Interviewer: boards that lap on the outside of the house that lap over each other you know? 299: Oh well we called that weather weather boarding Interviewer: Okay 299: block. Now there are things like clap clapboard or something but I don't know for sure but uh the houses say kind of like this one on the outside we call it just weather boarding. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And that's usually what we called it. Interviewer: Where did you hear the other word? 299: Clapboard? Interviewer: Yeah where'd you? 299: I don't really know probably and uh I've I've heard of these uh you know old houses and I've seen some old houses you know that have fallen down that have these what they called I call clapboard roofs that actually looks like little wooden shingles. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: That's that look lays in layers. A lot of the old houses I've seen falling down have those clapboard roofs I call them. Interviewer: Mm-hmm Okay um say if you were um going to hang up a picture or something you'd say I took the hammer and I what? 299: Drove the nail I Interviewer: Okay and if it didn't get in far enough you say the nails got to be? What in further? 299: Drove in further is what I'd say. {NW} Interviewer: And you'd say say say you you pick up the the hammer and you what the nail in further? 299: Drive drive the nail in further. Interviewer: Okay And um the part that that covers the the top of the house is called the? 299: Roof Interviewer: Okay and the um the little things on the edge of the roof that carry the water off? 299: Gutters Interviewer: Is that built into the house or built into the roof or does that hang or? 299: Well now this house they're just they're just uh fastened on Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: but uh in in older houses they're not actually they're just wired on sometimes they're just actually just kind of laying at the eaves of the houses and just run down into something you know. Interviewer: What about say if you have a house at an L you know up on the roof where the two of them come together you have the? 299: Oh I guess I'd call it eave of the house I don't know. Interviewer: Okay and um what are some of the buildings that you'd have outside on a farm? 299: Well Interviewer: #1 Besides the house # 299: #2 course # the barn course you have your barn. Interviewer: Uh-huh what do you keep in the barn? 299: Well horses you mean what kind of animals? Interviewer: Yeah 299: Horses and of course cows and uh and uh mostly horses and cows because you don't keep hogs in the barn usually then you usually have a hog you might have hog shelters or hog pens. With uh little hog shelters and they stay there. And then you have a crib corn crib. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And then you'd have uh sometimes you'd have wagon sheds. And then we had a wood shed and we had a smoke house and we had a wood shed and we had what we called a wash house. See where mother kept her washing machine. She'd uh course I could still remember I remember when she didn't have even washing machine and she had the rub board and the tubs. And then we had a toilet that's when we didn't we had just an outdoor toilet. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: And Interviewer: Did that have any other names? besides outdoor toilet? 299: Uh a lot of people just say out house the out house. Now but other than that I don't know any just we always called it the toilet. Mm So that's that's all that we actually had. Interviewer: Where'd you keep grain? 299: Um well like corn in the corn field but other than that we didn't actually have any anything much that would be ah so I just said corn in the corn crib and then we didn't have if you had wheat sometimes people used to have wheat houses now one of our neighbors had what they called a wheat house but oh we didn't actually have what we called a wheat house. They actually poured the wheat grain in there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: But we didn't have one. Interviewer: You ever heard of a granary? 299: I've heard of 'em but I'm not even familiar with them. Interviewer: They never had them in this area? 299: I don't think so uh-uh. It's not even a thing that I am really familiar with. Interviewer: Yeah what where did you keep hay? 299: We kept it in the loft of the barn. See that's the barn had a a loft Interviewer: Uh huh 299: and uh so we kept hay up in it. Interviewer: How was your barn laid out? 299: Well it had the had the big hallway going through the middle of it with the two big doors that opened and then on each side of that big hallway you had your stables. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: Individual stables and stalls they called them. And they had on one the first room was always your gear room Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: where all the horses' gear and everything was kept and then in all those other stables is where the cows and horses went. Then a you went up a ladder on each side of that hallway up into first it was this lower these lower compartments where they put hay then a upper compartment you put hay. And we actually had one of these hay forks that uh hang in the front of the barn that Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: that the they can unload the hay with that hay fork and carried it up to the barn. Interviewer: Do they call both of those you said they had two levels? 299: Yeah we just all called it the hay loft both of them. Because I don't know why that middle compartment was actually raised higher than the two side ones I don't know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: But actually the two lower part really made the made the the tops of your stables your stables down below see that was actually the roof of your stables. But it was also the floor of that arm. But then this middle section I don't know why it was higher I really don't. Interviewer: Just it just goes sort of like this then? 299: It yeah yeah it did that it it just went like that. You know. And uh you actually had to sort of jump from that top part down to this other loft even. There was a space in there you could have actually fell through down into the the hallway of you know the barn. {NW} So it was kind of dangerous. Interviewer: I don't guess anyone ever actually fell through though. 299: However different ones have fell out however quite a few people have fallen out of lofts and jumping out on rusty nails. That happened a lot. Interviewer: Ew. 299: I knew a girl that jumped out on a rusty nail and she's actually had her leg taken off since. It happened when she's a child Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: It shot up this you know um blood poison whatever. Interviewer: Yeah 299: First they took her heel off then they took her foot off and then they took her leg off at the knee. Well she kept on it until they taken her leg off from that in appeared from from the time she's a child just stepping on that rusty nail until she was grown. I don't it just never would completely feel right or heal I guess it just she like to died I guess. Cuz a rusty nail around a barn seems one of the most dangerous things. Interviewer: Yeah 299: Cuz it's got all that tetanus whatever it is you know. Interviewer: Yeah 299: It's dangerous Interviewer: Um say if you had too much hay to put put up in the loft? 299: You'd put in a hay stack. Interviewer: Okay well what did that look like? 299: Well uh our hay stacks at home was nothing but a big they'd take a big long pole Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: and drive it in the middle in the ground and then they would unload hay around it and build it up until it would actually all be built around this pole. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And it would just be formed just like that just a hay stack and uh that that also do uh now it was wheat stacks we used to have wheat and it would thrash wheat but we always put our wheat in just sacks you know when it thrash and but then your wheat straw also went into these stacks. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And a wheat a wheat stack is a good place to play. It you can slide off that straw it's slick and oh it's fun to play on. Interviewer: {NW} Do you ever see any other um you ever see a covered hay stack? 299: I have seen 'em mm-hmm Interviewer: Or something with a roof to it sort of? 299: No really I haven't. Interviewer: What was the covered hay stack like? 299: No the covered hay stacks I'm familiar with I've seen hay stacks just out in the open like that it would actually have something like a wagon sheet or a covering that they would just fasten down probably through this pole and just let it hang around it. That's about all I am familiar with as far as a being covered you know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm Do you ever see hay kept out in a field in anything any other construction I'd guess you say besides a hay stack? Do you ever see something with more than one pole you know it just sort of loosely maybe sort of long shaped? 299: No really I haven't now baled hay we've had course baled hay. But no I haven't really. Uh in fact before course when back from when we used to cut hay you'd haul to the barn before we actually had baled hay we made hay shocks we shocked hay they called it. And what you did you actually put it in these little individual shocks and they'd come along with a wagon and use these pitch forks and loaded it on the the wagon right there. But first they'd rake it with a the mule you'd say. And then we would have to shock it they called it into little individual shocks. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: Then they'd haul it to the barn. Interviewer: I see. Um you mentioned you had cows did you ever um have any special places for keeping the cows maybe a fenced in place to 299: We took Interviewer: milk them in or? 299: We just called it the lot in other words you had your barn and then then around the barn it is always fenced in and that fenced in place is called the lot. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: Course a lot of people would say the barnyard or something like that but we didn't we'd always just called it the lot. Interviewer: Is it did you ever have any where did you milk them? Say 299: Well mother used to milk them in this uh either in this hallway of the barn or in these little individual stalls. You know these little she {X} down for the front of each individual stables. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And and milk 'em and then run them back out into the pasture or back out in to the lot. Where ever they's gonna stay. And uh but she always milks there in the hallway of the barn. Interviewer: Mm-hmm You ever hear of a a cow pen or a milk gap or any sort of small fenced in area? That you might 299: I've heard of the milk gap but just heard of it I don't I'm not familiar with it. Interviewer: Okay um and where'd you where did people used to keep their milk and butter? Before they had refrigerators have you ever? 299: Well mother kept hers in the cellar uh-huh we had uh just a cellar underneath the smoke house and it was one of these that uh you've heard of a cellar they had the cellar doors those little slant doors that you raised and actually went down into the cellar. And my grandmother they had a spring. And course my husband's mother they have a spring and they actually kept their butter in the spring and they have what they call a milk box in the spring which was just a little wooden box and they set their milk and their butter in some kind of container down in that box to keep it from floating away. But all we ever had was a cellar. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And we usually had to keep tubs of water in the cellar and keep the milk in the sitting in that water. Interviewer: You get water from the spring or something? 299: Well we had just a cistern we didn't have a spring so that's all we had was just a cistern. So it wasn't actually very cold we thought it was cause we didn't know what cold was. And so that that was the only thing and we we didn't even have an ice box until you know I mean well these old ice boxes where you actually put the big blocks of ice in it until uh finally we got electricity when I was oh I was a pretty good size and got a refrigerator then. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: But up until that we kept it in the cellar. Interviewer: What about um what about a place now where where they might have milked cows and and a big farm where they have nothing but these cows? 299: Like dairies or something? Interviewer: Uh-huh Did you ever hear that word um dairy used for anything to refer to anything besides this farm? 299: No not really. No I guess I haven't Interviewer: Okay um where would you let your animals out to graze? 299: In the pasture. Interviewer: Did you was this was fenced in? 299: Mm-hmm you ours was yeah. Interviewer: Uh huh do I guess this would be before your time but um a long time ago you know when they didn't have um laws that said 299: Yeah Interviewer: you had to? 299: That's right the no fence laws. Interviewer: Uh-huh do you know where where you'd let them out then? 299: No I don't Interviewer: I mean would you call that the pasture? 299: Well they really grazed on the open range maybe I don't know. They called it a I don't know. Interviewer: Okay um and you know when what do you say when you do when you you take a hoe and and get the grass out between the? 299: Well we always called it we hoed the corn but now most people say we chopped corn we chopped at the corn or looked at. We never did call it chopping corn well we called it hoeing corn. Interviewer: Uh-huh What about cotton? 299: Well see we never did have cotton here. But most people say chop cotton. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: But uh we never did have cotton. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And actually there's a difference in chopping at corn and this hoeing corn really in a way. Interviewer: What's that? 299: Chopping when you chop that corn you just chop the weeds out but when you actually hoe something you you may rake the dirt to the corn you know. Interviewer: I see 299: But uh we always just said we hoed corn Interviewer: Okay um corn would grow in a what? 299: A little you mean Interviewer: Yeah what what would you call? 299: A corn field really Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: just a field. Or a new ground course. Interviewer: What's new ground? 299: It's just uh cleared land that's never been used before. Where you've actually gone out and cut the trees and bushes out and and we had lots of those too. And then raise corn for the first time in what you call new ground. But uh well you just called it the corn field or the corn patch I guess. Interviewer: Corn patch? 299: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Is that the same is the patch the same as a field? 299: Well the patch is usually a smaller place. Interviewer: What sort of things grew in a patch? 299: Well uh we always had potato patch and we said tobacco patch cause you usually had a small patch of tobacco and uh pea patch Interviewer: Uh-huh did you have turnips? 299: Turnip patch yeah patch that's that's all I can think of right now. Interviewer: Okay um and kinds of fences that that you might have? 299: Well you have the barbed wire Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: barbed wire fences or the rail fences. Interviewer: What what did the rail fence look like? 299: Well it was made out of wood and uh we actually had one of those when I was growing up but we don't have any more. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: But they just they just long rails of wood and they're stacked and then criss crossed. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And uh they did have three or four uh rails to to a section. Cross 'em and just that and continue on till you'd make your fence. Interviewer: Do you ever hear different types of rail fences? 299: I'm not familiar with them see just that one we had and that's all that I know. Interviewer: You ever heard of uh a worm rail fence or 299: No I haven't Interviewer: straight rail fence or? 299: I've heard of straight rails but I've never heard of worm rails. Interviewer: Okay um and say if you were going to put up a barbed wire fence you'd you say you'd have to dig holes for the? 299: Posts Interviewer: Okay and um so you'd so you say you you'd dig the hole and then you'd set the? 299: You'd set the post in it. Interviewer: Okay um and what about a kind of uh a fence that you might have around a garden? 299: Well Interviewer: Or your yard. 299: You mean like a picket fence or? Interviewer: Uh-huh what what's a picket fence like? 299: Well a picket fence is it's made out of wood and has those uh pickets which it's just individual planks with a pointed top. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And we never did have one of those either but I've seen it. Interviewer: You ever seen um anything else similar to that or any other name for that? 299: No I really haven't. Now we've had plank fences but we did ours is what you call plank plus times where you would uh you'd have your post and then you'd just take uh two planks maybe or sometimes three planks and drive a plank running from this post to this one. And you'd do three rows of them and continue on like that. We had them sometimes around our backyard or around the orchard or something like that. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of paling fence or slat fence or? 299: I've heard of paling fences but I'm not familiar with them. Interviewer: Okay um and what about a you ever heard of gathering some rocks or stone from I guess the from a field? 299: We'll pick up rocks we'd pick up rocks. Interviewer: Uh-huh Did you ever hear of making a a fence or wall out of them? 299: Yeah I've seen 'em but we never but we didn't actually make a fence ourselves. But yeah I've seen them these rock walls. A lot of people used to use that quite a bit and use the gravel or something that made that concrete and mix it in and make those rock fences. I've seen them built. We didn't have one. Interviewer: Okay um say if you had a really good set of dishes chances are they'd be made out of? 299: China Interviewer: Okay do you ever see an egg made out of this? 299: Uh no Interviewer: What what would you call that? 299: A egg made out of china? Interviewer: Uh-huh {C: Overlaid} 299: I don't know. Interviewer: Uh I mean say say if um you know put in a hen's nest to make 299: Oh {NW} yeah a egg. We called them {C: Overlaid} Now we didn't have a fake egg or a we called 'em now we didn't have china eggs but we had uh egg semblance we called it Interviewer: {D: Simlines?} 299: {D: Simlines} and I think what it was they were gourds. They were little gourds. And we called them egg {D: simlines} but I since I got old enough to know I think what we was really meaning they were {D: simlines} they looked similar to eggs. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: But old people call them egg {D: simlines} and they were little gourds in the shape of eggs. Interviewer: Huh 299: And they put them in the hens nest to make them set or or their setting egg as they call it. Interviewer: Yeah What did you used to carry water in? 299: Well uh we just called it a bucket now somebody people say pails. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: But we just used a bucket water bucket. Interviewer: What about what did you milk in? 299: Just we called it milk buckets Interviewer: Was it made out of metal or? 299: Yeah uh mother usually used these they called them these flat tin buckets they were yeah they were metal buckets. Flat buckets Interviewer: Do you ever see anything slightly different that people used to to milk in maybe something that had a handle to it or? 299: A stewer now mother would milk in a stewer sometimes and then pour it in her bucket. Interviewer: What's a stewer? 299: Well it's actually a a pot like you cook in Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: we called them stewers. Interviewer: I I sort of I heard that before and I was sort of picturing a pot but I didn't know. 299: They're just these what you'd cook in nowadays with a handle a long handle there just a pot that you'd cook in. But we called them stewers. Interviewer: I see. And what about something that you might keep in the kitchen that throws scraps in for the pigs? 299: Slop bucket Interviewer: Okay um and what is what sort of things do you use to cook in? Or did you use to cook in? 299: Well uh course these skillet black iron skillets and those uh we had um the we called it the pot but it was one of those black iron pots. And uh bakers they're these little black the skillets that don't have any sides to it like you uh cook hoe cakes on or cornbread. And uh course just stewers and pots. That's all I know. Interviewer: What's a hoe cake made out of? 299: Uh just corn meal and uh well you can make it out of corn meal and uh hot water. Or you can make them out of cornmeal and buttermilk. And fry them. Interviewer: Do you ever see anything um that had little legs on it? Thing that that 299: Oh sort of like a skillet? Interviewer: Uh-huh with legs on it. 299: Well now they make these little skillets with the handles that have legs but mother mother's uh she called it her pot like she cooked boiled everything in it. It was one of these black iron pots and it had three little legs {C: Overlaid} and on it and uh and that's all she had with the three legs on it. But her cooking pot the one of those big old black cast iron pots it had three little legs. Interviewer: Yeah 299: And uh you could either set it up on those legs on top of these wood stoves or you what she used it most of the time she takes these what you call the caps out of that black iron stove you know we they got these little uh where electric stove has burners they have caps they call it. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: And you take one of those out and the pot actually fits down in there. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: And that's the way she cooked with her pot most of the time and she also has the black cast iron tea kettle. That she still uses and she keeps it setting down on the on one of those caps some times. She just takes the cap out of the stove and it fits down in the stove. Interviewer: Do you have any of those things yourself? 299: I don't have any. But now my sister in law she collects that type of stuff you know. But uh I don't have uh one of those black iron any of that black iron stuff except the skillets I have the black iron skillet. But you know it's really a collectors item nowadays. Interviewer: Oh yeah 299: And mother's still cooking in hers. Interviewer: {NW} Um what might you put flowers in? 299: Well just flower pots or Interviewer: Is that growing flowers or? 299: Mm-hmm Interviewer: What about if if they're cut? 299: Vases Interviewer: Okay and um say if you're setting the table and you'd put out a plate and then you'd give everyone a what? 299: Knife and a fork and a spoon. Interviewer: Okay and say if you serve steak and it wasn't very tender you'd have to put out? 299: Steak knife Interviewer: Huh? 299: Steak knife Interviewer: Okay what and you put out several of these you know you'd say you'd have several steak? 299: Knives Interviewer: Okay and um say after you've cleared the table and put the food away then the next thing you have to do is? 299: Uh wash the dishes. Interviewer: Okay and what do you call that cloth or rag you use when you're washing the dishes? 299: Uh see I'd say a dish rag. Interviewer: Okay and what about when you are drying them? 299: I call it a drying rag Interviewer: Okay and the thing that you um use to bathe your face with 299: I call it a wash rag. {NW} Interviewer: Okay and then you dry yourself off with a? 299: Towel Interviewer: Okay and you say um after she washes the dishes then she runs clear water over them and she? 299: Rinses them Interviewer: Okay and um say if you wanted to to get some water you'd go to the sink and you'd turn on the? 299: Faucet Interviewer: Huh? 299: The faucet Interviewer: Okay and um what about something similar to that that you might have in the yard to hook your hose up to? 299: Well uh I'd say uh outside faucet now some people say spicket. Interviewer: Okay um what about um something that that flour used to come in? A long time ago they used a big 299: A flour barrels. Interviewer: Okay um and what about molasses? What did that come in? 299: You mean? Well course we always had it usually in buckets when I was when we bought it at home molasses bucket. Interviewer: Do you ever hear another expression used say if you had about six six gallons you'd call that a? 299: A stand of molasses from we we had enlarged stands or something we called them stands of molasses. Interviewer: Okay um okay and on a barrel you know say if you had a um something that say if you had a a barrel used for water and you had something on there that you could um turn to get the water. 299: Well just like in my granddaddy's store uh he had a vinegar barrel when I was a child. That's why everyone that came to the store to get vinegar is that what you're talkin about? They would bring their own jug and he would uh {C: Overlaid} well I called it a little old pump. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: Uh well it was kind of a little old pump {C: Phone ring} and he pumped the vinegar {NS} Interviewer: Did you ever have something that on a barrel though that you could turn down at the bottom to let the water run out or vinegar run out? Something similar to a faucet. 299: Oh well off hand I can't even think of what you'd call but back I can remember when uh men that worked in the field had these little there were little small barrels water barrels they called it and they had a little uh they had a little just a little piece of cork in a hole that uh but I don't know what they'd call it. Interviewer: Okay um you'd say it was so cold last night that the water pipes? 299: Froze Interviewer: And what? 299: Well I'd say busted if I was at home {NW} but really no this is why usually when I'm here I always say they busted. Interviewer: Yeah 299: But really you know if I was at work or somewhere I'd they bursted. {NW} Interviewer: Okay and you say um if you stuck a pen in a ballon it would? 299: Bu- ah see at home I'd say bust [NW} Interviewer: Okay 299: but really burst. {C: Overlaid} Interviewer: And you say um so you say is um you turn on the water and nothing comes out of the faucet you'd say the water pipes must have? 299: Busted Interviewer: Okay 299: Well really the that's what I find myself doing cuz I grew up saying one thing but you know a lot of things I know the difference. Interviewer: Yeah 299: Only there's one word that I've that I've always said that we always said that a I didn't actually know that it wasn't right until I people begin to laugh at me. {C: Overlaid} And that's when if you see a snake Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: I'll say it was cwailed up. Have you ever heard anybody say that? It's just saying it was coiled up Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: or it was curled up. I'd say well it was all cwailed up. And see I didn't really realize the word wasn't even a word until people begin to laugh at me when I said it. Interviewer: Well sure it's a word if people around here use it. {NW} 299: So that's some of my words that's where they are. Interviewer: Never heard that one. 299: That's what we've always said but it really means coiled you see but we said cwailed. And I said it one day at work and this man laughed and he says I've heard one other person say that word and I got so tickled when I heard her say it. Said was she talking about seeing a snake? And she said it was all she said he said I can't think of the word she used and I said cwailed? He said that's it I said that's what I've always said. {NW} Interviewer: That's interesting I've never heard that but um say if you wanted to pour something into say a something like a coke bottle that had a real narrow mouth you'd use a? 299: Funnel Interviewer: Hm? 299: Funnel Interviewer: Okay and um say if you were uh driving horses and you wanted to to go faster you'd hit him with a? 299: Uh well a whip is what we always had at home. One of these whips. Interviewer: Do you use the same thing on on mules? 299: We did Interviewer: Whip? 299: We just had a a we called it a wagon whip. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 299: #2 It was just a long # had a long handle and a big long lash thing on it and that's we just had the one. Interviewer: What What different animals did you have work animals? What different work animals did you have? 299: Well a growing when I was growing up we had a pair of mules and we had a then we also at different times had a maybe a horse a a riding horse or a mare. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And then we had a at one time we had a jenny. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And a little cart to go with it. And uh but I guess that's all the work animals. Interviewer: Did you ever see any work animals similar to um I guess similar to bulls? 299: Oxen The a they used to have oxen but I've never seen one. Interviewer: Have you ever seen them work or heard about them what you'd call them working together? 299: A team of oxen. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: Now I just read about 'em see this is all I'm familiar with. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: The yoke of oxen the team of oxen. I've never even seen any. That that is beyond my time a bit. {NW} Interviewer: Say if you bought some apples or something at the store the grocer would put them in a? 299: Sack I'd say Interviewer: Okay what would it be made out of? 299: Well course nowadays it would be a a paper sack but now I can remember when they were these a burlap sacks or bra- uh grass sacks or something. Interviewer: Mm-hmm What is there any other name for burlap sack? 299: Well some people might say grass sack I don't know. Interviewer: What what did feed used to come in? 299: Well usually those burlap sacks. Interviewer: Uh-huh have you ever heard that called tow sack or gunny sack? 299: Oh yeah tow sacks we always called them tow sacks um {C: Overlaid} is what we always called them but I didn't even think about that. Interviewer: What did what did potatoes what would they come in what would they be shipped in? 299: Well those tow sacks really. Interviewer: Okay And um say what if you bought about fifty pounds of flour what would that come in? 299: Well uh it used to come in those cloth sacks. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: But I don't know what just what you'd call them. Flour sack Interviewer: Yeah um and say if you were going to take some some corn to the mill to be ground what would you call the the amount you would take at one time? 299: Like a peck of mill a peck of Interviewer: Uh-huh #1 but would you have # 299: #2 A bush # Interviewer: would you have a an expression you'd use not referring to the exact quantity but do you ever say I'm gonna take a something of corn to the mill? 299: No really I took it. We have when I was growing up we did my daddy grandad had the grocery store also had the mill. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: And I've actually taken corn to the mill. In fact I rode the jenny one time mother was out of meal and the men were all at work and you see so she just got a sack of uh corn Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: and uh she was going to put me and the corn on the jenny to ride to the mill cause it's about a mile and she was gonna walk along beside. And we like never got up there but when we got the meal ground the corn ground got the mill well she put me and the meal back on the jenny and the jenny was so stubborn and the type that didn't want to go to the store but he knew the way back home. Interviewer: Yeah 299: So he ran all the way back home and we left her a long ways behind. But I don't know what you'd call the amount. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of a turn? 299: Turn I've heard of it but never did say it that's what the older people said. Interviewer: What's that? 299: Turn of corn or Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: I've heard it but I would I never did say it myself. Interviewer: Yeah um what would you call the amount of wood that you can carry in both your arms? You'd say you had a? 299: I just say a load. Interviewer: Yeah um or but say it's it's all you can carry in both your arms you'd say you have an arm what? 299: Arm load of wood. Interviewer: Okay um and um say say someone had a a wagon and his wagon was half full of wood you'd say he had a what of wood? 299: I'd stil say he had a load of wood. Interviewer: Yeah do you ever hear jag? 299: Yeah I have a jag of wood. I've heard of it yeah. Interviewer: Does did it refer to? 299: Any particular amount no it didn't just meant a it was just some wood. Interviewer: Okay um say if the lamp on the porch wasn't burning you'd tell someone to screw in a new what? 299: Bulb Interviewer: Okay and um if you were carrying the wash out to hang it on the line you might carry it out in a clothes? 299: Basket or Interviewer: Okay and um what did nails come in? 299: Nail kegs {NW} kegs Yeah I remember when they did Interviewer: Yeah 299: nail kegs. {C: Overlaid} Interviewer: You know um in a in a barrel or I I don't know if a keg or kag would have this but in a barrel you have something that would run around it to hold the wood in place? 299: Yeah uh Interviewer: It would hold the staves in place. 299: Mm-hmm. 299: But I can't think of what they were called they were I don't know what they were called. Interviewer: Did you ever hear start some a word starting with an h? 299: Hoop Interviewer: Uh-huh does that sound? 299: It sounds like it might be a hoop Interviewer: Okay um and suppose you opened a filled up a bottle and um and you'd want to stick something in it so that the liquid wouldn't come out? 299: Stick a cork in it. Interviewer: Okay um what would the cork be made of? 299: Cork Interviewer: Have you you'd never um have you ever seen anything made of of glass? #1 Maybe that you stick down there. # 299: #2 Yeah # A glass in other words a well sorta like a Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: like that one up there. Interviewer: Would you call that a #1 a cork too? # 299: #2 a cork # Interviewer: I mean even if it was made of glass? 299: You know I don't know what I'd call it really. I don't. {C: Overlaid} Interviewer: What you're familiar with is just a 299: #1 Just a stopper # Interviewer: #2 A thing that's made of # 299: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 299: It's just a bottle stopper in other words. Interviewer: Okay um {C: Overlaid} do you know of a a musical instrument that you'd. 299: French harp or harmonica Interviewer: Okay what about something that goes like this? 299: Uh Jew's harp are they Jew's harps? Interviewer: Okay Do you ever remember? 299: Just seen a well pictures of them. Interviewer: Yeah um something that you'd pound nails with would be a? 299: Hammer Interviewer: Okay and um if you had a wagon and two horses {C: overlaid} you know that long wooden piece that comes between the two horses? 299: The tongue Interviewer: Okay and a horse and a buggy you'd when you're gonna hitch him up you'd back him in between the? 299: The staves Interviewer: Okay 299: Staves Interviewer: Do do you remember having horses? 299: Uh yeah actually a I'm not real familiar with buggies but I have seen a few and we did have that little cart you know that I said we had the jenny and the cart and it was it was sorta like a buggy that it had these two uh staves is all I can think of. And you backed that jenny between those to harness him up. {C: overlaid} {NW} So I've I've kinda familiar with it a little bit. Interviewer: Yeah did mainly just the children have the jenny? 299: Yeah my brother bought him for about twenty five dollars it was his jenny. And he was stubborn as a as a mule. Interviewer: {NW} 299: So it was mostly to a play thing kinda. Interviewer: Yeah 299: And uh we would ride him and anytime anybody came any neighbors came they wanted to ride the thing which we'd get tired of cause he was stubborn. And just as soon as you'd get on him to ride him he would head for the clothes line. And then he'd run under the clothes line he'd just nearly strangle your neck. He was mean. He was. Interviewer: Um you know on a wagon wheel starting with the inside you know you have the hub then? 299: The spokes Interviewer: Okay and then the spokes fit into the what? 299: The rim Interviewer: Okay and then what does the rim is the rim the part that touches the ground or do you have something over the rim or? 299: Well there's a wooden there's see there's a wooden piece and then it goes around like that and then it's actually covered with a a steel rim. And then it the outside rim it's it's a steel piece. Interviewer: You call both parts the rim then? 299: Ah that's all I can I know just the rims. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of a fa felly or feller? 299: No Interviewer: When talking about wagon wheels 299: No not familiar with that. Interviewer: Let's see it's something that the spokes fit into something I'm not. 299: I really don't nothing comes to my mind really that I can think of. Interviewer: Yeah okay um say if you have a a horse hitched to a wagon the the thing that the traces are hooked on to is the? 299: The singletree Interviewer: Uh-huh and if you have two horses 299: Double Interviewer: Huh? 299: It's a doubletree. Interviewer: Okay and um say if if there was a a tree limb in the road um and it was too big for you to to carry off you'd say well I just took a took hold of it and I? 299: Pulled it out of the road. Interviewer: Okay or another word instead of pull? 299: You could say you carried it out of the road or moved it out of the road. Interviewer: Okay um what do you what's the first thing you you use in the field when you're getting ready to to plant? 299: Plow Interviewer: Uh-huh what different types of plows are there? 299: Well course when I was a child I would we actually used the uh turning plow. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: To turn I guess that's the first they use the turning plow to break the ground which was pulled by mules. And then they used a {C: overlaid} uh a smaller plow which I can't think of what it was called. It was just a little single plow and uh and then they had a oh a the harrow the called it which harrowed the ground that had forks like this that run through the ground after that. And then they had a I can't think of what it was called something that it was like a board or a log of a thing that you pulled over the ground to smooth it down. But that's all I. Interviewer: Okay um have you I don't have you ever heard of a rastus plow? 299: No I haven't. Interviewer: I ran across that word somewhere and I 299: Well no I'm not familiar with it. {C: overlaid} course you might you might run into anything that I haven't heard of. {C: overlaid} Interviewer: Okay um the thing that the wheels of the wagon fit into the thing that goes across you know is called a? 299: Oh the you mean the thing that runs under the wagon that a axle. Interviewer: Okay um and suppose you were going to um chop some wood or saw some wood you might use a a frame maybe an X shaped frame that you'd lay the wood in? 299: Yeah {C: overlaid} oh that we used them all the time {C: overlaid} {X} off hand I can't think of what's the word just a rack you know. #1 I don't know if we # Interviewer: #2 Ever heard saw? # 299: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Saw buck or saw horse or wood rack or? 299: Well uh no none of the names are real just familiar but we had 'em we even had the plans made out at the wood pile and actually laid the log in it and I actually had to sit on the log while they would my brothers would saw with this uh this uh double saw you know double Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: one on each end. And I've actually sat on the thing the wood while it's in those wood racks but uh what's this called we didn't call them anything. Interviewer: Yeah 299: Saw racks or something. Interviewer: Do you ever see a sorta of A shaped frame you have to it'd have a board going across it and of course you'd you'd have to use two of these? 299: Horses Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: We called them horses. Interviewer: Okay and um you'd say you'd straighten your your hair with a comb and a? 299: Brush Interviewer: Okay and if you were going to use one of these you'd say you were going to what your hair? 299: Brush your hair Interviewer: Okay and um you'd sharpen a straight razor on a leather? 299: Strap Interviewer: Okay and what do you put in a pistol? 299: Bullets Interviewer: Okay but um say in in a shot gun you'd use shells then in a rifle or pistol you might use? 299: Bullets Interviewer: Okay I'm thinking just say or you you'd talk about a a box of twenty two 299: Shot Interviewer: Uh-huh what about the word car-? 299: Cartridge cartridges I couldn't say it. Cartridges. I couldn't say it so I just wouldn't say it. That's right rifle cart cartridges. Interviewer: Okay um what are some things that that a children might play on? That children might play on maybe say something that's you take 299: Seesaws or uh you mean like a a play things outside? {C: overlaid} Well seesaws or merry go rounds or a Interviewer: Would you have another name for merry go round? 299: Spinning jenny or we used to call them. Interviewer: Okay 299: I think we Interviewer: If um you saw some some children playing on the thing that like this you say that they were? 299: Seesawing Interviewer: Okay and um did you ever see a taking taking a um limber plank and fixing it at both ends and children would jump on it? 299: No I'm not familiar with that. Interviewer: You ever heard of a bouncing board or joggling board? 299: No I haven't. Interviewer: Okay and you say you take a a long rope and a {C: overlaid} tie it to a tree limb and put a seat on it and you'd have a? 299: Swing Interviewer: Okay what did you carry coal in? 299: Well uh scuttle I guess but we never did have coal so I wasn't very familiar with coal. Interviewer: Okay and um on a a stove the thing that runs from the stove up to the chimney? 299: Stove pipe Interviewer: Okay and then the stove pipe fits into the? 299: Flue Interviewer: Okay and um the thing that you'd you'd use say if you were going to carry some bricks somewhere you'd put them in a? This thing that has this one little wheel at the front and two handles to it. 299: Wheelbarrow Interviewer: Okay um and what would you use to sharpen your tools on? 299: Oh one of those uh oh grist one of those uh well it's a wheel it's a stone wheel. It's not a grist wheel is it? Interviewer: I don't know 299: I don't either it's I'm just thinking one of those stone looking wheels that you turn and fire flies from it when you sharpen things. But I'm not sure what you call it Interviewer: Have you ever heard it called grind? Grind? 299: Grinding I'm just thinking grist wheel but I don't know. Interviewer: Oh so the big thing that you might use? 299: Yeah just a big it's a big a stone wheel Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: and it's kind of uh I don't know what kind of stone it is but you turn it and you put your tool on it and it will sharpen. Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: Grist wheel is all I can think of Grist wheel or grist wheel. Interviewer: Do you ever see anything um smaller that you'd hold in your hand and sharpen maybe a knife? 299: Yeah these little uh whet rocks we call them. Yeah Interviewer: Okay um and uh what we use for transportation now you'd call a? 299: A car Interviewer: Okay any other names? 299: Automobile or uh