Interviewer: Yeah I was going to ask you about family relationships say if someone asked your mother who you know the fellow was she's married to she'd say that's my 185: That's my husband Interviewer: And he would say that's my 185: Wife Interviewer: What about a woman whose husband has died you'd call her a 185: She's a widow Interviewer: Any can you think of any particular term maybe for a a woman whose husband hasn't died but he just left her something that she might be called 185: Um a divorcee after a divorce Interviewer: Yeah what what about if that's not the case he just up and gone 185: Um I don't what if there's any special term you just say that oh {NW} So and so well you know he left Interviewer: {NW} That's one way to get it around yeah you ever heard of the term grass widow 185: Oh yeah yeah Interviewer: That's what it means 185: Um I don't know if that I'm not I'm not sure what it means but my father's ref- um Has has used the term grass widow Interviewer: Mm-hmm yeah I asked a fellow about that I rarely get an explanation he said he thought it had something to do with an expression you know the grass is greener on the other side took of f 185: I think so because um My father sometimes differentiates between a grass widow and a side widow {NW} And I said well what do you mean by side widow {NW} And he said well her husband's dead And so Yeah Interviewer: {NW} That's good what did uh what did you call your father 185: Daddy Interviewer: Daddy 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: And your mother 185: Is mama Interviewer: You say your grandparents what did you call them 185: Okay my Paternal grandparents were grandpappy And granny My maternal grandparents {NW} Are Mamimi And grandpa Interviewer: Mamimi 185: Yeah um {NW} It's spelled M-A-M-I-M-I And She got that name When her oldest grandson Um who's In his thirties now {NW} Was trying to pronounce grandmother Or grandmama I'm not sure which one {NW} And it came out that way he could never say grandmother or grandmama {NW} It came out Mamimi And um he kept calling her that Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: And um So she's been that ever since then Interviewer: Mm yeah yeah my paternal grandmother was mamaw I guess that was the uh combination of grandma and uh grandma and something I don't that was whatever it was say uh have you ever heard a name that uh a child was known by just within his family they give him a little 185: A little nickname Mm-hmm Interviewer: Pet name 185: A pet name or a family name Interviewer: That would be the same 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Yeah I see and this thing that you put a baby in you know it has wheels and it can lie down 185: A car- a baby carriage Interviewer: Yeah what would you say you were doing if you were putting the baby in the carriage and going out 185: And you are You stroll the baby Interviewer: Stroll the baby 185: Yeah Interviewer: Say uh if a if a man or a uh a couple had children say one was twenty and one was about fifteen another eleven something like that talking about in terms of being grown up you'd say the one who's twenty is the 185: Is um The oldest {NW} And then there's the middle child then there's the youngest and who's sometimes called the least child Interviewer: The least child I see or if you wanted to use that expression growing up in the description again talking about the one who's twenty you'd say he's the 185: He's the grown one Interviewer: Or maybe the the most grown up or 185: Mm-hmm yeah something like that Interviewer: Anybody say the grown-up-est 185: {NW} Um I think so I I think I I I I've heard someone say grown-up-est Interviewer: Yeah say one's children and has some uh sons and the 185: And the daughters Interviewer: Or the boys and the 185: Girls Interviewer: A woman who is uh about to have a baby you say she's 185: She's pregnant Or she's expecting Interviewer: Can you think of anything else that you might have heard besides pregnant or expecting maybe used uh uh jokingly or something like that to describe her condition 185: In the family way Interviewer: In the family way 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Uh something like uh one fellow that told me uh well she's {X} You ever heard something like that 185: Mm-mm Interviewer: Got a cake in the oven 185: A bun in the oven Interviewer: {NW} Say uh way back when uh if a doctor wasn't available to deliver 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: A woman that might be called in 185: Would Would be a midwife Interviewer: Any other term for midwife 185: Maybe a granny woman Interviewer: Yeah now this expression say if a boy has the same color hair and eyes as his father and maybe his nose is shaped just about the same 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: You say that he his father 185: Looks just like Resembles Interviewer: Yeah 185: Favors Interviewer: Would takes after be used 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Takes after 185: I I I think takes after could be yeah Interviewer: Or say a woman that's looked after three children until they're grown up you'd say that she's three children 185: She's raised three children Interviewer: Any besides raised uh 185: I can't think of any Interviewer: Reared 185: Yeah she's reared three children Interviewer: I see or say to a child who's misbehaving you might say if you do that again I'm going to give you a good 185: A good whipping Or a good spanking Interviewer: Is that the same thing 185: Yeah They both hurt Interviewer: Yeah right or a child that's uh born to an unmarried woman common term would be 185: Um he's a bastard Interviewer: Anything besides that that you've ever heard 185: Um he's illegitimate Um I think they'd probably refer to him In public or among each other as as not knowing his father Interviewer: Yeah 185: And then when {NW} Then when they got down to to to to the nitty-gritties bastard would be rolled out Interviewer: Yeah woods colt have you ever heard 185: No Interviewer: What about a volunteer 185: No Although that is very good Interviewer: {X} Say uh you made this expression in comparing children somebody might say something like well now Jane is a loving child but Peggy's a lot 185: A lot loving-er or more loving Interviewer: Or say if uh if your brother had a son that son would be your 185: My nephew Interviewer: And uh oh a child you know who's uh both his parents have died say he was 185: He's an orphan Interviewer: And the person appointed to look after him would be 185: His guardian Interviewer: Or say if your house was full of people like your oh your aunts and your uncles you know uh and you'd say your house is full of your 185: Is full of your of your kin or your relatives Interviewer: Anything besides kin 185: Your family Interviewer: People around here say kinfolks 185: Yeah Mm-hmm They do um Usually they say family more than kinfolks You hear kinfolks occasionally Interviewer: Well say this expression if somebody's told you about someone who looks a lot like you you might say well that might very well be but actually I'm no 185: I'm no kin Interviewer: How would you describe someone who comes into town no one's ever seen him before you'd say he's a 185: He's a stranger Interviewer: Or somebody from another country you'd say he 185: He's a foreigner Interviewer: You ever heard of that word foreigner used to describe somebody not necessarily from another country 185: I don't know Um {NW} I'm not really sure um there haven't been that many people who have moved into town Interviewer: Yeah I was sometimes people use that synonymous you know with stranger 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: He might be you know just down the road 185: Thirty miles away Interviewer: {X} Uh a few uh common well proper names really going to ask you about for people's first names uh you know the the name of the mother of Jesus in the Bible her name was 185: Mary Interviewer: And Washington's wife was 185: Martha Interviewer: You remember that old song oh wait until the sunshine 185: Nelly Interviewer: And uh oh uh a boy named William might be given this name you know they call him for short 185: Bill Interviewer: Or 185: Will Interviewer: And the male goat's sometimes called a 185: Billy Interviewer: Um a man's first name beginning with M uh in the Bible the gospels Mark Luke John and 185: Matthew Interviewer: Ever heard any uh particular names for in general for a woman who teaches school 185: School teacher Interviewer: Maybe something that's old fashioned 185: Um schoolmarm Or school ma'am Interviewer: Do you actually ever hear that 185: No I've never heard it Interviewer: Say uh do you remember the American novelist nineteenth century who wrote the leather stocking tales 185: James Fenimore Cooper Interviewer: Yeah how would you address a married woman who had that last name that's 185: Misses Cooper Interviewer: Say a a preacher who's really not trained to be a preacher really not very 185: He's received the call Interviewer: {NW} Yeah okay have you ever heard of any any say designation for somebody like that besides saying he's received the call that he's just an old like I said not very good at it does something else for a living probably not too confident he's just an old 185: There is and I can't think of it I can't think of it and It's not It's a phrase Interviewer: Yeah 185: And I and I can't think of it right now Interviewer: Is it a 185: Yeah Yeah That's it Interviewer: You hear that 185: {NW} Um Usually only refer Usually only in family discussions {NW} After all if you talk to the wrong person you might you might insult one of {X} Interviewer: {NW} {X} Can you have a a jack leg anything else 185: Oh yeah you can have a jack leg lawyer Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: And um Probably even jack leg doctor Interviewer: Yeah 185: But um Um Usually a jack leg preacher I have heard {NW} Some lawyers referred to as jack legs Interviewer: What about any particular expressions like that for mechanics uh that might not be particularly good 185: {NW} Not for mechanics Um At least I've never heard of them Because most of the mechanics at home are pretty they've Interviewer: Yeah 185: They've been tinkering with cars all their life And so they finally turned out to be pretty good at it Interviewer: I was wondering about shade tree mechanic have you ever heard that 185: No Interviewer: No shade tree mechanic 185: {NW} I like that Interviewer: Shade tree uh getting back to a few names a woman's first name begins with the letter S uh Abraham's wife in the Bible 185: Sarah Interviewer: And if your father had a brother named William that would be your 185: My Uncle Bill Interviewer: Or your uncle 185: Will or William Interviewer: And if you had one named John that would be your 185: Uncle John Interviewer: Uh Robert E Lee uh his rank was 185: He was a general Interviewer: And by the way that particular people refer to that where you're from as 185: As the civil war Interviewer: Any other name 185: Well the U-D-C insists that it be referred to as the war between the states Interviewer: {NW} 185: We have a real good U-D-C woman at home she is just really nothing but absolute bat Interviewer: {NW} Really up on her high horse 185: Really um See okay see Jeff Davis got captured at Irwinville Which is about fifteen miles from Ocilla {NW} And the state used to have a park there that was Jefferson Davis State Park {NW} And um When George Busbee decided to economize our expenditures and government {NW} Um he decided that some of these state parks were just a useless waste of money they was putting about thirty thousand dollars a year to keep it going with Groundskeeper {NW} Maybe Security guard all the and Keeping up the grounds and everything and paying the lights and water {NW} And So there was that and it was ma- it it was taking in something around maybe twenty-five hundred dollars a year {NW} There was that {NW} Also {NW} Our state senator and our Representatives both made the um Mistake of back of backing Lester Maddox {NW} So uh George had political debts to pay also {NW} And um so he announced the department of natural resources would save thirty thousand dollars by closing down Jefferson Davis State Park {NW} So A group of concerned citizens from the county consisting of the um County commission chairman and a couple of others and like {NW} Um This real good Daughter of the confederacy went up {NW} And she finally got down on her knees At George Busbee's feet and just begged him not Not to close it and there was a picture in the paper at home of that {NW} Interviewer: {X} 185: Yes But see in like in supplication from George {NW} And the thing about it is is that her husband is one of the bankers at home {NW} And everyone really likes him and thinks an awful lot of him but her no Interviewer: The fanatic 185: Really Interviewer: Yeah I read these little write ups just for the fun of it that's always the same thing out in a meeting and they're saluting the confederate flag {NW} That'd just be a howl to go to one of those things uh have you ever heard anybody refer to the civil war uh as anything besides that the war between the states or is that about it 185: Um I've heard it jokingly referred to as the war of northern aggression Interviewer: You're the first person who's ever responded to that without having it suggested to them that's interesting back home 185: Um No the person that Um I first heard it referred to was was from a girl from Nashville Tennessee who was Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: Here at school was a history major {NW} And um We were taking new south together that's one of Doctor Carter's courses Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: And um We were just jokingly sitting around a group of us {NW} Talking about the wars being the cause and all this other good stuff and um {NW} That was the first time I had ever heard it referred to as the war of northern aggression Interviewer: Well getting back to ranks general whatever the old gentleman who peddles Kentucky Fried Chicken he's the 185: He's the colonel Interviewer: Yeah 185: {NW} Lawyers at home are also referred to as colonels Interviewer: Hmm why is that 185: Um {NW} Well supposedly they were all colonels In the c- in the um civil war That no lawyer who went to war had a rank of less than colonel Interviewer: Hmm 185: And so As um out of Some sort of funny notion of respect Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: They're referred to as colonels {NW} This is beginning to change Um The lawyers at home now Some people refer to them as colonel as colonel so and so {NW} But generally they they just refer to them as Mister so and so or by their first name Interviewer: That is interesting I have never run across that before and say the rank of a of a man who's in charge of a ship he would be the 185: The captain Interviewer: And uh the man who presides over the county court that's 185: That's the judge Interviewer: And someone well you know like us who's going to school or goes to college he's a 185: A student Interviewer: And a woman who would do the boss's typing take care of his mail that sort of thing she's a 185: The secretary Interviewer: Uh say uh you know a man who appears uh in movies or on stage whatever he would be an actor but a woman is 185: An actress Interviewer: And our nationality we are 185: Americans Interviewer: And uh uh years ago in the south used to have separate facilities for the two races one for the 185: Blacks Interviewer: And 185: One for the whites Interviewer: Any idea of what uh well you said blacks do you suppose that's what they would prefer to be called nowadays 185: That's what they would prefer to be called nowadays um {NW} My parents {NW} Started me out the nice term was to refer to them as colored people Um the not nice term was of course nigger And um Now I just basically started calling everyone black because That's what {NW} Is currently accepted {NW} Um But for years we always referred to them as colored people Interviewer: Have you ever heard anyone use in any situation back home any other insulting terms other than nigger that you can think of 185: Not that I can think of no Interviewer: What about coon 185: Yeah And crow too Interviewer: Crow what about burrhead 185: Yeah Interviewer: You've heard 185: Yeah I've heard burrhead Interviewer: Okay um say uh this situation if a white man were really angry with another white man 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Can you think of any term that he might use uh insultingly or have or that would have something you know racial about it 185: Um Interviewer: White man to another 185: You could call him a nigger lover Interviewer: Nigger lover 185: Um The {NW} The possibilities are infinite there Interviewer: {NW} 185: That's the one That pops into my to my mind immediately Um You could say that he had a black ancestor around somewhere Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: Um That's those are the first two things that I that I can immediately think of Interviewer: Well what about a black man's terms that he might use insultingly in talking about a white man 185: Oh He would Well now he he he would refer to them as honkies Interviewer: Honky 185: Whitey Interviewer: Whitey the term uh are there any other terms that you can think of off the top of your head that would be associated with white people in um any form or fashion that might be considered sometimes a derogatory expression 185: Those are the two that I'm most familiar with there are probably probably others that I just don't know Interviewer: Do you ever hear the word cracker used 185: {NW} Um No Interviewer: Do you have any conception of what somebody would mean if he used that 185: Yeah um A poor white farmer Interviewer: I see well say uh somebody you know sometimes people come into town where I'm from usually on the weekends from way back out where you know 185: Right Interviewer: Usually pretty conspicuous 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: You ever heard people tease them you know call them anything in particular 185: {NW} I've never heard them being teased Interviewer: Have you ever heard any term at all or do you know of any so and so he's just an old 185: And old hick maybe but um Why I I've I I I've I've never heard anyone Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: That that's happened to Interviewer: Yeah do people ever say uh hoosier you old country hoosier 185: No Interviewer: Haven't heard of that or say uh uh a child that's born to racially mixed parents have you ever heard any terms for a child like that 185: It'd be a mulatto um Maybe a {X} Interviewer: Or any terms for say uh if I were working or maybe a lower class white man what might he call the man that he works for say if he were a laborer the man that he works for he might call him his 185: His boss Um His not re- he wouldn't really call him his employer his boss was boss man Interviewer: Would uh would a black's term be any different 185: {NW} I wouldn't think so I think it'd be {NW} Um the black would probably refer to him as um Just say boss But Bla- the white man would either say {NW} Say mister So and so is his last name or just call him say um Mister {D: auto} Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: Using his first name Interviewer: I see ever heard if blacks use captain there cap 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Word for him 185: Mm-hmm I ha- I've heard I've heard a few old people Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: Um Use captain Interviewer: Say podunk have you ever heard that used to describe a person he's so podunk or he's from podunk 185: Mm-hmm Usually he's from podunk Podunk U or That sort of thing that's what we used to call the high school Interviewer: {X} What say this expression if it's if it's not quite midnight and somebody asks you what time it is you might say well it's not quite but it's 185: Just about Interviewer: Anything else that you might say there it's just about or it's 185: It's Almost Interviewer: Or say if you're trying to walk on ice over ground something like that you might say well that ice was hard to walk on I managed to keep my balanced but I fell down two or three times 185: I almost Interviewer: Or say if somebody is uh is uh waiting on you to get ready so that you can go somewhere he might call out to you say aren't you ready yet you might say well just hold your horses I'll be with you in 185: Just a minute Interviewer: Or if you want to know the the distance say and travel to a particular place you might ask somebody well how 185: How far is Interviewer: Or if you're trying to point out something in the room to me and I'm just looking all around here I just can't see it and it's in plain sight you might say well 185: There it is Interviewer: Mm-hmm or maybe 185: It's over there or it's right there Interviewer: Or look here 185: Mm-hmm Yeah look here Interviewer: You ever heard people use that expression if they were provoked with somebody you know maybe a young child you might say now look here 185: Yeah I've heard I've I I've heard them use it as As that Interviewer: Or if you want to know how many times about something you'd ask well how 185: How many Interviewer: Or or how say if something is habitual how 185: How long Interviewer: Or if you if this person goes to town so many times a week I might ask well how 185: How often Interviewer: Or say I say something like uh well I'm not going to vote for for Ford for president if you agree with me you might say well am I 185: Neither am I Interviewer: A few parts of the body that I want to ask you about this part right up here you call that 185: That's your forehead Interviewer: And uh this is your 185: Hair Interviewer: You let it grow out you're growing a 185: A beard Interviewer: Heard people call it anything else 185: Besides a beard No Interviewer: Whiskers 185: Oh yeah whiskers Interviewer: And this is my 185: That's your ear Interviewer: This one is my reoriented 185: It's your left ear Interviewer: And that's 185: Your right ear Interviewer: And this is my whole thing 185: Your face Interviewer: Somebody'll bust you in the 185: In the mouth Interviewer: And uh this part right here talking about people might break their 185: Their neck Interviewer: Mm-hmm and right here this is your 185: Your throat Interviewer: I know you can't see mine but some people in some people it's pretty prominent 185: Their Adam's apple Interviewer: Yeah yeah heard that called anything besides Adam's apple 185: I don't think so Interviewer: Goozle have you ever heard that 185: {NW} I've heard goozle but I've never really known what they were referring to Interviewer: Say uh just one of these that's a 185: A tooth Interviewer: And you 185: Teeth Interviewer: And the fleshy part around them 185: Your Gums Interviewer: Mm-hmm and uh this is your 185: Hand Interviewer: And you have two 185: Two hands Interviewer: And if I make a 185: A fist Interviewer: {X} 185: Fists Interviewer: So this part 185: The palm Interviewer: Sometimes when people get older you might hear them complain that oh they got stiff aching 185: Joints Interviewer: And the upper part of a man's body that would be 185: His chest Interviewer: And these are your 185: Shoulders Interviewer: This is my right 185: Leg Interviewer: Yeah that's my 185: Right foot Interviewer: You got two 185: Two feet Interviewer: Now this part right here 185: That's your shin Interviewer: Yeah this any particular name for this part you know from right about here to here you might say you're squatting down 185: I can't think of any Interviewer: And what about that that term if you have to get down like this you usually say you're 185: I've got to squat Interviewer: Squat 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Anything besides uh squat down 185: Kneel Interviewer: Kneel 185: But kneel you're usually on your knees Interviewer: You ever heard somebody say hunker down 185: No Interviewer: Dig a hole or something like that 185: No Interviewer: What about haunches 185: Yeah Interviewer: Part of the body is that the part that I was describing 185: I think probably so Interviewer: Call that your haunches or say somebody who's been sick for a while but he's up and around now you might say something like well old so and so is up and about now but he still looks a little bit 185: A little bit um {NW} Probably say poor Interviewer: Little bit poor 185: Mm-hmm a little bit Little bit sick not real good Interviewer: Ever heard anybody say peaked 185: Mm-hmm My grandmother said peaked Interviewer: Mm-hmm what about puny 185: Yeah Puny Interviewer: Or poorly 185: Or poorly yeah Interviewer: Or say that a man a man who's able to lift very heavy weights you say he's very 185: He's very strong Interviewer: Okay besides that 185: Um Not referring to his ability to lift weights I wouldn't think so Interviewer: You ever heard anybody use the word stout in that context 185: Not in that context stout {NS} More Heavy set And and fat not Not necessarily as far as being able to lift heavy things Interviewer: Yeah I see or say uh somebody who always seems to have a smile on his face just never loses his temper you say he's mighty 185: Mighty happy Mighty calm Interviewer: Uh what about good natured 185: Yeah mighty good natured Interviewer: Or you know sometimes when boys reach a certain age it seems that they just bump everything just trip over their own feet and all that you say he's 185: He's clumsy Interviewer: Or maybe clumsy or uh uh awkward 185: Awkward yeah Interviewer: For that or someone I know a lot of people like this uh people who just keep on doing things that don't make any sense at all you just say he's 185: Stupid {NS} Hard headed Interviewer: Does hard headed carry with it any other specific uh you know intent 185: {NW} Hard headed um Stupid is just dumb I always think but hard headed is more like well {NW} You did it once and it didn't work And you're going to do it twice and it doesn't work so you're so so by now you're on about your fifth or sixth try it still isn't working Hard headed and stubborn are about the same Interviewer: Any other kind of headed besides hard headed that would work there 185: I can't think of anything Interviewer: Mule headed 185: Yeah mm-hmm I've heard mule headed my Grandfather's used that term Interviewer: Bull headed 185: Bull headed mm-hmm He was describing one of his grandchildren that way Interviewer: {NW} 185: Think it was me Interviewer: What about the word fool there would that be appropriate somebody who just keeps doing stupid things the word would be plain fool 185: {NW} Not if they knew not if there was a reason for them doing what they were doing A fool I u- I usually think of as Along the same lines as stupid as As not being {NW} Not really quite Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: But um A little dumb and and and no good reason To have done what you were supposed to do or or you knew better And did it anyway it'd be foolish But um If there was some good reason For you to be keep To be continually doing it I I wouldn't say that fool would apply there Interviewer: Would that be a pretty strong word 185: Yeah Interviewer: If you called somebody a fool 185: Yeah Interviewer: {X} 185: Pretty close Interviewer: Say someone who has a lot of money and likes to hang onto it you'd say he's an old 185: Tightwad Yeah you up and up and there's one man in town {NW} I've heard it was said that every time he opened his wallet a moth flew out Interviewer: {NW} That's pretty bad if you were to use the word common about somebody uh what would you mean by that 185: That they were common Um That they um Weren't real high class didn't have a whole lot of social standing Um It's it's is it it's basically Depending on It's basically a derogatory term Interviewer: If I my grandmother had good context for that was unmistakable said oh alright she's just common {X} Put it in the right 185: That put that that that puts it pretty close to what it is Interviewer: Would you ever use that term when describing somebody uh who you thought as just an average ordinary person 185: I wouldn't no Um Common you usually I I usually associate with someone Who considers himself To be high class Referring to other people Interviewer: Yeah I see well say uh an elderly person maybe a woman who's in her nineties but she still had people to look after herself do all the cooking that sort of thing you might say well I don't care how old she is she's still mighty 185: She's still mighty bright mighty alert Mighty capable Interviewer: Have you ever heard anybody say something like well so and so is still mighty spry 185: Yeah Yeah still mighty spry Interviewer: Or say if um a woman's children are out late at night uh and uh she might say something like well I don't suppose they did anything wrong but I just can't help feeling a little 185: A little troubled A little worried Interviewer: Yeah or you wouldn't say she feels easy about it you'd say 185: She feels uneasy Interviewer: Or a person who say a child who doesn't want to go upstairs in the dark you say he's 185: He's scared Interviewer: Anything besides scared 185: He's afraid of the dark Um frightened Interviewer: Any particular terms for a child who frightens very easily 185: A fraidy cat Interviewer: A fraidy cat the uh uh oh say a person who leaves a lot of money out in plain sight leaves his door unlocked you'd say he was awfully 185: Awfully dumb Interviewer: Yeah 185: He's um Awfully brave Interviewer: Brave or 185: Awfully foolish Um Interviewer: He's not careful with it 185: He's careless Interviewer: Say uh I might have an Aunt Lizzy say there's nothing really wrong with Aunt Lizzy it's just that every now and then she acts a little 185: A little strange Interviewer: {NW} 185: A little batty Interviewer: Yeah yeah yeah 185: I have an aunt like that Interviewer: Is that 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Maybe the old arteries are going 185: Yeah the arteries are going in a hurry Interviewer: Would nowadays or whenever can you recall people ever using the word queer in that context 185: Mm-hmm my grand my grandmother uses it {NW} In that context and um You have to like shift in and out of a generational difference Interviewer: Yeah 185: And um She uses gay also {NW} And so and so it seemed rather gay today Interviewer: {NW} 185: You know I Interviewer: {NW} 185: I was there with my brother and his wife And we just would have looked at each other like Interviewer: {NW} Wonder if there's any way of tactfully 185: Explaining that I don't think so I don't think so Interviewer: If you were to use that word queer you would 185: I I'd be referring to a homosexual Interviewer: When you were talking of gay 185: The same thing Interviewer: Say a a a person or somebody you just can't joke with them without him losing his temper you'd say he's mighty 185: He's mighty short tempered mighty hot headed Interviewer: Would people be likely to say touchy there he's kind of a touchy fellow 185: Yeah Mm-hmm Interviewer: Use that one 185: Could be used there Interviewer: Do you hear that much now and then 185: Um Not too much I don't think Interviewer: Hmm probably less so than what you mentioned 185: Yeah Interviewer: Or say somebody like that uh you might say well I was just kidding I didn't know he'd get 185: He'd get mad Interviewer: Again somebody like that if they're about to lose their temper you don't want them to you might say well now just 185: Just cool it just cool off Just hold it Calm down Interviewer: Yeah or say somebody's been working all day at the end of the day you say he's 185: He's mighty tired Interviewer: Or if he were you know extremely tired you'd say he's all 185: Exhausted Interviewer: Anything besides that exhausted or uh something that might mean the same thing 185: Um I've heard I've heard it said of small children when they've been playing all day then they get through it they're all tuckered out Interviewer: All tuckered out yeah worn out 185: Yeah worn out Interviewer: Pooped 185: Yeah Pooped Interviewer: Shot 185: Shot Interviewer: There are a lot of good ones for that destroyed 185: Yes Interviewer: {X} 185: {X} With a T Interviewer: Yeah right say uh if you hear somebody's in the hospital uh you might say something like well he was looking fine yesterday when was it he 185: He got sick Interviewer: Or say uh this expression if you were going somewhere and you weren't in any particular hurry to get there you might say oh we'll get there 185: Sooner or later Interviewer: Ever heard anybody use the expression by and by to mean that 185: Mm-hmm I have Interviewer: Uh say somebody who got you know overheated and they chilled and his eyes started watering and his nose running you'd say he 185: He's got a cold Interviewer: Or uh if it affected his voice you know say I'm just a little bit 185: Little bit hoarse Interviewer: And if I do that I've got a 185: A cold a sore throat a cough Interviewer: Or I might say well I better go to bed I'm feeling a little bit 185: Sleepy Interviewer: But at seven o clock in the morning I'll 185: Be wide awake Interviewer: Or talking about another person who's still sleeping you might say well better go 185: Wake him up Interviewer: Say if uh uh if I wanted to send you to somebody else with a package or something like this I might ask you will you please this to so and so 185: Take this Interviewer: And the past of that would be 185: I took it Interviewer: And I have 185: Taken it Interviewer: And if somebody who uh just about can't hear anything at all you'd say he's stone 185: Deaf Interviewer: You get out in the hot sun start working it's not long before you begin to 185: Sweat Interviewer: Anything besides that 185: Mm-mm Interviewer: Do you ever hear anybody say perspire 185: No you always sweat In south Georgia in the summer you sweat Interviewer: Do dainty old ladies ever say sweat little old ladies with blue hair 185: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 185: Speaking of little old ladies with blue hair that that's one thing my my mother always wanted was a blue rinse on her hair Interviewer: {NW} 185: And now they're out of fashion {NW} I don't think little old gentile ladies sweat Interviewer: Yeah well I 185: At worst at at most they might perspire or get a little warm Interviewer: Yeah right I I found out a distinction when I was in Arkansas lady told me that horses sweat men perspire and ladies glistened so 185: Oh Interviewer: Might inform some people {X} That ever comes up sometimes these places some people get on their skin they usually have kind of little kind of white dot in the middle kind of red mash them you know get that stuff out 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Call that 185: That's a hickey Interviewer: A hickey 185: Or a pimple Interviewer: Anything besides that uh that you might have heard them called {X} What do you say you do to water when you bring it to its 185: A boil Interviewer: Yeah 185: Yeah they can be boils Interviewer: And that stuff that I was talking about the white stuff 185: Pus Interviewer: Or say if somebody got uh bit on their finger you'd say it began to 185: To swell Interviewer: The past of that yesterday it 185: It swelled Interviewer: And it's 185: It's been swollen or it swelled Interviewer: Yeah uh these blisters that some people get on their hand do you have any idea what that stuff inside 185: The liquid the fluid Interviewer: What do people call that 185: Water I think Interviewer: Or say if uh somebody accidentally got shot or stabbed you might take him to the doctor so that the doctor could treat the 185: The wound Interviewer: You ever heard you know if a place like that didn't heal cleanly you might get some kind of white flaky flesh forming around have you ever heard that called any kind of flesh in particular 185: Proud flesh Interviewer: Proud flesh 185: Mm-hmm Um Interviewer: Was it accurate what I was describing 185: I think so Um That's a term from my grandmother's generation proud flesh Um I heard our doctor refer to it as proud flesh I think that's what he was talking about I don't know {NW} My brother got his Foot cut one time One summer And it tried to get infected And he referred to something as proud flesh Interviewer: Uh and this stuff if you had a cut you might get it out of your medicine cabinet and put it on it to prevent infection kind of brown liquid 185: Some mercurochrome Interviewer: Yeah that 185: Or some iodine Interviewer: Yeah and this stuff that people used to take for malaria you know a white bitter powder 185: Quinine Interviewer: What's that 185: Quinine Interviewer: Never seen it 185: I've never seen it either We always Drink gin and tonic for that Interviewer: {NW} Uh talking about say someone who died can you think of any other expression joking or otherwise that you've heard old so and so finally 185: Kicked the bucket um Blacks always say that somebody passed Interviewer: Passed 185: Uh-huh We say that they passed on That they've gone to their reward Interviewer: Uh what about uh so and so cast in his chips 185: Yeah Interviewer: Heard that 185: Yeah cashed in his chips Interviewer: I heard one fellow tell me told me he had been iced 185: {NW} #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 185: Very interesting term Interviewer: Yeah uh one I haven't quite figured out he {X} 185: Uh-uh Interviewer: Neither have I 185: No I don't either Interviewer: Say somebody who's who's been dead you might say well so and so been dead a week now nobody has yet figured out what he 185: What he died of Interviewer: And the place that people are buried you call that 185: That's the cemetery {NW} Um Sometimes it's referred to as the burying ground Interviewer: What about graveyard 185: The graveyard yeah Interviewer: Would it make any difference what you called it if it were a say just a private place 185: It Interviewer: Maybe out in the country 185: It'd be it'd be their family cemetery the family burying ground family burial ground Interviewer: And uh the the box that the body is placed 185: Is the coffin Interviewer: And besides that 185: Um No Interviewer: The casket 185: Oh yeah the casket Yeah Interviewer: And the uh 185: Casket is used more often than coffin Interviewer: Mm-hmm I see well say uh I don't know if it's done too much nowadays but uh people at a funeral who are dressed in black you say they're in 185: They're in mourning Interviewer: This expression say if somebody just met you on the street on an average day and asked you how you're feeling what would you probably say 185: I'm fine Interviewer: Or uh uh when people get older they complain that uh their joints are stiff and aching they say got a little touch of 185: A little touch of arthritis Interviewer: Anything besides that 185: Um Sometimes it's pronounced arthritis Interviewer: Arthritis 185: And rheu- and um rheumatism Or the {D: rheumatis} Interviewer: The {D: rheumatis} is that the same thing as the misery ever heard that 185: I've heard of the miseries but I don't know what the miseries are Interviewer: {X} Say this uh you don't hear about this disease too much anymore but children used to die of it they get sores you know in their throat wouldn't be able to breathe it would kind of strangle them 185: Diphtheria Interviewer: Or another disease that causes your skin to turn yellow 185: Oh jaundice Interviewer: Just just jaundice for that have you ever heard anything 185: Um Yellow jaundice Interviewer: Or say if if somebody were getting a very severe pain right around here they'd probably be having a 185: Appendicitis {NS} Interviewer: Or if somebody ate something that disagreed with them and came back up you'd say he had to 185: He had to throw up or he had to vomit Interviewer: Any uh less gentile expressions for that that you can recall 185: Less gentile Interviewer: More on the crude side 185: Um he had to barf Interviewer: He had to barf uh 185: Had to puke Interviewer: Puke yeah yeah there are some good ones for that too can you think of anything else for that 185: He had to urp Interviewer: To urp 185: Yeah Interviewer: {X} 185: Had to heave Interviewer: {NW} These are all so terrific 185: Very descriptive Interviewer: Right yeah uh that lady in Arkadelphia she said she was kind of she was in I guess late forties or something like that when she was in college and I guess it was the fifties she said for that uh somebody had too much to drink they had to go flash 185: Yeah Interviewer: You've heard 185: Yeah I've heard that but um {NW} And I've heard it referred to As having to um As when you've had Too much to drink {NW} But it's a frat term Interviewer: Hmm 185: I'd pick it up over at the Chi Phi house here Yeah Interviewer: That's interesting I wonder what the association it's had with a fraternity I should have asked if she were in a sorority I guess 185: You know I don't know that it's a fraternity term but that's where I first heard it Interviewer: That's interesting well someone like that you say he's sick where 185: In the to the stomach or sick on his stomach Interviewer: What do you use naturally do you have any idea so and so what or I'm sick 185: I just say I'm sick Interviewer: Just sick 185: Yeah Interviewer: Say uh oh these in uh you're in grammar school taking traditional grammar to indicate future they'd always distinguish between these modals or helping verbs they'd call them 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: First person you're always supposed to say something and the rest of them you said something else do you know what I'm talking about to indicate future time 185: Will and will be and all those Interviewer: Yeah 185: Okay Interviewer: So you say he will go but I you guys must have used will for I first person 185: I shall Interviewer: Yeah 185: I shall yeah Interviewer: Do you ever use that naturally 185: Um Probably not Probably not I usually {NW} I find myself that um When I consciously pay attention to what I'm saying I tend to be Pretty Strict about the grammar things like that And I I know that sometimes I will consciously use shall Interviewer: Mm-hmm 185: But I think that I usually use will Interviewer: Mm-hmm or contracted I'll 185: Yeah Mm-hmm Interviewer: Say uh if a if a young fellow keeps going to the same girl's house you know 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Very frequently people figure he's getting serious about her what would you say he's in the process of doing he's 185: He's courting Or he's they'd say now that he's dating Interviewer: Anything besides that you ever heard to mean the same thing courting dating 185: I can't think of any right now Interviewer: Ever heard anybody actually say sparking 185: No Interviewer: Are you familiar with that 185: No Not at all familiar Interviewer: What would you say that uh that's pretty bad I got three 185: Right and you missed them all Interviewer: What would you call what would you say he was he would be her 185: Her um her boyfriend Interviewer: Yeah 185: Provided provided that she cared for him Interviewer: Yeah and she would be his 185: His girlfriend Interviewer: Or say if if uh he came home late at night and his little brother found lipstick all of his collar said ah you've been 185: You've been smooching Interviewer: Anything besides that you've ever heard used smooching 185: Necking Interviewer: Necking 185: Petting Interviewer: Petting making out 185: Yeah Interviewer: Kissing 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Or say if uh if he asks her uh if he was really getting serious you say well why let's get 185: Let's get married Interviewer: But if say it turns out she doesn't want him you'd say she did what to him 185: She jilted him Interviewer: Or if on the other hand they went ahead and got married at the ceremony the the man who stands up with the groom you call him the 185: The best man Interviewer: What about the equivalent for the bride 185: Um I guess it'd be either the matron or the maid of honor Interviewer: What's the difference 185: Matron of honor is married maid of honor's a single woman Interviewer: I think this came up in conversation I'm not sure but you ever heard of any particular terms for a very noisy ceremony after a wedding let's say a lot of people might if the couple's not going on a honeymoon a lot of people follow them back to the house and just raise all kinds of hell uh you don't really hear about it too much anymore but these used to get almost violent firing shotguns 185: Was Interviewer: Pulling dirty tricks on them the couple you know 185: Um This isn't the reception no this is not the reception Interviewer: Unusual 185: Um No I've never heard that Interviewer: You ever heard the term chivaree 185: No Interviewer: Or serenade 185: No It sounds like a Louisiana term Interviewer: I'm not sure I ran into it in Tennessee Arkansas it seemed the further west I got the more familiar they were with it 185: Uh Interviewer: Had eight people tell me they would pull stuff like kidnap the groom and handcuff him to a light post he'd have to spend the night you know like that just you know terrible say if you were in uh in Knoxville over the weekend and while you were there you saw somebody behind you when you came back you were telling me about it later 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: You'd say well I saw so and so 185: This weekend Interviewer: And referring to the place you say I saw so and so 185: In Knoxville Interviewer: Or or maybe if you were in Miami and the same thing occurred and you were telling me about it later what would you say 185: I'd say that I saw so and so in Miami Interviewer: Okay do you ever hear or do you know if you yourself ever use something like well I saw so and so up at Knoxville I saw so and so down in Miami 185: I probably do but I'm not sure Interviewer: In other words location 185: As Interviewer: Make a difference 185: {NW} Um I don't know I don't know if I ev- if I use up in and down in Interviewer: Yeah 185: Or over in Interviewer: What about if if somebody were came to your house looking for somebody and he wasn't at at uh your house but say maybe uh a few houses beyond your house 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: You might say well he's not here he's 185: He's um I'd probably say he's over at Interviewer: Yeah 185: So I probably do use up in and down in {NW} I'd say he's over at say John's And then tell him how to get there Interviewer: I see or say if you were having uh if there were a party going on and somebody or the neighbors uh got a little bit upset and called the police when they police came over they didn't arrest just one person they arrested the 185: They arrested everybody Interviewer: Or the crowd 185: The crowd They arrested Interviewer: If you were emphasizing the fact that it's you know everybody involved they arrested the 185: The whole Interviewer: And at a party you might have a either a man or plan somebody to place the stereo and you'd you'd have a to the music the couples get out 185: And dance Interviewer: What about the names of a few dances that you're familiar with any 185: I'm not familiar with any with any the only I can think of is the hustle and that's old by now Interviewer: Yeah any old fashioned ones that uh you know now not necessarily old fashioned but in earlier time 185: Oh yeah waltz Foxtrot Jitterbug Charleston That's all I can think of now Interviewer: Say uh if children get out of school at three o clock you say that at three o clock school does what 185: School's over or school lets out Interviewer: Or say if you're in summertime school has not been in session uh somebody might ask toward the end of summer when does the school 185: Let in or when does school begin Interviewer: Or some somebody say a boy who left home supposedly going to school and never got there on purpose you'd say he did what 185: He ran away Interviewer: Ran away or any other expression uh specifically used for that situation 185: That he Interviewer: Going to school 185: And never made it Interviewer: Yeah deliberately 185: Just that he left home I I can't think of any Interviewer: Played hooky 185: Oh oh oh Yeah yeah oh I see what you're doing I was think okay I thought you meant like by going to school you meant to college I'm sorry Interviewer: I see 185: I'm sorry okay yeah he played hooky Interviewer: That's pretty natural 185: Yeah Interviewer: Natural to you 185: Yeah Interviewer: What about if you just don't go to class here at college you say 185: I just slept in Interviewer: Just what 185: Slept in Interviewer: Slept in hmm does that refer to the fact that you uh stayed in the dorm or something 185: Oh it just usually you'd wake up and look at your watch and go oh {NW} Roll over wake up a couple of hours later and your classes are over Interviewer: Yeah well what if I cut class 185: Yeah I cut class Interviewer: That phrase 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Uh and you say that people go to school to get a 185: An education Interviewer: And after after kindergarten the grade that you go into that's the 185: First grade Interviewer: And these things that that we have in the classrooms here that you sit in you call them 185: Desks Interviewer: And singular would be just 185: A desk Interviewer: A few buildings around town common buildings if you want to uh check out a book you go to the 185: To the library Interviewer: And if you want to mail a package 185: You go to the post office Interviewer: An if you have to stay overnight in a strange town you'd go to the 185: To the motel or the hotel Interviewer: Or if you wanted to see a a movie or a play something like that you'd go to the 185: The theater Interviewer: And say if you got sick and had to go to the hospital the woman who takes care of you she's the 185: The nurse Interviewer: And if you had to catch a train you'd go down to the 185: To the depot Interviewer: Any other term mean the same thing 185: The train station Interviewer: The train station or the the rail anything with the rail in it that you might 185: May- may- may- maybe {NW} Railroad station Interviewer: Railroad station 185: Yeah Interviewer: What about if you had to catch a bus 185: The bus station Interviewer: Sometimes I don't know if it still is like this but uh usually the the business district sometimes is arranged around an area like so where the courthouse might be right in the center 185: Yeah Interviewer: Seem kinda like 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: What do you call that area 185: That's um the courthouse square Interviewer: Courthouse square 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Ever just court square you heard that 185: Never just court square always just courthouse square Interviewer: Or say if uh 185: Azul is not arranged that way but Nashville which is thirty miles south from us is Interviewer: I see or say if uh downtown a building uh say with one building here there might be a building right here and then another one like so in relation to this building you'd say that this building is 185: Is catty corner Interviewer: Um these things that used to be use for transportation that ran from wires overhead and on rails 185: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Call those you know in San Fransisco 185: Um Street cars Interviewer: Street cars anything besides that 185: Um I can't think of any Interviewer: Trolley 185: Yeah trolleys Interviewer: Or say if you were riding on a bus you might tell the driver well the next uh corner is where I'll {X}