027: {X}{C:watermelons is what she is saying. The reel is slow here.} and cantaloupe and um market we can buy honeydew and we can buy persian melons and uh Interviewer: are persian melons different from a honeydew melon 027: It's a much larger um more fragile meat in the melon It's it's a larger melon with more fragile meat than a honeydew Interviewer: I see 027: It's a sweeter Melon Interviewer: uh And have you have you ever heard {X} a cantaloupe uh uh uh but a cantaloupe and a ever heard a cantaloupe called anything else 027: um musk melon and I think there is some difference but I don't know what it is Interviewer: have you ever heard a uh a cantaloupe called a nutmeg 027: no now a nutmeg is something entirely Interviewer: #1 yup # 027: #2 different to me # Interviewer: that's {D: ya know} that's a a spice 027: #1 yes # Interviewer: #2 {D: is that what it is?} # ya know what and um missus {X} said thats uh a nickname for uh a cantaloupe 027: #1 I didn't know it # Interviewer: #2 oh {X} # I'd never heard that um when you talk about uh other do you distinguish among different varieties of watermelon 027: {X} {D: no} I don't Interviewer: alright You wouldn't distinguish one with a light green skin from a dark green skin or with uh stripes 027: no Interviewer: they're all just waterm uh these things look like little little umbrellas and they grow close to the ground it's a kind of fungus I guess it's 027: oh mushrooms Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 toadstools # Interviewer: They're poisonous the ones uh 027: #1 toadstools # Interviewer: #2 alright # um {D: Clay uh} uh something he had something stuck in his throat he couldn't 027: swallow Interviewer: and two things people smoke are 027: cigarettes cigars Interviewer: and if you didn't owe anything to anyone you might say I 027: am free of debt Interviewer: or to to anyone you might say 027: I am not beholden to anyone Interviewer: Would you use that 027: No Interviewer: um and if someone asked you like you what would you probably say seriously rather than beholden you would probably say I'm 027: I owe no one Interviewer: alright and if someone asks you if you are able to do something and you say yes I 027: {D: Yes I am} {C: Tape distortion} Interviewer: #1 I # 027: #2 I # am able Interviewer: alright can you do that you say 027: #1 Yes I can # Interviewer: #2 {X) # No I 027: No I can't Interviewer: alright and suppose he's tired he says I am really tired because I what all day I 027: I worked hard all day Interviewer: alright and by the time the a person a guy {D: but the story}{X} they called an ambulance and by the time the ambulance arrived he was 027: He was dead Interviewer: alright um would you use something like already there um 027: if you did I think uh you'd be more likely to say he was already gone because you didn't want to use the word dead Interviewer: okay and if someone {NW} a child doesn't uh {D: is is} isn't very careful you might say he what to be careful he 027: He should be careful Interviewer: um and uh if you're warning a child not to go across the street you might say you go across the street you 027: Don't go across the Interviewer: #1 {D: yeah} # 027: #2 street # Interviewer: Did ya ever use {D: Dast or dastened} or 027: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 darened # 027: No Interviewer: okay um and if a child you thought a child uh um a child doesn't know something and you're really surprised say why you to know that you 027: you ought to know that Interviewer: and do you ever use hadn't ought 027: no Interviewer: in any situation 027: #1 no # Interviewer: #2 how bout # alright if someone asks if you will do something you say no I I do it I 027: uh you say no I won't if you really want to make it very clear you say no I will not Interviewer: okay {D: and if a person if if uh} you're a uh uh you get a flat tire and you have to get out and change it youself and someone's just standing there watching you might say to a person well you, it'd help me you 027: You should've helped me you could've helped me Interviewer: Yeah #1 yeah oh yeah or might # 027: #2 but why didn't you help me # Interviewer: uh you might have 027: You might've helped me Interviewer: yeah um and if someone asks you if you if you you're you're going to be able to to do something and you're not really sure but you say well I'm I might #1 do it # 027: #2 um # possibly I could but I'll have to check I'm not sure yet what's on our calendar Interviewer: Would you ever use might could 027: #1 no # Interviewer: #2 I might could do it # 027: uh-uh Interviewer: oh {X} if you were gonna say it you'd say I might do it 027: I might or I might be able to Interviewer: mm-mm but not might could. Does might could sound foreign or strange to you 027: uh it sounds um put on. I've never heard anyone use it It sounds like two words put together that don't belong together Interviewer: Is that right 027: #1 uh-huh but now # Interviewer: #2 {D: very fascin} # 027: now I have heard I couldn't ought Interviewer: uh I couldn't ought? 027: uh-huh Interviewer: now 027: #1 I # Interviewer: #2 what is # 027: couldn't ought to have done that or I shouldn't ought to have done that Interviewer: Is that right? 027: uh-huh Interviewer: That's one {D: I've} never heard that before 027: #1 that's a fairly common # Interviewer: #2 uh uh might could is # uh uh very common in the lower south um a bird that uh makes a screeching sound is uh 027: Screech owl Interviewer: And one that makes a hooting sound 027: Is an owl. Interviewer: alright do you make any distinction between the {X} the- screech owl is usually kind of a smaller one 027: It's a dear little thing about so big and it makes the most delightful #1 screeching sound # Interviewer: #2 and what do you call the # big ones you just call that an owl 027: uh yes um He has a lotta little Hoo that's very soft and he's a big owl then there are barn owls there are various Interviewer: uh-huh Are there any others kinds you can think of? 027: um There is a horned owl and there is a white owl. A great white owl There is a horned owl And a barn owl And i think just the owl is sometimes called a hoot owl Interviewer: How many of these are found around here? 027: The barn owl, the horned owl The owl that goes {NW} and the screech owl that I can think of having seen Interviewer: How about the white owl is that 027: I don't remember having seen one I don't know Interviewer: Alright Uh an animal that, a bird that gets up on a tree and 027: oh a woodpecker Interviewer: Now what different kinds of these are there uh we have an ivory billed one in the woods by the barn and we have a poleated one that has been up here and next door on the house which is aluminum siding We have them redheads just pecking their hearts away on that aluminum 027: #1 siding # Interviewer: #2 Is that right # And getting nowhere but they 027: That's right and I saw one last fall I was very interested to see one go in a whole in a tree apparently he was nesting Interviewer: #1 hmm # 027: #2 she was nesting # #1 and I had never seen this before and # Interviewer: #2 huh very # 027: I was sitting in the car waiting for Bill and Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 in someone's wooded lot # Interviewer: uh-huh 027: And saw the owl go right down the tree Interviewer: uh and animal that gives off a bad odor is a 027: Oh a skunk Interviewer: Do you ever call it anything else? 027: um Bill says sometimes some days {X} Interviewer: oh {NW} {C:laugh} Did uh you never used pole cat though or 027: #1 I heard it. No we don't use it # Interviewer: #2 {X} # and uh a king of a compre- comprehensive name for a small predator is a small animal is a 027: varmints Interviewer: Alright Now is that uh uh is that just facetious or might you use that uh 027: No that could be used Interviewer: #1 {NS}{C:sounds like a jacket} # 027: #2 by someone that was in position to have them that # wouldn't know what whether it was foxes or or um uh what kind of little animals were coming in like and getting #1 chickens # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # and if um I ever used it in relation to people 027: Now I have heard it used in relation Interviewer: #1 what kind of people? # 027: #2 to people # uh just the lowest dregs of society. Interviewer: okay and now this is a little animal that eats nuts and runs around in trees 027: oh that's a squirrel Interviewer: Now what kind of squirrels do you have around here? 027: I don't know their names we have many Interviewer: #1 are they all the same color? # 027: #2 squirrels # yes they're little grey squirrels Interviewer: you don't have any red ones? 027: I don't think so Interviewer: And this is something like a squirrel um They're small and they run around on the ground 027: And they're chipmunks and they're delightful Interviewer: Do you have those around here? 027: uh In the area. I have seen them in Bristol Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 AND i HAVE # seen 'em in Chattanooga Interviewer: About this big They're just {X} and what kinds of fish are are caught in the streams around here 027: uh at {D: at Talcoe} and uh Little River you catch trout uh they are stocked with Rainbow and sometimes you catch natives and um in the lakes you catch bass brim {NS} perch excuse me there's my Interviewer: Okay 027: {X} Interviewer: Yeah, {X} that's the worst pain I ever had in my uh and it wasn't crushed I just uh tore the cartilage 027: #1 oh that is # Interviewer: #2 into my knee and # that's the worst pain I ever felt 027: #1 It # Interviewer: #2 felt in my life # 027: really is painful, but he gave me uh you know #1 a # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 027: massive dose when he gave me the cortisone so I don't need it yet but he just wanted me to have it Interviewer: Well thats uh 027: It's uh very helpful Interviewer: Well that's uh you gotta sleep if you can 027: I didn't last night I couldn't I uh took uh {D: A namprim} at eleven and {D: a namprim} at 3 {X} between Interviewer: #1 {X} # 027: #2 no I # couldn't get a position Interviewer: #1 {X} # 027: #2 If I could've gotten a position I would've been alright # #1 but i get position today because he's # Interviewer: #2 yeah yeah # 027: aspirated Interviewer: Oh that's good 027: That'll be fine Interviewer: Is the swallowing going down or is it 027: He uh he got as much out as he could but then he put that much cortisone in It's softer Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 but it's not # smaller Interviewer: uh {D:They got to} To brim I think talking 027: Oh yes uh Brim and then we have uh Oh on the bottom there the scavengers the carp and uh sometimes there's some people like catfish everybody likes to catch catfish Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 because # they're fun Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: and uh We have large mouthed bass and small mouthed bass and striped bass which are sometimes called white bass Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: And we have gar and drum Interviewer: What's that drum 027: It's uh big ugly almost blind thing that feeds right on the bottom and has a big flat head like a big Catfish Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: Except it it isn't a catfish and it's a white fish and oh when you catch one it's like pulling a barrel out of the water Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 It's usually # a twelve or fourteen or sixteen pound Interviewer: you don't eat them though 027: Uh some people do Uh they catch them more on trout lines or when trolling Interviewer: uh-huh 027: than when casting Interviewer: uh now Do you have uh anything that you'd call either a poagie or a porgie or a those terms mean any 027: # 027: #1 nothing # Interviewer: #2 thing # The brim is it uh the brim a fairly small fish 027: yes had a little uh black dot right on its cheek as it were Interviewer: Now they uh uh the shell they open the shells sometimes there's pearls in there 027: Oysters Interviewer: And this is something that hops along the ground and makes a croaking noise 027: Well he could be a toad or he could be a frog If he's brown he is a toad if he is green he's a Interviewer: #1 now what do ya # 027: #2 frog # Interviewer: Great big ones 027: Well they're bullfrogs Interviewer: Alright and what about the small green ones the very the very small green ones 027: Well tree frogs aren't they Interviewer: yeah Now have you ever heard them called rain frogs 027: yes and I have seen 'em Interviewer: #1 yeah is that the same thing # 027: #2 just dotting the ground after a rain # Interviewer: As a tree frog do you 027: I don't know I have an idea that a tree frog is perhaps uh more in the woods and less near the water Interviewer: uh-huh 027: So he's probably more like a toad Interviewer: alright so you might be a difference then 027: #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 between uh # tree frog and a rain frog um these things that you use for bait you dig out the ground 027: {NW} those are worms Interviewer: alright. do you call them anything else besides just worms 027: Now Bill would probably have names for them Interviewer: yeah 027: The ones that he releases out here are just about the color of our terrace so that you have trouble seeing 'em Interviewer: Do you ever call 'em red worms 027: I don't know I I stay as far from 'em as I can Interviewer: You would call 'em red {X} term red worm then does it 027: I have seen a sign outside of a um a fishing Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: place or a bait place red worms crawfish lizards Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: usually lizard is spelled with two Zs Interviewer: uh-huh yeah or the "z"s are back #1 wards # 027: #2 {NW}{C:Laugh} # Interviewer: uh they um uh do you ever call them anything other than crawfi- crawfish 027: um they call 'em crawdads I don't I think maybe that's a bigger thing Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 I'm not sure # Interviewer: but uh uh around here are the ones they 027: yes that you seen up in the creek Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 for # crawdads Interviewer: okay now how do you what's that now 027: You seen Interviewer: now was that using a 027: #1 a net # Interviewer: #2 a net # 027: mm-hmm Interviewer: uh these uh have a hard shell large and move very slowly on the ground 027: Yes they are turtles Interviewer: And uh now the ones that live in the water what do you call them what do you call. Are those the ones you call turtles 027: Uh yes they're turtles. They're mud turtles and the others are tortoise the land ones. Interviewer: alright and uh these are something like crawfish they're probably related you know when you when you boil them they get kind of pink 027: Now you're not talking about shrimp Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 now you're talking bout # Thought you'd moved to saltwater Interviewer: #1 right # 027: #2 okay # Interviewer: um uh this is a uh a kind of uh an insect that flies around a candle or a light 027: yes um now I call them canna flappers Interviewer: call 'em what now 027: canna flappers Interviewer: is that right yeah 027: uh this is what I always heard it called as a Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 child # and uh I'm sure it comes from candle flappers Interviewer: oh yeah 027: um Many people call them miller moths Interviewer: uh-huh now that's different from the kind that get into the into clothing 027: oh yes Interviewer: what are those those are? 027: those are moths Interviewer: #1 and the # 027: #2 {NW}{C:Laugh} # Interviewer: the sing- yeah and the singular is 027: moth Interviewer: and the kind of an insect that you see out in the- uh night and it uh lights up 027: lightning bugs Interviewer: alright and this is a kind of long slender insect that has so many wings 027: #1 oh um like a mayfly # Interviewer: #2 {NS} # {NS} Yeah but i think I think we will see if thats the same thing these are um kind of long and and long 027: oh you're thinking of moths Interviewer: no no this this is has a very narrow slender body and long wings 027: And it's an insect? Interviewer: mm-hmm sometimes they are called snake doctors or snake feeders 027: #1 oh yes # Interviewer: #2 or just # 027: #1 oh # Interviewer: #2 mosquito hawks or dragonflies # 027: mm-hmm Interviewer: and which of those terms would you 027: #1 dragonfly # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Do you know either snake doctor or snake feeder 027: Snake doctor I have heard Interviewer: but uh that isn't 027: uh that's when I was a child Interviewer: {X} 027: I don't think so Interviewer: Uh what um uh other kind of stinging insects are there 027: oh we have bees, wasps hornets uh yellow jackets oh um uh gnats and there are mosquitoes and and uh little ants Interviewer: alright now what about these things that dig under your skin 027: chiggers Interviewer: Do you ever hear them called anything else? 027: mm-mm oh ye- red bugs uh-huh Interviewer: they use that term around here? Interviewer: Or is that something from texas 027: I don't know if I picked it up some place else or here Interviewer: uh 027: Because we call 'em chiggers Interviewer: okay um Have you ever seen a nest a um a um a hornets nest 027: yes there's one right up here on the {D: clear story} Interviewer: out on the outside 027: #1 uh-huh yes # Interviewer: #2 and and is it # 027: we had the windows wa- had service master to wash 'em this spring and we had a terrible time getting the man to go around by Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 'em # Interviewer: now what about it. what does a hornets nest look like 027: It is a very intricate interesting thing that almost like it's made of grey paper. very thin, and it's um cylindrical but elongated at the ends and its um it's almost mystical looking It's beautiful I think Interviewer: {X} a wasp what is a wasps nest like 027: If a wasp is the same as a dirt dauber and I think it is we have 'em all around out here. They get into where I water the flowers They get a little bit of the mud and come up and they will even run all the way down a crevice in the house where there's a corner Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: make a little uh triangular crevice and they will build this all the way down Interviewer: now those are the ones. dirt daubers that do you think of a dirt dauber as a stinging insect or not? 027: um none of them bother me Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 very much # So I'm the one that gets to uh tear down the nest Interviewer: uh uh uh yellow jackets. Have you seen a yellow jackets nest? 027: a uh no not the nest I have petted a yellow jacket when I was a small child that was the saddest day Interviewer: oh really? 027: Yes. {C:Laughter} Interviewer: ah um these things hop alo- hop in the grass 027: The grasshoppers Interviewer: alright 027: and also crickets Interviewer: yeah uh small fish used for bait 027: minnows Interviewer: and a spider. something a spider weaves 027: his web Interviewer: now would you call this it it same thing indoors or outdoors? 027: spider web? yes. Interviewer: would you ever use the term cobweb 027: uh it comes out of my nursery book uh-huh Interviewer: but it isn't uh 027: #1 sweeping the cobwebs out of the sky no # Interviewer: #2 it isn't natural tho huh alright # uh and the parts of the tree underground are 027: the roots Interviewer: now what kind of trees grow around here just 027: um mainly we have many hardwoods and uh we have pines cedars we have the laurel family, the magnolia family and the deciduous trees we have many varieties of fruit uh well not citrus fruits and uh the berries Interviewer: #1 what about in the # 027: #2 the berries # Interviewer: what about in the laurel family. What are some of the trees in the laurel family 027: oh we have mountain laurel we have azaleas um we have um the tulip magnolia which is a laurel and we have um oh I think there are seven varieties of laurels in the smokies Interviewer: What about is a the one that um um the rhododendron is that uh is that related to the 027: #1 the azalea # Interviewer: #2 {X} # is that is that uh is that of the 027: #1 yes # Interviewer: #2 laurel family to? # Would you pronounce that word? 027: azalea Interviewer: no 027: rhododendron Interviewer: yeah now uh do you have any sycamore trees? 027: yes Interviewer: would you pronounce that? 027: sycamore Interviewer: now and uh this is a kind of sometim- I don't know if it's a bush or a tree or a vine this is loved the same as a vine today but it's a uh something like well first what are what do you call those things you get a ra- rash from the uh kind of vine 027: Poison Ivy Interviewer: oh small 027: poison oak uh-huh Interviewer: now this is um this is something something else that she talks about that is like that has the same effect as poison ivy or poison oak 027: I don't know what it would be Interviewer: uh the you know sumac or shumac or 027: uh-huh but I didn't know that it gave you a rash Interviewer: does that grow around here 027: yes it's a big tree right down the road here has the um the pods on it Interviewer: alright is it called just a 027: Sumac Interviewer: alright and you mentioned the uh uh well its George washington chopped down a 027: cherry tree Interviewer: And the tree that you that that the uh syrup is taken from 027: Maple Interviewer: and if a if a number of these maple trees if they are there any maple trees in the mountains 027: um not in the mountains I think they're all cultivated We have several in our yard. Most everybody has them in the yard. they're so pretty in the fall when the leaves turn Interviewer: Uh a number of these growing together though- 027: #1 would be a # Interviewer: #2 yes # 027: Grove Interviewer: alright um what kinds of pine trees? 027: oh we have white pine. We have long leaf. We have mountain scrub pine We have uh yellow pine Interviewer: you call all the small ones scrub pine? 027: No scrub pine is one that grows at a high elevation and can't make a very big tree Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 because there's not much # um soil Interviewer: Is that the same thing as a jack pine? 027: I don't know. I've never heard that term. Interviewer: uh they uh Jack I uh wondered if that was a Now is square pine isn't very good lumber or is it uh? 027: um I wouldn't think so because just a little at a lower elevation you can get all the tall straight #1 big # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 027: fat pine you want Interviewer: And you talked about berries. What kinds of berries? 027: oh um on the trees uh we have uh Interviewer: not so much on the trees but on the {X} 027: on the on the ground? Interviewer: {X} 027: strawberries blackberries blueberries raspberries Interviewer: And if you're out picking berries with children you might tell them better be- or mushrooms you might say you better be careful because some of these are 027: Are poisonous Interviewer: uh did you read an article in the paper today about uh two families 027: # 027: #1 oh yes # Interviewer: #2 that # ghastly eh um talk to me about the uh {X} say I must ask my You know someone asks you something and you say well I'm not sure about that I'm going to have to ask my 027: My husband. Interviewer: And he might say I must ask my 027: wife Interviewer: and a woman who's husband is dead is a 027: a widow Interviewer: and you're male parent is your 027: father Interviewer: What did you call your father when you were a child? 027: bobby Interviewer: Was that his name or uh 027: his name was robert Interviewer: oh and what did you call your mother? 027: Johnny that was her Interviewer: #1 okay # 027: #2 name # Interviewer: and 027: #1 {NW}{C:Laughter} # Interviewer: #2 together # 027: #1 friends did # Interviewer: #2 yeah okay and and # together they were your 027: Bobby and Johnny my parents. Interviewer: Alright and what about your um uh um your your uh their parents were your 027: grandparents Interviewer: and what did you call them? 027: uh Grandfather {D: Flonzi} had died before I was born Grandmother {D: Flonzi} was grandmother Grandmama Grounds was grandma Grandpa Grounds was grandpa but they both died when I was four so grandmother is the only one that I really called anything Interviewer: I see 027: for long Interviewer: uh-huh and uh and if someone speaks of uh their offspring they say our what are still still in school 027: Our children Interviewer: yeah and a name that is given to a child um a uh kind of a name of endearment or something 027: a nickname Interviewer: alright and uh something a baby is put in and taken out in a 027: uh a crib a buggy a Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 a basonet # Interviewer: a buggy now do you think of a buggy as the thing with a a hood on it 027: {NW} yes Interviewer: okay and if you take a baby out you say you are going to do what the baby you're going to 027: I'm gonna push him around the block Interviewer: alright would you ever use wheel, ride, roll or 027: uh possibly ride but I think if I were gonna ride the baby I'd put him in the car Interviewer: #1 oh oh okay # 027: #2 and take him for a ride # Interviewer: and talking uh different degrees of the state of being grown up you're talking about uh several boys say some of them some of their boys are being uh pretty grown up but you say he is the most 027: Mature Interviewer: or using a form of grown up though 027: oh he's uh the most grown or Interviewer: #1 no # 027: #2 the biggest or # Interviewer: #1 no we're talking about in terms of # 027: #2 the most grown up I would say # Interviewer: um and a um uh a a um a boy would be a son and his sister would be a 027: daughter Interviewer: and she's not a boy but a 027: girl Interviewer: and a women who's gonna have a baby she's 027: pregnant Interviewer: and someone who assists in the birth of a of a child not a 027: #1 who's not # Interviewer: #2 who's not # 027: not a doctor Interviewer: yeah 027: is a midwife Interviewer: okay and if a boy has facial features very similar to his father's you might say that boy 027: is the image of his father Interviewer: alright and now that would be in looks what about in disposition or behavior 027: oh you would say he's his father over and over or he acts precisely like his Interviewer: #1 okay # 027: #2 father # Interviewer: and if some has say uh she had a hard life she what six children she 027: she raised Interviewer: alright and if a child is bad some might say you're gonna get a 027: you gonna get a spanking Interviewer: alright now uh something more sever than a spanking 027: would be a whipping Interviewer: anything more sever than that 027: you would be punished Interviewer: okay And a spanking is the least uh 027: #1 I think in common terminology yes to me it was the most # Interviewer: #2 corporal of corporal # 027: The most corporal Interviewer: #1 okay yeah # 027: #2 coulda happened but I think thats um # only an individual case Interviewer: okay and speaking of a small something my how you've 027: oh how you've Interviewer: #1 {NW}{C:Laughter} # 027: #2 grown # Interviewer: {NW}{C:Laughter} uh and and uh a lot this year he really 027: He really has grown this year or grown up Interviewer: #1 yeah he # 027: #2 up this year # Interviewer: just 027: shot up Interviewer: yeah or he just he uh 027: grew up Interviewer: yeah um and uh an illegitimate child 027: is an illegitimate child Interviewer: any other 027: oh a bastard Interviewer: #1 yeah in in # 027: #2 in in elizabeathean # Interviewer: yeah any other terms uh that you you heard 027: um there are terms uh cute little terms like {D: Woods Colt} but you never hear them Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 you read them # Interviewer: those are things you just 027: uh mostly you would say that uh he has is the father of an illegitimate Interviewer: #1 okay # 027: #2 child # she has an illegitimate Interviewer: #1 now # 027: #2 child # Interviewer: now talking about degrees of lovingness to say that uh um Nellie is a loving child but Mary is even 027: More loving Interviewer: alright and if your um your brother your brother's son would be your 027: my nephew Interviewer: and um a child who's parents are dead 027: an orphan Interviewer: and a person who the court who appointed by the court to take care of a 027: #1 is a guardian # Interviewer: #2 an orphan # and you speak of all the people related to you, you call these people your 027: my relatives Interviewer: and say uh he is no what to me 027: no kin to me Interviewer: alright and a person never seen before from another town. you'd say he's a 027: stranger Interviewer: and under what circumstances would you use the term foreigner 027: someone who came from another country Interviewer: alright now you mentioned yesterday talking to your husband you were talking something about 027: #1 oh he's a flatland foreigner yes # Interviewer: #2 flatland {X} # now you talk what what about his the uh 027: #1 came from uh # Interviewer: #2 yeah uh # 027: Mississippi the flatland Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 and # and therefore he's a alien to our Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 mountains # Interviewer: so a flatland foreigner would be anyone outside 027: #1 outside the mountains # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh yeah # 027: course it's it's used as a Interviewer: #1 fun term # 027: #2 sure well uh # Interviewer: a friend of mine at the university of Minnesota who's form Chattanooga he used to they used to talk about flatland foreigners and say that they used to drive they used to go up when they were in high school drive around these mountains around the mountains very fast and the flatland foreigners would be going {NW}{C:shutter} I think that's uh their way to drive 027: {NW} Interviewer: if uh uh uh massive ceremonies might say ladies and 027: gentlemen Interviewer: now under what circumstances would you use the word gentlemen 027: when I enter a room Interviewer: mm 027: like uh when we have a dinner Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 party # And I take the ladies to the parlor and then we come back in I say Interviewer: #1 uh yeah # 027: #2 uh greetings gentlemen # Interviewer: #1 but yeah but would # 027: #2 keep your seats or something # Interviewer: would you use the term gentlemen in any other sense would you use the term 027: #1 is a gentlemen yes # Interviewer: #2 yeah # uh but would you use the term gentleman for you'd say There is a gentlemen at the door for example would that 027: I doubt it. Rose might. Interviewer: uh 027: if she came in and said {B} there is a gentleman at the door to see you Interviewer: I see uh the mother of Jesus was 027: Mary Interviewer: and her sister was 027: Sarah Martha Interviewer: I wanted that uh those I wanted both of those 027: #1 Well good you got 'em # Interviewer: #2 uh uh yeah Martha's right but # Sarah I uh Sarah's kind hard to get I sometimes use have to {X} 027: #1 uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # In the song uh Wait 'til the Sun Shines 027: Nellie Interviewer: and uh uh boy named Bill his real name is 027: William Interviewer: And when he's a small boy they might call him 027: Billy Interviewer: Okay and the first book of the new testament is 027: Matthew Interviewer: And a woman schoolteacher might be called 027: Misses so and so Interviewer: yeah or yeah or um I mean any kind of a term that would be a a distinction for um um for a you know to distinguish a woman teacher like a school school ma'am school miss school mom 027: School marm I guess Interviewer: alright and talking about the um say this teachers name was Cooper um and shes married you'd call her 027: Misses Cooper Interviewer: alright now would ya would yous you ever say that rapidly and just say miss 027: Miss cooper Interviewer: #1 yeah mea and thats # 027: #2 yeah mm-hmm if you're not # Interviewer: #1 and # 027: #2 careful you you # Interviewer: #1 and and # 027: #2 you will # Interviewer: still she she would that would 027: She would understand that is was misses Interviewer: #1 okay # 027: #2 Cooper # Interviewer: and go back to that that you don't you know times you don't like uh that that uh uh uh nickname for William 027: #1 {NW}{C:Laughter} # Interviewer: #2 just pronounce it without # 027: #1 {NE}{C:Laughter} # Interviewer: #2 the pejorative intonation # 027: Billy Interviewer: yeah uh now um that a a uh untrained part time minister what would he be might be called 027: a lay preacher Interviewer: alright have you ever heard it called anything else? They sometimes use this for the term for a carpenter or a lawyer 027: #1 Oh a Jackleg preach # Interviewer: #2 okay # 027: #1 -er # Interviewer: #2 you ever # 027: heard that for a preacher huh Interviewer: What have you heard you haven't heard it for 027: For a preacher I know uh uh I know of Jackleg lawyers Interviewer: uh-huh You never heard it for preachers tho 027: uh-uh Interviewer: Oh it its uh um uh more common with preacher 027: #1 is that right # Interviewer: #2 than lawyer # Same thing when they talk about jackleg carpenters or 027: mm-hmm Interviewer: Or your electrician i supposes {NW}{C:Laughter} not necessarily but it it What does Jack leg mean a Jackleg lawyer 027: {NW} uh an upstart. untrained. Interviewer: its someone without formal 027: #1 yes except you # Interviewer: #2 formal training # 027: can't have that anymore Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: because you have bar Interviewer: uh 027: regulations Interviewer: mm-hmm now if I were to introduce you to two people a man and a woman. And I said now this um uh this this man he is my uncle and you'd say then the woman he is she is 027: your aunt Interviewer: yeah and they uh uh President Kennedy's first name was 027: John Interviewer: and the highest rank in the army is uh say the man's name of this uh Jackson or something 027: #1 General # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 027: Five star General Interviewer: yeah or or and well use the last name 027: General Jackson Interviewer: Alright and and the rank below A brigadier general is a 027: a Major general Interviewer: alright alright yeah going down from from gene- out of the general rank 027: colonel Interviewer: alright and Using it with let's say his name is brown 027: colonel brown Interviewer: Alright and a rank 027: #1 Major Jones # Interviewer: #2 a rank that is down in the # 027: Jones Interviewer: Kind of going down tho you have a have a major and then you have a a white colonel and then a major and then a 027: captain Interviewer: yeah now is the word is the word captain ever been used in other words can you ever think of the word captain used in any kind of a of a uh uh a uh uh in any kind of a social uh 027: My father used it as a familiar term when he wanted to ask directions Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 of someone # My uncle always called everyone George but my father always said captain Interviewer: uh-huh is that right? And the man who presides over trial is a 027: Judge Interviewer: and if uh um a person who's attending school he's a 027: student Interviewer: now what would you call, in first grade would you still say student 027: I would call him a pupil Interviewer: alright and um what does the word scholar mean 027: One who is engaged in serious study research Interviewer: {X} so you you wouldn't use the word scholar for student you would just 027: #1 no # Interviewer: #2 just # 027: #1 No I think a # Interviewer: #2 a scholar # 027: scholar goes beyond a Interviewer: #1 alright # 027: #2 student # Interviewer: and uh in An office a man might have a private 027: secretary Interviewer: and in a the members of the what are the town officers in maryville called 027: the city council Interviewer: and and so each on is a 027: is a councilman Interviewer: alright and a man on the stage is an actor a woman is a 027: actress Interviewer: and Speaking of a nationality because a Your nationality you are 027: an american Interviewer: and A person of black black race is a 027: Is an american Interviewer: #1 yeah well yeah uh # 027: #2 oh a # negro Interviewer: alright now what uh derogatory or jocular or for neutral derogatory and jocular terms 027: uh I don't know uh by now I don't know uh how they actually Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 weigh on the # scale because they go from Interviewer: #1 right # 027: #2 time to # time. When I was a little girl um negro Interviewer: mm 027: was the nicest thing you could say Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: then later I had a maid that informed me that she was colored Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: now no matter what color they are they prefer to be called black Interviewer: yeah 027: but nigger has always been. Interviewer: #1 yeah mm-hmm # 027: #2 very derogatory and # pickaninny or coon Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: uh I suppose are derogatory jocular perhaps and black boy Interviewer: yeah 027: or high yeller or Interviewer: you that would be different degrees of uh well high yellers uh that would be uh uh 027: mulatto Interviewer: yeah that would be in in having to do with the difference than color rather 027: #1 yes # Interviewer: #2 than # okay um uh How do negroes usually address whites um you know in uh if they are in a in a um uh position of you know working for them or something 027: well they always call me misses Faulkner Interviewer: uh-huh 027: And Bill Mister Falkner and we had one maid who called bill Lawyer Falkner and she answered the telephone Lawyer and Misses Interviewer: #1 {NW}{C:Laughter} # 027: #2 Faulkner's residence and all our friends # Interviewer: #1 {NW}{C:Laughter} # 027: #2 called daily just to hear it # Interviewer: great and now a uh Words for uh for poor whites 027: poor whites? Poor white trash Interviewer: yeah okay any other terms 027: Uh no I think that's what we mostly use here Interviewer: Alright now what about the term the term redneck or 027: Uh to me that indicates south Georgia Interviewer: Alright and cracker 027: Georgia and Florida Interviewer: alright um have you ever ever heard the term Jackson whites 027: no Interviewer: uh well I'm not sure what it is I think it might {X} 027: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Andrew Jackson or Kind of a # um uh now terms for a rustic 027: oh uh Hick Interviewer: yeah now that sort of thing are there any 027: um There are oh Mountaineer actually and uh hick and hillbilly are um There is something uh that refers to the farm boy I can't think uh Interviewer: Well have you ever heard the term {X} They still use the term Hoosier um Mountain hoosier 027: no- Interviewer: #1 A hoosier usually means some of many # 027: #2 {X} # Interviewer: or a um One of the terms is a jack pine savage I think that 027: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 that jack pine you know # uh I was just wond- I thought about that when you mentioned the scrub pine being up high in the in the in the maybe the jack pine savage could be one of the 027: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 you know up there really up in the hills # And uh uh terms like mountain boomer? 027: #1 no mountaineer and # Interviewer: #2 uh yeah uh-huh # 027: and uh of course your bootlegger Interviewer: yeah have you ever heard the term uh Pud 027: no Interviewer: Now I heard that in In Dayton and uh uh misses Love 027: Did she Interviewer: gave it to me too yeah pud. another one is Sager and uh is a term that blacks frequently use for poor whites a sager 027: oh Interviewer: And I had no information at all on the etymology but its uh pretty interesting its It's not quite midnight but you'd say it's all 027: it's almost midnight Interviewer: alright and you'd say I went out on the ice and I what felled on it well didn't quite fall down but I 027: I almost fell down Interviewer: alright would you ever use like to or 027: I have heard it Interviewer: yeah and if someone's rushing you and you might say to them just 027: take your time don't hurry me Interviewer: alright just uh I'll be 027: take it easy Interviewer: Yeah and I'll be with you in just 027: in just a minute Interviewer: okay and you uh you You're driving the car and you want to know the distance from from here to to um uh Cleveland or something you might ask someone how 027: How far is it to Cleveland Interviewer: do you use the expression what what might you say to a child if you wanna kind of reprimand a child in case he the child is acting up and you want the child to get serious you might say now 027: uh You're thinking of now cut that out Interviewer: No I was thinking more its you you look here 027: uh-uh I would just call a child by name Interviewer: alright you would look here or see here 027: #1 now I would # Interviewer: #2 or # 027: just say now lauren sharp Interviewer: okay 027: stop that {NW} Interviewer: If you wanted to know the time someone Does something goes to town you might say how 027: how often do you Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 go to town # Interviewer: And If I tell you I'm not gonna do something and you agree with me and you're gonna behave the same way you say I'm not gonna do that 027: either Interviewer: #1 uh alright # 027: #2 I'm not gonna do that either # Interviewer: this is my 027: forehead Interviewer: and this is 027: your hair Interviewer: and If I let my And If I didn't shave I'd grow a 027: Oh you'd grow a beard Interviewer: okay and this is my 027: ear Interviewer: which one 027: your left ear Interviewer: and this is a 027: your right ear Interviewer: and this is my 027: mouth Interviewer: And this is one 027: tooth Interviewer: tooth 027: teeth Interviewer: and above the teeth are the 027: lips or the gums Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 I suppose # Interviewer: and then this is my 027: throat Interviewer: and the whole thing is my 027: neck Interviewer: and what's this called 027: your adam's apple Interviewer: have you ever heard it called anything else 027: I don't believe so Interviewer: have you ever heard it called a goozle 027: Now I thought your goozle was uh your inside your throat Interviewer: that's okay uh that's 027: #1 burned my goozle # Interviewer: #2 okay # okay alright in in I see okay and um uh this is the what of my hand 027: the palm Interviewer: And I make a 027: a fist Interviewer: two 027: fists Interviewer: and get pains in the wrists elbows shoulders 027: #1 joints # Interviewer: #2 are pains in the # alright say that again please 027: joints Interviewer: and this is my 027: chest Interviewer: and these are my 027: shoulders Interviewer: the one 027: hand Interviewer: two 027: hands Interviewer: and this is my 027: leg Interviewer: and one 027: foot Interviewer: two 027: feet Interviewer: and get kicked her its kicked in the 027: shins Interviewer: and a person kind of sits down in his heels you know kind of 027: #1 uh he either # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 027: squats or hunkers Interviewer: okay now that's they both mean the same 027: #1 yes # Interviewer: #2 thing # 027: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # alright if a person is uh has been ill for a while and then uh he looks kind of uh kind of white you see he looks 027: #1 a little peaked # Interviewer: #2 kind of # alright do you do you ever use puny 027: #1 not seriously no # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # um now if a person is able to lift a great weight you might say he's really 027: strong Interviewer: would you ever use Stout in that 027: Stout to me would mean someone who was too fat Interviewer: okay and if a person is very easy to get along with you might say he's very 027: easy-going Interviewer: alright would you ever use um uh uh the term good natured 027: yes Interviewer: is that is that the same thing 027: yes Interviewer: would you pronounce that 027: good natured Interviewer: yeah and uh um an an adolescent who say uh speaking especially here about physically appearance say he he looks awfully 027: {D:Gangling} Interviewer: yeah that's right and if uh and if someone just cant do anything right you might 027: #1 {NW}{C:Laughter} # Interviewer: #2 say oh # 027: {NW} Interviewer: yeah or that everything he does is wrong 027: #1 butterfingers # Interviewer: #2 say that # yeah well uh some kind of uh a term such as uh uh well goof dumbbell 027: #1 idiot or stupid # Interviewer: #2 or something # 027: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 027: Dumbox and that sort of Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 thing # Interviewer: #1 and {X} # 027: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: A person who is um uh uh who holds onto the money he has doesn't part with it easily you call him? 027: Think it'd be a skin foot or a tightwad Interviewer: is there a difference between the two? 027: I don't think so Interviewer: do you have a special distinction for a person who tries to get the most out of others for his um Like a boss you know who might work his 027: #1 a slave driver uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 yeah okay # and what about what does the word common mean in the talking about people 027: um ordinary Interviewer: and what does ordinary mean? 027: You see I'm gonna give you back common Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 just # run of the mill Interviewer: alright Is that is that uh in your mind more nearly pejorative or um I mean if someone said you were common would you be flattered 027: #1 no # Interviewer: #2 or or not # and now if you said someone was common uh uh 027: I would be careful not to say it Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 where anyone would hear me # Interviewer: okay okay so it it 027: it it I it doesn't uh have to do with the norm or the average Interviewer: #1 alright # 027: #2 it it's # Interviewer: #1 oh # 027: #2 um um # descriptive state Interviewer: and it wouldn't be used in a complimentary 027: #1 no # Interviewer: #2 sense # that's okay and if if uh an older person gets around a lot you'd say she's really 027: real spry Interviewer: alright and what about a younger person 027: lively Interviewer: alright now well now what adjective would you use that she's what lively she's 027: very lively Interviewer: alright and if something bothers you and you're not really sure just what it is You'd say I don't know what's wrong but I just feel a little about that 027: uh a little uncertain Interviewer: yeah that's the uh would ya ever 027: I'm just not sure Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 about that # Interviewer: would you use the expression uneasy? 027: uh yes possibly Interviewer: how would you use that would that be used in the same? 027: yes uh particularly if I was thinking about someone's health He says he's fine and yet I'm I'm just not quite certain he really is. I'd be a little uneasy about that Interviewer: would you like to stop and move uh 027: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 uh your leg around # 027: #1 no It's fine i may have # Interviewer: #2 totally okay # 027: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 that's what I was wondering about # wondered today If I kept ya #1 yeah I shouldn't have # 027: #2 no cause I moved yesterday # Interviewer: #1 yeah {X} # 027: #2 put my foot on the table ya know # Interviewer: well if someone is uh a little boy wants the light on at night because he's He's what of the dark 027: He's afraid Interviewer: and uh the boy says I'm not afraid of the dark his mother says maybe you're not now but you 027: you used to be Interviewer: alright and The negative of used to be is 027: You didn't used to be Interviewer: yeah does that sound uh 027: It sounds very Interviewer: #1 okay # 027: #2 strange # Interviewer: you wouldn't used usen't to be 027: no I I think I'd say you weren't Interviewer: alright 027: before Interviewer: Before you'd say didn't used to be 027: uh-huh Interviewer: The opposite of careful is 027: careless Interviewer: and A person that uh some if something happens you might say thats a very peculiar thing or you might say it's very 027: strange Interviewer: or other words 027: #1 or out of the ordinary # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 027: or uh what did you say peculiar? Interviewer: yeah 027: okay odd Interviewer: yeah what about a word beginning with q 027: queer Interviewer: yeah now would you how do you use that in any special way 027: that has come to have a rather unpleasant terminology and it's never used just in general Interviewer: #1 okay # 027: #2 conversation anymore # Interviewer: in what sense is it used 027: uh a person who is homosexual Interviewer: #1 now would you avoid # 027: #2 or what have you # Interviewer: or what have you now 027: #1 I would avoid using the word queer for fear someone would misinterpret it # Interviewer: #2 {X} # but you don't you don't do you limit it to to to do you do you limit it in your mind to homosexual or just 027: just to a word that I better not use Interviewer: #1 I see yeah # 027: #2 because I might be misunderstood # Interviewer: You know its interesting because {D: now your husband might...} {X} 027: plain queer Interviewer: you know he's talking about about the I think daily queer a queer town and you see that is really {C:He is imitating her husband} that you see you know it really is that is it's a shame someone told me about fifteen years ago he said it was really too bad because that is such a good word 027: #1 uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 you know and its # 027: #1 it's getting a bad thing uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 and its really been and well it's been that way for uh # I'll tell ya one of the funniest things {C:He must have cut the tape here to tell a story} um a person who just you try to convince a person about something but no matter what you say he still won't come around and you say don't be so 027: so stubborn or so bull headed Interviewer: okay and what might you call a person who's easily offended 027: oh um Interviewer: you might say that person don't be so 027: so sensitive there's a there's something better than sensitive though can't think of it it begins with a P Interviewer: with a with a 027: a P Interviewer: uh-huh um how about touchy 027: that's good or touches I have heard Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 many times # Interviewer: would you use that 027: no Interviewer: what would ,would you use the other one 027: touchy? Interviewer: yeah 027: not really Interviewer: is the word that starts with a 'P' you can't think of might you use that 027: Yes but I can't think of it so I {NW} I don't know what I'm thinking uh Interviewer: I can't think of it either Uh if a person if a person who is that way say he got awfully what when he was teased he said he got awfully 027: oh he got awfully upset Interviewer: alright um how about um uh more than just upset he really was 027: irritated oh I've heard the term we really got him Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 or he was # Interviewer: #1 yeah yeah # 027: #2 got or he was uptight # Interviewer: Well if if someone cuts you off on the you were driving and someone just pulled out in front of you you'd say You were really what then 027: burned Interviewer: okay now but now when I was there's a word. There's a very common word that you might use not awfully 027: I was furious Interviewer: yeah {X} mad and angry would you use either of those? or both 027: um I've stopped using mad because of the the connotation of madness Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: and um and I seldom use angry Interviewer: okay uh a person who is all wound up you might say then just 027: #1 simmer down # Interviewer: #2 he he # 027: keep calm Interviewer: alright and a person who worked all day says I am really 027: tired Interviewer: now do you have any different words for degrees of tiredness 027: worn out Interviewer: alright 027: exhausted pooped Interviewer: alright any others 027: #1 that's all I think of # Interviewer: #2 those are all fine # um and uh uh uh young man might be tired out but come home and take a nap and then get up and go out and he's what to go out and he's what to go 027: #1 raring to go # Interviewer: #2 okay # and do you ever do you know the expression torn down in the sense meaning very or we have as uh 027: #1 no # Interviewer: #2 you know we had a torn # down good time 027: no Interviewer: yeah thats uh huh I don't get that much around here um a little girl has to come home from school the nurse sent her home. She what sick at school- 027: she got sick Interviewer: alright And he is sick now but he'll be well again 027: tomorrow Interviewer: or 027: #1 soon # Interviewer: #2 a little longer time # do you ever use by and by 027: no It's a lovely a lovely #1 expression # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # uh uh uh didn't wear enough someone didn't wear enough clothing went outside you'd say he might 027: #1 {X} a cold # Interviewer: #2 yeah alright # now would you say um and yesterday he what a cold he 027: he caught a cold Interviewer: alright and or he or he has 027: has a cough Interviewer: and a person talks like this he's 027: very hoarse Interviewer: and he has a {NW} 027: cough Interviewer: and a person can't keep his eyes open he's 027: sleepy Interviewer: and you might go in in the morning and someone you might go in and someone is asleep and you want you have you have to go in and 027: and wake them Interviewer: yeah because they want to uh #1 {X} # 027: #2 get up at a certain time # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 027: #2 {D:to be called} # Interviewer: they want to what 027: wake up Interviewer: yeah uh and you doctor might give you some pills and then he comes over and visits you and the pills are all there and he might say haven't you 027: taken any Interviewer: and you say yes I've 027: took some Interviewer: and tomorrow i will 027: #1 not take another one # Interviewer: #2 okay {NW} # uh and if a person can't hear you might say he's 027: he's deaf Interviewer: and yesterday uh a man was working, he worked very hard. You say he really 027: he really he uh put in a good day's work Interviewer: yeah but there's waters pouring down and 027: oh he was just sweating Interviewer: mm-hmm now what about that in the past tense. Yesterday he really 027: He was sweating he did sweat Interviewer: oh or just taking out the did yesterday he really 027: he sweat Interviewer: okay and a large discharging sore that has a core in it 027: I think that's called a canker Interviewer: alright now is that um well if um uh 027: #1 are you thinking of # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 027: something's infected Interviewer: yeah no i'm thinking of something with a core in it that the core has to be removed 027: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 you know # yeah uh and what do you call the other stuff inside there besides the core 027: pus Interviewer: alright and person has a infection is in his hand and his hand is 027: #1 swelled # Interviewer: #2 or your knee take # 027: #1 yes its # Interviewer: #2 your knee your knee is # 027: swelled Interviewer: yeah um I uh it is it is what up would you say it it uh it is 027: it is swelling Interviewer: yeah yeah and uh do you use the expression or know the expression buck fever 027: #1 I have heard it # Interviewer: #2 does that have any meaning # what does it mean 027: {NW} Interviewer: what do you associate it with 027: um {NS} Spring been couped up all winter Interviewer: oh 027: Let's get out and be gay Interviewer: I see Oh I see you don't associate it with someone uh no uh You see it has another meaning too it has a meaning of Of someone who's inexperienced 027: #1 oh yes # Interviewer: #2 at at # getting 027: no that doesn't Interviewer: frightened 027: #1 uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 and and you know # this person goes hunting and doesn't doesn't have uh is inexperienced and fires too soon or something They say he has buck fever or buck {D:ague} and thats another one they its uh uh the same thing uh they they the um the liquid inside a blister is called 027: water Interviewer: alright and a person is uh hit by a a bullet he suffers a bullet 027: wound Interviewer: and they don't use the term much anymore but a wound that doesn't heal right and the skin is up around it 027: yes a doctor told me that once it's um proud flesh Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: I had never heard it Interviewer: no I it It was a long time it was hard for me to explain because I didn't know it's hard to to illicit something you can't 027: #1 {NW}{C:Laughter} # Interviewer: #2 describe. I didn't know what it was # um They used to use a lot of mercurochrome and something else that burned more 027: Iodine Interviewer: yeah and something they use for to cure malaria 027: Quinine Interviewer: yeah And of course if he's no longer alive you say he 027: he's dead Interviewer: yeah he 027: #1 passed # Interviewer: #2 yesterday # Alright now what about some neutral and or veiled and crude terms for this see if we can separate {NS} 027: oh um let's see pushing up daisies um deader than a doorknob Interviewer: yeah {NS} 027: um Interviewer: I've heard doornail I've never heard 027: #1 doorknob # Interviewer: #2 doorknob but # 027: doorknob Interviewer: yeah it's good and just what might you say if you're talkin- you mentioned before you wouldn't you might want to soften it or veil the expression for members of the family or something you might say 027: He's gone Interviewer: yeah 027: That's a euphemism that is used so Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 much # My husband is gone Interviewer: yeah 027: oh when will he be back Interviewer: #1 uh-huh yeah # 027: #2 {NW}{C:Laughter} # Interviewer: well all of these terms, passed on and 027: #1 yes # Interviewer: #2 so forth # 027: #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 or left us # uh departed um someone died you say I don't know what he 027: died of Interviewer: alright and the place where a person's buried is a 027: cemetery Interviewer: and the box is called a 027: now are you speaking of the mausoleum or the vault Interviewer: #1 no I'm just talking yeah that's # 027: #2 the casket # Interviewer: and the the um uh the ceremony is called a 027: a funeral Interviewer: and the family is in 027: mourning Interviewer: and someone might ask how are you feeling and it's it's you know a positive response you might say 027: now are you referring to mourning mourning Interviewer: #1 no this is about that we are a little # 027: #2 {X} okay # Interviewer: #1 okay alright # 027: #2 I'm fine # Interviewer: alright and um uh how about just not quite fine you might say oh I feel 027: {NW} so so Interviewer: alright and if someone's troubled about something you might everything will be alright don't 027: Just don't worry its it'll turn out alright Interviewer: {X} And if you have pains in the joints you might be suffering from 027: Arthur- Arthritis Interviewer: #1 alright # 027: #2 which is # often called Arthur-itis Interviewer: yeah 027: Or rheumatism Interviewer: yeah now uh you never use rheumatism the term 027: no grandmother used Interviewer: #1 alright # 027: #2 rheumatism # And a man came to the door the other day and saw me on crutches he says oh you on crutches, you've got arthritis? Interviewer: {NW}{C:Laughter} uh a disease that took the lives of a lot of children a generation or two back starts with a D 027: The Diphtheria Interviewer: and uh disease that causes a yellowing of the skin 027: Jaundice which is really um Hepatitis Interviewer: #1 is it a liver ailment or not # 027: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: uh they uh get a pain in the side that might be 027: appendicitis Interviewer: and um person can't keep food down you might say he is sick 027: uh to his stomach #1 I # Interviewer: #2 alright # 027: I would not say to his stomach I would say he's uh he's nauseated Interviewer: yeah but if you were going to use sick if you were gonna use something a preposition with stomach is to the one you'd use rather than at in on or of 027: uh neither sounds right to me um I'd think I'd probably say he must have eaten something that upset him Interviewer: but the term but the preposition of those that comes 027: #1 I don't know # Interviewer: #2 comes closest # 027: if it would be at or to I think i would be more likely to say in {NW} Interviewer: okay and a person who is who can't keep food down he might 027: uh he might vomit Interviewer: now any any uh crude terms for that 027: oh yes um heave Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 is uh # the original Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 good term # Interviewer: uh-huh 027: as we were taught Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 uh in # school and then uh regurgitate Interviewer: uh well it is an interesting thing there I'll bet I was over twenty one before i knew that I always thought that vomit was the crude term 027: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 and throw up was the throw up was the uh was the uh # I really did I thought throw up was the 027: oh how about spilled his cookies Interviewer: yeah that's right I heard one that uh from a uh a college senior there uh uh in cleveland last week blow lunch 027: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 was not the most vigorous one I've heard so far # I'd uh never heard of that before 027: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 and I've heard a lot of 'em. Yeah it must be # uh Someone had some news and you know you say why did he come? over you'd say well he came over 027: To tell you the news Interviewer: yeah and if someone uh uh gives you something, lends you something you say that's really nice I'd like 027: Oh I'd like to have one of those Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 myself # Interviewer: oh yeah you you can keep though 027: I'd like to keep Interviewer: #1 yup # 027: #2 this # Interviewer: and you'd say 027: #1 that's not very polite # Interviewer: #2 if uh no no that's # is what the idea here is is whether you'd say you wouldn't say I'd like for to keep this 027: no Interviewer: um You say if that doesn't happen I'd be disappointed I 027: I'd be sorry Interviewer: well using uh uh Something before be I what be 027: I'd really be Interviewer: #1 yeah not # 027: #2 disappointed # Interviewer: no but using the part of the uh shall or will be disappointed 027: oh I shall be Interviewer: #1 uh and # 027: #2 disappointed # Interviewer: glad to see you we 027: uh we shall be glad to see you Interviewer: okay and if a child a child misbehaves you might say I'm gonna what you uh I'm going to 027: gonna spank you Interviewer: do you ever use go and spank, take and spank or up and spank 027: just spank Interviewer: alright a young man is seeing a lot of a girl they say he is what her he is 027: courting Interviewer: alright and she is um his 027: #1 girl # Interviewer: #2 They're not # yeah and uh and uh he is her 027: her date her friend her young man Interviewer: alright yeah alright well I was just thinking boyfriend girlfriend any other 027: #1 mm # Interviewer: #2 kind of terms that uh # um 027: no we've been interested some of the college neighbors Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 that have gotten # back from school have come to see us and brought friends and this is so and so she is a friend of mine from school Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: so and so he is a friend of mine from Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 school # very carefully Interviewer: that's interesting 027: I I thought so too. The child may have come two hundred miles to visit Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 and this is a friend # Interviewer: #1 uh-huh yeah # 027: #2 from school # Interviewer: Just one of the boys 027: mm-hmm Interviewer: yeah um they uh um uh after a date a boy might uh um bring a girl home and have uh he might at the door he might 027: #1 he might kiss her goodnight # Interviewer: #2 uh yeah # now what what are some other terms for that sort of thing in uh uh uh that is some terms some when you were young what terms were used 027: #1 I resent that when you were young # Interviewer: #2 uh yeah # 027: uh Interviewer: #1 {X} # 027: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 027: #2 I think kiss is uh is a very good # Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 term um # I think uh such terms as um necking implying more than kiss Interviewer: yeah 027: #1 and uh # Interviewer: #2 okay # 027: my mother used uh sparking Interviewer: yeah 027: and that sort of thing Interviewer: yeah and then but spooning then 027: #1 went back to # Interviewer: #2 probably came but # 027: #1 grandmother's time # Interviewer: #2 yeah right # 027: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 yeah that's the that # necking yeah um 027: #1 and now they make out # Interviewer: #2 uh # yeah that's right but the the trouble with that is that these terms and making out are different than 027: #1 they they I think # Interviewer: #2 I mean you know it's # 027: #1 so # Interviewer: #2 you know you know and I really don't uh # uh uh you know it its hard especially hard to talk to kids about this because you know they 027: #1 they have definite distinctions # Interviewer: #2 you know they they got uh # right sure uh and if a a man has ask a woman to um um uh to marry him and she decides not to but shes all but she'd agreed before you might say she did what she 027: she broke her engagement Interviewer: yeah or she any any kind of jocular term there that might be used 027: she went back on her word Interviewer: yeah or anything like gave him the mitten threw him {X} 027: #1 oh # Interviewer: #2 uh turned him # 027: #1 possibly turned him # Interviewer: #2 off or # 027: #1 down but I would # Interviewer: #2 right # 027: think of that more in terms of Interviewer: #1 yeah right # 027: #2 not accepting in the first place # Interviewer: #1 but if she did yeah if # 027: #2 {X} # Interviewer: she didn't they went ahead and 027: got married Interviewer: alright and the man a man who uh attends a uh uh a um uh uh at at a wedding who stands up with the groom is called 027: The best man Interviewer: and the woman counterpart is the 027: maid of honor or matron of honor Interviewer: or just one of a number they're yeah 027: a bridesmaid Interviewer: yeah uh a noisy serenade after a wedding 027: well it's called a chivaree Interviewer: did they ever call it a chivaree around here? 027: Yes my mother uh told of attending chivarees Interviewer: uh-huh could ya describe it for me what you 027: the dean of the college married and brought his bride back and the children all got out of the dormitory. The college at that time uh took you from first grade through college Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: and so the children were various ages Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 and they took # whistles and spoons and bells and what have you Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: and they went and hid on the lawn and as soon as the lights were turned out in the apartment then they started the Interviewer: #1 {NW}{C:Laughter} # 027: #2 {D:wild and nuts} # and then they serenaded Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 them # Interviewer: now the ser- but it it is serenade and uh uh a serenade then is part of the chivaree? 027: It was in this case Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 I # do not think it always was. I think they sometimes ended up with things like Interviewer: #1 yeah # 027: #2 fireworks and # horseplay Interviewer: yeah well they sometimes call that uh they call the the whole thing a serenade 027: oh Interviewer: uh but I mean you 027: #1 to me the serenade is # Interviewer: #2 {D:That's great} # 027: the music Interviewer: yeah chivaree is uh yeah the chivaree is uh very this is about I think this is the first as far south as I've 027: #1 as you've heard it? # Interviewer: #2 I've uh # it's very common in uh you know up uh and this is a very distinct regional 027: #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 uh term # uh if you're talking about being in knoxville yesterday you said I was 027: I was in Knoxville Interviewer: #1 if you're gonna put a # 027: #2 yesterday # Interviewer: put a preposition in there what would you use? 027: I went to Knoxville oh I'm I would not say I was over in or up in or down in because it's too close Interviewer: alright if uh uh under what circumstances do you use up down and over? 027: oh I go down uh to Atlanta Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: Or over to Nashville or down to Memphis Interviewer: mm-hmm 027: or out to Houston Interviewer: Alright out to Houston 027: uh-huh Interviewer: and then um uh where did and and uh and up to 027: oh Roanoke Washington. Interviewer: and north would be north south and then over is east and west but out is is 027: #1 is out West # Interviewer: #2 is east? # Out west you would say out to I went out to New York 027: no Interviewer: #1 out is # 027: #2 I went up to New # York Interviewer: yeah How about uh um if you went to um Richmond 027: I go up to Richmond Interviewer: alright let me think uh I think my geography If you went to Chapel hill 027: I'd probably go over across Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm yeah # 027: #2 the mountain Chapel Hill # Interviewer: now you wouldn't 027: #1 I'd # Interviewer: #2 You # 027: Go over to Chapel hill and I'd go Over to Ashe- Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 027: #2 Ville # I'd go over to Spartanburg and Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 027: #2 columbia # I sure would Interviewer: but the but but you couldn't you couldn't you'd say over to Co-