Interviewer: {NS} That's uh 117: {X} {D:is a Maybell} transformation {X} Interviewer: Uh huh. 117: So when that comes from while that uh Interviewer: {NW} 117: {D:fascinating} Our librarian is uh from the North and she says she had a very {D: She's gonna put it.} She said she had a very good friend that was uh had that name. Interviewer: Uh huh. Where's she from do you know? 117: Well I know she's from New York. Interviewer: Uh huh. {NS} I don't think I have any relatives in 117: {X} you aren't a relative {B} {X} Interviewer: Well he was gone before I got #1 there {NW: laughing). # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: He was he was gone before I got there. But uh that's the um Uh Um It there's I think there's still a lot of that tradition still at Chicago and I think I think some of it's good and I think some of it's uh Some of it's kinda more questionable. Now I'd like to begin just by just by getting some uh some information about you. Um The um What's your place of birth? 117: My place of birth was in Coweta County on the west side of town. Interviewer: Right here in uh 117: Right here in Coweta County I was born on {D:gridded land} in Coweta County and my father was a tiller farmer at the time I was born. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And so they {X} me to to Newnan. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And uh So I spent I was in the third grade here when I left. And when I pass that farm and I spent my life on that farm. Interviewer: I see. How far out of Newnan was that farm? 117: Eight miles. Interviewer: I see. Um. And uh What's your Wou- Would you give me your full name? Your full name? 117: My full name? Interviewer: Yes sir. 117: It's William {D: Pitts} {B} Interviewer: Okay. And um The and your address here. 117: It's Newnan. Interviewer: Huh. 117: Post office box. {B} Interviewer: Okay. And how old are you? 117: I am eighty let's see {X} I'm eighty-three. Interviewer: Eighty-three #1 okay. # 117: #2 I was born in # {X} Interviewer: #1 What year were you born? # 117: #2 I'm knocking # I'm knocking on uh eighty four but Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 I was born # on the nineteenth of July. I have a birthday I'll be eighty four. Interviewer: Okay what year were you born in? 117: Eighteen ninety-six {D: Hell} it's Eighteen eighty-six. Interviewer: Eighteen eighty six. And uh what church do you go to? 117: Well I was raised in the Baptist church. Interviewer: Okay. And what was your occupation before you retired? 117: Hmm. {D:A fly boy} Interviewer: Okay. Did you farm out here in uh 117: #1 Yeah it was # Interviewer: #2 In the town? # 117: about that fourth district yeah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh. What kind of a uh uh what kind of a farm did you uh did you work on? 117: Well it was a a cotton farm. Then i turned it into a a quite interesting a livestock raised of purebred Jersey cattle. Interviewer: Uh huh. 117: And we farmed that way until uh the thirties in it In the nineteen thirties when the government took over farming. Why they limited your production and you and your tenants couldn't make a living. That's a fact since the everybody knows your tenants couldn't make a living. So they begin to leave. Yeah and my arm begin to leave me I had pretty good tenant farmers. Got along fine with the nigger help. And uh when they left me why that was the end of it. Interviewer: How large a fa- how large was your farm? 117: Oh the farm was about uh It was about four hundred acres at that time. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Um. Do you still own that farm? 117: Yep. Interviewer: And you have you have people uh people working it uh 117: Nobody left I still own it. Interviewer: Oh I see but nobody's farming it right 117: #1 Nobody's farming it. # Interviewer: #2 now. Uh-huh # Uh. Is it big enough to get in the soil bank? That's 117: Huh? Interviewer: You couldn't put it in the soil bank huh? {NW: Laughing} 117: Well I don't know {D:why I} quit fooling with that kinda #1 stuff. # Interviewer: #2 Uh huh # I see. Um. Did you how about your formal education? 117: Buddy I never did get {D:any far in the uh} oh about in Latin We'd get started in Latin and then We only had the five months schooling. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: We had two in the summer and three in the spring. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And we go to school and start Latin, I liked it. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm # 117: #2 And we'd # get so far with it. John and Mary Saturday come in they want to study Latin with a {X} back to the back and so I Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {D:And I write} {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: I- Is there such thing as {X} declension in Latin? Interviewer: Yes! Sure. 117: Well I think that's {D:my father's} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Uh huh. # 117: {D: Anyway I} We get there and three months left instead of picking up the and going on a little farther We turned back to the first {D: that day} {D: and so I told her} the same old Latin book. Interviewer: I see. {NW: Laughing} 117: {D:Then when} We changed teachers. One teacher would give us uh the English pronunciation. {D:And we were saying} {X} {X} Interviewer: Uh huh. 117: You know what I'm #1 talking about. # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 117: They'd give us the uh other pronunciation. Interviewer: I see. How how many years did you go to how old were you when you st- Did you go uh uh 117: Huh? Interviewer: How how old were you when you stopped attending school regularly? 117: Oh I was in my teens I wasn't real old I I wouldn't say {X} teens I {X} Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: So you'd say you had a couple years of high school and in in i- translating it into days terms. 117: Well I I was {X} was intermediate school I I {D:started, studied} with grammar and it was Interviewer: I see. and history I hated and I read everyday. I see. Yeah I'd like to know if you'd tell me how you got interested and how you you must then have uh spent uh s- done a a lot of reading. Um. On your own. Um. Outside of school to become so interested in genealogy. 117: {X} Interviewer: Yes. 117: Well I wouldn't know. It is just a habit. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {X} My father was a a person that liked to read. Interviewer: {NW} 117: And uh When I was a boy I'd come in town here and get the mail before it hadn't {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And he always took the New York {D:Ward} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And he took various other magazines so when I got up grown and got to I wasn't a good farmer. We took the {D: sullen} cultivator which was published in Atlanta by the Hunter's Club and it's very good thing then I would reach out for the agricultural #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: then read that. And uh till I branched out into uh the Breeze Gazette. I got them old copies of some copies of old Breeze Gazette which was a wonderful {D: live-stocker} magazine that was published in Chicago by Sanders brothers {D:and Sanders} I think. And uh I was always interested in livestock And I didn't like cotton picking don't you bet. Interviewer: {NW} 117: But I always liked livestock. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And uh It was something inherited trait because uh I was raised on the fact that {X} lived down in the Troup County. And he was a race horse who ran and uh loved fox hunting and was a pretty good gambler but Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: So I was raised on that tradition to love horses and it was even born in me to love horses. Interviewer: I see. 117: I did love and care for them {NS} Interviewer: Uh huh. {NS} 117: {D: very good driver.} {NS} So now if I had a chance {NS} {X} Interviewer: Is that so? Uh what uh where was your uh were your father born? 117: My father was born down here in Harris County. {NS} Interviewer: Now is that out is that down near LaGrange? 117: That is uh Hamilton is the county see it's it's the county down below uh Troup. #1 {X} County just # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: south of Troup Interviewer: Is LaGrange in Troup County? 117: Lagrange is Troup #1 County. # Interviewer: #2 I see. I # I think I {X} out Was it on is is uh Is that county on the uh Alabama border? 117: Yes it's a border county. Interviewer: Uh huh. 117: {D:Back to that} left of Interviewer: {NW} 117: Harris County is where Callaway Gardens is. Interviewer: I see. Sure I know where that is. Ah was your your father was born there? 117: My father was born there. Interviewer: Where was your mother born? 117: My mother was born right here in the fourth district {X} Interviewer: Is that so so you're old settlers huh? How about their um uh uh did uh did they have any formal education? 117: Who? Interviewer: Your parents? 117: Oh my father did not have too much. And my mother was the daughter of a school professor. Interviewer: I see. {NW} Where were you where were her parents born? 117: Well now. {X} That's her father. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: was born in Anson County North Carolina. And her mother was born in Jasper County Georgia. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And uh they were people that were raised up in uh Middlesex County Virginia. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: The- there's a {D: heap full} background on background then #1 It's all interesting to me. # Interviewer: #2 Yep. # Yeah it's interesting to me too. I wish you'd tell now so that they um uh your mother's um a uh uh people then came to to uh uh came came into Georgia from North Carolina about when? 117: About when? Interviewer: Yeah. Well my next door neighbor is a genealogist #1 by the way. # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: My next door neighbor is a genealogist. 117: He is? Interviewer: He's a retired colonel his name is {D:Colon} Clemens. 117: Clemens? Interviewer: Clemens. Yes sir. 117: {X} Interviewer: Yes he was he's uh he's a retired army colonel he's a wonderful man. 117: Yeah yeah yeah yeah. So now let's see this. I believe it was Yep {D:Parner} {NS} Now here's here's Francis Lee Clover. That's, that's my grandma. Interviewer: I see. 117: And she was born in uh Jasper County Georgia. And she was the daughter of uh Robert {D:Tuggums.} Who married Elizabeth {D:Gentridge.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: They were first cousins. {X} back to the to the the L- double E- Lees. Interviewer: Is that right? 117: And uh They well I always knew they was first cousins but I didn't know which one was which I knew that there's two sisters Darling and Esther. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And that their their parents were They were first cousins and so they both from uh from George Lee and Mary Buford. Interviewer: Huh. Is that the same Buford family that the highway Buford Highway the in the town of Buford up here in 117: I wouldn't I wouldn't know #1 what it was or not. # Interviewer: #2 Uh huh. # 117: They these were all in Middlesex County #1 Virginia. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # Now this Oglethorpe County that's uh that's over east of here oh east 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: This Oglethorpe county is uh between {D:Lexington} {X} {D:towns meet} Interviewer: #1 Yes # 117: #2 And # before you get to Washington Will. Interviewer: Is that isn't Athens in #1 Oglethorpe? # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: Athens. 117: You pass Athens after you go on through #1 {D:Athens} # Interviewer: #2 Right # So so your mother's family then came into Georgia um from the east then or or uh came into into eastern Georgia really before #1 coming out this way? # 117: #2 They came over to # {D:Wilton} Green County {D:over Green County} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 117: {D: Here, here's a big boy in my} You find loads of trouble up there. Interviewer: Yes here, 117: There he is. Remember the condition of {X} That that is where the {D:back line} comes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: But there is a unusual uh Interviewer: So then they {X} Ludowici does it? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Ludowici You know that that um that's uh that is a 117: Well that {D:Ludowici} was from a an Italian poet. I I fished up that name it's such an unusual name there was uh an Italian poet I've gotten #1 I finished that up I finish up everything. All I want # Interviewer: #2 Uh. I see. Uh huh. # 117: Oh Now here is here's something rather interesting to me if you getting into to my line and uh oh uh Frances M. Chapel his uh father was named William {B} Now I had a diary my father's diary that gave this family history Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And when i lived there at home and came up here a man broke into my house and stole a whole lots of furniture We found it but my diary he burned up. Interviewer: #1 My goodness. # 117: #2 And # I only had small comforts about it but you Interviewer: That's a shame. 117: See there's uh {D:William} {B} married uh {X} married this captain {B} That's an unusual Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: name and I Interviewer: Like why a {B} huh? 117: #1 I'm finding the most unusual things about that. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} Uh huh. # Well that was the name of the marshal in Dodd City. 117: Well {B} Interviewer: spelled the same way. 117: That that's uh not too factual. {X} Nobody going to credit that too much. I I wrote to them out there in Arizona and they didn't sure they wouldn't believe anything that he said that man that wrote that said. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. I mean they questioned that he was he was a real person. {C:Laughing} 117: Huh? Interviewer: They, they 117: There's no mistake There wasn't why {B} {X} {B} was the guardian of some children up in Nash County North Carolina they wasn't why {B} But now here Interviewer: #1 That's the same # 117: #2 his # story and that's why {B} age was Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {X} is a question Interviewer: I see. Now you're so your uh your father's parents then um are out of uh North Carolina and your mother's parents ultimately out of Virginia. 117: That's right #1 Middlesex County Virginia. # Interviewer: #2 Middlesex # County Virginia. And your your father's out of this uh uh was Arrington the name of a town in is that is that a cou- #1 a county? # 117: #2 {D:Arrington was very} # popular in the now I found that I've got that {X} Arrington Interviewer: Uh huh. 117: was I find settled in in uh eighteen and seventy {D:down in} Troup County census. Interviewer: I see. {NS} 117: All this stuff is factored without our block but there's something I never liked too much about this. I got a {NS} {D:Yeah when you go far enough} {NS} {D:somebody's} {NS} origin now the chapel is one of the most little interesting little booklets and this Ladies of Georgia written by {D: Apsel} Harris Chapel. But I had this book on Chapel but I can't get it to Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 {X} # And I always thought that was {X} Chapel. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And I find him in the Walden County in eighteen twenty when I'm going over that census tracing up these other folks. But Interviewer: Do you mean you work you worked with that lady over there who wrote Wayfarers for #1 Wayfarers in Walton? # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 117: #2 I've re-, I've read that. # I've corresponded with that lady Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {X} Interviewer: Some interesting things in that book. I've, I've, I've looked in that book. I haven't read the whole thing #1 but I've # 117: #2 It's just # very interesting Interviewer: Uh-huh it's one of the newer uh county histories. {NS} 117: {X} I I didn't read I've got something that I I that I got the other day Wait a minute. This may be this may be what I want. Show you the election. Charles Smith wrote about the law. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: #1 And # Interviewer: #2 Yep. # 117: And that I don't like too much. I wrote to the Texas folks about that. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: Here's something that's interesting about these people. These {X} about this {D:singer} {B} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: You make the connection between Bill {B} and uh {B} #1 Bill {X} # 117: #2 {D:Now I haven't got that} # I I don't like it. #1 I I wrote # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: the Texas group and they didn't get what I was Interviewer: There's a town over in Douglas County named or #1 or around Douglas in Douglas County or or # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 117: #2 in a place called {X} # Interviewer: {B} Yes. 117: He was quite a {D:writer} Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} 117: Not it goes on to say that this {B} {X} Turn over to the next page and if you'll see {X} {D: got anything online about} Interviewer: #1 Yes. # 117: #2 {X} # {D:Remember} {X} Interviewer: It says here Irving {B} #1 Uh # 117: #2 {X} # {D:Teaches about Evergreen he's along} Interviewer: Yes. 117: Evergreen and the teacher married a ms {X} or something like that. Interviewer: Uh that's {B} See a mr Samuel G {B} um uh Samuel G {B} mr Greg yeah married ms {B} Her family lived about a mile from Evergreen. One of its members thought that her father {D:saw} {D:saw in} Andersonville in the Harrison home the first piano ever brought {X} Uh {NW} That is very interesting. 117: She had a {X} piano and it was a was a very successful instrument. That's what that says. You can Interviewer: #1 Right that's right you have it # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: you have it memorized. 117: Huh? Interviewer: {X} And I'd be greatly impressed {X} carefully study this and return home and build one for his own family which is said to have been a very a quite successful instrument right. 117: Well alright now Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: Now there's there's what {X} You see that {X} I sent that to Texas {D:and they didn't} ask for my #1 information # Interviewer: #2 I see. # #1 The original Bill # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {B} spelled his name {B} Yup. In the reprinted article from the Fort Worth Texas Daily Democrat in eighteen seventy-seven was this noted. Now this is from Ge- {D: Georgian Georgian} by uh Lucian 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Lamar. Uh-huh. # Um. Eh. And then. {X} Phil {B} {D:Lee} of Georgia the man who furnished the witticism {X} which Charles A Swift prepared and published some years ago was accidentally {X} uh. Decatur Texas. Last month March fifth he fell from a wagon loaded with corn and the wheels fastened over his neck and killed him instantly. He was a rough old man perfectly illiterate but replete with the original ideas and witty sayings. He lived near the Brangston place at Kingston. That's very interesting. 117: alright I was up there yesterday to try and to get stuff over the {D:Cast} County censors. #1 of 1860 # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: See I didn't find this William {B} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: I don't don't consider that as factual I think you pick this man up {X} These facts that's in that book I #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NS} # 117: I don't I don't accept. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 {X} # I don't accept. When I go down and read those uh {X} saying you can't take those facts because somebody stretch 'em Interviewer: Sure. 117: {X} Interviewer: The I see. I see. Um. 117: Now that that {X} part {X} {D:down} that's that's a truly demonstration family because uh {X} {D:Jump} {B} was always trying to invent something. {D:That they didn't think} {X} spirit was in invent {B} {X} {D:Well mighty} Everyday calling Fly boy type a folks. Interviewer: I see. Um what about your uh your earlier ancestors uh before settling you know they Um the people who settled in Virginia where eh Do have you traced uh traced them back to uh uh to England and uh Ireland Scotland Wales or 117: #1 {D:I hate} {C:laughing} # Interviewer: #2 {NS} # 117: {D:do it} I {X} you see something that I I've got no you {X} when you get on Jeffrey's Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: You take uh. When uh. James. {X} {D:sent} {X} over here. Those uh aristocrats were against them and so they weren't accorded too much I don't get too much {B} {X} I've got something in history {D:that's ridiculous} {X} {D:trouble these} {B} up north had the {X} come on down there and then {D:pick your fellows up from 'em} from there it's it's Interviewer: #1 ridiculous # 117: #2 Is that # it's ridiculous the amount of stuff I got Interviewer: Is that so? I sense a Now have you ever been married? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Have you ever been married? 117: No they wouldn't have me. Interviewer: I see. Okay. Um. They um Uh Well that's about all the Well have you ever how about about um uh uh your your your social contacts though in in Newnan? Have you belonged to any organizations or or clubs? 117: Never did join them but the {X} makes such a sorry member to {X} I didn't go any farther Interviewer: I see. I see. And have you traveled much? 117: Nope. no farther than I could drive {X} can't even travel Interviewer: I see. Where how far have you been outside of the 117: Well I ran up to Memphis and Nashville bout as far as Alabama Interviewer: I see. And uh wa- was that just on a vacation? 117: Huh? Interviewer: On a vacation? Was that or was it were you there on business or 117: Oh it was just for fun we went up there to to uh Nashville Dairy Show Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: I told you I was a livestock breeder. Interviewer: #1 Yes # 117: #2 I was going up there to # Nashville Dairy Show. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And uh. And quite a nice time. {X} the show and there's four hours well sitting there having a wonderful time at the show there's a lady from Mississippi sat by me Interviewer: Uh. 117: On the left and I was having a good time {X} on the right. And lo and behold She mentioned Newnan I always mention Newnan Georgia it's it's it's pretty well-known town. Interviewer: Sure. 117: And. She hit the ceiling said she did describe this town. She was going through here one time and uh the policeman got her for speeding or something and charged 'em ten dollars or something like that And she {X} And that woman dried up like a {X} Just like that. And we did enjoy the show. Interviewer: #1 Is that right # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 That's funny. That's # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Too bad. 117: We we boys went there and and uh say couldn't get a room that night #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 at the hotel. # 117: And I I was a little {D:badmouthing} And {X} said we can go ahead and sleep in the car I had a little t-shirt on I said I didn't come from Newnan Georgia to here to I will stay in I'm inside this house it's getting cold and the That hotel man {X} folks and {D:get one with these little parlors up there} and had a little a little room and they put us down four beds and so we spent the night there in one of those hotels in in uh Memphis. Interviewer: I see. Uh-huh. Now look what why don't we um uh uh get started with uh with some of this #1 and uh # 117: #2 {X} # Go ahead. I #1 I {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} Okay. # 117: I'll go along with you Interviewer: Okay. Fine. Now there all there'll be all different kinds of kinds of things but just remember that this is n- in no way any kind of a test or anything it's a matter of simply a matter of getting your your natural uh ya know #1 speech. Huh. # 117: #2 It's a matter of analysis. # Interviewer: #1 That. okay. # 117: #2 {X} # This is a problem and you're gonna analyze it. Interviewer: Right okay. 117: #1 And I'll # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: state the facts. Interviewer: Okay that's fine. Now uh uh what would you call that uh right over here? Um. This this part of this uh right here? 117: I'd call that the hog Interviewer: Okay. And the smoke would go up the 117: Huh? Interviewer: The smoke in here in the fireplace would go up the 117: Up the chimney. Interviewer: Yeah. And in a fireplace uh those two metal things that hold the wood in place 117: They're ant arms Interviewer: Yeah have you ever called them anything else? 117: Me? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Never called them nothing {D: but ant arms} Some folks call 'em dogs. Interviewer: Okay. What any particular kind of people call them dogs? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Do you associate that with any particular kind of people? Whose who #1 call them dogs? # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Or just # 117: #2 I I wouldn't say that. # Interviewer: I see. Would your father call them dogs? For example? 117: We called them {D:ant arms.} #1 We didn't, we didn't vary # Interviewer: #2 I. # Okay. And the clock over there is up on the what? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: What do you call this? 117: I call that a rattle piece Interviewer: Okay. And in a fireplace um a large piece of a tree that you'd burn in there. What would you call that? 117: Well that's called a log of wood. Interviewer: Okay. And what do you call uh resinous uh pieces of wood for starting a fire? 117: {D:Tips?} Interviewer: Yeah. Uh the kind with uh with a lot of pitch in it or #1 or uh # 117: #2 Oh that's # {X} Interviewer: Okay. 117: {X} Interviewer: {NS} 117: {X} #1 and things out that's # Interviewer: #2 {NS} # 117: {X} Now you're getting to {X} That's {X} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 {X} # A lot of {X} Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. And then how about larger pieces of wood? To start a fire. Have a general term for all wood that you burn to you to get the fire started? 117: I don't know there I I gave it a {X} You go out yonder You tell 'em go out yonder in the woods and fetch me some {D:brace} to put around this pot. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} #1 Okay. What I was # 117: #2 {NS} # Interviewer: thinking of was um uh do you use the word kindling? at all? 117: We use kindling as much as {X} Interviewer: I see. Well that's what I was getting at. And if you were cleaning out of what's that stuff you clean out of a stove pipe? 117: That's soot. Interviewer: Okay. And the stuff you clean out of a out of a fireplace? 117: That's ashes. Interviewer: Alright. And what color is my shirt? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: My shirt. 117: Your shirt is #1 what color? # Interviewer: #2 Yes. # Yeah. 117: It's a white shirt. Interviewer: Okay. And I'm sitting in a? 117: You're sitting in a rocking chair. Interviewer: Okay. And what would you call a piece of furniture like this? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: What do you call this piece of #1 furniture? # 117: #2 That's supposed # be a sofa. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Now what about um Um. The um uh How would you distinguish that chair the one you're sitting in from the one I'm sitting in? 117: Well yours is is a rocker and this is just a straight I would say it's a straight chair and this is this is this is different from what I was reading in when I was reading we had a straight chair and a rocking chair. Interviewer: I see. But even in #1 upholstery # 117: #2 This # This this this this is this a present day old uh cheap upholstery stuff. Interviewer: Okay. Um. And the tables and chairs that uh all of the these are those are all pieces of what? 117: What? Interviewer: All of the tables and chairs in the room. The term to describe all of those things Those are all pieces of what? You know a general term for all the tables and chairs? 117: Well just household affects is #1 all I know. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Yeah. But well what kind of a store would you buy such things at? 117: Where would I buy 'em? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: {X} store. Interviewer: That's that's the word on there. Now how about on the on the what do you call those things on the windows that you pull up and down? 117: Shades. Interviewer: Okay. Do you ever call them anything else? 117: No never called #1 anything but shades. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 117: you had curtains you used to have before that they had curtains that were cheap uh they were color. They were Interviewer: #1 Uh huh. # 117: #2 {X} # lace But they had colored curtains that was my grandmother had them they were some sold Um and I can't tell {X} {D:a Mabel} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: But anyway they were just shut out there Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: Give you privacy. Interviewer: I see. But that those are those weren't on those are you just those are different from from shades? 117: So yes they were different. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 They were # They were curtains. Interviewer: Okay. And the place in the bedroom where you'd hang up you where you'd hang up your clothes? 117: You talking about a closet? Interviewer: Yeah. Um. And do you ever use the fuller term than just closet or do you just call it a closet? 117: Oh well now in in in some homes you didn't have closets you had a wardrobe in there. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 You had a # big wardrobe. It uh held your clothes. Interviewer: Okay. How is that different from a closet? 117: Oh it's a piece of furniture. Interviewer: I see. It's movable. 117: Huh? Interviewer: It's movable. 117: Movable that's right #1 And the doors # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 117: then uh It's a piece of movable furniture I've got one upstairs Interviewer: Okay. Um. The uh the um up above the the second story of the house let's say um where you might store things. 117: Oh you talking about the attic? Interviewer: Yeah. And the room in the house where you uh Uh do the cooking? 117: That's the kitchen. Interviewer: {NW} Do you remember a how about out on your farm did you have a uh uh ever have an outside kitchen? A kitchen that was separate anytime 117: #1 at one # Interviewer: #2 from # 117: at one time the kitchen was separated from the house out home Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 yes. # Interviewer: Did you have a special name for it or did you still just call it a kitchen? 117: It just a kitchen. It was out in my place that kitchen was uh the original building well grandfather built this big house and so they for a long time they would live in this uh bedroom {X} And then cook and eat out there {X} I suppose they spend the days most of them out there in that uh kitchen. Interviewer: I see. Um And how about a little room off the kitchen where you might store things? 117: A pantry? Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh a room where you might keep um worthless furniture implement implements and so forth? 117: Ah that go up the attic Interviewer: I see. What would you call that stuff? Would you have a name for for that that uh um 117: The stuff that's you've ceased to use? Interviewer: Right. 117: uh No you didn't you didn't dignify it with a name. Interviewer: I see. Well I wonder if there's something uh are any of these words familiar to you like plunder or junk 117: Well I think I've heard them named plunder. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 But # junk was not junk is too {X} new. Interviewer: I see. Okay. Um. 117: Plunder I think would would really fit in there. Interviewer: Okay. Fine. Now uh what do you use to sweep a floor with? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What do you use to sweep a floor #1 with? # 117: #2 I. # don't. Interviewer: Well what would you use? 117: {NS} Interviewer: If you if if you could for you if you were going to though? 117: I'd use a broom. Interviewer: Okay. Now if a broom were here 117: Huh? Interviewer: We're talking about where the broom is. And the broom were here in relation to this. Where would you say the broom is? 117: I'd say behind the door. Interviewer: Okay. You see there's whether you say behind the door and back of the door that's 117: I say behind the door. Interviewer: Okay. And uh On on Monday women traditionally did what? 117: What? Interviewer: On Mondays. #1 Women # 117: #2 {X} # they washed. Interviewer: Okay and they uh They so you say they did their what? That's right they did their 117: Well it was the washing they dug their clothes out of the washing #1 machine. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # And on Tuesday they did their 117: is that the ironing? Interviewer: Yeah. And. And uh a general word for both washing and ironing You say they're doing their 117: laundry work? Interviewer: Sure. Uh when you come into your house Um first you to walk up from the street you walk up the what? 117: Walk up a steps? Interviewer: Okay. And um then uh and then you're standing on the 117: On the porch. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: On the porch not the veranda {X} is a word used but we always call it a porch. Interviewer: Okay how does a veranda is a is a veranda different from a porch or is that just another #1 word for it? # 117: #2 {D: I don't know} # I never had a had occasion to looked it up. Interviewer: Does a does a veranda have to does a does a porch have to have a roof? A roof. 117: I well I In my opinion it would. Interviewer: What would you call it if it didn't have a roof? 117: I wouldn't call it. Interviewer: Okay. You {X} you wouldn't have a name for it? 117: I wouldn't have a name for it if it didn't have didn't have a roof over it. Interviewer: Okay. Um. And you said you walk up the steps? If you're talking about walking up to the second floor Would you still say walking up the steps? 117: We used to call 'em stair steps you put stair in there Interviewer: I see. Inside. 117: Yeah Interviewer: In the house. Outside just steps 117: #1 Just steps # Interviewer: #2 but in # 117: But inside you put stair steps. Interviewer: Stair #1 steps. # 117: #2 Cause # you going upstairs. Interviewer: Okay. I see. Um. If you didn't want the door that way you might tell someone please 117: What close the door? Interviewer: Or. You might say close the door or you might say Another word you might use is 117: Well you could say shut the door but I think we've said close the door Interviewer: #1 {X} # 117: #2 {X} # we would've said Interviewer: #1 close the door. # 117: #2 Okay. # Interviewer: What's is there a difference between those two in your mind? Between close the door and shut the door? 117: No there's no difference in my mind Interviewer: #1 between 'em. # 117: #2 Uh huh. # Interviewer: I see. Uh and horizontal overlapping boards Uh for protective or decorative purpose you know on a house. Um Do you remember what they're called? Something put over on a frame house. 117: You mean the outside? Interviewer: Yes. 117: We call that the weather boarding. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and um You get in um in a car And you um you what it? You turn on the motor and you Or a team of horses. 117: That's talking about the Interviewer: Yeah. 117: starting Interviewer: No yeah but then but after you get 'em started then you do what? Then you 117: Oh Lord I done quit driving I almost Interviewer: #1 That's the word I'm talking # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: That's the word I'm talking about. 117: Driving? Interviewer: Yeah. Now. So you say today I'll get in a car and what to town? I'll get in the car and 117: and drive away. Interviewer: Sure. That's right. And yesterday I? Uh forty-five miles I 117: I drove forty #1 five # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 117: miles an hour. Interviewer: Right. And many times I have what from here to Atlanta? Same idea. Yesterday or many times I have from here to Atlanta. I have 117: Driven? Interviewer: Sure. 117: That's what you want. Interviewer: That's right. You see the some of these are uh there are some some regional differences in in these 117: #1 Mm-hmm. Buddy I # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # 117: Buddy I've driven all over Atlanta and I'm one of the few men that know the names of the streets. These young folks can't tell the names of the streets {X} tell me the name of the streets {X} Interviewer: Is that so? You know your way around pretty well. That's good. 117: But uh they say I don't know I don't know how to get there Interviewer: Uh-huh. Um the the part of a house that the rain falls on outside 117: Is the roof. Interviewer: Okay. And the rain then runs down the roof into the 117: Gutters? Interviewer: Okay. Um and if you had several peaks on your roof. 117: There'd be gables. Interviewer: Okay. Or or or okay several gables What would you call the place down here? Here are the gables like this and then down in here you might have to clean leaves out 117: {X} Interviewer: Sure. Um. Before um uh they had indoor plumbing um they had to people use the what? 117: Uh we had we ours was a privy you'd go to the back house {X} Interviewer: Uh what other names you familiar 117: #1 Privy is # Interviewer: #2 with # 117: all I know we just called it the privy. You talking about that little toilet? Interviewer: #1 That's right. # 117: #2 {D:that high-bowled} # toilet? Interviewer: Sure. 117: We called it a privy. Interviewer: A privy or a back house is the other word #1 {X} # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay. Um. Now uh say that um we're talking about that we said the talking about a a building a person lives in you call that a A person lives in a 117: You talking bout the {X} house? Interviewer: #1 Yes # 117: #2 We # called it house {D:we weren't no} We didn't say a residence. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 But that's what it is # Interviewer: Sure. And what would the plural of what's the plural of that word? 117: Houses. Interviewer: Sure. And the largest outbuilding on the farm is What? 117: Largest building Interviewer: Outbuilding. {X} 117: Well that's a barn. Interviewer: Okay. Would you describe the barn in your on your farm for me? 117: Yeah the barn had uh four stables on its grounds A room where you put the harness and the staircase that went up to the to the first story's floor #1 where you # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: stored hay. Interviewer: Okay. And what did you call that anything else besides the storage floor? 117: No I wouldn't say I called it anything else um. There's a hay storage part but it #1 The barge # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: was stored in the storage space for Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: the feed for your livestock. Interviewer: I see. You um but you didn't have a special word 117: You you you want me say {D:a} hay mile? Interviewer: Uh well would you use that? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Is that a is that word would you would you use that word? 117: We didn't. That that was what you the hay mile is where you stored hay if you Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: going back to the sometimes. Interviewer: Uh. Who would did but people around here didn't use the word hay mile? 117: cause I reckon I'm the only one that's used it. I I read that somewhere. Interviewer: Okay. Well what I was thinking of was was hay mile was fine or the word loft. 117: #1 Well oh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: you were right you that I never thought about #1 the loft. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Uh-huh. 117: A loft. Interviewer: Yeah #1 you might you might # 117: #2 Yep yep. # Interviewer: use that. Uh alright and what about a a building for storing corn? 117: Oh that's a corn trip. Interviewer: Alright. And a um uh a large uh collection of hay outside? 117: Uh that's a hay stack. Interviewer: Okay. And um Were there any different uh Uh were they all pretty much the same just piles of hay or were they Were there some different kinds of uh of hay stacks in the uh 117: Well down here in the South you always had a pole to stack the hay around with it. Interviewer: #1 {NS} # 117: #2 {X} # No difference in the types. Interviewer: Uh-huh. How how did you do that? Now you say you say stack it around if you just put the pole you you 117: You set your pole down. Then you put your something on the bottom to keep it from rotting the hay from rotting at the bottom and you just pile it around you're always trying to keep your pile just a little bit high around the pole Interviewer: #1 I see the # 117: #2 so that the # water was dripped off in Interviewer: Okay. 117: It was fairly satisfactory to keep it. Interviewer: Did you have a name for the for the um uh for that what sort of stuff would you put on the bottom to keep it from rotting? 117: Well you'd take old limbs and wooden things and you'd want it where it had a little {X} {D:leaned} over the bottom. Interviewer: I see. And did you have a special name would you call that pole anything in particular? 117: The pole? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Mm-mm no I only call it a stack pole that's only thing I #1 know. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Fine that's what I was getting at. Um. And then um. Uh. Do you have a name for a smaller pile of hay? Um. Pile or stack of hay something smaller than that particularly in haying time you know when you might um before you put it together into this large 117: Oh you might be maybe you think think fi- fishing for rack. #1 A hay rack. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # A hay rack. That would be a smaller 117: as you a certain types of hay we used to cure by we had a a rack that would let it stay on the empty little skewer Interviewer: I see. What was that like? Was that just a small uh #1 A small # 117: #2 It had a # small frame that uh you put small amounts of that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: On. Interviewer: What was that frame How was that frame built? What did it look like? 117: It was uh Three had three legs it was uh oh by the time {X} We grew a lot of pea-vine hay. #1 And # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: pea-vine hey was hard to cure. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And it would mold and you you'd get in there after it's wilted a bit and these things had um sticks like that. There's three there's three legs you going to have six like #1 this. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Now you say you're talking about the the wreck and you say it stood about {X} four feet off the ground? 117: Well you'd you'd put get it up as high as #1 you could go. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 117: and those things if you'd cross over the things like that and you'd put your hay around that and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: hang up and get up to {X} Interviewer: I see. But then the circulation of the air uh uh 117: It would cure out good hay yeah. Interviewer: I see. Okay. Um. Cure out good hay you mean as as opposed to it it would it would um You mean all of the hey would be good you know I mean it would 117: and you you you save the the leaves you get The leaves would drop off of pea-vine hay Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And you saved the leaves in a bright green color and that gives It don't discolor. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: Too much sun discolors your hay. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: Just a pure in the winter why it it discolors and then um a little dampness and you put it up too green in a in a in a the barn and it'll mold on it. Interviewer: I see. Um What do you call a shelter did you call a shelter for cows? 117: Called it a cow shed I reckon mine was a cow barn. Interviewer: Okay well is there a difference between those two or just uh um between those two words? 117: No there's no difference between them words it's only what the you had. {NW} {NW} Under the average uh We didn't have too much fine architecture down here when #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Uh huh. {NW} # 117: and there's just a little building thrown up and you you put a little lean two shed back there that's why that's where your cow shed that's that's a shelter where they get under when it's raining. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But and this would be the place where they would be it now That But the cow shed was a temporary in other words a temporary thing where they would get out of the rain during the day. But that was different from the cow barn where they would go at night is that right? 117: Well that's about all the that's about all the provision you made for your cow shed when you had a cow shed. Interviewer: I see. The cow shed I see. The cow shed was like a lean to the How about a place where the cows are taken to be milked? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: When the cows were 117: You talking about the cow tits Interviewer: Okay sure. 117: {NW} Interviewer: Right. Exactly. 117: Well that's how most of them are milked in the tits that the tits while the calves spent the day you know Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: The calves would spend the day in the pen and at night you Cows come up you tell them then {X} and pull her tits Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Okay that's what I was getting at. Right. Now uh a shelter or enclosure for hogs and pigs 117: Hmm? Interviewer: For hogs and pigs. 117: Oh that just a pig pen. You may want me say pig stall but it's just a pig #1 pen. # Interviewer: #2 No # I want you {X} uh and what do you call them you call them pigs when they're small they get bigger you call them what? 117: What? Interviewer: After the pigs though are usually usually use that word for the smaller ones right? What do you call them when they get bigger? 117: A shoat? Interviewer: Yeah and and they still bigger. They're full grown. 117: Oh you're talking about a a sow? Interviewer: Alright. 117: And let's see what what did they call them after they uh those that you A barrow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And a boar. There there's your classification. Interviewer: Right. And all of those are all a a general term for all of them would be what? 117: That's right you your barrow was the one that's you got your meat from cause your boar didn't give you They they were not too good to eat. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh do you have a general term though for all of them? For for for sows and and boars and barrows all of them would be different kinds of what? 117: I don't know they're just hogs #1 all # Interviewer: #2 That's # that's {X} I'm sure. Uh. What you were saying something about barrows though before you were 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 saying # Uh you were speaking about the barrow you said that uh How does it How is a barrow made a barrow? 117: He was he was unsexed Interviewer: Okay. What do you call that though when you do that to a 117: By cutting him? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: You cut him. Interviewer: Okay. 117: He was unsexed. He's just like a gelding horse he's he's unsexed. Interviewer: Okay. And if you're talking about a horse you you'd also say just they cut him? That's the term? Say they cut him? 117: Oh yes I that'd be the term I presume I I wouldn't That's beyond me but I know a gelding is a unsexed horse. #1 and a # Interviewer: #2 Huh. # 117: barrow is an unsexed uh unsexed hog. And a steer is an unsexed cow. Interviewer: Okay and they call it unsexed sheep? 117: Hmm? Oh. Is a {X} Interviewer: Okay. Um. Good. Ah before you were talking about um About uh dairy farms 117: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And uh uh what is the word that word dairy mean to you? 117: Dairy? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Dairy means good milk with up heap of cream on it. Interviewer: I see. Um. And you'd use the word dairy as a as a substitute term for Um you you said dairy milk it meant it was a rich milk is that the idea? 117: No I ate dairy as It had more significance way back yonder it used to they used to call Down at the creek they had a spring and they called it dairy house. #1 And you'd # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 117: keep the milk and {X} That was way back yonder. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you remember having one of those on your 117: #1 We didn't # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: we didn't have one. Interviewer: I see. Interviewer: {NS} Alright now I think that that's {C:mumbling} Oh okay {C:mumbling} {NS} Um. What do you call the place where the cows sheep and uh other livestock might graze? Right in close. Near the barn. 117: You talking about the pasture? Interviewer: Okay. Now a pasture is um uh A pasture might be quite a distance from the from the barn. I was thinking of something that might be fenced in close to the barn. 117: I wouldn't I wouldn't get that. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: Pasture's all I know. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Well what do you call the open area right around the barn? 117: Oh we call that the uh lot. Interviewer: Okay that's what I was getting at. Whether you call it a barnyard or a lot you see. Now 117: Barnyard's what you wanted. Interviewer: Well either one. Are is that different from a lot or is it the same thing? 117: {X} We call it we called it a horse lot out there and then the cow one was separate but Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Um do you um do you make a distinction among different kinds of sizes of of fields that you're planting things in? 117: Yeah {D:definitely} we had pastures yeah. #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 117: Now you're getting down. Interviewer: Okay. Now what what is a patch and how big would it be and what might you grow in it? 117: A patch could be anything that grows. Interviewer: I see. And #1 how # 117: #2 We had a # watermelon patch and a goober patch and then uh sweet potato patch #1 and # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: you didn't have those in fields your your fields was was your staple crop. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But they the patches wa- was the patch how how large could it be and still be a patch? 117: A patch could be as much as uh anywhere from up to four or five acres. Interviewer: Okay. Um. 117: No limit to size of patch it's Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And do you have any other designations for fields I mean are they just patches and fields? Or are there are there different Uh do you make distinctions among different sizes of fields? 117: We didn't. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Now uh around a field you might put up a what? 117: A fence? Interviewer: Okay. Now what kinds of fences um did you uh are you familiar with? 117: Oh well they used to use a rail bit for the zigzag bits but that was there was some some of those old things on the farm when I went there #1 but I # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 117: did all my fencing with a wire. Interviewer: Okay. Um {NS} how did you keep that wire up? What was what was the wire attached to? 117: To a post. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Did you {X} Did y- how did you have those uh um {X} how were they spaced? How far apart were they spaced? 117: Oh I generally put mine about uh twelve fifteen feet. Interviewer: Put what? 117: My post was about twelve fifteen feet apart I generally walk about five steps and that's where I {D:quite, acquired, count} fifteen feet Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: That's my favorite step five feet and Interviewer: {NW} 117: make a post hole. Interviewer: Okay. 117: Make your fence straight I always try to make them straight. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 117: #2 It leaves # a strain on your post. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: Tighten your {X} Interviewer: Alright. Uh. {X} Do yo- any different kinds of fences uh in town? Uh fences th- that used to used to see around uh around uh houses? A short uh a fence for instance that might be out in front of a house painted white? 117: Oh that was a picket fence. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: Made with some square pickets. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And then there was a paling fence. Interviewer: How do those differ? 117: The difference? {NS} Well a picket was a was an ornamental fence more and it was and a paling was a flat thing about four inches wide. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And it various length and then those {NS} And it could go on in a in the town where you had a {D: briar} fence this it would be solid board call that a {D: briar} fence. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 Then # you had these horizontal types. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {X} Interviewer: Is there a name for the horizontal the the uh for the horizontal types? 117: I wouldn't know any #1 names for those # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 But a # blind a blind fence is more like is like a almost like a wall right? 117: #1 That's right # Interviewer: #2 This this # 117: solid wall. Interviewer: You can't see #1 see # 117: #2 used to # When we lived in town we had {D:blind, briar} fences between us and our neighbors. Interviewer: Uh-huh. I see they give you some privacy in the 117: That's #1 right # Interviewer: #2 in the # backyard. Um. Uh are there any different kinds of wire fences? 117: Well yes there was uh difference in types of wire barbed wire was what I used and now you take those loom wire fences they were too expensive for for me to use only limited quantities. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: I use uh that {D:olden} wire it's a You know what {X} Interviewer: Well it's like they called a cyclone fence like you see around factories that kind of 117: That's #1 right and # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: there was a lighter than this it was a lighter than a cyclone. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 {D:It was} # It was a lighter farm fence than that. Interviewer: I se- 117: {X} heights Interviewer: Uh-huh. But a but a a wire just a an ordinary wire fence that uh you sometimes see on fires that are not that that don't have barbs on them Um just a um uh 117: Is it wool wire you're talking Interviewer: No just ordinary wire. 117: #1 You mean # Interviewer: #2 {D:Okay} # 117: a straight wire? Interviewer: #1 Yes. # 117: #2 {X} # {X} is not It was never satisfactory because {NS} you couldn't keep tightening it. Interviewer: I see. Um. What is a a a term for um um expensive or good dishware? 117: Good what? Interviewer: Dishware. Dishes you know? 117: You talking about china? Interviewer: Yeah. Now di- do you do you remember a um um {NW} You raised you had chickens didn't you? 117: Huh? Interviewer: You had chickens didn't you? 117: Yeah. Interviewer: On your farm. Something you put in the in the chicken um nest. Uh the hen's nest the fooler. 117: Oh you talking about those uh eggs. There's made of {D:parson} I think. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Do you remember what they were called? 117: I do not. Interviewer: Okay. Well I was wondering if you ever called it a china egg? Or a or a nest egg. 117: Well they were they were made of china those Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: eggs but we didn't have to we didn't have to use them our our hen #1 laid # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: without those Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: The the term nest egg though isn't familiar to you? 117: When you go to nest egg and there was uh You could mark a certain egg and leave it in the nest for oh a long period of time Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: {D: and uh.} Interviewer: #1 Well that was # 117: #2 {X} # I wasn't I didn't have any chickens. Interviewer: I see. Okay. Uh what do you uh when you went out to when you went out to the well or out to the pump uh you brought the water back to the house in a what? 117: In a bucket. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh 117: A cedar bucket at that. Interviewer: I see. Um. {NW} What other kinds of uh buckets were there besides cedar buckets? Was that the only kind? 117: Oh there was just pine buckets #1 and so # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: forth so {D:I, almost} but up at the house they had steel buckets. Interviewer: I see. Um and what was used How did you take the when you take uh um the you took um garbage or out of the house or um uh {NS} {X} food that wasn't eaten out say if you can take it out and give it to the hogs. What would you call that thing that you might carry it out #1 in? # 117: #2 We call # that a slop bucket. Interviewer: Okay. Um. And uh what um uh now in the city though you don't uh You'd call what would you call it in the city? The thing you put your your um um 117: {NS} You got me I'm a country boy I don't know what you call it Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 in the city. # Interviewer: Well the what do you call the people that come around and pick this stuff up? {NS} You know the city {NS} sends 117: The garbage collector? Interviewer: #1 Right. Yeah # 117: #2 Mm-hmm. Yes # Interviewer: That's what I was getting at. Um. What {X} You're gonna fry an egg you put it into what? 117: What? Interviewer: Frying an egg an an implement in the kitchen used to fry an egg? 117: Talking about a skillet? Interviewer: Okay. 117: Alright. Interviewer: Alright. Is a skillet the same thing is is are there is a skillet different from something else? Uh uh similar to that or do you call all those things that you fry eggs in skillets? 117: Well you have a skillet and you have a baker you have a baker that you could bake bread on. Interviewer: Uh-huh. How does a- 117: A a baker didn't have any the {D: up friars} A skillet was They got both of 'em brown they were Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 generally # made out of cast. Now you getting me back when I was at home. Interviewer: Okay good. 117: They were they were cast and a skillet had a a rim about that high up. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 And then it would hold a # it holds lots of grease so you could do fry a chicken in a skillet. Interviewer: Uh-huh. It would hold what did you say? 117: Huh? Interviewer: It would hold what? 117: It would hold a lots of of grease #1 I see. # Interviewer: #2 Because you # 117: could fry things in a skillet. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: A baker didn't have anything and that's why you bake {X} bake a hoe cake. Interviewer: I see. Okay. Um {NW} what's a hoe cake? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What is a wha- #1 is # 117: #2 What is a # hoe cake? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 Whole # cake. I mean it's it's some cornmeal and a little {D:longer} and {NS} you bake it {X} one side and put 'em over and bake 'em on Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 the other. You ain't # ever had a whole cake you ain't lived Interviewer: Okay. #1 Is that # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: is that is that flat? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Is it flat? 117: #1 Yeah it is # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: flat. Interviewer: It's a flat um a flat piece no I don't think I ever have. Now if you ain't ever had a whole cake now if 117: #1 you want # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: to the best of eating in the world you'll never get it that's uh ash cakes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What's an ash cake? 117: An ash cake was one that they used to take cornmeal and and water and put it in a shook and put it in the hot embers. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And when it come off got done there was You know the difference between an ember and a coal don't you? Interviewer: {NS} Well then at the embers 117: #1 Embers # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: E-M-B-E- #1 R-S. Embers. # Interviewer: #2 Yes. {X} Yeah # the embers are the ones that are declining 117: #1 Embers # Interviewer: #2 right? # 117: is a is a red hot ashes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And you put the ash cake in there and you went down there Elizabeth's house and and {X} line had a ash cake down there and you'd bend down the {X} and had the best coal heap in the world. #1 Cornmeal # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: in the world. Interviewer: Is that right no I don't think I've ever had it. Um. Uh what did you call a a heavy iron pot uh that you might use to uh to boil potatoes in? 117: A pot's all we called it. Interviewer: Alright. How about something to boil water for tea? 117: Boil for tea? That's a kettle. Interviewer: Alright. And something you put cut flowers in? 117: Cut flowers in? You call that a vase I reckon. Interviewer: Alright. And at the table the three implements that you have to um uh to eat with? 117: You got a knife and a fork and a spoon. Interviewer: Alright. Now what's the plural of knife? {NS} 117: {NW} {NS} Two knives. {C:laughing} Interviewer: Yeah that's right. That's right Uh-huh. Um. {NS} Now after working in the barn you might what your hands before {NW} before you eat? {NS} 117: Before eating? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: You wanna wanna wash them hands? Interviewer: #1 No that's # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: No no I that's what I wanted you uh to yeah well um uh Now after a um a large uh um meal now the {D:usually} the woman's going to do the dishes. Um she'll wash them and then she'll hold them under clear water and she'll do what? With the the dish to get the soap off. 117: Are you talking about rinsing the soap off? Interviewer: Yes. Uh and then something she might use to remove pieces of food from the plates. 117: Oh you scratch that out with {D:anything from a couple of hands} to remove the food I Interviewer: Okay. Um how about a piece of cloth she might use? {X} to in uh 117: What you talking about dish rags? Interviewer: Okay and then something for drying the dishes 117: Well that would be a a cup towels. Interviewer: Alright. Uh {X} are there a- Name some different kinds of towels. 117: Well Interviewer: Other than a than a cup towel other kinds of towels you have in the house {NS} 117: Well you you getting me lost now. Interviewer: Alright. What would you call that the big towel? 117: That's a big bath towel. Interviewer: Alright. #1 And then # 117: #2 Then # you have you have a hand towel is that the You you got the most of them {X} housekeep. Interviewer: Okay. {C:laughing} Uh. It you go in the kitchen you wanna get a drink of water you turn on the um the turn the water on the water comes out of the what? 117: Over the faucet. Interviewer: Alright. And what would you call that outside the house? You have one on the side of the house and you put a hose #1 to it # 117: #2 Called # a hydrant. Interviewer: Alright. Uh did you ever call it anything other than a faucet? 117: Nope Nope. Interviewer: Alright. #1 You're not # 117: #2 Tap # you talking about? Interviewer: No. #1 Another one. # 117: #2 {X} # Well what do what do {C:laughing} Interviewer: I'll say the #1 word # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: spicket or spigot. 117: Well no a spigot that'll that come out the Suet barrels are spigots. Interviewer: Okay. Um. 117: That's why you had your soil {D:tin} in the barrels in the smokehouse. You ain't said nothing about a smokehouse yet? Interviewer: No {X} Well tell me about a smokehouse. #1 Do you want # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: Describe a smokehouse for me maybe there's some things I'm missing there what uh uh what uh what kinds of things were in a smokehouse? 117: Everything's in a smokehouse. Interviewer: Is that right? 117: Smokehouse was a in my place it's a log building. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And up overhead you had poles and there you you cured your hogs and uh but 'em in brine in a barrel or something in salt for a certain length of time then there were pig mount and hung up there and you smoked it. #1 That's # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: where the smoke come in. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {NS} 117: And there your meats cured out in March you you'd take 'em out and you and uh start that smoke you know {X} use hickories chips. #1 And then # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: let it uh blaze up and have to watch that and keep it just smoked and a {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And it give your meat a It'll cure your meat and give 'em a delicious flavor. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. How long did you uh how long did you have to smoke things? Um before you could eat them? 117: I I I didn't know. That wasn't my job. Interviewer: I see. But did you you you say you did the you you slaughtered the hogs in the um uh {X} #1 in # 117: #2 And you # stored your meat in the smokehouse and that's where you put your barrows and suet. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And you raised your suet We was raised on suet and cornbread #1 that # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: And ho- and hog meat. Interviewer: Okay. What kind of {D:syrup,suet}? 117: Oh you made it out of {X} plant. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: The {X} folks used ribbon cakes. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. That was that was more expensive? 117: Huh? Interviewer: That was more expensive? 117: And yes and hard to grow and then uh {X} he old {D: sauder man} make a quick growth and you know it made seeds you {X} {D: sedum} seeds it This other {X} stuff you had to put save so much {X} canes you know the canes that you'd grind up and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And the fall you'd have {D:bared} so much So very few folks fooled with the {X} cane. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Um {NS} wh- you said that uh talking about a uh you said a barrel for the syrup {X} it's called a small something like a barrel only it's smaller that uh uh that you uh that nails would come in? 117: Oh a barrel would hold hold thirty gallons. Interviewer: Okay something much smaller than a barrel though. #1 Bout this # 117: #2 That'd be # a keg. Interviewer: Okay. And you remember what you call those things that go around barrels to keep the staves in place? 117: They're hooks. Interviewer: Okay. And in a in a country store where molasses or lard might be displayed um uh in a they'd have it out on one of 117: They what? Interviewer: They'd have the molasses or lard out for on display. Would you have a special name for that uh form uh that it might be displayed on? 117: That you have it in barrels now. You could use stuff in tierces I did despise 'em. When I went to the store they had the lard come in a tierce which is just a bigger bigger barrel. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What'd you call that? 117: Tierce. T-I-E-R-C-E. Tierce. I reckon that's way you Interviewer: #1 pronounce it # 117: #2 Uh-huh. # {D:No looking books} Interviewer: #1 {D:No I see it} # 117: #2 called a tierce. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: We used to get lard in tierces. Interviewer: Uh and you didn't like that cause they were so 117: #1 Oh my # Interviewer: #2 heavy? # 117: god it's such a {X} you'd get greasy from here on down Interviewer: {NW} Uh. If you were pouring something from a large say sugar from a larger container into a smaller one and you met use 117: have a farmer yeah yeah yeah you had to have a farmer Interviewer: Alright. And something you use to might crack over a horse to make it move? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Crack this to make a horse move? 117: You mean a whip? Interviewer: Yeah. And if you were doing that you'd say you were doing what to the horse? You were 117: I didn't have any kind of horses that needed that. Interviewer: Alright if you went to the store and bought a dozen oranges the grocer might put them in a Buy a dozen oranges or apples. The grocer might put them into a 117: What a bag? Interviewer: Alright what is a bag usually made of? 117: What is a bag made of? Well there's a paper bag just like you have Interviewer: Alright. 117: present day Interviewer: Right now if you were gonna buy a hun- buy a hundred pounds of potatoes at a at a store 117: A hundred pounds of potatoes would be in a {X} sack. Interviewer: Okay. Um. The uh the amount of corn that could be milled at one time. What would you call that? You're gonna mill corn and the the amount that could be done at one time? Did you have a 117: You talking about a bushel? Interviewer: Well a bushel a bushel is fine or I was thinking of a bushel or if you use the term uh 117: #1 a # Interviewer: #2 uh # 117: toll if you Interviewer: A what? 117: Toll. Interviewer: A toll of of corn? #1 Or a turn? # 117: #2 {X} don't # quite get what you're Interviewer: Well like a turn of corn or a a 117: A turn {X} that's what you're talking #1 about # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: That's something we we just called 'em a bag but a {X} used to put them on for a {X} to the mill. Put 'em on the {X} and you hop up from behind it Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {X} # a mill. Interviewer: #1 That's # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Yeah 117: That's what he's talking about Interviewer: Oh 117: {X} Interviewer: Right okay fine. Now. Do you have a name for a for a partial load of wood or coal or something that you might have on a wagon? 117: A partial load? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: No I didn't have a name for Interviewer: Even just something like a half load or a jag or something 117: #1 No I # Interviewer: #2 like that. # 117: didn't get that. We didn't get that. Interviewer: Okay. And the amount that you could carry at one time in your arms talking about wood. Say I had a what of wood? 117: You talking about a ton? Interviewer: Well okay or an arm full or an arm load. Either of those familiar? 117: Well I can tell you {X} Interviewer: Using the term arm what would you say? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: You know using the term arm. 117: I think I would use uh that. I remember we had occasion to use that. Interviewer: Okay. Um. And when women uh on wash days they women take the clothes out of the wash house or or the basement or wherever they're doing the kitchen wherever they're doing the washing They carry it out to the yard in a 117: Now what you hunting? Interviewer: Well I was seeing if either a laundry basket or a clothes basket? 117: Well in {X} we called it clothes basket. Interviewer: Alright. And so th- different kinds of stoppers for bottles. You know you open up a bottle and you take a permanent cap off a bottle and then you put a temporary cap back in it if you don't use the whole uh amount {NS} 117: A bottle stopper what's Interviewer: Right. That's fine. What wood did they used to be made of? They almost all 117: They were cork. Interviewer: Alright. 117: And if you couldn't do no better could you could make a paper stopper if you lost the cork. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And what um How is that made do you mean just just tearing off a piece of paper and uh 117: Just keep {D:riding up and you} {D:keep pitting} and stop the uh stop the bottle yeah. Interviewer: I see. Now this is a musical in- little musical instrument that children use to blow on 117: Oh you talking about a {X} #1 I never # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 117: could blow one. Interviewer: Okay. And then a uh a the one that they used to hold between the teeth and {D:playing} 117: {X} I couldn't blow that either. Interviewer: Okay. And something you use to drive nails with? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Drive nails with. 117: A hammer? Interviewer: Sure. Now these are a couple of parts of a wagon. The part that went up between two horses? 117: That's a tongue Interviewer: Alright and then a buggy the parts that went up on the side? 117: {D:A shed} Interviewer: And the part on the ba- on the front of the wagon that they would pull on? {NS} You know those things that sometimes there was one all the way across 117: Oh you're talking about a doubletree? Interviewer: Alright. Double tree. now is a doubletree two pieces or one 117: Double tree {D:with,are} one piece with a {D:single} {X} added on to Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 the double # tree. Interviewer: And and the single trees were were separate 117: #1 They were # Interviewer: #2 uh # 117: rigged to the horse. A doubletree you were went uh across all the Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 in the # {D:tongue} It was balanced {D:about} that. Interviewer: Okay. 117: And so Interviewer: Alright. And the um the part of a wheel that the what do you call the the iron part of a wheel? 117: That's a tire Interviewer: All right what was that attached to? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: What was that attached to? 117: To a {X} Wait wait a minute #1 a rim # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: a rim rim. Interviewer: Alright. 117: Felloes. What was a felloes by the way? Interviewer: That's very good. The 117: #1 spokes # Interviewer: #2 fe- # 117: {X} Interviewer: Yeah no the felloe is the the spokes went into the felloe I think and then the the outer part uh uh of that of the {X} the rim the tire was on the rim. Or sometimes people called the rim and the tire the the 117: The rim was a was a {NS} Interviewer: The outer 117: The piece of wood that shapes the {X} and then you had holes where the spokes Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {D:went in} # Darned if I know what felloe was {X} Interviewer: I think the felloe was the is another name for that same thing that the spokes went into. 117: I think the felloe was a hole or something like that. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 117: #2 {X} Okay. # I'm not too good about that I mean Interviewer: Alright. Um. And if you were moving wood from one place to another all day long you might say we were doing what? We've been been moving wood back and forth you know all day long. Would you you wouldn't say we've been moving wood Would you say we've been um 117: Got no word for that. Interviewer: {X} like hauling? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Hauling 117: #1 Oh yeah yeah # Interviewer: #2 wood? # 117: yeah {X} Yeah that's right we was hauling wood Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: And if you had if you were ge- if you were uh clearing a field. Clearing the field. You'd say they had to do what to the stumps? They had to after they loosened them they would have to t- to get them away they would have to stumps you know tree trunks that they dig out of the ground. And they dig 'em out of the ground and then they might uh if you had a great big tree trunk you might have to attach it to a mule and then the mule would what it off the field? 117: Well you see they didn't do much {X} in my days {D:You didn't even} Interviewer: Didn't bother #1 {D:with it} # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Huh. # 117: #2 We didn't do that. # Interviewer: #1 Huh. # 117: #2 And I # know they had {X} We used to Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: take those stumps out {X} But they didn't #1 And I never # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 117: pulled them out. Interviewer: I see. Well what I was getting at is the word drag. 117: What? Interviewer: Drag. 117: Drag. Interviewer: Yeah. And so today you say today they drag it out of the field yesterday they they did what with the same using the same word? Today they drag it 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 yesterday # 117: they pulled it. Interviewer: Uh can you use drag. Use a form of drag. Yeah today they drag it yesterday they 117: Drug it is that Interviewer: #1 Sure. Okay. Alright # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And then uh they have the stumps uh out of these fields for years and they still aren't finished. You would say they they have 117: {D:You'd get me} Interviewer: #1 So I'm getting {X} # 117: #2 {X} # You'd Interviewer: #1 No. # 117: #2 get me # on the third grade Interviewer: #1 No no no no # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: I was just getting at hear you say they have dragged it or they have drug it That's all I 117: #1 I'd # Interviewer: #2 wanted # 117: say they drug it. Interviewer: Okay. 117: I drug it. Interviewer: Okay and they have drug it you'd say. 117: Yeah Interviewer: #1 And that's # 117: #2 well # I've realized whatever the results of it I'd say they already {X} say they already drug it. Interviewer: Alright. Um now the inst- the implement that's used for turning soil 117: What you talking about a plow? Interviewer: Now would you name some different kinds of plows for me? 117: Well you you had a mouldboard plow. You had a {X} plow. But you had a mouldboard plow that would would {X} Interviewer: Alright how is that sp- how do you spell that? 117: Mouldboard? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: M-O-U-L-D-B-O-A-R-D. Interviewer: A moul- a mouldboard huh. I see. And and that was kind of a an all-purpose plow? 117: It's an all-purpose plow it's the kind that you had it that That's what the dirt was {D:flying} up on. #1 And then # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: {D:which you} {X} {X} soil with the plow. Interviewer: I see. And then were there any di- what could you name some different kinds of plows that 117: Well you had a plow that was just a straight down the Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: arm {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: so go ahead and go Interviewer: That have any special name? 117: Mm-mm no I don't think so I don't know what it Oh yes it had various names but I wouldn't get it I {X} Interviewer: I see well I was just wondering if you how the term a for instance the scooter plow? Do ya know 117: Oh a scooter bulldoze {D:this thing} a scooter bulldoze {D:on this} this plow from back going down under there #1 The # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: the part of the plow would be a scooter yeah. Interviewer: Uh the scooter then is a part of the plow rather than the #1 plow itself. # 117: #2 The scooter # would be the part of the plow yeah that's type of plow. Interviewer: I see. And um something after you uh after you plow that you might uh uh use to break up the the pieces of dirt and 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 uh # 117: talking about a harrow? Interviewer: Okay right. 117: You got various types of harrows Interviewer: #1 What # 117: #2 you got # Interviewer: what kinds were there {X} 117: Well you had a disc harrow then you had a a {D:proof} harrow {X} harrow Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: So I {X} that wood. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And then you had spring teeth. I had two I had two harrows out there when I first Interviewer: I see. The spring tooth is the one that kinda comes around like that. 117: It's like it is it's made with springs {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And uh the pegs is just straight down and Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: and there's two different types of them #1 harrows. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # Uh. Something if you were gonna saw wood gonna saw wood do you put it up on this thing 117: Talking about a sawbuck? Interviewer: Alright. Now does a sawbuck have an "x" frame or an "a" frame? Is it like this 117: #1 An "x" frame # Interviewer: #2 or # Alright an "x" frame is a sawbuck. What did you call the one that has an "a" frame? 117: I wouldn't know him. Interviewer: Um. The um that um It's almost like a piece of carpenter's equipment. 117: #1 I wouldn't know it. # Interviewer: #2 Have you ever used the term # sawhorse? 117: Who? Interviewer: Sawhorse. 117: Oh a sawhorse Yeah yeah I know what you're talking about now but He's different from You take have to have about two of them. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: To balance your thing a a a book's all they made like that and Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 There's no # {D:proper way} to balance it. {X} Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 {X} # who you're talking about going to saw a number with your with your sawhorse he's a made like that. Interviewer: The "a" frame right? {NW} Okay. And you might use a comb on your hair or you might use a 117: brush? Interviewer: Alright and instead of firing uh you you fire shells in a shotgun uh in a rifle you fire a not a sh- you don't call that a shell in a rifle you call it a 117: Cartridge? Interviewer: Yeah. And this is something that children play on one sits on either end and it goes up and down like that 117: What a seesaw? Interviewer: Sure. And when kids are doing this what do you say they're doing? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: When children are doing this You s- what do you say they're doing? 117: Seesawing. Interviewer: Okay and were there any other uh uh homemade uh uh playthings like this that you're fa- you remember? 117: Yeah yeah yeah was a big old oak {D:raven} hung up on the end of the tree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And uh you'd get in there and you'd stand up and pump. Interviewer: I see. 117: And the log it was {X} somebody would run over here and you {NS} if he rewind his {X} to a swinging oak Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: and in that's the way he let the cat die that's when {X} Interviewer: Oh you 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 call that # 117: motion. Interviewer: Call that letting the cat die #1 huh # 117: #2 letting the cat die # Interviewer: #1 I see # 117: #2 the swing # {X} Interviewer: I #1 see # 117: #2 {X} swinging # Interviewer: Uh-huh. And do you remember uh a um uh a homemade merry-go-round? 117: Yeah yeah yeah yeah I remember {D:those} Interviewer: Remember what that was called? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Did that have any special name 117: It might have but I my neighbors had one I didn't have one of #1 those things # Interviewer: #2 I see. # A- um the uh I was thinking of the term flying jenny? If that was a flying jenny. 117: I guess that's what Interviewer: Or or a uh uh a board a uh a limber board long limber board that kids would sit on it was attached to either end. #1 Sometimes # 117: #2 {X} # That thing had a a post in the ground with a iron pillar up here. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 And an # old board that and and it was I was too little to {X} They get around and they run around and then you liable to fall off. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 I was too # little to be permitted to ride on #1 flying # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: jennies. Interviewer: I see that was a flying jenny though #1 I see. # 117: #2 That's a flying # Interviewer: #1 Was it was # 117: #2 jenny. # Interviewer: I see. Okay. Uh if you have a uh um a coal stove 117: A what? Interviewer: A coal stove in the house. A coal stove. 117: We didn't use coal we had a wooden stove. Interviewer: Okay. 117: #1 We had # Interviewer: #2 But # 117: fireplaces. Interviewer: Alright. If uh the d- do you know what you'd call a small container for coal? That you'd keep near a um near 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 a # Sure. And if you're and when you clean out the uh you we're talking {D:the whole} about cleaning the cleaning soot out. Would say you clean the soot out of the what? 117: Chimney? Interviewer: Yeah or this is something on the stove. 117: A stove pipe? Interviewer: Sure. 117: #1 Yes # Interviewer: #2 And # this has one wheel and two handles and you use it to 117: Wheelbarrow. #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 A-alright # And now these are several different kinds of things for sharpening uh uh implements. 117: A grindstone is what I Interviewer: Alright. That's the 117: #1 And then # Interviewer: #2 one # 117: I had a little uh ember wheel from a mowing machine. Interviewer: Uh-huh. How about something that a a a kind of rock or stone that you might hold in your hand? 117: A stone? Interviewer: A s- yeah would you call that anything special or just a stone? That you might use for sharpening say a scythe or uh an ax. 117: Oh well all I know is a grindstone you had it And I had plenty of grind- #1 -stones # Interviewer: #2 I see # 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 I was thinking of some- # either a a a whetstone or 117: Oh yes a a whetstone I didn't Interviewer: didn't use that though huh. The emery the emery wheel though that was a uh that was a uh smaller grindstone. 117: That's right it Interviewer: {NS} 117: That emery wheel was thing who you your mowing machine you it it fits your mowing machine blades {X} Interviewer: Alright. And um uh talked about before about a uh these uh the well the I I drove up here in a what? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: I drove up here I drove down from Atlanta in a what? 117: In an automobile. Interviewer: Alright or more 117: motor vehicle {D:what} Interviewer: Oh just uh a simpler word a shorter word than 117: Car? Interviewer: Sure. Uh. But you usually use the term automobile when you're 117: Yeah I I I would say automobile I didn't Interviewer: Okay. Um. The um when you take a car into a a gas station uh you might have 'em check the water and 117: oil? Interviewer: Right. Now before they had electricity people used to to burn what in their lamps? 117: We'd burn kerosene. Interviewer: Alright you ever called it anything else? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Did you ever call it anything else? 117: No I I really think kerosene. We said kerosene. Interviewer: Alright. And and uh uh if you built a boat little boat ya know and you took it down to the water you were gonna put it into the water for the first time you say we're going to do what the boat? 117: Launch it? Interviewer: Okay. And um is there any difference you name some different kinds of um of um of boats? That were um uh uh found around here that kind of boats were used in rivers and streams #1 around here? # 117: #2 Only thing # I know was was just an ordinary bateau. And uh a ferryboat only thing that I Interviewer: #1 know of. # 117: #2 Alright. # Interviewer: Now {NW} was a bateau a homemade boat? 117: That's right it a homemade boat. Interviewer: What what were they what did they look like? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What did they look like? 117: Well they were long and narrow fellas that uh could hold about four people. They were they were Interviewer: I see. {NW} Two could two people sit side by side in one of these? 117: In some instances in that middle thing that they'll {D:they'll run} at the back that you could steer. We used to #1 {D:drive} the boat # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: and you'd stand on sit up there and you'd pull your oars you know Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: to go up and down the river #1 {D:with} # Interviewer: #2 Alright # I was thinking of the term rowboat 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 but that is # 117: rowboat. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: Well I guess a bateau and a rowboat would be the same thing. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Um a little child is um looking for a an article of clothing. Now a little child running around the house uh looking for a we'll say several articles of clothing. Um the mother might call to the child and say here- having found the ya know the clothes. The mother would say here- Getting at would you say here's your clothes or here are your clothes. 117: You you your you're losing me because uh I was the youngest child #1 of three # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: and I don't know who {X} Interviewer: Okay. Well it doesn't have to be uh it it doesn't have to have it doesn't necessarily concern raising chil- It's just whether you would say if you're talking about something like 117: Here's here's here they are Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 Is that # what you're talking Interviewer: #1 Right. # 117: #2 bout? # I say here they are. {X} I say here is this Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 thing. # Interviewer: Alright when you're talking about about people um talking about people uh thinking something. Uh would you say there are many people who think so or there is many people who think so? 117: Well I say many people think so. Interviewer: Okay. So avoid 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 {X} # And the- and then you'd get around to questioning the uh yo- then then you wouldn't be uh uh confronted with the problem I mean that would get you around the um decision to say there is many or there are many that's what I was getting at. Um if um you're petting a dog. You're petting a dog and uh he shies away from you. You might say to the dog That's alright- going to hurt you. I- going to hurt you. You want to reassure him. You want to reassure the dog. 117: If I were to talk to him I'd say I ain't gonna hurt you. Interviewer: Okay. Uh now Alright that's interesting now you you'd talk that way to the dog Uh why do you suppose you'd talk that way to the dog? 117: Why did I do that? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: #1 To # Interviewer: #2 Wh- # 117: reassure him. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 That's what's happening. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. But um um Are there any uh uh any other uh situations in which you'd use ain't {X} Or would you limit that to the talking to dogs? 117: Ain't {X} Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Buddy I'm I'm a {C: laughing} I I can {C:laughing} {X} many many instances. Interviewer: Okay. Under what circum- I mean 117: I ain't go out to get this interview. Interviewer: Okay. Alright fine. Alright but is that really uh um That I mean that's a um uh a uh a a usual a regular normal expression in your in your speech? 117: Could be. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But is it do you do you kind- do you use it for any for any purpose or uh that's exactly what I'm getting at you see. 117: {X} use that {X} Interviewer: Okay. 117: Oh {X} {D:try to} be more sophisticated. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Um. If you were talking to a close friend of yours now and they're passing food around and they they seem to have skipped you you know they seem to have passed you by with the a bowl of potatoes or something and you might w- you and you want them the- they've uh they've passed the bowl of potatoes around 117: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 you know # the table and they haven't uh they've gone right by you. And you might ask you want to know if you're going to get some. What might you say? 117: What would I say to them? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: I'd say I'd like to have some of those potatoes please. Interviewer: Sure. But then you might ask the question Um Ain't I going to get some? Or um 117: I wouldn't ain't {NW} I wouldn't ain't at the table Interviewer: Uh-huh you wouldn't ain't at the #1 table huh. # 117: #2 I wouldn't ain't at the # Interviewer: Okay that's good. Alright you wouldn't ain't at the table there you that's that's uh uh um {NW} So you associate that that form with a with a special kind of a situation? Being at the at the uh uh You don't use ain't at the table is that 117: {NW} Interviewer: Yeah? 117: If I was emphatic then I'd say I ain't {D:while I do it} now there there there's a {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: I I Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 I # {D:want to, going to} put {X} possibility Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 you're in # but I don't think I'd ain't at the table. I wouldn't ain't it ain't I gone get none I wouldn't do that. Interviewer: Okay fine that's w- that's that's very good that's uh um um 117: Personally I believe I'd do a {X} I do. Interviewer: Eh 117: If I do a {X} I think I'd just do an {X} Interviewer: I see alright. Um if you're not sure you're right about something. You might ask someone I'm right- You you know you're asking uh a question of someone you you're trying to find out if you're right about 117: #1 Well I would ask # Interviewer: #2 something. # 117: you Am I right or wrong? Interviewer: Uh-huh Or 117: #1 is it # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 117: {X} Interviewer: Right. But now let's turn it around. 117: Alright. Interviewer: And put it this way. And you'd begin this sentence this way. I'm right- and then what would you say after that? I'm right- 117: I'd say that I'm {X} Interviewer: #1 No. {X} # 117: #2 I'm right. # Interviewer: I'm right- You'd say would you be inclined to say I'm right- 117: Sure? Interviewer: That's the idea I'm right but you're not sure you see you say I'm right- am I not I'm right ain't I I'm right aren't I. I'm right aren't I I'm right ain't I I'm right am I not which of 117: Oh yeah that that's when I'd say ain't I right. Interviewer: Ain't I 117: #1 Ain't I right? # Interviewer: #2 right? I'm right # ain't I? Okay that's what I 117: Well that's the way I'd use it yes. Interviewer: Okay. Um someone asks you about breaking a window a window having been broken you know and someone says did you break that window? And you'd say no it- to let 'em know that you didn't do it. Say did you break that window? And you'd say no it- wa- 117: It wasn't. I don't know. Interviewer: #1 That's exactly right. {X} # 117: #2 {X} # broken Interviewer: #1 No. # 117: #2 window # Interviewer: No I was getting at would you say it wasn't me or it wasn't I {NW} Which of those sounds more more natural to you? 117: I don't think I'd qualify it if I didn't break it. Interviewer: Alright. Okay you wouldn't even #1 uh # 117: #2 I # wouldn't think I'd really need to qualify. Interviewer: Alright. Um if you wanted eh to um um you were gonna you were thinking about buying some cloth for some purpose or uh uh something uh and you might go to the store and get a small piece to bring home uh to examine. 117: Alright so I got a little {X} Interviewer: Y- okay right. 117: A sample. #1 Yes yep. # Interviewer: #2 Okay # that's exactly right. If um uh A woman has on a dress that's very attractive you might say that's a very what dress she has on today? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Um or we talked about a little girl you say that's an awfully what little girl that's a 117: I'd say that's a mighty pretty dress. Interviewer: Okay very fine. Now if going from there to to one that's even more so say this dress is pretty but this dress 117: #1 This # Interviewer: #2 is e- # 117: over here is more beautiful. Interviewer: Okay but use the word pretty. 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Use the word pretty. 117: It's prettier. #1 I put # Interviewer: #2 Okay # 117: #1 E-R I # Interviewer: #2 That's what. Alright # 117: It's a prettier dress. Interviewer: Alright and then the one that the uh that's that's even prettier than that it's 117: It's the prettiest, yes. Interviewer: Okay. 117: Alright. Interviewer: Alright and something a woman might wear over her dress when she's uh doing the cooking? 117: Talking about an apron? Interviewer: Right and um the uh a man goes out on a cold day he might put on a 117: A jacket? Interviewer: Alright or something a little longer than the jacket. 117: Overcoat? Interviewer: Alright and something he might wear between his shirt and his coat? 117: A vest. Interviewer: Alright and these are what? 117: I think them are britches. Interviewer: Okay. Do y- you call them all is there 117: Ah they're they're still britches to me they ain't flax they're still old britches. Interviewer: Okay. Okay fine. Now um um Say it's uh um It looks like a storm is is 117: #1 brewing? # Interviewer: #2 uh # Okay and you'd say um if that were happening what would you say about a storm you'd say the storm a storm is doing what? so it what was how would you describe this in terms of the weather? You'd say what would you say is happening to the weather? 117: About a severe storm? Interviewer: Yeah before or or first what would you what would you call a severe storm? What would you call a storm that uh uh uh that had thunder and lightning? 117: Well you'd call it a thunderstorm don't I know Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 or a # {X} storm whichever Interviewer: Okay now uh do y- you don't have any any special names for a heavy rain of short duration though? 117: Heavy rains? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Well it seem liked it was I don't think I get it. Interviewer: I was thinking something like a toad strangler or a gully washer or a trash mover 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 or some- {X} # Uh or something something else uh along that line. Um Well if you're talking about the th- the um the weather it you'd say it's um th- the weather's been uh pleasant you know or and and then suddenly it changes for the worse you'd say the weather is doing what? 117: Moderating? What you talking about? Interviewer: Alright moderating would be when it's getting better wouldn't it? To say the weather's moderating that means the weather 117: You wanted when it's {X} {D:going the other way?} Interviewer: Right. 117: Mm-mm I don't know {X} Interviewer: Well I was wondering if you'd use something like uh uh changing or turning Don't have a can't think of a word for that. The weather's 117: #1 it's # Interviewer: #2 changing # 117: bustling there I say Interviewer: #1 Okay. Oh. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay fine. Now if uh if the weather was really threatening really getting bad and you wanted to you'd say we're gonna have to what the the cattle in we're gonna have to- The cattle's out there and if they 117: Herd up the cattle? Interviewer: Yeah and we have to go out and what them in? 117: Well we didn't {X} time going get the cattle up when it's gonna suddenly storm yeah but I don't know what you so want me to say Interviewer: Well I was talking about if you if you um uh uh if you go get something and and and get something in one place you'd say I I went there and I got it and then I what it home? Talk about the word bring. 117: Bring? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Yeah I'd bringing in the sheet Interviewer: #1 Okay # 117: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: bringing in the sheet. Today I today I bring in the sheet yesterday I 117: brought in the Interviewer: #1 Right # 117: #2 sheet. # Interviewer: and many times I have- the sheet. Many times I have- 117: Brought in? Interviewer: Okay fine. Now uh say I tried on a coat the other day and it- what just fine it 117: Said what? Interviewer: Yo- I I went into the store and I tried on a a jacket and it- what just fine? 117: It didn't fit. Interviewer: Okay but say it did. #1 You say # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: You'd say it did though. You'd say that- just fine. 117: Well yeah well it fits. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: {D:It fit me so} it was a good fit. Interviewer: Okay it's oh so but you'd you'd probably say it fits it fit fine rather than it fitted huh? It fit fine. 117: I guess so. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you went and got a um uh uh {NW} say um a a a a new coat a coat and and pants and that match you call that a 117: What you talking about a suit? Interviewer: Alright and it wasn't an old one you just bought it it's a it wasn't old you just bought it it's what kind of a suit? 117: {X} suit? Interviewer: Not an old suit. 117: A zoot suit? Interviewer: Sure and If your pockets are all filled up with things and they they uh you know you'd say your pockets do what? Do you ever use the term bulge {C:pronunciation} or bulge? 117: Bulge? Interviewer: Sure. 117: Oh my britches are always baggy buddy. Interviewer: Okay. {C:laughing} 117: Ah my britches always baggy. Interviewer: Okay {C:laughing} alright. Now if um um You'd say I I hope that cheap shirt won't do what when I wash it? I hope it won't- 117: Draw. Interviewer: Okay that's fine though is there another word that you might use instead of draw up? Something we were talking about something getting smaller? 117: I don't know. Those cheap shirts {X} Interviewer: Yeah. They 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 draw # no draw up I'm talking about this i- 117: and cut the garments with. Interviewer: Uh-huh. No I've never uh never seen that's called a {D:whack} board then huh? Um now what were you saying about your what your mother used to do when she wa- when she'd make you a shirt? 117: She would shrink the cloth before she cut 'em. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 Before # she cut the garment. Interviewer: Okay. 117: Careful that {X} didn't have that draw up that shrinkage that you was talking about. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Now so today you might {C:distortion} say today uh she shrinks the cloth. Yesterday she 117: Shrunk it. Interviewer: Okay. And um she has- the cloth. She has- 117: Well now if you want she has already shrunk the cloth Interviewer: #1 Right. # 117: #2 {D:already} # cut it. Interviewer: #1 That's ex- # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: That's just fine okay. Now if a woman likes to put on good clothes you might say she likes to do what? She likes to 117: Oh well I wouldn't I I wouldn't know what {X} When you gonna ask me about women I'm lost. Interviewer: Okay well {X} Just the idea of putting on fancy clothes uh putting on her Sunday clothes for example you'd say she she really likes to- 117: She likes to be well-dressed is what Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 I'd say # about Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 it. # Interviewer: Well I was thinking of something like dress up. 117: Well oh I dress up {X} She loves to dress up yeah that that's right uh Old miss Carol up here loves to dress up. Interviewer: Okay that's the idea. Now {X} the idea of uh now dress up is one but the idea of th- there's a term either primp up or prink up mean anything different to you? 117: Dress up and primp up? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Well I believe dress up {X} would encompass all those other things if I Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: I wouldn't think she'd be dressed up unless she primped. Interviewer: Okay. Now what does primping include? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What does primping 117: Oh that that's what to do with the with the face and dress up's the garments. Interviewer: Okay that's ri- that's fine. Now. Something that a um um a that a woman might carry uh in her hand 117: What you talking about a handbag? Interviewer: Alright. Now another name for a handbag? 117: Oh buddy it used to be a reticule where I Interviewer: #1 Is that right? # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: They used to call it that huh? 117: It was a reticule yeah. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay. What was a reticule like? 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 Was it just # a 117: #1 {D:It it was a} # Interviewer: #2 um # 117: it's like these present day handbags look up the {X} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 {X} # That's {X} for you. Interviewer: Alright that's fine. Now eh um but you you wouldn't make any it's it's um a something that a How about something that a man might carry change in his pocket? 117: You talking about a purse? Interviewer: Okay. And something that a woman might wear around her neck um w- made of beads? 117: Made of beads. A necklace? Interviewer: Alright. Now if you were a- a necklace is one word but it if you were talking about about beads um either a would you use the term either a uh a a string of beads or a pair of beads? 117: I'd use in a string. Interviewer: String okay. Um 117: What'd you say {X} Interviewer: The other's a pair of beads. 117: Ah I wouldn't know that #1 I never met # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 117: that word. Interviewer: #1 Oh # 117: #2 I # said a string of of beads. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Alright and um something that you open up on a rainy day and you 117: Umbrella. Interviewer: Alright. And uh 117: The ladies open a parasol. Interviewer: Okay. Now was a parasol shaped differently from an umbrella or 117: No it's just a primitive word. It's another umbrella. Interviewer: Of the same thing okay. Uh so I mean if you had one of those big black things it could be A man might call it an umbrella and a woman might call it a parasol although it's the same thing. Is that 117: I never #1 had looked up # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: the difference but Interviewer: No but I mean that's in your mind that's all I'm concerned with I'm not interested in the dictionary. Um but yes the dictionary is made up of generalizations of what people like you say you see there's nothing um the uh um. That's the onl- that's the only authority they have is uh what uh um the way the word is used. Um what do you call something you might put over a bed after you've when you've made up a bed something uh 117: You talking about the {D:last} {D:last thing}? Interviewer: That's right. 117: That's a {D: counting pin} Interviewer: Okay. Now eh when you're in bed you rest your head on a what? 117: Well a pillow. Interviewer: Alright. And do you remember a large pillow kind of round 117: Bolster? Interviewer: Alright. And that wouldn't go part way across the bed that would go 117: Is it entirely cross Interviewer: Alright. You might say entire length or you might say it goes what the bed? Would you ya 117: #1 It # Interviewer: #2 say # 117: goes all the way across the bed. Interviewer: Okay. And do you remember a a kind of washable blanket that women used to make? 117: A washable blanket? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Hmm. Interviewer: They used to get together and make these. Kind of a social event. 117: Don't know that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Some of 'em were tied. Some of 'em were sewn. Some of 'em were tied. They were stuffed and kinda thick. 117: Don't know I don't know nothing about. Interviewer: Made of patches of cloth. I was thinking of a quilt. You don't know the term quilt. 117: You say wilt? Interviewer: Quilt. 117: No I've not ever heard of that. Interviewer: Never heard of a quilt. 117: Mm-mm. Interviewer: Okay. Uh what do you call a bed made up flat on the floor? 117: I don't know a pallet? #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Mm-hmm. 117: Raised on pallets. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you used to sleep on a pallet when you were little? 117: Yeah I slept on a pallet many a time. Interviewer: Alright. Now then here we'll come back to a couple of farm terms. Some different kinds of of land that you can grow crops on. Um what would you call the best land on a on a farm? Say low-lying land. 117: What? Interviewer: Land down 117: You talking low-lying? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: That's bottoms. Interviewer: Okay. And then uh what would you call the other land? That isn't the bottom land? {NS} 117: We didn't make any designation except the bottoms was where you Your grass runs through that. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: That's where you made your corn. Interviewer: Oh I see. You'd raise corn in them. Do y- do you raise cotton in the bottoms or 117: {X} cotton Cotton didn't adapt itself to the bottoms. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 {X} # It was corn lands and then Interviewer: {D:Fine} 117: {D:Oak, oat} lands. Interviewer: Where did you plant the uh where did you plant the cotton? 117: The cotton was on the uplands. Yeah that Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 that's # Uh I guess that's why this Piedmont used to be the the real area of cotton-producing area of the of the South. Interviewer: Because there was so much upland you mean? #1 So much # 117: #2 It is # an upland crop. It is not it don't Not a lowland crop. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: {D:Course, folks} they they're irrigating it now out in the west Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: the cotton belt has moved completely. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {NW} Uh do you have any terms for swampy land? 117: Huh? Interviewer: For swampy land. 117: Swampland. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Nothing but swamps Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And now some different kinds of soil. Some just names for different kinds of soil designations for different kinds of soil that you might have made on a farm wa- um on your farm. What would you call the best soil? 117: We didn't really have those #1 designations. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Uh did you ever di- what would you call the soil that you couldn't {D:use} where the top soil had been been washed away? Did you have any places like that? Where the top soil had been washed completely away? 117: {X} we called it wasteland {X} Interviewer: Okay. Uh does the term loam mean anything #1 to you # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: Loam. Loam? Oh yeah yeah that's 117: #1 that's # Interviewer: #2 What's that? # 117: Loam is a is your best type of soil yeah. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And if you were trying to get the if it ha- it had a lot of rain or if um a branch had uh had overflown you might um um eh you might {X} get the water off the land you'd say you're gonna have to do what to that field? 117: What I have to drain it? Interviewer: Alright and how would you do that? 117: Oh in our days we {D: digged in open} ditches. Interviewer: Alright. Um eh how would you do that? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: How would you do that? 117: How'd we do make do that #1 ditches? # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 117: You get your spade and go down there and then go to digging and throwing out the dirt to drain the water off. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And then it would eh you'd just you'd cut a cut a channel and then {NW} and then uh and then the wa- and then the water would run off is that the idea? 117: Well you see {X} Your loose spot's over there Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: in that corner and yo-your {D:brook} stream is running like that {X} and then you get the lowest place and come in through here and you drain that. You take about a two foot ditch. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: Oh that that's the the minimum is a two foot Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 ditch # And uh you drain that water out and it cuts it out as it comes from {NW} up here why it makes the drop into here and drains the water out from up there. Interviewer: I see. Um now what um uh what uh rivers or streams or branches are there around here? 117: The rivers and streams? Well you know you got the Chattahoochee over here. Interviewer: {NW} 117: And {D:in my area} Interviewer: How far is the Chattahoochee from here? 117: Chattahoochee from here is about uh it's a which way you go if you go up to {X} wouldn't be twelve fifteen miles. Interviewer: North. 117: The Chattahoochee runs through the west part of the county. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {X} Interviewer: It runs through Coweta County. 117: Mm-hmm. {NS} Let's see if I can show you I'll have a map #1 here should # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 117: Well this this {X} {NS} And I wanna tell you about the {NS} Now your Chattahoochee don't you see him that Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {X} # County? Interviewer: Right. Uh-huh. Okay. Now are there any other uh any other rivers or streams around {NS} 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 in the # 117: yes you've got on the west um out there on my farm on the {D: crop and grain} of that land is stuck the head waters of of uh New River which runs into the Chattahoochee down here in uh Troup County. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And uh you've got uh {NS} you've got {D:Wall Hoop} Creek that uh goes in the Chattahoochee. You've got uh {D:Fido} Creek I presume goes into the Flint River. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: The drainage just It splits 'em through this area east goes to the Flint River and the west goes to uh Chattahoochee. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But you you you say the river that has its head waters on your on your farm is the 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 uh # That's that's the New River? 117: There's a there's a spring up there and {D:it,in} in that plot and grant when they surveyed this #1 area # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: they put head waters of the New River and that's on the old plot and grant Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 when it's issued in # eighteen so-and-so when Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: when uh the land was given out to Interviewer: I see. And something um um um uh something smaller what do you call something smaller than a creek? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Something smaller than a creek. 117: Smaller than a creek I calls them a branch. Interviewer: Okay. Um. And what would you call a channel cut um by a stream or by a {D:rain,ring} through a field? 117: A gully you're talking about? Interviewer: Oh right. Um. And then what would you {D:Um I guess I'm} coming back to the soil I was talking about before. You were talking about a wasteland. But uh uh any basic eh basic terms for soil that has been affected by ya know erosion? {NS} 117: Well there's just nothing but {X} Interviewer: I see. Did you ever did you ever hear that called uh um uh natural natural ground? 117: Never heard that. Interviewer: Never heard that. Alright. Some what do you call something higher than a hill? 117: A mountain. Interviewer: Alright. And a uh a road through a mountain uh or a pass through a mountain what would that be called? 117: Would it be called a trail? Interviewer: Okay. And then uh if you were up on a a if you you were up on a mountain and you walked out on a a ledge that extended out off a mountain. Know what that would be called? 117: A ledge? I'd avoid 'em. I wouldn't know nothing about that. Interviewer: Okay I was thinking of something a cliff. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Cliff. 117: Cliff. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And then uh uh the plural of that would be what? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: One cliff two what? A cliff. 117: Uh I I don't know don't know those terms. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {X} cliff alright. Now if a water's running along a river's running along and suddenly it falls off suddenly what do you call that? 117: A call it a fall. Interviewer: Alright 117: #1 Or shoals. # Interviewer: #2 and are there # Alright. Shoals or fall what's the difference between a shoals and a fall? 117: Well a shoals can be you can you can have a shoals which is small {X} while a fall is generally a a much more much larger di- dimensions you might Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 say and # a fall I wouldn't think I wouldn't call anything less than five six feet a f-fall. Interviewer: Alright {X} 117: And and shoals you just got the rocky The more I know {D:these shoals} {X} Interviewer: I see. Um. Now some different kinds of roads. Ya know in in a in in town and in the country. {NW} Uh that cars travel on. 117: Some different kinds of roads. Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} 117: I wouldn't know how to {X} Interviewer: Some of 'em well some of 'em are paved and some of 'em are not paved. And I just wondered if you made any 117: #1 You want a # Interviewer: #2 distinction. # 117: dirt road? Interviewer: Alright and now how about the different kinds of paved roads? 117: Well now I I wouldn't know how to classify those things it Our pavement first was was concrete and now they use different types. I wouldn't of A paved road is a paved road to me and a dirt road's a dirt road. Interviewer: Okay. And that's the only distinction made. Well I wonder if you use anything like a a a cement road or a tar road or a blacktop road or 117: Well that's what they used alright those terms the cement was the original Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: paving that we had. Interviewer: Alright. And if um uh is there a special term for a neighborhood road out in the country? 117: A neighborhood road. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: Settlement road I don't know what to #1 call those. # Interviewer: #2 That's fine. # That's fine. Uh how about a uh uh a place where uh you um you might drive up to the house off the main road? It's a little road that uh that that leads up to the house from the main road. Say the mailbox is down there on the main road and then But you might drive your car up to get to the house you might drive up a 117: #1 I wouldn't know. I # Interviewer: #2 uh a smaller road. # 117: wouldn't know what to call him. Interviewer: Well I was thinking either a lane or a driveway. 117: Well a driveway's what I would've thought of but I Interviewer: Sure that's fine. And then something um um um uh something you might walk on through the through on a farm through the #1 field. # 117: #2 Path? # Interviewer: Okay and the plural of that is what? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: One path two? 117: Two paths. P-A-T-H-S. #1 Paths # Interviewer: #2 Okay # right. That's right. 117: {D:Now that's that's the way I used to} Interviewer: That's e- 117: That's that's the way I show up {X} plurals. Interviewer: That's right okay that's fine. Um. So uh you take something in your hand and you go like this you say you're- do what he 117: What what you want me to throw it or cast it? Interviewer: Well {X} the first one. 117: #1 You # Interviewer: #2 Um # 117: want me to throw it. Interviewer: Alright and today I throw it yesterday I 117: Threw. Interviewer: And many times I have 117: Thrown. Interviewer: Okay. And what is something you might pick up in a field and throw? 117: Well I picked up a rock. Interviewer: Alright. Now is there any special size that eh Can a rock be of any particular size? 117: In in my opinion it can be anything from a pebble up to a big rock. Interviewer: Okay. Um and in the expression There's the expression there's no place like 117: Home? Interviewer: Alright. And if you rang a friend's doorbell and no one answered you might say I guess nobody 117: Nobody {X} Nobody's at home Interviewer: Okay. And if you were um you were going uh into town with uh and you {D:wind up} talking to a friend. And you might say will you come what me will you come 117: And go with me into town? Interviewer: Right. And um {X} so uh did he come uh did he eh Then someone asks you Did he did he go with you? And you say uh you say no I came into town not 117: #1 Alone? # Interviewer: #2 with him # Yeah but use this the idea of with him di- did he Did you come into town with him and you say no I came into town not with him but 117: Before or after him is that what Interviewer: No he wasn't with you so you'd say Did he come into town with him 117: #1 Alone? # Interviewer: #2 and you'd say # Yeah that's the idea exactly. I came into town not with him I came into town- 117: I don't get what you're Interviewer: So well uh {X} I'm getting at is the 117: {X} Interviewer: Not with but Not with him 117: Without him? Interviewer: Sure. 117: Alright. Interviewer: That's that's all. Um. And was he walking toward or was he walking away from you? You'd say no he wasn't walking away from me he was walking 117: Toward me. Interviewer: Sure and you gave your son the name of an uncle let's say. You might say we named him 117: For him. Interviewer: Right. And a 117: You want me to say after #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Ei- # No I want you to no No I want you to I want you to say what's um uh ya know what's the uh what's what's comfortable um uh for you. Um A four-legged animal that barks is what? 117: What you talking about a quadruped? Interviewer: Uh-huh right. Yeah. One a barking animal. Might have for a pet. 117: A dog? Interviewer: Alright. Now i- how a call to a dog to attack another dog? 117: What's that? Interviewer: What would you might say to a dog to attack another dog? You want him to go after another dog. 117: And fight him? Interviewer: Yeah. What might you say to the dog? 117: Sic 'em on him? Interviewer: Sure. And then if you want a dog to come to you what might you say? 117: Come here I reckon. Interviewer: Sure. And {NW} what would you say to a dog to stop attacking someone? 117: It wouldn't be {X} {D:unprintable} what I'd say. Interviewer: Is that right? You won't say it for me huh? 117: Huh? Interviewer: You what {NW} Give me an idea. 117: Now when you get dogs I'm not much of a dog man. Interviewer: Okay. Um Do you have a term for a dog of mixed or unknown breed? 117: Mongrel yeah. Interviewer: Okay. And um um. Sometimes they have to to keep a dog uh tied up because the dog might what somebody? 117: Might bite 'em? Interviewer: Sure. And uh you'd say that does that dog bite? And you'd say oh yes he he what someone yesterday? He- 117: He bit him. Interviewer: Right. And he has- several people in the 117: #1 {D:has} # Interviewer: #2 last # 117: bitten through the lot of people Interviewer: #1 Right # 117: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: Alright. And we were talking before about uh the milk-giving animal. The principal milk-giving animal. 117: Mammals {D:you talking about} Interviewer: Yeah they uh but what is the one that uh you have on a farm? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: The one on a farm? 117: You're talking about a cow? Interviewer: Yeah and the male is a 117: Bull? Interviewer: Do you remember any any polite terms that were used around women um instead of {NW} using the word bull? 117: I must have used steer. Steer's a desexed one. Interviewer: Yeah. But you never heard of anything such as a male or a um uh 117: A male cow yeah I've heard of {X} Interviewer: Male cow. 117: Yeah yeah. Interviewer: Alright. And if you have d- if you were working in the field with uh um with animals uh what kind of animals do you did you used to use in the field? 117: I used horses and mules. Interviewer: Alright when you had {NW} two of them working together you'd say that you had a what of mules? 117: A pair a team of mules or a pair of pair of mules. Interviewer: Alright. {NW} Um. And um uh How many did you have mules that were did Were mules did mules work pretty well for you? 117: Yeah I had good mules. I kept good mules and good horses. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Now you mentioned um um the um um {NW} male breeding animal but now talking about um uh a cow giving birth to a calf. You might say talking about Daisy the cow you'd say Daisy is going to what? 117: Calve. Interviewer: Alright. And. Um. Do you ever use another term besides that looking forward to the time when she's going to calve? You'd say um 117: Gonna come in. Interviewer: Yeah. Right. Um. And and {X} that means um um 117: She's gonna freshen yeah Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: Freshen or or or come in. Those are the the um um the two words. {X} Do you have any idea why you use the word freshen? 117: Well because eh that's when the milk supply starts when they calve and Interviewer: Uh-huh. they generally have a dry period 117: #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 117: before Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 That's why # your freshening come in. Interviewer: Oh I see. So it's. I see And so you were talking before about horses um you'd say you like to what a horse? You used to like to {NS} Get up on a horse's back you say it 117: Up to ride it? Interviewer: Yeah today I ride him and yesterday I 117: Rode it. Interviewer: And many times I have 117: Many times I have ridden a horse. Interviewer: Sure. And you're riding on a man's riding on a horse he wasn't a very experienced rider and you might say he fell- the horse. He was on the horse's back and he fell- {NS} 117: He fell off the horse. {C: honking in background} Interviewer: Sure. And a little boy is in bed and you'd say he fell what bed? He fell 117: From the bed? Interviewer: Okay. And horses um these things that are shaped like this and are nailed to the horse's 117: Horseshoe {X} Interviewer: Alright. Now uh what are these nailed to? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: These Horseshoes are nailed to the horse's what? 117: Nailed to his foot? To his hoof? Interviewer: Okay. And then what's the plural of hoof? 117: Huh? Interviewer: The plural of hoof. One hoof two 117: Hooves {X} Interviewer: Okay. 117: V-E-S is hooves {D:that way you'll get} Isn't that right? Interviewer: That's exactly right. 117: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Um. Now uh do you have any a term for a male sheep? 117: He's a ram yeah. Interviewer: Okay. Um. We- any special words the- there used around women? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Instead of ram. 117: Mm I don't know they used they could use my buck. Interviewer: Okay. And then a term for female sheep. 117: She's a ewe. Interviewer: Alright. And then going back to horses you mentioned uh uh a stallion um before didn't you? {X} Oh ah you didn't. I we didn't a- I didn't ask you a male breeding animal a horse a male horse. 117: He's a stallion or a stud horse Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 either one. # Interviewer: And oh {X} You felt very comfortable using either of those terms around women? 117: Yeah I I'd {X} #1 I wouldn't feel any # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 117: #1 anything wrong # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 117: in saying a stallion and and uh and a {D:man or woman with a mr or ms} Interviewer: Okay. {C:laughing} 117: Cause missus don't mean a darn thing cause she's a married woman. Interviewer: Okay. Um and uh on a on a sheep's back the stuff they cut off a sheep's back is called what? 117: Wool. Interviewer: Alright. And uh on a uh on a on a hog's back there's 117: Hair. Interviewer: Or Say or in a brush. 117: Hmm? Interviewer: On a brush or a toothbrush. Things on a toothbrush that stick up. It is the same word you sometimes use for a the hair on a on a on a on a hog's back. 117: Talking about brushes? Interviewer: Yeah. Br-bristles I meant. 117: Bristles? Interviewer: Yeah. And then a hog especially a a wild one has two 117: Tusks? Interviewer: Alright. And hogs eat from a 117: Trough. Interviewer: And the plural of that 117: Huh? Interviewer: And two of those two One trough two 117: Two troughs. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Alright. Interviewer: Now Di-did you ever have any wild hogs around here? 117: Never heard of any wild hogs. Interviewer: Okay so you don't have any term for 117: No. Interviewer: for wild hogs then. Okay. Um. Now I wanna go back and pick up some things and these things uh will strike you as silly because but they're just for pronunciation okay? Alright first thing I want you to do is to count. 117: Count? Interviewer: Yeah. Just start counting and I'll tell you when to stop it's just 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 117: {D:Commence the} numerals Interviewer: #1 Ri- right # 117: #2 one at a time? # Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Alright one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 fourteen # Interviewer: Okay say that last one again. 117: Fourteen. Interviewer: Okay and the number after nineteen? 117: Twenty. Interviewer: And the number after twenty six? {NS} 117: Twenty seven. Interviewer: And the number after twenty nine? 117: Thirty. Interviewer: And after thirty nine? 117: After thirty nine forty. Interviewer: And the number after sixty nine? 117: Seventy. Interviewer: And the number after ninety nine? After ninety nine 117: Ninety nine? One hundred. Interviewer: And after nine hundred and ninety nine? 117: One thousand. Interviewer: And after nine nine hundred and ninety nine thousand nine hundred and 117: One million you're getting beyond Interviewer: Oh so that's as far as I'm gonna go. Now the uh the uh uh uh if you if there were ten men walking along in a line eleven men let's say walking along in a line. And you call the last man the eleventh man. What would you call the man in front of him? 117: Well I'd call him the first one. Interviewer: Okay what would y- Alright what would you call the man behind him? 117: Hmm? I'd call him the second one. Interviewer: And the next one. 117: The third. The fourth. The fifth. The sixth. The seventh. The eighth. The ninth and the tenth. Interviewer: Right. Now if if it's been if it hasn't been raining and then it begins to rain wi- without any warning at all you might say uh we were sitting there it was a very nice day and it started to rain now what might you say? 117: I'd say suddenly. Interviewer: Okay. Um now are there any other um Would you ever use another expression in place of suddenly that's exactly the idea 117: #1 Hmm? # Interviewer: #2 I'm talking about. # That's exactly the idea I'm talking about suddenly but I want 117: You want me to say {D:all at once}? Interviewer: Well if you'd use that. Would might you use that? Is that is that expr- 117: I might have said that {X} Interviewer: Okay. Now if something is two times as good as something else you might say it's 117: It's twice as good. Interviewer: Alright. Now would you name the twelve months of the year. 117: Hmm? Interviewer: The twelve months of the year 117: Alright you {C:laughing} January February March April May June July August September October November December. Interviewer: Okay and the days of the week. 117: Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday. Interviewer: Alright. Now. Did you ever um uh {X} hear Sunday called anything else? 117: Sunday? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: The sabbath? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you ever hear that term sabbath used for another day of the week? 117: Hmm? The sabbath on other days. Interviewer: Other than Sunday 117: No I did not. Interviewer: Okay. Um. How might you greet a person this time of day? 117: At this time of day? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: I'd say good morning. Interviewer: Alright. Now how late would you use that? 117: Till the sun went down. Interviewer: Okay is that right? 117: I would #1 Yeah I'd # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 117: say it to Interviewer: Alright. 117: I say it's a good morning sometimes when when it I think howdy comes in after I think howdy {D:should prove} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 to take the place after good morning. # Well um what would you call about what do you call the time of day say between three and five pm? 117: It's a it's not quite the evening. Evening comes in when the shadows begin to fall don't it? Interviewer: Okay. Um. Now the um eh what do you call the um um uh the first meal of the day? 117: That's breakfast. Interviewer: Alright and the {X} 117: Second meal? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: I'd say it's dinner. Interviewer: Okay. And the last meal? 117: {D:Just} had supper. Interviewer: Okay. Now what is some- what do some people use in eh in eh in in 117: Huh? Interviewer: A word that some people use instead of 117: Oh like the big White folks and they eat some breakfast and then uh lunch and and Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 dinner. # Interviewer: Alright. What what does lunch mean to you? 117: Well it don't mean nothing to me. Interviewer: Is that you don't use the term lunch at all huh? 117: Lunch don't mean anything to me. Interviewer: Okay. What do you call the time of the day when the sun first appears? 117: Huh? Interviewer: When the sun first appears. 117: {X} that's sunup. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 Or # sunrise. Sunup. Interviewer: Alright and when the sun disappears. 117: Sundown. Interviewer: Okay. Now if you're talking about the word if you're talking about the sun appearing ya know someone might ask you What time did the sun 117: Rise. Interviewer: Alright and so you'd answer This morning the sun- at five thirty the sun- 117: If I knew I'd {X} I'd tell it yes. Interviewer: #1 Okay the sun # 117: #2 {X} # Sun riz at that Interviewer: #1 Okay # 117: #2 time # Interviewer: #1 Would you use riz? # 117: #2 {X} # Huh? Interviewer: Would you use probably use riz? 117: {NW} Interviewer: Huh? 117: If that go to ask me about sun I think I'd say sun riz this morning. Interviewer: Okay and so the sun had already what before we started to work? 117: It already had risen. Interviewer: Okay. And um you're talking about the day of the week and someone says when's Wednesday? And you'd say well Wednesday is 117: {NW} You mean its position? There's a Interviewer: No I'm talking about this week right now. Um say when's Wednesday? You'd say well Wednesday is 117: It's it's in it's in mid- it's in middle Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 of the week. # Interviewer: But we're talking about this week and ya know our {NW} talking about the time right now. You'd say uh {X} when was Tuesday? And you'd say Tuesday was- When was Tuesday? When was When when or say when is June seventeenth? You'd say why June seventeenth is 117: Today. Interviewer: Yeah. And June sixteenth was 117: Yesterday. Interviewer: And June eighteenth will be 117: Let's see that would be What is today? Interviewer: #1 Today is the seventeenth. # 117: #2 It'd be Fri- it'd # Interviewer: #1 No well # 117: #2 be Friday. # Interviewer: Today is the today is the seventeenth. 117: And you #1 said # Interviewer: #2 And # 117: the eighteenth'll be tomorrow. Interviewer: Okay. And if you're talking about uh something you had coming up in the future. Talking about something happening uh on Sunday. On uh not this next Sunday but the Sunday after that. You might say I'm going to see him- 117: Sunday after next? Interviewer: Yeah. Is that what you'd probably say? You'd probably say Sunday after next rather than Sunday week. {NS} 117: Yep. If you if you keep up with the almanac you'd say {NW} name it the fourth Sunday while it was Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 {X} # It's gonna be the fourth Sunday. Interviewer: Uh if you wanted to know the time you might ask someone {NS} 117: What time is it? Interviewer: And on my wrist I'm wearing a 117: Hmm? Interviewer: On my wrist I'm wearing a what? 117: A watch? Interviewer: Alright. and it um uh what time would can you see the clock from Here uh what time will it be in about about three minutes? Two minutes. 117: It'll be a quarter to one. Interviewer: Alright. And what time was it fifteen minutes ago? About fifteen minutes ago. When the big hand was on six. 117: Huh? Interviewer: When the big hand was on six what time was it? 117: It was half past twelve Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And and when it was on three. 117: It was a quarter after the hour. Interviewer: Okay that's what I was getting at. Fine. Now If nineteen sixty nine was last year nineteen seventy is 117: Is this year. Interviewer: Okay and nineteen seventy one will be 117: Be next year. Interviewer: Alright. When a baby has its first birthday You'd say he is 117: One year old. Interviewer: When he has his second 117: #1 Two. # Interviewer: #2 birthday? # The whole thing. 117: #1 Two # Interviewer: #2 You'd say # 117: years old. Interviewer: And he has his third birthday he's 117: Three years old. Interviewer: Alright. Um. Now today um if today is is uh June uh seventeenth nineteen seventy. If something happened on June seventeenth nineteen sixty nine you'd say that happened just 117: One year ago Interviewer: Right. 117: today. Interviewer: Alright now if the sun is shining and the weather is is um uh is pleasant uh how would you describe the {NW} describe the situation how would you describe the weather? 117: I'd say it's a beautiful day. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Now if um we're talking about the um what does the wind do? 117: What does the wind do? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 The # wind blows. Interviewer: Okay and someone says uh did the wind blow and you say yes it really 117: It really did. Interviewer: Really- It really what hard. It really- 117: It really did blow hard? Interviewer: Alright take the did out. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Take the did out. 117: It really blew hard? Interviewer: Sure. In fact it has- several times this month. It has- 117: Blown? Interviewer: Sure. And now if you look out the front window some day and there's uh and you can't see across the street. Say we really have a heavy what? 117: Fog? Interviewer: Alright. And now something like a fog uh well and then {NW} say um um uh If um something is uh well on a day like that you call it what kind of a day? It's a 117: Oh it's a soggy day up there if you if you gonna have mush in there. Interviewer: Okay. But if using the word fog you'd say it's a 117: Dark day? Interviewer: No using that word {X} 117: Foggy? Interviewer: Yeah. Now if if {NW} yesterday was even worse you'd say yesterday was even- than #1 today. # 117: #2 More # so. Interviewer: More of what? It was even not take more out but say it was even 117: Now I I wouldn't repeat that. Interviewer: You wouldn't say foggier. 117: I wouldn't say foggier. Interviewer: Okay you'd say just more so okay. Um. What do you call a {X} Describe a period of time where you haven't had any rain. 117: Called a drought. Interviewer: Alright. And would you call it that even if it was very long or short? 117: That's right. Long or short drought a long drought that short drought. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 A long # Interviewer: A long what were you gonna say something uh is there another word 117: A long dry period of Interviewer: Okay. Um. If there's been no wind and suddenly it begins to make itself felt you might say that the wind is 117: Rising. Interviewer: Alright. And if the wind begins to subside you might say the wind is 117: Dying away. Interviewer: Alright. And uh if it didn't snow um but it was very cold and there was a whiteness in the grass you might say we had a what last night? 117: Had a frost. Interviewer: Alright. And if it becomes very cold and the ground becomes stiff you'd say we had a- 117: What you talking about a hoarfrost? Interviewer: Yeah. That's right. Uh but this I'm talking about the ground. This is something you'd say we had a uh the temperature dropped down below thirty two degrees you'd say we had a 117: When the ground's {X} with ice on it that what you talking about? Interviewer: Yeah well I wasn't thinking so much That's the idea. But I was thinking of that kills the crops. 117: Talking about a killing frost? Interviewer: Alright. You call it a killing frost. Um do you ever call it a hard freeze? 117: Yeah it was that's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: That's what the weather man says We're gonna have a hard freeze Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: But to you killing frost would be more 117: With killing frost is your first is your first uh hard freeze. It kills the vegetation Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 That's what # killing frost is. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 You don't get but # one a year. Interviewer: Okay. And so when the temperature drops below thirty two degrees the water in the pond 117: It freezes. Interviewer: Alright and last night the w- the temperature dropped down below thirty two and the water in the pond 117: Water in the pipes froze I went through Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay what happens to the pipes then? 117: They busted. {NW} Interviewer: Okay. Okay. Uh and uh the water hasn't uh uh what many times this winter? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: The water hasn't- The water in the pipes hasn't uh hasn't what? Many times. 117: Hasn't frozen? Interviewer: Sure. Um. Um. Now do you have a special name for a very thin layer of ice? 117: Just call it a skim of ice. Interviewer: Okay. Now would you name the rooms in the in the uh in in both the house you were born in or the house you were raised in and this house? 117: Name what? Interviewer: Name the rooms of the house. Just kinda give me a layout or description of the rooms of the house as you walk in the door. You could start with this one or tha- or the or the farm house. 117: #1 Well you see # Interviewer: #2 You were b- # 117: I I wasn't born in the farm in the house that I was raised in. Interviewer: Well that's the one I mean. 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 the one you were th- # 117: the one I was raised in Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Alright you want to know how many rooms there was? Interviewer: Yeah and where they were Just talk about when you walk in which way was the house facing 117: Well we walked into the living room and it was a house that had uh four big rooms and a hall all the way through and there was a two rooms built on the back which was a dining room and a kitchen. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: But we'd always use the side entrance and walk into the Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: into the uh living room. Interviewer: I see. 117: That was four and two is six and then there's two upstairs rooms the attics the unfinished type. Interviewer: Okay. Now that was in the house you were 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 that was # 117: that was the house I was raised Interviewer: Now how about this house. 117: This house has got {NW} Three up and three down. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Now what do you call this room? 117: What do I call this Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Hmm this is my living room. Interviewer: Okay and then have a room with is there a room over there? 117: What? Interviewer: Is there a room across the hall? 117: That's just a hall. Interviewer: I see. 117: There's no room across Interviewer: #1 Oh I see. # 117: #2 there. # You see you gotta up-upstairs {X} three rooms upstairs and behind this is a dining room next to the kitchen. Interviewer: I see. Okay. Now uh if you're talking about the ceiling in this room you'd say I ask you how high the ceiling you'd say oh the ceiling is probably 117: These are th-that's at least ten feet. The one I lived out in the country had twelve foot ceiling. Interviewer: Is that so. 117: But this is about te- I'd hazard this Yes this'd be about ten feet. It's not twelve I don't think it's twelve feet do you? Interviewer: Uh I don't know it's pretty it's a high ceiling but uh I don't know if it's twelve feet or not. Um talking about um hearing something he-hearing something ya know. And I'd say Did you ever- that noise? Did you ever- {NS} Did you hear that? You say yes I- 117: I heard it #1 yeah I # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 117: heard it. Interviewer: Yeah. Um uh and if if if you didn't I'd say did you ever hear that and you'd say no I- 117: I never heard it. Interviewer: Okay. And when a person gets married one of the remarks he makes to the minister is I- 117: What's that? Interviewer: Alright um {X} when a uh talking about um talking about chewing tobacco let's say you'd say I don't chew tobacco but he- 117: He chews it. Interviewer: He yeah that's right he but say don't use that word say it's we're talking {X} I don't but he- 117: He do. Interviewer: Okay would you say that? 117: Yeah. Interviewer: Huh? 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Would you use that? # 117: I'd say I can get {D:you to} leave it at that. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Um. Uh. He used to smoke but now he- 117: Don't. Interviewer: Alright uh 117: That's me I don't. Interviewer: Alright. Uh have you any more work uh any more work uh to do in the field? No I- yesterday. 117: I worked Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 yesterday. # Interviewer: And so {X} uh is the work {X} uh Say I have what the work I have- You know completed it but using a form of do you'd say I have what the work? I have- 117: Quit work? Interviewer: No talking using a form of the word do. 117: Hmm? Interviewer: A form of the word do. 117: I do not work anymore. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. I have what it all I have- 117: I have done it. Interviewer: Okay. And um talking about Did you mail that letter? Uh are you going to mail that letter? Um. And you'd say I might say I mailed it yesterday or you might say I what it yesterday? I- I don't have to do it today because I- yesterday. I- 117: Mailed it? Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Um. Now talking I want to ask you about this this um uh this I don't but he do. Uh I w- I really would like you to to to tell me the the uh um the associations you make with that form and the situations in which you'd use it. 117: What do and don't? Interviewer: No {X} he do. I don't but he do. 117: {NW} Interviewer: You know just 117: {NW} Well I should've said he does Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 but I # I was just kidding Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 you when # I said he do. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Would you ever use he do? 117: Yeah I yeah I wouldn't mind it at all. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {X} In any special situations? 117: Well I I think it would apply most any Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 things. # Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 117: #2 I think # it a very I think it's a wonderful expression. Interviewer: Okay. 117: {X} We just {X} this morning. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Alright. But you associate that with um um uh with country uh with coun- with country speech. Do you associate he do with any special kind of people? 117: My sort yeah. Interviewer: Yeah okay. Um. Just a um. You associate with as a as a uh typical expression uh among farmers. 117: Frankly I couldn't tell you whether I have heard anybody say he do but in my life but I said it then Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 and so I # ain't gonna I'm not gonna disown my own Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 expression. # Interviewer: Okay. Uh that's fine. Now. {NS} Uh 117: It's that sounds like true dialect don't it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Yes uh but I don't want I what I was really I'd really like you know to to um um you know to {X} to um to get your reaction to it as well as your um uh you know your use of the term. And I like to know under what circumstance I mean if you think it's just just using it humorously or if you use it uh seriously or if you use it among special in special kinds of of uh social situations 117: Buddy I think it would I think it would be applicable I think that if I was trying to be {D:impressive} I'd say he does. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But just casually and and you'd 117: #1 I I like # Interviewer: #2 uh # 117: that. Interviewer: Okay. Alright 117: #1 I like that # Interviewer: #2 fine. # 117: as you gonna find out. Interviewer: Okay well that's fine. Uh what do you call the sound a calf makes being weaned? 117: What's that? Interviewer: A calf being weaned. 117: What do I call him? Interviewer: Yeah that that the sound a calf makes. The noise. 117: He bleats and Interviewer: Sure that's exactly Now the sound cattle make at feeding time. {NS} 117: At feeding time? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: They low Interviewer: And horses. 117: Horses? Horses don't make no fuss but they neigh if that's what you Interviewer: Okay. And then um if um uh you're going to give the food to the cattle you'd say I'm going to what the cattle? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: I'm going to what the cattle {D:on} take food out for the cattle. 117: I'm going to feed 'em. Interviewer: Alright and how about if you're talking about what word would you use if you were talking about um uh {X} all the stock. {D:You,you'd} {D:say} horses as well. 117: I'm gonna feed the stock. Interviewer: Alright and how about the uh uh eh would you use that if you were talking about um about chickens as well? Would you call chickens stock? 117: Well they come in a different category. Interviewer: Okay. 117: A chicken's a chicken. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} So you'd say I'm gonna go out and feed the chickens huh? 117: Yeah that that wasn't my job my I never did give too much {X} that Interviewer: O- okay. What do you call a um a hen sitting on an egg? 117: I would've called it hen sitting on an egg. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: I called it a sitting hen. Interviewer: Alright. And now names of kinds of shelters that chickens live in. 117: Well you have a chicken house is all I know. Interviewer: Alright. You remember a little portable one that you might carry 117: What you talking about a coop? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Yeah. Interviewer: What was what was that shaped like? 117: Well it had various shapes. There were {D:so many shapes} because they used to make 'em out of boards and you could have any kind of chicken coop. Interviewer: I see. Okay. Now do you remember the name of that bone that chicken bone that uh #1 shaped # 117: #2 You talking # about the wish bone? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: {D:Pulling then the} pulley bone we called Interviewer: Okay. Now was there a- was there a uh um any uh superstitions or beliefs attached to the pulley bone? 117: Yeah that we wouldn't get the shortest one and something some uh {D: symbol there you} and some folks would cheat and break it {X} the long or the short I don't remember the legend there. Interviewer: Okay. And how about a term for the edible insides of um of a um uh of a of a pig? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: The edible insides of a #1 hog # 117: #2 Talking about its # chitlins? Interviewer: Okay. Um eh Did you eat chitlins? Uh when you were uh uh rai- uh living on the farm? 117: We didn't miss {D: Marstool} didn't like 'em but later on we got to where we ate some chitlins. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 It was a very # good stinking thing. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is is that right? Um. And the the time when uh when the when the cattle are given their or they the stock's given their food you call that what? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: The the time when the stock is given its food. 117: I I don't I don't guess Interviewer: Well I mean it uh you'd use the expression like uh feeding time or something like that. 117: Well it always comes before you could go and eat yourself you had to tend to your cows before you Interviewer: Now um. What how did you uh you remember that how'd you call the the the cows to get 'em in from the pasture? 117: Yeah but I ain't gonna give you #1 a demonstration # Interviewer: #2 Aw come on. # Yeah I wish you would. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Do the best you can. I really wish you would. 117: I ain't I ain't gonna do that. I had two or three different ways of hollering the cows Interviewer: #1 O- # 117: #2 I # Interviewer: I wish you would because this is important because see these things are are are regionally distributed also. There are the people in different different parts of the South do this in different ways and we're we really like to get a um 117: {D:I I at last} before I quit I had a big old holler I could do I forgot it {D: and they they'd} come from way back down Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {D:there over} # the barn but I I don't {D:done forgot that} Interviewer: Okay. 117: You said {NW} {C:cattle call} Interviewer: Okay. 117: And I called for names you know. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh how about uh any did you have any special calls to make them stand still at milking time? 117: Huh? Interviewer: At milking time to make them stand still. 117: No I the folks would say {D: soo} or something like that but I didn't have no trouble I when I put my hands on the tits I got the milk. #1 I'd milk 'em. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 117: It didn't make no difference how much {D: they danced} Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Now uh any did you have any special calls to calves? 117: No you pretty sure you used terms of endearment that they learned to Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: to come to you. Interviewer: I see. Uh {X} calls to mules or horses to make them turn left and right when plowing. 117: Oh you talking about gee and haw {D: gee's} the right and then haw to the left. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 Yeah yeah now that's # Interviewer: Sure. And then any special calls to horses to get them in from the pasture? {NS} 117: I never did {X} have any special calls. There was one that {D: Wolf} used to use but Interviewer: You remember what that was? 117: Mm-mm. Interviewer: {X} {D:How is he} uh call a ho- call what would you ca- say to a horse to make it stop? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: {X} call to a horse to stop. 117: Whoa boy. Interviewer: Alright and calls to pigs at feeding time. 117: Piggy piggy piggy. Interviewer: Alright. And and did you ever have sheep? 117: Nope never had any sheep. Interviewer: Alright calls to chickens at feed chickens at 117: #1 {D: Chickory} # Interviewer: #2 feed # 117: chick chick chick Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 {D: chickory chickoo} # Interviewer: Alright. And then uh uh if you were gonna take the horses out you have to do what to them first? You have to. What do you 117: {D: Curr} 'em yes {D: curr} your horse that what you talking Interviewer: No I'm this is what you put on when put when you put the the tackle on the horse ya know. 117: Before they put the harness on 'em #1 You {X} # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 117: {D:where you caught} your horse and carry him to the watering trough and then you come out and curred him and brushed his hair and then you'd put your harness on him and then you went to the field and then you went to work. Interviewer: Right. Okay now what I was getting at is would you say I'm gonna hitch up the horse or I'm gonna harness the horse? Which is more more uh which would you more likely use? I'm gonna hitch up the horse or I'm gonna harness the horse? 117: I don't know what you're driving at. Interviewer: Well. I mean if you were gonna do this to a horse ya know you're gonna take it out in the field you're gonna go out and work with a horse uh you'd say I would you say I'm going to hitch up the horse or I'm going to harness the horse? {NS} Or something 117: Well the harnessing comes first and the hitching up comes comes next. Interviewer: #1 I see so # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: they're two separate things that's 117: That's right. Interviewer: I see. And then what you hold on to when you're when you're driving a horse um the thing 117: Hold on to the line? Interviewer: Yeah. And do you call the same thing in plowing? 117: You have lines when you plowed 'em #1 yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # How about when you're riding on a horse's back? 117: Huh? Interviewer: When you're riding on a horse's back. 117: Oh you're holding you hold the reins {X} Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 you're riding to. # Interviewer: Alright and the things when you're riding on a on a on a saddle horse you uh you have your feet in the 117: Stirrup. Interviewer: Alright. And then did you have a parti- you have a particular name for the horse on the left or the horse on the right 117: #1 Hmm? # Interviewer: #2 in plowing? # In plowing 117: Yeah. Interviewer: The horse on the left and the horse on the right 117: {D:Yeah the} horse on the left is the {D:nearest horse} and the horse on the right's on the offside. Interviewer: Alright. Um and if you're talking about a distance distance from one place to another and something's just a i- is a is a short distance you'd say Oh that's just a 117: Over the hill. Interviewer: Yeah. And then if it's a long distance you'd say oh it's really a 117: A long way. Interviewer: Alright. Um. And if something's very {X} is not at all difficult to find. Something isn't difficult to find at all. You might say oh you can find that 117: Anywhere. Interviewer: Yeah. And if a {X} a boy fell this way you'd say he fell 117: Face forward. Interviewer: And if he fell the other way 117: He fell backwards. Interviewer: Alright. And someone {X} asks you about an apple about apples you know he says Are there any apples left? And you say no. The apples are 117: Gone. Interviewer: Alright. Um would you ever would you say neither one narrow one or nary a one any 117: Nary yeah nary's my favorite Interviewer: #1 {D:Nary a one huh} # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Would it would it be nary a one is that 117: Nary a one left. Interviewer: Alright. Um. {NS} Um. If um someone broke a rake of yours let's say a rake or a an old rake or an old um spade a shovel or something. You might say Oh that's all I right I didn't like it- 117: You talking about breaking a tool? Interviewer: Yeah. Breaks an old tool of yours and you say Oh that's okay. That's alright. I didn't like it- 117: I don't know what I'd Interviewer: Well something like I didn't like it anyway I didn't like it anyhow or I didn't like it no way. 117: No way's what {D:you mean, you need} Interviewer: Well whichever one you use is what I want. Um. Say Did he give you any? You'd say no he didn't give me 117: He didn't give me any whatever it is. Interviewer: Okay. Um. And a little boy is spoiled. Um. And and uh when he grows up you might say when he grows up {X} he'll have his trouble. He'll have his trouble. Uh something like like is not apt is not or probably 117: Oh when you're when you're being spoiled I call him a spoiled brat and I don't Interviewer: {NW} 117: think {D:laid on an excuse} Interviewer: Okay. How about what do you call trenches cut by a plow? 117: A what? Interviewer: Trenches cut by a plow. What do you dig with a plow. 117: {D:Strangers} Interviewer: Is that you know trenches or what do you call those things that a plow digs? A plow when you're plowing you're you're digging or you're 117: #1 You mean # Interviewer: #2 make- # 117: {D:the fall in the} {X} Interviewer: Yeah. Um. To get the land ready to plant by getting rid of trees and bushes you'd say we had to what the land? 117: We had to clear it. Interviewer: Yeah. Um is there any other words you'd use 117: #1 Nope # Interviewer: #2 for that # 117: None as I Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 know. # Interviewer: And say we raised a big what of cotton that year. We raised a big 117: A big what? Interviewer: A big what of cotton? Had a good year. You'd say we raised a very big 117: We raised a a good crop of cotton that Interviewer: Alright. And did you have a term for a second cutting of clover or grass? 117: That's a aftermath yeah. Interviewer: Okay. Um. And then um. Uh would you call did you ever have three crops in a in a year? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Did you ever have three crops in a in a in a season? 117: Nope. #1 I never had that. # Interviewer: #2 Just two huh? # Alright. Um. Now when you're tying up um uh hay. Um. This is this is you also for for wheat but I don't suppose you you raised any wheat but uh in you tie things up into um you tie hay up into 117: A bundle? Interviewer: Yeah. Now. Would you have smaller bundles that you smaller uh collections that you'd tie up before you made a bundle? 117: Oh now here you you getting to where I was {X} At home we a man had a scythe and he would cut your oats. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: And wheat. And you'd follow behind that's my job and you'd pick up a armful and you'd tie it into a bundle. And twelve of those bundles would make a shock. Interviewer: I see twelve bundles would make a shock. 117: {D:Twelve} Twelve bundles would make a shock. Interviewer: Okay. And did you ever use the expression sheaf though or 117: Huh? Interviewer: You'd ever use sheaf or sheaves in that 117: Sheaves? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: No that that's proper but sheaves is Interviewer: Yeah. But you'd tie you'd tie up twelve little bundles #1 And then # 117: #2 We tied # them bundles and then then Interviewer: #1 And and made a shock # 117: #2 make a shock. # Interviewer: with twelve twelve bundles. Alright. If you uh if you had one bushel of corn and you added thirty nine more you'd have forty 117: If I had what thirty nine bushels and we've got another one have forty bushels of corn. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 Yes. # Interviewer: Now um when oats when you talking about going through and uh and uh cutting the oats 117: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Do you ever use another word other than cutting? Say the oats are- Or would you say oats is or oats are? 117: Say use any word besides cutting Interviewer: Yeah. 117: {NW} No I wouldn't think so. Interviewer: When they're harvested there's 117: #1 {D:Well} # Interviewer: #2 a word # 117: We could've said I would've possibly said that but Interviewer: Yeah. Well I was 117: #1 But I think # Interviewer: #2 saying # 117: I said we're gonna start cutting oats tomorrow. Interviewer: Alright. Um. And would you say the uh uh would you ever use threshed or thrashed? 117: What? Interviewer: Thrashed? Or threshed? 117: Threshed? Interviewer: Yeah. With e- with 117: #1 Oh # Interviewer: #2 oats. # 117: yeah {D:that's with that} threshing machine is come along and thrash your your grain. Interviewer: Okay. Now If you were talking about oats would ya say The oats is threshed or the oats are threshed? 117: I'd say the oats have been thrashed. Interviewer: Okay the oats have been okay. Um um someone wants to know who it is and you'd say it's- 117: It is me? Interviewer: #1 Yeah it # 117: #2 Or it is I? # Interviewer: alright it's me and you'd say and if you're talking about another man you'd say it's not me it's- 117: It's him. Interviewer: And it's no- and a woman you'd say it's- 117: It's her. Interviewer: And if and if there's a number of of people you'd say it's- 117: It's they. Interviewer: Alright would you say it's they probably? Or it's them which 117: I might've say them I don't know I write out the first one that comes to mind. Interviewer: Okay fine that's that's that's what I want you to say. Uh. Now you're talking about how tall someone is you'd say well he isn't as tall as- In relation to yourself. You'd say well he isn't as tall as- 117: You are I I wouldn't know well I'd say he isn't as tall as John John is Interviewer: He's talking about you though. 117: Huh? Interviewer: You'd say he isn't as tall as 117: Isn't as tall as I am. Interviewer: Yeah. And I'm not as tall as- 117: As you. Interviewer: Alright there's a man though you know another man over there {X} but use a uh eh use a third you know person not uh I I'm not as tall as- that man over there. I'm not as tall as- You'd say I'm not as tall as he is or I'm not as tall as him. 117: I'd say him. Interviewer: Okay. Um and we're talking about possession of something and I ask you Whose is um whose it this? 117: That's mine. Interviewer: Alright and uh 117: Biggest one in the world. Interviewer: Okay. Whose is this? {C:laughing} 117: That's your'n. Interviewer: Alright. And uh 117: {D:Put that} {X} {D:on now} that's your'n. Interviewer: Okay that's {X} Is that uh {X} How does how does that word fit into your uh into your speech really now? Your'n. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Your'n. That's um uh and if it belongs to to him 117: It's his'n. Interviewer: And if it belongs to her 117: It's her'n. Interviewer: Alright and if belonged to uh to them 117: It's their'n. Interviewer: Alright. Now for those N- forms Are those uh are those really were those really very common? Um in your uh um community 117: #1 In my # Interviewer: #2 when you # 117: #1 association yeah # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 117: There's there's it was very common in my association cause it was just spent with the negroes out there on the farm. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Um. Talking about the greatest distance you could walk you'd say two miles is the what I could walk? 117: The greatest distance? Interviewer: Yeah would you say two miles is as far as I could walk all the farther I could walk or the furthest I could walk? 117: I've walked eight miles to Newnan many time {D: driving bool yelling} so I wouldn't Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: say there's a limit to it. Interviewer: Okay. Um. But if you were talking about {NW} the um uh would you would you if you were talking about some limit let's say twenty or thirty miles. You'd say twenty miles is as far as I could walk in one day or or all the farther I could walk in one day or the furthest I could walk in one day. Which of those? 117: Well I'd say I can't walk for more than two miles a day now. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Now how about the use of you all? 117: Huh? Interviewer: The use of you all. 117: You all? Interviewer: Yeah. Now do you limit that to more than one person or do you sometimes use it with reference only to one person? 117: No y'all always meant more than one to me. Interviewer: Okay. And um uh how about using it in the possessive? talking about uh the car belonged to several people. Would you ever s- would you ever uh use that um to say uh y'all's car? 117: Now I wouldn't think I ever used that. Interviewer: Alright and if you wa- 117: I never had an occasion Interviewer: #1 Okay # 117: #2 to use that. # Interviewer: and if you wanted to know uh who was there might you say who all was there? Or who just who was there? 117: Say who was there that I I say that who was there. Interviewer: Alright. And um uh if you wanted to know everything that a person said you might say uh would you said What did what all did he say is that uh 117: Yeah that's Interviewer: #1 Or just # 117: #2 what all # did he say yeah Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 {D:I'd pick a hold of that} # Interviewer: How about who all's children were there? 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 Who # 117: Who I wouldn't put who all well I'd say whose children is that. Interviewer: Okay. Um you'd say um They don't there's no one taking care of them now so they've got to look out for- 117: Themselves. Interviewer: Alright. And um he better do it he's not going to get any help from anyone he has to do that- 117: By himself. Interviewer: Alright. And we're coming to some different kinds of bread you were talking about {D:whole cakes} before now there's some different kinds of of um uh what kind of flour is uh is bread usually made from? 117: Well you've got uh Interviewer: In addition to #1 corn. # 117: #2 wheat. # You've got wheat flour. Interviewer: Alright. 117: And uh that's about all rye flour rye stuff I don't know about that. Interviewer: Alright. How about uh what do you call um bread {NS} made with white with white flour? 117: With white flour? Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} 117: Just white bread Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: Um. {NS} And something else that that is made in a pan like bread made in smaller made with flour and similar to bread make a pan 117: You talking about {D:red broves} Interviewer: Yeah or make a pan of what? 117: Pan of rolls that what you Interviewer: Yeah there's another word like rolls though. 117: I don't know what you talking about. Interviewer: Not rolls but a 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 pan # of biscuits. 117: Oh lord I was raised on biscuits and can can make you some good #1 biscuits. Yeah. Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. Okay. {C:laughing} # Now tell me 117: And hot bread I'm a hot bread man. That's what you talking about hot bread. Interviewer: Okay. Um. Biscuits or hot bread? 117: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 Or just # 117: that that's hot bread cause your baker's bread is cold bread Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 you know it's cold. # Interviewer: Okay. Now uh what kind tell me some things that are that are made with corn meal. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Some kinds of bread that are made with corn meal. 117: Well you can make uh the whole cake and you can make uh muffins and you can make batter cakes and I don't know. Those are the three types I know you and then you used to well I ain't going into that. Interviewer: Yeah I wish you would if you can if you can think of them. 117: They used to make a mush I we never did make mush {D:folks just keep mush} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: That was um {D:sugar} slowly boiled mixed with corn Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 meal. I we # never did were mush eaters. Interviewer: Did you ever hear mush called anything else? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Did you ever hear mush called anything else? 117: Looks like it could have another name what was it? Interviewer: Well I was thinking of cush. 117: #1 Cush yeah yeah # Interviewer: #2 Did you ever # 117: yeah I heard of cush yeah Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 I heard of him too. # Interviewer: Okay. Now um what's a corn dodger is that 117: What? Interviewer: A corn dodger. 117: That must be in the old pones They make them into pones It they'd shape them up into a pone and put about three big old pones in a dish and bake it I don't know what a corn dodger is unless that's it. Interviewer: Okay. And what did you call those little balls of of cornmeal that are sometimes you put onion in it in the in the cornmeal and then drop it in uh 117: You talking about corn dumplings? Interviewer: Right. And you boil these in fat. 117: Uh we never did have {X} corn dumplings. I wasn't raised on that. Interviewer: Okay. Um now this is a kind of um of um uh pastry that has a hole in the middle. 117: Oh that's a donut ain't it? Interviewer: Okay. And you mi- are there any any other things similar to donuts? Maybe somewhat different shape and taste and different kinds of flour? 117: Donuts and you used to have uh you used to make a. Now what donuts got the hole in it Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And while I don't know what them things look like tea cakes we was raised on tea cakes. They were just another flat cakes. What you call 'em what they call 'em now. They call them they use them now. That's over where {X} They serve them at these women serve them what you call them? You know what I'm driving Interviewer: #1 Yeah you don't # 117: #2 at. # Interviewer: Tea cakes I really don't know {X} 117: Wafers wafers Interviewer: Wafers? 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 They're like cookies # 117: #1 they said wafers. # Interviewer: #2 or something like that. # 117: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # Um now you mentioned batter cakes as being made of corn meal. 117: Yeah. Interviewer: Um did you ever have uh batter cakes made of um of um uh ordinary flour? 117: No {X} I think partially put a little flour in this that was a batter cake. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh and you put syrup butter and syrup on those? 117: That's right. Butter them and uh. Now the the best thing of all was you made it out of your wheat. That was a waffle. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} 117: A waffle was a Did you ever see a waffle? Interviewer: Oh sure. 117: #1 A waffle now that's # Interviewer: #2 Sure I eat waffles all the time. # 117: real good eating Interviewer: Yeah. 117: You had to have plenty of time and deliver it to to cook another of them for a man could eat them faster than he could they could Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 cook them. # Interviewer: Right. Uh if uh you have one pound of flour and you add two more then you have 117: Three pounds. Interviewer: Alright and the center of the egg is called what? 117: The yolk. Interviewer: Alright. And the uh material used to make bread rise is- 117: You talking about yeast? Interviewer: Yeah. And the what's the color of a yolk? 117: What? Interviewer: The color of the yolk of an egg. What color is the yolk of an egg? 117: It's yellow. Interviewer: Alright. And and what about the uh uh uh if you take take eggs and put them in in uh um uh boiling water for three minutes you have a- 117: You have a boiled egg a hard oh you mean cooking and poaching. You talking about poaching them? Interviewer: Okay tell me about how do you do that? 117: Poaching them? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: You get your water to boiling put some egg in there and cook them and it's pr- pretty good eating. Interviewer: Okay. Uh now here we've come back to some different kinds of meat that uh um um different kinds of hog meat. Now what do you call the meat from the underside of a hog that that has practically no lean in it at all? 117: That's the side meat of the hog. Interviewer: Alright. Now is there any other word used besides side meat? 117: Oh I think that I think that's where the bacon comes from. Interviewer: Yeah. Alright. Um. Now if it has no lean in it at all you'd call it side meat? 117: You have about that {D:there} up at the top the fat back. Interviewer: Alright. 117: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 The fat # back has no no um uh no lean at all but if it has some lean in it you call it side meat and then if it has a little more lean you call it 117: #1 Well you see # Interviewer: #2 bacon # 117: when we bu- butchered our own hogs that that fat back is what we took and made lard out of. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {X} # we cut the thing down where the where the the backbone comes out and and the ribs come to there's a place there where that uh under part Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: There's a clear line it was uh I reckon the ribs must come from back Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 there as far as # I know it's been so long since I Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: killed a hog but Interviewer: Yeah. 117: The side meat was what we used to boil #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 vegetables in. # I see. You don't remember any any humorous terms for that 117: What you talking about {D: salt belly}? Interviewer: Yeah {NS} {D:salt belly} um I interviewed a man over in Tallapoosa couple of weeks ago and he called it uh Alabama ham. Or uh an Arkansas chicken. 117: #1 No I never did # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 117: #1 {X} I didn't hear that. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Yeah. 117: We just called ours side meat and went on. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Now uh when you a- when you cure bacon um. You and you after you uh when you cut it you have to cut it that part off the edge that hardens. Hard on the end what's that called? 117: #1 What? # Interviewer: #2 It's a crust # That crusty part on the end of a bacon. 117: Slab? Interviewer: Yeah the slab of bacon but there's a a crusty part on the end. That you can't eat The hard part 117: I don't know unless you're talking about the titties where there was just the sows where their tits were. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But I didn't mean that but uh did you ever call that kind of meat anything? 117: We never did designate the difference. Interviewer: Alright well I was I was thinking about was in curing bacon you have this rind on the around the edges 117: What the rind? Interviewer: Yeah. Um and then meat packed in a casing is called what? 117: You put sausage in the cases. Interviewer: Alright and the man who cuts meat in town is called a- 117: Hmm? Interviewer: The man who cuts meat 117: #1 He's a meat # Interviewer: #2 A meat cutter # 117: cutter. Interviewer: A meat #1 cutter or a # 117: #2 He's a butcher. # Interviewer: Alright. And the um would you say that again please? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Would you say that again? 117: Butcher. Interviewer: Yeah I was talking {X} Um the meat if um if meat is left out too long isn't kept refrigerated it might 117: It'll spoil. Interviewer: Alright and thi- this is a kind of uh of um uh of a food made with the meat from a hog's head. 117: Oh you talking about souse? Interviewer: Okay. And if butter is left out too long what is that? 117: #1 Hmm? # Interviewer: #2 What happens # to butter? 117: Butter? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: #1 It gets # Interviewer: #2 Butter's left # 117: spoiled and gets rank that's the absolute end of it Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 as far as I know. # Interviewer: And now milk when milk 117: #1 It sours # Interviewer: #2 thickens # 117: yes. Interviewer: or and it thickens When it thickens 117: clabbers clabbers yeah Interviewer: Right and what you have a name for a kind of cheese that that's made of that 117: You talking about cottage cheese? Interviewer: Right. And if you were uh you're working with milk and you want to get the impurities out of it and you po- wanna you pour it through something you'd say you're doing what to the milk? 117: What you talking about a straining? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: That's right. An apple pastry baked in a deep dish. Do you have a name for that? A kind of apple uh {NS} 117: An apple sauce? Interviewer: Well that's Okay but I was thinking of something more like a pie. A kind of apple pie 117: #1 Oh I was raised # Interviewer: #2 baked in a # 117: on apple pies yeah. Interviewer: Yeah in a deep dish though. If you had a special name 117: #1 Not too # Interviewer: #2 {D:for it} # 117: deep a dish. Interviewer: No. 117: I was raised on apple pie. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. But uh a deep when in the you didn't have anything made in a deep dish that you can 117: Now you can make a deep dish if you want to. My people didn't use a deep dish Interviewer: Okay. Um. Do you have a name for a sweet liquid served with pudding. 117: What? Interviewer: A sweet liquid. It might be poured on top of a of a pudding. 117: I wouldn't know that's just a sauce. Interviewer: Okay. Now what would that include 117: Hmm? Interviewer: What would a sauce include? 117: I wouldn't know. Interviewer: Alright do you have a name for food eaten between meals? 117: Nope. Interviewer: Okay. And if you were gonna just eat something between meals you might say you're gonna ta- have a little 117: Never had any name for that. Interviewer: Alright. Um. Now talking about um you you say in the morning I get up and I what breakfast I I 117: What you talking about shaving? Interviewer: No breakfast I 117: You want me to say what miss Bartow wouldn't let me say I ate breakfast. Interviewer: Okay. Who's miss Boxer is that your teacher? 117: I keep calling her miss Bartow that's my mother. Interviewer: Oh I see. You called your mother that? 117: I called her miss Bartow. Interviewer: Oh I see. 117: Cause those negroes did. Interviewer: Uh-huh. I see. 117: No she never did let us ate. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And what what'd you want me to say I'd eaten breakfast? Interviewer: Well whichever you'd use you know. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Yes whichever um uh whichever How do you spell that the name you called your mother miss uh 117: B-A-R-T-O-W Interviewer: I see was that her uh was that her 117: That was her given name she was named {D:of} her brother went in the army and he thought so much as general Bartow who a county up here in north Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 {X} # was named for a general Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 Bartow. # And there was a {D:ward} of of little Bartows come along. Interviewer: Is that right? 117: And so she was miss Bartow. Interviewer: I see. 117: She's a the negroes come up miss Bartow oh miss Bartow. So I said miss Bartow. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: You're you're looking at a Interviewer: Alright. 117: A sort of halfway nigger man. Interviewer: Yeah well that's interesting is I think that's that's interesting to uh to see how that uh um that really enlarges your experience uh your uh your your use of of uh language. Now something you drink in the morning some people drink in the morning a cup of People have a cup of 117: What you talking about? Interviewer: Have a cup of 117: Coffee? Interviewer: Yeah and um if you're going to to prepare this you'd say I'm going to what some coffee? 117: I'm gonna make some coffee. Interviewer: Alright and you might you might be thirsty and go over to the sink and get a {NS} um turn the wat- turn and get yourself a {NS} something else you drink comes out of the faucet. 117: Water? Interviewer: Sure. You'd go over and get yourself a what of water? 117: You losing me in housekeeping. Interviewer: No this is just something if you went in to the kitchen if you were thirsty if you were thirsty you'd go into the kitchen and turn on the faucet and get yourself a 117: And get me some getting myself a drink of water. {C:pronunciation} Interviewer: Alright and you'd pour it into a 117: Pour it into a cup Interviewer: #1 Or a # 117: #2 is that what # Interviewer: A cup but it didn't have a handle on it might just be a 117: A glass? Interviewer: Sure. Um you'd say uh I didn't see the news tonight uh because the what was broken? The you you watch you might have radio or you might watch 117: Say I didn't see the news Interviewer: On what? 117: cause the television was broken. Interviewer: Okay. That's what you'd use if if uh uh um Alright and say I was thirsty so I I what some water I 117: Drank some water. Interviewer: Alright. And I have- twelve glasses already today I have really been thirsty I I have {NW} 117: You gone leave me on the {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {D:Gonna be a} relative come along in and uh I wasn't expecting anybody and he come in there and he made a sign Interviewer: Mm. 117: And I thought he wanted to go up to the toilet and and m- I hadn't zipped up my britches so I don't {X} {C:laughing} say I said well is it you or she wants to go I Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 I see # 117: #2 So that # So I don't get the sign Interviewer: #1 No. # 117: #2 to # Interviewer: But what I meant here was I said drink and I'd say Today I drink some water. Yesterday 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 I drank some water and # many times I have 117: Drank water. Interviewer: Okay that's all. 117: #1 {D:I} # Interviewer: #2 And then # 117: drunk it somewhere in there I would've drunk. Interviewer: Okay you might use that sure. Um. Invitation for people to sit down at a at a table. What would you tell someone you had some people over and then you had a big dinner on a table you might say. They're standing up 117: Have a seat. Interviewer: Okay and so then they all 117: Are seated. Interviewer: Alright so you'd say Uh he was standing up and then he what down he 117: Then he was seated. Interviewer: Yeah you could say he was seated or else or you could say he 117: #1 Sat down. # Interviewer: #2 uh # Uh okay. He what now? 117: {NW} He sat down. Interviewer: Alright. Um um 117: Sit down. Sat down. He sat down yeah. Interviewer: Alright uh how else might you say that? 117: Huh? Interviewer: How else might you say that? 117: Oh I might say that anytime. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: #1 {D: You} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 117: sat down. Interviewer: Alright. Um. What um uh If you're passing a passing a bowl of potatoes around the the table you might um give the bowl to someone and say What would you say to them? 117: {X} We at the table now? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: And you pass a bowl #1 around? # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 117: And maybe I don't want any is that what's Interviewer: #1 Alright yes # 117: #2 going on? # Interviewer: I want that too what would you say under those circumstances? 117: Well if they're passing them around and I want 'em I'd thank 'em if it If I didn't want 'em I'd say I don't believe I care for Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 {X} right now. # Interviewer: And if you were passing them around what might you say to someone to get their attention you might say 117: Say will you have some potatoes Interviewer: #1 That's it # 117: #2 {D: You gotta you gotta get} # {D:it out of} the bowl {D:well I got to get it out of that} {D:form of} {X} Interviewer: Okay um and if you had a big roast one day and Monday you're having the same thing you might say on Monday we're having 117: #1 Have # Interviewer: #2 what # 117: a big what? Interviewer: You had a big meal on one day you know and you didn't eat it all. And you were gonna eat the same thing the next day 117: #1 We had # Interviewer: #2 You'd say # 117: a feast. Interviewer: Yeah and so the next day you're eating 117: Uh we had a feast and the next day's a famine Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 and that's what I used. # Interviewer: But well what I was getting at was you call it warmed over food or left over food. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Would you call it warmed over food or left over food? 117: I believe we'd warm it over I believe we warmed ours over I would think. Interviewer: Okay and you put food in your mouth and you 117: I chaw it. Interviewer: Okay. And and you what it before you swallow it? 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 Today # Today I uh I chaw it yesterday I The past 117: #1 Well # Interviewer: #2 tense. # 117: Wait a minute I I masticated my food Interviewer: #1 Okay # 117: #2 so # Interviewer: you say masticated or 117: I masticated my food. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 {D:you just say} # I put some in my mouth and I didn't chaw it I masticated. Interviewer: Okay. But if you um talking about tobacco you'd say um today he chews tobacco yesterday he- 117: He chewed. Interviewer: Okay and 117: Tomorrow he'll continue chewing. Interviewer: Okay and day before yesterday he had already 117: Already chewed? Interviewer: Yeah. And now It's there's some things that you grow oh well you had a little a little piece of land out in the eh in the in the yard you might call it a patch uh where you'd grow things but you might call it something else. A little what? Especially in town. #1 More than not. # 117: #2 {D:I don't know} # in the yarn? You're talking about in the yarn? Interviewer: Yeah. Alright What would you call that out there? Yeah that's right what's the word? 117: I called it a garden. Interviewer: Alright. 117: I had a ga- I had a flower gardens. And I used to call it I used call it the garden. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And my nephew disliked my putting that Y- in there #1 yarn # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: and I Interviewer: Uh-huh 117: said you know better you ought not to say that but I Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: I had a flower garden. {C:pronunciation mixes garden and yard} Interviewer: Okay. 117: Still got it. Interviewer: Alright. And what else might you grow besides flowers? {D:to} grow grew a you know um 117: Well I wasn't too much on vegetables I I I grew a looking garden I didn't grow a eating garden. Interviewer: Okay. Now that's an interesting distinction. Uh what about a uh corn when they uh it's made of corn you take the when you take the um um uh husk off the corn or the the 117: You talking about a hominy? Interviewer: Right now what do you call 'em when it's ground? 117: It's meal when it's ground and it's hominy when you get those husks off and cook it. Interviewer: Alright. Uh how did you get how do you get the husks off? 117: You use lye to get the husks #1 off # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 117: and make hominy. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: Are you talking about husking and shelling it ain't it? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 Husking # and shelling the way you are talking Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 about it. # Interviewer: Yeah that's right. Um this is something else that's white. 117: Hmm? Interviewer: The something else that's uh white colored um that you eat it looks a little like hominy it's not hominy though it's not made of corn at all it's made of another grain that grows in the low countries. 117: #1 Rice # Interviewer: #2 especially # 117: rice Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 rice. # Interviewer: Now do you have a term for cheap whiskey? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Cheap whiskey. 117: Cheap whiskey. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: No I I don't rot gut I reckon. Interviewer: Okay how about homemade whiskey? 117: Moonshine's {D:yeah alright} Interviewer: Alright or any homemade beer? 117: I don't know nothing about that. I you you talking to a man that don't know about drinking. Interviewer: Okay. Um if um uh something was cooking you might say to someone just that just 117: If it smell good I say that smells mighty good. Interviewer: Okay. And um this is um uh something that um is made of sorghum {X} And when it gets thick I think you make it with sorghum. 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Sorghum is a kind of what? Sorghum is made in how is sorghum 117: Sorghum? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: That's what I said Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 you make # with that {D: surret} {D:back there} Interviewer: Right. 117: Sorghum is made out of The syrup is in the barrel we done passed him way back there Interviewer: #1 Right. # 117: #2 And you got # the spigot. Interviewer: Okay. 117: On the barrel. Interviewer: Okay. Now what about when that stuff is is uh gets very thick? What's that called? 117: What sorghum syrup Interviewer: Yeah. 117: When it gets thick? I don't know. Interviewer: Well what do you call that stuff that's thick and you have to pull it? You know it really gets some its a kind of another kind of syrup. Black stuff dark colored 117: You talking about molasses? Interviewer: Yeah. How is molasses made? 117: I don't know that's that's made down in the {D:town} I don't know nothing about Interviewer: #1 Oh # 117: #2 molasses. # Interviewer: okay. 117: I've sold it. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 That's all I know. # Interviewer: Would you say molasses is thick or molasses are thick? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: You're talking about molasses being thick You'd say this molasses is really thick or this molasses these molasses are thick? 117: I would say molasses is thick. Interviewer: Okay. #1 And if something # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Yeah go ahead. 117: Huh? Interviewer: No that's I was didn't want to interrupt you. 117: No that's that's that's what I'm gonna say I'm gonna say molasses is thick. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 I ain't gonna # say molasses are thick I'm gonna say molasses is thick. Interviewer: Okay. Um. If uh something isn't artificial. You know something isn't is this uh artificial leather you say no this is- 117: Genuine. Interviewer: Okay. And if you buy something in a store you might buy it in package or you might buy it in- You buy a lot of it you know you're not buying it you don't buy it um in a small package you you buy it in it's opened 117: Package you buy the piece I don't know. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 what you're # Interviewer: #1 Well I was # 117: #2 talking about # Interviewer: talking about bulk or bulk. {C:pronunciation} Bulk. 117: Bulk? Interviewer: Bulk or bulk. {C:pronunciation} Bulk sugar you know. 117: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. Interviewer: What's that? 117: Bulk is what you're talking Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 about. # Interviewer: Um. And something that you might put on toast you might put butter on toast and then over that you might put something made of uh of uh uh um um something you spread over it. 117: Oh a little jelly helps it. Interviewer: Okay. And you have two shakers on the table those are the 117: Shakers? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: That's for that's for salt and pepper I think. Interviewer: Alright. And if you were um if there were a bowl of apples on the table you might say to someone please what me an apple? Please- 117: Pass me an apple? Interviewer: Or gi- And so then the 117: Toss me a one? Interviewer: Yeah toss me one or gi- Or give. Or do you use the form give? Instead of toss you might say You might do you not say uh use the form give? 117: At the table we used to have to say {D:thanks for} so and so and then later on we got to so previously we'd say pass it. Interviewer: Okay well I was thinking of give me an apple. 117: {X} Interviewer: Um. Listen we're about um {NS} 117: {X} {C:heavy static in background} {D:in the library} {C:static} {X} {C:static} named uh missus {D:Witness} {NS} Interviewer: Sounds familiar I'm not 117: Her given name is Darling {X} {C: static} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And a year ago I was down at uh Americus that's where I {D:teach 'em} {X} {X} in the library I was Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {D:teaching English} # I wasn't {D:We were among folks} Interviewer: No. Do you have relatives in Americus? 117: Huh? Interviewer: You have relatives in Americus? 117: Well I was down there at {D:the horseshoe} {D:until I learned how} #1 {D:you get} # Interviewer: #2 Oh I see. # 117: {D:to being home} {X} I thought I'd see missus {D: Humphert} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: I was very fond of the whole {X} leadership but when I got there in June she had died in March. Interviewer: Oh I see. {NW} {NS} 117: Do you go down to Americus much? Interviewer: Well we're gonna get uh we're going to have to work down there I was I was 117: #1 I I could # Interviewer: #2 {D:on the fifth} # 117: talk about Albany {D:do you want to go over} Interviewer: Yeah Albany and Americus both right. {NS} You know some people down there? 117: I I I I know a {D:pretty little} {D:store} {D:to be} {D:Alicia} {D:and she don't mind} {X} Interviewer: Is that right? 117: {D:That's all I think} {NS} Who did you say you worked with over in Carcoll County? Interviewer: Uh I haven't I'm looking for somebody in Carroll County to uh the interview. 117: #1 Who did you # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # 117: meet with down there about the whiskey or something? Somebody along that way. Interviewer: Oh that was in Tallapoosa that was uh um in uh that was the the 117: That's Haralson County. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 Tallapoosa # Interviewer: #1 Yeah. Right right. # 117: #2 in Haralson. # Interviewer: But he uh he was his name was um um Howe I think. And he was a retired postmaster in Tallapoosa. And I was I was over there about a month ago and interviewed him. 117: Mm. Well I I {X} I was a {X} {D:around a} plow boy. Interviewer: Uh-huh well that's great. That's that's fine yep um. {NS} Uh. Talking before about um distances you know um a short distance and a long distance and say it's right it's not it's not far it's it's right- In that direction you might say oh it's right- 117: Over yonder. Interviewer: Okay but Uh yonder or a really uh uh 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 uh # uh 117: Yonder {X} yonder. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: But no I I never did we didn't say that. I I I don't know too much about Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 {X} # All uh all my directions are {X} that I got from {X} Interviewer: Is that right huh? 117: Cause Miss Bartow didn't allow us to talk that way. Interviewer: I {NW} #1 {NW} {C:laughing} # 117: #2 I I never did # did see nobody I I always saw 'em but I never seen 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: #1 You know he # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 117: course I I seen him. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: But I never did seen nobody. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: I saw him but it wasn't necessary to saw him. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. So your mother wasn't didn't wouldn't let you uh uh use those expressions that's a 117: Huh? She made us walk the straight and narrow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And she had a way of doing it listen She didn't have course I I I can share a little piece {X} all right. Interviewer: {NW} 117: but uh {NS} she didn't make us ashamed of our heritage. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: I {NS} if we we didn't there correctly {X} {D:the old question} if they said anything we'd say oh it wasn't that way it was this way. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 {D:Cause} # they called Dave {D: Elding} I remember in Whitman they called Dave {D: Elding} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {X} # Just saying well there you go Dave {D: Elding} when she Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: She had put {X} Interviewer: What does that mean? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What does that mean? 117: Well Dave {D: Elding} was a notorious fellow correcting {D:most} on everything she said and uh {D:parents} and so when I said so she had some things like that She just didn't pronounce well. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NW} 117: And uh she'd call certain things and uh if we were messy about our eating she'd call us {D: Annis Hagler} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: {D: Annis Hagler} {D:was a was a was a} was messy around the table. #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 117: She used to she had a way of making {D:us uh} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: for the lord. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call the hard center of a cherry? 117: I call it the it's a pit. If you don't know what it is it's I call it a stone though. Interviewer: Okay and what about the hard center of a peach? 117: Well I {X} Peach seed is all I know. Interviewer: Alright and what do you call a peach that separates easily from the seed? 117: It's a {X} {X} Interviewer: Alright and how about one that does not separate easily? 117: It's a {D:plum} {X} Interviewer: Alright. 117: Oh {X} that's what that that {X} is is Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 what the # {D:nurse one} used. Interviewer: I see. 117: You haven't turned anything on this and hope that's the {X} Interviewer: No it's it's fine. 117: I thought the {X} Interviewer: I turned it on. 117: You did Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 alright. # Interviewer: Um. The uh center of an apple is called what? 117: The core ain't gonna be no core. Interviewer: Okay. And what about these nuts that grow underground you mentioned before? 117: Oh you talking about peanuts? Interviewer: Yeah. What else you call them? 117: goober noobers Interviewer: Okay. Now this is a kind of nut that grows in a tree that has a a big husk around it a big green when it's ripening it has a big green soft covering and then underneath that is a hard covering. 117: Are you talking about a hickory nut or chestnut or what {X} Interviewer: No what one more. Black- 117: Black walnut? Interviewer: Alright. Now {NW} 117: Or the Chinkapin Interviewer: Alright. Uh what do you call the hard covering of a of a of a over a a walnut? 117: A what? Interviewer: The hard covering over a walnut. 117: The walnut? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: I never did hear a name for it. Interviewer: Really well you see when you get the walnut out you know so you can eat it you have to take off the 117: Oh you {D:pass it up} {X} {X} {X} {D:walnuts} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {X} # {D:But I had to hear that} Interviewer: So the outer part's a hull would you {X} is the the soft part the hull? 117: I never did hear a name for it. Interviewer: Okay. Um if uh and this is a fruit that grows in Florida. Uh you drink the juice. It's a fruit. 117: #1 What you talking # Interviewer: #2 Grows in # 117: about a grapefruit? Interviewer: Well this is something like a grapefruit only it's smaller. 117: A lime? Interviewer: One what's another citrus fruit? 117: What you talking about an orange? Interviewer: Sure. 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 117: to that. Interviewer: Yeah that's right sure. And and the plural of that is what? They 117: What? Interviewer: The more than one orange. 117: You have two oranges. Interviewer: Okay. And these are little little vegetables that grow underground they're 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 red # 117: a radishes? Interviewer: Yeah and then and then this is uh something larger that grows on a vine. In the garden. 117: Grows on a vine. Interviewer: Yeah these grow on vines and then they're um you have to put a stick in the ground sometimes 117: You talking about tomatoes? Interviewer: Yeah. Um and these grow underground uh and they're sometimes about this big there are different kinds some are white and some are kind of orange or red inside 117: What you talking about turnips or uh Interviewer: Uh 117: sweet potatoes? Interviewer: Okay. That's now what um what other kinds of potatoes are there besides sweet potatoes? 117: There's white potatoes. Or Irish potatoes. Interviewer: Alright. 117: #1 We call them # Interviewer: #2 Do you ever use # 117: Irish taters. Interviewer: Okay. Di- did you uh uh um did you ever use the expression the term yams? 117: Yams is a {D:correct} Yams is {X} {D:well yeah} yams. Interviewer: Alright. And what do you call these vegetables that when you cut them they make your eyes water? 117: What you talking about an onion? {C:pronunciation} Interviewer: Alright now what different kinds are there? 117: {NW} Interviewer: Come on. 117: {NW} {D:I don't know} {X} {D:I say} {X} Interviewer: Right. 117: #1 You got # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 117: some red onions some white ones and you got a little nest onion that's a sweet little onion. Interviewer: Okay. 117: Grows in in {X} I'd say Interviewer: Okay- 117: We'd call them {X} onions. Interviewer: Alright. Um to take uh take beans {X} Some beans you have to to break open uh when you do when you're doing that what are you doing to the beans? Taking the covering off so you can eat them. 117: You mean when you {D:fishing for} {X} Interviewer: Yeah. 117: You spring 'em. Interviewer: Alright now that's one kind of bean where you spring 'em the long bean. What do you call those long beans? You might call them string beans but you you have any other name for them? 117: Uh I just just knew 'em as beans. {X} We didn't {D:and} lots of {D:folks} called them string beans {X} Interviewer: We just called them beans okay. What about um the kind 117: #1 {D:Cause} # Interviewer: #2 kind # 117: we had two different types at home. We had bunch beans and whole beans. And whole beans is a {D:group} They were {D:running} beans that had longer beans. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 {X} # Grew 'em in groups and they were cured at a later season. Interviewer: Alright. What about the bunch beans? 117: Well bunch beans is uh At first you {D:get} and then you {D:heat} {D:your heat} comes early. You get the bunch beans right quick and then you {D:flash the} whole beans and then they fruit at a later time. Interviewer: Alright what do you call when but you know some of these beans uh There are some kinds of beans that you that you have to break the shells off. And in order to eat them You don't eat the sh- {NW} {C:distortion} Interviewer: They had hiss in there. {NS} {NW} Okay. Now uh {NS} {C:loud crashing sound} Uh you talking about the lima beans or butter beans when you take them out of the uh um uh take them out of their uh coverings. What do you say you're doing to the beans? 117: Shelling them is all I know. Interviewer: Okay that's fine. Now um what do you call the edible tops of turnips? 117: Call them greens. Interviewer: Okay. Um did you ever call it anything else? 117: {NW} I never say salad. Interviewer: Okay. That uh that wasn't uh common around here. 117: Huh? Interviewer: That wasn't common in your 117: #1 {D:We really didn't use it} # Interviewer: #2 your household. # 117: cut up greens is what we Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 called it. # To distinguish the term green from a collard. Interviewer: I see. But you'd call them all greens. I mean collars or turnips or 117: Yeah they'd be collared greens and turnip greens yeah. Cabbage. Interviewer: Okay. And if you have one head of lettuce and you add two more you have three what? 117: Three heads of lettuce. Interviewer: Alright and the on the outer on an ear of corn the part that you take off is called the what? 117: We call that the shuck or the husk. Interviewer: Okay 117: #1 The shuck # Interviewer: #2 and # 117: we called it. Interviewer: Corn served on the cob what do you call that? 117: {D:In regular use} {D:it just may be} boiled corn {X} Interviewer: Okay and the top of a corn stalk that you have to remove is called the what? 117: What's that? Interviewer: The top of a corn stalk. 117: {D:Above the shuck} that's the tassel. Interviewer: Alright and on an ear of corn that fine 117: That that's the silk that's that's female uh organ. Interviewer: Okay. 117: The shuck. Interviewer: Alright. That's a female what? 117: Female oh this is an ear of corn. Interviewer: I see. Um the um 117: You see the part that is up there on the the top. Interviewer: {NW} 117: And it's that silk and that that's the female organs {D:and they develop to} {X} Interviewer: Oh I see I didn't know that. Um the um these are large things that grow out in the fields and children at Halloween they they break 117: You talking about a turnip? I mean a pumpkin? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 And now # this is something else like a pumpkin that um uh it's they're smaller. 117: A cashaw. Interviewer: Yeah and what are some of these others called other kinds of of gourd like things. Some of them are very small? 117: You talking about a squash? Interviewer: Right. Now what different kinds of those are there? 117: I I don't know about that. We didn't we didn't grow those Interviewer: #1 Alright # 117: #2 kinds of things. # I grew pumpkins but we didn't Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 grow those # Interviewer: #1 What kinds of # 117: #2 uh # Interviewer: melons grow uh 117: Huh? Interviewer: What kinds of melons. 117: Oh we had a muskmelon and a cantaloupe and a watermelon and that's all. Interviewer: How does a cantaloupe differ from a muskmelon? 117: Cantaloupe it's that smaller it's a small veined thing you catch in a at the {D:store leaving} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 117: #2 {D:cantaloupe} # Interviewer: I see has a vein has a stripes on it. #1 Is that # 117: #2 That's right # it has uh {D:some little} some ridges. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 It has # ridges. A mushmelon was a bigger melon and {NW} its outside husk would be smooth sometimes. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 Each is a different # type different type is to to the shape of 'em. Interviewer: I see. What um uh what kinds of watermelon did you grow or are you familiar with what varieties of watermelon? 117: #1 {D:No No I don't know} # Interviewer: #2 Do you remember any of the names of # 117: I wasn't a watermelon grower but you had a yellow meat and then you had a had a red meat Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And then you had that little {D:Six bus of seamen} that would come up and volunteer on {D:field that was the best one of all} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Um. And then what do you call these little things that uh that grow uh some of them are uh you can't be eaten uh and some of them can they look like little umbrellas. 117: {D:Got a little stamen} you call it? Is that what you're talking about? Interviewer: No now that's a squash isn't it. {D:It's similar} 117: I want to say {X} Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 {D:but I'm willing} # Interviewer: But no I'm thinking of something these are little things that they stand about this high. And uh they look like little umbrellas. They stand 117: You talking about mushrooms? Interviewer: Yeah. Now what do you call the the ones that can't be eaten the poisonous ones? 117: Well it's just a mushroom. {D:You know one you know them all} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Have you ever heard of a toadstool #1 or a frog's # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: A toadstool 117: Oh yeah yeah I've heard of 'em called a toadstool but those are mushrooms. Interviewer: Okay. And if a person has something in his throat you'd say he couldn't- 117: Got a frog in his throat. Interviewer: Yeah or he he was unable to he couldn't 117: Talk? Interviewer: Well he couldn't get it down you'd say he couldn't 117: Couldn't swallow a frog? #1 I don't know # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 117: nothing about that. Interviewer: Alright. And uh things that people smoke the two the two things people smoke most. This addition to a pipe they smoke 117: Pipe and cigarette and cigars? Interviewer: Alright. And um uh if um. You think someone should know something. Um would you say uh he ought to know it or he had ought to know it? 117: {NS} Interviewer: #1 Which sounds more # 117: #2 {NS} # I'd say he ought to know it I didn't say he had ought to. Interviewer: Alright and what about the negative of that? If 117: He does not know it. Interviewer: Alright how how about hadn't ought to? Or ought not to know it? 117: I'd say he does not know it #1 {D:I don't} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # And if uh someone asked you um will you do that? And the answer is no You say no. Will you do that you? You'd say no I- 117: Will not. Interviewer: Or I simply no I won't. 117: I'd say no I will not. Interviewer: Alright. Um someone says can you help me and you're not sure you'd say well I- be able to help you. 117: Maybe so. Interviewer: Okay. How about might? Or might could? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: The expression might could I might could do it. 117: I wouldn't might do. Interviewer: Alright. 117: I wouldn't do I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't put might in on mine. Interviewer: Alright. Um what do you call these birds that make a hooting sound? 117: I call them hoot owls. Interviewer: Alright are there any other kinds of owls besides hoot owls? 117: Yeah. {NS} There's a screech owl. Interviewer: Alright. How does that differ from a hoot owl? 117: A hoot owl is a big old owl. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And a screech owl is a smaller owl. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Alright. Now um are there any other kinds of owls? Besides those two are those the only two that you're 117: That's the only ones I ever made the acquaintance of. Interviewer: Okay. Um what do you call these birds that get up in trees and um um peck for um uh insects? 117: Woodpeckers? Interviewer: Alright. Um you ever call them anything else? 117: Well I you got uh {X} woodpeckers. You got uh what we has was a big old red headed woodpecker he is extinct. Then you had a {D:yellow hallow} that one. And then you had a sapsucker which was a speckled {X} Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 You # had three types of {X} as I knew it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: With dig holes and then them dig in your trees and then making that sound. Interviewer: Okay. 117: Does that cover? Interviewer: That's yeah that's fine. What do you call these animals that uh give off a bad odor? 117: Skunk? You talking about a polecat? Interviewer: Right. Alright. And what uh can you what is a general word that people use for all kinds of uh troublesome animals? 117: Varmints. Interviewer: Alright what do they what does that include? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What does that include? 117: Varmints? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: {NS} Well that includes {X} possum as far as I presume. Interviewer: Okay it's mainly opossum huh? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Mainly possums huh? 117: Aw {D:any climate there's a} {D:in Georgia} it's a different {X} whatever you can call it you know what I'm trying to say. Interviewer: Troubles yeah it causes 117: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 yeah. # 117: all of 'em are varmints. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Alright do you ever use that in relating to people? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Do you ever use that term uh applying apply that term to people? 117: They're varmints? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: It could be. Interviewer: {NW} Alright. How uh what do you call these uh these little creatures that run around in trees and gather nuts? 117: What? Interviewer: These little things that um that run around in trees. 117: You talking about little squirrels? Interviewer: Yeah now what kinds of those are there? 117: Oh I don't know. They're all pesky to me. They all rodents. Interviewer: Alright. Do you have a name for those um for for the little ones that don't go up in trees that just run around the ground they're 117: They're they're ground squirrels or a chipmunk or chipmunks. Interviewer: Okay. And these things have hard shells um and sometimes pearls are found in them. 117: You talking about a terrapin? Interviewer: Uh no I'm going to get to that though uh uh what what's uh what distinctions do you make um uh among those those creatures? 117: I didn't get that. Interviewer: Well among you said terrapins now uh do they do they live in land or water? 117: Oh you got turtles in the water and terrapins on top of the ground I {X} Interviewer: Okay. Now this is something else this isn't a terrapin or a turtle this is something uh more like a clam that {NW} that lives in the water and uh sometimes a pearl is found in it. 117: Oh I think that's an oyster that's the animal I know nothing about Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 that. # Interviewer: How about these things that hop around and make a croaking sound? 117: Frog? Interviewer: Yeah now what any different kinds of those? 117: Well you got a toad frog and a bullfrog and you got some little bitty frogs and you got all sorts of Interviewer: #1 Right. # 117: #2 frogs. # Interviewer: Now do you have any names for those little ones? 117: I never could never did see but two or three of 'em. Those little things Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 in # in the spring of the year they're singing and you get {D:tired of that quick} but they're little bitty green Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: frogs. Interviewer: And no special name for them though? 117: I never heard the name. Interviewer: The rain frog or tree frog or something like that. 117: A rain frog supposed to be in trees he's he's he's not that little bitty one I'm talking about. Interviewer: I see. Those little 117: #1 The rain frog I # Interviewer: #2 {D:ones} # 117: {X} tree frog I don't know nothing about Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 that. # Interviewer: I've heard those little ones called peepers. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Peepers. 117: Well I I never heard Interviewer: Alright. Now these things that uh crawl around under the ground sometimes on top of the ground 117: #1 Are moles? # Interviewer: #2 and use # Yeah these no these are things you use for bait. 117: Hmm? Interviewer: These things you use for bait when you're fishing. 117: Talking about worms those or night crawlers those Interviewer: Alright. Yeah. Now would you just would you use any other words besides just worms or night crawlers? 117: Wigglers I'd say wigglers. Interviewer: Alright. Now um these things grow uh live in the water and they they they seem to move backwards. {NS} 117: They do what? Interviewer: They move backwards they have hard shells. 117: {D:All I} {NW} You talking about a crawfish. Interviewer: Right. And these things fly around uh attracted to to light and they fly on they get into your uh to your clothes they sometimes eat holes in your clothing. 117: What you talking about bats? Interviewer: Not these are are more more like butterflies. They're not butterflies but they're more they're they're more like butterflies than bats. But they fly around and they get into cloth and they eat cloth. 117: Moths? Interviewer: Yeah what would just one of 'em be called? One- 117: Moths? Interviewer: Yeah. That's plural now what would just one of 'em be called? 117: I would just put an S on and call it moths. Interviewer: Yeah and how about just one though? 117: One's a moth. Interviewer: Alright. And uh what is and these little things that fly around you see 'em in the summertime in the night and they light up. 117: Lightning bug. Interviewer: Alright. And these are long slender creatures above uh in- flying insects that you sometimes see sitting on top of a pole. The or around water. In the country. 117: {D:I never} {D:met any of} Interviewer: No I was thinking of something like either a snake doctor or a or um mosquito hawk or a 117: Oh. Interviewer: dragonfly something 117: Dragonfly he ain't he ain't got no light to him. Had he? Interviewer: No. 117: {NW} Yeah I've seen snake doctor I've got skin of it. Interviewer: Okay. Now would you name some other kinds of stinging insects? {NS} 117: Stinging insects? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: There's plenty of 'em. Interviewer: Alright name a few. 117: Well you got your hornets and you got the yellow jackets. And you got your bees. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And there is a stinging scorpion I think that they called him he he's a queer looking thing and he's got his tail comes up that's where Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 he'll sting ya # I think that's what's called stinging scorpion. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. This is something this is some there's another kind though besides hornets and bees and yellow jackets. The brown ones. {NS} 117: Wasps? Interviewer: Yeah. Is that plural or singular? 117: Huh? Interviewer: The plural. Of that. 117: #1 {D:Say again} # Interviewer: #2 Two # 117: #1 It's gonna be wasp. # Interviewer: #2 two # Yeah. That's is that just one isn't it? That's just one of those insects. 117: I said well a wasp nest I I wouldn't know what #1 {D:if i had} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 117: I wouldn't know how to Interviewer: Alright. 117: find two. Interviewer: Okay. 117: Two wasps. {C:pronunciation} Interviewer: Okay. Alright. Uh what about um uh a um um did you ever hear a name for some of these wasps that do not sting? 117: What? Interviewer: The ones that don't sting? That build nests out of mud? 117: There's a certain kind of a you got a carpenter bee a bumble bee and you got one that don't and I don't believe he stings. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: One one bumblebee that don't sting. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: That's the only thing I know. Interviewer: Okay I was thinking of a dirt dauber. 117: Huh? Interviewer: A dirt dauber. 117: Don't he sting? Interviewer: I don't I don't know. Do you think 117: I don't know either I had to get up and tear his nest down. Interviewer: Uh what's that? 117: I said all I know is tear his nest down. Interviewer: Whose nest? 117: Oh dirt dauber he makes his nest and fills it full of {X} I believe. Interviewer: Okay. Um now this is a kind of a stinging insect that draws blood. {NS} It does what? Draws blood? 117: Oh. Interviewer: It's a little very oh sure you do they come in the summer they they sting ya and you get a a welt that itches. 117: You talking about a mosquito. Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} Yeah. Now is that one or two? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Is that one or two you're talking about there? 117: I just put an S to make it plural. Interviewer: And what's that then? {NS} That's right no what what's the word? 117: I just add an S to it and then Interviewer: #1 Yeah but I mean # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: say it let's see that I want you to say the word not 117: Saying two mosquitoes that keep me up. Interviewer: Okay alright fine. Now uh these things hop around in the grass an insect. 117: {NW} Interviewer: They're kind of green. {NS} 117: You talking about a grasshopper? Interviewer: Sure. 117: Oh my lord these these gals over buy grasshopper {X} sometimes #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C:Laughing} # {NW} {C:Laughing} 117: I see them every day on the street. Interviewer: Yeah. Um now what do you call little fish that are used for bait? 117: Minnows. Interviewer: Alright and um a um something um made uh by a spider. 117: A web. Interviewer: Alright would you call it the same thing indoors or out? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Would you call it the same thing whether it's in a house or outside? 117: I think just a web's a web either way you put it. Interviewer: Alright how about the parts of a tree that are underground? 117: That's the roots. Interviewer: And the and the tree 117: The trunk of the tree and then the limbs. Interviewer: Right. And this is the part of the tree that um that the you get uh the kind of tree that you get syrup from. 117: Maple. Interviewer: Alright. And if there were uh if there were a number of these trees together in a in a group you what would you call that? A number of maple trees. 117: We we don't have any we don't have that don't forget that down here that's a Northern Interviewer: Okay sure what kinds of trees are there around here then? 117: There's {X} trees. Interviewer: Yeah just yeah just some of the local trees. 117: Well we've got several types of oaks. We've got a red oak and a white oak and a post oak that's three distinct and got a blackjack that's four. {NS} And we had one of these old Spanish oak that's what I thought the negroes told me it was. A Spanish oak Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 it's # a sleek bark. It's this big one one of those ones. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: All different classifications. Interviewer: What's a blackjack? 117: He's a little old old growing thing {X} {D:on on a raw pole and} you and when you go down here about um {NS} the fall line {D:in Georgia} you'll find plenty of old blackjacks {D:around Taylor County} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 All down # in there you'll find {D:plenty of old} {D: scrubbings} {D:And they} they actually don't grow to be tall. Their leaves are very ordinary tree. Interviewer: Is it a kind of oak? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Is it a kind of 117: It's a blackjack oak. Interviewer: I see. Um how what kinds of fruit trees name a few different kinds of fruit trees whether they grow here or not. 117: Well we had peaches and apples and pears and and plums and that's just about Interviewer: What did George Washington cut down? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What did George Washington supposedly cut down? 117: He cut down a cherry tree. Interviewer: Okay and this a kind of uh 117: I forgot cherry but they don't they They used to flourish here but they don't flourish Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {D:out here in} # {D: Troup} We had three in our home that big #1 {D:when I was} # Interviewer: #2 Is that # 117: {D:Christmas} at that farm. Interviewer: Is that so. Um what um uh this is a more like a almost more like a bush than a tree. And it has great big in the in the it has it has I think it has large leaves and in the um uh in the um uh fall it becomes a very bright red. It's very beautiful. Uh tree. 117: You mean like a you're not talking about a {X} Interviewer: No. No I was thinking of either sumac or shoemake. 117: Oh. You you you you mean like {D:left those with} {D:all the} {D:full leaves} now? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: A Shoemake's supposed to be a red {X} one #1 yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Now this is a kind of vine that you get uh a rash from 117: Talking about uh poison oak? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Is that the only kind or is there something else like that? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Can you think of something else similar to that? 117: Well you got some {D:poison} on you but uh You have Thunderwood which is a shrub. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: He's here it'll burn ya up. Interviewer: I see. Well I was thinking of poison ivy. 117: Oh I We call ours poison oak. But it don't bother me. Interviewer: I see. And if you were out in the woods with some children they were picking berries You might say to them you'd better be careful now because some of those berries are 117: Snake berries? Is that what you call 'em? Interviewer: Well these just you just want them to know that not to eat the berries. And you'd say {X} #1 for the reason # 117: #2 {X} # There there is a berry that'll sting in my place out there. We always called them snake berries. Don't eat them. Interviewer: Yeah. Well I was gonna say what now with Why don't you eat them? 117: We always heard that they'd kill you. Interviewer: Alright and if so they'd kill you you'd say such berries that would kill you you'd say are what? 117: Poison. Interviewer: Right. And um uh what other kinds of what kinds of edible berries grow around here? 117: Well we had it blackberries and raspberries and the strawberries. Interviewer: Okay. Um this is something that um a kind of um uh it's a tree. Uh has a a a big bright shiny leaf and it has a {X} very large white flowers. On it. 117: There's a big broad leaf. Interviewer: Yeah it has a big heavy shiny deep dark green leaf and it has large white flowers. 117: You talking about a magnolia? Interviewer: Yeah. Now can you think of something else similar to a magnolia that doesn't have the flowers though? 117: Well your your poplar has a somewhat magnolia like. Because it tulip {D:poplar} Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 117: #2 {D:I think} # Poplar it has sort of a little thing more like a little tulip and it's a Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And it makes seed {D:then} Interviewer: Well I was thinking of either a mountain laurel or a rhododendron if you're familiar with either of those. {NS} 117: Well I don't know nothing about mountain laurel I've seen it but since it's poison and {X} so I never was any Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: How about rhododendron? 117: I don't know I don't know that. Interviewer: Alright. A woman talking about uh the man she's married to she says I must ask my- 117: My husband. {D:My} Interviewer: And yes and he would speak speaking of her he'd say I must ask my- 117: What's that? Interviewer: Yeah what would be the reverse? So what what would the man say of the women? 117: I got to ask my wife. Interviewer: Right. 117: And I never wasn't willing to. Interviewer: Okay. {C:Laughing} Okay. Um uh your male parent is your- 117: Your father. Interviewer: And what did you call your father when you were 117: What'd I call mine? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: I called him papa. Interviewer: Alright and your female parent- 117: She was mama. Interviewer: Okay. And the the full expression is- 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Yeah but the mama is the the short form what's the full form? 117: My mama as use the French use the French version. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 My mom. # Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 My mama. # Interviewer: But just in English 117: #1 Huh? # Interviewer: #2 the full # He's your father and she is your- 117: {D:Well} {D:now I} {NS} Mother was my grandmother. Interviewer: #1 Oh I see. # 117: #2 As I would call # {D:her home} mother mother. Interviewer: I see so you'd call 117: And and see mother was my grandmother. Interviewer: I see. {NS} I see. How about your um uh your um um your male grandparent. 117: He was grandfather. Interviewer: Alright. And together your mother and your father are your- {NS} 117: Huh? Interviewer: Together your mother and your father are your- 117: {D:Well now} I I would've said pa and mother. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 They didn't say maw. # Interviewer: Yeah. No I didn't mean anything you just talked about their relationship to you you'd say they're your what? 117: #1 My grandparents. # Interviewer: #2 Your mother # 117: #1 My parents # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 117: and #1 grandparents yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # And a person's offspring are his- 117: Children. Interviewer: Alright. And a and something you take a child out for a a uh take {X} put a baby in women take the baby and puts it in this and takes it outside for a walk. 117: Got to change his clothes? Interviewer: No just something to to walk him around in outside. If you saw a women walking with a baby outside in in one of these things what would you call that thing she's 117: I wouldn't call it I Interviewer: I mean would you call it a baby carriage or a a baby buggy 117: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 that sort of thing. # 117: You didn't tell me you sit him up in the Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 carriage # hell you've answered your own question. Interviewer: Okay well I didn't know which word you'd use. Uh and a person doing that would you say she's wheeling the baby rolling the baby or riding the baby? {NS} 117: I'd say she's pushing the carriage. Interviewer: Okay. Um and a female offspring is a- 117: daughter Interviewer: And she's not a boy but a- 117: Gal. Interviewer: Alright or uh another way of saying that. 117: A female. Interviewer: Yeah. Is a 117: {D:You want me to say} Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 {D:a female} # or something else? Interviewer: No well I mean now is that the only way you'd say that word? Other than gal? 117: Girl Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 you got # a lassy Interviewer: Alright yeah 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 fine. And # A woman who assists in the birth of a child is called a- 117: Say she's expecting one. Interviewer: Yeah but no there's a woman a woman has is expecting a baby immediately 117: #1 {D:She's} # Interviewer: #2 and she might call # 117: #1 She's # Interviewer: #2 ca- # 117: an expectant #1 mother # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 117: she's pregnant. Interviewer: Yeah and she calls a woman in the neighborhood to come over and assist with the birth of the child what's that woman called? Woman in the neighborhood who isn't a professional doctor. She isn't the physician. 117: Oh you talking about um midwife. You talking about a midwife? Interviewer: Right. Um and if a boy has um uh facial features very similar to his father um you might say the boy does what his father? 117: The boy's a what? Interviewer: He has facial features very similar to his father. {NS} 117: Then you said what {D:what did you what what} Interviewer: #1 Yeah well # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: what what word would you use there would you say he resembles his father uh 117: #1 I I I # Interviewer: #2 favors his father # 117: I'd go back to dialect I'd say {D:he's the very spirit} of his daddy. Interviewer: Okay. Fine. Um and now if this referred to his to his looks or his behavior. {NS} 117: That's his looks. His behavior is I don't even know about. Interviewer: Alright. And if a ch- you might say to a child if you don't behave yourself you're going to get a- 117: Spanking. Interviewer: Alright. And um {NS} Let's say um um a little boy um uh to go from a little to be go from a little boy to a man you'd say that the little boy did what? He- 117: He {X} Interviewer: Yeah or he grew {NS} 117: Grew to manhood? Interviewer: Yeah but you'd say now he's all- {NS} He's fully grown now so you'd say Would you say he's all what up? 117: Grown up? Interviewer: Sure. You'd say it seems like in no time he- 117: Seems {D:about the time} he's grown up? Interviewer: Yeah. {NS} I just meant it and so you might say about him you might say he did what in a hurry? He {NS} He grew up I mean or growed up. He grew up or growed up in a hurry you see. {NS} 117: Well he grew up in a hurry. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: I let him grew up. Interviewer: Okay. Um How about terms for an infant? born out of wedlock {NS} 117: He's a little bastard. Interviewer: Okay any other names. 117: Yeah he's a little volunteer. Interviewer: Alright. Anything else? 117: That's enough for it. Interviewer: Okay. And a child whose parents are dead is a- 117: Well he's he's a little love child too now that's what I call 'em #1 one of those. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # I see. Alright and a and a um 117: Parents he's an orphan. Interviewer: Alright and a and if um an orphan uh s- the court if the court appoints someone to take care of an orphan you call that person a- 117: Guardian. Interviewer: Alright. And all of the people related to you you call them your- 117: Call them my kin. Interviewer: Alright and um would that be immediate or uh and distant relatives all your relatives you'd call your kin. 117: That that kinship would include include all of 'em but uh the the degree would come later. Interviewer: I see. And then you if you'd say speaking of of someone not having any relationship to someone else you might say he is what to her? He is- 117: He's what? Interviewer: He is to say he he has no he's not a blood relative. {NS} Of uh of her. Of a girl you'd say so you'd say he is no what Would you say he is no kin to her or he is no uh relation to her? He is not related to her or he's 117: No kin would be alright. You see I I got no I have no close kin. That's factual. Interviewer: Okay. Um what uh uh a person born in another country you'd call him a what? 117: Call him a foreigner. Interviewer: Alright. And what does that word mean does that is that limited to people born in other countries? Or also for people from different parts of this country? 117: Well {D:I vote for} {D:Bill Beasy} {D:he's fallen} {X} {X} Southerners so that's where I got it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And the mother of Jesus her name was- 117: Mary. Interviewer: And George Washington's wife? 117: Named Martha. Interviewer: And the song Wait Till the Sun Shines 117: What? Interviewer: There was a song some time ago in which uh the words wait till the sun shine 117: shine Nellie and the clouds go drifting #1 by # Interviewer: #2 Right. # Okay. And the first book of the New Testament is- Right before Mark. 117: Matthew Mark Luke and John. Interviewer: Right. And um a man's name is um a man Mr. Cooper his wife'd be? 117: What's that? Interviewer: Man's name Mr. Cooper his wife's name would be- 117: Mrs. Cooper. Interviewer: Alright. And do you have a name for a part time or unqualified preacher? {NS} 117: He was licensed. Interviewer: Yeah but if he wasn't even licensed he just went around uh 117: That's illegal now right? Interviewer: Yeah. How about um uh the term jack leg does that have any currency? 117: #1 {D:Oh} # Interviewer: #2 Around here? # 117: common {X} Interviewer: What does that mean? 117: Jack leg well if you that's not rating him very high. Interviewer: Alright. Is that limited to preachers or do you use that 117: No you have jack legs in any profession. Interviewer: For example. {NS} 117: I think a little jack legged lawyers. Interviewer: Alright. Um do you have a uh uh what would you call a in in school a a female teacher? 117: What's that? Interviewer: A female teacher in school. 117: Well it's nothing but a female teacher. Interviewer: Yeah if if well if you had a female teacher would you have a special name for her? Like a school something? 117: I don't know there used to be something about seminaries. I don't know what you're Interviewer: #1 No I didn't # 117: #2 talking # Interviewer: mean that I meant it like a school ma'am or a schoolmarm. 117: Schoolmarm was who ma'am would be Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: the way that'll go. Interviewer: And if you're talking to a um a relative of yours and you point to a man over there you'd say that man over there he's your uncle. And his wife she's- 117: My aunt. Of course. Interviewer: Yeah. But not my but talking to you're talking to another person. You're explaining this relationship to another person. You'd say he is your uncle and she is- 117: She is my uncle's wife yeah. Interviewer: Alright. Um {NS} And um the uh the name Sally is a nickname for- 117: Sarah. Interviewer: Alright. And the highest rank in the army is- 117: Now buddy I don't know unless it's a general. Interviewer: That's all I want. And the man who presides over a trial is a- 117: Judge. Interviewer: And the uh person attending school is a- 117: Student. Interviewer: And a woman who takes dictation in an office? {NS} 117: She used to be a stenographer I don't know what she is Interviewer: #1 Alright # 117: #2 now. # Interviewer: a stenographer was one who takes dictation but one who does other kind of work in an office would be a what? A pri- a person might have a private 117: Secretary I reckon. Interviewer: Alright and the man on a stage is an actor what's a woman called? 117: A man does what? Interviewer: On a stage a performer on a stage would be called an actor. 117: Yeah. Interviewer: What would a woman be #1 called? # 117: #2 She's an # actress. Interviewer: Alright. And talking about someone's nationality you'd say uh he is a Mexican but I am- 117: I am an American. Right and a person with black skin is a- He's a nigger. Interviewer: Alright any other words? Any other terms? 117: Mm? Interviewer: Are there any other terms that uh uh you're familiar with? For a Black man? Yeah. 117: Well they think they're supposed to be called Black men or African and I don't want Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 117: #2 to. # Interviewer: But are there any any any humorous or contemptuous terms that you uh you're familiar with? Besides those? 117: I don't get what you're trying Interviewer: Well I mean are there any other terms besides nigger that uh you might use in to to to um uh to refer to uh to a a person with black skin. {NS} 117: No. We knew 'em as niggers and then {NS} knew 'em and loved 'em. We called 'em niggers and we knew 'em and we loved 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {D:As niggers isn't it} It don't in our day it didn't have the significance that it carries today. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about people with white skin? 117: Huh? Interviewer: People that with with uh light skin with white skin what are they called? 117: They're called cashews is all I know. Interviewer: Okay. Um if a uh how about um uh a term perhaps used by Negroes or and sometimes used by sometimes used by Negroes and sometimes used by Caucasians to to refer to to poor uh white people. 117: What you're talking about poor white trash? Interviewer: Okay. Now any terms that you're familiar with for a person living in the country. Or and out of touch with town life. {NS} 117: Country cracker? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. That's the sort of thing # 117: #2 That's what you're talking about? # Interviewer: now that that's a very that's a good one. Now are there any others. Like that that you can think of. 117: Country cracker's all I know. Interviewer: Alright. Do you have you ever heard the term {D: sayjer} {C:Unclear on term meant} 117: {D:Sayjer} country {D:sayjer} yeah Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 I heard # that but country cracker was what they used to Interviewer: #1 I see. # 117: #2 say. # Interviewer: Where did you hear {D: sayjer} Do you remember? 117: Don't know too much about that. Interviewer: Alright. 117: {D:Us} us was in the country but us wasn't crackers. Interviewer: Okay. {X} Were the crackers well were how did the crackers how did the crackers differ from other people? 117: Huh? Interviewer: How did the crackers differ from other people? {NS} 117: Well I don't know unless it was that they just had a s- lower standard of of living Interviewer: {NW} 117: on {D:every school} Interviewer: I see. 117: I think that {D:west end of Morrow's} was always lower than the {X} mentioned class but we we had cash we had cash yeah we Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: And you had your different classes of folks. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 117: And you gonna have 'em again in {D: Fayes} Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} If you um If you want if someone was rushing you to go someplace and you wanted them eh to you wanted a little more time you might say just what I'll be with you. Just- {NS} 117: I I'd tell 'em don't pressure me. Interviewer: Yeah you'd say don't pressure me but say you're talking about a period of time about sixty seconds. Ya know? Say just- {NS} 117: I'll be ready to go directly. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 Is that what you want? # Interviewer: Yeah or just a minute. 117: Mm? Interviewer: Like the expression just a minute. 117: No we used to be dir- directly is what we directly I don't know what directly was I haven't looked it up. Interviewer: Alright. How much is sixty seconds? 117: Sixty seconds? Is a minute. Interviewer: Alright. And if you wanted to know the distance from here to Palmetto let's say you might ask someone how- 117: How far is it. Interviewer: Yeah. And under what circumstances do you use the expression uh look here? 117: Look here? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: Under what circumstance? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: When you try to get attention. Interviewer: Okay. 117: That's e- for emphasis. Interviewer: Okay. Now uh if you wanted to know the number of times someone does something. You might say how what? #1 Do you do it. # 117: #2 How often # do you do that. Interviewer: Yeah. And if someone says I'm not going to do that. And you agree with them {D:you say} someone says I'm not going to do that. And you'd say- about yourself. 117: I ain't either. I ain't either. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Uh this up here is what? {NS} What's this stuff? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: What's this stuff? What's this stuff here? 117: What what you talking about your hair? Interviewer: Yeah and up here this is my what? 117: That's your forehead Interviewer: And this is my- 117: That's your ear. Interviewer: Which one? 117: Wait a minute see let's {D:take a paper towel to it} Your ear's not big enough. {NW} Interviewer: Which one is this over here? 117: That is your left ear. Interviewer: And this one? 117: That's your right ear. Interviewer: And if I let my whiskers grow I might grow a- 117: Beard. Interviewer: And this is my- 117: Mouth. Interviewer: And this is one- 117: One tooth. Interviewer: And two- 117: {NW} That's teeth. Interviewer: Alright. And this is my- 117: Throat or or neck. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 {D:Either one} # Interviewer: Uh and this is the what of my hand? 117: That's the palm of your hand. Interviewer: And um this is one- And then and then two- 117: That's Interviewer: two two 117: #1 Fingers. # Interviewer: #2 what? # 117: Fingers. Interviewer: #1 And two what # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: though? 117: Huh? Interviewer: One hand two- 117: You got your right and left hand. Interviewer: And taken together they're two- 117: {D:They're two} Ten fingers. Interviewer: Alright you're just talking about that {NS} The uh this is one hand and this makes two. 117: Two hands yeah. Interviewer: Right. Did you ever heard the the the throat called anything else #1 besides the throat? # 117: #2 Huh? # Interviewer: {NS} Do you remember the throat being called anything besides the throat? 117: {D:Me?} Interviewer: Yeah or anything else. 117: Well I don't know anything about the Interviewer: #1 {X} # 117: #2 {X} # called the neck. What you talking Interviewer: I think a goozle. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Thinking of goozle. 117: Oh that's that's your goozle yeah. Interviewer: #1 {D:Alright} # 117: #2 {D:Yeah} # Interviewer: your Adam's apple. 117: Huh? Interviewer: Your Adam's apple is your #1 goozle huh. # 117: #2 That's right. # Interviewer: I see. And if if I make this I'm making a what? 117: Fist. Interviewer: And two- 117: Two fists. Interviewer: Alright. And um uh if you're talking about your elbow and your wrist and your shoulders your knees your ankles all of these things. Say I had pains in the- 117: My joints. Interviewer: Okay. Um. And is that the usual pronunciation you'd use? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Is that the usual pronunciation you'd use? 117: I never used it before #1 in my life. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # What would you use? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What is the #1 {X} # 117: #2 {D:But I I} # I just that was voluntary so that's natural. Interviewer: Okay. Um would you but I mean would you call it joints or #1 joints {C:pronunciation} # 117: #2 I said # joints but Interviewer: Alright. And um uh this is a a part of a man's body is his what? 117: That's his chest. Interviewer: Alright and these are- 117: Shoulders. Interviewer: And this is the 117: {D:What?} Interviewer: This whole thing is a- 117: That a leg. Interviewer: Yeah. And this is one- {NS} 117: That's a foot Interviewer: #1 And two # 117: #2 I reckon. # Interviewer: of 'em? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Two- 117: Two feet. Interviewer: Alright. And if a person isn't feeling well um you'd say uh he and he and he he looks he's his skin 117: He's ailing. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 He don't feel # fine. Interviewer: And you might say he looks um mighty- 117: Peccant. Interviewer: Alright. And uh if a person is able to lift a very heavy object you'd say he's he really is- {NW} 117: He's a strong man. Interviewer: Alright and a person gets along very well with everyone you'd say he's what kind of a person? {NS} 117: Gets along very well? I'd say he's a smooth operator. Interviewer: Alright. But I mean {X} now does that that is a perfectly neutral uh expression? 117: Huh? Interviewer: Is that is that a I mean just you're talking about someone a neighbor of yours who's very friendly with everybody you call him a smooth operator? {NS} Or would it be someone Uh I mean I didn't mean necessarily an operator I just mean someone who who uh 117: Who's affable? Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah. 117: That that affable might be uh a better selection then. Interviewer: Alright. Um what does the word common mean to you? 117: Huh? Interviewer: What does the word common mean? 117: Common mean? Interviewer: Yeah. Talking about people. 117: Just a common everyday {X} no no distinguishing points just a run-of-the-mill type. Interviewer: But if you talked about someone being common what would that suggest? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: If you talked about someone being common what 117: If I talked about someone being common I'd I'd be talking about somebody kept down Interviewer: Okay. 117: That's the way I feel about Interviewer: I see And if a if a if a woman um an older woman gets around a lot you'd say she's really what? 117: A get about? Interviewer: Okay. You'd say she's a get about {C:pronunciation} but or you might say she's she's would you use something like spry or or or pert {C:pronunciation} or lively or active something like that. {NS} 117: I don't like that spryness cause that's that's what they accuse me of being. Interviewer: Oh really well um but it's a it's a common word around here though 117: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay. Um if um something makes you feel ill at ease you know you'd say I feel a little what? About that I feel a little {NS} And you don't really feel right about something. And that really makes 117: I'm uncomfortable when I'm ill at ease. Interviewer: Okay. Fine. And if a person doesn't uh if a person has fear of something you'd say he's what? 117: Well I have claustrophobia now I can sa- say that about myself. Interviewer: Yeah. 117: I have a fear of closed places that's just about the as far as I know about fear. Interviewer: Alright. But I just mean the general word for that. Like in the expression the children used to say who's the what of the big bad 117: #1 Who's # Interviewer: #2 wolf? # 117: scared of it. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 Who's # scared of it. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 {D:Mm yeah} # Interviewer: And um {NW} say a person um at one time was afraid of something but is no longer afraid of that you might say she what to be afraid of the dark? {NS} She- She isn't afraid of the dark now but she- {NS} in the past. 117: She used to be afraid of the dark. Interviewer: Okay. And what would the negative of that be? If someone contradicts that statement that she used to be afraid of the dark a person might say she didn't- 117: She's she's bold I I don't Interviewer: No I didn't mean that I mean something like would you say she didn't use to be afraid of the dark is that does that sound alright? {NS} 117: Yes that's alright. Interviewer: What? {NS} 117: You say she didn't used to be but she is now. #1 {D:Or like} # Interviewer: #2 Right. # 117: the other way around. Interviewer: Either way is okay. Now a person who is uh who doesn't watch out what he's doing and is uh you might say he's a very what kind of person? 117: He's a careless fella I reckon. Interviewer: Alri- 117: {D:He's used to that} He's he's pure carelessness. Interviewer: Okay. And um a person does things differently from the way other people do it he might be called what kind of a person? 117: I don't know about that but I I I {D:am also} left-handed {D:of course staying to} a different side of a lotta people. Interviewer: Okay. What about the word the uh the uh a word for for a person's behavior is strange. Instead of you might say he's strange or you might say he is what? 117: Queer. Interviewer: Alright. Now does that word have any other connotations or suggestions? 117: Hmm. To say he's queer means he don't fit in {D:the most} category of what's right. Interviewer: Okay. And if a person is uh easily offended you might say he's awfully what? 117: Oh he's got a chip on his shoulder. Interviewer: That's right now. He has a chip on his shoulder he's very- {NS} Uh if a uh if a person doesn't um {NW} and when a person a person has a chip on his shoulder or he's touchy um you might say when when someone bothers him he gets awfully what? {NS} 117: {NW} I don't know what you're talking about unless you say get off his {X} get off his {X} I don't Interviewer: Nah I didn't mean that But I meant you'd say he he'd get awfully- Would you say he'd get awfully angry 117: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 he'd get awfully # mad? 117: So you were saying awful I didn't Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 117: #2 get that awful # I missed Interviewer: Uh-huh. 117: {D:I missed off} Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} 117: He becomes incensed I I can get Interviewer: Yeah that's 117: #1 {D:I get that} # Interviewer: #2 the idea. # 117: #1 that's # Interviewer: #2 {D:but} # Okay. And if a person gets upset ya know you might tell him just- 117: Calm down. Interviewer: Right. And a person works all day he says I'm really what? {NS} 117: #1 Hard? # Interviewer: #2 Person # Yes again please. That's right what Say it again. 117: Oh hard worked hard? Interviewer: Yeah worked hard all day and now he's very- 117: Tired. Interviewer: Right. Or he's all what? He's all- 117: All in. Interviewer: Alright. Um how about the past tense of wear out? 117: The what? Interviewer: He's all- 117: Worn out. Interviewer: #1 Sure. # 117: #2 He's all # worn out Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 117: #2 yeah. # Interviewer: And a person has been um um um eh You might say a person became ill. But how about if you were going to use the term sick? She what sick? 117: Say she was {X} Interviewer: Yeah she was. Would you say she took sick she got sick {NS} 117: I wouldn't know how to speak that I tell you when you go {NS} go about ladies I don't tell you I Interviewer: #1 Not necessarily a lady # 117: #2 {D:around them} # Interviewer: a man either either a man he was he he uh he got sick or he he uh he took sick. {NS} Or a child. You'd say 117: Oh you're talking about if took sick. Interviewer: Yeah sure. 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 If that's what you'd use. # 117: #1 Either one of them # Interviewer: #2 {D:And that} # 117: tooken sick. Interviewer: I see and a person uh went out didn't wear enough clothes on a rainy day you know or a cold day and you'd say he what cold? 117: Got wet and he took cold. Interviewer: Alright. Would you ever use the term caught here? 117: Hmm? Interviewer: Um. Alright. And a person that is talks like this {C:talking softly in strained voice} {NS} you'd say he's what? 117: Hoarse. Interviewer: Alright and he has a {NW} {C:imitating coughing} 117: Cough. Interviewer: Um. And the doctor comes over and the doctor's giving you some medicine to take ya know and he says um uh did you take your medicine? And you say I what some yesterday? Medicine. 117: I say I took some Interviewer: #1 Yes # 117: #2 {D:yesterday} # Interviewer: and I have all the medicine you've given me. I have- {NS} 117: Say you've taken #1 {D:all the medicine} # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 117: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 And a person # can't hear he's what? 117: He's deaf that's me I'm deaf you've found that out. Interviewer: No you're not deaf if you were deaf I wouldn't be able to talk to you. 117: {NW} {C:Laughing} Interviewer: Um. The uh a person um uh on a hot day he might what? 117: What? Interviewer: On a hot day a person might- 117: He might perspire yeah. Interviewer: #1 Alright another # 117: #2 {D:He would} # sweat. Interviewer: #1 Alright. Either way # 117: #2 {D:Do I reckon this way} # perspire. Interviewer: Alright. And um a person gets a large sore on his hand you know that has to be lanced {NS} What do you call that? {NS} 117: You talking about a carbuncle? Interviewer: Something like a carbuncle except this thing has a core in it. {NS} 117: It has a core you say? Interviewer: Yeah. It has a it's a #1 large # 117: #2 {X} # you talking Interviewer: #1 Yeah that's right # 117: #2 about? # Interviewer: that's right. Um {NS} now what is the what do you call that stuff inside of a 117: It's pus. Interviewer: Alright. And um if uh a person has a bad infection in his hand you might say his hand did what it- {NS} 117: Swollen up? Interviewer: Yeah. Um it you'd say a wasp stung me yesterday and my hand really- That's you're {X} that's the right word now what How would you use it there? My uh a wasp stung me and my hand really- 117: Swelled up? Interviewer: Right. Um. And a person is shot with a revolver you know uh and and suffers a bullet what? 117: Bullet wound. Interviewer: Alright. And uh you don't hear so much about this anymore but um {NW} in the past when a when a a wound didn't heal right. Or a a sore didn't heal right sometimes there was some some some flesh around the side that had to be uh cut away. Remember what that was called? 117: You call that proud flesh. Interviewer: #1 Right. # 117: #2 Is that what # you're talking about? Interviewer: Yes that's right. And this is something that you put on a um a uh a sore it's a disinfectant. 117: A salve? Interviewer: Yeah kind of this is something that burns. 117: Hmm? Interviewer: They don't use it as much today as they used to but it really 117: #1 An ointment? # Interviewer: #2 burns. # 117: {X} blister? Interviewer: No this is something that does burn when you put it on. 117: It's a liniment? Interviewer: No it's just the kind it's not mercurochrome but it's something like that. Only it burns. {NS} Whereas mercurochrome didn't burn. {NS} 117: I don't know nothing but {D:just a little} {X} I used to {D:put in} my hand and put it on. {X} Interviewer: Okay this is something they put in salt. Too. 117: I don't know what you're talking about. Interviewer: Iodine or iodine. {D:pronunciation} 117: Oh. Yeah yeah. Well what about it? Interviewer: #1 Which # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Well how do you pronounce it? 117: How do I call it? Interviewer: Yeah. 117: I call it iodine. Interviewer: Alright and how about {X} {C:distorted} Interviewer: now this something you take for that that they give people for malaria and it um give 'em tablets #1 either qui- # 117: #2 quinine # Interviewer: #1 uh yeah what # 117: #2 quinine # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: that's right what 117: quinine Interviewer: sure um and a person is no longer alive you say he is he's no longer alive he what last year he 117: he died Interviewer: yeah uh now are there any neutral or crude or veiled terms for that expression? 117: what's that? Interviewer: are there any other terms for that expression 117: #1 for dying or # Interviewer: #2 yeah any # other expressions for that 117: well they can use the passed away expired or #1 passed away # Interviewer: #2 okay # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and you don't know the cause of a person's death you might say I don't know what he died 117: with Interviewer: alright and the place where a person's buried is the 117: cemetery Interviewer: and the box a person's put in is the 117: is the casket Interviewer: and the and the uh ceremony is called uh 117: uh funeral s- Interviewer: #1 sure and # 117: #2 well is that # what you called it? Interviewer: that's fine #1 but sure # 117: #2 funeral that's right # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: and uh and the after a uh a funeral the family of the deceased you might say the family of the deceased is in 117: arrears? Interviewer: yeah that's the idea there's another word though they're in what when they're saddened over a death and they they might wear black you know for a while and you'd say they're wearing black she's wearing black because she's in what 117: oh full-on mourning Interviewer: sure 117: it used to be a custom #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # alright and a person asks you if you're in in good health and someone says how are you you say oh I'm there's nothing wrong with you as far as you know you know and someone asks you how you are and you say I'm what 117: I'm alright but there's something is the matter but I don't know what it #1 is # Interviewer: #2 okay # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and if a person is is troubled by something and is upset concerned you might say everything will be alright don't 117: #1 don't worry # Interviewer: #2 uh # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # sure and something get up you you when you're you have stiffness in your joints you might be suffering from what? 117: got stiffness in j- in your #1 joints # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 117: mm you could have rheumatism Interviewer: right and this #1 is a di- # 117: #2 {X} # folks always the folks that got it they call it arthritis I say they rheuma- aging on myself Interviewer: okay and this is something that cau- a disease that caused the death of a lot of children oh fifty years ago or so it was a #1 epi- # 117: #2 I don't # know Interviewer: #1 epidemic # 117: #2 that kind of stuff # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # all I know there's a scarlet fever Interviewer: dip 117: huh? Interviewer: dip 117: diphtheria Interviewer: #1 alright # 117: #2 yeah yeah that # {D: was the crawnies when I was} {D: when I was young use wire suspenders around your neck} Interviewer: mm-hmm a what around your neck? 117: used to take a little bag and put {D: nice sweaters around there it still clock any} #1 {D: thing that was} # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 117: supposed to be a disinfectant so we used to Interviewer: uh-huh 117: when diphtheria come around every other school child'd have a little bag of {D: asp heads around his neck did you never hear that?} Interviewer: no 117: well now there's some there's {C: interviewer laughs} something for you Interviewer: okay uh 117: {D: ask Benjamin how I made it spell too} Interviewer: yeah okay uh I think I have heard of that but um uh they um uh something that causes a uh when if a person has uh his um his eyeballs and his even sometimes his skin becomes yellowed #1 you'd call it # 117: #2 that's # jaundice Interviewer: alright and a person gets a pain down in his side he might be having an attack of what 117: what? pains where? Interviewer: yeah uh down in his left side 117: well it could be his appendix Interviewer: alright and what and when he has that he's suffering from #1 what do you call his # 117: #2 appendicitis # Interviewer: yeah and a person can't keep food down he might 117: if he vomits Interviewer: alright yeah are there any crude terms for that? 117: hmm? Interviewer: any crude terms for that 117: he retching he r- he r- #1 retches # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and a person who does this you say he's sick what the s- in terms of the stomach would you say he's sick in his stomach or at his stomach or on the stomach 117: sick in the stomach Interviewer: alright uh if a uh if a woman refused to marry a man she'd planned to marry him you'd say she did what she 117: she's changed her mind Interviewer: alright and if she didn't though they went ahead you'd say they got 117: married Interviewer: alright at a w- and at a wedding uh a woman who assists the bride is called a 117: a woman what Interviewer: who assists the bride 117: is a bridesmaid Interviewer: alright and a noisy serenade after a wedding 117: hmm? Interviewer: do you remember they used to have a noisy celebration after a wedding? 117: no Interviewer: okay and um if you're not talking about part of the crowd you're up or you're talking about the uh what not part of them but the crowd you might say the entire crowd or you might say the 117: reception? Interviewer: no you're talking just about a group of people and you're talking not about a part of that group but the what group the not part of the town turned out for the celebration but the town turned out 117: I don't get it Interviewer: well I don't not a word for for instance you're talking about did you eat part of that you'd say no I ate the did you eat part of that uh that sandwich and you'd say no I ate the 117: you're losing me I don't know why you've got me eating at a wedding Interviewer: alright well either way the point is we're not ta- I mean I want a word here the word I'm after is a word that a word for not part not part of something but the entire thing 117: I ate it all #1 alright # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and not I uh so you'd say I ate would you say I ate the whole thing? 117: I ate it all Interviewer: yeah but how about the use of the word whole instead of part 117: well go ahead Interviewer: well that's what I want you to that's the word I want you to pronounce the word the word whole #1 you see the # 117: #2 whole # Interviewer: the whole thing 117: well I'd say the whole thing Interviewer: alright but what I was getting at is you might have uh an uh that or another word for to to #1 indicate # 117: #2 I would # say entire #1 {D: if I was cool} # Interviewer: #2 okay # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # um and music plays and people go out on a floor and they do what 117: dance Interviewer: alright and a little boy doesn't attend school you might say he does what class he he doesn't attend class #1 when he should # 117: #2 he lays # out of school Interviewer: alright and um uh in in the classroom a little boy sits at a what 117: in the classroom he sits on a {D: dress sixty mansion} Interviewer: alright and what's the plural of of of that of or or bench you could #1 call it a rough sixty # 117: #2 benches # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: alright and the singular is what 117: a desk Interviewer: alright and a person goes to school in order to get a good 117: education Interviewer: alright he gets out of high school and he might go on to 117: college Interviewer: and when you mail a letter you might send it um um um um book rate you know but if you put a six cent stamp on a letter then it goes 117: first class Interviewer: alright does first class mean anything else to you besides that 117: first class? Interviewer: yeah 117: as far as the mail's going? Interviewer: no apart from the mail as for in relation to other other things 117: no first class means uh like a letter #1 is all I know about first class # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # you don't use that that has no association with school for example first class you don't make any association with school in the term first class? 117: #1 school first class # Interviewer: #2 yeah # mm-hmm 117: oh I I think first class uh I think it applies on on many #1 classifications yeah # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # meaning what? 117: huh? Interviewer: meaning what 117: really is the very best {D: offer previous} Interviewer: okay um if you wanted to check a book out you might go over to the what? 117: go to the library Interviewer: #1 yeah and wh- # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: and where would you mail a letter 117: huh? Interviewer: where would you mail a #1 letter # 117: #2 I'd # post it at the office Interviewer: okay now and where would you do what would you do where would you take it 117: hmm? Interviewer: where would you take it? 117: to the post office #1 and post # Interviewer: #2 a- # 117: in there Interviewer: alright and if you went to a strange town you might spend the night where 117: uh in a motel or a place I'd spend the night it used to be a hotel but that's Interviewer: alright and if you were going to see a play you might go to a 117: theater Interviewer: alright and if you had to have an operation you'd go to a 117: if I had a to have an operation Interviewer: yeah 117: I'd go to a hospital Interviewer: and in the hospital there was a doctor and a female is a #1 the woman # 117: #2 a nurse # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: alright and if you wanted to get a tr- get take a train someplace if there was a train running you'd go down to the 117: {D: down} Interviewer: yeah to get to get a train where would you get on a train 117: to get a drink Interviewer: a train going to take a train 117: train oh oh oh depot Interviewer: sure and if you were riding on a bus you might tell the driver I want what the next stop 117: I wanna get off at the #1 next stop # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and if you're talking about um Newnan in relation to the rest of Coweta uh you'd say that Newnan is what 117: Newnan is the county seat of the town #1 of the county # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # right and if a person worked for the post office you'd say he works for the federal 117: government Interviewer: and in eighteen sixty-one to eighteen sixty-five what was that #1 war # 117: #2 the confederacy # Interviewer: but what was that war called? 117: huh? Interviewer: what was the war called? 117: the war between the states is the way I was studied it Interviewer: okay and um the police department is uh has a job they're supposed to maintain what 117: order Interviewer: and what else 117: law Interviewer: alright would you say 'em together? 117: hmm? Interviewer: would you say the the phrase together the two parts of that expression together 117: law and order Interviewer: sure now here's some there's some locations in what state is uh Albany well there's an Albany, Georgia but there's an Albany up north where is it? 117: what? Interviewer: the well um Rochester is in what st- what state 117: Minnesota Interviewer: alright that's true uh uh uh what's the uh what's the biggest city in the United States? 117: biggest city in the United States the last I know that's San Francisco Interviewer: well on the east coast 117: huh? Interviewer: in the east coast Long Island Manhattan 117: New York of course Interviewer: alright and the and that's in um what state is that in 117: New York state Interviewer: alright and where's Baltimore? 117: Maryland Interviewer: and Middlesex County 117: huh? Interviewer: Middlesex County 117: Virginia Interviewer: alright and uh um eh Durham 117: hmm? Interviewer: Durham 117: North Carolina Interviewer: and uh Charleston 117: South Carolina Interviewer: uh and the state we're in right now 117: huh? Interviewer: the state we're in right now Newnan is in what state 117: Charleston? Interviewer: no 117: oh there's one in West Virginia ain't it Interviewer: yeah what state are we in right now 117: oh well this is in Georgia Interviewer: okay and what state is uh Tallahassee in 117: it's in Florida Interviewer: #1 alright # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: and Birmingham 117: Alabama Interviewer: uh Baton Rouge 117: Louisiana Interviewer: uh uh Louisville 117: Kentucky Interviewer: and Nashville 117: Tennessee Interviewer: Saint Louis 117: Missouri Interviewer: and Little Rock 117: Arkansas Interviewer: and uh Biloxi 117: Mississippi Interviewer: and Dallas 117: Texas Interviewer: alright and the big city in Maryland is what 117: Baltimore Interviewer: and the state the seat of the federal government is 117: District of Columbia Interviewer: in what yeah what's the word that usually goes before that the what what word usually goes before District of Columbia 117: D-C Interviewer: yeah but before that #1 what D-C # 117: #2 Washington # #1 D-C # Interviewer: #2 okay # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and the the uh the big port in South Carolina is 117: what Interviewer: the port city in South Carolina 117: {D: is it charles} if it isn't Charleston Interviewer: that's it that's right and the uh the city in uh in um uh Alabama the big city in Alabama almost directly across from here 117: it's Birmingham's the biggest in in #1 Alabama # Interviewer: #2 alright # and the city in Alabama that you if you stay right on twenty-nine and eighty-five you'll be in what city #1 going south yeah # 117: #2 in Alabama? # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # you could go down to Montgomery Interviewer: alright and then if you go on down to the coast what's the name of that #1 city # 117: #2 Mobile # I'll guess Interviewer: alright and what's the city in North Carolina up in the mountains 117: talking about Asheville? Interviewer: yeah and the city in in uh Tennessee big city in Tennessee 117: Knoxville is all on east Te- #1 Tennessee # Interviewer: #2 right # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and what's the city and now these are a couple of towns in west um central and west Tennessee that you've been to 117: what's that? Interviewer: so a couple of towns in w- central and western Tennessee that you have been to 117: oh I've been to uh Murfreesboro and and Nashville and that's in the middle of #1 Tennessee # Interviewer: #2 now how about in West # Tennessee 117: well {D: I've west to} Memphis is on the west Interviewer: #1 alright and the big city # 117: #2 and Jackson's # on the west Interviewer: okay and the big city um uh Jackson, Tennessee? 117: I've been through Jackson #1 yes # Interviewer: #2 I see # 117: it's nice there Interviewer: I see and the the the big city in Georgia just north of here is 117: Atlanta's the most I know about in Georgia Interviewer: #1 okay how about # 117: #2 well Columbus # {D: grew occasionally} Interviewer: alright and uh what there's and how about the one just south straight south of of uh of Atlanta 117: hmm? Interviewer: the pretty good sized city just straight south of Atlanta about seventy mi- five miles south of Atlanta 117: I don't know what you're talking about Interviewer: a city between if you go out of Atlanta um um on eighty-five you'll you'll come out this way but if you go out on seventy-five you go to another city in Georgia you know what that is about seventy-five miles south of Atlanta 117: you talking about LaGrange? Interviewer: no straight south I'm talking about Macon 117: oh and I well when you come in calling numbers the road numbers #1 I don't know what you're talking about # Interviewer: #2 I see I see # see but you know you know where Macon is? 117: I've been to Macon Interviewer: okay what about the city in Atlanta the the port city of Atlanta 117: is what? Interviewer: the city on the ocean pretty good sized city in Georgia on the ocean 117: oh Savannah of course Interviewer: yeah and the uh the port city of Louisiana 117: New Orleans I reckon I don't know Interviewer: alright and there's another big city in Louisiana 117: {D: give me give me dove give me a} Interviewer: or Baton 117: Baton Rouge? Interviewer: yeah the big city in Missouri 117: #1 Saint Louis # Interviewer: #2 big # city in Illinois 117: Illinois #1 Chicago I # Interviewer: #2 and th- # #1 and they # 117: #2 know # Interviewer: they the river city in Ohio 117: Cincinnati Interviewer: alright and the river city in Kentucky 117: Paducah #1 well # Interviewer: #2 Paducah's # one that's right and there's another one further down the river or further up the river I guess 117: well no Interviewer: where where Churchill Downs is 117: Louisville Interviewer: yeah and if someone wanted to know the distance uh um how ma- how uh the number uh talking about a um um say I walked one mile and then I walked nine more then I walked ten what I walked one mile and then I walked nine more so I have walked ten 117: now you walked twenty Interviewer: #1 twenty what # 117: #2 miles # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: okay and if you wanted to know the dis- the length of this room you'd get a ruler and do what 117: I'd measure it Interviewer: alright and if you wanted to if someone wanted to know um about your doing something and you'd say I don't know I wanted to do that I don't know if I wanted to do that or I don't know whether I wanted to that 117: I don't know whether I'm going to do that or not Interviewer: okay um now would you say I had a choice of doing two things and I did this doing that say I did this instead of or in place of doing that 117: I did number one rather than number two Interviewer: okay 117: I'd use rather in there Interviewer: alright um but how about you'd say if you were taking someone's place might you I ca- I went instead of him? going or I went instead do you ever use instead in any circumstances 117: well I could say I went instead of he Interviewer: alright says uh why do you like him why do you like that man you'd say I like him blank he's so funny I like him 117: you don't want want me ask you why I like him #1 {D: but he asked him} # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 117: I like him instead of his folks Interviewer: hmm 117: now if you can get a better one than that Interviewer: #1 okay # 117: #2 {X} # Interviewer: now I was gonna getting at okay but I was thinking here I like him cause he's so funny or because he's so funny 117: I like him because I can't resist him #1 now that is how I like people # Interviewer: #2 oh # okay but how about the term do you remember the uh the negroes on your farm using the expression cause 117: what Interviewer: I like him cause he's so funny using cause instead of #1 because # 117: #2 yeah # I I I've I've I was familiar with on on that kind of stuff Interviewer: mm-hmm um would you say it seems like he's always late or it seems as if he's always late 117: he seems as if he's always late Interviewer: alright and on Sunday people uh frequently go where 117: hmm? Interviewer: where do people frequently go on Sunday? 117: people frequently go to church they shouldn't Interviewer: okay and um the um the minister preached a good what 117: sermon Interviewer: alright some people moved in from another town and so then they went down and what the church 117: the what {X} Interviewer: yeah and they'd to become members you'd say they did what #1 they did what # 117: #2 they'd # come in and join this #1 church # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # alright and the name of the supreme being is what 117: is God Interviewer: alright and the organ plays what 117: hmm? Interviewer: what does an organ play an organ the organ played a hymn and hymn is a kind of what #1 what kind of a com- # 117: #2 {X} # a lot of Interviewer: #1 composition # 117: #2 {D: hymns is} # Interviewer: well um 'em wha- I you'd say it uh uh the organ plays the the noise that comes out of an organ you wouldn't just call it noise you'd call it what more than just noise 117: it's a melody organ plays you ca- you Interviewer: #1 yeah a melody # 117: #2 get a melody but # Interviewer: or music 117: well yeah Interviewer: what 117: so a hymn could be ah you're getting me you're getting me confused Interviewer: #1 no oh yeah # 117: #2 well now you're # I I {D: told melodies you could} {D: ask more questions he does it his jewel roll you really do ask too} Interviewer: okay well I the word I was after there was music 117: huh Interviewer: music music? 117: oh it plays music Interviewer: #1 sure # 117: #2 thought about it # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: what if there was an old house in the neighborhood that children were afraid of what would they call that house 117: it'd be a haunted #1 house # Interviewer: #2 what's # supposed to be in there? 117: a ghost Interviewer: alright #1 a- # 117: #2 they called it # spirits Interviewer: okay and the uh uh the um the proprietor of hell what's he called? 117: the devil Interviewer: okay and you say I think I'll put on a coat today because it's what chilly 117: hmm? Interviewer: would you say it's kind of chilly it's sort of chilly or it's rather chilly? 117: I'd say it's rather chilly Interviewer: alright and um if a person is very uh careful with his money and he doesn't like to part with his money people might say he's #1 he # 117: #2 stingy # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: okay and if something um um let's see the the usual greeting on December twenty-fifth 117: merry Christmas Interviewer: and on January first 117: happy new year Interviewer: alright and if uh something's thrown in with a purchase or given when a bill is paid 117: I don't know that's his token of his #1 appreciation # Interviewer: #2 o- # 117: #1 {D: I don't get you though} # Interviewer: #2 Okay # that's okay how about a place where a car is parked if uh a covering that you something you put in uh a room you or it's it's kind of uh a shelter for an automobile 117: what's that? Interviewer: a shelter for an automobile 117: garage? Interviewer: alright and these are little things that you sometimes eat with rice they're kind of pink and they have to be shelled they're kind they kind of curl up when they're boiled sometimes have them creole no it's a seafood 117: I don't know what you're talking about Interviewer: I'm talking about the shrimp 117: oh lord I don't eat those I'm not a shrimp eater Interviewer: okay- okay um do you know the name of the most popular kind of chocolate bar 117: no I do not Interviewer: uh they they the they when you think of chocolate in this country who makes the most of it 117: they used to have a Babe Ruth or something they used #1 to have something involved but I've been # Interviewer: #2 alright yeah # I was thinking of Hershey 117: huh Interviewer: was thinking of Hershey 117: Hershey bars #1 yes yes # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # say I think I'm gonna I'm gonna go downtown and do some um I have to go downtown tomorrow and and buy some things say I'm going downtown to do some what? 117: shopping Interviewer: alright and you go to the store and buy something and they and the man in the store will take the package and 117: wrap it up Interviewer: and then you take it home and you 117: use it Interviewer: and you before you use it you have to 117: unwrap it Interviewer: right and he didn't make any money on that product that he sold in fact he had to sell it how he didn't make any money on that he bought something and then he had to sell it and he had to sell it he didn't make a profit at all he had to sell it 117: at a loss? Interviewer: right and if um uh you uh if say I was gonna buy that but it what too much I was going to buy this thing but I couldn't because it it what too much 117: well it cost too much that's a common #1 experience for me # Interviewer: #2 su- # okay and on the first of the month the bill is what 117: hmm? Interviewer: the bill 117: was due Interviewer: alright and if you belong to a club you have to pay your 117: eh what? Interviewer: you belong to a club if you belong to a club you have to 117: pay your dues Interviewer: alright and if you don't have enough money you might have to go to the bank and 117: borrow it Interviewer: alright and during the thirties money was awfully 117: hard to get Interviewer: alright and now was there another word for that 117: scarce Interviewer: sure okay and to um to dive in the water and land on your stomach do you know what that's called? 117: what's that? Interviewer: diving in the water and landing on your stomach 117: no I don't know it Interviewer: alright how about a little kid gets down on the floor and turns over like that say what he's doing he's turning a 117: flip? Interviewer: alright and if uh if soil is very productive you might say it's what 117: #1 fertile soil # Interviewer: #2 kind of # alright and if a little child is making a lot of noise you might tell him to 117: shut up Interviewer: or hush would you ever use 117: hmm? Interviewer: another way you might say that other than shut up 117: #1 that's not that's that's # Interviewer: #2 might sound uh # 117: not as effective as as as shut up Interviewer: yeah I was thinking of hush though would you ever use that we're about finished 117: huh Interviewer: I said we're about finished there's just a few more here if #1 we could there's just a # 117: #2 no go ahead let's uh # let's r- ran 'em out Interviewer: okay but what might you say besides uh shut up to a child 117: well you said hush Interviewer: alright 117: be quiet Interviewer: alright and uh uh kids go down to the river or down to the lake and they go for a what 117: swim Interviewer: alright and yesterday they what across the river 117: they swam Interviewer: #1 alright many # 117: #2 across the river # Interviewer: times they have across the river 117: many times they have swum across the Interviewer: #1 okay # 117: #2 river # Interviewer: and uh they get up on a rock and they what into the water 117: they dive #1 into the water # Interviewer: #2 and okay # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and many times they have 117: dived they have dived #1 many times they have dived # Interviewer: #2 o- okay # 117: {D: well I see those} those words that what you're working on Interviewer: that right now yeah there's just a few of those um well now if a if a boy goes down for the third time you might say he did what he 117: he's gonna drown that's what this Interviewer: #1 alright # 117: #2 {D: say} # Interviewer: and yesterday he did yesterday take did off but you would say uh today he drowns yesterday he another boy in the same place 117: another boy drowned in the same place Interviewer: yeah in fact three people this summer have 117: drowned if that's Interviewer: right and a per- uh a girl goes into church and gets down on her knees you'd say she did what she what down 117: knelt to pray Interviewer: alright and say I'm really tired I think I'll what down for a while I think I'll 117: I think I'll go and I think I'll lay back here Interviewer: alright um and or would you say I'll lay down for a while or I'll lie down for a while 117: I think I'll lay down and lie too Interviewer: okay and he what in bed all day 117: huh Interviewer: he what in bed all day he just he didn't get up he just 117: he lolled along the bed #1 all day # Interviewer: #2 yeah # you might say loll but a form of lie or lay there say he lay in bed all day or he lied in bed all day 117: you you're getting you're splitting hairs now Interviewer: okay I just wondered which you'd use you know if you were gonna use the term 117: you're splitting hairs on me I wouldn't know what Interviewer: alright um yeah if you um ideas were going through your mind you know while you were asleep you'd say uh he had a dream last say did you have a dream last night he'd say oh yes I what all night long I 117: I dreamed Interviewer: #1 yeah # 117: #2 I stepped # in marble #1 halls # Interviewer: #2 okay # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and I what early this morning up early this morning #1 you're asleep and you open # 117: #2 um and I waked # early Interviewer: alright again please 117: hmm Interviewer: say that again 117: I waked early this #1 morning # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and uh to do this on the floor is to 117: stomp on the #1 floor # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and after a dance a boy might say to a girl may I what you home 117: may I escort you home Interviewer: alright and you get on a rope and you get on a rope and you give it a 117: a pull Interviewer: #1 you get behind some # 117: #2 or tug or # something Interviewer: and you get behind something that's stuck and you give that a 117: a push Interviewer: alright and you have a heavy suitcase that you have to get up stairs and you'd say I what it upstairs I you know I you 117: #1 I don't know unless you tote it # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # okay that's fine and a little child running around getting into all kinds of things and you say don't what that don't you'll hurt you'll burn yourself don't 117: don't meddle #1 so much # Interviewer: #2 yeah and don't # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # quit putting your hand on it you know don't well what am I doing to this table right now I'm 117: {D: don't if I know} Interviewer: just touching it 117: touch don't touch it #1 oh yeah yeah # Interviewer: #2 sure yeah # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and if you wanted a knife from another room uh you wanted someone to bring you you know to get a knife from the other room you might say please what me a knife 117: #1 please bring me that uh knife # Interviewer: #2 ple- sure # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and you throw a ball up in the air and you try to 117: #1 catch it # Interviewer: #2 and then # you might ask the question who 117: tossed the ball Interviewer: and then who 117: who caught the ball Interviewer: right and uh if someone's in a big hurry say take your time I'll what I'll I'll would you say I'll wait say I'll wait on you or I'll wait for you 117: take your time I'll wait on you I'll wait on you #1 I'll # Interviewer: #2 oh # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # okay 117: I'll wait for {D: it's just a little over what them argument} that question itself don't really give you a clear Interviewer: no 117: you don't give me a clear what I'm asked Interviewer: yeah well that if you wait I'll wait wait on you uh meaning ah 117: I'll wait on his motion or if if it's something I wanna do I'll wait for him Interviewer: I see I th- well then that's since you'd use um I'll wait for you if a um if a child has been um has been bad you know and you're going to spank him uh the child might plead with you please please 117: I'll be good Interviewer: give give me what 117: huh? Interviewer: give me 117: #1 give me another chance I'll be good # Interviewer: #2 me right # okay and if uh a person you might say a person's in good spirits or you might say he's in good 117: {D: luck} Interviewer: well I mean a good natured person you know you'd say he's in good you might say he's in good 117: easygoing fellow Interviewer: yeah would you ever use good humor he's in good humor 117: yeah Interviewer: what's that 117: huh? Interviewer: just say that 117: he's a good humored soul? Interviewer: mm-hmm you'd say we had to get some some poison because we wanted to get what of those bugs 117: gonna get shed of 'em #1 or get rid # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: of 'em either one Interviewer: a little boy in school might say he his pencil's missing and he thin- he thinks someone took it 117: #1 somebody took my pencil # Interviewer: #2 a- # alright uh how about stole or swiped or something like that 117: how's that? Interviewer: how about stole or swiped 117: somebody swiped it yeah Interviewer: alright and it um if uh you wanted to k- uh get in touch with a friend you might what him a letter you might 117: write him a letter Interviewer: yeah and just yesterday I 117: writ Interviewer: alright and I must have four letters last month I must have I must have what four letters to him last month 117: #1 I must have written four letters to him # Interviewer: #2 I yeah # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and now I expect 117: an answer Interviewer: right and you put your name and what on the on the envelope 117: return address Interviewer: yeah your uh yeah and so if you're talking about twenty-five east uh okay okay um if a child comes home doing something very strange you might say to him who on earth you that who on earth yeah you wanted to know a child comes home from school and is doing something very strange and the mother might say to the child who on earth you that 117: who on earth taught you #1 that # Interviewer: #2 sure # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # uh and how about children's nicknames for a person who tattles or tells tales 117: uh busybody or {D: tale teller} Interviewer: alright and out in your garden you might grow some since you have a a show garden rather than an eating garden 117: I grew some some lilies and daffodils #1 and # Interviewer: #2 and those are different # kinds of what 117: flowers Interviewer: alright and if you went out there and you were going to get some and put it in a vase you'd say I'm gonna go out and what some flowers 117: and cut some #1 flowers # Interviewer: #2 alright # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and a child's plaything is is called what 117: a toy Interviewer: alright and talking about um we talked about before the word give you know about giving an apple and so forth they talk about um say we uh we give to the Red Cross every year and say last year we to some other charities as well we 117: we gave Interviewer: and we have to more charities than I can remember we have 117: given? Interviewer: sure now um right now we begin something yesterday we 117: begun Interviewer: alright and and we have we have 117: begun Interviewer: yeah and then uh the children uh always come when they are called uh the relatives yesterday 117: the relatives came #1 yesterday # Interviewer: #2 yeah # and they have what to visit us they have 117: #1 I don't get what you want # Interviewer: #2 with the word # come here #1 they they have # 117: #2 huh # Interviewer: well would you say they have they have they have came to visit or they have come to visit us 117: they have come to visit us Interviewer: okay and now talking about now um you say we can see we can see what will happen you that happen before you 117: came Interviewer: did you see that you say yes I did you see that happen you say yes I 117: I saw it Interviewer: yeah I have that picture before I have 117: I have seen it Interviewer: sure and we had to take a detour around town because the road was all by construction workers the road was all 117: torn up? Interviewer: yeah and uh someone gave uh uh a girl a bracelet and he gives her a bracelet and she thanks him for it and then he tells her go ahead and 117: put it on Interviewer: right #1 and # 117: #2 wear it # Interviewer: right um um talki- say um we do that all the time he what his homework last night he 117: say he wasn't at home Interviewer: yeah his homework say did he do his homework and you'd say yes he d- every night he 117: he does it I #1 guess I don't know # Interviewer: #2 okay # someone says what's new and you'd say what's new and you'd say 117: nothing new #1 you know there's # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 117: nothing new Interviewer: somebody says oh come now there must be new 117: well that's w- that's when I ask well what's the news Interviewer: ah okay yeah and then he'd say nothing's new but then someone might reply to that and say oh come now there must be new there must be 117: some news Interviewer: sure and uh say I think I'll go out because it's what a nice day today it's 117: what'd you say? Interviewer: well uh it's a nice day you know we're talking about it being a nice 117: #1 it is a nice day # Interviewer: #2 day may you might # day it's a very nice day or you might say it's such a nice day {C: lots of distortion starts here and continues the rest of the reel} someone says how long have you lived here how long have you lived in Coweta County you say well I've what lived here I've 117: #1 lived here my entire life that's what I would say answer # Interviewer: #2 lived here oh yeah # but if something is for all time you know you'd say well I've lived here how often do you do that say well I giblets I always do that and well how many say you moved into this house uh what year did you move into this house when when did you move into this house? 117: #1 you mean when I mean you're asking me if a question when I came here oh about # Interviewer: #2 yeah yeah yeah yeah # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 117: #1 {D: three years ago I was live here} # Interviewer: #2 okay # so you'd say how long have you lived in this house and you'd say well I've lived here ever what nineteen sixty-seven #1 let's say yeah you'd say I've lived here ever # 117: #2 But that's when I think I come in. # Interviewer: #1 # 117: #2 # Interviewer: I've lived 117: been here since Interviewer: right 117: nineteen sixty-seven Interviewer: alright someone says that was no accident someone's talking about something happening you say well that was no accident he did that 117: #1 on purpose # Interviewer: #2 right # 117: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # and then um if you were if you were wa- you want to know the answer to something you'd say I'm gonna have to what him a question I'm going #1 to have to yeah and # 117: #2 ask him a question # Interviewer: so yesterday I 117: I asked him yeah Interviewer: okay uh now uh do those boys fight much and you say well when they were younger they every day #1 they alright # 117: #2 they fit every day yeah # Interviewer: and they have everyone in the neighborhood they have 117: have done what Interviewer: they have 117: fought? Interviewer: yeah um uh and he stuck a knife in a pig and then he what it out he 117: so he stabbed a pig Interviewer: yeah 117: and then he what? Interviewer: and then what he took the knife and would you say he drew it out or he drawed it out 117: he I hope he drew it out I hope he didn't do what I did Interviewer: okay what did you do 117: huh? Interviewer: what did you do? 117: I stuck my knife in a rabbit's head way back y'all when they said that head had rabbit fever around it and I was took him by knocking his head and stepped on #1 {D: and} # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 117: shoved the knife in the head and then took my foot off and he went running off down the road with my knife Interviewer: oh is that right well that's it now so we'll