Interviewer: {NS} Just experiment a little bit with this machine and see if the volume is alright. 166: That's one street go over we lived she lived after that and my daughter {NS} and her husband was raised up together Interviewer: #1 Is that a- # 166: #2 {X} # {NS} {D: for you go on some} {NS} Interviewer: Sure well I don't want to keep #1 you all maybe we can do a little bit of it # 166: #2 {D: I had a car too but they told me that its # it was liable to come {NS} he's liable to come tomorrow and if he does {NS} Interviewer: yes 166: I cuz I fixed my suitcases up yesterday but {NS} mowing my grass yesterday all day Interviewer: {NW} 166: wash to washing clothes. {NW} Interviewer: Alright well now first let me get your {NS} full name Mrs {B} {NS} 166: um {NS} {D: did you want} {B} mrs {B} Interviewer: Well uh mrs both I guess. {NS} Uh and uh and you were born when? {NS} 166: Eight eighteen ninety-two. {NS} Interviewer: Eighteen and ninety-two that's real fine and what date and today is {B} {NS} {B} {D: well I so- say} Happy birthday I guess this might be an unusual thing you could be doing on the date of your {NS} eighty-second birthday. {NS} And so that makes you uh {NS} eighty-two. {NS} 166: {NW} Interviewer: And um {NS} uh where were you born? 166: {B} in Macon. {NS} Interviewer: Right and uh {NS} Your your parents though had lived here before and then had moved {NS} 166: That and my father lived up at Ellaville and my mother lived down here at Leslie. Interviewer: Okay and uh lets see now how far is Ellaville from here approx- 166: It's fifteen miles from #1 Americus. # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # And uh {NS} alrighty. 166: And I I imagine it's about that far down to Leslie I don't I'm not sure about Interviewer: #1 Alright but # 166: #2 I know it was # fifteen miles it's probably I go up there lots I used to live between Americus and Interviewer: I see 166: Americus and Ellaville Interviewer: #1 Okay and # 166: #2 My doctor was # {NS} I have a doctor who lived up there. Interviewer: Oh I see #1 Well # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What a what a occupation was your father a farmer or? {NS} 166: Yeah he did farm some but he run a meat market a long time. Interviewer: I see and where was that? {NS} 166: Leslie. Interviewer: I see. 166: That's where he died down there at Leslie. Interviewer: uh-huh {NW} Was he born there? {NS} 166: Borned up of Ellaville Interviewer: uh-huh 166: And I don't know how long he's been dead about seventy years I think Interviewer: Seventy? {NS} Well he 166: He he died {NS} he I was twelve years old when he died. Interviewer: I see. 166: That makes about seventy don't it. Interviewer: It surely does. {NS} And what was your um {NS} your mother's maiden name what was her full name? {NS} 166: {D: ellen} {B} {NS} {B} Interviewer: Yes ma'am and your uh {NS} your father's full name. {B} {NS} {B} {NS} and uh {NS} Where uh her parents from uh {NS} around here too? 166: Yes they was all from around here. {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: When that war was going on {NS} my granddaddy was in it. {NS} Interviewer: #1 The civil war? # 166: #2 {D: lived on} # both sides uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: Is that right? {NS} 166: {D: One my grandma pa} {B} he had one of his legs {NS} cut off. {NS} And I don't know what happened to my gran {B} He was in bad shape terrible {NS} he didn't come out of it. {NS} Interviewer: Yes 166: In them days when they got out from there they had to go {NS} in the woods and let the family bring them clothes to get the lice off. {NS} change and get lices full of lice. Interviewer: #1 Mercy {X} # 166: #2 I've lived through it # I don't have {NS} Interviewer: Yes sir well do you remember your grandparents? {NS} 166: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: How long 166: Grandmother used to stay with us a whole lot and I don't know my granddaddy Interviewer: yes 166: But I remember my grandma cuz she lived longer. Interviewer: Yes ma'am {NS} Okay and um uh where did uh {NS} Where did you go to school and how long did you go to school mrs {B} 166: Well {NS} I didn't never finish school cause Papa died when I was twelve years old and I had to work in the field. Interviewer: I see 166: So I didn't get to finish my education but I went to Leslie. Interviewer: mm-hmm well about how many years uh {NS} off and on were you there or were you just uh 166: I was there the whole time. Interviewer: mm-hmm 166: School was going on. {NS} You know in them days you can't tell. Interviewer: #1 Right. # 166: #2 We didn't # have no grades or nothing you just went and Interviewer: Right. 166: go as far as you could and have to quit so I {NW} if they had a grade I imagine I went through the eighth grade. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 166: #2 See you didn't # have no grades. Interviewer: Right. 166: {X} Interviewer: Well you started probably when you were about six years old? {NS} 166: Yeah Interviewer: mm-kay {NS} And then went on till you were about twelve years old. {NS} Okay {NW} and uh {NS} What about your uh your parents do you remember how much they went to school? {NS} 166: They didn't go much either one of them cause them days you didn't go to school #1 much you had to stay out and work. # Interviewer: #2 Right and and # work that's right on the farm particular #1 didn't you? # 166: #2 Yeah. # {NS} Both of 'em was on the farm too. Interviewer: Right {NS} okay {NS} And uh your grandparents then on both sides were farmers? 166: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NW} And do you know uh {NS} Where their like did they come from another state way on back your family your fathers family your mothers family do you know uh? {NS} #1 and where they came to Sumter county # 166: #2 {D: I asked somebody} # never did find that out the first I knew of them was when {NS} Mama and Papa {NS} was married you know Interviewer: Yes 166: And that's been so long to Interviewer: Sure. {NS} 166: {NW} But I I {NS} believe they stayed on the farm Interviewer: #1 Yes ma'am. # 166: #2 I know one # night they come from and come over here it might have been all they did. Interviewer: Okay well I want to ask you uh {NS} and where when you all as a child what house do you remember best uh {NW} uh if you all moved from Macon back here did you grow up in the same house? 166: No uh-uh we moved back. mm-hmm {NS} We lived in Leslie and there- there's just old wooden houses. Interviewer: Do you remember the house in Leslie? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Well how about telling me about one I want to draw a kind of a sketch of it do you remember what you can kind of #1 tell me about it # 166: #2 It had # four rooms. Interviewer: Okay just like a square then? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Like this and there'd be a one here and one here just like that did it have a hall? {NS} 166: No it didn't have no hall. Interviewer: Okay what about out front did it have a {NS} porch? 166: Porch uh-huh Interviewer: Okay {NS} Like that? 166: uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: What about on the back? {NS} 166: Nothing on the back you know then they didn't put them on the back like they do now. Interviewer: Okay and was it up high were there steps up to it? {NS} 166: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: Uh what two or three do you remember was it real high? 166: I don't remember you take seventy years Interviewer: #1 That's a pretty good while that's good I can't remember. # 166: #2 {X} # {NS} We moved now after Papa died we moved back right smart Interviewer: #1 Okay and how # 166: #2 working # {NS} Worked in the field. Interviewer: Yes ma'am {NS} What uh um {NS} And all sorts of things in the field? 166: yeah {NS} Interviewer: Cotton and uh 166: Corn peanuts {NS} Things like that. Interviewer: #1 Yes ma'am okay # 166: #2 Then # you didn't get about twenty-five {NS} cents a hundred {NS} pecan {NS} not over forty no way. {NS} Interviewer: How much did you average maybe working in a day when you worked like that? {NS} 166: It wasn't much. #1 I can tell you # Interviewer: #2 {D: Sure then wasn't it} # 166: It'd run about forty and fifty cents a day then. Interviewer: Imagine that. 166: Imagine that but it's true. Interviewer: And people would work for that or 166: #1 mm-mm no uh-uh no. # Interviewer: #2 triple that for an hour now would they? # Alright tell- 166: That's what you paid for picking cotton was anywhere from twenty-five to forty cent and I could pick about two hundred a day. {NS} But uh {NS} when that {NS} when it was {NS} damp or anything like that it would end up heavy but when it was {NS} dried out you couldn't get nothing much Interviewer: mm-hmm 166: seed done dried out. Interviewer: Honestly {NW} Did you have uh how many brothers and sisters I know you have one sister here. 166: Yeah I had uh {NS} two brothers and three sisters {NS} Interviewer: And do they uh others of them near hear are uh {NS} 166: No they're all dead. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Oh # 166: #2 I've # got one brother up here about Buena Vista Interviewer: #1 I see. # 166: #2 that's # the only one. Interviewer: Well were you the youngest or in the middle? 166: I was the oldest that's why it's always so hard on me. Interviewer: Yeah? {NS} 166: And I {NS} had a brother next to me {NS} then sisters next {NS} Interviewer: And what's your sister's name? {NS} {B} {NS} 166: So um {NS} there's five of us you know two boys and three girls. {NS} But my brother my brother's dead. {NS} {NW} Baby brother and baby sister {NS} both of them are younger than we were. Interviewer: Yes 166: they all both of them dead. {NS} Interviewer: I see 166: Both died of the cancer. Interviewer: mm that's terrible. {NS} Uh which rooms were which in this house now was this the kitchen one of these 166: That was a {NS} bedroom up there {NS} and the kitchen was over here. Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: And I guess the rest of them was bedrooms they didn't have no living rooms then. {NS} Interviewer: Okay bedrooms. {NW} Uh did you use one of them more to sit in than the others do you remember? 166: No you know they didn't have them then. {NS} Just sit in the bedroom. {NS} Interviewer: Yes well which one did you sit in the front one here? 166: mm-mm Interviewer: Or this one? 166: mm Interviewer: Okay and uh you had what furniture in there mrs {B} 166: Just old furniture old time-y furniture and anybody'd be glad to get such as that. {NW} {C: laughs} Interviewer: Antique now wouldn't it be? 166: Just old furniture. Interviewer: Yes but like uh 166: #1 {D: Iron beds} # Interviewer: #2 a bed or # a iron bed. {NS} And uh {NS} Uh Dressers or or where 166: You'd have a dresser with it. Interviewer: uh-huh and uh what other places to keep uh the clothes? {NS} Was there? 166: Closets had closets then all around. Interviewer: Right were they built in or across the #1 corner? # 166: #2 Built in. # Interviewer: Uh on the wall side like this or across the corner? {NS} 166: Just like that one in yonder in mine. {NS} Interviewer: Just straight in like that? {NS} And you call that a closet any other furniture besides a dresser that you kept clothes in do you remember? {NS} 166: Nothing but that. {NS} Trunks we used trunks then more than anything else. Interviewer: Right. {NS} #1 Okay and then # 166: #2 I got a # trunk in here now. {NS} I don't know how old that trunk is my husband had it when he married and we done got the handles off of it but I won't do away with it. Interviewer: Sure 166: He lived to be eight- {NS} eighty my husband lived to be eighty {NS} Seventy-nine I believe Interviewer: Yes ma'am 166: No it wasn't it {NS} I'm wrong {NS} I'm eighty-two and he was {NS} He lived to be eighty-nine. I got that right #1 now. # Interviewer: #2 Well fine # fine and what other furniture did you have in here to sit on? {NS} 166: Just straight chairs. Interviewer: Straight made out of? {NS} 166: There's home made ones you know they made 'em then. Interviewer: Out of wood? 166: Yeah and they lasted too. Interviewer: With that uh what kind of bottom? {NS} 166: Oh I don't know what you call it thing but anyway it's made out of um {NS} what is the name of that stuff? {NS} Interviewer: Cane? 166: Cane that's what it was. Interviewer: I've seen those I seen something looks like they're made out of string sometimes too {NS} you know kind of laced around. {NS} Okay {NS} And uh this didn't there were not another floor just four rooms there's nothing upstairs here? 166: No no upstairs. Interviewer: Okay {NW} and uh if you call even though this was a bedroom did you refer to it to distinguish it from this room {NW} or this one back here as the as the place where you sat what how did you say go into the {NS} what did you call that uh separated from this on the front bedroom 166: They're separated Yeah if this was the front. Interviewer: uh-huh but you #1 call them # 166: #2 To me # that was the front. Interviewer: mm-kay did you call that the front bedroom or uh {NW} uh you didn't say a living #1 room # 166: #2 Well I # tell you the truth we didn't have no living rooms. Interviewer: Right 166: The beds was in all the rooms #1 cuz you had to # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 166: have them for the children Interviewer: #1 you see? # Interviewer: #2 Right. # 166: They just bedrooms that's what I call them. Interviewer: #1 Okay but you didn't call it # 166: #2 And we'd just sit down and # have chairs and anyone that want to sit down would sit #1 down. # Interviewer: #2 Right. # and uh you didn't have uh {NS} Uh anything like this piece of furniture then in there? {NS} 166: I lived in Leslie 'til I was {NS} married I married when I was eighteen. {NS} Interviewer: I see 166: Then I moved up here {NS} we he my husband lived up here both. {NS} Between here and uh {NS} between here and Shiloh out there. Interviewer: I see. 166: And so I been a member of Shiloh church fifty-two years. Interviewer: And what denomination is that Mrs. #1 {X} # 166: #2 Baptist. # Interviewer: I see. 166: But when I moved up here {NS} put my letter in down here at central baptist. Interviewer: And your husband was a baptist too? 166: Yeah he was #1 baptist too # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 166: He was member of the same church out yonder {X} Interviewer: Did you all grow up together? 166: uh-uh Interviewer: #1 No when did you meet him? # 166: #2 We just # met {NS} at a party. Interviewer: Is that right? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Well hmm okay I need to how was this house heated? {NS} 166: Fireplace {NS} that's what we call fireplace and that's what they called them then your fireplace and {NW} Cut your wood {NW} Interviewer: Burn wood 166: get that splinters {NS} Interviewer: Uh yeah what? {NS} 166: Splinters starters you know what #1 fat fat wood # Interviewer: #2 Fat splinters? # right. {NS} 166: And to starts a fire as well. {NS} Interviewer: And what did you pour on it did you pour something on it? 166: Uh-uh that's what we use was splinters and you put spl- and light the splinters and {NW} put that there and put you some dry wood on top of it. Interviewer: right 166: and {NS} and then oak wood. Interviewer: mm-hmm 166: and so that oak wood was really good too. That's what we used to iron by. Interviewer: How many fireplaces did you have in say #1 this house? # 166: #2 two # Interviewer: #1 two? # 166: #2 two # Interviewer: One in the 166: one out in the middle {NS} Interviewer: Oh like here and then over here? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Okay and what {NS} was it that went out the top to take the smoke out? {NS} 166: Wasn't nothing the smoke just went on up through. Interviewer: Uh but was it what did you call that like 166: #1 Chimney. # Interviewer: #2 this # Okay {NS} And uh what do you call this or what did you used to #1 call this? # 166: #2 That's a {X} # {D: hearth} Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 {D: hearth} # {NS} #1 That's what # Interviewer: #2 And # 166: we called it then I don't know what to call it now and fireplace too #1 {D: call it fireplace X} # Interviewer: #2 Yes ma'am yes ma'am # {NS} And what about something that's uh stuck back in there that you laid the wood across? {NS} 166: What was them things? {NS} It was iron. {NS} Interviewer: Iron. 166: Uh-huh with handles up this way to hold the wood back there's iron this way and then up this way. Interviewer: yes. 166: I done forgot what you call that. Interviewer: Uh and did you hear call any of these things maybe a {NS} uh and iron dog iron fire iron 166: Dog iron I reckon I fire iron neither one I don't that's what it was for to put your wood on {NS} to keep it from being flat on {NS} rolling out. Interviewer: Do you remember hearing it called fire dog ever? {NS} 166: That might've been it. {NS} It's something like that I can't tell you exactly you know that's been {NW} seventy {NS} been eighty years no seventy years. Interviewer: Seventy years more than yes ma'am and this piece up here you call the? {NS} 166: {D: something} {NS} Mantel. Interviewer: Okay and do you remember any old words for that {NS} besides that? 166: the mantel. Interviewer: {D: mandola} {NS} 166: Then I don't know what to call them now I still call them #1 mantel. # Interviewer: #2 {D: mandola} # That's probably what they're still called. {NS} Okay and what about a big piece of wood that you put in the back to keep the biggest log in there? 166: That'd be oak wood. Interviewer: uh-huh and did you call it um {NS} uh {NS} uh a {NS} back log or anything like that you just said it's a big? {NS} 166: We used to just call it oak wood that's what you made the fire w- Interviewer: #1 Yes ma'am. # 166: #2 {D: with well that was} # we used to call it oak wood. Interviewer: #1 Okay and what would # 166: #2 It was oak # so you know when green #1 timber # Interviewer: #2 yes # And uh what did you call a piece of it when you bring in bring in some {NS} 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Logs? # 166: I don't know what to #1 call it right now. # Interviewer: #2 would you say some # some logs? {NS} 166: All I know we just called it {NS} wood Interviewer: #1 okay # 166: #2 just wood # Interviewer: okay 166: Go get some wood and put it on the fire that's what they used to say. {NS} Interviewer: alright {NW} and uh {NS} what about that uh {NS} black stuff that forms in the chimney what do you #1 call that? # 166: #2 That's smoke # Interviewer: {NS} #1 okay and that # 166: #2 Smoke # it comes from the wood. Interviewer: Right and if it sticks on the side of it 166: mm-hmm it's on the sides and back too. Interviewer: Yes 166: I used to whitewash {NS} right in the edges there you know and over the {NS} the top of it then {NS} the back'd be plum black. Interviewer: okay and they uh {NS} If you'd uh the children we playing around it got some of it on you'd say oh look you've got what on you? {NS} 166: Just playing around it? Interviewer: Yes 'm and then if they got their hands in there and got that black stuff on them you'd say they got? 166: You just get nasty. Interviewer: Right you're #1 getting # 166: #2 Right. # Interviewer: {NS} uh did you call that soot? #1 or # 166: #2 That's # smut we used to call it smut. Interviewer: Smut okay 166: I don't know what to call it now now I'm telling you the old word. Interviewer: Yes ma'am well tell me both of 'em then any that you remember or you #1 Heard a long time ago # 166: #2 Well that was # smut. Interviewer: Yes ma'am okay {NW} And uh let's talk about the furniture in this room for a minute then you tell me you didn't have a this piece of furniture in the old house what do you call this now? {NS} 166: I call it a settee. Interviewer: Okay {NW} And uh 166: And that's a coffee table. Interviewer: Yes 'm and you call that a? 166: That goes with this a chair. Interviewer: Yes ma'am {NW} And uh what about in the uh bedroom what furniture do you have in the bedroom now? 166: Two beds and dresser and {NS} Interviewer: What about 166: Washtand they used to call 'em washtand you know. Interviewer: right 166: That's what I Interviewer: and you had a big bowl and pitcher? 166: Yeah a long time ago we did and my daughter that died got that. {NS} I moved {NS} Interviewer: yeah 166: I gave it to her and I guess her husband still got it he's married again I don't know whether he's got it or not. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about a piece of furniture that's just a series of drawers stacked up do you have something like that? {NS} Not with a a dresser has a mirror over it #1 doesn't it? # 166: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: What about one that doesn't have a mirror over it it's ju- 166: Chest of drawers. Interviewer: Yes ma'am and uh {NS} they uh {NS} all of the {NS} the things in the house the chairs or tables or beds you call that what? 166: Rocking chairs are cuz rocking and the other would be straight chairs Interviewer: Yes ma'am and uh if you say if someone is going to buy things to put in their house you say well they're going to buy a lot of new? {NS} 166: Furniture. Interviewer: Okay and uh {NS} uh do you remember any uh {NS} any piece of furniture if uh maybe it had now but maybe they used to have that was not built in like a closet but something that was a loose piece that could be moved around like a piece of furniture to put clothes 166: Wardrobes Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 {D: and you sorta} # make 'em you know just out of wood. Interviewer: #1 Yes 'm. # 166: #2 And you # take 'em and roll 'em have 'em put rollers under Interviewer: Yes 'm. {NS} 166: roll 'em. Interviewer: Okay and if a house had a sort of uh {NS} a little space right up under the roof where you could maybe store things? 166: I have a it in there {X} {NS} my room in there now. Interviewer: What do you call that? {NS} 166: Chairs chairs where you put things {NS} Interviewer: Yes {NW} 166: This room here that has a chairs too. Interviewer: Okay and what about is there a place which you can pull down in the ceiling and go up above? 166: Yeah right in there. Interviewer: What do you call that space up there? {NS} 166: What do you ca- {NS} Upstairs. {NS} Interviewer: Okay #1 What about attic? # 166: #2 {D: thats} # {NS} That's where you go in you know if anything happens up there Interviewer: #1 Yes # 166: #2 that's # {X} {NW} Now what do you call that? Interviewer: Uh is it attic I heard the word attic #1 used. # 166: #2 It must # be attic. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} 166: Go right in here Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 166: #2 {D: they were} # working on my house when I moved here {NS} that's where they went up and down. Interviewer: Right or a loft {NS} #1 or a garret? # 166: #2 I guess it could # be called a loft. Interviewer: Yes but you don't remember one word more than another 166: uh-uh Interviewer: Okay and the place where you cook is the? {NS} 166: Kitchen. {NS} Interviewer: And what about a little room off the kitchen where you might store canned goods or extra #1 dishes # 166: #2 {D: Well} # there's pantry it's in the kitchen. Interviewer: Okay {NW} and what would you call old {NS} maybe worthless furniture implements maybe just things that you {NS} uh might {NS} throw out or want to get rid of you'd say I'm going to get rid of all this {NS} 166: Something you doesn't want thr- {C: laughs} Interviewer: Yes 'm mm-hmm 166: You just want to get rid of #1 {D: is all I know} # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # Junk or #1 trash # 166: #2 {D: That's right junk} # Interviewer: #1 okay. # 166: #2 I'm gonna # rid of some of this junk. {NS} And that's what me and my sisters been doing getting up different things and throwing them #1 {D: away now I} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 166: got some stuff to throw away there #1 now. # Interviewer: #2 That's # a big job isn't it. {NW} Okay well what about an a little old or room somewhere where you keep things that you don't really use but you're reluctant to throw #1 away? # 166: #2 I don't # have that. {NS} Interviewer: Well do you know know what I'm talking about? {NS} You mean just maybe the back of a room #1 what # 166: #2 {D: I don't know} # Interviewer: what would that be called? 166: That'd used to be called a utility room wasn't it? Interviewer: Okay or maybe just a junk #1 room. # 166: #2 {X} # junk room. Interviewer: Okay 166: I have one back here but {NS} one of my tubs in this other room back there Interviewer: #1 Yes ma'am # 166: #2 {D: My sister} # she had a tub and I {NS} mine's around here and I have a shower. {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NW} and what do you say talking about the daily house work you say every morning a woman has to? {NW} 166: Make up the beds and cook breakfast and wash dishes and then go to starting about the lunch Interviewer: {C: sigh laugh thing} Okay and when you talking about all the things you do to make the house neat you say well {NW} I did this yesterday but the place is dirty and I'm gonna have to? {NS} 166: I used to could say it when I had children but now nobody help #1 me to get it dirty. {C: chuckles} # Interviewer: #2 Right okay. # {NS} But do you say to uh to clean up or tidy up or ready up what #1 {X} # 166: #2 {D: Wack} # 'em up that's it Interviewer: #1 {X} # 166: #2 {D: What I} # say now. Interviewer: Okay {NW} a long time ago your mother might have said well it's time to {NS} 166: Get an order {NS} um {NS} mop mm What do you call them things you put your soaps in? {NS} That's what we used to scrub with scrub the floors #1 with. # Interviewer: #2 mm # 166: didn't have no such as this then. Interviewer: #1 A car {X} # 166: #2 Just regular # old {NS} floor {NS} and nothing on it. {NS} Interviewer: Would 166: Well then you didn't know what it was had something on it Interviewer: right no carpet 166: but um {NS} {X} {NS} that's what it is. {NS} Wet it good put your soap and water {D: butter we used to use butter as} {NS} Interviewer: #1 I can't {X} # 166: #2 take a mop # take a mop {NS} {NW} {X} get in there and {NS} do just the way you {X} Interviewer: yes 166: then you get some water and broom and rise it then you get a cloth and wipe it up Interviewer: After you wash it you get some other water and do what? {NS} 166: rinse it Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Okay it made the boards real white didn't it when it was washed that way was that the #1 white # 166: #2 And you # know there's half that then because you #1 {D: done with a whole lot of junk} # Interviewer: #2 {X} yes # No dust like rugs {X} {NW} Okay and uh but before you mop you might take something and {NS} 166: You sleep it out Interviewer: With what what do you use? {NS} 166: Broom just broom Interviewer: Okay 166: then you put your what your {NS} scrub with you put it in the water {NS} Interviewer: yes 166: likes {NS} {D: poly-X} and things like that you put it in the water and {NS} put it all over the floor and take your mop and go over that. {NS} That's the way we used to do old times now but now {NS} I could just go over {NS} with a mop now and and just {NS} in the kitchen and {NS} the bathroom and this little hall here and here I have to vacuum. Interviewer: Yes {NS} okay and w- {NS} usually on mondays women would say they had to do #1 their? # 166: #2 It's # wash day. Interviewer: Okay and on tuesday? {NS} 166: Tuesday is ironing day. {NS} When you wasn't in the fields when you was in the fields you didn't {NW} you had to wash whenever you could. Interviewer: Yes {NS} #1 And # 166: #2 Wait till it # rain to wash Interviewer: {NW} {C: laughs} You had water. 166: and stay in the fields stay in the fields and work. {NS} And you take a rainy day to wash you had to wash outdoors. Interviewer: Yes {NS} #1 {X} # 166: #2 When it's too # wet I mean to go go and pick old cotton and things like #1 that # Interviewer: #2 I see # 166: {NS} you do your washing that morning and then go to the field that evening. Interviewer: If it cleared up? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Is that the way you say that #1 {D: the weather terms mm-hmm.} # 166: #2 {D: yeah that's the way it does when we were done.} # Interviewer: {NW} Okay and if you go from the first floor of a house up to the second floor you have to go up the {NS} 166: Stairs. Interviewer: mm-hmm you say stairs rather than stair way or {NS} 166: I haven't got a stairway here never have had #1 one. # Interviewer: #2 Okay # {NW} and uh {NS} 166: When I was living out in the country that time I had a big old six room house and a hall and a big wide porch {NS} front and a big wide one in the back screened in I lived up there at Shiloh. {NS} Do you have you ever been by Shiloh? Interviewer: No ma'am {NS} 166: It's right uh se- first second house on the other side of {NS} on the other side of Shiloh. {NS} We lived there for fifty {NS} two years. Interviewer: I see and you moved here then when uh 166: I sold out sold out the farm {NS} timber land and everything. Interviewer: Yes 166: moved here {NS} I couldn't stay out there by myself and I couldn't see about the timber you get somebody else to {NW} sell your timber by the {NS} load {NS} they is liable to take a load off and sell it and you wouldn't never know about it so I just couldn't see about it. Interviewer: Sure. 166: I didn't get what I really ought to have got out of it but I got rid of it. {NS} Interviewer: Well did you have any other do you remember any other words for a porch to distinguish if it was on the front or the back or screened? {NS} Or what about one that was up on the the up above this on uh you remember anything like that a porch up maybe on the second floor? {NS} 166: I know my {NS} daughter and them got them a kind in Denver Colorado that's where my baby go to live. Interviewer: mm-hmm 166: They got 'em up stairs yeah but I don't know what to call them. Interviewer: Maybe just another porch have you ever heard #1 veranda? # 166: #2 No the # porch I meant imagine up over there. Interviewer: Yes {NW} okay and if the door is {NW} open and it's getting clo- getting cold you might tell someone go over and? {NS} 166: Shut the door. {NW} Interviewer: And what do you call the those boards on the outside of this house uh you know the {NS} ones that are {NS} you know s- stacked up to make the wall {NS} like wooden houses are made out of {NS} say it's not a brick house it's made of? {NS} 166: Wood. Interviewer: uh-huh and do you call the boards anything weather weather boa- 166: Weather boarding uh-huh {NS} okay That's what you call that. Interviewer: Weather board rather than flatboard or siding? {NS} 166: Some of it's siding you have to use that siding in a lot of places #1 places. # Interviewer: #2 Oh # that's that when it's uh {NS} uh made composition. {NW} Okay {NS} and uh {NS} If you were were trying to repair something {NS} with a hammer you would {NS} say {NW} well I've gotta get a hammer and a nail and do what? {NS} 166: Nail it in whatever you had to was tore up and you had to fix back. Interviewer: Okay and if you were going downtown uh and you were going to be the person that uh {NS} doing the {NS} the thing behind the wheel you'd say well I am going to {NS} 166: #1 I don't # Interviewer: #2 What # 166: drive though. Interviewer: Okay but if uh {NW} {NS} if someone else did it uh took you downtown you'd say well yesterday she? {NS} 166: Went to town. Interviewer: Yes and and if you want to say she went in her car she? {NS} 166: I never did learn how to drive I sold my car here about {NS} first of the year. Interviewer: I see. 166: Sister had one {NS} we'd go back and forth in hers but she's not able to she's not able to drive. Interviewer: I see and if uh someone uh {NS} you want to say someone uh went in the car rather than they walked you would say well she yesterday today she's going to drive down town yesterday she how would you say that she? 166: Walked. {NS} Interviewer: Well but if she went in the car you'd say 166: Ride. {NS} Interviewer: She what? 166: Ride. {NS} Interviewer: Uh yesterday she but she did the driving you'd say she what? {NS} yester- today she drives but yesterday she? 166: Walks. Interviewer: And and well she went in the car you'd say drove? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: #1 {D: uh would you} # 166: #2 She drove # downtown. Interviewer: Okay and what about if it's somebody who every day at a certain time {NW} does that you'd say I watch her and the {NS} everyday for years she has {NS} done that going in {NS} 166: Came home. Interviewer: Yeah #1 and she # 166: #2 {D: I got out there} # {NS} tuesday morning I believe {NS} walked up town. {NS} Interviewer: um 166: I walk up town lots it's good for you. Interviewer: Sure that's fine well would how would you say drive there if you used it with a she has {NS} uh would you say she has driven or she has drove or or? 166: She's a good driver. Interviewer: uh which one of those words would you use would you be more likely to say she has driven everyday or she has drove everyday or what? {NS} 166: I don't know {NS} you know was there wasn't no cars when I was coming along #1 long time # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 166: ago but now I believe I believe say ride. Interviewer: Okay {NW} alright and uh the top part of the house is called the? {NS} {D: just you know just the top} 166: {D: top covering} {NS} Interviewer: Okay a ro- 166: Roof roof. Interviewer: uh-huh {NW} and uh what about a place where the the like over there there's a place where the roof goes down like this and then another one comes down like this what would you call that part #1 {D: in the middle?} # 166: #2 The top of the # porch. Interviewer: Okay {NW} and uh if there's a place where the roof is joined in would you #1 use # 166: #2 And that's where it # is right there. Interviewer: Yes {NS} okay {NW} 166: It leaks and down on the lower side over there too #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: breath laugh} # 166: I called a fellow today to come Interviewer: And fix 166: to see if he could find out where it was this evening Interviewer: uh-huh 166: fixed it once and {NS} So I said I was going to call them but I won't have time I don't expect before I go off. Interviewer: Well uh what do you call a little building out on the farm that's used for storing wood? 166: Smoke house. {NS} and you use it for meat {D: you get a little-} Interviewer: Meat. 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Right {NW} 166: That's what we use out in the country. Interviewer: What about a place where you might store tools or something it might be on the side of the barn? 166: Well that was a little {NS} we used to have one out in the country. {NS} That was a gear house we called it a gear house we had to key to knew which gear #1 {D: you know. } # Interviewer: #2 Okay # {NW} and uh 166: I have to think a lot. Interviewer: Sure well seventy years might take a little thinking. {NW} Or what other {NS} uh little buildings would you have out on the farm? {NS} 166: Car shelters. {NS} Interviewer: Okay did you have a indoor bathroom back then? {NS} mm-hmm you 166: We didn't when I was growing up and all but after they got {NS} come in Interviewer: #1 Right you # 166: #2 we put in a shower. # Interviewer: put one in okay well when it was outside what did you call it? {NS} 166: me see. {NS} What did we call that? {NS} Go to the {NS} a lot of time we'd call it johnny. Interviewer: The johnny when it was outside I heard johnny a lot inside I didn't know that was sometimes an outside word. 166: Sometimes they do though. Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 166: #2 Long time # ago they I got to go to the johnny I had teachers that stayed with me {NS} Interviewer: yes 166: They like to say well I just got to go to the johnny. Interviewer: Okay and um {NS} what about outhouse or {NS} toilet? #1 {NW} # 166: #2 Well # now that could be outhouse called outhouse #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay # Well if it's toilet is that more likely to be inside? {NS} Or privy what about privy do you remember using that word? {NS} No? {NS} Outhouse or the johnny huh? 166: Yeah the johnny I believe I'd I'd just say johnny. {NS} #1 {X are} # Interviewer: #2 Okay # 166: many things {NS} Interviewer: If uh if somebody comes to you and just starts telling you everything {NW} uh bad that's happened to them and you feel like well they're not thinking about anybody for themselves {NW} and uh {NS} you might say well I've {NS} have a problem I have uh {NS} you're not the only person that has troubles I #1 what? # 166: #2 We # all have troubles. Interviewer: Okay {NW} uh {NS} and uh. 166: And you can look around and see that some of it's worse than others. Interviewer: Yes ma'am okay well what about {NS} if there's something strange outside {NW} and you wanted to ask someone if they were aware of it you might say what? {NS} Did you? 166: Did you know anything about it? Interviewer: #1 Okay are and did you just # 166: #2 {D: or something like that. } # Interviewer: Did I I thought I heard something did you {NS} 166: I never did do that. Interviewer: Yeah? {NW} #1 Okay # 166: #2 I always # try to find out go #1 see it. # Interviewer: #2 yes # alright and if uh {NS} if there was a program or a speech or a a a sermon and you want to know if someone was there you might say {NS} did you go to hear {NS} 166: Go to church. Interviewer: Yes and did you {NS} hear what somebody said? {NS} Did uh uh I just want you to say that for me the way you would if you're asking somebody you know? {NW} uh if you want to know whether or not they uh {NS} they listened when somebody was talking you might say did you {NS} #1 hear what # 166: #2 Go to # sunday school? Interviewer: Yes 'm #1 and did you # 166: #2 go to # church Interviewer: Okay and use the word hear for me in a sentence just say it just how would you say do you did you h- what he said? {NS} 166: Yes we we talk about that some we'd talk about the preacher you know Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 166: #2 The # sermon he preached and what he preached on. Interviewer: Okay 166: And here about two weeks ago he preached good and then he preached on um {NS} divorces. Interviewer: Yes ma'am {NS} 166: And he preached on that he {D: um that} parents was to blame {NS} for a lot of this that's going on now. Interviewer: {NW} Okay and uh if uh if somebody says well {NW} I go every sunday because I like to what the preacher I like to? 166: You like the preacher. Interviewer: Like to? 166: It's in sunday school I pray by my sunday school class and teacher too but she's been out now some little bit she had a baby. Interviewer: Okay {NW} Uh and if uh I ask you if you know a person and you might say no I don't know him but I've {NS} 166: Heard of him. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh {NS} if some uh friend came back into town and another friend has been visiting with him you might uh {NS} might ask have you seen him yet? {NW} And you might say no I haven't? {NS} 166: Yeah I've done that a lot of times. Interviewer: Okay how would you say it if you want to say I've {NS} 166: I haven't seen him. Interviewer: Okay {NW} and uh {NS} uh if uh if something you do everyday {NS} you might uh yes I {NS} like uh what are some 166: I done it. Interviewer: Everyday? Okay uh I did it yesterday I {NS} 166: Done something else. Interviewer: #1 and uh # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NS} and uh {NS} if you're asking about somebody across the street and you want to know if they do that you might say well there's so and so does she or {NS} how would you ask that? {NS} Does she water her flowers everyday would you say? 166: Yeah something like that. Interviewer: Okay 166: Which we all do when the weather's- Interviewer: Sure {NS} okay {NW} if a man lets his farm maybe get all run down and he doesn't seem to care you might say to someone who asks {NS} uh I don't really know but he just {NS} to care he? 166: Just {NS} don't keep his terraces up and things like that. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh 166: That's what uh my husband used to do he'd work on terraces and {NS} right after christmas to keep 'em from washing. Interviewer: yes 'm {NS} 166: That's what we'd call them terrace- Interviewer: terraces {D: yes ma'am} And uh 166: Keeping the grass out too working on keeping the grass out Interviewer: mm-kay {NS} and uh if uh if someone asks you something and you say well I believe such and such but I'm {NS} how would you finish that when you want to 166: #1 I doubt it. # Interviewer: #2 you want to say # Okay {NW} um {NS} 166: {D: You gotta battle dance} Interviewer: No ma'am you doing fine this is just what I need. {NS} 166: That's when we find out that we turned the young people the young {NS} this generation and the other Interviewer: #1 Both # 166: #2 {D: I'ma} # say two #1 generations and # Interviewer: #2 yes ma'am both # 166: we was raised up hard {NW} and the next generation began to pick up and now they done got to the limit #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Just everything is too easy. {NW} Okay you might say you live in a {NW} a frame {NS} 166: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: frame? 166: House. Interviewer: And if there are two of them you'd say there are two frame? {NS} 166: Apartments. Interviewer: Okay or just use the same word just two? {NS} Hou- {NS} One house or two {NS} 166: I say two apartments and they'd be right Interviewer: Oh I don't mean in the same building like that building and that one over there there's one house here's one house and over there are two? {NS} Hou- {NS} 166: Houses Interviewer: Yes ma'am that's what I wanted just your pronunciation that's fine. {C: 166 laughs} {NW} Okay and the big building behind the house where maybe hay is stored or where the cattle what do you call that? {NS} 166: Barn. Interviewer: {NS} Okay and the building you store corn in is a? 166: That's a barn all connected. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 That's # what we had out yonder just a barn Interviewer: okay 166: and there was cows and hogs and mules too. Interviewer: And they put #1 corn in there? # 166: #2 and pop that # corn in big {NS} um {NS} rooms you know have it sealed up. {NS} Weather boarded in there wasn't no sealing but have it where the s- where the stock couldn't get to it. Interviewer: Yes ma'am what about the upper part of the barn? {NS} 166: Well a lot of times they have a loft up there and put hay up there. Interviewer: Yes ma'am okay. What about a {NS} a place for they hay when they {NS} left it out in the field for a while when they mounded it up do you re- {NS} 166: To get it in if it went to rain they'd tell you cause they didn't want to stay out in the rain. Interviewer: Right and um {NS} if they get the barn maybe full of hay {NS} how do they keep it eh do they try to stack it? 166: Yes they stack uh stacked it. Interviewer: Into what what do they call that? 166: In the barn that's still the barn all all of that was barn what we had out in the country Interviewer: Okay 166: {D: Put your} {NS} Now we had different places to put dried peas and things {NS} but that was a regular barn I think Interviewer: Okay 166: on a pasture. Interviewer: alright. {NW} And uh do you remember any sort of a thing that they put hay on {NS} uh out maybe before they took it to the barn or maybe the barn was full with crops like this and they pile hay in it? 166: {D: In rooms } so it would dry out. Interviewer: What did they call that do you remember? 166: Drying the hay out Interviewer: Okay and what did they call that thing that it sat on do you remember? 166: Crosspiece Interviewer: What? 166: Crosspiece Interviewer: A crosspiece okay {NS} and uh {NS} um {NS} The horse as you said stayed in the {NS} 166: #1 Barn. # Interviewer: #2 in the barn # too. {NS} 166: #1 Cows # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: was in the barn too. Interviewer: And where were the cows uh milked? {NS} 166: Stalls. Interviewer: okay #1 Did the what the # 166: #2 {D: I had} # Had stalls for mine. {NS} Interviewer: So did you help milk? {NS} 166: Have milk? Interviewer: Help yeah. 166: I milk with five cows {NS} Interviewer: #1 Is that right everyday # 166: #2 everyday. # {NS} Yeah I've sold milk and butter and eggs. {NS} Everything like that. Interviewer: mm okay Do you remember any place outside where the cows were milked maybe in hot weather when it was too hot to go in the barn do you remember? 166: Yeah they'd have a shelter. Interviewer: #1 A shelter? # 166: #2 Have # have troughs put the feed in. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And what about a place where you kept uh the pigs and hogs? {NS} 166: We kept them in a pasture {NS} but we'd have a place built in for them to come in and eat. Interviewer: uh-huh and what did you call that oh that was in the a barn you mean? {NS} 166: mm {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NS} What about uh uh {NS} a pen what you do for hogs {NS} or pigs did you ever have a small enclosure? 166: Yeah we separate 'em you know when they's gonna find pigs. Interviewer: And what did you call that? {NS} 166: {D: I pen her in.} Interviewer: okay {NW} And what about any kind of a place a long time ago you know before they had refrigeration {NW} um maybe they had a certain place that they kept milk and butter. 166: They they used to make the things and line 'em and fix 'em in wood and make make up wood just as we had one one time {NW} build it about this wide {NS} lined it inside you know and then put the wood lining or tin lining whatever they put in there. {NW} We just have to set our milk and butter down in there you couldn't keep it like you can now. Interviewer: Yes ma'am what did they call that do you remember a word? 166: Ice box. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Okay you had ice that you put in? # 166: #2 {X} # Yeah you {X} {NS} bring the ice out sell the ice Interviewer: Yes 'm 166: carry it out in the country about {NS} once and twice and three times a week. Interviewer: What about a place maybe out uh where water ran that they might set milk 166: #1 Gulley. # Interviewer: #2 {D: or butter. } # {NS} A what? 166: Gulley. Interviewer: And w- do you remember doing that before you had even ice? {NS} #1 No? # 166: #2 {X} # {NS} You talk about the ice being used? Interviewer: Uh no um I'm talking about maybe out on the farm before you had ice. {NS} uh W- was there a place that you set uh uh {NS} m- milk down in #1 {D: a stream} # 166: #2 Put it down # in a well Interviewer: uh-huh #1 Oh # 166: #2 Rope on it # on it tie it in a well Interviewer: #1 oh uh-huh # 166: #2 we done that a lot of times # {NS} when I was growing up. Interviewer: Okay {NW} and the area around the barn is generally called the what? {NS} 166: I don't know what you call that. Interviewer: Uh what about uh a lot? or a #1 barnyard? # 166: #2 {D: well you can't} # have a lot because we did have a lot to build on to it you know? {NW} So they could come out in the sunshine #1 out of the barn. # Interviewer: #2 Yes 'm. # Alright and what about the place where you let them go out to graze what did you call #1 that? # 166: #2 Oh we had # pastures then. {NS} Interviewer: Okay and the undesirable grass in a {NS} uh uh cotton field that you have to get rid of what what different kind #1 gra- what? # 166: #2 {D: Bermuda grass} # {D: Bermuda} Interviewer: #1 What else you remember any? # 166: #2 {X} # {NS} Oh what's the name of that that old stuff the roots get in there Interviewer: Johnson grass is that #1 is it yes # 166: #2 Johnson grass. # Interviewer: {NS} They were the worst? 166: Oh that was the worst. {NS} You dig it up by the roots and the next day you come back and it'd be Interviewer: Back again. 166: Back again. Interviewer: mm-kay {NW} and what do you call all those uh {NS} any other different kinds of weeds do you remember chopping out that one did uh {NS} in the garden or out in the cotton? {NS} 166: Uh sand spurs. Interviewer: okay that was 166: They'd stick you to death. Interviewer: Right okay and the {NS} cotton and corn grow in a? {NS} 166: Field. {NS} Interviewer: Okay and uh do you have any uh words that mean uh {NS} a larger or a smaller {NS} uh {NS} area like well that's just a little something of cotton {NS} 166: Little patch. Interviewer: Okay 166: had me a little patch then cuz we had an allowance so they can't have much cotton. Interviewer: #1 That's right. # 166: #2 Used to # we could plant much cotton as we wanted to and peanuts too. Interviewer: yes 'm Is peanuts restricted now too? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: I didn't {NS} okay. {NS} Uh what about fences mrs {B} what about different kinds of fences? 166: Well you'd you'd cut the rails so you get barb wire but used to old times. Interviewer: What kind of wire? 166: You could buy uh {NS} wire to fence wire Interviewer: yes 'm 166: and put it up. {NS} But in olden times you went to the woods and cut {D: you know} {NS} logs up {NS} and made your own fence out of #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: {NS} Interviewer: #1 and # 166: #2 That's # {NS} that's wood Interviewer: Uh-huh and did you uh uh {NS} did you ever hear that called a worm fence that rail fence that no? {NS} Okay uh what would you call a kind of wire fence that if you climbed over it you might {NS} snag your clothes on? {NS} 166: uh Interviewer: eh {NS} 166: It has one thing to it {NS} wha- {NS} Interviewer: Barb- {NS} Barb something {NS} 166: Oh shoot I don't remember mine {NS} there's plum many kinds {NS} it has these old stickers in it Interviewer: Yes 'm is it barbed wire? {NS} Barbed or 166: Barb wire Interviewer: #1 {D: Barb put on} # 166: #2 {D: mm-hmm put on} # Interviewer: #1 How how do you say it? # 166: #2 {D: top of the} # Barb wire Interviewer: Okay {NS} And um {NS} what about uh {NS} pailing fence or uh {NS} #1 Any # 166: #2 Passing. # {NS} Passing it up is that what you need? Interviewer: Oh well I was wondering about different name for different kind of snake and rider fence you never heard of? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: okay {NS} And uh intervals on a wire fence I know you have to put something upright on a nail 166: Post Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: #1 {D: I want to post} # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # yes 166: Maybe post put in then {NS} throw your wire up on it. Interviewer: Okay And what about if you want to make a hen start laying something that you put in the nest to fool her? {NS} Do you remember 166: Yeah I used to let the {NS} my sutter hen and had s- {NS} some {NS} rotten eggs left you know something in there so I put them in there and take some fresh ones out. {NS} Interviewer: mm-kay what did you call that do you remember if you put 'em {NS} Did you ever see on made out of anything #1 not a real egg. # 166: #2 Oh yeah # {NS} Made out of {NS} it's not plastic it's white stuff Interviewer: #1 The same thing like your # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 good dishes are made out of maybe # 166: #2 yeah mm-hmm # Interviewer: what would you call that? {NS} What do you say generally talking about your dishes you might say well these are {NS} not just everyday dishes this is maybe it's an antique this is real good {NS} 166: Nest eggs that's what I call- Interviewer: Okay what about uh {NS} uh {NS} the {NS} the place a uh abroad where the the oriental come from the people you know with the their eyes were slanted and so forth. {NS} China {NS} Y- you use that you ever use that word china to do with dishes? {NS} 166: Yeah I've used um {NS} Interviewer: How would you say that you tell me this not my everyday dishes this is my good 166: China dishes Interviewer: Okay {NS} And what about what would you carry water in? {NS} 166: Jugs Interviewer: Okay and what about if it were bigger than that and open at the top? {NS} had a {NS} handle over {NS} 166: You'd have to take it by the handle Interviewer: Okay and uh um {NS} if you uh how did you did y'all have a well? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: And what would you {NS} the kind you cranked down in or? {NS} 166: Yeah we had it where you had to let the bucket down get a bucket of water and draw it back up. Interviewer: #1 Okay and what was the or yes ma'am # 166: #2 It was the olden days and in the # {NS} earlier days {NS} from that {NS} we had pumps you have to pump it. Interviewer: Yes 'm {NS} what would that bucket be made out of mrs {B} 166: Tin. Interviewer: Okay You ever seen 166: #1 Sometime # Interviewer: #2 them made of # 166: I've seen them old wooden buckets go go down in there {NS} Interviewer: And what sort of container would you have to carry food maybe scraps left over from the kitchen to take those scraps #1 to the- # 166: #2 Harvest can. # Interviewer: Okay back on the farm if it sat in the 166: Well that's what what we kept for the hogs that was just slops Interviewer: Yes 'm and you call that the the thing you carried it in the slop 166: mm-hmm slop bucket. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and what about uh what do you call the uh the kitchen utensil that you fry eggs in? 166: Spider. {NS} Interviewer: Okay any other words {NS} 166: Griddle. {NS} Interviewer: Okay #1 {X} # 166: #2 Griddle # I cook with old griddles now. Interviewer: Okay 166: Cook me a whole cake of bread of lots #1 {D: on about} # Interviewer: #2 Right. # 166: that big around. Interviewer: Right do you remember on that had legs on it and they would #1 {X} # 166: #2 Yeah cook at # fire place Interviewer: Was that called a spider too? 166: {NS} I done forgot what that was c- {NS} called. {NS} But it was took took the place of spiders. {NS} I can't remember the name of that but I had one. Interviewer: Yes 166: And we used to bake potatoes in it. Interviewer: uh-huh Did it have a lid? {NS} 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: It had a lid and it set in it 166: #1 {D: You know} # Interviewer: #2 right. # 166: you can call them spiders {D: I reckon. } Interviewer: okay 166: But anyway you put 'em in fireplace and they have legs {NS} and you puts fire under that and we bake potatoes in 'em and {NS} then we have baked potatoes just pulled in {NS} long time ago old {X} {NS} all warm let 'em stay there and bake. Interviewer: um 166: Parch peanuts in 'em. Interviewer: #1 yes # 166: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: yes okay. {NS} What about a heavy iron vessel with a large opening that maybe was used on the farm? {NS} Maybe for 166: Pot? #1 {D: that's pot} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Okay {NS} and uh would you call that anything else maybe cook uh {NS} uh 166: Hog heads and things in it when you kill hog. Interviewer: Okay would you ever call that a kettle? {NS} 166: No it never was called a kettle. #1 Because a kettle has a # Interviewer: #2 Okay what was # 166: round and had a mouth to it {NS} and that's what we used to use on the stove #1 you know # Interviewer: #2 Oh # 166: to heat our water. Interviewer: #1 Poured out of # 166: #2 You know # we had a stoves end and we just {NS} set it inside there and let fire come to it. Interviewer: Okay okay and what do you call a container that you uh {NS} uh {NS} put flowers in? {NS} Maybe bring it in the house. 166: {D: bring is pot holders} Interviewer: Okay and what about one maybe it's made out of china or something that you just set put good flowers in {NS} in the house like you like pick some roses or something and set? {NS} 166: I don't know what you call #1 that. # Interviewer: #2 uh # What do you call that little thing up on top of your uh {NS} 166: Vase. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh {NS} What are the eating utensils that you set by each plate when you're setting the table? {NS} 166: {C: giggles} Not a fork and a spoon. Interviewer: Yes 'm {NS} and uh after the dishes are all dirty you say well {NS} uh I now I've we finished supper we finished lunch I have to go 166: Wash the dishes. Interviewer: And uh after you wash them if you let clear water run over them you say that's? 166: Rinse 'em {NS} Interviewer: And uh what do you use the rag that you use to wash the dishes with? 166: Dish rag. {NS} Interviewer: And uh to dry them you use a? 166: The dry cloth. {NS} Interviewer: Okay and what do you call the little square of terry cloth that you use to bathe your face with? {NS} 166: Soap? Interviewer: No the piece of cloth #1 that you use. # 166: #2 Oh # Washing rag. Interviewer: And uh after bathing you dry yourself off with 166: #1 Towel. # Interviewer: #2 a? # {NS} And what do you call that little {NS} water pipe at the kitchen sink that you turn the water on with. {NS} #1 You know what # 166: #2 I don't know # it's called faucet. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Okay and what a # 166: #2 That's something # and I got to do today too is get a man come in fix mine it leaking and #1 leaking hot water on the bath. # Interviewer: #2 Alright I see # {C: I see} Well is there is it the same what about if it's outside and you turn a hose 166: There a faucet. Interviewer: Faucet alright. {NS} And uh {NS} It was so cold last night that the pipes did this #1 What # 166: #2 Froze. # Interviewer: #1 what and if they they # 166: #2 Froze. # Interviewer: froze and they actually {NS} 166: Busted. {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: But I fix mine and I haven't had not one freeze here but one time since I been here. Interviewer: {C: that's right} {NS} uh okay People used to buy flour not in a little bag like this but in a great big {NS} 166: And they used to take wheat and have it ground up too #1 we did we made home # Interviewer: #2 Yes 'm yes # 166: made we'd have it carried {NS} lot of it to {NS} mill Interviewer: Yes 'm {NS} 166: and have it ground up. Interviewer: mm-hmm what did you call the amount that you took to the mill do you remember a word for it? 166: Well we carried a lot of it if had the children was home and hadn't always had {NS} niggers to help 'em {NS} so we'd have to take a right smart of it. Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever {NS} have you heard the word a turn a turn of meal 166: A turn uh-huh. Interviewer: Is that would you have said that {NS} just to mean the amount that you take #1 one # 166: #2 It's any # amount you carried. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh {NS} What about something that you might have to roll off of a wagon something kind of big and on a couple of logs something kind of big what uh it's shaped maybe this high and kind of rounded maybe it has something around it's maybe wood {NS} and uh something around it to hold it together {NS} I think they pack the tobacco in it maybe some places {NS} 166: I don't know what that is Interviewer: um {NS} 166: I ought to know it but I can't think right now. {NS} Interviewer: uh maybe they kept uh {NS} meal or flour in it or maybe even sugar. {NS} uh a long time ago we'll {NS} talk about that once more. {NS} What about what did molasses come in when you used to buy it in rather large quantities? {NS} 166: Come in five gallon cans. Interviewer: Okay 166: We used to make it and we kept it in {NS} jars save it up in jars Interviewer: okay- {NS} 166: But you can put it in anything you want #1 to. # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 166: We put ours in jars and in cans too we put it in cans Interviewer: What about how did you keep the lard? {NS} 166: You store {NS} dry the {NS} lard up and put it in the pantry {NS} Interviewer: #1 And uh what kind of container # 166: #2 it stay that # {NS} Can uh {NS} can {NS} can Interviewer: Okay. 166: fifty pound. Interviewer: A fifty and you call that the lard {NS} 166: We used to make four or five {NS} cans a year {X} Interviewer: Did you ever call it a stand or a lard stand or {NS} no? 166: mm-mm Interviewer: Just a can okay. {NS} And what about if you had a {NS} a glass dish that you put on the table with maybe molasses or syrup or something {NS} s- 166: Oh {NS} what do you call it? Interviewer: Would you call that a stand? {NS} 166: Syrup {NS syrup pitcher. Interviewer: Pitcher okay. {NS} And what do you use to pour water into a bottle that has a real narrow top you had to put something up into pouring? 166: I know it I done just did it. Interviewer: Ha. {NS} What do you call that thing on {NS} funnel maybe? 166: Funnel uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay {NW} and if you want your horses to go faster when you're riding you have to use a? {NS} 166: Whip. {NS} Interviewer: And uh {NS} if you bought fruit at the store the grocer might put them in a? {NS} What would he put 'em in for you? 166: Paper bag. {NS} Interviewer: And uh What about if it were made of cloth {NS} what would you call it? 166: {D: lord} we used to we buy flour was to take that flour sack and wash 'em and make {NS} children little pants out of 'em #1 long time ago. # Interviewer: #2 yes # Yes and that was called they didn't call that a bag they called that a sack? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: Get the letters out of it you'd have to soak and get the letters out of it and I {NS} bought my chicken feed that way too. {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 166: I had I'd wash 'em and then sell them things twenty-five cents a piece and niggers would buy them and {NS} make dresses out of 'em. Interviewer: {D: Really?} Okay. 166: They hundred pound. Interviewer: Yes 'm what about uh uh {NS} the l- the heavy rough cloth {NS} that they use to carry maybe potatoes in or uh {NS} uh {NS} #1 The # 166: #2 We used to # call them sacks we used to put our potatoes in a sack and then take 'em and {NS} put some straw down in a deep hole and bed 'em and they {X} {NS} Interviewer: Do you remember uh using a word to say a certain kind of a sack? {NS} #1 To disting- # 166: #2 cotton sacks. # Interviewer: What? 166: Cotton sacks. Interviewer: Okay have you ever heard uh {NS} toe sack {NS} or gunny sack {NS} 166: mm-mm Interviewer: burlap bag? {NS} 166: Burlap I heard of that. Interviewer: #1 Burlap you say? # 166: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: Okay. {NS} um {NS} When the light burns out in an electric lamp you say you have to put in a new? {NS} You know that thing you turn in? 166: {NS} {X} {C: laughter} Interviewer: {X} {C: laughter} Sometimes you use 'em when you planting flowers your gladiolas for example or {NS} you plant {NS} not seed but the little {NS} 166: uh {NS} Roots? Interviewer: Bul- {NS} 166: Bulbs. #1 Bulbs that's # Interviewer: #2 And that's a # {NS} {D: If put} 166: That's what that is that's bulbs. Interviewer: Okay a light bulb #1 say that # 166: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: word for me please. 166: Light bulb. Interviewer: Yes ma'am okay When you carry the washing out to hang it on the line you carry it out in what? {NS} 166: Baskets Interviewer: okay 166: I got uh one of these big baskets about that high. {NS} Interviewer: And uh what do nails come in? {NS} Do you remember when they bought {NS} 166: used to come in uh little boxes Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 used # to but it's changed now you go buy 'em and in just {NS} Interviewer: paper bag 166: paper bags Interviewer: Okay {NS} uh have you uh ever heard it uh called a a keg? {NS} 166: Yeah I heard it called a keg a great big uh keg a round {NS} keg and it'd be about that high. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 When you were # going to buy 'em for a house anything you'd buy 'em in that keg. Interviewer: okay 166: But just what few I get I get in a paper sack. Interviewer: okay and a thing that looks like a #1 keg # 166: #2 But you don't # ever see none of them now. Interviewer: No. Well that's what I was asking you about a thing that looks like a keg but was bigger would be a what? {NS} Ba {NS} 166: {X} Interviewer: uh but a wooden thing like that not a bigger than a keg but a barrel. 166: Barrel uh-huh Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 in big barrels. # Interviewer: Barrel that's the one I was wondering about cuz #1 you don't see them any more do you? # 166: #2 {X} # no {NS} Okay and what is it that goes around the barrel or the keg to hold the wood together do you remember those little {NS} Interviewer: #1 Children used to like # 166: #2 That's hoops # I call I used to call them hoops. Interviewer: Yes ma'am #1 alright # 166: #2 See # they would tighten it. Interviewer: Right. {NW} And what about a um {NS} what you put in the top of a bottle. {NS} 166: Stopper. {NS} Interviewer: And uh it's made out of what material? {NS} 166: Now I don't know now what's these Coca-Cola bottles' tops #1 made out of? # Interviewer: #2 Now that's # a metal isn't it. 166: Yeah. Interviewer: Do you remember a long time ago when they used to put one in that stuck inside and it was kinda softer and spongier like? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: What did they call that do you remember? {NS} 166: No I don't. Interviewer: Uh {NS} Cor- {NS} 166: Cork. {NS} Cork. {NS} Cord. {NS} Corpse. Something like that. Interviewer: Okay have you ever heard it called a stopple or a stipple or anything like that? 166: Yeah I've heard of stoppers. Interviewer: Stoppers 166: We use them lots. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And what about uh a musical instrument children play with like this? 166: Harp. {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NS} and what about one that's held between the teeth and plucked? {NS} 166: I don't know what that is. Interviewer: Okay #1 Uh # 166: #2 I think # I ought to know but I don't. Interviewer: Uh well I I'm not familiar with it either but it you hold it between your teeth and pick it with your fingers and it'd make a twanging noise they say. Have you ever heard of a jew's harp? {NS} 166: Yeah. {NS} Interviewer: Yeah? {NS} How would you call it? {NS} 166: Yeah harps what I call #1 it. # Interviewer: #2 Um # just a just {NS} #1 but it's different from just a # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NS} Okay and what do you drive nails with? 166: Hammer. {NS} Interviewer: And uh {NS} what if you have a wagon. {NS} 166: Yeah we had a wagon. Interviewer: Did you have a wagon with two horses what do you call that long thing that went in between the horses? 166: That was uh. {NS} I don't know what to call that I ought to know raised with it. {NS} Interviewer: Uh um Well evidently they called sometimes they called it a tongue or sometimes #1 a pole. # 166: #2 Yeah # it's tongue you got that right #1 now. # Interviewer: #2 Okay # {NS} And what about if you have a horse pulling a buggy what are the two things out beside him that you fasten to {NS} the buggy? {NS} 166: Buggy {NS} {D: Oh now} right on in my tongue my head's got dizzy. {C: laughs} Interviewer: Uh is it uh shafts or 166: Yeah #1 Buggy shafts # Interviewer: #2 How would # 166: uh-huh. Interviewer: okay {NS} Alright well what about one of those buggy wheels or wagon wheel {NS} the uh the outside part do you remember what they call that the metal part? {NS} 166: To a buggy {NW} {NS} Interviewer: To a wheel {NS} you know? {NS} Uh like the wheel in the in the very middle of it that big thing in the middle of it's called the? {NS} 166: It's called a wheel is what I always called Interviewer: #1 Oh # 166: #2 it. # Interviewer: yeah the whole {NS} thing is a wheel. {NS} And the things that go out like this are called spokes? {NS} 166: yeah {NS} Interviewer: And what's that thing in the middle of it do you remember? {NS} 166: No I don't. Interviewer: Uh I uh maybe hub? {NS} 166: Well I think it #1 is I'm not sure. # Interviewer: #2 Okay um # Uh what about uh you know this is {NS} may or may not remember might have ever never had any contact with it but something that outside uh {NS} part of the wheel do you remember that as being the rim? {NS} 166: I sorta say that. Interviewer: Yeah? 166: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: uh the {NS} 166: Just fixing to say it #1 {D: before you said.} # Interviewer: #2 Okay # uh what about have you ever heard uh {NS} uh {NS} of felly? {NS} 166: What? Interviewer: Felly as a part of a wheel {NS} the felly? {NS} 166: I don't remember that I #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 I didn't either # I didn't think there was one of the words in here and I wanted to see if you I 166: {D: had um} {NS} We used to have the wheels but I never did mess with such as that #1 since my husband # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 166: fooled with it. Interviewer: Right 166: Hub now I remember the hub part. Interviewer: Yes 'm Do you remember what when they were going to plow {NS} uh a piece of wood across the back that the animal was hitched to? {NS} A piece of wood {NS} like this it had a hook on each end and the harness or something was fastened to it and then you pulled on that. {NS} 166: Yeah I remember but we now I don't remember us ever doing it but {NS} that's a level uh {NS} Interviewer: #1 uh # 166: #2 a land # off I reckon Interviewer: Okay uh. {NS} 166: That's what I Interviewer: A leveler did you call it or what about a singletree do you know what a single #1 tree is? # 166: #2 Well a # singletree you hitch that to the mule you know. Interviewer: Yes. 166: That's {NS} Interviewer: You remember anything else that might have been called? {NS} What about if there were two of them you know like there were two mules pulling? {NS} 166: mm-hmm {NS} They called that singletree. Interviewer: okay {NS} #1 Okay # 166: #2 That's # what we always called Interviewer: Alright and if you had apparently if you had uh {NS} like a singletree here and a singletree here and then there'd be a thing back here that pulled both of them together somehow {NS} apparently that was sometimes called a doubletree that doesn't uh {NS} 166: It's double uh two mules do it at once. Interviewer: #1 Yeah it was two mules? # 166: #2 Yeah # that's double. Interviewer: Double tree. {NS} Okay {NS} and uh if a man had a load of wood on his wagon and he was driving along what would you say he was doing he's? 166: Haulin- hauling wood. Interviewer: yes 'm {NS} And if there's a log across the road then you'd say #1 uh # 166: #2 It's a log. # Interviewer: {NS} mm-hmm and you might say {NS} I tied a rope to it and {NS} 166: Drug it out. Interviewer: Yes 'm {NS} and uh {NW} What about the thing you use to break the ground with in the spring? {NS} 166: Harrow. {NS} Interviewer: Uh okay and was that the first one that you used did you use something that kind of turned it went in a blade and {NS} sort of turned it over {NS} before the {NS} #1 Before the harrow # 166: #2 They used to # {NS} have plows that would do that. Interviewer: bef- did you use that before you used the harrow? {NS} 166: No use harrow first. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh what do you remember and different kinds of {NS} harrows or different names for 'em? {NS} 166: No that's all I've ever known. Interviewer: Okay {NS} Uh {NS} You ever heard of a spring tooth harrow? {NS} 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: {NS} What is a spring do you know do your remember uh {NS} what a spring toothed harrow was? {NS} 166: I we just called it harrow #1 I think. # Interviewer: #2 No there was it was a harrow. # 166: It was a harrow. Interviewer: Okay {C: 166 laughs} 166: {NW} Interviewer: And the wheels of a wagon fit onto that thing that goes across under it #1 it's in a cart. # 166: #2 Under it across. # {NS} What is it cross {NS} Interviewer: uh {NS} 166: Cross something. {NS} Interviewer: Uh no a cross piece #1 crossguard # 166: #2 a cross # Interviewer: What about the things that go between the wheels of a car? {NS} The {NS} axle or axe what do you do you know {NS} you know an ax- you know axle? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: That's is that the same uh 166: Just I say that's on the same thing that Interviewer: okay 166: only it's different {NS} Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 {D: different} # material and everything. Interviewer: {NS} Do you remember a word for a thing that you might lay a log across to chop the end of saw it off? {NS} 166: Saw. {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NS} uh the the saw would be the thing you pulled back and forth well what about a frame like that you might have had two things like this and you'd lay a log across it and? {NS} 166: Saw it up. Interviewer: uh-huh 166: That's what we used to do. Interviewer: Okay you remember a {NS} it's uh a {NS} one like this {NS} that things were laid across you know a wooden thing like this that came to a point like there'd be a leg down this way and a leg down this way and they'd take two of 'em and lay a plank across it. {NS} No? {NS} 166: No I don't I don't remember that. Interviewer: Yeah well when they saw the big logs up didn't they have to get them up in the air? {NS} 166: Yeah. {NS} Interviewer: How did 166: #1 Couldn't # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: saw 'em on the ground. Interviewer: right 166: and that's {NS} cross {NS} cross something. Interviewer: uh {NS} 166: But they put it in there because I I've had to saw on 'em. Interviewer: Okay {NS} You helped saw? 166: Yeah Interviewer: yes? 166: I ought to know what it #1 is. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # well easy to forget okay. {NS} You uh when you're when you get up you straighten your hair with a comb and uh {NS} 166: Brush. {NS} Interviewer: And if you had a straight razor to sharpen it you'd use a leather {NS} 166: {D: They had to use sharpen these old time razors} {NS} long then but after you got to electric it was different. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 166: What do you call that thing? A strap? Interviewer: Okay {NS} And what what sort of ammunition do you put in a revolver? {NS} 166: Shells. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. and uh uh if they're they're the whole load things into the {NS} not the shells go in shotguns too is there #1 do you remember? # 166: #2 That's what I was saying. # Interviewer: yes 'm The little ones for the revolvers might be called a cart- {NS} Remember one that starts cartridge? {NS} 166: Cartridge. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And what about a kind of toy that you might make for the children to play on a plank laid over a {NS} some sort of a support. 166: A log and then Interviewer: #1 One'd sit on each end. # 166: #2 jump up on mm-hmm # Interviewer: {NW} #1 What is- # 166: #2 Seesaw. # Interviewer: Okay. What about one that you started telling me about I think it has a support here and a support here and plank across it and they'd sit on it and jump #1 up in the middle. # 166: #2 {D: What?} # {NS} They'd um stand on it and jump you know. Interviewer: Yeah. 166: Go up and down one on one end one on the other and one would go this way and {NS} the other one would go the other way and I don't know what you call it. {NS} Interviewer: Okay you ever heard of a joggling board? {NS} 166: It might be I don't Interviewer: You don't remember okay. {NS} Well what about a kind of homemade uh {NS} uh toy that would be like a post or something in a {NS} a plank nailed on it that would go around and around? 166: We um {NS} we um {NS} Interviewer: Have you ever heard uh 166: Wheel that's what I call a wheel. Interviewer: Okay 166: just like grinding soap up Interviewer: And if the children uh-huh are playing uh {NS} on the seesaw what do you say they're doing they're {NS} 166: Seesawing. {NS} Interviewer: And what do you the thing that is suspended from a limb of a tree {NS} with ropes and they sit in it and 166: Swing. {NS} Interviewer: And uh what do you carry coal in? 166: Bucket. {NS} Interviewer: And uh uh what goes from the stove out here up to the chimney up? {NS} 166: Sto- um {NS} What is this? {NS} Stove flue no it's not the flute Interviewer: #1 Is the flue up in # 166: #2 Pipe pipe. # Interviewer: Pipe okay what's the flue that thing up there that it goes into? {NS} Okay And what about a little small thing a little vehicle to carry bricks or other heavy things in it has a little wheel in front and two handles {NS} 166: That's that's a {NS} wheelbarrow. {NS} Interviewer: And uh {NS} if you have a blade like a scythe or something {NS} uh that you had out on the farm maybe that you use to uh sharpen it with what would you call what you use to #1 sharpen? # 166: #2 We just # we just sharpen on a {NS} turn it you turn it over Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What did you call that do you remember? {NS} 166: Oh goodly I look like I ought to remember. Interviewer: #1 Well there are several names here # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: whetstone rubstone whetrock? 166: Whetrock. Interviewer: #1 Whetrock? # 166: #2 Whetrock mm-hmm. # Interviewer: {NS} Okay {NS} or what about if it uh {NS} is is I guess bigger and on a stand #1 and you can't # 166: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: move it around what about a grind stone #1 or a # 166: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: grind you remember #1 that one too? # 166: #2 Grindstone uh-huh. # You didn't do that with a wheel too. Interviewer: {NW} 166: Have a hole in in it and it goes through {NS} wheel. {NS} I left mine out yonder {NS} ought to brought it with me. Interviewer: Yeah ha ha 166: {D: it moves} Interviewer: Mm-kay and the thing that uh {NS} that you have to do if the car {NS} uh at intervals you have to take the car to lubricate it you say I have to {NS} 166: Get it um {NS} Interviewer: #1 Are you # 166: #2 Tuned up # I reck- Interviewer: Okay and what about if you cook {NS} or fry meat you have to pour off the 166: Grease. {NS} Interviewer: and uh {NS} if you uh {NS} {C: audio quality changes} uh {NS} if you're cooking and you get uh grease on your hands you say oh what a mess my hands are all? {NS} 166: Greasy. Interviewer: mm-kay And if you have a door hinge that's squeaking what do you say you ought to do to it? {NS} 166: Put some grease on it Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 oil on it. # Interviewer: Some what? 166: Oil put some oil on it. {NS} Interviewer: And what is it that you used to burn in lamps? {NS} 166: Kerosene {NS} Interviewer: Do you still ever use that? 166: No I don't 'em now I use current. Interviewer: The electricity never goes off here? {NS} 166: No we didn't have electric then when I was coming on you talking about when I was Interviewer: #1 Yes ma'am. # 166: #2 coming on? # We didn't have electric then. {NS} We used straight old lamps and we had wash 'em and put kerosene in 'em nearly every day. Interviewer: mm mm-kay {NS} Uh did you ever hear of a long time ago {NS} uh making uh {NS} a kind of makeshift lamp and you'd use maybe a {NS} a rag and a {NS} a bottle with some kerosene. 166: Yeah mm-hmm Interviewer: What did you call that do you remember? {NS} 166: I don't know what the name of it was but you could you'd get a {NS} thing and put in there wick what you put in there and you could burn it just like a lamb lamp. {NS} Interviewer: W- did you ever do that? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Yes would you just call it a light or something? 166: Yeah mother did when I was growing up I seen her do it lot of times when she was way back in the old times showing up. Interviewer: Sure did you ever hear that called a a torch or a flambone you ever hear it called a flambone? {NS} 166: I been call a torch I never heard of flambone. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and um {NS} toothpaste generally comes in a {NS} 166: Tube. {NS} Interviewer: And uh if uh if somebody had a boat that they were going to put into the water then they might say they're going to uh {NS} to put it in the water {NS} 166: Swim? {NS} Interviewer: uh {NS} What about if they're going to put the boat in the water how would they say that they're going down to the river maybe to put the {NS} the boat in the water how would they say that they're going to? {NS} 166: Well in them days they didn't have boats. Interviewer: Right there weren't any boats #1 around? # 166: #2 uh # There weren't any then when I was coming up course it got {NS} older I got they come in. Interviewer: Right. 166: But they didn't have boats then. Interviewer: You didn't have river or a a stream near where you lived? {NS} 166: Yeah they had streams {NS} creeks and #1 things # Interviewer: #2 Right. # 166: but that's why they're going to go swimming Interviewer: #1 Right. # 166: #2 {D: that's just what that} # that's as shallow as it take. Interviewer: Right {NS} and uh they didn't uh your your father never built a moat or anything to go fishing in? 166: uh-huh {NS} He died when I was twelve years old and I don't #1 remember. # Interviewer: #2 Don't remember that's right. # {NS} #1 Um # 166: #2 Remember him # but I mean don't nothing like that I know he didn't do nothing like that though. Interviewer: You never did go fishing yourself? {NS} 166: One time Interviewer: Is that right? 166: and I fell in the pond. Interviewer: Oh no {C: laughs} 166: {D: I fell} {NS} year before last my sister wanted to go fishing so we went out there {NS} got in the boat {NS} and there's a lady {NS} and her husband up there start crying {NS} I caught a fish first one I ever caught. {NS} Interviewer: And you were excited? 166: And then threw it back again and I caught another one {NS} it went dead and went over chair and all in the pond. {C: int laughs} Interviewer: like 166: {D: threw me down yeah} Interviewer: yes and how long ago was that? 166: It's a wonder I hadn't a drowned. {NW} I went up and the chair went with me. Interviewer: {C: laughs} 166: But I got excited #1 and the # Interviewer: #2 sure # 166: lady was talking to me {NW} you got it you got it {B} you got it and so {NS} that's how come me to get excited #1 you know? # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 166: I went over into the pond yeah I'll remember that the rest of my life. {NS} You ought to've seen me when I got home oh {X} Interviewer: {C: laughs} 166: And I kept my glasses on and my teeth in my mouth too but I lost one shoe. {NS} Interviewer: {C: laughs} {NS} 166: You didn't want all that in there though. Interviewer: Oh that's fine. {NS} If um {NS} if a child is learning to dress himself the mother may bring his clothes in to him and say {NS} 166: {X} Interviewer: Okay 166: put 'em on. Interviewer: {NS} and uh {NS} If uh you're about to have an {NS} election and uh {NS} I ask you if you think uh {NS} oh uh {NS} uh Jimmy Carter is gonna be president you might say {NS} no I don't think so but. {NS} 166: But the other one will Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 {D: Whoever running} # Interviewer: {NS} Or some people do or something mm okay. {NS} If you uh {NS} if you met a little boy in the street and he seems afraid you might tell him {NW} you're not going to hurt him you say don't cry I {NS} 166: I'd try to find his mother for him. Interviewer: Okay {NS} uh 166: And of course I'd tell him not to cry too. Interviewer: Uh {NS} um {NS} If you want to say that uh oh its you want to pet a dog or something that belongs to child you might say {NS} send your dog over here I {NS} or hurt him I how would you say that I would I just want to pet him I. {NS} 166: Want to pet the dog. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} uh {NW} if you're having an argument with someone and if you want to ask him if he didn't think you were right about this you might say {NS} well um you think I'm right {NS} and I'm right. {NS} 166: I was I know I'm right. Interviewer: Okay and if you want to ask him if he thinks so too you might say don't or {NS} do you don't you {NS} 166: He's liable to disagree. Interviewer: mm-kay {NS} If um {NS} if you were going into town with the uh eh your family and uh {NS} and someone you offered someone else a ride {NS} and they thanked you for it you might say oh don't mention it we were? {NS} 166: Going anyway. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh {NS} if you were talking about the old days when everything was different you might lean back and say oh {NS} the good old days {NS} 166: That's right. Interviewer: The how would you say that? {NS} 166: I still say that was good old days when we was coming up #1 it was hard days # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 166: but it was good days. Interviewer: Yes ma'am alright. {NS} And uh if somebody says uh {NS} was that {NS} you I saw in town yesterday you might say no it {NS} 166: s- s- somebody else Interviewer: okay {NS} it {NS} not me how would you say that it? {NS} 166: Cuz I was home working. Interviewer: Okay it uh {NS} not me it {NS} it what it wasn't me how would you say that it what? {NS} 166: I say it wasn't. {NS} Interviewer: #1 mm-kay # 166: #2 It # wasn't me. {NS} Interviewer: and uh {NS} if a woman wants to buy a dress {NS} of a certain color {NS} she might take a little square of cloth with her to the store and she'd say she's going to use it as a? {NS} 166: Sample. {NS} Interviewer: And uh if you're talking about a dress that you like very much {NS} and uh but then there's on that you like even better you might say well that's a? {NS} 166: Pretty. Interviewer: But that other one is even? {NS} 166: Prettier. Interviewer: Yes ma'am. {NS} And what might you wear over your dress in the kitchen? {NS} 166: Apron house coat one. Interviewer: Okay and if you want to sign your name in ink you have to use a {NS} to write with? 166: Pen. {NS} Interviewer: And to hold a baby's diaper in place you use a? {NS} 166: Safety pin. {NS} Interviewer: Uh how's that? 166: Safety pins you have to pin them on. Interviewer: okay and 166: They're different though now. Interviewer: You don't have to have a pin. 166: {D: No you have to double the} I had to put three pins in 'em {NS} when I was raising my children. {NS} {X} {NS} {C: sawing?} Interviewer: And um {NS} uh soup if you buy soup you usually get it in a what? {NS} 166: You mean a size? Interviewer: Uh a soup uh if you buy soup it comes in a what? {NS} 166: Jar. {NS} Interviewer: Or a? {NS} 166: Can. {NS} Interviewer: What kind of can what's it made of? {NS} 166: Do what? Interviewer: What is the can made of usually? {NS} 166: Aluminum isn't it? Interviewer: Aluminum or it might be just a? {NS} 166: I don't really know but there's another {NS} that's a can about all I know. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh it it the you might say {NS} well uh we had a drinking cup out there and it was made of {NS} 166: {D: glassware} {NS} Interviewer: #1 {D: Glass alright} # 166: #2 Y- Yeah # {D: If it's a glass whatever it it glassware.} Interviewer: And if it was one of those silver looking ones you might say hand me that? {NS} A kind of cup but not a glass one but a metal one {NS} 166: Like right on down there? Interviewer: Right now that's uh plastic isn't it? {NS} No? 166: No. Interviewer: Oh it's glass? {NS} 166: yeah {NS} Interviewer: Oops. {NS} 166: type of glass is that? {X} but it's a cup. Interviewer: Yes okay. 166: From nineteen look on there. Interviewer: Oh it's uh the bicentennial cup. 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: That's right seventeen #1 years. # 166: #2 I won # them playing bingo. {NS} uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: Well a long time ago maybe {NS} uh if you had a {NS} a cup that you uh {NS} drank water out of out on the porch {NS} 166: Tin cup. Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: Yeah that's what you put out on the porch I imagine that's what we used to do. Interviewer: Right. 166: We used to have dippers too. Interviewer: Right. 166: Gourd dippers. Interviewer: Gourds? 166: Gourd. {NS} Cut {NS} cut around you know and have a half handle. {NS} That's the best water you can drink. Interviewer: Right {NS} and uh you might say a dime is worth {NS} how much? {NS} 166: What? {NS} Interviewer: A dime is worth? {NS} 166: Two nickels. Interviewer: Or {NS} 166: One piece. Interviewer: uh yes or if you're talking about how many pennies or cents you might say it's worth? {NS} A dime is worth uh {NS} two nickels or {NS} 166: Two nickels is all I know. Interviewer: If you count how many pennies or how many #1 cents? # 166: #2 Oh. # {NS} Ten #1 pennies. # Interviewer: #2 {D: No} # just want you know how you pronounce that. 166: You better tell. Interviewer: Yeah. {C: laughs} Okay and when you go out in the winter time and it's cold you have to put on a? {NS} 166: Coat on. {NS} Sweater. {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 166: They gonna take you down and get through with me if we keep answering #1 {D: this fast. } # Interviewer: #2 No # no we're going fine you stop and tell me anything you want. {NS} Uh and you know what you uh you say talking about uh you might say oh look what pretty buttons that coat has. {NS} 166: In front. Interviewer: How 166: In front. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} and um {NS} sometimes a a man between his shirt and his coat he wears another little? {NS} 166: A vest. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Okay and a man's suit consists of a coat and a vest and his? {NS} 166: Shorts {NS} Interviewer: Alright uh but the suit #1 suit itself. # 166: #2 Pants. # Interviewer: Okay {NS} and um {NS} you use any other words or remember any other words for a man's pants would you say any other way? {NS} What about the kind of uh {NS} uh uh man's wearing a pair of he used to wear to work out in the fields in? {NS} 166: That's overalls. Interviewer: Alright. {NS} 166: That's what my husband used to work in. Interviewer: Right. 166: and of that they they {NS} Wasn't tied around here and that's all he wanted was overall. Interviewer: And they fastened up here? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: What did he call those things that fastened? {NS} 166: um {NS} What did he call 'em straps I believe. Interviewer: Some kind of straps or gallus? {NS} You ever heard 'em called a gallus or galluses? {NS} 166: Must've been might've been galluses all along to overalls cross back here and come here you know and fasten there that's {C: int coughs} call that. Interviewer: Maybe uh maybe galluses or maybe just 166: And there's hard washing cuz you gotta Interviewer: I bet so #1 {X} # 166: #2 Overalls are # hard to wash. {NS} Interviewer: What about uh the uh {NS} the things that men wear sometimes they may wear around the waist to hold the trousers up and they wear a? {NS} 166: Belt. Interviewer: And sometimes they wore those things over this way to hold them up with what did they call them? {NS} 166: {X} {NS} #1 Vest # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: uh under vest. Interviewer: Uh no I'm talking about the one that fastened on to the trousers here and in the back the a kind of strap like {NS} they held men's pants up with? {NS} #1 uh # 166: #2 {X} # {NS} Called something I don't know what #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Sus- # Suspenders 166: Yeah that's what it is. Interviewer: How would you say that? {NS} 166: Suspenders. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} #1 And you # 166: #2 I know # my husband used to wear 'em when I was Interviewer: right. 166: but I couldn't think to save my life. Interviewer: And if you go outdoors in the winter time without your coat somebody might run after you and bring it to you and say here I've {NS} your coat I've {NS} 166: I reckon if it's cold I take it. Interviewer: You take it you'd have to have it. {C: laughter} Okay but if you got it if you forgot it or one of the children forgot it then you might uh. {NS} 166: Send it back. Interviewer: Right and you might say to uh {NS} Johnny come here I've brought your coat or I {NS} your coat to you how would you tell him that? If you had taken it you'd say sonny I've {NS} 166: Take it back? Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh if uh {NS} um {NS} Somebody wants to show you something one of the children wants to show you something it's in their hands and small you might say well I can't see it I can't see it. {NS} It here bring {NS} W- how would you tell him to uh that you want him to come closer with it you might say well bri- {NS} Bring it here? {NS} 166: Br- What? Interviewer: Would you just say well I can't see it over there bring 166: Bring it to me. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} 166: I'm hard of hearing in this ear here #1 over # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: here and do alright but it's just a little bit harder to hear. Interviewer: Okay well maybe I'll sit over this way. {NS} And uh {NS} if you told someone to bring you uh {NS} something and uh the one they {NS} brought to you wasn't the right one you might say oh look you've {NS} the wrong one. {NS} 166: Go back and get the right one. Interviewer: Right you brought the wrong one how would you say it to 'em tell 'em this isn't the right one you {NS} the wrong one. {NS} 166: I'd tell 'em go get {NS} go get the other. Interviewer: Go get the other one. {NS} and uh {NS} if um {NS} you might say uh this coat won't fit me this year {NS} but last year it? {NS} 166: It fit. {NS} Interviewer: okay. 166: I got some clothes right now in the same sea I fell off so much Interviewer: #1 Is that right? # 166: #2 I got some # that's too big and some that's {NS} too small. Interviewer: Right and they fit last year you said 166: Yeah they fit last year but don't fit now. Interviewer: uh-huh 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: And if your uh if a man's uh clothes are worn out you might say well I've got to go to the store and buy a? {NS} 166: I say what I'd have to save is kind of a while to patch 'em. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Hey uh okay {C: laughs} # 166: #2 I patched a # fair many pair #1 of overalls # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 166: pants too. {NS} Them days they'd patch 'em but now they throw 'em away. {NS} Interviewer: Alright and if a man has a matching coat and a pair of pants and he's just bought it {NS} it's not a new one it's not an old one it's a? {NS} 166: New one. Interviewer: New what new? {NS} 166: Suit. Interviewer: Yes ma'am. {NS} Alright and if you stuff a lot of things in the pockets of something it makes them {NS} 166: {D: somehow that's um} {NS} That's uh pocket books. Interviewer: uh-huh and if you've got uh you know a pocket on your dress {NS} or your apron you stuff a lot of things in there and it makes them do what? 166: Stick out? Interviewer: Okay and did you ever use a word like bul- {NS} To say look how {NS} 166: Bulk? {NS} Interviewer: Uh bulge out {NS} 166: uh-huh Interviewer: #1 How # 166: #2 I # use that a lot. Interviewer: How do you say that? {NS} 166: Bulge out. Okay {NS} Interviewer: #1 And # 166: #2 I take 'em out # my pocket now I got dresses with them on 'em and they stick out I call 'em stick out. Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} and uh if uh {NS} you wash something in hot water {NS} and it gets smaller you might say it uh would? {NS} 166: Too hot. {NS} Interviewer: The water would be too hot and what would it do if it got smaller the dress or the sweater would {NS} 166: Shrink. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And if you washed it yesterday you might say look it {NS} 166: {D: smalled up} {NS} Interviewer: It uh how? {NS} 166: Drawed up. Interviewer: Drawed up alright #1 {X} # 166: #2 I gave one # away the other day as I've learned putting in hot water. Interviewer: Yeah it's easy to do that isn't it? Alright and if you'd say that it it say it {NS} shrink yesterday you might say it sh- {NS} Another way would {NS} 166: Shrunk? Interviewer: Okay {NS} and um #1 When you # 166: #2 I don't know what I'm say # answer it right Interviewer: Yeah not it's just whatever you say is right. {C: laughter} It's the different ways of saying it you know. {NS} And um {NS} What are the different ways that maybe you might hear somebody talking about a {NS} a girl getting all pretty to go to a party you might say she's 166: {X} Beautiful Interviewer: Alright and uh if she's enjoying getting herself ready you might say she really likes to {NS} what would you say about the way she does that she likes to {NS} to dress up any other ways you remember of saying that? 166: Yeah {NS} Interviewer: #1 She likes to # 166: #2 Long # time ago there wasn't much dressing up to it. {D: there was} You just put on what you got and on you went didn't have time for all this dressing up they do now. Interviewer: Right do you remember any ways that uh {NS} your mother or older people might say to dress up? {NS} pretty up or fix up or {NS} 166: {D: they had to} Fix the hair. Interviewer: uh-huh 166: They always wore it when I was growing you know they wore it back here. {NS} When I was small they wore it in pigtails {NS} plaited. {NS} And um {NS} then {NS} from then on you know they changed. Interviewer: Right you had it cut {X} 166: Never did see mama with no no way that here hair just balled up back here and she lived to ninety-six years old. Interviewer: Is that right? {NS} Okay and what do you call the small leather container with a clasp on it that women carry their money in you usually you say its- 166: Pocketbook Interviewer: Okay 166: Billfold. {NS} Interviewer: Okay what about um {NS} purse do you 166: Purse? Interviewer: you use that? 166: Yeah I use that too. Interviewer: Okay how do you call it? {NS} 166: #1 Purse # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # {NS} And what does a woman wear around her wrist? {NS} 166: Watch? Interviewer: And if it doesn't tell the time it's just for decoration you might say it's a? {NS} 166: Stopped. {NS} Interviewer: Okay if it's not a watch if it's just something that looks pretty you know maybe it's pearls or something it's not a watch it's a? {NS} a bra- {NS} 166: {NW} {NS} What is it now it's right on the end of my tongue. Interviewer: {C: laughs} {NS} Um bracelet do you say? 166: Yeah you can say bracelet. Interviewer: mm-kay {NS} And what about dif- a little things strung together to wear around your 166: Beads. Interviewer: How 166: Beads. Interviewer: okay {NS} And if you're talking about them you might say {NS} put on this {NS} of beads how would you say 166: Match the dress too. Interviewer: Okay would you call it a {NS} say uh that's a real pretty {NS} of beads real pretty what real pretty {NS} 166: I say beads Interviewer: #1 okay # 166: #2 that's what # we used to call 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh would you be more likely to say a string of beads or a pair of beads? {NS} 166: String. Interviewer: String of beads okay. {NS} And uh. {NS} Uh what do you hold over you when it rains? {NS} 166: Parasol. {NS} Interviewer: Okay or a you only say parasol? {NS} 166: I just say parasol that's what we used them days but now they use {NS} these other things. Interviewer: uh-huh 166: My days it was parasol. {NS} Okay Interviewer: #1 What # 166: #2 You went to school # every morning and you thought it was going to rain you better take your parasol. Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Well did uh {NS} did you have different kinds of them did you ever call 'em set of parasol call them an um- {NS} umbrella? {NS} 166: Yeah they call 'em umbrella. {NS} Interviewer: uh {NS} It wasn't a matter of which one you wore to keep the sun off was it? {NS} 166: uh-uh {NS} Interviewer: You just {NS} generally you said a parasol for when they're 166: I just say parasol for sun and um {NS} Interviewer: Rain. 166: Rain too. Interviewer: Right. {NS} Oh 166: Use 'em for both. {NS} Interviewer: But now you were talking about they might wear a little plastic uh {NW} thing over your head 166: I call 'em head rags. Interviewer: A head rag right. {C: 166 laughs} Okay 166: That's too new though to put in that. {NS} Interviewer: Uh what's the last thing when you're fixing the bed what's the last thing you put on it? {NS} 166: On what? Interviewer: On the bed when you're making up the bed in the bedroom you put 166: The spread last one. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And do you ever call that anything else ever if it's real fancy or something do you remember hearing it called anything besides a spread? {NS} 166: No I don't. Interviewer: Do you remember {X} counterpane or? {NS} 166: I got a new fancy one in there on that one my daughter gave me whether you call it a spread I reckon I don't know #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay # 166: {NS} looks real nice the one that she gave me at Christmas. Interviewer: Uh-huh and at the head of the bed you put your head on the? {NS} 166: Pillows. {NS} Interviewer: And on top of that uh the thing that you pull over the pillow is called a? {NS} 166: Sheet? Interviewer: Uh the little thing that the pillow slips in? 166: Pillow slips in. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 166: Pillow cases is what we call 'em Interviewer: Alright what about a real large on mrs {B} do you remember a real one that went all the way across the bed you know usually we had two of them. {NS} Do you remember one that went all the way across the bed? {NS} A single thing. {NS} 166: Quilt? {NS} Interviewer: Uh no up where the instead of two pillows {NS} You had a real long pillow. {NS} 166: I don't Interviewer: You don't remember something called a bolster? {NS} 166: Yes I remember bolsters Interviewer: #1 Bolster? # 166: #2 Uh-huh # Interviewer: {NS} Um you don't use them anymore? 166: No {X} {NS}{C: glitch?} People sleeps on two. {NS} Interviewer: mm-kay {NS} And uh {NS} um {NS} It may have either a blanket or a? {NS} 166: Spread. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 Or a quilt. # Blanket or a quilt either one. {NS} Interviewer: #1 And what # 166: #2 {D: You just} # make our quilts. Interviewer: Right. {NS} 166: I got some of 'em now. {NS} Give 'em gave away a whole lot of 'em when I moved here didn't think I'd ever use 'em #1 When I moved # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: But I say the current must go {NS} you shouldn't need 'em. {NS} Interviewer: That's right. 166: {NS} Oh we used to quilt we quilted {NS} piece up scraps and {NS} {D: cotton put in some} {NS} cotton in there #1 and quilt 'em. # Interviewer: #2 right. # 166: {NS} Do you remember that? {NS} Interviewer: Yes ma'am vaguely I remember seeing them and I remember ladies used to come to my grandmothers and they sit around a frame {X} 166: Have days of meeting and Interviewer: Right 166: help one another. Interviewer: Right. {NS} Uh what would you call a {NS} a little make {NS} shift {NS} place to sleep that you might make down on the floor for the children to lay on. {NS} 166: pallet pallet Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: You could put quilts down there {NS} double the quilt and put down there is what I used to do for mine. {NS} Interviewer: Right. 166: Keep from getting hurt. {NS} Interviewer: And if you uh {NS} are talking about soil thats very rich and will grow many crops you might say were you expecting a big crop from that field because the soil is so? {NS} 166: Not no soils uh it's not rich. Interviewer: uh-huh but if it is if it's #1 Very ri- # 166: #2 If it is uh-huh # Interviewer: {NS} Do you remember another word to say that the soil is is uh especially this is really good soil it's very {NS} Fert- {NS} 166: Lets see what do they call that? {NS} Fertilize. Interviewer: uh-huh #1 It's very # 166: #2 uh-huh # Interviewer: fertile? 166: It make good fertilize. Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: I know we used to mix up cotton seed and compost together {NS} and put that in our cotton rows. {NS} Interviewer: #1 And that made it # 166: #2 It was um # Interviewer: That made it #1 good soil? # 166: #2 Oh yeah. # {NS} That's way the farmers used to do it. {NS} Put it up and let it rot good and then you'd have to put it in something and tie it around you {NS} put it out I done it many time. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Okay and um what do you call the {NS} flat lowland uh {NS} along the stream? {NS} 166: Flats. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. {NS} uh and the part that would be flooded in the springs maybe {NS} 166: That would be um {NS} holes. {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 166: Um washers. {NS} Interviewer: Right well it's pretty good {NS} in general land is pretty level and flat around here in Americus {NS} and so forth isn't it? 166: But down here they had to move out {NS} right down here in town down there people had to move out when they had all them floods Interviewer: #1 {X} # 166: #2 down in a bottom. # Interviewer: Yes. 166: #1 That's what you # Interviewer: #2 Bottom is that what you call 'em # 166: call 'em there bottoms there. {NS} low {NS} Now see I'm up high but now some places is down low. Interviewer: yes 'm 166: {C: cough} Interviewer: Uh what would you call a field that might be a good for raising grass or clover alfalfa for uh {NS} Oh maybe uh 166: {C: cough} Interviewer: Having the cattle to graze on. {NS} 166: mm-hmm great for cattle to graze. {NS} Interviewer: Uh would you be likely 166: Oats and {NS} Rye and wheat that {C: coughs} things like that. Interviewer: Did you use that did you use meadow? {NS} Or would you say down in the meadow? {NS} A meadow {NS} 166: Meadow? Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} And use meadow to mean a {NS} pasture field {NS} 166: Not not that I remember. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Uh if it's low lying 166: We used {X} as a fertilizer in fields Interviewer: Right that's uh {NS} uh a kind of fertilizer how'd you call that? {NS} 166: {X} Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 That's # fertilizer. Interviewer: mm yes {NS} If water stood on a area for a long time like a part of the year every year there was water there you might call that a what that's just a? 166: Call that a pond. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 It turns # green the water gets green and mosquitoes raise in it. Okay. Uh did you ever say swamp or marsh or bog for that? Yeah I say swamps and lakes. {NS} Interviewer: uh {NS} What do you do you remember hearing people talk about how it was what did they call that when it was down to the sea or the ocean it was a? {NS} uh the place where salt hay grows along do you remember anybody talk about that? {NS} That's a long way from here isn't it? {NS} 166: No I don't. Interviewer: Salt marsh or something 166: Long time ago there wasn't nothing like that we could hear or did I was a kid and I forgot it. Interviewer: Right you didn't travel much. {NS} What different kinds of soil might you have besides very rich soil {NS} uh if it was part sand and part clay for example would have a certain name that you remember for that? {NS} 166: Part sand and part {X} {NS} We just called it rich dirt. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Uh {NW} Around here do you have anything you call buckshot {NS} or loam or gumbo? {NS} Loam you remember calling it loam saw or loamy? {NS} 166: Yeah I've heard of loamy but I don't remember fooling with any of it. {NS} Now they using guano putting it out and you don't know what they using now. Interviewer: {D: right} 166: When I was coming up the {NS} biggest {NS} fertilizer they had was {NS} in the lot they go to the lots take the stuff in loads out of lots Interviewer: #1 Right it was land where they had the cattle in there? # 166: #2 {X} uh-huh # Interviewer: What did you call that then? 166: Compost. Interviewer: Compost. 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: #1 Uh compost # 166: #2 {D: it had} # mules and Interviewer: The horse? 166: mm horses and cows and all and they made the best gardens you ever seen I wish I could get a hold of some now. {C: glitch?} Interviewer: Would you say compost rather than manure? mm-mm just call that compost. {C: comical glitch} I see {NS} uh what would manure {C: another comical glitch} {NS} 166: {X} Interviewer: okay {NS} Okay if something that you don't have any of these around here but up in north Georgia they do {NS} bigger than hills a great big? {NS} 166: Mountains. Interviewer: How's that? 166: Mountains. Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} and uh {C: another glitch} {NS} {X} the mountains uh like the road goes across through a low place that would be a? {NS} Interviewer: {NS} Okay and how was that you said you could cut a little place out you cut a {NS} 166: There gaps I call it Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 to # to go by. {X} Interviewer: A gap instead of a notch? {NS} 166: Well you can say notch Sure either one. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Alright # 166: #2 Rather have # done none of that. {NS} Just take scissors and cut straight. {NS} Interviewer: You don't use a pattern? {NS} Some- I be when the children was growing up I cut 'em at my desk most of the 166: #1 time. # Interviewer: #2 I see # wonderful I couldn't 166: #1 But now # Interviewer: #2 that # 166: they use that uh {X} {NS} to cut out and thing you know they use them scissors and #1 them get uh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: {NS} whatever you call 'em. {NW} {NS} Interviewer: Okay what is the place {NS} along uh {NS} uh a large amount of water that falls straight down you say like Niagara you say that's a {NS} a wa- {NS} 166: #1 It's Niagara # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: falls. Interviewer: Okay so that's a great big wa- {NS} 166: uh-huh Interviewer: Waterfall. 166: uh-huh Interviewer: How {NS} 166: uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: how do you say it? {NS} 166: waterfall {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 166: Waterfalls I reckon. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And uh what are the different kinds of roads you might have around 166: Dirt roads. {NS} Interviewer: Right 166: Just regular old dirt roads. {NS} hills and up hills and red hills and {NS} Anything else you call a road it was dirt. Interviewer: #1 Uh # 166: #2 {D: ever since X} # {NS} Things is what we having now. Interviewer: And when they started uh maybe the county or the government fixing the roads how did they fix 'em first do you remember what they started doing? 166: Fixed 'em in around town most are like we got 'em now. {NS} But they finally got out in the country years ago. {NS} Interviewer: And what would you call that kind of a road that has been flattened out smoothed out that has has a hard thing put on it what do you call that? {NS} 166: You mean in the dirt? {NS} Interviewer: Uh after 166: Paved you call it a paved. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And uh {NS} what about if it has ground up stone {NS} on it not hard and smooth but uh {NS} a lot of little fine gravel what do you call? {NS} 166: You call it gravel. Interviewer: Okay #1 {X gravel} # 166: #2 That's what # We used to call it now I don't know what to call it now they give everything different names #1 now. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # {NS} What's that black stuff they put on it that's sticky? 166: Tar. Interviewer: Okay {NS} 166: Well I had to have tar put on my porch last week cost me two hundred and fifty dollars fix that porch Interviewer: #1 Sure # 166: #2 stop it # from leaking. Interviewer: {NS} To stop what? {NS} 166: Stop it from leaking. {NW} {NS} Interviewer: Okay and um {NS} What about uh #1 little row # 166: #2 Don't you # want a chair? Interviewer: {NS} I'm fine this way I'm very comfortable 166: Well you could sit there and Ken can sit over here and give you more. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Well I might go around # 166: #2 {X talked about} # Interviewer: in a minute I just was thinking about getting um {NS} well I can sit on the floor for a little bit. {NS} uh what about um {NS} um {NS} roads around on the farm? {NS} What would you call them went from one field you know down into another? {NS} 166: That was just turning dirt roads nothing but just looking around the corners there just seeing yonder there didn't have no straight roads. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} um {NS} Would you ever say {NS} going down from the house to the barn maybe down the lane? {NS} No? 166: No I'd just say we're going to the barn I thought it {NW} we there was lands now that you go into the pasture {NS} Interviewer: #1 Lets say you're- # 166: #2 with cows and all # but just the barn around the house you say barn. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and the lane was that big enough to drive a wagon down or was that just to walk down? {NS} 166: Well it didn't, it's just it'd be just wide enough for you to go get out a branch and drive 'em up that lane home it wouldn't be as wide as from here to there. {NS} Interviewer: Okay 166: Just big enough to bring drive them in. Interviewer: Drive cows in? 166: Uh-huh keep from getting away from Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh {NS} Downtown like this right here in front of your house you walk down the what do you call that what you walk out here? {NS} 166: Sidewalk. Interviewer: mm-kay {NS} And uh do you have a Do you remember anybody using a word for that little grassy strip in between the sidewalk and the street? {NS} mm-mm 166: Bermuda grass standing there. Interviewer: Over- 166: But I don't see no bermuda grass {NS} here. {NS} Interviewer: mm-kay. {NS} If you're walking along the road and a dog jumps out at you and scares you what would you pick up and throw at him? 166: First thing I get my hands on. {NW} Interviewer: #1 It might be a what? # 166: #2 Big stick. # Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Okay and if you were telling somebody about it what would you say you did? {NS} Like I went down how and #1 And I was # 166: #2 The dog # scared to death I hit him. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh if you uh what would you say you threw at him? {NS} 166: Rock? Interviewer: Okay 166: If I could get one. {NS} Interviewer: And uh if a boy was uh {NS} kind of bad and he had a little pet dog and he came by and {NS} uh {NS} he picked up something you might say. {NS} Why that boy {NS} a rock at the dog. {NS} how would you say that that boy? {NS} #1 A rock. # 166: #2 Chumped a rock. # Interviewer: How 166: Chumped a rock at {NW} Interviewer: #1 mm-kay # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NS} And if you go to somebody's house to see them and they say well Uh he's not at home no he's how would they say that he's mm? 166: mm I'd just tell 'em he wasn't there. Interviewer: Okay how would #1 say # 166: #2 {X} # pick the right answer to- He's not at home? Interviewer: Right how would you How would they be likely to say you went to say I'd like to see miss so and so and they say well she's {NS} 166: She's gone too. Interviewer: She's not {NS} 166: Shoot she might be shut up in the house but she might be gone #1 too. # Interviewer: #2 Okay # {NS} You were about to say um {NS} 166: I know a long time ago I knew a girl that um {NS} picked cotton {NS} in them days you went in buggies you know {NS} and that girl we picked together cotton together several of us and she'd lie down every time she see a buggy coming and she didn't pick no cotton for lying down in the cotton. Interviewer: You mean she just didn't want to be seen? 166: No she didn't want to be seen. Interviewer: #1 {D: she had to hide} # 166: #2 {D: Just shame just a shame} # uh-huh Interviewer: #1 Huh # 166: #2 {X} # I didn't care if you see me work. {NW} It was honest. I had to work for a living. Interviewer: Sure. {NS} Alright and uh talking about putting milk in coffee some people like it? {NS} #1 {D: milk} # 166: #2 Sweet # I like it black. Interviewer: Okay and others like it 166: Sugar and milk. Interviewer: uh okay uh {NS} Do you uh think of any other ways of saying coffee? {NS} Without milk and sugar you might say you like it black #1 any other? # 166: #2 I just # say black or straight. Interviewer: Okay black or straight {NS} and uh and that means you take it {NS} with {NS} without milk how would {NS} #1 {X} # 166: #2 {X} # can drink it without it. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And if somebody is not going away from you not walking away from you you might say well he's walking straight? {NS} 166: To you. {NS} Interviewer: Okay how's that walking straight? {NS} 166: Towards you. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} If uh you saw somebody you hadn't seen for a right good while you might say well I was downtown this morning and I {NS} #1 {D: saw someone} # 166: #2 {X} # s- saw him Interviewer: okay uh {NS} How would any other ways to say saw him you just happened to meet him in the street and you might say yesterday I in the #1 {D: store?} # 166: #2 Yesterday # I seen Interviewer: Okay. 166: so and so. Interviewer: Alright. uh I read a {NS} 166: Piece in the paper. Interviewer: {NW} Okay 166: I don't know what about though. Interviewer: {NW} Alright but would you ever use that to say I ran across somebody to say you just happened into 'em around guess who I ran across downtown? 166: Just run across them. Interviewer: Okay 166: Glad to see 'em Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And if a child is given the name that his father has you would say they named the child his father? 166: {NW} What do you call it two. Like he was battle battle two. Interviewer: #1 uh # 166: #2 Is that right? # Interviewer: Uh Well uh if you just 166: Named after his daddy. Interviewer: uh okay named after mm-hmm and uh If you're going hunting you need to take along a good hunting. {NS} I think we got that already uh {NS} It's not it's not a cat uh what's the animal it's not a cat it's a {NS} an animal that barks is a? 166: Dog. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And if if somebody is trying to make their dog attack another person's dog what would you say to him? {NS} 166: Say jump on him I reckon. Interviewer: Okay do you ever here uh {NS} Uh {NS} {D: Sic-y} {NS} Or {X} {NS} you ever say sic 'em on it? #1 No? # 166: #2 uh-uh # Interviewer: {NS} uh-uh 166: It's I have heard 'em sic dog uh dogs on hogs and cows now to get 'em to come home we used to have cows and hogs and we had some uh dogs they'd go to the field and get 'em. And they'd bring 'em home {NS} and I'd say catch 'em. {NS} Holler at 'em and say catch 'em now bring 'em home. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and uh what are the different kinds of {NS} little dogs that you might say very small dog that makes real noise 166: and I tell you you don't know a few {X} Interviewer: You don't care for 'em? 166: No my daughter come down here and bring her dog there a little tiny scrump I get mad and shut the door. Just in and out in and out in and out And her is a poodle and it's a cute little dog but I just don't want it running in and out of my house. Interviewer: No. 166: We used to have the collies out in the country {NS} and they were good dogs they worth something throw a piece of bread and let 'em go. {NS} These other little dogs have got to be fed. Interviewer: {NW} Just a nuisance huh? Okay If um if a dog liked to bite and uh if a child went by and you gotta you might say the boy what what by the dog? 166: Bit. Interviewer: Okay. And in a herd of cattle what do you call the male? 166: Uh they used to call him a boar. Interviewer: Okay 166: They didn't call him a straight out male or anything but now it's a male a male dog a male cow anything. But they used to call it Just a straight out boar Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 now. # That doesn't sound good but that's what they used to call it. Interviewer: Okay what about uh bull 166: Well they used to call 'em bulls too. Interviewer: uh Boar and bull #1 just # 166: #2 Was # just about the same thing. Interviewer: Same thing okay. and uh The one that you keep for milk is not a bull but a 166: And you would say heifer. Interviewer: okay #1 Or uh # 166: #2 {X} # Now they're called heifers before they find a calf now then then defined as milk cows. Interviewer: Okay and uh the animals that you may drive a cart to or a buggy they're uh or pull a plow with 166: That's uh Mule. Interviewer: okay and if they're 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 two of them # you would say that's a a mule 166: That's a mule and you know they used to use um What was them things they used to plow more than plow mules as much as plowed mules. Interviewer: Oh ox? 166: Oxen. uh-huh oxen. Interviewer: Do you ever see any of them? 166: Yeah I've seen them. had oxen been lots of times. Interviewer: It's your husband you haven't done it yourself? 166: No we never raise 'em ourselves but other people would have 'em and hitch two together and plow with 'em. Interviewer: And what did you call that thing that they hitched 'em in? a wooden? or wood ye- 166: It was something like a wagon. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} {C: distortion} # thing uh a yoke do they say? 166: {X} Fasten the heads together you know? Interviewer: Right if there were two of them you said a #1 a yoke? # 166: #2 {X} # Now if there's one they just put on on 'em but if there's {NW} two they'd have to connect 'em together. Interviewer: #1 right # 166: #2 and # goes from the bridle. Whatever they called it. Interviewer: Okay 166: so does the other one. Interviewer: And uh if there are two mules you call 'em a 166: Two mules. Interviewer: Uh would you say a pair or a #1 team? # 166: #2 Pair yeah # Pair uh-huh Interviewer: Okay. 166: Pair of mules. Interviewer: Alright uh what about uh if there were two oxen do you remember did they say a 166: They say it was two oxen. Interviewer: a pair or two? Just two okay. Do you ever hear uh a span of oxen? {X} 166: I never have heard of that. Interviewer: Okay UH 166: That's all a mule wants Interviewer: Yeah okay 166: older than I am and you. Interviewer: {NW} Okay And a little one when he's first born is a? Now it's gonna grow up to be cow but when it's first born it's a what? {NW} A baby? 166: Baby calf. Interviewer: Alright. And um uh And if you had a cow by the name Daisy, and she was expecting a calf, you might say? Daisy is going to in the spring or how would you say she's going she's expecting a calf she's going to? 166: If she's expecting one I'd take her and put her in the barn. #1 to herself. # Interviewer: #2 Right. # And would you say she did you I think you said you know going to find a calf was that the? 166: Find a calf. #1 uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 okay # And the male horse what would he be called? {D: He's X} Male I believe is what all I've ever heard. Okay uh did you ever hear a stallion or a stud? #1 No? # 166: #2 No {X} # Interviewer: Okay um And uh the mules are the ones that are used for uh uh working generally but for riding people use? 166: Uh horses. Interviewer: Okay and just one is a? 166: Mule. Interviewer: {NW} We talk about horses but you say there's one? ho- You say two are horses but just one is a? 166: Male Interviewer: #1 Okay ca- # 166: #2 and one # female. Interviewer: Okay and what would you call a female horse do you remember? 166: {NW} Female is one that can find colts. Interviewer: The baby right. And did you call her a mare? Do you remember using the word mare for a female horse 166: #1 Yeah mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 How would # 166: That's that's what they used to call 'em mares. Interviewer: Okay And if you don't know how to ride you might say well I've never even a horse I've never. 166: I can say I haven't Interviewer: Haven't what? 166: Haven't never rode on one. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and if somebody around here likes his horses very much you might say every morning he 166: Is out riding. Interviewer: Okay 166: {D: My file by bystickers} along here The street's full of bystickers young ones too. I wish you'd take 'em frequently. Interviewer: {NW} 166: With those feet you can have 'em all. Interviewer: {NW} Got enough of 'em huh? Okay {NW} And if somebody couldn't stay on the horse you might say he 166: Falls. Interviewer: Okay and he rode him but he? 166: Fell off. Interviewer: Okay And um What about if a little child went to sleep in the bed uh but then he found himself on the floor in the morning he might say I must have out of bed I must have? If he went to sleep in the bed but when he woke up he was lying on the floor 166: He crawled out of the bed. Interviewer: He 166: he or she uh #1 uh just # Interviewer: #2 Okay # 166: crawled out of the bed. Interviewer: Alright bud if he didn't do it intentionally it was an accident oh look he 166: Fell. Interviewer: Okay And the thing that you put on a horse's feet to protect them? 166: Oh What is the things they say they could put on your door for good luck. #1 oh horseshoes # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: horseshoes. Interviewer: Okay And {NW} the parts of the horses feet that you put the shoes on what would you call them? 166: Hooves. Interviewer: What? 166: Hooves. Interviewer: Okay. And one is a horses? Horses ho- 166: #1 Shoes? # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Uh yeah well his foot the thing you just told me you said horses hooves and you say raise up his {NW} 166: Put 'em on. Interviewer: Raise up his what? 166: Foot? Interviewer: Okay and that hard part is the? 166: The hoof part I call it. Interviewer: Okay and the game that you play with those things they nail on the horses feet, what do you call that? Men like to play it. They pitch You remember sitting there you had two little posts up or little sticks and they throw the 166: Is that horseshoes? Interviewer: Right you ever hear it called anything besides #1 horseshoes? # 166: #2 I think they # call it horseshoes they used to play. {X} Interviewer: Okay and {NW} What is the the animal {NW} that they get wool from you remember what the male uh sheep is called? Did y'all have any sheep around here? 166: No we don't. Interviewer: Okay 166: Have some goats out here. Interviewer: What do you call a male goat? 166: We call it male goat. Interviewer: uh-huh And the one that gave milk is a? 166: She's a she Interviewer: uh-huh 166: She's a sh- m- milk goat they A She goat call 'em shes. Interviewer: Uh a she goat? 166: She goat. Interviewer: Oh did you ever hear them called nanny? Nanny goat? {NW} 166: Yeah they call these little ones uh that now Interviewer: #1 uh-huh and billy? # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay uh #1 do you remember # 166: #2 Either # one of them will do. Interviewer: right 166: It's been so long that I've done forgot. Interviewer: Sure whatever you have it 166: Cause we didn't have all sets of that. Interviewer: Right. 166: Now when we was growing up it was after we got a little size #1 Cause we # Interviewer: #2 yes # 166: had to learn thins like that and now I done forgot it. Interviewer: Yes 'm uh well if uh you don't remember the words for the male or female sheep uh a ram or a a buck or do you think you probably just said a male sheep if you said it? 166: We just male sheep is all I know. Interviewer: Okay and the female you ever hear of a ewe or a cow? for a sheep female sheep. 166: Well we'll call 'em female sheep. Interviewer: Okay 166: sheeps when they want uh Interviewer: The ones that would be the #1 the # 166: #2 breed 'em. # Interviewer: Okay And they have what's that stuff on the sheep's back called? {NW} 166: Wool. Interviewer: And uh what about a male hog? 166: Hog they just call that a boar. Interviewer: Okay #1 And uh # 166: #2 They # didn't say nothing else the old people used to say boar. Interviewer: Okay And if if if were uh Uh a male that's been altered so that he couldn't be the father of pigs what would you call him? 166: Now if they have a name I don't know #1 I # Interviewer: #2 Okay # 166: I know they done they worked on 'em and um Keep them before they killed 'em and they kept 'em a long time after they worked on 'em cuz you know boar hogs are no good. #1 They got over # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: some now in town that are meat and you can tell the difference in 'em. Interviewer: uh-huh 166: So they work on 'em to don't eat 'em and they just work on 'em then. Interviewer: #1 To make meat. # 166: #2 And most # time they work on 'em when they young. I know we did. Interviewer: Uh did you ever hear the word a barrel used with a hog? 166: {NW} That's the male. Interviewer: #1 That's the male? # 166: #2 That's what # call a male did then. Interviewer: Okay and um the little one when it's first born is called a baby? 166: Baby goats. Baby sheep. Interviewer: And uh with the hogs are called little? 166: Pigs. Interviewer: And what are those stiff hairs on a hogs back called do you remember like you make hair brushes out of or used to make hairbrushes out of? Stiff hairs 166: I don't remember nothing about. Interviewer: Uh what about what do you call those things in the hairbrush that stick out? You know the little stuff that uh Bris- 166: I don't know that question. Interviewer: Okay if you don't #1 uh # 166: #2 Sure don't # Interviewer: Uh the uh The hairbrush bristles do you say bristles to mean the stiff hair? 166: That must be what it is because it's stiff you know and you I know we take some of that on the brushes that we have um cemetery and clean the graves all with 'em. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 And as # stiff as they can be and it must be that. Interviewer: Alright. #1 Uh # 166: #2 Oh man if they have that # I expect the one who read it is going know more about how I do. Interviewer: #1 No # 166: #2 They # gonna have something to laugh at. Interviewer: no that's interesting Uh you still go out and clean up the cemeteries groups that you go out and work on 'em? 166: In a cemetery I go out there and my sister was buried out there at christmas and my husband and husband's mother and father and my mother and my sister and her husband. Interviewer: #1 {D: is that how they shadow?} # 166: #2 {X} # We go out there and see if they're dirty or anything we got something put around there and clean the weeds get around 'em and I got it walled in. Interviewer: Like a fence you got a fence around 'em? 166: Well it's just a coping around about that high. Interviewer: A what? 166: Coupling we call it a coupling you know? Interviewer: #1 what is it? # 166: #2 Well it's just like a fence only it's # put up with um cement Interviewer: Uh-huh a coupling. 166: And then I got the white gravel in there. Interviewer: Um that makes it clean. Uh what are those big big teeth that a hog male on the side 166: Side tooth. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 {D: small teeth} # Interviewer: You ever hear them called a tush or tushes? 166: Yeah tushes tush. You know more about it than I do. Interviewer: Oh but I don't know a lot about these things I just have these things here that I look at. And so I'm just asking you #1 {X} # 166: #2 Well they used to call it # they they stick out you know and they'd bite you too if you made 'em mad. Interviewer: mm 166: And there'd be a tooth just like our teeth now it is really like #1 teeth like # Interviewer: #2 {D: I see} # 166: we got but they call 'em tushes. Interviewer: okay And what was the thing that you put the food in for a hog a kind of a 166: Well we put it in trough. Interviewer: Okay. And one would be a trough and maybe two tr- 166: Water troughs. Interviewer: Okay and um Do you have any name around here for a hog that's grown up wild? 166: mm-mm Interviewer: No okay. 166: I haven't heard of any hogs growing up wild. Interviewer: Okay 166: I think you keep 'em up too close. Interviewer: And uh. If a calf is being weened you might say the noise it makes is doing what 166: Bellowing we used to call it that old calf's a-bellowing. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 She's ho- # is a hollering out there. Interviewer: #1 Okay but if you # 166: #2 Lowing and # Lowing we call a cow lowing. Interviewer: Lowing 166: I have three or four one may hit right don't. {X} Interviewer: No I think all those are just different words for what about the noise a horse makes? 166: It snorts. Interviewer: Okay. 166: {X} When it gets mad it shakes its head and just like somebody had blowing their nose. Interviewer: Okay and what about if he's not mad just maybe he's hungry or something he might go make 166: I never will forget my husband had I don't know whether it was a horse or what it was And uh it they called it a horse but I don't know whether the thing ever bred or not. But it'd have spells and Adam couldn't ride or do nothing and one time I even got mad with it cuz it had a spell and I had a jug of water on there and he broke that jug over that mule's head. Interviewer: {NW} 166: If they have fits but if they have {X} And their colts and we never did know you know there's a colt kind and {X} kind. Interviewer: {NW} 166: But that mule was hard headed and it you couldn't get on that mule to ride it. And he got mad and he brought that jug of water come into the house and he broke it on that mule's head. Interviewer: {NW} 166: I told him if {X} Interviewer: Well he must have been a little aggravated wasn't he? 166: Well he was they were aggravating when they got in that state you couldn't do nothing you couldn't plow or do nothing he just threw it all down then. Interviewer: Yeah 166: {D: But wonder hadn't} He would've kill it right then he was so mad he could have killed it. Interviewer: {NW} um #1 Okay you might say # 166: #2 Is that # is that going on there now? Interviewer: No uh but that's fine. uh If a horse is hungry he may make a little noise {NW} Just to say it's time to be fed you remember call it a? 166: He'd he'd go like he's a snort. Interviewer: uh-huh uh Ever hear it called a knicker or a whinny? 166: What? Interviewer: Uh knicker or a horse would knicker or whinny either one don't remember those? 166: I've heard whinny but I never have Interviewer: Okay. And if you have to you've got horses and mules and cows and they're getting hungry you might say well I've got to go out and? 166: Feed 'em. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Cows will low when they get hungry. Interviewer: right. And if a hen or a nest of eggs is called a what? 166: Setting Interviewer: mm-kay And the place where the chickens live is a? 166: Chicken pen. Interviewer: #1 {D: No} # 166: #2 Chicken yard. # Interviewer: Okay and if it's small little shelter with a cover over it you might say it's a? 166: Well now sometime you can make 'em large with like they do with these chicken getting where they raise chickens. And then if you have just a few you have it small and mine still out here I've got {D: banners out there moose} got in a place about a little bit bigger than this room. yeah. Interviewer: Okay 166: And the floors just in there Interviewer: Is it a little house? #1 just like this? # 166: #2 uh-huh # Interviewer: What if it were just something about the size of this table #1 just a little # 166: #2 No its' # it's a little bit bigger than that just from here to under the shed and the rest of it then get out and the sun. Interviewer: uh-huh 166: That's just for 'em to roost. Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 166: #2 And then they # Put some hen nest on {X} Interviewer: Did you ever build something up just real small well you wouldn't call it maybe a chicken pen but a chicken c- 166: Yard. Uh you know when we was growing up though they didn't have they had chicken houses the chickens wouldn't know to go to roost and the chickens went loose and they laid anywhere they wanted to. Interviewer: {NW} 166: And it'd take you half the time getting out hunting eggs in the barn and under the house and around the house. They didn't have pens like they do now but they would have one chicken house. Put some {D:poles} in there and the chickens would go in there at night to roost. Wouldn't go outside the fence at all. Interviewer: Okay and did you ever hear of a place for maybe just one hen and uh her chickens 166: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: You put 'em in a we use to make little coops. Interviewer: #1 How? # 166: #2 {X} # coops chicken coops You'd cover 'em good you know and put a hen in there and the {biggest} until they got big enough to they can get out 'em then when you put 'em out they go back in there if it went to raining any time. Interviewer: mm-kay 166: I know all about chickens. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Alright # 166: #2 If they want a # {X} there more enough to live there and lay an egg too} Interviewer: um What do you call that part of the chicken that children like to have to pull it apart 166: Pulley bone. Interviewer: And is that supposed to be good luck or something? 166: They say it is. Interviewer: And which piece was it that was good luck the long one or the short one? 166: It was a breast right in here. Interviewer: Yes and when you broke it in two 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: Would you say the long you know one would get the long piece and one would get the short piece 166: The one that go the long one. Interviewer: The on the at got the long one was good luck? I never did know about that. um 166: They say horseshoes over the door are good luck too. Interviewer: Right. 166: People used to have 'em all the time. Interviewer: You don't have one I thought you 166: uh-huh don't have 'em now but they used to have 'em. Interviewer: {NW} uh The the parts {NS} um Do you remember calling the insides of a chicken or a pig or a calf all the kinds that could be cooked do you remember having a word for that? All of the part that would be good to eat. 166: It was good. Chickens good if you can clean 'em. Interviewer: {NW} 166: They are good if you can clean 'em but there's a job of cleaning. Interviewer: I bet so. 166: And there's the ribs. But the whole inside of that is good now you know the hams is different. Interviewer: #1 {D: Right} # 166: #2 {D: Middlings} # and hams and shoulders. Interviewer: #1 The outs- # 166: #2 But # now liver makes the best kind of hash. Interviewer: Did you make that? 166: Yeah I made Interviewer: #1 Now how do you make liver hash we never had that. # 166: #2 {X} # Oh that's the best stuff you take it in a cook it in all pieces You put you some onions in there and cook with it. some onions and salt and black pepper and ice potatoes. and cook in there and and mash it up and it's the best stuff you'll ever eat. Interviewer: #1 That sounds good. # 166: #2 {X} # all to pieces. Mash it up {with a masher} Interviewer: #1 Did you ever # 166: #2 I used to # make it all the time. Interviewer: Did you ever make anything out of the parts of the head cook the whole head? 166: I think I did make sows. Interviewer: Yeah that's what we call that too #1 siles. # 166: #2 Siles. # Interviewer: I heard that called different things you ever hear it called pressed meat 166: uh-huh Interviewer: #1 press meat # 166: #2 you press it and # Now you take it and cook it all in pieces and you can put a chicken in if you want it. Interviewer: #1 Oh really I didn't know that. # 166: #2 uh-huh # you make barbecue out of it. That's what they make most of the barbecue out of now. Interviewer: #1 Well what about # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What about mince mince meat? Did you ever make mince meat out of the parts of a hogs head? 166: The feet? Interviewer: uh {NW} Uh well I don't know I have heard about using parts of the hog to make mince meat. You know like to make pies out of you didn't ever do that? 166: No we never did do that. Interviewer: I think that must be kind of a northern thing #1 my husband # 166: #2 That # must be um overseas thing. Interviewer: Well I my husbands family 166: But now you can take the feet and put in with the heads too and then you can uh take the feet and cook 'em by they self and pickle 'em. They're good. Interviewer: Right did you grind it up that meat like 166: uh-huh Interviewer: For the siles okay. 166: Make siles I used to say that. Interviewer: Yeah? Everybody when we kill hogs everybody want me to make sausage and I make the sausage too. Right. 166: They wanted sausage and siles and liver hash. Interviewer: That sounds good. 166: Onions goes with that, that's what makes you liver hash. Interviewer: I've never had it I've heard of it. 166: Well it's good. Interviewer: And if it's time to feed the uh the stock and do the chores you say well it's getting to be about 166: Time. Interviewer: mm-kay what time would you say about 166: Well I tell you I say pretty well all the time. {NW} {X} thing like that is all the time Interviewer: Um 166: Now in the farm it's time to go feed the chickens. Milk the cows Feed the hogs and water them. Now that's the way it is in the country all that is to do late and soon every morning. Interviewer: Right. and {NW} When you were calling the cows to come up from the pasture 166: {NW} {X} my voice for that. {NW} Interviewer: Well what about did you call differently when you were talking to the calves? 166: {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Okay What about to the horses or mules? 166: We'd call them by the name we had one named {B} had one named Pete. and different named come on here Pete. {NS} They knew their names just as good as we knew 'em. They didn't ever give us any trouble about that. Except for that one busted horrible. {NW} Interviewer: Alright and what would you say to a horse or a mule to make him go on and go faster? 166: Know you know you always have a line and hit 'em with that line. and then you got a stick Interviewer: Okay 166: And uh maybe you might jerk about the bridle. Interviewer: Okay 166: people does do that Interviewer: Alright something that you had that you'd hit 'em with would be a? 166: mm-hmm You'd have a switch or you can hit 'em with a line you know had to have a line if you're sitting in a buggy you got to have a line to hold 'em about you hit 'em with that. Interviewer: Okay and what would you say? to the horse? 166: Go on I believe go on or Interviewer: Get up 166: I reck- I reckon that's about right it may not be exactly right though. Interviewer: What would you tell 'em to go the right or to the left um? 166: No you pull 'em. Interviewer: oh 166: You don't ever tell 'em which way to go you just pull 'em and they know #1 which way to go. # Interviewer: #2 Okay # Okay or what about going {NW} Clucking do you ever remember people doing that to um to horses or mules to get 'em to go? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: {NW} something What did you call that? Clucking cluck to the horse? 166: I reckon that they understood what it was but I don't know, can't remember now what it was for but but they knew what What it meant it meant to go on. Interviewer: Right and if you wanted 'em to stop you said? You pull the lines and tell 'em to stop. Okay and how would you tell 'em what would you say? 166: Just just say stop. Interviewer: oh or whoa? 166: Whoa they used to say whoa. Interviewer: okay how? 166: wre W-R-E wre. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Long time they people didn't have education and they just called 'em anything they wanted. Interviewer: Sure what what would you say to the pigs when the hogs it's time to feed them? 166: Oh {NW} we call 'em uh How did we call them pigs? How did we #1 {X it's been so long} # Interviewer: #2 seems to me {X} # Sure seems to me that I remember we would beat on the side of the trough but we used to call 'em too. 166: uh-huh Interviewer: Would you say something like {NW} or {NW} or You don't remember it's been a while huh? You haven't fed any pigs #1 lately? # 166: #2 pi- pi- # pigs that's what we called 'em. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 pigs # and all over they would call them all pigs. Interviewer: Okay and you said you all didn't have sheep #1 you don't remember them don't you? # 166: #2 uh-uh no. # I don't know nothing about them thank goodness. Interviewer: But if you called the chickens you would say? 166: {NW} Interviewer: Okay and if they're big would you say bitties if they're little or? 166: mm-mm either one. Interviewer: Either one okay. And if they're going to get the horses or the mules ready to go somewhere you're going to put the stuff on them you'd say I've got to go? 166: Got to put the harness on them. Interviewer: mm-kay 166: Call it a harness {X} Interviewer: And if you are riding a horse the things that you hold in your hands are the? 166: and you use that to pull 'em the way you want now if you want 'em to go this way you pull this line and they both go that way going this way you pull that one but go but if you keep it straight they just go like straight. Interviewer: Right and uh you call 'em the lines? 166: mm-hmm Interviewer: And is that if you were riding in a wagon or a buggy or something? 166: That's the same thing. Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 166: #2 Yes # you got 'em by that uh line see it's tacked on to the bridle. {D: and see X} bridle right at the mouth. Interviewer: And uh if you're riding on a horse #1 would uh you still call it a bridle? # 166: #2 yeah you # you still got a bridle on it and you got a thing that goes around it this a way. Interviewer: Okay and uh are you liable to call the reins or you still say line? 166: The reins, reins uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay. What do you put your feet in when you're riding horseback? 166: Put 'em down side of this side {D: they've got a} thing there for you. to get on and put your feet in there. Interviewer: You remember what they call that thing that you put your foot in? 166: {NW} I don't know what the name of #1 that. # Interviewer: #2 Stirrup? # 166: It may be that. Interviewer: A what? 166: What what did #1 you say? # Interviewer: #2 I started to say stirrup. # 166: Yeah that's what it is. Interviewer: How did you say it? 166: {NW} Stirrup #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # And if you have two horses. uh And you're plowing say if they're plowing with two horses would you have a word to mean the horse on the left or the horse on the right? 166: Just pulling lines. Interviewer: uh-huh 166: Adam used to have a two horse plow. And that's the way he'd use them he'd pull 'em if they got too out of way they know where to go. But they knew just exactly what they were doing. Interviewer: Right. And you don't remember whether he called one of 'em the lead horse or the nigh horse or the near horse or anything? 166: The what? Interviewer: Do you remember whether he called one of them the lead horse? 166: No. I don't remember that when you pull on them things they both gonna be even unless one of 'em gets mad and gets to #1 cutting over. # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # Okay if something is not near at hand maybe at somebody else's house or something you might say oh it's just a 166: Step over there. Interviewer: Okay uh a little 166: path Interviewer: Okay or a little uh little ways little Alright. If you've been traveling and you haven't finished you're journey you might say you've got a long right before the dark you've got a 166: Long ways to go. Interviewer: Okay. And if something is very common you don't have to look for it 166: Mind the digging. Interviewer: Do you need to go 166: go down there I knew she'd go on your car had started to get up but I didn't know what she'd think. And I reckon he went down there. And they go and look behind {NS} Interviewer: It makes you wonder about what in the world {X} 166: company I couldn't talk right now. She's sitting on that porch. {X} Don't mind if she be sitting there when you leave. {NW} don't have to go to it {X} Interviewer: {NW} {X} If something is very common if you don't have to look for it in a special place you might say oh you can just find that about just about any? 166: I say about the best way to find it is hunting. Can't find it it's going walk off and leave it and then go back and you put your hands #1 on it. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # And if somebody said wonder where I could find a certain uh oh a something that I wanted to buy downtown and you might say oh you can just find that any 166: Any store. Interviewer: Okay anywhere any place any wheres how would you say that? 166: I say hardware for something you can find at hardware store or grocery store. Interviewer: Okay and if somebody slipped on the ice and fell like that you might say oh look he fell 166: Backwards. Interviewer: Alright or he fell? 166: Forward. Interviewer: And uh if somebody did not catch fish and they you might say did you catch any fish and you might say no a one. {NW} 166: Not a one. Interviewer: Okay. 166: {NW} Interviewer: Did you ever say uh narry one? Narry one? 166: Nah no I always say didn't catch a one. Interviewer: Okay. #1 And uh # 166: #2 {D: Didn't} # Have good luck. Interviewer: Okay 166: Either one of them will do. Interviewer: Okay. And if uh the school teacher fussed or scolded a boy and he uh he didn't think she should have he didn't think he'd done anything might say why is she blaming me I nothing wrong or I didn't do I how would you say that I? 166: {NW} didn't do it. Interviewer: okay 166: {NW} Interviewer: I uh if uh if somebody uh comes in and uh and accidentally knocks something off the table and is very sad about it and is apologizing and you might say oh that's alright I didn't uh I didn't like it 166: uh You couldn't help it. Interviewer: Okay and talking about the thing if they felt terrible you might say oh I really didn't like that any? 166: mm? Interviewer: Any? Would you say, #1 it wasn't # 166: #2 It didn't # I wanna say I know you couldn't help it, so just quit worrying about it. Interviewer: Okay. Uh A child who is crying and wanted something that somebody else had and he said Well he was eating candy but he didn't give me 166: None. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you're talking about something that happens during the night. Uh You might say uh maybe something that you could hear that kept waking you up. And you might say Well uh I heard that all 166: All along But still you couldn't go back to sleep because you'd be thinking it might be something. Interviewer: Okay. Maybe you could hear the man's chickens over there, you might say All during or all through or all 166: You know I live by about nine roosters over there and nine hens and I don't hear one rooster. But Interviewer: What peace. 166: But you know, there are a lot of comfort in their crowing and calfing. Interviewer: #1 Yeah I heard that. # 166: #2 {X} # There's a lot of comfort in that. Interviewer: Kind of like being back out on the farm. 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Uh If you have uh, Did y'all have oats on the farm Miss {B} 166: What? Interviewer: Oaks, did y'all have oats? 166: Oh yeah we used to plant oats. Interviewer: And who 166: Cut 'em Interviewer: When you have to get the grains separated, how did you do that? 166: When you get them separated, just cut it and uh tied it. And put it in the barn for the mules. {X} that on mules and cows, just in great big barns that were tied between the {X} Interviewer: Okay. 166: Course I had to throw it all, and then they'd have to take a wagon and let it dry if it could. Take the wagon and haul it to the barn and put it up in the barn. Interviewer: Okay, and what about wheat? Did you raise wheat? 166: Yeah we raised wheat. Interviewer: And how'd you do about it, did you separate the grains? 166: Yeah we had, well we couldn't mix it you know. But we put it where the sun could shine on it until it got dry enough to take it and grind flour. Interviewer: Well how would you, if it's uh you're ready to have a machine come in maybe and separate the grain from the straw, what did you call that? 166: You couldn't do it. Interviewer: No? 166: You couldn't do it. Y'all would all had to go to {D:yelling} because they kept the {NW} grass out of it. Wheat and all. I have an idea and you might get a little bunch of something. If you did it, it would just grind all up because they didn't know where it was to separate it. Interviewer: Well um Did, with the 166: Cause if you do that just like you did uh oats. It gonna create big wads. Interviewer: How did that {X}? With a machine? 166: Uh-huh. Cut up with a machine. Interviewer: What, what kind of machine did they call that? 166: Oh I mean uh, just a Interviewer: {X} Oh 166: You'd have to cut grain really, is what it is. Did they call it a thresher? Did they call it a what? Interviewer: A threshing machine or a thresher? No? Just a {X} machine? 166: There was one more. It's the thing that you're cut the grain with. The grain cutter {X} Interviewer: Okay. 166: And that darn thing, I know it used to know but don't now. Interviewer: #1 And # 166: #2 I just # fool with it. Interviewer: Before you took it to the mill, you had to get the grain off of the stalk. 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 How did they do that? # 166: #2 They thresh it. # Have thresher thresh it. Interviewer: Okay, how would you say that? 166: They threshed it all when it got dry and put them sacks. Interviewer: Okay. And uh If we had a job to do, the two of us are going to be working on something together, you might say, Well you and 166: You and me I reckon. Interviewer: You got to do something, okay. Uh, you're talking about um not just me, or just you, but uh might say, well this is for of us to do, this is for 166: The follower to do. Interviewer: Okay, but for the two of us, this is for 166: Both of us. Interviewer: Okay. And if some friends are coming, some friends of yours and you are coming over to see me, you might say Well there's one, one person you might say well and not are coming to see you, might say um 166: Looking for Looking for whoever name is, looking like Interviewer: Okay, you're talking about who is going to talk you to the doctor maybe 166: Uh, uh-huh There are, used to be Interviewer: Uh-huh So you might say well she and, are going out 166: Me and her and a boy. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Came to the doctor {X} Interviewer: Okay. 166: Since you're good to me. Interviewer: And if somebody knocks on the door and uh you say who's there, they might say it's 166: I wanna see who's that before I open my door now, but used to be I didn't think a thing about it. Uh you just go and open the door. Interviewer: Okay, and if you're comparing how tall somebody is, and uh you are taller than the other person, you might say well he's not as tall as 166: I am. And uh Interviewer: Uh then you might say to the other one, I'm not as tall as 166: You. Interviewer: Or talking about a man 166: Fella. Interviewer: Okay, is he I'm not as tall as he as him? 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay would you say that? Now would you say I'm not as tall as 166: As they are. Interviewer: Okay. And comparing how well you can do something? You might say oh He can do that better than 166: I can. Interviewer: Okay, and if a man had been running for two miles, and and then he had to stop, you would say, well two miles is all he could go, all the 166: I don't expect I'd make two miles running. Interviewer: Okay. 166: But we put two miles in it. Interviewer: Alright, would you say that's all the far, all the farthest he could go? 166: As far as he could go. Interviewer: How? 166: As far as he could go. Interviewer: Okay. 166: And then they risk it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh if something uh belongs to you, you would say, well that's 166: Mine. Interviewer: Or if it belongs to me you say that's 166: Hers Interviewer: Alright, or talking to me you'd say oh that's, that machine 166: #1 Yours. # Interviewer: #2 is # How? 166: Yours. Interviewer: Okay and if it's them across the street you'd say it's 166: Theirs. Interviewer: Okay. And if people have been to visit you and they're about to leave, you might say to them now back again. 166: Y'all come back again, some time this week, but don't mean it. Interviewer: Okay {NW} 166: When you work in the field like we used to, we didn't have time to sit down and think. Interviewer: You didn't have time to visit. 166: We visited at night or say bed time {X} nights. {X} We'd take time to visit. That's the only time we had to visit. Got the Sundays Interviewer: Uh What about uh if um if there's a car out there and you wonder whose it is, you might say Is that like the lady {X} 166: {X} Interviewer: She's wondering. 166: She gonna get him done got him out again. {NW} Interviewer: Okay well, if somebody comes in to the door several people and you see the car you might say is that car How would you ask 'em if it's theirs, is that car your 166: Yours Interviewer: Yours or you alls? 166: Say you alls. Interviewer: Uh would you say that? 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: You alls? 166: I don't believe I'd be that meddlesome. {NW} Interviewer: We wouldn't be that meddlesome, okay Uh if somebody had gone to a party, and you might want to find out about or the neighbor might want to find out let's say who had been there, you might say well now who might, was there, who? 166: I asked that a lot of times by summer school. {X} Interviewer: Okay well if you wanted somebody to tell you their name, you'd say who all, how would you say that? At the party last night, somebody else went and you didn't go, you say now tell me, who 166: Who was there? Interviewer: Alright. 166: {X} Well they gotta stand up, now they sit back down. {NW} Interviewer: What about if you were asking about, you might say who was there or would you say, say who was there just as likely to say who all was there? 166: Now that's just a special {X} the way I do. Interviewer: Okay. And if you're asking about uh what someone had said, maybe the speaker, you might say now what did he say? 166: I say give a good talk because I you need some {X} Monday night, and I had a big uh to do everything or big speaker from way off and he gave a good talk too. Interviewer: Well how would you say if you didn't get to go, and you wanted to know about it, you might say well now, did he say? What would you put to ask that question? 166: I just said I didn't have any way to go. Interviewer: Uh-huh, and if you wanted somebody to tell you about it, you say now what, what did he say? How would you say that? What? Would you say what did he say or what all did he say or Which? 166: If you give good talks what I'd say. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if the children or some young people parents are dead, and uh you might say well there's nobody else to look out for them, they've got to look out for 166: Themselves. Interviewer: Okay, and if no one else would do it for him, you might say well he better do it 166: Himself. Interviewer: Okay and what do you call the bread that is made from flour and baked into loaves? 166: Call it bread, bread, the flour is from wheat. Interviewer: Okay what would you 166: Bread is from corn. Corn. Interviewer: Okay what do you call the kind that is made from wheat? What different things do you make from wheat? 166: Flour. Interviewer: And uh what thing to eat do you make from the flour? 166: Biscuits. Interviewer: Okay. Did you ever make loaves? 166: Yeah. Interviewer: What would you call that? 166: Uh Momma used to make 'em {X} then it was a {X} and it'd be light bread now. Interviewer: The kinds you 166: I don't know what they called it then. They'd let it sour and all you know, yeast. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Your mother used to make it? 166: Yeah. Interviewer: Did you ever make it? 166: I don't know, I don't remember what I ever made any, no, I might have helped her and I might have made some But it's yeast bread, that's what they used to call it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what else besides biscuits do you bake from flour? 166: Well you make dumplings and pie crusts and Interviewer: How, or what do you put dumplings in? 166: You put in chicken. Interviewer: Did you ever put it in uh 166: Beans, it's good in beans. Interviewer: You fix it in vegetables sometimes? We never had that, I've never 166: Butter beans and snap beans, that was good to put them in. Interviewer: And you make just like a 166: Just like another dumpling, just like chicken dumplings. Interviewer: Did you uh uh Well the kind that was made from wheat then was 166: Some type of flour or plain, either one. We used to make it plain but before we {X} they gotta self rise and {NW} Interviewer: And if you made it not from wheat but from corn, it was not flour but 166: Corn, it's a cornbread. Interviewer: Mm-kay, and uh Did you ever make different kinds of cornbread miss {C:name} 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What different kinds? 166: Well got your milk bread you mix, break a egg you know and make milk bread out of it. Interviewer: And how was that cooked in the oven? 166: Uh-huh. I cook it now, cook enough to make for two or three days at one time. And just put it in the refrigerator and I just cut a whole slice in the morning. Rather than cook so many hoe cake. {X} Interviewer: Right, they had to make hoe cakes on top? 166: Top. Interviewer: Is that the little patties? 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Did you make anything else out of corn meals besides cornbread and hoe cakes? You remember anything else? 166: No, that's all I've ever made, I cornbread. Interviewer: Do you, did you ever hear any called 166: They just said, they didn't self rising too. Interviewer: Right, now you used have to put something in it. 166: Now it's uh some meal and some corn bread some meal and flour in my milk bread. Interviewer: Do you ever hear it called {X} 166: No I never have heard of that. Interviewer: Do you ever remember having any cooked in the fireplaces instead of on the stove? 166: I know a long time ago we took cornbread out and just a bunch of us and mama made it out in great big prongs about that long and about that big and put it in the stove or around the stove and cook it there about the best bread you could eat. It was just plain, plain old bread. And we'd enjoy it better than this now. Course you can't get meal and you get that tiny you can't eat it. Of course. Oh fine. Interviewer: Did you ever in seeing it cooked on the fireplace or in the fire? 166: Oh yeah. We used to cook it, get a high coal, light oak coal and cook it on the fireplace. Interviewer: What would you put in there to cook it on? 166: Just a regular old spider. and put a little grease on that Did the same thing, turn it over and let it cook on the other side. Interviewer: If the spider had legs on it, it was a little 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And it would sit over the {X} Do you use the spider? 166: We used it to bake potatoes in it. Interviewer: In the spider? 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Did it have a lid? 166: Yeah it had a lid. And then there's a plain spider, we used to cook 'em on just a regular plain spider. Interviewer: But a spider always had legs, you would never use it on a stove, just for the fireplace. 166: That's right, the old people used to use it most of the time. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about uh, did you ever hear any called corn and dodger or anything like that? 166: Oh that was the best things you could make. Interviewer: Now what, tell me about that. 166: We use 'em in turnips. Interviewer: Well what's that, is that, a lot of dumplings? 166: You would have some salt and black pepper and some green onions and flatten this thing like this and you cut those open there and you drop 'em over in your tongs ain't that right fresh. Interviewer: That's right, dumplings. Only dumplings are made with from flour. 166: Neither, nuh-uh. Don't have no flour in that. Interviewer: Oh. Dumplings? 166: Just roll, roll 'em out. Interviewer: The corn dodger? 166: Uh-huh, put it in that stew And they are good and so you take your turnips out Or you can leave the turnips in there and let 'em cook together but that'll take mighty. Then let the let 'em cook. Interviewer: Now was that cooked with the root of the turnip or the turnip tops? 166: Mostly the tops, they're young, young. Mostly they're bitter, but now you can eat them and eat 'em all. Interviewer: Did you ever put the roots in or did you eat the tops mostly? 166: I use the roots too. Interviewer: Uh-huh okay. And if there's two kinds of bread, there's homemade bread and the kind that you buy at the store. What do you call the, how do you say well this is not homemade, it's 166: {X} What you have at home, now I'd say it's homemade. Interviewer: Okay and you're telling somebody that it's not homemade, you might say this is not homemade bread, it's 166: Sort of like the question from yesterday I went to a Sunday school place meeting and got hold of some uh cookies and was bragging on them cookies and I tell Oh whoever made these are so good. Interviewer: {NW} 166: I said, well, I didn't make 'em. Said where'd you get 'em I bought 'em. {NW} Interviewer: Well would you say it's store It's not homemade, it's store 166: Yeah I'd say store. Interviewer: Store bought? 166: From the store, bought it. Interviewer: Okay. What about that kind of uh of a thing that's made with a hole in the middle. You make them? 166: No I don't make them. Interviewer: What'd you call 'em? Just donut? 166: I, donut. Interviewer: Did your mother ever make any like that 166: Uh-huh. But she'd uh make tea cakes and she'd cut out you know like a head and a body and arms and legs She used to do that. Interviewer: What'd she call that? 166: Tea cakes. Interviewer: Tea cakes. 166: But sometimes at the beginning of the cakes she'd put ginger. Interviewer: It was sweet roll too, like a cookie. 166: And that cookie don't wanna such with that name. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Sounds good to me. Alright, and the kind that you make up with a batter and you fry uh fry three or four of 'em at a time and you may put something on top of the butter and pour something on them. For breakfast usually. They put syrup on them or something. 166: It's syrup. Pancakes is what you're talking about. Interviewer: Okay. 166: If you was ever put on syrup. Interviewer: Do you remember any other words for pancakes? 166: Pancake. Interviewer: Do you remember any, did you call pancakes anything else a long time ago? You ever called flap- 166: Yeah we used to make pancakes lots. Interviewer: Do you remember calling them anything besides pancakes? 166: Patty cakes, I called them patty cakes and pancakes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay what about uh fritters or flitters uh is that something different? Well You never used the words flitters or fritters? For anything you cooked? 166: Well I've heard of them but I don't know how they're made. Interviewer: Okay. Well if you went to the store to buy uh flour, you might say I want to buy two what of flour? 166: Two pack, two different kinds. Interviewer: Uh-huh, and a measure, some amount like two or five uh you wouldn't get it in gallons you would get in what, say I want five 166: Small ones. Interviewer: Uh The uh amount of flour that you buy you'd say I want a a five. 166: Two pound, I want two pounds. Interviewer: Okay. And the the yeast that you were talking about, how would you buy it, you'd say I want a, of yeast. 166: Well you buy the yeast and you keep it and whenever you make up your dough for your first, first much you put some of that out and just keep putting it out and putting it out. Finally it gets too old and you have to start again. You have to let it stay out all night 'til it rise. Interviewer: And uh the inside of an egg is what? 166: Yellow. Interviewer: Okay. And the white part you call the it's the 166: It's the white. Interviewer: White. And uh uh if you cook eggs in hot water, with the shells on them, you 166: Boiling 'em. Interviewer: And if you break the shell, and let it fall out in hot water 166: No, I just take mine out and put it in cool water and let it cool until shell off of 'em. Interviewer: Okay but, if you don't hard boil them, you take the raw egg the uncooked egg and crack the shell and let it go down in hot water and cook that way, what do you call that? You know for {D: invalids} a lot of times they make 'em. 166: I know what they're called but I can't think right now. Interviewer: You know, fix uh, poached. 166: Po- t uh. Mm it's not a paunched no. something like that long ago, toast or something. Interviewer: Uh like for to put off 166: I don't ever fix anything like that. Don't need 'em, I got disgusted with eggs Don't even eat eggs. Interviewer: Okay. And if the uh fat salt pork, what do you call that? 166: Ham. Interviewer: Okay and not the ham, the kind maybe that you cook with vegetables. 166: Oh that's the {X} Interviewer: Mm-kay. 166: It's what they called fat back then. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you've gotten the mitten is the whole p- the whole side um when you cut the side of a hog up do you what do you call that, you say you've got the hams and the shoulders and the 166: Mutlins. Interviewer: Okay. And the very outside part of the mutlins, the skin is the #1 You say that, that # 166: #2 The skin. # Interviewer: cut off the bacon. The skin? 166: Yeah that, I guess they have a when there's {X} they can, they get the What part of the hog? They get it from the middling. Interviewer: The bacon? 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Um If meat has been kept too long, you'd say this meat has 166: Gone hard. Interviewer: Okay. Or if it doesn't smell good you might say 166: Spoiled Interviewer: It's what? 166: Spoiled. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Can you choose, you can't keep meat these days You don't get no good meat. Cause have to have colder stores. Interviewer: Yeah. 166: And you bring it out and take half of that if it turns hard, it spoils. Interviewer: And uh when you fixed it on the farm, you would take it and put it where? 166: Cold storage. Interviewer: But way back before you had cold storage? 166: A long time ago we didn't do that, they kept it at home, the weather was suitable to keep it at home. But long time before we quit raising hogs, we had to take it to the cold storage. and the meat {X} Didn't have no good red gravy like you used to have. Interviewer: And where did you keep it when you hung up your hams and 166: In the smoke house, out of the house. Interviewer: Mm-hmm And you said you made uh sauce and and uh um 166: Liver pudding. Interviewer: Right, did you ever make anything called head cheese? 166: No I never had that one. That could be something called head cheese cause it's the same thing. Interviewer: Okay and did you ever take uh the juice out of the liver pudding or from the the sauce and stir it up with corn meal and cook anything? 166: Mm-mm. No whenever I made it I just cooked it down so low it wouldn't be no juice in it and then put my mixture in it. Course I cooked out everything. Nice potatoes. They would, they would get nearly done when they They were just never done. I put that in there, let them cook 'til it's done. I used a lot of that stuff. Interviewer: Okay what about if you kept butter too long, how would you say the butter is not good. You say it's 166: Well it's just old. Interviewer: Okay You say the butter's old? 166: It don't get old now cause stick it in the refrigerator, used to be we just had to keep it kneaded, that's how I would get rid of it. Interviewer: Right, where would you keep it before you had a refrigerator? 166: Just down the {X} Interviewer: #1 Did you ever # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Did you ever have a place outside where there was water? What about What about way down maybe in the woods somewhere maybe there'd be a stream and maybe have a little house built over it, you didn't have it? 166: Uh-uh. We just kept it in our house with churns and use it everyday I mean you not with children. It didn't stay that long. So where you got a crowd of children, eat a pound a day. Interviewer: Sure, Miss {B} Did you ever have a place under the house, before you had a basement, you had something you called a cellar? 166: Mm-mm. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Never had nothing 'til we got a refrigerator, where made us a box a long time ago to put in the house and kept it in there when I began to sell it. I don't {X} just have to just milk is just what you could use to Interviewer: Okay. What about thick sour milk that you keep on hand maybe? What would you call that? 166: It's not good. It's not good to cook with. That is too sour. Now we used to keep ours in the well. Tie down a jug and put it down in the well. Interviewer: That'd keep it cold? 166: Mm-hmm yeah. {X} Interviewer: And what kind of uh of cheese, did you ever make any homemade cheese? from clabber milk maybe make a cottage cheese, anything like that? Okay. And uh as, what's the first thing you do after you, with the milk after you milk the cows, you pour it 166: Strain it. Interviewer: Alright. And what about, what are the, what's something that is uh, a dessert that's made from apples, different kinds of desserts that you make from apples? 166: Tell you the truth I don't do that. Interviewer: You don't bake apples, do you ever remember 166: I, I used to make apple pie- uh parish. {X} What you call it. Apple. No pear relish. I used to make apple relish when we was on the farms and {NS} Interviewer: That was seed with meat. 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: But you didn't make anything {NW} 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: {D:purt flour} pies and I used to like apples and peaches too. And they cooked a Interviewer: How is, how is an apple puff cooked? 166: Uh just call 'em apple puffs. Interviewer: Did you use uh something poured over that? 166: No, you had to boil them, you put 'em out and dry 'em. Get get 'em good and dry and then you put 'em up and whenever you want to cook some, take 'em out and boil them. Put your sugar in there then get 'em good and sweet and cook 'em good. Interviewer: And you cooked them in a pastry, did you add dough? 166: Cooked 'em just like they do now, they'll just roll the dough out, put them in the fire. Interviewer: If somebody has a real good appetite, you might say he really likes to put away his talking about somebody that really does eat a lot. He really likes to put away the 166: Food. Interviewer: Okay, do you ever say {D:vittles}? 166: Sometimes I do. Interviewer: Uh What about a sweet liquid that you might make with sugar and uh milk or cream maybe nutmeg that you might pour over dessert or pie, did you ever make something like that? Uh What about um 166: Tell you I haven't baked a cake I bet you in twenty years. Interviewer: Well. 166: As soon as I'd been gone, my daughter and, now every time she comes she brings me cake. Things like that. Interviewer: Uh 166: The neighbors they'd bring me cake and things, I don't like to cook much. Interviewer: Uh what do you call food that you take in between regular meals, say maybe sit down and just have a just a little bit of 166: #1 Sandwich. # Interviewer: #2 something. # Okay. Would you ever say just a might or snack or would you ever say piecing? 166: Well I'm eating um crackers now. Three crackers. Snack. Interviewer: Um And uh When, when do you have your meals, how do you say like every morning at seven o'clock or 166: I get up every morning at six or seven o'clock, I eat my breakfast and eleven o'clock I eat my dinner five o'clock I eat my supper. Interviewer: Okay I think 166: Got any people living around here but some nieces. Interviewer: Alright um Did you ever eat uh, what drink do you have with breakfast? 166: Coffee. {NS} Nothing but black coffee. Interviewer: Oh yeah. And if you were out working in the yard and you get thirsty, you may come in and have a 166: Coke. Interviewer: Okay or sometimes just all you want is just plain 166: Water. Interviewer: And if you do, you drink it out of a Drink water out of a 166: Glass. I think chocolate milk, I eat breakfast every morning {X} No, that's the only way I can get any strength to get started, some chocolate milk. Interviewer: Well that's good too. 166: Which I drank that out of a glass. Interviewer: And um if you drop a glass, why it may 166: May spill everything. {NW} Interviewer: Right, and what may happen to the glass itself, it may You say that oh look, that glass 166: Is gone Interviewer: It 166: When I need to throw something away. Interviewer: {NW} That glass Bro- 166: Broke. Interviewer: Okay. And oh I didn't mean to You might say oh I didn't mean to 166: Say such and such a thing Interviewer: Alright if you didn't mean to drop the glass and it did break you might say I didn't mean to break 166: I don't believe anybody intends to break one, but they're Interviewer: #1 Right # 166: #2 about to # some time anyways. Interviewer: Alright. And you say um Oh um Every time I take down off that uh uh top shelf why, I seem to break it or I have Every time I take it down from there I have dropped it and 166: Broken. Interviewer: Okay. And uh You might say if you If you drink a lot of uh of chocolate milk you might say all my life I have 166: No, I just drunk it for the last few years. Interviewer: Oh 166: Just got started on it the last seven or eight years. Interviewer: Okay. 166: {NW} For the five I would keep my going till lunch, sure. Interviewer: And if you have uh company come for dinner, when dinner's on the table, and everybody's standing around, what do you say to them tell them to come to the table, you might say come on and 166: Sit down. Have a seat. Interviewer: Okay. 166: They can't get around my kitchen's too small. Interviewer: And uh Then uh then after someone, when the table and he pulled out the chair and he 166: Turned it over. Interviewer: Okay or just he got in the chair and sat down, you'd say he sat at the table and just started to eat, say that for me, he s 166: He started to eat. Interviewer: Okay and he got in the chair and s 166: Sit down. Interviewer: How's that? 166: Sit down. Interviewer: Okay. And yesterday he 166: Spilled something {NW} Interviewer: Okay And you wanna say every time he comes to my house he uh he sits in that chair, yesterday he in that chair. 166: In that chair with his foot on it. Interviewer: Alright, how would you say he s the word sit in there, yesterday he what? 166: He sit. Interviewer: How? 166: Sit. Interviewer: Okay and he has Everyday, he has what in that chair? 166: One chair. Interviewer: Okay, he has how do you say that? He has 166: One chair he sits in it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you want to tell people to get food from the different things on the table, you might say you go ahead and 166: Help yourself. Interviewer: Okay. And uh after he had already helped himself, would you say, how would you say, after you've already helped yourself Pass it own to 166: Pass it on down {X} And ask them what they want to drink. Interviewer: Okay. And if you decide not to eat something and somebody says oh won't you have some of this you might say oh no I don't for any, I don't 166: And say you better had, better eat or something like that. Interviewer: And if somebody's trying to tell you to eat something and you don't want it you might say oh no thank you I don't 166: Don't want it, don't eat it, get indigestion. Interviewer: Okay. And uh food that's cooked and served a second time, what do you say that is? 166: Leftovers. Interviewer: Okay. And if it's been heated a second time you might say it's been {NS} 166: Don't eat enough. Interviewer: Okay. 166: I don't like it by the second day, no way. Interviewer: Right. 166: But I do eat it. Well I eat only things two days and then I put it up come back to it some other time. Interviewer: Right. If you put food in your mouth then you begin to uh 166: {NW} Chew. Interviewer: Chew and then uh What about a dish that was made out of meal a long time ago kind of like a a cereal. 166: Isn't that chalk? Interviewer: Uh Well, I I don't know. Maybe take cornmeal and put milk and water in it and heat it. Something they fix for invalids sometimes. Um 166: It's soup, kind of a soup. Interviewer: Kind of like soup but just with cornmeal, not with vegetables in it, do you make 166: No I don't, I don't but you know my momma would live with us where she wanted. Interviewer: What would she call that? 166: Uh soup. Interviewer: Really? 166: Really soup you know. But they just Had the water hot put a little salt and black pepper in there, stir it up {X} and anything, I don't know what you would call it. Interviewer: Okay did you ever have mush? 166: A kind of a mush, yeah just a mush. Now that's all she wanted, and she got soup. {NW} Interviewer: When you live in the country all of your your um peas and beets and so forth in you grow them out in the 166: Garden. Interviewer: Okay and you call all of them together, all of the different homegrown things in the garden, you call 166: Everything different. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But all of them, what's the word that means all of them? Candied your peas or carrots you say, well I got to go out and pick some 166: Peas or butter beans dig some nice potatoes. Interviewer: And what kind of soup do you call that kind that has all the different ones cut up 166: Vegetable soup. Interviewer: How's that? 166: Vegetable soup, that's what I had for dinner if I didn't have enough time to fix nothing else. Interviewer: Yes, cause we talked too long. 166: Canned or jarred soup that I made myself. But you got all the vegetables in it. Interviewer: And uh what about the um the typical Southern food that we think about having down here with sausage and eggs or bacon and eggs, generally you have for breakfast in the South, white 166: {NW} I don't have enough for a piece of toast That's all I eat for breakfast, now I used to eat soup but that's just gone up Lemon high last time I just heat 'em up toast, and then drink my milk like earlier. Interviewer: What about grits? 166: I don't like grits but sometimes I fix myself for a stuffy nose. Some nights when my throat hurts. I'd eat them the right way with scrambled eggs. Interviewer: Right. Interviewer: What about that um uh the kind that comes in a can, and it's the whole kernels of corn? 166: I don't like. Interviewer: Uh. What did you call that hominy? 166: Oh yeah. That's hominy. Yes, I do like it, too. Interviewer: #1 Did you ever have that? Pardon me? # 166: #2 I had some a long and we used to make it, long time ago. Of course, # Mama used to make it regularly. Interviewer: How'd she make it you? 166: Rest put on it some lye hard as lye and boil and boil and boil till she gets it tender And then she'll take it and wash it good several times and get that {X} and put it on to cook it again and that stove would do it. Good a thing as you could eat. Interviewer: #1 Okay. No. # 166: #2 It's been a long time ago I bet you you wouldn't know how to start now, would you? # Interviewer: No ma'am. I've never seen it done. I've, you know, bought it in 166: Take old cashews and do it, too. Interviewer: Put the corn, the whole kernel. 166: Hmm. Mama's cooked it with old cashews. Interviewer: That's interesting, isn't it? 166: #1 Last part at that. # Interviewer: #2 What about. Mm. # 166: Cook a vat of it. Poured it up. I don't know how we kept it. Interviewer: Cook a what of it? 166: Oh, just a vat of it at one time. Interviewer: A whole lot? 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Is that is that what you mean? A vat of it. A whole lot of it? Uh. Uh, what about a a grain that they have in Louisiana, Arkansas, and Texas, and it grows in water. Uh, we don't have it around here, but you we buy it sometimes to cook. It's white and starchy. And we had it in pudding sometimes. R- R-rice. Yeah, rice. 166: Yeah, I eat rice. Interviewer: Uh. 166: I like rice cooked in just with some sugar in it. Interviewer: Uh, it with sugar? 166: Just sugar. Cook some rice. And take it up and put in it sprinkle a bit of sugar in it. I can eat that. Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Uh, what did they they used to call a kind of of a homemade whiskey maybe that was a a real cheap whiskey maybe they made it out 166: #1 Corn, really nice corn. # Interviewer: #2 You know in. Uh-huh. # What'd they call that? 166: Corn, corn whiskey. Interviewer: Corn whiskey? You remember any other kind of funny names or joking names for it? 166: No, I know it's cane skimmings now. I seen them make it out of that. Or heard of it. I hadn't seen it either, but they let it get s- sour, you know. And you can get drunk on it just like it was whiskey, but it's not not called whiskey. Interviewer: #1 Uh. # 166: #2 It's the color of # Wine. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Did you ever make wine when you were in the country? But it was grape wine or with berries? 166: It was uh grapes. Interviewer: Mm. 166: Grapes. Blackberry wine, too. Interviewer: Mm. Speaker #3: #1 We used to have it to Sunday dinner. That was a real # 166: #2 And the # Doctor says that that's as good a thing as anybody could use at night when they're nervous is is to take a swallow wine. Speaker #3: Wine, wine, wine. Interviewer: Okay, if something's cooking and it makes a good impression on your nose, you might say mm, that's 166: That smells bad. It's uh the cabbage sure does smell bad. Interviewer: Alright. And if uh if molasses uh is especially thick, how would you say that? The molasses if it's real thick. You might say the molasses 166: Say it's too or too thick. Interviewer: And the molasses is too thick is that that used? 166: Mm. Interviewer: Syrup. 166: Is that what you're talking? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: Uh. Interviewer: Well 166: It's been cooked too much. Interviewer: And so what's the difference between uh uh did you make syrup on the farm? 166: Oh yeah. Could make a hundred and fifty gallons a year. Interviewer: Yeah. But now molasses is different from from syrup. 166: Well, I thought it was all the same thing. Interviewer: Well, now I'm asking you if sometimes people make a difference the kind you made on the farm, sometimes you call molasses, or you always called it syrup? 166: Syrup. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: Sugarcane syrup. Uh. Interviewer: And uh what about a kind that you get to go on pancakes? I don't think they ever made it around here so much, but they'd get the water out of the maple trees up north and then Uh, did you ever have that kind of uh 166: Huh. We didn't have that around here. Interviewer: But the tree that that's uh maple um uh Maple syrup that came from those trees. Now I think they may have 166: #1 I don't think we've ever had any of that maple syrup around here. I haven't heard of it. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Okay, if you uh go to a store to get a Say a a a man wants to get a belt, and he wants to be sure that it's leather and not plastic, he might say now I don't want anything imitation. I want a leather belt. 166: #1 Leather belt. # Interviewer: #2 A # Uh, what word would he have put in front of leather to say a real one, a ge- Genuine? X Genuine, genuine. 166: I don't know not what you'd put in front of it. Interviewer: Just a a word that you say. Genuine, genuine, genuine. If it's the real thing. 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Would you be likely to say a genuine leather or is uh Or if uh it isn't imitation. It's gen- 166: I never heard of that, heard of that. Interviewer: Oh, would you say you don't say genuine? Okay. Uh, and if sugar is sold in a package, you just say well, a five pound bag of sugar, but if it's sold in, you know, if there's a barrel of it like there used to sell it in very large quantities, they say it's sold in 166: They would still put it in in sacks. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Had to weigh it up, you know, put the sacks. Interviewer: Right uh in and in smaller sacks? 166: My daughter says sugar's sure going down. Interviewer: Well, good. Needs to. 166: Uh, my daughter and I Grandson and his granddaughter. They call her about once or twice a week and say if they don't use that, they use those tablets. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 166: And they said some people used it up there in South Carolina until um, they they calmed down on 'em. Interviewer: Uh, good. Uh, would you ever say that it's sold in bulk? Or you ever remember? 166: Used to be, uh-huh. Interviewer: How would you say that? 166: Well, they have to dig it out of uh barrels or whatever they got it in. Put it in paper bags. Interviewer: Uh, and you say it's in 166: Paper paper bags. In fact, it used to be in little white sacks. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And how would you say it? In bulk in 166: #1 Uh-huh. It'd still be in bulk, I think. # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # Okay. And what do you call the the sweet spread that you put on toast made from uh old apples or 166: Jelly. Interviewer: Okay. And um. If there's some fruit on the table in a bowl and you want one, you might say please An apple. Please 166: Pass, pass an apple. Interviewer: Okay or give me 166: Give me apple, an orange, or whatever it you have Interviewer: Okay, and if there's two groups of uh of uh youngsters. Two groups of boys that you were talking about and you say it wasn't what somebody some of them had done something, you might say it wasn't these boys. It must've been one of 166: That boy. Interviewer: #1 Okay one of. Alright like # 166: #2 Their boys. Sounds like reading my paper. # Boy had come and gone and everybody read the paper round here, and I didn't get an answer, so I had to call it just up there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: It just it just had to last bring him out there. Interviewer: Okay. 166: So now your old children around here and they picking 'em up. Interviewer: Mm. 166: It's gonna have to be stopped, too. Picked mine up twice now this Interviewer: #1 Hmm. # 166: #2 week. # Interviewer: That's terrible. Alright if a if a say not just one boy but several of them doing something, you might say not one of these boys, it's one of 166: Them them boys. Interviewer: Okay. And if you're uh talking about uh a tree out in the country, you're pointing to somebody and say not this tree right here is one way up over 166: Where? Interviewer: Over. 166: Over where? Interviewer: Oh, over there. Would you ever say over yonder way back? Yonder. It'd be yonder that way. 166: Do what? Interviewer: Would you ever use the word yonder? Over yonder? 166: Yeah, we'd use it a lot. Interviewer: How would you say that? Well 166: Way over yonder. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if you're telling somebody how to do something, and they're doing it wrong, you might say don't do it that-a-way. Do it 166: Do it the other way. Interviewer: Okay like 166: Uh. Interviewer: Okay. And uh And if somebody speaks to you, and you don't hear what he's saying, what do you You say to have him repeat it. You might say now 166: What did you say? Interviewer: Okay. And uh If a man has plenty of money, you might say he doesn't have anything to worry about. {NS} That your phone? 166: {X} Interviewer: Uh. Uh, I was gonna ask you if a man has plenty of money, he doesn't have anything to worry about, but you might say life is hard on a man Uh, if if he has plenty of money, you don't have to worry about him, you might say just the opposite of that. Life is hard on a man that's 166: Well, they do have that to worry about because they don't know when they're gonna lose it and like that. Interviewer: Right. But you might say the opposite of a man who's rich is a man that's 166: {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. He's not a rich man, he's a 166: Got plenty to do. Interviewer: Okay. 166: I don't know whether I'm right or not. Interviewer: Alright. Uh and if he uh if he's uh uh He really just doesn't have anything, and you wanna say well, 166: I'm sorry. Poverty. Interviewer: Right. He's a He's a man that's 166: He's worked hard. Interviewer: #1 Okay and he's poor. Okay. # 166: #2 Still hasn't got anything. # Interviewer: And uh if uh If you have a lot of peach trees. A big field of peach trees that's called a what? 166: Peach orchard. Interviewer: If um if there's a big orchard there, and you might ask somebody if that's his orchard, he might say no, I'm just a neighbor, and that uh he's the man 166: That done it. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. And then talking still about being rich or poor, you might say when I was uh uh a child, my father was poor. But next door was a boy who 166: Had plenty. Interviewer: Alright uh. Uh, an inside of a cherry is that little hard thing. What do you call that? A cherry. You know, the fruit? A cherry. Like you make cherry pies out 166: #1 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #2 of? # In 166: That's the seed. Interviewer: Alright. And an inside a peach, is it the same? 166: Seed, too. Interviewer: Okay. And what are the different kinds of peaches according to whether or not they come off the seed easily? 166: Clam. A clam seed. Interviewer: #1 If they come off the # 166: #2 That seed. Uh-huh. You know, just # Interviewer: #1 Right. # 166: #2 Peel it or pull it wide open. It'll spread. # Interviewer: And if they uh if they won't peel off the seed easily, what it 166: #1 {D: They're not the clam seeds. I don't know.} # Interviewer: #2 called? Uh. # Do you know any any way 166: #1 They can # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # 166: Peel them, and cut 'em up. Interviewer: Right. Okay. 166: I bet you been gone you went over that thing so much. Interviewer: Yeah, several times. Alright. And uh if you um What do you call the part of the apple that's in the middle? 166: Core. Interviewer: And did you ever did you ever you told me about making dried apples and so forth. Did you ever call them snits, the little pieces of apple, no? 166: Mm. Interviewer: You just say dried apples? 166: Dried apples. Interviewer: Just with. Alright. 166: We used to dry 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: Make we called 'em puffs then. Called 'em something else then. No, just take a piece of dough, rolled it out, and put that in there to already sweeten. They're the best things. Interviewer: Yes, that sounds good. And the kind of nuts that you pull up out of the earth and shake 'em and roast 'em are 166: #1 Peanuts. # Interviewer: #2 called # Okay. You know any other names for them? Peanuts? 166: Ground peas. Interviewer: Okay, do they call 'em that much around here? 166: Uh-huh. Bud peanuts, and ground peas, too. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what other kind of nuts are there around here that you might have? 166: Pecans. I believe that's the only kind that I know of around here. Interviewer: What other kinds do you sometime maybe buy at the store? 166: Buy grapes. Interviewer: What other kinds of nuts? Are there any other kinds of nuts? 166: There there's other kinds, but I can't remember the names of 'em. It's Interviewer: #1 Uh, what about # 166: #2 {D: X never called it a cashew, but I don't} # Interviewer: Right. Did you ever have any walnut around here? 166: Walnuts. Yeah, we used to have 'em outside in the country. Interviewer: Would you have the kinds you had to break the shell off? 166: Uh and yeah Interviewer: #1 Did you # 166: #2 {D: I remember that now. A victim of mine.} # Interviewer: And your hands would get all 166: #1 They're stuck up. They'd be black. # Interviewer: #2 Right. # Right. What would you you had a the outside part of it, and you'd break that off, and then there'd still be the hull inside. What did you call that part? Do you remember? That you broke off 166: Its hull. Interviewer: The hull. Okay. And uh what about another kind of nut that's used sometimes in cooking. It's long and uh and flat-shaped. And kinda like the uh your eye and the shell's real soft and flat. 166: #1 Is that a is that a pecan? # Interviewer: #2 All # Well, and I know about pecans, but is there another one, too? An all 166: #1 Not that I know of. Now pecans, they had different names than some of 'em, you know. # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # Right. Do you ever use almonds? No? Okay. Uh, and if um what is the fruit that comes from Florida about the size of an apple but yellow. 166: Yellow oranges. Interviewer: Okay. And if you had uh 166: Tangerines. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you had a bowl full of oranges and the and they had all been eaten, you might say well, the oranges are all 166: Gone. Interviewer: Okay. How was that? 166: Gone. Interviewer: All. They're all gone. 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: How would you say that? 166: Alright uh what what was the question? Interviewer: Yes how would they you were telling me that if you had a bowl of oranges, and you took there right they'd been eaten up, you might say well, the oranges are 166: Gone. Interviewer: All gone? What would you say? All gone? 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay. Say that for me. The oranges 166: Gone. Interviewer: All gone? 166: That's all I know to say. Interviewer: Okay. 166: #1 I oughta think you drink your juice, you know. # Interviewer: #2 X # Sure. Okay, and what about a little red vegetable that you raise in the garden, and they're uh 166: Strawberries. Interviewer: Okay, and what about one that's down down in the in the dirt. A vegetable that's kind of hot and peppery tasting? Like onions, you know. You pull 'em up. 166: That's a pepper. Interviewer: Um, but it's a root. It's a a grows down in the the root. You eat the root of this one that I'm thinking about. It's a little round and red. 166: Aw, shoot. Right on the end of my tongue. Interviewer: Root rack. 166: Radish. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay, and then what different kinds of tomatoes do you 166: Well you there was several different kinds, a big boy and There's several different names. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And uh um you uh you use them how in cooking? 166: What, tomatoes? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 166: Making soup. Interviewer: Okay. And do you ever have any real small ones that are just used for salads? 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: What do you call it? You have a separate word for them? 166: You call 'em just regular tomatoes like they do the rest of 'em. Interviewer: Okay ever heard 'em called tommy toes or? 166: Yeah that them little bitty ones they're volunteered mostly they're tommy toes now. Interviewer: Uh-huh what 166: Up again you know but they won't be big. They'll be the same kind but they're be little tommy toes. Interviewer: Okay. And what about a 166: They had a side of a case to 'em to. Interviewer: I see. What about uh along with meat, you might have a baked 166: Potato. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about uh uh when you say the word potato, you're thinking about the white one not the yellow one generally, aren't you? 166: Thinking about both of 'em. Might not pick yellow ones, got anything to do with white ones. Interviewer: Okay. And the yellow ones uh uh what different kinds do you have different kinds of them around here that're 166: No, we have we have the white ones and the yellow ones because a Irish potatoes. That what you're talking about. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 166: No, I get the red ones all the time. They're a whole lot better than the white ones, but they're different. Interviewer: Okay, and what about the ones that are this shaped and sweet? 166: #1 That that's what's different is them And and the red ones are round. # Interviewer: #2 Mm. Mm-hmm. # Mm-hmm. 166: But the red ones are a whole lot better. It's the kind I get all the time. I've used them to grow this one we used that. Interviewer: Okay. And what about uh yams? Did you have them? Did you ever have yams? 166: Yeah, I got some baked in the refrigerator, frozen and we'll have 'em for dinner tomorrow I Interviewer: Do you call them uh always 166: #1 Uh, sweet potatoes. # Interviewer: #2 Yams? # Uh-huh. 166: There's a yellow and a white sweet uh sweet potatoes in the yellow these? Interviewer: I heard uh 166: And they're just now sweet enough to eat like you ought to. Interviewer: Alright. 166: {NW} And they're understand why they're sweet as they can be now, but when you first get 'em out of the ground now they take a long time before they get sweet. Interviewer: Uh-huh. May have to wait. Okay, and what about uh what about the the little young onions. The first ones that you get. Do you have different words for them? 166: That's white nest onions. Interviewer: What was that? 166: White nest onions. Interviewer: Okay. And what about any other vegetables you might put in soup? 166: Well, you know I put everything. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 166: #2 I put # Sometime I put cabbage and I put everything {X} {NS} Interviewer: Okay, uh you said the vegetables you put in salads. What about the little one, the little pod that grows 166: You put carrots in 'em they'd make sure And Irish potatoes. Beans and and it just anything you got. But I remember I put carrots, but outside of cabbage, anything you got in the garden was good and take plenty of tomatoes. Interviewer: What kinds what different kinds of beans do you have? 166: Well, we have the running beans. They're the best kind, too. Interviewer: Is that the kind you break up? 166: Yeah. They you running out of these bunch beans. They don't grow very long. They grow about that high, and they they're not good. I mean the bean. But now the other beans. They grow long, and they're really good. Interviewer: #1 And uh # 166: #2 Running beans. # Interviewer: What do you call that one that you break the hull off of and just use the the bean itself? 166: Well, you just say the end each end of it and break it it's a string bean you know. Pull one off. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 166: #2 When you're breaking it up. # Interviewer: And the kind that you don't break up but that you peel the hull off of and you don't eat the 166: #1 Is that peas? # Interviewer: #2 hull? # Okay or uh uh the big flat ones. 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Butter beans or lima beans? 166: Butter beans. Interviewer: Yeah. 166: You shell them. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. 166: Lima beans. Interviewer: Uh, and do you use uh a vegetable that grows up like this uh grows on a little uh plant like some of them pods just little long pods? 166: #1 Pepper? # Interviewer: #2 Green. # Well, no there there's different kinds of peppers, too, aren't there? 166: This this kind of pepper only pepper I know that grows up that way. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: #1 A bell pepper # Interviewer: #2 Well, uh what else # 166: Now, a bell pepper would be around. Interviewer: Right, I was wondering about the okra. Do you use okra? 166: Yeah. I cut some yesterday. Some peas. Interviewer: Yeah, how do you call how do you say it? What's that? 166: I call that okra. Interviewer: Okay how 166: Huh? Interviewer: How was it? 166: {NW} I call it okra. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 {NW} # And I I put it in peas, you know. It's good to be cooked in peas or butter beans and cabbage. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: Drop it good down in there. Interviewer: Okay, and you were talking about uh turnips. Turnip tops that you fixed with that with uh the corn dodgers and dumplings. What other kinds of greens do you have? 166: When I had a garden, I'd have cabbage and collards and turnips and rutabagas. Just anything that had a top to it. We planted everything. Interviewer: Okay, and lettuce you generally can buy. It's loose or it comes in a 166: Uh, well you can grow it, too. Just that way. Interviewer: How do you call that when it's? 166: Lettuce. Interviewer: And if it's in a ball like that you say I'm gonna get two of lettuce. Two what? Head? 166: Two head, two heads of lettuce. Interviewer: Okay. Do you ever use that word to count children like somebody's got three head of children? Two boys and two girls. Have you ever heard that saying? 166: Huh? Interviewer: No, okay. Uh, what about uh uh a whole lot of something uh if somebody has seven boys and seven girls, you might say well, he really had a of children. What word would you think of you would just mean a whole bunch of 'em? 166: Say they got a crowd. Interviewer: A crowd. Alright, do you ever hear the word passel? 166: Hassle. Interviewer: Passel. 166: Uh-uh. Interviewer: No, never say a passel of children? On the outside of an ear of corn is a 166: There's that woman again. She's gonna say I called. Interviewer: {NW} On the outside of an ear of corn is a 166: Shuck. Interviewer: And uh. The different the what kind of corn do you call it the one that you eat off the cob. You boil. 166: Well, that's the golden dent. That's what we always used. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 We used the yellow corn. # Interviewer: And if you had it on the plate on the table, do you have? 166: Yeah, just cut it. Made the half in two, put on it. It's just knew it off his teeth. Interviewer: Okay, and do you call it uh uh when it's on the table like that, do you call it anything special? Like roasting ears? 166: Uh-huh. The corn. Interviewer: #1 Okay, you don't say roasting ears or sweet corn? # 166: #2 No, you say corn. # Interviewer: #1 Just corn? # 166: #2 Or corn. # Interviewer: Okay. Uh, have you ever heard uh roasting ears or mutton corn, either one? 166: I had never had heard of that. Interviewer: Okay. What about that uh little thing that grows up at the top of the stalk of corn right at the very top? 166: Well, that's the uh Interviewer: Tat. 166: Tat tar tassel. Interviewer: #1 Okay. That # 166: #2 That's where the corn starts at is the tassel. # Interviewer: Okay, and on the ear the little fine thread-like things that you have to clean off before you cook the corn, the hair-like stuff on an ear of corn. What do you call that? Interviewer: now thats her youngest son is now the ones in high school 116: well you know one's married and this one's in college Louis is in college johnny now he's with at home with her I Interviewer: That's right {NS} okay and you were saying that all the ears of corn those little threads are called 116: tops Interviewer: now thats the thing at the top is it what about on the ear the things you clean off 116: cobs Interviewer: okay the cob is the things goes in the middle and in the grain in the ears of corn the little thread like things the 116: {D: Call that shuckets you know} Interviewer: alright and under the shuck between the shuck and the 116: corn that's where the top is You got to pick them out Interviewer: okay 116: they've got hair you know Interviewer: okay what about a large round fruit that grows on the ground and you make pie of it thanksgiving or the kids like to make a face on um the big round thing like this 116: Squash it's not squash Interviewer: Pum- 116: but it's not squash it's a pumpkin Interviewer: okay and uh do you have a lot of different kinds of squash 116: yep I got a white kind and yellow kind but the yellow kinds the best Interviewer: what about different kinds of melon 116: watermelons yeah they have there's plenty of different kinds of watermelons we used to raise a pound of them every watermelon Interviewer: would that be the kind that are stripped or the kinds solid 116: they solid green all over but now they got a strip i think its back where its just as good but we always use another kind Interviewer: did you just say the green melons #1 were and the others were the stripped ones # 116: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: what about one that's not a watermelon and the meat it's yellow 116: well that's cantaloupe Interviewer: okay now you ever heard that called anything else 116: I call them cantaloupes Interviewer: okay 116: All we ever called them, yeah. Interviewer: okay what are the things the little uh things that they grow just like over night out in the woods or out in the fields little umbrella shaped things that uh um people sometimes eat and sometimes they grow on fallen logs um a uh mushrooms 116: yes mushrooms Interviewer: did you ever cook them 116: we named it something else and we'd have it cooking with something else goes on the ground and you can eat them they're really good now it's just a little bitty thing Interviewer: mm-hmm 116: And they used to grow in the cabbage patch but when you caught um and sprung um off the vine but I don't know what they are not a mushroom I don't know I can't Interviewer: #1 well if you thing of it write it down # 116: #2 yeah I can't think of it right now # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # Interviewer: okay uh okay mushrooms were the kind that 116: mushrooms that must have been what I was thinking about Interviewer: #1 uh-uh # 116: #2 mushrooms # Interviewer: and what about the kind that you have to that that look like mushrooms but you don't eat them they're not ones you don't eat it's not good to eat you might call it and say that's not a mushroom thats just a toadstool or or something like that you hear that used a toadstool or frogstool 116: doesn't mean anything to me Interviewer: okay uh and if a man had uh uh swore throat and his throat was all swollen too you might say well he couldn't eat because he couldn't the food he couldn't 116: swallow Interviewer: okay and uh uh what do some people smoke what things 116: cigarettes Interviewer: or if their bigger the 116: cigar Interviewer: okay 116: I can answer them #1 cause I don't use them # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 116: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # okay and if there are a lot of people at the party they are all standing around the piano what would they be doing 116: singing Interviewer: and um uh if they were uh uh moving around real fast on their feet you'd say they were singing 116: yes dancing Interviewer: okay and 116: Not particularly dancing but they was keeping time Interviewer: okay and if a somebody offers to do you a favor and uh you say I appreciate it but I don't want to be to anybody involved okay but if you want to tell somebody that you want more for being their dead {D} would you say I don't want to be obligated or I don't want to be beholden 116: i don't Interviewer: would ya would you say would you be more likely to say that 116: yes Interviewer: which one I don't want to be beholden or I don't want to be obligated 116: i wouldn't want to be obligated Interviewer: and um um somebody asks if you can do a certain job and you might say well sure I 116: do it Interviewer: okay but if um if they ask if somebody says can you and you say no I 116: can't Interviewer: okay and um and if somebody says to you about about sundown to do something and and you um say I got up early this morning and um I've all day how would you say that 116: worked all day Interviewer: okay 116: sun up to sundown Interviewer: okay would you say I done worked to mean its already been done I done worked all day 116: Mm-hmm Interviewer: okay uh if your talking about some of your old friends who are still alive and you all come back safe to Shiloh or somewhere and you might say well I've been out there looking around for all for a lot of old school friends they seems that there 116: gone Interviewer: alright um uh how would you say that uh would you ever say they're done dead 116: passed away Interviewer: passed away and what about if a um if there had been um and accident and somebody had been badly hurt and you tried to go help and maybe you call the doctor and you might say um theres no need to call a doctor because man was 116: passed out Interviewer: alright hes already dead or done dead when he got there if um if you want us to say the somebody needs to be careful about it say well he aught to be careful or should be careful 116: should be careful Interviewer: okay would you ever say he longs to be longs to be careful 116: no I'd say he ought to be Interviewer: okay and um if um if one boy is daring another one to do something how would you say it you don't dare do it or you dare not do it have you ever used to the word dare ever 116: yes Interviewer: how would you say that 116: I'd say I dare you to do it Interviewer: okay and uh uh if you if you want to say well somebody aught to do something what would be just the other way he its not something he aught to do something he aught 116: that you don't do Interviewer: okay he aught not he oughtn't how would you say that to do something you shouldn't 116: he ought to do it Interviewer: okay and 116: something needed Interviewer: okay but if he should not do it you might say oh he 116: not going to do it Interviewer: alright he oughtn't do that or he shouldn't do that uh what about if a boy got a whipping you'd say I bet he did something he 116: ought not to Interviewer: okay uh and if some if someone wants you to do something that you don't want to do and they say will you do it you say no I 116: won't Interviewer: and uh 116: sometimes he'd go ahead and do it anyway Interviewer: right 116: {NW} Interviewer: and do you uh if you get something done that was real hard work and you had to do it all by your self and somebody was just standing around without helping you might say well you 116: aught to be doing something Interviewer: okay uh you might have helped me have you ever said might you have might have helped me if you wanted to 116: {NW} Interviewer: say that 116: you coulda done it Interviewer: okay um would you ever say might have 116: Mm-hmm Interviewer: uh 116: you coulda helped uh-huh mm Interviewer: okay uh 116: I don't ever say nothing like {D: but if you do mine that'll be enough} Interviewer: oh okay um if someone asks you about doing something in the future but you don't know if you'll be able to or not you say well it's possible you might would you say well I might could do it 116: I'll do it if I can Interviewer: alright uh what about what kind of bird is it thats supposed to be out at night in the when he's in the dark supposed to be maybe makes a kind of a hoo noise 116: I don't know Interviewer: its supposed to be a flying bird or a one that makes a hoot noise 116: I don't know I don't ever heard it at night but I don't know the name of it Interviewer: okay uh there are different kinds of owls 116: oh yeah Interviewer: what about 116: you know owls used to be bad Interviewer: really 116: they would catch the chickens and things they sure did Interviewer: I didn't know that 116: yes sir hawks too Interviewer: yeah #1 uh you remember # 116: #2 there's owls used to be down there # Interviewer: oh well that's nice {D} you remember any different kinds of owls 116: {NS} No just one kind an owl {X} {D: there goes and partridges} things like that Interviewer: okay uh did you uh did you ever hear it called a screech owl 116: yeah Interviewer: how's that 116: {D: it's like a cursed horse} I couldn't tell ya how it is but they make a different fuss from a regular bird Interviewer: yeah and what kind is that 116: what'd you say it was screech owl Interviewer: was it a screech owl I was okay 116: they holler at night Interviewer: okay what about he kind of bird that drills a hole in a tree 116: um thats a mockingbird ain't it Interviewer: okay um uh wood pecker or 116: wood pecker wood pecker Interviewer: you ever hear um called a pecker wood 116: it's wood pecker thats what they call it Interviewer: #1 okay # 116: #2 now if # Interviewer: #1 okay # 116: #2 you named it # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # Interviewer: what about some kind of an animal thats black and white and supposed to have a real strong smell 116: goat Interviewer: okay a little bitty animal and that yet you know in the house you just can't leave the house for awhile sometimes you run over them in the country in a car 116: what do ya mean by that Interviewer: a black a long tail and a little white and white streak down the back 116: I see that everyday but I don't remember the name of it Interviewer: #1 you'd call it a # 116: #2 I'd call it a possum # Interviewer: #1 and now um # 116: #2 not a squirrel # that's it Interviewer: you ever hear um called a pole cat 116: uh-huh Interviewer: which one would you be more likely #1 to say # 116: #2 I'd say # I'd say pole cat Interviewer: okay {NS} now what what other kind of animals besides owls might get your chickens and you gotta worry about um 116: hawks Interviewer: okay aw have you got any a name that means all the things that might get the chickens like you might well I gotta go face up the chickens so the son's of 116: Rats will get them Interviewer: okay what about varmint vars you ever say uh like shut up the #1 chickens # 116: #2 nope # I lets see possums possums will catch chickens Interviewer: okay did you ever use the word varmints #1 you don't use the word varmints # 116: #2 no I didn't # Interviewer: and you don't know a what they were or had any other meaning varmints 116: I don't believe I have Interviewer: okay now what what bout different kinds of squirrels 116: do what Interviewer: what about different kinds of squirrels 116: I don't know about what kind the regular old kind we have yeah I don't know what the name of it is Interviewer: okay um what about a little bitty thing that looks kinda like a squirrel on it and it was real small 116: rats Interviewer: okay chipmunks you have any chipmunks around here 116: there's womp rats too and they're about that's the meanest thing you can have Interviewer: they're bigger aren't they 116: uh-huh they eat your corn and everything else around the house Interviewer: okay you ever heard of anything called a gopher 116: I've heard of a gopher Interviewer: whats that 116: ain't it one of these things that's flat and has all on the inside there and they'd stick their head out now Interviewer: okay uh like a turtle 116: uh-huh Interviewer: uh-uh um okay now what kind of fish are around here 116: well there's trout I don't know fish Interviewer: you never 116: trouts I mean Interviewer: okay and what is it that comes from the the ocean that its got a shell on it the you get it out and they used to say it used to have a pearl in it 116: {X} something that comes out of a shell Interviewer: mm-hmm but you oysters do you eat oysters 116: could be oysters but I don't eat um Interviewer: okay um what about those things that make a noise around the pond at night croak croak croak or something like that and hop you know 116: grasshopper Interviewer: well uh 116: well it's not exactly croak so Interviewer: okay those that croak you know sometimes they say {D: diggarung diggarung} #1 you hear that {NS} # 116: #2 {NS} yeah maybe {NS} # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # Interviewer: frogs different kinds of frogs 116: oh frogs uh Interviewer: what about the big ones the biggest ones bull frogs 116: bullfrogs yeah Interviewer: what about little green ones you might have seen out in the garden 116: frog there frogs there Interviewer: what about a toad is that something 116: bullfrog Interviewer: okay and uh the things that people use for fish bait 116: worms Interviewer: okay and um what other kinds of worms might you see out in the yard 116: {X} I tell you in a can of this old fish bait and they'd be about that long Interviewer: okay 116: {X} back then Interviewer: uh-uh 116: the get in the ground and it'd rain they'd be gone next day they ran loose Interviewer: and uh is um a terrapin do you use the word terrapin mini turtles around here whats the difference their about the same 116: I haven't seen all that many in my life I don't care for how they look but I've heard of um Interviewer: okay and what about something that you may find in um in the little rivers or streams that swim backwards 116: yup I don't know what that thing is Interviewer: have you heard of crawfish crawdads 116: crawfish is what we call um Interviewer: #1 now what about and I'm sure if you could see it # 116: #2 and I'd of named it # Interviewer: around water 116: and I'm not around water Interviewer: uh-uh what about another seafood that people like to eat and it's a curved shape little shell on um and you can buy them now in packages they're already dipped in batter shrimp you ever use 116: mm-hmm Interviewer: you cook them 116: mm-hmm I cook them Interviewer: hmm what's that how do you say that 116: shrimp Interviewer: okay uh what about what do you call that insect that flies around the light maybe and they always they attracted to the light 116: they're not lighting bugs lighting bugs those fly on the outside Interviewer: yeah 116: lighting bugs you know they carry light Interviewer: light flame bug {D} 116: mm-hmm Interviewer: and what about that one that sometimes eats uh wool 116: that's moths Interviewer: #1 uh-uh and you use right # 116: #2 you use moth balls on them # Interviewer: okay 116: that's what we do now we do that now long time in room our clothes we put up let the moths in they'd eat them up Interviewer: right well do you use that word for that bug that flies around the light too is it all those 116: no I don't Interviewer: moths you talk about moths flying into the light 116: I don't remember what you call them things but they sure are bad here in the dark Interviewer: okay now what about a candle fly you ever heard that 116: {NW} call them that candle flies bad if they get in big flies too Interviewer: uh-uh 116: they get in my porch out there and I kill a lot of them out there Interviewer: and 116: I think maybe they've been doing that for some time Interviewer: yeah um what about an insect who that you uh you used to see around the water ponds and and streams out on the fire and they have long thin bodies and two pairs of wings and it hovers around damp places and they say it eats mosquitoes a lot sometimes people will say that their a sign that snakes are around 116: mm-hmm and the problem with that is rattlesnakes are bad Interviewer: yeah uh do remember any kind of a a bug or an insect that used to be around the ponds 116: not a mosquito no Interviewer: no its bigger than a mosquito ah um let me read off some of these names and see if you remember any of these uh dragonfly or snake doctor or snake feeder or a mosquito hawk or a dark 116: skeeter now that I have heard of that Interviewer: is a skeet a hawk 116: yeah Interviewer: #1 yes is that what you is that something that about this long with # 116: #2 mm-hmm mm-hmm mm-hmm # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # and there's another bug called and he's in town the great mounder might know about that and it's big and you know it cause it stuck round the house and it ate all your flowers and things Interviewer: yeah 116: and we used to call um grasshoppers but they's too big for grasshoppers Interviewer: now what color are they 116: the same thing same color but its a different uh thing but I don't have a name for it a name for the thing Interviewer: more like green or like black 116: kind of a black Interviewer: uh-uh 116: I kill them out here get them and kill them with poison but they're they're they're about that long and about that big around the great big there's no small time Interviewer: like its some kind of a grasshopper 116: mm-hmm it looks like a grasshopper Interviewer: okay what kind of stinging insects do you know uh maybe one that builds a big nest like paper out in the woods 116: that's wasp ain't it Interviewer: okay how's that 116: wasp Interviewer: uh-uh and any other 116: they get in their in their trees I mean uh trees around the house that's wasps for ya they used to call um cause they'd run down round here and in the guest house killed one out on that porch yesterday Interviewer: okay what about the {NW} on that'd build a big nest like this that they got out int the woods shaped like a football 116: I don't know they go into pecan trees and I never have they pass out they have that there in their {X} a bunch of young and I've got um down out of trees many times and I don't even look Interviewer: and they have a bad sting don't they 116: uh-huh Interviewer: hornet you ever hear um called hornet 116: it might be a hornet Interviewer: okay 116: I know I got some out of the trees over here last fall took a long stick and got them down and burned them up done it when I was in the country Interviewer: okay what about any other kind of uh something like a wasp only it doesn't sting but it builds a nest like a wasp does 116: you'd have to call it some names Interviewer: uh what about a dirt dog or a 116: dirt dog is it yeah dirt dog Interviewer: yeah and they around around here 116: yeah they're around here Interviewer: okay 116: there's everything around here but money Interviewer: okay {NW} 116: thats they one thing I can't name cause there's so many new ones Interviewer: what about some kind of an insect that builds itself a nest in the ground that maybe fill the holes and come out and they might sting you 116: you know we {D: doddle doddle} we used to take something around around {D: doddle doddle doddle} {D: doddle doddle} when we was kids I don't hear them now we used to do it Interviewer: alright that one didn't sting did it did it sting 116: uh uh uh it didn't sting Interviewer: #1 uh-uh # 116: #2 just a boo # Interviewer: uh-uh uh you have yellow jackets around here 116: yeah we have yellow jackets yeah I got one Interviewer: okay you ever hear a mosquito called anything besides mosquito 116: no I hadn't Interviewer: and 116: this is her she went into town this morning Interviewer: usually they live around water they say 116: they do but since so many people round here don't care they just pour anywhere they don't care about water yes and it's plum green over there and they had a whole lot of um reeds back here and they just live back there but I can always tell where they had reeds because about where they come they cut all those things down and we don't have so many anymore now you can't sit down on the porches every evening late in the evening Interviewer: you don't take care of your lawn do you you have somebody come in and 116: no I cut my grass myself Interviewer: well it sure does look pretty 116: mm-hmm my predecessor hadn't moved out when I moved in and around then it was really pretty it's real green around there and here and since the water washes it off so much in the morning it goes down Interviewer: okay uh 116: I'm sore and stiff from when I work down there Interviewer: {NW} 116: take my blood pressure {X} Interviewer: oh um now we're talking about the grasshoppers you ever hear people call them hopper grass 116: um no Interviewer: okay 116: there may be a new name now but there's always grasshoppers Interviewer: okay and what about very very small insect take sometimes burrows down your skin and makes a little place and they raise a welt and you walk in the woods and you may get them on your legs and they get under your clothes very tiny uh sometimes they're red but they are so small I just can't see them 116: I don't know what they are Interviewer: Uh Oh red bugs is that 116: red bugs Interviewer: #1 then you know it maybe # 116: #2 mm-hmm # uh-huh they stick to you Interviewer: right okay 116: they'll sure make ya swell up too if you get a bunch of them on you to Interviewer: and um do you know where the around here if people go fishing and use those little tiny fish that you get what do you call them minnows fish bait 116: what do they call them things they use in lots of fish bait Interviewer: shiners 116: ain't no catching um those little ones now cause the places where they're raising you know Interviewer: you ever heard um called shiners 116: I believe I have I believe I've heard that Interviewer: okay and what do you find maybe stretched across the path in the early morning or maybe in the corner of the room if it hasn't been cleaned a little tiny thread like little 116: that's a web Interviewer: okay 116: called it a web Interviewer: and is is it different the same thing if you if it's outside like in the grass or from the branch of a tree 116: sometimes it is {D: it there and there and all but you could} but you see um there and you see um in the rest of the country Interviewer: and uh what how are they made what makes them the webs or 116: the ones that are making webs Interviewer: mm-hmm 116: well you can um #1 what is the name of them things # Interviewer: #2 spiders # 116: they're web looking in the corners sometimes Interviewer: spider webs 116: it's spider Interviewer: okay 116: cause you can see them in the web and you kill them and they're not so very big the small things spider webs Interviewer: okay and the part of the tree that's down under the ground it's called the 116: root Interviewer: and uh do they use or do you remember that they used to use any kind of different kinds of plant roots for medicines 116: oh yeah and that we was married it must have been {D: while I was out there I was having chills} and my husband's mother she barely went to school a day in her life and she went out when I was having chills and couldn't get um stopped and she went out to the woods and some kind of root and I don't know what the name of it was it made me a tea of it and and she broke up the chills Interviewer: is that right 116: she could do that for anything Interviewer: different kinds 116: mm-hmm different things she'd go out in the woods and dig up roots she know um but we wouldn't Interviewer: mm-hmm you don't remember any of the names like that like ginseng seems like 116: No I never of that Interviewer: okay um 116: she never did tell me I done forgot it it's been so long it's been seventy years Interviewer: Sure and what about a kind of tree that you could tap to get uh uh uh a syrup to make to make syrup from i think they did that mostly up north they called it uh kind of maple syrup uh and they would boil it down and make sugar always did it in the winter 116: what's the name of that we got some of it some but we used to we didn't like it whats the name of that Interviewer: uh 116: syrup Interviewer: maple sugar maple syrup 116: it may be I won't say for sure but it may be but Interviewer: and uh if there were a big uh if there was a big group of trees somewhere would it'd be likely you'd say over in that that uh uh that grove of trees or over in that orchard you'd use the word grove 116: that well maybe we got some groves in the woods Interviewer: mm-hmm and groves okay and what about a tree that uh that had broad leaves and they're all shedding at one time and the bark that peels off and it leaves little barbs and knobs on the 116: that's a magnolia tree isn't it Interviewer: the magnolias #1 big big leaves uh-uh # 116: #2 big big leaves # Interviewer: and it has a pretty white bloom on it 116: uh-huh and they sure do smell good there's one of um right down the street here Interviewer: and this one is uh is not not the magnolia the one I'm wondering about is the uh the tall tree with long white limbs uh Syc- Sycamore you ever hear of Sycamores 116: yeah I've heard of sycamores Interviewer: how do you say it 116: sycamore I believe that's what it is I've seen um but I don't know where to look Interviewer: what are some other kinds of trees like that you might have out here or out on the farm 116: well we didn't have many we had apple trees and um fruit trees out on the farm and all such as that we had apples and peaches and everything you could get get out there Interviewer: what about other trees that might be out in the woods 116: that's these pines pine trees Interviewer: okay 116: they ought to make lumber out here Interviewer: okay what about some kind of a shrub or a bush and it's leaves become very red in the fall and some people when they touch it it sort of break out and they say it's poisonous to them 116: it's not poison ivy is it Interviewer: uh um there is a poison ivy isn't it and this one is bigger than that you ever hear of Sumac or Sumac or Sumac something like that 116: I don't believe I've ever heard of that Interviewer: don't think It'd be around 116: sure don't Interviewer: okay and um uh do you have much poison ivy 116: yeah we have a lot out there right next to the uh the fence down on that side right out there is poison ivy Interviewer: {NW} uh and is it more in a bush or a vine #1 or a okay # 116: #2 vine vine # Well it'll spread anywhere poison ivy will Interviewer: uh-uh okay what about different kinds of berries 116: light berries huckleberries Interviewer: huckleberries is that common around here 116: not now they used to be you'd go to the woods and pick um in the woods just like you could do they'd grow up about that high and just be out theres you'd just get a minute out of them or in the swamps or the woods where there's more of them Interviewer: and would you make 116: make pies out of um you'd make good pies Interviewer: I've never had that 116: mm-hmm they're little bitty things Interviewer: uh-uh what about the different kinds of berries you'd get in the grocery store 116: well I don't know if I ever found that Interviewer: you get strawberries occasionally 116: I can if I bought um but I get um out in the country Interviewer: Is that where you were raised 116: {D: by John} you know they'd grow down on the ground Interviewer: what about uh raspberries 116: I've heard of raspberries but I never had no Interviewer: um uh what about some berries that might grow in the woods but are not good to eat and uh 116: cherries cherries would grow in the woods Interviewer: wild cherries 116: we'd have a bunch of horses get drunk on sometimes in our pastures Interviewer: really 116: there'd come the wind and blow them down and they'd be out there so long {B} I was sick off um and I'd get um to grab it by the collar and we were all lying around {X} scared to death and that night we done got sober Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 116: #2 that syrup they got # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # and after he found that out he'd say you been eating them cherries over there Interviewer: how about that 116: they were little bitty red things Interviewer: mm uh what about uh something like uh a poke berry is that uh 116: well that's a poke berry they they grow up tall and have big leaves Interviewer: uh-uh 116: they don't grow stiff like pine tree of nothing like that you know different mm-hmm Interviewer: light blue shell okay 116: some people eat them when you cook when there #1 yum yeah # Interviewer: #2 the leaves right # 116: #1 you know # Interviewer: #2 like mustard # 116: #1 just like them turnips # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 116: {X} they used to go around the woods and get um and they'd cook but I never had um Interviewer: you'd never feast 116: no I'd never feast because I always had turnips and these people you know didn't have um live close to me they'd go off and get um and cook But I'd give them turnips but they gonna try if they liked it Interviewer: mm-hmm 116: they was from the north I think Interviewer: okay what about uh and other person of course there are no mountains out here do you have any sort of bush that's called Lyle a flowering shrub 116: nothing I know of Interviewer: um what about rhododendron are you familiar with that as a flower then again it is a northern one, rhododendron 116: I never have heard of them yeah Interviewer: yeah I think 116: when I was growing up I didn't hear of um Interviewer: I think that's maybe up in the mountains 116: like on the tips Interviewer: okay and uh what word would you use uh uh to talk or tell somebody oh you must be if a married woman doesn't want to make up her mind she'd might say well I just don't really know I better ask my 116: sir Interviewer: any uh any other way she might say my husband like my ol' man or 116: well sometimes you can say my old man and leave the old man a lot Interviewer: okay what about my mister 116: we used to say around here don't do that Interviewer: aha okay um and a man would say well I was asking my 116: wife Interviewer: okay are uh another woman with a much 116: might talk to some other man call um up together and they'd get together and they'd talk Interviewer: sure 116: just like we'd get together about cooking things out there Interviewer: okay and the woman whose lost her husband is called a 116: widow Interviewer: and a man whose wife is dead is a 116: widower Interviewer: okay 116: well I tell ya I hate talking to tell you something I read in Aggie last night well my momma she had a piece of that paper in there I wish I had it oh hold on she had um well I didn't need to my daughter had a baby and her husband stayed in the bedroom with his mother and law and they went up in there alone to lift that long bed Interviewer: in the news paper today 116: In the Aggies Interviewer: oh my 116: yes and there's the newspaper Interviewer: {NW} 116: I wish I had any they'd be it at all Interviewer: probably wouldn't hurt a lot 116: just thought I'd tell you Interviewer: she is I didn't see the paper yesterday and uh what did what did you call your father did you say daddy or father or 116: well I'm not sure I always {B} daddy and everybody would call him daddy Interviewer: and what did you call your father 116: papa Interviewer: okay uh and your grandfather 116: grandfather Interviewer: okay and your other 116: granddaddy Interviewer: uh-uh and your grand and your uh 116: grandmother Interviewer: okay and your mother you called her 116: called her mom Interviewer: uh-uh and your grand children they call their father 116: oh uh they call him grand granddaddy now used to they'd call him papa Interviewer: and you have a son that has children 116: he has two Interviewer: and uh what does he what do his children call him 116: daddy Interviewer: okay 116: they didn't do it old times now they just call him papa change that to daddy there was momma then Interviewer: gotcha okay any other words pop and pa did you used to use them or hear um used in someone else's home 116: uh-huh Interviewer: but you said papa 116: yeah Interviewer: okay and your mother and father together are called your 116: call um momma and papa Interviewer: uh-uh they're your 116: mom and daddy Interviewer: are your parents how how do you say that 116: yeah you say parents Interviewer: okay 116: my parents Interviewer: and uh if you're talking about both your son and your daughters and use just one word you'd say my 116: son Interviewer: yes and if your daughter 116: daughter uh-uh Interviewer: you might say my children 116: mm-hmm Interviewer: have you 116: sometimes I'll say my kids Interviewer: okay any other words anything that that old people used to call um besides kids would your grandfather maybe say or talk about would he say the kids or would he have said 116: sometimes he'd say my kids then he might say my grandchild Interviewer: uh-uh what about words like younguns the younguns do people say that around here and what's the word for something with wheels on it that might push a baby in 116: go carts you could call um go carts a carriage or Interviewer: okay and if your saying that your gonna take that baby out in the go cart or carriage you say well I'm gonna go 116: take ride the baby there Interviewer: okay if you're talking about your children what word would you use to say now that's now John is the most mature of them you'd say he's the most uh grown up of my boys how would you say that maybe you would just use the word grown up 116: I think you could Interviewer: okay {NW} 116: you'll have to help me out Interviewer: well that you know uh 116: I can't think their face Interviewer: uh that's fine if you'd talk about your children you'd say well I've got uh what two sons 116: one son Interviewer: one son and 116: two two daughters Interviewer: oh and uh if a woman is going to have a child you'd say she's 116: pregnant Interviewer: and do you remember any old ways of how people might have said that anything else You ever heard of anything like in health or anything sorta kinda joking term like she's a foot broke or maybe broke her leg to say she has a baby nope 116: no I never Interviewer: okay and if you don't have a doctor to deliver a baby the woman you might have would be called a 116: midwife Interviewer: okay and you say your babies were delivered by doctors 116: a doctor mm-hmm Interviewer: and if a boy an his father have made it the same eyes and the same color hair 116: say they favor Interviewer: and if a woman has taken care of three children until their grown you say well she three children she's 116: she's raised three children Interviewer: okay and if a child has been bad you're gonna say your gonna get a 116: switching Interviewer: okay or uh if it was gonna not be with a switch but with your hand you might say it's gonna be 116: paddle Interviewer: okay and uh if you measure one of your grandchildren you say well uh you are uh four feet and five inches tall thats three inches taller than you were last year you have really 116: grown Interviewer: hows that 116: grown Interviewer: okay 116: that's what we used to say I don't know what they say now Interviewer: #1 they don't mention it anymore # 116: #2 none of um are around no more # Interviewer: alright 116: they Interviewer: and what about a child whose mother and father are not married what is they word that you'd use for 116: um what is that Interviewer: or any word that uh um it might be a joking word even you could say that's an illegitimate child 116: that's what they say Interviewer: uh-uh and have you ever heard the word bastard 116: yeah Interviewer: is that 116: thats the old style the old saying Interviewer: okay you remember any other words 116: no i don't Interviewer: okay um maybe just any words that would apply to black people or a baby whose mother is not married 116: I've never really heard of that kind of man Interviewer: yes 116: just on the news niggers there's that any man Interviewer: okay not that I've heard um okay and if you're talking about uh a child whose very affectionate you might say well she is uh she is uh very loving and if you're talking about somebody else you'd say well she's even more she's the most she is the {D: loviest} how would you say that how one is much more than the other 116: I don't know how I would say it ever hear somebody described as that maybe as sweet as she can be Interviewer: you might say she's the {D: loviest} child 116: yes there she is Interviewer: how would you say that? most loving or {D: loviest} 116: most loving child I reckon because I don't know how else to put it Interviewer: okay 116: she knew people but when she comes over here she was but five years old Interviewer: is there uh 116: and she'd come over here and raise my gate Interviewer: oh well that's nice little children are 116: sweet kid Interviewer: right and uh your brother's son you'd say he's my 116: nephew Interviewer: and uh if uh a child is lost both it's mother and it's father is a or orphan 116: orphan yeah Interviewer: how's that 116: orphan Interviewer: okay and uh does that word mean only if he is in a home or an institution or could it mean if he's with another 116: I believe it would go with that I believe if it's mother and father weren't had passed away Interviewer: okay and uh a person uh who is appointed to take care of an orphan is called it's 116: guardian Interviewer: okay and uh if a woman is going to have lets say a big dinner and in the light off of all the people who are related to her you might say she asked all of her 116: family reunion Interviewer: okay would you be more likely to say kin folks or kin people 116: sometimes maybe Interviewer: or relatives 116: relatives ought to be the main thing Interviewer: okay uh an if your talking about someone up the street uh her name's {B} but she's no 116: candy man Interviewer: okay and if someone come into town and never been there before and the people you know don't quite know him then I'd say well he's a 116: new fella in town Interviewer: okay would you ever use the word foreigner 116: no I never have Interviewer: okay 116: you just say new Interviewer: okay what about a common name for a girl that begins with an m or Jesus's mother's name was 116: um Interviewer: in the bible Jesus's mother's name was m 116: Mary Interviewer: okay and uh 116: {D: the rings right on the yard} Interviewer: yes ma'am there's a whole lot of proper names I'm gonna ask you about another name for a girl that starts with an m or a woman not Mary but George Washington's wife I think there's a cape with maybe um Margaret maybe 116: I don't know Mary Interviewer: mm-kay and what about a nickname that starts with an n there used to be a song uh wait till the sun shines 116: mm Interviewer: and then uh there's uh there's song about Aunt Dina quilt party I was seeing mm-mm 116: like she had a nickname Interviewer: uh uh what about uh uh a song or story that uh talking about who did the cow kick in the stomach in the barn you remember something like that 116: well I've never heard that Interviewer: okay have you ever heard of a nickname for the name Helen 116: No I haven't Interviewer: okay 116: I know a lot of Helen but I never heard no nicknames Interviewer: what about Nelly? 116: Nelly? Interviewer: is that nickname for anybody else 116: I think I'd call her Nell I think straight Nell instead of Nelly. Interviewer: okay and a nickname for a boy named William what might you call him 116: um bob Interviewer: okay {X} what about bill or billy 116: well it may be billy instead of bobby I'm not sure Interviewer: hows that 116: maybe bill Interviewer: alright 116: instead of Interviewer: uh 116: I believe it is Interviewer: uh what about another nickname for a will if William is just shortened of will you ever hear that his name is William we call him 116: Will Interviewer: uh-uh um w uh what about the male goat you know the the the female goats a nanny goat the male is a you say billy goat 116: that's what we call him billy goat Interviewer: okay and uh in the uh in the bible there were uh these four men that wrote the first four books there was the other three was mark, and Luke and John and the first one's name was a man named Matt Matthew 116: yeah Matthew Interviewer: mm-kay and what about a woman that conducts a school that keeps a school she's a 116: teacher Interviewer: okay did you you used to call her teacher or did you have any other words for you remember for it a school mom or school missus 116: no teacher when we was growing up then we'd call um teacher but we'd call them by their names might could be Ms. {B} I went to school with her names like that for some of the school teachers yes I just say Ms. {B} Interviewer: okay is there anybody around here who's last name is cooper or cooper you know that 116: it's Ms. cooper {B} that's what her name {B} that's the only one that I know Interviewer: alright but her okay {B} 116: her husband's dead Interviewer: okay ah what about uh a preacher who's not really trained and who doesn't have a regular pulpit but maybe just preaches here or there 116: {D: a supply kin preacher} Interviewer: okay have you ever heard anybody like that called a jack league preacher 116: yeah I heard that Interviewer: uh what about uh somebody that has a trade that you just kind of learn would you use jack league like you do with a a blacksmith or a mechanic 116: mechanic I'd say would be mechanic working on calls and things Interviewer: would you ever if he's not really trained would you call him what would call you and say he's a jack 116: well that'd be just about right Interviewer: you never heard jackleg? 116: no Interviewer: okay 116: some young jack league we got fixing on that call that's what I'd say Interviewer: you ever hear anybody say he's a jack league lawyer or a jack league doctor 116: yeah yeah they about anybody like that Interviewer: okay he's just jackleg means really not trying 116: if you don't mind him then half the time he's alright Interviewer: okay and your mother's sister you would say she's my 116: aunt Interviewer: and uh back in the bible again Abraham do you remember Abraham's wife was S- 116: There's so many in there that I honestly can't Interviewer: like a bunch of um I might have forgotten so much of this do you remember any of your young friends Sarah or Sarhie 116: I don't remember terribly Interviewer: okay 116: you know there are so many names in there when you read it you go over it and you go back over it and still can't let it just drop Interviewer: sure what about a bakery product something lee's pies 116: blackberry pie Interviewer: or different kinds of pastries Sarah lee you ever hear of a Sarah lee pastry advertised on the T-V see it in the store 116: yes I heard it on the T-V but I never never see it in stores I never get food like that never Interviewer: right how do they call it on T-V Sarah Lee they say Sarah lee or Sarah lee you say it for me 116: Sarah lee I reckon Interviewer: okay 116: that's what we put in Interviewer: okay 116: whether it's right or not Interviewer: uh if your father had a brother whose name was William you'd probably call him then 116: Bill Interviewer: um but he's your father's brother put something in front of it you might say he's my 116: i don't know Interviewer: not your husband's brother your father's brother 116: oh Interviewer: you say so she's my aunt and he's my 116: uncle Interviewer: okay and his name were John you'd say well hello heres 116: uncle john Interviewer: okay how um okay and uh do remember back when you were talking about the civil war the war between the states the who was the general of the southern forces and the high school over in Tomson is named for him 116: I don't know that Interviewer: yeah uh Robert E Lee high school over in Tomson I thought you might have heard of that because the football games but he was uh and 116: invitations to the football Interviewer: sure 116: better in line Interviewer: okay but the head man in the army is uh g- 116: what is he on I know that Interviewer: general general 116: general Interviewer: how 116: general horse Interviewer: okay and the man who introduced the Kentucky Fried Chicken 116: cook that Interviewer: yes but uh you remember on the the bucket you know the big sign get some of 116: Kentucky Fried Chicken Interviewer: yeah who was it who started Kentucky Fried Chicken his last name was Sanders and they a title in front of that what's the chow say Colonel Sanders 116: I don't know what the thing is Interviewer: okay 116: cause I don't have food anymore Interviewer: right 116: I tried um one time tasted like wet chicken stripes #1 I never # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 116: so I never tried none of it Interviewer: that doesn't sound very good does it 116: mm cause I used to raise chickens Interviewer: I bet you made it good too okay but then {NS} what are some other army ranks besides general do you think of any you know he's not a private he's a 116: {D: major} Interviewer: oh you might say a major or 116: #1 uh-uh major # Interviewer: #2 would you ever say captain # or captain 116: captain uh-uh Interviewer: okay and colonel 116: colonel yeah Interviewer: how's that 116: colonel go with it too Interviewer: okay 116: any of them Interviewer: and uh uh the man who presides over the cabinet in court {D} is the 116: jury Interviewer: how 116: jury Interviewer: alright and the person that goes to college is a he's a he's studying in college you say well he's a a college 116: student Interviewer: okay {NW} {NW} excuse me and the person who is employed by the business man to oh type his letters and answer the telephone is a 116: secretary treasurer Interviewer: and a woman who okay and a woman who appears in plays or movies is a not an actor but a 116: an actor Interviewer: if it's a man we call him an actor if its a woman we call her an actress actress 116: there Interviewer: how you say 116: say actress Interviewer: how 116: actress whatever you call um Interviewer: okay and anybody that is born in the united states is we say well he's not a Mexican he's an 116: united states Interviewer: okay or you use American 116: yeah American Interviewer: and 116: he's American Interviewer: okay and um um do you are there any other words to that that white people use to describe black people that we might not have talked about 116: niggers Interviewer: okay anything else 116: that's what they called um back then was niggers Interviewer: that's all you ever called um okay have you ever heard anybody use anything else 116: but for niggers maybe I heard um called coloreds Interviewer: okay 116: coloreds Interviewer: okay and uh {NS} {NW} um the people who are not negroes like us you'd say well that there negroes are we're 116: white Interviewer: okay any other words for uh white person maybe someone who's poor or lazy but is white would you have a word for them he's just a 116: just don't work Interviewer: okay 116: {D: quit it} Interviewer: what about uh um do you use the word white trash 116: sometime people do Interviewer: right what about uh cracker does a cracker mean somebody don't work her or does it mean use the word Georgia cracker or 116: Georgia cracker Interviewer: that just mean somebody who lives in this state 116: mm-hmm Interviewer: #1 does it necessarily # 116: #2 mm-hmm Georgia cracker # Interviewer: okay it doesn't mean that they're lazy or won't work that's just 116: just mean they're Interviewer: from here not from Alabama okay uh {NW} did uh did mr {B} have colored people work for him sometimes 116: oh yeah we'd work niggers all the times on the farm Interviewer: and what would they call your husband what would they call him 116: boss Interviewer: okay did you ever hear master or 116: no I never heard they called him a lot of things not that they called him Mr. {B} or boss Interviewer: okay {NS} uh what about uh a word for somebody who {NW} lived out in the country and maybe just never came to town and maybe didn't know how to act as they did any uh any word for somebody who #1 just always laying about # 116: #2 maybe call um country {D} # Interviewer: #1 # 116: #2 # country what else do you put there country cracker or something #1 might be that or maybe that mm # Interviewer: #2 country cracker maybe cracker might # okay what about hill billy hill billy do you use that word 116: no I never had heard really I can't think right now what they do call um but I'll think later but not now Interviewer: okay 116: country crackers that's what they call um Interviewer: country crackers okay and if you saw somebody downtown and maybe was barefooted and dressed in overalls and just look like he had never had a bath or whatever you might say look at that old 116: cracker Interviewer: okay uh if it's not quite midnight and somebody asks you what time it is you might say well um it's not quite midnight yet 116: eleven o'clock Interviewer: okay and if you wanted just 116: eleven thirty or something Interviewer: okay or uh um would you say it's almost or it's pretty near 116: yeah you could say that Interviewer: would you ever say it's pretty near or petty near midnight 116: yeah Interviewer: you'd say almost how would you be more likely to say it 116: maybe fifteen minutes Interviewer: uh-uh 116: like that Interviewer: uh and if somebody said well it's time to go to bed you might say well it's 116: sleepy time Interviewer: alright okay is 116: about to get up the next morning Interviewer: okay {NW} uh and you might say well we better getting home it's midnight it's 116: time to go home Interviewer: okay 116: lets leave Interviewer: would you be inclined to say it's almost midnight or pretty near midnight which one would you be more likely to say 116: I'd say it's close to midnight Interviewer: close to midnight alright uh if you uh slip say on a slick place and catch yourself you might say this is a dangerous place I almost fell 116: fell Interviewer: I 116: slipped in Interviewer: well alright that I almost fell I nearly fell 116: mm-hmm but if you catch yourself you nearly fell Interviewer: okay and if somebody is waiting for you to go and uh he says will you be ready soon you might say well I'll be with you in 116: two minutes Interviewer: okay and if somebody if you know you're on the right road but you're not sure of the the distance you might ask somebody and say uh if you were going up to there you might say well oh how 116: far is it or something like that Interviewer: oh how's that 116: how far is it down there Interviewer: alright and uh 116: it's fifteen miles Interviewer: uh-uh if you're pointing to something uh nearby you might tell somebody oh 116: that's pretty Interviewer: okay and if you wanted someone to look at it you might say look here look at this 116: I want to see it Interviewer: okay {NW} 116: look at it Interviewer: okay and uh if you want to know how many times in the course of the week you'd say your neighbor goes up town you might say well how do you go up town how how would you say how often how often do you go up town 116: I'd go by myself I don't go but once or twice Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm but how would you # 116: #2 I'd have to walk # Interviewer: yeah how would you ask somebody if you wanted to find out whether or not they were there everyday you'd say how often do you go out of town would you say that 116: yeah you could say that but I don't know what they'd tell or they might go and stay in town somewhere Interviewer: mm-hmm 116: but you can't keep up with them when you do right I know the Fosters over there they go everyday to get their mail Interviewer: but you don't go very #1 and I'd say I don't go very often # 116: #2 I don't go very often # Interviewer: okay um and if you agree with someone and they say well I'm not gonna do that or I'm not gonna vote for that guy you might say well I'm not well mm 116: I'll say I'd knock him on the head Interviewer: okay or would you um use a neither am I uh neither am I you ever say neither am I 116: you can say that Interviewer: how would you say that you would say neither am I just say it for me 116: Neither that Interviewer: neither am I am I going neither am I 116: well that's it then Interviewer: how would you say it 116: I'd say that #1 neither am I # Interviewer: #2 okay # 116: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 116: uh and uh Interviewer: uh what do you call this part of your face up here 116: forehead Interviewer: and uh if you um if you go to the beauty shop you may say well I've got to get my 116: hair set Interviewer: and 116: I'd get everything set Interviewer: and If a man has hair growing here that's a 116: beard Interviewer: and uh uh you have two um you hear out of your 116: ears Interviewer: okay and you say well um um where would the store keeper keep his pencil when you said figure what you can 116: He'd keep it on the table then whole back of his ears Interviewer: okay 116: it is Interviewer: okay and you might say well if he were left handed you'd keep it on his 116: right side Interviewer: on his ear 116: left side Interviewer: okay um would you say left ear 116: what well wouldn't that be the way he Interviewer: uh-uh okay and if you were right handed he'd keep it on his 116: right Interviewer: right ear right what 116: right side Interviewer: okay uh 116: the ear Interviewer: okay and if somebody is um is talking and oh is um chewing gum at the same time and you can't understand and you might say take that chewing gum out of your 116: mouth Interviewer: and uh this part of your body is your your okay or your your throat lays {D} 116: #1 legs{D} # Interviewer: #2 down # okay and what about this little spot right here 116: used to call them {D: goose sores} Interviewer: okay 116: that's what they used to call them I don't know what they call them now Interviewer: they just don't call um anymore I don't think okay and if uh you go to the dentist you have him look at your 116: teeth Interviewer: okay and if you Interviewer: Have him look at your 166: Teeth. Interviewer: Okay and if you have one that's bad he says well I'm gonna have to pull that 166: Tooth. Interviewer: And the flesh around the teeth are the This part you know 166: Gums. Interviewer: Okay. And um the inside of your hand is your 166: Palm of your hand. Interviewer: And if you double it up it's a 166: Fist. Interviewer: #1 You got two of them they're # 166: #2 {NW} # Two fists. Interviewer: Okay. How would say two of 'em two 166: Two you say two fists. Interviewer: Okay. 166: One either one you. Interviewer: At any place where you're you bend is called a 166: #1 This is called an elbow # Interviewer: #2 You say I've # Uh-huh. And 166: This is your knees. Interviewer: Right. And uh any place where bones come together maybe you you say as well I've got getting kind of stiff in my 166: Hips. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But uh what about the word that means all of those places? You know like the hips and this and you say the joints 166: Joints. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Cuz I'm {X} Interviewer: Yeah. And the upper part of a man's body is his you might he's got a broad 166: Shoulder. Interviewer: Okay and the part out of here is his 166: Small. Interviewer: {NW} But you might say this is his uh 166: Chest. Interviewer: Okay. And uh uh this back here is his 166: Shoulder. Interviewer: And two of them are his 166: Shoulders. Interviewer: Uh okay how's that? 166: Shoulders. Interviewer: Okay and they might. They used to measure the height of a horse they didn't say he the horse was so many feet high but so many 166: Feet. Interviewer: They used fists I believe. Did you ever hear 'em talking about the height of a horse and say so many 166: #1 Were you driving him? # Interviewer: #2 Well # Uh well no I just talking about the measurement. But this whole thing is your 166: Hand. Interviewer: Okay. And two 166: Hands. Interviewer: And uh if uh this whole part of your body is your 166: This is your thighs here. Interviewer: Okay. 166: And this is your legs. What you call legs here and Interviewer: Okay. And then down at the bottom are your 166: Foot. Toes. Interviewer: And your two of 'em are Uh uh you wear your shoes on your 166: Foot. Interviewer: Okay two. 166: Feet. Interviewer: Okay. And what about if you hurt yourself right here. You ever heard that called anything 166: Yeah I got it now Interviewer: What would you say 166: {D: Worn flesh isn't it} Is that what you're talking about? Interviewer: Uh-huh if you bump yourself right there you say oo I hit myself on my #1 Shin. # 166: #2 What they're called # Interviewer: You ever 166: Yeah that's where that's Interviewer: #1 oo # 166: #2 where I get # {X} {D: with a rock.} Interviewer: You sure do. Okay. Uh. What about the back part of your thighs like if you're working in the flowers and you're pulling weeds you might say well I had to uh 166: Bend over. Interviewer: Okay. Would you say squat down? Or hunker down? 166: Squat down. I bend over. I just bend over. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if somebody has been sick awhile and he's up and around now you might say well he still looks a little bit 166: Droopy. Interviewer: Okay. What about his if uh any other words for that? 166: Pale. Interviewer: Okay. 166: #1 You gonna get through with me today? # Interviewer: #2 And # Uh I'll quit whenever you get tired. Are you getting tired? 166: No I can make it a little #1 longer. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 166: #1 I get {D: dizzy} # Interviewer: #2 We'll do a little bit more # 166: #1 Sure well I don't want you to # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: have to come back that's the Interviewer: Well no that's no problem at all. 166: You gotta see somebody else. Interviewer: Uh-huh. That's all right no problem. Uh if a person can lift heavy weights you might say my he is really a 166: Strong. Interviewer: Okay and if someone is easy to get along with is always pleasant you might say she's such a 166: Nice sweet person Interviewer: Okay. And if someone is uh is is always just happy you might say she's always 166: Happy. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody's who's always stumbling and falling you know like a teenage boy you might say well he is just always so 166: Clumsy. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody keeps doing things that just uh just don't make any sense at all you might say he's a plain 166: Hard head. Interviewer: Okay. Any other words for that Would you ever say a fool? 166: {X} Interviewer: Okay. 166: Crazy. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever say he's just a plain fool? Or is that kind of strong? Is that kind of seem like it's too ugly to say that? Do you ever say oh he's just a fool. Somebody says maybe you could get him to do some work for you. I say I don't want him to do work for me he's just a 166: too slow. Interviewer: Okay. What about somebody who won't spend any money at all. He's a real 166: Won't do what? Interviewer: Won't spend his money at all. 166: Stingy. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever say he's a tightwad? Have you heard that? 166: I've heard tightwad but I don't Interviewer: A tightwad. 166: Oh yeah yeah. Interviewer: Okay. Uh What about uh miser. Do they ever say somebody say keeps all his money somewhere you ever heard the word miser? 166: No I haven't about money Interviewer: Okay uh uh. What about the word uh uh common. Would you be likely to use that uh in a complimentary or an uncomplimentary way if you're talking about uh a person and you wanted to say well they're just nice everyday people. Would you be likely to say oh they're just common people? Or would it be more likely to mean well they're not very nice people they just common they're just trash. How would what does the word common mean to you? 166: I believe it mean that uh they just the same thing all the time. Interviewer: Okay. I like them they're just #1 common folks. Okay. # 166: #2 Mm-hmm. # {D: Old} people. Interviewer: Okay. #1 Uh. # 166: #2 But they're good. # Interviewer: Right. All right if uh if there's somebody who's uh oh an older man say he's ninety years old but he's just going all the time and real busy. You might say well he's quite for his age. He's quite. 166: Good for his age. Interviewer: Right #1 uh. # 166: #2 Getting around good for his age. # Interviewer: Okay. How any other ways. Would you say he's spry or #1 he's # 166: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: very active. Uh Real peppy. No? Wouldn't say peppy? For somebody's who's ninety and just goes all the time 166: Say he's got good health. Interviewer: Okay. Uh If the children were out late and uh uh you might say well I don't suppose there's anything wrong, but I can't help feeling a little bit 166: Worried. Interviewer: Okay uh. Well you wouldn't say that you feel easy about it you might say 166: Uneasy. Interviewer: Okay. Uh have you ever if you hear somebody saying I don't wanna go upstairs in the dark I'm a- 166: Scared. Interviewer: Okay. Or another way of saying scared might be 166: Uneasy. Interviewer: Okay or afraid. 166: Yeah afraid. Interviewer: Okay and if somebody isn't afraid now, but she when she was real little she Would you say she used to be? 166: What was what was that question? Interviewer: Uh if you're talking about somebody and you say well she isn't afraid now she's a big girl 166: She used to be. Interviewer: Okay. 166: {NW} Interviewer: And or then you might say well she's afraid now. I don't understand it she 166: hasn't been afraid when she was little Interviewer: Okay. Uh. What's the opposite of she used to be afraid? She didn't used to be afraid or She's afraid now but she didn't used to be? Would you say that? 166: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. Somebody who leaves a lot of money out on the table and leaves the doors unlocked. You might say well he's mighty 166: Careless. Interviewer: And uh if uh if you're talking about somebody she's just uh uh they might say well there's nothing really wrong with Aunt Lizzie but sometimes she acts kind of 166: Just not right. Interviewer: Okay any other ways of saying that? 166: Yeah say How cuz you you mean she's mentally but at the same time it wouldn't be called that would it Interviewer: Okay would you uh 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Would you say she's kind of queer? # 166: Yeah. Interviewer: Does that mean anything else? 166: Yeah that means it's she uh has different ways #1 from hers. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Okay. What would you call somebody who always wants to have his own way? #1 He's just a # 166: #2 Hard headed. # Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you there's somebody you can't joke with at all they'll get mad you might say well you you can't joke with him without losing his temper. He's mighty 166: Churlish. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and to say that somebody just absolutely lost their temper completely you might say well I was just kidding him and he got 166: Mad. Interviewer: And if somebody is about to lose his temper and you don't want him to you might say now just 166: Touchy Interviewer: Okay. Or uh uh and if there's a an emergency and everybody's getting excited and you want to tell them to be easy you might say now just keep 166: Calm. Interviewer: How would you say that? 166: Calm. C-L-M. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if you've been working very hard and you might say well I am just 166: Give out. Interviewer: Okay. Uh any other ways of saying that? 166: Tired. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. What about uh If you say well if I work uh very hard I just real quickly I wear out Would you say that? 166: Give out Interviewer: Okay. uh have you ever used wear out? 166: You you can #1 use that # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 166: {D: if you wanted} Interviewer: And then you might say well I was working in the yard and I 166: So tired. Interviewer: I just wore 166: Out. Interviewer: Oh how would you say it 166: Wore out. Interviewer: Okay. If a person has been quite well and you suddenly hear that they have a disease you might say last night she 166: Was alright. Interviewer: Yeah and then suddenly she 166: Uh had a stroke or had a Interviewer: Okay. Would you say she got sick or she took sick In the middle of the night. 166: She had a spell. Interviewer: Okay okay and if uh you wanna say well uh he's sick now uh but uh he'll be up again by 166: Keep it going. Interviewer: Okay. 166: He's sick but {D: out there} drive a car. Interviewer: Okay. And if you mean sometime in the future he'll get better you might say by and by or uh uh you mean well talking about the work well there's a lot of work to do but we'll get it done 166: After a while. Interviewer: Alright. And if someone sat in a draft and uh began to cough you might say #1 now look if you stay out in that and he what? # 166: #2 Too cold # Too cold. Interviewer: Okay. And if it affected his voice you might say listen he's if he sounds strange when he talks listen 166: Hoarse. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if he has a {NW} You say listen to that 166: Dry cough. Interviewer: And uh if you like if it's getting late you might say well I better go to bed I'm feeling a little bit I'm ready to go to bed I it's getting late. I'm feeling a little bit 166: Sleepy. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say well every morning at six o'clock I 166: Get up. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you you say I didn't want to get up but I 166: Had to. Interviewer: Okay. And uh and so maybe you want to just say that you're not asleep but you stayed in bed. You say well at six o'clock this morning I not I got up but I just I 166: Went back to sleep Interviewer: Okay but if you mean just to wake up you might say I didn't mean to get up, but I 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Woke. I woke up. # And uh if you're uh if you tell one of the children that uh that uh so and so is upstairs asleep you might say go up and 166: #1 Go to bed. # Interviewer: #2 You want him to # Yeah well you want the child to go up and tell this person to get up so you're gonna say go up and shake him go up and 166: Get up and Interviewer: wake him up. How. 166: Just shake him to wake him up. Interviewer: Okay. 166: And get up breakfast is ready. Interviewer: Okay and if uh if uh some medicine is still on the table beside the bed you might say why haven't you 166: Took that medicine. Interviewer: And the patient might say well uh uh I 166: Forgot it. Interviewer: Okay. And he might say yes that he'd already had it he might say well just a half an hour ago I 166: Took some. Interviewer: And I'll Some more later on. I'll So later on I'll 166: Take it. Interviewer: Okay. And if uh you can't hear anything at all you might say well I'm just stone 166: De- Deaf {C: mispronounces deaf as deef} or Deaf {NW} D-E-A-F #1 How do you pronounce that # Interviewer: #2 yeah. You say both? # You hear both of 'em deaf and deaf {C: deef}? 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if somebody can hear a little bit not very well. They're not completely deaf you might say uh well he's getting a little bit #1 He's not deaf. How's that? # 166: #2 Hard of hearing. # Hard of hearing. Interviewer: okay. and uh if if he began to sweat when he was working in the sun you might say well um 166: I got hot. Interviewer: Uh-huh. He in the sun. He to mean that all that perspiration you say he's in the hot sun he's 166: Sweaty. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say well you take your uh jacket off and your clothes are all sticking to you might say look how I've been 166: Sweating. Interviewer: And uh if you have a sore that comes to a head you say 166: #1 Rising # Interviewer: #2 this is. # 166: That's a rising is what we used to call Interviewer: Okay. Uh and if water uh you put on the stove and it gets so hot that it will start bubbling you say it's 166: Boiling. Interviewer: Okay. And if uh and do you ever call a rising a boil? 166: Hmm? Interviewer: Do you ever call a rising a boil? 166: Mm-hmm. I had 'em when I was young. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if it opens the stuff that drains out what do you call that? 166: A lot of times you have to have it done. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call that stuff that may #1 run out # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay. uh and if you have an infection in your hand {X} and it gets big you might say my hand is 166: Swelled. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if has uh and I say talking about your wrist I don't what's the matter with my wrist it has 166: #1 It has a cramp in it # Interviewer: #2 This way. # 166: #1 {D: And I just} # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh and if it's just getting bigger # If it's just getting bigger it has 166: Swelled. Interviewer: Okay. And then you might say well I hope it won't tomorrow 166: Be better tomorrow. Interviewer: Okay I hope it won't I hope it won't 166: Be sore. Interviewer: Okay Um and if you have a blister and there's a little bit of something inside of it clear 166: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 what do you call that? # 166: Um {D: They} call it busts. Interviewer: #1 Uh # 166: #2 Bust for that # {D: correction} to come out. Interviewer: Okay what what drains out of it. Of a blister if it bursts. 166: #1 Puss. # Interviewer: #2 There's a little bit of # Is it puss if it's clear and it's just like 166: Puss we used to call it. Interviewer: Okay 166: #1 I don't know they # Interviewer: #2 how's that # 166: have so many names now #1 puss # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 166: is what we used to call it. And then you nee- stick a needle in it or something to let it out. Interviewer: Okay. And if in a war uh a soldier has a wound say a bullet goes through his arm you say he got a bad 166: Bad uh arm. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh if someone was stabbed and they had to uh to go to the doctor you say I've gotta get a doctor to look at the what do you call that place where the knife went in a w- 166: To the doctor. #1 You would call it a wound # Interviewer: #2 to look at # Okay. Uh what about do you remember a long time ago maybe uh around a wound there would be a kind of skinless growth and it would be hard and uh white. A granular looking substance might form around the edge and sometime it had to be cut out or burned out. Do you remember anything like that? Some kind of flesh did you ever hear? 166: No I haven't Interviewer: You ever heard of something called proud flesh. 166: Yeah I've heard of that. Interviewer: How is that? 166: Swelled up Interviewer: Uh-huh How do you call it? 166: Pr- what you called it. Interviewer: #1 Proud flesh. # 166: #2 Proud flesh. (C: mispronounces proud} # Interviewer: Okay. And what kind of medicine do you put on if you get a little bitty cut on your finger you might say well I'll put some 166: {X} Interviewer: Okay. What about that red stuff that burns. 166: Iodine. Interviewer: And uh what about something they used to give for a tonic for malaria that tasted real bad? 166: Um. #1 {D: Chill} tonic # Interviewer: #2 Was it # 166: we used to take what's called a chill tonic when we was growing up. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you ever have quinine or 166: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 quinine. # 166: We took quinine yeah. Interviewer: How is it? 166: Quinine. Interviewer: Okay. And if a person was shot and didn't recover you might say well he 166: Gone. Interviewer: Okay what other ways of saying that? He I I think I heard you say somebody passed on 166: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 Any other ways? # 166: #2 Somebody was shot and killed. # Interviewer: Mm-hmm. How would the preacher maybe talking about it in church say it. He Would he say he passed on? Or he died. 166: Died. Interviewer: Okay. Uh 166: Passed away they're saying that now. #1 Passed away # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 166: we used to say die Interviewer: Okay. Uh what about any sort of joking way use of it they might say it about oh let's say it was somebody that was an old skin flint you might say well that old skin flint finally 166: {D: Found a good humor.} Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Do you ever hear kick the bucket? 166: Yeah Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 166: #2 Heard that. # Interviewer: Yeah Okay Uh What about uh when you're telling somebody that maybe I don't know uh I don't know what he died 166: with Interviewer: Okay. And uh what about uh the place where people are buried 166: #1 Cemetery # Interviewer: #2 What do you call # Okay and if it's out in the country. And very small 166: Small cemetery. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if it's around the church it's a cemetery is there a different word for one if it's not around a church but just maybe out on the farm like just one family used. 166: Definitely that's definitely the word, but I don't know how to say it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Do you ever say uh 166: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 graveyard. # 166: Grave site. Interviewer: Grave site. 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: That's what the area 166: out in the woods. Interviewer: Okay. 166: I know several around here that's in the woods. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay. What about the box that people are buried in. What do you call that? 166: Um casket. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 166: #2 They used to make 'em when we was coming up # Take wood and make a Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 166: #2 casket. # They had no {X} then. Interviewer: Well who made it? So {B} the members of the family or friends? 166: Friends. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: {X} like that it's that's been years and years ago Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And how would they would they line them with something? 166: I don't remember because I was small then. I was just twelve years old when he died Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 166: #1 But I # Interviewer: #2 And # 166: remember making it but they didn't make it at the house {X} had it somewhere else #1 {D: and made it.} # Interviewer: #2 Right. # 166: I never did see the inside. Interviewer: And what is the ceremony called when somebody dies? 166: Conduct a funeral. Interviewer: Alright. And if the people are dressed in black and they're being very sad you might say the family's in 166: Mourning. That's what we used to call it. Interviewer: {NW} Excuse me. 166: But now they call it grieved. Interviewer: Oh okay. And uh what do you say in response if somebody says how're feeling you wanna say oh just 166: Pretty good. Interviewer: Alright. {NW} I'm sorry. If somebody's troubled you might 166: #1 perhaps you're getting chilly ain't you # Interviewer: #2 say. # No ma'am I'm no I'm very comfortable if you're alright we'll do a little bit more here Okay. If somebody's in trouble you might say oh he'll come out alright don't 166: Worry. Interviewer: And uh a disease of the joints is called uh when you get still in your joints and they hurt that's 166: Arthritis. Interviewer: Okay another kind 166: Um bursitis. Interviewer: Okay and rheum 166: I always call it just straight arthritis because that's what it is but they give everything new names Interviewer: Sure. Did they used to call it arthritis or did they ever use to call it what about rheumatism? 166: Yeah rheumatism. Interviewer: Is that about the same? 166: Yes it's about the same. Interviewer: What about a disease that they just don't have much anymore of the throat. Blisters would get inside of it and uh children would just choke with it {NW} 166: Diphtheria Interviewer: Don't have that much anymore do they? 166: {NW} My boy had it when he was a kid Interviewer: Is that right 166: #1 He almost died with it too # Interviewer: #2 Real sick # He died 166: He {D: liked to} Interviewer: #1 Oh # 166: #2 Doctor come # {X} next morning. And said well there's no use to give him {NS} said his tongue turned blue And I was {D: trying to} go to bed. I said where do you want. {D: I} said him another one try it. and he gave him that other shot and and in a little while the child was alright {D: things} was in his throat. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Goodness that was something wasn't it. 166: And one child scared me the lady come and seen her and was reading said you know miss {D: Bible said} miss uh so and so young had a child that choked to death and fell {D: over in the wood} {X} with it. Interviewer: Goodness. 166: {X} I guess we're interrupting this. Interviewer: No that's fine. Uh what about a disease that sorta makes you turn yellow. 166: Yellow jaundice. Interviewer: Okay. And what about if you have your appendix taken out you might say you had an attack of 166: Appendicitis. Interviewer: And if somebody ate something that didn't agree with him and it came back up again you'd say he had to 166: Vomit Interviewer: And if somebody is uh pretty bad all this way. You might say oh he was leaning over the fence and more and more he was You have another word besides vomit? 166: Mm. Fell over. Interviewer: Mm yeah but uh but for the action of vomiting if you say well he uh he uh what about throw up? Or up 166: Used to call it throwing up {D: straight out} but now they've changed it to something else. Interviewer: Okay. Uh any you don't remember any other sorta joking ways of saying that? Don't remember anything like 166: No. Gag and I know Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: A lot of times they say he's gagging #1 real gagging. # Interviewer: #2 Oh # Okay. And if a person uh vomited you might say oh he was sick 166: to his stomach. Interviewer: How. 166: Stomach. Was sick on his stomach. Interviewer: Sick on Okay uh 166: That's what we used to now they've changed everything so I may be wrong Interviewer: No I want to know any that you remember the way it used to be or now either one. Uh what about if uh somebody's very anxious to tell about things you say well just as she as soon as she got the news she came right over to 166: See about it. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 Curiosity. # Interviewer: Okay and she just came over to uh to tell would you say to tell the news. 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Cause I got that close to me. Interviewer: Okay. Okay and if you invite somebody to come over you might say well now if you don't come I 166: Get mad. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if uh if you're both uh you and someone else are going to be glad to see me you might say now we 166: Expecting. Interviewer: Okay we'll be uh 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Would you ever say we'll be glad to see you. # 166: Glad to see you. Interviewer: Okay. And if a child is misbehaving then you might say if you do that again I'll 166: Switch you. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever say I'll uh Uh I'll go and tell your mother 166: Uh tell yeah. Interviewer: #1 How'd you say # 166: #2 {X} # If anybody you know like children I had their children that {X} instead of switching them I would tell them I was gonna tell their mother. Interviewer: Okay. And maybe if you tell a child to do something and he doesn't do it and he's being rude and you say well I'll just go and 166: Do {D: it myself} Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever say uh uh talking about uh well I I guess we probably have all that uh what about uh how would you describe it if a boy is interested in a girl. You say he is what her he's 166: In love with her. Interviewer: Okay you ever hear courting. 166: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 What about # 166: #2 Courting it used to be # courting all the time. Couple are courting Interviewer: uh courting okay. What about sparking? 166: Well I've heard that too. Interviewer: Remember any other words for that Keeping company. 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Um. If a boy is paying serious attention to a girl what do you say he's doing he's courting would you use courting there? 166: Yeah. Go and see her. Interviewer: Mm k. 166: Have a date. Interviewer: Okay and if it gets more serious 166: You say they're gonna get married Interviewer: Okay and what do they call him. He's her 166: Sweetheart. Now that's what they used to called them {X} whatever it is now they have a new name for it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if a girl's putting on her best dress her little brother might say oh she's fixing up for her 166: Beau. Interviewer: Okay and uh she is his 166: #1 Sweetheart. # Interviewer: #2 {D: Used} to # Okay. Any other words for the sweetheart for a girl. 166: Well I don't remember #1 what it is growing up # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 166: when I was coming up I don't know what they do these days. Interviewer: Okay and what about if a if a boy comes home with lipstick on his collar his little brother might look at him and say you been 166: Kissing Interviewer: Okay any other words for that? Kissing. Any old words that you remember for kissing. 166: No. Interviewer: Okay. 166: #1 Kiss that girl # Interviewer: #2 What about # 166: That's what it is The girl kissed you. Interviewer: Okay. And if he asked her to marry him and she doesn't want to what do you say she did to him 166: She they used to say kicked Interviewer: She kicked him okay. 166: Not kick him but meant that uh word that he wasn't going {X} that boy kicked that girl. Interviewer: Okay what about jilted. 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 Uh # 166: #2 Yeah either one. # Interviewer: And so uh if she didn't turn him down they went ahead and got 166: Married. Interviewer: And at a wedding the man who stands up with the groom is the 166: Father-in-law to the girl Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 The boy's father # Interviewer: Okay you ever hear him called best #1 man or the groomsmen # 166: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And the girl that stands up with the bride is her 166: Her best best friend Interviewer: Okay. And do you remember anything about a real noisy party that they the people of the community used to get together and come to the couple's house when they just got married 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What'd they call that? Shiver. Shivaree 166: I don't remember what to call that. {D: Cheering on my wedding} Interviewer: How? 166: {D: Cheering} 'em Interviewer: Yeah. Did did they ever do that when you were young 166: Y- No not when I was right young but later on they picked it up you know throwing rice on 'em and things like that Interviewer: #1 Mm # 166: #2 Like they # do now but no then you just went mad and that was it. Interviewer: Right 166: Didn't have all this other Interviewer: Right. You don't remember anything about a crowd of people coming in the middle of the night and rattling pans and so forth outside 166: #1 Yeah they # Interviewer: #2 the # 166: used to do that in olden times. Bunch of them get together and you know just Interviewer: Yeah. 166: Go and ring a bell ring bells and things. {D: A lot was} Christmas times anyway. Interviewer: Yes oh 166: Regular folk people had to work so hard they had to go to bed and sleep Interviewer: Sure. Um Okay if you were telling somebody that yesterday you went to {D: Ellaville} and you saw such and such you might say oh yesterday I was #1 In {D: Ellaville} # 166: #2 {D: Ellaville} # And so Interviewer: Would you say in {D: Ellaville} 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Would you ever say up # to {D: Ellaville} or over in {D: Ellaville} 166: I went up to {D: Ellaville} that's the way that I say it Interviewer: Okay what about a town down south of here I went 166: I went down Interviewer: Okay and if it was over east you might say What would you say there 166: I say went down down but don't matter if it Interviewer: Okay and what about plains. How would you say that? 166: I went up to Plains. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 {D: so} # that's up with me Interviewer: Uh-huh 166: To me and that's down Interviewer: Uh-huh 166: And some people call that up Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 But I don't # Never have Interviewer: Okay Um And if you're somebody's in town and you wanna say well he stays with such and such a family say the Browns how would you say that. He lives the Browns. 166: Lives with Interviewer: Okay and if you're talking about all of uh the people who were at a party maybe it was noisy and loud you might say well the police came and got the 166: whole business. Interviewer: Okay and uh where do people like to go out to on an evening where they uh have music and maybe dance 166: Dance hall. Interviewer: And uh if if the children get out of school at four o'clock you say at school at four o'clock school 166: Is out Interviewer: Okay. And uh after vacation they say well when does school 166: Close Interviewer: Okay and if September they say when is it going to 166: Start Interviewer: Okay 166: They all run to grandmothers and tell her to go. Interviewer: {NW} 166: When they get out of school Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if a boy left home to go to school and uh and didn't actually go but maybe 166: Skipped school. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you say well you go to school to get an 166: Learning Interviewer: Okay or if you had a college 166: Education Interviewer: And uh after high school though you go where do you go to after 166: On to college. Interviewer: And uh if you got to kindergarten what then the first uh school is called what The first class you go to is called 166: Kindergarten Interviewer: Uh-huh and then you go to 166: Regular school Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh first grade 166: yeah. Interviewer: Did they used to say first reader or primer 166: First grade's all I lear- #1 ever heard # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # Okay and at school you sit at a 166: Desk Interviewer: And a lot of them or several 166: Mm-hmm Interviewer: You say Well it wasn't not just this desk but all the 166: All of 'em Interviewer: All the 166: Desks. Interviewer: Okay. And the building especially for books is called a 166: What is it called library Interviewer: Okay and if you want to mail a package you go to the 166: to the post office. Interviewer: And if you go to see a play or a movie you go to the 166: Theater. Interviewer: And if you're sick you go to the 166: Doctor. Interviewer: And the building you go to if you go to stay several nights is a when you're sick 166: Go to the doctor and then to the um hospital Interviewer: And if you're taken of by a doctor he usually will have some help by several the women who help the doctor are 166: Nurses Interviewer: And uh if you go catch a train you go to the 166: {D: Went} into the depot Interviewer: Okay and uh if uh you might also call it might say the depot or the uh rail 166: Uh the uh bus station Interviewer: Okay or the railroad 166: Yeah railroad. Interviewer: Okay and uh the main part of town if it's uh like this you say that's the city uh place where there's grass and trees maybe around the courthouse is the what do you call that area downtown 166: Well I call that courthouse already. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 Cuz # we have it down here. Interviewer: Right have you seen any where there's no building in the middle maybe just grass and trees and uh benches. 166: Not up in town I haven't. Interviewer: Okay Uh what are you calling it if somebody instead of walking straight across a street at an intersection walks crossways 166: Crossways Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 Going across the street # Interviewer: Uh and the the vehicle that used to run on tracks with a wire over head in town 166: What did they call them little things there used to be a lot of them I lived right close to the railroad when I was small. Interviewer: Yeah. Uh electric car or a trolley or trolley car 166: Must be a trolley. Interviewer: What about tram? 166: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Ever heard of 'em. Okay # And if you're riding the bus you may tell the bus driver the next corner is where I want to 166: Get off. Interviewer: And uh uh the uh uh {D: Americas} is the what of {D: Sumpter} county. 166: {D: America soldier.} Interviewer: Is the what do you call it to Sumpter county 166: Yeah Sumpter county Interviewer: You say it's the county seat or the county capital? 166: County seat. #1 {D: I guess} # Interviewer: #2 Okay # 166: But I know it's not capital. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh uh the the post master is employed by the federal 166: Federal um Interviewer: g- 166: Postal Interviewer: Uh-huh 166: #1 well # Interviewer: #2 Are you # The people in Washington are in charge of the g- 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 All the # 166: Well I call it {D: a government trial} Interviewer: Okay. and the police in a town are supposed to keep 166: Peace if he can Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 If he can do it # Interviewer: Okay And uh do you ever hear it called law and 166: Uh Interviewer: Keep law and order? 166: Keep law order uh-huh Interviewer: #1 Okay how is # 166: #2 That's what they're fixing to do now # Policemen's {D: off} {X} and on the news other day they sent two whole half a train {D: and they called ten twenty} sent twenty-six policemens {D: on} train and said they're gonna put tighter rules on it Interviewer: #1 Is that right # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Okay and if you you talk about the law you may put that together with the word order you say law and how do you say that? 166: Order or or Interviewer: #1 Order yeah # 166: #2 How do you say that # Order. Interviewer: You say law and order. 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: How do you say it? 166: Order. Interviewer: Okay. 166: I guess that's right Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NW} And that uh fight we mentioned it before talking about Robert E Lee between the North and the South that big war what how'd you call that 166: War I reckon. Interviewer: Yeah would you say the 166: #1 {D: The war between} # Interviewer: #2 Civil War? # 166: the two Interviewer: #1 two states. # 166: #2 The {D: green} states okay. # Interviewer: And before they had the electric chair murderers were 166: {D: They were} hung Interviewer: #1 And. Oh. # 166: #2 Electrocuted. # 166: Two three or four years it's been going on. We uh, year before last we went to {D: Dearmount} but last year come home and year before that we went to uh Santa Fe, New Mexico. I've been out there two or three times. Twice I know. We went to Denver once and then my daughter comes home the next year. Interviewer: Sure. Okay well uh the uh the state up north that's supposed to have the most people in it that has the largest city is what? New, New York. New York. 166: I believe so {D: but that's it} you go head and name 'em {D: and I'll say} Interviewer: Okay uh now I just wanted your pronunciation of New York State, you know. 166: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 You say that # for me. 166: New York state. Interviewer: Alright I and uh uh Baltimore is in Maryland. 166: Mm-hmm that's what they call it. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 166: #2 Maryland. # Interviewer: How's that 166: Maryland. Interviewer: Okay. 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 And # 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Right and what are some of the other states around, uh, well what's our state first is uh 166: United States. Interviewer: Okay and the one that we live in here is uh Georgia. 166: Yeah. Interviewer: And and what are some of the other states around here. Like near Georgia. 166: What? Interviewer: What are the names of some of the other states around here. 166: I'll tell ya I can't tell ya. Interviewer: Yeah well uh uh there's uh Richmond is the capital of Vir- 166: Virginia. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Raleigh is the capital of North 166: North Carolina Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh can you talk a little louder I'm afraid I'm not getting it And uh then there besides North Carolina there's 166: South Carolina. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: {X} Granddaughter called me from the there the other night. Interviewer: Is that right? And uh the one down south of us is where they grow all the oranges and everything is 166: Florida. Interviewer: And uh uh some of the other states down around uh Florida over to the west of us is uh Ala 166: Alabama. Interviewer: And uh then Baton Rouge is the capital of Louis- Louisiana {C: tape weird} 166: I don't know really {C: tape weird} Interviewer: Louisiana. 166: Yeah. Interviewer: How you say it? 166: Louisiana. Interviewer: Okay. And uh the blue grass state where all the horses and so forth supposed to be the racehorses is Ken 166: What? Interviewer: Ken- kentucky. 166: #1 If you say so # Interviewer: #2 Kentucky # 166: It's Kentucky. Interviewer: Yeah okay I just wanted your pronunciation of it. 166: Kentucky. Interviewer: And um then uh just between Georgia and Kentucky is Tenn 166: Tennessee. Interviewer: And uh uh then there's Missouri. 166: {X} #1 Missouri # Interviewer: #2 Missouri # Okay. And Little Rock is the capital of uh Ark- 166: Arkansas. Interviewer: And uh let's see uh Jackson is the capital of Mississ- 166: Mississippi. Interviewer: And uh the largest state uh out west is Did you go through this state where the cowboys and so forth were supposed to be when you went out west? 166: #1 I don't know # Interviewer: #2 The lone star state # 166: What? Interviewer: They call it the lone star state. 166: Lone lone star Interviewer: Yeah. Eh Uh Texas is the one I wanted you to say. Texas. 166: Texas. Interviewer: Right you know that's the one they say where the the cowboys and so forth are. You didn't go through there when you 166: No. Interviewer: {X} 166: No we didn't go through {D: Let's see} where that place up by where that {D: manor.} Oh I can't think of it. No it wasn't Texas though I don't think. Interviewer: Uh what about uh up around Tulsa Tulsa Did you say you went to Oklahoma? 166: Yes that's what I said Oklahoma. Interviewer: Oklahoma. And okay up east uh all of the states around Maine and Connecticut and in there are called the 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 They're # 166: Maine. Interviewer: Yeah and uh uh Massa- 166: #1 Massachusetts # Interviewer: #2 Massachusetts. # How's that? 166: Massachusetts. Interviewer: Okay and they're all called the 166: Kinda choked up I can't talk. Interviewer: Yeah well uh all those states up east in general are called the New England states. 166: Nebraska now I've got a daughter in Nebraska. Interviewer: Is that right. 166: Omaha, Nebraska Interviewer: Okay and then here are some cities that I I need to have you pronounce. Uh in Maryland the biggest city is called Balt- there's a 166: #1 Called Baltimore. # Interviewer: #2 cape. # Uh-huh and the capital of where they make all the laws and everything is where the president is and all that business. The government is in Wa- 166: Washington. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: #1 My daughter has to # Interviewer: #2 And # 166: call too. Interviewer: Is that right? And oh that's right in her job. 166: She's a {X} she has ten states. Interviewer: Right. 166: She's a {X} to 'em. She was transported down Nebraska. Omaha. {X} and she's got ten states. She's got Interviewer: She probably has to uh 166: {D: parked} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. She flies probably a good bit. 166: Yeah. They called expenses. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay and uh Washington there's Washington state that's way out of course way out west but when you're not talking about Washington state you might say well no she's in Washington. 166: State. Interviewer: Yeah, but the one not Washington state the one where the capital is you say Washington D. 166: Georgia. Interviewer: D.C. #1 You say D.C. # 166: #2 {D: D.C.} # Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay and in Missouri the biggest city in it supposed to have a real famous blues song named for it. St. Louis. 166: #1 Saint # Interviewer: #2 Saint # 166: #1 I can't # Interviewer: #2 How # 166: {X} #1 I don't know what # Interviewer: #2 St. Louis # 166: {X} St. Louis I saw St. Louis that's what Interviewer: #1 And uh # 166: #2 {D: I thought} # Interviewer: In in South Carolina the uh the big ol' historical seaport that was named for a king of England Charles. Charleston. 166: Charleston. Interviewer: And in Alabama what uh what's uh 166: Birmingham. Interviewer: And uh what what's another town in Alabama maybe. M- 166: #1 {D: Norton Alabama} # Interviewer: #2 Mon- # Yes and. 166: That right? Interviewer: Uh I think that's one and Montgomery. 166: Yeah. Interviewer: How do you say that one. 166: Montgomery. Interviewer: Okay and uh. The one down on the gulf is called Mobile. 166: Mobile, Alabama. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh up in North Carolina some of the towns up there one way up in the mountains. A big resort city in western part of North Carolina. Ash Asheville. 166: What? Interviewer: Asheville. 166: Asheville. Interviewer: Or Asheville. 166: Ashy. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 {D: Way I} # What I call it. I don't know it's right or not. Interviewer: Okay. 166: #1 {D: Asheville} # Interviewer: #2 And that's fine. # And in uh Tennessee what are some of the towns up in there? Chatta- Chattanooga. 166: {X} Interviewer: Chattanooga. Do you 166: Chattanooga, Tennessee yeah. Interviewer: How do you say that? 166: Chattanooga. Interviewer: Okay and Knox- 166: Knoxville. Interviewer: #1 And uh # 166: #2 Knoxville Tennessee. # Interviewer: Okay and uh then there's too there's Mem- 166: #1 {D: Tennessee.} # Interviewer: #2 Mem- # Memphis. Memphis. 166: #1 Memphis Memphis. # Interviewer: #2 Nother one in Tennessee. # 166: #1 M-E-N something. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # Right. And uh of course the capital of Georgia is The capital of our state is At- Atlanta. 166: Yeah. I started to say Atlanta. Interviewer: Yeah and then the one down toward the south that's a seaport in Georgia S- Savannah. 166: {X} Georgia. Interviewer: Savannah. 166: Savannah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You been down that way? 166: Yeah I've been through Savannah Interviewer: Yeah it's a pretty town. 166: Nine years ago. Uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay and then uh what's the biggest town uh besides Americus around here what's the next good sized town you might go to. #1 Not all the way # 166: #2 Atlanta. # Interviewer: Atlanta. but but not that far north. Might go to S- mm 166: I don't know. Interviewer: Do you where do you go to the doctor? Here? 166: The doctor down {X} Interviewer: uh-huh. Uh what about Macon. 166: Well I've been to #1 Macon # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # how far is that? 166: really I can't tell you. Interviewer: Well 166: #1 I'd say about ninety miles. # Interviewer: #2 {D: Sixty} # Is it that far 166: Something like that. Interviewer: uh-huh. 166: Just guessing at it. Interviewer: uh. 166: I don't {x} Atlanta's a hundred and thirty-one. Interviewer: Yeah. 166: That's on the other side of town. {X} Interviewer: Right. How do you go you go up nineteen? 166: We go up the old old road. Interviewer: {D: The Thomaston} 166: {X} Yeah through {D: Thompson Creek} Interviewer: Okay and uh then fort Benning is near what town in 166: #1 Columbus. # Interviewer: #2 Georgia. # 166: {D: I can answer that} Interviewer: Right. And uh over in New Orleans the biggest city in in uh {X} Uh the city known for the Mardi Gras then that I just said is Uh. New Or 166: New Orleans. Interviewer: And uh the capital of Louisiana is uh Baton Baton Rouge or Baton Rouge how do you call that? 166: {D: Bacon.} Baton. B-A-T I believe Interviewer: Yeah how do you say it. 166: {X} How you spell that R-O-U-N-G Interviewer: R-U-G-E I believe how do you pronounce it around here do you reckon? 166: {D: I've never said that} Interviewer: #1 Don't pronounce it okay. # 166: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 Uh # 166: #2 We should go back to the # Lousy Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 166: #2 chickens! # Interviewer: Okay well there's one more of these and we'll be back with them. Um the biggest city in Southern Ohio is just across the river from Kentucky there Cinca- Cincinnati. 166: What? Interviewer: The the biggest city in southern Ohio is Cincinnati. 166: #1 Mm. Cincinnati. C-I-N-C # Interviewer: #2 How do you say that? # Can you say Cincinnati? How? 166: Cincinnati. Interviewer: Okay. And uh the biggest city in Kentucky is Louis 166: Louisville {C: pronounced like Lewis-ville} Interviewer: Oh how do you say it? 166: L-O-U-S-V-I double L Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 E I believe # Interviewer: Okay. You you call it how? 166: Loosen Loose {C: stuttering} #1 Louisville. # Interviewer: #2 Louisville. # okay okay. And uh oh uh and how far is it from uh from here to say {D: Ellaville} up there. 166: {D: Fifteen} miles. Interviewer: Ah ah 166: I answer that because you see the signs Interviewer: Sure. 166: {D: Fifteen} miles from I reckon it's from the heart of town. Interviewer: Right and if uh if someone asks you to go with them say up to {D: Ellaville} you're not sure whether you want to go you might say oh I don't know How would you tell them that if he asks you to go 166: #1 I'd try to show 'em # Interviewer: #2 with him # Yeah. What if he invites if somebody say your neighbor invites you to go with them and you're not really sure that you want to go you might say oh I don't know 166: It's too far. Interviewer: Okay. Or you might would you be more likely to say I don't know uh if I want to go or I don't know whether or not I want to go Which of those would you probably be more likely to say. 166: I don't know what I want to go Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 or not. # Interviewer: And uh if you had 166: #1 I'm choked up # Interviewer: #2 And # 166: #1 this morning # Interviewer: #2 {D: Yeah} # 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # bothering you we can stop. Much more to do this time though but we can stop for a little while any time you want to. 166: Well I want to get through with it. Interviewer: Okay and if you have a very sick friend and he's not likely to get any better you might #1 say # 166: #2 Say better off. # Interviewer: Okay it it seems 166: Pass on that's what I said about this fella yesterday. He had tumor in his brains had cancer of the brains. They operated on him and he lived ever since {D: August I believe} {D: Died} I believe Saturday morning. {X} Interviewer: Yeah that's terrible. 166: Is this {D: okay what I'm saying} Interviewer: No ma'am that's fine. Uh if uh if somebody asks you how he's getting along you might say well it seems like that uh that he won't pull through or it seems as though or seems as if how would you say that? 166: Drag around I reckon. Interviewer: Alright. 166: That's what I'm doing. Interviewer: {NW} 166: Feel good {X} sometimes then again I don't feel like nothing. Interviewer: Sure. And if uh if someone invites you to go somewhere and uh you want uh you say well if they invite you to go by yourself but uh you uh you want someone to go with you you might say well I won't to go unless she goes or uh without she goes how would you say that? I won't go 166: Unless she goes. Interviewer: Alright. And uh if uh one of the children one of your grandchildren were supposed to help you with the dishes and um and uh if she didn't help you maybe the child went off to play you might say oh she went off playing 166: She ought to help me with dishes Interviewer: Okay would you say in instead of 166: Playing Interviewer: Okay how would you say that. She went off playing instead of 166: Helping me. Interviewer: Okay say the whole thing for me. 166: #1 She went off to play # Interviewer: #2 She went off # Mm. 166: Instead of helping me. Interviewer: Okay. And if a man is funny and you like him you might say uh he's clever he says funny things 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 You might say I like him. # 166: Say he's friendly. Interviewer: Okay and uh what are what's the name of the biggest church. Which is the biggest church here in town. 166: Well it {X} goes in between the First Baptist and the First Methodist. But I believe it's the first Methodist Interviewer: Okay. And if two people become members of the church you'd say well Sunday they 166: Join the church. Interviewer: And uh in church you pray to 166: God. Interviewer: And uh if uh if you heard somebody who talked ugly uh used god's name uh how how would they be likely to say it uh if you heard somebody using it saying you know like you are praying might use it uh in in an uglier way 166: I say that {D: get ugly} Interviewer: Alright okay. 166: #1 {D: And there's that preachers} # Interviewer: #2 And # 166: You know a lot of time you talk about preachers. And they're not right. Interviewer: Mm. 166: {X} The same thing the preacher brings up they don't want to {D: hear it, they don't like it} Interviewer: Sure. Okay and you say uh well I enjoy being in church the preacher uh preached a 166: Good sermon. Interviewer: And {X} might say uh I uh I go to church to hear the sermon another one say well I don't care anything about the sermon I go to hear the 166: Music. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say if you really enjoyed it you might say oh that music is 166: So good. Interviewer: Okay and uh uh it was just beaut- 166: Beautiful. Interviewer: Okay and uh if you had uh say you were going to church and somebody came in and interrupted you and then you hurry on out and you say well I've got to really hurry church will be over 166: Be over before I get there. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and uh the opposite of God is called #1 the # 166: #2 Devil. # Interviewer: How's that? 166: Devil. Interviewer: And uh what are some of the things that people used to talk about they were frightened of that were not real you know uh they might see at night around a graveyard or old house. What'd they say I don't want to go around there there might be some 166: What do you call those? Anyway I know we had niggers on the {D: right porch} getting scared of the light in the cemetery next to us. Scared I'd say. Interviewer: Sure and what are the things that they're scared of what are they called? 166: Ghosts. Interviewer: Okay. Any other word you remember for ghost they that might've said? 166: No I don't. Interviewer: Okay. And if a house is supposed to have ghosts in it you say don't go near that it's a 166: Ghosted house. Interviewer: Okay or did you ever hear haunted or haunted. 166: haunted Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: Okay and uh if if um if you tell somebody that the weather's changing and it's getting say a little bit cold you might say better put a sweater on it's getting 166: Getting cold. Interviewer: Okay it's getting uh uh a little bit uh 166: Chilly. Interviewer: Alright rather would you say rather. Rather chilly would you ever say getting rather chilly? Or a little bit chilly? 166: Little little bit chilly. Interviewer: Okay and if um if someone uh wants you to go and you say well uh but you have a choice you say well thank you I'd 166: Can't go Interviewer: Alright would you ever say would you feel like saying I'd rather not go? 166: No I never have said that to anybody I don't believe. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 166: #1 I just say I can't go # Interviewer: #2 you don't use your # Okay. uh would you uh 166: like to go Interviewer: Okay 166: But I can't Interviewer: Alright but do you ever hear anybody say uh I'd rather I'd rather not around here 166: Rather not Interviewer: Oh how's that 166: Rather not. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if uh a friend comes in and you haven't seen them for a long time what do you say to 'em how would you tell 'em about about feeling about seeing them. You might say 166: Glad to see you. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and you were wanting to say it even more than just I'm glad to see you just 166: Mm-hmm generally hug most of 'em. Interviewer: Okay a hug. Might say I'm I'm awfully 166: #1 Glad to see ya. # Interviewer: #2 glad. # Or I'm very Would you ever say I'm right proud to see you? 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Proud. # 166: I always say I'm glad to see ya. Interviewer: You ever hear anybody say I'm proud to see you. 166: Yeah. Interviewer: They say that around here. 166: Proud to see you. Interviewer: Okay. And if a man out in the country owns say four or five hundred acres of land how would you uh say he owns uh how much land would that be if you were telling 166: #1 Five hundred # Interviewer: #2 somebody. # Okay but if you're not if you don't know exactly but you went to tell him it's a whole lot how would you say that? He owns a 166: Lot of land. Interviewer: Okay. Uh what about you ever hear anybody say your right smart of land. 166: Yeah right smart of land. Interviewer: #1 Yeah they say that # 166: #2 {D: that's wild land} # Interviewer: okay and uh if somebody asks you something and uh uh you want to say you're more emphatic than just to say yes you might say well 166: no. Interviewer: Uh if you want to mean yes indeed you'd say why certainly why of course 166: Of course I Interviewer: Okay Uh if somebody asks you if uh if you could uh bake a certain cake uh you would say probably why 166: No I can't Interviewer: Well {NW} if you could 166: {X} {D: thirty years.} Interviewer: Oh really alright well let's say if you could cook some vegetables in a certain way then you might say well I 166: Cook them. Interviewer: Okay I sure or I sure can. No just 166: yeah I can cook vegetables. Interviewer: Okay you sure 166: #1 I'm sure # Interviewer: #2 that # 166: I can cook vegetables. Interviewer: Okay. 166: That's about all I don't. Ever since Stewart left and nobody but me and Adam passed away I don't ever cook nothing {X} My daughter keeps me {X} Interviewer: Sure. 166: She brought me {X} Saturday night to do me all this week. Interviewer: Yes. 166: Whole week {X} Interviewer: {NW} 166: {D: Corn stuff} Cake and everything else so I don't have to cook nothing Interviewer: #1 That's good. # 166: #2 It's all her. # Interviewer: That's good. 166: She does it every time she comes. She knows I'm not going to cook. I hate it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And uh if someone disliked to go somewhere very much you might say well he dreaded the place he would you be likely to say he purely dreaded it or he just dreaded it or 166: I just say he purely dread it. Interviewer: Would you say pure okay and if it's a little bit it was not just a little bit cold it was extremely cold you might say oh this morning it was 166: Cold. Interviewer: Okay but little more than that 166: #1 Hot # Interviewer: #2 it was # 166: Hot or cold. Interviewer: uh well it's cold it's bad but it's just worse than cold it's just freezing how would you say 166: Freezing. Interviewer: Okay uh would you say real cold? 166: #1 Yeah real cold. # Interviewer: #2 Oh okay. # And uh oh if you're surprised about something you might say oh 166: I'm surprised at that. Interviewer: okay do you ever say land sakes or for goodness 166: #1 For goodness sake. # Interviewer: #2 sakes # 166: Yeah I say that. Interviewer: Okay. And if you do something that you're a little bit annoyed with yourself about doing would you say oh 166: I don't know whether to do it or not. Interviewer: Okay. Do you ever say shucks? 166: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 Shucks. # 166: #2 Shucks. # Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 Uh-huh # Interviewer: And if something uh shocking is surprising somebody says that you did you might why the very I 166: Idea. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh and uh if you see somebody that you haven't seen for a few days and you want to ask 'em about their health how would you say that? 166: How you get along? Interviewer: Okay. And if it's a stranger when you're introduced to them if somebody says ah Miss {B} this is Mrs. Jones how would you {X} 166: Glad to meet you. Interviewer: Okay. And if you've enjoyed somebody's visit when they're getting ready to leave you would say come 166: Come back. Interviewer: And uh at uh bout uh what do you say to somebody when you meet them on the around Christmas you might say You meet somebody on the twenty-fifth of December you might say Merry 166: Merry Christmas. Interviewer: And 166: #1 That's the day # Interviewer: #2 uh # 166: my sister died. Interviewer: Is that right. 166: #1 Can't say that # Interviewer: #2 And on the first. # 166: then. Interviewer: That's right. Uh what would you say on the first day of January. 166: New Year. Interviewer: Okay {D: would you} say Hap- 166: Happy New Year. Interviewer: And if uh if somebody does something for you and you wanna say thank you uh and you 166: Sure appreciate it. Interviewer: Okay. I much You ever say much uh Much obliged. 166: Much obliged. Interviewer: #1 Much obliged. # 166: #2 and thank you. # Interviewer: Okay. And if you're not sure whether you'll have time to do something you might say well I 166: in a hurry. Interviewer: Okay but I believe that I'll I'll have time you want to tell me that you think you can do it. You might say I think I'll 166: Do it. Interviewer: Okay. That you'll I'll have time. Would you be more likely to say I think I will, I guess I will, or I reckon I will? 166: I guess I will. {X} Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you have to go downtown to buy some things you'd say I have to go downtown to 166: Get my groceries. Interviewer: okay to do some. 166: Trading, shopping. Interviewer: Okay you use both trading and shopping. 166: Trading or shopping either one I think would do wouldn't it. Interviewer: Sure which one do you reckon you'd be most likely to say. 166: I'd say get groceries. Interviewer: Okay and if you buy make a purchase at a store and the storekeeper took a piece of paper you'd say he uh 166: folded it up. Interviewer: Okay or he wrap 166: wrapped it up. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 166: #2 or put it in a sack. # Interviewer: And when I got home I 'un- 166: Undone it. Interviewer: Okay And uh uh or unwrapped it. 166: Unwrapped it. Interviewer: Okay. And if you if a man has a store and he has to sell something for less than he paid for it he would say why I had to sell it at 166: Cost Interviewer: Okay or if it were than cost he might say I had to. He didn't even get the money that he put in it I had to sell that at a 166: {D: loss} Interviewer: Okay and if you uh admire something but you really don't have enough money to buy it. You might say well I like it but it. 166: Too high. Interviewer: Okay or it co- 166: What Interviewer: It costs too much. 166: Costs too much. Interviewer: And uh on the first of the month the uh the electricity bill is 166: Yeah that's coming in today I reckon. Interviewer: Yes and what generally say well on the tenth it's d- 166: Due. Interviewer: Okay and if you belong to a club you have to pay the 166: Due dues Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if you don't have much money you may go to a bank and say I need to 166: {D: borrow} borrow some money. Interviewer: And if the banker is is refusing a loan to someone he might say well now I would be glad to lend it to you but right now money is real 166: Scarce. Interviewer: And uh if somebody were going to go swimming you might say well he ran and 166: Dived. Interviewer: and uh uh if you were sitting watching them you might say well this afternoon thirty people have 166: Been swimming. Interviewer: Mm-hmm have jumped into #1 the water. # 166: #2 Dived. # Interviewer: Okay. and uh do you know what the kids would call it if they uh dive in and hit the water flat 166: No I don't know that. Interviewer: Have you ever heard it called uh heard it called uh uh belly flop 166: #1 No I never # Interviewer: #2 or # 166: have heard Interviewer: #1 Okay okay. # 166: #2 that. # Interviewer: Uh and if children put their heads down and kick their feet up and go over his head you say he turns a 166: Turn over. Interviewer: Okay. What about a somersault or somerset. 166: Somerset they used to call it. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Turned a somerset. Interviewer: Okay and if somebody wants to go across the river he he dived in and then he 166: Swims across. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say yesterday he Yesterday he across the river. 166: Swimmed across the river. Interviewer: Okay how's that. 166: Swimmed. Interviewer: Alright. And uh you might say well uh the children like to swim in the big creek but I have never 166: Been in it. Interviewer: Okay or never s- 166: Never wanted them to. Interviewer: Okay or I've never s- there 166: I never have swammed at all Interviewer: Okay And uh if do you remember way back a long time ago maybe when uh maybe people had bought their groceries a lot on credit and then at the end of the year they'd pay their bill. Do you ever remember a store keeper giving them any kind of little present. 166: Yes I do. Interviewer: #1 What what would they # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: call it? Do they have a word for that? 166: Well they give out I know my sister they give her ham, big store that she traded at #1 every year. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh uh-huh. # Uh do they just say 166: Just buying regular groceries. Now I don't think they do it but just specials. Interviewer: #1 Sure. Sure. # 166: #2 {D: I have heard that} # Interviewer: Well they don't have a word they use you just say a bonus or just a little present. 166: Yeah bonus. Interviewer: Okay and if someone's uh swimming and didn't get out you might say well he got in the water. He got 166: Drowned. Interviewer: Okay. and uh uh 166: We have {D: had that happen around here} Interviewer: Is that right. A lot of people have 166: Drowned. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what does a baby do before it can walk it 166: Crawl. Interviewer: And uh if you if the child see something up in a tree and he wanted to get it he would have to go up in the tree. 166: {D: cut that tree down} Interviewer: Okay you say well you'll have to 166: Put it down. Interviewer: Okay Um and if there was a a mountain and uh 166: Like Stone Mountain Interviewer: Right and a lot of people go up there and do what Cl- 166: They go up to the top of it but I don't know what they do. Interviewer: Well uh i- i- in going up there how do they #1 say that # 166: #2 Have to climb # Used to have to climb up. Interviewer: Okay and uh you might say well last year several people 166: Got killed. Interviewer: Uh-huh and if um 166: You getting tired {X} Interviewer: No this is it's fine it's good because of where we have the microphone. I'm very comfortable. Uh if you were telling somebody uh last week my neighbor went up to Stone Mountain and 166: Went up to the top. Interviewer: Or cl- Cli- 166: {X} Interviewer: Climbed. 166: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Would you say it. 166: Uh climbed it. Interviewer: Climbed it. 166: Climb climbed it. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Climbed up there. Interviewer: But I've never in my whole life I've never cli- 166: Done it. Yes I have Interviewer: Yes? 166: Yes I have. Interviewer: Stone Mountain? 166: Stone Mountain. Interviewer: Is that right. 166: {NW} We started at the bottom and went up to top. Bunch of us. Interviewer: Sure. 166: {X} someone toted the baby I think my husband tote the baby up there Right to the edge and looked down. Interviewer: Yeah. I've never been up there. I've driven past it several times 166: It changed it's been years and years of changing I don't know anything about it now but I sure we sure used to climb it. It was a bad climb too. Interviewer: I'm sure. 166: We was determined to do it. Interviewer: {NW} Okay and if there's a low hedge or something and a man wants to hide behind it how would you describe the way he does to get #1 down there. # 166: #2 Squat down. # Interviewer: How? 166: Squat #1 down. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # And uh if uh someone goes up to the altar at the church and gets on her knees you say she 166: Joining {X} Interviewer: #1 Yeah but how # 166: #2 {X} # Interviewer: how would you describe just going down on her knees you's say she went up to the altar and bowed. 166: Mm what do you call that I know Interviewer: #1 To kneel.No. # 166: #2 they don't do it at our church and # Interviewer: #1 To kneel. # 166: #2 What they do. # Interviewer: #1 Okay and # 166: #2 Kneel uh-huh. # Interviewer: if you say she did that you'd say she went up to the altar and 166: Kneeled down. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And uh if you're tired you might say I'm going over to in bed. I'm going to 166: Going to bed. Interviewer: Okay but to how would you say to 166: Going to rest. Interviewer: Okay to lie down. I'm going up to lay down in bed. 166: Lie down and rest a while. Interviewer: Okay. 166: And I sure have that to do. Interviewer: Yes. Well if somebody uh is just a little bit lazy you might say well he 166: #1 So lazy. # Interviewer: #2 in bed # Okay all morning he 166: Don't do nothing. Interviewer: Okay he he stayed in bed all morning he what 166: {D: got that right here under me} Interviewer: {NW} 166: Woman down here {D: well a lady} her and her husband separated and her boy don't do a thing well {X} he shot himself one time in the bed been sorry ever since. Just just won't do nothing she's a widow {X} her and her husband separated so she {D: have to tie him} Interviewer: Okay and talking about him you'd say he just laid in bed or 166: Just lay in bed. Interviewer: How 166: Lies in the bed. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you're talking about something about that while you were asleep it seemed like you saw you might say this is what I 166: Dreamed. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say I can't always remember what I 166: Said. Interviewer: Okay or 166: What I dreamed. Interviewer: Uh-huh and if uh you say well I dreamed so and so and then all of a sudden I 166: Woke up. Interviewer: And if you bring your foot down heavy on the floor like this you say you do what 166: {D: Got up} Interviewer: Yeah but if you you know if you do this with your foot or somebody does like that you say what is that gesture. You say well he his foot on the floor. He 166: Heavy. Interviewer: Okay would you say he's stomped or he stamped or what 166: {NW} Stomped I'd say. Interviewer: Okay and if uh if a man say meets a girl at a dance and he wants to go home with her he might say may I 166: Go take you home. Interviewer: Okay. And uh do they ever say carry you home around here? 166: Yeah they say I care {X} I'll carry you home I'll take you home. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 166: Take you home though is most #1 popular. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 166: Course I don't. I'm not out. {NW} Interviewer: Sure. 166: I just know what they're young people says so. Interviewer: Okay and if you've got uh a heavy bag in {X} yard you want to get it up to the porch you got to 166: Drag it up Interviewer: Okay and uh if you had a uh one car that wouldn't run and they put a rope on it and put it behind another car you say they're going to 166: Drag it. Interviewer: Or 166: Pull it. Interviewer: Okay and if your car is stuck in the mud or the snow you might ask somebody in his car behind you to give you a 166: Pull it out. Interviewer: Okay if he's behind you ask if you 166: Push. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you're carrying a very heavy distance a long way you might say I carried it or I you said it the other day your husband you said just a few minutes ago your husband would tote the child. 166: Mm-hmm Interviewer: You would say both to carry something and to tote it 166: Say what? Interviewer: Do you {NW} likely to say he carried it or he toted it either one. 166: I say either one of 'em. Toted or carried it. Interviewer: #1 Okay you hear both of 'em around here? # 166: #2 One either one. # #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 People. # And if somebody comes in the house and start playing around here and you're afraid something's going to get broken you might say don't you 166: Don't do that. Interviewer: Okay or don't 166: Don't touch it. Interviewer: Okay 166: #1 Cause I've got that # Interviewer: #2 And # 166: right here with these pictures. Interviewer: I'm sure so that must be very enticing. 166: I got child {D: back here she loves me and everything} she comes over here and she {D: gets 'em} she don't tear 'em up but I'm I just stay uneasy you know #1 that she will. # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # Sure. Okay if you need a hammer you would say to me go 166: Get the hammer. Interviewer: Okay uh uh and if children are playing a game and there's a tree that they go back to all the time where they're safe what do they call that? the in in children's games or in basketball they throw a ball through the 166: It's called hit the tree. Interviewer: Uh-huh or uh what about in tag game. If children are playing tag they run back to 166: The place. Interviewer: Where they're safe. 166: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Did that called that uh base or 166: #1 Yeah base. # Interviewer: #2 goal. # Okay. 166: Ball game. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Going back to the base Interviewer: Uh when you were little what other kinds of outdoor games did you play, do you remember? 166: When I was growing up? {D: Can can can do} and dropping the handkerchief. Things like that. Interviewer: What was the first one? 166: {D: Can can can do} I don't know how you spell it but we used to play it all the time. Interviewer: And what was that? 166: Dropping the handkerchief too Interviewer: #1 And how did you play that first one # 166: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Can can can 166: {D: Can can can do} Interviewer: How'd you play it? What was that 166: We dropped drops drop a handkerchief you know and go round and round and drop it round somebody else and we'd run you know Interviewer: Yeah 166: and let that next one pick it up Interviewer: #1 Sure. # 166: #2 We get back around # Interviewer: Okay. And if you throw a ball you ask somebody to 166: Catch it. Interviewer: You'd say I threw him the ball and he 166: Caught it Interviewer: And uh you might say I've been fishing for trout but I haven't 166: Caught anything Interviewer: And uh if you say to somebody let's meet in town if I get there first I'll 166: Save you a place. Interviewer: Okay. Or I'll wait 166: Wait for you Interviewer: And if you uh if somebody works for you maybe does something in the yard he's really lazy and you decide well you're just not going to have him and anymore you discharge him. He might come back to you and say well me give another 166: {D: Dime} Interviewer: Okay and if he wants to work again he might say well I'll do better. Give me another 166: Raise Interviewer: Okay or just just another chance. 166: Chance yes chance you're right. Interviewer: Okay and if a man is in a good mood if he's very happy you might say he's really in a good 166: In a good spirit. Interviewer: Okay. Uh do you ever use humor or humor. 166: #1 In a good humor {C: stumbles over last word} # Interviewer: #2 He's in a # 166: Humor. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 He's in a good humor. # I don't how you spell it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you have a hired man who just keeps loping all the time and you decide you're just not going to keep him anymore you might tell a friend well I think I'm going to 166: Let him go. Interviewer: Okay. Uh do you ever say get to rid of him 166: Get rid of him. Interviewer: Okay. Um And if you're in school and somebody took your pencil you might say who 166: Got it. Interviewer: Okay uh have you got another word for to to to take it like that to who swiped it or who 166: You can say who swiped it. Interviewer: Okay And uh and if you're recalling something you say oh I'd forgotten about that but now I 166: Call. Interviewer: How what. 166: Call. Now I call. Interviewer: Okay and uh if you're you're uh talking about something that happened a long time ago with someone you might they're recalling a thing might say well you must have a better memory than I do because I sure don't 166: I don't remember it. Interviewer: Right. And uh if you uh have a friend that you keep in touch with by mail you might say well just yesterday I have 166: Letter Interviewer: Okay and uh uh I'm going to 166: Answer it Interviewer: Okay I'm going to write I'm going to Uh Yesterday he wrote he 166: Wrote to me Interviewer: And tomorrow I'm going to 166: Answer it Interviewer: Okay or uh 166: Write back. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you might say well every week I have her letter 166: Her letter Interviewer: Okay and you send one to her 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 You say I have # 166: I Interviewer: I have 166: {D: pester to} answer it. Interviewer: Okay every week I 166: {X} Interviewer: {NW} 166: My daughter's every week and they give me every week so. Interviewer: Well that's good. 166: I've got to answer it. I have certain times to write. Interviewer: Sure. Uh and if you write a letter then you expect to get an 166: another one. Interviewer: Okay an answer. 166: Answer. Interviewer: Uh and all the you put the letter in the envelope and then you take your pen and put the #1 name # 166: #2 address it. # Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 put a stamp on it. # Interviewer: And uh if you don't know somebody's street and city you might say well now do you know what his is his uh 166: What was the question? Interviewer: Uh if you wanna write to someone but you don't know #1 the street # 166: #2 Address. # Interviewer: Okay. And if little boy's learn to whistle maybe you didn't know he could do this you might say well who 166: Who learned you that. Interviewer: Okay 166: Taught you that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh if you're getting ready to go say you're going to visit uh uh your daughter you might say well right now we're 166: #1 Getting ready. # Interviewer: #2 next week # 166: #1 Packing # Interviewer: #2 Okay # Okay And uh what do children call another child who always goes and tells 166: Tattle-tale. Interviewer: And if you want a bouquet of flowers for the dinner table you'd go out in the garden #1 and # 166: #2 pick 'em # Interviewer: How's that? 166: Pick 'em. Interviewer: And uh something that a child would play with is a 166: Ball. Interviewer: Okay or just different kinds of 'em go get a if not just a ball it might be a game or a doll or anything. If he's bothering you you wanna say go on and play with your 166: Doll. Interviewer: Okay. Or your toys. 166: Yeah. Interviewer: You ever say play pretty. For toys. No? 166: What? Interviewer: Play pretty. 166: Yeah go play with your play pretty. Interviewer: Okay. Um and if something happened that you expected or that you were afraid was going to happen you might say I was gonna happen 166: #1 I knew it was gonna happen # Interviewer: #2 I just # Okay and uh if uh uh you might say oh that's the book that you 166: Keep pictures in. Interviewer: Uh-huh and if someone gives one to you might say well that's the book that she 166: Gave me Interviewer: And uh then if you're going to hand it back to her you say here I'll {NW} 166: Keep it Interviewer: Alright but you're gonna give it to her. You say I'll give it 166: Give it back to me. Interviewer: Okay uh and then talking about might say well you have so many books. You have 166: A lot of books. Interviewer: Give Would you say 166: #1 give # Interviewer: #2 give # 166: give a lot of books. Interviewer: Okay and uh if uh you pick up your umbrella and uh take it with you and then you say well I'm really glad I brought this umbrella because we haven't gone half a block when it 166: Goes to raining. Interviewer: Okay uh would you say uh uh begins to rain. 166: Begins to rain. Interviewer: okay. 166: You say that. Interviewer: And we were we went we had just gone downtown and it began 166: Poured. Interviewer: Okay. It started to rain. You'd say 166: Hard. Interviewer: Uh it began or 166: Wouldn't think say began. Interviewer: Okay. And everyday when we go downtown it seems like it 166: You have a parasol. Interviewer: Okay and if you're going to see a program you might ask somebody what time does the show 166: Comes on. Interviewer: Okay. And the usher might tell you that well it ten fifteen minutes ago it's already 166: Started. Interviewer: Okay. Uh and uh if you're hurrying around somebody says why are you out of breath and you might say well I was feeling good and I all the way home I didn't walk you went faster than that I 166: Mm-hmm. Walk fast. Interviewer: Well more than that just this way. 166: In a whirly burly I'd call it Interviewer: Okay. And if children are out playing they go hurrying around the house you might say look-y look at the children 166: Playing. Interviewer: And run 166: Run. Interviewer: Okay and uh then you might say uh well everyday those children come past here they have r- 166: They run. Interviewer: Everyday and yesterday they a mile. 166: {D: Yeah} They race bicycles or ride bicycles when they go by here now. Interviewer: That's right okay but if they weren't on a bicycle you might say well they. If somebody says where are the children you might say oh they r- up #1 the street. # 166: #2 Running up the street. # Interviewer: How. 166: Running up the street. Interviewer: Okay and yesterday they 166: #1 Played up the street. # Interviewer: #2 up the street. # 166: #1 Played # Interviewer: #2 Use that same word run # Yesterday they r- 166: Ran. Interviewer: Okay they ran up the street. If you didn't know where a man was born you might ask somebody and say where does he 166: Live. Interviewer: Okay and if you wanna find out where he was born. He's not from around here is he, where did he 166: {D: Years.} Interviewer: Come come from would you say? You want to know where 166: Yeah wonder wonder where he come from Interviewer: Okay And if you wanna if wanna if you say well uh he got here on the train last night uh he 166: He got left. Interviewer: Okay and uh uh someone says when did come you would say well she Sunday she 166: She come Saturday night. Interviewer: Okay and if you're talking about uh how often she comes you might say well she has every Sunday for ever she 166: Comes by once a week or once a month or once every two months Interviewer: #1 Okay # 166: #2 sometime. # Interviewer: {NW} 166: {D: I'm} so far away my closest one in Atlanta she's one down here the other day. Interviewer: Okay. 166: {D: Lee} come bout every two months. Interviewer: Uh-huh {NW} And uh if you say if someone says when did you see your neighbor across the street you might say oh I 166: Just saw 'em. Interviewer: Okay and I have every morning I have s- 166: I've seen 'em. Interviewer: Okay 166: Don't now though because all them in the hospital. Interviewer: Oh yeah. That's something. 166: Two of 'em gonna be operated on this moment. Man and his wife both of 'em same time. Interviewer: And if the you uh if you wanna tell somebody now don't go by that road the highway department's got their machines in there and the road's all 166: Rough. Interviewer: #1 okay. # 166: #2 Tore up. # Interviewer: If you give somebody a bracelet and you want them to to you know wanna see how it looks on 'em you might say why don't you 166: Fix it. Interviewer: Uh-huh but 166: Fix it. Put it on. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh if you're asking uh uh if you're able to do something you'd say well can you 166: Do that. Interviewer: And you might say well sure I all my life. 166: All my life. Interviewer: I've what? 166: I've done it all my life. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you're sitting with somebody and you weren't saying anything and he turns around and says what did you say you'd say well I didn't 166: {D: Like} I'm asking you I didn't say nothing. Interviewer: Okay and uh he might say oh I thought you said 166: {NW} so and so. Interviewer: Okay I thought you said some something. 166: Yeah. Interviewer: How's that? 166: Thought you said something. Interviewer: Okay and uh uh you might if somebody tells you something that just really is scandalous then you might say oh I've never heard of 166: #1 That. # Interviewer: #2 That. # I've never heard 166: Heard of that. Interviewer: Okay. Uh 166: {X} #1 {D: can't stand 'em} # Interviewer: #2 Okay # If uh if uh if you if somebody asks you how long have you lived in Georgia you might say why I 166: All my life. Interviewer: I've what? 166: All my life. Interviewer: I've li- 166: Was borned in Macon. Interviewer: Okay and I've lived here uh always? 166: Uh-huh come here when I was a baby. Interviewer: Mm-k lived here all 166: All my life. Interviewer: Always say always. 166: Always. Interviewer: Okay and uh you might say well uh talking about horses I got thrown once and I've been scared of horses ever 166: Since. Interviewer: And uh if somebody children were having a problem one of 'em might come around you and say he hurt me it wasn't an accident he did it 166: On purpose. Interviewer: Okay. and uh uh you might uh say well I don't really know about that you'd better 166: Watch out. Interviewer: Okay and and if somebody wants to to ask a question and you say well I don't really know about that you better 166: Ask her. Interviewer: Okay 166: Or somebody else. Interviewer: And so you uh you ask him and he says why you've 166: You seen it? Interviewer: You've a- ask how would you say if if you want to tell him he's asked you that question so many times 166: Several times. Interviewer: Yeah say you've asked say that for me you that 166: You've asked that question several times. Interviewer: Okay and talking about children again every time they get together they have trouble you might say every time they meet they 166: Gone fight. Interviewer: Okay and yesterday they 166: Had. Interviewer: they 166: fought. Interviewer: Okay. and uh those children ever since they small they were small they have 166: Fussed. Interviewer: Okay and 166: Fought. Interviewer: Okay and if someone injures someone else with a with a big knife you might say he 166: Cut him. Interviewer: Okay or if he just went {D: flashed him} 166: Punched him. Interviewer: Okay or s- 166: {X} Interviewer: Uh okay but would you say stabbed? 166: Yeah stabbed that's it. Interviewer: Okay and then if he took the right back out you'd say he 166: Pulled it out. Interviewer: Okay or uh uh if a child puts a there's a funny picture on the blackboard and the teacher might say now who 166: Done that. Interviewer: Okay or who 166: Who drew that. Interviewer: Okay. And if you have something like a piece of machinery up on a roof and you use a pulley and a rope to get it up there how would you say they do that? To hau- 166: Hauled it up there. Interviewer: Or hoist. 166: Hoist it up there. Interviewer: Do you ever use that, hoist? 166: #1 No I mean # Interviewer: #2 What's hoist # 166: No I haven't I don't know anything about it. Interviewer: Okay. Um there's just a few over that {X} Uh I need to have you uh Miss {B} say the numbers for me to begin with up to about fifteen. 166: What numbers? Interviewer: Just like you know 166: #1 One two # Interviewer: #2 Your clock. # 166: #1 One two three # Interviewer: #2 Yes # 166: four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen. Interviewer: Okay. And uh the number after nineteen is 166: Twenty. Interviewer: And after twenty-six is 166: twenty-seven. Interviewer: And two times ten is 166: Forty. #1 Two time ten is # Interviewer: #2 Oh uh # 166: Twenty Interviewer: Okay and three times nine 166: Three nine is twenty-seven. Interviewer: Okay and after uh twenty-nine is 166: twenty-seven twenty-eight Interviewer: #1 and then # 166: #2 twenty # twenty-eight Interviewer: And then after twenty-nine is 166: Thirty. Interviewer: And then after thirty-nine is 166: Forty. Interviewer: And the number after sixty-nine is 166: Seventy Interviewer: and after ninety-nine 166: Hundred. Interviewer: And after nine hundred and ninety-nine 166: Thousand. Interviewer: And after nine thousand and nine hundred and ninety-nine 166: Is a thousand. Interviewer: Okay and uh uh if you after the thousands there's um 166: Two thousand. Interviewer: Okay and after nine hundred thousand or something so you say there's a m- 166: Million. Interviewer: Okay and uh if you've got a line of people standing up and you say there's oh maybe ten or twelve of them the man the in the at the head of the line is the f- 166: What? Interviewer: Uh or you might say Sunday is the 166: {D: King} day. Interviewer: Okay and uh uh if you're 166: You getting tired {X} Interviewer: No I just around this is fine this way my voice doesn't sound so loud on that thing. I'm comfortable. Uh if you're talking about this line of people standing up there you might say well the one at the head of the line he's the 166: Head of it. Interviewer: Okay he's the f- #1 First # 166: #2 {X} # First. Interviewer: Okay and the one after him is the 166: second Interviewer: And then the 166: Third. fourth fifth sixth seventh eighth nine ten is that enough? Interviewer: Yes ma'am thank you. And if uh talking to somebody about how things happen maybe good or bad luck you might say well you feel like you get your good luck just a little bit at a time but your bad luck comes 166: Often. Interviewer: Okay and if you say uh last year talking about a farm you might say I got twenty bushels to the acre this year I got forty bushels to the acre. This year's crop was just 166: Fine. Interviewer: Just 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 uh # 166: {X} good. Interviewer: Right but it was uh was exactly double what it was 166: #1 Last year. # Interviewer: #2 before. # Yeah. Would you say twice as good twice? 166: Twice as good. Interviewer: Okay. And um the first month of the year is 166: January. Interviewer: And the next one 166: February. March April May June July August September October November December. Interviewer: Okay thank you and then the day after Monday is 166: Wash day. Interviewer: {NW} It's wash day. Okay and then uh would you just name the days of the weeks for me please. 166: Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday Interviewer: Okay and do you uh ever hear Sunday called anything besides Sunday 166: No I haven't but I know that some of the people put them in some of the Jews. They put Saturday for Sunday that's all I've ever heard. Interviewer: Right well what about in the bible sometimes they use the word uh Sabbath 166: #1 Sabbath. # Interviewer: #2 What's # What does that how does that mean? Just 166: S- Sunday's the Sabbath. Interviewer: Okay and if you meet somebody in the early part of the day you generally say to 'em well good 166: For you. Interviewer: Uh-huh you might just say hello you might say 166: Well hello. Interviewer: Okay or good good m- 166: Good news. Interviewer: Okay do you just good morning? 166: Yeah {NW} Interviewer: Uh how is it? 166: Good morning how you get along? Interviewer: Okay {NW} 166: #1 You always say hi now # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 166: something like that. they left the good morning off. Interviewer: Okay well if you say good morning uh up to about what time of day would you 166: #1 Twelve o'clock. # Interviewer: #2 change? # Okay and then after twelve o'clock you might say 166: Afternoon. Interviewer: Okay and uh if you're leaving people do you ever use good day? 166: Goodbye. Interviewer: Just goodbye. Uh 166: Hope to see ya. Interviewer: Okay do you ever say good day to somebody when you meet them? 166: No I don't Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 166: #2 I never do say that # Interviewer: #1 Never say it # 166: #2 {X} # {X} so I'm still {X} Interviewer: Sure. 166: Good morning and good evening. Interviewer: Okay and uh you you say good evening after twelve o'clock. 166: Yeah after twelve o'clock. Interviewer: What about the part of the day after supper if you see somebody you might say 166: Night. Interviewer: Okay. Well if you meet him would you say that or 166: I don't know what. Interviewer: Say goodnight when you're leaving? 166: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But not if you come in at night. You come somebody comes in after supper they say wouldn't say #1 goodnight. # 166: #2 Say night. # Interviewer: Okay. 166: {X} cuz I don't ever I just say come in. Interviewer: Okay. Um. uh if uh a man has to get up and start working just as the sun comes up you might say well he had to start to working 166: Early. Interviewer: Okay. At that certain time you'd say it was 166: Five o'clock Interviewer: #1 Mm k. # 166: #2 or six o'clock # Interviewer: Uh and uh uh this morning uh 166: {D: usually} slept late. Interviewer: Okay and speaking of the sun you might say well we started to work before 166: Sun up. Interviewer: And uh if somebody asks you what time did the sun rise this morning you might say the sun 166: At seven o'clock. Interviewer: Did what? 166: At seven o'clock. Interviewer: Yeah would you say it uh r- 166: Early. Interviewer: Okay it rose or it {D: riz at} seven o'clock. How would you say that the sun 166: Rise I believe. Interviewer: Okay uh we were out a little late this morning. When we started working the field the sun had already 166: Rose. Interviewer: Okay and you might say well I was out working I saw the sun 166: Rise that's what it is. Interviewer: Okay and if he worked until the sun went out of sight you would say 166: #1 worked till sundown # Interviewer: #2 well he # Okay and uh uh if uh today is uh is Tuesday yest- uh Monday was 166: A busy day. Interviewer: Okay and if you tell somebody well I didn't do that this morning I did it 166: Yesterday. Interviewer: Okay and uh if somebody came to see you on Sunday uh say this past Sunday. If he came um a week earlier you might say well he came here Sunday you know not not this past Sunday but the #1 Sunday before. # 166: #2 Last Sunday. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you ever say uh Sunday a week ago or a week ago Sunday 166: #1 yeah you say # Interviewer: #2 or s- # 166: week ago or Saturday ago. Interviewer: Saturday ago. 166: Either one will do. Won't it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Which one would you be more likely to say? 166: {D: My Jen} comes on Saturday night. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh 166: So I just say Sunday. Interviewer: Okay say I went to Church Sunday, but I didn't get to go Sunday 166: {X} Had to stay home with kids or {X} Interviewer: Yeah. Would you say Sunday is a week ago or Sunday week? 166: Sunday week. Interviewer: {D: Just like okay} Uh what about uh talking about uh next Sunday. He's going to leave not this next Sunday but 166: #1 Next # Interviewer: #2 a Sunday beyond that # How would you say that? 166: Next Sunday Interviewer: Mm-hmm. How would you say that? He's gonna leave 166: Next Sunday is what I would say. Interviewer: You would, would you ever say Sunday a week? 166: Yeah I say that too Interviewer: How would you say that for me. 166: Say Sunday week. Interviewer: Okay. And if somebody stayed uh with you came to visit and they stayed from the first of the month to the fifteenth you might say well he stayed about 166: Two weeks. Interviewer: Okay. Do you ever hear a fortnight used for two weeks? 166: What? Interviewer: Fortnight. No. 166: I never heard that. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if uh if today is Tuesday uh Wednesday will be 166: Thursday. Interviewer: Oh okay and you might say well I'm not going today but I'm going 166: Tomorrow. Interviewer: #1 And # 166: #2 Put it off # Interviewer: Oh huh and if you wanna know the time of day you might say oh 166: My clock's stopped Interviewer: Uh and ask 'em what the hour is you'd say what 166: What time is it Interviewer: Okay and what would he somebody pull out his watch out of his pocket to look at 166: Watch Interviewer: And it'd be made out of what maybe what metal? 166: Your pardon Interviewer: What would the watch be made out of maybe it's uh he's a got a real nice it's a made of a yellow metal. You'd say that's a real fine 166: Watch. Interviewer: Okay what's the metal that it's made out of? It's a what kind of watch a g- 166: Gold. Interviewer: Okay and uh if it's midway between seven o'clock and eight o'clock you would say it's how would you tell somebody when it's halfway between seven o'clock and #1 eight # 166: #2 thirty. # Interviewer: #1 You'd say what # 166: #2 Seven thirty # Interviewer: Okay and if it's ten forty-five how would you say what time it is. It's about 166: Quarter to seven. Interviewer: Okay. 166: Quarter to eight. Interviewer: Okay and if you've been doing something for a long time you might say oh I've been doing that for quite a 166: While. Interviewer: And uh you might say the farmers got a pretty good crop last year but they're not gonna get such a good one 166: This year. Interviewer: And if a child just had his third birthday you'd say well now he's 166: Going on four. Interviewer: And he's four 166: Going on four. Interviewer: Four what? 166: Years. Interviewer: Okay. Interviewer: uh if something happened um this is this is twenty nine 166: {NS} yep tomorrow's thursday last day Interviewer: Alright and something happened on this day last year you'd say well that happened exactly 166: same day Interviewer: okay uh to say last year you'd say it happened exactly 166: last year Interviewer: uh okay a year ago 166: uh-huh Interviewer: #1 you ever say that # 166: #2 yeah # Interviewer: #1 okay # 166: #2 course I say that # Interviewer: you look up in the sky uh the sky you might say I don't like the looks of those 166: stars Interviewer: okay and if its during the day and it looks like it might 166: #1 the clouds # Interviewer: #2 rain # Those 166: clouds Interviewer: okay but the sun is shining and there are no clouds you might say 166: #1 it a very beau- # Interviewer: #2 it's a # 166: beautiful day Interviewer: okay if its just the opposite of a pretty day how would you describe it's really 166: #1 its a bad day # Interviewer: #2 a # okay any other way you say or saying of 166: rainy day Interviewer: okay if uh its been lighter and then the clouds come and you expect rain you might say the weather is 166: changing Interviewer: okay and if it's been cloudy 166: it's always it's been cloudy this morning it's been kinda kinda cloudy all the morning Interviewer: #1 okay well you # 166: #2 can't focus # Interviewer: reckon the weathers gonna 166: rain Interviewer: okay the weather's gonna go stop looking cloudy you reckon it's gonna how would you say or hope it's gonna get pretty you think it's going to 166: clear up Interviewer: okay {NS} if it had been uh uh a real heavy rain how would you describe that to somebody it just 166: #1 its just been pouring # Interviewer: #2 like it's been pouring # 166: or poured down either one Interviewer: you ever heard them called anything like a gullywasher 166: yes they's gullywashers Interviewer: yeah 166: cause I I rarely call um gullywashers Interviewer: #1 okay have you ever heard # 166: #2 when it rains you know # Interviewer: #1 # 166: #2 # washes gullies in the hill Interviewer: yeah and uh would you say a cloud burst a regular cloud burst 166: cloud burst Interviewer: um {NS} what about a storm that had thunder and lightning in it 166: that was bad weather Interviewer: okay um what kind of a storm was it you'd say that was a regular 166: storm Interviewer: okay uh would you say a thunder storm or an electrical storm 166: electrical sometimes it's bad kinda lightning Interviewer: okay and if there was a lot of wind you might say the wind was 166: #1 sure blew # Interviewer: #2 very # 166: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # uh the wind what 166: blew Interviewer: okay and yesterday it the wind {NS} 166: didn't blow Interviewer: okay uh and then you might say that wind was very bad but it has even harder in the past it has 166: #1 has been harder # Interviewer: #2 okay its has # blown or blown 166: blowed Interviewer: blowed hard 166: okay Interviewer: and um if the wind is coming from that direction you'd say well the wind is 166: coming from the west Interviewer: and if it's coming that direction you'd say the wind is 166: coming from the north Interviewer: okay um and a wind halfway between south and west you'd call a s- 166: south south west Interviewer: okay is southwest where you 166: {X} Interviewer: okay 166: they're always we'll have a clash that's gonna come from southwest Interviewer: uh-huh #1 and what about # 166: #2 tornadoes # Interviewer: ma'am 166: tornadoes #1 from the south in there # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm from the south # 166: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # what about if it's halfway between the east and the north 166: well that's just regular weather Interviewer: okay and uh what would you call a wind that's blowing in from the west in the north its a 166: contain cold Interviewer: okay 166: if it's changed north its changed cold Interviewer: you say northwest wind or 166: #1 northwest # Interviewer: #2 northwestern # okay 166: northwest Interviewer: okay and uh if it's raining but not very hard just a few fine drops you'd say it's 166: dropping they been dropping Interviewer: #1 okay # 166: #2 the rain # Interviewer: it's just a steady 166: what Interviewer: just a steady 166: steady rain Interviewer: steady rain what about a drizzle 166: wha- well it is drizzle Interviewer: yeah uh sprinkle #1 you ever say # 166: #2 sprinkling its sprinkling rain # Interviewer: okay uh if it's not really raining but it's wet out it's just 166: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 166: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 166: {NW} {D: little norse} Interviewer: okay and if it's hard to see it's not raining but it's hard to see 166: #1 mm fog # Interviewer: #2 you know if you might # 166: mist Interviewer: okay um uh fog 166: yeah fog Interviewer: okay uh and if its if it s uh the fog is so bad you can't see through it you say oh it is very 166: bad Interviewer: uh 166: #1 dan used to driving in it too # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # {NS} uh if you go up in the mountains you might say well if you get up on top of it won't be so 166: bad Interviewer: or 166: won't be so bad Interviewer: okay or fog 166: huh Interviewer: #1 huh yes i think so # 166: #2 {X} # I was up on the mountains Interviewer: mm yeah 166: went up and down and down and around they said let's do that Interviewer: okay and if you don't have rain for weeks and weeks and weeks what do you call it you'd say we are having a 166: we sure need a rain Interviewer: uh-huh and what do you call that 166: the crops Interviewer: what do you call that time when there's no rain when you say that's a bad 166: season Interviewer: okay uh dry spell 166: dry spell Interviewer: drought drought 166: drought or drought maybe either one'd be Interviewer: how you say it 166: drought Interviewer: okay if the wind has been very gentle and then it's gradually getting stronger you'd say it's doing what it's 166: blowing Interviewer: its would you say it's picking up or breezing up or rising winds rising 166: winds rising Interviewer: okay and um if it's just the opposite and the wind has been blowing real hard but now it's not so bad 166: going up Interviewer: okay the wind is 166: swelling up Interviewer: okay and um all the morning in the fall when you first go outdoors its cold but it's not really disagree able its the kind of weather you might just enjoy being out in and you'd say well this morning is rather 166: cool Interviewer: okay uh any other ways of saying that air-ish or 166: #1 air-ish it be air-ish uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 brisk okay # 166: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 166: #1 # Interviewer: #2 {NS} # um it was cold enough to kill the tomatoes {NS} that your phone {NS} 166: see just a minute {X} Interviewer: here let's sit 166: took a blood pressure tablet before though right after breakfast just before so maybe I could hold Interviewer: {NW} 166: so you're nearly through Interviewer: yes ma'am um just a couple of other things um if you say it's cold enough to kill the tomatoes and flowers you might say last night we had a 166: #1 banes # Interviewer: #2 banes # 166: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # okay or uh it was not really a hard freeze we had a lite 166: lighter Interviewer: frost say frost 166: yeah had a lot of frost frost is what killed them Interviewer: uh-huh and if it was so cold last night that the water in the lake got hard you would say well last night the lake 166: #1 froze over # Interviewer: #2 or yet # huh 166: lake froze over Interviewer: okay and you might say if it gets much colder tonight you might the lake might 166: better get out of froze in Interviewer: right because they might 166: freeze Interviewer: okay {NS} and uh if you leave one out you think well maybe they'll be alright but the next morning you go out you already 166: froze Interviewer: okay and uh how uh how tall would you say this room is mrs{B} this room is about 166: I'm telling you the truth I don't know it's high Interviewer: yeah 166: I guess ninety inches these in here Interviewer: the drapes 166: red drapes Interviewer: uh-huh 166: {X} Interviewer: yeah well you might say this room is about nine what 166: nine feet foot Interviewer: okay how'd you say it 166: nine foot Interviewer: okay and um I need to ask you a couple of things that I didn't get on here do you tell me how much your mother went to school is it {B} 166: she didn't go very much cause she was involved in that war she was gone during the war Interviewer: and your father 166: my father my mother #1 was you talking about my mother # Interviewer: #2 yes ma'am # 166: she was in that first war ever had years years ago mm-hmm {NS} right now my pa was in the war Interviewer: is that right 166: and my grandfather got wounded in the war one of his legs was shot off both my granddaddies got hurt one of his legs was shot off the other was wounded somewhere but my husband never did have to go but he was fixing to have to go when it closed down cheering and everything Interviewer: world war one 166: mm-hmm he didn't he got out of there cause that when he was twenty-one years old just sitting in college Interviewer: sure but your father and both of your grandfathers were men in the war between the states 166: same states both of um Interviewer: well then uh 166: I never did see none of um but they was in both of um Interviewer: and uh {NS} 166: so mama was born right after he left for the service I think when um she was born he didn't see his child till he got back home and he said they say that then when they come from over there they'd have to throw the coals in the woods before they let um could come to the house and lie the stuff they had with um and now he was at grandma kathy's post in the woods dressed and such and everything he had on then had to get him out of his head Interviewer: sure that sounds scary well um now you uh you told me that uh your um that your father was a farmer and he had a meat market didn't he 166: yeah he had a meat market in leslie Interviewer: mm-hmm 166: he died when I was twelve years old so I tried to run the thing but I couldn't do the thing you had to cut the meat yourself I couldn't do it but the store next to me would come in and cut it Interviewer: and uh 166: I couldn't do it cause I was too young I couldn't do it and fish and things so when we move out in the country they had crocodile Interviewer: and uh had he uh uh grown up out near leslie too 166: no he was up uh up out of there that he was raised up there Interviewer: right 166: #1 sly fountain {D} # Interviewer: #2 do you have any family # do you have any family down by doraville or is he having his family up there now 166: most of that family has moved out but yeah I seen um but I was small I don't remember none of um cause they moved out and the place is all but walders is up there but scandinavia we don't know cause of first cousins so left it with lester then cause we had to use mules and buckets didn't visit much Interviewer: sure okay and uh but both of your parents are could read and write 166: yeah #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # and uh 166: now my husbands parents they could never uh do any like that neither one never did go to school a day {NS} cheapest thing I saw just as good as anybody saw never went to school Interviewer: mm-hmm alright and um oh now here's one I didn't get if your talking about a mountain a place that's up real high what would be the opposite of that a low place would be a it's up in the 166: #1 gully # Interviewer: #2 mountain # and down in the 166: do you call it gullies Interviewer: okay and what about a va- 166: a what Interviewer: valley 166: what Interviewer: valley 166: valley well valley will do Interviewer: okay and uh if uh if somebody asks you if you know how to drive a car then I'd say 166: I say no cause I don't Interviewer: {NW} and uh 166: be lying Interviewer: does your daughter 166: oh yeah all my daughters and sons too Interviewer: do what now 166: all my daughters drive cars my oldest daughter died she drank before she learned to drive called to just come in good Interviewer: and you might say well or I I had to go to the doctor and my daughter dro- me down there how'd you say 166: drove Interviewer: okay and uh {NS} alright uh