303: {NS} Now if you're the biggest thing in the house then it could happen to you. He lost control of it and it's slip it's slipping and sliding on him. And uh there's another car behind him pushing him. And said that's what you need right underneath it. and I told him alright then and tell their daddy about it and and fixed to do something about it. Interviewer: yeah 303: And he said he'd put it back in as good as it was and {NS} {NS} about a hundred and fifty dollars. {NS} just from that one window. Interviewer: Hmm 303: People form glass that that big and getting somebody to do the work it's going to cost you. Interviewer: yeah. 303: It's going to cost you. this window {D: he stole it in this town and} tear it takes a lot of money to put it back and to get somebody to put it back. Interviewer: mm-hmm Seems like you had a lot of trouble with that storm and 303: huh? Interviewer: You had a storm. 303: yeah we had a storm out here Let's see. I can't tell you the exact date it was. {NS} It's been {NS} three {NS} It's been two months and Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: since we had a storm took the top off of my house here pulled it off. {X} It went over my the garage out there and my other house then ducked down again and I got a chicken house down in there Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: down there about fifty yards further. It dipped down and caught that thing at the bottom. Turned it {D: turned a tree over another man's field}. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: Then god willing I couldn't put it back without tying it up but I wouldn't put it back I was just better little bit better shape than I am now. I towed it up and I had one brother to help me. And uh we put it back. He helped me more in a day then I had in a year. Put it I put the henhouse back. Been sitting there ever since. {NS} And uh went on up to mister uh Lanks's house Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: I talked with Lane in front of my my chicken house and he had a cedar and there's a broken fence there. big as that chair there of cedar wood here And he twisted that cedar up around and down to the stump. up up into splinters {D: and then they just laughed} There's old Mr. Lanks's house. And they had a trailer up by the door they had a trailer. see {D: she said we're gonna move we're gonna move in it} But she helped me get down there to her mother's house that evening when the storm come. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and uh Whenever it come they had just got back from somewhere and and they were standing there in the yard before we went in the house and looking and she says says says says says says look at that cloud how black it is. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: Says yes and says I I hear something roaring. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And says mother says I been wrong says no you ain't says you stay right down here you and your husband. Go in the house and in the living room wherever you want to. And says don't you worry. Go back to the trailer. And she says well Ma I {X} and look at how black it is. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And uh They made 'em they made 'em move to one house and locked the door and went all the way in and sat down. until some of 'em got up and looked out out the window And she said she says she says says here's the storm and says well what if I can't help it? and about that time it hit that trailer hit that trailer Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and tore it all to pieces. Interviewer: hmm 303: It j- just hulled it out and tore it all to pieces and turned it over nothing left nothing there but the wheel. The foundation it's sitting on was all that left it moved that. Think it turned that around. And if she'd of been up there her and the boy and her husband if there wasn't a way for them to escape it it'd kill 'em all. But they stayed down right it didn't hit them it didn't take that house. It went right over the house. And dipped down again that's on that trailer about through here down here on the road. about a hundred and fifty yards different and the difference that time time after it hit that trailer it rooted up went over water town and uh hit a few things over there but didn't tear up any. {NS} Interviewer: Was that the worst storm you've been in? 303: mm yes was about a more strong than I've been in {NS} But my wife been in a worse storm than that. {NS} And uh down here at uh pick up where the white people That's where farmer Armstrong raised her. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: She went down when she was six years old and when she come away from there she was eighteen year old. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: Then I married her then after she was eighteen when she left eighteen or nineteen. twenty She was I think she was twenty years old when I married her. And we've been together ever since up until october the twenty-first nineteen seven and uh and and seventy-two. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: That's when she left me. dear lord {NS} {NS} And we accumulated and made a lot of money. We'd been robbed once. Interviewer: #1 really # 303: #2 And they didn't # didn't go over to our farm. some of it was some folks come out sat out in the car. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: Well I didn't want 'em to come in but he said uh {D: gonna get back on the specs} and you can't see good out here in this sun and this grass so let's take it in the kitchen before we using it. Turn the light on and see the flower. Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 303: #2 Well I told 'em already # I can see 'em out here good enough. I don't care none about no room. My wife was over there. {D: the barn clean out cash stable} Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: I'd lift 'em coming up right down that when I'd seen 'em drive up right up by the house. And during the time there's there's three of 'em. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: There's one boy about about six about six foot slender made red hair. He's the one that showed me the carpet. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And there's another about my height and uh {NW} And there was another one in the car I never did see him get out but this this other one well he mi- he wasn't hardly as as tall as I was but he was heavy little heavy big fella he was a little heavier than I was. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: built he run on and {D: while I} turn that go and turn the light on. Opened the car and I say see that now there yes said ain't it pretty do what he will and he six foot high and we was standing in the kitchen door the house door and the carpet running around over cover that door oh but little he could slip in inside it. And I couldn't look over him. Cause I ain't six foot high I'm just eight foot nine I mean eight foot nine. five foot nine. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And I like nine ten eleven twelve I like three inches and been six foot would've straighten that And I couldn't see see over him and that boy slipped in there. And went on in the main sitting room and went back in the the back room where the bedroom was and company and uh went in to {NS} that several right there uh inside that I showed you yesterday opened it and my wife had a pocket book a black pocket book with her. two {D: spots} on. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And she should've kept my money and her money together And she had a lot of turkey money she had three hundred and three hundred and fifty dollar turkey money. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And I had the rest Working working out I worked out and sold cattle and um and I'd been meaning to take it to the bank but just didn't do it. And uh the starting of that this man comes out to paint in my house pop {NS} Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 303: #2 I didn't want him to paint but # he insist on it. He was going to paint it so cheap I well ain't nobody have a house painted that cheap. Says I'll paint it for five dollars. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And uh when they set the pump down and that truck out there he went to pumping me. And he told me look at this gage on this pump. I looked at it said you can't even read. {NS} here thanks again And he says well says there's uh {NW} You see where it start yes Says I'm going to turn it on now and he turned it on. He just kept coming down kept come on down. Sell you sell you for gallon and three quarter. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And he gave me the three quarters. I didn't want the paint I asked him for I paid in check no He didn't want no check. Well I said if you don't take a check you don't get your money. He said yes I will too And the old lady she's standing in the door and listen as he talk. and uh Old lady says you said you'd paint for five dollars. Now you charging five dollars a little old for a gallon. Why didn't you say that before you went up there? He says well says that's what I meant and well that's what it meant. And uh he says no says I I didn't did He was a detailer Says but that stuff costs us money and you see that by the gate you sell What it runs down to thirty-four gallons. And uh and three quarters and I'm going to need for that. And uh they was sitting in the house then. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And uh I had parted off and pocket knife and pull that out and give it to him and told my wife to go back in that room. And she went back in the room got a hundred dollars. Well she would give it to me and they was looking and going on this side and kept looking see which way she was going in there. He sat and looked at her he didn't look up at me. Nor would the other one he sat down and just held over and looked and when she come out she come out with a hundred dollars and he already took his head and looked at And then he bowed his head and looked back. But I didn't think nothing bou-bout- about him doing that. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And nine months {NW} and three days they come back well that's when they're uh Interviewer: the same people? 303: same people the same people See they know they this boy you won't push him {D: say I came for some money} I imagine he tells the rest of 'em says cause I sat there and looked at him when she come out with that hundred dollar. And we agreed to let him off with a hundred and forty dollars. He keeping forty. She went back in there and got a hundred and now he know we've got money that I've stayed away. for you know 'em I reckon and uh come back Well when they come back they it's hard to tell 'em. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and they started uh just different Interviewer: #1 yeah # 303: #2 They didn't dress like they did before. # And that's where {D: another way for me} by that and I didn't exactly know 'em but the same heights and all but they's changed. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and the the his hair was was dark dark when it was red when he was there. They had his hair darkened Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: saw that blue net color Interviewer: sorry what? 303: a blue net. Interviewer: What's that? 303: A color Interviewer: #1 oh oh yeah # 303: #2 of his hair # his hair. And so that that that made it look like somebody else to me. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And uh that's the reason they had a chance to rob me. Interviewer: Well what did you do after they robbed you? 303: Well I didn't know till supper time that night I would've but I still didn't know it. and uh It's supper time I'd eat supper. My wife has washed up the dishes. And she says she a keep stirs did something happen here? And so she's As she got to dish washing went on back in there Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and opened this dresser bureau and cicero whatever it is sitting right here now. she had sitting in the bottom Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: when she raised up the bottom but he's so big he wouldn't come out of there but she had this in the pocket books down in there black pocket book. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: she told it do whatever where she went when she's out then {NS} She raise raised it up. says sterling I was sitting in the rocking chair. Says what. Said we've been robbed. {NS} I said oh no. She says oh yes. And something told me and it says I you ain't you joking I says {D: she says wait I'll come in there} She come over there open open the part where he you see that you see your pocket book it's gone. Mine is gone. Says left one quarter in the bottom when it fell out or something. Says all not one quarter. {D: well I just sat back in the chair and fell back} give a long breath I said well don't tell nobody. She says yes {D: I can keep from telling}} {X} And it's that much money seven hundred and fifty dollars. It's worth talking about. Interviewer: Seven hundred and fifty? 303: Seven hundred and fifty dollars. Interviewer: gosh 303: Well I just lay back in the chair and let out a long breath. I said well we'll make it anyhow so I've got to do something. three or four thousand dollars worth of stocks I said we'll sell some of these {D: kegs} and uh {D: you sell uh seventy thirties} {NS} We'll we'll how We can get by. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: She said yes but this ain't what what we were taught run and put it back. I said this I've been angry go to the bank and put this in there She said I told you back only a month ago. Why didn't you take this money and put it in the bank? And she said I blame you for every bit of it. I want seven hundred and fifty dollar of my money and she says I blame you for it. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And I says well do you want me to pay you back? And I lost more than you. Say that don't make no difference you used you turn it to me. And you let 'em get it. {D unbeknownst to you} You didn't know. And I seen this boy when he come out of the room when he come around the carpet but it didn't seem anyone in there. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: Turned up the bed first. Then add another bed on the side and go and turn that up. And raise the pillows up and looked under the {D: pillows take them on in the room}. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And looked in this thing and that's where he found it. {NS} Interviewer: Why didn't you Why didn't you call the police? 303: Well there wasn't no use. They done gone. And we couldn't identify I called white people call the police for me that after they found it out they let none of us bunch of police about five or six come from {X} and uh when they come they brought one of them fellows that sort as him with him. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: sit in the carpet and so after after it brought him with me w- uh with him it it turned around in my yard and uh this big police get out uh hello uncle yes sir come out here I went out there. and He says uh it had him in his own car. This fellow had sit in the carpet says you get out and freed him up let the the uncle look at you. I looked at him. I said no. He was that man ain't never been here before. Uh you say that man ain't been here before? yes sir Will you slide? yes sir Well how can you tell? I said well these other fellows were middle aged people. And how could you tell? I said I can tell by I can guess how I don't care who it is. White or black I can guess in three years your age. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and well Where's your wife? They said tell her to step out here. Tell her to come to the door. {D: dessie} yes what Are you coming to the door? take a good look at this fellow standing here. Has you ever b- you ever seen him here before? She says no lordy that ain't the man that's that man uh got some age on him. These other people was about thirty thirty five year old. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And she says another things that he was balded like my husband. H-h-he ain't got no hair up here. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: And he says r-run it back a little further. And my husband and he's a heavy set fellow and he's fleshy and there wasn't but one of these fleshy but he's in d-dark and peckered skin. And says I can tell from here I can see good. {D: says you're supposed to turn him in} Well that fellow was so glad to hear that. Interviewer: yeah 303: and he and they pulled me say told him you saved for all that. says well {NW} {NS} Says you get in this back in your car and drive out in front of us. And says don't sell none other carpet in in Tennessee nowhere. {NS} Now state of Tennessee. And don't sell any other carpet. Well he said bye back then says I won't I won't. Said where you live. He told 'em. But I forgot the name of the place. And says well now don't you stop here. {NW} to sell any other carpet cause I'm from took them they all says you wouldn't want folks to keep doing this and without without their consent. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: They said that you was the one we would've fastened you right here. said but then everyone seemed to think that you were in a bunch of {D: talk and we just} that that's an excuse so you go on back to uh uh what's the name {D: wait a minute} and he says don't be stopping in Tennessee and selling another carpet. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and he thanked them says I won't He was {D: hyped} up so he got back in the car so I could tell he was {D: hyped} up well I wasn't gonna tell him no story about no seven hundred and fifty dollars if it'd been a thousand I wouldn't {X}. wouldn't decide to put it on a person I knew he wasn't even there ya see. Interviewer: yeah. 303: you he- he was just as innocent about that as anybody and uh he had no part in doing {X} boys just about all that kinda he a little boy {D: deny} oh I've got a little scattered {D: guy there} he didn't have none of them to sleep pay the rent and had had down here by the ears and the back of his head is all hair. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: he says so they're free again. yeah {NW} Interviewer: okay um we were talking yesterday about um ya know if you didn't have a doctor to deliver a baby 303: #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 they might send for this woman. # 303: uh-huh they call her a land lady uh ma- grandma grandmama. Interviewer: okay um okay uh you said if a boy has the same color hair and eyes that his father has the same shape nose and everything you'd say that he 303: #1 inherited from his father. # Interviewer: #2 okay # oh would you use a term like resembles or takes after? {NS} his father? 303: {D: say again} Interviewer: would you say he takes after his father or 303: uh he takes them takes that after his father. Interviewer: okay uh suppose he has the same mannerisms the same behavior that his father had how would you say that? 303: why he he {D: his future} happens to is just like his father and doing things. Interviewer: mm-hmm okay um and if a child was misbehaving you'd tell him oh if you do that again you're gonna get a 303: smacking. Interviewer: huh? 303: smacking. Interviewer: okay any other expressions? 303: a whooping. Interviewer: okay um you say Bob is five inches taller this year you say Bob what a lot in one year? Bob 303: Bob {X} don't know exactly the meaning of that. Interviewer: he's five inches taller than he was last year 303: his father. Interviewer: he's no he's 303: his son. Interviewer: he's taller. 303: oh Interviewer: #1 than he was. you'd say that he has # 303: #2 {X} # grown. Interviewer: okay um okay what words are there for a a child that's born to a woman that's not married? 303: {X} it's uh out law or he's a {D: illegitimate} Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: child. Interviewer: any other? 303: oh it's- it's a {NS} #1 no I don't know but two questions # Interviewer: #2 what about bastard? # 303: bastard that's right Interviewer: #1 people use that word? # 303: #2 yeah # Yeah they use that sometimes. Interviewer: what about any sort of joking words for that? have you ever heard of woods colt or 303: oh yeah. Interviewer: #1 {X}? # 303: #2 uh # uh uh woods woods colt. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: and that's as far as I know. Interviewer: okay okay talking about the word loving you could say Jay is a loving child but Peggy is even 303: better. Interviewer: okay or using the word loving Peggy is even 303: more loving. Interviewer: okay um your brother's son is called your 303: my brother's son is called my my uncle? Interviewer: yep his son do you have a brother? 303: mm-hmm Interviewer: #1 is he # 303: #2 {X} # son I'd be his uncle I- Interviewer: yeah and he'd be your 303: brother's son. Interviewer: okay if it was a girl it'd be your niece. 303: yeah Interviewer: since it's a boy it's your 303: uh {X} Interviewer: your ne- neph- 303: uh my my n- my niece I reckon {X} Interviewer: okay that'd be a girl though. 303: oh yeah. yeah {NS} Interviewer: what about neph- 303: oh oh he's a nephew. Interviewer: okay and a child that's lost both his parents is called a {NS} 303: {X} Interviewer: a child that both parents are dead 303: oh it's it's uh uh I know it but I I can't pronounce it {NS} it's a Interviewer: just what did you call it 303: that's what I'm trying to think I I can't pronounce that {X} {NS} Interviewer: what about the word or- 303: huh? Interviewer: orphan. 303: oh orphan. Interviewer: what's that? 303: did you just say orphan? Interviewer: uh-huh do you ever hear that word? 303: no Interviewer: okay um someone whose parents are dead um they have a person appointed to look after them and that'd be called their legal 303: they'd call a {D: menace} Interviewer: okay or the legal guar- 303: uh guard. Interviewer: huh? 303: uh uh they {D: guardian}. #1 uh # Interviewer: #2 okay # um and if a woman gave a party and invited all the people that are related to her you'd say that she asked all her 303: friends. Interviewer: okay but all the people that are related to her. 303: uh folks. Interviewer: okay. um you say well she has the same family name that I do she does look a little bit like me but actually we're no 303: kin at all. Interviewer: okay and somebody who comes into town and nobody's ever seen him before would be called a? 303: stranger. Interviewer: okay what if he came from a different country? 303: do uh he'd be called a foreigner. Interviewer: okay and um now these are some names um the name of of the mother of Jesus. 303: mother of Jesus his father uh f- fathers uh oh I can't think of it. Interviewer: yeah um the name of Jesus's mother. starts with an M. 303: m- uh m- uh Interviewer: and what was that name? 303: m- mother? {X} {NS} Interviewer: what about um w- wh- what are some girls names starting with an M 303: well Mary. Interviewer: okay um and what about George Washington's wife? do you know what her name was? 303: Martha. Interviewer: okay and this is a nickname for Helen starts with an N 303: uh starts with N? Interviewer: yeah have you ever heard the song wait 'til the sun shines? 303: Nelly. Interviewer: #1 okay um # 303: #2 {X} # Interviewer: and a nickname for a little boy named William? 303: um William. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: his nickname would be William wouldn't it? Interviewer: okay what about a male goat what's that called? 303: a male goat's called a buck Interviewer: okay any other name what about Bi- 303: uh-huh Interviewer: Bil- 303: uh {D: they call I know what people them call} Interviewer: okay you might have the name Bill #1 you might call # 303: #2 Billy # Interviewer: huh? 303: Billy? Interviewer: okay um and the first book in the New Testament. 303: first book. Interviewer: mm-hmm the gospel. the first of the four gospels? goes something Mark Luke and John 303: well it'd be {NS} uh uh Mark uh no Interviewer: Mat- 303: um I can't get it. Interviewer: Matt is short for 303: Matt. Interviewer: uh okay something Mark Luke and John starts with an M 303: Martha? Interviewer: no Math- 303: ma- mathus. Interviewer: okay um a woman who conducts school is called a... 303: a school teacher. Interviewer: okay any old-fashioned words for that? 303: mm yes uh {NS} {D: assistant} no that's a man. Interviewer: what about school suffix school man or school {X} 303: {NS} school {NS} {NS} {X}. Interviewer: {NS} yeah okay this is a um a family name. it was a name of a barrel maker. 303: barrel maker. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: well {D: damn} I'm locked up on that I can't get a thing. {NS} Interviewer: have you ever heard the last name of Cooper or Cooper have you ever heard that? 303: I've heard some of that some of that Cooper but Cooper uh {NS} Can't think I can answer that. Interviewer: okay if you had a woman that was married who had that last name how would you call her she'd be? {NS} 303: she'd be uh {X} explain that. Interviewer: so I mean okay you would her husband would be called mister 303: miss called misses. Interviewer: and what's that last name again? 303: misses. Interviewer: yeah and her last name and 303: {NS} uh Interviewer: #1 Cooper or Cooper # 303: #2 Cooper Cooper # Interviewer: okay so how did you call her then? 303: call her name. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: misses Mrs. Cooper {D: or anything} Interviewer: okay um and a preacher that's not very well trained doesn't have a regular pulpit and uh sorta preaches here and there ya know and um isn't very good really uh how what might you call him? 303: a jack leg. Interviewer: okay do you use that other word for other things like when you talk about a jackleg teacher? 303: {NW} Interviewer: or jackleg governor 303: y- yeah? {D; heard} that expression. Interviewer: what about mechanic? 303: mechanic? Interviewer: uh-huh 303: well you talking about uh mechanic in a uh filling the stations? Interviewer: uh-huh would you talk about a jackleg mechanic? 303: yeah a jackleg mechanic. Interviewer: you ever heard of shade? 303: you ever heared what? Interviewer: shade tree? 303: yes ma'am shade shade tree. Interviewer: what does that mean? 303: uh exactly I couldn't tell you Interviewer: okay um what relation to my mother's sister be to me? 303: mother's sister. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: your mother's Interviewer: yeah my mother's sister 303: it's be uh aunt wouldn't it? Interviewer: what's that? 303: aunt? Interviewer: okay um did you ever hear that word said a little bit differently? did you ever hear aunt? 303: aunt. Interviewer: who says it that way ? {NS} auntie. 303: {X} Interviewer: is that how you call your aunt? 303: my aunt your aunt {X} wherever it may be. {NS} Interviewer: do you have any aunts? 303: mm no I don't have no aunts living. Interviewer: when they were living what what did you call them? 303: {NS} I called aunt {D: nanny}. Interviewer: mm-hmm okay now the name of the wife of Abraham. 303: hmm I know it but I can't I can't think {NW} say what it is Interviewer: #1 but I # 303: #2 yeah # {D: I hear it called} but I I can't call it in my mind now. Interviewer: um Sally is a nickname for 303: for Interviewer: starts with an S Sa- 303: {X} Interviewer: what's that? 303: uh Interviewer: Sarah or 303: Sarah Interviewer: have you heard that name? 303: I've heard it yes I've Interviewer: okay what what was that again? 303: Sarah Interviewer: okay um {NS} okay if um the name Bill is short for 303: for a man Interviewer: yeah it's short for what what the full name? Will 303: Will Interviewer: okay Will is short for what? What would be the person's full name? not Will but 303: {NW} Will Bill uh {NS} Interviewer: what about Will William? 303: Will William? Interviewer: what about William did 303: {NW} uh well I now that'd be Will William. Interviewer: okay um if your father had a brother named William you'd call him 303: uncle William Interviewer: okay and um the last book in the of the four gospels it goes Matthew Mark Luke and 303: John? Interviewer: okay and if your father had a brother by that name you'd call him {NS} 303: uncle John. Interviewer: okay and the highest rank in the army is 303: lieutenant Interviewer: mm-kay higher than that. 303: general. Interviewer: okay um and person who introduced Kentucky fried chicken. 303: introduced it. Interviewer: yeah somebody Sanders cor- 303: wasn't it {D: mindy pearl}? Interviewer: no you're thinking of someone someone else a man {NS} what's another title in the army? you could have general or 303: {NS} {D: sergeant} Interviewer: okay what else? 303: um Interviewer: #1 what about cor- # 303: #2 lieu- # huh? Interviewer: cor- 303: colonel. Interviewer: okay and um the man in charge of a ship is called 303: {NW} is called charge of what? Interviewer: a ship 303: uh I couldn't tell you. Interviewer: what about cap- 303: oh Interviewer: cap- 303: #1 cap- # Interviewer: #2 cap- # 303: captain? Interviewer: okay uh did you ever hear that word did you ever hear that word used to white people? 303: used used for white people. Interviewer: yeah 303: yes I've heard it Interviewer: who who would say that if I heard that lingo? 303: well uh like some people move into town and they say that's some white people moved in town today. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: a neighbor a new neighbor Interviewer: okay I'm talking about the word captain though. 303: huh? Interviewer: I'm talking about the word captain 303: captain. Interviewer: captain 303: #1 captain # Interviewer: #2 cap # 303: captain uh uh I can't think that far. Interviewer: okay um the man who presides over the county court is called a {NS} 303: th- the mayor Interviewer: okay or um okay but the one who's over the court would be the county 303: judge. Interviewer: okay and someone who goes to school is called a {NS} 303: someone who goes to school is called what? Interviewer: is called what yeah 303: a schoolgirl a schoolboy. Interviewer: okay what about say if you go to college then you'd call it a college 303: {NS} uh that's a little Interviewer: a college stu- 303: student. Interviewer: okay um and a woman who works in in an office and takes care of the male and does the typing and so forth is called a 303: uh uh I know it I know it but I can't speak it. Interviewer: yeah you know you might see her sitting in a desk in the office and 303: she's the office girl. Interviewer: okay or the sec- sec- 303: uh the secretary. Interviewer: okay and a man on a stage would be an actor a woman would be an what? {NS} 303: she would be uh {D: have to pull that out} I can't. Interviewer: okay a man would be an actor. a woman would be a 303: a {D: servant} Interviewer: okay or an act- 303: oh actress. Interviewer: okay um if you're born in the United States then you're a what? 303: um American. Interviewer: okay um okay and um okay we talked earlier about words for colored people words for white people you know words for 303: mm-hmm Interviewer: like um okay can can you tell me what words you have like according to how dark or how light your skin is? 303: #1 well # Interviewer: #2 and # words that you don't like or words that are just joking so forth 303: well it's uh black. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: uh or yellow Interviewer: what's yellow? 303: uh {X} uh he's black. {NS} Interviewer: what's yellow? 303: what's yellow? Interviewer: uh-huh you used that word talking about colored people. 303: {X} {NS} {NW} {X} {D: Atlanta} Interviewer: uh-huh 303: that's uh a girl {D: a yelling} she's a girl you can't {D: put her out there and dress her up} you can't stand and tell whether she white or black or brown skin or or yellow. Interviewer: uh-huh okay um you use the word dark before what does that mean? is that an old-fashioned word or? 303: yeah yea- yeah that's a an old-fashioned word uh dark or uh colored people. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: uh black people. Interviewer: uh-huh do you like that word black? 303: yeah I like it. {NW} {D: try it and you're going} Interviewer: uh-huh 303: black but uh some use why of course there ain't no color red red people that's a red indian. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: alright now the dark the creek indian {NS} is a dark indian and the creek indian and there's another there's white indian. Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 303: #2 and the red indian # {D: you got the priest high and looked at my life all heart of it} Interviewer: oh yeah they are beautiful. 303: and the black indian {D: puts his arm and little kin up} the black indian. the dark indian. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: and uh but they ain't much different uh they both they're all indian Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: but just different types of indians. Interviewer: yeah what words do you have for types of white people? 303: what word? Interviewer: mm-hmm like white people that okay mentioned already peckerwood is an insulting word to use. what other words did colored people use for white people? 303: they use uh {D: aunt} and and mister and {D: aunt and other aunt} uh in old times they used master. #1 master. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 303: and misses master and misses. Interviewer: uh-huh 303: they call all white people dark master old master and old misses Interviewer: mm-hmm what about words to insult white people? 303: well you'd called them a peckerwood and such. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and you'd call 'em there's another word uh poor trash. Interviewer: mm-hmm 303: and you're in something mighty quick Interviewer: yeah 303: and there's another word you can call 'em {X} {D: it be to you pretty quick} I forgot now what it is. {X} there's three three different words you can call 'em you got a fight on your hand um and uh {NS} but I can't recall it pale Interviewer: #1 what # 303: #2 pale face # Interviewer: pale face? 303: you call a white person pale face and they'll knock you down. colored people well now {D: he'll lie on side} say that and get by with it but still he don't like it because a- at least {X} the own person calls him his own color and the colored person didn't have to start it and so. {D: I never I never} did start it and I never will. Interviewer: okay um any other words for how about people who live out in the country? #1 or they live in the mountains # 303: #2 well # they call hillbillies. Interviewer: okay 303: they didn't they colored person calls him that he he won't bother no Interviewer: call him what? 303: They would call him hillbilly {D: he he regretted that} Interviewer: yeah any other words like that? 303: uh a mountain {D: hill jerk} Interviewer: {X} 303: yeah someone you don't like that too much. and he don't like it {X}