 888: After April? Interviewer: no I mean okay this is July right? 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: #1 okay so then # 888: #2 August # Interviewer: What? 888: August. Interviewer: Okay uh I think that gets them all okay and and just name the days of the week for me. 888: Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Friday. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 888: #2 Saturday # Interviewer: go back by that slow again. 888: Oh Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Interviewer: Okay and what's the sabbath? What do you what is the sabbath? 888: The what? Interviewer: Sabbath? You know that word? 888: Sabbath no. Interviewer: okay. um If you meet something somebody about eleven oh clock in the daytime you know you you'd say what? 888: Eleven oh clock in the day? Interviewer: uh Yeah. Just to say hello you'd say 888: Good morning. Interviewer: Okay and uh 888: {NW} Interviewer: What do you call the part of the day after you've stopped saying good morning? 888: Good evening. Interviewer: Okay. #1 uh # 888: #2 good night # Interviewer: When does evening start? 888: When does evening start? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 888: I'll say around about twelve. Interviewer: At noon? 888: No twelve in twelve in in the day. Interviewer: At okay when you eat lunch is that? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. 888: {NW} Interviewer: uh Okay how long does evening how {NS} long does evening last? 888: How long does evening last? Interviewer: Yeah lasts until when? 888: I'd say about six oh clock. Interviewer: Okay. And then after after evening you have what? 888: Night night time. Interviewer: Okay. That starts about six oh clock? 888: Yes. Interviewer: #1 okay. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 um # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 what would you say # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you're saying goodbye # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you leave somebody's house after dark? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 888: #1 What would I say? # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # 888: #1 Goodnight. # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # 888: #1 Goodnight. # Auxiliary: #2 {NS} # Interviewer: #1 Okay. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 would you ever say that if you were saying hello? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: No. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 um # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you started to work before # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: daylight you say we started to work before sun {X} 888: Sunrise. Interviewer: Okay and okay um and when the sun goes down you'd call it sun 888: Set. Interviewer: Okay uh will you say the whole word? 888: Sundown sunset or sundown. Interviewer: Okay. um You might say we got to work a little late this morning because the sun had already 888: Came up? Interviewer: Okay and um Yesterday it what? A bout the same time? 888: Came up the same time? Interviewer: Okay um another word for come up would be 888: Rised up. Interviewer: okay okay and let's see let's try another um you say this morning we got up the sun had already {X} 888: Sunrise. Interviewer: I mean the sun had already what what'd you say before you said rised up 888: Sunset. Interviewer: Okay you said rised up though right? 888: Yes. Interviewer: Okay so if you were gonna use that expression or that kind of expression that sentence you'd say the sun had already what? 888: Rose up? Interviewer: Okay uh and yesterday it about the same time? 888: Rised up. Interviewer: Okay and the sun this morning I saw the sun 888: Rise up. Interviewer: Okay uh let's see okay today is Wednesday 888: #1 Right. # Interviewer: #2 right? # Okay so uh Tuesday would be 888: Wednes- what you mean #1 Tuesday # Interviewer: #2 I mean # Okay Wednesday is today 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: S o Tuesday is 888: Tuesday? Interviewer: Well yeah but 888: What comes after Tuesday? Interviewer: No what uh it the day before today would be no matter what day it was you'd say it was 888: Oh Wednesday? Interviewer: Okay Thursday uh Thursday is what? 888: Thursday is Thursday. Interviewer: Okay but um 888: is a day Thursday is a day {NS} Interviewer: Okay Thursday um Wednesday is today. 888: {NW} Interviewer: Thursday is 888: Tomorrow. Interviewer: Okay Tuesday was 888: Tomorrow. Yesterday. Interviewer: Alright. that's alright uh okay if somebody came #1 If somebody came to see you # Auxiliary: #2 Five oh clock # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 and it wasn't # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 it didn't # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 they came on a Sunday but it wasn't last Sunday # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: It's the Sunday before? 888: {NW} Interviewer: You'd say they came when? 888: Last Sunday. Interviewer: Okay but I think you meant three days ago you don't mean that you mean a week before that. 888: Oh {X} Interviewer: #1 so you'd say they came # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 888: #1 The week before # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Sunday. Interviewer: What? 888: The the last week Interviewer: #1 before Sunday. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NW} could you say that again? 888: The week {X} wait let me see the week before Auxiliary: #1 Sunday? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 they're not # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Three days {NS} three days late three days after Sunday? Interviewer: #1 no. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 They came on Sunday. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: {NW} Interviewer: #1 They're not last Sunday # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 but the Sunday before that. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 Sunday before # Interviewer: #2 so how # would you tell me that? 888: They came Sunday before that Interviewer: #1 Sunday before what? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: They came Sunday before #1 I don't understand that # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: How how would you say You have to tell me somehow or the other. 888: {NW} They came Sunday before last Sunday? Interviewer: Okay okay uh okay now if somebody was coming #1 Not next Sunday # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 but the Sunday after that # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 Oh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: How would you tell me that? 888: They came Sunday before the Interviewer: No they're gonna come. 888: oh Interviewer: They haven't come yet. 888: They came Saturday before the last Sunday? Interviewer: No no no okay let's get this straight okay. Okay they're going to come they haven't come come yet okay? 888: Uh-huh. Interviewer: #1 alright. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And they're gonna come on Sunday. 888: {NW} Interviewer: but they're not coming next Sunday. 888: #1 Oh they just # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: They coming this Sunday but not next Sunday. Interviewer: {NW} They're coming okay in in another 888: oh they come go ahead. Interviewer: What? In another what? Three or four days it's going to be Sunday right? 888: {NW} Interviewer: Alright. Well they're not coming in three or four days. They're coming in like eleven days. 888: {NW} Interviewer: See what I mean? see they're not coming next Sunday they're coming the one after that. 888: #1 They not coming this Sunday but they coming the # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 next Sunday. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 is there another way you say that? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 888: They coming the Sunday before next Sunday. {X} Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Hey cut that out boy {NS} Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: If somebody stayed from about the first of the month to about the fifteenth of the month #1 you'd say they stayed about # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: how long? Auxiliary: {X} 888: You say if they came for the first of the month to the fifteenth of the month? Interviewer: #1 Yeah that's how long they stayed. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 From the first to the fifteenth. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: How many weeks? {X} Interviewer: Yeah how long would you say that was? 888: Three weeks. Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you wanted to know what # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 if you wanted to know the time # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 how would you ask somebody? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 What time do you got? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? 888: #1 What time is it? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What would you say again? 888: Huh? Interviewer: If you want to know the time you'd say 888: #1 I'd say what time is it right now. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 you have the time # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 um # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 okay if it is # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay nineteen # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 nineteen seventy-four was last year # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 nineteen seventy-four # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 was last year # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 and nineteen seventy five is # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: This year. Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 and um # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 if a kid has just had his third birthday you'd say he is # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 how old? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Three years old. Interviewer: Okay and if something happened on this day {NS} last year you say it happened exactly 888: The same year. Interviewer: No not it happened last year. 888: Oh it happened last year? Interviewer: On this day. So you say it happened exactly 888: The same day {C: Reduced audio quality in previous line} #1 The same year day # Interviewer: #2 Okay # Okay the same day but how would you let me know that it you know was last year? 888: How would I let you know it was the same same Interviewer: It was last year. 888: #1 it happened the same year before # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 before last? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # 888: It happened the same year before last. Interviewer: Is that how you say it? 888: #1 I just say I'm talking about # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: It happened the #1 the # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 before # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 the year before last # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay the year before last would be # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 when # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 how many # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: Let's start over on this. #1 Try to ignore them # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay if something happened # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: This is July the 23rd. okay if something uh happened July 23rd last year you'd say it happened exactly a {X} 888: The same day and the same year Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 you might look up at the # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 sky # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 and say # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 I don't like the look of those black # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Clouds. Interviewer: #1 okay # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 and uh # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 okay and # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 you look up at the # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 # Interviewer: #1 at the sky in the morning and it's a clear sky # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 you know everything # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 no clouds # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 you'd say # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 well I believe we're going to have a # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Nice day today. Interviewer: Okay and if it's an opposite kind of day and it there's lots of clouds and you'd say well I bet we're going to have a 888: Beautiful day. Interviewer: #1 no # 888: #2 oh what'd you say what # Interviewer: opposite kind of day. 888: Oh a bad day. Interviewer: #1 okay # 888: #2 Yeah # Interviewer: um {NS} if you'd been doing something for a long time you might say I've been doing that for quite a 888: While. Interviewer: Huh? 888: Quite a while. Interviewer: Okay um okay the midway between ten oh clock and eleven oh clock you'd say it's 888: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 midway between eleven oh clock and what? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 between ten oh clock and eleven oh clock. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Oh it's almost Interviewer: So it's exactly midway. 888: #1 mid it's almost # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: #1 {NW} # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: it's between midway it's almost you said between ten oh clock and eleven oh clock. Interviewer: Yeah. 888: and halfway half an hour till eleven oh clock. {X} Interviewer: Okay how would you say that? 888: It's thirty minutes 'til eleven oh clock. Interviewer: okay. And another way of saying it might be half 888: Past past eleven. Interviewer: Okay would you say the whole thing? 888: Half past eleven. Interviewer: okay and then if it was fifteen minutes later you'd say it 888: fifteen minutes past eleven oh clock. Interviewer: uh it's fifteen minutes later than eleven thirty. 888: oh. it's fifteen minutes before it's after eleven thirty? Interviewer: Yeah after eleven thirty. 888: oh fifteen fifteen minutes after eleven thirty. Interviewer: okay but you probably wouldn't say it that way. You'd probably tell me something else 888: um it's forty minutes forty-five minutes after eleven thirty Interviewer: after what? 888: eleven thirty Interviewer: forty-five minutes after 888: Fifteen minutes after eleven thirty. Interviewer: okay okay but probably you wouldn't say that if it you know if the clock was like so so when you go is going like this well that's not a very good picture okay okay there's eleven thirty right here #1 okay # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: and as it moves all around another fifteen minutes you'd probably say it's 888: Half oh half past eleven thirty. Interviewer: {NW} okay or 888: Fifteen minutes past eleven thirty. Interviewer: Okay would you ever say a quarter? anything? 888: Oh quarter 'til eleven thirty Interviewer: okay a quarter till 888: eleven Interviewer: okay yup okay um let's see Auxiliary: {X} no Interviewer: uh okay say that the it's been a nice day you know but the clouds they're beginning to get thicker and thicker and thicker and you look like it it looks like it might rain but you know it it's getting thicker the clouds are getting worse and worse and you'd say gosh the weather is Really getting badder 888: okay and uh if it's just the opposite you'd say the weather is Interviewer: Getting real good 888: Okay Interviewer: Getting 888: Or another way of saying that might be Interviewer: getting sunshine? 888: {NW} and it would you know happen gradually the clouds were beginning to go away you'd say the weather is Interviewer: Clearing up. okay uh if if you get a real heavy rain say you've had about an inch of rain in an hour 888: {NW} Interviewer: you'd say you had a real Auxiliary: {NW} 888: Shower. Interviewer: okay or anything else you might use? 888: uh sprinkle? Interviewer: uh but hard. Real hard. 888: oh. If it really rained or what? Is it just shower {NS} Interviewer: rained hard. 888: Oh it really poured down hard. Interviewer: Okay. uh okay suppose there's a lot of lightning so on with the wind and the #1 rain you'd say that was a what? # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 888: Bad storm. Interviewer: Okay or any certain other kind of storm? 888: well no Interviewer: okay um you might say okay say you had some uh but you had some clothes up on the line out you know out drying on the line and you came out and they weren't there you'd say well the wind must have 888: Blowed them off. Interviewer: okay and uh {NS} uh I'll hang them back up and I hope the wind will not 888: Blow them off Interviewer: Mm-kay. And uh yesterday the wind 888: Blew them off. Interviewer: What? 888: Blew them off. Interviewer: okay um okay so wind is coming okay uh let's see what direction is that? 888: uh Interviewer: Approximately? 888: Where? Interviewer: That way. 888: This going this way? Interviewer: Yeah 888: South Interviewer: okay if the wind's coming from that direction you'd say the wind is what? 888: Coming south Interviewer: What? 888: Coming from south. Interviewer: okay um a wind halfway between the south and the west you'd call a 888: Between the south and the west? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I guess the wind I'd call it the even even wind storm I guess Interviewer: okay but uh does it have a what if it came between the south and the east? What would you call it? 888: I just say just coming from the east and the south that's all Interviewer: okay and what if it came between the north the Yeah the north and the east? 888: North and the east? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 888: I just say it's coming from both directions. Interviewer: Okay what about the north and the west? #1 Same thing? # 888: #2 {D: Both directions eah.} # Interviewer: Okay. um if it's raining but it's not raining very hard you know just barely raining? 888: Yeah Interviewer: you'd say it what 888: Just a sprinkle. Interviewer: Okay 888: Shower. Interviewer: And if it's a little lighter than a sprinkle what would that be? 888: Drizzle. Interviewer: Okay and heavier than a sprinkle would be a what? 888: Pour. Interviewer: What? 888: Pour down. Interviewer: okay um Okay something lighter than a drizzle you know where the drops drops just kind of hang in the air you know you look out and maybe can hardly see across the street what would you call that? Auxiliary: {X} 888: Repeat that again? Interviewer: A few of the droplets little bitty drops of water just tend to kind of hang in the air. {X} It's like you're in a cloud. 888: {NW} Interviewer: What do you call that? 888: I don't know. Interviewer: Okay one word is mist but another one might be what? 888: Drops? Interviewer: Okay sometimes you hear it on the weather report they hear they say they caution drivers because they say well there's there's going to be a lot of {NW} out this morning so you know you better be careful because you can't see when you're driving in it. 888: Fog. Interviewer: What? 888: Fog. Interviewer: Okay and if there's a lot of fog out that day you say this is a real {NW} day. 888: Messy day. Interviewer: uh Use the same word. 888: Foggy day. Interviewer: Okay. um Okay if you if we don't get any rain for a long long long time you say we've having a 888: {NW} uh Dry weather. Interviewer: Okay any other words you might use? 888: uh Hot weather. Interviewer: okay um {NW} If the wind if the wind has been real gentle and especially getting harder and harder and harder you'd say the wind is 888: The wind is harder. Interviewer: Okay or it's beginning to 888: Get harder. Interviewer: Okay and if the wind has been blowing real hard all day but it's gradually getting easier and easier and softer and softer you'd say 888: The wind is clearing up little by little. Interviewer: The wind is what? 888: Clearing up little by little. Interviewer: Okay um if you got out in the morning and you find it's cold but it doesn't feel bad you know it feels kind of good #1 this kind of cold. # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: You'd say gee this morning is kind of 888: Cool. Interviewer: Okay um if it was cold enough {X} last night to kill the tomatoes and the flowers you'd say last night we had a 888: Bad frost. Interviewer: Okay and um you might say it was so cold last night that the lake 888: Froze. Interviewer: Okay and if it gets much colder the river might 888: Freeze. Interviewer: Okay and it had what before I got there? 888: Frozen before I got there. Interviewer: It what? 888: {NW} Frozen before I got there. Interviewer: Okay. uh speaking of rooms how tall they are the height you know you'd say oh most rooms are about eight 888: Feet. Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: okay um I might say did you {NW} that noise? 888: Did I did I hear that noise. Interviewer: Okay and you might say yeah I 888: Heard that noise. Interviewer: Okay and you might say but I'm not scared because I have 888: Heard it. Interviewer: Okay um I might ask you if you know a person and you might say no I don't know him but I have 888: Seen him. Interviewer: Okay or I've 888: Heard him. Interviewer: Okay and um say a friend came to town and somebody else you know saw him and and uh they saw you and they said hey have you seen old so and so yet and you'd say no I 888: I didn't. Interviewer: What? 888: Didn't I didn't Interviewer: okay {NS} and uh {NS} they might say well has your brother seen him yet and you'd say no he 888: Didn't. Interviewer: Okay and uh I might say does your brother like ice cream and you'd say yeah he 888: He do. Interviewer: Okay and uh I might say you don't smoke cigars but he 888: Does. Interviewer: Okay um you might uh give somebody a choice of something and if he would take either one he would tell you he {NW} which one you give him. {NS} 888: I would give him I would give him the other one? Interviewer: No {NS} okay you give somebody his choice 888: {NW} Interviewer: and he said ah give me either one I 888: Don't care. Interviewer: Okay um Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: uh if I asked you um when are you going to I don't know say you were say you're going to Houston today okay #1 and I'll say # 888: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: when are you going and you'd say I 888: I'm going the next day. Interviewer: Okay. and if I went with you you'd say 888: You're going the next day too. Interviewer: Okay or another word for the two of us you'd say 888: We're going we're going the next day. Interviewer: Okay and if they're going you'd say 888: They're going the next day Interviewer: Okay um I might uh if if somebody Okay if a kid was just learning to dress himself the mother brings him the clothes and says here what? 888: Here you go. Interviewer: Okay or something your clothes. 888: Put on your clothes. Interviewer: Okay uh Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: If you came in and gave somebody some cake 888: {NW} Interviewer: you didn't give me any {NS} I might say well {NW} get any 888: Well you didn't give you didn't give me none. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 888: #2 You didn't give me none. # Interviewer: or uh I might ask you a question I might say um something didn't get any? 888: It's uh is it is I'm going to get any? Interviewer: What 888: Is I'm going to get any? Interviewer: Okay um {NS} I might ask you if you think uh certain person is going to be elected okay and you'd say no I don't 888: Think s- Interviewer: Think so but something something many people who don't who do think so. 888: {NW} Interviewer: What would you put? 888: I don't think you should vote on him or what Interviewer: do you um You might tell a boy send your dog over here I just want to pet him I 888: I um Interviewer: I something hurt going to hurt him 888: I'm not going to hurt him? Interviewer: Okay um Say you have an argument with somebody you want me to agree with you you want me to take your side. 888: {NW} Interviewer: You might turn to me and say well I am right 888: Ain't I? Interviewer: Okay and uh if somebody thanked you for a ride into town you might say aw don't mention it we {NW} going in anyway. 888: Don't mention it we was still going in anyway. Interviewer: Okay um if you were talking about the good old days everything used to be better and you know all that you'd say {NW} the good old days 888: Oh the good old days. Interviewer: Okay uh anything else? Nothing? 888: Those good old days? Interviewer: Okay um I just can't I might say think did you just slam that door and you'd say no it {NW} 888: Slammed itself. Interviewer: No or no it {NW} 888: No I didn't. Interviewer: Okay or another way of saying the very same thing you say no it 888: Slammed itself. Interviewer: #1 no we're not talking about the door we're talking about you # 888: #2 no # Oh. Interviewer: Talking about yourself no it 888: I slammed it. Interviewer: It {NW} 888: Slammed itself. Interviewer: Me or I. 888: it slammed itself Interviewer: #1 okay uh # 888: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Could you say it wasn't me or Auxiliary: {X} Interviewer: #1 it wasn't I or # 888: #2 oh # me um No I didn't slam the door. Interviewer: Okay which if you had to choose between it wasn't me and it wasn't I which one would you choose? 888: It wasn't I. Interviewer: Okay.