Interviewer
Alright what I need to ask you about is uh your parents' education.
Mm-hmm.
But they both graduated from high school?
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Oh.
Ah ha.
But it was affiliated with it.
Oh. That's {D: interesting} {NW}
I didn't even know Notre Dame had been around then.
Okay and what did your father do for a living?
Oh.
Ah.
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Did his father do that too? Or how did he
Eighteen O two so that means your father was born when his father was
{X}
Oh.
Oh yeah of course.
The other two had died?
Oh {NW}
I see. Yeah.
Oh. {NW}
Mm-hmm.
Uh-huh.
Alright uh did your mother work?
Okay.
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I don't guess many women did work.
Alright uh
who are
Are your friends mostly people from church
or
the colonial dames
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Of the what association?
Oh.
So most of the things you do for enjoyment are historical.
{X} things.
That's interesting. that's really nice.
Is there a national historical society as well?
Oh okay.
{NW}
And what kind of things do you do with the-
well I'm particularly interested in the hermitage one. What do you do?
Oh you do.
You hire all the people
Now when did Jackson live?
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Oh I see.
I see.
And are they all Nashville residents?
Mm-hmm.
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Well how expensive is it?
Oh I see.
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Because his wife died or
Oh oh. Ah.
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So Jackson never remarried?
I see.
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We- uh where is that I just
Mm-hmm.
Oh I've seen them.
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Right right right.
{X}
Great. Okay thanks.
Oh I- I'm sure it is.
Okay uh
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{NS}
Is that your door?
What kind of music do you like?
At all?
Not any at all.
I have never gotten that answer before.
Not even historical music huh?
Oh I see.
But what do you- you just have it then on as background then when you do.
Oh you don't even turn on the radio?
Okay that's a good honest answer.
I like that.
{NW}
Okay then we'll go from that to uh farms.
{NW}
Farms.
Well that's what we wanna find out. We wanna find out how much
people who live within cities know about farms.
Okay we- we'll see.
What do you call a big building on a farm where the grain is stored and-
stored and
I'm sorry?
Yes.
See? You know something.
How about the name of the building where corn is stored?
Okay.
How about where uh
a particular part of a building where the grain is stored?
Yeah. What- when you say that word what does that bring to mind? What does one of those look like?
In a V shape?
I don't either {X}
{NW}
Alright what do you call the uh upper part of the barn where the chickens stay?
Okay.
If uh
you gather-
Did you?
Oh but they just rented them?
So there was no work done.
Yeah.
That was my next question.
What do you call the things
you play in?
Okay.
Uh
What- have you ever heard of a
it's got four poles and it
a sliding roof and you put hay in it?
A hay barrack?
Okay.
Uh
do you know uh
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any names for small piles of hay that are kind of raked up?
Okay.
Uh
What do you call the place where you keep horses?
Uh is there a special place besides the barn? A place outside where you milk cows?
Yeah I think so.
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Okay. Uh or a cow pen?
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Does a sty have a shelter over it or is it just open?
Yeah.
When you were talking about a dairy before uh exactly
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Well now okay is it a more a type of farm or more a processing plant?
Yeah. Okay.
What do you call the place around the barn the land around the barn where all the animals
Okay.
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And what do you call the place where you let uh cows and sheep go out to graze?
Okay. Would that be fenced in or would it
It would be.
Okay.
Uh do you know anything about raising cotton?
Okay.
What do you call uh grass that grows up in a cotton field when you don't want it there?
Okay. {C: whispering}
Alright I've just said this but uh cotton and corn grow in a
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Okay. Now what's the difference between a field and a patch?
Okay. That's all I wanted to know.
And what kinds of things would you say are grown in a patch besides tobacco?
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You just call it a garden I guess.
Okay.
Uh what else is grown in a field besides
Okay.
Okay um do you have different names for different kinds of little wooden fences?
Now what does that look like?
Okay.
Yeah.
the kind that zig zags?
Okay.
Yeah.
Uh have you ever heard of a paling fence or
What is that?
Like a
{NW}
Okay.
Uh how about a slat fence?
Okay. That- I think that's just another name for
Alright What do you call the kind of fence that uh
{NW} excuse me
if you climb over it it might tear your pants off?
Alright uh
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When you set up
if you were out there setting up a barbed wire fence
uh you would dig holes where the
Mm-hmm.
Okay what might you call a fence or wall made of loose stone or rock you might remove from
Okay.
Uh
uh some farmers
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when they want to fool a hen into s-
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{NW}
Yes.
You're one of the few people who- who've known what that was.
Yes.
Have you ever seen one of them?
Are they really made out of china or
That's- that's really interesting.
Do you know why it works?
Maybe it gives 'em the idea to
{NW}
{NW}
{NW}
That's funny.
Alright what do you use to carry water in?
Alright now when you say bucket is that
do you think of something wooden or metal?
Pail would be
Wooden and bucket would be?
Okay.
Um.
Okay.
{NS}
Uh what would you call a container that you'd use to carry food to the pigs?
You ever heard of a slop bucket?
Alright What do you call the thing that you fry eggs in?
Alright. What's it made out of?
Okay. {C: very softly}
Um did you ever have one with legs?
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And how big is it?
Oh they used coals instead of
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{X}
Alright.
Would you call- ever call it anything else?
Alright.
What do you call the long container that you use to put cut flowers in?
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Okay.
What are the uh eating utensils that you set out at the table?
The the ones that the utensils that you actually
And?
Okay.
If the dishes are all dirty you might say
oh it's almost supper time and before we can have supper we have to have some clean dishes.
I must
Okay.
And after you wash the dishes then you
uh but sometimes before that you have to
Right. Okay.
And what do you call the uh
cloth or rag that you might use to wash 'em off
But to wash them with too?
Okay.
And a dish towel is to dry 'em?
Alright and what you call a s-
Okay now which would you more readily say? Do you know?
Alright and how about the one you use for your face? Which would you say?
Okay you'd have said say wash- wash rag back then?
Okay.
{NW}
Alright uh
people used to buy flour in a
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Alright uh what did molasses come in when you used to buy it in fairly large quantities?
Alright uh did you call it a stand?
Uh
{NW}
What's one of these things that we have uh a big container and you want to pour something into small container
Right.
{NS}
What do you use to urge your horses to go faster when you're
Alright.
If you bought fruit at the store the grocer might put them in a
Okay what kind a' bag?
Alright. {C: very softly}
Um how
how uh let's say
fifty years ago how was a fairly large quantity of sugar packaged?
Okay and how about flour?
What do you call the bag or sack that potatoes are shipped in?
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Mm-hmm. Any other names?
Okay how about feed seed uh
And manure too?
I bu- I wouldn't know about manure.
{NW}
Fertilizer.
Yeah I think it is.
Alright what would you call
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Okay uh
have you ever heard of a turn of corn?
Okay. Any names for the amount of wood you might carry?
Okay.
And how much is a rick of wood?
Just an armful?
Oh
Is that like the hay you were talking about before?
Uh-huh.
Can I give you some
choices? Would it be a coil?
Shock?
doodle?
Those are some words we've gotten.
A tumble?
{NW}
Okay.
Okay.
Oh I see.
Oh okay.
{NW}
Ah well I hope you do cuz
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Alright when an electric lamp burns out you have to put in a new
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Okay.
Will you say the whole name again?
Thanks.
Alright uh
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what do you turn on
when you want some water from the kitchen sink?
Alright would you use a different word if it were outside on a pump?
Or something?
Alright is that what you would call it outside?
Is there a difference?
Okay.
Alright you might say it was so cold last night that our water pipes
Okay.
When you carry the washing out to hang it up on the line you carry it out in a
Uh what do nails come in?
It's like a barrel but it's smaller.
Mm begins with K?
Yeah.
Alright what runs around the barrel to hold the wood the staves in place?
Or another way to put it- just a minute
{NS}
Another way to put it would be uh
the skirts that women used to wear before the civil war {X}
Okay.
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top of a bottle once you've opened it?
Okay.
Uh
What's the musical instrument that children play or sometimes bluegrass uh musicians play? It's like this
Alright. Are they both the same instrument?
Okay.
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Uh what do you pound nails with?
If you have a wagon and two horses
you gotta remember back a long time
What do you call the long piece of wood that goes between the horses?
Well I'll ask you. Have you heard of a tongue?
Is that what you call it? Okay.
Now uh
Say you have one horse pulling your buggy and before you hitch him up to it you have to back him in
between
{NW}
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Well this is remembering back a long
You did it yourself?
Would you call it a shaft?
Okay. Okay.
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Alright.
Hmm.
When a horse is hitched to a wagon what do you call the bar of wood that the traces are fastened to?
{NS}
Uh-huh.
Now if you have two horses
and each one has a singletree what's that called?
Have you heard of a doubletree?
Or would you call it a double singletree?
Okay.
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If a man had a load of wood in his wagon and he was driving along you would say he's doing what?
With the wood?
Alright let me phrase it another way and see if this
What would you say somebody is doing when he's filling up his wagon at the wood lot and taking it to his house
unloading it and then going back and filling it up again?
Alright would you say he was hauling wood?
Will you say that
Alright uh
suppose there was a log across the road and you needed to get it out of the way. You might say
I tied a rope to it and
Alright another word
Another word?
Okay.
Thank you. And if you've done it many times you say we have?
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Same word.
I have too.
I don't think so.
Alright.
Uh what do you
what do you break the ground with in the spring?
Alright can you
can you tell me about some different kinds of plows that you might remember?
hand drawn or do horses draw them?
Oh o- okay.
Alright uh after you've plowed
what do you use to break the ground up even finer?
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Okay.
What do you call the think that goes across that uh the wheels of the vehicle fit onto it?
{NW} Well
I have several words here.
Um well I'll just ask you. Would you call it a saw buck?
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Or a saw horse?
Alright.
How about the ones that are shaped like A
that you might put a piece of wood across the top to make a table for church supper or something like that?
Is that the same?
Okay.
Uh
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When you're taking care of your hair you use a comb and a
Alright.
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Do you know what uh a revolver the thing that holds the bullets
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Alright um another way this word is used is uh
some kinds of pens
you put a {X}
It's like an ink pen but it's not a fountain pen. You put the the thing of ink inside the pen.
Okay uh cartridge?
{X}
Okay.
What do you call uh
in a children's playground
a piece of wood on one of those A frame things that goes back and forth. Up and down.
Okay.
Uh if you saw some children on this thing you'd say they are
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Okay.
Alright there's a
sorta like a home made merry go round. Uh it's a plank like on a see saw
but instead of going up and down. It goes around and around in a circle.
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And is that what that is?
Okay. Well flying dutchman?
Okay.
{NS}
What do you call the uh
oh say y- you tie a long rope to a branch and you {X}
Okay. {C: whispering}
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I see.
And then you put it from the hot into
Alright and did you ever call it a coal scuttle?
Is that the same thing as a hot
I see.
Okay. No no.
{X}
Okay.
Alright I {X}
Are they?
Well cuz no one uses them anymore
Do you still have one?
{NW}
What do you call a small
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It's got a little wheel in front and two handles.
Okay.
What do you sharpen a scythe on?
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What kind of stone?
Mm-hmm.
That's what I have.
Okay.
Uh if something is {X}
Oh.
But a grindstone {X}
Okay.
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Uh
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What do you call the thing that you drive?
Okay. {C: whispering}
If something in your car is squeaking to lubricate it you have to put not oil but
Well it's a synonym for oil.
You cook with it.
Bacon
And if grease got all over your hands then you'd say my hands were all
Okay.
Uh if you had
something in your car that was squeaking yesterday you might- you might say
I went out and I
Okay. Thank you.
Alright and what is the other
I already mentioned it but the other stuff besides grease?
That you lubricate with?
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Alright s-
Coal oil?
Yeah.
Is coal oil the same thing as kerosene?
What might you call a makeshift lamp
made with a rag, a bottle, and some kerosene?
Have you ever seen one of those?
Betty like the
Oh.
Well now this makeshift lamp
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Right. {X}
flambeaus?
Okay.
Uh inside the ca- the tire of a car is the inner
If they have just built a boat and are going to put it in the water
you say they're going
Say it again?
Thank you.
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Uh what kind of boat would you go fishing in on a small lake?
What's the difference?
Is it
does it have a rounded or a flat
And uh is the front of it pointed or {X}
Okay.
Uh
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If a woman wants to buy a dress in a certain color
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If she sees a dress that she likes very much and it's very becoming she says that's a very
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Well the word is really common. It's used to describe
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Pretty.
{X} ask it very well.
Alright supposing you say uh
uh
my dress is pretty but I think Susie's is even
Okay.
What might you wear over your dress to protect it in the kitchen?
Uh you write with a
Okay uh when you fasten your baby's diapers you use a
Okay.
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Uh
Wh- when you buy soup it usually comes in a
What kind of can?
Okay.
And
how many cents is a dime worth?
Okay.
Uh let's see.
When you pu- what do you put on when you go outside in the winter time?
Okay and you might say that coat has fancy buttons.
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well it's important what I was trying to get you to say fancy buttons on it.
Alright uh when men get especially dressed up they wear between their shirt and their coat they wear a
{C: tape noise}
Mm-hmm.
Uh a suit consists of a coat, a vest, and
Alright.
Do you use the words interchangeably?
Okay.
Uh are there any other names for the
the {X}
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Okay.
You might say uh this coat doesn't fit this year. But last year it
Alright but without using did.
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Without using did. Say last year it
Okay.
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Uh
if your old suit wore- wore out you'd have to buy a
A new?
Yeah that's right just say
{X}
Thank you.
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If uh it- uh if you stuff a lot of thing in your pockets it makes them
When you
wash- let's say
you might say this shirt isn't
{D: santerized}.
I hope it doesn't
The one I washed yesterday
No we {X}
Not did. The one I washed yesterday
Okay.
Lately it seems that every one I have washed has
Okay.
Okay.
When a girl goes out to a party when getting ready you say she likes to
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How about this way. If a girl likes to put on her mother's clothes she likes to
Uh what do you call a small leather contai- container with a clasp on it that women carry money in?
Alright. How about something small you might take to church just to carry coins?
Okay.
Now if you had something to carry your money in that goes inside your pocketbook or inside your purse what would that be called?
{X}
Would you ever call it a bill fold?
Okay.
What do you call the piece of jewelry that a woman wears around her
What do you call uh
what you have around your neck?
Alright supposing it were beads. You'd say it's a
A something of beads.
Or something of pearls.
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Alright would y- have you ever heard this expression a pair of beads?
Alright or string?
Okay.
What do men wear to hold up their trousers here
Mm.
Alright. Have you ever heard of galluses?
Alright uh who says galluses?
Have any idea? {C: very softly}
Do they?
What do you hold over you when it rains?
What is the last thing you put on the bed when you make it?
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Thing that goes on top.
Alright.
What do you put at the head of the bed that
Alright.
Uh
D- uh do you remember ever using anything if you had a double bed
this would be like a really long pillow.
Mm-hmm.
Now you might say that bolster didn't go partway across the bed. It went
Okay.
{NS}
What did you put on a bed for warmth?
How about the one that ladies get together and make?
Okay. Is there a difference between a comforter and a blanket?
Ah.
And how is it different from a quilt?
Okay.
What do you call a makeshift sleeping place down on the floor that children especially like to sleep {X}?
Okay.
And what was that
What would you make one of those out of?
And is that what people did when they had a lot a' company?
Okay.
Uh wh- when you're soil is very very good for growing you say it's very
Alright. Give me another word?
It- uh would
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oh it can be- it can
be applied to anything that reproduces.
Well alright uh manure is used.
{X}
{X}
I don't wanna say it for you.
Uh
I'll spell it. F-E-R-T-I-L-E.
Yes. Okay.
What is the land called
It's low land. It goes along the stream and it's uh
overflowed if the stream rises and overflows it
in the spring then it goes back down and you plow it and it's real rich.
Uh-huh.
What's a word for low lying grass land?
Okay. How about for a field that might be good for nothing other than raising grass, clover {C: pronunciation}
clover or alfalfa?
Okay. You- you may not have names for it cuz you're not a
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Okay what about the land that uh
{NS}
has water standing in it
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for a good part of the time?
It's the Okefenokee
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How about the place where salt hay grows along the sea?
Marshes?
Okay.
What is a
Alright some people say that this is very poor and sandy soil. Other people say it's good soil but it's
the same word.
And usually when I think of it I think of soil that's part sand and part clay and not very good for growing anything.
Would you call it- have you ever heard of loam?
Okay.
Um
if they're getting water off the marshes you say they are
doing what to the land?
What would you call a deep narrow valley that's cut by a stream of water
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Well {X} but this is- this is
long.
A stream, kinda.
Oh it doesn't?
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
I'll remember that.
{X} It's probably true.
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If there's been a heavy rainfall
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Alright would you call it a gully?
Alright what- what is your first- the first word that comes to your mind for a small stream of water?
Okay.
Is there anything smaller than a creek?
Anything smaller than a brook?
Or is a stream bigger?
well you said stream so between a stream and a river in size?
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So it goes river creek stream brook?
That's what I'm doing. I'm going from
big to small.
River is the biggest
The creek? Or {X}
Okay. Then stream
{NW} I just wanted to {X}
If you have- say you have two streams that come together and make a third big one
what do you call those two?
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In relation to the big one I guess.
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Alright the two- but the two smaller ones are called what of the big one?
Mm-hmm.
Would you call 'em forks too?
Alright what do you call a very small rise in the land?
Is there anything smaller?
Now this is the truth.
You have had less trouble coming up with these words than anybody else {X}
That's the truth.
Really.
I interviewed a nineteen year old girl yesterday
and she- maybe she's just kind of uh
not very intelligent but she just
had to sit and think on
every word
Okay y- I'm sure you will.
As far as I can tell
you're not doing badly at all
I'm just shooting these questions at you and changing the subject all the time and
I don't blame you.
And that's just how they're arranged.
Uh and I also want to ask you do you have any streams or creeks in this neighborhood?
Does it have a name?
Okay.
Are there any others that you know about that {X}
Harding road goes over it.
Okay.
Alright. I remember.
Richland?
Okay.
Uh
Alright what do you call the thing you turn to open a door?
Is there any kind of land
that's uh called
And what is that?
Are they smaller than hills generally?
Okay and how do you
What- what would be the difference to you between a knob and a knoll?
Or is there any difference?
very very large much larger than a hill?
Uh what do you call the rocky side of a mountain that just drops straight off?
Okay. {C: whispering}
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Any other words?
I mean that you would call.
So you'd- you would say be careful don't fall off the
Up in the mountains where the road goes across a low place you would call that a
Or a gap?
What do you call a place uh where boats stop
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Okay.
Uh
What do you call a kind of white hard paved road like city sidewalks?
What's it made out of?
Okay.
Uh
Any other words for concrete?
Okay fine.
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say you're not in the city but you're up
in the suburbs or in the country.
What would you call a little road that goes off the main road?
Alright.
Uh
Supposing you came to a man's farm down the main road
and you came to the turn off going down to his house.
What would you call that?
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Okay.
Or a driveway maybe?
What about uh
That other people might
share?
Okay. What if it were a big plantation with a long tree lined pathway leading up to the entrance. Would that {X}
Okay.
What do you call the thing along the side of the street that people walk on?
Okay.
If you were walking along the road and a dog jumps out at you and scares you
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Okay. What would you say you did with the stick?
Alright but what would you say you did with it?
Yesterday say.
Okay.
{NW}
If you go to somebody's house and he is not there
the person
who answers the door says I'm sorry. He's not
Okay.
Uh how about if they were going to use the word h- home how would they say
Okay.
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Now then if you're uh
having coffee
uh
would you
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D- do you have any special names for
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How- well how would you say
Okay.
Have you ever heard of bare footed coffee?
I think that's cute.
I drink it
Alright.
Uh
If you
don't- if you don't have uh milk in your tea you say I drink it
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Alright if someone is not going away from you you say he's coming straight
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If you saw someone you haven't seen for quite a while you might say
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Oh no I'm sorry. If you saw him and you're telling me about it
You'd say well just this morning I
Alright well the other person we commenting is Ms. Cornelius
so supposing you
saw her this morning. You hadn't seen her for a long time you might say to me well just this morning I
ran
Okay.
If a child is given the same name that his father has
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Or
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Right.
{NS}
Uh what do you call the kind of animal that barks?
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You wanted your d- if you had your dog trained to attack somebody else what might you say to it to make 'em do it? {C: distorted pitch}
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Do you know what it calls?{C: distorted pitch}
Alright.{C: distorted pitch}
What would you call a mixed breed dog?{C: distorted pitch}
Okay.{C: distorted pitch}
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