Interviewer: {NS} Is it {X} 252: Usually about twelve fourteen feet long Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: That's why we call 'em bateaus. Interviewer: It's Is it pointed or #1 flat? # 252: #2 It's pointed. # Interviewer: Pointed at one end or both end? 252: No One end flat and square in the middle Interviewer: Uh-huh. And um Say if a if a child was just learning to dress themself the mother would bring in the clothes and tell 'em Here Put your clothes here. 252: Hmm. Interviewer: How'd she say that? 252: Put 'em on. Interviewer: Well she hands it to him. She says here 252: Dress Dress yourself. Interviewer: Would you say here is your clothes or here are your clothes 252: Here are your clothes? Interviewer: Okay. And Say if you were taking a child to the dentist and he was scared the dentist might say you don't need to be scared I 252: #1 I'm not gonna hurt you. # Interviewer: #2 what? # Mm-kay. Do you ever use the word ain't? 252: I use it all the time. Interviewer: How do you use it? 252: I ain't gonna do that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: I'm not I ain't bout to. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And Say if I ask you was that you I saw in town yesterday you might say no it? 252: Hell no that was somebody else Interviewer: But it what 252: But it what? Interviewer: But You say it wasn't I or it wasn't me? 252: It's not it ain't me. You know hell no. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 252: Especially if you caught me some other woman Hell no that ain't me. Interviewer: And Say if a woman wanted to buy a dress for a certain color She'd take along a little square of cloth to use as a? 252: Example. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And Something that a woman would wear over her dress in the kitchen? 252: It's an apron. Interviewer: And you sign your name in ink you'd use a? 252: {NS} Pen. Interviewer: And to hold the baby's diaper in place? 252: A pin. Interviewer: Do you pronounce those words the 252: #1 Safety # Interviewer: #2 same? # 252: pin. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And soup that you buy comes in a can made out of? 252: Tin. Interviewer: And a dime is worth? 252: Ten cent. Interviewer: And what would a man wear to church on Sunday? 252: He might go as a stripper. Interviewer: {NW} 252: {NW} A streaker. {NW} They streaking all over the place. He's liable to streak through the church. Interviewer: Have you had streakers down here? 252: Not yet but we expecting some any time. Interviewer: I guess in the summer you'll 252: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 you get some. # Well if he was dressed up though what would he be wearing? 252: A suit. Interviewer: And if he just bought it It would be a brand? 252: New suit Interviewer: Do you remember when they had the three piece suit? 252: Oh yeah. Interviewer: What what were the pieces of that? 252: Oh your your coat your pants and your vest. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Do you ever hear another name for vest? 252: I'm not sure. Interviewer: Do you ever hear it called a weskit? 252: No. Interviewer: What about another name for pants? 252: Your britches Interviewer: Mm-kay. Did Do you use that word? now? 252: No Now I don't tell Francis to buy me some britches No I told her to get me #1 them pants. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # What about something that um you see climbers wear. #1 Because # 252: #2 Overalls. # Interviewer: Uh-huh and If you went outside without your coat you were getting cold and you wanted it you'd say run inside and what me my coat? 252: Get me my coat. Interviewer: And what it to me? 252: And bring it to me. Interviewer: Okay. So you'd say so you went inside the house and he 252: Got his coat Interviewer: And? what it out to me. 252: Brought it out to me. Interviewer: And say here I have 252: Brought you your underwear. {NW} Interviewer: Okay And if you stuff a lot of things in your pockets it makes them? 252: Makes 'em bulge. Interviewer: And you say that shirt used to fit me until I washed it and it? 252: Shrunk. Interviewer: And every shirt I've washed recently has? 252: Shrunk. Interviewer: And I hope this shirt won't? 252: Shrink no more. Interviewer: And if a woman likes to put on good clothes you'd say she likes to 252: Dress up Interviewer: Mm-kay. Could you say that about a man? 252: Mm Well uh You use it a little different. He chics out. Interviewer: He chics out? 252: Yeah. Interviewer: But What about if a woman likes to stand in front of the mirror you know and 252: Yeah and chic. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You say that about a woman? 252: Yeah. Interviewer: Do you ever say primp 252: #1 Primping # Interviewer: #2 or doll-up? # Uh-huh. 252: Primp mostly It's the right expression. Interviewer: Would you say that about a man? 252: No he chics. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: #1 Didn't you know # Interviewer: #2 Do you ever # 252: {D:I was a chic in the bar in sands} Auxiliary: {D: She hadn't came out of the bar.} 252: No. {NW} Interviewer: What What do you think she {NW} How did you get that back? 252: {NW} I don't know. Interviewer: {NW} 252: Did you look at the card inside? Interviewer: Inside this? 252: {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Do you shoot pool? {NS} 252: I used to. Interviewer: Were you very good? 252: At one time I was average. I could hold my own. Interviewer: You don't ever shoot anymore? 252: Hardly ever. There's a lot of things I don't do anymore. Interviewer: Oh Talking about a a man who um you know dresses very well and all Do you ever hear it called the jellybean? 252: No I called it heard 'em call it {D: Geegly or geegio} Interviewer: Uh-huh What did that mean? Someone who's? 252: {NS} Chic. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And something that people used to carry money in? 252: Pouches. Interviewer: What's something that a woman would have nowadays? 252: Satchel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Auxiliary: {X} 252: {NW} Interviewer: What about little things for coins? For your coins? 252: Pouch. Interviewer: Or something like this? 252: Mm-hmm. Pocket book. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And something that a woman wears around her wrist? 252: They wear a watch around their wrists and they usually put a ring in the other one's nose. Interviewer: {NW} 252: You gonna have {X}. {NW} Interviewer: What what about just a piece of jewelry a woman could wear around her wrist? 252: Bracelet. Interviewer: And something around her neck? 252: Beads. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Would you call that a string of beads? 252: string of beads. a string of beads. Interviewer: And something men used to wear to hold up their pants? 252: Suspenders. Interviewer: And some- 252: When you get a belly like on I got you don't need new ones see. {NW} Interviewer: What about something you hold over you when it rains? 252: Tent. Interviewer: Or? 252: Umbrella. Interviewer: And the last thing that you put on the bed the fancy cover 252: That's a bedspread. Interviewer: Mm-kay. What about something that women used to make? 252: Quilts yeah. Interviewer: And at the head of the bed you put your head on a? 252: Block of wood stone pillow? Interviewer: Mm-kay. Do you remember anything about twice as long as a pillow? A sort of pillow only twice as long? 252: No. Interviewer: Do you ever hear of a bolster? 252: No. Interviewer: And if you had a lot of company and didn't have a lot of beds for everyone for the children to 252: They slept on the floor. Interviewer: Mm-kay What would you make for 'em? from the? 252: Pallets. Interviewer: And Say if um you raise a lot of corn you say we raised a big? 252: Batch of corn. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Or another word you could use? 252: Peel the corn. Interviewer: Or a good? 252: Crop of corn. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And What different kinds of lands do they have around here? 252: Marsh mud sand. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: That's what we got out here. Sand. Interviewer: What's a marsh? Is that salt water? 252: That's the salt water that's on the edge of your waterfront. Muddy. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Nothing grows there right? 252: Your marsh. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Marsh grass That's all about all that grows out there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about the kind of um soil that they have you know on the farming areas. You know? 252: I only know what I know. I'm not no farmer. Interviewer: Do you ever hear of anything called loam? or loam? 252: No. Interviewer: What about the You said we'd We expect to get a big crop from that field because the soil is very? 252: Poor. Interviewer: Or the opposite or poor? You'd say the soil is very? 252: Very Good. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And The plant low land along a stream that's flooded over that's good for planting you'd call that? 252: I don't know. What do you call it? Interviewer: Did you ever hear of bottom land or? 252: #1 Bottom land yeah # Interviewer: #2 low land or # 252: low land, bottom land. Interviewer: What's that like? Do you have any around here? 252: It's damp. It's low land. Come in look at the little parakeet. Damn all them silly questions you asked me. Come out here and look at my birds. This little para- come around little further see him sitting right by the water pan? Interviewer: Huh. How did he get out there? 252: I don't know. He just come in yesterday. You see 'em? Interviewer: Yeah. 252: Isn't that thing pretty? Interviewer: Yeah that's nice. What kind of bird is that with the red or a? 252: Black that's what they call a red winged black bird. Interviewer: Um The place that a field is a grassy field that some maybe good for raising hay or something but not much good for #1 anything else. # 252: #2 Good for cattle. # Interviewer: #1 # 252: #2 # Interviewer: Do you ever hear that called a prairie? 252: Oh yeah. Prairie. Interviewer: What's a prairie like? 252: A prairie it's a place where there's nothing's grown it's a flat ground put a lot of cattle on it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Grows grass. Interviewer: Is there are there prairies in in Florida? 252: Oh yeah. There's {X}. Got some up here right off Gainesville. Interviewer: What about land that's got water standing in it that and trees growing in it and? 252: It's called a pond. Interviewer: Well if it's if it's not if it's just sort of kind of like a marsh only fresh water has trees 252: Hmm. You tell me. Interviewer: Well so where would you go hunting? What would be a a 252: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 overgrown # sort of wet area. 252: Streams? Interviewer: Uh-huh. What else? 252: Duck hunting I do in this type of place. Ducks slide in it feed in it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Now what are you referring to? Interviewer: Do you ever hear of a a gal or bog or swamp or? 252: Swamp yeah sure. Interviewer: What's a how would you describe a swamp? 252: Well a swamp is different from a bog. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: A bog is a place you don't get through. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: A swamp is a place you hunt in although it can be high land and low land. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Wet and dry. Interviewer: The swamp can be dry? 252: Oh yes. Interviewer: Is it very overgrown or? 252: Mostly yes. Interviewer: Where are 252: But in certain times of the year where it's high land it's under water but in awful wet seasons. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Down here where I spent all my life hunting. That's called a swamp. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: There are many places in there that's under water there's many places in there that's a way above water. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: But we call it a swamp. Interviewer: Say if 252: That's where I killed that eight point buck. Interviewer: Oh 252: #1 Right there forty-three years ago # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 252: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 252: That down in {X}. What we call a swamp. Interviewer: {D: Gold hat} 252: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: That's about twenty miles from here or something? 252: {NW} Well it starts right out here at the parts of the road about ten miles from here. And it covers a hundred and thirty two thousand acres going Southeast. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you have some swampy land or marshy land and you wanted to get the water off you say you were gon- 252: Drain it. Interviewer: How would you do that? 252: By digging drains ditches. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about um something that bigger than a ditch what people dig? Big enough for say a small boat to go through. 252: You dig a canal. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: You drain it through a canal. But most of 'em drain it through ditches. Interviewer: Uh-huh. A canal is a whole lot bigger. 252: Well sure. Interviewer: And you had a heavy rain in the water cut out a little 252: Ditch. Interviewer: Okay. What if it's it's a real big area that the water cut out? 252: Well that's called a a ditch still but they'd square it off in a canal. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: A drain. It's drainage. All of it amounts to one thing drainage. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Do you ever talk about a wash or a hollow or a gully? 252: A wash yes. Interviewer: What's a wa-? 252: It's a wash out. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: When the water gets so heavy that it runs so hard it washes out. I just had one right down here on my land and from rain. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: The water runs so hard it washed out my boat landing and it washed the gully out. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: You have a boat landing? Oh yes. Interviewer: Is it how what size boats can you? 252: Usually small boats Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: down here on the creek. Interviewer: Um You answered the the creek what else do you have besides a creek? Around here? Is there any larger than a creek? 252: Your rivers. One of the most beautifulest rivers in the world is right up here just twelve miles northwest of here. Interviewer: Which? 252: Suwannee River. The mouth of Suwannee River it's only twelve miles from right here Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Is there anything smaller than a creek? 252: {NW} Unless you'd call 'em ditches. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about bayous? 252: Bayous there's a bayou right there. There's one right over there. Interviewer: What is 252: A bayou is a large body of shallow water mostly what it amounts to. Interviewer: It's not moving very fast? 252: No. Comes in very slow it moves very slow. Interviewer: What are the names of some of the creeks or bayous or canals or things around here? 252: Well there's like Bonnidge creek Chuck creek Griffin creek Kelly creek Interviewer: Are these fresh water or 252: #1 No # Interviewer: #2 salt water? # 252: they are salt water creeks. But they run up all of the creeks runs up in the woods. And heavy rains when you have a lot of fresh water. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: All the rivers are high. Interviewer: Suwannee river? 252: Yes. They have a lot of fresh water in it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: But in just ordinary times they are salt water creeks. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Where do they flow into? 252: The Gulf All of 'em. Interviewer: And If you had a stream that was flowing along and suddenly the it dropped off several feet in the water went on over. You'd call that a? 252: Cliff. Interviewer: What? 252: A cliff. Interviewer: Mm-kay. But where the water goes over the a? where you have water dropping down several feet. 252: A cliff. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Do you ever hear of a waterfalls that pour over or falls? 252: Yeah but we don't have 'em down here. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And 252: We're not in the Grand Canyon. No. Interviewer: Yeah. Well some of these questions 252: Yeah are very crazy silly and uncalled for. Wouldn't you say? {NW} Interviewer: Um You mentioned the the landing. Where would a a large ship come in? Would you still call it a landing? 252: No you'd call it they came in a channel. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And where would it 252: Dock. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: At It well and see the key they'd dock here. The big dock or they wouldn't dock unless they anchored. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: You can always anchor down you know out in the channel. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What What do you mean the channel? 252: Channel is a the deepest part of the place they have to travel. Interviewer: Did someone was telling me about you know those I don't even know how to explain it the they cut out areas 252: They've dredged out areas Which they bridge out the channels so larger ships can come in. Interviewer: Oh wait When they've dredged it out then you call it a channel 252: Sure. Interviewer: Oh I see. That's what those um 252: There are places in the channel that has filled up with sand. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: And you can only come up the channel so far and you go a ground. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: But they dredged them out and beat through the channel. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. The coast guard keeps up with 252: The coast guard don't do a damn thing. Interviewer: Well whose supposed to check the channels and make sure that 252: The coast guard. {NW} Interviewer: They're supposed to they just don't ever do it? 252: No they are. They don't do the dredging. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: The state does the dredging. The coast guard marks the channel out after they have dredged it. Interviewer: And puts the? 252: Stakes on it showing you which side to run on. Interviewer: That's what they colors they 252: That's the color of all those stakes. Each one of them has a meaning. If you don't know that meaning don't try to operate a boat up and down the town. Interviewer: That's interesting. I didn't 252: You didn't know that? Interviewer: No. 252: Well why you think they put a red stake here and a black stake up Interviewer: Well I knew it had 252: #1 Every one of them has # Interviewer: #2 I didn't # 252: A meaning. Interviewer: What is a the 252: The black stake means you stay on the port side of the town. The red stake means you stay on the starboard side of the town. Now if you take and go be it on the opposite side of the stake you run out there a ground. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: So you wouldn't make a very good seaman would you? Interviewer: No. 252: {NW} Interviewer: I'm afraid I don't know too much about that. If um you have some land that uh well say a small rising land where the land goes up You call that a? 252: Hill. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Any other names for it besides hill? 252: {NW} Above water {NW} Interviewer: And over the door you take hold of the door 252: Knob. Interviewer: Do you ever use that word knob talking about land? 252: No Interviewer: And something a whole lot bigger than a hill would be a? 252: Mountain. Interviewer: And You know on television the gun fighters for every man that they kill they cut a little 252: Notch in their handle Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. 252: Yeah I haven't killed but about eight or ten and I hadn't even registered on mine. Interviewer: What kinds of roads are there around here? 252: Dirt roads sand roads paved roads and rock roads. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call the white paved roads? 252: Rock roads. Interviewer: But it's paved though white. 252: I don't know you tell me. Interviewer: But do you have any roads like that around here? 252: No. Interviewer: What about a little road that goes off the main road? 252: It's a rock road. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 252: Damn sand road. Interviewer: And a road that um leads up to a person's house? 252: It's called a drive. Interviewer: Mm-kay. What about a lane? Do you ever use the wor- 252: Yeah we use the word lane but that's all always where we done our loving at and I'm getting some damn old I don't go down them lanes much more Interviewer: How big is a lane? 252: Just to about big enough to get your car down it where you can hide out there {D: You know what I wanted.} Interviewer: Does it have trees on both sides? 252: Oh it usually does where you can hide out there and do all the loving you want and then sneak back in town. Nobody sees you. You know what I mean. Interviewer: And something along the side of the street for people to walk on? 252: The cement. Interviewer: Uh-huh 252: Sidewalks yeah. Yeah. And Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 252: #2 Let me mix me my little drink don't you get crazy here. # Ask me how much more silly ass questions? Interviewer: Um Do you ever hear another name for sidewalk? Do you ever hear it called {X}? 252: What? Interviewer: {D: Ball cap.} 252: No. #1 We don't # Interviewer: #2 And # 252: call it that down here in this area. Interviewer: There's sometimes there's a strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street Do you ever hear a name for that? 252: uh-uh Interviewer: Say if um If you're walking along a road and an animal jumped out and scared you you'd say I picked up a? what? 252: Picked up animal I guess. What what the hell you referring to? Interviewer: Something and 252: A rock and throw it at 'em. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Anything else you'd say besides throwed at him? Do you ever say I chucked it or pl- 252: I've a chunked a many a things. chuck Interviewer: Okay. And if you went up to someone's house and knocked on the door and no one answered you'd say well I guess he's not? 252: At home or he's in their under the bed hiding just like I've been doing with you for the last two days. Been hiding like hell. Interviewer: And if someone was walking in your direction you say he's coming straight? 252: Towards me. Interviewer: And if you went into town and happened to see a friend of yours you hadn't counted on seeing you'd say this morning I just happened to run? 252: Run into you. Interviewer: And if a child is given the same name that her mother has you'd say they named the child? What her mother? They named the child? 252: After her mama. Interviewer: And something that people drink for breakfast? 252: Whiskey. Everybody down here drinks whiskey for breakfast. Interviewer: Well what what else besides whiskey? 252: No city water and once in a while they'll make a pot of coffee and drink it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: But they always get up drinking whiskey. Interviewer: Does everyone around? 252: Most everybody makes their own whiskey. We got a little still back there on the back of the island. Interviewer: Do you make whiskey? 252: Sure. Well you think Why you think I'm able to drink this twenty four hours a day? Interviewer: Um talking about the coffee thought about putting milk in your coffee you'd say some people like it? 252: {NW} Mm-hmm. Milk. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Some people like it their coffee? 252: With a little cream in it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: We even put that in our whiskey to start the day off and then it gets stronger. Interviewer: Cream in 252: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 whiskey? # 252: You ain't never tried that? Interviewer: Uh-uh. 252: We always put milk in it to weaken it. See I use say a mug now but I always waiting until after ten o clock. Before I even set 'em up I start myself off with milk and whiskey. Interviewer: Oh I see. Um what if you don't put anything in your coffee? 252: I use it black just like I like my women. {NW} Interviewer: Do you ever hear the expression drinking coffee barefooted? 252: Yeah. Interviewer: What does that mean? 252: Black. Interviewer: Uh 252: Nothing in there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. How would people use that expression? 252: Barefooted. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you ever hear it used about whiskey? Drinking whiskey bare- 252: Yeah that's when you drink it straight. But the way we make it out here in our little still we got like down there we make it so strong that we have to cut it with something to be able to drink it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call whiskey that you make yourself? 252: Moonshine. {NW} Interviewer: Any other names for moonshine? 252: Shine. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you ever hear it called splo? 252: {NW} No we don't call it that. Interviewer: What about beers that you make? 252: We don't make none down here. Interviewer: Never heard of anybody making 252: Making beer? Yeah. Interviewer: What do they call it? Any? 252: They called it beer. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And You tell a child now you can eat what's before you or you can do? You can eat what what's put down before you or you can just do? 252: Get on go to bed is what we tell Tracy That's our little granddaughter that she's fixing them eggs for. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And Talking about how um far something is you say well I don't know how exactly how far away it is but it's just a little? 252: Piece {NS} Yeah I've used that in many different expressions that little piece. Interviewer: Uh-huh 252: It has a lot of different expressions. It all depends on how you use it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Say you've been traveling and had about three hundred miles left to go you say you'd still had a? 252: Far piece. {NW} Interviewer: That's what you'd probably say? 252: Yeah. Interviewer: And If something was very common and you didn't have to look for it in a special place you'd say oh you can find that just about? 252: Anywhere. Interviewer: And if someone slipped and fell this way. You'd say he fell over? 252: Backward. Interviewer: And this way? 252: Forward. Interviewer: And If you had been fishing and I ask you did you catch any fish you might say no? What a one? No? 252: No not a damn thing. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you have any expression that I didn't catch nary a one? 252: I didn't catch nary a one yes many times. Interviewer: Would you use that expression your- 252: Well there's sometimes I do. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: It all depends on the situation the expressions I use. Interviewer: Say if um there's something that um we had to do today. Um the two of us you could say we'll have to do it or you could say? 252: Frances'll have to do it. {NW} Interviewer: Would would you say you and I will have to do it? 252: No I usually I'll say Frances'll do it. {NW} Interviewer: Well if you were talking about um 252: Both of us? Interviewer: Yeah. Would you say me and you have to do it? 252: I'd say me and her gotta do it Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: Mostly her. Interviewer: {NW} 252: Cuz I believe on putting the monkey on her back. {NW} Interviewer: Say if um if you knocked at the door and somebody asked who's there? And you know they recognize your voice you'd say it's? 252: It's me. Interviewer: Okay. And if it's a man you'd say it's 252: It's It's me. Interviewer: Well uh if I say is that Jim at the door? You say ya that was 252: No I If he is at the door when I usually knock on the door it's some woman's door see Interviewer: Well 252: Some widow's door and I say no that ain't me that's {NW} Interviewer: Would you say if it's a man at the door would you say that's he or that's him? 252: That's me. Interviewer: But if someone if you're talking about someone else would you say if I asked was that Bob who called a few minutes ago You'd say yeah that was. 252: Yeah that was Bob. Interviewer: Well if you don't call his name you say? 252: That was him. Interviewer: Okay if it's a woman you'd say that? 252: That was she. Interviewer: And if there's two people? 252: That was them. Interviewer: And talking about how tall you are you'd say he's not as tall? 252: As I am. Interviewer: Well I'm not as tall as ? 252: As he is. Interviewer: And he can do that better? 252: Than me. Interviewer: And I'd say this isn't mine this is? 252: Theirs. Interviewer: Or? 252: Hers. His. Interviewer: Or talking about you that's? 252: This is mine? Interviewer: Yeah this isn't mine this is? like this ash tray. It's not mine 252: That's hers. Interviewer: Or if it belongs to you I'd say it's? 252: If it didn't mine why would I say it is damn right that's mine. Interviewer: Well I would say this is isn't mine this is? 252: His. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And and about this thing you'd say? This is 252: Bunch of junk. Interviewer: Well whose is this? 252: This belongs to some kook. {NW} Interviewer: You'd say this is yours or your? 252: That's theirs or hers. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And if there was a group of people at your house and they were fixing to leave you'd say well I hope? 252: They would get their butts gone. Interviewer: Or if you talking to them you say I hope what? 252: I hope to see you couple ten years from now. Come back and see us someday. Come up and see me sometime. Interviewer: Would you say you all or y'all or? 252: Y'all come to see us sometime. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you use would you ever use the word y'all to? 252: Oh I use it all the time. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you ever use it just to one person? 252: No. Interviewer: What if there's a group and you're asking about everybody's coats you'd say where are? you're asking 'em about all of their coats you'd say where are? 252: Where're your coats? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you ever say y'all's coats or? 252: Oh I've been guilty saying a lot of them things. Where y'all's coats at? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: I want you to get gone let me help you find them. {NW}. Interviewer: And If there had been a party that you hadn't been able to go to and you were asking about the people that had gone you'd say was at the party you'd as- 252: Who was there? Interviewer: Okay. Do you ever say who all was there? 252: Who all was there a thousand times. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And if there was a group of children that obviously belonged to more than one family you'd ask about them children are they you'd say? 252: It's say that again. Interviewer: If there's a group of children that belonged to more than one family you'd ask children? 252: Who the hell do all of them younguns belong to out there? Interviewer: Would you ever say who alls children are they? 252: Well it comes out about the same way something similar. Interviewer: What what would you probably 252: Whose damn younguns is all them belong to out there? Interviewer: Mm-kay. And you were asking about a speaker's remarks You know everything he said you'd ask? Did he say? You'd ask somebody? 252: What the hell does he talking about? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you ever say what all did he say? 252: I've said that probably a thousand times. Interviewer: Oh how would you probably say that? 252: What the hell was he talking about? That's usually what I'd say. Interviewer: And you say if no one else will look out for them you say they've gotta look out for? 252: Themself. Interviewer: And if no one else will do it for him you say he better do it? 252: He better do it hisself. Interviewer: And you'd say this morning I what breakfast at seven o clock? 252: I got up and fix them kids that breakfast. Probably would have. Interviewer: And then everybody what breakfast? 252: Gets up and eats breakfast. Interviewer: Okay. And You say um yesterday by eight o clock I'd already? 252: Finished breakfast. Interviewer: I'd already what breakfast? I'd done what? 252: Already fixed breakfast. Interviewer: Uh-huh Talking about eating it You'd say I'd already? 252: Had breakfast. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And If you were real thirsty you could go over to the sink and? 252: No I go down to the bar. That's where when I get real thirsty. I just go down to the hotel at the bar. And kill that thirst. I quench that thirst. Interviewer: Well Say if I was thirsty. I'd go over to the sink and? 252: You'd probably go to the bar and get you a drink if you was thirsty. Interviewer: Well If I just went in there and go 252: You go to the spicket and get you a drink. Interviewer: And get a? 252: A glass of water. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: But after you drink what I'm drinking now you'd throw that water down and go down and get you some of what I'm drinking. Interviewer: I thought that was homemade there? 252: Well I ran out. {NW} Interviewer: Oh I see. It's better homemade huh? 252: Oh yeah. Interviewer: Um you say the glass fell off the sink and what? 252: It broke. Interviewer: Mm-kay. So you say somebody has done what to the glass? Has? 252: Broken my glass. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And someone might say well I didn't mean to? 252: Well I'd say Why in the hell don't you be more careful? Interviewer: Mm-kay. If because if you drop a glass it will? 252: Break. Interviewer: And something that um people eat for breakfast some it's made out of corn that's been ground up? 252: Yeah corn whiskey. {NW} Yeah it's ground up and it's stewed up into a mash and we drink that for breakfast every morning. Interviewer: Well what what about what people eat for breakfast? 252: Eat? I don't We eat the corn that's made out of the mash Interviewer: Uh-huh. What say people would eat bacon and eggs and what else? 252: And drink good corn liquor. Interviewer: But what what else do they eat though? Besides ba- 252: A little bread to go along with it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What kind of bread? 252: Not no corn bread for breakfast no. We eat store boughten bread. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: Light bread. Interviewer: What what do people put in light bread to make it rise? 252: Yeast. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Are there any other kinds of bread besides light bread? 252: No we put that in our whiskey too while we stilling it back there. Interviewer: How long does it take you to make whiskey? 252: About to make a good batch about two days. Interviewer: Oh that's that's a long time. 252: But we drink the skimmings to stay alive while it's getting a little age on it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you ever let it age for three days? 252: Hardly ever. Interviewer: Um What are the kinds of things that are made out of cornmeal besides corn bread? 252: Corn whiskey. Interviewer: Well kinds of bread though. 252: Besides corn bread? Interviewer: Uh-huh. What what do you make to eat with fish? 252: To eat with fish? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Well know we mill our fish. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: With corn mill. Interviewer: Is there any thing that you you make though to? 252: The corn patties? Interviewer: Uh-huh What's a corn patty like? 252: It's a bunch of corn mill stir it up in a goo and put the frying pan and made a Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: little hunk of bread. Interviewer: What about the a corn dodger? Ever hear of that? 252: {NW} I've dodged quite a many of them. Interviewer: What is that? 252: A little hunk of bread about that big around you either eat it you don't like it you throw it at somebody. That's where they get the dodger from. If he don't dodge it it knocks his brains out. Interviewer: That's what they call the? 252: Corn dodger. Interviewer: Uh-huh. It's It's just that a little round thing about 252: Yeah about that big around. Interviewer: About as big as a 252: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 silver dollar. # 252: Yeah a little bigger than that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: And mostly when you go down these restaurants and they serve 'em too Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: and they not good they overdone the fellow over there in that out there he throws it across the entire to knock the other fellows brains out with them. That's and if he don't dodge it that's where it gets the name corn dodger. Interviewer: Is that the same as a hush puppy? or a? 252: Hush puppy yeah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: But them dodgers is the one you want to watch out for. Interviewer: What about taking cornmeal and mixing it with salt and water and kind of something that you eat with a spoon? You call that? 252: No Interviewer: Do you ever hear of just taking cornmeal and salt and water and make something you can eat with a spoon? 252: Without cooking? Interviewer: Well yes cook the boiled in water. Do you ever of mush or cush cush? 252: Yeah well I don't care for that mush. No. Interviewer: Do you know how it's ma- 252: I no. Cuz I don't eat it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: But I've hear of the mush. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 252: I like them dodgers where if they don't set right you can knock the other fellow's brains out sitting there over next to you. Interviewer: Something that people make um they take um it's round it's got a hole in the center. 252: They call them doughnuts. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And something that you make up a batter and fry three or four of these for breakfast and eat 'em with butter and syrup. 252: Pancakes. Interviewer: Kay. Any other name for pancakes? 252: Not to my knowledge. Interviewer: Do you ever hear flitters or battercakes or? Anything? 252: I've heard of batter cakes but it all comes out the same thing pancakes. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And talking about how much flour might be in a sack you might say a sack might have five or ten? 252: Twenty four pounds of flour. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And 252: During the depression you could buy that for sixty cent. Interviewer: Really? 252: Oh yeah. Interviewer: Um the inside part of the egg is called a ? 252: Yolk. Interviewer: What color is that? 252: Pink and Interviewer: Mm-kay. 252: yellow. {NW} Interviewer: And if you cooked them in hot water you'd call them? 252: You like uh Easter egg too? She just cooked up a we call 'em Easter eggs. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about the way that you cook eggs and you cracked 'em and let them fall out of their shells in the hot water? Do you ever cook 'em like that? 252: In hot water? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: No. And she better not never cook me none like that either or she'll be looking for another husband. Interviewer: Um something that's kind of like a fruit pie. Only it's got several layers of fruit and dough in it. Do you ever hear of a apple slump or apple cobbler or deep apple pie? 252: Apple cobbler yeah. but I never did care for it. Interviewer: What about something that um say you could take milk or cream and mix that with sugar and nutmeg or something make a 252: #1 Well I would # Interviewer: #2 sweet treat. # 252: go down with one of these drinks I believe if you keep talking. Interviewer: What what would you call the sweet liquid that could pour over pudding or pie? 252: Whiskey. {NW} Interviewer: Well something made with milk and and sugar. 252: Sugar. Interviewer: To pour over a pudding or pie you'd call that a? 252: I'd call it a disgrace cuz I don't eat it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 252: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And if someone has a good appetite you'd say he sure likes to put away his? 252: {NW} {X} Mm puts away his appetite. Interviewer: If someone has a good appetite you say he sure likes to put away his? 252: His food. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And food taken between regular meals you call that? 252: A disgrace. {NW} Interviewer: Like it's three o clock or something you go and fix yourself something to eat you call that a? 252: I'd call it a disgrace. {NW} Interviewer: But you ever? 252: stealing Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 252: #2 {NW} # Snitching. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 252: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And something that um thick milk you call that? 252: Thick milk? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: Buttermilk. Interviewer: Well if it hasn't been churned though if you just let it get thick. 252: Honey as much whiskey as I drank I don't have much knowledge about the milk thing. Interviewer: Well do you ever remember your mother making this when you were little? 252: Buttermilk? Interviewer: Well that's 252: Churning butter. Interviewer: What's what's buttermilk before it's it's churned? 252: Cow milk. Interviewer: Uh-huh well after you can't just take regular cow milk and churn it can you? 252: I don't know. I never owned a cow and I never done much churning. Interviewer: Do you ever hear of curdled milk or clabber? 252: Clabber. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What can you make with clabber? 252: Mostly good biscuits. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Do you ever hear of making a kind of cheese from clabber? 252: {NW} Interviewer: And the first thing you have to do after milking to get the impurity out you have to. 252: Kill the cow don't you? Interviewer: Well to to get the hairs and things out of the milk you have to? 252: Drain it. Interviewer: Mm-kay. Do you ever see a hog killed? 252: Yeah a couple thousand. Interviewer: How do people do that? 252: Well the last one I kill I killed 'em with an ax. I've seen 'em shot. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. what do you do? How do you cut 'em up and? 252: Well the first thing you do is you put 'em in the hog uh pot of hot water and pull the hair off of 'em. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Then you take his guts out. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: And then you settle 'em or you eat 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there anything you can make with the guts? 252: Oh yeah. You can make a lot of damn stuff but I don't care for 'em. Hog chitlins. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: You take the liver and the lights and make one hell of a stew which I still don't care nothing about. Interviewer: What do they call that stew? Does it have a special 252: No. They just make whatever they want to out of it. Just like you would any other stew. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about the um fat meat that you can use for boiling with greens? 252: What about it? Interviewer: Does it have a special names or? 252: Yeah. Pork. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Well that that fat pork though. Do you ever hear of side meat or white bacon or fat back? 252: White bacon and fat back. Yes. Interviewer: What's the difference? 252: It's the same. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about when you um the kind of meat that you buy sliced thin to eat with eggs? 252: Well if I buy it I want some smoked bacon. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: I don't want none of this white bacon. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Fat back as you call it or salt pork is another name for it. Now there's one more question I'd like to ask you. How much longer you wanting to carry this out? Interviewer: Well I'd like to 252: {X} Interviewer: finish this tape at least. Did 252: How much longer is that gonna be? Interviewer: Um thirty forty minutes? 252: {NW} Now let's kind of cut this thing off a little short. Like the next five minutes? Interviewer: Okay. 252: Don't you think I've give you enough of my time then or? Interviewer: Well I'll cut it off whenever you want but if you don't mind talking a little bit more. 252: Okay I'll give you about five more minutes of my time and then Imma haul ass. You know what I'm at? Interviewer: Yeah. 252: Okay. Interviewer: What's um talking about kinds of animals the kind of animal that barks. 252: They call 'em dogs and wolves. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Coyotes. Interviewer: If you wanted your dog to attack another dog what would you tell 'em? 252: I don't know. Catch 'em. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 252: #1 That's what # Interviewer: #2 What do you call # 252: I'm fixing to do to my dog right now. Interviewer: {NW} 252: {NW} In a few minutes. I'm gonna tell her to get up. Interviewer: What about a mixed breed dog? Do you call him a? 252: Half-breed. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And the kind of animal that you milk? 252: Dogs? Interviewer: What kind of animal that you milk? 252: Oh I thought you still talking about dogs. Goats cows. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call the male? 252: {D:Steer} Interviewer: But in a cow? You call the {X}. 252: No. {NW} Cow. Just call 'em a cow. Interviewer: Mm-kay. What about the horse? The female is the? 252: Mare. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And 252: Just like you. Interviewer: I would be called a mare? 252: Yes. Interviewer: Okay. 252: What What would you be called a stud? Interviewer: Well no. 252: I don't think so no. Interviewer: Um what about sheep? The female is called a? 252: Sheep. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Were there many sheep around here? 252: I don't know. There ain't never been a sheep on this island not even close to it. Interviewer: What do people raise sheep for? 252: For the wool. Interviewer: And you know when hogs the stiff hairs that they have they call those? 252: {D: Razor buds} Interviewer: Mm-kay what about those stiff hairs that have them what are 252: Bristles. Interviewer: And the big teeth? 252: Tush. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And When they're um first born you call them? 252: #1 Pigs. # Interviewer: #2 We call 'em # Mm-kay. Then when they get a little older? 252: Shoats. Interviewer: Then what? What if they're male? 252: They called boars. Interviewer: Mm-kay. 252: #1 That's # Interviewer: #2 And # 252: that's what I am. Interviewer: Okay. What about the female? 252: She's called a sow. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And if you had a a pig and you didn't want it to grow up to be a boar what would you say you? 252: I'd cut 'em. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And then it'd be called a ? It'd do you ever hear a name? 252: Oh yeah. {NW} Tell me. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 252: #2 A boar. # Boar. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And do you ever hear anybody um call a cow? Do get 'em to come out of the pasture? Or call a horse? 252: Honey I ain't lived on no damn farm. How in the hell would I know what they do or not there? Interviewer: Okay. Did Did y'all have gardens? 252: Everybody had a garden. Interviewer: What did you grow in the garden? 252: We grow mustard peas turnips okra. Interviewer: What else? 252: Tomatoes. That's most of it. Interviewer: What do you call the little tomatoes? Like this? 252: Little tomatoes. Interviewer: No special name for them? 252: No we didn't have none for 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And the kind of corn that's tender enough to eat off the cob? Call that? 252: How in the hell would I know when I've been telling you for two damn days I ain't no farmer. I'm a damn fisherman. How in the hell would I know what they called it? Interviewer: But did you ever hear of sweet corn or? 252: I've heard of sweet corn and Rome tomatoes yeah. Interviewer: What kind of beans {B} What kind of beans did y'all grow? 252: String beans mostly and lima beans. Butter beans. Interviewer: Uh-huh. How do you get the butter beans out of the pods? 252: You take 'em and peel 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And the outside of the ear of corn you call 252: It's called the husk. Interviewer: Mm-kay. What about the stringy stuff on it? 252: We always called it hair. Interviewer: Mm-kay. And the thing that grows up at the top of the corn stalk? 252: What? Interviewer: The thing that grows up at the top of the corn stalk. Do you ever see that? 252: I've seen it. What do you say it is? Interviewer: Do you ever hear of tassel or? 252: Tassel yeah. The tassel. Interviewer: What kind of melons do people raise? 252: Watermelons. Interviewer: Anything else? 252: Rattlesnake? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. That's a kind of watermelon? 252: That's one yeah. Rattlesnake. Oh hell we ain't never raise no melons down here cuz they don't grow down here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And the kind of bird that can see in the dark? you know the? 252: All the birds can see in the dark. Interviewer: Well the one that comes out at night that makes scary noises. 252: {X} Interviewer: Some that you makes a scary noise around his graveyard 252: Loons. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about owls? 252: Well owls does too but the lune is a scary bird. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: You probably never heard of him. He sounds like a when he hollers at night he sounds a lot like a lady screaming. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: He sounds a lot like a panther Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: screaming. He has a long laugh scream. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: We call that a lune. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What different kinds of owls do you have around here? 252: The hooter. We got one right over there on that island across the creek. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: And he hoots all damn night long. And if I could find that son of a bitch I'd go over there and kill 'em. Interviewer: You don't like him? 252: Well would you like somebody standing round here in damn place making loud noise? Interviewer: Well no but I also {X} from getting 252: Yeah they getting scarce and that's one that'd be a little scarcer if I find 'em too. Interviewer: What is there a kind of an owl smaller than a hoot owl? 252: Not that I know of. Interviewer: Do you ever hear of squinch owl or scrooch owl? 252: Scrooch owl yeah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: Yeah he screams like something doesn't call him too. Interviewer: {NW} What about a kind of bird that drills holes in trees? 252: A woodpecker. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Are any other names for them? 252: Yeah the redheaded woodpecker. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Do you ever hear them called pecker wood? 252: Well they all comes out to same thing. They peck. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard the word peckerwood used? 252: Oh yeah. Interviewer: #1 about people or # 252: #2 yeah # yeah. Woodpecker. Peckerwood yeah. Interviewer: What is it mean to call somebody a peckerwood? 252: I never called nobody that I figure they kill me. Interviewer: Well what it's pretty bad to? 252: Yeah it means he's chicken shit. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 252: #2 That's what it means. # Interviewer: And the kind of black and white animal that has a real strong smell? 252: Is skunk. Met a lot of them that comes around the island. All the other main animals either. You got 'em you know all over the country. Interviewer: {NW} What kind of animals um would come and be a nuisance? What would you call animals like that? Like come and kill chickens if you have chickens. 252: Possums mostly. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What general name would you have for that kind of animal? 252: Possum. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you ever use the word varmint? 252: Well That's just like that one right there. That big bird that's sitting there eating. He's a damn varmint but no one will kill 'em cuz he pecks at little parakeet right there feeding outside and all them other birds. He's a varmint to me. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: That don't mean everybody sees him that way. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about a bushy tailed animal that gets up in the trees around here? Little small bushy tail? 252: I don't you mean a squirrel? Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Are there different kinds of squirrels? 252: Oh yes. You have the flying squirrel you have the fox squirrel and you have the just squirrel. That's the one they eat the most. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Is there anything kind of like a squirrel it has little stripes on its back? 252: It's not down here in this part of the country. No. Interviewer: What about um something that you hear making a noise around the lake at night? Makes a croaking noise. 252: It's a frog. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call the big frogs? 252: A bull frog. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What about those little ones that get up in the trees? 252: Frogs Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: get up in the Interviewer: Ever seen a 252: #1 trees? # Interviewer: #2 real green ones # 252: No. Interviewer: What about 252: We don't have 'em down here. Not no frogs that gets up in trees no. Interviewer: What about the kind that hops around on land? 252: They're toad frogs. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And a hard shelled animals that can pull its neck and legs into its shell. 252: Well that's a turtle. Interviewer: Are there different kinds of turt- 252: Well there's many different kinds of turtles. He's called a gopher. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: A alligator turtle. A freshwater turtle. And a deep sea turtle but you don't see all of them up here on the land. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Now you see the alligator turtle and the gopher. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: What we call a gopher down here. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Is an animal up north he's a fur bearing animal up north but down here Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: he's a he's a turtle. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: They have different meanings altogether. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What is a alligator turtle look like? 252: He's a hard shelled turtle that crawls out here through the woods and he's got a damn neck that long on 'em and he's got a alligator tail on 'em Interviewer: He's got a neck a foot long or? 252: Honey it runs up there that long and he will eat you up. A lot of people eats him. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: I just about as soon as eat {X} {C: I think he says his dog's name here) one of them. Now I like my turtle but not no alligator turtle no. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about gophers will they hurt you? 252: Gophers no. They are harmless. But they eat 'em I mean they eat 'em and the colored man he thinks it's the best damn thing that crawls out there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. What different names are there for colored people around here? 252: Now you hit me with that again. Interviewer: What do people use um the word colored people much or? 252: Well the word nigger Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: has been popular in the state of Florida Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: for years. And if you will look and read in your Bible Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: That is a very damaging word. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: #1 Now the word # Interviewer: #2 How # 252: negro Interviewer: Uh-huh. 252: in the case of black man Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: but the south use that word and still does. In many instances nigger Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: N i g g e r you know what I mean. Well the Bible describes that word as some kind of vulture and they don't like it and I don't blame 'em. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. You'd never use that word you? 252: No. No. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: Because I have more respects for 'em. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. I don't guess there's been any real racial trouble down here has there? 252: Not since nineteen twenty four? Interviewer: What happened in nineteen twenty four? 252: Well a negro man raped a white woman and made me six years old all of these negroes at the time lived out here what is called Rosewood that's just beyond the parts of the road. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: And they killed them negroes. They never did catch the one that done it. They'll never know what ever happened to him. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: He just disappeared. Interviewer: They just went in and started 252: They just killed 'em. Killed 'em and killed 'em. That's what they call the Rosewood war. It happened right out here just behind the forks in the road in Rosewood. Interviewer: Did the negroes fight back? 252: {NW} They didn't have no choice. There was two people and I don't know how many negroes killed. They ain't never figured that out yet. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: But there were two negroes two white men killed another and one of them happened to be my uncle. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 252: And his daughter was down here about three weeks ago to see us. Interviewer: She was down here? 252: About three weeks ago to see us. His youngest daughter. Yep. Now I give you all the damn time I got. Are you about ready to go? Interviewer: Okay. 252: And