interviewer: Okay um we was talking about say if Bob was is five inches taller this year you'd say Bob what a lot in one year? 299: Growed a lot interviewer: Okay and you'd you'd tell him you certainly have? 299: Growed I'd say. interviewer: Okay and you say he came up so fast you could almost see him? {C: tape noise} 299: Grow interviewer: Okay and um {NW} what would you call a a child that's born to a woman that's not married? 299: Illegitimate interviewer: Okay any other names? 299: Well I think I've heard people say bastard. {C: laughing} interviewer: Okay 299: But I I don't say that. {C: tape noise} {NW} interviewer: Anything else? {overlaid} 299: I can't think of anything right now. interviewer: You ever heard woods cult or bush child or anything? 299: I don't believe so. interviewer: Okay um and your brother's son would be your? 299: Nephew interviewer: Okay and a child that's lost both parents? {C: tape noise} 299: Is a orphanen. interviewer: Huh? 299: Orphan interviewer: Okay and what if he's he grew up in an institution? 299: An orphan's home interviewer: Okay would you call him orphan house child or any different word like that? 299: No I wouldn't I mean I don't think of anything else myself. interviewer: Okay and um a person appointed to look after the orphan would be called his? 299: Is it foster parent's #1 or gaurdian. # interviewer: #2 Okay # okay and um say if you have a lot of cousins and aunts and uncles and everything living in this town you'd say this town is full of my? 299: Kinfolk interviewer: Okay and um you say well she has the same family name that I do and she looks a little bit like me but actually we're no? 299: Kin interviewer: Okay and sombody who comes into town and nobody's ever seen 'em before? 299: Stranger interviewer: Okay any other name? 299: Newcomer {NW} interviewer: Okay what if the person comes from a different country? 299: Foreigner interviewer: Okay would you use that word foreigner does that does foreigner have to come from another country? 299: Not necessarily we sometimes I say foreigner when they just not it from this {C: tape noise} section. interviewer: Okay and um these are some {NW} common um names um the name of the mother of Jesus? 299: Oh Mary interviewer: Okay and George Washington's wife? 299: Mary interviewer: Okay 299: Martha interviewer: Okay or John Mitchell's wife? Um and a nickname for Helen? Starting with a N. Or did you ever hear of the song {NW} wait 'til the sun shine? 299: Nellie interviewer: Okay 299: I didn't realize that was a nickname. {C: tape noise} interviewer: And um {overlaid} a nickname for a boy named William? 299: Bill interviewer: Okay or any anything else? 299: Or Billy interviewer: Okay and um the first book of the New Testament? 299: Matthew interviewer: Okay and a woman who conducts school is called a? 299: Teacher interviewer: Okay any old fashioned names? You ever hear school marm? 299: Well I've heard of that on you know TV programs or something just you know old programs. {overlaid} interviewer: Okay and um this is a a family name it's it's the name of a barrel maker. 299: You mean uh you don't mean undertaker or interviewer: No you ever heard of the um are you familiar with the family with the last name copper or cuper? {C: tape noise} 299: Yeah we call 'em coopers interviewer: Okay and a married woman by that name would be? 299: Ms. Cooper interviewer: Okay and um say a a preacher that's not very well trained in doesn't have a regular pole but just sorta 299: Jackleg interviewer: {NW} Okay what does that word mean to you? {C: tape noise} How do you use it? 299: Well usually they're kinda {C: tape noise} uneducated uh {X} {Overlaid} I don't know just just not a regular preacher maybe. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Yeah how else would you use the word I mean would you talk about jackleg carpenter or? 299: #1 Yeah you would # interviewer: #2 {X} # 299: uh huh jackleg carpenter more than uh more than anything else. {C: tape noise} Jackleg preacher and jackleg carpenter is {C: tape noise} is m- main things I think of. interviewer: Okay you ever hear shade tree? {C: tape noise} 299: Yeah just like the shade trees in the yard? interviewer: Yeah or like shade tree preacher or shade tree mechanic? {overlaid} 299: I think I've heard of shade tree mechanics but I don't believe I've ever hearad of shade tree preacher. interviewer: What did shade tree mechanic {C: tape noise} mean? {C: tape noise} Does it is 299: Well I'd say they kinda lazy. interviewer: Okay and um what relation would my mother's sister be to me? {C: tape noise} 299: Oh your aunt. interviewer: Okay and um the name of the wife of Abraham? {C: tape noise} 299: Sarah interviewer: Okay and um say uh a boy named Bill his full name would be? 299: William interviewer: Okay and if your father had a brother by that name by the full name you call him? 299: Uncle William interviewer: Okay and um Ken President Kennedy's first name was? 299: Jack interviewer: Okay um and the the um last of the four gospels in the Bible? 299: John interviewer: Okay and if your father had a brother by that name he'd be your? 299: Uncle John interviewer: Okay and um the highest rank in the army? 299: Is it sergent or interviewer: Okay 299: Corporal interviewer: Okay what about higher up than that though? Say Robert E Lee was a? 299: Major General interviewer: Okay and um say the the man who would use Kentucky Fried Chicken? {C: tape noise} 299: Colonel Sanders interviewer: And um what do you what do you call a man in charge of a ship? 299: Captain interviewer: Okay do you ever hear the that word used in any other situation? Like um colored people talking to white people that they worked for or something like that? 299: No I never really have. interviewer: Have there been many color people in this area? 299: Well {C: tape noise} I don't think there's any hardly at all down in this section but up uh near Grice's Creek more over on {C: tape noise} {overlaid} uh {C: tape noise} like uh {C: tape noise} not too far from Grice's Creek there's a {C: tape noise} a Keyser Ridge {C: tape noise} and then there's Ellis Mills that's has lots of colored people. And uh {C: tape noise} so all my life see I've been {C: tape noise} uh well pretty close to 'em out in that section but there's none in this section right here. {C: tape noise} interviewer: You think they're be any up there that I could talk to? That were born here and grew up here or? 299: Uh I would think so out on that uh out on that Keyser Ridge I I just believe there might be. {overlaid} And uh {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} you might check with someone in Erin but you know they might could tell you somebody for sure that {C: tape noise} um you might get in touch with this Francis {Beep} from out on Keyser Ridge. {overlaid} And I imagine she's got a phone in the uh and she's probably got a name in the phone directory. {overlaid} interviewer: Francis {Beep} how do you spell that? {beep} okay 299: And if she if she doesn't have the time for this interview and all she might know somebody that's older that would have time. interviewer: Huh okay I'll try that. Um what different ways of referring to colored people have you heard? 299: Well course round here people say a lot of 'em say niggers. And they say course nig a nig negro a lot of 'em say and I guess I think the proper way is negro isn't? interviewer: Mhmm 299: But then uh and then black. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Is that the like the word black does that sound to you sorta of a more recent? 299: It is yeah it just started recently I don't think uh back uh say when I was growing up or anything I you never heard 'em referred to as black. {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} interviewer: What you hear 'em then {x} 299: Darkies you know if people they used to say darkies a lot. Now in in a {C: tape noise} older people say like my grandaddy and people {C: tape noise} uh they they and then uh well uh {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} oh I don't know what you'd call him he was uh {C: tape noise} kin my grandaddy this man and he would always talk about the darkies over on uh Keyser Ridge. And uh a lot of them worked at his saw mill and uh. So really they called 'em darkies a lot. interviewer: Mhmm 299: But they never I never heard 'em referred to as black. interviewer: Any sort of joking words or {overlaid} that white people would use? 299: Well don'ts seems like I've heard they say what is it jigs or coons I think. interviewer: I've heard that {overlaid} okay you say um but you or me wouldn't be called black we'd be? 299: What now? interviewer: What how would you refer to your own race? 299: White interviewer: Okay any other words for that? 299: Caucasian I believe or interviewer: Okay what about uh someone who's one parent's black and the other parent's white? Would you have a name for that? 299: Mulatto I've heard it or read you know. Or don't they call 'em mulattos or mulattas. {overlaid} {overlaid} You don't call them half breeds {C: tape noise} do ya that's Indians. {NW} I don't know other than that. interviewer: I think I've heard mulatto. {C: tape noise} 299: Uh huh interviewer: Um what about would you know um this would be well you know a long long time ago but um any words that negros would use for white people they worked for? 299: Master I think would have been one of the main things interviewer: Okay anything else? 299: Just maybe mister. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay um and um a person who presides over a county court would be called a? 299: Judge interviewer: Okay and someone who goes to school? 299: Student or pupil interviewer: With what's the difference? Well okay say if you were talking about college what would you say? 299: Student I I think of student as being either high school or college and I think of pupil as being elementary you know. {overlaid} interviewer: Okay {C: tape noise} and um say a man on the stage would be an actor a woman would be a? 299: Actress interviewer: Okay and um {NW} say if have some white people who aren't very well off who haven't have a chance at education and so forth but they don't much seem to care you know they just sort of lazy. 299: Well some people call 'em white trash. interviewer: Okay 299: Or poor whites. interviewer: Okay um and what about someone who lives out in the country and doesn't get into town much when he does go into town everybody notices him and? 299: Well like a country hunk or a hillbilly or interviewer: Okay 299: I'm guessing. interviewer: And uh what about {C: tape noise} {overlaid} say are you familiar with any other terms like that? Referring to you know different types of people. 299: Well if uh say a city dude {NW} uh that's what we used to say he's a city dude. But I can't think of anything else. {C: tape noise} interviewer: You ever heard hoosier? 299: No interviewer: Hoosier {overlaid} hoosier 299: No not really I don't think I have. interviewer: Okay um and say if if you were at a party and you looked at your watch and saw it was around eleven thirty or so you say um well we be we'd better be getting home it's what midnight it's? 299: You mean it's nearly midnight or interviewer: Okay would you say something like you know nyon to midnight or pretty near midnight? 299: {overlaid} I say pretty near uh midnight a lot of times but I never say uh near on. interviewer: Okay and um say if you were say if it was icy outside and you were walking and you say well it is really slippery out there I didn't actually fall fall down but a couple of times I like? 299: Like a sled down interviewer: Okay and um say someone was waiting for you to get ready and calls out and asks you if you will be ready soon you might say well I'll be with you in? 299: I'll be ready in a minute. interviewer: Okay or in ju- just? 299: Just a little while interviewer: Okay and um say if you you're going to Nashville or some place and you know you are on the headed in the right direction but you're not sure of the distance you might ask someone how? 299: How far is it? interviewer: Okay and um say if you wanted to know how many times say I went into town you might ask me how? What do you go into town? How? 299: How often do you go to town. interviewer: Okay and um say if um {overlaid} if I offered you a choice of two things and asked you which one you wanted and it didn't make any difference to you might say uh it doesn't matter just give me? 299: Whichever you interviewer: Okay or just give me what one just give me? 299: Either one interviewer: Okay and um this part of my head is called my? 299: Forehead interviewer: Huh? 299: Forehead interviewer: Okay and um this is my? 299: Hair interviewer: Okay and say if a if a man hadn't shaved in awhile he'd be growing a? 299: Beard or whiskers {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay and this is my? 299: Ear interviewer: Which one? 299: Your right ear interviewer: Okay and this is? The other one? 299: Left ear interviewer: Okay and this is my? 299: Lips interviewer: Or the whole thing is the? 299: Mouth interviewer: Okay and this? 299: Your neck interviewer: Okay and 299: Uh esophagus interviewer: Okay or just a more common? 299: Throat interviewer: Okay {C: tape noise} what about this thing here? 299: Adam's apple {NW} interviewer: Okay have you ever heard any other word for that? 299: Goozle or {C: tape noise} interviewer: What does that mean goozle? 299: That's really sorta your throat or that {overlaid} interviewer: Which what does it mean? I mean does it mean the throat or the adam's apple or just what? 299: I think of it as just the whole throat you know you say uh that like to of gone down my goozle. {NW} I don't know of anything else. interviewer: Okay and um {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} you say you'd you go to the dentist to have the dentist look at your? 299: Teeth interviewer: Okay and you might say he needs to fill that? 299: Tooth interviewer: Okay and the flesh around your teeth is called the? 299: Gums interviewer: Okay and this part? 299: Palm of your hand interviewer: Okay and um these are my two? 299: Hands interviewer: Okay and this is one? 299: Fist interviewer: Or two? 299: Fist interviewer: Okay and any place where the bones come together is called a? 299: Joint interviewer: Okay and on a man this part is the? 299: Chest interviewer: Okay and these are my? 299: Shoulders interviewer: Okay and um this is the? Well the whole thing? 299: Your leg interviewer: Okay and this is my? 299: You mean your foot. interviewer: Okay and I have two? 299: Feet interviewer: Okay and um this real sensitive bone right here? 299: Uh interviewer: Say maybe you you stumble over a box in the dark and bruise your? 299: Shin is what interviewer: Okay and um say if if I got down in this position you'd say I? 299: Squatted interviewer: Okay any other word for that? {NW} Have you ever heard down on your hunkers or? 299: Yeah I've heard of that uh huh hunker down. interviewer: Does that mean the same thing to you? 299: Yeah interviewer: As squat? 299: Yeah it does. interviewer: Okay {overlaid} but would you say down on your hunkers? 299: You could but I I don't ever {C: tape noise} I usually say squat all the time. interviewer: Okay and um say someone had been sick for awhile you say well he's up and about now but he still looks a bit? 299: Peak-ed interviewer: Okay and um say someone who's in in real good shape and can lift heavy weights and so fourth you say that he's? 299: Strong or uh muscle man interviewer: Okay any any other word you might use? Say you say um someone very athletic who's is very 299: Active or interviewer: Okay would you use the word stout? 299: Yeah I would but I just didn't think of it. interviewer: What what does that word mean? Um what do you 299: Strong stout {overlaid} to me stout means strong and I say stout a lot. interviewer: Okay um would you use that word stout talking about butter that was turning bad? {C: tape noise} {overlaid} Say the butter was getting stout? 299: You could and I think I've heard it but I never do really think of it you know. I usually think of that as more of getting rank or something like that {C: tape noise} you know. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Yeah that the word stout at least the way I picture it you know I think stout as being sort of heavy or fat. 299: Mhmm interviewer: Is that what you picture? Or do you picture it meaning the same as stong? 299: I think of the strong when you say stout. interviewer: Okay and um say someone who's real easy to get along with you'd say that that person is very? 299: Easygoing interviewer: Okay any other words? 299: Agreeable or um interviewer: You say clever or admirable or pleasant or? 299: Pleasant but the others don't come to me very interviewer: Yeah what's something would you say those same words about a horse maybe or some other animal? 299: Clever I've heard animals being clever. interviewer: Uh huh but what about meaning that they are easy to get along with? {overlaid} 299: Tame I think of {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay would you say good natured? 299: Good natured yeah. That's a good I mean usually with animals you think of a good natured animal mhmm. interviewer: Okay and um say someone like a teenaged boy that just seems to be all arms and legs you say that he's? 299: Gawky {C: tape noise} interviewer: Huh? 299: Gawky interviewer: Okay any other words? #1 Say if # 299: #2 awkward or # interviewer: #1 # 299: #2 # he could be awkward or {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay {overlaid} say someone who just keeps on doing things that just don't make any sense you'd say that that person's just a plain? 299: Idiot interviewer: Okay would you use another word? Do you say the word fool? 299: Well I don't ever {NW} you could. Ya a lot of people do but I'd still never use the word fool. interviewer: Is that {overlaid} is that I mean is that 299: That's another bad word {C: tape noise} {NW} {overlaid} interviewer: The word bull 299: Yeah bull and fool we just didn't get to use those words. {NW} interviewer: Okay um say someone who never has a lot of money but just {C: tape noise} never spends a cent? {C: tape noise} 299: Tight wad interviewer: Okay and um when you use the word common about a person what does it mean? 299: Well uh when we think of common and we use common a lot it means low down. interviewer: Mhmm 299: Uh mean or {C: tape noise} {D: trash} {overlaid} mhmm that's one thing. interviewer: Just sorta like white trash {C: tape noise} 299: Uh huh no good just interviewer: Yeah 299: Uh huh interviewer: When you use it about a girl does it mean any special? 299: Yeah {C: tape noise} it means she's trash no good. interviewer: But does it have more of a sexual meaning or? 299: Yeah it usually would. It means that she's done all there's to do. {NW} interviewer: Okay and um say that you talking about an old person maybe around eighties still does his farm work and you know still gets around real well for his age you'd say say that he's quite? 299: Active or uh I I couldn't think of the word.{C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay what about spry or pert 299: Yeah uh spry. Spry is what I think of um interviewer: Okay but it's would you use that word about children? But does that sound funny? {overlaid} 299: Well yeah spry I would. I don't know is I was ever I I don't usually I I usually say uh {overlaid} oh {overlaid} I said it today that. Well I can't think what I am used to but. Live wire that's what I call kids. interviewer: Live wire? 299: Yeah instead of uh saying they're peppy or interviewer: Yeah and all that I say live wire. {C: tape noise} {NW} I never really heard that so I guess that {C: tape noise} 299: When they are just into everything you know and just interviewer: Yeah 299: never stop they're live wire. {C: tape noise} {NW} interviewer: Okay and say um say your children are {X} usually say well I don't suppose there's anything wrong but still I can't help feeling a little? 299: Worried interviewer: Okay or a little 299: Concerned or interviewer: Okay you say you wouldn't feel easy about it you'd say you felt? 299: Uneasy interviewer: Okay and um you might say well I'm not going upstairs in the dark I'm? 299: Afraid interviewer: Okay and um you know there's say when you use the word afraid do you think of that as being sort of a a temporary thing you know just sudden or do you think of that as being well 299: Well in other words scared interviewer: Yeah 299: means uh scared is when it to me it's sudden. interviewer: Uh huh 299: Afraid it could mean something that {C: tape noise} with you all the time. Uh huh scared to me is something that all the sudden scares you you know. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay and um you know that song the old gray mare she ain't what she? 299: Used to be interviewer: Okay and um using that expression used to be um you say well I don't understand why she is afraid now she? 299: Didn't used to be. interviewer: Okay and um someone who leaves a lot of money on the table and then goes out and doesn't even bother to lock the door? #1 You'd say? # 299: #2 Careless # interviewer: Huh? 299: Careless interviewer: Okay and um you say there is nothing really wrong with Aunt Lindy but sometimes she acts kind of? {C: tape noise} 299: Queer or senile or interviewer: Okay {C: tape noise} 299: odd. interviewer: Does that word queer do you what does that mean exactly? {C: tape noise} 299: Well it used to mean anything {C: tape noise} but nowaday {NW} if you are queer you're {C: laughing} that has a sexual meaning now. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay but you remember your your parents {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} use that word or? {C: tape noise} 299: Yeah they use it {C: tape noise} but never never in the sense that it is used today. interviewer: Would you ever back then would you ever use the word as a noun {C: tape noise} would you ever say so and so was a queer? {C: tape noise} Or would you just use it {C: tape noise} 299: No you'd always use it as the interviewer: #1 adjective # 299: #2 adjective uh huh # as a queer person or that queer. interviewer: Okay and um say someone who was real sure of his own ways and {C: tape noise} never wants to change and so there's no use arguing with him you know you tell him? 299: They're hard-headed bull-headed or stubborn or set in their ways. {C: laughing} {NW} interviewer: Okay and um somebody that you can't joke with without him losing his temper? You say that he was? {C: tape noise} {overlaid} 299: High tempered interviewer: Okay and um say that there's one subject that you can't really discuss with and you'd say {overlaid} don't mention that to him on on that issue he's still awfully? He'll get mad real easy if you say something he's still awfully what? Would you say touchous or testy or fiesty or 299: I'd say touchous interviewer: Okay 299: but I just didn't think of it. {NS} interviewer: Okay and say you might say well I was just kidding him I didn't know he'd get so? 299: Mad interviewer: Okay and um someone who is about to lose his temper you tell him to just? 299: Hold your temper and don't get mad. interviewer: Okay or just keep? 299: Keep cool interviewer: Okay and um say if you'd {overlaid} you'd been working very hard you'd say that you were very? 299: Tired interviewer: Okay any other words? {overlaid} What about if you were very very tired you'd say you were just completely? 299: Wore out interviewer: Okay and um say if a person had been well and all the sudden you heard that the person had a some disease you might ask well well when did she? 299: Get sick interviewer: Okay and um say if if a person had been outside and is was raining and then you came in and started sneezing and coughing and everything you'd say that he had? 299: Uh caught a cold or uh interviewer: Okay and um it if if it affected his voice you'd say that he was? 299: Horse interviewer: Okay and {C: tape noise} {NW} you do that you say you have a? 299: Cough interviewer: Okay and um say if you got someone some medicine and you went in there and the medicine was still just right by his bed you might ask well why haven't you? 299: Took any interviewer: Okay and you might say well I already? 299: Took it interviewer: Okay and you say in another hour or so I'll? 299: Take it interviewer: Okay and somebody who can't hear anything you'd say that they're? 299: Hard of hearing interviewer: Okay or just completely? 299: Deaf {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay did you ever hear deef? 299: Yeah I have. interviewer: Who would say that? 299: I don't know what {C: tape noise} my mother used to say deaf {C: pronunciation} deaf and dumb. {C: pronunciation} {NW} Cause I've heard older people say deaf {C: pronunciation} and dumb. {overlaid} interviewer: Okay say if a if a man had been out in the sun working you know {C: tape noise} he takes off his shirt and it's all wet he'd say look how much I? 299: Sweated interviewer: Okay and um a sore that comes to a head? 299: You mean a pimple or a boil. interviewer: Okay um any other what if it's got more than one core to it? Would you call it a boil then? 299: Rising interviewer: Okay you ever hear carbuncle? 299: Yeah I have interviewer: What is that? 299: I think of them being on the back of your neck. {C: tape noise} That's a boil it's a boil or or rising as you call it on the back of your neck it's what I think of. {overlaid} But it could be that it could be other places. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Yeah {overlaid} What what do you call the stuff that comes out when the when it all goes? 299: Corruption interviewer: Huh? 299: Corruption interviewer: Okay and um in a blister what do you call that stuff? 299: I call that uh {C: tape noise} water. interviewer: Okay and um you say a bee stung me and my hand what? My hand you say? 299: Swelled interviewer: Okay and you say it's still pretty badly? 299: Swelled I'd say. interviewer: Okay and you say if it's not infected it probably won't? 299: Swell interviewer: Okay and um say if someone got shot or stabbed you'd say you'd you'd get a doctor to look at the? 299: Well {NS} y- you you, a word like "wound." interviewer: Okay 299: But I don't usually say wound I never do say it I don't know what I say. {NW} I never say I mean I just never do think of uh uh um {C: tape noise} you know a hurt place. interviewer: Uh huh 299: I guess I call it a hurt place {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} does that interviewer: What about say I would use it say talking about the bullet wound. {C: tape noise} {overlaid} What what would you say there? 299: I just don't really know because I just don't really I hardly ever say the word I don't ever say a wound I don't know. Because I just don't really know {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} You know it sounded more sophisticated uh huh it really did. {NS} You know in a to me a wound is something you studied in health book you never did actually say it yourself. {C: tape noise} {overlaid} interviewer: Huh I never really 299: How to bandage a wo- wound {C: tape noise} you know we studied that in health {C: tape noise} interviewer: How to dress a wound. 299: dress a wound {C: tape noise} uh huh and uh but we never did actually use the word wound. {C: tape noise} Something more sophisticated. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Yeah I think I just {C: tape noise} use the word myself in the expression bullet wound 299: Uh huh interviewer: or something. 299: Uh huh interviewer: I don't come to think of it I don't think I say it that much either. 299: Sometimes you don't realize what you do say you know. {NW} interviewer: What if say if it if it dodn't heal clean if you had uh cut or wound or whatever you know it didn't heal back clean and and got this sorta white granulate substance? 299: Infected or interviewer: Okay have you ever heard that called something that had to be cut out or burned out you ever heard of some some kind of flesh? 299: Proud flesh interviewer: Uh huh what's that like? 299: Well that's almost what happened to my jaw. interviewer: Really? 299: See interviewer: Huh {overlaid} 299: Uh see I had a abscess that came to a head on the outside and then uh mother carried me to the uh ol''' doctor {C: tape noise} in a in Erin you know. {C: tape noise} {NW} He lanced it {C: tape noise} interviewer: Mhmm 299: and then it didn't it didn't want to heal right almost all summer long {NS} then the {C: tape noise} inside flesh tried to {C: tape noise} you know tried to come out. And then it would try to heal but it had that proud flesh. {overlaid} So that's what sorta what it was. interviewer: Is it something sorta like that or that I got earlier. 299: Yeah sorta in other words it looks like flesh from the inside. interviewer: Hmm 299: Purtrudes out and then it it heals around and sorta makes a {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} that's what makes a scar more so than it would if it healed right. {C: tape noise} interviewer: That? 299: Yeah usually you do have it around your elbow. {C: tape noise} So that's proud flesh. interviewer: Have you heard about animal skinning? {overlaid} Someone who had a horse told me once about 299: Had proud flesh I guess so but I don't know for sure. interviewer: Yeah um say if you had a little cut on your finger or somethin' you might put this brown liquid on that stings. 299: Oh uh I iodine we used to call it "idane." {C: pronunciation} interviewer: Okay and what about a real white bitter powder that {Overlaid} a long time ago used to come in capsules and people take it for colds? 299: Wasn't quinine was it? interviewer: Okay and um say say someone was shot and didn't recover you'd say that he? 299: Died interviewer: Okay any nicer ways of saying that? 299: Passed away interviewer: Okay any crude ways of saying that? 299: Kicked the bucket {C: laughing} {NS} interviewer: Okay and um you say he's been dead a week and nobody's figured out yet what he died? {overlaid} 299: With or of interviewer: Okay and um the place where people are buried? 299: Graveyard interviewer: Okay 299: or cemetary interviewer: Is that the that the same thing? 299: Same thing but we all said graveyard {C: tape noise} interviewer: Uh huh what about a a place out may maybe on someone's farm that just a few people like your great grandparents or someone you know buried out there just a small sort of family? 299: Mhmm I bet family plot or just a graveyard's what I call it. interviewer: Okay and um the box that people are buried in? 299: Well a casket or a coffin. {C: tape noise} interviewer: What's the difference? 299: To me there is no difference really. {overlaid} interviewer: Do you ever remember seeing the the real old fashioned ones made out of wood? 299: Not without being covered now I do remember when almost all of 'em were covered with this ol' um oh {C: tape noise} {overlaid} what's stuff like couches used to be made out of that old uh {C: tape noise} material looking stuff you know. {overlaid} Nowadays most of them are steel or or you know of a heavy some kind of {overlaid} something. But I I remember most of 'em were just made out of covered with ju- they were wooden boxes just covered with uh either a pink or a blue you know material or old gray uh I don't know what I'm trying to say but like these old couches used to be made out of. Sort of plush looking thing. {NS} They scratch you like. {overlaid} interviewer: You don't mean some sort of velvet do you? 299: No it is more like old couches if you remember couches used to be covered with um just a real rough scratchy {overlaid} like material. {overlaid} I I don't really know what you'd call it. {overlaid} But they used to uh couches used to be covered with that stuff. {overlaid} But I sure don't know what you'd call it. {NW} interviewer: Yeah say the ceremony? 299: The funeral interviewer: Okay and if people dress in black you'd say that they're in? 299: Mourning interviewer: Okay what if they just sort of completely lose control of themselves? Like just sort of go into hysteria. 299: Go all to pieces or get hysterical. interviewer: Okay would you ever use the expression taking on carrying on? 299: Carrying on I'd say. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay and um say on on an average sort of day if someone asked you how are feeling you'd say? 299: I'd say alright some people say tolerable. {NW} interviewer: Okay and um say if someone {C: tape noise} {overlaid} was upset about something you might tell 'em oh it's gonna be alright just don't? 299: Carry on or get upset or interviewer: Okay or um say if if your children were out late and your husband was getting a little upset about it you'd say? They'll get home just don't? 299: Worry about it. interviewer: Okay and when you get old and and your joints start giving you trouble you call that? 299: Rheumatism {C: tape noise} or arthritis interviewer: Okay and um {NW} {overlaid} this is a disease that well you'd children used to get it and die from it and except they don't hardly ever get it anymore? 299: Well uh polio or uh interviewer: Something that 299: #1 {D:Rickies} # interviewer: #2 they choke up # with. 299: Oh diptheria {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay and um a disease where where your skin turns yellow? {overlaid} 299: Uh is that yellow jaundice. interviewer: Okay you ever heard of that? 299: I think I had a touch of it when I was a child. interviewer: Really? 299: Well uh {C: tape noise} uh they say if you really had had it you don't get over it. {C: tape noise} Mine might have been a touch of the you know how small kids do have {C: tape noise} they just have slight cases of it. interviewer: Mhmm 299: But I did have a light case and my eyes the whites of my eyes sorta turned yellow. And I don't know I don't know the difference in hepatitus and well hepatitus is when yellow jaundice goes into into a {C: tape noise} interviewer: Yeah 299: more serious case isn't? interviewer: I think I'm not real sure cause 299: But I had a touch of somethin' when I was small and just the whites of my eyes sorta turned yellow but they say if you have a {C: tape noise} a real case of it you know you really are bothered most of your life. So I don't know if mine was very bad or not. interviewer: Huh um say when when you have a pain down here you say you have? 299: Appendicitis interviewer: Okay do you remember what people used to call it before they new what it was and they'd die from? {overlaid} 299: No I don't. You know uh old people used to say you's bilious all the time. interviewer: Meaning? 299: Well used to anytime anybody was sick or dragging around or wasn't feeling good um they would be everybody was bilious. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Huh 299: A bilious fever or bilious {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} so uh interviewer: Never heard of that. 299: Yeah {C: tape noise} well uh in uh they had ol' doctor's book upstairs and it was a cure for bilious fever {NW} so interviewer: What was the cure? 299: I forgot whatcha did {C: tape noise} you know give 'em uh {C: tape noise} salts or something. {C: laughing} {NW} interviewer: Say if someone ate something that didn't agree with them and it wouldn't stay down you'd say that he had to? {C: tape noise} 299: Throw up or vomit run. interviewer: Okay any crude ways of saying? 299: Puke {C: laughing} interviewer: Huh? 299: Puke interviewer: Okay and if someone vomited you'd say that he was sick where? {overlaid} 299: Sick at the stomach interviewer: Okay and um say if if a boy was spending a lot of time with a girl going over to her house and so fourth you'd say that he was? 299: Courting her interviewer: Okay 299: or sweet on her. {NW} interviewer: Both of those words are told during dating? 299: gra- uh my grandmother u- sweet on her. {C: tape noise} {NW} interviewer: What would they say then that that he was he was her? {C: tape noise} 299: My grandmother would say that he was her sweetheart {C: tape noise} but I'd say he he's her boyfriend. interviewer: Uh huh and she'd be his? 299: Girlfriend {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay {overlaid} what would they say they were? {C: tape noise} 299: Still a sweetheart say boy or girl either one of them would be sweethearts. interviewer: Okay do you use that word courting or how would you say that? 299: Courting {C: tape noise} interviewer: You'd you still use the word courting? 299: I do uh huh interviewer: Okay any other expressions like it? 299: {overlaid} Dating interviewer: Okay and um say if a boy came home with lipstick on his collar? {overlaid} You'd say he'd probably been doing what? 299: Kissing or I don't know petting. interviewer: Okay do you use the word um any old fashion word for kissing? 299: Smooching {X} interviewer: Okay ever hear bussing or? 299: Yeah I have heard of bussing that's an old word really though isn't? interviewer: Yeah I I think of it. 299: Real old {overlaid} interviewer: Say if uh if the girl suddenly stops letting the boy come over to see her you'd say that she {overlaid} what? 299: She's what do you mean quitting or mad at him or? interviewer: Okay and um say if he asked her to marry him but she? 299: {C: tape noise} Turned him down. interviewer: Okay what if they if they were already in engaged maybe and all the sudden she? 299: Broke the engagement {C: tape noise} interviewer: Okay would you use that word turned him down for that or? Any other any other expressions? 299: Well I've heard broke off the engagement. interviewer: Okay and um you say if she didn't turn him down you say they went ahead and got? 299: Married interviewer: Okay any humorous ways of saying that? 299: Hitched interviewer: Okay do you ever hear jump jumped the broomstick or? 299: I don't know if I have or not uh. interviewer: Um and at a wedding the boy that stands up with the groom is called the? 299: Best man interviewer: Okay and the woman that stands up with the bride? 299: Maid of honor or {C: tape noise} bridesmaid. interviewer: Okay 299: Or maid of honor is when she's married. {C: tape noise} Or bridesmaid is {X} interviewer: Yeah 299: Wherever interviewer: I'm not sure. Do you remember um hearing about {NW} say well maybe they still do it I don't know but when people would in the community would get married other people would? 299: Chivaree interviewer: Okay what was that like? 299: We used to have those. interviewer: Really? 299: You uh lots of times you surprised 'em they didn't actually know you's coming you just uh go to the house {C: tape noise} just everybody in the community {C: tape noise} young people usually well anybody {C: tape noise} you just um oh ganging their house at night. {C: tape noise} {overlaid} And uh they were supposed to have treats uh you know refreshments {C: tape noise} candy or something for you. And uh {C: tape noise} {C: tape noise} if they didn't have they were supposed to uh do really do somethin' to 'em. And they did anyways lots of times {C: tape noise} and I've actually know 'em to ride 'em on a rail. interviewer: Really? 299: They ride the boy on a rail and then throw him in the pond. {C: tape noise} {overlaid} Out in the pond and the water with his clothes on. {C: tape noise} And then they'd take the girl lots of times and ride her in a tub {C: tape noise} one of the wash tubs. And they've actually done that with {C: tape noise} since I've been {C: tape noise} big enough to remember. interviewer: Huh all this was just done in fun though. 299: Yeah mmhmm yeah {C: tape noise} and usually they never did get mad I mean. interviewer: Yeah 299: Uh huh but nowadays they don't if they even as I got older they they quit that throwing them in the pond but oh they have throwed them in when they have to break the ice {C: tape noise} in the winter time. Just think like fish. {C: tape noise} And back in the old uh you know olden days they really chivareed them just just really fixed 'em up {C: tape noise} good you know. It's just a trick and the good kind you know. interviewer: Was this just after they were married? 299: Uh huh lots of it is near the time that they're married it's possible uh they liked to and it the more popular the couple was in the community {C: tape noise} the more app they was {C: tape noise} to be chivareed. interviewer: {NW} 299: And uh so they yeah they just loved to catch them off {C: tape noise} guard you know. And then lots of times they actually advertised you know a certain night were gonna chivaree and let them know it's coming up. {C: tape noise} So there's been different types of chivarees really. interviewer: Huh none of them have ever ever met the people were mad or anything? 299: Uh uh no it was just strickly in fun. The the better chivaree you had the better you were liked the more popular you are. {C: tape noise} {overlaid} interviewer: Um say if you were um had gone to to Chattanooga last weekend. I would just say that you say last week I was? What I'm interested in is you know the words up or down or over? 299: Oh interviewer: How? 299: I'd say I went up to Chattanooga. interviewer: Okay what about why would you say up? {overlaid} How do 299: Well interviewer: you look at things like that? 299: I've a {overlaid} I've never known for sure that I just look I look almost on everything as being north of us. {C: tape noise} You know like that. And most a lot of places I say up that they're not actually uh north of us. {C: tape noise} Because I don't even think Nashville is north of {C: tape noise} But I I believe Nashville is north. {C: tape noise} #1 Well either way # interviewer: #2 What do you say about Nashville? # 299: I say up I went up to {C: tape noise} Nashville or. interviewer: Uh huh 299: And the only places {C: tape noise} see I think of the map everytime I {C: tape noise} I think of a maps order. interviewer: Uh huh 299: And I only think of everything that looks like it's hover uh {C: tape noise} as up. {C: tape noise} And then the {C: tape noise} everything that's down is either like Georiga Alabama Texas Florida. interviewer: Uh huh 299: And uh {C: tape noise} everything else is up. And then course out home uh everything that up the road or down the road sorta went in the section of which way the qui- creek run. But the kids that would come to our house they would they always said the opposite of what we did. They'd say there there they go down the road and we'd say nah they're going up the road. interviewer: Which way was up to you? 299: Uh interviewer: Flowing the way the creek did or the other way? 299: To tell you the truth I wa- I was saying it backwards to the creek. The when we said up the road {overlaid} it was going up to the head of the stream interviewer: Yeah {C: tape noise} 299: Down was {C: tape noise} the way this creek was flowing. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Mhmm 299: Down the stream you see. Down {C: tape noise} the road and then down the stream {C: tape noise} you know. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Oh I see. {C: tape noise} Do you ever use over? {C: tape noise} Say over to such and such a place or? 299: Sometime uh huh But I can't think of any special purpose. interviewer: Okay do you think of cities that you say that about? 299: I can't think of any in particular that I'd say over to myself. interviewer: Yeah say um you say the police came and they didn't arrest just one or two of 'em they arrested the? 299: Whole gang interviewer: Okay and um what do youn- you know young people go out in the evening and they move around on the floor to music you call that a? 299: A dance interviewer: Okay do you ever hear of a different names for different types of dances? 299: Well like uh in this country square dancing and uh see and they they used to call round dancing and as far as the waltz you know {C: tape noise} and course uh now dancing is got all the different names of the twist interviewer: Yeah 299: and all that {C: tape noise} that I'm not familiar with. interviewer: Do you ever of a special name for a dance that you'd hold have at home? 299: Square dance interviewer: Okay 299: that's the main thing. interviewer: And um say if children get out of school at four o'clock you'd say that four o'clock is the time when school? 299: Lets out or turns out. interviewer: Okay and children might ask after vacation when does school? 299: Start interviewer: Okay and um say if a boy left home to go to school and didn't show up that day you'd say that he? 299: Play hookey interviewer: Okay um and you say you go to school to get a? 299: Education interviewer: Okay and after high school you go on to? 299: College interviewer: Okay and after kindergarden you go into the? 299: First grade interviewer: Okay any older name for? 299: Primer interviewer: Huh? 299: Primer interviewer: Okay who said that? 299: Well I was {C: tape noise} uh I can remember when they actually had the primer. {overlaid} You in fact you first started the school in my day you didn't have {C: tape noise} kindergarden anyway {C: tape noise} and uh in my day {C: tape noise} uh {C: tape noise} {NW} they had {C: tape noise} the first of the year they might call it the primer interviewer: Mhmm 299: and then uh {C: tape noise} you were in the first grade say about Christmas time or after you finished your first little primer they called it. interviewer: So the the primer referred to the book? 299: Sorta the they also the first little book you had was your primer. And when you went first readers and uh you had the first {C: tape noise} level and second level and something like that. But back in my mother's day I've heard her say you spent the whole first year in your primer maybe {C: tape noise} and then you went in next year you went into first grade sometime. {C: tape noise} interviewer: Yeah you ever call the first grade first reader then? Did you ever hear that? 299: Uh {C: tape noise} older people my mother and people talk of it as first reader. interviewer: Huh 299: But uh {C: tape noise} in my day being in first reader was reading in your first little book and as soon as you finished that you's in {C: tape noise} you's in the second reader maybe. But you wasn't in second grade you just in the {C: tape noise} second reader you know. interviewer: Yeah you talk about just 299: #1 uh huh # interviewer: #2 the book # 299: that's right. interviewer: Huh 299: But mother and them they didn't they actually mean the first grade is first reader you know. interviewer: Yeah say um years ago children sat on benches but now they sit at? 299: Desks interviewer: Okay so each child has his own? 299: Desk interviewer: Okay and um if you wanted to check out a book you'd go to the? 299: Library interviewer: Okay and to mail a letter? 299: Well to the post office or mailbox. interviewer: Okay and you'd stay over night in a strange town at a? 299: Hotel or motel interviewer: And you see a play or movie at a? 299: Theater interviewer: Okay and if you were real sick you might have to go into the? 299: Hospital interviewer: Okay and the woman that'd look after you would be a? 299: Nurse interviewer: Okay and you'd catch a train at the? 299: Depot interviewer: Okay or you might call that the rail? 299: Railroad station interviewer: Okay and say if if um say if this were somebody's yard say and it goes like this and a person instead of walking like this walk like this you'd say that he walked? 299: Jaywalk interviewer: Okay but or say 299: Catty corner {C: fading}