Interviewer: Okay will you give me your full name first? 165: {B} Interviewer: Alright now you told me that your husband's first name was {B} was that right? It just happened to be that his first name sounds like {B} uh huh and did you name any of your children named Chloe? 165: No ma'am That one that is named His middle name is Interviewer: And you said you were born where? 165: South Carolina Interviewer: How far from here? 165: About two mile and a half Right there to the {D: experiment} station. Interviewer: Oh that's right 165: On the tunnel right there Right where the housing was.` Interviewer: Well does somebody in your family still work out there? 165: My grandchild works out there now. Interviewer: Hmm I talked to Mr Maltz out there and he said oh yes 165: I have a grandson out there. I had a daughter lived out there for about eight of nine years, ain't been long moved to town. Interviewer: Okay and um And uh You're a, your parents uh grew up uh 165: In Sumter County {X} The county that- {D: What they call the name of their} {X} Can't think of any. Before they brought the planes here {X} The town over there Interviewer: Well about how far 165: Uh about two miles about three or two miles and a half where my mother grew up at. My father grew up down in here. {X} They had nine children Interviewer: And you were the 165: I was the Uh to the last. Interviewer: Right 165: {D; Let's see I was} I was the sixth one. Interviewer: And your um your mother's name before she she got married was 165: {B} Interviewer: Okay. 165: We lived in a four room house Three bedroom and a kitchen Interviewer: Okay And that was uh out there on the experiment station. 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Okay. 165: The house was built for my daddy. Interviewer: Is that right? 165: And my, my oldest Brother lived there forty years before he moved. He married he stayed on there. Interviewer: Is the house still out there? 165: Oh they tore up all the old houses since the experiment. There was a lot of farmhouses out there. Interviewer: Okay well the house was just a square then? Just about like this? 165: Yes and one big one great big two really big rooms yeah. Three in two or three beds in a room Interviewer: Sure. 165: The kitchen was kitchen and just hold a table and a stove {X} Stove and a table {X} Interviewer: Okay where was the Was the porch across the front? 165: Yes the porch was on the front. Interviewer: And uh How did you heat back then? 165: Wood. Interviewer: Okay with the stove or in the fireplace? 165: Both the stove and fireplace My father would cut wood at this time uh in this {X} cut, turning up the land. And they just kept big piles of wood Cows and hogs barn out there. Interviewer: Now which way was the barn now? 165: It was that way from the house Interviewer: Right here? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Okay and how did you go back there? Was there some sort of little um To go from the house to the barn? 165: My mama had a big yard she had a big old yard and she kept it clean. Interviewer: That's when you swept everything off? 165: Yes ma'am {X} garden built with {D: Shank} {X} you might, I think it was {X} they called them. Interviewer: Uh the garden? 165: Yes. Interviewer: What about the yard how was it in? 165: It was just a big yard with an oak tree we just all around Interviewer: Did it have a fence around it? 165: No ma'am. {X} put in place right on the corner Interviewer: Sure. 165: and there was a set of woods a patch of woods long {X} They clean that up and they got pear trees on the back of the woods that would have been there now. Interviewer: #1 And the fence was around the garden then # 165: #2 And I # Yes ma'am and we had potato heels in the garden with a {D: shelter} over there at five and six peel the potatoes Interviewer: Alright and you said it was covered? 165: It had a shelter over it {X} with heel fixed up. Interviewer: Oh that's where you stored the potatoes then? 165: Yes ma'am Interviewer: After you grew them you dug them and 165: Put them there And the smokehouse was out from the house there. Plenty of meat. They raise, my daddy raised plenty Hogs to kill, not to sell, just to kill. Interviewer: Sure. 165: And chickens and plants Interviewer: And where did the hogs uh where did he keep them? 165: They were back of the lot out there And then he had a horse. And horses, he had a lot fenced. A fence made around him for the horse. Interviewer: And what did you call where the hogs were? 165: They was back {X} lot back out there. Interviewer: And was that enclosed with a fence around? 165: Around the hogs yes. Interviewer: What kind of fence was that? 165: Made out of {X}. Interviewer: Is that just like the garden fence the paling fence? 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And how was that made with them sticking were they straight up? 165: Yes. Interviewer: And uh nailed on to another board? 165: Another board run all around. Interviewer: And in the intervals then you had something bigger in the ground? 165: Yeah a pole {X} You know it's poles just like you would for wire. But it's using paling. Interviewer: Okay and uh 165: We spring clean my momma spring clean Once a year just took everything out Interviewer: Out of the house. 165: hot sun and soap water high as she could, {X} the house down. My mama's was a clean house. Interviewer: {X} 165: Yes she was cause that keep the steps as clean as it did. Interviewer: And what did you use what kind of soap did you use? 165: Plenty of soap oxygen {D: word} soap Interviewer: Well not she didn't make it herself. 165: Yeah, from {X} Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} soap # Interviewer: Is the kind you made outside? 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: What did you make it in? 165: A pot Interviewer: Yeah 165: A black pot Grease and uh potash and {D:oxygen} soap you dust old oh uh {NS} you just clean um you know {X} Interviewer: Lye maybe? 165: {X} powder and I'd use but a little of it like. And you have to use about a box or two to wash two or three loads now but you don't use we didn't use that many. Interviewer: Did you uh wash outside? 165: Yes ma'am Tub. Interviewer: Everyday- Every Monday? 165: Yes ma'am yes my momma washed every Monday {X} I wash every Monday too. Interviewer: Still? 165: Yes ma'am Interviewer: And on Tuesday you always- {NS} 165: {X} I don't do that now but that's what I was raised to do. Interviewer: Sure Okay and uh What about the water? How did you 165: Well we had a well. Good well of water. Interviewer: Out in the yard? 165: Yes ma'am drawed it. Interviewer: Out back out front where was it? 165: It in the back Interviewer: Back here? 165: Yes it was a {D: bold} well it wasn't a dug one a {D: bold but} When we had good water. Interviewer: And how did you get it up was it 165: Draw it. Interviewer: Pull it up on a rope? 165: No ma'am draw it. Interviewer: #1 You had to crank it # 165: #2 It had a...yes draw it # Interviewer: And what went down to get the water 165: Bucket. A bucket. A long bucket about that long. Interviewer: Made of what's that made out of? Some kind of metal or? 165: Yes. It had a {D: teekle} up there on the top. I got two or three {D: teekles} now {NW} Interviewer: What's that the thing that 165: #1 The rope # Interviewer: #2 rolled it? # 165: go around and pull it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You call that a teekle? 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: And you've still got it? 165: I got two. Interviewer: Yeah? Do you usually or use them? 165: No ma'am I just got 'em. Interviewer: You just got 'em? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Kinda like souvenirs? 165: Yeah people said that I was whole lotta folks say I like to reach look pick up old things. Cheaper like this it's cheaper than some things than buy one of 'em. Interviewer: Sure. Well Mr. Reese is uh is Harold Andrew's father the one that you worked for. 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: For how long would you say? 165: Forty-three years. Interviewer: And you did what? Just everything or just you were the cook? 165: Everything. Interviewer: {D: Everything}. 165: Uh huh everything. Around the last year I put down everything. But I cleaned- No I didn't I didn't have to up the beds never. She made up her bed. We cleaned the house once a week. And I done all the cooking. All they do is tell me what they want cooked. She had a cookbook for one of the recipes {D: you} I cooked by it and just {D: detour} they'd try to get me to tell them what I do. {X}. Interviewer: Then detoured? 165: Yes and teach it like I want a little bit get it better. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: And they often told me to tell them I'd tell them they'd say well I can't fix it like you. Well cause I don't- they say let her alone she ain't gonna tell you her secret. Interviewer: {NW} 165: #1 So you detoured # Interviewer: #2 Little bit # 165: Little little more or do a little less I can tell right there when I get it good they crazy about my cooking. Interviewer: They tell me you are a fine cook. I heard about Ruth's cooking long time before I ever {NW} 165: Any- Anything I wanna cook, anything when they were having company anything. They just tell me what to cook. Put it there after I was Interviewer: Sure. Well then {NW} did you still use a wood stove? 165: Well there I started with a wood stove. Yeah we made a wood stove there. {NS} Interviewer: But for time though later on they probably had a- 165: They had a la- uh an electric stove. Interviewer: Mm. 165: I used a wood stove there a long time. Range. Warmer to it. Interviewer: Oh and that was the, you had to bring water in from outside there too? 165: No. We had a spigot running there. Interviewer: Had a what? 165: Faucet- faucet. Interviewer: Yeah? 165: They called them spigots. {NW} Interviewer: What did you call it uh or what do you call it if it's outside and you turn it on like that? 165: Use it outside? Faucet. {X} Interviewer: Or a spigot. Okay. And where was the fireplace in this house? 165: In my old house? Just one fireplace all us arranged round one fireplace. And I don't know how we did it. Interviewer: Heated the whole house? #1 Well there was a stove? # 165: #2 Oh yeah. # {X} heated that and we just- Interviewer: Stayed close to that. 165: I reckon so. Interviewer: Was it on this side? 165: Yes it was on the side of the house. Interviewer: Okay like this? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. And um, the smoke when up through the? 165: Went straight up. Interviewer: Through uh 165: Through the chimney. Interviewer: And um, what did you call this part in front of the fireplace you remember? 165: Mantle piece. Interviewer: Well wasn't that the part that was up here? 165: Yes. Interviewer: What about that part down on the floor? 165: Hearth. Interviewer: Okay. And uh those things that uh that uh were in there iron pieces that you pile the wood on? 165: {X}. Interviewer: Okay. 165: That's what we called them. Interviewer: And uh uh the big uh you remember uh a big round piece of wood maybe with the bark on it that you put in there and the fire would it was big and the fire would hold on it longer? 165: Yes. Interviewer: #1 What did you # 165: #2 I had that. # Interviewer: What did you call that? 165: Call it um log. Interviewer: Okay. And what about the how did you start the fire in the fireplace? 165: {D: Use flint or} fat lighter {D: flannel}. And they'll {D: carry} you had kerosene but we, you know, what in the lamp and we need that. Interviewer: Mm. 165: Started with {D: flannel}. {X} in the winter time find that they would hardly get out. {X} people put some, put 'em on them coals and take a facet from round there and there'll be two of them {D: on a shelve them} have 'em way outside there. Interviewer: Sure. Okay and what do you call that black stuff that forms in the chimney? 165: That's schmuck. Interviewer: Okay. And what do you call this that I'm sitting in or you're sitting in? 165: We call it a chair. Interviewer: And that? 165: Call it um Interviewer: Is it a sofa? 165: I would have said settee. Interviewer: A long time ago but now you 165: #1 We call it a sofa. # Interviewer: #2 call it- # Okay. And what are the, back then uh did you have you told me all three of these were bedrooms. The one that had the fireplace in it were you more likely to call it something that meant it was the room where you stayed in most of the 165: #1 All the # Interviewer: #2 time? # 165: time we didn't have one {X] we had a front room for company to sleep in one of them rooms. But that bedroom there it was a big one it had two big beds in it and a small bed kind of up there in the fireplace and in it {X} was an old big {X}. You see they tore down all the houses like that over there. Lawns and everything be a new modern thing. Interviewer: Sure. Well um, up at uh at uh The Andrews' place where you worked uh did they have back uh when you first started working there a room like this? 165: Even when I first worked start working out there they had a living room. Interviewer: Is that what they called it back then? 165: Yes they called it a living room. Interviewer: I thought they might have been more likely to call it uh sitting room or parlor of something like that. What, which one? 165: Parlor. Interviewer: It was a parlor? Auxiliary: #1 Yes. A parlor # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh oh. # 165: Yeah you know a parlor. You could've called that #1 I told you I called that # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 165: a parlor, the parlor. Interviewer: My grandfa- father's house, it didn't have a living room. It had a parlor and okay what what furniture did they have in the bedroom as in besides the bed? Interviewer: Or in your house? 165: I had in bed {D: In our first thought} {D: they would, I thought they had on}. They didn't have all that um beds and um a rocking chair and I don't know what you call it I heard what they call that old crib. Big thing they put clothes in it didn't of course get through. Interviewer: Was it something built in? 165: No it was a big old wardrobe. Big old wardrobe. Interviewer: That was made out of wood? 165: Yes. Interviewer: And it could be moved around? 165: You want to move it but you could not move it {X} Interviewer: It was heavy. 165: Heavy wood. Interviewer: Okay. 165: Paint it dark. Interviewer: Yeah. What about something with a mirror over it? 165: They had a wash stand. And a bowl and pitcher. I have a bowl and pitcher in my own room now. Interviewer: Yeah? 165: It broke a little around the edges. Interviewer: Yeah well they were. 165: Pitcher. Interviewer: {X}. 165: Yeah they {X} on the wash. Everybody washed their face and hands on that wash stand. Put the towel across it. Interviewer: The back of it. 165: Yes we had a blue strip cross and then a glass a wash stand in there. Interviewer: Sure. Okay and all the things you had in the house the beds and chairs and everything you called that the? Or you call it now all the? All the different things the beds {X} would say that just a lot of all- Or somebody goes and buys things you say well they bought a lot of new? 165: Oh they call it antiques now. Interviewer: Yeah but what if they go to the store downtown, you know or if they're getting ready to move then I say well a truck's coming to get all my? The bed the chairs the dressers the tables all that stuff and you call it the household uh 165: Furniture. Interviewer: Okay how's that? 165: Household furniture yeah. Interviewer: Okay. You ever hear it called plunder? 165: No. Interviewer: No you never heard it called plunder? Okay and what would you have made that pulled up and down to keep the light out of the windows? 165: Shades. Blue shades. And yellow ones. Interviewer: Yeah? And but this kind like this that you pull back you call? Do you call them shades too? 165: No them curtains. Interviewer: Okay. And uh did this house have anything built in to keep the- your clothes in? 165: No it didn't. Interviewer: How did you uh keep them? 165: Hang 'em outside the house. Interviewer: Uh huh on what? 165: Nails. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about a little room at the top of the house just under the roof? Was there some space up there? 165: No not in that one. Interviewer: Yeah what about in the Andrews' house? You remember this little storage space up there where you put old things? 165: Attic they called it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh to get up there you had to go up- Did that that house had uh had two stories had uh 165: Had uh that room there. We moved down to his sister's house and lived there he had a two story house. Interviewer: Okay. 165: It was old. Interviewer: And um what about uh to go from the downstairs to the second floor you'd go up the... 165: Stairs yeah. Interviewer: Okay and uh what about the little room off the kitchen where you uh you stored canned goods extra dishes that sorta thing? 165: That that that that is uh Logan's house had it but he didn't they didn't have that up to where we lived. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What did they call what did they call it? 165: They call it where they put the dishes at. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what would you call {NS} uh old worthless furniture maybe things that you think well maybe you ought to throw away but uh you still have around just uh- Maybe furniture or maybe uh farm tools something you might store outside somewhere? You say I ought to get rid of that stuff that's a lot of old? 165: {X} just showed up, a lot of old stuff like that. Interviewer: Would you call it uh trash or junk or 165: We call it junk. Interviewer: Okay and where would you uh what would you call a room that maybe you just that sort of stuff in? 165: Called it we called it where we keep the junk at. Interviewer: Okay. And every morning after you get up and have breakfast you have to go around and you know uh clean uh straighten up everything how do you say you're going to do that or you have to do that I've got to go... 165: Well when uh they get to, when they got to eat breakfast and I did that I'd give them the breakfast on the table I'd go and get the {D: coffee}. And I came back in and stand and I'd eat and get the dishes and clean them out. They had a big dog they'd feed the dog. And I wash the dishes And that time it'd be time for me to be getting ready for for dinner. Dinner went down up there at {D: the desk}. Get them ready for dinner. Interviewer: Okay. What do you call it if uh after you had breakfast you have to go through the process of making up the beds Or going over the floor, you say well I've got to? Maybe you've had company or the children have been playing and everything's gotten {X}, you say well I've got to? 165: Where we had to pick up behind them all the time. Interviewer: Yeah. Did you have a word that meant doing all of that sort of thing, making up the beds? {NS} 165: In them days in time I could just do it if wasn't much to do Well I didn't call it nothing, I Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 I'd soon # go through with that, done, {D: getting up the} thing. Interviewer: Okay. 165: It was Virginia's thing I timed the washing cause that was mine {X}. Interviewer: {X} She was your favorite? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Is that is she the youngest? 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Is there uh 165: There's nine. Oh I liked them all But I'd always do everything she wanted me to do for her. Dye their clothes or Interviewer: What their clothes? 165: Dye 'em {X} they want dyed. Interviewer: Yeah? How did you do that? 165: On the floor uh Interviewer: Did you stir it? 165: No put on, let it get hot and put the dye in there and Boil so many minutes take it out put a handful of salt in there and put it back in there before it can stain. Interviewer: Salt? 165: Yes. Interviewer: What did that do? 165: I reckon that Salinity keep it from running and everything Then rinsed it till it was clean. Interviewer: Okay. 165: Washed clothes if they didn't could hang out hang it on the seat of a chair, lay it on a chair for 'em. On paper. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And what did you use to sweep with? 165: Straw brooms with bell bottoms Straw brooms every year. {NW} It'd be good ones. Interviewer: Yeah? 165: She has stick brooms but she get straw broom. Interviewer: Oh a stick broom? What is it now, a stick broom is the kind that just has the handle 165: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 right? # The straw broom was all of 165: straw. Interviewer: All in 165: straw yes. We go under the bed and everywhere. Interviewer: Well you had to bend over to do that one more didn't you? 165: Not with them big long straw brooms. In them times you didn't have rugs on the floor. Interviewer: Okay. If the door is open and you don't want it that way you might tell someone to 165: Close the door. Interviewer: Okay and what do you call a If a house is made of wood Now this one is made out of 165: blocks. Interviewer: Alright and up in the top part of it there's a little bit of wood 165: Yes well, wood Interviewer: And what about uh those houses made of wood that the boards sort of Lap over each other? 165: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. That's the kind we lived in Interviewer: What did you call that? Do you remember what they called that kind if board? 165: {X} board Interviewer: Okay. How was that? 165: {X} board outside {X} board. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If uh If you took uh your Y-You said that maybe you had clothes hanging up on the nails And if you were going to uh to do some carpentry you'd say I took the hammer and I? 165: Nailed Interviewer: Okay and uh Um do you uh you drive? Yourself or no? Who drives uh you? We saw a car out here is that? 165: Uh my daughter. Interviewer: And if You if you're going downtown you might say well my daughter's going to? 165: Drive. Interviewer: Okay and uh If if sh-she took you downtown yesterday you'd say well she? 165: Took me downtown. Interviewer: She? 165: Took me to town. Interviewer: Okay well uh What about using drive ever would you say yesterday she dri- everyday she drives me downtown yesterday she dr- 165: I'd say drove that's what Interviewer: #1 Okay # 165: #2 I'd say # Interviewer: And uh I-I like to to go for a ride if she knows I like to go to ride every day she has 165: {D: Pulled her weight}. Interviewer: Okay but if she's uh taking you driving in the car you might say Every day she has, for years she has? 165: She, she had {X}. Interviewer: Okay uh And what do you call the part that covers the house? {X} Outside? 165: Um The roof. The roof no the roof The roof of the house. Interviewer: Okay how's that? 165: The roof of the house. Interviewer: Okay. And uh What about the little thing the edge uh that carries the water off? 165: The eave. Interviewer: Okay. And what about a place up there where the maybe the house is in an L shape and there might do a place where the two uh roofs come together. What would you call that? Interviewer: Wait a minute the. 165: I forgot now what they call that. Interviewer: Would you, it might be valley? 165: Yeah valley yeah. The valley. Interviewer: What is that on? {NS} What about a little building that maybe was used to store wood? 165: Wood house. They would have a wood house. Interviewer: Okay and uh A place they might keep tools out on the farm? 165: We had a tool house. Interviewer: Okay would that ever be built on the side of the barn? 165: No that'd be out yonder from out the barn. Interviewer: Okay what about any other buildings Now you didn't have an indoors you didn't have a bathroom. 165: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 then. # What did you call it when it was built out back somewhere? 165: Out there, closet. Interviewer: The closet? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Yeah? More than the the outhouse or the Privy or? 165: Yeah there, some of them said out to the privy. Interviewer: But you all said out to the 165: #1 To the closet. # Interviewer: #2 closet. # Mm-hmm. Was that kind of a little nicer word maybe than than Privy or outhouse or toilet? 165: I ain't really sure. Interviewer: Uh huh. That was the one your mother maybe. 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: {X} are like these. Okay. If you have troubles and Auxiliary: {NS} Five Two Interviewer: Okay. Okay how would you say it like uh if uh if uh If somebody was telling you about everything sad, like they wanted sympathy or something like that And uh Things are hard for everybody and you want to talk about uh you know you, maybe you're going to say well Everybody has troubles, you might say well {NS} 165: I'd say well I'm sorry. Interviewer: Yeah? But you might say well uh {NS} I've got my problems too. 165: That's right. Interviewer: Well, how would you say it? 165: I'd say I have my problems. Interviewer: Okay. 165: Everybody has them. Interviewer: Everybody has 'em yeah, sure. And uh if there's some strange sound and you're asking somebody if if they heard it, how would you say that? What was that? Did you? 165: What's that? Did you hear it? Interviewer: Okay. And uh. During the night, you, there was something strange And you say last night At about 1 o'clock I 165: I heard them noise. Interviewer: Okay, and somebody might say, well you know Every night this week, I've 165: Heard the same noise. Interviewer: {NW} And if you know a person uh If I ask you if you know someone And you might say Uh no I don't know him but I've 165: Heard about him. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If uh um If a friend came back to town And another friend had been visiting with him Somebody might ask you Have you seen him yet? You might say no, I? 165: I haven't seen him. Interviewer: And uh They might say, has you brother seen him yet? You might say no 165: No, he ain't said nothing about it. Interviewer: Okay. He didn't s- uh and if uh something you do every day uh like maybe go for a walk, I'd say you go for a walk everyday you might 165: #1 Say yeah I # Interviewer: #2 say # 165: go everyday. Interviewer: Alright uh and uh Does your neighbor walk every day? 165: No. Interviewer: No she... 165: She don't walk every day. Interviewer: Okay And uh you might say um um Does your brother like ice cream? yes he? 165: Yeah he do. Interviewer: And uh You might smoke {X} well I don't smoke But he...? 165: Yeah I say yeah I smoke. Interviewer: Okay and he...? 165: He do too. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} and uh If, what about a man lets his farm get all run down, and seems to not care. You might say to someone who asks I really don't know but he just...? ...to care. 165: He just don't work or something. Interviewer: Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: And uh, um If you've been trying to make your mind up about something um, oh, you might say well I've been thinking Could you finish that? 165: I'd tell them I'm thinking bout it And I don't know yet. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if um Somebody uh um maybe one of the children or one of you neighbors or something does something that you don't like and you might uh uh wonder uh what makes them do that? How would you say, I don't...? 165: I'd say I don't out there like he ain't right. Interviewer: Okay. Uh, I don't know what...? 165: paling Interviewer: Mm-hmm. he's sick or something Okay. And uh What about if you have uh heard people talking about him? You might say uh well uh I don't know that he does that, but people...? 165: People just, they do more out than they do around home anyway. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say uh that uh you live in uh a block 165: House. Interviewer: And there are several other...? 165: Living {X} Brick houses Interviewer: Brick what? 165: Brick houses {NS} Interviewer: And uh what about a place where they kept corn? on the farm. 165: Outside in the crib. Interviewer: Okay. Any other words for a building where they kept different kinds of grain? Or a place for wheat. Did they have a separate building for that? 165: Yes um They done post right round here and raised them. The wheat and they raised oats. Interviewer: Okay. #1 Where would they put # 165: #2 stock # Interviewer: Where would they put the oats? 165: They put it in the barn. Interviewer: Okay. And uh What about the peanuts? Where did they store the peanuts? 165: Put 'em on a stack out in the field. And, now that's what they used to do long time ago and thrashed 'em When they got dry. I had to pick up peanuts for a five ton stack. Interviewer: How big was the stack? 165: uh about That high right there Big and about four about four from here {X} Room we put about fourteen rows to the stack And we'll set 'em on each side. Interviewer: Sure. How many, how long would it take you to g- to gather a stack? 165: I have put up, if a person a good worker can put up twenty stacks Put it up nice and right. Can put up twenty-six stacks a day when he be work he don't be play. Interviewer: {NW} 165: Well I had some boys and I knowed some young men could put up forty stacks a day but they be pulling more than running I have told them twenty-five {X} {X} on my shoulder. Pull forty don't pull for me now. They'd pull the {X} on the top Interviewer: Now, this is corn? 165: Yes ma'am. {X} from corn {X} Up in barns Then you have to tote it and it's hauling Stack it up half of the stock to eat what they could save and farm I don't know {X}. Interviewer: And if you told somebody you did that you'd say, well yesterday I...? twenty...? how would you say that? 165: Well yesterday we, I'd say we yesterday when we had to get get. You know they pull the {X} and let it stay two or three days and take Interviewer: #1 How did they pull it? # 165: #2 and hang. # Interviewer: Did they cut it off or 165: No. Cut it down the strip Put three or four barns #1 three or four- # Interviewer: #2 We took the leaves off it. # 165: Uh huh. Interviewer: Strip the leaves? 165: And tied them And when they dry Wanna go ahead and tie, put about six of them together and throw 'em over there on a line And that'll be a bum. One bum and then you take up when you Then it be something coming on the highway we be taking it up I put twenty five bum {X}. Interviewer: {NS} 165: These {X} card. Interviewer: Did that, that left, just left the stalk sticking up out in the the field? 165: Yes the stalk and the corn Interviewer: And um What happened to the stalks? 165: Nothing. They stay there until the corn got ready to pull. Interviewer: Oh, the ear was left on it. {NS} And then what did you call that very top stuff on the corn, that little 165: Uh that was, that's the {D: tassel}. Interviewer: Uh huh. and uh around the ear is the...? The leaves that are around the ear of corn that you have to pull off 165: #1 The shuck. # Interviewer: #2 those are? # And what about that little fine, thread-like stuff That's on the ear? 165: Silk. We called it silk. Interviewer: And uh Well that's interesting. That was the leaves then that were stripped off that way. uh were green. 165: Yes. Interviewer: And then they gathered that in for, uh, what did they call it, hay or fodder...? 165: Fodder. {X} that they get off the stalk they called it fodder. But then they didn't bother the shuck of the corn you know until they come and got. Interviewer: Right okay well then they came and picked the corn, what happened to that stalk That was left? 165: Oh well they cut that Tear that stalk cut and cut that stalk up. Interviewer: For feed or? 165: Stayed on the ground. Interviewer: Okay. And the top part of the barn where you put the things up there would be called a...? 165: Up in the north they'll put those {X} stuck up in the north. Interviewer: Okay and what about The, you said they didn't have much wheat around here, what about the uh the The oat uh business. How did they go about gathering that a long time ago? 165: They cut it And then threshed it. Interviewer: They cut it by, with a machine? 165: {X} they called it. But now you see these Cuts it in it and steer it. You thresh it go in the sack. {X} Interviewer: All at one time? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: And when they used to cut it with a binding machine it would go through? 165: Yessum Ground and they cut it. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And then what happened? 165: Get a {D: towel} Bundle 'em, throw it off, Pick 'em up. Interviewer: And you go through and get the bundles and do what? 165: If they, when they got really thresh 'em They thresh it you know {X} You need a lot of {X} in there and let it threshed it. Interviewer: And that separated the...? The seed... 165: #1 {X}, # Interviewer: #2 the other- # 165: And then in the straw. Interviewer: And what did they do with the straw? 165: We made ticks out of the straw, you can go get it and make You know, put the straw ticks and, on the bed Interviewer: Sure. Did they pile up out in the field or anything or 165: Oh it'll be out there. You can go out there and get it you know. The wind had scattered it about. Interviewer: {X}. 165: Because when they got the Oat off of it There's nothing more wheat that much sometimes. Interviewer: There's no leaves or anything? 165: Nothing to {X} You know, move around in there but it wasn't even much. Interviewer: And uh you made a The ticks out of it did you put in on the beds and always you put on top of it you usually had a? 165: A cotton {D: tin} a make up cotton tin you know. Cotton, get cotton from the gin And uh made it up. Interviewer: Uh you did that more than uh than the kind with feathers? 165: Uh well there was a lot of folks that like didn't have feathers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: My mama didn't like them. {X} have a stroke to get the {X}. Interviewer: Yeah? 165: And a cotton tick don't. They go to the gin, I don't know what kinda cotton there really was Cotton that they Refused to go into the pail {X}. Interviewer: Sure. 165: And smack the side of it. Interviewer: Okay. And um if um {NS} What other kind of hay did they have around here? What, uh to feed the cattle? 165: Hay. Grass grow, we had made hay ticks too. Interviewer: yeah? And uh if uh Did they cut that down and {X} did store that in the barn to feeds the cattle in the winter? Yes ma'am well a big field of hay Gr-Grass come up good and they cut it down and bale it. And did they ever pile that out in the field? Bale it in a baler Like they used to bale peanuts. uh huh. They didn't rake it up and pile out it in the field that much? Not in stacks? 165: Just baled it. Interviewer: Okay. 165: Was wild. Interviewer: Okay and uh What about the uh, a place that you kept horses? 165: When my daddy kept his horse he had a Stall for him to stay in and eat in And he had a lot for him to run around nice big as This yard out back. Interviewer: Okay. 165: Wanted to come out and run around Interviewer: And um Where were the cows milked? 165: She had a stall too. Interviewer: In-in the summer, maybe it was real hot, did they ever milk her outside? 165: I milked her outside. Interviewer: You didn't have a special place to do that? 165: Well they had one that kicked or something like that They had they put in a They called it um {X} Make it driveway and put a bowl behind and she couldn't kick. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Did you ever hear it called a milk gap or a milk pen, or a cow pen, or a cow gap or anything? Okay um And the hogs would be in a...? What'd you say? 165: They'd be in a pen. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Uh, a kind of farm or a type of farm that just had cows, what would you call that? 165: They call that a cow farm. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and what about, where did people keep the milk and butter before they had refrigeration? 165: On the tables in cool places. Interviewer: What about a stream or something outside? 165: Some people had little streams outside there where they could put it. Interviewer: But you all just kept it in somewhere in the...? 165: When I was, mama's kitchen had a Window {X} You know these generic screens {X} cool air would come in. Interviewer: Uh huh. Okay uh Well what about the The place where you stored the you produce in the winter you said uh You had a shed like out in the garden built into the hills and put potatoes in and put other vegetables down like that? 165: Yes ma'am, rutabagas and things like that. {X} the white potatoes put them under the house. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: And I've tried this but just spread 'em out under the house. Interviewer: And they didn't have to put dirt over them? 165: No they just throw them out under the house. Interviewer: They wouldn't freeze under that? 165: No we {X}. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Uh h-have you heard of dairy? Did you have? 165: No not at that time. My daddy- I didn't have dairy but {B} always had cows. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: It's a farm. You know you had a good milk cow to have. Interviewer: And uh how did, did he use that word? 165: {B} Interviewer: Did they use that word? 165: Milk cow? Interviewer: No, dairy. 165: No. Interviewer: There's a newer word for 165: {X}. Interviewer: Okay. And um And the cows and uh hogs And so forth when they went out to graze, where would you say they went out to the? 165: Pasture. {NS} Interviewer: House? 165: Out in the pasture. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh Did uh did they have any sheep around then? 165: No. {NS} Interviewer: Um and what What did uh did you say you had to do to the cotton when it was little, you had to go out and. to get the weeds and stuff out of it. 165: Chop cotton. {X} Bunched it. Interviewer: Bunched it? What was bunching it? 165: Getting the gray sheen out. Interviewer: Oh. 165: {X}. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: {X} I used to want a cotton picker. I hate to pick them out and my daddy made six to seven pound bales of cotton. Right over yonder over there. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: But I, now I had one brother Would hold hands to help pick cotton in January. Interviewer: That way? 165: Yes ma'am. {X}. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: {X} People over here in town, picking cotton. {NS} Interviewer: But uh that was to, to what? What- where was that farm now, that out 165: Turns out down {B} farm where we- I ain't ever lived nowhere but from there. Interviewer: Right. 165: I lived over there. Interviewer: Okay. 165: And married and stayed up there. With my husband, then folks, my mother-in-law, cooking for {D: McDonald's} And I stayed in the little old household over there on the side. About seven years {X}. Interviewer: Well then your, Your father and your husband worked for the experiment station. 165: It wasn't experiment. My husband didn't. He didn't. Interviewer: Uh your, your 165: My father went to doctor Sam and {X} But back with doctor {X} {X} Sons took it over after he died. Interviewer: Okay. And uh What were, what were the things that you had to worry about trying to get rid of out in the cotton? 165: Grit. {NS} Sand {D: spitter}. {NS} Interviewer: That was the worst one? 165: Yeah worst time. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Uh were there any other weeds that you remember? 165: Sometimes {X} would come up. Interviewer: {X}? 165: {X}. Interviewer: What would that, what did that one look like? {NS} 165: Just got a lot of leaves about that big. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {NS} 165: You have six sometimes go {X} {NS} {D: eat bunches of grass} {NS} cotton and {NS} Knock it you know so that the ground would be great to pick cotton and great to grow wheat. Folks who make cotton go a full week just to come around. Interviewer: Yeah. {X} 165: That's right. Interviewer: Do you remember when the {X}? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Sure that was when, back in the Was that in the twenties? That was early thirties right? 165: Uh yes. I was um I don't know when the Titanic sunk. Interviewer: Uh 1912 or thirteen. 165: 1912, you know what I was doing then? Interviewer: What? 165: Replanting corn. Interviewer: And you heard that? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: That soon. 165: Yes {X} {NS} Right away. {NS} {X} Interviewer: Well did you all- 165: Fourteen day radio Interviewer: Did you hear about it uh from the radio or from the newspaper? How did that get around? 165: {X}. Interviewer: How? 165: Newspaper. Interviewer: Okay. 165: I don't think we had a radio then. Interviewer: Well uh, what did you uh- uh talking about the cotton, you said well that's a big 165: Field of cotton. Interviewer: Mm. 165: White. Oh. One side. Interviewer: Right and if it were not quite that big you might say well that's just a little. 165: {X}. {NS} Interviewer: And what kind of fences would you have around the fields and patches, you say just {D: paving} fences around the garden? 165: No {X}. Interviewer: Just didn't have the fence when they didn't have the ? 165: Fenced no cotton. Peanut {D: like they won't fence} Unless some- somebody want to {D: turn their hogs in and they change up to peanut patch.} Interviewer: Okay, what kind of fence would they put around then? 165: Wire. Interviewer: Okay. What about that kind that has a little sharp thing and one single wire above the other? 165: Barbed wire. Interviewer: Okay and uh did you ever see those old-fashioned Did y'all ever have around here those fences that were sticks of wood like this that? 165: No. Interviewer: You know what I'm talking 165: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 about? # Uh what did they call, you remember what they call those? 165: No not really. Interviewer: Uh apparently some places they said rail fences or {X} fences, you just didn't have around then. Okay. And uh what about did you ever have uh any sort of fence made by picking up loose rock and stacking them up the {X}? 165: No. Interviewer: Wasn't that much rock around here was there. 165: No. Interviewer: Okay what about They have chickens? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh where did the chickens stay? 165: They stayed in the hen house. Interviewer: And if you go ahead 165: Come on out in the, get out in the morning in the yard. {X}. Interviewer: And if you wanted the hens to start laying Uh do you remember that they used to put something in her nest to try to fool her into thinking there was already an egg 165: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 there? # What'd they call that? 165: Uh {NS} Called it a new, put a call in a nest egg, that's what it was, #1 a nest egg. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # And what was it made out of, more like? 165: Glass. Interviewer: And what do you call um Your best dishes? You might say well these are not my everyday things, these dishes are made out of. 165: They say china. Interviewer: Okay. 165: My daddy would {X} Interviewer: Right and uh What uh did you ever ever have a- a- one of those eggs to fool the hens made out of that? 165: No we just, it was something glass like shine uh You know we used to beat up take a plate and beat up. Beat that up and throw it out and let the chickens Get that to them and it'll make them lay. Interviewer: Oh let them eat it? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah? Okay and uh And you said that the bucket thing that went down in the well was kinda long, what like a couple of feet long? 165: It was about that big arou- and, now in a boat where a ship boat where it'd be about like that. This thing be a little bit about that big. Interviewer: About eight, six or eight inches wide? 165: And about that long. Interviewer: Oh about three or four feet long. 165: Yes and it holds a good bucketful. Interviewer: Okay. 165: But now that dug, dug together {X} You could look on in there and see the wall you know. And you can put them Interviewer: Okay did you ever see them with a bucket made out of wood? No? 165: No. We didn't have that on our old days. Interviewer: Okay. Did you ever call a bucket a pail? 165: Yeah sometime. Interviewer: What was it when it was a pail, how would it? 165: It was a {D: Good galvanized uh} Interviewer: And would it have to do with the size of it really? Did he call it a pail, was it smaller or larger? 165: No maybe like a water bucket or pail. Interviewer: Okay. And what about the container that you use to carry food to the pigs, what would you call that? 165: Slop bucket. Interviewer: And uh What did Did you then or do you now fry eggs in? 165: Do I do it now? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: Fry eggs in now. {X} Interviewer: I mean the container that y- 165: Oh. Frying pan. Interviewer: Alright and was that the same thing that you used a long time ago? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh what about one that you maybe use in the fireplace then to cook in like that? Had legs on it. 165: Well when I was there with my husband, mother was cooking on a Frying, a big ol' frying pan with legs to it and a lid. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: She did cook the best food in that thing. I just couldn't cook in it. {NW} Interviewer: Okay did you, do you know spider for some kind of cooking utensil? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: What was that, do you remember? 165: It was Isn't I'm pretty sure we had one of 'em too. Interviewer: Yeah? Did you cook with it? 165: No my mother cooked it. Interviewer: Okay. 165: They had one. Interviewer: And you said that you did the washing or you made soap out in the yard with a big black 165: Pot. With grease, meat grease and uh {D: hot eggs}. #1 {X}. # Interviewer: #2 {D: right}. # Right. What about uh if you heated water outside like that to wash clothes in? 165: You boil them clothes outside. Interviewer: Okay. Uh Well if it's not that big and if it were. Uh black and maybe smaller but still out of that same material and maybe use it on the stove to boil potatoes in, say what would you call that? 165: Skillet um uh Interviewer: Kiln? 165: Kiln. I remember kiln. Interviewer: How was it? 165: Kiln. Interviewer: Alright. And uh what do you call the thing that you put flowers in? A 165: Vase. Interviewer: A what? 165: Vases. Interviewer: Alright and if it's outside, it's a A Maybe they grow in it. 165: I know that you're talking about a flower pot. Interviewer: Okay. And what are th-the eating utensils that you put at the ends of each plate for meals? You put at the plate, you have to have a 165: A knife and a fork. Interviewer: Okay and and what? 165: Knife, fork, and spoon. Interviewer: Okay you might have one knife or might have uh several of 'em. And uh you might have one knife at the plate but then you might have more bigger ones maybe back in the kitchen you might have several different kinds of. 165: Your cooks, forks and {X} chicken uh {X} Interviewer: And to cut with 165: #1 And you # Interviewer: #2 it you have- # 165: cut with that butcher knife. Auxiliary: Butcher what? 165: Butcher knife. Interviewer: Okay. And uh after, after meal you have to go and clean up, you have to go what 165: Get the dishes. Interviewer: If they're all dirty you say well, I've gotta go and 165: Have to go clean up the kitchen, I clean up {X} Interviewer: And that business about putting the dishes in the water and so forth you say that's gotta wash 165: Wash the dishes. Interviewer: Alright and then if you pour the water on to get soap off that was 165: Pour hot water on them to {NS} get the soap off. Interviewer: Okay and how did you call that? {D: Drin} 165: {X} This sure is This sure is a lot of dishes {NW} Interviewer: Okay, you wash 'em and then you r- 165: Scald 'em. Interviewer: Scald them okay. And what is, what did you call that uh cloth or rag that you use to wash 'em with? 165: Dish rag. Interviewer: And you dry 'em with. 165: Dry cloth. Interviewer: And you wash your face with a 165: Wash rag. Interviewer: And after you bathe, you dry yourself off with a 165: Towel. Interviewer: And uh if it was so cold that uh the, the water pipes got uh the water got solid, you might say well the pipes 165: {D: burst} Interviewer: Okay and uh People used to buy flour now you get in maybe a five or ten pound bag, but they used to buy it in a 165: {X} Twenty-five, fifty, that's the way my daddy did it. Interviewer: Okay 165: #1 Had to # Interviewer: #2 and did # 165: get a big sack, we eat biscuits then. Them kids don't eat biscuits now Interviewer: I think they do in some other {X}. 165: You take that and tell them I used to take a Twenty-five pound sack of flour They were two weeks and now They were five pound sacks of flour and go. Interviewer: Forever. 165: Go on, going in about a month, they they run out and then- then they now they like hotcakes. They wanted me to cook them often. Interviewer: And that's that's the kind that you put uh pour over 'em? 165: Pour with your butter and {X} butter and oh. Interviewer: And something sweet? 165: Syrup if you want it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Did you ever buy It in uh flour in a big wooden thing? 165: No I've only had a bag that you empty the flour in. Interviewer: But you kept it in there? Okay. And what about a What uh did molasses come in if you bought it in large quantities? {X} Did you buy it or you made it? 165: My daddy made it. Interviewer: What'd he keep it in? 165: Big barrels. Out in the smoke house. Interviewer: And then 165: Draw it out the barrel. Interviewer: What? 165: And they draw it out the barrel. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh What about lard? What did you keep lard in? 165: {D: Lard jam}. Interviewer: Okay did you ever say a stand for any of those containers? Lard stand or a molasses stand or a 165: Nah. Interviewer: And what do you use to pour liquid into a container that has got a small opening? 165: We used the funnel. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you're, to get a horse to go faster if you're riding in a buggy, use a 165: Whip. Interviewer: And uh now if you buy fruit at the store, the grocer might put 'em in a 165: Bag. Interviewer: Made out of 165: Paper. Interviewer: And what about those larger ones, a long time ago, they were not made out of paper but Bigger things that you bought, maybe uh flour or a meal or sugar, fifty pounds of it, what kind of a container would that uh That wouldn't be a paper 165: I didn't get that any You got, you got sugar in a bag. Interviewer: What would it be made out of? 165: Paper. Interviewer: Paper bags? I was thinking maybe it might be made out of cloth. 165: No it was made out of paper bags. Interviewer: Okay what about some kind of a a container that they used on the farm, maybe to carry potatoes or or fertilizer or manure or big coarse grain things. 165: To carry potatoes Interviewer: Or maybe they're shipped in, or feed, might might buy feed in a a big, a big kind of sack. 165: Yeah the big trophy sacks. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh that, the amount of meal that they take to uh to the mill Did they take their own amount of corn, that they take to the mill to get, they take their own corn? 165: Yes ma'am, they take twenty-five bushels of corn at a time, you know everybody sell it two or three bushels of corn sent to the mill. Interviewer: You all sit around and do that together? Whole family or just some of the kids or 165: They had a grinder, my daddy. They just You know, {X} well you take one or two of them and put the grinder. You know, with your corn {X}. Interviewer: Okay well what did you have to turn that 165: #1 Yep, turn it # Interviewer: #2 or something? # 165: don't shell it Interviewer: Oh you didn't have to do it by hand. 165: No you had a Interviewer: Okay. Okay and uh what about the quantity of corn taken to the mill at one time, did you hear it called a turn {X} get a turner mill? 165: I don't know whether it'd be a {X} be a turn but sometimes they would buy it on the fleece it'd get ready of daddy going to the mill. Water mill, water grind mill and everybody get corn shed up {NS} Even if you didn't share your corn, you {X} like it would, you wet and they kept the corn and send you {X} gonna get it much back. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: They shed their own corn and everything, they got that practice. Interviewer: {X} Okay and uh eh when the light burns out in an electric lamp you say, well I've got to put in a new 165: Uh Interviewer: A new, what kind of bulb? 165: Light bulb. Interviewer: And if you carried the washing to put it out on the line you may carry it out in a 165: In a In the washing. {X} Foot tub would I carry mine out. {X}. Interviewer: You ever, ever had something that was woven like 165: #1 Like a # Interviewer: #2 straw? # 165: a basket. Usually had a basket. Interviewer: Okay and what do nails maybe come in smaller than a barrel but made of wood. 165: They come in a keg. Interviewer: And uh What is it that may go around outside of a barrel or a keg to hold the wood in? What? 165: The hoop. Interviewer: Okay and if you say there are two or three 165: {X} Interviewer: Two or three 165: Hooks. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what do you put the top of a bottle to keep the liquid from running out? 165: Stopper. Interviewer: Okay what was that made of? 165: Corks and and Interviewer: And a musical instrument that children like to to play? 165: Harp. Interviewer: Okay. And what about the kind you hold between your teeth? 165: A bunch of tunes {X} Interviewer: And what was that? How was that? 165: What the? Aw {X} Interviewer: A zumba? Yeah Jew's Harp? 165: Something like that. Interviewer: Yeah. Zumba that's the kind of noise they made. 165: Yes made a zoom and got it out. Interviewer: Did you ever play one? 165: No I never played on. Interviewer: But uh 165: I had the boys play them. Interviewer: Your boys do? 165: Yeah, my my bo- My brothers, Interviewer: Uh-huh, that's an older toy. 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay and uh What do you use to drive a nail in with? 165: Hammer. Interviewer: And if you have a wagon with two horses, what's the long wooden thing between the horse? 165: Tongue. Interviewer: And those two things on a buggy? That the horse uh is in between, to the buggy? 165: That's the {X}. Interviewer: You have to back him up between the 165: {X} put 'em in through there. Interviewer: Shaft? 165: Shaft, that's right, shaft? Put 'em in the shaft. Interviewer: Okay. And what do you call the parts of maybe the wagon wheel or the buggy wheel? Were- how were they? Those things that go out or 165: The spokes would be in it. And that {X} A rubber one on the out, some of 'em had a rubber on the outside. Interviewer: What did they call that around the outside? 165: A rubber. Interviewer: Uh are sometimes 165: {X}. Interviewer: And uh If it were made of metal Maybe like on the wagons, it'll be the wagon 165: Wheel. Interviewer: Uh-huh and the, the outside part of it might be the rim or? 165: Yes. Rim. Interviewer: What about that wooden part just inside the rim, you remember a word for that? 165: Yeah no I don't. Interviewer: You ever hear it called felly or felloe? 165: I don't even know. Interviewer: Doesn't remember about that okay. Okay what is it that uh the horses hitched to are are, to pull on, a bar of wood that the traces are fastened back to? Put it on a plow or the wagon? 165: Singletree. Interviewer: Okay and uh if you have two horses and each one of 'em has a singletree, it'll be a um The thing that both of the single trees are hitched to 165: To each hole {X} Whatever it was. Interviewer: Right, did you ever hear a, that one is behind the single, the two singles called the doubletree? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Or was that double? 165: Doubletree. Interviewer: Okay and if you see a man with a load of wood in his wagon, he's driving along, what would you say he's doing? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay but if he's taking it from one place to another, you say well he's out today 165: Hauling wood. Interviewer: And uh What do you break the ground first with in the Spring? 165: They used to break it with a Had a plow and disk plow. Interviewer: What kind? 165: Disk plow, used to break 'em with that. Interviewer: Okay you remember any other kinds of soils? 165: No they had they just plowed {X} turn up the land with a plow then. They have tractors now. Interviewer: Sure. And what about after they plowed, uh to make, to break the ground up even finer, what might they use? 165: They'd use a Interviewer: Harrow? 165: The harrow. Interviewer: Okay. 165: They have a Interviewer: Different kinds of them? 165: Yes. Harrows. {X} If you go a while then some of them do. {X} Interviewer: Ya some of them plow one {X} and some two? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. And what is that in the middle of the or under the wagon that the wheels are fastened to on each side? That through the middle is the 165: {X}. Interviewer: Uh no, I mean I think it sticks out in front I mean like if there's two wheels here and two wheels here, the thing that runs between the two wheels. Axle or ax? 165: Axle. They had axles. Interviewer: Okay. Okay and back when your father used to cut wood like for the fireplace uh, you remember some sort of a thing like this maybe, there were two of 'em set up and you only get them if you saw it off? 165: Put uh put on that the saw. Interviewer: What did he call that? 165: {D: All his horses.} Interviewer: Horses? Well would it be a A a V-shaped thing turned upside down like this or would it be an X? 165: Something like that. Interviewer: And he called #1 that # 165: #2 He'd # he'd put the log in between there and saw if off you know Keep putting it on the saw. Interviewer: Did you ever hear that called a saw buck or an X spring or? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay, and uh To uh To fix your hair, you use a comb and a 165: Brush. Interviewer: And uh if you sharpen a straight razor on a leather thing, 165: That's right. Interviewer: What did you call that? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. And uh to put in a revolver uh You use what kind of, what did you put in a revolver, a gun? 165: Bullets. Interviewer: Okay and um Do you remember another word uh that meant the, the whole thing like that uh cart? Courage? 165: No. Interviewer: You just said bullet? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Did y'all have guns around? 165: Had a shotgun. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: Shells. Was their name. Interviewer: Okay. And what about a plank that was laid over something that the children played on? 165: See-saw. Interviewer: And what about one that was 165: #1 {D: Jump spring board.} # Interviewer: #2 a # What? 165: Spring board. Interviewer: How was that? 165: {X} One on this and on the other and then jump. This would jump on that end about there and then both of them would jump. Spring board. Interviewer: Okay. And did you ever have something like that that was maybe nailed on both ends and they stood or sat in the middle and jumped on? No? 165: No. I don't remember that. Interviewer: Okay what about something a plate that's anchored in the middle and it would go around and around? 165: {X} See-saw and sometimes they, somebody push you a ride and you could push you Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 around. # Sitting on there you jam one on there and then It takes you around and you just stop and just Do up and down Interviewer: Okay, and what do you uh call it when you tie two ropes to a tree limb and 165: S- Swing Interviewer: And what do you carry coal in? 165: Scuttle. Interviewer: And what do you call that uh that goes from the stove to the chimney? 165: Stove pipe. Interviewer: And uh a little thing that you carried maybe bricks or heavy things in, had one little wheel in the front and two handles. You push it along. Maybe around in the yard or out in the farm. Had a little wheel on a 165: Uh Interviewer: Not too big, one man or one person could push it. 165: Wheelbarrow. Interviewer: Okay how was that? 165: Wheelbarrow. Interviewer: And uh What do you sharpen a tool, a scythe or something like that on? Some- You could move from one place to another. 165: They had a, you mean sharpen on Interviewer: Farm implement. Maybe an ax 165: Uh-huh they had a grinding stone, they called it. Interviewer: Okay And if there was one, was a uh how'd you say that one? 165: A grinding stone, you cut it, it's a big ol' Interviewer: Wheel? 165: I guess you turn it and it whole ax on there and turn it and turn it on that side. Interviewer: Uh-huh and turn it 165: Sharp. Interviewer: And they poured water on it, didn't they? 165: Yes they poured a little water on it, yes they did. Interviewer: Did they have one that they could move That, that one was fixed in one place, wasn't it? 165: {X} Interviewer: Did they have one they could move around? Don't remember? Um Oh Okay and now you used to maybe walk or or go in the buggy but now when you go down town you ride in the 165: Car. Interviewer: And uh If something is squeaking to fix it so it won't squeak, you may put some 165: Grease on it. Sometimes you Interviewer: Okay And you have to have that done to the car sometimes. 165: Yes. Interviewer: And your daughter might say well I took the car down yesterday and had it. 165: Looked at. Interviewer: And had it but if they put that lubrication on, how would you say that, I had it gr- 165: I told one, I had it down and told 'em the {X} Interviewer: Okay and uh If um if they put that uh fixed the-the-the grease on it, you'd say well I hope they did a good job, they grea- 165: Yes. Interviewer: How'd you say that? They 165: They greased it good. Interviewer: Okay. And if you get grease all over your hands, you might say, look at my hands they're all 165: Full of axle grease, you gotta go Interviewer: All grease? 165: {X} Interviewer: All greasy? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: How would you say it? 165: I'd say Look at my hands, now I got greased and messed up. Interviewer: Okay. Greasy? 165: Yes. Interviewer: How'd you say greasy? 165: Greased. Interviewer: Okay. And uh instead of something heavy like grease, you might put all of it on a door hinge 165: Well {NS} Good {X} Interviewer: Um Uh What did you used to use to burn in lamps? 165: Kerosene. Interviewer: Okay You're gonna call {X}? {NS} 165: Kerosene, would I, would Interviewer: Okay. Uh Ruth did you ever fix a homemade 165: #1 Flambeau. # Interviewer: #2 lamp? # Huh? 165: Flambeau. Interviewer: Yeah, you fix 'em? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Sure, Uh that's interesting, I never saw one of them, I've just heard about 'em here. Inside the tire of the car is the inner 165: Tube. Interviewer: And uh The Do you ever know much about boats? 165: No, not too much. Interviewer: Your father, your brothers never built a boat? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay Uh do you know if if they're going to put one into the water, how they were saying, how they might say that, they're going down to 165: I don't know anything #1 about boats. # Interviewer: #2 Just don't know # about boats. Did they ever go fishing? 165: I know I didn't like fishing, I don't fish. {X} Interviewer: Do you know the names of any fish that there might be around in the ponds or the lakes, the lakes around here? 165: {X} up there. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: In this pond. I'm seventy-four and I ain't ever been on a creek. I don't like fishing. {NW} Interviewer: Yeah? {NW} How about that. 165: No ma'am, never been on a creek in my life. Interviewer: Is it or? Okay and then Do you know what kind of a boat they call it, little flat bottom one? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. Uh If um If the child is just learning to dress himself the mother might bring his clothes in to him and say now here now Put 'em on. 165: Tell him to put on his clothes. Interviewer: And if she wanted to tell him that she had them there she'd say Your clothes. 165: Just put on your clothes so we can eat or so you can go. Interviewer: Okay and uh how would you say Here they are, here are your clothes. 165: Here are your clothes, put 'em on so we can go. Interviewer: Okay. And If um uh your you hear much about the election round here? 165: {X}. Interviewer: Yeah. So uh Who do they think around here who do they think is gonna be governor? 165: I don't know. {NW} I don't know. Interviewer: Uh You ever heard anything about Jimmy Carter maybe running for vice president? 165: No. {X} He he said he would, we would all want a {X} good while ago when he come back you gotta let 'em know. What he gonna do but I I I just #1 Tired, I get tired, get tired of 'em # Interviewer: #2 Just any? # 165: talking to me {X}. Interviewer: Okay well um If I were to ask you um Uh you know, you hear a lot of people who have ideas about this if I were to say well uh Do you think Jimmy Carter could be uh nominated for vice president you might say well No I don't think so but there Some people who what? 165: {X}. Interviewer: They're what? 165: There's some people who would. Interviewer: Okay and uh if uh If a little boy comes in and he has a dog with him and the dog seems afraid of him and he might uh uh and you want to pet him and he runs off and you might tell him, send your dog over here I something, I just want to pet him. 165: I tell him send him here, let me see, can I get close to him and pet him. Interviewer: Yeah he might say uh I, going to hurt him I 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. And um If you're talking about the old days Folks would say everything was better, you might say Well the good old days, how would you say that? 165: {X} The old days was good. Interviewer: Okay. If somebody says, if you were not downtown yesterday, somebody says you Was that you I saw downtown yesterday, you might say no it 165: But if I wasn't there, then no it wasn't me. Interviewer: Okay. And um If a woman wanted to buy a dress of a certain color she might take a little square of cloth along to use as a just a little bit of it, she wanted to check and might say just a... 165: Little sample. Interviewer: Okay, and if somebody sees a dress that she likes, she thinks it's very becoming, she might say that's a very... 165: Pretty dress. Interviewer: And what do you wear over your dress maybe in the kitchen? 165: Apron. Interviewer: And to sign your name in ink, you write with a 165: Pen. Interviewer: And to fasten a baby's diaper you use a 165: Pin. Interviewer: And uh Soup that you buy, usually comes in what kind of can uh? Made out of what uh? 165: Tin. Interviewer: What? 165: Tin. Interviewer: Alright, and it's a can made out of what, usually comes in what kind of a can a... What do you call that metal that it's made out of, maybe it's made out of... I've got to throw away all those cans, there's a lot of some kind of cans. Not uh, maybe not aluminum, but just Are uh you Long time ago if you got a drink at the pump or the well you might use a, what kind of a cup? 165: Tin cup. Interviewer: Okay. And a- a- a dime is worth two nickels or you might also say a dime is worth. So many pennies. 165: Ten pennies. Interviewer: And uh when you go out in the winter time if it's cold you might have to put on a 165: Oh well you couldn't see me go {X}. Interviewer: You wrapped up? 165: Ooh oh my I was cold. I had a little A my coat and everything. It's the reason {X} gave me his old bedroll you know. {NW} And he just ride to put in all the old coats in there. I didn't get cold. {X} Was I too much cause I had a pretty good piece of roll Interviewer: Sure. 165: A lot of ties. And how come you didn't stay home this morning? Interviewer: But you always went? 165: Uh-huh oh we went {X} Oh I liked it {X} Interviewer: Pretty unusual now I think. 165: Yes. {X} {NW} Interviewer: Well you've done well. 165: I can't do it now, no. Interviewer: {X} Okay and if you're uh complementing somebody they have on the coat and you like the buttons, you might say, that coat has 165: Pretty buttons. Interviewer: Where? Pretty buttons? 165: In the front. Interviewer: Uh would you, would you be more likely to say Pretty buttons on it or pretty buttons onto it? 165: I'd say pretty buttons on it. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And sometimes a- a man uh but would have his shirt on but between his shirt and his coat, he'd have something that didn't button down the front. 165: Dress. Interviewer: Okay and a man also wore on his legs he wore... 165: Boots. Interviewer: Okay but the cloth thing. That matched his suit, it'd be the coat and the... The bottom part of a of a suit would be his... 165: Pant. Interviewer: Okay and what about uh. Uh It's the one that you wore to work in, it had like a bib. 165: {X} Interviewer: And uh If you're outdoors in the winter, maybe working without your coat and somebody might come to you and say here I've Your coat, I've what? I've... 165: Took here your coat. You need it on. Interviewer: Okay I've... I what it to ya? I've... 165: I brought you your coat, you need it on, it's cold. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if it was the wrong package, somebody might say. I sent that to you by mistake, please... 165: Return it. Interviewer: Or br- 165: Or bring it. Interviewer: Okay and and then you might say well I, yesterday I Out to your house, I 165: Brought in you one there. Interviewer: Okay, and you might say Well that coat won't fit year, last year it... 165: Just right, it's too little this year. Interviewer: Okay, it's it, it won't fit now, but last year it... 165: Fitted. Interviewer: Okay. And if your uh old clothes are worn out a man might say well I've gotta go buy mm 165: A suit. Interviewer: Okay not an old suit but a... 165: A new suit, buy me a new suit? Interviewer: Okay, and if you still have a lot of things in the pockets uh they might say that they all 165: {X} out. Interviewer: Okay {NW} and if you wash something and uh it gets much smaller you might say well it... 165: Drawed up. Interviewer: Okay and another way to say that? 165: Shrank. Interviewer: Okay and I washed it yesterday and it. 165: It shrunk up. Interviewer: Okay and uh Lately it seems that every time I wash something it has... 165: Shrunken up, shrinks up. Interviewer: Okay And how do you describe it about maybe to one of your your granddaughters who likes to get ready for parties, you say she likes to 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay but uh she enjoys the getting ready. Making up and everything, how do you, do you have a word to say uh all of the things she does like fixing her hair, fixing her makeup, fixing her clothes, she likes to... 165: She likes She likes to {D; get ready on time}. Interviewer: Okay and to to dress up or to fix up or to pretty up? Any of those words? 165: Guess she likes to be pretty. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what do you uh What do you call this? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay and what about smaller one it's just carry a change in? Just for coins. 165: I don't know what you're talking about. Interviewer: Or maybe just slip it in your pocket you know or a little 165: That's handbag, that's a pocketbook ain't it? Interviewer: Okay, if it has a little clasp on it. You might say it's just a little... Purse? 165: Mm-hmm, a little purse or a Interviewer: Do you use that? No? You don't really use that, you say uh 165: After that there's a little pocketbook, and that's a handbag. Interviewer: Okay. And if it's a little bitty one you just say handbag? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. And what does a woman wear around her wrist? 165: A Bracelet Interviewer: And uh around her neck maybe a 165: Locket. Interviewer: Or if it's beads you might say she's got on a pretty... 165: Pearls. Interviewer: Okay Would you uh, the little thing that is strung on, that'll go around her neck, you might say a... uh beads, would you say uh, she's got on a long a something of beads? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: A long 165: Long row of beads. Interviewer: Row of beads? 165: Yes. Interviewer: String of beads? 165: String of beads. Interviewer: Did you ever, what about if you're talking about pearls? Just the same? 165: Yeah same thing. You know we used to just get beads and string 'em. Interviewer: Sure. 165: Get 'em off a old {X} and some old {X} Interviewer: Sure. 165: Just have a long string of beads. Interviewer: Okay and uh what do men wear to hold up their trousers? 165: Belt, galluses Interviewer: Okay and uh those things that fasten on the tops of overalls are... {NS} 165: Buckles on there. {X} Interviewer: Okay and if it's just, if it's on like they wear with a Sunday suit, maybe is it the same word as it is on the overalls? 165: It ain't like that on a Sunday suit. Interviewer: And wouldn't you call it the same thing? Call both of them galluses? 165: These suspenders. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if it's raining you have an 165: Umbrella. Interviewer: And what's the last thing you put on the bed when you make it up? 165: Spread. Interviewer: And at the very head of the bed you put your head on a... 165: Pillow. Interviewer: And what about the old one that used to go all the way across the bed? 165: {D:Post} Interviewer: Okay They have them? 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Uh And uh what do you put on a bed for warmth? 165: We used to have quilts. but blankets now. Interviewer: And uh what about uh if a little a little makeshift bed for children that you might fix on the floor Say I'll just fix her a little... 165: Pallet. Interviewer: And uh if you're talking about very rich land, you might say that field, the land over there is really very 165: Rich. Interviewer: Okay have you got another word for rich? Fertile? Fer-? 165: Well no that's fertilizer, what you put on it. Interviewer: Okay, but you don't say that it's just fertile. 165: It's just rich, that's rich land over there. Interviewer: Okay. And uh now most of the land around here is very level isn't it? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Uh Do you have any different words to describe this as opposed to maybe up further when it has more rises and things in it? Maybe up north where it goes through the mountains? 165: Well I would describe it as um level and that's hilly. Interviewer: Okay. And what about the uh, the land right around the a little uh um. Well what are the different kinds of uh water that runs around here, I know you didn't mess with them very much. What's the nearest river around here Rue? 165: Uh. Interviewer: Is it the Flint? 165: {D: The Rue,} I think Flint, yes, Flint's the nearest river. Interviewer: Okay and what's 165: #1 Muckalee. # Interviewer: #2 something # The 165: #1 That and the # Interviewer: #2 what? # 165: Muckalee. Interviewer: What is the Muckalee? 165: Oh this water running from one place {X} Interviewer: But you don't call it the Muckalee river, you call it Muckalee... 165: That I know, Flint river's the only river I think. Interviewer: And what do you say the Muckalee... 165: Creek. Interviewer: Uh-huh and then you have the creeks around you think of? 165: Well this Muckalee go all through here, somewhere down low is Muckalee someone Muckalee getting on down. Interviewer: Okay. And what about something smaller than a creek? 165: Either lakes and things I don't know much about them I tell ya I don't Interviewer: Okay {X} Well the thing that might run into the creek O- or what are land that lies along the creek, would you might. be more likely to have a different word for that. Did you ever say bottom land? 165: Yeah well we say the bottom down in the bottom. Interviewer: Okay now did they say that about the land here too? 165: {X} stand there in the bottom {X} Interviewer: The water would stand in there? 165: I don't, it the bottom Interviewer: What would you- you, did you have another word for that water stood in it? 165: Well they dug a ditch and you know, drained it off. Interviewer: Okay. 165: Where it would stand {X} Interviewer: Okay and when they do that to get water out there they say well, They're what the land there? Drain? 165: They drain it off, they'd they I forgot what they called them, what they'd called it. Interviewer: Drainage, ditch, or canal? 165: And they dug those ditches to drain the land off. Interviewer: Okay. And uh did they ever call it a swamp? 165: Yes, swamps. Interviewer: And what about marsh? 165: I don't know anything about that. Interviewer: Okay uh low lying grassland, you say that you know cows went out to pasture, did you ever have another word for that what was uh rich land. uh wasn't really good for anything other than raising grass. Did you ever talk about a meadow? 165: No. Interviewer: Didn't have meadows around here. Okay what, what different kinds of saw, how would they describe a maybe pour saw that has a lot of sand. 165: Yeah they would say {D:pour saw.} Interviewer: okay. And were there any other words? What about uh long or or a muck or gumbo or 165: I I would uh be sawmill {X} But I ain't been in no woods I don't like 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What did the sawmill folks 165: Talk about the muck. You know, down in the wood I got a {D: boy} sawmill. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: And be muddy. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: Had to wear boots and things. Interviewer: Okay. And if there's a been a real heavy rain and the water has cut a channel, what do they call that? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay And uh If it was maybe even deeper a real deep place might be called a ever hear a ravine? Gully? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Is a gully and a ditch about the same? 165: Yes. Gullies. Interviewer: And uh If uh {X} How far, hey you haven't told me this Ruth, How may you have traveled around a little bit? Been to out of the state or? 165: Yes ma'am, I've been out the state. Interviewer: Where all have you been? 165: I've been to uh Brooklyn, New York New York two or three times. I had a son there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: And then Hartford, Connecticut. Interviewer: Some of your family there too? 165: I had a niece that died {X} Buried 'em up there, I went up there to the funeral. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: And I've been to South Carolina, I went up there last year to my grandson Gregory {X} {X} {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: I didn't get a chance to see her though. I've been out of the state. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Seems like you're maybe go visit this son, you said you have a son in Europe? Son and daughter? 165: I had a granddaughter in Europe No I ain't going there. Interviewer: No? I think it'll be good. 165: Get on them planes you go there. Interviewer: Yeah? It'll be fun. 165: Not with me, I ain't getting on no plane. {NW} Over there my son wanted me to come on a plane. Last time I went I told him I'll ride the bus I. Rather take them Twenty to Fifteen fourteen hours on the bus. {NW} Interviewer: Get in a plane. Alright And uh Did you say that a gully and a and a ditch are about the same? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if a, if there's just a not perfectly flat but a little, just a little bit of a rise, you might say well there's a little 165: A hill. {NS} Interviewer: And uh What about up around the mountains when there's those little round places that are getting steeper? What about the thing that you use when you open a door, you turn the... 165: Door knob. Interviewer: Have you heard a little hill called a knob? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. And if it's very large and much higher than a hill, you say that's a great big... 165: Big hill. Interviewer: Mm-hmm but if it's just like you know up in North Georgia and they're Huge, you know I'd say it is more than hills, those are up in the Mm. Up in the Smokey 165: Mountains. Interviewer: Okay. How'd you say that? 165: A smoky mountain {X} {X} Interviewer: Okay, and uh Up in the mountains where a road goes across to a low place, you might say well. Or what about something that uh Uh you might take and cut a little thing like that in wood or did you ever sew? 165: No not much. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You never did work with patterns? Stripes? 165: No I ain't good with patterns now. I could have, if I'd had Trained it on up when I gone to school I Got a little song and I took a little lesson at school {X} Interviewer: Sure. 165: I'd take a look at pictures, I want that one. Interviewer: I was just wondering if you remember those little things that cut kind of a little V shaped thingy in a pattern. 165: No I don't remember that. Interviewer: Notch? 165: {X} Interviewer: Did you ever use the word notch? 165: Yes, yes I might have used them, used a notch. Interviewer: You ever use it about, anything about uh in wood or anything? 165: Yeah. Notch in the wood. Interviewer: Okay. And what would you call a place where a large amount of water falls a long distance. 165: A waterfall. Interviewer: For water, you know like a river or Niagara. It's a great, #1 great big # 165: #2 waterfall? # Interviewer: What do you call that, say that's a great big... 165: Oh. Waterfall? Interviewer: Okay. And uh tell me about the the- the roads uh {X} The different kind of roads, the way they used to be and then when they started making 'em a little bit better. 165: Oh well we used to be ready The road goes to the station from where we lived. And it was muddy. And- but we didn't travel that road, come through the woods. call that place a hut some would come through the woods. And we'd get in the field and go to come through the railroad. It'd be so muddy and slippery when it rains we'd get, we We tried to come to school {X} {X} Long in the ditches there. You know all along the road there for two or three days. Looked like it used to be {D: coal} and it'd be {X} Interviewer: Sure. 165: Look like you couldn't tell the winter from the summer. {NW} It'd be so warm for long but it didn't feel that way. Aw man. Interviewer: Okay and then when they started making the roads a little bit better what did they make 'em out of? 165: The slush pails were already {X} Whole rocks. And then we have hanging on the {X} Well. {X} Was where I was with my husband driving all the way And they was hauling the rocks from over here to a lake {X} Place it, putting big rocks down in a row all along. Interviewer: So was that to fill up bad places? 165: It fills up the roads then the {X} Interviewer: Uh what'd they call, what was the black stuff they poured on it? 165: Yeah, that thing. They didn't add it. {X} {D: Pailing} {X} {D: These pails coming from all over.} On them rolls like pails like that. Interviewer: I see. Okay and uh Uh Then after they'd gr- started grinding the rock up a little finer, what did they call that? 165: They- they- they would you know grind them up. But long night after that they would rocks this big they'd haul them haul 'em over a field somewhere back in that way. They got 'em. Interviewer: That's a pretty rough road. 165: Yes but they smoothed it off and Puts a top over that. Interviewer: Right. Well uh now you say that out there is uh made of what? 165: They would put half of the cement they called it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh cement or concrete you ever hear? 165: Yeah. They had some cement. Interviewer: And what about a little road that goes off of the main road maybe say that's a little... 165: Through road, through, they say take that road and tell ya places through to somebody else's place. Interviewer: Alright and if it's from the barn out to the pasture, you might say well I'm gonna walk down the... 165: {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm what would you call that kind of a little place? Maybe it wasn't wide enough for a car or buggy or anything just 165: #1 There'd have to be a path. # Interviewer: #2 to walk # Okay. Do you ever hear a lane? 165: Yes. Interviewer: What is a lane? {X} 165: I don't know my {X} They called it a lane, that's a lane Interviewer: Okay and uh and maybe the thing that you have sometimes along the side of the street for people to walk on, What do you call that? 165: Street. Interviewer: Uh and if it's a that little paved thing along the side of it, is that, that's out in the middle, you say that's the street but like, uh you might say to children now don't get out on the street, stay on the... 165: Tell 'em stay on the sidewalk. Interviewer: Okay And uh If you are walking along um the road and a dog jumps out at you scares you What would you pick up and throw maybe? 165: Anything you can get hold of. {NW} Interviewer: Okay and what would say you did with it, you say I... 165: Say I throwed it at him. Interviewer: Okay so you might uh pick up uh something and you'd say uh oh no we, we'd talk about that one. If you go to somebody's house and uh and he's not there you might say Is he here? And they would say no he 165: He's gone Interviewer: Okay, he's not at 165: Not here yet. Interviewer: He's not home, he's not, he's not, what would you put in front of home, he's not 165: {X} I say he not home Interviewer: Okay Would you ever be like and say he's not at home or to home 165: #1 No I wouldn't say that. # Interviewer: #2 He's not home. # 165: {X} Interviewer: #1 Okay # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And uh Talking about uh putting milk in coffee you say some people like it 165: like cream and some like milk Interviewer: Okay. Um Uh and you might ask somebody do you like it milk how 165: do you like like it black or like it milk and sugar Interviewer: Okay. and um Have you ever heard any uh is it is it I don't want anything in it you just say I just drink it 165: Black. Interviewer: Okay. You ever heard any other ways of saying black coffee, do you remember uh? 165: No. {X} {NS} Interviewer: And uh if someone is not going away from you you say well he's coming straight 165: {D: He coming something} Interviewer: Coming me, coming 165: to me Interviewer: Okay. Uh, toward toward 165: toward me Interviewer: What 165: He's coming toward me Interviewer: Okay. And if you saw somebody you hadn't seen for a long time you might say well this morning I was downtown and I so and so 165: see somebody I did- hadn't seen in a long time. Interviewer: Alright would you be likely to say I ran I ran 165: I ran into somebody Interviewer: Okay. And if a child is given the same name that his father has you might say they name the child his father 165: His name Interviewer: They named him his father I I'm just wondering would you be more likely to say they named him for his father or they named him after his father? 165: They named him after his father. Interviewer: Okay. And um uh they uh The animal that barks is uh 165: A dog Interviewer: A what 165: A dog Interviewer: Okay and if you want a dog to attack another dog what do you say to him? 165: Sic it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And uh if a dog is um mixed breed what do you call him he's not a pure bred something you might say he's just a 165: Just a dog. Interviewer: Okay. Uh what about if he's a very small and very na- noisy little dog yapping you got a word for little bitty dog who's real loud? 165: mm Interviewer: A uh feist or a mongrel you ever? 165: {D: A feist they something a feist that's all} Interviewer: Okay. and and uh if the dog actually bit him well that boy was 165: picking at the dog cuz he wouldn't have bit him if he hadn't {D: barked} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # You say uh Well uh I'm afraid that dog will 165: He bite you. Interviewer: Okay. and uh every uh People go over there all the time and uh and every time anybody goes there the dog has 165: Bit me. Interviewer: Okay. and um and a herd of cattle what do you call the the, the male 165: bull. Interviewer: Okay. and did you do you remember uh around women that they might've used another word uh maybe more polite word or was that just all 165: #1 That's all I know. # Interviewer: #2 word they all # Okay. and um and of course the one you keep your milk is the 165: Milk cow. Interviewer: Okay. And uh the one's that you drive to uh um to work are the uh 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Two two mules or call it you what? # 165: You talking about the ox? Interviewer: Okay. Did you ever see anybody work? 165: Ox I guess, if I seen a man or two come {D: to the working ox} Interviewer: Yea, and what do they call it was two of them they said uh {X} What about a, talking about uh mules if there were two of them you might say that's a nice looking 165: Calf. Interviewer: Okay. And uh uh the cow has a baby 165: Calf. Interviewer: And uh how did you uh say that uh the cow was expecting a calf you'd say well Daisy if that were her name Daisy's going to 165: Have a calf. Interviewer: Okay. And the male horse was called uh 165: Mare. #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 Uh is that the male? # 165: Nah. Interviewer: #1 Mare was a female wasn't it # 165: #2 {X} # Yes. Interviewer: And what'd you call male you remember? 165: mm Interviewer: Uh. 165: #1 Yea a stud # Interviewer: #2 A stud or # Okay. And uh Uh {NW} You might have one horse or you might have several. One's a horse and several Interviewer: What'd you say? 165: Several horses. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you don't know how to ride you uh you might say Well I'd like to but I have never 165: #1 A horse. # Interviewer: #2 A horse. # 165: I'd say I ne- never rode a horse. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say everybody around here likes to horses 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Horses. # And uh uh yesterday I got on the horse and I 165: Rode. Interviewer: Okay. If you couldn't stay couldn't stay on the horse you might say well I fell 165: {X} {NW} Interviewer: Okay. Uh fell? 165: Off. Interviewer: Okay. And if a little child went to sleep in bed but the next morning he was on the floor he might say well I must have 165: Fell out the bed. Interviewer: Okay. What are the things that you put on a horse's feet to protect them? 165: Shoes. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 Horseshoes. # Interviewer: Okay. And the part of the horse's feet that you put the shoes on to are the the horse's 165: hoof Interviewer: Okay. A hoof and he has four 165: {D: Hoof} #1 Hoof # Interviewer: #2 Four # How's that? 165: Four of them hoof. Interviewer: Okay. And uh the game that you play with the those things is called 165: #1 Um. # Interviewer: #2 You know throwing it? # 165: Horseshoe. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you said you didn't have sheep much around here, do you happen to remember what they call a male sheep? 165: Uh. {D: I don't know.} Interviewer: Okay. and a female sheep either? 165: No I do- {NS} Most the sheep I see is on the TV Interviewer: #1 Oh okay # 165: #2 {X} # But that stuff that grows on the sheep's back is called Wool isn't it? {NS} Interviewer: Alright a male hog is a {NS} {NS} {NS} 165: Boar. Interviewer: And uh If uh if they want him so that he wouldn't uh uh be the father of little pigs What do they they do to uh what do they call it when they fix themselves so they wouldn't have a 165: {D: What they call something} {NS} {D: They spay a something} {NS} Interviewer: Yea how's that? #1 Uh huh. Okay. # 165: #2 {D: I said it spays a something to keep it from having pig.} # Interviewer: Uh do you remember do they that on the farm when uh they didn't want the 165: Yea yea. Interviewer: The boar. What did they do you remember what they called it? 165: oh Interviewer: And do you remember what they would call a male after he's been fixed that way? 165: No. Interviewer: You ever hear a barrow? Barrow? #1 {D: Barrow} # 165: #2 {D:mm} # bar #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 uh huh # I think maybe that's what it is they say uh castrated 165: Yes Interviewer: Uh huh. Any other way of saying that you remember? Cut or 165: {X} Yes they cut the they'll cut the pig while they're holding it in the sides you know Interviewer: #1 Meat wasn't good when it was uh # 165: #2 Now # {X} killed one with that heat in it it ain't good. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay. And uh all of the um The baby ones are called the little ones where it's first born is called uh 165: Pigs. Interviewer: And when they get a little older they call them uh {NS} 165: Hogs. Interviewer: Okay. Did you ever hear them called shoats? 165: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 What's # 165: #2 Shoats. # Interviewer: What's what's that kind of in between? 165: Yes. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. And what are those stiff hairs on a hog's back? They use them to make hair braces sometimes. Now remember bristle? {X} 165: Yes {X} Interviewer: Okay. Alright what about those big teeth that the hog had? Remember? 165: {D: Yes} I know they have big some of them have great big teeth. Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah sometimes they have that they call them {X} 165: Yes. Interviewer: #1 Ha- you remember how this # 165: #2 Yea # They'd cut 'em put some of 'em pull 'em Interviewer: Yeah what'd they call them? 165: Tusks Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {D: They'd kill it} # You know {X} Interviewer: Yeah {NS} And uh the place where you put the food for a hog would be a 165: trough Interviewer: Okay and two of them would be hog 165: Troughs. Interviewer: Uh and uh You ever had any names for a hog that grew up wild around here? 165: No. Interviewer: You didn't have {X} 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about the noise that's made by a uh calf when it was being weaned? What do they say it did he was The calf would Uh if he's a big cow you'd say the cow goes Have we gotten 165: I don't know {X} Interviewer: Yeah? {NS} Well you remember how they kind of fuss when you're trying to wean them? 165: Yes sometimes {X} Interviewer: Uh I was wondering if they say uh it'd be more likely to say uh bleat or bawl or 165: They always took 'em away. Interviewer: Yeah. 165: The calf would would given milk {X} for awhile You know. {X} Interviewer: #1 But # 165: #2 Okay. # {X} Interviewer: Okay and uh The the general noise that a cow would make maybe would be 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay. And what about a horse? Uh neigh or whinny? Either one of those? 165: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 Is um # Don't remember that one okay. And if um you're gonna go out and feel feed say the horses and the mules and the cattle uh How'd you say that I'm gonna go out {C: nn} 165: Feed up That's what I'd say. Interviewer: Alright and did you have any other uh things besides chickens in the way of that type of thing? 165: Guineas. Interviewer: Yeah? What about turkeys? You ever have turkeys? 165: No. We didn't have turkeys we had {X} Interviewer: You had to hunt them? 165: yeah. Interviewer: They go off and hide? 165: Yes and you'd put your hand in 'em they wouldn't lay back in there. Interviewer: Oh. They'd move to some other 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 165: {X} Interviewer: Huh. 165: I had a sister used to make me so mad with her She'd find 'em though. She'd tell mom {X} hunt again. I said you wanna go hunting {D: go yourself} They'd lay by eleven o'clock Interviewer: At night or in the morning? 165: In the morning. They'd eleven o'clock you'd {X} {X} In the front of that house where we stayed. Right through the bottom Go down and find {X} {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 165: #2 {X} # I'd kill her {X} Interviewer: Tha- She thought that was fun? 165: She liked the blackberry pie {X} Interviewer: Uh huh. {NW} Okay and if you're going to feed the hens and the guineas what would you say I gotta go out and 165: Feed the chickens. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And um A hen on a nest of eggs is called a 165: Sitting hen Interviewer: And uh a place where you might put a hen or a chicken just to take them somewhere 165: Put them in a coop. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about that bone uh when you cook a chicken that the children used to like to 165: #1 Pull it bone. # Interviewer: #2 break? # The what? 165: Pull it bone. Interviewer: Okay and {X} Which was the lucky side? The little one or the big one? The long one? 165: The the big one Interviewer: And what what was gonna happen if you got that 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 It was # 165: got married first Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: I see. And uh do you have a word for the insides the different parts of the chicken you would eat? Just one word that meant all of them together? The heart or the gizzards or whatever? 165: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 No. # And uh that part of the uh uh hog that you sometimes eat and sometimes use to stuff sausage in What do you call that? 165: {D: Tassels.} Interviewer: Okay. And if you uh if you cook it up if you uh clean it real good and cook it up in little pieces And sometimes I think they used it for uh bread. No? Um 165: {X} The children they got they cleaned them and they The other part the upper one with the cases They cleaned them Stuff the sausage {X} Interviewer: Okay. And if it's time to feed the cattle uh they'd say well its about that time it's 165: Time to feed up Oh at night I'll feed up feed 'em once a day I'll feed 'em twice a day Interviewer: Feed up? 165: {X} Time to feed up. Interviewer: Okay good. Would you say her name too or? 165: Yes something like that Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {D: Come on Mary} # Cut cow cut. Interviewer: Okay. And uh What would you say to a cow to make her stand still when you milk? 165: Back your leg. Interviewer: Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. And what about calling a calf? Would you have a different word to call a calf? 165: No. Interviewer: Same way? 165: Yessum. Interviewer: Okay and what about to call mules or horses? Or to make them turn to the left or to the right when you're driving them? What'd they say? 165: I don't know. Interviewer: #1 Never heard about uh that one? # 165: #2 No. # Interviewer: Alright uh uh do you remember hearing anybody call or what you said you probably had a horse if he were out in the pasture how would he call him? 165: He didn't have him out in the pas- he had him in a lot. Interviewer: Okay. 165: And his name was Joey. {X} {X} Interviewer: #1 He'd com- # 165: #2 He'd come running he was a # fine horse. Interviewer: Okay. And to get uh to to get a horse to go on faster you'd say 165: Come up. Interviewer: mm-kay And to get him to stop you'd say? 165: Woah. Interviewer: And uh what about to call the pigs when feeding them? 165: {NW} They'd come running. Interviewer: They'd come huh? Uh and uh. {D: and their sheep uh} What about how'd you call the chickens? 165: {NW} Interviewer: Okay. And um When you're uh when they're going to put uh to get the horses ready to go somewhere to go to work they'd have to say I've gotta go The horses or the mules I gotta go 165: Gotta go to work now Interviewer: #1 Alright and put all that stuff on that you had to have # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: I'm gonna go what what'd you put on 165: Harnesses. Interviewer: Okay. And is that the way you say it I gotta go harness or gear or 165: You had to go put the gears on them when you're going to work you'd say put the gears on them Interviewer: What about if you're going to put them to the buggy? Would there be a different word if they're going to the buggy? 165: harnesses to put on 'em to the buggy Interviewer: Okay. and if you're driving a horse or a mule what do you hold in you're hands? 165: The lines Interviewer: And if you're riding a horse back you got him with the? 165: You have a halt on {X} Interviewer: Okay. And what do you put your feet in when you're riding a horse back? 165: {D: Feed} Interviewer: Uh huh you know those things that you uh 165: #1 Oh saddles. # Interviewer: #2 on the saddle? # #1 # 165: #2 # Interviewer: #1 The little thing down at the feet went in # 165: #2 {D: They were saddles} # We'd call them saddles. Interviewer: The big thing that you sat on was a 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 saddle? # 165: {X} you know. Interviewer: Okay did you ever hear them called stirrup? Interviewer: #1 No. # 165: #2 No. # Interviewer: Um. And if something is not right here But you might say well it's just a little? Over there just a little How'd you say maybe it's out in the field not too far it's just a little 165: Down in the field? Interviewer: Uh huh a little way a little distance how would- 165: I said down there in the field. Down by the ditch down there or Interviewer: A little away? A little piece? 165: A little piece down there. Interviewer: Okay. 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 But if you been try- # How's that? 165: Said a little piece down the {X} Interviewer: Alright. And uh if you've been traveling and have not finished your journey you might say well I've gotta before dark I've gotta 165: I nearly got {X} little piece further to go. Interviewer: And if it's more than a little piece if it's uh It's many many miles you might say well I gotta before dark. 165: I gotta lotta miles to make up. Interviewer: Okay. Uh a long way? Uh {D: a fur piece} uh A good ways? #1 What would be more # 165: #2 {X} # You said long ways. And a long way yet to go. Interviewer: Okay. And if um if something is very common very familiar you might just uh you don't have to look for it in any special place You might say well you're gonna find that just about 165: Anywhere. Interviewer: And if someone were on the ice maybe and he slipped and fell this what you'd say He fell? 165: Broke his back broke his neck Interviewer: Okay he fell how? 165: He broke his neck. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And uh If he fell this way you'd say he fell 165: #1 He skinned his knees # Interviewer: #2 You're talking about the # 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # #1 I'm just talking about the direction he fell in # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 He'd stand up he fell this way # 165: #2 In front. # Interviewer: He fell fa- 165: {X} Interviewer: And this way he fell? 165: Back. Interviewer: Okay. How? 165: Backwards. Interviewer: Okay. And um If uh If somebody went uh maybe hunting Did you're father ever go hunting? 165: No. Interviewer: No? {X} 165: No. {D:There was no fish net} Interviewer: Okay. And uh If you um Somebody might say Have you got a so maybe cabbage out in the garden You might say well I don't have a single head I don't have {D: A what don't have} 165: #1 I don't # Interviewer: #2 How would y- # 165: have anymore. Long gone. Interviewer: Okay. Alright if uh the the teacher is is fussing a boy at school and he he didn't feel he deserved if he might say w-what she fussing at me for I nothing wrong I 165: I ain't done nothing wrong Interviewer: Alright. And if somebody uh Uh borrows uh Oh say the rake you use in the yard and it was one you didn't particularly care for anyway you might say Oh that's alright I didn't like it 165: That's alright something happened that's alright {X} that's alright Interviewer: I didn't like it? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. And uh Uh a child maybe there were two children out and one had some candy and the other one wanted some he might say well he was eating candy and he didn't give me 165: {D:He didn't give none of it} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {D:That what he said} # Interviewer: And if uh If one of your uh granddaughters is going to visit a friend going to be there from uh say one afternoon until the next day you might say well she's going over there to 165: Spend the night. Interviewer: Alright. And what about if you talk about uh the noise you might say uh uh at one oh clock you know I heard something sometime in the night how would you say that? 165: Heard something last night didn't you hear #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # And uh would you be more likely to say in the night or during the night or? 165: {D: I'd say} {X} about one oh clock last Interviewer: #1 Alright # 165: #2 about two or something like that # Interviewer: Alright. And uh if you're Uh how would you say uh you think Something probably is going to happen You might say well that boy is just {D: foul} When he grows up Um He'll have his troubles. 165: I say when he grow up he gonna make his momma cry. Interviewer: Okay. 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {D: Like he's not or after he's not} # How would you say it? 165: I say {X} make his momma cry Interviewer: Alright. And uh those the trench like thing that is cut by a plow is called the? You know that little When they go plowing and they lay it up like that, a fur? 165: Yes. Interviewer: #1 How would you say it? # 165: #2 I'd say # {X} After that you {X} Interviewer: Okay. To plant something? Alright and uh If you have a real good yield you might say well we really raised a big? 165: We had a good crop year this year. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if there's a lot of brush or trees in the land on the land and you cut them all down You might say well we what the 165: #1 We # Interviewer: #2 land? # 165: clean up the bushes off the land. Interviewer: And if you uh cut hay early and then it grows some more and uh There's some left to be cut again you might say well we gotta What? 165: We have to cut just got to cut the grass again. Interviewer: Okay would you call it a {X} 165: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 the something to be made hay out of # 165: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 Would you say a second cutting or second crop? # 165: Yes a second crop. Interviewer: Okay. And uh The wheat you said was uh tied up in uh bu- the oats you said were tied up in bundles didn't you? And it was piled up into a Would you say a {D: shock} 165: They sh- shocked it around like that you know. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say what would be a good crop to the acre? How would you say that? You know bushels to the acre? You remember? 165: No I don't remember. Interviewer: Well you might say we raised forty of oaks to an acre m- How would you say that in a sentence? We raised? 165: I don't know. {D: I don't know.} Interviewer: Uh I just want I want you to use {X} Use the word bushel somehow like uh. Uh. Just you know just guessing 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 165: {D: one of them that would} Interviewer: Oh. Okay. I knew it wouldn't be too bad. Let's just see. {D: Let's see X} We won't we don't have very much more because I don't want you getting tired. Um. I just wanted you to use the word bushel like uh ask somebody how many? 165: {D: Bushel X} {NS} Interviewer: Thirty? Forty bushels {D: don't something} ten acres. 165: #1 Something like that. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Okay. And uh You might say what do you with oats you just separate the grain from the rest of it? You say the oats is? The oats? 165: They They thrash them. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Every year in August the oats is? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. Um If uh If you're talking about not just yourself but you're talking about uh me too You might say well This is uh Not just me or not just you but it's 165: Us. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. 165: #1 Both of us. # Interviewer: #2 Both of us. # Okay. And if you're some friends of yours are coming over you might say well well um Uh. Maybe it's Mary and you and instead of saying Mary, you might say Oh she or her uh and How would you say they're coming over? 165: {X} Her and her daughter coming over. Interviewer: Okay uh would you say her and me are coming over? 165: {X} Interviewer: Alright and if you knock at the door and somebody says who's there you'd say? It's 165: {NW} oh they call your name what they say me #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. Alright expect they'd figure they know who it is # They recognize your voice? 165: {NW} Interviewer: Alright talking about how tall you are Um. And you're taller than than maybe your daughter you might say She's not as tall as 165: As I am. Interviewer: And uh Talking about somebody who's taller you might say 165: #1 They tall- # Interviewer: #2 Huh? # 165: They taller than I am. Interviewer: Okay or I'm not as tall as? 165: She is. Interviewer: Okay. And uh talking about how well you can do something you might say well uh comparing you and you're daughter you might say well I can do it better than 165: She can. Interviewer: #1 Or she can do it # 165: #2 better than I can. # Interviewer: Okay. And uh If uh a man had been running just as fast as he could go and he just had to stop you'd say well two miles is He could go. 165: That's right. {NS} Interviewer: Uh. Oh yeah Uh talking about the the distance that he could run you might say Well two miles is 165: All he can run. Interviewer: Okay. And if something belongs to me you might say it's 165: Mine. It's mine. Interviewer: Alright if it belongs to me 165: #1 That's yours. # Interviewer: #2 You'd say # Alright. Or if it belongs to 165: You might say its so and It's uh Interviewer: #1 Oh. # 165: #2 It's theirs. I'd say it's theirs. # Interviewer: And if it's just one person? It's? 165: Theirs. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if its uh Is that your your son? 165: #1 grandparents # Interviewer: #2 grand- # Okay you might say talking about him it's 165: It belongs to him. Interviewer: Okay it's hi-? 165: His. Interviewer: Alright and if uh it's your granddaughter you'd say its 165: It's hers. Interviewer: Okay. And uh talking to uh all of them when they're leaving you might say where are 165: you going. Interviewer: Okay and if it's two or three of them? 165: {X} Interviewer: Where are? 165: {X} Interviewer: You or you all? 165: Oh you all. Where y'all going? Interviewer: More than one person you'd probably say 165: #1 I'd say y'all. # Interviewer: #2 you all? # 165: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # Sure. Okay. And if you were uh the some of the children had been to the party and you wanted to know uh the people who were there you might ask them who? 165: Who was there? Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {D: That was of them X} # Interviewer: Okay. Who all? Would you say? 165: I'd say tell me some of the names were there. Interviewer: Okay. And if you're asking about what somebody would say would you say what all did he say? 165: What they say? Interviewer: What they say alright. And if nobody else will look out for uh them you might say well They gotta look out 165: #1 For themselves. # Interviewer: #2 for? # And if no one else will do it for him you'd say well 165: #1 He gotta do it hisself. # Interviewer: #2 uh h- he better # 165: gotta look out for hisself. Interviewer: Okay and. What is bread made of that's baked in loaves? 165: {D: White bread} Interviewer: Okay. And uh If it's what's the difference in whether or not you put uh that stuff you put in it to make it rise is? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. And uh do you have a different name for it if you don't put yeast in it? {X} 165: {D: Oh I don't know.} Interviewer: Okay. And what other kinds of bread do you have uh besides that you make it into a loaf You might say you bake a pan of? 165: Biscuits. Interviewer: Okay. And uh What about the kind that you make out of cornmeal? 165: Egg bread. {X} Interviewer: Okay. And what about uh Egg bread is uh is in 165: #1 Loaf. # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # Okay. 165: I make muffins {D: in the muffin things} Interviewer: Okay. And what about the kind 165: #1 corn cornbread # Interviewer: #2 that you don't # What? 165: Corn. Interviewer: #1 That you don't put eggs in it # 165: #2 Cornbread. # No not corn cornbread. Interviewer: And it's just a little paddy like this? 165: Oh it's a it's a little corn you bake it and stuff. Interviewer: Okay. And uh uh what about something else made of cornmeal maybe something that you cook with uh uh some sort of um uh vegetables drop it in with it to cook. 165: Corn. Corn dogs they call 'em {X} Interviewer: Okay. 165: That was good. Interviewer: yeah? and you still make it? 165: Sometimes. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 Whenever I can get it # {D: get the salad} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Sure. And the kind that you uh Do you fix hush puppies? 165: Yessum Interviewer: Uh any other kind of uh bread made with cornmeal? Did you ever make mush? 165: {D: N-no} Interviewer: For somebody that's sick maybe? 165: Yes. I made uh I don't know what they call them {X} and take the broth and put onion and black pepper in it. Then she cooked it. They call that some kinda mush. Interviewer: #1 Uh. # 165: #2 It was # {X} Interviewer: {NW} Did you ever hear that called scrapple? 165: No. What is- Interviewer: Like a mush that was used the juice 165: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 or? # Uh huh. Uh you don't remember a name for it. 165: No. Interviewer: If you think of that one well tell me. 165: I will if I think of that call that. Interviewer: Uh. 165: Tastes good though. Interviewer: #1 Alright what else uh # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: When you you killed hogs what were some of the other stuff that you had? If you butchered a hog? What did you make from the meat of the head maybe? 165: {D: south meat?} Interviewer: yeah. And uh. Uh what about uh 165: {X} Interviewer: #1 From the livers? # 165: #2 From the livers? # {X} Interviewer: Did you make that? 165: Yes. Interviewer: How was that? 165: Tastes good. Interviewer: Was that with the onion? 165: yeah. And uh what about did you make anything out of the blood? {NS} No. Interviewer: Okay. And uh of course the the that one is ground up pork and makes 165: Sausage. Interviewer: And the man that uh used to go or if you think about going to uh buy uh who sells meat is the what? 165: The butcher. Interviewer: Butcher. And uh the kind of meat that you buy and slice real thin to eat with eggs is 165: Bacon. Interviewer: And what about the kind that uh like that the whole part of the the hog that side how did you call that? 165: {D: Min- something} Interviewer: Okay {D: min-} I've never heard that word {X} Alright and uh {NW} The kind of meat you use out of that to cook with vegetables maybe off of the s- I think it came off of the side. 165: Off the {D: min-} Interviewer: Off the back? 165: Backbone? Interviewer: Uh huh and the kind you put in to cook with uh vegetables? 165: {X} off the {D: m-} and then shoulders. Interviewer: Okay that that fat 165: #1 Yes y- yes # Interviewer: #2 It's theirs. # 165: off the shoulder Interviewer: What'd you call that? 165: and fatback Interviewer: Okay. 165: that's right in the back Interviewer: Okay. and uh If you you took the uh hams and the shoulder and maybe put them out in the smokehouse and that part that was the where the bacon sliced off of what'd you call that when you hung it up what is that? 165: The bacon {X} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Uh huh. # 165: {X} {NS} The middling. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. And uh Th-that that uh part that you had to cut off the outside part that you cut off to cook the bacon is the 165: That's is is that's called a slab part of it. Interviewer: Okay. Are the the skin or the edge of it you call the Rind? 165: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 You get your own rind okay. # And um There's there two kinds of bread, there's the homemade kind and the kind that you buy at the store. You might call that At the store you'd say it's not homemade bread it's 165: {X} {X} Light bread. Interviewer: Mm ah okay. You said light bread? 165: Mm. Interviewer: Now so this is not homemade bread this is light bread okay. Light bread minute was bought at 165: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 the store? # Okay. And what about that kind of um Of uh uh dough that you cut like this and 165: #1 doughn- # Interviewer: #2 take a hole out # What? 165: Doughnuts. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you say that uh your family doesn't too much like biscuits anymore but they like the kind you put butter and syrup on you call them? 165: Hotcakes. Interviewer: Okay. And if you go to the store to buy flour now you might say well I wanna buy two Of flour. Two? Or five? 165: Five pound. Interviewer: And uh. The inside part of an egg is the? 165: Yolk. Yolk. Interviewer: Okay you say yolk {D: and yaw or y'all} 165: {D: got yoke out the} Interviewer: Okay and if you put eggs in hot water and cook them with the shells on you call them? 165: Boiled egg? Interviewer: And if you crack them and drop them out of the shell and cook them in hot water they're? 165: Poached. No. Interviewer: Poached egg I've heard that. 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. And if um if you keep butter too long and it didn't taste good how would you say it tastes? 165: Rancid. Interviewer: Alright and uh The thick sour milk that you keep on hand is called? 165: Sour milk. Interviewer: Okay and that kind of milk that just gets kinda thick and you know slice it? 165: Yes. It that's buttermilk clabber Interviewer: Okay. 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Did you ever make cheese out of that? # 165: No. Interviewer: Uh you never did make homemade uh cottage cheese? 165: Mm no. although my granddaughter's sent me a case of Dutch cheese from Interviewer: From Europe? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. That must've been good. 165: {D: Oh I like it.} Used to have {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 165: #2 I # couldn't use all of it course I put it in a big freezer Interviewer: #1 Sure. # 165: #2 and wrapped it up and # cut it up and wrapped it up. Interviewer: #1 Sure. yeah? # 165: #2 Real good cheese. Good cheese. # Interviewer: I bet it was. Okay when you milk what is the first thing you do after milking? You pour it through something to 165: Strain it. Interviewer: And uh what kind of uh sort of dessert is baked in a deep dish and maybe it's made of apples or some kind of fruit? 165: Baked apples or? Interviewer: #1 Well you put some pastry down a dough. # 165: #2 Oh. Apple # pie. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 Apple dumpling. # Oh I mean um apple chops. Interviewer: Okay. And if you have maybe a big uh bowl that you can put in the oven or a pan like this and you put a pastry all the way across the bottom you put a layer of fruit and then sugar and butter and then maybe you put another layer of pastry on top 165: That's old fashioned pie. Interviewer: Okay. Uh did you call it cobbler? No? 165: No. Interviewer: Apple pie or Peach pie? 165: I made apple {X} {X} about them. Interviewer: #1 Was that just with the the fruit in the dough? # 165: #2 yeah. # Fruit in the dough and butter and sugar {X} Interviewer: Mm-kay. And did you put some kind of something sweet sauce over that? 165: No I didn't want nothing on it. {X} I browned it {X} You know and be white. That butter will be brown and crispy all the way through. Interviewer: Sounds good. 165: That will be good I hate {X} {NW} Interviewer: Okay. And uh if somebody has a real good appetite you might say he sure likes to put away his 165: Food. Interviewer: Mm-kay did you ever say vittles 165: Yes. {X} Interviewer: Both of them? No. 165: Vittles. Interviewer: You'd be more likely to say food? 165: Yes I'd say food I didn't say Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 165: #2 {D: vittles} # Interviewer: And uh with different uh with puddings or whatever er- Would you ever serve a sweet liquid something that you'd pour over? some puddings? 165: Yes. {X} Interviewer: What'd you call that? 165: Uh syrup no. Lemon sauce or with gingerberry Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Okay what do you call just a little bit of food that you might eat between meals? 165: Snack. Interviewer: Hmm? 165: Called it a snack. Interviewer: Okay. And uh how did you to talk about when you have your food you might say everyday I? breakfast at seven oh clock I? 165: Eat dinner at twelve Interviewer: Okay. But last night I 165: Didn't eat no supper {X} Interviewer: A what? 165: Last night I didn't eat no supper. Interviewer: Okay. And uh all my life everyday I have 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay I'm talking about taking in food 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 though like at seven oh clock everyday I have # 165: eat on time. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what do people usually drink for breakfast? 165: Coffee. Interviewer: Mm-kay and do you usually say uh uh that you're going to ha-how do you say you're gonna prepare coffee? You say I'm going to go Some coffee I'm going to go 165: I'm gonna put my pot on and {X} Interviewer: Okay. And what what do you drink when you're thirsty? 165: Water. Interviewer: And you have it in a 165: Glass. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And uh if you're talking about a glass uh Y-you might say be careful talking to the child be careful don't 165: #1 Break it. # Interviewer: #2 drop it. # Alright. And If somebody did drop you'd say look there 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 you # 165: Broke that glass. Interviewer: Alright and If you're talking about a child that's maybe real clumsy you say every time y- Every time he has come here he has 165: Broken a glass. Interviewer: Okay. And um. If you uh talking about uh water you might say well I a lot of it I 165: I drank a lot of water. Interviewer: Okay. and then say maybe yesterday I you had uh eight glasses you say yesterday I 165: I say I drank eight glasses of water. Interviewer: Alright and uh all my life I have 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 that much water. # I have 165: Drank {X} Interviewer: Okay and if you're when dinner is on the table the family's standing around What do you say to them to get them in there? 165: Dinner ready. Interviewer: Come on and 165: sit down. Interviewer: Okay. And uh when they come in the dining room you might say won't you? 165: Sit down. Interviewer: And uh So he at the table he {D: you said him} sit down and then he 165: Said the blessing. Interviewer: Okay but uh after he got into the chair you might say well he's in that chair. To say he was in that chair you might say he? 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 ru- # He's 165: He sits in that chair. Interviewer: And yesterday he 165: Sit over there. Interviewer: #1 And uh # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: All his life when he has come to see me he 165: #1 {D: sat in that chair} # Interviewer: #2 has # Okay. And if you want somebody not to wait until the potatoes are passed you might say uh uh yourself. 165: Help yourself. Interviewer: Okay. And uh You might say well he went ahead and #1 himself. # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And what? 165: Helped hisself. Interviewer: Okay and since he had already I asked him to pass him since he had already 165: Helped hisself pass Interviewer: Alright and if you decide not to eat something you might say well I don't 165: #1 want # Interviewer: #2 {X} # I don't. 165: I don't care for that. Interviewer: Okay. And if the food has been cooked And then served a second time you might say it's been 165: Leftover. Interviewer: Okay and if it you uh you uh put it on the stove a second time you'd say well this been 165: been warmed. Interviewer: Okay. And if you put food in your mouth you begin to 165: Chew. Interviewer: And um Well let's talk about the garden a little bit you say I grow all kinds of? 165: Vegetables. Interviewer: And uh They're out uh Well just tell me the the different I don't think we put did we talk about the different kinds of {X} 165: No. Interviewer: Okay tell me about the different kinds of vegetables that are in the garden. 165: What a plant's name mean? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: ah plant butterbeans and Interviewer: What other kinds of beans? Are butter beans those green ones or are they all kinds? 165: They're green ones. Little green ones snap beans {X} {X} Collard greens. And turnips. I didn't I didn't plant no eggplants this year. I should have. Interviewer: Okay. Uh What about the typical southern food that you think about having the {D: eggs in the morning} White and having the bowl with butter. 165: {X} I cook the grits every morning Interviewer: Okay. 165: And Grits {X} and Billy one piece of toast with grits. and bacon. and egg. Coffee most of them drink coffee. {X} They'll drink orange juice instead. Interviewer: Mm. And uh what about uh a dish that was made from the whole grains of corn? Ruth and I we 165: #1 {D: that something} # Interviewer: #2 generally think # What? 165: {X} Interviewer: yeah do you ever fix that? 165: No. Interviewer: Did you used to? 165: No. {NW} {X} I love it though. {NW} Interviewer: #1 yeah? # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Did your mother fix it? 165: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 Where'd you have it? # 165: {X} Interviewer: You like it you get it canned? 165: I like that she cooked {X} Friend up the street {X} cooked some every year {X} She cooked it {D: good and} {X} Interviewer: She made it all the way herself? 165: {D: yeah. That's a lot of} {X} Interviewer: Okay. And what about uh uh a grain that you generally thing about being raised down in Louisiana it's uh {NS} Um. They use it for uh food all the time and its white in little grains and. 165: Rice. Interviewer: And uh What about uh Uh homemade Or a homebrewed some kind of alcoholic beverages or homemade beer what kind of things like that have you heard of? 165: {NW} Black beer or wines {X} Interviewer: Did you ever make wines? 165: Yes. Interviewer: yeah? And that one that you think about being made out in a still out in the woods is a? What do they call that? It's illegal. 165: Whiskey. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 Uh # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 Moonshine. # Interviewer: Uh huh any other words you've heard besides moonshine? 165: No I haven't heard nothing. moonshine {X} Interviewer: You ever hear it called rotgut? Somebody the other day told me 165: {X} The stuff they make it out of be uh The stuff had a rot or do something to them Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {D: naked} # {X} Interviewer: Okay. And if something is cooking and um And it makes a real good impression on your nose you might say 165: #1 S- # Interviewer: #2 This this # 165: Smells good. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And uh Uh. See we talked about uh voices uh You never made maple maybe did a thing with uh juice from the maple tree did you Erica? 165: I have made mapleine syrup for us at the house Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: They bu- they buy it in maple Interviewer: A little flavoring. 165: Yes. Interviewer: But you nobody ever got the water out of the trees and 165: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 cooked it down. # 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. And if you say this is not a imitation maple syrup it's? 165: Maple syrup? Interviewer: Or if you talk about leather you might say this is not plastic 165: #1 it's leather. # Interviewer: #2 it's # Okay so the real thing if you gotta order {X} it's not imitation it's gen- 165: Genuine leather. Interviewer: Okay how's that? 165: It's genuine leather. Interviewer: Alright. And uh sugar sold retail is already put up in packages. Wholesale you might say it's sold in 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay n- uh loose or in bulk? 165: They used to sell it loose but they don't now. Interviewer: Okay. And uh do they say it in bulk how do they say that? 165: They usually just go get as much as you want in a sack. Interviewer: Mm-kay do they use a word in bulk? 165: Yes. Interviewer: How 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 say it for me. # 165: in bulk. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what did you make um with fruit if you strain the juice and cooked it 165: #1 Jelly. # Interviewer: #2 with sugar # Made what? 165: Jelly. Interviewer: And uh you on the table you usually put uh two things to season with 165: Salt and pepper. Interviewer: Okay and if there's a bowl of apples over there and a child wants one he'll say 165: {D: want an apple.} Interviewer: Mm-kay. And if you're talking about two uh two groups of boys you might say it wasn't those boys 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 it was one of # 165: Those over there. Interviewer: Okay not one of these one of 165: Those. Interviewer: Okay. And if you're pointing to a tree that's a long way off you might say it's a 165: Way down y- way down yonder that's what I say down yonder. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And if you're telling somebody to how to do something and they're not doing it right you're going to say #1 Don't do it that way do it # 165: #2 Do it # this way. Interviewer: And if um there's somebody's uh is saying something you don't understand you might say now 165: What you say? Interviewer: Okay. And you might say if a man has plenty of money He doesn't have anything to worry about but life is hard on a man 165: Poor. {NW} Interviewer: Okay. A man 165: Who poor Interviewer: Okay. And if you have a lot of peach trees you have a You say I gotta big 165: Peach orchard. Interviewer: And uh Uh i- if you see a lot of an orchard you know you might say well If somebody said is that your orchard and you say no I'm just a neighbor he's the man 165: Live there. Interviewer: Okay and who who has or who owns {X} 165: #1 Who owns that. # Interviewer: #2 that # Okay. When I was a boy uh my father was poor But next door was a boy 165: Lived good. Lived well. Interviewer: Okay. You might say his father his his fa- my father was poor but 165: He lived good. Interviewer: Okay and talking about uh his father you say my father is poor but 165: {X} rich. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And inside of a cherry the part that you don't wanna eat the little hard thing is a 165: A seed. Interviewer: Okay inside of a peach? 165: That's a seed. Interviewer: And what about the there's a kind of peach that's served the meat clings or sticks to the seed and then there's nothing that breaks off easily. 165: {X} peach that sticks to the seed. Interviewer: Which one? 165: {D: Chris} Interviewer: Okay. And uh the others are called 165: {D: less seed} Interviewer: Okay. And what's the part of the apple that you throw away? 165: The core. Interviewer: And uh uh did you ever cut up apples or peaches and dry them? 165: Yessum. Interviewer: What did you call that? 165: Dried apples and dried peaches. Interviewer: You never heard them called uh snitz? 165: No. Interviewer: yeah I don't think that much is used around here but I've heard of that one. Um. Okay what are the kinds of uh nuts that you have around here? Mostly? 165: Pecans {D: picker nuts or something} Interviewer: Mm-kay. And uh of course the big money crop is 165: Pecans. Interviewer: Uh bigger than the ones you dig up and uh you have the Carter's have the {X} underground they grow underground? {C: car passing} {NS} 165: Nuts peanuts? {C: car passing} Interviewer: Okay. And what about one you just see a tree around occasionally and it has a soft hull outside and a hard hard inside and if you break them open you stain your hands badly. Remember one like that? 165: No. Interviewer: Um. A uh Uh walnuts? 165: Mm. Interviewer: yeah did you have them? 165: {X} There's some I think I see the tree up to around Interviewer: A what kind now? 165: Walnuts. Interviewer: Okay. You don't have them very much though. 165: No. Interviewer: Alright what about another that you think that's long and flat shaped and uh It has a real thin shell and you use them in cooking but you have to buy them. They blanch them sometimes slice them up real thin? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. Almonds you ever buy almonds? 165: No. Interviewer: No? Okay. And if the kind of fruit that they Florida's famous for is The most famous Florida fruit that gets is 165: {X} Interviewer: yeah but even more common than tha- 165: {D: oh} Mangoes. Interviewer: Uh yeah but l- it's a citrus fruit too you talk about you have it in juice sometimes. Maybe they don't drink coffee 165: #1 Oranges. Oranges. # Interviewer: #2 they want a glass, what? # Okay. And if you have a bowl of oranges and one day you go to get one and they're all gone you might say well the oranges are 165: Gone. Interviewer: They're all 165: Gone. Interviewer: All 165: #1 All gone. # Interviewer: #2 How'd you say? # Okay. And uh the little red red vegetable that you have in the garden It's peppery and kinda hot 165: {X} Radishes. Interviewer: And uh those they're really a fruit big and round and red. Juicy and you slice them {D: X a vegetable} 165: Those are tomatoes. Interviewer: to you ever hear of any little ones real small ones? 165: {X} No but I know a lady do had a lot of them {X} Interviewer: #1 What'd she call them? # 165: #2 Every year. # Interviewer: You know what they call them? 165: No. Interviewer: You ever uh 165: #1 They # Interviewer: #2 heard of # 165: They just volunteer e- every year there. Interviewer: Uh huh. 165: She had them Interviewer: Where'd they grow? 165: up Beside the fence. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Y-you know {D: called them} Tommy toes? Or? 165: I don't know what she called them I just {D: see her} Interviewer: Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: And uh along with {D: meech} you might have uh baked Or another vegetable that grows underground 165: Potatoes. Interviewer: Okay what different kinds of potatoes did you have? 165: White potatoes and yam. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Did you pretty much call those that are sweeter did you call them 165: #1 yams. # Interviewer: #2 yams? # More than you did sweet potatoes? 165: That's the same thing. Interviewer: Okay. But you alway always say yams? 165: Sweet potato what I said. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about one that's still grows underground and it has a real strong odor and it makes tears come to your eyes some 165: #1 Onions. # Interviewer: #2 times? # What? 165: Onions. Interviewer: Okay did you have different kinds of them? 165: yeah. Interviewer: What kinds of 165: {X} Red onions. Interviewer: {D: Which ones were shawed} How'd they look like? 165: {D: Big} {X} Top of them eat them both. Interviewer: #1 Oh you'd eat the tops of them? # 165: #2 {X} # {X} {X} mostly get that {D: bone} Interviewer: Okay. And if you leave uh 165: Alright. Interviewer: Apple or plum around it would dry up and You might say the skin of that dry apple was all? 165: {NW} Dried up. Interviewer: {NW} 165: Sh- Shriveled up. Interviewer: How? 165: Shriveled up. Interviewer: Okay. And the kind of vegetables that come in big leafy heads are 165: Cabbage? Interviewer: Okay. and uh Uh another leafy vegetable you might have is {NS} Okay one that you put in salads? 165: Turnips. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Might chop up uh with tomatoes 165: #1 Lettuce. # Interviewer: #2 and # Okay. And uh leafy one that you might put with tomatoes and make a salad would be a? 165: #1 Lettuce. # Interviewer: #2 L- lettuce # Lettuce? Okay and how would you raise that you might talk about Would you have bunches of lettuce or Like you said head of cabbage right? 165: {X} {X} Interviewer: Okay. 165: #1 {D: They'd have} # Interviewer: #2 They didn't have # 165: pull a little Interviewer: #1 Oh. # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay then you didn't say heads of lettuce? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. You getting tired? {NW} Wanna stop awhile? 165: No let's go. Interviewer: Okay. 165: That a Interviewer: Alright did you ever use heads to refer to children? Like I got four or five or six or eight head of children did you ever hear that used that way? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Head? 165: Yes. Interviewer: What about passels? I mean a whole large numbers or something. 165: Don't know much that. Interviewer: Never had that one okay. That's the word my grandfather would use for big {X} 165: {NW} Interviewer: Passel of children so he would say. Okay and um The corn that you might just raise in the gardens to distinguish it from field corn is 165: There's the sweet corn and yellow corn. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of mutton corn? 165: No. Interviewer: Oh. Um. {NS} A large round fruit that grows on the ground you make pie out of at Thanksgiving? 165: Pumpkin. Interviewer: And uh the little yellow crook neck vegetables 165: Squash. Interviewer: Did you have different kinds of that? What kind? 165: I don't know what the name of them is. Different color and be red Some round ones and {X} Interviewer: Okay. 165: And some of them were yellow. Interviewer: And uh. What about melon? 165: {X} Interviewer: Different kinds 165: #1 Different kinds. # Interviewer: #2 of melon? # And uh. Uh. The kind uh not the red one but the kinda kind that is 165: #1 Yellow. # Interviewer: #2 is yellow? # 165: {D: Yellow} Interviewer: What'd you call that one? 165: {X} think they called it. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And uh another kind that's just more like a little ball like this Uh. Did you ever have mushmelon or? 165: Yes. Interviewer: #1 Did you call it # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Cantaloupe 165: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 too? # Cantaloupe? 165: Just mushmelon. Cantaloupe. Interviewer: Okay. And what about something that comes up in the woods or the fields after a rain? Little bitty umbrella 165: #1 Mushrooms. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay did you ever eat uh have one them that you'd eat? 165: No. Interviewer: You heard of them though? 165: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay. Um. Uh. They uh Sometimes uh call them mushrooms. 165: Yes. {X} Interviewer: But y'all didn't raise any. 165: No. {X} Interviewer: You ever buy them in cans? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. And uh. If a man has a sore throat And the inside of his throat is so swollen And he maybe put food in his mouth but he couldn't 165: Swallow. Interviewer: And uh what do people smoke? 165: Cigarettes. Interviewer: And 165: Pipes. Interviewer: Okay. And that one that's not white but long and brown? 165: #1 Cigars. # Interviewer: #2 Not # Okay. And a lot of people at a party having a good time you might say they were standing around a singing and a laughing 165: And talking. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if uh somebody offers to do you a favor And you say well I appreciate it but I don't wanna be 165: Bothered. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. And uh maybe somebody wanted to give some give a man a coat Because he was cold. But he wouldn't accept it because he said he didn't wanna be 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 to anybody # 165: Charity. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What about beholden? or obligated? 165: yeah. They don't wanna be obligated to you. Interviewer: Okay. If somebody asks you about doing a certain job you might say well sure I can I can do it. 165: {D: I can do it.} Interviewer: How? 165: Sure I can do it. Interviewer: Alright if somebody says can you? You might say no I? 165: Can't. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 Can't do that. # Interviewer: If somebody asks you um to do some work and it's right about sundown you might say you've maybe been working so well I got up to work before sun up and I 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 all I'm going to do today # I've 165: I'm tired out I've done all the work today. Interviewer: Okay. If you're talking about Your family you might say well Most of them uh older people most of them are not living anymore they're 165: Not {X} gone on. Interviewer: Alright. And uh there was a wreck and there was a person in it you might say well There was no use to calling a doctor because the victim by the time we got there he was 165: wasn't any good. Interviewer: He was what? 165: Dead. Interviewer: Alright. And uh. Uh and talking about how you think the corn usually might be at this time you might say Well it's not as tall as it 165: Not as tall as it should be but it's got pretty good little {X} Interviewer: Alright. And uh Maybe sometimes children sort of try to get each other to do things they won't do themselves like maybe I I am I dare you to go through the graveyard at night but I bet you 165: Won't go. Interviewer: Won't {X} 165: You won't go near it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Alright and um If you're uh You knew when you uh If uh children again are talking about doing something that maybe was not uh they thought their parents wouldn't approve of and one of them might say well uh you maybe gonna do the wrong thing you are not going to do what you blank to do you're not going to do what you 165: Want. Interviewer: What you 165: Wanna do Interviewer: Okay are uh uh Should another way of saying you know that's not what you 165: Should do. Interviewer: Are all 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. Uh and if a you say No to this somebody says will you do it you say no I 165: I won't do it. Interviewer: And uh. If you had to do some real hard work all by yourself. And let's say the girls were standing around and didn't help You might you could say well you at least you 165: Could help. Interviewer: Okay or you uh {NW} You might've helped me How would you say that? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: Uh might have 165: Yes. Interviewer: How say that. 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 At least # 165: At least you might have helped. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Suggesting Just the possibility of being able to do something you might say Well I'm not sure but I 165: I've tried. Interviewer: Okay and if you wanna say um Uh The the possibility and there I I'm not sure but uh I m- might {X} 165: I might do it. I'll try. Interviewer: Okay. What's the kind of bird that can see in the dark? 165: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # What do you talk about hearing at night that makes a little 165: #1 Owl. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # What? 165: Owl. Interviewer: Okay what about one that makes a little bitty sound? Do you know about different kinds of owls? You ever heard of a screech owl or screech owl? 165: Screech owl. Interviewer: #1 How? # 165: #2 {X} # Yes. Interviewer: How'd you call them? 165: Screech owl. Interviewer: Okay. And if he's bigger and goes ooh you might say 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 that's # What? 165: {X} Interviewer: And the kind of bird that drills holes in trees? 165: Woodpecker. Interviewer: And did you ever hear that swapped around and called them peckerwood? 165: Pecker. Interviewer: What what's uh Just talking about the bird? 165: yeah. Interviewer: Did you ever hear people refer to it as peckerwood? 165: No. Interviewer: Um. And what about uh a black and white animal that has a real strong smell? 165: Oh Uh Skunk. Interviewer: Okay. And what about all the small animals that might get into the chickens that they are predators You might say Well we have to fasten the chickens up at night so the what won't get them? 165: Um. Possum gets them. Interviewer: Okay but maybe possums and different kinds of rats 165: #1 Manx # Interviewer: #2 {D: or all kinds} # What? 165: A manx can get them too. Interviewer: Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: #1 What? # 165: #2 {X} # You gotta keep the manx out the chicken coop too. Interviewer: Are there any of them around here? 165: Yes they used to be I ain't have no chickens in a long time. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Have you What about you say there's something that getting into the chickens every night Imma get me a gun and some traps and stalk those 165: pole cats Interviewer: Okay. Uh uh 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Did you ever hear the # Did you ever hear the word varmints about All different kinds of little animals 165: Yes. Interviewer: How was how'd they say that? 165: Varmints. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. And what did it mean then it just Uh. 165: I guess it meant the pa- {X} um possum things that's coming up Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh {NS} What about the different kinds of squirrels? That you had around? 165: I don't know much about them {X} around big squirrels. Uh he used to kill squirrels and bring squirrels home and we had fried squirrels squirrel stew. Interviewer: Sure. Did you ever hear a squirrel called a boomer? 165: No. Interviewer: That may be more like a mountain {X} What about different colored ones? Are there different colored ones around? 165: All I'd seen was gray kinda like {D: brown streaks} Interviewer: Okay what about a little animal that maybe runs around more on the ground looks a little like squirrel but a lot smaller. 165: I don't know I seen them. But I don't know about them. Interviewer: Um. You never did hear something called a ground squirrel? 165: Y- yes. Interviewer: #1 Ground squirrel? # 165: #2 My yes yes # Interviewer: What about chipmunk? You ever hear chip- 165: A little bit but I ain't seen much of that. Interviewer: Okay. J- uh Ever hear anything called a A pocket gopher or a Ground gopher? 165: No. Interviewer: No? Okay. And uh Talk about the the fish what about a uh uh uh a fi- uh a shell? A sea animal. That pearls sometimes supposed grow in. 165: I don't know nothing about it. Interviewer: Nothing about oysters did you ever cook oysters? 165: Yessum I cooked oysters. We shelled 'em. Interviewer: yeah how'd you fix them? 165: Fry 'em make stew too. Interviewer: yeah. And if you made stew you said it was what kind of stew? 165: Oyster stew. Interviewer: Uh huh. And what about the the things that uh around the water that croak and carry on? Hop around? 165: Frogs? Interviewer: Uh huh what different kinds of frogs? 165: #1 Uh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 165: I don't know about different kinds of frogs. Interviewer: What about the great big ones? 165: I don't know. Interviewer: The nobody ever had uh ever killed them and had frog legs? 165: No not I didn't fix none they told us about that when I lived in Florida. We went down there {X} and they was talking about frog legs and brown snakes {D: They'd head down there} I didn't care none about that Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 165: #2 {D: cuz they'd} # Interviewer: Okay. And you don't know about a little kind of uh a little bitty green one then? 165: Yessum I {X} I see them they out there. round My tomato bunch now. Interviewer: yeah but you don't have any special name for them? 165: No they just say green ones. Interviewer: #1 Oh # 165: #2 green frog. # Interviewer: Okay. And uh. What about uh uh Do you call them toads or toad frogs? 165: {X} called toad frogs but I don't know one. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what was the thing that they used to dig uh uh {D: a for-something} or crawled around and went and or into the If you raised up a rock or something you found. 165: Baits. Interviewer: yeah. What? 165: {NW} {X} Baits all I know. Interviewer: Okay you don't know any different kinds of words? 165: No. Interviewer: Uh okay what about the hard shell thing that's supposed to pull its legs and its 165: #1 That's uh # Interviewer: #2 head? # 165: Turtle. Interviewer: Okay. And uh What about uh Does that one go in the water or is it just on 165: I think they stay around the water. Interviewer: Okay you ever hear them called terrapin or {D: gopher something} 165: I heard talk of them but I Interviewer: You just say turtle? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Okay what about something that you find in maybe little streams or creeks and they're supposed to swim uh uh uh or crawl backwards Little claws? Know about one like that? 165: No. Interviewer: Uh crawfish or crawdad or 165: {D: craw fry} Uh little type of crawfish I seen the starfish {X} Interviewer: yeah that's an ocean one isn't it? 165: Yessum Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 165: #2 I think this one is one that's maybe around streams. # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And um Another kind this is an ocean one like where they have oysters and everything and serve {D: something like this} and this little thin shell you ever cook or {X} 165: No. Interviewer: Uh. But you heard of shrimp? 165: Shrimp yes I've heard Interviewer: What about an insect that flies around a light a lot? Flutters up to the light. 165: Little green ones? The green bugs {X} Interviewer: yeah and sometimes I think they're uh grayish powder comes off when you 165: yeah. Camel fly. Interviewer: Okay. And what about an insect that's supposed to get in well it does get in wool cloth and eat holes. 165: Moths. Interviewer: Okay. And maybe there's just one and you'd say there's a 165: Moth hole. Interviewer: Alright. And uh a bug that has a light in its tail at night #1 The kids'll # 165: #2 Lightning bug. # Interviewer: Okay. And uh What about a long thin bodied uh insect that uh has two pairs of wings on it it's supposed to be around swampy old water little puddles they say something about used to eat uh mosquitoes You'd say they're around snakes sometimes. You ever hear of a dragonfly or? 165: No. Interviewer: A snake feeder snake doctor? 165: Yes {D: and my little} snake doctors. Interviewer: Okay. And what other kinds of stinging bugs or insects are around? 165: Uh wasp you mean? Interviewer: Right. 165: Yellow jackets. Interviewer: Okay. What about What about one that um that um makes uh a nest a big paper bag looking nest? 165: That's a wasp. Interviewer: Okay. Is there one that's even bigger about the size of a football? 165: Yellow jacket {X} Interviewer: Okay do they have any hornets around here? 165: Yessum in the woods out there where they work at. {X} Interviewer: Okay. And ones the little tiny ones that uh carry malaria they're supposed to be around the water the mosquitoes? How do you say that? 165: I don't know of any. Interviewer: Mosquitoes you know they're always 165: Oh yessum mosquito. Interviewer: And what about the little teeny ones that uh burrow down in your skin and they're out in the fields and uh They uh Uh if you walk in the woods without you may get them on your legs or 165: Um. {X} Interviewer: Okay. And what about the ones some green and some brown that hop around in the grass in the summer? They hop you know. You seem them from the corn sometimes. 165: Like a frog? Interviewer: Uh but this is an insect a bug. Grass? 165: Hopper. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Did you ever hear them called hopper grass? 165: Yessum grasshopper and hopper grass they'd call 'em backwards {X} That's right. Interviewer: Okay. And uh You said you didn't do much fishing what about uh a little bitty fish that's used for bait? Minnows? You 165: yeah heard them talk about minnows. {X} Interviewer: And what's this uh Uh something a little thin uh thread like thing you may find across the path when you walk down to the garden or sometimes you find them in the corner of the room? You have to sweep them down with a broom or something. 165: Spiders. Interviewer: And what do you call the thing that they leave? 165: Webs. Interviewer: Okay. And a tree down in the ground puts out? Uh what's the part of the tree that goes down in the ground? 165: Roots. Interviewer: And um. Uh. Did we say you had maple trees around here? 165: I don't know. But I think so but I don't know. Interviewer: Okay. And what about a kind of a tree That has uh broad leaves and they pretty much shed all at one time the bark peels off and it has little balls on it sometimes. Real tough wood they use it for chopping blocks. 165: Uh. Interviewer: Sica- 165: Sycamore. Interviewer: Have you had what's that one? 165: Sycamore. Interviewer: Okay and Any other trees you think of that might be around? Of course you have the pines pretty much around here. 165: Yes and then oak tree. Interviewer: Okay. That's the one that made the best wood? 165: Yes. Interviewer: Alright and uh what was that story George Washington could never tell a lie he was supposed to cut down 165: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 the # What was that one? 165: {NW} {NW} {X} Interviewer: {X} a cherry tree wasn't it? 165: They said George Washington never told a lie the biggest lie right then he ever told. Interviewer: {NW} {D: You never talked about something} 165: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} You heard those stories about it 165: {NW} Interviewer: You hated his expense account? 165: Yes. Interviewer: yeah 165: #1 I heard the story. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # That's kind of a surprise to me. Okay what about a shrub doesn't get too big just kind of a bush out in the fields. And um The leaves get real- very red in the fall. and they grub 'em up sometimes 165: Out in the field? Interviewer: Yes or along with the road. It's a the they don't want it the farmers don't want it some and they have a sort of sticky gummy stuff around on those little berries or 165: Oh. Uh. Interviewer: S- #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What? Well I'm thinking about one that's like {X} or something like that. 165: #1 I don't know about that one. # Interviewer: #2 don't know about that one. # 165: {X} Interviewer: That's a that's a nuisance 165: Yes. Interviewer: Okay we talked about poison oak poison ivy tell me about the different kinds of berries you might have around here. 165: Oh blackberries strawberries raspberries Interviewer: Any that are poisonous? 165: None of that Interviewer: yeah. Did you ever uh ever see pope one called pope berry 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 around here? # 165: Yes. Interviewer: yeah and you use the leaves of that 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 don't you? # 165: {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh what about a A shrub that has a very beautiful bloom pink and white flowers I think they originally came from the mountains. They bloom late in the spring. Uh laurel any laurel around here? A rhododendron? {X} 165: {X} Interviewer: No? Okay. And the the big um of course the big flowering tree with the big white blooms are? Typical of uh the south. The big glossy leaves. The magna- 165: Magnolia. Interviewer: Alright. 165: {X} Interviewer: They're real pretty {X} 165: {X} planted five or six trees about Twenty years ago me and Mayberry both said I'll never live to seem 'em blooming and they haven't bloomed yet. Interviewer: Oh really they grow real slowly huh? 165: I don't think they're the blooming kind they all don't bloom in this town. Interviewer: #1 Oh. # 165: #2 We just # We just {X} this time of year {X} wall of flower. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. And uh if uh If a married woman doesn't want to make up her own mind she might say well I don't know I better ask my {X} might not of asked decide for herself she might say well I'll ask my 165: husband {X} Interviewer: Okay. And any other ways you say old folks might say that She might say well I'm gonna ask 165: I'd love to see what so and so says Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Any other sort of nicknames instead of saying the husband she might say? 165: yeah cuz my momma called my daddy boy {NW} Interviewer: Boy? 165: Boy. Interviewer: {NW} What does she call that a nickname 165: #1 that was # Interviewer: #2 or # 165: his nickname. {X} Interviewer: yeah. 165: Called her sis. Interviewer: Okay. And the man might say well I don't know I must ask my 165: Wife. Interviewer: Okay. And a woman who has lost her husband is called a 165: Widow. Interviewer: And uh. If a woman whose whose husband is dead and a woman whose husband has just left her you have a different word to say that has widow in it. 165: Yes Interviewer: #1 How? # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 How would you say that? # 165: #2 {NW} # {X} grass- {NW} Interviewer: #1 Grass widow well have you got another way of saying that have you ever heard of a sod widow? # 165: #2 {NW} # No but they always say she's a grass widow. Interviewer: She's a grass widow that means her husband just 165: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 left her. # Well somewhere here somebody told me that {X} she's either a grass widow or a sod widow 165: Well I reckon it Interviewer: {D: cuz he's something the sod} {NW} I thought that was interesting. Okay and and your mother's husband is your 165: My father. Interviewer: Uh huh and uh And what did you call your father? 165: Dad, papa Interviewer: Okay. Any other ways what did your children call your husband? The same? 165: Dad. Interviewer: Okay. Any other ways what about the grandchildren? Call their father? 165: They called him Daddy Interviewer: Okay. 165: That That's latest style {X} you know long time ago the pop Interviewer: Right and uh his wife was your mother you said your mother? What did you your father's wife was your 165: Grandma. Interviewer: Okay and uh uh the children your children called you 165: B- All my grandchildren call me big momma I don't like grandma Interviewer: Uh huh and what do they call their mother? 165: Ma m- call them momma. Interviewer: Okay. And your mother and father together are called your? Pare- 165: Call them parents. Interviewer: Okay and uh Your father's father you call your 165: Grandpa. Interviewer: Okay any uh affection sort of joking ways you remember folks calling their grandfather? Did they say uh like big momma did they say Did they say big daddy or 165: No. Interviewer: What'd they call him? 165: {X} I don't know much about my granddad. Interviewer: I see. 165: He was dead before I was {X} don't know a thing about him. Interviewer: I see. 165: But my grand dad parents on my mama's side Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: And my grandpapa On my daddy's side he didn't live I I did know them but he didn't live long. Interviewer: Okay. 165: But I did never know my grandmama on my mama's side Interviewer: I see. What did your children your children call your father? Did they call him grandpa? 165: They didn't have to call him cuz he was dead before they were born. Interviewer: Oh yes. 165: yeah he died before I had any children. {NS: phone rings} Interviewer: And um Your grandchildren call you big momma? 165: Everybody in Plains call me big momma {X} Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Well now they told me Ms. # 165: #2 {X} # {B} Well I mean the children all of them almost all the children call me their big momma. Interviewer: Uh huh. 165: #1 Well and # Interviewer: #2 {D: They going they go by gone this something} # 165: Hey big momma hey big momma Interviewer: I'll say. Okay well now uh {NW} What your grandchildren called your husband what did they? 165: called him daddy Interviewer: Just daddy? Okay. 165: But he died. My grandchildren you mean. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: Mm oh. He died before they was they was very little. Interviewer: Sure. Okay. And um. Your sons and daughters together are called your you say this these are all my 165: Daughters. Interviewer: #1 He was their sons and daughters # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: You just say these are 165: My children. Interviewer: And uh uh A little something with wheels on it you put a baby in you call a 165: A carriage. Interviewer: Okay and when you take the baby out to in it you say your going to do what to it? 165: Took to them to the carriage. Interviewer: Put the baby in the carriage 165: #1 Y- # Interviewer: #2 And go out and # 165: Yep. {X} Interviewer: Okay. 165: Quiet him. Interviewer: And uh. Talking about your boys uh Which one was the oldest? How would you say that he was which one 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {D: of my boys} # 165: Richard the oldest. Interviewer: He's the what? 165: Richard is t- Richard is my oldest boy. Interviewer: Okay and what about maybe not just of his age but maybe the one who always seemed most uh responsible was that Richard too or one of the others? 165: oh that's my baby boy. Interviewer: Is that right and how would you say that he's my most what? How would you describe him? 165: Well I don't know somehow or other they think I sent him on to school. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 165: #2 {NW} # Well the rest didn't wanna go you see how that is. Interviewer: #1 Sure. # 165: #2 {X} # And he wanted to go. And he tried to work to help hisself though and so. Interviewer: Where'd he go? 165: He went to high school. finish high school. {X} Left. Went to Brooklyn. {X} Didn't come back until the {X} {NS} doctor and dentist working. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: He done that hisself {X} {X} Interviewer: And is he in New York now? 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And he's working? 165: Yes he working. Interviewer: As a? In? In a hospital or 165: No he not working in a hospital. He changed jobs About five years ago. He's he say left for Tennessee took up another course and uh sent back here for his uh he lost his uh diploma he sent back for it told me to go over there to the school and get his um Interviewer: Diploma? 165: yes and recommendations from it. And they sent me to the Uh superintendent. He said he couldn't give it to me. Wherever he wanted to be working he had to have it and uh {X} They said he couldn't give it to him but he Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 tell him to go right then # {X} Be there at Monday morning he said his recommendation would be there he wasn't allowed give it out Interviewer: Sure. 165: So when got there {X} {X} Interviewer: Okay Well in talking about him how would you say that he's the the the grown up-est the most grown up {D: the most something} 165: He is my baby boy Interviewer: yeah but he's the the one that did the most 165: He {X} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: The wanted to do the what? 165: {X} Interviewer: Alright. And uh Your um Oh yes what about the way that eh if a woman is going to have a child how how would you say that? She's? 165: Pregnant? Interviewer: Okay do you remember how many that used to say that when they maybe wanted to talk a little nicer or something? Any other ways of saying that besides pregnant? Might say she's 165: See what they used to say {X} know nothing about that {D: when I'd come home.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: {X} {X} Interviewer: You mean uh when the you didn't actually know about uh uh 165: nothing about how a baby was to be born or nothing. Interviewer: Is that right? 165: #1 No I # Interviewer: #2 Even after you were married? # 165: That's right. Interviewer: Is that right? 165: {X} I didn't know. I thought calling a doctor that was just it you's {X} Interviewer: Sure. 165: Shut the door you couldn't see out of it. {X} Dad called hisself the best doctor in Plains and we let living out there on the farm Momma was and I went home you know {X} Interviewer: Sure. 165: Doctor said come out there. {X} {D: One} In uh read the paper And I was just having a fit Interviewer: #1 The the doctor read the paper? # 165: #2 {X} # Read the newspaper gave me a shot and read the paper and you know I had to do something then {NW} It was Interviewer: Mercy. What about uh a woman that maybe is not a doctor that helps out then? {NS} 165: Oh {NS} From then on I had midwives Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: I said {X} Interviewer: Sure. Well do they have any of them around now? 165: I think one or two. {X} Wait just one minute. Interviewer: {X} If you uh if you wanna ask somebody uh how many times about something you might say uh oh how do you go to town how uh {NS} What word would you put in there if you wanna know where they went? Every week or twice a week how? 165: I did it go to town once a week or Interviewer: yeah How how would you say how? 165: How often do you go to town? Interviewer: Okay. And if you're uh talking with a friend and uh uh he says uh I'm not going to do something and you agree with him that that's not a good idea you might say well you might say well I'm not gonna vote for that guy and you might say well 165: I don't vote {NW} Interviewer: #1 Alright well you were # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: yeah you might say I'm 165: #1 I I don't # Interviewer: #2 I am gonna vote # but if he says that he's not gonna vote for him and you're agreeing with him that you're not going to vote for him either you might say well me 165: #1 I'm not # Interviewer: #2 I # 165: I'm not gonna vote for him. Interviewer: yeah. And somebody else might say well me neither or me 165: Me either. Interviewer: Okay. Uh And uh This part of your uh face is your 165: Forehead. {NS} Interviewer: And uh if you go to the man goes to uh uh the barber you might say he wants to get his 165: Hair cut. Interviewer: Or if he doesn't 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 shave # Huh? 165: A shave. Interviewer: Uh-huh and if he doesn't shave around here he's growing a 165: Beard. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If you're if somebody is uh hunting for the pencil and they've got it sticking up here you might say its well its right behi- 165: #1 right # Interviewer: #2 right # 165: behind your ear Interviewer: Okay and if he he you wanna tell him it's the one on this side you say it's your? 165: Right or your left. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If somebody is mumbling one of the children maybe and you can't understand what they're saying you might say well take that chewing gum out of your 165: Mouth and I can understand what you said. Interviewer: Alright. And uh if uh baby starts coughing when he's uh eating or something you might say he's got a uh look he's got a chicken bone stuck in his? 165: Throat. Interviewer: Okay. And this whole part of your body you call your? 165: Neck. Interviewer: And uh what about this little part right here? 165: I call it the goose. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And that's just that little thing 165: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 right there? # Okay. And if you go to the dentist you want him to look at your? 165: Teeth. Interviewer: Okay and how's that? 165: {D: Go and look at your teeth} Interviewer: And uh if one has a cavity and you say I'll have to fill that. 165: Fill it up {X} Interviewer: K. And they're all teeth and one is a? This one 165: Teeth. Interviewer: yeah. Okay uh You might say uh I think this {X} is hurting then 165: {X} Interviewer: The front what? 165: #1 Teeth biggest front teeth here # Interviewer: #2 The front # Okay. And what do you call the uh uh the place up around the teeth? 165: Gums. Interviewer: And uh you might say to somebody look at that uh that baby bird it's so small you could hold it in the of your hand. 165: In your hand. Interviewer: In the what? 165: Palm of your hand. Interviewer: How's that? 165: Palm. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 of your hand. # Interviewer: And if uh somebody got mad and he did this he doubled up both {NS} 165: Fists. Interviewer: Okay or he just took one and did it like this you might say well {X} Uh you might say he shook his 165: Fists. Interviewer: Alright. And uh any place uh where you bend your finger or your arm are called the 165: It's called your elbow. Interviewer: Okay but what do you call all of those like 165: Knees Interviewer: yeah but the places where they join together you say have you got 165: Joints. Interviewer: Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: {X} Uh and the upper part of a man's body is called his? 165: That that's his chest across there Interviewer: Uh and if he's real strong you might say he has really broad? 165: Shoulders. Interviewer: And uh You may uh uh Do you remember they talked about the height of a horse they would didn't say the horse isn't so many feet high but so many 165: Inches? Interviewer: Uh well apparently they use this what do you call this? These are your two These are your two? 165: Hands. Interviewer: Okay and this is your? And this is your? 165: Right and left. Interviewer: Okay that was what I was asking about sometimes apparently they measured horses' height in hands They say he's sixteen hands high or something like that. Okay. Um. Uh {NS} And uh You might say well this part of the body is the 165: Your leg and your thigh Interviewer: And uh 165: #1 foot. # Interviewer: #2 they # 165: #1 Ankle. # Interviewer: #2 your # And one is a foot and two are your? 165: Ankle. {X} Interviewer: And you say well both my 165: Feet. Interviewer: Okay. And uh How was that? 165: Both my feet. {NW} Interviewer: And uh {X} What about this part of your leg right here if you stumble and fall and bruise yourself right here you say I hurt my 165: lay right on the shank Interviewer: Okay. That's the front part of the leg right about 165: yeah. Interviewer: And uh What about this part of your thighs right here if you're you're squatting down you say I'm squatting down on my? 165: Hips {NW} Interviewer: Okay. Uh Any other way that you talk about squatting down maybe to pick vegetables in the garden or anything? or pull weeds how would you say if somebody's trying to bend over you might say well get down on 165: On your knees. Interviewer: Okay. Uh would you ever use uh Hunker down to do something? or to squat like to squat down no? 165: Yes You say squat down. Interviewer: And if somebody's been sick awhile but he's up now but he still looks you might say well he still looks a little bit 165: Pale to me. Interviewer: Okay. Any other way of saying pale? 165: No they look like he still sick. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If somebody who can lift really large loads you might say my If you can lift something uh big heavy sack of grain or something you might say he's really 165: Strong. Interviewer: Okay and somebody who's very easy to get along with is you might say he's very 165: I like him because he's easy to get along with. Interviewer: Okay. Uh And what about somebody who just maybe a boy in his teens is just real maybe always falling over his feet how would you say he's so? 165: Clumsy. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody Is always doing something that doesn't make sense you might say about him oh that 165: That boy is awful. Interviewer: Okay. yeah well just a word for him he's a real 165: Bad boy. Interviewer: Okay. And what about somebody who just won't spend any money at all. What would you call him? 165: He gets stingy. Interviewer: Okay. Ever use tightwad another word tightwad for somebody {X} just stingy? Um What about uh If you can if somebody asks about something that's is just can be found anywhere you say well that's real 165: Easy to find look behind you it's easy I say {X} Interviewer: Okay. 165: Table there. Interviewer: Okay and something that's not unusual at all is very c- very common? do you say common? 165: Common yes. Interviewer: Do you ever use that about a person? Would you ever use she's a real common person or he's a real common person? 165: Yes sometimes. Interviewer: And does that mean that {NW} that they're just plain every day folks 165: Yes and the same thing everyday. Interviewer: Okay. In other words it's it's complimentary it doesn't mean that they're trashy or anything like that? 165: No. Interviewer: Just if you say she's just somebody enjoyed just everyday they're 165: The same thing everyday. Interviewer: Okay. Uh Alright if uh If there's uh uh uh A man let's say approaching a hundred or some such but he's still very active and doesn't show his age and still likes uh is interested in everything how would you? Interviewer: Okay. An older person who is very active and interested in everything you might say well he's still very? 165: Active in his age. Interviewer: Okay any other uh ways of saying that? to spry? 165: He's smart and spry. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Uh what about uh how would you uh what word would you use to describe children that are just busy all the time and interested in everything and always excited about life what would you say about them? 165: {X} That child there is loves to play. Interviewer: Okay uh. If uh if the children are out later than usual and maybe you're a little bit worried you might say well I feel a little bit? 165: I feel worried about 'em. Interviewer: Okay. Uh would you use easy that way? It'd be easy on your mind about something or I might say I'm a little bit 165: Word look like I'd hear something Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay. # 165: #2 {X} # You're gonna get cold or something Interviewer: #1 Do you ever use uneasy? # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: to mean when you worry about something? 165: I just say I'm worried. Interviewer: Okay. Oh What would somebody say if they they they don't wanna go upstairs in the dark? 165: #1 I ain't # Interviewer: #2 Um. # 165: going up there in that dark. Interviewer: I'm a 165: I'm afraid. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you were to say well When she was a little girl she Uh She isn't afraid now but she? 165: Was when she was little, she'd go anyway. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Maybe well say she's not a bit afraid now but when she was a little girl she was, she? 165: She was afraid when she was little, she been afraid all her life. Interviewer: Uh-huh. She uh uh she used to be afraid but she's oh you said she used to be? 165: She used to be afraid but she ain't now she'll go anywhere. {NW} {X} Interviewer: Okay how would you talking about maybe an older person you might say nothing really wrong with Aunt Lizzy but sometimes she acts kind of? 165: She act kind of silly. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Any other ways you might say that? 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Just # 165: She's always been mean Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Any other word kind of like silly that you might use? Uh when you just you know she's likely to do one thing 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Would you use queer to talk about uh If she di- if you don't know what she's going to do. What what does the word uh uh queer mean? Uh the the younger people now think maybe use it to mean like homosexual do you know what uh to mean silly or uh. 165: {X} acting silly. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But you've never used the word queer? 165: Uh no I wouldn't cuz I hadn't thought of it. Interviewer: You hadn't 165: #1 {D: Yea no} # Interviewer: #2 thought of that word. # Alright you ever hear the younger kids use it? 165: No they hear them say everything Interviewer: Yeah. 165: you don't know Interviewer: Uh Okay. 165: Anything. Interviewer: Okay w- have you ever heard some of them talk about oh Mr. so and so well he's a queer. 165: I hear {X} say uh Mr. so and so is a mean man or Interviewer: Okay. Okay. What about if um If you're talking about a man who's so sure of his own ways and he never wants to change he doesn't want to change his mind or anything. You might say to him well don't be so 165: Don't be so sure you're right all the time. Interviewer: Okay. What about a word like uh ornery or? pigheaded or bullheaded or muleheaded you ever say anything like that to mean that? 165: {NW} You say he's a A pighead man he's pigheaded. Interviewer: Okay. Uh what about somebody that you can't joke with um because he might lose his temper all the time. you might say you can't joke with him he's mighty 165: Easy to get mad. Interviewer: uh And you might say well I was just kidding with you I didn't know you'd get uh? 165: Mad. Interviewer: And if somebody's about to lose his temper you might say don't get mad just keep? Keep? 165: Keep quiet don't Interviewer: Okay what about to keep calm? Would you say that? 165: Yes. Interviewer: How would you say that? 165: You gotta keep quiet about it that's how you get you can get mad in the head. Interviewer: Uh-huh would you use calm? 165: No I'd say quiet. Interviewer: #1 Oh. # 165: #2 {D: They} # They all gone I have to shut this back door I don't want nobody Interviewer: If you've been working very hard You wanna tell somebody you're just completely 165: Tired and wore out. Interviewer: Okay. And if a person has been quite well and you hear suddenly that they have some disease or that they just went very suddenly at the hospital you might say well just last night she 165: She was talking to me just last night. Interviewer: And what happened how would you tell about her getting sick, she all a sudden she? 165: I didn't think nothing would ail her Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: But you'd never know. Interviewer: How would you if you phoned somebody you heard last night uh Mary? 165: her sick Interviewer: Okay was sick? 165: Got sick. Interviewer: Okay. Well you And uh But you wanna say well uh Uh she's right sick now but she'll be better by? 165: In a few days I think. Interviewer: Okay uh. And if a person sat in the uh uh draft and uh began to cough and sneeze and everything you might say well last night he? 165: {X} I know you were going to have a cold. Sitting out there in that {X} Interviewer: Mm-kay and uh You might say well don't uh don't stay out there and get wet you may 165: Have a cold. Interviewer: Okay. Would you uh be more likely to say take a cold or catch a cold or get a cold 165: Catch a cold. Interviewer: And if somebody's suddenly they're voice is changing because of the cold you might say well he caught a cold and it affected his voice he's? 165: Hoarse. Interviewer: And uh uh if he is always going {NW} You might say well you've got a bad? 165: Cold. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay and this right here you call a {NW} 165: A cough. Interviewer: Okay. How was that? 165: Call it a cough. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody says well I just gotta go to bed I'm feeling a little bit? 165: Bad. Interviewer: #1 Well just like you need to go to sleep. I? # 165: #2 {NW} # sleep or something. Interviewer: Okay. You could say well I'll take a little nap I'll wake up at? At six oh clock I'll 165: I may feel better. Interviewer: #1 Okay and the # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Just say you're going to sleep but you're I'll just go and tell the children. Now you slept long enough. You've got to 165: Get up. Interviewer: Okay uh. And if you tell somebody to go in there to uh to awaken someone who is asleep you might say well go in and her up now. 165: {NW} And wake 'em up. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If uh somebody's sick and the medicine's by the bed you might say well why haven't you The medicine's that they should have 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 already had # 165: took your own medicine. right out your hand. Interviewer: Okay. And the patient might answer and say well yesterday I? 165: Taken it. Interviewer: Okay and I'll some more later I'll what? some more later? 165: Taken it. Interviewer: Okay I don't wanna take it right now I'll 165: Take it later Interviewer: Okay. And if you can't hear anything you might say well I'm just completely stone 165: deaf right in head Interviewer: Okay uh. And if he's not quite all the way deaf you might say well he's just a little bit 165: hard of hearing Interviewer: Okay. And if someone began to to swim and he was working by the time he's finished you might say well he was out in the sun and he a lot he 165: Yeah he sweated a lot. got wet all over Interviewer: Okay. And uh what do you call a some kind of a sore that comes and has a drain in it it might have a hard place in the middle of it. Uh 165: He got some kind of itch. Interviewer: Okay but if it's just one place you know and it uh gets hard and swells up and maybe finally starts draining 165: #1 a # Interviewer: #2 Uh # 165: rising. Interviewer: Okay a rising or what about a word that begins with a b that's uh that's like a rising? 165: {NW} Interviewer: And what do you 165: Carbuncle? Interviewer: Okay. 165: I had one of them once. Interviewer: Yeah? And if a is there another word for a rising or a carbuncle? She's got a lot of 'em. D'you ever know Boil? 165: Boil yes I- Interviewer: And what when a boil opens, the stuff that drains out is called? 165: Corruption. Interviewer: Okay. And if you have an infection in your hand so that your hand got bigger than it was you might say my hand is all? 165: Swelled up. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say to somebody well if it's not infected it probably won't won't get bigger it probably won't 165: Get any bigger. Interviewer: Okay it won't s-? 165: {X} warm salty water that's good. That's what I'd say. Interviewer: Okay. And if you got a blister what do you call the liquid that forms inside of it? 165: Water. Interviewer: And in the war for example if uh a soldier gets a bullet in his arm you say he's got a? A bad? 165: Arm? Interviewer: Right and what do you call the actual place? where he has the bullet in or the uh the hurt uh If somebody got shot or stabbed you'd say we've gotta go get a doctor to look at that? 165: That's a bad cut. Interviewer: Okay uh. Do you ever use wound? 165: Wound. Interviewer: Okay. And what about if there's a wound and it doesn't heal and it gets a hard granular kind of white substance around it and sometimes it has to be cut out or burned out with oil on it some kind of You ever heard of some kind of flesh? No? You ever heard of proud flesh? 165: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: #1 Proud what is? # 165: #2 Proud flesh. # Interviewer: What is how is that? 165: {X} proud flesh they say Interviewer: Oh yeah? 165: #1 from # Interviewer: #2 From a injury or a # 165: Bad teeth you know and th- Interviewer: Okay If you just had a little cut on your finger what might you put on it to keep it from getting infected? 165: I always put curocome Interviewer: Okay. And is there another one like uh curocome that's red too 165: And iodine. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And what are the used to be given as a tonic for malaria? 165: Uh. {X} Interviewer: Why? Where or? 165: {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh. If a man was shot And he didn't recover you might say well he? last night he? 165: He died. Interviewer: Okay. Any ways that are not quite not a little bit nicer way of saying that you might say to the person's family or reverend? 165: He passed. Interviewer: Okay. And uh. What about a kind of joking term uh that for somebody to say that somebody died? A humorous way Or somebody might say about somebody they didn't like or maybe someone was real stingy or something I'm glad that old skincliff finally? 165: {NW} Died. Interviewer: Okay you- what about kick the bucket? 165: That's right. Interviewer: You've heard of kick the 165: #1 Kick # Interviewer: #2 bucket? # 165: the bucket I sure have. Interviewer: Okay and uh. If somebody died and you wanna know why you might say well I don't know what he died? 165: with but Interviewer: Okay. And uh. The place where people are buried is usually called the? 165: Cemetery. Interviewer: Okay and Are there any other words for cemetery that? 165: Graveyard. Interviewer: And what When do you use one and when do you use the other? 165: Uh Interviewer: Cemetery and graveyard? Or they about the same? 165: They're about the same it's the same. Interviewer: And the box that people are buried in is the? 165: Coffin. Interviewer: And uh. The old time ones that used to be made out of wood uh maybe that were wider and tapered towards the ankles were they called anything else? 165: That's what they called the coffin ain't it? Interviewer: Okay that's a coffin. What about the word casket? 165: Yeah that's right. Interviewer: #1 Use the # 165: #2 That's right casket. # Interviewer: Okay if you say well so and so is a very important man or everybody liked him just everybody turned out for his? 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 When he died # 165: His funeral. Interviewer: And if the family are dressed in black and are very sad or maybe just get out of control lose control when someone dies you might say they are? 165: I say they took it mighty hard. Interviewer: Okay. What about a word to describe just when they all dress in black? How do you say that they're dressed in? 165: All of them dressed in black. Interviewer: Mm-kay uh. Do you use uh the word for if they're dressed in black are uh at the- the matter of grieving for somebody do you use the word mourning? 165: Yes mourning. Interviewer: Okay. How would you use that in a sentence tell me how you'd 165: The- they're mourning all of them are dressed in black. Interviewer: Okay. And uh. If somebody says to you well uh how you doing today and you might say oh 165: Oh very well. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody's uh very troubled about something you might say oh it'll come out alright don't 165: Don't worry Interviewer: And the disease in the joints older people sometimes have is called 165: Arthritis. Interviewer: And 165: {X} Interviewer: Rheu-? 165: Rheumatism that's all the same which I have. Interviewer: Uh-huh that's bad. 165: Can't hardly get about {X} Interviewer: Okay and what about a very sore throat uh? People used to get an infection with blisters in there and it was very serious. 165: Say they had their tonsils need mostly taken out when their sore throat gets so Interviewer: #1 right. # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Well a lot of the time I think they have uh uh a shot or a vaccination now that takes care of one that uh children used to die of. 165: Diphtheria. Got a niece that dry with it Interviewer: Yeah? Now what about a disease that makes your skin look yellowish? Your eyes turn yellow? 165: Yellow jaundice? Interviewer: And if you have your appendix taken out you say well I had an attack of 165: Appendicitis. Interviewer: And if somebody ate something that didn't agree with it wouldn't stay down you'd say well he had to? 165: Uh he had indigestion. Interviewer: Okay and if the food came back up he? 165: Vomit. Interviewer: Okay and any other ways that you might say that or the children might say that? 165: She gonna {X} Interviewer: Mm-kay you what about throw up or? 165: Yes throw up. Interviewer: But you'd be more likely to say? 165: Vomit I would. Interviewer: Okay uh and you don't you don't know of a joking way to say that? 165: I can't stand vomit. {NW} Interviewer: Okay. And uh uh vomit and throw up does one word sound uh uh a little more like a politer word? 165: I think I'd rather say vomit Interviewer: Okay and uh If a person vomited you'd say he was sick 165: On the stomach. Interviewer: Okay. Sick where? 165: On the stomach. Interviewer: Okay and If you were talking about someone who was sharing a piece of news you might say well as soon as she got the news she came right over 165: And told me. Interviewer: And if you invite someone to come to see you and you wanna tell them that you'll be real disappointed if they don't come you might say now he don't come I'll? 165: I'll sure be disappointed. Interviewer: Okay and uh If uh if you're you're telling me that you and you're daughter are would uh- would both be very glad to see me you might say well we we be glad to see how would you say that? 165: I'd be glad to see you. Interviewer: Okay. What about any other word besides glad? We'll be real? 165: Proud. Interviewer: Okay. Would you use both of those? 165: Either one. Interviewer: And if a child is naughty you might say if you do that again I'll? 165: Whoop you. Interviewer: Uh If uh Would you ever say I'm gonna go and whip you or I'm gonna 165: I'm gonna whoop you. Interviewer: And how would you say Uh if a young man is very interested in a young girl how would you say that he's what her? He's? 165: He and her are mighty close together. Interviewer: Okay. Would you you- think of any old ways that they might say that uh he's talking to her he's keeping company with her or sparking or paying 'em attention any ways? 165: Uh they say he's be saying he's must be they must be fixing to get engaged {X} Interviewer: Okay. And what do they call him they say he's her? 165: Boyfriend. Interviewer: And she's his? 165: Girlfriend. Interviewer: Okay and if he comes home with lipstick on his collar his little brother might say oh you've been? 165: Kissing. Interviewer: Okay. And if they were going together and he asks her to marry him but she turns him down how would you say that? He asked her to marry him but she? 165: Turned him down. Interviewer: And if they were going together and just for no reason and for no reason at all and quite suddenly and she said no I'm not going see you anymore how would you say that she what him she? 165: She quit him {X} Interviewer: She quit him okay. And uh uh if somebody comes to see you and you didn't you thought they were just engaged but they say no we just got 165: Married. Interviewer: And at a wedding the man who stands up with the groom is the? You know a friend who stands up with him what do they? 165: have a friend uh just to be there to stand up with him Interviewer: Uh-huh. And a girl that stands up with the bride would you have a? 165: She have a friend of her Interviewer: Okay well the word uh uh the bridesmaid? 165: Yes. Interviewer: And what about the guy who stands up with the groom is he the? 165: He the Interviewer: Best man? 165: Best man. Interviewer: groomsman 165: Best man. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 The best man. # Interviewer: What about do you remember a long time ago I don't think they do it much anymore when somebody got married and went to live in their new home might have a real noisy crowd of people come and stand around outside and maybe sort of make noise and uh maybe even shoot pistols or rifles off you ever he- remember anything like this? 165: No. Interviewer: No? You ever heard of the word chivaree? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. uh And uh how would you describe uh going to the town around here like if you were in Americus yesterday you might say well I was? 165: In Americus yesterday. Interviewer: Okay well would you ever say I was uh up to or down to 165: Uptown. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 165: Yesterday. Interviewer: Okay would you use down for another town down 165: Yes. Interviewer: #1 How would you use give an example? # 165: #2 {X} # Downtown. You going downtown? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And is there a town near here that you might say well I'm going over What's the nearest town on out this way uh? This is highway uh this this 165: #1 Preston # Interviewer: #2 road # 165: I'm going to Preston. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you say I'm going over there? 165: oh yes I say I'm going over to Preston Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about when you were going to, you getting coffee? 165: No that's a they coming back {X} Interviewer: Oh. Okay. Uh What about uh Okay and uh what about if I uh was asking you about someone and uh he is you know at the Browns uh uh uh living with them you might say well He lives the Browns. 165: Say he live over there with the Browns. Interviewer: Okay and if the Browns lived a good way away how would you say that? 165: #1 He live # Interviewer: #2 He lives # 165: He live with the Browns Interviewer: What if its ten or twenty miles away? 165: I say well he live with the Browns you have to go about ten miles to get there. Interviewer: Okay. Would you be likely to say down to the Browns or up to the Browns according to which way it was? 165: Yes. I say over down. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if there was a party and there was trouble there maybe the police came you might say well the police came and arrested the 165: Whole crew Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh If where young people like to go out to in the evening where they have music and maybe move around on the floor you might say they went to a 165: Dance. Interviewer: And if uh- if uh children get out of school at four o'clock you might say well its four o'clock school does what? 165: Be out at four. Interviewer: And uh after vacation when they're asking about the time to go back they might say well when does school? 165: Start back. Interviewer: And if a kid wa- left home to go to school but really didn't go what would you say he did? 165: He stayed home this morning. I don't know how come. Interviewer: Okay well what if his mother thought he went to school? And he uh 165: And he didn't go. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you say uh skipped or played played 165: Hooky. I say he played hooky today. Interviewer: Okay uh and Why do they go to school you say well people go to school to get an 165: Education. Interviewer: And after high school you may go on to? 165: College. Interviewer: And after kindergarten the children go to school go to kindergarten they're five years old, Well then when they're six they go to the 165: School and they Interviewer: #1 and they # 165: #2 be more prepared. # Interviewer: Right and they'll be in after kindergarten they'll be in which grade? The- 165: First grade. Interviewer: Okay and if you're sitting in school you're sitting in a? 165: School. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And the thing you sit at like if I say somebody left a note on my? 165: Desk. Interviewer: And the whole room there has a lot of new? 165: Desks. Interviewer: And the building is especially made for books is called the Place where you go to check out books? 165: Library. Interviewer: Okay how's that? 165: The library. Interviewer: And you go to mail a post well to mail a letter or a package you have to go to the 165: Post office. Interviewer: Okay if you go to another town and you don't have family or friends there it's a strange town you probably stay over night in a? 165: Motel hotel. Interviewer: And if you go to see a play you'll go to the? or a movie? 165: {X} {X} Interviewer: Theat-? 165: Theater. {X} Interviewer: And if you have a operation you have to go to the? 165: Hospital. Interviewer: And you're taken care in the hospital you're taking care of a? you're taken care of by 165: #1 to the doctors # Interviewer: #2 someone # 165: #1 nurses # Interviewer: #2 the doctors? # Okay and uh. A doctor and a? 165: Nurses. Interviewer: And you catch a train at the? 165: Station. Interviewer: Okay and what's another way of saying station? Older word maybe down to the? 165: Depot. Interviewer: And a open place in the city and there's not one down in the Americus downtown but a square like maybe where there are uh maybe grass and trees maybe the area around the courthouse What would that be called? 165: Park. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody walks across where two streets come together instead of walking across this street and across that one if he goes diagonally across you might say well he's walking? 165: Across the street. Interviewer: Okay. Have you got a word that would mean that if instead of going just straight across the street he angles off and goes that way? He's not walking the right way going straight across he's going? You ever heard of kitty-corner catty-corner? 165: Catty-cornering Interviewer: And you wouldn't say it? 165: No ma'am Interviewer: Okay. And uh The vehicles that used to run on tracks with a wire up ahead Did you have that around here. 165: No. Interviewer: They they call 'em city streaks they go on a rail sometimes. 165: What they call 'em trolley? Interviewer: Tro-? 165: Trolley. Interviewer: Okay. And you might tell the bus driver the next car is where I wanna? 165: Get off. Interviewer: And uh there may be several small towns in a county but the principle one where the government is is goes on is called the 165: Capital. Interviewer: Okay or the county? You might have heard them say the county capital or the county seat or? You might say well Plains is where I live but Americus is really the You'd say the capital? 165: Atlanta the capital Interviewer: of capital the state right 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Just of Sumter County # {X} 165: Sumter county {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: And uh you might well say in Atlanta is where all of the what takes place? 165: {X} Interviewer: The state? It's not the federal but it's the state 165: Capital Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you work at the post office you say well I'm working for the 165: Government. Interviewer: Okay. And the police in the town are supposed to keep what? 165: Oh Supposed to keep a record. Interviewer: Okay and uh to keep a maybe from uh there being uh traffic violations and uh fights you might say well they keep uh uh they maintain maybe put something with order they maintain 165: the order law and order. Interviewer: What? 165: Keep the law and order. Interviewer: Okay. And that uh that fight between the Northern and the Southern states back at uh uh at the- the time of freedom is called the what war? {NW} forgot that one? Well have you heard any of these used for it? The Civil War, the War of the States, the Confederate War? 165: Yes ma'am I heard of them. Interviewer: Which one would you think you heard most? 165: Confederate War. Interviewer: Okay. And if uh Before they had the electric chair a murderer was uh was what he was? 165: Electrocuted. Interviewer: Before they had the electric chair. 165: They hung 'em. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say well uh. If someone killed himself that way you might say he went out and 165: Murder hisself. Interviewer: Okay and to say he did it this way you'd 165: He hung hisself. Interviewer: Alright. Okay now here are a few uh a few states uh What's the the name of the biggest, oh well, the state that's got the biggest city in it is what, in- in America? Is- New? 165: {X} New York. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Baltimore is in? 165: Maryland. Interviewer: And uh Richmond is the capital of? 165: Virginia. Interviewer: And uh uh Raleigh is in? Mm 165: North Carolina Interviewer: Okay uh can you talk a little louder? 165: North Carolina. Interviewer: Okay that's {X} Scoot that up a little bit more there. Okay. And uh Columbia o- is uh Not North Carolina but 165: South Carolina Interviewer: Okay and our state is? 165: Georgia. Interviewer: And just uh just south of us where everybody goes for vacation is? 165: Alabama? Interviewer: And uh the one down that's where all the oranges grow? 165: Florida. Interviewer: And uh Down uh Baton Rouge is the capital of? Loui-? 165: Louisiana. Interviewer: And uh the Bluegrass state is up north of here on the other side of Tennessee is? Ken- 165: Kentucky. Interviewer: Okay and between us and Kentucky is the one I just mentioned? T-? 165: Tennessee. Interviewer: And uh uh the state uh there's a wall it's uh that was {NW} the state was real famous for and there was a President who was from this state and he played the piano They say do you remember the Show Me State it's called, Mis-? Miss-? Missouri? Missouri? 165: {X} Interviewer: Say it. Will you say it out for me? 165: Missouri. Interviewer: Okay. Little Rock is the capital of? 165: Kansas. Interviewer: Okay and there's one uh that's kinda like Kansas but its has Ark in front of it Ark? 165: Arkansas. Interviewer: Okay and uh uh Jackson is the capital of M- Miss-? 165: Mississippi. Interviewer: And the Lone Star State out west the big western state where all the ranches and cattle are, the cowboys as- Te- 165: Tennessee. Interviewer: uh the great big one out there Tex- 165: Texas. Interviewer: And Tulsa is in O- O- 165: Oklahoma. Interviewer: Okay and Boston up east is in? Ma- 165: Massachusetts Interviewer: And all of the states up there not the southern states or the western states but those up east are called the N-? New E-? New England? 165: New England State. Interviewer: Okay. And the biggest city in Maryland is? Ba-? Balt-? 165: Baltimore. Interviewer: Okay. And the capital of the whole United States is? Wash-? 165: Washington. Interviewer: And what are what after that 165: #1 D-C # Interviewer: #2 they say? # D-C Okay. And uh the biggest city in Missouri it's got a real famous blues song named for it, it's Saint? 165: Louis. Interviewer: Okay how is that? 165: Saint Louis. Interviewer: Okay and then in South Carolina big town that has a sea port is? Ch-? Charle-? 165: Charleston. Interviewer: And the big town in Alabama is? Bir-? 165: Birmingham. Interviewer: And in Illinois is the big city is? Ch-? 165: Chicago. Interviewer: How's that? 165: Chicago. Interviewer: Okay. And the capital of Alabama is? Mon-? 165: Montgomery. Interviewer: And the one, another big town in Alabama is down in the Gulf is Mo-? Mobile? 165: Mobile Alabama. Interviewer: And uh another city over in North Carolina in the mountains? Ash-? Ash-? You know Asheville? 165: Asheville. Interviewer: You heard, how is that? 165: {X} Interviewer: Uh You ever traveled up in there? 165: No. Interviewer: Uh Asheville did you would you say that one for me? 165: Asheville. Interviewer: Okay. And in- in Tennessee there's uh. What are some towns in Tennessee? Kno- 165: Knoxville Tennessee. Interviewer: And the one up there on the border Ch-? 165: Chattanooga. Interviewer: Okay how's that? 165: Chattanooga Tennessee. Interviewer: Okay. And uh the big city in west Tennessee where the blues was started, Beale Street Blues you know about that one? Mem-? 165: Memphis. Interviewer: #1 And # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: The city where Martin Luther King was killed? The capital is? N-? Na-? 165: Nashville. Interviewer: Okay. And of course the largest city in Georgia is? 165: Atlanta. Interviewer: Okay and our seaport over there is S-? Savan-? Still in Georgia, Sav-? 165: Sylvester? Interviewer: Syl- uh-huh and over on the coast is another one sounds kinda like that Savan-? 165: Savannah Georgia. Interviewer: And uh then the biggest city in southern Georgia is? Still kinda north of here, M-? Mac-? 165: Maconville. Interviewer: uh then there's another one that's named for uh the uh guy that discovered America, Co-? Colum-? 165: Columbus. Interviewer: And uh The biggest city in Louisiana is famous for the Mardi Gras New? New Or-? 165: New Orleans. Interviewer: And the capital of Louisiana is? Baton baton? 165: Baton. Interviewer: Rouge? And the biggest city in Ohio is where the Reds and the Bengals play their home games is? Cin-? 165: Chicago. Interviewer: Cinci- 165: Cincinnati. Interviewer: Okay and the biggest city in Kentucky that's famous for the Derby is? Loui- 165: Louisiana. Interviewer: Loui-? 165: Louisville. Interviewer: Yeah. And uh If you're talking about going from this town to that town Somebody wants to know the distance you might say oh from Plains to Americus is about? 165: Ten miles. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And if somebody asks you to go with him somewhere and you're not sure whether you want to go or not you might say oh I don't know it 165: Just look on the highway it's on the highway. Interviewer: #1 Yeah well that's # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Right. Now if someone's inviting you to ride somewhere and you don't know whether you want to go or not you might say well I might I'm not sure whether I really? 165: #1 Oh # Interviewer: #2 I'm not sure if, I'm not sure what # {X} 165: Whether I wanna go or not. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 165: #2 go or not # Interviewer: Okay. And if you have a very sick friend and he's not likely to get any better You might say uh it seems like to me that he 165: Not doing well. Interviewer: Okay and if you wanna Make it a little worse than that you might say, it seems like to me he's 165: Won't be long now. Interviewer: He's not gonna? 165: Make it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Uh if you were asked to go somewhere and maybe make a long trip without your daughter or somebody you might say well I won't go They go, I won't go 165: {X} trying to take the trip by myself I won't go that Interviewer: I won't go what? 165: I won't go without my daughter go Interviewer: Okay. And uh If uh uh you were doing some work and uh one of the girls was here with you and uh uh she didn't offer to help at all and you went on and did it but then you might say Well why did you sit around When you could a been helping me? Why did you sit around and 165: I got it bout done and it didn't go to heck. Interviewer: Okay well maybe she didn't even help at all and you wanna know why she did one thing instead of the other thing. Why did you sit around blank helping me? 165: and didn't help for any of it Interviewer: Inst- instead how would you? 165: Instead of sitting there reading. Interviewer: Okay. If a man is uh, if a person is funny and you enjoy talking to them you might- you might say why do you like him you might say I like him because? 165: He gets funny. Interviewer: Okay. 165: Friendly. Interviewer: Okay. And what are the names of the say some of the larger churches around here, what's the biggest church around here? Probably. 165: {B} Interviewer: Okay and if people become church members you might say well last Sunday they? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay when they actually became members of the church they say last Sunday Ms. Jones what the church they? 165: Joined the church. Interviewer: Okay. And in church you pray to? 165: Heaven. Interviewer: Okay and the person the being you pray to is? 165: Jesus. Interviewer: Okay or his father is? 165: The Lord. Interviewer: Jesus is the son of? 165: The living God. Interviewer: Okay. A little louder? 165: Son of the living God. Interviewer: Yes ma'am. Alright and you say well Sunday the preacher preached a a good? 165: Sermon. Interviewer: And somebody will say I didn't so much enjoy the sermon I usually go to church to listen to the? 165: I'd say well better examine yourself sometimes you Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And maybe he uh maybe they have a very good pianist or organist in the choir and you might say well I don't really enjoy the sermon but I like to go listen to the 165: Singing. Interviewer: Okay. And uh somebody might say the choir and the organist provided good m-? 165: Music today. Interviewer: And uh talking about music you'd say that music is simply? 165: Good. Interviewer: Okay any other way you might say that? More than good it was just? 165: Fine. Interviewer: Beu- 165: Beautiful. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody was maybe on the way to church and they thought they had plenty of time but maybe they had a flat tire or something and they might say well for goodness sakes church will be over 165: When you get there. Interviewer: Okay. Or uh uh by the by the time I get there would you that? Alright. And the uh the enemy of God or the opposite of God is called the? There's God in heaven and then and 165: The Devil. Interviewer: Okay and he is uh uh uh Okay the opposite of God and oh If there's a na- uh a graveyard or an old house that's been empty uh. And uh People might be afraid to go around there and you say well there's nothing to be afraid of what are you afraid of? And they're going to say well I don't wanna go around there because there might be 165: {X} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # That what they used to say. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If there's a old house and uh they're afraid to go in they say don't go there that house is? 165: Haunted. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And uh if it's beginning to be winter and somebody's going out you might say well you better put a sweater on it's getting? 165: Cool. Interviewer: Alright it's it's getting? 165: Cold. Interviewer: A little bit uh chilly how would you say getting ra- getting? 165: Chilly out there today Interviewer: If somebody asks you do you wanna go and you say oh I might but I guess I'd r- 165: {X} stay home today Interviewer: How's that? 165: I'd rather stay home today. Interviewer: Okay. Um And if you uh {X} What do you say to a friend that you haven't seen for a long time how do you tell them that you're How do you 165: {X} so glad to see you Interviewer: Okay. And uh. How do you describe the amount of land that a man owns if it's a considerable amount you might say Well Mr. so and so owns Say he has five hundred acres of land how would you say that? That's a of land. 165: A lot of land. Interviewer: Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: so and so 165: Mister so and so. Interviewer: Okay any other ways of saying that? {X} just besides saying a lot you might say well he owns a 165: He owns just about all the land all the biggest the land around here. Interviewer: Okay would you ever use a right smart or something? 165: Yes. Interviewer: How would you say? 165: {NW} He owns the right smart of it. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever use right smart any other ways? Uh besides maybe land would you use it to talk about uh pain? 165: Yeah Interviewer: #1 How? # 165: #2 I'd # say he right smart, he seems like he in right smart of pain today. Interviewer: What about the weather? Would you ever say it rained uh 165: A right smart. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. Uh. If you wanna say uh more than just well yes to something you might uh say a lot more enthusiasm for if somebody says Well will you be glad to see your- your grandson and daughter when they get back and you say why? 165: Sure I'll be glad Interviewer: Okay. And uh How would you if somebody says can you uh Can you take this recipe and fix it and you wanna say well Indeed so you might say why 165: Sure Interviewer: Okay. 165: I can fix it. Interviewer: Okay and uh. If somebody particularly disliked to go somewhere. You might say well now we've always enjoyed going over there but my grandson just 165: Don't wanna go Interviewer: Okay. He just disliked that place tremendously, he just the place he 165: #1 He just # Interviewer: #2 just what? # 165: don't like it over there. Interviewer: Okay more than dis- more than don't like it uh he just 165: Just don't like over there. Interviewer: Alright. And uh What uh are the different uh old little sort of uh exclamations that you make might make if you do something that you don't mean to uh uh to do or if you hurt yourself accidentally, like if you're trying to hammer and you hit your finger you slam your finger you might say? 165: Ow. Interviewer: Okay. And what about uh uh sort of uh of of cussing maybe you wouldn't say it but maybe some of the men would something goes wrong when you hurt yourself would you ever, what else would a man would be likely to say? Little stronger than oh or ouch? 165: {NW} Hell I hit my hand. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What about anything uh exclamation oh da- it? 165: Damn thing hurt. Interviewer: Okay. And uh. What other uh if you're just a little bitty excited about something you might say for goodness sake's or what other ways would you say that, oh? 165: {X} What is all that? Interviewer: Okay. What about if you're a little bit aggravated with yourself for doing something silly maybe you were cooking and you spill something and you might say oh 165: I messed the hell {X} Interviewer: Okay. Alright and if you're really surprised somebody suggests something to you and. Uh you're uh just disgust you you certainly wouldn't do that and you don't think they should've mentioned it or somebody says Well uh uh would you take something that belongs to somebody else? You might say why the? of course I wouldn't the? 165: That's a no I wouldn't take it. Interviewer: Okay the very? 165: {X} I don't I wouldn't do that. Interviewer: Okay I wouldn't do that the very I? 165: I'd rather not do it Interviewer: Mm-kay. Would you ever say the idea, the very idea or? 165: That's The wrong idea I wouldn't do it Interviewer: Okay. And uh. If you meet uh Somebody and uh they say good morning to you what would you probably say next to them? 165: Good morning. Interviewer: And then you might say well how? 165: How you do this morning? Interviewer: Okay If you're introduced to a stranger What might you say? 165: Glad to meet you. Interviewer: {X} and you might uh uh and if and he might say I'm glad to meet you and you might say? How 165: How are you? Interviewer: Okay. And if someone has been to your home and you've enjoyed having them you might say to them well come? 165: When you coming back? Interviewer: Okay. 165: #1 Come any # Interviewer: #2 Come {X} # 165: anytime. Interviewer: Come agai-? 165: Come again. Anytime. Just glad to have you. Interviewer: Okay and when you see somebody on the twenty-fifth of December you're likely to say to them? 165: Christmas {X} Interviewer: Okay or M- 165: Merry Christmas. Interviewer: And if you see somebody on the first of January you're likely to say? Ha-? 165: Happy New Year Interviewer: And uh By way of appreciation in addition to saying ar- Instead of saying thank you what else might you say I'm much? 165: obli- Interviewer: And uh If you're not sure whether you have time to do something or not you might say I? I'll have time I? 165: I don't know Interviewer: Okay. 165: whether I have time or not. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and if you're just wondering whether or not you have time you might say well I- I um I? I guess I? 165: I guess I will if I have time. {X} Interviewer: And if you uh if you need to go to the grocery store you might say have to go downtown to do some? 165: Shopping. Interviewer: Okay. Any other word for shopping? Uh trading would you 165: #1 trading I go # Interviewer: #2 eve- # 165: {X} it's trade day {NW} Interviewer: Trade day? Okay if you make a purchase and a storekeeper might take a piece of paper and and what would he do with it? if you go buy something you take a piece of paper and put it around it he did what? 165: He wrap it. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say well Uh uh this is all torn up he? When I bought it he? 165: Wrapped it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if a s- uh man Um. Buys something to sell And then uh if you say he buyed he bought uh something for five dollars but he he had to sell it for two fifty you might say well he had to sell it? 165: Cheaper than he Interviewer: oh 165: Bought it. Interviewer: Okay. Uh Below cost or at a loss? Would you say 165: I'd say he had to sell it at a low cost and he lost. Interviewer: Okay. And if you look at something in the store and you think well I'd like to have that and then you ask about the price and you ci- decide that that you can't afford it then you might say well I'd like to have it but it? 165: It's too much. Interviewer: It what too much 165: costs too much Interviewer: It what? 165: Costs too much. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say well time to pay the bill, the bill is due the bill the first of the month you pay the bill, the bill is what? 165: Due the first. Interviewer: Okay. If you belong to a club you have to pay the? 165: Dues. Interviewer: And if you don't have any money you might go to a friend and try to 165: Borrow it. Interviewer: and uh if the banker is asked uh about uh making uh a loan and he might say now well I like to lend it to you but money is Uh money is? Uh if something is is hard to come by he might say well I'd like to lend it to you but uh Money is not uh easy to uh to find or what about this, if somebody goes hunting. and they come back and the didn't get anything and they say well hunting is not what it used to be, game is getting? 165: Scarce. Interviewer: Okay. and uh in swimming uh somebody might go up on the the springboard and into the water. 165: Dive in. Interviewer: Okay. And uh You might say uh Well as soon as he got there yesterday he? 165: {X} right on to the pool Interviewer: Okay. 165: dived in Interviewer: And, alright. And what? 165: Dived in. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody, if kids dive into the water and hit flat the they may say they call that a what do you know? 165: No. Interviewer: Uh. Uh you ever heard the kids talk about a belly flop, belly bust? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. If uh the children, little children are playing and they like to do something which is to put their head on the ground and then kick their feet up and go on over in a circle you say he turned a? 165: Wheelbarrow. Interviewer: A what? 165: Wheelbarrow. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. Uh you ever heard what they call somerset? 165: No. Interviewer: Wheelbarrow when he goes like this? 165: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} And if somebody wanted to go across the river and it was too deep for him to wade across you might say well he he's going to have to 165: Swim across. {NW} Interviewer: And uh If someone went to the uh uh the river yesterday you might say well he went down there and yesterday he? 165: He swam alright yesterday. Interviewer: Okay and He had gone down there everyday this year he has gone down there and 165: Swim. Interviewer: Okay. Okay do you remember maybe a long time ago when {NW} people used to uh uh have an account at the the store at the grocery store and maybe just pay it after the crops were uh were harvested and maybe when they sold the things Do you remember anything about a storekeeper giving some kind of a little present when they payed the bill? 165: Yes. Interviewer: What did they call that? Do you remember? 165: Nah no I don't remember but I know he used to give my dad {X} you know and then I w- Interviewer: What would they give him? You remember? 165: Out on the farm I know one thing he always brought to us a sack of can and uh hand lotion any little thing but he'd always hand the children a sack of peppermint. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 165: #2 {X} # we was so glad I just look at the children these days Christmas all the time and we just Interviewer: Yeah. 165: Worked so hard. Interviewer: Yeah but that was pretty great to get the 165: #1 yea # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 165: I'd say we lived it pretty good. We had to work though but I enjoyed that life Interviewer: #1 Right # 165: #2 We # had a plenty to eat. And uh Raised it you know Interviewer: #1 Sure # 165: #2 We had to # plenty We were a family Not all families live like my family did {X} There's a big family of us and my daddy worked it hard and {X} Interviewer: How uh where were you and your brothers and sisters Ruth you told me but I forgot Were you one of the older ones or one of the younger ones? 165: I'm one of the younger ones. My oldest sister dead, oldest brother ain't but two of us living. {X} All them dead. One died in Savannah My baby brother died in Savannah {NW} Fell dead {X} Interviewer: Yes I think you told me about it. 165: And my oldest brother Died in Jacksonville a few years ago. Next one died in Americus. And my next brother died in Augusta. My oldest sister died in Milledgeville. She had {X} Interviewer: She had what? 165: {X} they call it Interviewer: Oh. 165: You know that breaking out on your hands Interviewer: Oh. 165: I don't think that they call it that now. Interviewer: I don't know. 165: And uh She was a good woman. She taught school and my oldest brother wanted to come She's- her mind was getting bad you know and he Didn't want her to go to Milledgeville so he taking her to Jacksonville and he um was scared so bad you know they took her anyway. Interviewer: Yes. 165: And my Next sister died in Detroit she had two twin that low blood. {X} Interviewer: Oh was she young? 165: She died young. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: Yes. {X} Interviewer: Well are your uh parents buried 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 165: And I've been here all my {X} our home been here all my life. Interviewer: {X} 165: But uh I had a brother that be buried in Detroit. He died up there. And my Oldest brother I buried in Jacksonville they'd been gone so long we see that's where his friends were. We all went there the people had moved ending up in different counties And my baby brother we buried him in Savannah. It wasn't but three us to go, we went there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 165: And bury him. Interviewer: Well are most of your children and grandchildren, well I know they're scattered out a good bit 165: #1 I got # Interviewer: #2 Some of # them here? 165: I got four children here and four away. My baby boy is in Brooklyn, New York and my oldest son in Syracuse. And they told us {X} Florida. And my {X} daughter. Is in Delray Um I, my baby daughter live near Whitney. My oldest daughter live up there in the project. And I gotta son live in south Plains. I told him go away Interviewer: Well Let's see. {NS} Um {NS} If um After you buy uh uh {X} man at the market wraps up a package when you get home you got to say well now I got to 'un- to what? 165: Undo it and put it up in the freezer or put it up in {X} frigerator. Interviewer: Okay. And uh {NS} Uh. If someone was swimming in the river And uh and maybe just couldn't swim very well and couldn't get out you might say well he was? 165: He got drowned Interviewer: Okay. And uh. {X} 165: Oh that them coming back {NW} {NS} Interviewer: And you might tell the children to don't get in that water I'm afraid you'll 165: Get drowned there. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say well every year someone has in that pool 165: They got drowned in there. Interviewer: And what does a baby do before it's able to walk? 165: Crawl. Interviewer: And uh if you see something in a tree you watch you'll say well somebody will have to that tree 165: Have to get it down. Interviewer: Okay and what do you call it when you go up a tree you say? 165: Climb. Interviewer: #1 Okay and you'll # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Alright say well yesterday he 165: Climbed that tree. Interviewer: A- or everyday he has 165: Climbed that tree. Interviewer: Okay. And if a man wants to hide behind uh something that's low you might say well if you're going to get out of sight there you'll have to 165: Squat down. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if somebody's going o- if one of the children's going over behind the chair and uh he was going to jump out and play a trick he might uh uh jump out and go what would he say to surprise you he might say? 165: Boo. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: and uh What about when when little children play this trick you know with uh this way peeping what do you call that? 165: Peeping. Oh. Hide and seek. Interviewer: Okay Uh And if in church if somebody if you're saying somebody went up to the altar and she? to pray what would she do? She would? 165: Kneel down {NS} Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say yesterday she went up to the altar and 165: Prayed. Interviewer: Okay and what did she do to get down on her knees? 165: She knelt down. Interviewer: Okay how's that? 165: She knelt down on her knee Interviewer: Okay. 165: to pray Interviewer: And if someone if you're tired you might say well I'm tired I'm going to 165: Rest. Interviewer: Okay I'm going to in bed and I'm- 165: Lay down and rest. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Uh you might say well talking about someone he he was really sick, he couldn't even sit up he just in bed all day he? 165: I know he sick cuz he stayed in bed and didn't like it Interviewer: Okay. And uh Uh you might say all morning he? le- in bed? 165: Laid down all morning. Interviewer: Okay. And if you talk about something that you sort of saw in your sleep you might say well last night I all night. 165: I dreamt all night. Interviewer: Okay how was that? 165: I dreamt. All night. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 165: #2 about something # Interviewer: I hope I don't tonight I hope 165: I hope I don't have that tonight. Interviewer: Okay I hope I- 165: That's a nightmare. Interviewer: Okay. Don't dr- 165: dream tonight. Interviewer: Okay and Every night this week I have 165: Been dreaming. Interviewer: Okay I have d- I have dr- 165: dreamed every night. {X} Interviewer: Okay. Uh alright you might say well I dreamed such and such and all of a sudden I 165: Woke up. Interviewer: Okay. And if you bring your foot down heavy on the floor you do what, you say you? Your feet on the floor you? 165: bring your feet down Interviewer: Okay but the noise when you go plump down your foot you say I'm going to or the the children say the the teacher at school was scolding she her foot on the floor. 165: Yes. Interviewer: She s-? 165: Stomped. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If a man meets a girl at a dance and he wants to uh to go home with her he might say to her may I? 165: Have this dance? Interviewer: Okay. And may I 165: #1 take you home? # Interviewer: #2 home with me # How? 165: Take you home. Interviewer: Okay. And if you have uh um. A big box out there and you wanna get it in here you might say you have to 165: Pull it in. Interviewer: Alright and if your car's stuck in the mud you might ask somebody in another car to get behind you and 165: Push it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you carried uh something that was very heavy and {X} Interviewer: Okay. Alright and th- you might say I carried it or I 165: Toted it all the way Interviewer: Okay. If some children come in the house and start playing with maybe the picture and you wanna be sure that it doesn't get broken you might say to them now don't you 165: Play with that. Interviewer: Okay. don't you even 165: Touch it. Interviewer: Okay. And if you need a hammer you might say to me will you go in there and 165: Bring me the hammer. Interviewer: And if the children are playing uh uh say ta- tag or hide and go seek and the tree where they put their hands and are safe what do they call that? 165: Where they put their hand is Interviewer: Uh if they're playing a game you know like tag or hide and go seek and there's one place where they can go and they're safe. You remember what they call that? That tree over there is going to be Alright football they kick the ball through the the goal 165: I don't remember Interviewer: {X} You don't know about football. 165: Not at all I don't like {X} It looks like its {X} Interviewer: It sure doesn't it? Okay well what about uh Would the children maybe say I'm going to uh this tree is going to be base or home 165: Oh home. Interviewer: Home? 165: {X} Interviewer: If you throw a ball you ask somebody to 165: {NW} Catch it. Interviewer: And you say {X} Who that ball? Who? 165: Who caught that ball? Interviewer: Okay. And you might say well I've thrown it to you a dozen times and you haven't? 165: {NW} Caught it yet. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And if you say uh Let's let's meet downtown if I get there first I'll 165: Wait for you. Interviewer: And if somebody um Uh say one of the children is trying to learn to do something maybe bake something and and they try and its a mess and then they try again. and uh you're just d- about to give up but he says well give me another 165: Try. Interviewer: Okay give- 165: Another try. Interviewer: Or another ch-? 165: Chance. Interviewer: Okay. And if a man is in a very good mood you might say well he's in a real good? 165: Mood today. Interviewer: Or another word for mood he's in a good 165: {X} attitude today. Interviewer: Okay. Well what about if he's in uh if he's angry or real sour temper you might say He's in a bad? 165: Temper today. Interviewer: Okay. 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. {NW} What about a word that starts with u or hu- he's in a bad humor-? 165: Humor today. Interviewer: How's that? 165: Humor. Interviewer: Okay. And if you have uh uh hired somebody maybe to trim the bushes or something but he just is lazy all the time you might say well I'm gonna have to get 165: Somebody else I don't want him no more. Interviewer: Okay. And just talking about letting him go. Or maybe you have uh {NW} uh say termites and you say I figure out some way to get 165: #1 Of these te- # Interviewer: #2 Rid. # 165: Rid of these termites. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if uh If he didn't if somebody didn't know something but he uh he's he tried to give the appearance of knowing it you might say well he didn't know what was going on. but he? He knew it. 165: He knew what he was doing. Interviewer: But he? 165: Tried. Interviewer: Okay. Or he wanted to give the impression he did 165: {X} Interviewer: Yea I would just say he made out he 165: {X} done the best he could he tried. Interviewer: Okay. But uh if uh you go somewhere and maybe you know how to do something and there's somebody else there who who who acts like they know all about it but they really don't you might say well she said that she knew what was going she uh 165: I'd say she says she know it let her do it Interviewer: Okay 165: I wouldn't try to take it Interviewer: Okay. Uh would you be more likely to say she acted like it or she made out like she knew or 165: Yea she act like she knowed it all let her I let her done it. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And if the kids have uh some say their school supplies uh And one of them notices that their pencil is gone What kind of slang word might they uh so that might say well who my pencil 165: Stole my pencil. Interviewer: Okay. any other way of saying stole it who? 165: Took my pencil. Interviewer: Alright would they say that or w- 165: They say either one of them. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay. And uh {NW} If you might say oh I had forgotten about that but now I? 165: Know. Interviewer: I re- 165: -member. Interviewer: Okay. Any other ways of saying that? 165: I forgot it but I remember it now that now I want to Interviewer: Okay. and uh You might say well w- she has a better memory than I do because I sure don't 165: Remember nothing now. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And you might say uh uh w- You said you had a letter from your grandson this morning you might say well I? I- I am going to sit right down and pen a letter. 165: I'll read it and write him right back. Interviewer: Okay. And then you might say well just last night I? him a letter. 165: {X} wrote him my own letter {X} he owed me one Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 165: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And you might say Every uh every week I have 165: Wrote a letter for him. Interviewer: Okay. And you have sent one to him every week Say I have Wr- 165: Written him back. Interviewer: Okay. Or I have wr- How would you say uh every 165: I- I say I wrote him back every week {X} Interviewer: Okay. and uh uh I wr- I wrote asking him a question and I expect an 165: Answer. From his next letter. Interviewer: Okay. and when you put the letter in an in the envelope and you write on the outside of it You say you take your pen and the envelope. You uh 165: Put his address on it. Interviewer: Okay. And maybe if your hand is cramped or something and you say {NW} would you this letter for me? 165: You write this letter for me? Interviewer: Okay. and uh You might'd say well I wanna write to Joe do you know his? 165: Address. Interviewer: Okay. And if a little boy has learned something new and uh maybe he's learned how to whistle and you wanna know uh where he learned it you might say well now who 165: taught you that? Interviewer: Okay. and uh if you're uh Uh if somebody said well When are you uh going to uh to Americus Uh well let's make say a bigger trip than that maybe to uh to Delray you might say when are you going to Delray? {NW} Well we're Next Wednesday we're what? 165: We're going to Interviewer: #1 Right # 165: #2 {X} # Interviewer: You don't know for sure but you kinda have it in your mind {X} 165: I'm planning to go next Wednesday. Interviewer: Okay. And what do the children call somebody who always tattles? You have a little boy who's been bad and a little girl says to him I'm gonna go tell and you say oh don't be a 165: Tattle tale. Interviewer: Okay. And if you want to put flowers on the uh k- table you go out in the garden and 165: Pick 'em in the morning. Interviewer: Uh pick what? 165: Pick 'em early in the morning. Interviewer: Uh Okay. I I need for you to give me the word here you're gonna put uh a bouquet on the table you go out in the garden and pick what? 165: Flowers. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And something a child might play with is a? or mi- maybe they've been playing and there's things scattered around you might say go in and 165: Pick up your toys now Interviewer: Okay. Any other old word for toys that you might use? 165: Uh pick up your things. Interviewer: Okay. And if something happened that you were expecting or maybe were uh afraid might happen for example a child might hurt himself while doing something You might say 165: I told you to move that. Interviewer: Okay or I uh I knew it or I knowed it I just know? I want 165: I knew it was gonna happen. Interviewer: Okay. 165: Told you to move that stuff. Interviewer: And uh if you might say well uh uh uh this is the book uh that uh that you me. you 165: You sent me. Interviewer: Alright or 165: Lend me. Interviewer: Or Take alright. 165: {X} Interviewer: And yesterday you 165: left it Interviewer: Ge-? Yesterday you Use give. 165: You give it to me. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say well you have me several good books you have? 165: Given me several good books. Interviewer: Okay. You might say well I'm glad I carried my umbrella we hadn't gone a mile when it 165: started raining. Interviewer: Okay. Would you say started any other way? It had just just started to rain or it? 165: Began a raining Interviewer: Okay. Did you ever say commenced? 165: Commenced raining that's right. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. when you're out of breath or you might say to somebody why are you out of breath I was uh feeling so good that I? All the way home. 165: Tired. Interviewer: Okay. And uh not walked but I 165: I run. Interviewer: Okay. Yesterday I? All the way home I 165: run all the way home. Interviewer: Okay. And uh These people up the street uh like to run they have a mile everyday they have 165: They runs everyday. Interviewer: Okay. If uh you don't know where a man was born you might say where does he? from where 165: Where's he from? Interviewer: Where does he? 165: Live. Interviewer: Okay. But you mean the place where he was born where does he? 165: Where was he born at? Interviewer: Okay. Uh and uh You wanna know uh from what place he is you might say where did he? 165: Come from. Interviewer: Okay. And uh he he ride on the train yesterday you might say well he? 165: gone on the train {X} yesterday Interviewer: Alright and uh He has to our town every month he has 165: Been here every month. Interviewer: Okay. He has Come or came Would you say he is? 165: He come here every month. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Uh. If somebody asks uh uh where someone is and you say well I don't know I? Outside just a minute ago I? 165: I see him a few minutes ago. Interviewer: Okay. But I don't? 165: Know where he at Interviewer: #1 alright # 165: #2 now. # Interviewer: And I look out there and I don't. 165: See him now. Interviewer: Okay. Uh And you might say uh Well we we hope you come back to see us we haven't uh {NS} we haven't much of you this year 165: We haven't seen much of you this year. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if uh You can't you tell somebody somebody asks about the road and you say well you can't go through there the highway department's got their machines in and the road is all 165: Closed in Interviewer: All uh 165: Uh Interviewer: It's not smooth. It's all 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. and it's uh They have just uh uh you know 165: {X} Interviewer: Dug it up or they- it's all torn up? 165: all torn the other way go around Interviewer: Okay. And if you give one of your granddaughters a bracelet and she thanks you for it you might say well why don't you 165: Put it on. {NW} Interviewer: And uh Then if you say well if she says well it doesn't fit well you say well 165: {X} didn't fit Interviewer: Okay. But you wanna tell her that you'll uh 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 165: I'll exchange it Interviewer: Okay. So the opposite of put it on is to? 165: exchange Interviewer: Okay. Put it on and then you? Ta- 165: Take it off. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If you say uh ask someone if they're able to do something you might say can you? 165: Help me today? Interviewer: Okay. can you do that it can you Uh Do you know how to do something you'd say can you that? Or you might say well I don't do that very well but my sister can 165: Do it. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say well yesterday she? She does it today and yesterday she d- 165: Do it today for me. Interviewer: Okay. And she did it? 165: Yesterday and today. Interviewer: Okay. And she has? All my life she has? Fixed my hair 165: {X} all my life {X} Interviewer: {NW} 165: #1 Fixed # Interviewer: #2 She has # 165: my hair. Interviewer: Okay. And use do there she has like she does it today or she did it yesterday she has d-? 165: done it Interviewer: Okay. {NW} If you're just sitting why somebody turns around to you and says what did you say and you might say well I didn't I said I didn't say 165: Anything. Interviewer: Okay. Or I said? 165: Nothing Interviewer: Okay. Uh the Then you might say oh I thought you said 165: {X} Interviewer: Just a little bit louder. 165: {X} Interviewer: Uh and if somebody is talking about something that just sounds like a scam you might say oh I never heard of 165: {X} before. Interviewer: Okay. And if you live here all your life and somebody says have you lived here long you might say well I've lived here? 165: All my life. Interviewer: All? Always? 165: All my life Interviewer: Mm-kay. Another way of saying all my life would be always? 165: Always. Interviewer: And uh {NS} If somebody says uh do you uh do you like to ride the the ferris wheel at the fair? You might say well ever since I uh I almost fell I've been I've been I've been scared of ferris wheels ever? 165: I'd say I don't like ferris wheels. {X} Interviewer: Okay. And uh Uh talking about horses then maybe you might say I got thrown once. And I've been scared of horses ever? 165: Ever since. {X} Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And uh If the children have uh uh uh one of the children gets hit and somebody comes in and and he says well it was just an accident and then they'll say it was not an accident he did it on? he did it? 165: On purpose. Interviewer: Okay. And uh And if you wanna know uh if someone asks how your daughter what your daughter thinks about something you say well I don't know you better? 165: Asked her. Interviewer: And uh uh and I say well uh just yesterday I? I as- her 165: I asked her just yesterday. Interviewer: How was that? 165: I asked her yesterday. Interviewer: Okay. And I have everyday I have 165: Tried to get an answer Interviewer: Okay. I have a-? 165: Asked her everyday. Interviewer: And uh those children just don't get along at all Those two boys just like to 165: Fight. All the time. Every time they get together they have fight. Interviewer: And yesterday they 165: Fought yesterday. Interviewer: And um If someone has uh uh uh fight that involves uh knives and How would you describe What someone did if someone put a knife into someone else he? what him with a big knife? 165: #1 He # Interviewer: #2 He # 165: cut him with a big knife. Interviewer: Alright and if just stuck it in 165: He stabbed him Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And uh What about uh Different words for big knives? 165: He used that switchblade he had. Interviewer: What other kinds of big knives did you think of? 165: {X} Interviewer: What's that look like? 165: crooked like that Interviewer: Uh-huh And uh Alright then you say to somebody he stabbed somebody with a knife and then he did this took the blade out he uh or what about if somebody made there's a picture on there's a funny picture on the blackboard and the teacher says who that picture? 165: Drawed that picture Interviewer: Okay. And if you're going to lift something up like a piece of machinery {NW} uh something real heavy you might use blocks and a rope to pull it up you'd say well now we're going to it up on the roof. 165: {X} Need a tickle to pull it up there Interviewer: Okay. And if you have- what's a tickle? 165: A little round wheel about that big and Interviewer: And it will help full 165: It rolls Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NW} And what do you call it when you say you use the tickle to pull it up there you say well we're going to get up on the roof. 165: up on the roof bring it up to the top. Interviewer: Okay. Is there a way of saying lift it up there uh lift it? 165: You have to lift {X} towed it up there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. A ha- hoist or? 165: but if you use the tickle you if it's real heavy to take a y- you always have something to tie it up with Interviewer: Uh huh okay {NW} And uh If somebody if you don't have a tickle and you say somebody is going to do it or several people and they might still can't lift it and they say come on over here and help us? 165: Lift it up. Interviewer: Okay. Do you know a word hoist for that? To get something up? To move it up? 165: No. Interviewer: No? Okay.. {X} Uh It's not quite midnight and somebody asks you what time it is You might say well it's not quite midnight yet but it's 165: Eleven thirty. Interviewer: Okay. It's midnight it's a-? 165: Almost. Interviewer: Alright any other way of saying almost? It's? midnight it's 165: Just about midnight. Interviewer: Okay. And if you slip and catch yourself you might say this is really a dangerous place I 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. A what? 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. If somebody is waiting for you to get ready So that you can go out with him and he calls to you and he says hey will you be ready soon and you might say I'll be with you in 165: Just a minute. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody uh stops here and uh and they know that this this is the road that goes on in to Plains but uh for your house they wanna know the distance they might say well {NW} how it uh is it down to the the antique store down there how? What's the distance how would they ask that? 165: They say how far is it from here to the antique? Interviewer: Okay. And what pointing to something uh to something you might say well now l- here How would you 165: I say look right here. Interviewer: Okay. And if you're uh if uh uh a boy and his father have the same shaped face maybe you might say the boy what his father? 165: Just like his father. Interviewer: Okay. he? uh i- i- is that the same if his his manner and so forth is the same? Uh if he looks like 165: Uh that's just to say he just like him He just like him Interviewer: Okay. Uh Okay. What about if he has a habit uh if his father did something maybe say uh child over there's the father's real lazy or something and if you really disapprove of him you say that by is going to be 165: Just like his daddy. Interviewer: Okay. And if a woman has looked after three children until they're grown up you might say she has three children how would you say that? 165: I say I say she has she had them all the days. Interviewer: Uh Brought 'em up raised 'em up? 165: Raised 'em up. Interviewer: And uh If a child's been bad you might say listen you're gonna get a? 165: Whooping. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if a child is uh Bob is five inches taller this year you might say Bob? A lot last year 165: Bob sure did grow this year. Interviewer: Okay. And last year he? a lot too. 165: He growed up last year. Interviewer: Okay. every year you have 165: Grown. to your age. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Alright and if uh a child that's born to an unmarried woman you'd say is a? 165: I'd say he was a bastard. Interviewer: Alright are there any old words that maybe somebody didn't wanna use that can you remember any word that somebody used a long time ago when they didn't want to say bastard? 165: That's the oldest word I know of. Interviewer: Only word okay. 165: Oldest I know Interviewer: Okay. have you ever heard anybody call it a woods coat. 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. And uh What about in talking about uh children that are affectionate and loving you might say Jane is a loving child but Peg is a lot? 165: Meaner. Interviewer: Okay. But if she is more than her {X} 165: She more lovely than Jane. Interviewer: Okay. And your brother's son is called your what? 165: {NW} Interviewer: Uh okay. uh if you're that's you're you're father's sister right? is your aunt. What about your brother? His children. 165: They call me aunt. Interviewer: Okay. What do you call them? You say he is my? 165: Nephew. Interviewer: Okay. And what about children who a child who has lost both his father and his mother is called a? He doesn't have a mother or a father maybe he lives in a? #1 An institution # 165: #2 Oh # Oh Interviewer: A what? 165: Orphan oh. Interviewer: Alright. And if a person is appointed to look after an orphan is his you say he's his legal? 165: Guardian. Interviewer: Okay. And if a woman gives a party and invites all the people who are related to her you might say she asked all of her? 165: People. Interviewer: And uh If uh If you're talking about someone and you say yeah she has the same name and maybe she looks a little bit like me but actually I'm at all to her I'm? 165: I don't I'm not any relation to her. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And if someone who comes into town who's never been here before you might say well he's a? He- 165: Stranger. Interviewer: Okay. Uh what about if he's from another country? 165: I'd still say he was a stranger. Interviewer: Stranger? What about the Do you know the word foreigner? 165: Yes. Interviewer: How would you would that 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. 165: Foreigner. Interviewer: Okay. Now here are a few uh A few names What's a real common name for a girl that begins with oh what i- what was Jesus' mother's name? M-? 165: Mary. Interviewer: Okay. Do you remember George Washington's wife? was named there's a Mar-? There's a K I think, Martha? Washington cake do you remember? And uh Martha? 165: I think that's what {X} Martha {X} something like that. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about uh do you remember that song uh Aunt Dinah's quilting party? 165: No. Interviewer: Don't remember that Okay. What about a song that goes Wait 'til the sun shines Don't remember that one either. 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. What about something about uh who did the cow kick in the stomach in the barn? you remember a song that goes like that? 165: No. Interviewer: Alright. What about a nickname for Helen? You know a nickname used for a girl named Helen? 165: No. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. I just need for you to pronounce N-E-L-L-Y then That's a name Ne-? Nelly? 165: Nelly. Interviewer: How? 165: Nelly. Interviewer: Okay. And a little boy who's name is William He might be called for short? Bi-? 165: Billy? Interviewer: Okay. Any other nicknames for William that you think of. 165: Will. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Okay. And uh A goat a male goat is called a? Billy goat now tha- 165: That's right billy goat. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And do you remember In the bible there was Mark and Luke and John The first one of them was Ma-? 165: Matthew. Interviewer: Uh a little louder? 165: Matthew. Interviewer: Okay. And uh a woman who who conducts school is called a? 165: School teacher. Interviewer: Okay. Do you remember an old fashioned word for that? The school? Do you remember when they used to call them school marm 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. And um If a man's name was uh Was uh uh C double O-P-E-R uh Like uh Cooper coop uh You might say his name was George Cooper or Cooper and his wife would be? 165: Ms. Cooper. Interviewer: Who? 165: Ms. George Cooper. Interviewer: Okay. And uh a preacher that's not really trained He doesn't have a regular pulpit but he preaches on Sunday here and there and maybe makes his living doing something else what would you call him He's not a real preacher he's just a? 165: {X} I call them {X} Interviewer: No yeah well we want you tell 165: {NW} {X} They're on the chain gang {NW} Interviewer: And what? 165: {NW} A man on the chain gang and the gospel {NW} Interviewer: Chain gang? 165: That's what they call them Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard the jack leg or jake leg 165: Yea a jackleg preacher. Interviewer: Okay. And what about uh uh if he's a does some have you ever heard it used the doctor? 165: Mm Interviewer: Jackleg doctor? 165: No. Interviewer: No? Okay. And uh here is this this {X} Uh What are the uh different uh terms that are used for black people either that you use yourselves or the white people might use that you know. What uh what do you say we're uh would you say black or colored or 165: I'd say we're Negroes. Interviewer: Okay. And what would uh uh 165: uh all white people Interviewer: Yea And uh what about some joking terms either way. Uh what about White people that are real lazy and uh maybe don't uh have enough energy to work and so forth you say well just 165: They're a lazy cracker. Interviewer: Okay. A cracker for you means uh uh like a white person that doesn't uh 165: {X} A lazy cracker or a {X} cracker something like that. Interviewer: Okay. Any other words like that? Cracker. What about redneck? 165: {X} Interviewer: Uh and uh what about uh a peckerwood. Does that mean a white person to you? 165: No {X} Interviewer: Never u- don't know that word? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. Well what about other words for uh for Negro then that are 165: They'll say you're a sorry Negro. Interviewer: Okay. And uh the kids joking might call each other what? Uh to do with uh color your children or your grandchildren I mean within the family Uh affectionate not uh 165: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 165: call someone call 'em like this {X} Interviewer: Okay. 165: {NW} Interviewer: Okay. And what of a child born of a racially mixed marriage there's one parent be black and the other one be white what would he be called? 165: {NW} They call him a {X} call him Interviewer: alright 165: {X} Interviewer: yea well what about mulatto you ever heard that word? 165: No. Interviewer: No? {NW} What about with one uh with a grandparent maybe that was white or black and the others all one way another word for that? the same? 165: No. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Uh what would uh would you uh uh a long time ago call the man you worked for? 165: Boss man. Interviewer: Okay. Now you talked about uh uh Mr. {B} you used his first name didn't you? Mr. how'd you say it 165: {X} Interviewer: Uh huh and uh his wife you called? 165: Ms. Maybell Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And uh uh what about somebody who is uh This has nothing to do with race white or black who lives way out in the country and just never liked the doesn't seem to have ever gone to town or ever been in any uh large city just is real ignorant maybe what what would they {NS} 165: {X} that man look crazy. Interviewer: Okay. Uh would you use the word hillbilly? 165: {NW} his look 'em old hillbillies Interviewer: Okay. Uh What about the word hoosier or hoojer did you ever hear that? No? Okay. And uh Here's another couple of uh of names uh a girl's name that begins with S Uh Sally is sometimes a nickname for what name? 165: Sal? Interviewer: Okay. or S-? Or Abraham's wife in the bible do you remember her she had a child when she was real old do you remember who that was? S- Sarah. 165: Sarah. Interviewer: How? 165: Sarah. Interviewer: Okay. And the short name or nickname for that is oh there's a bakery goods now cakes are made by? 165: Sarah Lee Interviewer: Lee. You're okay. and the nickname for her might be? I said it a minute ago A nickname for Sarah a short name for her might be? Sa- 165: Sally Interviewer: Okay. And uh if your father had a brother whose name was William you would call him If your father's brother 165: I'd call him Uncle William. Interviewer: Okay. and if his name was John you'd call him? 165: Uncle John. Interviewer: Okay. And um Somebody who's a high officer in the army You'd call uh 165: {X} Interviewer: Okay. or way on up he might be the gen-? 165: John? Interviewer: Okay. Okay. And the guy who introduced Kentucky Fried Chicken? 165: {X} Interviewer: Sanders. 165: {X} Interviewer: Col- 165: Colonel Sanders Interviewer: Okay. And then there is the sergeant and another above the sergeant there is uh ca-? ca-? 165: Captain. Interviewer: Okay. uh would you ever with men that work on the farm maybe ever call the boss captain by any chance? What do you want what do you want me to do now? captain? No? Ah gee alright Okay. Who is the man who uh presides over the county court? He's a j-? 165: He's a judge. Interviewer: Okay. And a person who goes to college to study or goes to school is a? 165: Student? Interviewer: And a person who is employed by a business man to to type letters and this sort is called a S- She can type and take shorthand keep books she's his sec- 165: secretary. Interviewer: How? 165: Secretary. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And the person who appears on in plays or on movies is an? 165: Actor. Interviewer: How? 165: Actor. Interviewer: And uh anyone born in the USA is in a He's not a Mexican he's an Am-? 165: American Interviewer: How? 165: American. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh {X}