Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh it was on the south side so that it wouldn't be so cold
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 you know and # it was still good and tight and my daddy built shelves and uh {NW} it had a {D: that had} pieces across the board across to keep the jar from falling out. And you set the jars in that in that all the way around it was uh shelves you know
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
176:  #2 to put the # food on.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh she canned a lotta my mother canned a lotta lotta we had uh peaches and pears and uh apples and we had uh we had cherry trees and uh we had pecans, but they were not the big kind, they were this all the small kind.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And we had walnut trees and we'd crack walnuts at night and uh around the fire.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  and uh she'd put u- them up in jars and put 'em in this fruit house. #1 They'd #
Interviewer:  #2 They #
176:  use.
Interviewer:  that's just where they stored all the canned
176:  #1 yeah, uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 canned fruits? #
176:  That's where we put all
Interviewer:  Um did y'all plant all food then when you
176:  Well
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 they # they planted 'em I guess, my father and mother did uh my grea- my grandfather and grandmother lived at this house, you see, my father bought that old {X} We continued to live there.
Interviewer:  Um about how {D: old was the house?}
176:  Well I the house I imagine was about a hundred and fifty years old when we left it. #1 There the #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. #
176:  {X} my daddy built a new house
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
176:  #2 and uh #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  That was in nineteen and five.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {X} And uh well now um well about the house how many stories?
176:  Two stories.
Interviewer:  Two stories?
176:  It had two stories. It had it was a had a porch all the way around two sides.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And then we had uh uh had two had four rooms upstairs and there was uh four rooms downstairs.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And a big hall, open hall there was no doors it was just open. It went down to the living room, downstairs.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um we had a {D: potter} on one end uh one {D: but} room we used as a {D: potter} that was where the organ was and we had uh I believe there was a bed in there.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And some chairs, rockers and uh then upstairs, we had two bedrooms downstairs and and uh wa- upstairs was three bedrooms but they used one it my grandmother had the old spinning wheels and the looms and everything was in one room
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  and we didn't ever use that room, we just left all this uh stuff in there because she had several spinning wheels and uh those took up a lotta room.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And that's what she my grandmother used when she made all their clothes, she uh spun the thread and dyed it and uh
Interviewer:  {NW}
176:  made the made the even the pant. And she knitted the socks.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh my mother helped to do all that too when she was course she was young when she married and but she learnt she did all that too, she helped 'em with the and she knew how to run the spinning wheel {D: run the} little looms and everything to make the thread and and then to weave it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  She knew how to weave it.
Interviewer:  And ya'll had all this in this room?
176:  Yeah had it all in that room. Well now you see my daddy bought out the um my grandmother's estate and paid of all that and everything. We at that time before he bought that we were living in a- nother house that was on this s- on this estate
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 you see. #
176:  Well then when my daddy bought out all the heirs and he uh we moved into this big house.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Well I guess uh it um how many acres did your grand- did your grandparents have when they were
176:  Well they had about um four lots. Four lots of land. And then my daddy bought some more uh after he had paid this off while he bought more land and he owned about six lots of land when he died.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Um did uh now where where there any um now you said there were two stories.
176:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Did # did you have uh a story and a story? {X} like at the top?
176:  {D: we had}
Interviewer:  top of the house? Or
176:  You mean closets and all?
Interviewer:  well closets and things
176:  No there's no closets in the house.
Interviewer:  No?
176:  No, no closets.
Interviewer:  #1 And what #
176:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  would you do to keep the clothes in?
176:  Well we just uh um maybe my mother would um put a string up, a wire and hang the clothes on that and she'd cover it with a sheet to keep dust and all from getting on it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {D: Uh-huh.}
176:  And there there was no what we she hung 'em on was sticks. She'd take a stick and and put a wire on it and hang it up.
Interviewer:  {D: And no you hung it}
176:  There wasn't no clothes hangers, no I ne- I never had no clothes hangers at that time.
Interviewer:  {X} Um what about uh was there now the house, was it sitting on was there a foundation to the house? Or
176:  It was blocked with wood blocks, it was on wood blocks.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And the kitchen was built off from the house and it had {X} back end of the house, that was before they had stoves when that was built. And the kitchen was built off and then there was a walkway built and it was covered that you'd go from the house to the kitchen.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um and it went out on the porch and then this what it went from the porch out to the kitchen.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And at the end of the kitchen was a huge fireplace that they used to cook in before they got a stove.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um and in wo- in one room they uh my father was a my grandfather was a postmaster and at that time there was no post office any closer than Baxley.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um so he had a post office there in that house. It was a good-sized room and he had the pigeon holes place for put everybody's mail and they came there on horseback to get their mail.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um so that's what that room was used for. And then this big kitch- en was all{NS} {D: together} it was you had your uh table which was homemade
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  and your chairs was all homemade, made outta hickory.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And the ch- chair seats was made out of cow hides.
176:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh they tanned 'em and then s- stretched 'em while they were wet and uh tacked tacked 'em on there, nailed 'em on onto this uh wood and it was made outta hickory. And the
176:  And then the the men made the chairs and the tables and things like that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And then they built this big fireplace, had uh hooks that you hang the uh pots and things on to cook
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 in. #
Interviewer:  Um what you know and you uh you chopped your wood to do
176:  #1 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  yeah we had fireplaces and all we'd use wood had fireplace uh downstairs and in um and uh then I had a stack um chimney in one in between the bedrooms, they had a stack chimney.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um at the end of the house I had one big uh in the living room where what we called we called a {D: potter} at that time.
Interviewer:  {D: Okay}
176:  And it was just one single, and you had a fireplace upstairs and you had a fireplace downstairs.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Um now the part of this that the the- were y'all use that like a {X} {D: room} would stay 'em together even in the evenings? Or would that
176:  #1 No, no. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  No that was uh that was when they had special occasions
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 and #
176:  and when we had company uh come in and maybe somebody come in to spend the night and they'd sleep in
Interviewer:  #1 That's #
176:  #2 there. #
Interviewer:  what
176:  #1 they #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # {X}
176:  Yeah
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 like guest #
Interviewer:  room.
176:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh what what pieces of furniture {D: would you} {X}
176:  Well they were mostly just chairs that were made
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 you know # that was homemade. Uh they put would put uh cushions in the chairs and maybe a ruffle {NS} on that cushion and and the chair looks nice.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Um and you said there was an organ?
176:  Yeah organ yeah.
Interviewer:  {D: Okay well}
176:  It was one of those uh regular old-timey organs
Interviewer:  #1 {D: Did you} #
176:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  a pump that you had to
176:  Yeah you had to
Interviewer:  #1 pump #
176:  #2 pump it. #
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah yeah you had #
176:  #2 {X} # to pump the organ.
Interviewer:  Did you play it?
176:  {X} I learned how to play that on that by ear, I learned how to play.
Interviewer:  Who'd you learn from?
176:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Who did you learn it from?
176:  Just sitting down and trying it
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 just picking out tunes #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
176:  #2 {D: and fair} #
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Um let me see and uh what about windows in the house?
176:  Yeah we had they had w- shutters. They didn't have uh glass windows, they had shutters. All upstairs they had shutters and um downstairs we had s- uh they had some windows, in the parlor they had some windows. And I think, it seems to me like the best I remember there was two windows uh on the front of the house in the bedroom. {NS}
Interviewer:  Well in other words when you threw open the shutters there, it's just air?
176:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 I mean there's no #
176:  There was no, they you when you closed the shutter why you it was dark in there. And we used lamps in the light.
Interviewer:  Um let's see um well what about the uh
176:  And after my daddy bought it he he got he went to Savannah and he got um he bought some windows to put in upstairs so we would have light.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  He put some windows upstairs in there but now in the kitchen he never did put any windows. Just left the {NS} like it was.
Interviewer:  What kinda you said you used lanterns for to see? To see by.
176:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # they're
176:  #1 lamps. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Lamps.
176:  #1 Uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 Um # {X} was there electricity, did they have electricity?
176:  No. No electricity
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 {NW} # No. {NS}
Interviewer:  And what kind of lamps where they?
176:  Well uh they were uh lamps that you could take around you know. They were uh uh {D: God} I guess my daddy bought 'em in Savannah, I don't know. But most of 'em that we took around were had a handle to it and it was like a copper and you'd put your oil in that and you could take that handle and carry it and it had a globe on it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And you could take it and carry it from room to room, you know it's not easy broken.
Interviewer:  And uh you had fireplaces in each of the rooms to put it?
176:  No there wasn't a fireplace in one room but the other rooms there were all fireplaces.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Upstairs and downstairs.
Interviewer:  And you burned wood in 'em?
176:  Yes. Burned wood.
Interviewer:  Um and what about the plumbing that you
176:  #1 there's no #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # {X}
176:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  {NW} no plumbing.
Interviewer:  Plumbing.
176:  No plumbing
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 {D: had a} # {D: gave uh}
Interviewer:  Had a well?
176:  Had had a well. Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  And uh what about the bathrooms?
176:  Well it had you had you took a bath in the tub and uh then you used it mostly to {D: cope} they used was a a barrel sawed half in two?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  To do the wash in. And you saw the barrel half-way and then take one end each end of it was a tub.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And he'd put some kind of handle on it, thing like to cut out a place there that you run your hand in and tote it. Carry it.
Interviewer:  And uh {NS} let's see um {D: you said there was ports in the hall} for lamps?
176:  Right two sides.
Interviewer:  Two sides?
176:  Yeah on the the front and then down on the other side uh on the south side there was a porch all the way on there was two sides of the house that had a porch all the way around it. And then on the back uh there was a porch that went around the parlor, back part and then coming around and {D: in} where the uh hall came down and then went down on that side of the house.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Did you keep chairs or anything out on the porch?
176:  Yeah, we had chairs. Rockers.
Interviewer:  Ro-
176:  We had rockers on the porch, uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Um what about what kind of trees grow
176:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 flowers #
176:  #1 well at they #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  we had uh we had good many uh different things that uh spirea was a we had those and we had the uh uh dogwood it what we we it's not the dogwood tree, it was a bush. And they called it a dogwood, it had a flower like a dogwood, it had a yellow center.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Uh the petals on the flowers looked like dogwood but not like the dogwood we have now.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
176:  And we had sweet tree- sweet shrubs
Interviewer:  Yeah.
176:  and uh and they had uh tideberry trees.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh sycamore trees
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 for shade #
Interviewer:  Yeah.
176:  Um well did your um your uh your mother stay pretty much out of the the farm I mean
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 Well yeah we l- yeah after # my father died in nineteen fourteen why she uh went ahead with the farm and stayed on there for a long, long time after he passed away in nineteen fourteen.
Interviewer:  Because all the work to be done {X} even though you stayed around the house you you were busy
176:  #1 Yeah. Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Getting done with # all the work done.
176:  Getting all the work done.
Interviewer:  {X} um I don't think we've said about your mother how far {D: she'll be} did she go
176:  She went right about I imagine about the fifth grade.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. About the same as your
176:  #1 Uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 father? #
176:  Somewhere about that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh what about your grandparents? Do uh do you remember how far in school they went?
176:  No, I don't remember how far they went but my grandfather had a good education. eh- so far as uh you know long years ago they didn't have but two of the blue-back speller, blue-back speller and and then arithmetic. And he was real good, I mean he uh he learned a lots
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  whe- he he was very he had a good education so far as figuring and doing things
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 like # that, you know.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And my father did too.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  And uh that they learned it mostly themselves.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Not in school because they ain't learned to read and write and so they just naturally learned it. I guess through experience.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh now your your grandparents would where were they born? They must have been born around the
176:  Well I I can't I can't remember that now, when they were born but uh they were uh they were raised, I mean they came to this my grandfather came from {D: Crawford} County over here.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Uh on my father's side.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh he married my grandmother and uh she they home-steaded forty acres.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And we still have the old deed that he got {D: with the old} beeswax you know seal.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  That he got there at that time that's what they did, they would they would let you homestead forty acres.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um so they each one of them homesteaded forty acres a piece, which gave them eighty acres.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And then they just go went to work and um um accumulated enough at that time I think that you could buy a land for twenty-five cents an acre.
Interviewer:  Oh goodness. {NW}
176:  {NW}
Interviewer:  {NW}
176:  And uh so they when he died why they uh they owned uh a good bit of land
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  uh he was the father of uh {D: let's see} about fifteen children because he married twice. And uh he gave each one of his children a uh so much land, you know?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Uh maybe the boys he gave them a half a lot and the girls um not quite that much.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Maybe a hundred and fifty acres, something like that but he gave 'em all and gave 'em stock you know
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  to start off
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  I asked {X} {D: for it}
Interviewer:  Um you said that they both homesteaded forty acres to your grandmother and your grandfather?
176:  Yeah
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
176:  #2 where #
Interviewer:  she could come down and homestead
176:  #1 Yeah she could go yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  #1 yeah she could #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  homestead forty acres and he could homestead
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 forty. #
Interviewer:  Uh now how did the homesteading work after keep it for somebody you
176:  #1 No that was their's #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  when they they got back to the States somehow or another the State give the deed you see.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  They and they would let each one homestead forty acres.
Interviewer:  And you took the land and wor-
176:  #1 and #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  worked it, yeah. Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And lived on it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And they did and they {NS} uh uh {X} I mean a good bit of property.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh they were real thrifty and he was the first they were the first my grandfather owned the first cookstove in the {NS} {NS} {D: Harriton} Uh-huh.
176:  in that in that uh county.
Interviewer:  What what was
176:  He got it from Savannah.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What kinda {D: stove} could do?
176:  Well it i- it seemed like it was a home comfort {NS} best I remember it seems to me like that was the name of the stove, home comfort.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What was it made out of? It
176:  Iron.
Interviewer:  #1 {D: Uh-huh.} #
176:  #2 It was # iron.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  And what what did he burn in it? What would you put I mean what would you use to what made it {X}
176:  Wood.
Interviewer:  Wood
176:  #1 wood yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: from the inventory?} #
176:  yeah yeah we used wood.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  It was a wood stove.
Interviewer:  Because before that {X} at that time were you using the fireplace? I mean
176:  #1 Yeah yeah, they had to use cook in the #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  fireplace uh-huh. Yeah.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  And he was a justice of the peace uh he held court
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  and he had this post office and uh my grandmother was a midwife.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  At that time there was no doctors {X} at all and it was so far until she studied and an- learned to be a midwife.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
176:  And uh
Interviewer:  #1 I #
176:  #2 so #
Interviewer:  wonder what she had to {NS} to do to become one?
176:  I don't know what she had to do. I don't remember but but she uh she was, she was a midwife.
Interviewer:  {D: Uh-huh.}
176:  And she uh used she they made medicine.
Interviewer:  {NW}
176:  uh he and my grandfather uh her and my grandfather and grandmother.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And they'd go in the woods and get dig herbs and and make medicine {D: of their own fastening} {X}
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 and the first # one thing or another.
Interviewer:  This is for their own use?
176:  Their own use, yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh and {D: it say} they pretty much had to take care of their own? Their own
176:  #1 {D: Their yeah.} #
Interviewer:  #2 {{X} #
176:  #1 the how #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: yeah} # how far, how much trouble would it be to get a doctor?
176:  Oh well then then uh it was I expect about twenty miles or further to Baxley.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  To get a doctor if they if you could get one. Uh they didn't have but uh maybe one or two doc- one doctor I imagine was always there.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um he couldn't just couldn't get a doctor, you know a not an emergency.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um so they used they the doctors they you know had to doctor themselves and and she was a midwife and did did that kind of work.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Um # there there weren't any hospitals ar-
176:  #1 Oh no no, no hospitals at all no #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # {X} {D: How long did they take} {X}
176:  #1 Well #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # do you remember
176:  I can remember when the first hospital was built here.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Dr Jim Hall came here from Douglas.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh built a hospital right where the um um the uh Bank of Hazlehurst is now.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Got along in there {D: went back} {X} where the post office is.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Well he built a post off- I mean a
Interviewer:  Hospital?
176:  hospital there and uh that must've been in about nineteen and ten.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Nineteen and nine or nineteen ten that he built this hospital. And that's the first hospital I ever seen.
Interviewer:  What did they call it? {X}
176:  Jim Hall Hospital. {D: called it}
Interviewer:  and now it was already Jeff Davis County then?
176:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah, cuz Jeff #
176:  Jeff Davis was the mayor of the county in nineteen five.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And uh what about Hazlehurst? when was it named Hazle- when did when did there become a city in Ha- in Jeff Davis
176:  #1 Well #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  um when did Hazlehurst become a city?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  A town you mean.
Interviewer:  Town.
176:  Well I think they were it was already uh a small town here at that time. Uh they had put the railroads in here the Southern railroad
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh this feller Hazlehurst was the supervisor
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  of putting down the railroad.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 of # the track through here. And uh he stayed here and they {D: was} a hotel had been built before that came through.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And it was over there where the Big J supermarket is now, that's where the hotel was built.
Interviewer:  Right across from the um {D: depot}
176:  #1 Yeah, yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  just across from the depot.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And um so the men stayed there you know and this feller Hazlehurst stayed there at the hotel and um there was a good many, there was several stores here already before and it was uh I believe they called it Eight-and-a-half before, I don't know why they called it that but it was something uh about um lumber city to Hazlehurst.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  From the river to Hazlehurst, but anyway, they called it Eight-and-a-half I believe
Interviewer:  It it was just a a town or community?
176:  Yeah it was uh {D: but} of course there was farming, you know where the cemetery is there now. That was a field.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh uh there was uh fields all where people farmed right up round
Interviewer:  Yeah.
176:  and hogs and cows would come uptown
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
176:  #2 it was just #
176:  it was just uh {D: your} wood stores you
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 see # there was no brick buildings or anything at that time but after they got the railroad built why uh people began to come in and {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 and make have stores # and they built then some uh brick stores.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And but before that we had no {X} we didn't have uh courthouse or nothing like that yet.
Interviewer:  When was the courthouse built?
176:  That I don't remember.
Interviewer:  {X} I wonder how long
176:  #1 must've #
Interviewer:  #2 it may #
176:  been about nineteen uh nineteen and eight or -nine, somewhere along
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176:  #2 there #
176:  is when the courthouse was built.
Interviewer:  And the {D: big 'un} the original court-
176:  #1 That's the #
Interviewer:  #2 house #
176:  #1 yeah, that's #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. #
176:  the one that was built.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Um now did they just have you said to get some brick stores 'un- until then you had to go to other cities like to Savannah to get supplies? Or or were there some other
176:  #1 Well they #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: small} #
176:  #1 they got #
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176:  yeah, they got uh they uh after the uh some folks moved here and built up you know, it was just a little community you might say.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
176:  Uh but then different ones then went and the- and put up a store {X} um c- Mr Weathermay, Mr Top Weathermay he built him a store.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And built it out of brick.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh Mr Henson right where the {NS} right where the uh ice house is
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 down there #
176:  well he had a a store there what he sold it just uh and also Mr Weathermay did too. Uh they sold stuff by the barrel.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh- #
176:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  huh.
176:  Uh they wouldn't, they'd dish it out but if you wanted to buy a barrel of flour or a so is uh you know why you you bought it by the barrel. Now they had all the flour you got then and sugar was in barrels.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh but after it begin to get more people coming here you know and it would after they built the railroad then through
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  they did come more people to live in here and so uh they got to handling more stuff you
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 see # more uh food uh different kinds of stuff uh uh you see you could go to this place uh Mr Henson's over there and you could buy uh ready-to-wear men's clothes you
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 know? # Overalls
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
176:  #2 and #
176:  Brog- uh brogan shoes is what they called 'em then.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
176:  Uh work clothes, you know, he handled that in there with his groceries and and he handled all kinds of uh uh gear for mules you know
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  that they had to plow with
Interviewer:  #1 what did he #
176:  #2 he had to #
Interviewer:  call his store? Uh
176:  General Merchandise. General Merchandise. So you could get most anything at his store.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
176:  Used to have to buy.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {X} {X} um well let's see um {X} {X} um the type when when did the first post office then come in {X}
176:  Well that's that was after the county was it was it was made a county and um it was a very small post office and um it uh {NS} I'd say that that must've been around nineteen and ten.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {D: All this was} then all
176:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 this # happened right around after the
176:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 railroad #
176:  #1 Yeah yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 came through here. #
176:  after the railroad came through why they different things you know, they {X} put the post office in.
176:  And then later then they had people take mail.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  It was later after that that they had mail routes, you know
Interviewer:  #1 Uh- #
176:  #2 take #
Interviewer:  huh.
176:  Take the mail out.
Interviewer:  Did they have {X} what were they
176:  Travel in? Horse-and-buggy.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  Uh-huh. Yeah they traveled in horse-and-buggy.
Interviewer:  How long would it take a letter to get to from um {NS} say Atlanta? {X}
176:  Well it wouldn't take so long, um the routes was um they that's what they called 'em then you know
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
176:  #2 they #
176:  the uh route was not so long and of course they had horse-and-buggy and they uh would make the route maybe uh in two days.
Interviewer:  Now were do you didn't get mail everyday
176:  #1 No, no, no. #
Interviewer:  #2 didn't get it everyday? #
176:  About every
Interviewer:  #1 every other #
176:  #2 other day. #
Interviewer:  day.
176:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And of course the mail would
176:  Now when they first started, I think it was once a week.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {X}
176:  {D: About once a week that we got the mail.}
Interviewer:  Well now you said that your grandfather had a post office {D: out}
176:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  {X} well now how, where would he get the mail from?
176:  From Baxley.
Interviewer:  He he'd have to go back to Baxley
176:  #1 go go to Baxley and get it #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  and then bring it there and and then people would come on horseback there to get their to pick up their mail.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What was the name of the community {X} or was there a name?
176:  {NS} well I I don't remember there ever being a name
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  I don't remember that. {NS} If there was a name I don't remember it.
Interviewer:  Where is it now? What
176:  It's back in the Altamaha Section.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Back out in the it's about thirteen miles from here.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Now where did you move to to the city {X} to Hazlehurst?
176:  When I moved to Hazlehurst?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Well now uh see when I married I moved out in the country on the other side of town.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Now I was living out in the Altamaha Section whenever I married. And uh then I moved out in the uh on the Bell telephone route
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Out towards Nicholls.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
176:  And we lived on a farm there until my husband died in nineteen and sixty four.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And uh then in sixty he died in January nineteen sixty four and I bought this house here
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  in uh that {X} that same year and moved up here in sixty-four.
Interviewer:  {D: about sometimes}
176:  #1 Fifty- #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
176:  four.
Interviewer:  Fifty-four.
176:  Yeah he died in fifty-four. And I moved up here in October in fifty-four.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  And I've been living here ever since.
Interviewer:  And your your parents were born and uh raised in
176:  Yeah in Appling County which
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  is
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
176:  #2 Jeff Davis now. #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  #1 {D: something} #
Interviewer:  #2 It would # {X} what county did they put together to
176:  Uh it was Coffee County and Appling County.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  They took off
Interviewer:  Ha-
176:  some off of bo- both counties and made Jeff Davis.
Interviewer:  Now what would is the the river is the boundary?
176:  The river is the boundary, uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Now whi- which one of the rivers?
176:  Altamaha
Interviewer:  {X} And also um the Ocmulgee is up here isn't it? The um
176:  #1 Ocmulgee #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # a between Jeff Davis and {X} i- is there no
176:  Da- Ocmulgee is further on up. Now it may reach into Jeff Davis but I think I think it's
Interviewer:  #1 further #
176:  #2 further #
Interviewer:  on up.
176:  Further on up, uh-huh.
Interviewer:  {X}
176:  Yeah I think it's it's on {D: Telfair} on up further up than
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  Telfair there.
Interviewer:  Well now you s-