Interviewer:  {D: injured the cow} um it had stickers on it right?
176:  that was uh crop wire.
Interviewer:  thats right yeah. um {C: overlapping can't distinguish voices}
176:  well the yeah later on we had uh right there uh
Interviewer:  um but what is
176:  what a fence a fence oh no no in the later years but now what I was talking about was the uh long years before I married. They say we had little fences.
Interviewer:  were there any other names for little wood um the um round fences were they um were they laid out in a zigzag?
176:  yeah yeah they were- they're- they were uh posts put one down and then and another one you know coming across that poor and they would zigzag.
Interviewer:  that was um talking about the barb the barb on the fence uh set one of those up
176:  well uh yeah they do {X}{C: weird overlap} post ends they had to use them used uh fence posts in around there and there wire there the wire too and a wooden post along here and along there. {X}
Interviewer:  And what what would you call several of them together? The plural of that. um if there was if you had one post that {X} to two were they um were they laid in a in a huge {X}
176:  yeah yeah they were- they're- they were there they would be uh put one there and then and another one you know coming across that in the corner and they would zigzag.
Interviewer:  uh what about uh a fence or a wall thats made of loose rocks or stones that you might get from a field did did you ever did ya'll ever have any of stones maybe a fence made out of stones or rocks?
176:  yeah uh we had to use the fences was made out of rocks but the um and the pleat was made of wire too thats what they made a- and then they furnished with what they bore or sat in to uh cook the syrup uh it was made out of rocks and clay and um we didn't have bricks then {X} and they made that out of rocks and clay and of course they had to repair it every- every year but it um help the boar up and
Interviewer:  what about a fence?
176:  And they could serve in there.
Interviewer:  rock stones that you might see
176:  {X} the hogs in there.
Interviewer:  uh what if- if you've got um your- your real good dishes what what are they made of?
176:  um uh china
Interviewer:  um {D: if have you um have you ever seen an egg say something like that}
176:  yes I have I've seen that before.
Interviewer:  and what what would what would that be called then? um is there a name for um or any different name at the time?
176:  what makes an artificial egg I guess you'd call it {D: wouldn't you}?
Interviewer:  for decoration
176:  for decoration yeah but
Interviewer:  um {D: a dating service sort of some ah}
176:  and scolded the horse
Interviewer:  the kitchen turns first and you say uh what about uh what did you use to carry your water in from the well?
176:  buckets wood buckets
Interviewer:  uh did uh when did you have had metal or did you?
176:  did do what
Interviewer:  Did you use metal buckets did you ever have any metal?
176:  uh it was I was about grown before we ever had a metal bucket
Interviewer:  uh ho uh about how big were what would that be called then
176:  I think about forty feet deep was the well about forty so far down
Interviewer:  would the bucket of water be heavy?
176:  yes it would be heavy yes heavy now the old house we didn't have a bucket in the well we I mean a buck- had a bucket but uh sweep uh that uh if you pulled down and and then the switch pulled the bucket up. um we've had a long it had a weight on the end of it they called it a sweeper. it was long long and the end it had a weight on it and you pulled it down into the well and made the bucket sink and then you had to hold it to come up you didn't pull it up you held it to keep it coming up too fast and spilling the water and then when you got to the top why they when they got to the top of the well they um they sweep. they wait on it and going back down to the ground and you just took your water out and uh and they poured it out into whatever {X} you never knew about that way. well that that was an old timey way of getting water up we use to uh it had a long uh it was all wood uh it had a lo- a log and it was put up on the high pole and it had uh um peg that went through there that went through the the um stand that helped the log up it had a peg wooden peg and helped it off the top and that um it was hewn down with the uh hewn it down you know the log and it was made square uh an axe that we used to hew it down and the poured a hole made a hole through this log and then they had this uh wooden peg that wen through there. and um that um then it it it toppered there they had a pole that come down it was easy for you it wasn't- it wasn't too big that you can hold and you pulled it down like this and pulled it down and then when you got it in the {X} got your bucket full then you rolled it up but you had to hold it to- to- to steady to keep your water from spilling and you didn't let it come up too fast everybody drew the water up he didn't have to. pull it down you know. you never had heard tell of that? well that was that was the way to draw water in those days. and it was not you'd think it was bad but it was it was not bad to get it up and out of the water.
Interviewer:  this was a covered well.
176:  no no it wasn't and um
Interviewer:  um now um you use the bucket a bucket cane now what what did you use to carry the milk in?
176:  wooden bucket.
Interviewer:  a wooden bucket?
176:  and after you milk then everything was after the milk was stained we used a cloth. just strain the milk always strain the milk. and all of that washed and put out in sunshine everyday. Uh after you got through with the milk that was all washed and put out in the sun.
Interviewer:  uh what kind of cloth?
176:  well it was uh uh some- it was a kind of thin material and uh that they used it {X} with the straining process and it was washed sterilized we would then put in the sun. no no there was no ogre left in in it.
Interviewer:  {X} everyday?
176:  everyday. after you milk.
Interviewer:  uh what about wooden bucket to carry your milk in. What, do you have a special name that um that were made out of metal what would have it been called?
176:  the milk bucket. we always call it a milk bucket.
Interviewer:  Now did you ever hear it called a- a pail did you ever call it a pail or did y'all ever call it-
176:  well no we just called it the milk bucket.
Interviewer:  um Now what about the container that you use to carry the feed to the pigs in. what was it called?
176:  slop bucket they called it.
Interviewer:  uh and w- was it the same kind of bucket?
176:  yeah yeah yeah
Interviewer:  were all these the same bucket or did you keep them separate?
176:  oh they were kept separate. Sure can't, you would never keep your milk bucket was kept, uh slop bucket was not being uh um it was not as clean {X} you kept your milk you had to keep your milk bucket clean and {X} everything. the milk bucket.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. we always called it the milk bucket. now where where did you keep the uh slop bucket? did you keep it in the kitchen?
176:  no no outside outside yeah.
Interviewer:  well would that have uh table scraps?
176:  yeah it'd have table scraps any kind of scraps that you had left from preparing the vegetables and stuff put it all in there.
Interviewer:  well when you were working in the kitchen and you had those scraps did- did you take them right out to the slop bucket or did you have something?
176:  no it was it was wet th-they had a stand outside in the back of the kitchen and a window and um you put all that out on that stand. Ya it was a stand and the buckets was on the stand.
Interviewer:  in little pieces Mm-hmm um now where where did you keep the uh slop bucket did you keep it in the kitchen?
176:  no no outside #1 outside yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 you kept it outside # well would that have uh table scrapes?
176:  yeah had to have a table scraps and any kind of scraps that you have left from preparing the vegetables and stuff put it all in there.
Interviewer:  well when you were working in the kitchen and you had these scrapes did did you take um right out to the slop bucket or did you have something in the kitchen?
176:  no they were it was wet th-they had a stand outside at the back of the kitchen and window and um you put all that out on that stand. It was a stand and the buckets was on this stand.
Interviewer:  {X}?
176:  put it out of the window.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Okay um what about does the {B} kitchen, to- what what do you used to fry eggs in?
176:  {D: well I had a prickle} Iron griddle by the egg shed.
Interviewer:  and um did did uh did you ever know about one that that they had in a fireplace with legs on it?
176:  yeah uh yeah we had those and I {X} but we didn't use 'em so you see my grandfather had bought this wood stove and and uh i-it it was we used it. it was left there in the house when my grandmother left she left this wood stove and we used it um for years after that
Interviewer:  what um
176:  What we had old {X} parts that had the legs on 'em and everything they were um there but we didn't use it the fireplace. Now once in a while they would let my mother would use it to bake potatoes you know she thought that baked potatoes might be good in the fireplace.
Interviewer:  uh what what was this called that that was in the fire place were the lanes that it was in also called a...
176:  the what?
Interviewer:  the um the the your grand mother, whoever used to use {X} you had the wooden stove. was it also called an iron griddle?
176:  well it had a lid to it what you baked bread and uh everything in it. yeah it was cold there but it had a lid on it everything you cook on it uh in the fireplace you had to have a lid that they did t- you know then cook it over.
Interviewer:  uh-huh.
176:  have lids on it.
Interviewer:  um what about nowadays what do you you call um, the um, utensils that you use to cook eggs in or fry in
176:  frying pan.
Interviewer:  #1 you call it a frying pan #
176:  #2 frying pan I use frying pan #
Interviewer:  #1 #
176:  #2 #
Interviewer:  um did uh uh one man touch {X} what um, did you have anything or do do you remember your grandmother ever had anything that uh some big black something that like out in the backyard you used to fold clothes in
176:  yeah a wash pot
Interviewer:  #1 a wash pot okay #
176:  #2 yeah yeah always # for the clothes.
Interviewer:  was it used for anything else or was it you used-
176:  mostly just for {X} uh my mother cooked lard in it you know cooked out the uh she called it cooking out the lard it's the fat
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  from the hog she'd cook it out in there and then she cooked the tallow from the cow and make a big you know make uh cook that with the tallow.
Interviewer:  now weren't you telling me the other day um that she stored the uh {X} that she made in?
176:  yeah in the in the fat in the in the lard.
Interviewer:  um what about what do you call this up here on the TV uh the utensil or something that you use to keep flowers in? Just just something that you'd have that you went outside and cut the flowers and cut um and put um in what you call
176:  a vase.
Interviewer:  or what about um lets see some of the uh things you have around here are uh {X} outside what are they called?
176:  beds.
Interviewer:  and about that what about the uh little um earthen ware?
176:  pots. {D: private pots}.
Interviewer:  and those are those you wouldn't call a vase a flower pot?
176:  no no {D: well it was the vase}. Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  what um could you name the um some of the eating utensils in other words just some of your silverware what are the different names of
176:  well uh big spoon and uh and uh the knife and the fork and uh its the uh soup spoon and uh a teaspoon
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
176:  and a ice tea spoon and um butcher knife and uh the large vegetable spoon.
Interviewer:  what about if you had um were speaking about of we have more than one knife wha- how would you refer to?
176:  knives.
Interviewer:  okay um if uh if the dishes were dirty and it was almost supper time a- and all your dishes were dirty before before you could have supper you- you would say well I'll
176:  wash the dishes.
Interviewer:  and uh what about after you wash the dishes you'd say after she washed the dishes then she
176:  dry them rinsed um off rinsed them
Interviewer:  #1 uh-huh to get the soap off. #
176:  #2 {X}. # yeah.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. of what do you use to what what do you call the the cloth that you use to wash the dishes?
176:  dish cloth.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and uh what about the cloth that you use to dry the dishes with?
176:  drying cloth.
Interviewer:  um what about the uh terry cloth that you use to wash your face with?
176:  well that's a wash cloth {X}
Interviewer:  and what about to dry yourself off after you've had a bath?
176:  towel.
Interviewer:  um now at the uh {X} the uh kitchen sink to turn the water on what do you call the...
176:  the faucet.
Interviewer:  and uh do you also call the outside water pipe?
176:  no yeah that is a faucet.
Interviewer:  um what about um the uh do you ever refer to uh the kitchen sink or the bathroom sink where you turn the water do you ever refer to it any- as anything other than faucet?
176:  spigot. ya the spigot in the yard we I believe we called them in the yard a spigot and in the house a faucet.
Interviewer:  #1 where you turn the water on? #
176:  #2 yeah yeah. #
Interviewer:  was there any reason for calling?
176:  well no I I don't I don't remember that there were {X}
Interviewer:  but did you just remember that that
176:  #1 That yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 station was the # {X}. but you you call 'em faucets now.
176:  yeah most of the time yeah. but they do c- c- um talk about the in yard being a spigot {X}.
Interviewer:  but you wouldn't call the one in the house a spigot?
176:  no. no I wouldn't.
Interviewer:  um If um gotta think if it were real cold weather and um and y- you um um didn't tie your the spigots or faucets up outside then there um there'd be a possibility that last night the water pipes might?
176:  freeze.
Interviewer:  or what if they came over in other words if they uh
176:  burst.
Interviewer:  same thing that if you stuck a pen in a balloon.
176:  yeah yeah.
Interviewer:  balloon. um now we've already talked about the size of of flour and stuff in barrels get barrels from Savannah and all and um what about uh I don't believe you mentioned that you ever bought and did you ever buy molasses or did ya'll make-
176:  no we made that. yeah that, we got the molasses out of out of the when it drained out to make the sugar.
Interviewer:  what about if you uh do- do you what were what was molasses or lard stored in if- if you did buy it do you
176:  #1 in barrels. #
Interviewer:  #2 remember? Mm-hmm #
176:  #1 in barrels.B #
Interviewer:  #2 Barrels? # um if um you're wanting to pour some water into a narrow mouthed bottle what would you use to get the water what would you use to pour it in?
176:  uh funnel
Interviewer:  funnel? what uh when you had the horses and buggies or if you remember about horses and buggies what do- what would your father use to make the horse go faster?
176:  a whip.
Interviewer:  you uh-huh.
176:  whip.
Interviewer:  and uh {X} bought some say nowadays if you bought some fruit at the store what um what would the gro- what would you put 'em in to take to the grocer to be weighed? what what would they be putting it in-
176:  in a bag. in a paper bag.
Interviewer:  paper bag uh-huh. um um lets see. what were they did you use the paper bags or were they made out of something else?
176:  well we didn't {X} there was a paper bags back when I was a child grew up. there wasn't anything-
Interviewer:  wasn't anything like it?
176:  no I- I don't remember it being #1 anything plastic #
Interviewer:  #2 were # bags and-
176:  no there was no plastic at all.
Interviewer:  all of this what were what were they made of did you have any kind of a sack or
176:  well I don't remember there being any kind of sacks unless uh we made one out of some kind of materials cloth like a sack out of {X}.
Interviewer:  well then you had your feed and all so you didn't
176:  Didn't buy anything they'd have to have
Interviewer:  #1 can't just have anything #
176:  #2 no #
Interviewer:  everything came in barrels?
176:  yeah yeah it was bought in barrels.
Interviewer:  um what about after you started buyi- now like you said occasionally you'd get some sugar from Savannah what would it um how how what would it be
176:  #1 barrels yes yes. #
Interviewer:  #2 sugar in barrels? Mm-hmm #
176:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # um what about uh the coffee?
176:  well it was green coffee and it was in barrels too
Interviewer:  {X}. what about after you uh uh worked in the fertilizer and feed or everything what would the feed and all come in? when you were working in your store?
176:  oh well now after that then you see we had plenty of sacks an everything and i- and it was um burlap bags for the fertilizer was in and then uh paper bags the feed and you bought oh man and the seed came in mostly in um pork bags. the seed. and some of um was in burlap bags.
Interviewer:  now you said that y'all used to take your corn to the mill
176:  #1 yeah mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 to be ground up # what um did- did you have a specific term for the amount of corn that you would take in one time to the mill to be ground-
176:  well usually we carried it in by the bushel you know would have. bushel.
Interviewer:  um what about do would you have a term um for the amount of wood that you could carry like the boys would go out at school house you'd say they would go out and get the wood to bring in t- to burn wh- have you ever heard the term to use for-
176:  yeah uh they- they'd bring in a ton of wood.
Interviewer:  a ton of wood?
176:  yeah. a ton of wood.
Interviewer:  I've never heard that.
176:  well thats what they'd do you'd go and bring in a ton of wood.
Interviewer:  and that means just what you could ca-
176:  what you could carry.
Interviewer:  um what about like last night tried to turn on your {NW} your back light um and I thought it was out if it had been burned out then you'd say today you were going to have to put in a new
176:  new bulb.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. uh when you're uh carrying out your clothes to hang up on the line what do you take them out in?
176:  um in the well I you mean when I what I took 'em out to the line in?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and you've just washed 'em and were taking them out to dry and wha- what do you have a name for the
176:  clothes basket.
Interviewer:  Clothes basket. um what about nails when you buy a lot of nails what do they come in
176:  a keg a wooden keg.
Interviewer:  um now did ya'll used to buy nails
176:  what?
Interviewer:  did y'all buy nails?
176:  yeah yeah yeah we had {X}.
Interviewer:  would you get those from Savannah?
176:  yeah.
Interviewer:  um what did you call uh speaking of these barrels what uh went around the barrel that held the wood?
176:  well it was um I don't know what it was made out of but it was some kind of metal that held 'em together. that um and uh y- you tighten them if the got uh the barrel shrunk up and uh if you were going to put some liquid in there it was leaking why you took a hammer and um and tighten those uh um bands it was around and it was some kind of metal I don't know what it was made out of you could tighten them and put them you would see the bell was small at the end and got bigger to the middle and um so you- you drove 'em down to tighten.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. um and you then said that y'all used to take baths in the barrels that in the {X}?
176:  well yeah in the yeah you take baths in the in the uh tub you see it was was cut half in two but those big barrels was pretty good size you could sit down in there. {D: Sure}.
Interviewer:  Uh couldn't a dog?
176:  child naw I don't think a dog could.
Interviewer:  um Now why- and it would hold the water. Now would you-
176:  oh yeah yeah yeah hold the water and they used them at the washing. wash the clothes. and then there's soap 'em wash 'em. and they had uh we had uh a block that was a big tree cut and then uh it was smooth on top but it was sawed off and uh we had uh stick that you'd beat the clothes
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
176:  to get the dirt to loosen up the dirt is what we say you know and um {X} so we had to do that and then put them in the pot to boil.
Interviewer:  um and uh if you want to uh stop up uh a bottle what would you use to put- put in the top of a bottle?
176:  a cork.
Interviewer:  um
176:  a stopper?
Interviewer:  yeah i- is that- that's what you usually call it?
176:  yeah a stopper
Interviewer:  A stopper?
176:  Cork stopper.
Interviewer:  lets see. these are two um speaking about two musical instruments um what what do you call or have you ever seen a- a little silver instrument about so big with different little notes on it that you would use to play-
176:  Mare harp?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
176:  #1 thats what I though #
Interviewer:  #2 Did you # play different- different
176:  #1 yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 songs # on it? Uh-huh. uh have you ever played one done?
176:  uh yeah.
Interviewer:  really? what about um have you ever seen something that you uh this is another musical instrument you hold it between your your teeth and pick it with your
176:  it's a um Jew Saw.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh it makes a funny
176:  #1 yeah yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 a funny kind of sound. #
176:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # um did y'all used to have those-
176:  yeah yeah yeah yeah used to have those Jews harp they called it.
Interviewer:  um lets see on a on a wa- with with two horses what is the name for the long wooden piece that comes between the two horses?
176:  its the tongue.
Interviewer:  tongue?
176:  yeah. a wagon tongue.
Interviewer:  and um uh if you if you have a horse that's pulling a buggy before you can hitch him up you have to back him in between
176:  the shags.
Interviewer:  on a b- on the buggy? Uh-huh to uh what is that to get the
176:  to you have to put the- the there's a piece that comes across uh the horse that holds it and you run the shags in that and i- and it holds the uh shags up for him to pull and you have traces that you hook on to the uh thing that goes across those shags.
Interviewer:  uh-huh.
176:  and uh that's and that's hooked on to the cart and that's what what he pulls with.
Interviewer:  um so its no pressure {D: you know} real pressure on the horse-
176:  nothing on there on this cart.
Interviewer:  {X} Um, what what do you call the steel the steel outside uh of a wagon wheel?
176:  the rim.
Interviewer:  it's the rim? okay. and uh have have you ever heard of the filly?
176:  the what?
Interviewer:  the filly?
176:  the filly?
Interviewer:  Filly uh-huh.
176:  that's a young horse.
Interviewer:  um what about have you ever heard of it in reference to a wagon wheel? Lemme see. in reference to the wheel if it's just the individual piece with the two, two spoke holes or is it the whole wheel or have you just never never heard of the felly referred to as a wagon-
176:  no no never have no no never heard of that.
Interviewer:  that was one of the terms that they had um just wondered if you ever used it but you just used it as the wagon wheel and the rim of the wheel and what were the things-
176:  Spokes
Interviewer:  #1 Spokes uh-huh #
176:  #2 the spoke yes yeah #
Interviewer:  those were the different parts.
176:  yeah.
Interviewer:  what about all the parts to the wagon wheel?
176:  well if they uh they was the outside was uh was iron you see. the rim they called it and the inside part all was wood.
Interviewer:  um let's see uh we may have mentioned this jus- just a minute ago. when a horse is hitched to a wagon what do you call the bar of wood that the traces are fastened to {NS}
176:  the singletree.
Interviewer:  now what does that {X}
176:  well that's uh the traces are are uh and it's on a uh uh the singletree is on they put it on there with a- a {X} that goes through and it works as the horse uh a- as uh uh moves it works back into it as the horse walks you see. Gives him uh room to walk it- it it was solid why when he walked it would be a- a terrible strainer but it moves moves as it uh as he walks and they call that a singletree
Interviewer:  Well now that's something I've never heard of either. what about if you had um two horses and each one had would have a singletree?
176:  yeah and then a double see a doubletree and then the single each one would have a s uh there's a doubletree that goes in the was in the center.
Interviewer:  yeah.
176:  and then at one on each side and each horse had a singletree that that moved you know as he walked with his it m- it uh moved a- uh his motions moved that s- thing you see
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. um speaking of a wagon if uh um man loading up some wood on his wagon and uh and then he was gonna take it take it somewhere take it over to a neighbors house or something other um what would you say that he was doing that wood he was... um uh a term or a verb ha- what would you say that he would he would
176:  Doing a good deed?
Interviewer:  #1 yeah. #
176:  #2 {X}? #
Interviewer:  or around or even not necessarily to a neighbor's if he was just getting some maybe just getting some wood uh in the- out in the field and bringing it to the house um {X}
176:  hauling a load of wood?
Interviewer:  uh-huh.
176:  hauling up a load of wood.
Interviewer:  {X} and uh he would he's hauling
176:  yeah to your horse. hauling wood that's- that's what we always called it
Interviewer:  {NS} um {NS} {NS} {NS}