Interviewer:  Okay will you give me your full name first?
165:  {B}
Interviewer:  Alright now you told me that your husband's first name was {B} was that right? It just happened to be that his first name sounds like {B} uh huh and did you name any of your children named Chloe?
165:  No ma'am That one that is named His middle name is
Interviewer:  And you said you were born where?
165:  South Carolina
Interviewer:  How far from here?
165:  About two mile and a half Right there to the {D: experiment} station.
Interviewer:  Oh that's right
165:  On the tunnel right there Right where the housing was.`
Interviewer:  Well does somebody in your family still work out there?
165:  My grandchild works out there now.
Interviewer:  Hmm I talked to Mr Maltz out there and he said oh yes
165:  I have a grandson out there. I had a daughter lived out there for about eight of nine years, ain't been long moved to town.
Interviewer:  Okay and um And uh You're a, your parents uh grew up uh
165:  In Sumter County {X} The county that- {D: What they call the name of their} {X} Can't think of any. Before they brought the planes here {X} The town over there
Interviewer:  Well about how far
165:  Uh about two miles about three or two miles and a half where my mother grew up at. My father grew up down in here. {X} They had nine children
Interviewer:  And you were the
165:  I was the Uh to the last.
Interviewer:  Right
165:  {D; Let's see I was} I was the sixth one.
Interviewer:  And your um your mother's name before she she got married was
165:  {B}
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  We lived in a four room house Three bedroom and a kitchen
Interviewer:  Okay And that was uh out there on the experiment station.
165:  Yes ma'am.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  The house was built for my daddy.
Interviewer:  Is that right?
165:  And my, my oldest Brother lived there forty years before he moved. He married he stayed on there.
Interviewer:  Is the house still out there?
165:  Oh they tore up all the old houses since the experiment. There was a lot of farmhouses out there.
Interviewer:  Okay well the house was just a square then? Just about like this?
165:  Yes and one big one great big two really big rooms yeah. Three in two or three beds in a room
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  The kitchen was kitchen and just hold a table and a stove {X} Stove and a table {X}
Interviewer:  Okay where was the Was the porch across the front?
165:  Yes the porch was on the front.
Interviewer:  And uh How did you heat back then?
165:  Wood.
Interviewer:  Okay with the stove or in the fireplace?
165:  Both the stove and fireplace My father would cut wood at this time uh in this {X} cut, turning up the land. And they just kept big piles of wood Cows and hogs barn out there.
Interviewer:  Now which way was the barn now?
165:  It was that way from the house
Interviewer:  Right here?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Okay and how did you go back there? Was there some sort of little um To go from the house to the barn?
165:  My mama had a big yard she had a big old yard and she kept it clean.
Interviewer:  That's when you swept everything off?
165:  Yes ma'am {X} garden built with {D: Shank} {X} you might, I think it was {X} they called them.
Interviewer:  Uh the garden?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  What about the yard how was it in?
165:  It was just a big yard with an oak tree we just all around
Interviewer:  Did it have a fence around it?
165:  No ma'am. {X} put in place right on the corner
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  and there was a set of woods a patch of woods long {X} They clean that up and they got pear trees on the back of the woods that would have been there now.
Interviewer:  #1 And the fence was around the garden then #
165:  #2 And I # Yes ma'am and we had potato heels in the garden with a {D: shelter} over there at five and six peel the potatoes
Interviewer:  Alright and you said it was covered?
165:  It had a shelter over it {X} with heel fixed up.
Interviewer:  Oh that's where you stored the potatoes then?
165:  Yes ma'am
Interviewer:  After you grew them you dug them and
165:  Put them there And the smokehouse was out from the house there. Plenty of meat. They raise, my daddy raised plenty Hogs to kill, not to sell, just to kill.
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  And chickens and plants
Interviewer:  And where did the hogs uh where did he keep them?
165:  They were back of the lot out there And then he had a horse. And horses, he had a lot fenced. A fence made around him for the horse.
Interviewer:  And what did you call where the hogs were?
165:  They was back {X} lot back out there.
Interviewer:  And was that enclosed with a fence around?
165:  Around the hogs yes.
Interviewer:  What kind of fence was that?
165:  Made out of {X}.
Interviewer:  Is that just like the garden fence the paling fence?
165:  Yes ma'am.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And how was that made with them sticking were they straight up?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  And uh nailed on to another board?
165:  Another board run all around.
Interviewer:  And in the intervals then you had something bigger in the ground?
165:  Yeah a pole {X} You know it's poles just like you would for wire. But it's using paling.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh
165:  We spring clean my momma spring clean Once a year just took everything out
Interviewer:  Out of the house.
165:  hot sun and soap water high as she could, {X} the house down. My mama's was a clean house.
Interviewer:  {X}
165:  Yes she was cause that keep the steps as clean as it did.
Interviewer:  And what did you use what kind of soap did you use?
165:  Plenty of soap oxygen {D: word} soap
Interviewer:  Well not she didn't make it herself.
165:  Yeah, from {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
165:  #2 {X} soap #
Interviewer:  Is the kind you made outside?
165:  Yes ma'am.
Interviewer:  What did you make it in?
165:  A pot
Interviewer:  Yeah
165:  A black pot Grease and uh potash and {D:oxygen} soap you dust old oh uh {NS} you just clean um you know {X}
Interviewer:  Lye maybe?
165:  {X} powder and I'd use but a little of it like. And you have to use about a box or two to wash two or three loads now but you don't use we didn't use that many.
Interviewer:  Did you uh wash outside?
165:  Yes ma'am Tub.
Interviewer:  Everyday- Every Monday?
165:  Yes ma'am yes my momma washed every Monday {X} I wash every Monday too.
Interviewer:  Still?
165:  Yes ma'am
Interviewer:  And on Tuesday you always- {NS}
165:  {X} I don't do that now but that's what I was raised to do.
Interviewer:  Sure Okay and uh What about the water? How did you
165:  Well we had a well. Good well of water.
Interviewer:  Out in the yard?
165:  Yes ma'am drawed it.
Interviewer:  Out back out front where was it?
165:  It in the back
Interviewer:  Back here?
165:  Yes it was a {D: bold} well it wasn't a dug one a {D: bold but} When we had good water.
Interviewer:  And how did you get it up was it
165:  Draw it.
Interviewer:  Pull it up on a rope?
165:  No ma'am draw it.
Interviewer:  #1 You had to crank it #
165:  #2 It had a...yes draw it #
Interviewer:  And what went down to get the water
165:  Bucket. A bucket. A long bucket about that long.
Interviewer:  Made of what's that made out of? Some kind of metal or?
165:  Yes. It had a {D: teekle} up there on the top. I got two or three {D: teekles} now {NW}
Interviewer:  What's that the thing that
165:  #1 The rope #
Interviewer:  #2 rolled it? #
165:  go around and pull it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. You call that a teekle?
165:  Yes ma'am.
Interviewer:  And you've still got it?
165:  I got two.
Interviewer:  Yeah? Do you usually or use them?
165:  No ma'am I just got 'em.
Interviewer:  You just got 'em?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Kinda like souvenirs?
165:  Yeah people said that I was whole lotta folks say I like to reach look pick up old things. Cheaper like this it's cheaper than some things than buy one of 'em.
Interviewer:  Sure. Well Mr. Reese is uh is Harold Andrew's father the one that you worked for.
165:  Yes ma'am.
Interviewer:  For how long would you say?
165:  Forty-three years.
Interviewer:  And you did what? Just everything or just you were the cook?
165:  Everything.
Interviewer:  {D: Everything}.
165:  Uh huh everything. Around the last year I put down everything. But I cleaned- No I didn't I didn't have to up the beds never. She made up her bed. We cleaned the house once a week. And I done all the cooking. All they do is tell me what they want cooked. She had a cookbook for one of the recipes {D: you} I cooked by it and just {D: detour} they'd try to get me to tell them what I do. {X}.
Interviewer:  Then detoured?
165:  Yes and teach it like I want a little bit get it better.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
165:  And they often told me to tell them I'd tell them they'd say well I can't fix it like you. Well cause I don't- they say let her alone she ain't gonna tell you her secret.
Interviewer:  {NW}
165:  #1 So you detoured #
Interviewer:  #2 Little bit #
165:  Little little more or do a little less I can tell right there when I get it good they crazy about my cooking.
Interviewer:  They tell me you are a fine cook. I heard about Ruth's cooking long time before I ever {NW}
165:  Any- Anything I wanna cook, anything when they were having company anything. They just tell me what to cook. Put it there after I was
Interviewer:  Sure. Well then {NW} did you still use a wood stove?
165:  Well there I started with a wood stove. Yeah we made a wood stove there. {NS}
Interviewer:  But for time though later on they probably had a-
165:  They had a la- uh an electric stove.
Interviewer:  Mm.
165:  I used a wood stove there a long time. Range. Warmer to it.
Interviewer:  Oh and that was the, you had to bring water in from outside there too?
165:  No. We had a spigot running there.
Interviewer:  Had a what?
165:  Faucet- faucet.
Interviewer:  Yeah?
165:  They called them spigots. {NW}
Interviewer:  What did you call it uh or what do you call it if it's outside and you turn it on like that?
165:  Use it outside? Faucet. {X}
Interviewer:  Or a spigot. Okay. And where was the fireplace in this house?
165:  In my old house? Just one fireplace all us arranged round one fireplace. And I don't know how we did it.
Interviewer:  Heated the whole house? #1 Well there was a stove? #
165:  #2 Oh yeah. # {X} heated that and we just-
Interviewer:  Stayed close to that.
165:  I reckon so.
Interviewer:  Was it on this side?
165:  Yes it was on the side of the house.
Interviewer:  Okay like this?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um, the smoke when up through the?
165:  Went straight up.
Interviewer:  Through uh
165:  Through the chimney.
Interviewer:  And um, what did you call this part in front of the fireplace you remember?
165:  Mantle piece.
Interviewer:  Well wasn't that the part that was up here?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  What about that part down on the floor?
165:  Hearth.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh those things that uh that uh were in there iron pieces that you pile the wood on?
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  That's what we called them.
Interviewer:  And uh uh the big uh you remember uh a big round piece of wood maybe with the bark on it that you put in there and the fire would it was big and the fire would hold on it longer?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  #1 What did you #
165:  #2 I had that. #
Interviewer:  What did you call that?
165:  Call it um log.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about the how did you start the fire in the fireplace?
165:  {D: Use flint or} fat lighter {D: flannel}. And they'll {D: carry} you had kerosene but we, you know, what in the lamp and we need that.
Interviewer:  Mm.
165:  Started with {D: flannel}. {X} in the winter time find that they would hardly get out. {X} people put some, put 'em on them coals and take a facet from round there and there'll be two of them {D: on a shelve them} have 'em way outside there.
Interviewer:  Sure. Okay and what do you call that black stuff that forms in the chimney?
165:  That's schmuck.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what do you call this that I'm sitting in or you're sitting in?
165:  We call it a chair.
Interviewer:  And that?
165:  Call it um
Interviewer:  Is it a sofa?
165:  I would have said settee.
Interviewer:  A long time ago but now you
165:  #1 We call it a sofa. #
Interviewer:  #2 call it- # Okay. And what are the, back then uh did you have you told me all three of these were bedrooms. The one that had the fireplace in it were you more likely to call it something that meant it was the room where you stayed in most of the
165:  #1 All the #
Interviewer:  #2 time? #
165:  time we didn't have one {X] we had a front room for company to sleep in one of them rooms. But that bedroom there it was a big one it had two big beds in it and a small bed kind of up there in the fireplace and in it {X} was an old big {X}. You see they tore down all the houses like that over there. Lawns and everything be a new modern thing.
Interviewer:  Sure. Well um, up at uh at uh The Andrews' place where you worked uh did they have back uh when you first started working there a room like this?
165:  Even when I first worked start working out there they had a living room.
Interviewer:  Is that what they called it back then?
165:  Yes they called it a living room.
Interviewer:  I thought they might have been more likely to call it uh sitting room or parlor of something like that. What, which one?
165:  Parlor.
Interviewer:  It was a parlor?
Auxiliary:  #1 Yes. A parlor #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh oh. #
165:  Yeah you know a parlor. You could've called that #1 I told you I called that #
Interviewer:  #2 Sure. #
165:  a parlor, the parlor.
Interviewer:  My grandfa- father's house, it didn't have a living room. It had a parlor and okay what what furniture did they have in the bedroom as in besides the bed?
Interviewer:  Or in your house?
165:  I had in bed {D: In our first thought} {D: they would, I thought they had on}. They didn't have all that um beds and um a rocking chair and I don't know what you call it I heard what they call that old crib. Big thing they put clothes in it didn't of course get through.
Interviewer:  Was it something built in?
165:  No it was a big old wardrobe. Big old wardrobe.
Interviewer:  That was made out of wood?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  And it could be moved around?
165:  You want to move it but you could not move it {X}
Interviewer:  It was heavy.
165:  Heavy wood.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  Paint it dark.
Interviewer:  Yeah. What about something with a mirror over it?
165:  They had a wash stand. And a bowl and pitcher. I have a bowl and pitcher in my own room now.
Interviewer:  Yeah?
165:  It broke a little around the edges.
Interviewer:  Yeah well they were.
165:  Pitcher.
Interviewer:  {X}.
165:  Yeah they {X} on the wash. Everybody washed their face and hands on that wash stand. Put the towel across it.
Interviewer:  The back of it.
165:  Yes we had a blue strip cross and then a glass a wash stand in there.
Interviewer:  Sure. Okay and all the things you had in the house the beds and chairs and everything you called that the? Or you call it now all the? All the different things the beds {X} would say that just a lot of all- Or somebody goes and buys things you say well they bought a lot of new?
165:  Oh they call it antiques now.
Interviewer:  Yeah but what if they go to the store downtown, you know or if they're getting ready to move then I say well a truck's coming to get all my? The bed the chairs the dressers the tables all that stuff and you call it the household uh
165:  Furniture.
Interviewer:  Okay how's that?
165:  Household furniture yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. You ever hear it called plunder?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  No you never heard it called plunder? Okay and what would you have made that pulled up and down to keep the light out of the windows?
165:  Shades. Blue shades. And yellow ones.
Interviewer:  Yeah? And but this kind like this that you pull back you call? Do you call them shades too?
165:  No them curtains.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh did this house have anything built in to keep the- your clothes in?
165:  No it didn't.
Interviewer:  How did you uh keep them?
165:  Hang 'em outside the house.
Interviewer:  Uh huh on what?
165:  Nails.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh what about a little room at the top of the house just under the roof? Was there some space up there?
165:  No not in that one.
Interviewer:  Yeah what about in the Andrews' house? You remember this little storage space up there where you put old things?
165:  Attic they called it.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh to get up there you had to go up- Did that that house had uh had two stories had uh
165:  Had uh that room there. We moved down to his sister's house and lived there he had a two story house.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  It was old.
Interviewer:  And um what about uh to go from the downstairs to the second floor you'd go up the...
165:  Stairs yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh what about the little room off the kitchen where you uh you stored canned goods extra dishes that sorta thing?
165:  That that that that is uh Logan's house had it but he didn't they didn't have that up to where we lived.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What did they call what did they call it?
165:  They call it where they put the dishes at.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh what would you call {NS} uh old worthless furniture maybe things that you think well maybe you ought to throw away but uh you still have around just uh- Maybe furniture or maybe uh farm tools something you might store outside somewhere? You say I ought to get rid of that stuff that's a lot of old?
165:  {X} just showed up, a lot of old stuff like that.
Interviewer:  Would you call it uh trash or junk or
165:  We call it junk.
Interviewer:  Okay and where would you uh what would you call a room that maybe you just that sort of stuff in?
165:  Called it we called it where we keep the junk at.
Interviewer:  Okay. And every morning after you get up and have breakfast you have to go around and you know uh clean uh straighten up everything how do you say you're going to do that or you have to do that I've got to go...
165:  Well when uh they get to, when they got to eat breakfast and I did that I'd give them the breakfast on the table I'd go and get the {D: coffee}. And I came back in and stand and I'd eat and get the dishes and clean them out. They had a big dog they'd feed the dog. And I wash the dishes And that time it'd be time for me to be getting ready for for dinner. Dinner went down up there at {D: the desk}. Get them ready for dinner.
Interviewer:  Okay. What do you call it if uh after you had breakfast you have to go through the process of making up the beds Or going over the floor, you say well I've got to? Maybe you've had company or the children have been playing and everything's gotten {X}, you say well I've got to?
165:  Where we had to pick up behind them all the time.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Did you have a word that meant doing all of that sort of thing, making up the beds? {NS}
165:  In them days in time I could just do it if wasn't much to do Well I didn't call it nothing, I
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
165:  #2 I'd soon # go through with that, done, {D: getting up the} thing.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  It was Virginia's thing I timed the washing cause that was mine {X}.
Interviewer:  {X} She was your favorite?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Is that is she the youngest?
165:  Yes ma'am.
Interviewer:  Is there uh
165:  There's nine. Oh I liked them all But I'd always do everything she wanted me to do for her. Dye their clothes or
Interviewer:  What their clothes?
165:  Dye 'em {X} they want dyed.
Interviewer:  Yeah? How did you do that?
165:  On the floor uh
Interviewer:  Did you stir it?
165:  No put on, let it get hot and put the dye in there and Boil so many minutes take it out put a handful of salt in there and put it back in there before it can stain.
Interviewer:  Salt?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  What did that do?
165:  I reckon that Salinity keep it from running and everything Then rinsed it till it was clean.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  Washed clothes if they didn't could hang out hang it on the seat of a chair, lay it on a chair for 'em. On paper.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And what did you use to sweep with?
165:  Straw brooms with bell bottoms Straw brooms every year. {NW} It'd be good ones.
Interviewer:  Yeah?
165:  She has stick brooms but she get straw broom.
Interviewer:  Oh a stick broom? What is it now, a stick broom is the kind that just has the handle
165:  #1 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 right? # The straw broom was all of
165:  straw.
Interviewer:  All in
165:  straw yes. We go under the bed and everywhere.
Interviewer:  Well you had to bend over to do that one more didn't you?
165:  Not with them big long straw brooms. In them times you didn't have rugs on the floor.
Interviewer:  Okay. If the door is open and you don't want it that way you might tell someone to
165:  Close the door.
Interviewer:  Okay and what do you call a If a house is made of wood Now this one is made out of
165:  blocks.
Interviewer:  Alright and up in the top part of it there's a little bit of wood
165:  Yes well, wood
Interviewer:  And what about uh those houses made of wood that the boards sort of Lap over each other?
165:  Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's the kind we lived in
Interviewer:  What did you call that? Do you remember what they called that kind if board?
165:  {X} board
Interviewer:  Okay. How was that?
165:  {X} board outside {X} board.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh If uh If you took uh your Y-You said that maybe you had clothes hanging up on the nails And if you were going to uh to do some carpentry you'd say I took the hammer and I?
165:  Nailed
Interviewer:  Okay and uh Um do you uh you drive? Yourself or no? Who drives uh you? We saw a car out here is that?
165:  Uh my daughter.
Interviewer:  And if You if you're going downtown you might say well my daughter's going to?
165:  Drive.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh If if sh-she took you downtown yesterday you'd say well she?
165:  Took me downtown.
Interviewer:  She?
165:  Took me to town.
Interviewer:  Okay well uh What about using drive ever would you say yesterday she dri- everyday she drives me downtown yesterday she dr-
165:  I'd say drove that's what
Interviewer:  #1 Okay #
165:  #2 I'd say #
Interviewer:  And uh I-I like to to go for a ride if she knows I like to go to ride every day she has
165:  {D: Pulled her weight}.
Interviewer:  Okay but if she's uh taking you driving in the car you might say Every day she has, for years she has?
165:  She, she had {X}.
Interviewer:  Okay uh And what do you call the part that covers the house? {X} Outside?
165:  Um The roof. The roof no the roof The roof of the house.
Interviewer:  Okay how's that?
165:  The roof of the house.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh What about the little thing the edge uh that carries the water off?
165:  The eave.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about a place up there where the maybe the house is in an L shape and there might do a place where the two uh roofs come together. What would you call that?
Interviewer:  Wait a minute the.
165:  I forgot now what they call that.
Interviewer:  Would you, it might be valley?
165:  Yeah valley yeah. The valley.
Interviewer:  What is that on? {NS} What about a little building that maybe was used to store wood?
165:  Wood house. They would have a wood house.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh A place they might keep tools out on the farm?
165:  We had a tool house.
Interviewer:  Okay would that ever be built on the side of the barn?
165:  No that'd be out yonder from out the barn.
Interviewer:  Okay what about any other buildings Now you didn't have an indoors you didn't have a bathroom.
165:  #1 No. #
Interviewer:  #2 then. # What did you call it when it was built out back somewhere?
165:  Out there, closet.
Interviewer:  The closet?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Yeah? More than the the outhouse or the Privy or?
165:  Yeah there, some of them said out to the privy.
Interviewer:  But you all said out to the
165:  #1 To the closet. #
Interviewer:  #2 closet. # Mm-hmm. Was that kind of a little nicer word maybe than than Privy or outhouse or toilet?
165:  I ain't really sure.
Interviewer:  Uh huh. That was the one your mother maybe.
165:  Yes ma'am.
Interviewer:  {X} are like these. Okay. If you have troubles and
Auxiliary:  {NS} Five Two
Interviewer:  Okay. Okay how would you say it like uh if uh if uh If somebody was telling you about everything sad, like they wanted sympathy or something like that And uh Things are hard for everybody and you want to talk about uh you know you, maybe you're going to say well Everybody has troubles, you might say well {NS}
165:  I'd say well I'm sorry.
Interviewer:  Yeah? But you might say well uh {NS} I've got my problems too.
165:  That's right.
Interviewer:  Well, how would you say it?
165:  I'd say I have my problems.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  Everybody has them.
Interviewer:  Everybody has 'em yeah, sure. And uh if there's some strange sound and you're asking somebody if if they heard it, how would you say that? What was that? Did you?
165:  What's that? Did you hear it?
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh. During the night, you, there was something strange And you say last night At about 1 o'clock I
165:  I heard them noise.
Interviewer:  Okay, and somebody might say, well you know Every night this week, I've
165:  Heard the same noise.
Interviewer:  {NW} And if you know a person uh If I ask you if you know someone And you might say Uh no I don't know him but I've
165:  Heard about him.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh If uh um If a friend came back to town And another friend had been visiting with him Somebody might ask you Have you seen him yet? You might say no, I?
165:  I haven't seen him.
Interviewer:  And uh They might say, has you brother seen him yet? You might say no
165:  No, he ain't said nothing about it.
Interviewer:  Okay. He didn't s- uh and if uh something you do every day uh like maybe go for a walk, I'd say you go for a walk everyday you might
165:  #1 Say yeah I #
Interviewer:  #2 say #
165:  go everyday.
Interviewer:  Alright uh and uh Does your neighbor walk every day?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  No she...
165:  She don't walk every day.
Interviewer:  Okay And uh you might say um um Does your brother like ice cream? yes he?
165:  Yeah he do.
Interviewer:  And uh You might smoke {X} well I don't smoke But he...?
165:  Yeah I say yeah I smoke.
Interviewer:  Okay and he...?
165:  He do too.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} and uh If, what about a man lets his farm get all run down, and seems to not care. You might say to someone who asks I really don't know but he just...? ...to care.
165:  He just don't work or something.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  And uh, um If you've been trying to make your mind up about something um, oh, you might say well I've been thinking Could you finish that?
165:  I'd tell them I'm thinking bout it And I don't know yet.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh if um Somebody uh um maybe one of the children or one of you neighbors or something does something that you don't like and you might uh uh wonder uh what makes them do that? How would you say, I don't...?
165:  I'd say I don't out there like he ain't right.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh, I don't know what...?
165:  paling
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. he's sick or something Okay. And uh What about if you have uh heard people talking about him? You might say uh well uh I don't know that he does that, but people...?
165:  People just, they do more out than they do around home anyway.
Interviewer:  Okay. And you might say uh that uh you live in uh a block
165:  House.
Interviewer:  And there are several other...?
165:  Living {X} Brick houses
Interviewer:  Brick what?
165:  Brick houses {NS}
Interviewer:  And uh what about a place where they kept corn? on the farm.
165:  Outside in the crib.
Interviewer:  Okay. Any other words for a building where they kept different kinds of grain? Or a place for wheat. Did they have a separate building for that?
165:  Yes um They done post right round here and raised them. The wheat and they raised oats.
Interviewer:  Okay. #1 Where would they put #
165:  #2 stock #
Interviewer:  Where would they put the oats?
165:  They put it in the barn.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh What about the peanuts? Where did they store the peanuts?
165:  Put 'em on a stack out in the field. And, now that's what they used to do long time ago and thrashed 'em When they got dry. I had to pick up peanuts for a five ton stack.
Interviewer:  How big was the stack?
165:  uh about That high right there Big and about four about four from here {X} Room we put about fourteen rows to the stack And we'll set 'em on each side.
Interviewer:  Sure. How many, how long would it take you to g- to gather a stack?
165:  I have put up, if a person a good worker can put up twenty stacks Put it up nice and right. Can put up twenty-six stacks a day when he be work he don't be play.
Interviewer:  {NW}
165:  Well I had some boys and I knowed some young men could put up forty stacks a day but they be pulling more than running I have told them twenty-five {X} {X} on my shoulder. Pull forty don't pull for me now. They'd pull the {X} on the top
Interviewer:  Now, this is corn?
165:  Yes ma'am. {X} from corn {X} Up in barns Then you have to tote it and it's hauling Stack it up half of the stock to eat what they could save and farm I don't know {X}.
Interviewer:  And if you told somebody you did that you'd say, well yesterday I...? twenty...? how would you say that?
165:  Well yesterday we, I'd say we yesterday when we had to get get. You know they pull the {X} and let it stay two or three days and take
Interviewer:  #1 How did they pull it? #
165:  #2 and hang. #
Interviewer:  Did they cut it off or
165:  No. Cut it down the strip Put three or four barns #1 three or four- #
Interviewer:  #2 We took the leaves off it. #
165:  Uh huh.
Interviewer:  Strip the leaves?
165:  And tied them And when they dry Wanna go ahead and tie, put about six of them together and throw 'em over there on a line And that'll be a bum. One bum and then you take up when you Then it be something coming on the highway we be taking it up I put twenty five bum {X}.
Interviewer:  {NS}
165:  These {X} card.
Interviewer:  Did that, that left, just left the stalk sticking up out in the the field?
165:  Yes the stalk and the corn
Interviewer:  And um What happened to the stalks?
165:  Nothing. They stay there until the corn got ready to pull.
Interviewer:  Oh, the ear was left on it. {NS} And then what did you call that very top stuff on the corn, that little
165:  Uh that was, that's the {D: tassel}.
Interviewer:  Uh huh. and uh around the ear is the...? The leaves that are around the ear of corn that you have to pull off
165:  #1 The shuck. #
Interviewer:  #2 those are? # And what about that little fine, thread-like stuff That's on the ear?
165:  Silk. We called it silk.
Interviewer:  And uh Well that's interesting. That was the leaves then that were stripped off that way. uh were green.
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  And then they gathered that in for, uh, what did they call it, hay or fodder...?
165:  Fodder. {X} that they get off the stalk they called it fodder. But then they didn't bother the shuck of the corn you know until they come and got.
Interviewer:  Right okay well then they came and picked the corn, what happened to that stalk That was left?
165:  Oh well they cut that Tear that stalk cut and cut that stalk up.
Interviewer:  For feed or?
165:  Stayed on the ground.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the top part of the barn where you put the things up there would be called a...?
165:  Up in the north they'll put those {X} stuck up in the north.
Interviewer:  Okay and what about The, you said they didn't have much wheat around here, what about the uh the The oat uh business. How did they go about gathering that a long time ago?
165:  They cut it And then threshed it.
Interviewer:  They cut it by, with a machine?
165:  {X} they called it. But now you see these Cuts it in it and steer it. You thresh it go in the sack. {X}
Interviewer:  All at one time?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And when they used to cut it with a binding machine it would go through?
165:  Yessum Ground and they cut it.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
165:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  And then what happened?
165:  Get a {D: towel} Bundle 'em, throw it off, Pick 'em up.
Interviewer:  And you go through and get the bundles and do what?
165:  If they, when they got really thresh 'em They thresh it you know {X} You need a lot of {X} in there and let it threshed it.
Interviewer:  And that separated the...? The seed...
165:  #1 {X}, #
Interviewer:  #2 the other- #
165:  And then in the straw.
Interviewer:  And what did they do with the straw?
165:  We made ticks out of the straw, you can go get it and make You know, put the straw ticks and, on the bed
Interviewer:  Sure. Did they pile up out in the field or anything or
165:  Oh it'll be out there. You can go out there and get it you know. The wind had scattered it about.
Interviewer:  {X}.
165:  Because when they got the Oat off of it There's nothing more wheat that much sometimes.
Interviewer:  There's no leaves or anything?
165:  Nothing to {X} You know, move around in there but it wasn't even much.
Interviewer:  And uh you made a The ticks out of it did you put in on the beds and always you put on top of it you usually had a?
165:  A cotton {D: tin} a make up cotton tin you know. Cotton, get cotton from the gin And uh made it up.
Interviewer:  Uh you did that more than uh than the kind with feathers?
165:  Uh well there was a lot of folks that like didn't have feathers.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
165:  My mama didn't like them. {X} have a stroke to get the {X}.
Interviewer:  Yeah?
165:  And a cotton tick don't. They go to the gin, I don't know what kinda cotton there really was Cotton that they Refused to go into the pail {X}.
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  And smack the side of it.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um if um {NS} What other kind of hay did they have around here? What, uh to feed the cattle?
165:  Hay. Grass grow, we had made hay ticks too.
Interviewer:  yeah? And uh if uh Did they cut that down and {X} did store that in the barn to feeds the cattle in the winter? Yes ma'am well a big field of hay Gr-Grass come up good and they cut it down and bale it. And did they ever pile that out in the field? Bale it in a baler Like they used to bale peanuts. uh huh. They didn't rake it up and pile out it in the field that much? Not in stacks?
165:  Just baled it.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  Was wild.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh What about the uh, a place that you kept horses?
165:  When my daddy kept his horse he had a Stall for him to stay in and eat in And he had a lot for him to run around nice big as This yard out back.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  Wanted to come out and run around
Interviewer:  And um Where were the cows milked?
165:  She had a stall too.
Interviewer:  In-in the summer, maybe it was real hot, did they ever milk her outside?
165:  I milked her outside.
Interviewer:  You didn't have a special place to do that?
165:  Well they had one that kicked or something like that They had they put in a They called it um {X} Make it driveway and put a bowl behind and she couldn't kick.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Did you ever hear it called a milk gap or a milk pen, or a cow pen, or a cow gap or anything? Okay um And the hogs would be in a...? What'd you say?
165:  They'd be in a pen.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh Uh, a kind of farm or a type of farm that just had cows, what would you call that?
165:  They call that a cow farm.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh and what about, where did people keep the milk and butter before they had refrigeration?
165:  On the tables in cool places.
Interviewer:  What about a stream or something outside?
165:  Some people had little streams outside there where they could put it.
Interviewer:  But you all just kept it in somewhere in the...?
165:  When I was, mama's kitchen had a Window {X} You know these generic screens {X} cool air would come in.
Interviewer:  Uh huh. Okay uh Well what about the The place where you stored the you produce in the winter you said uh You had a shed like out in the garden built into the hills and put potatoes in and put other vegetables down like that?
165:  Yes ma'am, rutabagas and things like that. {X} the white potatoes put them under the house.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
165:  And I've tried this but just spread 'em out under the house.
Interviewer:  And they didn't have to put dirt over them?
165:  No they just throw them out under the house.
Interviewer:  They wouldn't freeze under that?
165:  No we {X}.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh Uh h-have you heard of dairy? Did you have?
165:  No not at that time. My daddy- I didn't have dairy but {B} always had cows.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
165:  It's a farm. You know you had a good milk cow to have.
Interviewer:  And uh how did, did he use that word?
165:  {B}
Interviewer:  Did they use that word?
165:  Milk cow?
Interviewer:  No, dairy.
165:  No.
Interviewer:  There's a newer word for
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um And the cows and uh hogs And so forth when they went out to graze, where would you say they went out to the?
165:  Pasture. {NS}
Interviewer:  House?
165:  Out in the pasture.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} And uh Did uh did they have any sheep around then?
165:  No. {NS}
Interviewer:  Um and what What did uh did you say you had to do to the cotton when it was little, you had to go out and. to get the weeds and stuff out of it.
165:  Chop cotton. {X} Bunched it.
Interviewer:  Bunched it? What was bunching it?
165:  Getting the gray sheen out.
Interviewer:  Oh.
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
165:  {X} I used to want a cotton picker. I hate to pick them out and my daddy made six to seven pound bales of cotton. Right over yonder over there.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
165:  But I, now I had one brother Would hold hands to help pick cotton in January.
Interviewer:  That way?
165:  Yes ma'am. {X}.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
165:  {X} People over here in town, picking cotton. {NS}
Interviewer:  But uh that was to, to what? What- where was that farm now, that out
165:  Turns out down {B} farm where we- I ain't ever lived nowhere but from there.
Interviewer:  Right.
165:  I lived over there.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  And married and stayed up there. With my husband, then folks, my mother-in-law, cooking for {D: McDonald's} And I stayed in the little old household over there on the side. About seven years {X}.
Interviewer:  Well then your, Your father and your husband worked for the experiment station.
165:  It wasn't experiment. My husband didn't. He didn't.
Interviewer:  Uh your, your
165:  My father went to doctor Sam and {X} But back with doctor {X} {X} Sons took it over after he died.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh What were, what were the things that you had to worry about trying to get rid of out in the cotton?
165:  Grit. {NS} Sand {D: spitter}. {NS}
Interviewer:  That was the worst one?
165:  Yeah worst time. {NS}
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} Uh were there any other weeds that you remember?
165:  Sometimes {X} would come up.
Interviewer:  {X}?
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  What would that, what did that one look like? {NS}
165:  Just got a lot of leaves about that big.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS}
165:  You have six sometimes go {X} {NS} {D: eat bunches of grass} {NS} cotton and {NS} Knock it you know so that the ground would be great to pick cotton and great to grow wheat. Folks who make cotton go a full week just to come around.
Interviewer:  Yeah. {X}
165:  That's right.
Interviewer:  Do you remember when the {X}?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Sure that was when, back in the Was that in the twenties? That was early thirties right?
165:  Uh yes. I was um I don't know when the Titanic sunk.
Interviewer:  Uh 1912 or thirteen.
165:  1912, you know what I was doing then?
Interviewer:  What?
165:  Replanting corn.
Interviewer:  And you heard that?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  That soon.
165:  Yes {X} {NS} Right away. {NS} {X}
Interviewer:  Well did you all-
165:  Fourteen day radio
Interviewer:  Did you hear about it uh from the radio or from the newspaper? How did that get around?
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  How?
165:  Newspaper.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  I don't think we had a radio then.
Interviewer:  Well uh, what did you uh- uh talking about the cotton, you said well that's a big
165:  Field of cotton.
Interviewer:  Mm.
165:  White. Oh. One side.
Interviewer:  Right and if it were not quite that big you might say well that's just a little.
165:  {X}. {NS}
Interviewer:  And what kind of fences would you have around the fields and patches, you say just {D: paving} fences around the garden?
165:  No {X}.
Interviewer:  Just didn't have the fence when they didn't have the ?
165:  Fenced no cotton. Peanut {D: like they won't fence} Unless some- somebody want to {D: turn their hogs in and they change up to peanut patch.}
Interviewer:  Okay, what kind of fence would they put around then?
165:  Wire.
Interviewer:  Okay. What about that kind that has a little sharp thing and one single wire above the other?
165:  Barbed wire.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh did you ever see those old-fashioned Did y'all ever have around here those fences that were sticks of wood like this that?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  You know what I'm talking
165:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 about? # Uh what did they call, you remember what they call those?
165:  No not really.
Interviewer:  Uh apparently some places they said rail fences or {X} fences, you just didn't have around then. Okay. And uh what about did you ever have uh any sort of fence made by picking up loose rock and stacking them up the {X}?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  Wasn't that much rock around here was there.
165:  No.
Interviewer:  Okay what about They have chickens?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh where did the chickens stay?
165:  They stayed in the hen house.
Interviewer:  And if you go ahead
165:  Come on out in the, get out in the morning in the yard. {X}.
Interviewer:  And if you wanted the hens to start laying Uh do you remember that they used to put something in her nest to try to fool her into thinking there was already an egg
165:  #1 Yes. #
Interviewer:  #2 there? # What'd they call that?
165:  Uh {NS} Called it a new, put a call in a nest egg, that's what it was, #1 a nest egg. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. # And what was it made out of, more like?
165:  Glass.
Interviewer:  And what do you call um Your best dishes? You might say well these are not my everyday things, these dishes are made out of.
165:  They say china.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  My daddy would {X}
Interviewer:  Right and uh What uh did you ever ever have a- a- one of those eggs to fool the hens made out of that?
165:  No we just, it was something glass like shine uh You know we used to beat up take a plate and beat up. Beat that up and throw it out and let the chickens Get that to them and it'll make them lay.
Interviewer:  Oh let them eat it?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Yeah? Okay and uh And you said that the bucket thing that went down in the well was kinda long, what like a couple of feet long?
165:  It was about that big arou- and, now in a boat where a ship boat where it'd be about like that. This thing be a little bit about that big.
Interviewer:  About eight, six or eight inches wide?
165:  And about that long.
Interviewer:  Oh about three or four feet long.
165:  Yes and it holds a good bucketful.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  But now that dug, dug together {X} You could look on in there and see the wall you know. And you can put them
Interviewer:  Okay did you ever see them with a bucket made out of wood? No?
165:  No. We didn't have that on our old days.
Interviewer:  Okay. Did you ever call a bucket a pail?
165:  Yeah sometime.
Interviewer:  What was it when it was a pail, how would it?
165:  It was a {D: Good galvanized uh}
Interviewer:  And would it have to do with the size of it really? Did he call it a pail, was it smaller or larger?
165:  No maybe like a water bucket or pail.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about the container that you use to carry food to the pigs, what would you call that?
165:  Slop bucket.
Interviewer:  And uh What did Did you then or do you now fry eggs in?
165:  Do I do it now?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
165:  Fry eggs in now. {X}
Interviewer:  I mean the container that y-
165:  Oh. Frying pan.
Interviewer:  Alright and was that the same thing that you used a long time ago?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh what about one that you maybe use in the fireplace then to cook in like that? Had legs on it.
165:  Well when I was there with my husband, mother was cooking on a Frying, a big ol' frying pan with legs to it and a lid.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
165:  She did cook the best food in that thing. I just couldn't cook in it. {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay did you, do you know spider for some kind of cooking utensil?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What was that, do you remember?
165:  It was Isn't I'm pretty sure we had one of 'em too.
Interviewer:  Yeah? Did you cook with it?
165:  No my mother cooked it.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  They had one.
Interviewer:  And you said that you did the washing or you made soap out in the yard with a big black
165:  Pot. With grease, meat grease and uh {D: hot eggs}. #1 {X}. #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: right}. # Right. What about uh if you heated water outside like that to wash clothes in?
165:  You boil them clothes outside.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh Well if it's not that big and if it were. Uh black and maybe smaller but still out of that same material and maybe use it on the stove to boil potatoes in, say what would you call that?
165:  Skillet um uh
Interviewer:  Kiln?
165:  Kiln. I remember kiln.
Interviewer:  How was it?
165:  Kiln.
Interviewer:  Alright. And uh what do you call the thing that you put flowers in? A
165:  Vase.
Interviewer:  A what?
165:  Vases.
Interviewer:  Alright and if it's outside, it's a A Maybe they grow in it.
165:  I know that you're talking about a flower pot.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what are th-the eating utensils that you put at the ends of each plate for meals? You put at the plate, you have to have a
165:  A knife and a fork.
Interviewer:  Okay and and what?
165:  Knife, fork, and spoon.
Interviewer:  Okay you might have one knife or might have uh several of 'em. And uh you might have one knife at the plate but then you might have more bigger ones maybe back in the kitchen you might have several different kinds of.
165:  Your cooks, forks and {X} chicken uh {X}
Interviewer:  And to cut with
165:  #1 And you #
Interviewer:  #2 it you have- #
165:  cut with that butcher knife.
Auxiliary:  Butcher what?
165:  Butcher knife.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh after, after meal you have to go and clean up, you have to go what
165:  Get the dishes.
Interviewer:  If they're all dirty you say well, I've gotta go and
165:  Have to go clean up the kitchen, I clean up {X}
Interviewer:  And that business about putting the dishes in the water and so forth you say that's gotta wash
165:  Wash the dishes.
Interviewer:  Alright and then if you pour the water on to get soap off that was
165:  Pour hot water on them to {NS} get the soap off.
Interviewer:  Okay and how did you call that? {D: Drin}
165:  {X} This sure is This sure is a lot of dishes {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay, you wash 'em and then you r-
165:  Scald 'em.
Interviewer:  Scald them okay. And what is, what did you call that uh cloth or rag that you use to wash 'em with?
165:  Dish rag.
Interviewer:  And you dry 'em with.
165:  Dry cloth.
Interviewer:  And you wash your face with a
165:  Wash rag.
Interviewer:  And after you bathe, you dry yourself off with a
165:  Towel.
Interviewer:  And uh if it was so cold that uh the, the water pipes got uh the water got solid, you might say well the pipes
165:  {D: burst}
Interviewer:  Okay and uh People used to buy flour now you get in maybe a five or ten pound bag, but they used to buy it in a
165:  {X} Twenty-five, fifty, that's the way my daddy did it.
Interviewer:  Okay
165:  #1 Had to #
Interviewer:  #2 and did #
165:  get a big sack, we eat biscuits then. Them kids don't eat biscuits now
Interviewer:  I think they do in some other {X}.
165:  You take that and tell them I used to take a Twenty-five pound sack of flour They were two weeks and now They were five pound sacks of flour and go.
Interviewer:  Forever.
165:  Go on, going in about a month, they they run out and then- then they now they like hotcakes. They wanted me to cook them often.
Interviewer:  And that's that's the kind that you put uh pour over 'em?
165:  Pour with your butter and {X} butter and oh.
Interviewer:  And something sweet?
165:  Syrup if you want it.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh Did you ever buy It in uh flour in a big wooden thing?
165:  No I've only had a bag that you empty the flour in.
Interviewer:  But you kept it in there? Okay. And what about a What uh did molasses come in if you bought it in large quantities? {X} Did you buy it or you made it?
165:  My daddy made it.
Interviewer:  What'd he keep it in?
165:  Big barrels. Out in the smoke house.
Interviewer:  And then
165:  Draw it out the barrel.
Interviewer:  What?
165:  And they draw it out the barrel.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} And uh What about lard? What did you keep lard in?
165:  {D: Lard jam}.
Interviewer:  Okay did you ever say a stand for any of those containers? Lard stand or a molasses stand or a
165:  Nah.
Interviewer:  And what do you use to pour liquid into a container that has got a small opening?
165:  We used the funnel.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh if you're, to get a horse to go faster if you're riding in a buggy, use a
165:  Whip.
Interviewer:  And uh now if you buy fruit at the store, the grocer might put 'em in a
165:  Bag.
Interviewer:  Made out of
165:  Paper.
Interviewer:  And what about those larger ones, a long time ago, they were not made out of paper but Bigger things that you bought, maybe uh flour or a meal or sugar, fifty pounds of it, what kind of a container would that uh That wouldn't be a paper
165:  I didn't get that any You got, you got sugar in a bag.
Interviewer:  What would it be made out of?
165:  Paper.
Interviewer:  Paper bags? I was thinking maybe it might be made out of cloth.
165:  No it was made out of paper bags.
Interviewer:  Okay what about some kind of a a container that they used on the farm, maybe to carry potatoes or or fertilizer or manure or big coarse grain things.
165:  To carry potatoes
Interviewer:  Or maybe they're shipped in, or feed, might might buy feed in a a big, a big kind of sack.
165:  Yeah the big trophy sacks.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} And uh that, the amount of meal that they take to uh to the mill Did they take their own amount of corn, that they take to the mill to get, they take their own corn?
165:  Yes ma'am, they take twenty-five bushels of corn at a time, you know everybody sell it two or three bushels of corn sent to the mill.
Interviewer:  You all sit around and do that together? Whole family or just some of the kids or
165:  They had a grinder, my daddy. They just You know, {X} well you take one or two of them and put the grinder. You know, with your corn {X}.
Interviewer:  Okay well what did you have to turn that
165:  #1 Yep, turn it #
Interviewer:  #2 or something? #
165:  don't shell it
Interviewer:  Oh you didn't have to do it by hand.
165:  No you had a
Interviewer:  Okay. Okay and uh what about the quantity of corn taken to the mill at one time, did you hear it called a turn {X} get a turner mill?
165:  I don't know whether it'd be a {X} be a turn but sometimes they would buy it on the fleece it'd get ready of daddy going to the mill. Water mill, water grind mill and everybody get corn shed up {NS} Even if you didn't share your corn, you {X} like it would, you wet and they kept the corn and send you {X} gonna get it much back.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
165:  They shed their own corn and everything, they got that practice.
Interviewer:  {X} Okay and uh eh when the light burns out in an electric lamp you say, well I've got to put in a new
165:  Uh
Interviewer:  A new, what kind of bulb?
165:  Light bulb.
Interviewer:  And if you carried the washing to put it out on the line you may carry it out in a
165:  In a In the washing. {X} Foot tub would I carry mine out. {X}.
Interviewer:  You ever, ever had something that was woven like
165:  #1 Like a #
Interviewer:  #2 straw? #
165:  a basket. Usually had a basket.
Interviewer:  Okay and what do nails maybe come in smaller than a barrel but made of wood.
165:  They come in a keg.
Interviewer:  And uh What is it that may go around outside of a barrel or a keg to hold the wood in? What?
165:  The hoop.
Interviewer:  Okay and if you say there are two or three
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Two or three
165:  Hooks.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh what do you put the top of a bottle to keep the liquid from running out?
165:  Stopper.
Interviewer:  Okay what was that made of?
165:  Corks and and
Interviewer:  And a musical instrument that children like to to play?
165:  Harp.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about the kind you hold between your teeth?
165:  A bunch of tunes {X}
Interviewer:  And what was that? How was that?
165:  What the? Aw {X}
Interviewer:  A zumba? Yeah Jew's Harp?
165:  Something like that.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Zumba that's the kind of noise they made.
165:  Yes made a zoom and got it out.
Interviewer:  Did you ever play one?
165:  No I never played on.
Interviewer:  But uh
165:  I had the boys play them.
Interviewer:  Your boys do?
165:  Yeah, my my bo- My brothers,
Interviewer:  Uh-huh, that's an older toy.
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh What do you use to drive a nail in with?
165:  Hammer.
Interviewer:  And if you have a wagon with two horses, what's the long wooden thing between the horse?
165:  Tongue.
Interviewer:  And those two things on a buggy? That the horse uh is in between, to the buggy?
165:  That's the {X}.
Interviewer:  You have to back him up between the
165:  {X} put 'em in through there.
Interviewer:  Shaft?
165:  Shaft, that's right, shaft? Put 'em in the shaft.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what do you call the parts of maybe the wagon wheel or the buggy wheel? Were- how were they? Those things that go out or
165:  The spokes would be in it. And that {X} A rubber one on the out, some of 'em had a rubber on the outside.
Interviewer:  What did they call that around the outside?
165:  A rubber.
Interviewer:  Uh are sometimes
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  And uh If it were made of metal Maybe like on the wagons, it'll be the wagon
165:  Wheel.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and the, the outside part of it might be the rim or?
165:  Yes. Rim.
Interviewer:  What about that wooden part just inside the rim, you remember a word for that?
165:  Yeah no I don't.
Interviewer:  You ever hear it called felly or felloe?
165:  I don't even know.
Interviewer:  Doesn't remember about that okay. Okay what is it that uh the horses hitched to are are, to pull on, a bar of wood that the traces are fastened back to? Put it on a plow or the wagon?
165:  Singletree.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh if you have two horses and each one of 'em has a singletree, it'll be a um The thing that both of the single trees are hitched to
165:  To each hole {X} Whatever it was.
Interviewer:  Right, did you ever hear a, that one is behind the single, the two singles called the doubletree?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Or was that double?
165:  Doubletree.
Interviewer:  Okay and if you see a man with a load of wood in his wagon, he's driving along, what would you say he's doing?
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Okay but if he's taking it from one place to another, you say well he's out today
165:  Hauling wood.
Interviewer:  And uh What do you break the ground first with in the Spring?
165:  They used to break it with a Had a plow and disk plow.
Interviewer:  What kind?
165:  Disk plow, used to break 'em with that.
Interviewer:  Okay you remember any other kinds of soils?
165:  No they had they just plowed {X} turn up the land with a plow then. They have tractors now.
Interviewer:  Sure. And what about after they plowed, uh to make, to break the ground up even finer, what might they use?
165:  They'd use a
Interviewer:  Harrow?
165:  The harrow.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  They have a
Interviewer:  Different kinds of them?
165:  Yes. Harrows. {X} If you go a while then some of them do. {X}
Interviewer:  Ya some of them plow one {X} and some two?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what is that in the middle of the or under the wagon that the wheels are fastened to on each side? That through the middle is the
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  Uh no, I mean I think it sticks out in front I mean like if there's two wheels here and two wheels here, the thing that runs between the two wheels. Axle or ax?
165:  Axle. They had axles.
Interviewer:  Okay. Okay and back when your father used to cut wood like for the fireplace uh, you remember some sort of a thing like this maybe, there were two of 'em set up and you only get them if you saw it off?
165:  Put uh put on that the saw.
Interviewer:  What did he call that?
165:  {D: All his horses.}
Interviewer:  Horses? Well would it be a A a V-shaped thing turned upside down like this or would it be an X?
165:  Something like that.
Interviewer:  And he called #1 that #
165:  #2 He'd # he'd put the log in between there and saw if off you know Keep putting it on the saw.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear that called a saw buck or an X spring or?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  Okay, and uh To uh To fix your hair, you use a comb and a
165:  Brush.
Interviewer:  And uh if you sharpen a straight razor on a leather thing,
165:  That's right.
Interviewer:  What did you call that?
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh to put in a revolver uh You use what kind of, what did you put in a revolver, a gun?
165:  Bullets.
Interviewer:  Okay and um Do you remember another word uh that meant the, the whole thing like that uh cart? Courage?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  You just said bullet?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Did y'all have guns around?
165:  Had a shotgun.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
165:  Shells. Was their name.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about a plank that was laid over something that the children played on?
165:  See-saw.
Interviewer:  And what about one that was
165:  #1 {D: Jump spring board.} #
Interviewer:  #2 a # What?
165:  Spring board.
Interviewer:  How was that?
165:  {X} One on this and on the other and then jump. This would jump on that end about there and then both of them would jump. Spring board.
Interviewer:  Okay. And did you ever have something like that that was maybe nailed on both ends and they stood or sat in the middle and jumped on? No?
165:  No. I don't remember that.
Interviewer:  Okay what about something a plate that's anchored in the middle and it would go around and around?
165:  {X} See-saw and sometimes they, somebody push you a ride and you could push you
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
165:  #2 around. # Sitting on there you jam one on there and then It takes you around and you just stop and just Do up and down
Interviewer:  Okay, and what do you uh call it when you tie two ropes to a tree limb and
165:  S- Swing
Interviewer:  And what do you carry coal in?
165:  Scuttle.
Interviewer:  And what do you call that uh that goes from the stove to the chimney?
165:  Stove pipe.
Interviewer:  And uh a little thing that you carried maybe bricks or heavy things in, had one little wheel in the front and two handles. You push it along. Maybe around in the yard or out in the farm. Had a little wheel on a
165:  Uh
Interviewer:  Not too big, one man or one person could push it.
165:  Wheelbarrow.
Interviewer:  Okay how was that?
165:  Wheelbarrow.
Interviewer:  And uh What do you sharpen a tool, a scythe or something like that on? Some- You could move from one place to another.
165:  They had a, you mean sharpen on
Interviewer:  Farm implement. Maybe an ax
165:  Uh-huh they had a grinding stone, they called it.
Interviewer:  Okay And if there was one, was a uh how'd you say that one?
165:  A grinding stone, you cut it, it's a big ol'
Interviewer:  Wheel?
165:  I guess you turn it and it whole ax on there and turn it and turn it on that side.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and turn it
165:  Sharp.
Interviewer:  And they poured water on it, didn't they?
165:  Yes they poured a little water on it, yes they did.
Interviewer:  Did they have one that they could move That, that one was fixed in one place, wasn't it?
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Did they have one they could move around? Don't remember? Um Oh Okay and now you used to maybe walk or or go in the buggy but now when you go down town you ride in the
165:  Car.
Interviewer:  And uh If something is squeaking to fix it so it won't squeak, you may put some
165:  Grease on it. Sometimes you
Interviewer:  Okay And you have to have that done to the car sometimes.
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  And your daughter might say well I took the car down yesterday and had it.
165:  Looked at.
Interviewer:  And had it but if they put that lubrication on, how would you say that, I had it gr-
165:  I told one, I had it down and told 'em the {X}
Interviewer:  Okay and uh If um if they put that uh fixed the-the-the grease on it, you'd say well I hope they did a good job, they grea-
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  How'd you say that? They
165:  They greased it good.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if you get grease all over your hands, you might say, look at my hands they're all
165:  Full of axle grease, you gotta go
Interviewer:  All grease?
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  All greasy?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  How would you say it?
165:  I'd say Look at my hands, now I got greased and messed up.
Interviewer:  Okay. Greasy?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  How'd you say greasy?
165:  Greased.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh instead of something heavy like grease, you might put all of it on a door hinge
165:  Well {NS} Good {X}
Interviewer:  Um Uh What did you used to use to burn in lamps?
165:  Kerosene.
Interviewer:  Okay You're gonna call {X}? {NS}
165:  Kerosene, would I, would
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh Ruth did you ever fix a homemade
165:  #1 Flambeau. #
Interviewer:  #2 lamp? # Huh?
165:  Flambeau.
Interviewer:  Yeah, you fix 'em?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Sure, Uh that's interesting, I never saw one of them, I've just heard about 'em here. Inside the tire of the car is the inner
165:  Tube.
Interviewer:  And uh The Do you ever know much about boats?
165:  No, not too much.
Interviewer:  Your father, your brothers never built a boat?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  Okay Uh do you know if if they're going to put one into the water, how they were saying, how they might say that, they're going down to
165:  I don't know anything #1 about boats. #
Interviewer:  #2 Just don't know # about boats. Did they ever go fishing?
165:  I know I didn't like fishing, I don't fish. {X}
Interviewer:  Do you know the names of any fish that there might be around in the ponds or the lakes, the lakes around here?
165:  {X} up there.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
165:  In this pond. I'm seventy-four and I ain't ever been on a creek. I don't like fishing. {NW}
Interviewer:  Yeah? {NW} How about that.
165:  No ma'am, never been on a creek in my life.
Interviewer:  Is it or? Okay and then Do you know what kind of a boat they call it, little flat bottom one?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh If um If the child is just learning to dress himself the mother might bring his clothes in to him and say now here now Put 'em on.
165:  Tell him to put on his clothes.
Interviewer:  And if she wanted to tell him that she had them there she'd say Your clothes.
165:  Just put on your clothes so we can eat or so you can go.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh how would you say Here they are, here are your clothes.
165:  Here are your clothes, put 'em on so we can go.
Interviewer:  Okay. And If um uh your you hear much about the election round here?
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  Yeah. So uh Who do they think around here who do they think is gonna be governor?
165:  I don't know. {NW} I don't know.
Interviewer:  Uh You ever heard anything about Jimmy Carter maybe running for vice president?
165:  No. {X} He he said he would, we would all want a {X} good while ago when he come back you gotta let 'em know. What he gonna do but I I I just #1 Tired, I get tired, get tired of 'em #
Interviewer:  #2 Just any? #
165:  talking to me {X}.
Interviewer:  Okay well um If I were to ask you um Uh you know, you hear a lot of people who have ideas about this if I were to say well uh Do you think Jimmy Carter could be uh nominated for vice president you might say well No I don't think so but there Some people who what?
165:  {X}.
Interviewer:  They're what?
165:  There's some people who would.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh if uh If a little boy comes in and he has a dog with him and the dog seems afraid of him and he might uh uh and you want to pet him and he runs off and you might tell him, send your dog over here I something, I just want to pet him.
165:  I tell him send him here, let me see, can I get close to him and pet him.
Interviewer:  Yeah he might say uh I, going to hurt him I
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Okay. And um If you're talking about the old days Folks would say everything was better, you might say Well the good old days, how would you say that?
165:  {X} The old days was good.
Interviewer:  Okay. If somebody says, if you were not downtown yesterday, somebody says you Was that you I saw downtown yesterday, you might say no it
165:  But if I wasn't there, then no it wasn't me.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um If a woman wanted to buy a dress of a certain color she might take a little square of cloth along to use as a just a little bit of it, she wanted to check and might say just a...
165:  Little sample.
Interviewer:  Okay, and if somebody sees a dress that she likes, she thinks it's very becoming, she might say that's a very...
165:  Pretty dress.
Interviewer:  And what do you wear over your dress maybe in the kitchen?
165:  Apron.
Interviewer:  And to sign your name in ink, you write with a
165:  Pen.
Interviewer:  And to fasten a baby's diaper you use a
165:  Pin.
Interviewer:  And uh Soup that you buy, usually comes in what kind of can uh? Made out of what uh?
165:  Tin.
Interviewer:  What?
165:  Tin.
Interviewer:  Alright, and it's a can made out of what, usually comes in what kind of a can a... What do you call that metal that it's made out of, maybe it's made out of... I've got to throw away all those cans, there's a lot of some kind of cans. Not uh, maybe not aluminum, but just Are uh you Long time ago if you got a drink at the pump or the well you might use a, what kind of a cup?
165:  Tin cup.
Interviewer:  Okay. And a- a- a dime is worth two nickels or you might also say a dime is worth. So many pennies.
165:  Ten pennies.
Interviewer:  And uh when you go out in the winter time if it's cold you might have to put on a
165:  Oh well you couldn't see me go {X}.
Interviewer:  You wrapped up?
165:  Ooh oh my I was cold. I had a little A my coat and everything. It's the reason {X} gave me his old bedroll you know. {NW} And he just ride to put in all the old coats in there. I didn't get cold. {X} Was I too much cause I had a pretty good piece of roll
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  A lot of ties. And how come you didn't stay home this morning?
Interviewer:  But you always went?
165:  Uh-huh oh we went {X} Oh I liked it {X}
Interviewer:  Pretty unusual now I think.
165:  Yes. {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  Well you've done well.
165:  I can't do it now, no.
Interviewer:  {X} Okay and if you're uh complementing somebody they have on the coat and you like the buttons, you might say, that coat has
165:  Pretty buttons.
Interviewer:  Where? Pretty buttons?
165:  In the front.
Interviewer:  Uh would you, would you be more likely to say Pretty buttons on it or pretty buttons onto it?
165:  I'd say pretty buttons on it.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NW} And sometimes a- a man uh but would have his shirt on but between his shirt and his coat, he'd have something that didn't button down the front.
165:  Dress.
Interviewer:  Okay and a man also wore on his legs he wore...
165:  Boots.
Interviewer:  Okay but the cloth thing. That matched his suit, it'd be the coat and the... The bottom part of a of a suit would be his...
165:  Pant.
Interviewer:  Okay and what about uh. Uh It's the one that you wore to work in, it had like a bib.
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  And uh If you're outdoors in the winter, maybe working without your coat and somebody might come to you and say here I've Your coat, I've what? I've...
165:  Took here your coat. You need it on.
Interviewer:  Okay I've... I what it to ya? I've...
165:  I brought you your coat, you need it on, it's cold.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh if it was the wrong package, somebody might say. I sent that to you by mistake, please...
165:  Return it.
Interviewer:  Or br-
165:  Or bring it.
Interviewer:  Okay and and then you might say well I, yesterday I Out to your house, I
165:  Brought in you one there.
Interviewer:  Okay, and you might say Well that coat won't fit year, last year it...
165:  Just right, it's too little this year.
Interviewer:  Okay, it's it, it won't fit now, but last year it...
165:  Fitted.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if your uh old clothes are worn out a man might say well I've gotta go buy mm
165:  A suit.
Interviewer:  Okay not an old suit but a...
165:  A new suit, buy me a new suit?
Interviewer:  Okay, and if you still have a lot of things in the pockets uh they might say that they all
165:  {X} out.
Interviewer:  Okay {NW} and if you wash something and uh it gets much smaller you might say well it...
165:  Drawed up.
Interviewer:  Okay and another way to say that?
165:  Shrank.
Interviewer:  Okay and I washed it yesterday and it.
165:  It shrunk up.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh Lately it seems that every time I wash something it has...
165:  Shrunken up, shrinks up.
Interviewer:  Okay And how do you describe it about maybe to one of your your granddaughters who likes to get ready for parties, you say she likes to
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Okay but uh she enjoys the getting ready. Making up and everything, how do you, do you have a word to say uh all of the things she does like fixing her hair, fixing her makeup, fixing her clothes, she likes to...
165:  She likes She likes to {D; get ready on time}.
Interviewer:  Okay and to to dress up or to fix up or to pretty up? Any of those words?
165:  Guess she likes to be pretty.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh what do you uh What do you call this?
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Okay and what about smaller one it's just carry a change in? Just for coins.
165:  I don't know what you're talking about.
Interviewer:  Or maybe just slip it in your pocket you know or a little
165:  That's handbag, that's a pocketbook ain't it?
Interviewer:  Okay, if it has a little clasp on it. You might say it's just a little... Purse?
165:  Mm-hmm, a little purse or a
Interviewer:  Do you use that? No? You don't really use that, you say uh
165:  After that there's a little pocketbook, and that's a handbag.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if it's a little bitty one you just say handbag?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what does a woman wear around her wrist?
165:  A Bracelet
Interviewer:  And uh around her neck maybe a
165:  Locket.
Interviewer:  Or if it's beads you might say she's got on a pretty...
165:  Pearls.
Interviewer:  Okay Would you uh, the little thing that is strung on, that'll go around her neck, you might say a... uh beads, would you say uh, she's got on a long a something of beads?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  A long
165:  Long row of beads.
Interviewer:  Row of beads?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  String of beads?
165:  String of beads.
Interviewer:  Did you ever, what about if you're talking about pearls? Just the same?
165:  Yeah same thing. You know we used to just get beads and string 'em.
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  Get 'em off a old {X} and some old {X}
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  Just have a long string of beads.
Interviewer:  Okay and uh what do men wear to hold up their trousers?
165:  Belt, galluses
Interviewer:  Okay and uh those things that fasten on the tops of overalls are... {NS}
165:  Buckles on there. {X}
Interviewer:  Okay and if it's just, if it's on like they wear with a Sunday suit, maybe is it the same word as it is on the overalls?
165:  It ain't like that on a Sunday suit.
Interviewer:  And wouldn't you call it the same thing? Call both of them galluses?
165:  These suspenders.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh if it's raining you have an
165:  Umbrella.
Interviewer:  And what's the last thing you put on the bed when you make it up?
165:  Spread.
Interviewer:  And at the very head of the bed you put your head on a...
165:  Pillow.
Interviewer:  And what about the old one that used to go all the way across the bed?
165:  {D:Post}
Interviewer:  Okay They have them?
165:  Yes ma'am.
Interviewer:  Uh And uh what do you put on a bed for warmth?
165:  We used to have quilts. but blankets now.
Interviewer:  And uh what about uh if a little a little makeshift bed for children that you might fix on the floor Say I'll just fix her a little...
165:  Pallet.
Interviewer:  And uh if you're talking about very rich land, you might say that field, the land over there is really very
165:  Rich.
Interviewer:  Okay have you got another word for rich? Fertile? Fer-?
165:  Well no that's fertilizer, what you put on it.
Interviewer:  Okay, but you don't say that it's just fertile.
165:  It's just rich, that's rich land over there.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh now most of the land around here is very level isn't it?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Uh Do you have any different words to describe this as opposed to maybe up further when it has more rises and things in it? Maybe up north where it goes through the mountains?
165:  Well I would describe it as um level and that's hilly.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about the uh, the land right around the a little uh um. Well what are the different kinds of uh water that runs around here, I know you didn't mess with them very much. What's the nearest river around here Rue?
165:  Uh.
Interviewer:  Is it the Flint?
165:  {D: The Rue,} I think Flint, yes, Flint's the nearest river.
Interviewer:  Okay and what's
165:  #1 Muckalee. #
Interviewer:  #2 something # The
165:  #1 That and the #
Interviewer:  #2 what? #
165:  Muckalee.
Interviewer:  What is the Muckalee?
165:  Oh this water running from one place {X}
Interviewer:  But you don't call it the Muckalee river, you call it Muckalee...
165:  That I know, Flint river's the only river I think.
Interviewer:  And what do you say the Muckalee...
165:  Creek.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and then you have the creeks around you think of?
165:  Well this Muckalee go all through here, somewhere down low is Muckalee someone Muckalee getting on down.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about something smaller than a creek?
165:  Either lakes and things I don't know much about them I tell ya I don't
Interviewer:  Okay {X} Well the thing that might run into the creek O- or what are land that lies along the creek, would you might. be more likely to have a different word for that. Did you ever say bottom land?
165:  Yeah well we say the bottom down in the bottom.
Interviewer:  Okay now did they say that about the land here too?
165:  {X} stand there in the bottom {X}
Interviewer:  The water would stand in there?
165:  I don't, it the bottom
Interviewer:  What would you- you, did you have another word for that water stood in it?
165:  Well they dug a ditch and you know, drained it off.
Interviewer:  Okay.
165:  Where it would stand {X}
Interviewer:  Okay and when they do that to get water out there they say well, They're what the land there? Drain?
165:  They drain it off, they'd they I forgot what they called them, what they'd called it.
Interviewer:  Drainage, ditch, or canal?
165:  And they dug those ditches to drain the land off.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh did they ever call it a swamp?
165:  Yes, swamps.
Interviewer:  And what about marsh?
165:  I don't know anything about that.
Interviewer:  Okay uh low lying grassland, you say that you know cows went out to pasture, did you ever have another word for that what was uh rich land. uh wasn't really good for anything other than raising grass. Did you ever talk about a meadow?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  Didn't have meadows around here. Okay what, what different kinds of saw, how would they describe a maybe pour saw that has a lot of sand.
165:  Yeah they would say {D:pour saw.}
Interviewer:  okay. And were there any other words? What about uh long or or a muck or gumbo or
165:  I I would uh be sawmill {X} But I ain't been in no woods I don't like 'em.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What did the sawmill folks
165:  Talk about the muck. You know, down in the wood I got a {D: boy} sawmill.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
165:  And be muddy.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
165:  Had to wear boots and things.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if there's a been a real heavy rain and the water has cut a channel, what do they call that?
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Okay And uh If it was maybe even deeper a real deep place might be called a ever hear a ravine? Gully?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Is a gully and a ditch about the same?
165:  Yes. Gullies.
Interviewer:  And uh If uh {X} How far, hey you haven't told me this Ruth, How may you have traveled around a little bit? Been to out of the state or?
165:  Yes ma'am, I've been out the state.
Interviewer:  Where all have you been?
165:  I've been to uh Brooklyn, New York New York two or three times. I had a son there.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
165:  And then Hartford, Connecticut.
Interviewer:  Some of your family there too?
165:  I had a niece that died {X} Buried 'em up there, I went up there to the funeral.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
165:  And I've been to South Carolina, I went up there last year to my grandson Gregory {X} {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
165:  I didn't get a chance to see her though. I've been out of the state.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Seems like you're maybe go visit this son, you said you have a son in Europe? Son and daughter?
165:  I had a granddaughter in Europe No I ain't going there.
Interviewer:  No? I think it'll be good.
165:  Get on them planes you go there.
Interviewer:  Yeah? It'll be fun.
165:  Not with me, I ain't getting on no plane. {NW} Over there my son wanted me to come on a plane. Last time I went I told him I'll ride the bus I. Rather take them Twenty to Fifteen fourteen hours on the bus. {NW}
Interviewer:  Get in a plane. Alright And uh Did you say that a gully and a and a ditch are about the same?
165:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh if a, if there's just a not perfectly flat but a little, just a little bit of a rise, you might say well there's a little
165:  A hill. {NS}
Interviewer:  And uh What about up around the mountains when there's those little round places that are getting steeper? What about the thing that you use when you open a door, you turn the...
165:  Door knob.
Interviewer:  Have you heard a little hill called a knob?
165:  No.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if it's very large and much higher than a hill, you say that's a great big...
165:  Big hill.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm but if it's just like you know up in North Georgia and they're Huge, you know I'd say it is more than hills, those are up in the Mm. Up in the Smokey
165:  Mountains.
Interviewer:  Okay. How'd you say that?
165:  A smoky mountain {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Okay, and uh Up in the mountains where a road goes across to a low place, you might say well. Or what about something that uh Uh you might take and cut a little thing like that in wood or did you ever sew?
165:  No not much.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. You never did work with patterns? Stripes?
165:  No I ain't good with patterns now. I could have, if I'd had Trained it on up when I gone to school I Got a little song and I took a little lesson at school {X}
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  I'd take a look at pictures, I want that one.
Interviewer:  I was just wondering if you remember those little things that cut kind of a little V shaped thingy in a pattern.
165:  No I don't remember that.
Interviewer:  Notch?
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Did you ever use the word notch?
165:  Yes, yes I might have used them, used a notch.
Interviewer:  You ever use it about, anything about uh in wood or anything?
165:  Yeah. Notch in the wood.
Interviewer:  Okay. And what would you call a place where a large amount of water falls a long distance.
165:  A waterfall.
Interviewer:  For water, you know like a river or Niagara. It's a great, #1 great big #
165:  #2 waterfall? #
Interviewer:  What do you call that, say that's a great big...
165:  Oh. Waterfall?
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh tell me about the the- the roads uh {X} The different kind of roads, the way they used to be and then when they started making 'em a little bit better.
165:  Oh well we used to be ready The road goes to the station from where we lived. And it was muddy. And- but we didn't travel that road, come through the woods. call that place a hut some would come through the woods. And we'd get in the field and go to come through the railroad. It'd be so muddy and slippery when it rains we'd get, we We tried to come to school {X} {X} Long in the ditches there. You know all along the road there for two or three days. Looked like it used to be {D: coal} and it'd be {X}
Interviewer:  Sure.
165:  Look like you couldn't tell the winter from the summer. {NW} It'd be so warm for long but it didn't feel that way. Aw man.
Interviewer:  Okay and then when they started making the roads a little bit better what did they make 'em out of?
165:  The slush pails were already {X} Whole rocks. And then we have hanging on the {X} Well. {X} Was where I was with my husband driving all the way And they was hauling the rocks from over here to a lake {X} Place it, putting big rocks down in a row all along.
Interviewer:  So was that to fill up bad places?
165:  It fills up the roads then the {X}
Interviewer:  Uh what'd they call, what was the black stuff they poured on it?
165:  Yeah, that thing. They didn't add it. {X} {D: Pailing} {X} {D: These pails coming from all over.} On them rolls like pails like that.
Interviewer:  I see. Okay and uh Uh Then after they'd gr- started grinding the rock up a little finer, what did they call that?
165:  They- they- they would you know grind them up. But long night after that they would rocks this big they'd haul them haul 'em over a field somewhere back in that way. They got 'em.
Interviewer:  That's a pretty rough road.
165:  Yes but they smoothed it off and Puts a top over that.
Interviewer:  Right. Well uh now you say that out there is uh made of what?
165:  They would put half of the cement they called it.
Interviewer:  Okay. And uh cement or concrete you ever hear?
165:  Yeah. They had some cement.
Interviewer:  And what about a little road that goes off of the main road maybe say that's a little...
165:  Through road, through, they say take that road and tell ya places through to somebody else's place.
Interviewer:  Alright and if it's from the barn out to the pasture, you might say well I'm gonna walk down the...
165:  {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm what would you call that kind of a little place? Maybe it wasn't wide enough for a car or buggy or anything just
165:  #1 There'd have to be a path. #
Interviewer:  #2 to walk # Okay. Do you ever hear a lane?
165:  Yes.
Interviewer:  What is a lane? {X}
165:  I don't know my {X} They called it a lane, that's a lane
Interviewer:  Okay and uh and maybe the thing that you have sometimes along the side of the street for people to walk on, What do you call that?
165:  Street.
Interviewer:  Uh and if it's a that little paved thing along the side of it, is that, that's out in the middle, you say that's the street but like, uh you might say to children now don't get out on the street, stay on the...
165:  Tell 'em stay on the sidewalk.
Interviewer:  Okay And uh If you are walking along um the road and a dog jumps out at you scares you What would you pick up and throw maybe?
165:  Anything you can get hold of. {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay and what would say you did with it, you say I...
165:  Say I throwed it at him.