Interviewer: hair now and I ask you if you um say do you it do it often, then you'd say yes I 176: Yeah, I comb my hair every day. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or uh what about if if you just if I say do you do it often, you'd say yes I 176: I I comb it once a day? I Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or what about in reference to the verb do? Just what would you yes I you know it's just a simple answer, if I said do you do that often? You'd say yes 176: I comb my hair everyday? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or uh what about um just in just in reference to the verb, in other words if if you were coming you'd just say just rel- just simply you'd say yes I 176: Comb my hair. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or if it were anything, not necessarily combing your hair uh if you were putting on your shoes and I said do you do that? Then you'd say yes I 176: I do. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Yeah. Yes I do. Um what about if um if we ask if um if your brother likes ice cream then you'd say 176: Yes. Interviewer: Yes he 176: yes he does. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about if um um say uh your grandson's in school but he doesn't pay attention to the teacher, then you might you might think he just if he won't pay attention to the teacher, then you'd say he uh just is he uh 176: Dumb? Interviewer: #1 Well # 176: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: but uh if uh let's see 176: He's Interviewer: if if he just really um won't pay attention and uh just 176: Indifferent? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or um what about in reference to the verb do again? Uh 176: Do what? Interviewer: in the verb do, in other words if he he 176: just won't {D: uh} wouldn't study? Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 Uh won't # Interviewer: or um what about if uh let's see, let's let's have a get another situation. If what about if a man makes his farm run-down and um he doesn't seem to care about it then you might say to someone who asks you'd say I really don't know but he just 176: He's lazy. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or uh 176: He's no good. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh and you say he doesn't 176: #1 Care. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 176: Uh- Interviewer: #1 huh. # 176: #2 He # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 176: #2 doesn't care. # Interviewer: Yeah. Uh-huh. Okay. um if uh someone where um asking us a question and uh you'd say {D: the} say if someone asked us if we thought it was going to snow {NW} then I would say well I don't think so and then I'd ask you, I'd say 176: Do you think it's going to snow? Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh and uh alright. What about if if uh someone asked us if it were going to rain which is a lot more likely right now, then you'd say well I'm not if you weren't sure about it you'd say well I'm not 176: Sure. I don't know. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Um let's see um if if you were having a conversation with a friend of yours {D: say} and uh you were telling me about it later, then you'd say that that y'all were just sitting and y'all were just uh say y'all were discussing church of today then {D: that} you'd say that y'all were um that y'all were just 176: Discussing Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: the church. Interviewer: Yeah or y'all were just sitting around 176: Talking. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Um what about if you were uh in other words speaking to is acting to someone then you would say I was talking 176: To the person. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: Talking to the person. Interviewer: Or uh if Johnny came over you would say I was talking 176: To Johnny. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or just a {X} I was talking 176: To my grandson. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. 176: Would that be Interviewer: Yeah, uh-huh. Um let's see um if uh if someone if a a man or a boy were acting real unusual from what he he usually did then you'd s- and uh you were talking to someone about it, you might say I don't know what 176: Why he did that or what #1 caused him # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 176: to Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 act like # Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 that. # Interviewer: Or what about if it were just happening, you'd say I don't know what's 176: Possessed him Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: #1 to do that. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Uh-huh and if you'd if that's what he's changed says 176: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 uh-huh. # 176: #2 uh-huh. # Interviewer: okay and these are uh some different questions now. Um {NW} what what do you call this building that you live in? 176: A house. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or and what are some other terms that you would call it? 176: A home. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh 176: A dwelling. Interviewer: Okay. Um now what kind of a h- house is this or home is this? Is it a 176: This is a {D: green} house. Interviewer: Or and what other types are there around here in Hazlehurst? 176: Brick and uh brick and rock. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: Rock house. Interviewer: Okay. Um what um I don't think we ever mentioned this the other day, talking about the old house, what or maybe maybe there wasn't one what do you what would you call a building behind a house where you stored the the cattle? The cattle 176: That was a lot where there were Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 176: #2 where they # Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 uh the # cows stayed Interviewer: {X} 176: uh-huh. Interviewer: Um now have you ever heard it called anything else or maybe it would be a little bit different from what y'all had the lot uh like a red 176: Barn? Interviewer: Yeah. 176: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: Now but y'all didn't have 176: #1 We didn't # Interviewer: #2 {D: a lot?} # 176: have a barn for the cattle, we did have one for the {NW} {D: count} mules and horses. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: But we didn't have uh Interviewer: #1 {X} # 176: #2 one for the cows. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: They stayed out in the feedlot we called it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: Had big troughs in there and uh they put the feed in the in those troughs {X} for them to eat in the wintertime. Interviewer: Um what about did you have a building where you'd store the corn? {X} 176: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # {X} 176: Yes they'd call that the uh corn crib. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: And the- that's where they stored the corn. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What was it uh was hooked onto or #1 {X} # 176: #2 Well it was # it was just a big barn and uh they'd fill it full of corn. Uh for the roast you know during the Interviewer: Uh-huh 176: year or the and uh saved all the corn. Interviewer: Yeah. Um well what about uh did you have a building where you would store the grain? Grain? Well that was all the grain that we {X} 176: #1 made at that # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 176: time. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 It was # stored. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: Uh it was the uh corn {NS} and uh that was all we had. Uh we didn't uh didn't have anything else. Interviewer: Did uh did did have you ever heard of another a term for storing of a building where you would specifically store grain besides the corn crib? Uh did anyone else have 176: Well nowadays they have bins that they put the corn in. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: And they are made outta metal {NS} some kinda metal but uh in those days long you know when I was growing up, it was just they gathered the corn by hand and uh put it in the barn in the corn crib with in the with the shuck on it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: And then when you went to feed the stock, why you had to shuck the corn to get the Interviewer: Yeah. 176: and the fact that th- the shucks and the corn you know {D: there on the} cob could be mules and things and then uh they uh give the shucks to the cows. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: Always save the shucks and give them to the cows, they feed them uh for the in during the winter. Interviewer: Alright. What about uh {X} um you didn't have a barn but uh what would you refer to the other part of the barn uh the um in a barn to the upper s- 176: The loft. Interviewer: Uh-huh, where you had to climb up the ladder 176: Yeah, I had to go up a ladder to go up Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 in there. # 176: And that's where they put the dryer {D: uh logs} the uh hay and fodder and Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 everything # stored that upstairs. Interviewer: Yeah. Now was there an upstairs in the lot? Do- did y'all have, there wasn't a #1 upstairs to that # 176: #2 No, no, no. # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 176: #2 No # Interviewer: #1 This just is # 176: #2 that was # Interviewer: the 176: that's was the where they kept the horses, about there was fifteen or sixteen heads that they had out on this on our farm. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 A # couple of mules and horses {NS} and uh it was a it was a huge barn and then upstairs was a um where they put all the uh hay and fodder. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: They had to feed 'em. Interviewer: Um well this is I I meant to ask you the other day I I asked I asked how many acres that your grandfather had {NS} back then and you said that maybe he had four lots? 176: I think it was somewhere like that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: And my father when he bought {NS} he bought more land and he had six about six lots or maybe more and uh uh there's the lot of land was four hundred well it was uh more or less most of the deeds cost more or less four hundred and ninety acres more or less. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: {NS} Uh that's the way the lots was described on deeds then in those days. Course now I think they measured in know about you know about how many acres they was in when you buy a piece of land. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: But in those days they sc- they described the lot on the deed was more or less. Interviewer: {X} 176: Four hundred and ninety acres, more or less, that's was a lot of land. Interviewer: Was there any ever any uh problems come up with people um putting something up right at the line of somebody's property or something or another, would 176: Well sometimes, not not very uh most people uh {NS} uh knew where their lines were Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 you know and # Interviewer: They'd work it out 176: #1 They would work it out # Interviewer: #2 if something came up? # 176: #1 there was # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 176: no lawsuits or nothing like Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 that # along those days. About where the line went as I remember anything about it. They always tried to work it out, where the line was and and then uh when they uh see when Jeff Davis uh uh was made a county {NS} well they started on the Appling County side uh {D: so there} so they {D: enacted} lots of land Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: And then on the Jeff Davis side, I mean the Coffee County side and they met right near the Bell Telephone Route. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: And there was a strip of land in there that was uh left that was no that nobody had a deed to. Interviewer: Yeah. 176: And that was uh later uh decided which side of the uh the land owner got it and it was decided here in Jeff Davis County the uh the the ones on the uh Coffee County side got the land that was Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: that um Interviewer: #1 that # 176: #2 that # {X} was on the was left there Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 you know # it was no deed or nothing made Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 to it. # Interviewer: Um {D: another thing} now getting back to uh the lawn and lot and all um what about what do you call hay that's piled up outside of the barn? What would you call um if there was a big um lump of hay there, you'd call it a hay 176: Stack. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Um um let's see, what about uh-huh did now let's see, there were these stacks of hay out in the like would that haystack specifically like out in the field 176: Well that's {X} where they'd stack it up to cure it Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 you see. # 176: They used to just uh cut the hay and they had poles and they uh they cut trees you know, pole and they'd uh t- uh tack pieces across uh one one way and one another and then they'd put that hay up on these {NS} uh poles to dry. {NS} To cure. And leave it there just fill that just as long as it would stay up on that on those pieces and that they called a haystack. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about um hay that that'd be keeping hay also inside the barn then {D: would that} 176: Well then they'd bale it Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 you know. # 176: And then carry it to the barn after it cured in the on those stacks. Interviewer: Now um what would the bale of hay look like? Ho- how would how is it shaped? 176: Well it's uh it would be longer than it was wide Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 it was # longer than Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: now this uh not near as wide as it was long. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Um is um before they put the the hay in in stacks, what um had it been raked up in the field just 176: Well they had to they had before they got uh things to bale it with they just had to put it in the when it cured out they just had to put it in the barn loose. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: Because they had no they had to have a lotta storage places to put it because after they got to where they found I mean uh could bale hay {NS} well that would uh {NS} when it would {NS} press it together it would take less storage space. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: But i- a long years ago they had to have lots of barns to put it in because they had no {D: way to bale it} Interviewer: Bale it the hay. Put it in loose. 176: Had to put it in loose. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Um let's see I believe you said that uh the cows were kept in the the 176: The cow lot, we always called it Interviewer: #1 The cow lot? # 176: #2 the cow lot. # Interviewer: Uh-huh Yeah. Uh and there and there there was shelter over it, said that 176: No there was Interviewer: #1 {X} # 176: #2 no shelter over it, there was # no shelter over the cow barn. No. Uh there was a in the cow lot, there was no shelter over it but now the mule barn was. Interviewer: Was {X} 176: But the cow lot was no and it they get they just stayed out there in it in the cold and all, just uh Interviewer: Get rained on? 176: Rained on and everything. And that was in during the winter, now in the summertimes they would never p- there wasn't put up in pens at night but in the wintertime, they were put up in these cow lot and fed. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: They {D: just} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 176: #2 fed 'em. # 176: Because there was not a lot of stuff for them to get but in the summertime uh they went in the woods. Interviewer: Uh-huh, they just grazed? {D: Is that} 176: #1 {D: grazed} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # they grazed out on the river? 176: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 {D: on the} # 176: #1 and uh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 176: all all about you know. Interviewer: Um did uh you said that y'all milked the cows, did was there a special place where you'd milk the cows? Did you call it any special um any special 176: #1 No # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 176: we didn't have no special just in the cow lot. Interviewer: That's just where 176: yeah. Didn't have no special {NS} barn or nothing to put them in to Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: milk 'em. {NS} Interviewer: Um now what about where you kept the hogs and pigs? Did uh what did you have a special place for them? 176: Yeah we- they they put the cow- the uh hogs in the field in the winter i- in the fall the {D: fat ones} and then uh they'd have pens. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: Uh when they took 'em out of the field and fed 'em corn and and uh potatoes and stuff that we had to feed 'em with and uh fattened them. Got 'em real fat. And uh then killed 'em, that was just we called a hog pen. Interviewer: Yeah. Uh-huh. {X} 176: Had a trough made to put in there to put the feed in. Interviewer: Uh well did it have shelter or was it open? 176: No it was open, Interviewer: #1 Open? # 176: #2 {X} # was open. Interviewer: Uh {NS} let's see now {D: lady said} that you kept your uh milk and and what {D: our uh} what we'd keep in refrigerator today, you'd keep all that down in the well. 176: Yeah yeah in the summer. {NS} And the wintertime we didn't have to. Interviewer: Where would you keep it in 176: Keep it out in the we had a it was a they call it a milk house and it was uh scree- I mean uh uh built up and it had it was a door, we'd call it a cupboard like Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: and you put the milk in the in this s- wintertime and it stayed cold in there and sometimes it would be icing. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 176: Didn't have to have any didn't have to put it down the well, now that was in summertime and {D: but the} {X} Interviewer: {X} Uh-huh 176: to keep it cool in the summertime. Interviewer: Yeah. Um what di- when um now as you said that everyone just did their own milking of cows and making butter there weren't 176: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 there # weren't any special places? 176: No just uh went to the lot and milked the cow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. When do you remember first um there was someone taking over, getting cows to to to milk and and to sell the milk, when do you remember the first 176: Well I don't remember, I don't remember when that happened because we had just {D: a worlds} #1 of milk all # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 176: #1 the time # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh. # 176: and uh the people that lived around us