289: One minute they're speaking English then they'll switch to Spanish. Interviewer: Um okay I uh um Yeah uh what I will probably do is I will go back and review all this and check off all the things that you've already said earlier and uh you know try and make sure that I got a you know a complete-- I usually try to get a complete thing if I can. And if it's at all possible 289: yeah Interviewer: uh would uh could you know would you be wanting to try to finish this up tonight? If uh you're here 289: Yeah we'll see as long as you come in after six. Interviewer: yeah well I can {X} 289: When it slows down you know? Interviewer: Yeah I can come any time. 289: Yeah Interviewer: 'Cause uh you were the only person I was going to interview today. Unless a Mr. uh Hicks decides but he's gonna he said he has a moose meeting he's going to 289: {NW} Interviewer: or elks or something 289: You see at nighttime on Thursdays it's kind of slow. Interviewer: Yeah. It's just that- 289: And there is one there is one two there is three of us here. tonight Interviewer: Okay. Well then you would- 289: Then I can get away for a little while. Interviewer: Yeah okay well uh I just wanted to uh I'm going to try and get a complete interview if possible. And I know it's Because I-I-I didn't- I wasn't able to get one from Mr. uh Sawyer because I didn't want you know he's old so uh I didn't want to 289: yeah Interviewer: a lot of these questions are he-he got kind of irritated 289: {NW} {X} If you don't know him Interviewer: Right right. but he you know he didn't understand the gist 289: Yep Interviewer: And uh Mr. Hicks I still have to finish. I'm not even I'm not actually certain I'll be able to finish uh depending on what his attitude is. I got about fifty percent of it. 289: {NW} Interviewer: I got uh little over two hours I think so uh okay 289: You getting it with me Interviewer: Yeah. Um I mean Tonight we can definitely finish it and we should be fine. If uh alright uh let's see If if if a wo- if if you see see going to see a pretty dress that you like you might say that's a very 289: pretty dress. Interviewer: Okay and if you see another one that you like even better you say that's even 289: prettier. Interviewer: Okay. And uh uh How 'bout uh again a woman wants to buy a dress of a certain color and she takes a long uh a little square of cloth that you 289: It's a swatch. A swatch of cloth. Interviewer: Okay. And a swatch of cloth is uh what? 289: Just a small little piece to try and match the colors Interviewer: okay uh Okay. The um Let me see. Like um you ever watch {D: evo?} 289: mm-hmm Interviewer: What's that guy's name? Junior 289: Samples. Interviewer: Okay would you ever call a swatch a 289: A sample of material Interviewer: Okay. Uh the uh Ah. And what is this? 289: Pen. Interviewer: Okay and uh the thing that they put on uh diapers are attached with 289: Pin Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you have two- if you have one nickel you've got five cents. If you've got two nickels you have 289: A dime. Interviewer: Or? 289: Ten cents. Interviewer: Okay. And uh In the wintertime sometimes you have to put on 289: {NW} Overcoat. Interviewer: Okay. How 'bout uh if-if-if-if somebody came in and said uh uh and ripped off some buttons. Gave you the button and gave you the coat and said would you 289: Sew them on? Interviewer: Okay. and um What uh wh -wh- what's a What would a man wear to church? {NS} 289: Suit. Interviewer: Okay what uh wh- what would it be made out of? 289: Okay {NS} You have your pants shirt tie coat. Interviewer: Okay how about uh that thing that they might wear between um the coat and uh the shirt 289: Undershirt T-shirt. Interviewer: No between the coat and the shirt. 289: Oh coat Coat and the shirt Interviewer: Yeah they might- 289: the line of it? Interviewer: Well they might hang on it's a little thing sometimes it has buttons and buttons this way. They used to wear 289: Vest Interviewer: okay and uh what's another what's some more terms for the coat? 289: Jacket sports coat coat. Interviewer: How about some names for uh- you mentioned pants {X} 289: Pants slacks jeans dungarees But they wouldn't wear that to church. Interviewer: Well you mention jeans and dungarees uh they say when you buy Levi's you should buy them a size larger because they'll 289: shrink after you wash them. Interviewer: really? And uh And what other type of the The man's denim has the straps? you know the 289: coveralls Interviewer: Okay. You ever uh call them anything else? 289: No um coveralls Overalls. Interviewer: Okay. How about um You might say that coat won't fit this year but last year it 289: {NW} fit. Interviewer: Perfectly. Okay uh And uh i-if-if your uh Sunday clothes wore out you'd have to buy a I'm talking about a 289: new Interviewer: yeah uh talking about a man uh your Sunday clothes wore out you'd have to buy a 289: New suit. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if a person stuffs a lot of things in his pockets it makes them 289: full. {NW} stuffs 'em. Interviewer: keep stuffing- stuffing the pockets. 289: They gonna overflow pretty soon. Interviewer: okay 289: Jam full jam his pockets full. Interviewer: Okay. But uh uh you might say they're 289: Stuffed them Interviewer: No. The pockets are Bul- gonna say it makes the pockets bul- 289: Bulgy {NW} Interviewer: Alright alright 289: Bulge. Interviewer: Okay. And uh How about uh a young wo- a young lady a dresses in front of the mirror for long lengths of time you know and messes with her hair and puts on 289: Primps Interviewer: Okay. And uh that kind of {X} 289: No Just making ourselves I call it making themselves body beautiful. Interviewer: Body beautiful? Okay. 289: Or your putting on your warpaint. Interviewer: that's somebody else said that too. um what would you call a small leather container with a clasp on it that uh some uh well women carry it you know 289: what wallets? Interviewer: No this is- what-what about the one around your 289: Purse? Interviewer: okay uh how about the one for coins that some men carry around? You ever heard that? 289: They call it a coin purse. Interviewer: okay 289: purse Interviewer: Okay and how about not a watch but a um what do you c- what's something that you can wear around a wrist? 289: Bracelet? Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you had some um {NW} little round things that could be made out of beads er um {NS} not uh alright, yeah. Could be metal piece of wood. uh round you know and they were all put together on a piece of string, if you had and you put it around your neck you'd have a 289: necklace. Interviewer: Alright. And what's another way you could refer to that? 289: Chain {NS} Interviewer: Alright 289: necklace. Interviewer: You know, like imitation pearls or something. 289: It- I'd just call it a pearl neckla- a pearl necklace. Or pearls. Call it putting their pearls on. Interviewer: Okay. uh Okay if you had them they're all wooden. you know those little round things. What would you call those? You'd say these are my- this is 289: To me it's a necklace. If it goes around your throat it's a you know necklace. Interviewer: Okay. And what do you hold over you when it rains? 289: {NW} Umbrella. Interviewer: And um what is it that older men use to hold up their pants? 289: Suspenders. Interviewer: Anything else? that you use to call it? 289: {NW} Nope. Not as far as suspenders that's it. Interviewer: Okay. How about- what is the last thing that you put on a bed? 289: {NW} The last th- Interviewer: {NW} When you make it though. 289: When I make it that would be either the bedspread or the spread. {NW} the d- um what is it the quilt. If it's collared just might put the quilt on it straighten up- the- get ready to get back in it Interviewer: Okay. And what's the thing you lay your head on? 289: Pillow. Pillow. Interviewer: You ever hear the bedspread get called anything else around here? 289: Bedspread spread. Coverlet? Yeah coverlet. Some people put on a um Some of the old people just put on a sheet you know use a sheet. So that way you know when they {X} they don't have to mess up the bed. you know pulling the bedspread. Interviewer: what's in the- what's the cano- the uh canopy 289: Canopy. Interviewer: Yeah 289: You mean the thing that goes on top of the bed? Those old fashioned beds? Interviewer: No I think this is called a counter paint or a counter. You ever heard of that? 289: I heard you all mention it but I don't know. Interviewer: Okay and uh {NW} Alright you ever remember any- anything uh uh it's round like a cylinder only it's they got it to go across a double bed at the head in place of a pillow? um 289: What a sham? No. Head pull-up Pillow Pillow rest. {NW} I ju- I don't know any of that Interviewer: Sometimes it goes across the back of a- of a day bed 289: Yeah but I don't know what the name of it is. {NW} To me it's just a piece of foam used as a pillow of some type used as a pillow. Interviewer: Okay you were 289: Backrest. Interviewer: Bolster? 289: Yeah a bolster pillow. Interviewer: Okay. And you might say that bolster didn't go a part-way across the bed. It went 289: Part way wha- All the way. Interviewer: Um {NS} {NW} Uh what would you call a makeshift sleeping place, down on the floor? You know if you had a lot of visitors coming and you didn't have enough room. bed and stuff 289: You sleep on the floor. Pull a- mm Interviewer: Make me a 289: bunk? you know {NW} You take a bunch of blankets or some pillows off the couch and {NS} you know if you have a sectional couch and put 'em together and make a bed out of that Interviewer: okay. you ever heard it called anything else? make me a blank on the floor? 289: No. make me a bed, that's it. Interviewer: okay. Alright if someone said we expect a big yield from that pineapple field this year because the summer was very 289: {NW} rich. Interviewer: Or? Another word for rich? 289: Rich. It's always rich. {NW} Soil's rich. Interviewer: fer- 289: Fertile Interviewer: Okay. And uh what do you call a the flat low land along a stream? 289: The Riverbed. Interviewer: Okay and if they were farming you know along a river or stream like that, what would you call that uh land? people up in the mountains all the time dream of 289: people in the mountains dream of Interviewer: 'cause it's real it's supposed to be real rich. It floods you know and 289: {NW} Dams. No. That {X} Interviewer: Okay. How about um what would you call a low-lying grassland? 289: lowlands. Interviewer: Okay um anything you know just something w-wouldn't grow anything but maybe jus- just grass or something like that {NS} You know like you know like along along a side of the keys it won't grow anything but just grass. 289: {NW} If there's nothing growing along the keys it's just because of the the land's been poor. You know too much lime in the ground won't grow. Interviewer: Okay. How about a um a so this is well a this is more like the Everglades is a what? 289: Everglades is swamp. Interviewer: Okay. 289: Swamplands swamp. Interviewer: Okay listen there's a- do you consid- do you have a lot of swamplands on the keys? 289: I wouldn't say n- I would say no because there's not too many in the keys which we could take you know you think of swamps you think about airboats and uh snakes. And alligators or crocodiles. Interviewer: Are there trees in the swamps? 289: Yeah- no not- they've got you know some areas there's plenty a trees within the swamplands that tall {NW} they call snake grass. Interviewer: uh-huh 289: In the keys, where they building up right now. {NW} {NS} Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah I drove down through uh Okeechobee 289: Yeah. Interviewer: How about a place where salt hay grows? You ever seen this? 289: Salt what? Interviewer: Hay. 289: Hay? Interviewer: You ever heard of that along the shoreline? Okay. Um how about uh what uh what different kinds of soil would you find around here how would you describe it? 289: {NW} you got mall Interviewer: Well now what's that? 289: Mall is the rock Interviewer: oh. {NS} 289: You got black dirt sand Interviewer: now if it's sandy would they how would they describe it th-? would they say it's sandy or? 289: To me it's sandy. {NS} Interviewer: ju- 289: Can't grow very much. Can't grow anything hardly. Interviewer: Okay how about- how about the um uh soil that's uh lo- and it starts off sand starts low 289: {NW} Low. Interviewer: You ever heard of a soil type called loam? 289: No. Interviewer: Okay uh. If uh like you were talking about developing in the everglades if they're getting the water off of the swamps they're 289: they're draining it off. Interviewer: Okay and what do they have to d- what do they have to dig to get the water off? 289: {NW} They dig canals. Interviewer: Okay. And uh what kind of bodies of water can you think of? 289: You got lake oceans seas rivers That's about it isn't it? Seas rivers oceans. Interviewer: Okay how about just a little stream? 289: Yeah stream, brook. uh brook. {X} That's about it. {NW} Interviewer: cripple 289: you mean what is it ripple creek? cripple creek? something like that. Interviewer: okay. and um How about a shallow arm of the sea? You know a tidal stream. you know it's only there when the ocean's tides are in. You ever heard of anything like that? Think you might have something like that around here? 289: {NW} Only there no. {X} sandbars is when the tide goes out. you have those. Interviewer: Okay. 289: that's about it. Interviewer: Alright how about um uh if like they had a really heavy bit of rainfall, and you had like a slope in your yard or something and it cut out a 289: cut out a what a dri- {NS} not a ditch. {NW} An alley type thing. Interviewer: Yeah what would you call that? 289: I honestly don't know. I jus- it's just draining off the land. Interviewer: Okay 289: runni- running-off. sometimes they say running off the land. Interviewer: Okay uh uh wh- what kind of a 289: Hills? Interviewer: No what kind of uh um elevation- well you mentioned mountain earlier. What's the rocky side of a mountain that drops off sharp? 289: A cliff? Interviewer: Okay. And uh {NS} down here where the boats unload and the freights unload what do you call that? 289: piers. Interviewer: Okay anything else? 289: Docks. Interviewer: Okay uh. 289: Ramps. Interviewer: Okay Are there any creeks or streams in the keys that you know of? 289: Creaks or streams. No. Not as far as I know of. There is a thing on big pine key {NW} it's filled with s- it's a freshwater pool. you know just by itself it just keeps filling up with fresh water. Interviewer: huh. okay. It must be a spring or something like that. 289: Yeah. {X} You know you swim in salt water you can float and when you try to swim in that you practically sink. Interviewer: Yeah. {NW} That's weird. That would be weird for somebody that wasn't expecting it. How about uh {X} In hilly land where there's creeks and stuff and there's been a real heavy rainfall 289: Mm-hmm Interviewer: then you got a real deep tread in the soil and what do you call that? when it makes a deep {NS} 289: We don't have that down this way. Interviewer: Okay. And 289: Reservoirs no. Drains off. Flood never flows. Interviewer: Okay. Well how about uh you ever ever go to the mountains? 289: Once. Twice. {NS} Interviewer: Okay well alright on TV then. The old westerns. After a guy would shoot somebody he'd take out his knife and carve a what in the handle of his gun? 289: A notch. Interviewer: Okay. And um uh {NS} What would you call Niagara? Like what would you call a place where large amounts 289: Falls. Niagara Falls? Interviewer: Okay. Do you ever just refer to it as a Okay and what kind of roads did you have here when you were small? 289: Dirt roads. Interviewer: Okay. Any other kind? 289: Call 'em billy goat roads. If you- if you had a- if you got a car. {NW} If you could- some of the roads were so bad that if you could take your new car down the road and come out without it squeaking then you knew you got- you knew you had a good car. They call them billy goat roads. Interviewer: {X} well now what what kind of road is this out here now? 289: {NW} That's a- um paved road Interviewer: Are well what's it ma- do you know what it's made out of? {NW} 289: black tar rock um I forgot what the name of the stuff is they use asphalt it's asphalt? yeah. Interviewer: okay. How about what do you call a little road that goes off the main road just outside of town? 289: main road? street? Interviewer: No. You're driving out say your driving out toward marathon and there's a little you know it's- you know 289: cutoff. Interviewer: okay. how about uh if you're driving down to somebody's house who lives out of town and you have to turn down his own 289: street? Interviewer: yeah but ye- he's the only one who lives on it and he's at the end of it 289: it's a road. private road. Interviewer: okay. it would be his own 289: his own property road. his own property Interviewer: okay. it would probably just go up to his garage so it would be his 289: drive Interviewer: okay. and uh what do you call this thing that you walk on out here? 289: {NW} Sidewalk. Interviewer: okay and what's it made out of? 289: cement. Interviewer: do you have any names for the space between the sidewalk and the street? that's used 289: gutters. Interviewer: okay. that's- that's interesting. how about if you're walking along a road and a dog jumped out at you and scared you what would you reach down and pick up? 289: pick up a rock or a stone. Throw it at him. Stick. Interviewer: Would you ever uh use any other words besides throw? like when you were young would you say I- {NW} 289: No Interviewer: chunked it? 289: No not chunked it no. Interviewer: Fling. flung 289: Flung it flew it. Interviewer: okay if if you uh uh if if you go to somebody's house and he's not there, they might say no he's not 289: at home. Interviewer: okay. and and how do you- what do you- in the morning, what's the- what's the liquid that you usually drink with breakfast? black liquid that some people drink? 289: you mean coffee? Interviewer: okay. how how would- when you're getting ready to prepare some, what would you say? 289: gonna prepare- gonna cook it? Interviewer: wait a minute you're gonna cook some coffee? 289: Make. Interviewer: Okay. and uh um and uh around here now do they have any special terms for drinking it? you can have it two ways. you can have it 289: black wi- Interviewer: or 289: creamed and sugar. Interviewer: okay but you can have it black or 289: {NW} they call it what is it black or white? no. black coffee Interviewer: okay when it's black do they have any special names for it when it's just black like that? 289: No not as far as I know of. See I don't drink coffee. Interviewer: Oh okay. I- I just meant I didn't know if you had something like barefoot or- 289: No. Interviewer: you ever hear anything like that? alright so you can drink it um fill in the blank here 289: black Interviewer: or w- 289: creamed and sugar Interviewer: Alright well talking about cream and sugar if they want it you might say they uh blank sugar or 289: blank sug- what a spoon of sugar? Interviewer: alright no alright I'm gonna say I have a pen here and now this is 289: beside it. Interviewer: or? 289: next to it. Interviewer: or? {NS} 289: Near it Interviewer: Okay. How about um wi- um wh- the word um begins with a w. 289: with it? Interviewer: okay you can have it with it or 289: well with cream or sugar or without. Interviewer: Okay that's all I was trying to get from you. 289: Jeez! for one little word. Interviewer: Ain't that something? how about if if if someone's not going away from you you say he's coming {NW} 289: he's coming to see me. Interviewer: alright if he's not going away from you he's coming he's walking straight 289: to me? Interviewer: yeah to what's another word for 289: towards me. Interviewer: okay and uh if you say someone you had not seen for quite a while uh you might say this morning I 289: {NW} saw Interviewer: okay. and uh if if if you met somebody in town instead of saying I met 'em you might say I ran 289: ran into him. Interviewer: okay and if a child is given the same name that her mother has okay you could say they named the child they named the child blank her mother 289: {NW} after her mother Interviewer: okay and uh 289: they don't do that with girls down this way. Interviewer: oh they don't? 289: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: how about young men? 289: boys they do. yeah 'cause we have three {NW} we have uh my father was senior my brother's junior and his firstborn son's the third. So my family we always name the firstborn son after the father. Interviewer: okay. the um I think uh what I wanna do is we'll {NS} okay. Um let me see alright now If you wanted your dog to attack another dog what would you tell him? 289: {NW} Go get him or sic him. Interviewer: okay and uh um if your dog is a mixed breed 289: he's a mongrel. Interviewer: okay 289: or a Heinz fifty seven Interviewer: Heinz? and excuse me uh you might if your dog is a little bit vicious you might warn somebody be careful or he will uh 289: {NW} bite you. Interviewer: okay and if someone {NW} got it the day before you'd say yesterday Johnny got 289: bit yesterday. Interviewer: Okay 289: bit Interviewer: and he say uh {NS} you might say uh my dog 289: will bite. Interviewer: #1 or my dog # 289: #2 has bitten # Interviewer: yeah and okay 289: and he has too Interviewer: oh yeah? {NW} do you live at the end of this street? 289: {NW} so I live in the last block and you'll see a house that has one little lonely coconut tree. {NW} with four big glass windows jalousie windows big wide windows. On the right side. Interviewer: okay the reason why I was just wondering because I have a map that I use uh you know for the I'll send it along with the tapes and mark off where you live so they'll know where I'm at. 289: It's the one two three fourth house on the right side in the last block. Interviewer: okay so it's in the last block on on 289: Flemming. Interviewer: on the right? okay. uh alright in a herd of cattle do you know what they call the male? 289: it's a- p- the bull. Interviewer: okay. and how about uh if you had uh you know you know those animals they use they use to uh work with that look like horses? 289: mules? Interviewer: Yeah if- 289: donkeys? jackasses? Interviewer: right if you had two of them working together what would you call them? 289: mules. Interviewer: okay. 289: I don't think it's proper to say jackasses though. you know the asses? Interviewer: oh. how about uh um not um a baby cow when it's first born it's a what? {NW} 289: {NW} calf. Interviewer: Alright {NW} and uh if if you had a cow with a with the name of daisy expecting a calf you might say daisy is going to 289: {NW} I don't know what they call it fo- not foal. {X} they use that for a cow. a horse is a fo- a foal. {NW} I don't know Interviewer: Okay 289: for a cow. Interviewer: Alright now what would you call the male horse? 289: {NW} What is it stallion? {NW} well a woman is um the mare isn't it? Interviewer: okay. alright. and uh if-if uh if you had if you had a horse you might saddle him up and what? 289: {NW} ride him. Interviewer: okay. and if you did yesterday you'd say you uh 289: rode him. Interviewer: yeah. and uh you might say um uh uh I have never 289: ridden. Interviewer: Okay. and if you couldn't stay on you would fall off okay and but if you were in bed and you rolled over you misjudged the edge of the bed you say 289: I'm still gonna fall off roll off. Interviewer: Okay you roll- well you say you fell 289: {NW} fell off the bed. Interviewer: okay. and uh okay. um you or uh okay wh- what's the game they play with the things on horses' feet? 289: {NW} Horseshoes. Interviewer: okay. and do you know what they attach the horseshoes to? 289: the hooves. Interviewer: okay and one of those is a 289: hoof. Interviewer: okay. and I ask- oh a male sheep is called a 289: {NW} Ram. Interviewer: Okay. And a female sheep? {NS} 289: I can't think of it offhand Interviewer: Ever 289: L- veal? No veal is what you eat. No. Interviewer: Okay. Um and the stuff that grows on their backs? 289: {NW} Say uh wool. Interviewer: Okay. um how about a male hog you know what they call him? 289: No. unless it's a- only thing I can think of is- no boar it's just like a pig with a tusk. uh sow? They call it a sow? that's uh was that the female pig? Sow. Or the baby. Interviewer: uh wh- wh- what would you call a baby pig? 289: {NW} a piglet. Interviewer: okay. 289: So the sow must be the woman. But what they call the man? Interviewer: okay. And uh uh well alright so you got you say you got piglets, sows uh the man, what you call them all together when they're full grown? 289: Pigs? Interviewer: Or 289: Got a herd of pigs. Interviewer: {X} 289: Sties! We call them sties? No, they put them in a st- pig stile. Stile? Something like that. Interviewer: Would you know what would you know what they call a um uh a male pig that's been altered so he won't breed? 289: {NW} He's been castrated. {NW} {X} Interviewer: Okay. uh did they did they have any names for wild hogs on the islands here? I know there's a few in here but I don't know if they ever got down here. 289: No- no not that I know of. Usually you hear- no boars No. Interviewer: Okay 289: Not that I know of. Interviewer: How about uh um the stiff hairs on a dog's neck or a um a hog's neck, any kind of animal's neck when they get mad they stick up they say You know what they call it? 289: {NW} No. Interviewer: Okay how about on a brush that you brush your hair with those 289: Bristles? Interviewer: Okay. And uh same word the um you know the noise made by a calf when uh it's being weened? think what they call that. 289: He's mooing. {NW} Interviewer: Okay. And uh would you say cows do that? 289: They moo. Interviewer: Okay. How about horses? You know what noise they make? 289: It's like a neigh. Interviewer: Alright, do you know of any other ter- terms? You know any other names for that? 289: {X} Winnie? {X} Interviewer: Yeah that'll Anything else you ever heard? I'm a little uh hyper I guess. {NW} I'll calm down in a minute. 289: I haven't been on a horse since I was around twelve. Interviewer: Well well don't worry about it 289: It whinnies and and they neigh. That's about it, as far as I know. Oh they let out like they breath out of their nose they'll {NW} Interviewer: I guess then 289: breathing through it. Interviewer: Okay. If you had some horses or cows or something like that and it was time it was you know they were hungry, you might say I gotta go out and 289: {NW} feed them. Interviewer: Okay would you ever uh call it feed the what? 289: Feed the what livestock? Feed the stock? Interviewer: Okay How about- now we were talking about you had some ducks and chickens and 289: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And uh uh if you were going out to feed them if you're walking birds. You say I'm gonna go out and feed the what? 289: Feed the chickens feed the ducks. Livestock. We wouldn't call them livestock in key west 'cause you can't have them. I mean like you can have If you- police don't get too nosy you can have one as a pet. but I just go out and put it and if he doesn't have enough sense to come out and get it then it's his tough luck. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. Uh do you know what they call a um hen that's on a nest of eggs? 289: {NW} She's roosting. Or laying on the eggs to hatch 'em. Interviewer: Okay. You ever heard of anything else? 289: No. Hatching the eggs roosting no. That's about it. Interviewer: Okay. uh and the house that they live in? 289: It's a chicken coop. Interviewer: Okay. You ever call it anything else around here? Any special thing? 289: Chicken pens. {NS} {NW} Anything like h- like that that they have here like for pigeons {NW} it's a pigeon coop. Pigeon pen. {NW} holds them all in coops Interviewer: What are what are uh Some of the animals that people have around here? What are the some of the wh- what Like on the island right now, what animals would you expect to find, outside of- 289: {NW} Outside dogs cats you'd find um birds a lot of different types of birds. Parakeets Canaries Parrots {NW} Myna birds. Interviewer: Now these are pets or 289: People have them in their homes as pets. Interviewer: Okay they're not like native birds. 289: No. You see- Oh! You see the cranes out. {NW} And you see the pelicans. {NW} And they call- they're some they call Nigger Geese. Interviewer: What- what- now why do they call them that? 289: They're black. Interviewer: Okay. 289: That's about it. {X} Interviewer: And they're geese? 289: They call 'em geese. Nigger Geese. Interviewer: Yeah. Okay how about uh you say uh are there any wild animals? that would be native to the keys? that you can think of? 289: You can see deers. Interviewer: Now is that the big ones or the 289: that's the small ones. Interviewer: Ones that are about three feet tall? 289: Yeah about that big. {NW} And they're different from uh what you would see other deers. You know you Some deer have white tails. These more less like have little freckles. E- even though they're not young. {NW} They don't get very big I think they weigh maybe about {NW} twenty or thirty pounds that's about it. Of the ones that I've seen. {NS} Interviewer: N- now they uh they have a deer of key is that it? 289: Yeah um that's big pine key. Dur- uh certain area and length of highway they tell you beware of the deer you know crossing {NW} cause if you hit one and you don't stop you know to take care of it to take it to the uh station there and they catch you you can be into a lot of trouble. Interviewer: They're protected pretty well. 289: It's like a wild uh wildlife preserve what now? Oh there're some snakes up in there. Interviewer: Okay well what kind of snakes do you have? 289: {NW} That I couldn't tell you. I know there's some black snakes. {NW} They have chicken snakes. I don't know {NS} Yeah I think the everglades have rattlers in there. But I've never seen 'em. I've seen chicken snakes. But that's about it. Interviewer: What do they look like? 289: They're not too long. A coup- maybe two feet long, they're very skinny. and they have like red markings I think around them. I haven't see one in key west in a long time. {NW} Generally you only have those when you have chicken pens. chicken coop around. Interviewer: Okay. now on the breast part of the chicken, at the back of the breast, There's a little bone that looks like that. 289: Wishbone. Interviewer: Okay. what uh what's the do you know any superstitions involved with that? 289: Yes you break- you supposed to let it dry dry. {X} chicken let the bone dry for a day or two. {NW} then you break it. then whoever has the biggest part gets their wish to come true. {NS} and it doesn't work. Interviewer: Okay. You try it out? 289: Tried it on the chicken and turkeys and it doesn't work Interviewer: Okay. Now do you have stock and and and you do the chores. 289: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: it's time to feed the ch- stock and do the chores, you might say it's what? 289: {NW} No you just go out and do your chores. Feed the livestock. Ten- tend the cattle. Interviewer: Okay. And uh do you know what everybody calls the cows to get them in? 289: Oink oink the pig No cows is moo. Interviewer: To get 'em to come in? 289: Yeah. Interviewer: Okay. How about any the calves? 289: {NW} I guess they just try to sound like their mothers or fathers try and get them in. {NW} Interviewer: Okay what about mules or horses to make them turn left or right did you ever hear anything like that? 289: {NW} No. You supposed to with horses you supposed to uh whichever way the reins you know touches the side of neck it's that's a Interviewer: Now now you said the reins. Is that the {NW} 289: The bit that comes through their mouth that has reins that you hold onto your hand. Interviewer: On on horseback? 289: On horseback. Interviewer: Okay. And uh you know any calls to horses to get them to come in from pasture? 289: {NS} No. I guess if it was your pet and your animal you'd just call its name and it come. Interviewer: Okay. How about you were sitting on one and you wanted the horse to get moving? 289: Giddy up. Interviewer: Okay. And if you were riding 'em to get 'em to stop 289: Woah. Interviewer: Okay. How about uh uh, to feed the pigs, how would they get them to come in? 289: {NW} Oh you call them sooey. Interviewer: Okay 289: {X} Interviewer: Uh any um you ever heard anybody call sheep? 289: No. {X} They have a a sheepdog with them. Go out and round them up to call 'em in Interviewer: okay. 289: Or if you've got your main sh- what {NW} your main sheep I think it's a male. So it'd be what like a ram? {NW} They have a bell so if if you had him like a pet you can call him and they'd follow along with him? Interviewer: Okay. There's no sheep in the on the isles that you know of 289: No. Interviewer: Okay. I was just curious I uh the only the only people now the dairy and the slaughterhouse 289: Mm-hmm Interviewer: are the only ones that I've been able to locate on the except maybe some horses. Do you know of any other um uh places where they might have had livestock on the island? 289: No. {NW} See we used to have- I know we used to have a salt pond where we got our own salt. You know the only li- mm. {X} Interviewer: you mean drain it off and 289: Mm-hmm and have your salt. In fact where the high school at is at right now used to be one of 'em. Salt pond. Interviewer: After a while you just got all the salt out of them? 289: Mm-hmm. Let the sun dry all the water out of it. Interviewer: Oh. What did they do did they get hard cakes or? 289: Better than that. I just- I just had people talking about it you know. Interviewer: Okay now you said that uh you called the things that when you're sitting on the what about when you're on a wagon the things that you hold uh to drive the horse. 289: Stirrup? No. Be the reins. Interviewer: Okay. And the things you put your feet in? When you're sitting on the back? 289: Stirrups Interviewer: And um If you have two horses do you know what they call the horse on the left when they're driving a team? 289: {NW} Off hand no but if someone said the word I'd know it. But I know- oh {NW} One's a lead horse one I don't know. Lead horse. Interviewer: Okay. How about uh if I slipped on uh on something slimy stuff on the floor or whatever and fell in that direction I'd be falling over 289: backwards. Interviewer: Okay and if I fell the opposite? 289: Forwards. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if you went out fishing and you didn't have any luck If you came back in and someone said did you catch anything you might say no blank a one. How would you do that? 289: Not a darn one not a damn one or they weren't biting. Interviewer: Okay. And a schoolboy might say of a scolding teacher why is she blaming me I blank something uh wrong. 289: {NW} I didn't do it. Interviewer: Okay. Uh How about someone apologizes for breaking something of yours that you loaned them? Like a rake or something you know and it wasn't that important and so you might say that's alright I didn't like it 289: {NW} It wasn't of value. Or it wasn't important I can easily get another one. Interviewer: Okay but you might- how about this? That's alright I didn't like it 289: Anyway. Interviewer: Okay. Blank And uh a crying child might say I knew he was eating candy you didn't give me 289: {NW} Any Interviewer: Okay. And uh the how about those in a field those the rivets you know what they call those along you know what a plow makes? 289: {NW} plo- I wanna say plowing the earth the um put the grain feed um seeds in. Interviewer: And the long uh 289: Fur- no, it's not furlough. Furloughs? Interviewer: No. It's close. 289: Mm-mm. {NW} I haven't been on a farm. Interviewer: Okay that's alright. Uh for if and you said 289: No fertilize the ground? #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 No. # You said- what'd you say? 289: Fertile? Interviewer: No okay, fur- 289: Furrow Interviewer: Does that- that sound better? 289: Yeah sounds more like it. Interviewer: Okay. If you if you got all rid of all the brush and trees in the land you'd say what would you say you did? 289: You cleared it. Interviewer: Okay. And uh {NS} Uh do you know what they do with oats or wheat to uh uh get the separate the shaft and the grain? 289: {NW} They beat it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 289: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Do you know what they call that? 289: Threshing. Interviewer: Okay so you might say the oats 289: Were threshed? Interviewer: Okay. Um Okay. If if if you and another person had got- you know got a job together uh when when you when you told them about it you might say you and 289: {NW} I Interviewer: Okay have a job. {NW} How about um If uh uh if you and another person and the other person is a male, are going over to someone else's house, you'd say blank and blank are coming over. 289: {NW} Me and another person that's a male? Interviewer: Yeah. 289: Bob and I. Or Dick and I. Interviewer: Or how about using pronouns? On both cases. 289: Dick and Linda. or Li- Linda and Dick. Interviewer: Okay but like he she or it 289: He I see I say He and I? Interviewer: Well just how would you say it? {X} blank and blank are coming over. 289: {NW} Think Margarette and Dick's coming over or he- Interviewer: Him and me or he and I or 289: He and I- he and I. {NW} are gonna come over. Interviewer: Okay. And uh 289: {NW} It's not proper English. {X} somebody. Interviewer: Well, happens all over. They take all the surveys. maybe- 289: maybe we might- we might change it Interviewer: Okay. How about uh if you knock at the door and someone says who's there and they know your voice. you're at the door, they're not. and they- you can't g- 289: Come on in. Interviewer: Okay. and uh they say who is it and you might say it's 289: It's me. Interviewer: Okay. and uh uh if we're sitting here and someone knocks at the door and uh you're expecting someone and I say who's that? you might say oh it's only 289: Margarette. That's the only one I would expect. Interviewer: Okay now alright if- if it was a girl and you didn't know the name you would say it was only 289: it was only her. Interviewer: Okay and if it was a male? 289: {NW} Him. Interviewer: And if it's a group of people? 289: Them. Interviewer: Okay. And uh Comparing how tall you are, you might say he's not as tall as 289: I. Interviewer: Okay and uh comparing how tall you are again you might say I'm not as 289: Tall as him. Interviewer: Okay. And uh comparing how well you can do something you might say he can do it better than 289: {NW} I. Interviewer: Okay. Uh if a man had been running for two miles and then he had to stop you might say two miles is 289: {NW} His limit. Interviewer: Okay or would you say two miles is all 289: {NW} It's all he can go. Interviewer: Okay would you ever use uh For instance two miles is all the 289: You mean as far as he can go? two miles is as far Interviewer: Alright something like that or two miles is all the 289: Two miles is as far as he could go. That be about it. Interviewer: Okay. 289: {NW} Or that's all enough- when he's got fu- {X} two miles Interviewer: okay. Or two miles is the 289: The limit. Interviewer: Okay. how about uh if something belongs to uh to me you'd say it's 289: belongs to you. Interviewer: Alright so {X} it is 289: yours. Interviewer: Okay. And uh if it belongs to the both of us you'd say it's 289: ours. Interviewer: And if it belongs to them? 289: Belongs belongs to them. It's theirs. Interviewer: Okay. and if it belongs to him? 289: Belongs to him. Interviewer: So it's 289: his. Interviewer: Okay and if it belongs to her? 289: Her. Interviewer: Okay so it's so it's 289: hers. Interviewer: And uh when when someone leaves your house, and you know like up north they say blank come again how wou- how do you uh if you want someone to come back 289: Just come back anytime. Interviewer: Okay do you ever use like uh a form of uh- well like people been to visit you and they're about to leave you might say blank come back again. What would you put in the blank? {NS} 289: {NW} It won't- wouldn't be their names. {NW} Down this way I don't think- we just uh if it were someone that we really enjoyed having visit with us we might walk them to the door and say goodnight come again soon. or your welcome to come anytime. if it's a member of the family visiting from away {X} hug 'em and kiss 'em and tell them they're welcome to come any time they want. or our house was their hou- was theirs any time they wanted to come. but more or less {NW} always say like Aunt Ray and Uncle Jim come back any time. But it really have to be someone real close. Interviewer: Okay would you ever say anything like y'all? 289: Y'all come- no. I wouldn't. Interviewer: does people here 289: Not that often would I use y'all. Interviewer: Alright how about just you? You come in? 289: Well yeah. you can come a- you can come again. Come again. {NW} Well let's put it this way if they've been invited to your house then they know they're more than welcome anytime. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. How about if if if if someone if a group you know uh How about uh you if if a group of people, their car you know somebody else's car was out in the road or in the street you might uh you might have to say to them someone's going to run into 289: your car. Interviewer: Okay. and uh asking about people at a party you might say uh you know how would you go about asking you're trying to find out everybody that was at the party so you might say 289: {NW} who was there? Interviewer: okay would you ever use like uh who uh plus a word? 289: who was there? Interviewer: just who was there? okay how about uh when uh when your asking about uh maybe what a preacher said or a speaker of some kind 289: what did he say? what did he speak about? Interviewer: Okay. and uh if no one will look out for them they gonna have to look out for 289: for themselves Interviewer: and if no one will look out for him he has to he better do it 289: Hisself. Interviewer: okay. and {NS} uh when you go in the kitchen and your very thirsty what is it that you get? 289: {NW} knowing me be not a drink of water it would be the juice {NW} iced tea or some kind of soda. Interviewer: okay and you'd put in you might pour it in 289: Glass. Interviewer: okay and uh would you ever call a glass different uh anything different? 289: No. Glass is a glass. Interviewer: If you dropped it on the floor yesterday, what would you say happened to it? 289: I broke it. Interviewer: Okay. and uh you might say last week we had blank fifteen glasses. 289: We broke fifteen glasses. Interviewer: Okay. if um uh and this and uh a- 289: drinking? Interviewer: okay and yesterday you 289: drunk. Interviewer: and uh 289: I will drink. Interviewer: Okay. and uh alright. you might say how much have you 289: Drunk. Interviewer: okay. let me see we sure 289: have drunk a lot. or drank Interviewer: And uh if dinner's on the table and everyone's standing around being very formal all twiddling their thumbs, waiting for someone to call them in and everything 289: You better come and get it. It's on the table. Interviewer: And everyone's standing at the table like this what might you just tell 'em? 289: take your seats. Sit wherever you like. Interviewer: alright just yeah. okay wh- uh how about uh you say uh you might tell well like the act of doing this 289: {NS} you're sitting. Interviewer: Okay now yesterday I 289: sat. Interviewer: Okay and he had 289: sit. Interviewer: Okay. And he will 289: sit. Interviewer: Okay and uh if you want someone not to wait until things are passed at the table 289: Help yourself or boardinghouse reach. {NS} Interviewer: Is that right? 289: or if you gonna wait {NW} you won't get left out Interviewer: Alright and uh you might say after you say help yourself so he went ahead and 289: {NW} helped himself. Interviewer: Okay. since uh since they had already 289: helped themself. Interviewer: okay. And uh if you're at uh somebody you know your friend's house it's a good friend and you're eating there. and they offer you something you're not particularly fond of eating, maybe salad {NW} 289: I just tell them I don't like it or I don't care for it. Interviewer: Okay say okay you say you might okay how about uh if food's been cooked and served a second time you say it's been uh 289: warmed over or warmed up. Interviewer: okay. and if you put food in your mouth you begin to 289: {NW} chew. Interviewer: okay. and uh um did you ever use Indian meal? 289: {NS} No. Interviewer: You know 289: Isn't it ground from corn though? Interviewer: Yeah. it's like- yeah. You know what they make out of that? 289: {NW} uh they make it- I think they use it the same way we would use our flour or our cornmeal something like that I'm not sure but that's what they use it for I think they grind up the meal and make their bread or something like that. Interviewer: you ever heard of anybody taking cornmeal or Indian meal and boiling it with saltwater and eating it that way? just you it- it's 289: I think the Indians do. Interviewer: yeah and it's wa- watery. 289: yeah. Interviewer: you know what they call that? 289: No. I've just seen that from movies and some of the books that we have. Interviewer: okay how about miss Bruce said key west is a fairly drinking town uh do they have any illegal names for illegal whiskey uh yeah 289: lo- moonshine white lightning Interviewer: what else? 289: moonshine white lightning that's about it. that's all I've ever heard of. I don't think they've got it at least if they've got it I've never heard where it- where it's at. Interviewer: Okay there's none that you've ever heard of here? How about have you ever heard of the uh 289: Oh Bathtub Gin. Interviewer: okay. how about homemade beer? you ever heard any names for that? 289: no. I think {NW} Oh I know you make it- no that's gin isn't it? and you make it use potato spuds? Interviewer: {NW} 289: I'm trying to remember. you see 'em I saw a couple movies where they take potatoes and they grind them up and they steam it like in a kettle like they would do um moonshine. Interviewer: yeah. 289: but I don't know what comes out when it comes out. no beer's made from wheat and rye barley. Interviewer: I yeah I don't know. I- 289: I don't know blame the movies. they have 'em that's about all I know Interviewer: How about you ever heard the term splo? 289: No. Interviewer: okay. uh when someone's cooking and it makes a good impression on your nostrils okay and you're in the other room you might say someone just that 289: just smell that. Interviewer: okay. and um you know when you crush uh cane and boil the juice to make 289: sugar. Interviewer: alright before they get- sugar is refined but it's refined from 289: sugar cane. Interviewer: Okay but you know what the intermediate the syrup stuff is? It's usually dark and 289: No. Interviewer: well 289: All I know is sugar comes from sugar cane. {NW} And you can uh take sugar cane and make strips out of it and chew it and get the juice out of it. Interviewer: Alright your hot mol- 289: Malt? Interviewer: Mol- mola- 289: Molasses? Interviewer: Okay. 289: Oh well. Learn something new. Interviewer: Now listen, molasses blank thick. I'm using uh a verb there. 289: No. Molasses blank thick Interviewer: You say that molasses blank thick 289: Blank thick Interviewer: or just 289: Sure is thick? no molasses is thick {NW} Sorry. Interviewer: What was that you said? Molasses 289: Molasses su- sure is thick? Interviewer: Alright. take that- would you say without the sure would you use it would you say it that way? molasses 289: {NW} Molasses is thick? Interviewer: Is that the way you would say that? 289: I wouldn't even say it. {NW} Interviewer: okay. 289: 'Cause the only thing we use molasses is black molasses for when you cooking baked beans. That's the only thing we use it for. Interviewer: Okay. Alright when uh sugar is not prepackaged But weighed you know in huge amounts, 289: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Alright you say it's sold in 289: Its sold in th- sold from the sack? Interviewer: yeah when it's sold you know instead of have one two five pound bags you know its small 289: that's the only way I've ever bought it. Interviewer: okay well alright we'll say there's two ways things can come it can come packaged or it can come in 289: barrels or kegs Interviewer: alright do you ever um uh 289: I don't think they package sugar in barrels though. Interviewer: okay. well you know the way they ship it on a ship that's what bul- 289: bulk? Interviewer: yeah but you ever hear anybody say that it's sold in bulk? 289: yeah sold in yeah bulk large quantities of it Interviewer: okay and uh okay if a man has a lot of money um and doesn't have anything to worry about okay uh um or I'm sorry let me get this straight now a man has plenty of money. he doesn't have anything to worry about. 289: right. Interviewer: Okay but life is hard on a man 289: {NW} who doesn't have any. Interviewer: okay. uh, and uh alright and and a man who has money is a 289: millionaire. well-off. well-to-do. Interviewer: okay. r- uh {NW} 289: he's on easy street. Interviewer: Okay bu the opposite kinda man is a when a man has no money you might call him a 289: what's- poor? Interviewer: Okay. okay. how about, um if uh if if if you had an orchard 289: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: and you're- alright you don't have an orchard. you're sitting you own a house next to a guy that owns an orchard. 289: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: and uh um a man comes up to you and says do you own that orchard? and the uh {NS} the owner is walking right in front of your house at that time and you would say no I'm just a neighbor and pointing to you s- 289: He owns it. Interviewer: #1 You'd say he's the man- # 289: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # 289: #2 # {NW} no he's the owner. or it belongs to him. Interviewer: alright. completing this- what I say. He's the man 289: that owns it. Interviewer: Okay. and uh uh when I- I might say when I was when i was a boy my father was poor but next door was a boy the opposite 289: richer? Interviewer: yeah but alright. just complete the sentence. when I was- uh please. when I was a boy my father was poor but next door was a boy 289: who's fa- no. his father was poorer? no. richer? Interviewer: Alright I'm just mainly after the- {NS} the uh one element in there that you probably didn't think about. {NS} {NS} how how are you on state capitals? 289: oh gee I haven't had that since I was in seventh grade Interviewer: ah these are easier. {X} Here's here's a couple of them if um so you know {NW} when someone um you know like for gratitude someone says well I much 289: {NW} appreciate it. Interviewer: okay. or how about I much you ever heard anybody use another word there? I much a- 289: I appreciate what you done I much appreciate it. Interviewer: okay how about you might say he wouldn't accept a coat even though he was shivering in the cold because he didn't want to be blank to blank. 289: beholden. Interviewer: Okay. 289: he didn't want to owed you anyth- {NW} owed to you anything. didn't want to owe you a favor or s- Interviewer: okay so he didn't want to be beholden to 289: to you. or to me. Interviewer: or to okay and uh someone asks you about sundown to do some work and you say I got up before sun-up and I blank all the work I'm gonna do. 289: {NW} you done all- I've done all the work I'm gonna do. Interviewer: okay. and uh if you're talking about the fact that so few of your old friends are still alive you might say I spent all week looking for my high school classmates and seems that they're all 289: {NW} gone. Interviewer: {NS} Okay. 289: And my class all of them's been {NW} I think I'm the only one left single so I think they've all been married at least once or twice. Interviewer: once or twice? yeah. yeah. yeah that's uh yeah that's the way it is. I'm gonna try to see some of mine before I go back up. Okay. let's say there was a terrible accident on the road and uh It's really strange when you go back a long time and you think there's a bunch of kids and been married two or three times. 289: they say well half of them tell me that I'm that they wish they were me. and hadn't been. and I say well I really rather have been you and never tried once. Didn't work out. Interviewer: Yeah {NW} um okay say there was a terrible accident up the road. but there was no need to call a doctor because the victim was blank by the time we got there. 289: {NW} He was dead. Interviewer: Okay. And uh {NS} and and in such a situation you you might say he blank to be more careful 289: {NW} he ought to be more careful. he ought to have been more careful. Interviewer: okay. excuse me. and I might say I'll dare you to go through the graveyard at night but I'll bet you 289: that you won't Interviewer: okay would you ever hear anybody or have you ever heard anybody use dare? and not contracted together? 289: dare not no. not daren't. {NW} Interviewer: daren't. 289: no. Interviewer: is that too 289: {NW} I think that's no I think that's more something that you'd expect people from um what {NW} {NW} I don't know if you call them hillbillies or up in the hills {NW} plus you all is not used down here as much as what people just they think that 'cause you're from the south that you use you all all the time. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 People in Georgia always used to- # And that was- 289: Georgia and Alabama around that way I think they would. Interviewer: {X} 289: But I don't think kids down this way they wouldn't use dare think they would say you uh um chick in the dryer or um you haven't got enough guts. or your mother would get you if you did it. something like that. Interviewer: okay um um okay How about um a boy got a whipping and you might say I'll bet he did something he 289: shouldn't have done. Interviewer: okay. would there be another way you could use a word there instead of shouldn't have? 289: {X} he ought not to have done. Interviewer: yeah. would you ever say oughtn't 289: oughtn't. not oughtn't have. no I think I would say shouldn't have done. Interviewer: Okay. how about uh you knew talking to somebody uh you knew when you first agreed to go that you blank to tell your mother 289: {NW} you were supposed to tell your mother. Interviewer: okay how about using uh which one would you use with you know the ones we've been talking about? 289: that you sh you were supposed to tell your mother. you ought to have told your mother. or you agreed to tell your mother. Interviewer: okay. you aren't doing what you blank to do. 289: what you ought to do or what you should have done. Interviewer: okay. and uh uh someone might was will you do it? and you say no I 289: No I won't {NW} Interviewer: and um uh and when when you get something done that well uh that was hard work and you had to do it all by yourself and and your friend was standing there the whole time and uh uh standing around without helping you say you 289: could have helped or offered to help. Interviewer: okay. and uh another way of showing you might uh okay. suggesting the possibility of being able to do something okay? uh you say I'm not sure but I 289: {NW} think I can. Interviewer: okay. or you or you say if it quits raining by Thursday I blank get the yard work finished. 289: {NW} I will get the yard work done. Interviewer: if- yeah. if but you're saying if it if it quits raining I 289: If it will. quit raining I'll get the work {NW} get the yard done. Interviewer: alright now now just suggesting the possibility though. and not some you know just the possibility not so much that you're going to will it. 289: {NW} If it quits raining by Thursday I'll get the yard done. Interviewer: Okay. would you ever say anything like I might? 289: {NW} Well knowing me working in the yard I might get it done. I'm not too thrilled about the yard. Interviewer: How about uh what kind of a bird is it that can see in the dark has eyes in the front? 289: Owl Interviewer: Do you know of any different kinds? 289: No. just a plain owl. Interviewer: okay. how about the kind of bird that pecks 289: woodpecker? Interviewer: yeah you ever heard any other names for that? any you know natives around here 289: No. {NW] Interviewer: especially blacks that might call it something else? 289: No. to me it's a woodpecker's a woodpecker. Interviewer: okay you ever had any of those out here? 289: {NW} sometimes in the winter I've seen some. come down but that's about it. Interviewer: you ever hear anybody call them peckerwood? 289: yeah. but not on key west. Interviewer: okay would that be up on the mainland? 289: {NW} that would be mostly from in the movies. TV something like that. Interviewer: okay. how about a a grass uh 289: grasshopper? Interviewer: Yeah How about 289: grasshopper um {NS} there's another name I've heard but grasshopper oh like jimmy cricket. Interviewer: yeah well 289: when I was a kid they called them jimmy crickets Interviewer: you ever heard anybody invert that one? 289: what hopper-grass? No. Interviewer: okay. How about uh the black and white animal with a very powerful smell? 289: {NW} skunk Interviewer: okay any other names? 289: yep. was it- peewee? No. pee- it's a skunk. Interviewer: okay if animals you know you said you had something rats or something like that that would constantly get in at your chickens you'd say those are What kind o- 289: Rodents? Interviewer: yeah 289: pest Interviewer: yeah. any other? Var- 289: Varmints. Interviewer: does var- do they ever use varmints here much? 289: not too much. Interviewer: does what what does a varmint mean to you? 289: varmint would be more or less a rat something that would destroy it. {NW} course you could say that uh you could call a fox if you have in your area a varmint. get into your chicken coop and try to do things or your sheep. Interviewer: okay. just something that's a pest? animal that's about it. how about a bushy-tailed animal in the treetops and city streets you know that 289: Porcupine? No porcupine not on city streets. Interviewer: You know they have them in parks. 289: Squirrels? Interviewer: Yeah you ever know what the different colored squirrels you know that- you have any squirrels out here? 289: {NW} we have some. people have as a pet but I don't know whether that I mean I've heard of people having them. Squirrels {NW} you can find some they real small ones up in uh around pine key and the everglades but that's about it. {NS} Interviewer: real small. what color are they do you know? 289: {NW} sort of a pepperish white gray? Black and white? brown and white something like that. Interviewer: you ever heard of any other colored squirrels 289: I've heard of a ring-tail squirrel I think. Interviewer: okay how about um uh any 289: they have- oh they have a a squirrel in the squirrel family that can fly. Interviewer: Not here? 289: Not here. That's from television. Interviewer: Oh. How about something that looks like a squirrel but doesn't have that big fluffy tail and doesn't climb trees. They're found in the same places and parks. They got the little stripes on their back and. 289: Possums? Interviewer: #1 No they- # 289: #2 No. # Interviewer: they look just like a little squirrel but they don't have that big tail. 289: looks like a squirrel but doesn't have a big tail. Nope. Ch- Chipmunks? No. Interviewer: Yeah. 289: I haven't seen one of them. Except you know Interviewer: In uh 289: travel things. Interviewer: Alright what kind of fish can people get around here? 289: ah. Interviewer: now we're getting back {NW} 289: Fish I know. okay grunts, yellowtail, snappers, muttonfish, jew fish, kingfish, groupers, uh dolphin, marlin swordfish have uh blowfish have uh what they call a porgy fish Interviewer: Do you get a chance to fish much here? 289: when my father was alive when he had a boat we would go out. and then my brother-in-law he had his boat and we would go out. but now catching fish you have to go further and further out all the time. Interviewer: is it getting that bad? 289: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: why is that? is it just- 289: thing people is- it's just so many people doing it I think Interviewer: It's not like pollution or something is it? 289: {NW} No I think they're- mean we're not the best on being you know about polluting the water {NW} but compared to other places when I've seen when I travel we're not that bad. Interviewer: okay. how about uh the things that pearls grow in? 289: {NW} oysters. Interviewer: alright you ever get any of those around here? 289: hmm. oyst- well we don't get the shell oysters we get them you know already packaged in the can {NW} get oysters now. {NW} oysters is good. {NW} and lobsters. crawfish. we don't call them lobsters. {NW} they call them either crawfish or langouste. Interviewer: longous- now that's like the 289: It's like a Maine lobster except we don't have the biters. {NW} and our lobsters are supposed to be a sweeter meat to them. Interviewer: Now you call them crawfish even though they're not like the you know those ones that those little bitty ones that they got in those freshwater streams on the mainland. they look like 289: No they're crayfish aren't they? Interviewer: yeah. 289: uh-huh that's up around New Orleans. Interviewer: okay. How about the little fantail uh sometimes th- they used to use them for bait but I think they're too expensive now. 289: Mullets? Interviewer: no the the ones they catch them at night. 289: shrimp? Interviewer: yeah. n- 289: we wouldn't use them as bait not in my family. We use them to eat. Interviewer: Right. How about if you had four or five of them you'd say those are 289: just some shrimp. Interviewer: okay. and one of them. okay. 289: Shrimp. Interviewer: and uh 289: try turtle steak. Interviewer: what how is- have you I mean the 289: you can't get it right now. they've outlawed the um catching of turtle steak. because it was killing {NW} they're not supposed to kill them anymore. they've outlawed it. Interviewer: that's now these are the hardshell the water ones? 289: the green turtles that come down from the {NW} tortugas or the baha- um honduras bush honduras. bring them in here they used to slaughter them here and ship them out. {NW} now that's good. Interviewer: how about um the type that looks like the sea thing the turtle in the ocean but uh they're on land. 289: Right gopher? Interviewer: yeah they have any of those in the keys? 289: yes you can find those. Interviewer: uh the uh mark this so I don't forget the um {NW} ever hear those called anything else? 289: Gophers. No land turtles. Interviewer: Okay how about the things that people use in freshwater to go fishing with? dig them out of the ground. 289: worms? Interviewer: yeah you ever hear them called anything else? 289: No. {X} you wouldn't I haven't ever heard of anyone using worms down here. Interviewer: okay how about the thing that uh-