364:  Yeah that means that I didn't understand.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NW} {NS} If a man has plenty of money, he doesn't have anything to worry about but life's hard on a man who's? {NS}
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  If you don't have plenty of money what are you?
364:  Poor. #1 Poor. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
364:  I I got that one. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # {NW} If you have a lot of peach trees you have a what?
364:  A orchard.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh if you're if you're poor but next door the fa- the little boy has money, what do you say about him?
364:  I'd say oh he's wealthy dude.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh inside a cherry what's the part that you don't eat called?
364:  The pit.
Interviewer:  Uh how about inside a peach?
364:  Its also a we'd call it the peach seed.
Interviewer:  Alright. What kind of peach is it that you have to cut the seed out of? That you have to cut it out of that it doesn't just pull apart.
364:  Oh. We call that plum peach.
Interviewer:  Alright and then the kind that pulls apart is called?
364:  Freestone.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. What do you call the part of the apple that you throw away?
364:  Core.
Interviewer:  Uh when you cut up apples or peaches and dry them what are you making?
364:  Why would you we'd call 'em we just called 'em dried apples #1 or dried #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. #
364:  peaches.
Interviewer:  Did you ever her- hear the term snit? S-N-I-T-S? For dried fruit?
364:  No.
Interviewer:  I didn't #1 either. #
364:  #2 I think. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
364:  #2 # Oh. #1 We #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-kay. #
364:  we don't use that #1 frequently around here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Common? # We we do either. Uh the kind of nut that you pull up out of the ground and roast?
364:  That's peanuts.
Interviewer:  What other names for 'em do you know?
364:  Goobers.
Interviewer:  Okay. {C: laughing}
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What other kind of nuts do you have that grow locally?
364:  What other kind?
Interviewer:  Yes sir.
364:  We have uh pecans. And uh Scaly bark.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  Walnuts.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  I reckon that's all about all I think edible nuts we have.
Interviewer:  Okay what do you call the hard covering of a walnut? The hard covering of a walnut? That you break away and it leaves stain on your hands #1 sometimes. #
364:  #2 Uh. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
364:  #2 # Uh. {NS} {NW} We usually call 'em the hull.
Interviewer:  Okay. Is that different from the shell now? #1 The hull's the #
364:  #2 Wh- #
Interviewer:  #1 out #
364:  #2 The # hull is different from the shell. Now the hull is a is a the hull the hull more of that is covered with the hull the shell. But uh. All of them got away from it.
364:  The hull is a i-it covers the whole thing.
Interviewer:  That's the outside part?
364:  Outside. Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  Now what what
Interviewer:  #1 The shell? #
364:  #2 wo- # Shell. The shell is it actually its dried and break it.
Interviewer:  Okay its inside the hull?
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  The shell's inside the hull.
Interviewer:  Uh do you know a kind of nut that grows down south and its long and its flat-shaped something like your eye, shaped kinda like your eye. It has a thin shell and it has little porous holes in the shell on it.
364:  {NW} {NS}
Interviewer:  We don't grow 'em right here but way #1 down south #
364:  #2 Yeah? #
Interviewer:  I think they do. Do you know of an almond?
364:  Almond? That's what I was trying to think of the name of it.
Interviewer:  You think that's #1 what they're describing I? #
364:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
364:  #2 #
Interviewer:  Its not a pecan is it?
364:  No its #1 not a pecan its flat 
probably not #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: Because of the porous shells but not} #
364:  #1 It's #
Interviewer:  #2 probably not #
364:  flat. and uh its been a long time I yeah I've seen them every usually Christmas time. Almonds. And there's another nut that grows we we have I can't remember what it is. We we used to call peach seed almonds they {D: s-seed innards} uh so they got a taste of a peach seed. Have you ever eaten a #1 peach? #
Interviewer:  #2 No sir. # Uh-uh.
364:  You've never tasted peach seed?
Interviewer:  Uh-uh. {NW}
364:  We used to call 'em peach seed almonds. {NS}
Interviewer:  {D: I don't know if that can work.} Okay a kind of fruit about as big as an apple but with a thick skin like a lemon?
364:  Like a grow like an apple?
Interviewer:  #1 Its #
364:  #2 Orange? #
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
364:  #2 But #
Interviewer:  And you'd if you one day you go out to get one and there aren't any left you'd say the oranges are?
364:  Gone.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh a little red vegetable that grows under the ground and its peppery tasting hot tasting?
364:  Grows under the ground?
Interviewer:  The I think the ve- the part that you eat grows under the ground.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Its a little root vegetable and its red and you eat it raw.
364:  Oh that's uh Radish.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh then uh the round the kind of red vegetables that you grow and you slice 'em up and eat 'em on lettuce? Or you make ketchup out of 'em?
364:  Oh that's tomatoes.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh along with your meat you might have a baked what?
364:  Potato.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh now what kind are you talking about when you talk about a potato, do you mean the the a white potato like you eat or what kinds of potatoes are you talking about?
364:  I'm talking about a sweet potato.
Interviewer:  Oh well that's the kind you like.
364:  Mm-hmm. #1 Sweet potato. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
364:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # What do we call commonly call just white baking potatoes or?
364:  Irish potato.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh do you know the uh the word yam is that the same thing as a sweet potato? #1 A yam. #
364:  #2 A what? #
Interviewer:  #1 #
364:  #2 # Yam? Yes they're same. But we don't call 'em that around
Interviewer:  #1 here #
364:  #2 No. # No we don't call 'em yams.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh a vegetable that smells strong it makes tears come to your eyes when you peel it?
364:  Onion.
Interviewer:  Okay. {C: laughing} Uh a vegetable that's uh about that long if you cut it right and its uh green and its a pod?
364:  I think that's must be a cucumber.
Interviewer:  Alright but its in a pod. It has seeds in it not a cucumber you you can cut it up and fry it or you can boil it and eat it whole and its slimy when you boil it.
364:  Its a vegetable? Mm.
Interviewer:  I love it fried, but I don't like it boiled cause its slimy.
364:  Oh that's okra.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
364:  Okra. {NW}
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh # if you leave an apple or a plum around it'll dry up and then what does it do?
364:  Shrivel.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh the kind of cabbages that come in large leafy heads if you have some very large ones you might say those?
364:  Collards.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Uh when you wanna get beans out of the pod by hand what would you have to do with 'em?
364:  Shell 'em.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh {NS} they're kind of large flat beans that you don't eat in the pod you shell 'em?
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  They
364:  That's a butter bean.
Interviewer:  Alright. Any other names for a butter bean?
364:  {NW} Lima bean.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Does it make a difference what size and what color they are?
364:  Uh we we have different sizes. Baby limas or or well I just call 'em big butter beans.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  How about the kind of beans that you eat pod and all and you break 'em up to eat 'em?
364:  That's string beans. {NS}
Interviewer:  Are they the same?
364:  Snap beans.
Interviewer:  Alright. {NW} Uh let me see what do you call when you buy lettuce what do you call what you buy it in?
364:  Lettuce?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. You buy a a what you don't buy it by the leaf what do you buy it by?
364:  The head.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh if you have two boys and three girls you have five children but do you ever speak of 'em jokingly as so many head of children?
364:  {NW} I don't.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  You'd talk about head when you talk about?
364:  Cattle or
Interviewer:  Cattle okay. {NW} If you if somebody had seven boys and seven girls you might say he had a something of children?
364:  {NW} I I don't know seven and seven that'd be fourteen wouldn't it?
Interviewer:  When you're talking about him you'd say man he's got a?
364:  Uh. I don't know what I I've got so many terms I don't which what term I'd use. {NW}
Interviewer:  Do you know of the term passel?
364:  #1 Got a #
Interviewer:  #2 Got a # passel of kids?
364:  Passel I'll rarely
Interviewer:  #1 Alright. #
364:  #2 rarely # use it.
Interviewer:  Okay. {C: laughing}
364:  I don't I don't I don't know what if I've ever used it.
Interviewer:  But it means a lot, doesn't it?
364:  #1 Lot, yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
364:  Passel #1 Uh #
Interviewer:  #2 What #
364:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # the outside of an ear of corn called?
364:  Shuck.
Interviewer:  Alright. What's the kind of corn you eat on the cob called?
364:  Uh roasting it.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Do you know the uh term mutton corn?
364:  Mutton?
Interviewer:  No. Mutton corn. They say its uh uh about the same as roasting ears but I.
364:  Mutton corn?
Interviewer:  #1 Yes. #
364:  #2 Well # I don't think I've ever heard of mutton corn.
Interviewer:  Okay. {C: laughing} What do you call the top of the corn stalk?
364:  Tassel.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And the stringy stuff that comes out with the shucks?
364:  That's the silks.
Interviewer:  Alright. A large round orange fruit that grows in the ground that you make pie out of at Thanksgiving?
364:  That's old pumpkin.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. A kind of small yellow crooked-necked vegetable? Small and its yellow and its kind of grows kind of crooked neck?
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Talk about a squash for the last thing wasn't it?
364:  #1 I think so. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh # What kinds of melons do you raise? Around here?
364:  Watermelon.
Interviewer:  And the kind that's yellow has yellow meat?
364:  Cantaloupes.
Interviewer:  Okay. Do you know a-another name for cantaloupe?
364:  Mushmelon.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh what are these little things that spring up in the woods sometimes after its damp and they're round uh shaped, look like a little umbrella?
364:  {NW} That's uh mushroom.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay but do you know a name that children call 'em?
364:  Frog stools.
Interviewer:  Okay.
Interviewer:  If a man has a sore throat and the inside of his throat's all red and swollen you'd say he couldn't eat that piece of meat because he couldn't?
364:  Swallow.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh you're smoking a pipe what else do people smoke?
364:  Cigarettes and cigars.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NW} You say if somebody offers to do you a favor and you say I appreciate it but I don't wanna be? Somebody offers to do a favor for you and you say well now I appreciate it but I just don't want to be?
364:  {NW} I would say bothered uh.
Interviewer:  Alright how about obligated? Don't wanna be obligated to you do you use that?
364:  That'll that'll be a good word #1 to use. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
364:  Obligated.
Interviewer:  Do you hear anybody for for obligated saying beholding? Don't wanna be beholding?
364:  Yeah I've used that I've used that expression.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay do you think we'd use that now or is that an old word? Like?
364:  Well that's an old word.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. {NW} Somebody asks you about doing a certain job and you say sure I? If they'll say do you know how to do or can you do a certain thing and you'd say sure I?
364:  Sure I sure I can.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Or I will.
Interviewer:  Alright and if you if you not able to do something you'd say I'd like to but I?
364:  I just don't have time.
Interviewer:  #1 Alright. #
364:  #2 Or. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
364:  #2 #
Interviewer:  Uh if you either can or you?
364:  Can't.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh you're talking about the fact that so few of your old friends are still alive you might say I've spent all week looking for my high school classmates and it seems they're?
364:  Difficult.
Interviewer:  Uh how about if they've already died? What would how would you say it? A lot of your old friends have already died how would you say that?
364:  Oh I would say that uh I'd just use it flatly he's dead.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh would you you wouldn't say he's passed on? #1 Or that okay. #
364:  #2 No, no. # I don't, I'd just say dead, #1 I'd #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. #
364:  that uh passed is a
Interviewer:  That's a #1 nice #
364:  #2 phrase I don't # I {NW} don't I just don't don't I don't use.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  Instead of. {NW}
Interviewer:  But you know I think funeral directors or something thinks that makes us feel better
364:  #1 that yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 and they #
364:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. #
364:  You soften it down.
Interviewer:  Right.
364:  Soften words down. Uh like I used to my mother used to make me bathe, take a bath you know? And uh she didn't use the term take a bath you go and wash.
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  Wash yourself.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  Clean you know?
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  {NW} But now that they use different oh soften it you know?
Interviewer:  That's right.
364:  Make it easy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
364:  #1 Like uh #
Interviewer:  #2 Like #
364:  old-fashioned consumption. People used to when well my father he died he died of consumption. But since then and now its TB. {C:Tuberculosis}
Interviewer:  Oh.
364:  Soften it you know?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
364:  Don't want that word consumption. {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Alright instead of saying uh that woman sure is fat you'd say well she's put on a little hasn't she? #1 Or she's #
Auxiliary:  #2 Oh yeah. #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 Yeah yeah. #
Interviewer:  She's {D: favorably} #1 plump or #
364:  #2 Oh #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 And and uh # it don't don't use the word she's fat.
Interviewer:  No.
364:  No she's uh what's the what did you just call it? Stout.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  She's stout.
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Do you say if the boy got a whipping you'd say I bet he got that whipping because he did something he?
364:  Shouldn't have done.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh do you use the the form or the the word ought not have done? Or oughtn't have done? For shouldn't have.
364:  Shouldn't have done.
Interviewer:  #1 Alright. #
364:  #2 I #
Interviewer:  You don't use ought? Ought not have? Instead of shouldn't?
364:  No I I I don't remember if #1 I don't think I use that. #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. # Um. When you get something done that was hard work all by yourself and your friend will stand around without helping you, you might turn to him and say will you?
364:  Well it it sort of depends on whether I was scared of him #1 or not. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
364:  {NW} Well if I'm not scared of him I'll tell him what I think about it.
Interviewer:  You'd say well you might've helped me?
364:  Yeah. You should've helped.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh what kind of bird is it that you that can see in the dark?
364:  {D: Staying awake.}
Interviewer:  A bird that can see in the dark?
364:  Bat.
Interviewer:  A bat. #1 Not uh #
364:  #2 Bat. #
Interviewer:  well another kind around here that can see in the dark. A big old bird that hoots?
364:  Oh an owl?
Interviewer:  Alright do you call uh is there a difference in a screech owl and an owl?
364:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Are they different sizes or #1 forms? #
364:  #2 Different size # size and different species I I th- I reckon.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
364:  Must be. A screech owl is a little {D: bigger owl}. He's small.
Interviewer:  And he doesn't hoot he sort of screams?
364:  Yeah. But uh uh the old big hooting owls we'd call they they great great big things.
Interviewer:  I heard one the other night down at my new house is out out of town a a ways and uh this thing was just screaming #1 during the night and it #
Auxiliary:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  scared me it sounded like a a person #1 screaming. #
364:  #2 Yeah. #
Auxiliary:  It's children?
364:  Well there's an old
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  Uh saying superstition about a screech owl. Old folks used to say a thing one come near the house and moan and do that little moaning they say that, we'd go oh we're gonna have a death.
Interviewer:  #1 Oh is? #
364:  #2 It # that's a sign of death.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  {NW} Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh how about a kind of bird that drills holes in trees?
364:  Peckerwood.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NW} Uh have you ever heard of call a people peckerwoods? Everybody heard anybody call a person a peckerwood? What old peckerwood did?
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  Wood woodchuck or wood?
Interviewer:  Well now I've I've heard somebody maybe talk about a person and they'd call a person a peckerwood.
364:  Oh yeah. Yeah. Peckerwood.
Interviewer:  #1 Or a child #
364:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  maybe? #1 That little peckerwood that #
364:  #2 Yeah. Peckerwood. #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Uh what's a kind of black wild animal with a powerful smell?
364:  Oh polecat #1 I passed #
Interviewer:  #2 Oh. #
364:  #1 one this morning. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
364:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # Alright and other names for a polecat?
364:  Skunk.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh what kind of animals come and raid hen roosts?
364:  Animal?
Interviewer:  That might raid your hen nest? Or hen roost?
364:  That'd be a possum.
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh how about a name that takes care of all kind of animals like that like well you'd call rats and mice and bedbugs and all kind of animals or insects that you don't like maybe? In one name do you know what a group name for those?
364:  {NW} I'd call 'em pests.
Interviewer:  Pests? How about varmints?
364:  Varmint? Well I've seen it that a varmint is a you you spoke about uh bedbugs?
Interviewer:  Alright. You wouldn't call insects varmints?
364:  No.
Interviewer:  I see.
364:  I wouldn't call but a varmint we uh I tell if a varmint is a su- such as a polecat. Raccoon and stuff like that. Uh. Fox.
Interviewer:  Animals.
364:  Animals. #1 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 I see. #
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh a bushy tailed animal in the treetops what are those?
364:  That's a squirrel.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um. Have you ever heard of a squirrel called a boomer?
364:  No?
Interviewer:  You ever heard of a mountain boomer?
364:  No I don't I don't know #1 what. #
Interviewer:  #2 Well # they say this says that some some squirrels some people call squirrels mountain boomers now we don't that's not a term we #1 use here is it? #
364:  #2 No no. # I never heard of it #1 I don't #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-kay. #
364:  don't remember.
Interviewer:  What color are are most of the squirrels around here?
364:  Gray.
Interviewer:  Is there another color?
364:  Yeah there's uh. Brown.
Interviewer:  Do you call him different maybe by a different name?
364:  Yeah he'd be a fox squirrel.
Interviewer:  Alright. What's the difference in them?
364:  Well a fox squirrel is much larger. And he is brown.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  But our little our {D: common} squirrels are gray squirrels.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh its a little animal something like a squirrel but it doesn't climb trees?
364:  {NW} #1 That would #
Interviewer:  #2 Cute little animal I think. # They don't run they just scurry across the.
Auxiliary:  Yes.
364:  Yeah we #1 call 'em #
Auxiliary:  #2 {NW} #
364:  we call 'em ground #1 squirrels #
Auxiliary:  #2 Ground squirrels. #
Interviewer:  Alright is #1 that the same? #
364:  #2 But uh # the name for 'em is uh.
Auxiliary:  Chipmunk.
364:  #1 Chipmunk. #
Interviewer:  #2 Ah its a chipmunk. #
364:  Chipmunk.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} What kind of fish can you get around here?
364:  Catfish. Bass. Uh perch.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
364:  And suckers. Oh there's so many different fish I don't can't name 'em all. {NW}
Interviewer:  What'd your wife just tell me that you ate for supper every night?
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What'd your wife just tell me you like for supper with crackers?
364:  Oysters.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 Oysters. Yeah. # We don't have 'em round #1 here. #
Interviewer:  #2 No can't #
364:  #1 No. #
Interviewer:  #2 get 'em round here and # I love 'em too.
364:  Oh yeah.
Auxiliary:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What's the uh little animal that croaks in the round the water at night? #1 Around the #
Auxiliary:  #2 Frog. #
Interviewer:  pond?
364:  Would that be a frog? #1 Bullfrog. #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. #
Auxiliary:  A bullfr- frog.
Interviewer:  Uh how about little bitty kinds of frogs? Are they different?
364:  Yeah. We have a tree frog.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  And we have a toad frog. And we have we have uh bullfrogs.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh what might you put on your hook when you go fishing?
364:  Bait.
Interviewer:  Uh if you dig it up out of the ground?
364:  Mm-hmm a worm.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Inchworm.
Interviewer:  What kind of worm?
364:  Uh red worm.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  We call 'em.
Interviewer:  Is there a name for a a bigger livelier kind of worm?
364:  Uh {NW} I don't know what they called.
Interviewer:  Is there an you do you know the term angleworm?
364:  {NW} Is that uh no I I don't know the difference between the worms.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  This now down from uh down on the river, when I was on the river they had a different worm down there I'd never s- I don't know what kind of worm that was they fish with him he was a fine fish bait. But he was a black worm. Grow about that long. And he run like a snake.
Interviewer:  Oh.
364:  And I couldn't catch him to save my life. {NW}
Interviewer:  You said when you were down on the river do you mean when you did you live somewhere else #1 {X} #
364:  #2 No I worked on the river. #
Interviewer:  I see.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What's the hard-shelled thing that pulls in its neck and its legs into its shell?
364:  That'll be a terrapin.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Or
Auxiliary:  Turtle.
364:  or a turtle either one.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh its a kind of little uh thing its got claws on it and you find it in a little a small stream and when you turn over a rock sometimes it swims away backwards?
364:  Crawfish.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh then there are small fan-tailed sea animals and they've got a shell that's real thin and its almost transparent you know it?
364:  That's uh uh {NW} #1 I can't call it a name #
Interviewer:  #2 Tell me # Alright I saw men fish for 'em with a net from the boat back in #1 Louisiana and #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  on the gulf?
364:  What is that thing?
Auxiliary:  Is it
364:  #1 Clams? #
Auxiliary:  #2 {D: shrimp?} #
364:  #1 No. #
Auxiliary:  #2 #
Interviewer:  A clam alright what do you know?
364:  Uh. There's another #1 name #
Auxiliary:  #2 Yeah. #
364:  for 'em but I #1 can't #
Auxiliary:  #2 Muscle shells. #
364:  #1 Huh? #
Auxiliary:  #2 Uh. #
364:  No no.
Interviewer:  Is it shrimp?
364:  Shrimp.
Interviewer:  Shrimp.
364:  #1 That's it. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
364:  {NW} Shrimp.
Interviewer:  Alright what's an insect that flies around a light and tries to fly onto it and when you grab it powder comes off on your hands?
364:  Candle fly.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh other names for a candle fly?
364:  {NW} {NW} I I group 'em all as candle #1 flies. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-kay do you # call 'em moths? #1 Is that the same thing as a moth? #
364:  #2 Huh? # Moth? I I wouldn't think it would be the same thing moth is uh
Auxiliary:  {X}
364:  They gets in your clothes #1 eat your #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
364:  clothes up.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Moths do. But a c-
Interviewer:  Uh what flies around with a light on its tail at night? Kind of little insect that flies around and has a light on its tail?
364:  Candle fly.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh we call those they they they flash their lights on and off in the summertime? What is that little bug that flies around in the summertime and he flashes his tail on and off?
Auxiliary:  Lightning bug.
Interviewer:  Kids like to catch 'em and put 'em in a jar?
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  That's a lightning bug.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Is that a same the same thing as a firefly?
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  Same. Some people call 'em fire flies.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. There's an insect that's long and it has a thin body. {NS} And and he has uh tiny wings two pairs of wings and sometimes people see 'em they say they're a sign that snakes are nearby? What do you call him?
364:  Now what kind of insect is that?
Interviewer:  It eats mosquitoes?
364:  Uh what?
Interviewer:  Eats it eats mosquitoes. But they haven't I see 'em flying around sometimes and people say that watch out that means there's a snake nearby.
364:  Has two sets of wings?
Interviewer:  It has two sets of wings this says. Two pairs of shiny wings.
364:  I don't know what that could be.
Interviewer:  Is that what we'd call a snake doctor?
Auxiliary:  Snake doctor. {NW}
364:  Snake doctor?
Interviewer:  Is that I didn't know it had two pairs of wings does it?
Auxiliary:  I think it do. Yeah I've seen one right out there with four just the other day.
364:  I I reckon that must be what it is.
Interviewer:  That's the same thing as a dragonfly?
364:  Yeah. Yeah I think it is. #1 It must be the same thing. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
364:  A dragonfly.
Interviewer:  What kind of stinging insects do we have around here?
364:  {NW} Wasp.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  And uh {NW}
Auxiliary:  Hornet.
364:  Hornet. Yellow jacket.
Auxiliary:  Yellow.
Interviewer:  How about the the kind that does that we that doesn't sting and he builds a a little house out of clay?
364:  We call him dirt dauber.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh things that fly around at night and bite you and sometimes they carry malaria?
364:  That's {X} mosquitoes.
Interviewer:  Alright. {NS} And then there's a #1 type #
364:  #2 I thought #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 we'd get to the mosquitoes right? #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  There's a type of insect that's red and he burrows up in your skin and itches, what's he called?
Auxiliary:  Chigger. {NW}
364:  Yeah. Chigger #1 yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. # Is that the same thing as a redbug?
364:  Redbug.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh they're insects some of 'em are green and some are brown and they hop along in the grass in the summertime? Some {X}
364:  Grasshopper.
Interviewer:  #1 Alright. #
Auxiliary:  #2 Grasshopper. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
Auxiliary:  #2 #
Interviewer:  Uh what do you call a small fish that you use for fish bait?
364:  Small fish?
Auxiliary:  Minnow.
364:  Yeah. Be a minnow.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Um the the things that gather up in the ceiling of the room and you have to get a a broom or something and knock 'em down? When you clean house?
364:  That must be a dirt dauber.
Interviewer:  Alright but this is just a oh its a thing #1 that happens #
364:  #2 Oh yeah uh # uh. Spider.
Interviewer:  Alright. What is that thing called that he weaves?
364:  Web.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh what do you call the part of a tree that grows underneath the ground?
364:  Call that the root.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Do you know any kinds of roots that around here that are used for medicine?
364:  Oh yes. Uh we have well we have sassafras it's used sassafras roots. And uh there's another root that we uh is a good medicine hackberry root. And all its all of 'em's good for something but those are two roots that I know that's good for different things.
Interviewer:  Okay. What kind of tree do you tap to make syrup out of?
364:  Maple.
Interviewer:  Uh what do you call the place where there are a lot of maple trees growing?
364:  Maple grove.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh its a kind of tree with broad leaves and they shed all at one time its got long white limbs and a white scaly bark on it, what kind of tree is that?
364:  I don't know what it is.
Interviewer:  They said that the has a tough wood and that they use it for making chopping blocks out of?
364:  Chopping blocks?
Interviewer:  Make a chopping block out of that tree its real hard wood.
364:  Oh a maple oh um no. #1 Beech #
Auxiliary:  #2 Elm? #
364:  Beechwood.
Interviewer:  Well it didn't do you know a sycamore tree?
364:  Yeah. #1 Syc- #
Interviewer:  #2 Is that it? #
364:  I'd rather think um b-beech. Its harder than s- than uh sycamore.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  But uh either one's a hard wood.
Interviewer:  What other ki- kind of common trees grow around in this area?
364:  Pine. Uh.
Auxiliary:  Cedar.
364:  White oak. Cedar. Red oak. Ash. And uh all of the names {D: sell them different.}
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. What kind of tree did George Washington cut down?
364:  Well that's a cherry tree.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  The one. {NW} The little cherry tree.
Interviewer:  Alright this is a kind of bush and it grows along the road or by fences and it's leaves turn bright red early and it has little clusters of berries and old people use it to tan leather with? Do you know that bush? Or shrub?
364:  {NW} What is that? #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 It says its # some of its poison. Some kind of its #1 poison. #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
364:  #2 #
Interviewer:  #1 Do you know if it #
364:  #2 Well its its # also a medicine.
Interviewer:  Yeah is it sumac?
364:  Yeah. Sumac.
Interviewer:  Oh was that, I have
364:  #1 Sumac sumac. #
Interviewer:  #2 I #
364:  Sumac.
Interviewer:  Sumac. #1 Okay. #
364:  #2 Sumac. # That's what it is. {NW}
Interviewer:  Does it grow down here?
364:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Does it grow around here?
364:  Oh yeah.
Interviewer:  Does it?
364:  Yeah sumac here.
Interviewer:  Uh how about uh something that you don't want to get a hold of when you're out in the woods you don't want to get it on you cause it'll make you itch and?
364:  Poison oak. Or ivy. #1 Poison ivy #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-kay. # How about names of red berries that you eat with sugar and cream?
364:  Goose? No it wouldn't be a gooseberry.
Interviewer:  Alright. What other kind of berries?
364:  #1 Uh. #
Auxiliary:  #2 Strawberry. #
364:  Yeah strawberry.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh what other kind'll grow around here? Of berries?
364:  Strawberry, blackberry. That's that's mostly grown around here.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh there's a kind of berry that has a rough surface kind of like a looks like a blackberry but its its a red one do you know that one? We don't grow it here. Its real sour. You know what a raspberry?
364:  Yeah a raspberry.
Interviewer:  But they don't grow here do they?
364:  No.
Interviewer:  And blueberries don't grow
364:  Blueberries don't grow here.
Interviewer:  Do they have to have cold weather?
364:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Does blue do blueberries have to have cold weather?
364:  I don't know. But uh they're in the north
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah? #
364:  #2 and # yeah. There are just blueberry fields.
Interviewer:  And I just love 'em but you you can't grow 'em here.
364:  No I don't know why. I'll have to try g-growing #1 some here. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # I just wonder. Do you know honeydew melon?
364:  Yeah. #1 I #
Interviewer:  #2 I # brought some seed back from Texas last year of honeydew melon and they grow 'em out there just like we do cantaloupe or watermelon
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  but we don't grow honeydew, do we?
364:  Yeah sometimes.
Interviewer:  Do you?
364:  I have grown and uh there was a man uh who was he? I don't know He is at uh Jackson's Feed and Seed store. He brought one he'd raised a honeydew. They don't grow too large.
Interviewer:  Uh-uh.
364:  And that was the sweetest #1 thing yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Oo they're so # good and they pop #1 'em out #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  a dollar in the grocery store for a little ol' bitty one you know?
364:  I I've got one I think didn't somebody pull my melon? Mary brought me some seed from New York last spring. {C: Distorted}
Interviewer:  But I didn't know if you could uh grow them here or not. {C: Distorted}
364:  Oh yeah yeah you can grow 'em here. {C: Distorted}
Interviewer:  But I have to say you ought we could because we thought it was about {C: Distorted} the same kind of climate here as it was in Texas {C: Distorted} #1 when we got there. #
364:  #2 Uh-huh. # Do you pull my melon out there? Well let them uh.
Interviewer:  Are you the guilty one?
Auxiliary:  I'm just sitting {D: in this mind going who goes?}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
Auxiliary:  #2 {NW} #
364:  I planted them you give me the seeds and I planted them.{C: Laughter}
Auxiliary:  {NW} No I didn't pull it.
364:  Uh I think I saw it in the kitchen then.
Interviewer:  I just didn't know you could grow honeydew #1 melons. #
Auxiliary:  #2 That wasn't honeydew. #
364:  Huh?
Auxiliary:  That wasn't honeydew. That was just plain old cantaloupe {D: must go out of our way.} Never brought that.
364:  #1 Well I #
Auxiliary:  #2 You. #
364:  I thought thinking maybe it was honeydew.
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  But.
Interviewer:  Not it?
364:  Uh uh now. A honeydew do uh it don't have a brown rind.
Interviewer:  No it has a green rind.
364:  Green rind. #1 yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. #
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Real smooth rind.
364:  Yeah. Sure.
Interviewer:  Real sweet and good and the the meat is green.
Auxiliary:  It
364:  #1 Yeah it sure is. #
Auxiliary:  #2 sure is. # I raise them every year out there in the garden. and little bits. {X}
364:  Uh they, they're they they're not slick rind.
Auxiliary:  They're green? Green rinds?
364:  Now that's the #1 sweetest #
Auxiliary:  #2 Green. #
364:  melon #1 Uh. #
Auxiliary:  #2 Yeah? #
364:  #1 I wish I could grow a #
Auxiliary:  #2 {D: Its very good.} #
364:  #1 patch of 'em. #
Auxiliary:  #2 I've got plenty of seeds now. #
364:  #1 #
Auxiliary:  #2 #
364:  I said last uh I said if I live uh and can get somebody's fixing me up some ground I was gonna try and raise me a patch of mush-melons. I don't care about my watermelon.
Interviewer:  I like about two a year. #1 Lo- #
364:  #2 No. #
Interviewer:  Like 'em you know I.
364:  I eat one little piece of melon every day down in the field. All all I've tasted this year. I used to wake up at night and eat watermelon.
Interviewer:  {NW} {NS} Lets see I guess we've got all the berries. How about uh uh some berries that grow in the woods and are not good to eat if they could kill you you'd say they're what kind of berries?
364:  Hackberries.
Interviewer:  Alright but uh it not just a {D: hackberry} but any kind of berry that you can't eat what would you say don't eat it it might be?
364:  Poison.
Interviewer:  Okay.
Auxiliary:  Pokeberry.
Interviewer:  Uh do you know a a flowering bush that blooms in the late spring that grows around here?
364:  Blooms in the late spring? Oh I I don't know much about flowers.
Auxiliary:  {X}
Interviewer:  Do you know the mountain laurel?
Auxiliary:  Yeah.
364:  No I don't.
Auxiliary:  We have one sitting down now.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. How about then there's a bigger one with uh longer stems and they grow further up in the mountains I don't believe they grow here. Rhododendron do you know rhododendron?
364:  #1 No I don't know. #
Auxiliary:  #2 No I don't think I know that. #
Interviewer:  And now this one grows here its a large flowering tree and it has shiny leaves and a big white flower, and inside the flower there's a big ol' seed pod that's prickly. Do you know what that one is? Smells real good. Smells lemony kinda.
364:  {NW} No I
Interviewer:  You know the magnolia?
364:  #1 No #
Auxiliary:  #2 Magnolia. #
364:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
364:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  #1 You don't #
364:  #2 You #
Interviewer:  know any more about flowers than you do cooking, #1 don't you? #
364:  #2 Uh no # I sure don't. {NW}
Auxiliary:  I had all the little ones growing I tell you they.
Interviewer:  They're hard to raise aren't they?
Auxiliary:  Yeah they sure is. I've lost two three trying to raise.
Interviewer:  {NW}
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  Magnolia?
Auxiliary:  Uh-huh.
364:  Well I don't #1 I didn't know it #
Auxiliary:  #2 {X} #
364:  I didn't know it was a tree.
Auxiliary:  Yeah. #1 No its a large tree. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. # #1 Like its a big tree. #
364:  #2 Yeah? # I didn't know it #1 was raised. #
Interviewer:  #2 They're real # {D: all thing bounds} that they're real messy #1 if they're real big #
Auxiliary:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  because they'd fall off. #1 It'd be #
364:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #1 if I'm #
Auxiliary:  #2 They smell good. #
Interviewer:  How about uh uh names that uh your wife might call you at night instead of husband? What might?
364:  Uh-oh. I ain't gonna tell that.{C: Laughter} {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 If she's referring. #
364:  #2 I # I ain't gonna
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  I sure ain't gonna tell that.
Auxiliary:  {D: I'll spare you.}
364:  {NW} #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 If she's referring # to you to somebody and she says well now I don't know if I can buy that or not I'll just have to ask my?
364:  Well. Uh she might if she's talking to somebody else #1 she might've said #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah? #
364:  husband. #1 But if she's #
Interviewer:  #2 But if she didn't #
364:  talking to me now I ain't gonna tell what she. {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh does she ever call you her old man?
364:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Her old man?
364:  Uh no I don't think no she ain't no never call 'em I ain't never remember her calling me uh #1 her old man. #
Interviewer:  #2 But you know # some women do #1 refer to their husbands as #
364:  #2 Yeah yeah. #
Interviewer:  #1 my old man. #
364:  #2 And and # Some Its more commonly with white women. She's not saying her old man, says my man.
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Oh really?
364:  Oh yes, that. {NW}
Interviewer:  She won't say my old man she's gonna #1 not huh. #
364:  #2 No she says # my man.
Interviewer:  I see.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  How about what you call her then? #1 Instead of my wife? #
364:  #2 Well # Well it uh that sort of depends.
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Do you ever call her your old lady?
364:  No I call her my wife.
Interviewer:  Your wife. Have you ever called her your missus?
364:  No.
Interviewer:  No?
364:  No.
Interviewer:  Now just okay the missus some of 'em some of 'em call us the missus.
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Or my woman but okay. How about a woman whose husband's dead what do you call her?
364:  A widow.
Interviewer:  If he just left her not dead what do you know a a term that you might?
364:  {X}
Interviewer:  {NW} Okay. The the man whose son you are is called your who?
364:  The man is who is?
Interviewer:  You're the son of whom? What do you call your?
364:  My son.
Interviewer:  Alright well what does your son call you?
364:  They call they usually call me Daddy if they don't call me a bad name.
Interviewer:  Oh well I bet they don't call you a bad name.
364:  Oh yes they do.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  Some of 'em call call me names I ain't gonna tell.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  I won't use.
Auxiliary:  Oh.
Interviewer:  And instead of Daddy what would be a a more
364:  Papa.
Interviewer:  Alright what'd probably be a more polite form?
364:  Father.
Interviewer:  Alright. Um and what did you call your father? What term did you call your father?
364:  If I had uh if had uh known my father uh I'd call him Papa.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh and his his wife would be called your?
364:  Grandmother.
Interviewer:  Alright uh what did you what did you call your mother? What name?
364:  I called her Mama.
Interviewer:  Alright. And your father and mother together are called your?
364:  Parents.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh instead of uh speaking of your children as your children do you sometimes call them other names?
364:  Kids.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  Uh that's my co-common #1 thing. {C: laughing} #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. {C: laughing} #
364:  #1 My kids. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
364:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # A a a name that a child's known by just in the family what would that be? Maybe a child's name is William but then the family calls him something #1 else? #
364:  #2 A nickname. #
Interviewer:  Okay. What is something on wheels that you put a baby in and it lies down in it?
364:  Baby buggy.
Interviewer:  Alright. Um you might say um if you put the baby in the car- baby buggy and were gonna go out and uh take him outside in the fresh air what would you say you're gonna do to the baby?
364:  {NW} I don't know I never did have much to do. #1 {D: Yeah I had no business.} #
Interviewer:  #2 You never did much babysitting did you? #
Auxiliary:  #1 Oh no no no. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
Auxiliary:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 {NW} # I ne- I never did a baby rock. #1 {NW} #
Auxiliary:  #2 He just loves babies. #
Interviewer:  Uh
364:  Ride the baby.
Interviewer:  Ride the baby okay that's fine.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Um. How would you say your children range in age you'd say well so-and-so is the which one would be the in chronological age how would you describe #1 your children? #
364:  #2 Uh. # This is oldest. #1 Youngest. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
364:  And uh this is next to this so-and-so.
Interviewer:  Okay good. How about uh You would you say the most grown-up? You'd just say the oldest.
364:  Oldest. #1 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. # Your children are your sons and?
364:  Daughters.
Interviewer:  And all of your children are boys and?
364:  Girls.
Interviewer:  Alright. If a woman is about to have a baby you say she's?
364:  Pregnant.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Any other terms?
364:  Oh yeah. Mm-hmm. Lots of terms.
Interviewer:  Uh any of the terms that you'd say that women use just to each other like? {NS}
364:  Uh. {NS} Well its I guess so I don't know 'em.
Interviewer:  You don't know any #1 okay. #
364:  #2 Uh-uh. #
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Any uh
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  If the woman doesn't have a husband and she's about to have a baby would you talk of it a different way?
364:  We we call 'em bastards.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And you told me a while ago your grand uh your mother was a? You said she was a housewife but she was also a? #1 What'd you say? #
364:  #2 Midwife. #
Interviewer:  Okay. And a midwife is somebody who delivers a baby if you don't have a doctor.
364:  That's right.
Interviewer:  There are not many of those left anymore #1 are there? #
364:  #2 No no. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
364:  #2 #
Interviewer:  Kay.
364:  I don't know of any.
Interviewer:  If a boy has the same color hair and eyes as his father and the same shaped nose you might say he?
364:  Resembles him.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh you love to take Aunt Jane's advice about your children she's already so-and-so ten of them what would you say?
364:  I didn't get the first part.
Interviewer:  Okay well you ought to take her advice about children cause she's already?
364:  Experienced it. #1 uh. #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. #
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  She's already raised or?
364:  Yeah. Raised them.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh to a child who is mis- misbehaved you'd say if you do that again I'll give you a good?
364:  Spanking.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW} {NS}
Interviewer:  You A lot of times when you go to a family reunion or something you see a child you hadn't seen in a long time you're gonna say my how you've?
364:  Have grown.
Interviewer:  Okay.
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Um. What is your brother's son called?
364:  Nephew.
Interviewer:  A child that's lost both it's father and mother is called?
364:  Miss?
Interviewer:  A child who's lost both his father and mother.
364:  Orphan.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Orphan child.
Interviewer:  Uh what is the person who's appointed to look after an orphan?
364:  Guardian.
Interviewer:  Uh if you have a lot of cousins, nephews, and nieces around you'd say this town is full of my?
364:  Kinfolk.
Interviewer:  Okay. Someone who comes into town and new and no one's ever seen him before he's what?
364:  Hadn't seen before?
Interviewer:  Yes sir nobody.
364:  A stranger.
Interviewer:  Right. Mm-kay. Uh a common name for a girl beginning with M? The name of the mother of Jesus?
364:  Mary.
Interviewer:  Kay. And a common name that I hope George Washington's wife? #1 You remember? #
364:  #2 First lady? #
Interviewer:  Yes sir. You remember her first name?
364:  Martha.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh a nickname for Helen but it begins with N? And its there's a song wait till the sun shines?
364:  And its the same name as Helen?
Interviewer:  Yes sir its a nickname for Helen but it begins with an N.
364:  Nanny? No. It wouldn't be that.
Interviewer:  Do you know the the old song wait till the sun shines?
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And then it has that name with it?
364:  No I.
Interviewer:  Do you know the name Nelly? Nelly.
364:  No I don't.
Interviewer:  N-E-L-L-Y they say is a nickname for Helen.
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  Nelly?
Interviewer:  Yes sir.
364:  #1 No I didn't know that. #
Auxiliary:  #2 {NW} #
364:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # And the nickname for a little boy named William?
364:  Bill.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And if and when he's older you call him Bill what do you call him when he's younger? Do you make any distinction between Billy and Bills?
364:  I wouldn't.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh the first book of the New Testament in the Bible?
364:  That'd be Genesis.
Interviewer:  In the New Testament.
364:  Oh in Gene- it'd be uh Matthew.
Interviewer:  Okay. A woman who conducts school is a what?
364:  She's a teacher.
Interviewer:  Okay. You ever call her a schoolmarm?
364:  Yeah. #1 Schoolmarm. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
364:  Now that's uh uh that's a northern term.
Interviewer:  Is it?
364:  We use that in the north. Schoolmarm.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Um do you know the the name of the town where the baseball hall of fame is? In Ohio? Do you know the name Cooperstown?
364:  {NW} I heard of it but I didn't I didn't uh don't remember this uh hall of fame.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm where the baseball hall of fame that's where Babe Ruth's
364:  Yeah?
Interviewer:  belongings and #1 things are. #
364:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Okay. Are are uh it says its the name of a barrel maker do you know what's a coop? The Cooper Barrel Makers does that name? #1 Do you mean anything to that? #
364:  #2 No. No. #
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-kay. #
364:  #2 {NW} # I don't know that.
Interviewer:  Alright anyway if you knew somebody whose family name was Cooper how would you address a woman by that name?
364:  I'd be you'd say Miss Cooper or Mister Cooper uh Missus Cooper. #1 Or m- #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. #
364:  Miss Cooper.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh a preacher that's not really trained and he doesn't have a regular pulpit but he preaches on Sunday here and there and makes his living doing something else what kind of preacher do you call him?
Auxiliary:  {NW}
364:  Mostly jackleg.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  Jackleg priest.
Interviewer:  Would you would you refer to uh would you use the term jack-leg in talking about a lawyer or a doctor as well as a preacher?
364:  Sure.
Interviewer:  So it just means untrained?
364:  Untrained.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  And. {NW}
Auxiliary:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh what relation would your mother's sister be to you?
364:  My mo- uh my aunt?
Interviewer:  Yeah that's right.
364:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Uh do the do do you know the name of the wife of Abraham in the Bible?
364:  Abraham?
Interviewer:  Abraham's wife do you know her name?
364:  Sarah.
Interviewer:  That's right. Do you know uh if your now if your father had a brother whose name was William, what would you call him?
364:  Uncle Bill.
Interviewer:  Alright. How about if he was John?
364:  {D: How abouts which?}
Interviewer:  If his name was John?
364:  Uncle John.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh I'm gonna get in trouble with this one. There's not the commander of the army of Northern Virginia, who was he? Who was the the commander of the southern of the Confederate Army?
364:  {NW} Well.
Interviewer:  General Grant was the northern army, who was the southern?
364:  Here comes you got some company out there.
Interviewer:  Yeah it looks like he #1 got. #
364:  #2 Uh # let's see. Uh {NS} Andrew Jackson? #1 No. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh # how about in uh in World War II George Patton if you knew George Patton what what title would you address him by? {NS}
364:  Colonel? {NS}
Interviewer:  Higher than a colonel? {NS}
364:  No I don't remember. Yeah thank you. Uh. {C: lots of background noise}
Interviewer:  What's the highest? What was what was Eisenhower?
364:  He was a general.
Interviewer:  Alright #1 that's what I'm looking for. #
364:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  And you said colonel. How about one uh the man in charge of a ship?
364:  He's an admiral.
Interviewer:  Um. Maybe higher than an admiral or lower I don't know much about these myself.
364:  Mm.
Interviewer:  Uh captain. Is that higher or lower than an admiral?
364:  Oh its uh much lower.
Interviewer:  Much lower #1 than an admiral? #
364:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  But a a an admiral yeah. Admiral is uh he's a he's a same as a general.
Interviewer:  He is?
364:  Yeah. #1 Same as a #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay but # just anybody who was in charge of a ship would be called a captain wouldn't they? #1 Okay. #
364:  #2 Yeah yeah sure. # {NW}
Interviewer:  How about the man who presides over the uh county court? What do you call him?
364:  Judge.
Interviewer:  Alright. What do you call a person who goes to college to study?
364:  I'd call 'em a I'd just call 'em a student.
Interviewer:  Okay. Do you make the distinction between a scholar and student? Does a
364:  No.
Interviewer:  A scholar mean anything different than a student?
364:  Not not in my thinking.
Interviewer:  Alright good. Uh a woman in an office who handles the boss's mail and schedules his appointments and so forth, what's she called?
364:  The clerk.
Interviewer:  Alright and another word for it let's see. She's called maybe his private?
364:  Clerk.
Interviewer:  Or.
364:  Private secretary.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Private secretary.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. A woman who appears in plays or movies is called a what?
364:  Star.
Interviewer:  Alright and she's not that big of a not that well known just playing in the movie what would she be called?
364:  Mm.
Interviewer:  Actress?
364:  Well yeah actress. #1 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 An actress. #
364:  that that'll be a term for that I guess.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  But.
Interviewer:  And uh your nationality anyone born in the U.S.A is called an?
364:  {D: Where was we born?}
Interviewer:  Anybody who's born in the United States is called?
364:  A citizen.
Interviewer:  Alright but what nationality and what? If you live in America what are you?
364:  Citizen. #1 {D: Yup.} #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright # an American citizen. Uh.
364:  An American citizen.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Now I'm gonna get in trouble with this one too I guess. Um. I know I {D: ought} introduce it like they tell me to here. {NW} They tell me that not too many years ago these people had special facilities from schools and public toilets to seats in restaurants and buses and who were they?
364:  Had which?
Interviewer:  Had special facilities. Special schools and public toilets and seats in restaurants and buses #1 who were they? #
364:  #2 {D: That there's} # the negro.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  You ain't gonna have no trouble with that.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  {NW} Alright. That you are of the negro race what do you call the race that I am now?
364:  Caucasian.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh. Let me ask you about joking words that you call white people.
364:  Joking? #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 That you might #
364:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 refer to white people. #
364:  You mean slang?
Interviewer:  Yes sir.
364:  That's uh like uh like you call me a nigger?
Interviewer:  Yes sir now what would you call
364:  Peckerwood.
Interviewer:  Pecker. {NW}
364:  {NW} #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. #
364:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # Does that mean?
364:  Now that's that's just joking now.
Interviewer:  Well that's okay does that mean the same thing as a poor white?
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What you'd call white trash?
364:  White white {NW} we got so many name. White trash {D: Rosen's} chores.
Interviewer:  Now what's that one?
364:  {D: Rosen chores.}
Interviewer:  Don't know that one.
364:  You don't know? You never heard? Oh that's common with with us.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  We we call oh that one ain't nothing but an old {D: Rosen chore.}
Interviewer:  I see I didn't #1 know that. #
364:  #2 Peckerwood. #
Interviewer:  #1 #
364:  #2 # Uh #1 {D: Rosen chore or} #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: Are we get?} #
364:  poor white trash stuff like. But y'all uh the white uses that poor white #1 trash. #
Interviewer:  #2 We use it # too we sure do.
364:  You sure do.
Interviewer:  How about rednecks?
364:  Yeah they call 'em rednecks.
Interviewer:  That's a name that makes Jordan what word makes Jordan Wallace mad is when you call him a redneck.
364:  {NW} Yeah oh now when it comes to that old stuff we uh we are full of it. Uh some some people resent some negroes resent the word nigger. I do myself. I resent it. But I allow that for old custom.
Interviewer:  Yeah well I don't think young people anymore say that they say negro or black.
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
364:  They don't say it now. No. Refers to my self. {C: pronunciation}
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  An an and uh they address me as boy {D: with his drive making one yellow} he'll colored me boy. Called me a boy.
Interviewer:  But I don't think they do that much anymore do they?
364:  Not I checked on one yesterday in Hill county. She called me {D: purple.}
Interviewer:  Oh hello Louise. How are you? {NW} I'm so glad to see you.
Auxiliary:  {D: Rosen chore?}
Interviewer:  Uh when Louise her friend came in he was telling me what all names he used for
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  to call us they'd say.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  How about a child born of a racially mixed marriage?
364:  They're mulattoes.
Interviewer:  Alright with one black grandparent? Is that a mulatto?
364:  Mm uh-huh.
Interviewer:  With one black great-grandparent?
364:  That's still mulatto.
Interviewer:  Uh one with especially light colored skin.
364:  Well it they still in in our books they're still mulatto.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh how would you as an old-timer call the man you worked for? What was the term you'd call the man you worked for? Long years ago.
364:  Yeah long years ago. I'd call him my main. Most folks most of the workers call it boss.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay if you weren't using his last name then you'd just call him?
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Boss? #1 Okay. #
364:  #2 Mr. Smith and Mr. Jones #
Interviewer:  Okay. Um white people who aren't well-off haven't had a chance at education especially those that are good for nothing and too lazy to work what did you call them? {NW}
364:  {NW} Well I'd call 'em like I would a a black person I'd just call 'em good for nothing.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW} No good folks.
Interviewer:  Did it make the difference if they were town or country people?
364:  If it no no.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-kay. #
Auxiliary:  #2 {NW} #
364:  Make no difference who they are. #1 Or where they are. #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. # We talked about poor whites and you named you mentioned that term peckerwood did you ever her-hear the term cracker?
364:  Yeah oh yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Is that mean about the same thing?
364:  Same thing.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  Same thing.
Interviewer:  Uh somebody who lives out in the country and doesn't know anything about town ways? What would you? Do you know terms for calling him?
364:  They usually call him a country man.
Interviewer:  Alright. Do you know the term mountain boomer?
364:  I don't remember that #1 term. #
Interviewer:  #2 I don't believe that's ours #
364:  #1 No. #
Interviewer:  #2 do you? #
364:  No that's not ours.
Interviewer:  Hayseed?
364:  Who?
Interviewer:  A hayseed.
364:  No.
Interviewer:  Stump jumper?
364:  No.
Interviewer:  Don't know anything.
364:  #1 Don't know that. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
364:  #1 Those term. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-kay. #
364:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Uh if its not quite midnight and somebody asks you what time it is you might say well its not quite midnight yet but its?
364:  Uh. Oh I.
Interviewer:  Would you?
364:  I would say its near midnight.
Interviewer:  Alright. {X}
364:  I didn't I'd I'd go and comment on some of those.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Well what if Doc Foster come back if he needs you to comment on some of 'em?
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  If someone is waiting for you to get ready so that you can go out with him and he calls to you hey will you be ready soon you might answer I'll be with you in?
364:  A few minutes.
Interviewer:  Uh you know you're on the right road but aren't sure of the distance you ask somebody how?
364:  Far.
Interviewer:  If you're pointing at something nearby you say?
364:  Yonder.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. Uh if you want to know how many times you say how blank did you go to town? Thought about how many times?
364:  Five. Uh you know what uh that's uh how many times do you go to town?
Interviewer:  Alright do you use uh the term how often do you #1 go to town? #
364:  #2 Often mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. You agree with a friend when he says I'm not going to do that or I'm not going to vote for that person and you say I'm not either but how did you say it?
364:  Uh I would give a reason just for my not voting for him.
Interviewer:  Alright would you say uh neither am I or nor me either or?
364:  Neither am I.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  Neither am I.
Interviewer:  Uh this part of the head's called what?
364:  Fore. {NS}
Interviewer:  Uh you go to the barber and have him cut your? What do you go to?
364:  Hair.
Interviewer:  Alright how about this?
364:  Uh shave me.
Interviewer:  Alright uh what's what do you shave off?
364:  My whiskers. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. {C: laughing} # A long one?
364:  Beard.
Interviewer:  Okay. #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  {NW} Where did the old-time storekeeper keep his pencil when he wasn't using it?
364:  Behind his ear.
Interviewer:  {NW} #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Which one?
364:  Usually the right ear.
Interviewer:  Unless he was left-handed right?
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW} Usually the right ear.
Interviewer:  If someone's mumbling you say take that chewing gum out of your?
364:  Mouth. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh # he got a chicken bone stuck in his?
364:  Throat.
Interviewer:  Alright what's the outside of the throat called?
364:  Uh its uh wait a minute wait {NW} and let's see. Adam's apple.
Interviewer:  Okay. {C: laughing}
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  The goozle ain't an Adam's apple
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the this part uh.
364:  Throat.
Interviewer:  Alright but that you wrap your tie around?
364:  Around your neck?
Interviewer:  Okay. You have the dentist look at your?
364:  Teeth.
Interviewer:  Uh the flesh around the teeth?
364:  Gums.
Interviewer:  Uh this part of your hand?
364:  {D: Palm.}
Interviewer:  This kind part?
364:  Uh. Your {D: fingers}.
Interviewer:  Okay and two of 'em?
364:  Two yeah.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. A place where your bones come together?
364:  Joint.
Interviewer:  Uh upper part of a man's body?
364:  Your breast.
Interviewer:  Of a man's body? You call do you call it the same that you do a woman's body?
364:  It shifts.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if you say he's got broad this part?
364:  #1 Broad shoulders. #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. #
364:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Uh you measure the height of a horse in what?
364:  Hands.
Interviewer:  Uh the the pain ran from his heel all the way up his?
364:  Leg.
Interviewer:  At the end of your leg is your?
364:  End of a end of a leg. It's foot.
Interviewer:  Alright and you have two?
364:  Feet.
Interviewer:  Okay. I stumbled over a box in the dark and bruised my what's this part called?
364:  Your ankle?
Interviewer:  Uh the front part maybe?
364:  The front? #1 Oh the shin. #
Interviewer:  #2 You bruise the? # Mm-kay.
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  The back part of the thigh its about midway between the knee and the butt, you're squatting down on what?
364:  Uh get down on your hunkers.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay {NS} #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Someone's been sick a while but he's up and about now but you stay he's say he still looks a bit?
364:  He's still still #1 sick. #
Interviewer:  #2 He's # he's been sick but he's up uh and about now but you look at him and think he still looks just a little bit?
364:  A little bit off or s- uh {D: sleek.}
Interviewer:  Alright puny?
364:  Puny #1 yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Alright. # Do you use the word peaked? Looks a little peaked?
364:  I don't use it #1 uh-uh. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh okay. #
364:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Uh uh a person who can lift heavy weights? What would you say about him?
364:  If {D: they what?}
Interviewer:  A person who could lift a heavy weight how would you describe them?
364:  Stout.
Interviewer:  Okay. Uh a person who always has a smile on his face and never loses his temper you say he's mighty?
364:  Mighty pleasant.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  He's a mighty pleasant man.
Interviewer:  {NW} Uh somebody like a teenager who's all arms and legs and always falling over his feet you'd say he's mighty?
364:  Clumsy. {NW}
Interviewer:  A person who keeps on doing things that don't make any sense you say he's just a plain old?
364:  Fool.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. {NW}
364:  {NW} Like me.
Interviewer:  {NW}
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Now I wouldn't say that. #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
364:  #2 I know that word mighty well. #
Interviewer:  {NW} A person who has plenty of money and hangs onto it is what?
364:  Oh he's stingy.
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh somebody who gets money and help from other people but doesn't give much or anything #1 in return. #
364:  #2 Free-hearted # He's free-hearted.
Interviewer:  Uh the word tightwad you ever call anybody a tightwad?
364:  Tightwad.
Interviewer:  He was stingy.
364:  Yeah yeah
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  that's the same as
Interviewer:  Okay.
364:  tightwad. And stingy. I've heard the expressions. #1 Uh but #
Interviewer:  #2 Do you # Excuse me go ahead.
364:  I've heard that expression #1 lots #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-kay. #
364:  of times, he's a tightwad.
Interviewer:  {NW} When we use the word common about a person what do you mean exactly?
364:  Common?
Interviewer:  Yes sir.
364:  Well what my term for a common person is a person that can uh acquaint himsel- uh adjust himself to any situation.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
364:  Whether it be rich or poor he's a common person.
Interviewer:  Alright uh then you'd use it in a complimentary sense you mean something good by it don't you?
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Alright.
364:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh if do you do you ever use it in an uncomplimentary sense?
364:  Well uh yeah I I say he's stuck up.
Interviewer:  Alright but if you say if you use the word common about a girl a girl being common do you mean something other than something good?
364:  No. #1 No. #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
364:  #1 Uh I am #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay. #
364:  new to saying the term.
Interviewer:  Alright. Uh an old p-