Interviewer: now thats her youngest son is now the ones in high school 116: well you know one's married and this one's in college Louis is in college johnny now he's with at home with her I Interviewer: That's right {NS} okay and you were saying that all the ears of corn those little threads are called 116: tops Interviewer: now thats the thing at the top is it what about on the ear the things you clean off 116: cobs Interviewer: okay the cob is the things goes in the middle and in the grain in the ears of corn the little thread like things the 116: {D: Call that shuckets you know} Interviewer: alright and under the shuck between the shuck and the 116: corn that's where the top is You got to pick them out Interviewer: okay 116: they've got hair you know Interviewer: okay what about a large round fruit that grows on the ground and you make pie of it thanksgiving or the kids like to make a face on um the big round thing like this 116: Squash it's not squash Interviewer: Pum- 116: but it's not squash it's a pumpkin Interviewer: okay and uh do you have a lot of different kinds of squash 116: yep I got a white kind and yellow kind but the yellow kinds the best Interviewer: what about different kinds of melon 116: watermelons yeah they have there's plenty of different kinds of watermelons we used to raise a pound of them every watermelon Interviewer: would that be the kind that are stripped or the kinds solid 116: they solid green all over but now they got a strip i think its back where its just as good but we always use another kind Interviewer: did you just say the green melons #1 were and the others were the stripped ones # 116: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: what about one that's not a watermelon and the meat it's yellow 116: well that's cantaloupe Interviewer: okay now you ever heard that called anything else 116: I call them cantaloupes Interviewer: okay 116: All we ever called them, yeah. Interviewer: okay what are the things the little uh things that they grow just like over night out in the woods or out in the fields little umbrella shaped things that uh um people sometimes eat and sometimes they grow on fallen logs um a uh mushrooms 116: yes mushrooms Interviewer: did you ever cook them 116: we named it something else and we'd have it cooking with something else goes on the ground and you can eat them they're really good now it's just a little bitty thing Interviewer: mm-hmm 116: And they used to grow in the cabbage patch but when you caught um and sprung um off the vine but I don't know what they are not a mushroom I don't know I can't Interviewer: #1 well if you thing of it write it down # 116: #2 yeah I can't think of it right now # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # Interviewer: okay uh okay mushrooms were the kind that 116: mushrooms that must have been what I was thinking about Interviewer: #1 uh-uh # 116: #2 mushrooms # Interviewer: and what about the kind that you have to that that look like mushrooms but you don't eat them they're not ones you don't eat it's not good to eat you might call it and say that's not a mushroom thats just a toadstool or or something like that you hear that used a toadstool or frogstool 116: doesn't mean anything to me Interviewer: okay uh and if a man had uh uh swore throat and his throat was all swollen too you might say well he couldn't eat because he couldn't the food he couldn't 116: swallow Interviewer: okay and uh uh what do some people smoke what things 116: cigarettes Interviewer: or if their bigger the 116: cigar Interviewer: okay 116: I can answer them #1 cause I don't use them # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 116: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # okay and if there are a lot of people at the party they are all standing around the piano what would they be doing 116: singing Interviewer: and um uh if they were uh uh moving around real fast on their feet you'd say they were singing 116: yes dancing Interviewer: okay and 116: Not particularly dancing but they was keeping time Interviewer: okay and if a somebody offers to do you a favor and uh you say I appreciate it but I don't want to be to anybody involved okay but if you want to tell somebody that you want more for being their dead {D} would you say I don't want to be obligated or I don't want to be beholden 116: i don't Interviewer: would ya would you say would you be more likely to say that 116: yes Interviewer: which one I don't want to be beholden or I don't want to be obligated 116: i wouldn't want to be obligated Interviewer: and um um somebody asks if you can do a certain job and you might say well sure I 116: do it Interviewer: okay but if um if they ask if somebody says can you and you say no I 116: can't Interviewer: okay and um and if somebody says to you about about sundown to do something and and you um say I got up early this morning and um I've all day how would you say that 116: worked all day Interviewer: okay 116: sun up to sundown Interviewer: okay would you say I done worked to mean its already been done I done worked all day 116: Mm-hmm Interviewer: okay uh if your talking about some of your old friends who are still alive and you all come back safe to Shiloh or somewhere and you might say well I've been out there looking around for all for a lot of old school friends they seems that there 116: gone Interviewer: alright um uh how would you say that uh would you ever say they're done dead 116: passed away Interviewer: passed away and what about if a um if there had been um and accident and somebody had been badly hurt and you tried to go help and maybe you call the doctor and you might say um theres no need to call a doctor because man was 116: passed out Interviewer: alright hes already dead or done dead when he got there if um if you want us to say the somebody needs to be careful about it say well he aught to be careful or should be careful 116: should be careful Interviewer: okay would you ever say he longs to be longs to be careful 116: no I'd say he ought to be Interviewer: okay and um if um if one boy is daring another one to do something how would you say it you don't dare do it or you dare not do it have you ever used to the word dare ever 116: yes Interviewer: how would you say that 116: I'd say I dare you to do it Interviewer: okay and uh uh if you if you want to say well somebody aught to do something what would be just the other way he its not something he aught to do something he aught 116: that you don't do Interviewer: okay he aught not he oughtn't how would you say that to do something you shouldn't 116: he ought to do it Interviewer: okay and 116: something needed Interviewer: okay but if he should not do it you might say oh he 116: not going to do it Interviewer: alright he oughtn't do that or he shouldn't do that uh what about if a boy got a whipping you'd say I bet he did something he 116: ought not to Interviewer: okay uh and if some if someone wants you to do something that you don't want to do and they say will you do it you say no I 116: won't Interviewer: and uh 116: sometimes he'd go ahead and do it anyway Interviewer: right 116: {NW} Interviewer: and do you uh if you get something done that was real hard work and you had to do it all by your self and somebody was just standing around without helping you might say well you 116: aught to be doing something Interviewer: okay uh you might have helped me have you ever said might you have might have helped me if you wanted to 116: {NW} Interviewer: say that 116: you coulda done it Interviewer: okay um would you ever say might have 116: Mm-hmm Interviewer: uh 116: you coulda helped uh-huh mm Interviewer: okay uh 116: I don't ever say nothing like {D: but if you do mine that'll be enough} Interviewer: oh okay um if someone asks you about doing something in the future but you don't know if you'll be able to or not you say well it's possible you might would you say well I might could do it 116: I'll do it if I can Interviewer: alright uh what about what kind of bird is it thats supposed to be out at night in the when he's in the dark supposed to be maybe makes a kind of a hoo noise 116: I don't know Interviewer: its supposed to be a flying bird or a one that makes a hoot noise 116: I don't know I don't ever heard it at night but I don't know the name of it Interviewer: okay uh there are different kinds of owls 116: oh yeah Interviewer: what about 116: you know owls used to be bad Interviewer: really 116: they would catch the chickens and things they sure did Interviewer: I didn't know that 116: yes sir hawks too Interviewer: yeah #1 uh you remember # 116: #2 there's owls used to be down there # Interviewer: oh well that's nice {D} you remember any different kinds of owls 116: {NS} No just one kind an owl {X} {D: there goes and partridges} things like that Interviewer: okay uh did you uh did you ever hear it called a screech owl 116: yeah Interviewer: how's that 116: {D: it's like a cursed horse} I couldn't tell ya how it is but they make a different fuss from a regular bird Interviewer: yeah and what kind is that 116: what'd you say it was screech owl Interviewer: was it a screech owl I was okay 116: they holler at night Interviewer: okay what about he kind of bird that drills a hole in a tree 116: um thats a mockingbird ain't it Interviewer: okay um uh wood pecker or 116: wood pecker wood pecker Interviewer: you ever hear um called a pecker wood 116: it's wood pecker thats what they call it Interviewer: #1 okay # 116: #2 now if # Interviewer: #1 okay # 116: #2 you named it # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # Interviewer: what about some kind of an animal thats black and white and supposed to have a real strong smell 116: goat Interviewer: okay a little bitty animal and that yet you know in the house you just can't leave the house for awhile sometimes you run over them in the country in a car 116: what do ya mean by that Interviewer: a black a long tail and a little white and white streak down the back 116: I see that everyday but I don't remember the name of it Interviewer: #1 you'd call it a # 116: #2 I'd call it a possum # Interviewer: #1 and now um # 116: #2 not a squirrel # that's it Interviewer: you ever hear um called a pole cat 116: uh-huh Interviewer: which one would you be more likely #1 to say # 116: #2 I'd say # I'd say pole cat Interviewer: okay {NS} now what what other kind of animals besides owls might get your chickens and you gotta worry about um 116: hawks Interviewer: okay aw have you got any a name that means all the things that might get the chickens like you might well I gotta go face up the chickens so the son's of 116: Rats will get them Interviewer: okay what about varmint vars you ever say uh like shut up the #1 chickens # 116: #2 nope # I lets see possums possums will catch chickens Interviewer: okay did you ever use the word varmints #1 you don't use the word varmints # 116: #2 no I didn't # Interviewer: and you don't know a what they were or had any other meaning varmints 116: I don't believe I have Interviewer: okay now what what bout different kinds of squirrels 116: do what Interviewer: what about different kinds of squirrels 116: I don't know about what kind the regular old kind we have yeah I don't know what the name of it is Interviewer: okay um what about a little bitty thing that looks kinda like a squirrel on it and it was real small 116: rats Interviewer: okay chipmunks you have any chipmunks around here 116: there's womp rats too and they're about that's the meanest thing you can have Interviewer: they're bigger aren't they 116: uh-huh they eat your corn and everything else around the house Interviewer: okay you ever heard of anything called a gopher 116: I've heard of a gopher Interviewer: whats that 116: ain't it one of these things that's flat and has all on the inside there and they'd stick their head out now Interviewer: okay uh like a turtle 116: uh-huh Interviewer: uh-uh um okay now what kind of fish are around here 116: well there's trout I don't know fish Interviewer: you never 116: trouts I mean Interviewer: okay and what is it that comes from the the ocean that its got a shell on it the you get it out and they used to say it used to have a pearl in it 116: {X} something that comes out of a shell Interviewer: mm-hmm but you oysters do you eat oysters 116: could be oysters but I don't eat um Interviewer: okay um what about those things that make a noise around the pond at night croak croak croak or something like that and hop you know 116: grasshopper Interviewer: well uh 116: well it's not exactly croak so Interviewer: okay those that croak you know sometimes they say {D: diggarung diggarung} #1 you hear that {NS} # 116: #2 {NS} yeah maybe {NS} # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # Interviewer: frogs different kinds of frogs 116: oh frogs uh Interviewer: what about the big ones the biggest ones bull frogs 116: bullfrogs yeah Interviewer: what about little green ones you might have seen out in the garden 116: frog there frogs there Interviewer: what about a toad is that something 116: bullfrog Interviewer: okay and uh the things that people use for fish bait 116: worms Interviewer: okay and um what other kinds of worms might you see out in the yard 116: {X} I tell you in a can of this old fish bait and they'd be about that long Interviewer: okay 116: {X} back then Interviewer: uh-uh 116: the get in the ground and it'd rain they'd be gone next day they ran loose Interviewer: and uh is um a terrapin do you use the word terrapin mini turtles around here whats the difference their about the same 116: I haven't seen all that many in my life I don't care for how they look but I've heard of um Interviewer: okay and what about something that you may find in um in the little rivers or streams that swim backwards 116: yup I don't know what that thing is Interviewer: have you heard of crawfish crawdads 116: crawfish is what we call um Interviewer: #1 now what about and I'm sure if you could see it # 116: #2 and I'd of named it # Interviewer: around water 116: and I'm not around water Interviewer: uh-uh what about another seafood that people like to eat and it's a curved shape little shell on um and you can buy them now in packages they're already dipped in batter shrimp you ever use 116: mm-hmm Interviewer: you cook them 116: mm-hmm I cook them Interviewer: hmm what's that how do you say that 116: shrimp Interviewer: okay uh what about what do you call that insect that flies around the light maybe and they always they attracted to the light 116: they're not lighting bugs lighting bugs those fly on the outside Interviewer: yeah 116: lighting bugs you know they carry light Interviewer: light flame bug {D} 116: mm-hmm Interviewer: and what about that one that sometimes eats uh wool 116: that's moths Interviewer: #1 uh-uh and you use right # 116: #2 you use moth balls on them # Interviewer: okay 116: that's what we do now we do that now long time in room our clothes we put up let the moths in they'd eat them up Interviewer: right well do you use that word for that bug that flies around the light too is it all those 116: no I don't Interviewer: moths you talk about moths flying into the light 116: I don't remember what you call them things but they sure are bad here in the dark Interviewer: okay now what about a candle fly you ever heard that 116: {NW} call them that candle flies bad if they get in big flies too Interviewer: uh-uh 116: they get in my porch out there and I kill a lot of them out there Interviewer: and 116: I think maybe they've been doing that for some time Interviewer: yeah um what about an insect who that you uh you used to see around the water ponds and and streams out on the fire and they have long thin bodies and two pairs of wings and it hovers around damp places and they say it eats mosquitoes a lot sometimes people will say that their a sign that snakes are around 116: mm-hmm and the problem with that is rattlesnakes are bad Interviewer: yeah uh do remember any kind of a a bug or an insect that used to be around the ponds 116: not a mosquito no Interviewer: no its bigger than a mosquito ah um let me read off some of these names and see if you remember any of these uh dragonfly or snake doctor or snake feeder or a mosquito hawk or a dark 116: skeeter now that I have heard of that Interviewer: is a skeet a hawk 116: yeah Interviewer: #1 yes is that what you is that something that about this long with # 116: #2 mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # and there's another bug called and he's in town the great mounder might know about that and it's big and you know it cause it stuck round the house and it ate all your flowers and things Interviewer: yeah 116: and we used to call um grasshoppers but they's too big for grasshoppers Interviewer: now what color are they 116: the same thing same color but its a different uh thing but I don't have a name for it a name for the thing Interviewer: more like green or like black 116: kind of a black Interviewer: uh-uh 116: I kill them out here get them and kill them with poison but they're they're they're about that long and about that big around the great big there's no small time Interviewer: like its some kind of a grasshopper 116: mm-hmm it looks like a grasshopper Interviewer: okay what kind of stinging insects do you know uh maybe one that builds a big nest like paper out in the woods 116: that's wasp ain't it Interviewer: okay how's that 116: wasp Interviewer: uh-uh and any other 116: they get in their in their trees I mean uh trees around the house that's wasps for ya they used to call um cause they'd run down round here and in the guest house killed one out on that porch yesterday Interviewer: okay what about the {NW} on that'd build a big nest like this that they got out int the woods shaped like a football 116: I don't know they go into pecan trees and I never have they pass out they have that there in their {X} a bunch of young and I've got um down out of trees many times and I don't even look Interviewer: and they have a bad sting don't they 116: uh-huh Interviewer: hornet you ever hear um called hornet 116: it might be a hornet Interviewer: okay 116: I know I got some out of the trees over here last fall took a long stick and got them down and burned them up done it when I was in the country Interviewer: okay what about any other kind of uh something like a wasp only it doesn't sting but it builds a nest like a wasp does 116: you'd have to call it some names Interviewer: uh what about a dirt dog or a 116: dirt dog is it yeah dirt dog Interviewer: yeah and they around around here 116: yeah they're around here Interviewer: okay 116: there's everything around here but money Interviewer: okay {NW} 116: thats they one thing I can't name cause there's so many new ones Interviewer: what about some kind of an insect that builds itself a nest in the ground that maybe fill the holes and come out and they might sting you 116: you know we {D: doddle doddle} we used to take something around around {D: doddle doddle doddle} {D: doddle doddle} when we was kids I don't hear them now we used to do it Interviewer: alright that one didn't sting did it did it sting 116: uh uh uh it didn't sting Interviewer: #1 uh-uh # 116: #2 just a boo # Interviewer: uh-uh uh you have yellow jackets around here 116: yeah we have yellow jackets yeah I got one Interviewer: okay you ever hear a mosquito called anything besides mosquito 116: no I hadn't Interviewer: and 116: this is her she went into town this morning Interviewer: usually they live around water they say 116: they do but since so many people round here don't care they just pour anywhere they don't care about water yes and it's plum green over there and they had a whole lot of um reeds back here and they just live back there but I can always tell where they had reeds because about where they come they cut all those things down and we don't have so many anymore now you can't sit down on the porches every evening late in the evening Interviewer: you don't take care of your lawn do you you have somebody come in and 116: no I cut my grass myself Interviewer: well it sure does look pretty 116: mm-hmm my predecessor hadn't moved out when I moved in and around then it was really pretty it's real green around there and here and since the water washes it off so much in the morning it goes down Interviewer: okay uh 116: I'm sore and stiff from when I work down there Interviewer: {NW} 116: take my blood pressure {X} Interviewer: oh um now we're talking about the grasshoppers you ever hear people call them hopper grass 116: um no Interviewer: okay 116: there may be a new name now but there's always grasshoppers Interviewer: okay and what about very very small insect take sometimes burrows down your skin and makes a little place and they raise a welt and you walk in the woods and you may get them on your legs and they get under your clothes very tiny uh sometimes they're red but they are so small I just can't see them 116: I don't know what they are Interviewer: Uh Oh red bugs is that 116: red bugs Interviewer: #1 then you know it maybe # 116: #2 mm-hmm # uh-huh they stick to you Interviewer: right okay 116: they'll sure make ya swell up too if you get a bunch of them on you to Interviewer: and um do you know where the around here if people go fishing and use those little tiny fish that you get what do you call them minnows fish bait 116: what do they call them things they use in lots of fish bait Interviewer: shiners 116: ain't no catching um those little ones now cause the places where they're raising you know Interviewer: you ever heard um called shiners 116: I believe I have I believe I've heard that Interviewer: okay and what do you find maybe stretched across the path in the early morning or maybe in the corner of the room if it hasn't been cleaned a little tiny thread like little 116: that's a web Interviewer: okay 116: called it a web Interviewer: and is is it different the same thing if you if it's outside like in the grass or from the branch of a tree 116: sometimes it is {D: it there and there and all but you could} but you see um there and you see um in the rest of the country Interviewer: and uh what how are they made what makes them the webs or 116: the ones that are making webs Interviewer: mm-hmm 116: well you can um #1 what is the name of them things # Interviewer: #2 spiders # 116: they're web looking in the corners sometimes Interviewer: spider webs 116: it's spider Interviewer: okay 116: cause you can see them in the web and you kill them and they're not so very big the small things spider webs Interviewer: okay and the part of the tree that's down under the ground it's called the 116: root Interviewer: and uh do they use or do you remember that they used to use any kind of different kinds of plant roots for medicines 116: oh yeah and that we was married it must have been {D: while I was out there I was having chills} and my husband's mother she barely went to school a day in her life and she went out when I was having chills and couldn't get um stopped and she went out to the woods and some kind of root and I don't know what the name of it was it made me a tea of it and and she broke up the chills Interviewer: is that right 116: she could do that for anything Interviewer: different kinds 116: mm-hmm different things she'd go out in the woods and dig up roots she know um but we wouldn't Interviewer: mm-hmm you don't remember any of the names like that like ginseng seems like 116: No I never of that Interviewer: okay um 116: she never did tell me I done forgot it it's been so long it's been seventy years Interviewer: Sure and what about a kind of tree that you could tap to get uh uh uh a syrup to make to make syrup from i think they did that mostly up north they called it uh kind of maple syrup uh and they would boil it down and make sugar always did it in the winter 116: what's the name of that we got some of it some but we used to we didn't like it whats the name of that Interviewer: uh 116: syrup Interviewer: maple sugar maple syrup 116: it may be I won't say for sure but it may be but Interviewer: and uh if there were a big uh if there was a big group of trees somewhere would it'd be likely you'd say over in that that uh uh that grove of trees or over in that orchard you'd use the word grove 116: that well maybe we got some groves in the woods Interviewer: mm-hmm and groves okay and what about a tree that uh that had broad leaves and they're all shedding at one time and the bark that peels off and it leaves little barbs and knobs on the 116: that's a magnolia tree isn't it Interviewer: the magnolias #1 big big leaves uh-uh # 116: #2 big big leaves # Interviewer: and it has a pretty white bloom on it 116: uh-huh and they sure do smell good there's one of um right down the street here Interviewer: and this one is uh is not not the magnolia the one I'm wondering about is the uh the tall tree with long white limbs uh Syc- Sycamore you ever hear of Sycamores 116: yeah I've heard of sycamores Interviewer: how do you say it 116: sycamore I believe that's what it is I've seen um but I don't know where to look Interviewer: what are some other kinds of trees like that you might have out here or out on the farm 116: well we didn't have many we had apple trees and um fruit trees out on the farm and all such as that we had apples and peaches and everything you could get get out there Interviewer: what about other trees that might be out in the woods 116: that's these pines pine trees Interviewer: okay 116: they ought to make lumber out here Interviewer: okay what about some kind of a shrub or a bush and it's leaves become very red in the fall and some people when they touch it it sort of break out and they say it's poisonous to them 116: it's not poison ivy is it Interviewer: uh um there is a poison ivy isn't it and this one is bigger than that you ever hear of Sumac or Sumac or Sumac something like that 116: I don't believe I've ever heard of that Interviewer: don't think It'd be around 116: sure don't Interviewer: okay and um uh do you have much poison ivy 116: yeah we have a lot out there right next to the uh the fence down on that side right out there is poison ivy Interviewer: {NW} uh and is it more in a bush or a vine #1 or a okay # 116: #2 vine vine # Well it'll spread anywhere poison ivy will Interviewer: uh-uh okay what about different kinds of berries 116: light berries huckleberries Interviewer: huckleberries is that common around here 116: not now they used to be you'd go to the woods and pick um in the woods just like you could do they'd grow up about that high and just be out theres you'd just get a minute out of them or in the swamps or the woods where there's more of them Interviewer: and would you make 116: make pies out of um you'd make good pies Interviewer: I've never had that 116: mm-hmm they're little bitty things Interviewer: uh-uh what about the different kinds of berries you'd get in the grocery store 116: well I don't know if I ever found that Interviewer: you get strawberries occasionally 116: I can if I bought um but I get um out in the country Interviewer: Is that where you were raised 116: {D: by John} you know they'd grow down on the ground Interviewer: what about uh raspberries 116: I've heard of raspberries but I never had no Interviewer: um uh what about some berries that might grow in the woods but are not good to eat and uh 116: cherries cherries would grow in the woods Interviewer: wild cherries 116: we'd have a bunch of horses get drunk on sometimes in our pastures Interviewer: really 116: there'd come the wind and blow them down and they'd be out there so long {B} I was sick off um and I'd get um to grab it by the collar and we were all lying around {X} scared to death and that night we done got sober Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 116: #2 that syrup they got # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # and after he found that out he'd say you been eating them cherries over there Interviewer: how about that 116: they were little bitty red things Interviewer: mm uh what about uh something like uh a poke berry is that uh 116: well that's a poke berry they they grow up tall and have big leaves Interviewer: uh-uh 116: they don't grow stiff like pine tree of nothing like that you know different mm-hmm Interviewer: light blue shell okay 116: some people eat them when you cook when there #1 yum yeah # Interviewer: #2 the leaves right # 116: #1 you know # Interviewer: #2 like mustard # 116: #1 just like them turnips # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 116: {X} they used to go around the woods and get um and they'd cook but I never had um Interviewer: you'd never feast 116: no I'd never feast because I always had turnips and these people you know didn't have um live close to me they'd go off and get um and cook But I'd give them turnips but they gonna try if they liked it Interviewer: mm-hmm 116: they was from the north I think Interviewer: okay what about uh and other person of course there are no mountains out here do you have any sort of bush that's called Lyle a flowering shrub 116: nothing I know of Interviewer: um what about rhododendron are you familiar with that as a flower then again it is a northern one, rhododendron 116: I never have heard of them yeah Interviewer: yeah I think 116: when I was growing up I didn't hear of um Interviewer: I think that's maybe up in the mountains 116: like on the tips Interviewer: okay and uh what word would you use uh uh to talk or tell somebody oh you must be if a married woman doesn't want to make up her mind she'd might say well I just don't really know I better ask my 116: sir Interviewer: any uh any other way she might say my husband like my ol' man or 116: well sometimes you can say my old man and leave the old man a lot Interviewer: okay what about my mister 116: we used to say around here don't do that Interviewer: aha okay um and a man would say well I was asking my 116: wife Interviewer: okay are uh another woman with a much 116: might talk to some other man call um up together and they'd get together and they'd talk Interviewer: sure 116: just like we'd get together about cooking things out there Interviewer: okay and the woman whose lost her husband is called a 116: widow Interviewer: and a man whose wife is dead is a 116: widower Interviewer: okay 116: well I tell ya I hate talking to tell you something I read in Aggie last night well my momma she had a piece of that paper in there I wish I had it oh hold on she had um well I didn't need to my daughter had a baby and her husband stayed in the bedroom with his mother and law and they went up in there alone to lift that long bed Interviewer: in the news paper today 116: In the Aggies Interviewer: oh my 116: yes and there's the newspaper Interviewer: {NW} 116: I wish I had any they'd be it at all Interviewer: probably wouldn't hurt a lot 116: just thought I'd tell you Interviewer: she is I didn't see the paper yesterday and uh what did what did you call your father did you say daddy or father or 116: well I'm not sure I always {B} daddy and everybody would call him daddy Interviewer: and what did you call your father 116: papa Interviewer: okay uh and your grandfather 116: grandfather Interviewer: okay and your other 116: granddaddy Interviewer: uh-uh and your grand and your uh 116: grandmother Interviewer: okay and your mother you called her 116: called her mom Interviewer: uh-uh and your grand children they call their father 116: oh uh they call him grand granddaddy now used to they'd call him papa Interviewer: and you have a son that has children 116: he has two Interviewer: and uh what does he what do his children call him 116: daddy Interviewer: okay 116: they didn't do it old times now they just call him papa change that to daddy there was momma then Interviewer: gotcha okay any other words pop and pa did you used to use them or hear um used in someone else's home 116: uh-huh Interviewer: but you said papa 116: yeah Interviewer: okay and your mother and father together are called your 116: call um momma and papa Interviewer: uh-uh they're your 116: mom and daddy Interviewer: are your parents how how do you say that 116: yeah you say parents Interviewer: okay 116: my parents Interviewer: and uh if you're talking about both your son and your daughters and use just one word you'd say my 116: son Interviewer: yes and if your daughter 116: daughter uh-uh Interviewer: you might say my children 116: mm-hmm Interviewer: have you 116: sometimes I'll say my kids Interviewer: okay any other words anything that that old people used to call um besides kids would your grandfather maybe say or talk about would he say the kids or would he have said 116: sometimes he'd say my kids then he might say my grandchild Interviewer: uh-uh what about words like younguns the younguns do people say that around here and what's the word for something with wheels on it that might push a baby in 116: go carts you could call um go carts a carriage or Interviewer: okay and if your saying that your gonna take that baby out in the go cart or carriage you say well I'm gonna go 116: take ride the baby there Interviewer: okay if you're talking about your children what word would you use to say now that's now John is the most mature of them you'd say he's the most uh grown up of my boys how would you say that maybe you would just use the word grown up 116: I think you could Interviewer: okay {NW} 116: you'll have to help me out Interviewer: well that you know uh 116: I can't think their face Interviewer: uh that's fine if you'd talk about your children you'd say well I've got uh what two sons 116: one son Interviewer: one son and 116: two two daughters Interviewer: oh and uh if a woman is going to have a child you'd say she's 116: pregnant Interviewer: and do you remember any old ways of how people might have said that anything else You ever heard of anything like in health or anything sorta kinda joking term like she's a foot broke or maybe broke her leg to say she has a baby nope 116: no I never Interviewer: okay and if you don't have a doctor to deliver a baby the woman you might have would be called a 116: midwife Interviewer: okay and you say your babies were delivered by doctors 116: a doctor mm-hmm Interviewer: and if a boy an his father have made it the same eyes and the same color hair 116: say they favor Interviewer: and if a woman has taken care of three children until their grown you say well she three children she's 116: she's raised three children Interviewer: okay and if a child has been bad you're gonna say your gonna get a 116: switching Interviewer: okay or uh if it was gonna not be with a switch but with your hand you might say it's gonna be 116: paddle Interviewer: okay and uh if you measure one of your grandchildren you say well uh you are uh four feet and five inches tall thats three inches taller than you were last year you have really 116: grown Interviewer: hows that 116: grown Interviewer: okay 116: that's what we used to say I don't know what they say now Interviewer: #1 they don't mention it anymore # 116: #2 none of um are around no more # Interviewer: alright 116: they Interviewer: and what about a child whose mother and father are not married what is they word that you'd use for 116: um what is that Interviewer: or any word that uh um it might be a joking word even you could say that's an illegitimate child 116: that's what they say Interviewer: uh-uh and have you ever heard the word bastard 116: yeah Interviewer: is that 116: thats the old style the old saying Interviewer: okay you remember any other words 116: no i don't Interviewer: okay um maybe just any words that would apply to black people or a baby whose mother is not married 116: I've never really heard of that kind of man Interviewer: yes 116: just on the news niggers there's that any man Interviewer: okay not that I've heard um okay and if you're talking about uh a child whose very affectionate you might say well she is uh she is uh very loving and if you're talking about somebody else you'd say well she's even more she's the most she is the {D: loviest} how would you say that how one is much more than the other 116: I don't know how I would say it ever hear somebody described as that maybe as sweet as she can be Interviewer: you might say she's the {D: loviest} child 116: yes there she is Interviewer: how would you say that? most loving or {D: loviest} 116: most loving child I reckon because I don't know how else to put it Interviewer: okay 116: she knew people but when she comes over here she was but five years old Interviewer: is there uh 116: and she'd come over here and raise my gate Interviewer: oh well that's nice little children are 116: sweet kid Interviewer: right and uh your brother's son you'd say he's my 116: nephew Interviewer: and uh if uh a child is lost both it's mother and it's father is a or orphan 116: orphan yeah Interviewer: how's that 116: orphan Interviewer: okay and uh does that word mean only if he is in a home or an institution or could it mean if he's with another 116: I believe it would go with that I believe if it's mother and father weren't had passed away Interviewer: okay and uh a person uh who is appointed to take care of an orphan is called it's 116: guardian Interviewer: okay and uh if a woman is going to have lets say a big dinner and in the light off of all the people who are related to her you might say she asked all of her 116: family reunion Interviewer: okay would you be more likely to say kin folks or kin people 116: sometimes maybe Interviewer: or relatives 116: relatives ought to be the main thing Interviewer: okay uh an if your talking about someone up the street uh her name's {B} but she's no 116: candy man Interviewer: okay and if someone come into town and never been there before and the people you know don't quite know him then I'd say well he's a 116: new fella in town Interviewer: okay would you ever use the word foreigner 116: no I never have Interviewer: okay 116: you just say new Interviewer: okay what about a common name for a girl that begins with an m or Jesus's mother's name was 116: um Interviewer: in the bible Jesus's mother's name was m 116: Mary Interviewer: okay and uh 116: {D: the rings right on the yard} Interviewer: yes ma'am there's a whole lot of proper names I'm gonna ask you about another name for a girl that starts with an m or a woman not Mary but George Washington's wife I think there's a cape with maybe um Margaret maybe 116: I don't know Mary Interviewer: mm-kay and what about a nickname that starts with an n there used to be a song uh wait till the sun shines 116: mm Interviewer: and then uh there's uh there's song about Aunt Dina quilt party I was seeing mm-mm 116: like she had a nickname Interviewer: uh uh what about uh uh a song or story that uh talking about who did the cow kick in the stomach in the barn you remember something like that 116: well I've never heard that Interviewer: okay have you ever heard of a nickname for the name Helen 116: No I haven't Interviewer: okay 116: I know a lot of Helen but I never heard no nicknames Interviewer: what about Nelly? 116: Nelly? Interviewer: is that nickname for anybody else 116: I think I'd call her Nell I think straight Nell instead of Nelly. Interviewer: okay and a nickname for a boy named William what might you call him 116: um bob Interviewer: okay {X} what about bill or billy 116: well it may be billy instead of bobby I'm not sure Interviewer: hows that 116: maybe bill Interviewer: alright 116: instead of Interviewer: uh 116: I believe it is Interviewer: uh what about another nickname for a will if William is just shortened of will you ever hear that his name is William we call him 116: Will Interviewer: uh-uh um w uh what about the male goat you know the the the female goats a nanny goat the male is a you say billy goat 116: that's what we call him billy goat Interviewer: okay and uh in the uh in the bible there were uh these four men that wrote the first four books there was the other three was mark, and Luke and John and the first one's name was a man named Matt Matthew 116: yeah Matthew Interviewer: mm-kay and what about a woman that conducts a school that keeps a school she's a 116: teacher Interviewer: okay did you you used to call her teacher or did you have any other words for you remember for it a school mom or school missus 116: no teacher when we was growing up then we'd call um teacher but we'd call them by their names might could be Ms. {B} I went to school with her names like that for some of the school teachers yes I just say Ms. {B} Interviewer: okay is there anybody around here who's last name is cooper or cooper you know that 116: it's Ms. cooper {B} that's what her name {B} that's the only one that I know Interviewer: alright but her okay {B} 116: her husband's dead Interviewer: okay ah what about uh a preacher who's not really trained and who doesn't have a regular pulpit but maybe just preaches here or there 116: {D: a supply kin preacher} Interviewer: okay have you ever heard anybody like that called a jack league preacher 116: yeah I heard that Interviewer: uh what about uh somebody that has a trade that you just kind of learn would you use jack league like you do with a a blacksmith or a mechanic 116: mechanic I'd say would be mechanic working on calls and things Interviewer: would you ever if he's not really trained would you call him what would call you and say he's a jack 116: well that'd be just about right Interviewer: you never heard jackleg? 116: no Interviewer: okay 116: some young jack league we got fixing on that call that's what I'd say Interviewer: you ever hear anybody say he's a jack league lawyer or a jack league doctor 116: yeah yeah they about anybody like that Interviewer: okay he's just jackleg means really not trying 116: if you don't mind him then half the time he's alright Interviewer: okay and your mother's sister you would say she's my 116: aunt Interviewer: and uh back in the bible again Abraham do you remember Abraham's wife was S- 116: There's so many in there that I honestly can't Interviewer: like a bunch of um I might have forgotten so much of this do you remember any of your young friends Sarah or Sarhie 116: I don't remember terribly Interviewer: okay 116: you know there are so many names in there when you read it you go over it and you go back over it and still can't let it just drop Interviewer: sure what about a bakery product something lee's pies 116: blackberry pie Interviewer: or different kinds of pastries Sarah lee you ever hear of a Sarah lee pastry advertised on the T-V see it in the store 116: yes I heard it on the T-V but I never never see it in stores I never get food like that never Interviewer: right how do they call it on T-V Sarah Lee they say Sarah lee or Sarah lee you say it for me 116: Sarah lee I reckon Interviewer: okay 116: that's what we put in Interviewer: okay 116: whether it's right or not Interviewer: uh if your father had a brother whose name was William you'd probably call him then 116: Bill Interviewer: um but he's your father's brother put something in front of it you might say he's my 116: i don't know Interviewer: not your husband's brother your father's brother 116: oh Interviewer: you say so she's my aunt and he's my 116: uncle Interviewer: okay and his name were John you'd say well hello heres 116: uncle john Interviewer: okay how um okay and uh do remember back when you were talking about the civil war the war between the states the who was the general of the southern forces and the high school over in Tomson is named for him 116: I don't know that Interviewer: yeah uh Robert E Lee high school over in Tomson I thought you might have heard of that because the football games but he was uh and 116: invitations to the football Interviewer: sure 116: better in line Interviewer: okay but the head man in the army is uh g- 116: what is he on I know that Interviewer: general general 116: general Interviewer: how 116: general horse Interviewer: okay and the man who introduced the Kentucky Fried Chicken 116: cook that Interviewer: yes but uh you remember on the the bucket you know the big sign get some of 116: Kentucky Fried Chicken Interviewer: yeah who was it who started Kentucky Fried Chicken his last name was Sanders and they a title in front of that what's the chow say Colonel Sanders 116: I don't know what the thing is Interviewer: okay 116: cause I don't have food anymore Interviewer: right 116: I tried um one time tasted like wet chicken stripes #1 I never # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 116: so I never tried none of it Interviewer: that doesn't sound very good does it 116: mm cause I used to raise chickens Interviewer: I bet you made it good too okay but then {NS} what are some other army ranks besides general do you think of any you know he's not a private he's a 116: {D: major} Interviewer: oh you might say a major or 116: #1 uh-uh major # Interviewer: #2 would you ever say captain # or captain 116: captain uh-uh Interviewer: okay and colonel 116: colonel yeah Interviewer: how's that 116: colonel go with it too Interviewer: okay 116: any of them Interviewer: and uh uh the man who presides over the cabinet in court {D} is the 116: jury Interviewer: how 116: jury Interviewer: alright and the person that goes to college is a he's a he's studying in college you say well he's a a college 116: student Interviewer: okay {NW} {NW} excuse me and the person who is employed by the business man to oh type his letters and answer the telephone is a 116: secretary treasurer Interviewer: and a woman who okay and a woman who appears in plays or movies is a not an actor but a 116: an actor Interviewer: if it's a man we call him an actor if its a woman we call her an actress actress 116: there Interviewer: how you say 116: say actress Interviewer: how 116: actress whatever you call um Interviewer: okay and anybody that is born in the united states is we say well he's not a Mexican he's an 116: united states Interviewer: okay or you use American 116: yeah American Interviewer: and 116: he's American Interviewer: okay and um um do you are there any other words to that that white people use to describe black people that we might not have talked about 116: niggers Interviewer: okay anything else 116: that's what they called um back then was niggers Interviewer: that's all you ever called um okay have you ever heard anybody use anything else 116: but for niggers maybe I heard um called coloreds Interviewer: okay 116: coloreds Interviewer: okay and uh {NS} {NW} um the people who are not negroes like us you'd say well that there negroes are we're 116: white Interviewer: okay any other words for uh white person maybe someone who's poor or lazy but is white would you have a word for them he's just a 116: just don't work Interviewer: okay 116: {D: quit it} Interviewer: what about uh um do you use the word white trash 116: sometime people do Interviewer: right what about uh cracker does a cracker mean somebody don't work her or does it mean use the word Georgia cracker or 116: Georgia cracker Interviewer: that just mean somebody who lives in this state 116: mm-hmm Interviewer: #1 does it necessarily # 116: #2 mm-hmm Georgia cracker # Interviewer: okay it doesn't mean that they're lazy or won't work that's just 116: just mean they're Interviewer: from here not from Alabama okay uh {NW} did uh did mr {B} have colored people work for him sometimes 116: oh yeah we'd work niggers all the times on the farm Interviewer: and what would they call your husband what would they call him 116: boss Interviewer: okay did you ever hear master or 116: no I never heard they called him a lot of things not that they called him Mr. {B} or boss Interviewer: okay {NS} uh what about uh a word for somebody who {NW} lived out in the country and maybe just never came to town and maybe didn't know how to act as they did any uh any word for somebody who #1 just always laying about # 116: #2 maybe call um country {D} # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # country what else do you put there country cracker or something #1 might be that or maybe that mm # Interviewer: #2 country cracker maybe cracker might # okay what about hill billy hill billy do you use that word 116: no I never had heard really I can't think right now what they do call um but I'll think later but not now Interviewer: okay 116: country crackers that's what they call um Interviewer: country crackers okay and if you saw somebody downtown and maybe was barefooted and dressed in overalls and just look like he had never had a bath or whatever you might say look at that old 116: cracker Interviewer: okay uh if it's not quite midnight and somebody asks you what time it is you might say well um it's not quite midnight yet 116: eleven o'clock Interviewer: okay and if you wanted just 116: eleven thirty or something Interviewer: okay or uh um would you say it's almost or it's pretty near 116: yeah you could say that Interviewer: would you ever say it's pretty near or petty near midnight 116: yeah Interviewer: you'd say almost how would you be more likely to say it 116: maybe fifteen minutes Interviewer: uh-uh 116: like that Interviewer: uh and if somebody said well it's time to go to bed you might say well it's 116: sleepy time Interviewer: alright okay is 116: about to get up the next morning Interviewer: okay {NW} uh and you might say well we better getting home it's midnight it's 116: time to go home Interviewer: okay 116: lets leave Interviewer: would you be inclined to say it's almost midnight or pretty near midnight which one would you be more likely to say 116: I'd say it's close to midnight Interviewer: close to midnight alright uh if you uh slip say on a slick place and catch yourself you might say this is a dangerous place I almost fell 116: fell Interviewer: I 116: slipped in Interviewer: well alright that I almost fell I nearly fell 116: mm-hmm but if you catch yourself you nearly fell Interviewer: okay and if somebody is waiting for you to go and uh he says will you be ready soon you might say well I'll be with you in 116: two minutes Interviewer: okay and if somebody if you know you're on the right road but you're not sure of the the distance you might ask somebody and say uh if you were going up to there you might say well oh how 116: far is it or something like that Interviewer: oh how's that 116: how far is it down there Interviewer: alright and uh 116: it's fifteen miles Interviewer: uh-uh if you're pointing to something uh nearby you might tell somebody oh 116: that's pretty Interviewer: okay and if you wanted someone to look at it you might say look here look at this 116: I want to see it Interviewer: okay {NW} 116: look at it Interviewer: okay and uh if you want to know how many times in the course of the week you'd say your neighbor goes up town you might say well how do you go up town how how would you say how often how often do you go up town 116: I'd go by myself I don't go but once or twice Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm but how would you # 116: #2 I'd have to walk # Interviewer: yeah how would you ask somebody if you wanted to find out whether or not they were there everyday you'd say how often do you go out of town would you say that 116: yeah you could say that but I don't know what they'd tell or they might go and stay in town somewhere Interviewer: mm-hmm 116: but you can't keep up with them when you do right I know the Fosters over there they go everyday to get their mail Interviewer: but you don't go very #1 and I'd say I don't go very often # 116: #2 I don't go very often # Interviewer: okay um and if you agree with someone and they say well I'm not gonna do that or I'm not gonna vote for that guy you might say well I'm not well mm 116: I'll say I'd knock him on the head Interviewer: okay or would you um use a neither am I uh neither am I you ever say neither am I 116: you can say that Interviewer: how would you say that you would say neither am I just say it for me 116: Neither that Interviewer: neither am I am I going neither am I 116: well that's it then Interviewer: how would you say it 116: I'd say that #1 neither am I # Interviewer: #2 okay # 116: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 116: uh and uh Interviewer: uh what do you call this part of your face up here 116: forehead Interviewer: and uh if you um if you go to the beauty shop you may say well I've got to get my 116: hair set Interviewer: and 116: I'd get everything set Interviewer: and If a man has hair growing here that's a 116: beard Interviewer: and uh uh you have two um you hear out of your 116: ears Interviewer: okay and you say well um um where would the store keeper keep his pencil when you said figure what you can 116: He'd keep it on the table then whole back of his ears Interviewer: okay 116: it is Interviewer: okay and you might say well if he were left handed you'd keep it on his 116: right side Interviewer: on his ear 116: left side Interviewer: okay um would you say left ear 116: what well wouldn't that be the way he Interviewer: uh-uh okay and if you were right handed he'd keep it on his 116: right Interviewer: right ear right what 116: right side Interviewer: okay uh 116: the ear Interviewer: okay and if somebody is um is talking and oh is um chewing gum at the same time and you can't understand and you might say take that chewing gum out of your 116: mouth Interviewer: and uh this part of your body is your your okay or your your throat lays {D} 116: #1 legs{D} # Interviewer: #2 down # okay and what about this little spot right here 116: used to call them {D: goose sores} Interviewer: okay 116: that's what they used to call them I don't know what they call them now Interviewer: they just don't call um anymore I don't think okay and if uh you go to the dentist you have him look at your 116: teeth Interviewer: okay and if you