434: Brush. Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: And what about- 434: Pulley bone. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: {X} {X} Interviewer: You know uh one of the- what do you- is there any special name for the larger bone on the pulley bone? The one that's bigger than the other one? No special name for that? 434: Oh and that pulley bone comes off the breast don't it? Aux: {B} Yeah. 434: Huh? Aux: Yeah. 434: Well that other part's connected to it cuz it'd be the breast. Take the breast piece of chicken. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But the pulley bone itself has you know- 434: It comes off this way. Interviewer: Yeah it has- it's #1 like two- # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: two pieces of #1 bones going together? # 434: #2 That's right. # Interviewer: #1 One's a little # 434: #2 That's right. # Interviewer: bit longer than the other one? 434: {X} Interviewer: But you wouldn't- you wouldn't have any special name for the long 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 part of it? # Why- why do children like to get that and pull it apart? 434: I don't Interviewer: #1 Any # 434: #2 know. # Interviewer: special reason? 434: I don't know, far as I can remember folks used to get that pulley bone they call it. Interviewer: Is there any kind of story maybe or superstition involved with that? 434: I don't reckon there is. Interviewer: Have you ever heard that if you- if you pull- Aux: You make a wish or something like that- Interviewer: Uh-huh. Supposedly if you- if you make a wish and it- after you pull the thing apart if you get the long part your wish will come true. Have you hea- ever heard anything like that? 434: I've heard that. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: I used to pull it in two for {X} before I married her, trying to get her. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Thought I'd win a {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: Ah. Well maybe there's something to it. What do you- General what do you call the- the inside parts of a hog that you can eat? 434: Chitlins? Aux: {X} 434: Ribs? Aux: Uh yeah. 434: Liver and light. Interviewer: What would you call all that together? 434: Well you'd call the liver and light, we'd make a hash. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And the chitlins'd having to be cleaned. Interviewer: Have you ever heard that called uh the {X}? 434: That's what that liver and light is a {X} There folks call it hash you know but the proper way is {D: haslet}. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: They cook it together with onions and pepper Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: A heart and the liver. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You- you uh- you like to eat chitlins General? 434: #1 {D: Yes sir I-} # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} Interviewer: {NW} I've heard tho- I've uh- if I've heard right those things don't smell too good when they cook do they? Aux: {X} 434: What? Chitlins? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: I cook 'em they do. 434: See if you cook 'em with the lid off #1 the scent leaves 'em. # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: But if you cook 'em in a pot and keep 'em shut up the scent is- that smell it- cooking back in 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: It made me think about a man #1 cuz they went through {D: the chitlins supper} # Aux: #2 Took 'em a long time # to get 434: #1 They- # Aux: #2 'em # 434: carried his pocket full of corn. And said that folks had a {D: fake} chitlin supper and they had {X} and said everybody just praising the chitlins to the higher and just licking them up. A- nd this man had some corn in his pocket and you know they feed the hogs off the corn so he slipped the grain of corn in his mouth. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Say {all of a sudden he's stopping. Took that grain of corn out his mouth and laid it down by his plate and went to eat the chitlin. {NW} And said people began to look and {D; say otherwise} and caught another grain of corn and lay it down there and the folk went pushing {D: back to back} {X} #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 Oh me. # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 # 434: #2 # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 Mm. # That man had his corn in his pocket made like he getting it out of them chitlins. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Ah. Well if it was uh- if it was a time of day when you heard your- your cows start mooing you know and your horses were neighing you'd say my- my goodness I did- I didn't realize it was so late it's- it's getting right on to- Aux: Feeding time. 434: It's feeding time. {D: Gotta feed them} cows. Interviewer: That ever sneak up on you before? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Feeding time before you know it? 434: That's right. Interviewer: What would you call- how would you call to cows General in order to get 'em to come up from the pasture? What would you call to 'em? 434: {NW} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Heap of times you use feed 'em and you just walk out there and holler and they f- and they know you're hollering they'll come. See you don't have to call, just walk out and say hey! and that'll be- and they hears it and you hear a cow say Moo! somewhere. Interviewer: {NW} What would you- what would you call- what would you say to 'em to make 'em stand still while you're milking 'em? 434: {D: So} Interviewer: #1 S- say it- # 434: #2 {D: Running back} # Interviewer: Say it just like you'd say to 'em. 434: {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would uh- uh let's see what would you- what would you say to 'em to- to make 'em move a leg back? 434: Back your foot {D: fan}! {NW} Interviewer: {NW} What about- what about calling a calf? How would you call a calf? 434: {NW} Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about um- what would you call to the- to uh the mules to make 'em um go left when you're plowing? 434: Gee and haw. Interviewer: What means- what- what makes 'em- means go left? 434: #1 Haw- # Interviewer: #2 You wanna go left # 434: haw is to the left Interviewer: And the right- 434: Gee's to the right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh- where- where would you call the horses if you wanted to- to get 'em up from the pasture? How would you call to them? Aux: {X} {NS} 434: Well I'd whistle, I used to whistle. Interviewer: Just whistle the horses? 434: They'd hear you whistle and they come up a- now if you hear it {NS} and you been whistling, he comes to the house and you feed him when he hear that whistling he come in. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: A lot of 'em {D: brought those} cows in. Interviewer: If you were gonna- if you were riding a horse, what would you say to him to get him started? 434: Come up. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- if he was already moving and you wanted him to go- 434: {D: Whoa}. So that I get ready for him. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Stand still! Interviewer: Uh-huh. If he- if he was already going along and you wanted him to go faster what would you say to him? Aux: {X} 434: I'd kick him in the sides. Interviewer: You wouldn't say anything? 434: #1 Just kick him? # Interviewer: #2 Just say # 434: {X} You know a lotta folks have a stud. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: When they want him to go faster they chase him with that stud, lotta people's have a switch. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And when you want him to go faster you tap him with that switch and then you just start- Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: traveling fast. Interviewer: How would y- how would you call your hogs when it's feeding time? 434: Pig. Aux: {X} Interviewer: Just say pig? Aux: {X} 434: Yeah. Aux: {X} 434: Pig pig pig pig. Interviewer: If they were- if they were a long way off would you say the same thing? 434: Same thing only louder. Interviewer: {NW} Aux: My daddy said- 434: You heard folks hollering- used to hear folks hollering from miles. Pig! Pig! Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Oh. What about- how would- I don't- Have you ever called sheep before? Or heard anybody call sheep? 434: I never heard nobody mess with no sheep. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I've seen a lot of 'em but I didn't never see none of the man that's handle them fool around with 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I don't know how he done it there now he said- {X} He can't drive 'em they- he leads 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Ho- how would you call to your chickens when you feed them? 434: Chicken. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you uh had to get your horses ready uh to go somewhere you say you need to do what to get 'em ready? If you have- 434: Hitch 'em up. Interviewer: Hitch 'em up to the- 434: #1 Buggy or wagon. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Uh-huh. 434: I even put a saddle on it. Interviewer: Would you say the same thing- would you say hitch 'em up if you were gonna plow with 'em? 434: That's right. Hitch 'em to a plow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh- when you're plowing what do you call the things that you guide the mules with? 434: Plowline. Interviewer: The plowlines? What about- 434: The bridle. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about if it's- if they're on a buggy? What do you call those things that you uh- guide with? 434: Buggy? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Buggy whip? Aux: {X} 434: Or the things that you guide them with if they're on a Interviewer: #1 buggy. # 434: #2 Oh. # Bridle? Bits? Interviewer: That's the part in the horse's mouth- 434: That's right and you put a line on the bridle and pull the- guide the horse the way you want 'em is- which in lines. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh if you're riding a horse what do you guide him with? 434: Bridle range. Interviewer: The range? Yeah. What a- what do you call those things that you put your feet in when you're riding a horse? 434: Saddle stirrup. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh if you have two horses hitched up to the wagon what's the horse on the left called? Two horses hitched up to a wagon. Is there any special name for the horse on the left? 434: Not as I know of. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard it called the lead horse? Never heard it called- 434: Now I've heard of lead horses and mules where they have four mules hooked together and they'd have two back into the- the wheel Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And two in the lead and they call them lead mules. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Okay if- if someplace- if you're going someplace and it's- and it's not right close by you say well it's not far it's just a- What? 434: Well I might say it's- It's right out there {D: Piece} or something like that. Interviewer: Just right- 434: About a mile or something from here. It ain't far. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you- if you've been traveling a long time and you hadn't finished yet you might say that you still had a- to go before dark- Been traveling a long time and you- and you still not finished, you might- you might say that well I've still got a- 434: Uh well I still got a place to go yet. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. You know if- if- if uh you're looking for something and it's- it's a very common sort of thing- it's- it's not rare at all you don't have to look for it at any special place you'd say that you can find that just about- 434: Anywhere. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If somebody uh slipped on the ice outside and you fell this way you'd say that he fell- 434: On his face. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or he may uh- or he fell uh on his face or he fell- Aux: {D: Backwards} 434: On the side? Aux: {X} Interviewer: Well if he- if he fell you know straight down like this he'd be falling which way? Now if he fell this way he'd be falling how? 434: Uh backwards he fell Interviewer: #1 But this w- # 434: #2 forward. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} Okay. If uh if you went out fishing General and somebody asked you if you caught any fish and you didn't have any- any- any luck at all you'd say no I didn't catch 434: Nothing. Interviewer: Nothing. Okay. What about uh- have you ever heard anybody say something else other than nothing? They might say I- I uh no I didn't catch I caught nothing or I caught- 434: Nothing. Interviewer: Just nothing? You ever heard anybody say they didn't catch {D: nary} one? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh you know if a- if a- if a little boy got in trouble at school and the teacher just got on to him he might say well why is she blaming me? I- What? If he didn't think he did- 434: I didn't do it? Interviewer: I didn't do anything? Okay. What about uh if somebody accidentally broke your rake that you had out in the front yard you might say well- well that's alright I didn't like it- Aux: {X} 434: Huh? Aux: You- 434: You didn't like it? Interviewer: Yeah if- if somebody broke your rake accidentally and you'd say well that's okay I didn't like it- Aux: {X} Interviewer: Would you s- ever say Aux: {X} Interviewer: Anyway or- 434: I didn't like it anyway. And you- I would say you shouldn't a done it. Interviewer: {NW} Oh. What if uh- have you ever seen a- a little child that might be crying and he'd say well my friend was eating candy and he didn't give me- 434: A piece. Interviewer: Didn't give me a piece or he didn't give me- he didn't give him one piece. 434: Didn't- didn't give me any. Interviewer: Didn't give him a thing right. Okay. If uh- Have you ever know any little children that were just really spoiled? Aux: {X} Interviewer: And you know they're- uh when- when- when he grows up you might say well that kid's gonna have his trouble if he- if you think he's probably gonna have his trouble when he grows up what would you say? Talking about this spoiled child. 434: Well that's- I'd figure his future life was ahead of him. And he {D:Unrighteousness, he's blast} to run into trouble. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Blast right into trouble? 434: That's if he- {D: if he wouldn't-} going in the right way he blast to run into trouble. Interviewer: That's the truth- 434: {D: Doesn't} mean nothing else but- Interviewer: What do you call- we were talking about plowing in the field, what do you call those trenches that are cut by the plow? In the ground? 434: {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you- if you have a real good yield uh during the season you might say well we raised a big {NS} What? {NS} 434: Raised {X} what now? Interviewer: If you got a real good yield. 434: Yeah. Interviewer: You know you might say well we raised a big- of cotton or whatever a big- 434: You raised big corp of peanuts {D: of} cotton. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What about uh- What do you call a piece of land that's just been uh- that's just- well if you go- if you got rid of all the- the bushes you know and trees on a piece of land what would you say you did to it? 434: Cleaned it up. Interviewer: Cleaned it up? Uh-huh. And if uh if you cu- if you cut 'em down to make a road through the woods let's say to a logging camp, what would you say you did? 434: Say you cut you a road to- to the camp Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: You made your own road. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there anything that you- what would you call that piece of land after you cleared it? Anything spe- 434: New ground. Interviewer: New ground? Uh-huh. What do you call uh- what do you call clover or grass or whatever when it comes up again right after you cut it? 434: Well that clover is a mighty fine {D: feed for cows} Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would you call the second cutting of clover? 434: I don't know what you'd call the second- Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you know what you'd call the uh- the just old dried dead grass that's been left over on the ground? 434: {D: That's right}. Call it hay. Interviewer: Just call it hay? Have you ever heard it called uh aftermath or lattermath? 434: I never have. Interviewer: Never heard it called that? Okay. What uh- what kinds of grain do yo- do you have besides corn? {NS} Aux: {X} 434: Well there's no other kind. Grain and that corn but you have other seeds you know? Interviewer: Like what? 434: Cotton seeds. Okra seeds. Squash seeds. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} 434: Turnip seeds, colored seeds. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: He said grass, that ain't no grass. 434: You talking about grass seeds? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Oh. Well there's a grass they call crab grass. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Then there's a grass they call uh nut grass. Interviewer: Well I'm- I'm really talking about- I guess you know just some kind of grain besides corn- 434: You talking about grain? Interviewer: Yeah. 434: Well {D: then} You ain't talking about grass you talking about grain well you see after you leave corn there ain't no other grain like- seeds like corn that winds up that now your beans seeds, don't tally with corn. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: How bout your okra- 434: And your okra seed Aux: #1 Oats! # 434: #2 don't- # Huh? Aux: Oats. 434: Oats! Interviewer: What a horse eats? 434: Now you's- you uh- you sow oats. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: That's a grain. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you- you ever seen much wheat? 434: I seen wheat and oats. And rye. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you- what do you tie up wheat up into? After you cut it? 434: Well you see they- they beat the wheat out and make flour out of it and bale the hay and feed it to something that will grind it up into {D: something else} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: See they- they- these big root farms got a thing that'll thrash out that wheat. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And they make flour out of it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever seen a- a bungle of wheat? Something like that? 434: I seen big fields of it in Jersey cuz I didn't never see 'em killing none of that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You know what they would call uh the bundles- they pile the bundles into something? You know what that's called? They take all these bundles of wheat and- and pile them into something? 434: In the barn. Aux: In stacks. Interviewer: Have you ever heard- have you ever heard a pile of these wheat bundles called a- uh called a shock? You ever heard of a shock of wheat? 434: Well I've heard of corn being shucked. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. 434: And they might shuck wheat I don't know. Interviewer: About how much- how much corn to the acre would be considered a good yield? 434: Well a acre of corn- You mean how much it would produce? Interviewer: Uh-huh, what would be considered real good? 434: You know {D: put that} around seventy- a hundred acres I mean bushels of stuff would {D: pour} sweet grain I mean fertilize- right you know it'll make put it close to seventy-five, a hundred bushels. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh If uh- if you and another man have to do some kind of job if you told him about it you'd say what d- you and- you and 434: The other fellow. Interviewer: Well let's say if you and somebody else had to do a certain job and you were telling him about it you'd say well you and- have to do this job 434: Yeah. Interviewer: You and who? 434: You and the man who Interviewer: #1 If you were- # 434: #2 {X} # Interviewer: If you were gonna have to do it too 434: Yeah. Interviewer: along with him you'd say you and- 434: And me. Interviewer: Right. 434: That's right. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 434: #2 That's right. # Me and you. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if uh- {NS} if uh- if we had to do a job together and you were telling me about it then you'd say well both of- 434: Of us. Interviewer: gonna have to do this 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 job. # Right. If uh- if some friends of yours and you were coming over to see me you'd say that uh who's coming over? And you were telling me about it. If you and some friends were coming over to see me you'd say that 434: Me and my friends'll be over to see you. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Well if you- if you went up to somebody's house and you knocked on the door and they'd say who's there and uh they know- they recognized your voice and you'd say well it's just 434: Me! Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh you know if were sitting here expecting somebody and uh a man knocks on the door you'd say ah it's only- If it's a man you'd say it's only- What? {D: Not any-} 434: I would tell him- if- if he knocked on the door I would tell him to come in. Or if I open the door I'd tell him to come in. Interviewer: Okay and when you saw him you'd say oh it's just nobody in particular- just a man, you'd say oh it's- 434: Go away? Interviewer: No would you say- Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 that's jus- just say- it's him? # Or it's just him? #1 If it's- # 434: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: a woman you'd say what, it's- 434: Man and wife. Interviewer: Well just the woman by herself you'd say it's just- Aux: Her. 434: A pair? Interviewer: Just- just one- just one 434: #1 Just one? # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Uh-huh. You'd just say it's Aux: It's {X} Interviewer: #1 It's {X} # Aux: #2 It's this. # Interviewer: It's her? 434: That's him uh the woman? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you say it's her? 434: It's- no I'd say it's him Interviewer: What if it was a woman? 434: I'd say it's her. Interviewer: Right. Okay. If it was uh- if it was both of 'em together you'd say it's- 434: Man and wife. Interviewer: Okay- Aux: {X} 434: Got two together. Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay # Would you say it's- would you say it's them? 434: I'd say them. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Now comparing how tall you are you might say well he's not as tall as- 434: As she. Interviewer: What if you're talking about yourself? 434: Yeah. Interviewer: He's not tall as 434: As me. Interviewer: That's right. {NS} And uh again if you're comparing how tall you were you might say well I'm not as tall as- 434: As he. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Well if you were talking about how well you can do something you might say well he can do it better than- 434: Me. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You know if somebody's been running for about two miles and then he had to stop you say well two miles is his- 434: Limit. Interviewer: It's his limit. About as far as he could go- 434: That's right. Interviewer: Okay. Now if somebody- if something belongs to me you'd say that it's- you'd say that it's- 434: {D: It's} It's your's. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if it- if it belongs to both of us you'd say it's- 434: It's your- both of you. Interviewer: #1 No both of us- it would b- # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 # Aux: #2 # Interviewer: If it belonged to 434: Both of y'all? Interviewer: Us together 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: I wouldn't know how to fix that. Interviewer: Would you say uh Aux: {X} Interviewer: would you say it's ours? 434: It's ours. Interviewer: Yeah if it belonged- 434: Now that'd be the thing I'd say it's ours Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about if it- if it belonged to a group of people over there. If it belonged to them you'd say it's- 434: It belonged to them over there. Interviewer: Okay. If it uh if it belonged to him you'd say well that's not mine it's 434: It's his. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If it belonged to a woman, that's not mine it's- 434: It's hers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. If uh- if somebody's come to visit you and they're just about to leave you might say well come back again 434: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you were talking to- if you were talking to just one person you'd say well if I was about to leave and you wanted me to come back again sometimes what would you say to me? 434: Come back. Interviewer: Okay if you were talking to several people and you wanted them to come back again what would you say to them? 434: I'd say you all come back. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh. Now let's see if- if somebody's car was out on the road and it belonged to several people you know you might say to them well you better not leave it there because somebody's going to run into 434: Run into my car. Interviewer: Alright if it belonged to a group of several people what would you #1 say? # 434: #2 Yeah. # I'd say it belonged to well a certain group of peoples- Interviewer: Well- 434: The car was {D: drawn to}? Interviewer: Say there are three people sitting out there and the car belongs to them and you might tell them well you- uh get that car off the road because somebody's gonna run into- 434: To your car. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard anybody- you know I heard you say you all minute ago, have you ever heard anybody say uh you all's or y'all's? Would you ever use that word? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Would you say y'all's 434: Y'all- Interviewer: Would you say you better uh somebody's gonna run into y'all's 434: #1 Y'all's # Interviewer: #2 car? # 434: car is uh- well if two or three of them are sitting there was on the car I wouldn't know which one it was I'd just say y'all's car. Interviewer: That's right. Yeah. Uh If you were- If there'd done a party going on somewhere and you were asking about the people at the party you might say well if you wanted to know who's been there what would you say? If you want to know about all of 'em? How would you ask me that? 434: Now that's who all is at the party. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Speaking about all of 'em together? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if you were asking about uh what somebody said and you wanted to know everything that he said, what would you say? What would you ask? 434: What did he say about so and so something like that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you ever say what all did he said? 434: Yeah heap of times. Say what all did he said. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Well if you could remember all that he said you- you might tell him what you if you couldn't you couldn't, could you? Interviewer: That's right. {NW} Oh If uh if no- if nobody else will look out after them you have to say that they have to look out for 434: Theyself. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- if nobody else will do it for him you'd say that he ha- he'd better do it- 434: He have to do it hisself. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # Aux: #2 {D: For himself} # Interviewer: #1 # Aux: #2 # Interviewer: Uh. You know anything much about bread General? What's kinds a- what kinds of uh bread do you- do you know about? Different kinds of bread. 434: Cornbread. Biscuit. Light bread. Interviewer: What do you call uh- are there- do you know of any different types of cornbread? {NS} 434: I know of some kind they call- Aux: {X} 434: {X} Corn meal. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of something like uh {NS} the kind that doesn't have anything in it except corn meal, salt, and water? Do you know what that is? 434: Sure don't. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 434: #2 Trying to # Aux: #1 You don't. # 434: #2 think. # Interviewer: Corn meal- 434: What? Corn meal- Interviewer: Just has corn meal, salt, and water in it. 434: That's what's called plain corn bread. Interviewer: Just plain corn bread? 434: Yes you see you don't have {X} it up. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you ever- do you remember any kind of corn be- bread that uh people talked about making in front of the fire on a board? Or something like that? 434: I've heard of ash cakes in the fireplace wrapped up in ashes now I never heard of no cooking on a board. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard of these things that are- that are kind of small and- and round-shaped and they have a little onion and green pepper in 'em and you might eat 'em with fish? Aux: Hush puppies. Interviewer: You ever had any hush puppies? 434: I've had that plenty of times. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 434: #2 Hush puppies. # Aux: Yeah they bring {X} 434: Say you put pepper in 'em? Aux: Uh-huh. What about- have you ever heard of something that you might uh boil in- in cheese cloth along with beans or greens or uh something with chicken made out of cornmeal? You ever heard of that? Don't know what that is? Uh-huh. What about uh- have you ever heard of the type of cornmeal that you cook in a real deep pan {NS} and it comes out real soft and you dish it out like you might dish out potatoes? Have you ever heard of that? 434: I've seen it. Interviewer: You've seen it? But you don't know what it is? 434: I- I- they call it- egg bread don't they {X} Aux: You can cook egg bread or- 434: And it runs over. Aux: You can cook- 434: And the- #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: something other end of the {X} something in it will shrivel up and run over the pan. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do your- have you ever heard of corn dodger? 434: Corn dodgers? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I've heard them put in a {D: ton} of greens. Interviewer: It's just something to cook along with your greens? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You know there're generally two kinds of bread there's a- the type of- there's homemade bread and then there's the kind of bread that you buy at the store, what's that called? What would you call that? Not homemade bread, there's nothing like {D: there for me} homemade bread and- and what else? 434: Well this light bread come out the store, don't it? Aux: At the store. Interviewer: Well would you just call it- would you ever call it uh bought bread? 434: That's right, that's what it oughta be called. Bought bread. Aux: #1 {X} # 434: #2 They bought all of it # Huh? Aux: Loaf. Interviewer: Just a loaf of bread or something like that? What do you call uh something that's- that- that's fried in deep fat and it has a hole right in the center of it? Aux: Donuts. 434: Donut. Aux: Uh-huh. {D: I could eat them things} {NW} Interviewer: Is there any other name for a donut you've ever heard of? What about if you- if you had a- if you just uh took a lump of this donut dough and you- you put it without making a hole in it is there any special name for that? 434: I think they'd call that a biscuit. Interviewer: Just a biscuit? 434: It's a biscuit with no hole in it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Now I {X} I thought they cut that hole in there, don't they? That's right. Usually do. What do you call something that you- you know you make up a lot of batter and then you- you might th- fry three or four of these at a time you know you pour 'em out into the frying pan, what would you call those? You might eat 'em with syrup and butter. 434: Pancake. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of pancakes called anything else? 434: That's right nothing else but pancake, lotta folk call 'em batter cakes. Interviewer: Batter cakes? Uh-huh. Would- would pancakes always made- be made out of wheat flour? 434: Out of good flour and eggs. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would it ever be made uh- uh would part of it ever be made out of cornmeal? Would it still be a pancake? Aux: Yes. 434: I think they make it out of sweet-meal, don't they? Aux: You said you put your meal in {X} and then you make wa- waffles? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I don't want no meals in my pancakes. Interviewer: {NW} You just want it with flour huh? 434: That's right. Aux: {X} Interviewer: Talking about flour, about how much flour comes in a big sack? 434: Sometime they get forty-eight pound, twenty-five pound Interviewer: Uh-huh. Talking- 434: Them bigguns is forty-eight pounds. Interviewer: What do you call that stuff that you use to make bread rise? 434: {X} Interviewer: What do you call the stuff that you use to make bread rise? 434: Soda. Interviewer: #1 Soda? # Aux: #2 Baking # powder. Interviewer: Okay. Aux: {X} Interviewer: Alright. You know it might come in a little package and it's kinda dry? #1 Something like that? # Aux: #2 Yeast. # Interviewer: #1 # Aux: #2 # Interviewer: Did you ever call it yeast? 434: Yeah {X} They use that for light breads {X} use it in biscuits and Aux: {D: I don't think}- 434: #1 She use it in rolls. # Aux: #2 {X} # Rolls {X} Interviewer: What- what do you call the inside part of an egg? 434: Egg. Interviewer: Yeah the inside part. 434: {NW} Let's see. Interviewer: you know there are the two parts of an egg, one part's the- one part's the white the other parts the what? Aux: {X} Interviewer: I think he's- What the in- what you call the inside part of an egg you know the one parts the- 434: Yellow? Interviewer: Yeah. Right. Okay. If you- if you talking about eggs- if you cooked 'em in hot water what would you call 'em? 434: Boiled. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about if- if you cracked 'em open and let 'em fall into the- 434: Poached Interviewer: hot water- 434: egg. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would you call the type of- of meat that you might boil with greens? 434: Fat back. Interviewer: Fatback? What if it- what if it didn't have any lean on it? Would you still call it fatback? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What if it had a whole lotta lean on it? 434: You'd still call it fat Interviewer: #1 you ever # 434: #2 back # Interviewer: call it fatback? Okay. When you- when you cut off- when you cut the side of a hog what do you call it? What's that you're cutting off the side? 434: Middling? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Hams? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Shoulders off of this sides. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or that- that stuff- the thin sliced meat that you might eat at breakfast? 434: #1 That's- # Interviewer: #2 What's that? # 434: Call that your bacon, that's middling. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever- would you ever call uh that somebody had smoked meat? 434: That's right. Interviewer: If you eat with breakfast? 434: See you cure it hang it up and smoke it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And you go in smokehouse and cut you down a piece for breakfast. It's good eating too. Interviewer: You know you- you see some bacon that- that uh what is it that you have to cut off on the edge of the bacon before you- 434: Skin. Interviewer: Just the skin? Do some people try to eat that? 434: You can eat it if you fry it right Interviewer: Is that right? 434: That's right. Aux: {X} Interviewer: What do you call- what do you call the stuff that you- you grind up and- and you season and then you stuff it into a a casing something 434: #1 Sausage? # Interviewer: #2 like that? # Uh-huh. What- what would you call the man who sells meat? 434: Meat man. Interviewer: Just a meat man? Would you ever call him a butcher? Aux: Butcher. 434: Well I call the man that killed the hog the butcher Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: The one that do the cutting up and killing is the butcher. But the man that bootlegs out, he's the meat man. Interviewer: {NW} Ah. If- if you kept meat too long you might say what happened to it? You kept it too long and you can't eat it anymore? 434: Well it had- Aux: Rank. 434: get so rank 'til you couldn't eat it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Then you had to throw it away Interviewer: You just got a whole lotta- 434: That's right. Aux: Waste. Interviewer: #1 You ever call it # 434: #2 Waste. # Interviewer: spoiled meat? 434: That's right, it didn't spoiled it just got {X} dry and- and strong you couldn't eat it, it'll get to where it gets so strong that- it- it makes- after it get like that you boil turnips and collards with it and it's- it puts the flavor to that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What i- what do you call the stuff that you make by cooking and grinding up hog liver? 434: Hog livers? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever cooked 'em? You know, grind 'em up and cook it? Aux: {D: Liverwurst}. 434: What's it called that, we made some of it. Interviewer: Did you ever call it uh liver sausage? 434: They might have called it liver sausage they season it kinda like they do sausage. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you ever make anything out of hog blood? Aux: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 Somebody's- # somebody's tried to do something with the- I ain't. {NS} {D: Never fooled with the blood). Interviewer: You ever heard of uh blood sausage or blood pudding? 434: I never #1 did. # Interviewer: #2 Stuff like that? # Aux: {X} Hey you kids want some hog? {X} 434: Yes. Aux: {X} Those have blood in 'em. A blood pudding, I said I don't wanna see that. {NW} Interviewer: {NW} 434: See you can't- you can't say the blood out of a hog was nothing {D: best years} at a slaughter pen. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you- you kn- you know yesterday we were talking bout head cheese? Did you ever take the- the juice from the head cheese and stir it up with cornmeal or maybe some hog meat and cook it? And then after it gets cold, slice it up and fry it? 434: Well that's what we call a Aux: {X} 434: sauce. Aux: {X} Interviewer: That would just be the sauce? 434: You see you- you take that and slice it and fry it and eat it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: With cornbread. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard of scrapple? 434: Sausage? Interviewer: Just scrapple. 434: Scrap meats? Interviewer: Scrapple. 434: Sc- I never Interviewer: #1 Never heard of that? # 434: #2 heard of that. # Interviewer: Or cripple? Scrapple or cripple? Never heard of that? Okay. If you- if you kept your butter too long and it didn't taste good, how would you say it tasted? 434: I'd say it tasted bad and rank. Interviewer: Rank? Would you ever say it might be rancid? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Just rancid? Uh-huh. What do y- what do you call thick sour milk that you keep around that you can use? 434: Buttermilk. Sourmilk. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard it called clabber? 434: I've seed it. Clabber that's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you know what you can make out of the clabber? 434: Nothing but biscuits. Interviewer: Biscuits? 434: Drank it. Make bread out of it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You know some people- you put this on salads. It's kinda white looking stuff- 434: That's right. Interviewer: What do you call that? The stuff that uh you might put it on a green salad or fruit salad or something like that? Aux: Mayonnaise? Interviewer: It's- it's not mayonnaise, it's kind of a it's uh- Aux: Cream? Sour cream? Interviewer: Not exactly it's- it's more of a- of a solid substance {D: in there} you know uh- you ever had any cottage cheese? Aux: {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Sure have. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: I have- you going to sleep again? 434: No I ain't. Interviewer: {NW} Uh General after you got through milking the cows what was the first thing that you had to do with the milk to get all the dirt and impurities out of it? 434: {X} Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 After- # Once the milk was in the pail what did you have to do- 434: Strain it. Interviewer: Yeah. And that'd get rid of all the dirt. 434: That's right. Interviewer: And impurities? Have you ever had anything after you've finished a main meal a kind of a dessert you know? It's uh- it's not exactly like a pie but it's uh it's baked in a deep dish you know and it has uh- migh- maybe made of apples with a crust on top. What would you call that? 434: Apple pie. Interviewer: Apple pie or- If it's not exactly a pie- maybe it might be thicker than a pie you know? 434: Yeah. Interviewer: Or uh except you know it might have uh several layers of fruit. Would you call that anything except a pie? Maybe a- made out of peaches or apple and it's not exactly a pie? 434: Well I {X} and I always did call that- Aux: {X} 434: Dessert. Interviewer: Yeah. 434: After you eat your meal that is special afterwards you know? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Have- would you ever call it uh apple cobbler? Aux: {X} Interviewer: #1 Never- # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: I didn't- {X} Interviewer: Not apple cobbler? Okay. Aux: That's what it was. Interviewer: Well if somebody has a real good appetite- really likes to eat you might say {NW} Look at him he sure likes to put away the- 434: Food. Interviewer: Put away the food? 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 Have you # ever heard anybody say He sure likes to put away his {D: vitals}? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. I think we had that in common. 434: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} Talking about uh some things to eat you might be eating a pudding or something like that and some people have this sweet sauce that uh they like to pour over the pudding. Uh would you just call that a sauce? Or would you call it anything else? 434: Well that's all I'd call it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would you call anything that you'd eat between meals? Say you're just gonna have yourself a what? 434: Lunch. Aux: Snacks. Snacks. Interviewer: Something- 434: Snack. Interviewer: Just a snack? 434: It's a snack between meals. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What- what time do you have your breakfast usually? 434: What do I have for breakfast? Interviewer: What- what time do you have it? 434: What time? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Around seven-thirty. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And you might say yesterday at that time I had already done what? 434: #1 Eat. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Uh-huh. If you're through with your breakfast #1 and you might # 434: #2 That's right. # Interviewer: say last week I- Last week I 434: Had my meals at seven thirty. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. If you- if you don't wait- if your- if your hot and you just got in from doing some work you might be real thirsty what would you drink probably? 434: Drank water. Interviewer: Right might have a glass of- 434: That's right. Cold water. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would- what would you uh What- what was the thing that you drank it out of at the table? You'd usually drink it out of- 434: A glass. Interviewer: A glass? Uh-huh. Do you have uh- is there any particular name for a glass that might be taller than an ordinary glass? Aux: #1 {X} # 434: #2 {X} # Now there's glass they call gob- goblet or what they call them? Aux: {X} 434: It ain't- it- some of them might- there's water at the top but some of them ain't much taller. Aux: Uh-huh. {X} Interviewer: If- say if I if somebody asks you how much you drink you might say well I- a lot of it. I do- 434: I don't know I drink about a quart. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And then we- if I- after I ask you you might turn around and ask me well how much do- 434: How much do you drink? Interviewer: Yeah. I drink a lot too when I get hot. 434: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} 434: {NW} Interviewer: What would you say to somebody who's sitting around- who's standing around the table and the dinner's ready and it's on the table but what would you say to him? Well go ahead and- 434: Help yourself. Interviewer: Well before they help theirselves they- they- if they're standing up you tell 'em to do what? 434: Have a seat. Interviewer: Okay. Would you say the same thing to a- a stranger as you would to a- a close friend? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Still tell 'em to say- 434: That's right. Interviewer: You'd still have a seat? Uh-huh. Okay. So after they sat down if no one else was sta- was standing you would say that they had all- 434: Sit down. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh there's some potatoes on the table and you don't want somebody to wait until the potatoes are passed to 'em you might say well go ahead and do what? 434: Go ahead and reach? One. Get you one. Interviewer: Or maybe go ahead and help yourself? 434: Help yourself. Interviewer: Uh-huh. So- So if you did you'd say he went ahead and 434: Help theirself. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And since he had already- I asked him to pass 'em over to me. I asked him to pass 'em to me after he had already- 434: {D: Had one of 'em} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Well if you sitting down to eat and you decide that you don't want to eat something if somebody passes it to you you'll say I don't- 434: {D: No thank you} Interviewer: No thank you? 434: I don't want 'em. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 434: #2 I don't eat- # I don't like that or something like that. Thank you. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or I don't care for any of that? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. What do you call- if uh- if some food has been cooked and served a second time what do you call that? You say it's been what? 434: I don't know. Leftover. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you- would you say if- if you had something more than you could eat on Sunday maybe on Monday you'd eat it and you would say that you're having what? Aux: Leftovers. Leftovers. Interviewer: If you- if you had a meal on Sunday you know 434: Yeah. Interviewer: And you couldn't eat all of it on Sunday you might have it on Monday- and you say that your- on Monday you're having- 434: Leftover. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Pretty much the same thing? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. After you put your food in your mouth you begin to do what? 434: Chew. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Sometimes some meats so tough it's about all #1 you can do to it, isn't that right? # 434: #2 {NW} # I spit it out. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} Sometimes it's uh- you might say that uh- have you ever had your throat real sore and it was so sore that it took everything you could do to- 434: Well I have never had it that bad. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: #1 I've had something- # Interviewer: #2 You could- you could barely do # what? You could barely do what it was so swollen? Aux: Swallow. Or- 434: Swallow. I couldn't swallow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Well ah you take your time about swallowing then. Interviewer: {NW} That's right, you might get so choked up- 434: That's right. Interviewer: General have you ever taken some corn meal and boiled it maybe with some salt and water and eaten it that way? We- what would you call something like that? Have you ever seen anybody eat anything- 434: I ain't never seen it but I hear them call it {D: kush}. Interviewer: Is that right? 434: #1 Well if # Interviewer: #2 I wonder what it t- # 434: you boil meal and salt Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: together. Interviewer: Uh-huh. I wonder what it would taste like, it doesn't sound too good- 434: I ain't never tasted- Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} 434: You know folks- they hear peoples eating different ways people- something that me and you couldn't stand some folks loves. Interviewer: That's the truth. 434: Good {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. My- uh my brothers real peculiar about what he'll eat, he just won't eat some things. {D: Ah he'd tell you} one of 'em uh I think it's Phillip just won't eat squash. And I just love the stuff. But he won't touch it. 434: {D: He won't?} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Just doesn't love it. Don't know why. Tal- talking about squash and you know carrots and peas and- and beets and that sort of thing what would you call all that? Those are all what? 434: Food? Interviewer: They're food but it's not like meat, they're all- 434: Different- {X} Squash you said? Interviewer: Yeah squash or beans- 434: Vegetables- Interviewer: Yeah they're all vegetables. 434: That's right. Interviewer: If you raised them- if you raised 'em at home what would you call 'em? Instead of buying them at the store you- you'd say I'm having- Aux: {X} Interviewer: You know these are the ones that you've raised outside, out back somewhere, you didn't buy 'em from the store. Would you call 'em anything different? 434: I would. Fresh vegetables. Interviewer: #1 Just fresh vegetable? # 434: #2 Vegetables. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you ever call it homegrown vegetables? 434: Well that's- that's what it ought to be homegrown Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: stuff. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: See you grow that at your place you don't know where this come from. Interviewer: That's right. What would you call a- a small place near your house where you grow your vegetables? You say you're gonna go out 434: #1 Garden. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Work in the garden. Uh-huh. What's the- the kind of food that you usually have uh you might have with your breakfast, you might have it with sausage and eggs and it's uh- it's made out of whole grains of corn. after the outside cover's been removed. 434: Whole grains of corn? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: You know these. 434: What? Aux: Huh? {X} 434: No he {X} Interviewer: What are you talking about? 434: {X} Interviewer: Okay- well that- I wanted to ask you about that too. Have you ever eaten any of that? 434: #1 Sure # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: You? Interviewer: Oh yeah. {NW} Aux: {X} Interviewer: #1 Yeah I like- # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: {D: He's doing it to me.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Well I see it. {X} Interviewer: Okay. Now some people when they eat meat they might have uh mashed potatoes or something with the meat and some people might have something else. What- what might you have other than mashed potatoes with meat? To go with it? 434: Bread is what I prefer. Interviewer: Might have bread. 434: That's right. Interviewer: This is uh- what other kind of- of starchy food might you have? Uh this- this is grown in Louisiana a lot. You know what I'm talking about? White stuff that you might put gravy over? Aux: Rice. {X} 434: What? Aux: Rice. 434: Rice and grits? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What uh- we were talking about this yesterday you know you were talking about those two fellows who were in that wreck. And you said they were both probably drunk. What- what kind of alcohol do you suppose they were drinking? You think it was- alcohol bought at the store or something else? 434: I think this was something they made. Interviewer: What would you call that? 434: Rum. Interviewer: Rum? {NS} Uh-huh. {NS} Is that what you would uh- usually call that kind of cheap whiskey? 434: That's right. Interviewer: The homemade stuff? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Call it rum. Uh-huh. If it's- have you ever heard of this kind of homemade whiskey that hasn't been distilled? So it wouldn't be so high-powered? Have you ever heard anything like that? Uh-uh. Have you ever- have you ever heard the- the- the word splo? What does that mean? 434: Well explode it's- it's like a lamp or something would explode. With fire. Interviewer: Well I- I don't know I think this means some kind of uh whiskey or alcohol, it's just called splo. You ever heard of that? 434: I ain't never heard of that. Interviewer: Never heard of that? Okay. 434: {X} Interviewer: If- if {B} was in the kitchen and she's cooking something and it- and it makes a good impression on your nose you might say {NW} just- that sure does- 434: Smell good. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Talking about eating breakfast uh what do you call that stuff that you make out of cane- you know you crush 434: #1 Sugar? # Interviewer: #2 the cane? # Uh-huh. Is there any other type uh might not necessarily be syrup, might be thicker than syrup? {NS} What would you call that? 434: Syrup cakes? Interviewer: Uh. Ah well it looks likes syrup except it just might be thicker and richer. 434: Oh. Look like syrup? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Jelly. 434: That's jelly, you cut it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Would you- would- would you use- ever say uh that molasses and syrup are the same thing? 434: That's right. Well that's what peoples call it molasses and some call it syrup. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. If that- if the molasses was- was really thick you might say that- that molasses 434: Is too thick. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. If- talking about the syrup again what kind of syrup do you like? Do you like uh maple syrup or cane syrup- 434: I like cane syrup. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if that- if that syrup wasn't- wasn't imitation syrup it's you- you'd call it what? It's not imitation it's- 434: It's {X} It's real syrup. Interviewer: Real syrup or you might say it's uh Aux: {D: pew} syrup. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Alright would say it's a gen- Would you say it's genuine syrup? 434: That's right, I reckon that's what it would be {D: right} for it to be genuine syrup. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. If- if sugar isn't packaged but it's just weighed straight out of the barrel you'd say that that- how would you say that sugar's being sold? It's not being sold packaged but it's sold how? 434: Pound. Interviewer: By the pound or- 434: By the pound. Interviewer: Alright would you ever say it's being sold in- in bulk? Bulk sugar? 434: Ah that's right it'd be bulk sugar. Interviewer: Or just- 434: In- in uh- in pound packages. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Alright. Would you ever say it's just being sold loose? If it's just straight out of the barrel? 434: That's right. Well you see they used to weigh it out of the barrel but- Interviewer: Uh-huh. But it's all packaged now- 434: That's right now they pack- {D: they got it} in packages now. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you have on your kitchen table that you use to season your food with? 434: Salt. Interviewer: Anything else? 434: Salt and pepper. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If there's a bowl of fruit on the table and after you got finished with your meal somebody might hand you the bowl and it might have a- apples and peaches in it and they might say well why don't you have a peach? And you say well no thank you but uh why don't you give me- 434: Orange? Interviewer: Well if- if you just had- if you just had peaches and apples in it, you don't want a peach well you say well give me- 434: An apple. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You like apples General? 434: I like 'em. Scrape 'em with a spoon. Interviewer: Is that right? If uh- if somebody said to you well it- it wasn't these boys right here it must've been one of- 434: The others over there. Interviewer: Okay. If uh if you was trying to- if you were trying to tell somebody where somebody lived you'd say well he doesn't live here, he lives 434: Over yonder. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if you were trying to tell somebody how to do something you might say well don't do it this way- don't do it that way do it- 434: This way. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh if somebody was talking to you and you didn't hear what he said what would you say to him? 434: What you said? Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh if a man has a lotta money he doesn't have to worry about too much but you might that life's hard on a man- 434: Hard on a man when he's Interviewer: Life- life's pretty easy for a man who has a lot of money but it's not easy for a man 434: Well it- it don't have the money? Interviewer: That's right. 434: Heap of times it's- it's easier on the man that don't have the money {X} Interviewer: How would that be? 434: A man said a man the man who had plenty of money he say he can't sleep at night {X} Scared somebody gonna rob the bank, get his money. Interviewer: That's a good point. 434: {NW} Interviewer: What do you- what would call the place where uh a lotta fruit trees grow? 434: Orchard. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if uh you might ask somebody, if you're looking at an orchard you might ask the man if- if he's the one who owns the orchard he say- he might say no I'm just a neighbor. He's the man- 434: That owns the orchard. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Now somebody might tell you well when I was a boy my father was poor but next door was a boy 434: He was rich. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} Think- think you'd ever be as happy rich as you are now General? 434: {NW} Would not be in hap- if I was rich? Interviewer: Do you think you would? 434: I don't know whether I would or not. Interviewer: I thought about that myself a lot. 434: Yeah you see richness don't hurt nobody now, it ain't no harm to be rich. But it's harm- where the harm come at you let your money get between you and god. Interviewer: Yeah y- that's a good point. 434: Yeah. Interviewer: We were talking about uh fruit a minute ago General, what kind of fruit uh do you have around here? 434: Plums. Blackberries. {NS} Interviewer: Anything else that uh- 434: {X} they have {NS} Aux: Pea- 434: Grapes. Aux: Pears. 434: Huh? Aux: Peaches and pears. And apples. 434: Yeah. And grapes. Apricots. Aux: {X} 434: Pears. Aux: Uh-huh. {NS} {X} English walnut trees. Interviewer: {D: The what?} Aux: The English walnut tree. Interviewer: Hmm. Aux: {D: They pick 'em all night you know?} {X} Oh please General {X} 434: No I ain't- Interviewer: No he's not. He's not asleep. 434: {X} please General. {X} You know what I say? Yeah you talking about that English walnut tree. Aux: Yeah. 434: Never did none come on it did it? Aux: Yes it did. {X} Interviewer: I don't think I know what that is, what do they look like? Aux: {D: You know they sell 'em} for Christmas you get them round things? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Bust 'em? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} 434: You seen them others, them black one they call 'em nigger {X} Aux: #1 The # Interviewer: #2 Oh! # Aux: {D: zerim} nuts {D: you know} Interviewer: Oh oh. A kind of nut. I think I know what you're talking about. 434: You know what we're talking about now don't you? Interviewer: I think so. 434: Yeah. Interviewer: I think #1 so- # 434: #2 She's- # gonna have about that long to- {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. That's a k- 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 kind of nut? # Aux: {X} 434: Folks used to call 'em nigger {X} {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Oh me. General if- you might be eating a cherry pie and you might accidentally bite down on something that might break a tooth in a cherry pie, what might that be? 434: Seed. Interviewer: The seed of the cherry? 434: That's right. Interviewer: That ever happen to you before? 434: I ain't never- I ain't never- I don't hardly ever eat no cherry pie. Interviewer: Well you probably eat more peaches, what do you call that hard thing in- on the inside of a peach? 434: Peach seed. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about- you know there- I think there are two different kinds of peaches, there's the peach that you have to cut the seed out of. You know the meat's real 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 tight against it. # 434: #1 Clare- # Interviewer: #2 What do you- # 434: seeds and the prince. Interviewer: The other type you can just- 434: That's right. See there's one kind you can just open it and the seed just fall- just take the seed out and the other kind you have to cut it out. Interviewer: Wha- what's the name of the kind that you can get out real easy? 434: Clearseed. Interviewer: Uh-huh and the other one's are called 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 what? # 434: Prince. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Prince. Well- Interviewer: After you've eaten an apple what's left? 434: The core. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard of anybody cutting up apples or peaches and then- and then drying 'em? What do you call that? 434: Applesauce. Aux: Uh-uh. Interviewer: No I mean- I mean you know just taking the apple and cutting it up into slices and letting those slices dry. You might do the same thing for a peach. 434: Oh. Interviewer: You know what that's- 434: Dried apples and dried peaches. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard the word- the- the word snits? 434: #1 Never heard it # Interviewer: #2 Never heard that? # 434: that way. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. What do you call- we were- talk- you were talking about nuts a minute ago. This is a real familiar kind, the kind that you pull up out of the ground and dry and roast. What are those called? 434: What is this? Interviewer: A kind of nut. 434: Peanut. Interviewer: Yeah. Peanuts. 434: Yeah. Interviewer: What about uh- what other nut- kind of nuts do you have around here? 434: Around here it's Spanish and Spanish peanuts and {D: running} peanuts. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about other kinds of nuts other than peanuts? 434: Now I know- known a hickory nut. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about the ones that tree out there? 434: That's pecan. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard of uh any other kind that might be kinda long and uh- and uh flat-shaped? Aux: Chest- 434: Hickory nut? Aux: Chestnut. 434: Chestnut? Nu- nu- you know that chestnuts ain't long. Aux: Yes they are, they ain't too long but they long. You know peanut {D: almond nut} {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {D: little shells} {X} Interviewer: What about one that's- that's kinda round with a real hard covering? Aux: Walnut. Interviewer: Not a peanut but what? 434: #1 Let's see what would that be? # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: Grow outside the ground? Interviewer: Uh-huh on a tree. It grows on a tree like a pecan. 434: Hickory nut. Interviewer: Okay. What about walnut? 434: Walnuts. Aux: {X} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # Aux: #2 {X} # That's good {X} Interviewer: What do you call that hard covering around a walnut? 434: I- they call it a shell. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh when a- when a walnut falls off the tree you know it has a kind of soft covering around it 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 and you can wait # 'til it dries and it breaks off. What do you call that? Would you call that the shell? 434: That's the shell. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: It- it- you have take that shell off to crack the walnut. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there a different part of the- of the nut that's any different from the shell? That's the covering? Would you ever say it has a hull on it? 434: Well I- I wouldn't {D: notice} Aux: Yes you do have a {D: hull} you gotta pick that meat out- 434: Well you call it a hull before it dries. Aux: How about after you- after it dry and you bust that hickory nut. You got to go round in there and get you- the {D: goody} what is that? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: if there ain't- 434: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: the same thing as a peanut you got to crack the peanut to get {X} Aux: But you gotta do that one time with a peanut. But you got to get the hull off of the hickory nuts. And then {X} and bust that hickory nut and go down there and get your {D: goodies}. 434: Well you see them old hickory nuts don't have the hull on them. They shell out and drop right on the ground, and you up that tree, they be laying around on the #1 ground? # Aux: #2 I know # they be dried {X} some of 'em fall off and some of 'em fall off of the hulls. Interviewer: {NW} Aux: {X} Interviewer: {NW} Oh General, what do you call that fruit that uh a lot of it grows in Florida? 434: Oranges? Interviewer: Yeah. Uh if uh if you had some oranges this morning but right now you'd say they're all-