Interviewer: What would you call a- a porch at the back of the house General? 434: Back porch. Interviewer: Just call that a back porch? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if I- if I came into the room and I left the door open and you didn't want it to stay open you'd tell me to do what? 434: Close the door. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- and would you might- might u- would you say anything else maybe? Close the door or- Or do #1 what? # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Might say- Aux: Slam the door? Interviewer: #1 If you didn't # Aux: #2 the door? # Interviewer: say close the door you might say what? Might say- Don't leave that door open go back and- Aux: Shut it. 434: That's right. {D: Well}. That's the only thing you said isn't it? Don't leave the door open. Interviewer: #1 Or # Aux: #2 Go ahead and # shut it. Interviewer: Or it might tell her to shut the door? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Mmm-kay. What do you call you know the boards like you have on the side of your house that overlap each other, what do you call that? 434: Weather board. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Weather board. Uh have you ever heard that called anything else 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 maybe a- # Interviewer: an older word for that? 434: {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I'da #1 used it. # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: Well {X} and they set 'em straight up and they take a {X} {D: and one before it cuz} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And put over the crack {NS} See they- they leave a crack bout that wide between them boards well then they get another strip and tack over that pipe. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And they put six nails in it. And when them boards come from over that crack you sitting there in fresh air camp in the house wind would come right in through and on you you know they had them boards that stripped out to keep the wind turnt back and after that sun would draw them nails out well that left a crack in the wall about that wide. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call the part of the house that covers the top? 434: Roofing. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call those little things on the edge of the roof that the w- carries the water off? 434: Gutters. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard those called anything else? Uh-huh. What do you uh uh you know where you might have a house where you have two roofs you know that come together what do you call that area right between the two? Have you ever heard that called a- 434: They call that a {X} between the two Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard that called anything besides a 434: #1 Never # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: have, they use to run them things into wells for water. Interviewer: Is that right? 434: The water come off of the house and run into a well and that's what they drink. Interviewer: What would you call maybe a little building that you might have outside where you might keep your tools or your wood or something like that? Might say ya- you have a little what out back? 434: Something like a room back there? Interviewer: Uh-huh or just a- a real small building where you might keep wood or tools or something like that. What would you call something like that? 434: Well they'd call that a- You mean a wood- for #1 your wood? # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: You- you might keep your stove wood there. 434: They call that a woodhouse. Interviewer: Woodhouse? Aux: {NS} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard that called anything else? 434: Never have. Put your wood in there you know and when it rains you still got dry wood. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Before- before ya- ya had indoor plumbing General what would you call a- a pla- an outdoor toilet? Aux: {NW} 434: Lotta people used to call 'em back houses. Interviewer: Is that right? Is that- is that what 434: #1 Yeah that's right. # Interviewer: #2 you would call it? # 434: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there any- is there any word that you might call it if you were just joking with somebody? 434: No uh not as I know of. Interviewer: You'd still call it a backhouse? 434: Backhouse. Aux: {NW} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {NW} 434: In fact a woman come in here didn't she and asked could she- did we have a bath or something other like that I told her yeah. She said well I sit up there that {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: {NW} yeah it- yeah yeah yeah I'm {X} Interviewer: Mm. What uh you said you did a lot of farming General, what kind of buildings would you have on a farm? 434: Buildings? Interviewer: Uh-huh. What different- 434: Cotton house. Cribs. Feed houses. Interviewer: What ab- 434: Barns for the mules. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would- what- what did you use a barn for? What did you 434: #1 Corn. # Interviewer: #2 keep in a barn? # 434: Hay. Interviewer: Kept the corn and the hay in the barn? 434: And mules on the side shelved on the side for the mules. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And the corn crib was a place where you stored the corn? 434: That's where I stored my corn in that barn you know and that crib, they call it crib. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you- did you have a building or maybe a part of a building where you stored other kinds of grain? 434: I didn't have nothing else but corn. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You- have you ever heard of a granary? What would you call the upper part of a barn? Aux: {X} Interviewer: The high part of it. 434: {D: Old-} Now they used to call that a a loft. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Where you kept your hay and fodder and stuff. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there any other place in a barn where you might store hay? Other than the loft? 434: Well if if your barn big enough you can store your hay have rungs on the side for your hay and wrung for your corn. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Stuff like that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call- uh what do you call it when you have hay piled out piled up outside a barn? What do you call that pile of hay? 434: Well I couldn't- Aux: Haystack. {X} 434: That's- that's called uh a stack of hay I guess stacked up outside the barn. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh if you- if you just had it piled up in- in small piles in the field after its cut what would you call those things? 434: They call that a- {NS} they have it- you mean four and five bales at {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Well they- they- they call that a windroll where they bale the hay and chunk it off the side and you take a truck and drive it on and pick it up. Interviewer: Is that right? 434: They call that a- a windroll. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {X} Have you ever seen a- a place on a farm that would be used for storing hay outside a barn, it might have- be all- might have a roof you know on four poles or something like that and you put hay under it? 434: I seen that. Interviewer: You know what 434: #1 {D: thought I had a shelf}. # Interviewer: #2 that's called? # Just a shelf? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What- what would you call the hay when its out in the field just drying? You know just- just piled up in the field to let it dry? 434: Uh I don't know is there is it another name for the hay. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard that called a haycock? Never heard it called that. Aux: {D: I heard it before, he's {X}} 434: Huh? Aux: Gotta pick the haystack that he {X} something like that. Interviewer: Where- where'd you keep your cows on a farm General? 434: In the pasture. Interviewer: In the pasture? When you wanted to put 'em inside where would you put 'em? 434: Cow pen where I milk 'em at. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would you call a place that was covered where you put your cows in? 434: Barn. Interviewer: Just call it a barn? 434: Cow barn. Interviewer: Cow barn? Uh-huh. What about a- what do you call a place where people keep horses? 434: Call that a barn. Interviewer: A barn? You ever- 434: Horses. Interviewer: Ever heard that called anything else? Okay. You said that uh when you're going to milk the cows you kept 'em in a cowpen? 434: That's right. Interviewer: {X} Uh-huh. Uh did you ever have a special place where you kept your cows uh until you got a- a lot of manure in that place and then you used it for uh growing something? 434: They call that a cowpen. {NS} See you pen the cows. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: #1 {D: At nights.} # Aux: #2 Well there's # stalls too {X} Interviewer: Would it- would it be the same thing as the 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 cowpen where # you keep 'em for 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 milking? # 434: See you pen 'em at night. {NS} You had a good bunch of cattle and you pen 'em at night you grow fertilizer there, compost they call it, manure yep. For your garden and 'tatoes and stuff. Interviewer: That pretty good for growing stuff? 434: Oh there's- {D: mixed a} watermelon. Collard greens. Interviewer: That'd say- that'll do it huh? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Good. What uh- where do you keep your hogs and your pigs, where- what kind of place would you call that? 434: Well they g- got a place they call a hog pasture. They have different lot for hogs and the cows see you- you have this hog wire and then they have barbed wire. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Cows, now you dig your hog pens outta hog wire they call it. Interviewer: What was the difference? 434: Well you see just barbed wire is to build pastures for cows. Well the ho- the barbed wire won't keep a hog like it will a cow, a hog'll go through it. Interviewer: Is that right, will it hurt it? It won't? 434: He's a- he's a crazy {X} he'll go through that. Interviewer: He just doesn't care huh? 434: That's right. You can't go through it. Interviewer: Would- would this hogpen be open or would it have some kind of cover over it? 434: It'll be open. Now {X} some people have {D: fourteen or fifteen} just in the hog pasture. Interviewer: Would you call it anything different if it had a cover over it? 434: Nah well. I don't know what you'd call it if it had a cover over it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Now I've seen it in the North where they have a whole pens and have 'em covered and have {X} But it's cold there you know and- and them hogs sleep in a floor place. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And they {X} in the North they got upstairs and they elevate cows upstairs. And got hay for 'em to sleep in. They be three {X} sometimes {X} them cow barns where they have these milk {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. 434: Cows sleeping on floors and have hay to stay warm. Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah that's a- that's a special kind of farm where they just raise milk cows. 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 You call # that a what? You said it what, what kind of farm? 434: Dairy farm. Interviewer: Dairy farm. 434: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Are there many of those around here? 434: There ain't no dairy farms around here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: They got 'em in the North the holstein milk, Holstein cows. Few peoples have jersey cows {D: but them}- but the most have holstein cuz they get so much milk. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: What the milk is {X} {D: don't have the cream is} the other cows do. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you- what do you call that place around the barn where you might let your cows and mules and other animals just walk around? You'd- you'd say that's just the what? You know just where all the animals wal- free to walk around. Somethin- 434: Well they call that a lot. Interviewer: Just a lot? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh the place- the place where you have your cows graze that's out in the- 434: That's out in the pasture. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} Was uh- did you have a fence around the pasture? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did uh- you ever raise cotton? 434: {X} Interviewer: How did you uh- what sort of work did you do when you were raisin cotton? 434: See we put a path through the ground and put out the fertilizer and planted the cotton Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {D: Bar it off) Chop it and {D: side} it up. And lay it by. And peak it and get the gin. And have the gin and bale and they {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. That sounds like a lotta work. 434: It was. Plenty. Interviewer: Uh. What do you call the- the kinda grass that you might have in a field somewhere that you don't want? You know that you always- 434: {X} straw fields. Interviewer: Straw field? Any other- any other kinda name for it you know stuff that you just have to pull up every time you got out there and get rid of it? 434: Well you see the- the one you try to get rid of all the time is Johnson grass. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have a lot of that? 434: #1 Well that's my you can't get rid of # Aux: #2 {X} # Upgrass is bad. 434: Upgrass is the worst for you. You pull that up everyday and it will be back the next morning. Aux: {X} Big- Big {X} 434: And sand spurs you ever see them? Interviewer: Oh yeah I've gotten sand spurs a lot. 434: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Have to rip those things out of your pants. 434: {NW} Interviewer: That's right. Those things kinda sting if you get in to enough #1 of 'em. # Aux: #2 You know # {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} Interviewer: That's a job isn't it? 434: #1 {D: Tell it} # Interviewer: #2 Tearing that # stuff up. 434: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: They'll be worth a {X} Interviewer: {D: I know} 434: Stick all over your clothes. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # That's not much fun is it? 434: You tell it. Interviewer: What would you call the place where you- where you grow your cotton and your corn? 434: Field. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Cotton patch. Call it a cotton field and corn field. Interviewer: Is uh- is a patch smaller than a field? 434: Well it's sometime they have eighteen or twenty acres. Ten and twelve acres in one of them. And cotton. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Around fifteen acres in corn. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But you'd still call it- you- you might call it either a field or a patch? 434: That's right. Interviewer: There's not any difference in a field 434: #1 There not no # Interviewer: #2 and a patch? # 434: difference just corn field and cotton field and then you have six, seven acres of peanuts. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Call that your peanut crop. Field for your peanuts. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would- what kinda fence would you call it if you might have one around your yard or around your garden might be a little white fence, you know? What kind of fence would you call that? 434: Yard fence? Interviewer: Just a yard fence? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh- you might have a taller fence than that you might have round your chicken yard. Would you call that anything else? 434: That's what you'd call a chicken yard. Interviewer: You would call- what would you call a fence around your chicken yard? Might be taller than the one around your uh front yard or your garden. 434: Well your chicken yard should be taller than your front yard. Interviewer: Would you- would you call that a- would you call that a garden fence? 434: I wouldn't call that a garden fence I'd call that a chicken yard. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. What about the- the type of fence that you might have around your field? What kinds of fence would you have- 434: {D: Well now} they have a hog fence. A few fence to {X} and a lot of peoples they holed up crop is fenced up in barbed wire. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And they got a few cross fences for hog wires see they- You keep cows in barbed wire and you have to have a hog fence to keep your hogs. Interviewer: Before they came out with barbed wire fence what kind of fence did they have? 434: Rails. Interviewer: Just a rail fence? 434: And poles. Interviewer: Uh-huh. How did uh- how is a rail fence put together? What does it look like? 434: Well you'd start them laying a rail on this 'un. And the fence'd run from corner to corner the rails would go this way and this way and they'd come around this- And that's the way they built the fence see they'd start laying a rail here, here's your bottom rail and then you'd lay one on top of here and lay one over yonder and going and get your fence up about this high. Then you pull a corner two rails standing in the corner that brace the fence. Interviewer: Yeah. 434: Cause keep the cows from pushing it down. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You know sometime when you when you were clearing a field you might have to take a lotta rock out of the field and some people use that rock to make a fence, have you ever seen a- What would 434: #1 I've seen it # Interviewer: #2 you call a- # 434: in the North where they use rocks to make fences. Interviewer: What do they call those things? 434: I don't know what they call it up there but I seen it in {NS} I was going to New Jersey I see several places where they use rocks building fences. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But you- Aux: {X} Interviewer: You never seen any round here? 434: Never I've never seen 'em in the South. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Yeah we were talking about a barbed wire fence, when you're putting up a barbed wire fence you have to dig a hole in the ground so you can put those- 434: That's right. Interviewer: What do you call those things? 434: Posts. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Put your posts down there and then you gotta bang the strips the wire with. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And pull it tight. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And then keep the {X} wouldn't have but two strands of barbed wire to keep the cows, the cows got the whole night you gotta have four strands or sometimes six to keep cows outta there. Interviewer: Bout how big are one of those things? That you put in the ground? 434: Oh some of 'em thick as the bottom of that post, they use cross ties for some of 'em Interviewer: #1 {X} # 434: #2 rope # tie. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: You know that's pretty big job digging a hole for a fence with {D: like a railroad trying to go in.} Interviewer: You know I- I helped a friend of mine he had to dig some holes in his backyard to put a- a gate you know? And you- you know these post hole diggers? 434: That's right. Interviewer: That you have to dig? Well I tell you what, that's work. #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {D: Yeah it is} # Interviewer: I just dug- 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # a couple of 'em but I was just bout worn out after that. 434: You see that- the boy that put this fence round here he had a pair of hole diggers with {X} and he was trying to dig the holes he's just working hisself to death out there and them things all bent up. He too stingy to buy 'em. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 He was paying for it wasn't he? # 434: #2 {NW} # You tell 'em. I said boy why don't you sharpen them things? Oh you can't sharpen no hole digger I said you get your file and lemme show you. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh- what would you- you know a lot of people have uh a special set of dishes that they just use when company comes. What would you call- what would you say those dishes are made out of? Very fine 434: #1 I don't know. # Interviewer: #2 dishes. # 434: A lot of peoples have Chinese stuff you know- Interviewer: Have you ever seen a- an egg made out of that that somebody might put in a- a chicken's nest to try to get it to lay? 434: I seen that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. They just call it a what? 434: A- the- Interviewer: Say I'm gonna put this- 434: This- this egg in here that's a- a whatcha call that {X} Uh Interviewer: The egg would be made out of the same stuff? 434: That's right. Aux: China. Interviewer: The dishes? 434: China. Interviewer: It would be a- 434: China {D: you know}. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: It'd be a China {X} 434: And- and- I- I used to know the name because Aux: {X} 434: Cuz I can't think of it now. Interviewer: So if they- 434: But I've seen 'em in nests. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If the- if the eggs made out of this stuff you'd just say well it's just a- a- a #1 what? # Aux: #2 Egg. # Interviewer: What kind of egg it's a- Aux: Chinese e- 434: {X} A form of a egg, it ain't no egg. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Just an old China egg. 434: Just a old China thing to fool the hen. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: As long as the hen see that they'll lay they think ain't nobody breaking them up. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {X} {NS} But people get some things and put 'em in nests cuz I've seen them in several people's round with white folks you know where they have them things in there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I didn't have no- What you get 'em for I reckon they get {D: it eat their nest egg}. Interviewer: If you were going out to the well to get some water what would you carry with you to carry that water in? 434: Bucket. A rope. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh- what- what would these buckets, what do they look like? What shape were they? 434: They round. Interviewer: Just round? Would a- what would a bucket be made out of? 434: Well some of them made out of aluminum some of them made out of zinc {D: they coated} Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh- What would you use to carry milk in? Going out to the cows 434: #1 A cooler. # Interviewer: #2 you got a- # A what? 434: A cooler. Interviewer: A cooler? You would- you would- 434: Like gallon bucket sometime we'd have five gallon- ten gallon, I mean ten bucket. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Five gallon {D: ninety got} {X} what these {D: whites} buckets you get now. Aux: {X} 434: #1 Huh? # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} 434: Huh? Aux: {X} 434: Yes. Aux: {X} 434: Yes. Aux: {X} 434: And uh Loma buckets. Aux: Yes {X} Interviewer: Have you ever heard 'em called pails? Aux: Pail. 434: That's right. Interviewer: Is there any difference between a bucket and a pail? Are they the same 434: #1 Sometimes # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: it- the pail's a pitcher. Interviewer: A pitcher. Aux: {D: No it's not} Pail is a bucket. 434: Huh? Aux: {X} Interviewer: What kind of- what kind of bucket would you keep in your kitchen maybe to throw scraps into and then carry that to the pigs, what would you 434: #1 Slop bucket. # Interviewer: #2 call- # Slop bucket? Uh-huh. Uh. What would you call the same thing that- as that except it might be bigger just to put you know trash and waste into? 434: Garbage. Interviewer: Just call it a garbage? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call uh- what do you use to fry eggs in? 434: Frying pan. Interviewer: Frying pan? Uh-huh. Would uh- would a frying pan have a round bottom or a flat bottom? 434: Well it's some of them got a round bottom and some of 'em have a flat bottom. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard a frying pan called anything else? Uh-huh. 434: Huh? Aux: How come you tell me {X} You never had none of that fryer on hand {X} 434: Well it's a frying pan. Aux: {X} Interviewer: Have you ever seen one that had legs on it? 434: I've seen them. Interviewer: What would you call that? 434: They call them ovens. They used to bake in 'em, had a long handle on it. Interviewer: Is that right? 434: Had- used to have them with the leg to it and you'd put your biscuits in it. Interviewer: Would you- would you- you'd ever seen this thing used you know like in the fireplace? Aux: That's what I'm talking about. Interviewer: Those you would use in a fireplace? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: We had one in here. And- and uh Somebody borrowed it and {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} It was ours. Interviewer: What did you call that- that big black thing that you said you were gonna uh- 434: Pot. Interviewer: cook the cat stew in? 434: Pot. Interviewer: Just a great big pot? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Have you ever heard 434: #1 Now we gots- # Interviewer: #2 that called # 434: they got {D: kilns} and they got pots well you got these great biggun's out bout this use to make syrup in it . It's called a syrup killer. Interviewer: Is that right? Aux: {X} 434: There's one out there at the well now. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you ever use these things for anything else or did you ever see 'em- anybody use it to boil potatoes in or something like that? 434: We scalded hogs in 'em. Interviewer: Is that right? Uh-huh. What uh- what would you call something that you might have in the house uh that you'd put cut flowers in? Just for an ornament? You would put the flowers in a what? {NS} What was- uh let's see did you tell me what that thing was that you kept the flowers in? 434: Flower pots? Interviewer: Alright flower pots. Would you- would you still call it a flower pot if it maybe was inside you kept it up on the mantel? For- if somebody brought you a lot of roses or something like that what would you put 'em in? 434: Vase. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What are some of the things that you set down beside your plate that you use to eat with? In the kitchen. You'd use- What? 434: Fork. Interviewer: Yeah. 434: Knife. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Spoon. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you had more than one knife you'd say you had two- 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And a knife and a fork. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And a spoon. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever seen uh uh uh- If every person had to uh ec- let's say you were having six people over to eat that's mean that you'd have to have- you'd have to have six forks and six spoons and six- What else? 434: Knife. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Well after the uh- after you eat what do you have to do to the dishes? 434: Wash 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about after- after {B} washes the dishes then she has to use clear water to do what? 434: Just rinse 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call the- the cloth or the rag that you use to wash dishes? 434: Dishrag. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about the cloth or the rag that you use to dry 'em? 434: Drying rag. Or drying towel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about y- what about the piece of cloth that you use when you bath yourself? What do you call that? 434: Bath cloth. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about w- after you get finished bathing what do you use to dry yourself off with? 434: A towel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You ever heard a towel called anything else? 434: Never have. Interviewer: What do you call the thing there at the kitchen sink that the water comes out of? 434: Spigot. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about if it was out in the yard? What would you call it? 434: You'd call it same thing {D: wouldn't you} Interviewer: Spigot? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Have you ever seen these big barrels that people uh maybe who work out on the highway use, they go up and get a drink of water and that little thing has something that 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 the water # comes out of? 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 What would you # call that? 434: Call that a faucet. Interviewer: Call that a faucet? Uh-huh. Okay. you know it's- it's getting kinda cooler out here it might get so cold that- that uh- you know if you turned on the water nothing'd come out, you'd say it might got- it's gotten so cold that the pipes had done what? 434: See the pipes filled up with ice. Interviewer: And what'd that make 'em do? 434: Bust. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. You were talking about uh just a- a lot of flour, if you went down to the store and you wanted to buy just a whole lotta flour what might it come in? 434: Bags. Interviewer: If- maybe even bigger than a bag. Somethin- 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 You know if they use to ship in # 434: come in but a barrel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Barrel. That's right. Uh. Let's see anything else any- have you ever seen anything else other than flour that's packed in a barrel? 434: I've seen meat packed in barrels. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh- have you ever bought any molasses and a lotta molasses- what would a lotta molasses be packaged in? 434: Uh well a lotta molasses would be a barrel. {X} Interviewer: A barrel? Uh-huh what about- 434: Unless you got an eight gallon bucket- several gallon buckets. Interviewer: What about lard? What would a lot of lard- 434: Well lard come in fifty pound cans somewhere. Interviewer: Is there any special name for a very large lard can? 434: Some of 'em have two hundred pounds. Interviewer: But it- 434: Some cans have a hundred pounds some cans and ol'- people's {D: already} have two hundred pounds {X} Aux: {X} 434: #1 Huh? # Aux: #2 Is there any- # Interviewer: is there any special name for a very big- have you ever heard it called a stand? Stand of lard or stand of molasses? 434: I never heard of that I always use cans Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 434: #2 you know like # uh Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And barrels they used to come in- they used to get it in barrels. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 You know if you were- # If you were gonna take some of that molasses and you wanted to pour it into a- a small little bottle what- what might you have to use to keep it from spilling all over the place? 434: Have to have a funnel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever seen people use a funnel for anything else? 434: That's right. {NS} Interviewer: Might use it to put gas in a car or something like that? 434: They use it put it draw gas outta another car and cipher it over into #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 434: they use a funnel. Interviewer: Sometimes people do that when they not supposed to, don't they? 434: That's right. Interviewer: {NW} 434: {NW} Interviewer: Oh. What do you- have you ever ridden on a buggy General? 434: Buggy? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Yes {D: I have} Interviewer: What do you call- what do you call that thing that you use to make your horses go faster? 434: Buggy whip. Interviewer: Buggy whip. Uh-huh. What about uh you know if you- if you go down to the grocery store the- the boy might put all the- what does he put all your stuff in? So that you can carry- 434: Bags. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh. Have you ever heard bo- uh that called anything else? 434: Never have. Interviewer: Just any different size bag doesn't matter- make a difference whether it's 434: #1 They plen- they're different # Interviewer: #2 small or large? # 434: size bags they Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Some big and some small. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Now you said that- that flour might not be uh might not be put in a barrel it might be put in something else. Like if it was put in something made outta cloth what would you call that? 434: Sacks? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you- what uh What different kinds are there? You know what they're- what they're made out of? 434: The sacks? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I sure don't. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Cloth some of 'em. 434: Huh? Aux: Cloth {X} get knives in the paper bags {X} {X} {X} 434: Yes they used to have it in {X} bags. Aux: Uh-huh. 434: #1 Now- # Interviewer: #2 What about uh- # 434: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # What about the type of thing that- that feed or seed or manure or something like that might come in? 434: Sacks. Interviewer: Would that be a sack too? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Would it be made- would it make- might be a- a- more rough material or coarse material? 434: You see it- it's made as coarse stuff that's fertilized. Now they getting they fertilize comes in paper bags now it used to come in cloth. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard of a croker sack? 434: They used to have croker sacks used to- use all the oats and corn and stuff like that in croker sacks. But your flour and stuff would come in white sacks. And now they go and put the flour in paper bags and they put meal in paper bags and they don't use the cloth bags no more. Interviewer: You know le- if you were gonna take some corn to the mill what would you call the amount of corn you could take to the mill at one time? 434: Bushel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Satchel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about- what would you call the amount of wood you could carry at one time? 434: Ton. They call this ton of wood. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard that called anything else? 434: Never have- Interviewer: Never have. Uh-huh. You know if- if that thing right there burned out you'd have to change the what? That's a- 434: #1 Have to get # Interviewer: #2 What would you call- # 434: a new bulb. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You- you would call it uh- It's not like a- It's not like a- a bulb that you plant but that's a- You tell the ma- 434: A light bulb. Interviewer: Yeah you tell the man at the store to get you a light bulb. 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would you use to carry out your washing to uh the clothes line? You'd have to hang it out to dry, what would you use to carry the clothes in out back? 434: Hell ask her that. Interviewer: {NW} 434: Basket. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Buckets? Carry 'em in different things now sometimes {X} a tub, put 'em in a tub and take 'em out back. But mostly they used to have buckets they tote 'em out in. But they wouldn't nothing else. Weren't no plastic bags then like they got now. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You had to tote 'em out in buckets and tubs. What would you use- what do nails come in, it might be something 434: #1 A keg. # Interviewer: #2 smaller # than a barrel. 434: They come in a wooden keg. {NS} Interviewer: What do you call those uh- that thing that runs around the barrel that holds it together? 434: Barrel hoops. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} Just kinda keeps it in place? 434: That's right. {NS} Keep it- keeps it from tearing up. If that bushel of nails comes out {NS} Interviewer: You just got a lot of nails all over the floor don't you? 434: That's right you gotta job cleaning them them hooks bust off {X} {NS} Interviewer: And when you- when you put a- some liquid into a bottle what do you put in the- the top of the bottle to keep the liquid from spilling out? 434: Stopper. {NS} Interviewer: What's that- what- what would a stopper be made out of? {NS} 434: It's made out of plastic now it used to made out of corks. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Used to be a cork stopper. {NS} Interviewer: What do you call that thing- I know that you can play guitar General. Have you ever seen anybody play this instrument you know they have to blow on 434: #1 Jew's # Interviewer: #2 through- # 434: harp. Interviewer: Kinda makes a 434: #1 And a # Interviewer: #2 sound? # 434: harp you blow into it the mouth, they have Jew's harps then they have another harp. Interviewer: What's the other kind? 434: See the Jew's harp you put it in your mouth and pick it Interviewer: Uh-huh. It kinda makes a twanging sound? 434: That's right. And these other harps you slide 'em up outta your mouth for a tube make a {NS} Interviewer: Do you- Have you ever played either one of those? 434: I've- I tried all of 'em. Interviewer: {NW} What do you call the- the thing that you use to pound nails with? 434: Hammer. Interviewer: Uh-huh. I bet you been in a lot of wagons haven't you General? 434: Tell. Interviewer: {NW} What do you call- if you have a- a wagon and two horses what do you call that- that long wooden piece that runs between the hor- 434: Tongue. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if you- you said you've ridden on a buggy too. What do you call those things that you have to back the horse between? 434: Buggy shacks. Interviewer: Buggy shacks. Uh-huh. You know when you got a uh uh the wheel on your wagon the part right inside of the middle's the hub. 434: That's right. Interviewer: And that hub turns around on the- what does it turn on? 434: On an axle. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And then from the hub you got the spokes 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 coming out # And the spokes come out and fit onto the what's the thing- 434: {D: Fit uh} Tire wagon tire up in the tire you know them spokes come from the hub and fit up in the- the wooden part where the tire is and if them spokes comes out the tire drop off and then you don't have nothing but the hub. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Sometimes the outside of the wagons wheel's made out of- of uh out of steel. 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 You say it # had a- a steel what? 434: Steel axle. A wheel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or just the- the rim of the wheel? 434: That's right, well you see they don't- the spokes don't come out of the end. Interviewer: Have you ever seen a wheel that uh you had the- the rim was in sections? What- do you know what you call 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 one of those sections? # 434: In pieces. Interviewer: Do you know what those pieces where called, do they have a special name? 434: I didn't know what the name {D: they call it} They connect them together. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard it called a filly? Never heard that? 434: Never have. {NS} Interviewer: You know what uh the uh- wh- on a wagon what do you hook the traces to? 434: Singletree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And the singletrees are connected to what if you have two horses? 434: To the doubletree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard the doubletree called anything else? 434: Never anything else. {D: I think} I guess. Interviewer: I guess you might- some people might call it a double-singletree. 434: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 434: They might. Interviewer: Oh. 434: You see it comes over that tongue and there's a hole through that tongue and that pin goes down through the tongue and this doubletree's connected on top of the tongue. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And the mule pull by this doubletr- tree and the tongue is just to hold the wagon steady. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: You unbreast it Take the breast chain and loosen the mules the wagon roll most anywhere, run over the mules if they don't get out of the way. Interviewer: That's right. If- if somebo- if somebody had a load of wood in his wagon and he was just driving along with it you'd say that he's doing what? Just got a load of- 434: Got a load of wood on his wagon. Interviewer: What's he- what's he doing with that wood? 434: Carrying it to the house for firewood. Aux: {X} Interviewer: But would you ever say he's just hauling wood? 434: That's right {X} and say he's hauling wood. Interviewer: Okay. You know sometimes when you're hauling wood you might come across a big uh log in the road and you'd say well I gotta- I gotta tie a rope ar- around that log and- 434: #1 Drag it # Interviewer: #2 do what? # 434: out the way. Interviewer: Alright that ever happen to you? 434: That's right. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {X} # {D: Plenty'd} happened to me. Interviewer: Yeah. You might say you know- if you've done that a lot of times you might be telling me well- well we've done what? We've- Aux: Go around it. Interviewer: If you had to drag a- just a lot- if you had to drag a- five times before that day you say we had a rough day 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 We- # we hadn't- we've- 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Just what? # 434: Had a rough day and had to drag things out the road before Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 we could pass. # Interviewer: That's right. What do you call that thing you use to break up the ground right at first before you plant anything? 434: Plow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did uh- After you plowed did you use anything to break up the ground even finer than that? 434: You have a disk you'd run over it and cut it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there any special name for that? 434: All I know is that disks cut it up and see the clods and things that we cut up, see this turning plow sometime turns up big sheets of stuff like this disk comes on and grind it up. Then you take the shelves and stuff and got loose dirt around {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: To plant your stuff in. Interviewer: Have you ever heard c- that called a harrow? 434: Well I've seen harrows they have {X} I've seen harrows they drag over the ground with- with a lot of teeth {X} you know Put a weight on it. Interviewer: How they- Are there a lot of different kinds of plows? 434: Sure. See there's turning plows and silverstocks they call 'em turning {X} and {D: scooters} and Sweeps. Scrapes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh- 434: Plow wings. Plow points. {NS} Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about- what would you call- have you ever seen a- a- some wood that might be shaped like an X that you might use to lay a log across to saw it? Never seen anything like that? 434: I never seen that. Aux: Yes you have. Interviewer: Alright y- you know you might lay a log across it to chop it into stove wood or something like that? 434: Oh I've had what they call a- they call that a horse. Interviewer: A horse? 434: Sawhorses. Interviewer: Sawhorses? 434: That's right well now I've had chop blocks. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: So you have a- a block of wood set up about that high and you take your stove wood and chop it on top of that chop block. Interviewer: Have you ever seen one shaped maybe in- in the shape of the letter A? That you might put on the ends to make a kind of a table out of or picnic or something like that? 434: Seems like I have seen things like that. Made tables out of- You mean the things it's made across? Interviewer: Yeah it's a- kinda shaped like that 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 you know? # 434: They got legs spread out Interviewer: #1 Right. # 434: #2 here # at the bottom. Interviewer: Right. 434: Now I've seen that. Interviewer: You never heard it called anything? 434: Well I heard 'em call it a picnic table. Interviewer: Have you ever heard- have you ever heard of a sawbuck before? Never heard of a sawbuck. Okay. Oh. You know when people get up in the morning they go into the bathroom and they have to straighten out their hair and they might use a comb to do it or they might use something else. What else might they use to fix up their hair? They might use a comb and what else? 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Got like- # 434: {D: Ain't use nothing if it's straightened.} Interviewer: {NW} 434: {NW} What'd you say? Aux: Called a brush. Interviewer: {D: You know same with-} 434: A brush? Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah. 434: Ah I just- I just said that now. Interviewer: And you- you would you're using that thing to do what to your hair? 434: Straighten it out. Interviewer: Straighten it 434: #1 get # Interviewer: #2 or # 434: the kinks out. Interviewer: Get the kinks out? {NW} Or- or just you know you say well don't bother me now I'm- what? 434: Combing my hair. Interviewer: Or- 434: Yeah. Interviewer: If you're using the thing with bristles you'd say- Aux: Brush. Interviewer: How- 434: I'm brushing my hair. Interviewer: That's right. 434: Well you see now. Brush you and it makes a difference well if you brush mine it don't look no- Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # I just go in the bedroom come out with mine Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {X} # Interviewer: There's not too much left huh? {X} 434: Ah Lord have mercy. Now when you get up this morning your hair tore all up {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: That the truth. 434: Yo hair's all messed up. Interviewer: #1 I have to spend some time in there don't I? # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # If- If you went in the bedroom come out and your wife said that she wouldn't know you. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Go back! Go back. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Might think you have a strange man in the house. 434: {X} {NW} Ah lord have mercy. Interviewer: You know you said you're- that friend of your's that came in yesterday is a barber? You reckon he has uh- does he- would he shave- does he still shave people with straight razors? 434: Not him. Interviewer: Not anymore? 434: {NW} Interviewer: #1 That might be a mistake huh? # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 Yeah I wouldn't {D: arrest him}. # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 I did {X} him in clippers. # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # See he's nervous- Nah he's- he's- His heart's bad. See I knowed him when he was young and had plenty of life about him See um Old {X} been cutting hair a long time. Long time. And this- this little girl he uh- he married I've seen her daddy bringing them to Sunday school {D: ward}. That's the reason why I've seen him while ago. {X} Now these men was leading these chillun to Sunday school and they cuss get drunk. Well now the Church of Christ spoke about you can't do that. It's a holy place. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Well you see now we got everything in our We got anything now these mens got killed yesterday is member of churches. You just think about it now, old liquor stores run by church folks. Dance halls run by church folks. Deer taverns run by church f- folks. Old sinner can't have a party a church folk give 'em and invite sinner. Now these mens is running up and down the road the other night and no doubt I'm pretty sure the white woman died. {NS} She left the hospital working And them in the road drunk and run into her. Interviewer: Doesn't seem right, does it? 434: That's right. {NS} Interviewer: Well anyway what I was talking about uh what's his name? M- mr Bob? Your friend? Well back when he used to cut hair did you- what would you call that thing- that- that big long leather thing the he sharpen tha- 434: A razor strap. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Now he shaved 'em and cut their hair too then. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Used straight razors. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You don't see those in the barber shop 434: #1 Don't see- # Interviewer: #2 downtown anymore. # 434: Don't see them nah they- that's used to all you see Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: was a straight razor. Interviewer: Yeah we were talking- you were talking bout hunting yesterday. You say uh- you'd use shells in a shotgun. What would you put in a revolver or a rifle? 434: Cartridge. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Talking bout- General when the- when you were a- a young boy did you ever play on something that uh might be you know anchored right there in the middle and the ends would go up and down? And they- 434: Flying Jenny. Interviewer: Is that what you call it? 434: That's right- now if this were a see-saw you talking about. Interviewer: Oh yeah go ahead- 434: It's going up and down this way you know. Interviewer: And you'd say the kids are doing what 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 out- # out in the backyard. 434: They see-sawing. Interviewer: Yeah. Uh-huh- 434: Well now this Flying Jenny I'm talking bout you cut a tree down Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: and split it and trim the stump and slip this over you. Interviewer: Yeah. 434: And one get on this end and one on the other then get it to going round and around, they call that a Flying Jenny ride, now that's the way children used to play. They don't do that now, they didn't have no buggies, no cars no- nothing {X} right then and they reared back and- Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Used swingers. They jump ropes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard of anything else that a- that a little- a little kid might play on that's uh- that's uh fixed at both ends you know instead of the middle and you jump up and down on the middle? Have you ever seen anything like that? Never seen anything like that? Okay. Uh. Let's see And- you know something that everybody has you know that might be suspended from a limb and you have a plank right there at the end of the rope? 434: Swinger. Interviewer: Yeah. 434: That's right. Interviewer: I bet you had one in your yard, didn't you? 434: Yeah used to have out in- {X} They got these new swingers you know and they- they call thesself {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: They go way up. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And I said now watching some little old kids in a swing and {X} some little other kids had never seen none of these what they- factory made you know it? They just went walking up to a bunch were they was scooping you know and just as you come up close enough they come back and caught 'em right under the {X} They tear that young {X} hit that fence and throw it in plastic bags. Interviewer: {NW} 434: {NW} Interviewer: #1 Oh my goodness. # 434: #2 {NW} # I bet you you see- I bet you never walk up on that {X} Interviewer: #1 I bet. # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 # 434: #2 # Interviewer: General we were talking about uh a fireplace a while ago, what would you call a- a container that you keep coal in next to a fireplace? 434: What you keep what? Interviewer: A container that you keep coal in. 434: Coal? Interviewer: Uh-huh. You ever seen one of those? 434: Ash bucket? Interviewer: Call it a- 434: Thing you put ashes in. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You have a different name for- would you have a different name for the container that you go out to the coal pile to bring stuff- some into the house? 434: Oh you talking about a scooter. Used to tote coal in. Interviewer: {D: Right.} Just a- 434: I was thinking what you - I was thinking about taking out the ashes out the #1 fireplace # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # 434: you know but- Interviewer: You call the thing that sits by the fireplace a scooter too? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: You see there's these things that you talking about they use coal for wood, they didn't tote in wood. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: But you have a bucket they call the ash bucket that take up ashes in and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: like that I- I have to take up ashes out of my fireplace. Interviewer: Was a- was a scooter round or how was it shaped? 434: It was kinda shaped with a stop to it like this you know where you could pull the stuff out. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Just hold it up over the fire and shake it in like you wanted. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 434: #2 It wasn't # round it had a made kinda- was a- stop to it on one side so you could turn- Aux: {X} And then a little bit {X} {D: holding} your bale and 434: #1 Catch the bale and catch in the side of it # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: and shake the stuff out. Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Aux: {X} Interviewer: What do you- uh {NS} 434: You would {X} Aux: {X} 434: #1 They use 'em in- # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: #1 Now we use 'em # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} I said what? I'm gonna get you a scooter I said I don't even know what a scooter- I can't use a scooter- Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # {X} Interviewer: Oh. Aux: {D: Would you've brought it?} {X} Interviewer: What do you call that- the thing that runs from the stove up to the chimney General? 434: Pipes. Interviewer: Just pipes? 434: Stovepipes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there any difference between a flue and a stovepipe? 434: That's right, see the flue is on top of the house, that's them bricks. Interviewer: Oh. Uh-huh. What do you call uh something that you might use out in the yard for yard work that has uh a small wheel in the front and two long handles 434: #1 Uh- # Interviewer: #2 and # carry 434: #1 lawnmower. # Interviewer: #2 stuff. # A long l- 434: What you cut grass with. Interviewer: Well this- this isn't uh something that you cut grass but you might- you might put cement or a bag of something in it and just haul it you know? It's got a- 434: Wheelbarrow. Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah. #1 You ever use those? # 434: #2 {NW} # I used to have 'em. Interviewer: What would you call something that you would uh use for sharpening a side? Something that you would sharpen- 434: Uh file? Interviewer: A file or it might be a little- it's a round something that you could- 434: A rock? Wet rock. Interviewer: Wet rock? Uh-huh. 434: #1 See # Interviewer: #2 What wou- # that's a grinding stone what you talking about what you sharpen axes and things with. Round. But something like this would kinda put a fine 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 edge on it? # 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {D: That's right.} Interviewer: Wha- what do you call- you know you said that you don't use uh wagons and buggies anymore people today use what to get around in? 434: Trucks Interviewer: #1 Trucks # 434: #2 and cars. # Interviewer: and cars yeah. Have you ever heard a car called anything else? 434: Never have. Interviewer: You know if- if- if you might have a- a hinge on your door squeaking there you might say you need to do what to get rid of the- 434: Grease it. Interviewer: Grease it? And if you greasing the thing and you got that stuff all a- over your hands you say you got your hands what? 434: Greasy. Interviewer: Yeah. That's a mess isn't it? 434: That's right. Interviewer: {NW} Oh. {NS} {NS} 434: Hands getting smutty. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Greasy. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: It made me re- it reminds me of a- {D: pipe} fella was telling about a- the preacher had a holy robe he- they rolled into church you know. Interviewer: Yeah. 434: {X} a light out and rolled. And said that there's a woman bragging on the preacher and another white lady said I'ma let you know what kind of preacher you got. And she taken herself and smutted it. Good and legs and put soot and just got 'em black. And she's good-looking and says soon as the light went out the preacher made it to her. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: He grabbed her legs and he feeled 'em and then he wiped his face. Interviewer: Oh no. 434: And there's a dark {X} you know and he's starts shouting and rolling and going on and he's sweating all and he just keep beating her and {D: rub all over his face} and see when the light come on {NS} folks thought a nigga had got in the meeting. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Oh whee. That there {X} 434: You {X} if I had been that preacher I'da sawed me a hole in the floor. Drop right down through it! Interviewer: {NW} That's about all he could do. 434: Had it been {X} the other night. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 # 434: #2 # Interviewer: Oh 434: #1 I wouldn't # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: want to meet them folks next day. {NW} Ah lord have mercy. Interviewer: {D: I bet.} Uh- 434: Is your mother and father living? Interviewer: {D: Uh-huh.} 434: They is? Interviewer: Both still are. They are about um- they're not very old- they're just about uh not much older than fifty. Both of 'em. I'm twenty-six. 434: Let us bless 'em. Have mothers and fathers. Only have but one. Interviewer: You remember how old you were when your folks died? 434: I reckon I was in my late twenties when my daddy died and I reckon I was around thirties when my mother died. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did they live to be very old? 434: They wasn't so old. My daddy I think was about sixty years old. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Well um- We were talking about- a minute ago about greasing things you know? Uh Is there anything else that you might use to uh- to keep a hinge from squeaking other than grease? You might have a can of what? That you could put on- 434: We'll have a- a can of oil. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {D: Pour} and keep it from squeaking. Interviewer: That'd be just about as good wouldn't it? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: You see those old wagon you was talking bout they used to have ol' grease they call wagon grease. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: You have to take the wheel off and grease it when it got to squeaking. Interviewer: What would you- what would you call that stuff that you use to burn in lamps General? 434: Kerosene? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there another name for it? 434: A lot of peoples call it oil. Aux: #1 {X} # 434: #2 Kerosene oil. # Aux: #1 # 434: #2 # Aux: And some call it coal oil. 434: Huh? Aux: #1 Coal oil. # Interviewer: #2 Ever heard it called # coal oi- coal oil? Aux: Right. 434: Some folks call it coal oil but that's proper you know. The regular old name of it's kerosene. {NW} That's right. Interviewer: What uh- Have you ever- have you ever heard of a- a kind of a makeshift lamp or a kind of a temporary lamp you might make out of a bottle and a rag and some kerosene? 434: Flambeau Interviewer: You ever use those? 434: I have. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Stick a rag down in there and light it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. That work pretty 434: #1 {D: Pick a} # Interviewer: #2 good? # 434: light over there. Interviewer: It work all right? 434: It works alright. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Works alright. Interviewer: You know the- the tires that you have on cars today, do you know what you call the inside of that tire that you fill up with air? 434: That's it. Interviewer: Do you know what it's called? 434: No I sure don't. Aux: Inner tube. 434: You ever heard it called a- the inner tube? Oh what you run inside the tire that's right, the inner tube. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} 434: I thought you was talking bout what a- the tire was made rough outside and got an inside lining in there you know, I just know it- that's- I reckon that's the way they tape it off {X} lay it smooth with this tube. Interviewer: Right. If uh- if somebody had just gotten through building a boat General they might wanna check it out they- you'd say well they gonna take it down to the- to uh the pond and they're gonna do what? What do you call it when they putting the boat in the water for the first time? You say they're gonna do what? 434: Try it out? Interviewer: Try it out or uh is there any special word that you'd use to- you know to- 434: Push it. Interviewer: Push it in or- Have you ever heard it called launch the boat? Never heard it called that? 434: I've never heard that. Interviewer: Okay. What kinda- what kinda boat would you use just to go fishing maybe in a small pond that you'd have to you know use oars on? What kind of boat would that be? 434: I don't know I can't tell much about them boats and things cuz I never been around 'em never have no dealing with 'em I used to cook for some boy scouts and I read one or two corresponds and I didn't wanna do that. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Don't like the water much huh? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Have you ever- well have you ever heard it called a rowboat? 434: A rowboat's what they call it. Interviewer: Yeah. Did uh- does a rowboat have a round bottom or a flat bottom or what? Just don't know? 434: I don't know. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Well uh there's some boys told me they got on a rowboat in the river down here. Interviewer: #1 Yeah? # 434: #2 {X} and Troy # you ever hear boys call theyself? Interviewer: Now there was a- there was a canoe race on the Pea River not too 434: #1 Now there's # Interviewer: #2 long ago. # 434: one of them rivers down {D: in river} Pea River's a big river and connector down here ain't it? Interviewer: That's right. But that was a long race. It lasted several hours. Were a lot of people in it. It was on- it was on television like you were. {NS} What uh- you know if- if a woman wants to go downtown to buy a dress and in order to make sure that she gets the right kind of material she might carry a little uh square of cloth with her to match it, what do you call that little s-square of cloth? 434: Scrap. Interviewer: Just a scrap? Uh-huh. Would you ever call it a- a sample? 434: A sample- Interviewer: #1 Sample- # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: A sample for the clothes she wanted. Interviewer: Yeah. Just a- just a sample piece of cloth? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You know if you- if you saw s- a little girl with uh- with a very becoming dress on you might say my that sure is a- what kinda dress? 434: Pretty? Interviewer: Yeah. Just a pretty dress. 434: {X} {NS} Interviewer: What would uh- what would you call that thing that {B} might wear over her dress in order to keep it from getting dirty in the kitchen? 434: Housecoat. Interviewer: Housecoat or maybe something that she could tie- 434: A row- a row- whatcha call a robe? Aux: Apron. 434: Apron? Interviewer: Yeah. Okay. And what do you- what do you call these things that uh- this thing right here that I write with? 434: Pencil. Interviewer: A pencil or if it has ink in it it'd be what? 434: Ink pen. Interviewer: Yeah. What about- what would you say that you- if you were going to put a diaper on a baby to hold that thing together you'd have to put what? 434: Safety pin. Interviewer: Yeah. What about uh- What would you drink in from a well? 434: Used to drink in a cup. A dipper. Interviewer: What was the cup usually made out of? 434: Tin. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You say uh- you know a dime is worth how many cents? What would a dime be worth, do you know? 434: Dime? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {NS} Well I don't know. Interviewer: A nick- a nickle's worth five cents and a dime would be worth what? Aux: Ten cents. 434: Ten cents. Interviewer: Yeah. Uh-huh. That's good. You know in we- in weather like this if you go outside in order to keep warm you need to wear what around you? Need to put on a big heavy what? 434: A coat. Interviewer: Yeah. I wish I'd brought one with me. 434: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # When I go back out to the car I'm gonna need it. 434: {NW} Interviewer: Yeah. If you saw- if you'll- if you saw a coat with a lotta fancy uh buttons you'd say that- that coat sure has a lotta fancy buttons- 434: That's right. well that's what we'd say- and a lotta people'd buy it on account of the buttons. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And the coat may not be {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: But you just bought it cuz it had the buttons on it. 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever seen men get- dress up real fancy and they'd have a- they'd be wearing a coat and a shirt and sometimes over the shirt they wear something else that buttons up front, what do you call that? 434: Sweater? Interviewer: A sweater or is there any other word for it? You know some- sometimes these things don't have sleeves on 'em. 434: Slip- uh what they call them? Aux: A vest. Is that what you're talking about? Interviewer: You ever uh- you ever heard it called a vest? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Don't have no sleeves. {NS} Interviewer: That's right. {NS} That is right. What do you- well if you- if you have a suit then you have a- you have a- a coat, you might have a vest and what do you wear on your- what do you wear on your legs, what do you call that? You have to- you put on your what? 434: Yeah. Underwear? Interviewer: Well no. This would be what? You're wearin- 434: Oh. Garters? #1 What you talking b- # Interviewer: #2 No just- # just this. 434: #1 Oh. # Interviewer: #2 Right- # 434: Pants. Interviewer: Yeah. 434: Pants. Interviewer: Is there any special word that you'd use for the kind that you'd work in outside? Well you- {X} there's special use {X}