Interviewer: {X} Okay um say if we were talking about um the thing that that you drive around. 299: When we quit yesterday. Well I just had said a car or an automobile or I guess a vehicle is all I can think of right now. Interviewer: Okay and um say if something was squeaking and you wanted to lubricate it um what might you put on it? 299: Well oil oil I'd say Interviewer: Okay or that that hard solid stuff? 299: Oh Beeswax Interviewer: Okay what else? Say what what do you have to do to a car? 299: Grease it Interviewer: Okay so you say um yesterday he what his car? Yesterday he 299: Greased his car. Interviewer: Okay and you say grease got all over your hands you'd say your hands were all? 299: Greasy Interviewer: Okay and um what did you used to burn in lamps? 299: Oil Interviewer: Do you remember those lamps 299: We had 'em yes uh huh we did. Until we got electricity yeah I very well remember studying by them. Interviewer: Do you ever um {Overlaid} remember making the lamp? {overlaid} 299: No we actually never did uh but now you know we I've studied and read books you know when they did make them. Candles out of the {C: tape overlaid} wax or perfume or color or something they used. But we never did actually make any. Interviewer: Yeah Did you ever hear of um a grease lamp or rag lamp or something? {overlaid} 299: I've heard of them you just put a make a a rag wick Interviewer: Uh huh 299: put it in and I think they used lard a lot of times. And then after it gets cold you see. And I've also heard of a potato lamp. Interviewer: #1 Potato lamp? # 299: #2 Take # take an Irish potato and put a hole in it and put a rag wick in it Interviewer: Uh huh 299: and then uh burn it. Somewhere I don't know I've just heard of 'em. Interviewer: What did you call that other kind you'd heard of the kind with the lard? 299: I really I don't know mm as far as knowing I just heard of 'em but we didn't call them anything cause I'm not familiar with them. So I don't know much about them. Interviewer: Okay um the the inside the tire of the car you'd have the? 299: Rim Interviewer: Yeah or the inner? 299: {C: tape overlaid} {C: tape overlaid} hub Interviewer: Yeah the inside well actually the entire 299: The inner tube Interviewer: Huh? 299: The inner tube? Interviewer: Okay and um say someone has just built a boat and they were gonna put it in the water {overlaid} for the first time you'd say that they were going to? 299: I'd say try it out. Interviewer: Okay um or another word meaning that well you say they were going to what the boat? 299: Test it. Interviewer: Okay um what sort of boat might you use to go fishing in? {Overlaid} 299: Oh a canoe probably. Interviewer: What's that like? 299: Well it's just a oh I've heard 'em talking about 'em and they {C: tape overlaid} may call them something else but they're are just a little shallow {NS} just a little shallow boat. I don't Interviewer: Is that I what I pictured as a canoe is was beginning to occur to me that what I was picturing as a canoe is not what {overlaid} you're referring to. I was thinking that sorta Indian type canoe. 299: Uh huh that's what I'm thinking of but now they have a little fishing boat and I've heard them call them something else and I can't remember what it is but it's it's just a little shallow boat. It resembles a canoe and they it's got a name but what I don't because I'm not that familiar with boats. And uh Interviewer: Is it but the people call that um other types of things that were canoe {overlaid} or anything besides just that sort of Indian type canoe? 299: I don't really think so as far as I know they don't. Interviewer: Yeah okay um say if a if a child was just learning to dress himself the mother might bring them the clothes and tell them here? {overlaid} 299: Put on your clothes. Interviewer: Okay or tell them here your clothes here? 299: Here are your clothes. Interviewer: Okay and um if a women wanted to buy a dress a certain color she'd take along a little square cloth to use as a? 299: Sample Interviewer: Okay and if she sees a dress she likes very much and its very becoming on her she's say that that's very? 299: Pretty dress Interviewer: #1 Okay # 299: #2 is what I'd # Interviewer: and um a child might say well Suzie's dress is pretty but mine is even? 299: Prettiest Interviewer: Okay and um what might you wear over your dress in the kitchen? 299: Apron Interviewer: Okay and to sign your name in ink you'd use a? 299: Pen Interviewer: Okay and to hold a baby's diaper in place? 299: A pin {NW} Interviewer: Okay and the soup that you buy usually comes in a? 299: Can Interviewer: Okay made out of what? What kind of metal? 299: I just say a tin can. Interviewer: Okay and a dime is worth? {C: tape overlaid} A dime 299: Is worth? {C: tape overlaid} a dime {NW} I don't know. Interviewer: Oh you know I mean like a? 299: Ten cents Interviewer: Okay 299: Oh Interviewer: Um and say if a man were going to go to church on Sunday um what would he probably wear? 299: His suit Interviewer: Okay and what what would the suit consist of? 299: Well um just pants and jacket. Interviewer: What which part is the jacket? You mean the 299: The coat Interviewer: Did you ever what did um 299: Well some suits have vests we call them. Interviewer: Okay 299: I've but the older suits and maybe they're making some of them now but we call them vests. Interviewer: Did you ever use that word jacket to mean the same as vest or? 299: No I don't I never did I usually I just use- say coat or jacket. Interviewer: Okay um and if a if a man had an important interview you know and his clothes weren't in very good shape he'd might go out and buy a? 299: A new suit. Interviewer: Okay and um okay you said that that the coat consists of the suit consists of the coat and possibly the vest and the? 299: {Overlaid} Pants Interviewer: Uh huh is there any other um name you use besides pants? 299: Or trousers but I never say it {NW} Interviewer: Okay anything else you've heard? 299: Slacks that's about it. Interviewer: Okay do you ever hear britches? 299: Yeah britches I I say britches yeah {NW} that's right. Interviewer: Does the mean the same thing as I mean would you talk about britches in a suit or? 299: Well uh I usually refer to britches as just men's pants in general really. It could be just work work pants or any type of pants. Interviewer: Okay and um what what might a man wear to say if he were working around the barn? 299: Overalls Interviewer: Okay 299: My daddy still wears those. {NW} Interviewer: Okay say if if you went outside in the winter without your coat and you wanted it you might say tell someone um would you go inside and what me my coat? 299: Bring me my coat. Interviewer: Okay and say you say so the person went inside and? 299: Brought my coat. Interviewer: Okay and he'd say to you here I have what your? 299: Brought your coat. Interviewer: Okay um you say that coat won't fit this year but last year it what perfectly? 299: It fit. Interviewer: Okay and if you stuff a lot of things in your pocket it makes them? 299: Bulge Interviewer: Okay and um you say that that shirt used to fit me fine until I washed it and it? 299: Shrunk Interviewer: Okay and you say it seems like every shirt I've washed recently has? 299: Shrunk Interviewer: Okay and I hope this new shirt won't? 299: Shrink Interviewer: Okay um if a woman liked to put on good clothes and spend a lot of time in front of the mirror and so forth you'd say she likes to? 299: Primp {NW} Interviewer: Okay any other expressions like that? {C: tape overlaid} 299: I c- can't think of any right. Interviewer: Would you say that about a man? 299: I do Interviewer: A man who primps? 299: That's right Interviewer: Okay um and something that you might carry money in would be a? 299: Oh well {C: tape overlaid} some people say purse but I usually say pocket book. Interviewer: Do you mean is this something that women have or or is this? 299: Oh I refer to the pocket book as just the the large pocket book now uh course a billfold really it be what you'd carry the actual money in maybe or a change purse. Interviewer: Okay and uh something that a woman might wear around her wrist? 299: Watch Interviewer: Okay oh a? 299: Bracelet Interviewer: Okay and suppose you got a lot of little things strung together and you wore it around your neck you'd call that a? 299: Necklace Interviewer: Okay but these things strung together? 299: Beads Interviewer: Okay you call that a what of beads? 299: String of beads Interviewer: Okay and um what did men used to use to hold up their pants? 299: Suspenders Interviewer: Okay any other name for that? {Overlaid} 299: I can't think of one. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of gal-? 299: Galluses yes mm-hmm galluses. Interviewer: Is that a more old fashioned name or who who used to say that? {overlaid} 299: Well I've heard mother talk about galluses {NW} pants having galluses on them and she even made galluses for our skirts sometimes when we couldn't keep them up. {NW} So uh yeah I've heard of them called galluses quite a bit. {C: overlaid} Interviewer: Um what would you hold over you when it rained? 299: Well a umbrella but we used to call it a parasol. Interviewer: Is that the same thing exactly? 299: It it might not be but I think they are the same thing I don't really know if it is or not. Interviewer: Is it that word the reason I ask you it kind of surprises me cause I I never heard the word parasol used you know I'd read it maybe and I always pictured it as something lady like you know? 299: Uh huh these little fancy ones. {C: overlaid} Interviewer: Is that what you pictured or? Oh you say would your father carry a parasol? or 299: I just never even thought about it cause I think of both but I always say umbrella usually now but usually mother see my mother said parasol quite a bit. Interviewer: Just for 299: For uh just uh any umbrella she just called it parasol. And uh {C: overlaid} Interviewer: The last thing that you put on bed? 299: {C: tape overlaid} Well I say a bedspread #1 but # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 299: my husband says a counterpane. {NW} Really I've never heard counterpane too much I have read it you know in books and things. {X} But my husband usually says counterpane. Interviewer: What do your parents and grandparents say? 299: They say bedspread. Cause I never had really heard much about counterpane. Interviewer: Um and the thing that that you put your head on? 299: A pillow but or we've got bolsters which is the long pillows that go all across the bed. Mother has 'em I have one and my grandmother has has 'em and uh but either they're pillows or um {X} bolsters I'd say. Interviewer: And what might you put on a a bed for warmth? Something old fashioned. 299: Oh a quilt a quilt Interviewer: Okay what what was that like? 299: Well it's just a a patch {D: some} type of patch work cover I mean it's a you take scraps of uh material sew them together and and then pair them with cotton and line 'em and then {C: overlaid} quilt them. And then it turns out to be a sort of a patch work quilt. Interviewer: Did you ever make any of those? 299: No I haven't but mother has made lots of them and my grandmother made them all the time. And I've got quite a few of them that they gave me. And my younger sister she actually has quilted but I haven't. Interviewer: People start trying to collect them and stuff. 299: Uh huh they are. {NS} You know you can order them now and they are kinda of expensive you know in catalogs. But uh my mother and grandmother and different one's in the family they made them made all that we had. Interviewer: Do you ever see them made any other way like maybe tied or something? 299: Well there is a type of quilt that uh you actually use the square blocks I believe and you pat them and you line them but then you um you actually uh tie a little um wads of thread and then then I think you clip it and it leaves a little fuzzy looking balls all over. And uh Interviewer: Is that called anything special? 299: I don't really know. Cause I'm not familiar with that you know the different types of quilts much. Interviewer: Okay um and say if you had a lot of company over and didn't have enough beds in the house for the children you might make a? 299: Pads Interviewer: Okay and um talk about kinds of land now you'd say we expect a big yield from that field this year because the soil is very? 299: Rich Interviewer: Okay any other word you might use to mean rich? 299: Fertile Interviewer: Okay um what different types of soil do you have? Different types of land? 299: Um I don't even know exactly what uh Interviewer: Well do you have names for for different types of soil? 299: Well you have just like say sandy soil or you have um maybe rocky soil or but that that's all I don't know that much about soil. Interviewer: Do you ever heard um well real rich black soil being called anything? {Overlaid} 299: No I don't I can't think of anything right now. Interviewer: Do you ever heard of loon or lune or something like that? 299: I've heard the word but it's see it's not a word I've heard used very much. Interviewer: What um what types of of land are there on say your property like maybe um land along a a stream that's real rich? 299: You mean uh what types? {C: tape overlaid} Interviewer: Well say what what would you call that flat low land along a stream that? 299: Bottom bottom land Interviewer: Okay and um what about a a land that's um might not be good for much of anything besides growing um clover or alfalfa or something like that? 299: It'd just be like pasture land. Interviewer: Okay and what about land thats got water standing in it most of the time? 299: Swamps I think. Interviewer: Okay and if someone were was getting water off the swamps you'd say that they were? 299: Draining the swamps Interviewer: Okay and what would you call the the little things that they cut? 299: Oh trenches Interviewer: Okay and um what about land that say is just wet enough to get your tractor stuck in it? {overlaid} 299: Well it's just low land you mean. Interviewer: I mean would {overlaid} have you ever heard of um crawfish land? Have you ever heard 299: I've heard of crawfish but actually not crawfish {D: land} I've never heard it referred to like that. Interviewer: I just heard it uh a couple weeks ago. 299: I haven't heard. Now see I- I've heard of crawfish but I've never heard land called crawfish land. Interviewer: It's supposed to be the someone said it was {overlaid} is wet land {overlaid} the swamp. 299: Uh huh well I'm not familiar with that. Maybe there that was like their land like uh we always had some land we called the rocky bottom. We had it on our farm we had a field that over the hill from the house and it was we referred to it as the rocky bottom. And daddy we had corn in it we raised corn and it was next to a stream but it was rocks continually you could never get the rocks out of it. Interviewer: Huh 299: And uh when you hoed {C: tape overlaid} you just continued to hit them rocks. And that was the name of it the rocky bottom. So uh maybe that's why they're crawfish land. Interviewer: Well it seemed there were crawfish in the land. Um what would you call a well what are um some of the names of of flowing the flowing water around here? 299: Well we called them creeks see you some people would say streams or branches but we always called everything a creek that wasn't a lake {NW} or a river. We we always say creeks. Interviewer: Is there something anything smaller than a creek? Would you have another name or? 299: Um I think a stream is being smaller than a creek. Interviewer: #1 What about # 299: #2 Or a branch # or just a branch. You've heard of d- uh there's dry branches and uh that just run when uh when it rains or they they don't have water all the time. Interviewer: Is there anything {Overlaid} between the size of a creek and a river? 299: Uh well to me in my mind I think of a creek as just a small small and a river is larger. Interviewer: Mm-hmm you don't think of anything in between? 299: Oh uh in between a creek and a river? I don't. {Overlaid} Interviewer: Okay what are all the names of some of the creeks around here? 299: Round here? Interviewer: Or branches or whatever. 299: Well I think this creek up here is called Caney creek. {NW} Interviewer: Caney? 299: Caney C-A-N-E-Y and course I was born on Grice's creek {NW} and uh then there's a Wells's creek Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: W-E-L-L-S and there's um Hurricane creek down here. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And uh {NW} Yellow creek out toward my mother's. Interviewer: I I was looking on the map for Grice's Creek and I didn't see it. 299: Well you know I spelled it G-U-I-C-E-S Interviewer: Uh huh 299: and you know you might find it as G-R-I-C-E-S. It G-R-I-C-E-S sounds more like Grice's but the older folk spelled it G-U-I-C-E-S but {C: tape overlaid} pronounced it Grice's. Interviewer: Uh huh 299: So uh I don't know if it would be like that. Interviewer: Was that I think I say Yellow Creek. 299: Well it would be somewhere near yellow creek if it's listed it's a small Grice's creek is a small creek but it does run from one end of that community to the other really. And it runs either into uh it should run either into the Cumberland river down in Cumberland City cause it goes all the way to the to the Cumberland river. {Overlaid} It- it could be that there's another name somewhere between Grice's Creek and Cumberland River it may be it may run into Wells's Creek before it runs into the river. Did you see Wells's Creek or did you not look? Interviewer: I'm not sure I I think I remember the name Yellow Creek. 299: Yellow Creek's a lot larger. It's it's a pretty large creek it has in fact you cross Yellow Creek uh coming into Erin either from Clarksville or Dickson either one. So it's it's a big creek. Interviewer: I think I need a bigger map 299: Oh yeah Interviewer: Um what about something that say in a um in a field something real deep and narrow maybe um 299: A gully {overlaid} Interviewer: Okay what's what is that like? How how does it form? 299: Well usually by uh the gullies I'm familiar with is formed by just uh water. It may be just a big rain and it would just wash 'em out or it might be um that every time it rains water runs through them to uh they just stay there. Everytime it rains they'll be full of water. Interviewer: What if you have a little stream at the bottom of it and it's real you know it would be hard to climb down to get to the stream I mean it is real deep. 299: Well like a water fall type something? Interviewer: Well this you know in a field all the sudden it it's just sort of a drop and there's a little stream running at the at the bottom of it. Would you call that a gully or? 299: I really don't know Interviewer: Okay what about um something cut by um rain along the edge of a road? 299: Now we call those gullies. Interviewer: Okay and um okay something you mentioned uh a hill is there um well are there other names for for things similar to to a hill? I mean a little rise in land maybe maybe not as big as a hill or maybe shaped a little differently. 299: Say a hump {Overlaid} a hump have you ever heard that? Interviewer: What what's that? 299: Well uh just a a mound Interviewer: Uh huh 299: Either a mound or uh hump H-U-M-P. {NW} Interviewer: Okay 299: Ah that's all I can think of anything smaller than you know a hill. Interviewer: Okay say if you want to open a door you'd take hold of the door? 299: Knob Interviewer: Do you use that word about land? 299: Uh like {NW} door knob? Interviewer: Uh yeah just knob 299: Knob Oh yes you could um. Interviewer: What I mean do do you use that? 299: Uh a knob could mean a hill yes it could. Interviewer: Is okay um and something much much bigger than a hill would be a? 299: Mountain Interviewer: Okay and uh the side of the rocky side of the mountain that that drops off real sharp? 299: Slope Interviewer: Okay but what did um okay suppose you have sort of a part over hanging you know and then it just there's a big drop. {Overlaid} How'd you say somebody jumped off? 299: The ravine Interviewer: What's a ravine? 299: I think of ravine as being two two mountains or two hillsides coming down into a point and down at the bottom is a ravine. Interviewer: Is is that {overlaid} 299: The we're just talking about 'til you could jump from the ledge Interviewer: Uh huh 299: on the side of the mountain. Interviewer: What about the word cliff? 299: Cliff yeah I've heard of that see I just just didn't think of it. Interviewer: Wait what do you picture that as? 299: A cliff? Interviewer: Uh huh 299: Well I sort of think of it as a as a bluff. You know we do have bluffs around here and maybe there be uh rocks protruding out you see sort of makes a cliff that has a long drop off. Interviewer: Yeah okay um and um say up up in the mountains where the road goes across in a low place not not really in a you're still up in the mountains you're not down in a valley but just sort of a a place between the mountains a low place between the mountains you'd call that a? {NW} 299: I can't think of anything. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of Cumberland? 299: Gap yeah mm-hmm Interviewer: Use that word gap or? 299: Yes uh in fact uh course with us it's cattle gaps or uh water gaps. Interviewer: What's that mean? 299: Well a cattle gap is just a uh say you had a uh cattle in the field {C: tape overlaid} and uh or you might some people even have a cattle in the field that's near enough to their house that uh they have to use the same they have to keep the driveway open to go in to and from their house get the cattle or they're in a field that's not actually fenced away from the house lot and they uh cattle gaps are just uh oh they're boards see they're over a sort of a gully or a ditch {C: tape overlaid} and they're they're um boards or two by fours or something and they're just space to enough distance that a cow can't actually walk across them because their hooves see get hung down between these but yet a car can come and go and you don't close them. So that's a cattle gap and a water gap is a so you have um uh a fenced in pasture say with cows or something {C: tape overlaid} and yet a creek runs through {C: tape overlaid} through there and you m- your fencing it in when you come to the creek you'll just fence on across that creek but yet you can it'll be wire stretched across and but the creek actually runs through that wire. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 299: And uh that's what you call a water gap. And actually it'll accumulate trash and uh driftwood and everything else because the water sees it running through that wire all the time. {C: tape overlaid} That's sorta what you call a water gap. Interviewer: I've never heard that before I've seen what you're talking about. 299: Say if you have a {C: tape overlaid} pasture that's fenced in and then you have a creek running through that pasture well you'll just keep fencing right on across that creek and then uh lots of times you have to put weights some kind of weights on the bottom of that fence because see that creek goes down lower than the rest of the land on each side so there'll be a space under there that there's a possibility the cows might can get in the creek and even wade out. So they'll put some type of weights I don't know just exactly but we always refer to them water gaps and cattle gaps. Interviewer: That's interesting I never I've seen the cattle gaps 299: Mm-hmm Interviewer: I've seen before but 299: mm-hmm anytime you go to anybody's house you drive through those little Interviewer: Yeah 299: places. Interviewer: There was it was sort of a this one was sort of like a pipe 299: Yeah Interviewer: that they had there and I I figured that's what it was for 299: Uh-huh Interviewer: well it seems to me though that the cow could break its leg. 299: Well they c- they could see that they'd get their legs hung down in there but for some reason as as a rule they won't even try because soon as they see uh I guess they got to keep their feet on level ground and they just don't usually try to even cross. Interviewer: That's the cattle gap? 299: Uh-huh Interviewer: Um say if if you were going to um well say if you took a if you were going to chop down a tree or something to you'd make a little V shaped cut you know in the direction you were going to you want it to fall you'd call that cut a? 299: I know what you're talking about but um all I all I'm thinking of is a groove. Interviewer: Uh huh What um what about say if if you just took a um took a piece of wood and just cut in like this and then like that you'd cut out a little? 299: Wedge Interviewer: Uh huh {overlaid} I'm thinking of of the word um notch. #1 Did you ever use that? # 299: #2 Notch yeah # Interviewer: #1 # 299: #2 # I just couldn't think that's right. You notch logs and you notch. {C: tape overlaid} Interviewer: Do you ever use that to refer to this to mean the same thing as a gap in the mountains? 299: I never have thought of it as such. Interviewer: Uh huh okay um a place where boats stop and where freights unloaded? 299: Well like a boat dock Interviewer: Okay any different types? Like say say something on on this river just a a smaller thing um like just big enough for you to get your just a place where you could get the boat into the water and then? 299: A loading it'd be a loading dock. Interviewer: Okay um and types of of roads that you have around here? What do you call most of important roads you have? 299: Well we call the important roads highways and the others are just roads. Interviewer: Okay what um what are they made out of? 299: Well uh the roads are just uh graveled roads. They're dirt and then they gravel them. And then uh the highways are asphalt or yeah black top we call them. Interviewer: What about um that white part of paved roads? Like the sidewalk? 299: Well concrete but we some are concrete and course I don't guess we actually have any of those do we um except sidewalks maybe. Interviewer: I can't think of any that I've gone through. Uh what would you call a a little road that goes off the main road? Say a road like 299: A path Interviewer: Okay but what would you call the road that? 299: The driveway Interviewer: What's what's the driveway a just a 299: Up to a house uh-huh Interviewer: Okay what about the the road like the well it turns off 147? You know this this dirt road that 299: Mm-hmm Interviewer: goes on up that way what would you call that? 299: I just call it a road. Interviewer: Do you ever hear of a a country road or a bypass or a? 299: Well country road yeah but uh um bypass I don't I don't I don't use it much or hear it referred to. Interviewer: What do you mean by country road? 299: Well to me this is a country road. Interviewer: Just sort of a smaller road then? 299: Any road that's just that's usually graveled or that's usually got woods on each side or field and things I think. Interviewer: Yeah what about a road that that has trees on both sides? Would you call that anything special? 299: Well you could call it a woods road I guess {C: tape overlaid} or a wooded road. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a a lane? 299: #1 uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 what is that? # 299: Lane well I usually think of a country lane as being maybe even going through a pasture or you know somewhere on a farm say. Or maybe going up to somebody's house from a main road that's what it is. Interviewer: What about say the a road on your farm well something you could drive your truck over to um say from the house to the barn? 299: Well lots of times you might say wagon roads or it might be referred to as a lane. Interviewer: Okay um and something along the um side of the street for people to walk on? 299: Sidewalk Interviewer: Okay you know there's a a strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street? Have you ever heard that given a name? 299: A blo- no not a block. Interviewer: You know what I mean don't you? 299: Uh-huh Interviewer: There's the sidewalk and then there's grass and then the street. {NW} 299: But I can't think of what it could be called. Interviewer: Okay um say if you were walking along a road and and a dog jumped out and scared you um what would you pick up and throw? 299: A rock Interviewer: Okay and so what would you say you did? 299: I throwed a rock Interviewer: Okay would you use another expression besides that would you say chucked or pitched or? {overlaid} 299: You could say I pitched a rock but I never do say chucked I never would. Interviewer: What do you what does pitched mean? 299: Usually you think of pitched as pitching a ball in baseball. Y- you pitch a ball or but pitch is really the same thing as throw. Interviewer: Yeah okay um 299: And course a pitch fork is something you used to throw hay. Pitch hay Interviewer: I never thought of that just pitching hay. Um but you you think you probably you'd say throw throw the rock at a 299: I always say throw I throw the rock. Interviewer: Um say you went to somebody's house and knocked on the door and nobody answered you say well I guess he's not? 299: At home Interviewer: Okay and um tell me about putting milk in coffee. You'd say this um some people like coffee how? 299: Black Interviewer: Okay um how's so black okay black coffee then is coffee that's? 299: Has has no cream in it. Interviewer: Okay and um say if you like um say if you like milk in your tea you'd say drink your tea how? {C: tape overlaid} 299: If you like milk in your tea? Interviewer: Yeah 299: Seasoned? Interviewer: Okay you say um some people will eat corn flakes dried but most people like them? 299: With milk Interviewer: Okay and um if someone were walking in your direction you say he was coming straight? 299: Towards Interviewer: Okay and um say if you'd gone to town and and just happened to see someone you hadn't seen in a long time and just sort of a coincidence that you happened to see them you'd say well this morning I ran? 299: Into Interviewer: Okay and um if a a little girl's given the same name her mother has you'd say that they named the child? 299: After her Interviewer: Okay and um what kinds of of animals did you have on your property? 299: Oh well we had cows and mules and horses and hogs pigs and chickens and we had sheep at one time and goats. Interviewer: You had goats? 299: Uh-huh Interviewer: What did you have those from? 299: Well uh we u- uh my brother I had an older brother that just really liked things like that and we have no special reason except uh we kept them as we call it down in the holler we had this uh {C: tape overlaid} road that went down into the holler and it was fenced in like and they just run ran down in that uh that uh fenced in place and they just stripped the trees and the bushes really they all uh they'll strip land of uh sprouts or bushes that you want to get rid of {C: tape overlaid} but they'll also just strip the land of anything it'll just be completely worn out where they are. And we actually one time had one uh barbecue killed but uh as far as having them for any special reason we didn't we didn't milk them or anything like that. Interviewer: Is goat meat good? 299: Well uh they it is or we thought it was then if you knew {NS} uh just how to kill it and dress it and we had to get somebody else that knew they say you have to kill 'em before you actually get 'em stirred up because you know that awful smell that they have and if you stir them up chase them or anything before you kill 'em uh they'll have that meat will hold it strong uh taste. Interviewer: You mean they just I heard that goats stink but 299: Oh they smell terrible. Interviewer: They just stink when they get mad or? 299: Well it's worse I think see they must stink with some kind of smell more when they're they're uh stirred up or mad and because they say before you kill one uh not to stir 'em up because they must {X} makes the meat stronger or something and uh so we actually didn't have them for any reason at all except I do remember having one killed in a and barbecued or something. Interviewer: Yeah {overlaid} um in a heard of cattle what do you call the male? {overlaid} 299: Well that's what I was thinking of last night when you's talking different things. {C: tape overlaid} Well you'd really call it a bull. {C: tape overlaid} But when we were growing up my mother wouldn't let us say bull. {NW} And uh so my grandmother they always had the {C: tape overlaid} the male and she always called him old Ben. {NW} {Overlaid} And believe it or not our mother made us call it a bellering cow. {NW} Why I don't know but really when we were growing up we thought to say bull was cursing if you'd say Interviewer: Yeah 299: it's a bull. Interviewer: {NW} 299: {X} My grandmother also said the old male. So Interviewer: Wait she called it the the bell- 299: The bellering cow B-E-L-L-E-R-I-N-G Interviewer: The bellering cow 299: Uh-huh {NW} Interviewer: What about um the male horse was it? 299: Well this is something I'm not too uh too good on is uh horses and things uh if I understand maybe a horse is a horse or is a mare. But a mare is the female of the horse see. But uh to breed and you say mules they're neither they're without sex I guess you'd say. But to a in order to a my brother he actually uh raised two mules from birth and I think you have to breed them with a jack don't you? You take the mare and breed it with a jack. And it then you come out with a mule maybe. So that's something I'm not too good on. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a Stallion or a stud? 299: Yeah I've heard of them I know we didn't actually have anything like that. Interviewer: Um say if you had these mules you had two of them hitched together you'd call that a? 299: A team of mules. Interviewer: Okay And um say uh a little cow when it's first born? 299: Calf Interviewer: Okay what if it's a female? 299: It's a heifer. Interviewer: Okay and um if it's a male? 299: Would it be a yearling? Interviewer: Okay did you you never I guess if you couldn't say bull you wouldn't say bull calf or? 299: We didn't usually have 'em uh uh. We just said a little male I guess. {NW} Interviewer: Um and the kind of animal that that barks and that? 299: A dog Interviewer: Okay if you wanted your dog to attack another dog you'd tell him to? 299: Sic 'em Interviewer: {NW} okay and um if he's a mixed breed you'd just call him a? {NW} What just what different types of dogs do people have I mean I'm not talking about breeds you know just. 299: You talking about uh like a coon? Interviewer: Yeah 299: Coon hounds and uh course hounds and collies and shepherds and of course there's there are bulldogs and bird dogs of course bird hounds too. And uh course there's feist they call some feist little feist. Interviewer: Is that that little dog? 299: I think so. and um there's a name for the mixed breed but uh I I just off hand can't think of what it was. Interviewer: Do you ever um you know these big dogs some you see on some people's farms sometimes and just huge things? 299: German police Interviewer: Okay what about just a a general name for short haired big dog? Have you ever heard that called anything? 299: I can't think of anything. Interviewer: I was wondering about the word cur? 299: Yeah Interviewer: Do you ever? 299: Yeah cur dog but I never had to give it thought what kind it was. Interviewer: What what do you picture? 299: A cur dog? Interviewer: Yeah {C: tape overlaid} 299: I still think of the collie or the shepherd I just in my mind. Interviewer: Is that is the shepherd long haired or? 299: No the collie's the long haired I believe shepherd's a little shorter I I think. To me I think a shepherd would come near being it's in some ways it's a little bit like the German police except it has longer hair. The collie has the real long hair I think and the difference in the collie and the shepherd it'd be the collie's ears stand up and maybe the shepherd's droop down I believe maybe. Interviewer: Do you ever um see a dog that maybe a shepherd dog that has real light blue eyes would you sort- you know most dogs have dark eyes you know brown or whatever but say a dog that has just real light colored eyes? 299: No I'm not familiar with it. Interviewer: I'd I'd seen one of those and someone said it was a glass eye shepherd. 299: Well that's something new to me I've never heard of it. Interviewer: It's really strange. 299: Uh-huh Interviewer: It was real light blue {overlaid} 299: Aw Interviewer: I thought maybe the dog was blind or something. 299: Uh-huh Oh that's a new one on me. Interviewer: I just wondered if you had ever heard that. 299: Uh-uh I haven't. Interviewer: Um say if you had a real mean dog you might tell someone um you better be careful that dog will? 299: Bite you Interviewer: Okay and you say um yesterday he? 299: Bit somebody Interviewer: Okay and you say the person had to go to the doctor after he got? 299: Got bit Interviewer: Okay and um say if you had a a cow that was expecting a calf you'd say that the cow was going to? 299: I'd just say have a calf now they say a lot of them say calve Interviewer: Uh-huh 299: or drop a calf but oh I just say have a calf. Interviewer: Okay and um you say everyone around here likes to what horses? 299: Ride horses Interviewer: Okay Say uh last year he what his horse everyday? 299: Rode Interviewer: Okay say but I've never? 299: Ridden Interviewer: Okay and if you couldn't stay on you'd say I fell? 299: Off Interviewer: Okay and um say if a little child went to sleep in bed and woke up and found herself on the floor in the morning you'd say well I guess I must've? 299: Fell off the bed I'd say but it should say falling. Interviewer: Okay um and um the things that you put on a horses feet? 299: Horseshoes Interviewer: Okay um have you ever heard of a game similar played with something similar to that? 299: Oh yes we played horseshoe growing up. Interviewer: Yeah do you ever play anything like that only with instead of using the horseshoes using rings? 299: Uh-huh we'd at one time we got something like that for Christmas you had the two little stops with the little suction things on them that you could even play in the house maybe. And uh you toss these rings just little round rings I don't even know what it was called but it was a {D: lot of} horseshoe we used to play horseshoe all the time. Interviewer: Um when you put the the horseshoes on the horse you you nail them to his? 299: Hoof Interviewer: Okay and um you say so you'd call those those parts of the horse's feet you call them his? 299: hoof Interviewer: Yeah you say a horse has four? 299: Hooves Interviewer: Okay um what do you call the female sheep? 299: Um ewe Interviewer: Okay 299: E-W-E isn't it? Interviewer: Okay um and what about the male? 299: Is it a ram? Interviewer: Okay is that word nice to say? {Overlaid} 299: Yeah I guess so we {NW} we said most anything except bull. {NW} Yeah I guess it is. {NW} Interviewer: What did you raise sheep for? 299: We had to uh had them sheared for their wool and sold the wool. And uh when I was growing up and uh daddy had so much trouble with them that he finally got rid of them. We had a mad dog to get into them Interviewer: Oh really? 299: and bit some and they went mad. And uh Interviewer: Huh 299: Then we had 'em they real bad about getting into uh {C: tape overlaid} I don't know if it's the clover fields or uh alfalfa. It's one kind of it's some kind of hay or something you got and they're bad about getting into it. But when they over eat it they bloat and I've seen just several of them just laying out there cause they have eaten too much and they'll just be bloated and dead. So uh there are so many things that go wrong with sheep 'til daddy finally got rid of them. But we usually used to have sheep sheared and sold the wool. Interviewer: You have to watch some of those animals don't you for over eating? 299: Uh-huh you do. Interviewer: They can't throw up or something 299: Uh uh or something in in fact they claim there is there's a possibility that you can even stick 'em with a knife and let that air escape and they'll even live sometimes. Interviewer: Huh 299: But they'll actually bloat and it could be it's if they get to water right afterwards yeah there are other certain things that a cow if a cow eats certain things