Interviewer: {X} Alright last thing I said was uh you might have had a lot of oranges this morning but you ate 'em all and now you'd say they're all- 434: All gone. Interviewer: Yeah. What do you call the the real small red covered uh root vegetable that you eat raw? It's kinda spicy. 434: Radish. Interviewer: A what? 434: Radish? Interviewer: Yeah right. You like those things? 434: I like 'em pretty good. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call uh- a red vegetable that grows on a bush? Might use it- cut it up and use it in salad or something like that. Make ketchup out of it. Aux: {X} Interviewer: {D:Hell} a red ve- vegetable. 434: On a bush? Interviewer: Right about this size. 434: Tomatoes? Interviewer: Right. Do you grow many of those? 434: Not so many this year. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh along with your meat you might have a baked- what? Aux: {X} 434: Along with my meat? Interviewer: Uh-huh you might have a baked- Aux: Potat- Interviewer: A vegetable to go along with it that you might bake? What would you call that? Aux: Potato. 434: Potatoes? Interviewer: Uh-huh. What kind of potatoes are there? 434: Sweet potatoes. White potatoes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever- What- do you know what a yam is? What is a yam? 434: That's a- potato. Interviewer: It's just a potato? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Is it any different from a sweet potato? 434: They said it's the same thing only it's a different name. Interviewer: {NW} But there's- there's not any difference in the 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 potato? # Uh-huh. 434: See there's some ta- potatoes got- they white. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And then some of 'em is red inside. Some of the potatoes are just white all the way through. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I don't know what you call them. Interviewer: What's this- this vegetable that uh if you try peel 'em or cut 'em it might make your eyes water? What do you call that? 434: Onion. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about the little uh little young fresh onions that have a stalk on them, you can- you can eat right out of the ground, what do you call those? 434: Shallot? Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about- what are some of the things that you might put in a good vegetable soup? 434: Corns. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Tomatoes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Ketchup. Interviewer: Anything else? 434: Mustard. Interviewer: Uh-huh. A type of- of vegetable that some people like to boil, other people like to fry it. It's kinda green and long. What is that? 434: Beans? Interviewer: Beans or- something else uh. Aux: {X} Interviewer: What about okra? Aux: Yeah. 434: Oh {X} okra. Aux: Uh-huh. {NW} that {D: sounds} good. Interviewer: How do you like your okra cooked? 434: I like it cooked in peas and taken up before they- don't take 'em up with the peas. Take 'em up before you take up- before you take off the peas. That {D: junk} would get on top of them and take 'em off and- and eat it that way. I like okay- course I like okra anyway. Interviewer: Yeah {NW} 434: {X} #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 434: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 That kind of covers it doesn't it? # 434: That's right. {NS} Interviewer: {NW} What uh- if you leave an apple or a plum around you'd say that it- it might dry up and do what? It'll- 434: {X} Interviewer: Alright might 434: Rot. Interviewer: dry up and- what do you say it's doing when it's getting smaller? It's uh- Aux: Rot? Interviewer: If it draws up you know? 434: It's dried up. Interviewer: Dried up or would you ever say it shriveled up? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: On the tree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call these leafy vegetables that come in heads? 434: Cabbage? Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you- if you really like- if you really like it you say I sure do like these- 434: Cabbage. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And uh if you're s- if you're talking about the size you'd say that {NW} these sure are big. Talking about cabbage how big they are you'd say- you'd say what? 434: #1 This is # Interviewer: #2 These # 434: a big head. Interviewer: Uh-huh or if it's more than one you'd say these- 434: These cabbage is a head. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. What kind you- you mentioned some beans of- a minute ago, what kind of beans do you have around here? 434: String beans. Butter beans. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Butter peas. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you say you have- if you don't want to eat the- the pod that the- that uh the bean's in you'd have to do what? You have to sit down and- Aux: Shell 'em. 434: Shell 'em. Interviewer: Shell those things? 434: That's right. Interviewer: What about the kind of bean that you eat pod and all? What would you call 434: #1 That's # Interviewer: #2 that? # 434: string beans. Interviewer: String beans? Uh-huh. Well if- if you take the- the tops of a- of a lotta turnips and you cook 'em you're making a mess of what? 434: Turnips. Interviewer: Or just might call 'em- go out and get a- a bushel of what? 434: A bushel a turnips? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Or do- do you just call 'em just tal- call 'em greens? 434: That's right. Interviewer: mm-hmm 434: Turnip greens. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What uh- How would- if you wanted me to go down to the store and buy some lettuce for you and you wanted several of them what would you tell me to do? Go down and buy the- go down there and buy me what? 434: Some lettuce. Interviewer: Just- Aux: Several hea- Interviewer: If- if you I if you wanted uh- #1 How- # 434: #2 Two # heads. Interviewer: Two heads? Uh-huh. Have you ever- {NS} have you ever heard of uh- children referred to like that as heads? So and so's got four heads of children? You ever heard that called that? 434: I've heard it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I've heard that. Interviewer: If- 434: Four heads of children. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You ever heard that? If a man had uh seven boys and seven girl you'd say {NW} he sure does have a- 434: A gang of children. Interviewer: Gang of children? 434: Yeah what would- what would be the right way to say that now? Interviewer: Ah whatever you'd say'd be right. 434: Yeah well {NS} How's- now when you was talking about {X} Aux: I got a niece got- 434: {D: Claire} got a niece over there got #1 seven boys. # Aux: #2 fourteen. # Interviewer: Is that right? 434: And seven girls. Aux: No he- 434: {X} Aux: It is seven girls and seven boys. 434: That's fourteen. Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: That's- that's a whole lot. Aux: And they got uh thirteen of 'em in the house now. Interviewer: {NS} That sounds like a crowded house. 434: It is. Interviewer: I'll bet. Aux: It just makes {X} {X} {D: Two sets of three in a three} {D: How is that?} {D: Two sets of three in a three.} Yeah that's right. Interviewer: Goodness. Aux: And I {X} {X} Interviewer: Have you e- ever heard anybody say he sure does have a passel of children? Would you ever say that? You got a passel of children? 434: Yes passel of children. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Talking about corn General what do you call the the green covering that you take off the ear of the corn? 434: Shucks. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh- what's the kind of- what do you call the kind of corn that's tender enough to eat off the cob? 434: {X} Interviewer: {X} Uh-huh. Is there any other name for it? 434: Sure. Interviewer: What's that? Would you call it anything other than a 434: #1 {D: Name as they call it.} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Uh-huh. Okay. What about- what do you call the thing that grows out the top of the cornstalk? 434: Tassel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about the uh- the stuff that comes out of the corn stalks and you have to brush it off the ear? What's that? 434: Shell of corn. Aux: {D: Your silk}. Interviewer: The you know the stringy stuff that's on the ear. You have to brush it off. What do you call that? Aux: Silk? 434: What? Aux: {D: Your} silk. 434: Silk. Aux: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Uh-huh. Aux: Some folks 434: #1 We call it mustache. # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Is that right? {NW} {NW} 434: Corn have whiskers when it's getting back there. Interviewer: What do you call this great big uh round thing that uh people use at Halloween? They carve 'em up and make a pie out of 'em. 434: That's right. Interviewer: What's that called? 434: Halloween pie. Interviewer: #1 Or well # 434: #2 {X} # Cut. Interviewer: The- what do you call the vegetable itself? Aux: Pumpkin. Interviewer: You say go down to the store and buy me a- Aux: Pumpkin General. 434: Pumpkin. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {X} Aux: Pumpkin. Interviewer: Pumpkin. That's the thing that you know- 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # What about- what kind of melons do you- do you raise? 434: Watermelons. Interviewer: Any other kind? No other kinds? 434: There's a pie melon. Aux: Uh-huh. Interviewer: A pie melon? Aux: Watermelon. Interviewer: mm 434: {D: yeah it can break your mouth in it it's so hard.} Aux: {X} 434: {X} Interviewer: {NW} {NW} Does uh- Aux: Stank {NW} Interviewer: {NW} Are there different kinds of watermelons or are they all the same? 434: They ain't- they different kinds, they ain't all watermelon the same, animals eat some. But I don't know how to eat 'em hard as they is. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do watermelons have different colored meat? 434: You see the watermelon have red meat and then there's some watermelons have yellow meat. What they call cream Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {D: melon.} Interviewer: How do- 434: These {X} just like a {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. C- is there any way to tell what color meat the watermelon has without opening it? You just have to go ahead and cut it? 434: Just go ahead and cut it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 What do you- # Aux: {X} Interviewer: {NW} What do you call these vegetables that you might see growing around on the ground somewhere and they're kind of shaped like an umbrella? Has kind of umbrella shape, what do you call those things? You ever heard of uh ever seen mushrooms growing? Aux: I have. He sleeps {D: now} Interviewer: No he's going to sleep? About this type of vegetable that uh might- it might grow on a stump or a fallen log something like that, it kinda looks like an umbrella? It has a wide covering on the top? 434: Uh. Aux: Mushroom. 434: Mushrooms? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Can- can you eat some kinds of mushrooms? 434: They said you can. I ain't never eaten none. Aux: There's a- there's a certain kind {X} {X} {NS} Interviewer: Have you ever- have you ever heard of a- of a type of mushroom that's not good to eat? 434: I've seen a lot of it out there in the woods that I wouldn't eat. Interviewer: What would you call those? Some that might be poisonous. 434: I'd call it mushrooms. Interviewer: You'd call it mushrooms? 434: That's right {D: I never called} Interviewer: Have you ever heard it called toadstools? {NS} Aux: I have. {NS} {X} {X} Interviewer: {NW} {NS} 434: You sit on my knee now 'til you talk. Aux: No. Interviewer: When we have that party this Friday if you tell a fu- if you tell a- a funny story everybody's gonna be doing what? 434: Laugh. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if you get out uh your guitar everybody's gonna start doing what? 434: Sing. Interviewer: That's right. If somebody offers to do you a favor you might say well I appreciate it but I don't want to be- I appreciate your offer to do me the favor but I don't want to be what? Aux: {D: He asleep?} General! 434: Huh? {D: No I'm still with us}. {X} Interviewer: You know you don't want to feel like you owe him something #1 you'd say- # 434: #2 That's right. # Interviewer: you'd say what? 434: I {D: I would} I appreciate you favors but I don't feel like you owe me and I owe him. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you ever say I don't want to be beholding to anybody? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If somebody asked you to do a certain job and you'd say sure I- 434: I'll do it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about if you're not able to do something you might say I'd like to but- 434: I'm not able, I can't. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- if somebody asked you about sundown to do some work for him you might say well I got up to work before sun up today and I 434: I couldn't- Interviewer: #1 If you don't- # 434: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Right if you've already worked all you're 434: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 gonna work # 434: And then worked all day and I couldn't {D: care} Interviewer: That's right. You ever had anybody ask you to do something like that? 434: They have asked me several times. Huh? Aux: Because they don't want to do it. 434: Yeah {X} Aux: Sure have. Interviewer: That makes for some pretty long days doesn't it? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If there's been a real bad wreck up the road and if there was- was no need to call the doctor because the person was- 434: Dead. Interviewer: Uh-huh. No need to call. Okay. Uh if you heard of a boy who got a whipping at school you might say I bet he did something that he what? 434: Shouldn't have done. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- if you were- if you were refusing to do something in a very strong way you might say now no ma- no matter how many times you ask me to do that I- 434: I won't do it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Now you might've been doing some- some real hard work all by yourself and if your friend was just standing around without helping you might say well you- You know if you were just there working your head off and he was standing around- 434: He wouldn't help. Interviewer: Say- you'd turn to him and you'd say well you Aux: Bothered me. {X} 434: Huh? Aux: I was finna tell him {X} That's what I said. Interviewer: Or would you just say well you might a helped me you know? 434: S- ay well he- you might help me do s- Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: this work. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And he just standing there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- if somebody asked you to do something and you- you- you weren't sure whether you'd be able to do it or not you might say well I'm not sure but I- 434: Try. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Try or Would you ever say I- I might could do it for you? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about- what do you call the k- the kind of bird that can see in the dark General? Or you know- 434: {X} Interviewer: Well that might be or you know there are these birds around here that kinda make a scary noises at night #1 especially # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: around a graveyard? Aux: {X} Interviewer: What do you call those things? 434: Uh a owl Interviewer: Uh-huh yeah. What uh what do you- do the know the- the little kind of owl that makes kind of a- a real high- 434: Shivering owl. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call the- the bigger kind with the deeper voice? 434: Hoot owl. Interviewer: Uh-huh. There're many of those around here? You ever 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 seen 'em? # 434: {X} We heard one the other night down there in the woods talking about {X} just rest go home. Aux: {NW} 434: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Oh me. {NW} What do you ca- what do you call the kind of bird that drills holes in trees? 434: Redhead. Interviewer: Just a redhead? 434: Sapsuckers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you ever call it- 434: Yellow hammers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever- have you ever heard anybody call another person a- a- a woodpecker or a- something like that? 434: I hear 'em call 'em woodpeckers and sapsuckers. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Is that- is that- # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Does that- what does that mean? What does he- 434: He cussing them I reckon. Interviewer: He cussing him? He not- he's not 434: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 doing him a favor when he calls him that- # 434: {D: say it on} Sunday school Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} What do you call this animal, you might have seen them around here, it's kinda black and white and when you mess with them they leave a real powerful smell? 434: Polecat. Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah. Aux: {X} Interviewer: A polecat got after you General? 434: I shook one out of the tree right out #1 there # Aux: #2 {NW} # 434: dropped right down in my face. Interviewer: Uh-oh. 434: I fell out of the tree. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Aux: {X} Interviewer: Yeah I bet you- you had good reason to fall out of the tree. 434: He take my breath. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And he just dropped right down. Dogs just jumped {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call these kind of animals that come around and raid your chicken house? 434: Possum. Interviewer: Possum or 434: #1 Coons. # Interviewer: #2 anything e- # 434: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Aux: Fox? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is- is there any name that takes care of all of them? You might say I'm gonna get me a gang go out and take care of those- Those what? 434: These possums or coons. This is animal? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is there any one word that you'd use that'd take care of all of 'em? Aux: {X} Interviewer: Would you ever call 'em varmints? Aux: Right. Interviewer: Do you ever call it varmints? 434: Varmints. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 434: #2 That's right. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about- what do you call these little bushy-tailed animals that run around in the trees? 434: Squirrels. Interviewer: What different kinds of squirrels are there? 434: Fox squirrels, cat squirrels and uh ground squirrels. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Are they all the same color? 434: Ground squirrels got a white blaze on his tail, got a white streak coming down his back some of them. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You ever seen a squirrel that's colored red? 434: And they got flying squirrels. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Which- which of those squirrels is good to eat? 434: The cat squirrel. Interviewer: Cat squirrel? 434: Now those things be messy. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: General the fox {X} 434: Huh? Interviewer: Fox squirrels good to eat? Aux: Yeah. 434: Well that's squirrel. Aux: I know. 434: Still a Aux: #1 It's big. # 434: #2 squirrel. # Fox squirrel and cat squirrel. Aux: Uh-huh. What do you call these little animals that look like squirrels but they don't climb trees? 434: Rats. Interviewer: Rats or anything else? 434: Rats {X} Interviewer: Might not have- might- might not have a long tail like a rat. But it kinda looks like a squirrel. Aux: A mole? 434: Muskrat? Interviewer: {NW} You ever hear of a brown squirrel? Or a chipmunk- 434: Brown squirrel? Interviewer: Might call it- you've ever heard people call 'em chipmunks? 434: I ain't never heard them called nothing but ground squirrels. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or maybe a gopher? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh- what are some of the uh kind of fish you get around here General? When people go fishing what do they fish for? 434: Well they catfish. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Black fish. Trout. Eel. Cat fish and brim. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NS} 434: {X} fish. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Jack. 434: What? Aux: Jack fish you- I caught one {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # I told her {D: I'll get it} Interviewer: {NW} Aux: I ain't never seen {X} but I was so scared {NW} Interviewer: Goodness. Aux: And how I got that big old thing out I don't know. Interviewer: {NW} Aux: It was easy. {D: I'm just a mean jumper}. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever eaten a- any fish uh- that are saltwater fish General? 434: Not as I know of. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Do you know what these things are that uh they're they grow in- they're in shells- they're uh you find 'em in the ocean and peop- and uh pearls grow in 'em? 434: Oysters. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you ever- do you like to eat oysters? 434: Yes sir. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I love 'em. Interviewer: What do you call these kind of animals that you might find around a pond at night making these uh- 434: Bullfrog? Interviewer: Uh-huh. The- the big ones are the bullfrogs aren't they? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard a bullfrog called anything else? Uh-huh. What about uh some other kinds of frogs other than bullfrogs? 434: I don't know- the toad frog? Aux: Tree frog. 434: There's a tod- toad frog and a tree frog. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Are the tree frogs the little ones? The little- 434: #1 the tree # Interviewer: #2 tiny- # 434: frogs are little white looking frogs. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} Interviewer: Is there another- have you ever heard it c- a tree frog called anything else? Uh-huh. Uh is i- is it the toad frog that supposed to give you warts if you- if you handle it? Aux: Right. 434: Toad- that's right it's a toad frog. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call the things you use to go fishing with for bait? 434: Bait. Interviewer: What- what are some- 434: Hooks. Interviewer: Yeah. What are- what would some people use for different kinds of bait? 434: I don't Interviewer: #1 Crickets. # 434: #2 know I- # Interviewer: #1 # 434: #2 # A lot of 'em use uh fishing bait. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Lot of 'em dig worms out the ground fish with them. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: That's what I fish with {D: I love it}. I had less fish with them crickets {X} Interviewer: {NW} Do you know- are- are there any different kinds of worms that you can use to go fishing with? 434: {D: It's said these red worms} best to fish with. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Are those the big ones? 434: I don't know, there ain't no fish in the river. Aux: {X} 434: {D: mm-hmm} Aux: Red ones. Interviewer: What do you- what do you call that animal General that has a hard shell and ever now and then it will pull its head into its shell? 434: Terrapin. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is it uh- would you call it- is that the one that's on dry land? 434: Terrapin's on dry land. Interviewer: Terrapin's on dry land? Uh-huh. Aux: {X} on dry land. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. What about the thing that you might find in streams somewhere, it's uh- it's got claws on it you know? And if you- if you- if it's under a rock you might pull it up- up the rock and the thing'll swim back uh {NW} swim away backwards? You know what that is? This thing that's got claws on it? Think he went to sleep. We were talking about this thing that you might find uh in streams that has claws on it. What do you call those little things? That you can some- that you can eat? 434: Craw- crawfish? Interviewer: Yeah. Uh-huh. Do you like those things? 434: {NW} Aux: {X} Interviewer: Don't like-. 434: I don't like 'em. You like 'em? Aux: {X} Interviewer: Don't care for 'em. What- what do you call this- this type of seafood that they're real small fan-tail things? And uh you get 'em by dragging the nets along the bottom of the bay. You know what those things are called? It's a type of seafood, they're real small. You ever had any shrimp to eat? 434: I've had shrimp. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: You like them? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: You do? Interviewer: Yeah. You don't like shrimp? 434: I don't like them- Interviewer: You don't like 'em? Aux: {X} 434: #1 I have tried me a few of them. # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} Interviewer: If I- if I were going to go down to the store to get some I might ask uh for a few pounds of- of what? Give me a- 434: {X} Interviewer: Give me a few pounds of 434: Uh. Aux: Shrimp. 434: Shrimp. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. What do you call- at night General- you said these insects fly around light bulbs, what do you call those things? 434: Light bugs. Light bugs. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you call the- wha- what about the things that get in your clothes and- and eat holes in 'em if you're not careful? 434: Mites? Interviewer: Mites. Uh-huh. Have you ever heard of uh- of uh- of a moth? Is that- does a moth fly around a- a light at night? Aux: {X} {NW} {X} {NW} 434: #1 I don't know. # Aux: #2 {X} # 434: #1 # Aux: #2 # Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever- Aux: {NW} Interviewer: seen this type of insect that flies around at night and the light flashes on and off? 434: #1 That's # Interviewer: #2 You know- # 434: lighting bug. Interviewer: Lighting bug? Uh-huh. What about this- talking about being around a pond sometimes you see an insect that likes to stay around ponds it's got kind of a long thin body and pairs of transparent wings. What do you call that thing? Aux: {NW} 434: Mens call it a- Interviewer: It likes to eat mosquitoes. Aux: {X} 434: I reckon so. Interviewer: You- some- some people say they're a sign that snakes are nearby. 434: Snakes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} Interviewer: In- what do you call the insect? Do you know? 434: Insect? Interviewer: Yeah it's a- it's a kind of insect with a long thin body. 434: {D: Mosquito} gnats? Interviewer: Or- Aux: No. Interviewer: Sometimes they light on your pole. When you're fishing you know? They're- they're about- about this long I guess. Aux: With wings. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: It has wings on it. Aux: We call 'em snake doctor. Interviewer: You ever heard of a snake doctor? Is that what you'd call- 434: That's what I'd call it a sn- that's what I always heard, there was snake doctors. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: #1 {X} # 434: #2 I know # {D: isn't a snake ever let him duck none.} Interviewer: {NW} 434: Try to catch 'em {X} Interviewer: That's right. What uh- what kind- we were talking about snakes yesterday. What are some of the insects around here that'll sting ya? Aux: Wasps. Yellow jacket- 434: Wait a minute. Interviewer: Okay. 434: Now what you said? Interviewer: What are some of the insects around here that'll sting you? 434: That bite you? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Mosquito, black gnats. Aux: {NW} 434: Horse flies. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {X} flies. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} Interviewer: What about- y- have you ever seen any that make these great big paper nests in trees? 434: Hornets? Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: Know he'll never forget that. {X} Interviewer: You ever got into any hornets before General? Aux: {NW} 434: {D: I peaked} {X} stuck the hole there, what was in there to see what was in there and one hit me right between the eyes. Interviewer: Uh-oh. Aux: {NW} {NW} Oh lord. 434: I was a little boy then but I been grown ever since and then- Interviewer: {NW} 434: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} My goodness. What about- what about the kind of insect that will make a mud nest on the side of your house? Aux: Dirt devils. Dirt devils Interviewer: #1 You know what I'm # Aux: #2 General. # Interviewer: talking about? 434: Dirt devils. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Wasps. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Wasps don't make them- 434: Yeah wasps make them Aux: They make it but they don't {NW}- make it out of dirt do they? Interviewer: Is that- what is that? 434: #1 You make # Aux: #2 A wasp # 434: nests on the side of the house though. Aux: Dirt devil. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: A wasp will too. Aux: But they add mud. 434: {D: He gonna} make it outta mud when he put it on the side of the house. Aux: {X} Interviewer: Is a- is a wasp kinda like paper? Aux: Yes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What about- is there any kind of insect that builds its nest in the ground and will swarm all over you? 434: Yellowjacket. Interviewer: You ever got into any yellowjackets? Aux: {NW} 434: {D: Oh no.} I pulled out five- gallon milk {X} some of 'em out there lying waste to the five gallon bucket {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Oh lordy. {NW} What do you call those little insects that'll get up under your skin and raise welts on it? 434: Get up on your skin? Interviewer: Get up under your skin. They- they'll burrow in your skin and make you itch. You know what- #1 ever heard of those? # Aux: #2 Those little # gnats. Interviewer: Would you just call 'em gnats or- 434: Black gnat. Interviewer: Black gnat? Aux: {X} Interviewer: Is that- have you ever heard of a chigger? Is that chigger? 434: Cheetah? Interviewer: Chigger. 434: I don't know. Interviewer: Never heard of chigger? Okay. Or maybe a red bug? 434: I've Interviewer: #1 You know what a red bug is? # 434: #2 heard of red bug # up in {D: Lotus} Aux: Did you tell him I- 434: {NW} Aux: #1 {X} # 434: #2 I used to get loaded # with them at the swamp Aux: #1 That's a tick. # 434: #2 hunt that night. # Aux: #1 # 434: #2 # Aux: {D: All the dogs get full of them} Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah. # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} Interviewer: {NW} What wou- what do you call these insects some of 'em are green and some of 'em are black and hop around in the grass? 434: Grasshoppers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about- we were talking about bait a minute ago- What do you call the small kind of fish that some people use for bait? You- you can get 'em at a bait house along with worms. 434: Never have. Aux: {X} Or minnows or- Interviewer: Have you ever used minnows to fish with? Any minnows? 434: I don't remember. Aux: General you use {X} 434: Huh? Aux: General I fish with minnows but he just- 434: Fish with minnows? Aux: Yeah. 434: I don't fish in the daytime, I never did fish in the #1 daytime I see- # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {D: get in the swamp.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call that stuff General that'll gather up in the ceiling of the house when it hadn't been cleaned in a long time? It'll get in the corners. What do you call that stuff? 434: Dust. Interviewer: Just dust? Okay. Have- 434: Spider webs. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What about when you're pulling up a stump outside you're gonna have to get in and dig around and cut out what? 434: Taproot. Interviewer: Cut out the roots of it? Okay. What about uh- talking about tapping something have you ever heard of tapping a tree for syrup? Letting- letting the syrup run out of it, what kind of tree would you tap for #1 syrup? # 434: #2 Pine # tree gum. Aux: For syrup? Interviewer: Talk- for syrup. 434: Oh for syrup. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Oh I wouldn't #1 know. # Aux: #2 Maple? # Interviewer: {NW} Aux: {X} 434: What was it? Aux: Maple. 434: Oh maple ain't no syrup {X} Aux: I don't know. {X} I don't know. Interviewer: If you had a- if you had a lot of these maple trees together in one place what would you call a big group of these trees? Might be maple trees or might be pecan trees 434: {NW} {D: A lot of times} {D: a lot of times} call it orchards. A maple tree. Interviewer: An orchard uh-huh. Okay. Have- do you know what kind of tree uh you'd have if you were- if you had the one with the- the real broad leaves you know that- that shed all the time and the bark uh peels and has little knobs and balls all over it? Know what kind of tree that would be? Have you ever heard of a sycamore tree? Aux: I have {X} 434: Sycamore #1 trees? # Interviewer: #2 Huh? # 434: Sure. Interviewer: Okay. When over here right on the side of the road. What about uh some other types of trees around here besides sycamore trees? 434: Well there's Aux: Tree {D: gum} 434: willows. Sweetgums. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Pine. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {X} gums. Water oak. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Red oaks. And uh sugar berry. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What uh- talking about trees do you know the type of tree that George Washington was supposed to cut down when he was a little boy? Ever heard of that? 434: I never Interviewer: #1 {D: Okay.} # 434: #2 heard of it. # Interviewer: He was supposed to cut down a cherry tree I think. Aux: Right. Interviewer: Okay. Aux: Right. Interviewer: What about- what would you call a bush that grows along the side of the road and it uh the leaves turn real bright red pretty early and uh people say that it used to be used by old people for tanning leather. Have you ever heard of that? 434: Never. Interviewer: Never heard of that? Never heard of a- of a shumac? Okay. Are there any kind of bushes that if you get into 'em it'll make your skin break out? And itch? 434: I don't think there is. I know uh poison oak. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {X} bound to make your skin break out on you. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. What about uh- have you ever gone berry picking around here? What different kinds of berries do you pick? 434: Dewberries. Blackberries. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Strawberries. See they grow them in gardens. Strawberries. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have uh you ever picked any berries with a real rough surface? Some of 'em are red, some of 'em are black. Aux: There's huckleberries too. Interviewer: You ever picked any raspberries? 434: What? Interviewer: You ever pick any raspberries? Okay. 434: {D: Not as I} #1 know of. # Aux: #2 My dad # had a patch of 'em {X} 434: You ever- you ever set traps? Interviewer: Uh-uh. Never have. {NS} Aux: {X} Interviewer: {NW} Why do you ask? 434: Well peoples used to set traps and catch quails. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {D: Sleep.} {NW} 434: River {X} set traps yet. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {D: No kids or nothing} 434: Saved you. Aux: {X} Interviewer: Talk about uh- talking about trees again General what do you call this great big type of tree that has these big green shiny leaves and these great big white waxy-looking flowers? What kind of tree would you call that? I was asking about this great big tree that has great big green leaves on it and these big white uh waxy-looking white flowers. You know what kinda- 434: Magnolia? Interviewer: Yeah. Big magnolia tree. 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What kind of bushes around here uh are there that flower in the- in the late spring? You know of any? Aux: {X} 434: Holly wood bush. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: The one right back there- 434: With red berries. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Any kind of uh- anything you'd call a laurel bush? You ever heard of that? Okay. Okay. {NW} What about uh- General if somebody uh looked at Vera and said who is that you'd say that's my- 434: Wife. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if uh somebody asked {B}- if somebody asked {B} who you were she'd say that your her- Aux: Husband. You are going to sleep. Interviewer: If somebody asked {B} who you were she'd say that you're- 434: Her husband? Interviewer: Uh-huh. That's right. Have you ever- what do you call a woman who's lost her husband? Her husband's died. 434: Now if she ain't eighty years old she'll lose one. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} 434: That's what the Bible says. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 That # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 # 434: #2 # it said a woman lose her husband at her age she free to marry like she did before she married the first time. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: But to be a widow and a widow indeed she must be three score and ten That what's- that's what that book over there say, now I didn't put {D: them there.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: But now we got loose womens we gonna have with us. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And everybody hunting something loose. Interviewer: {NW} 434: {NW} {NW} Interviewer: I reckon so. {NW} What uh- have you- what would you call her if uh her husband hadn't died, he's just left? What would you call her, anything? 434: Well they- I wouldn't know what to call her. Both of 'em they- they do such a {X} just ran and got killed had {X} He done left his wife, him and her weren't together, he was just living here yonder he {D: b- call herself, have a trailer he living in.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And had grown children, had grandchildren. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard- have you ever heard 'em called grass widow? Aux: Uh-huh. 434: I've heard it said. Aux: Uh-huh. 434: But long as that husband live she ain't no widow. Aux: Uh-huh. 434: Long as h- long as he live she can't be a widow now she can't be a widow 'til she come to that age. Aux: Uh-huh. So that wouldn't be an accurate description Interviewer: #1 {D: would it?} # 434: #2 That's right. # 434: Well you see the folks do it to please. Interviewer: Uh-huh. General when you were a young boy who was the person in your family who'd be most likely to give you a whipping if you needed one? 434: My mother give me all of mine. {D: It's right there.} Interviewer: Is that right? 434: My daddy never did whoop {D: me much}. {D: course} my mother's she tear you up. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you usually call your father your daddy? What about your mother, did you call her mother or something else? Aux: Momma. 434: We called call her mom. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And I called my daddy papa. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- well- your mother and your father together are what? 434: Man and wife. Interviewer: And you would say well those are my- 434: Yeah. Mother and father. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Would you ever say they're your parents? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would you call your- your father's father? 434: Grandpa. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about your uh your father's mother? 434: Grandma. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is that what you'd call her? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Grandma. What about- your sons and- your sons and your daughters together would be called what? Or anybody's sons and daughters. One word- 434: My children. Interviewer: Right. Right. What about uh if you- if you have a special name for one of your children what would you call that special name? You know a name that- a name that a child's just known as in the family. And nowhere else, what would you call that kinda name? 434: Well I wouldn't know that. Interviewer: Would you call it a- have you ever heard of anybody's chi- child having a pet name or something like that? 434: I heard of 'em having nicknames. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-hu- 434: I reckon that's about the same. Interviewer: About the same. Aux: Just like you call that boy Buck. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: You know {X} his name is {D: Will-Lee}. Interviewer: What- what do you call these things that are on wheels General that you can put a- a baby in and it'll lie down? 434: Baby carriage. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you were gonna put the baby carriage uh- if you're going to put the baby in the carriage you'd say you're going to go out and what? Say I believe I'll put the baby in the carriage and go out and- 434: And work. Interviewer: #1 Well if you were just gonna- # 434: #2 And- and # cut grass. Interviewer: If you were gonna have the baby along with you. 434: Oh well {D: then} take a walk. Interviewer: Okay. 434: And push the baby. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- if you have uh three children, one of 'em's five years old, one of 'em's ten years old and one of 'em's twenty years old you'd say that the one who's twenty years old is the- As far as age goes. Aux: The oldest. 434: He's a man. Interviewer: Or he's- in relationship to the other two 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 he's the- # He's the what? 434: He's the older brother. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or if you were talking about- if you were talking about in ter- him in terms of being grown up you'd say he's the- Aux: Oldest. 434: He's a man. Interviewer: Okay or you might say he's the- he's the most grown up 434: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 of all of 'em? # Okay. Okay. Alright. Your- anybody's children would be their sons and their- 434: Daughters. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And- or anybody's children would be the boys and the- 434: The sons. Interviewer: The boys and the- 434: Boys and girls. Interviewer: Right. Okay. What do you- if you- if a woman's about to have a baby you say she's what? What's her con- #1 dition? # 434: #2 Pregnant. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. Have you ever heard called that- called anything else? Never have. Would- would there be any kind of special term- 434: I hear 'em- a lot of 'em would say she's big. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. If the woman didn't have a husband is there any other term you might use to- if you were talking about her? 434: If she didn't have a husband? Interviewer: Is there any way you might talk about her if you were just joking about it? 434: Uh uh- she's- she's stealing. Interviewer: She's stealing? 434: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 434: Anything you dabble around with {D: and ain't none of your's} anything you got to hide you stealing. {C: loud background noise} {NS} Interviewer: If uh- if you didn't have a doctor around to deliver a baby what would you call the woman that you might send for? 434: Call her midwife. Interviewer: Midwife? Uh-huh. Is there any other name you've ever heard 'em called? Okay. If uh- if a boy has the same color hair and eyes as his father does and maybe the same shaped nose you'd say that he- 434: Just like his father. Interviewer: Just like his father? Uh-huh. If- if he has the same kind of behavior as his father would you say the same thing about him? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- if he's gotten all his father's bad habits would you still say he's just like his father? 434: Have to. Well if he's just like him he's just like him. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} Okay or would you ever say he takes after his father? Or something like that? 434: That's what them folks said. Interviewer: Okay. Uh. If a- if a mother has looked after three children until they've grown up you'd say that she has done what? 434: Taken care of three children. Interviewer: Just taken care of 'em? Okay. Would you ever say she's reared three children? Aux: Right. That's right. 434: She raised three children. Interviewer: Raised 'em or reared 'em. 434: That's right. Interviewer: Okay. Okay. If uh if a child- if a child's been real bad and he's misbehaved you might say to him well if you do that again 434: I'll whoop you. Interviewer: That's right. You ever had to give many whipping General? 434: You tell it. Interviewer: {NW} Do you use your hand or a belt? 434: {NW} {D: Depends how you give it to 'em} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Oh me. Aux: {X} 434: {NW} {NW} Aux: I think he {X} Try. And he {D: stabbed} and whooped a little boy. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: I mean {X} Interviewer: When was the last time you whipped somebody General? Aux: {D: Oh god.} 434: I ain't had no trouble with nobody much since I've been grown. I had several #1 li- little fights when I was {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # {D: You wasn't wrong} when you married me. Interviewer: {NW} Aux: I see him whoop several- was several men. I- I was on the {D: church} {NW} I was in there somebody come and says {B} I said what. Say you better go out there and see what {B} I said what's the matter with him? This- {X} {D: So I walk} outside {D: and then his mother beared back on him} She knows there's something {X} I went to the door and I- when I got to the door and I seen him right there in the yard and I seen {B} standing there and the folks {X} And uh his mother's trying- she got up said where is General? I said yonder {D: here} Somebody {D: fight me} {X} {D: maybe fight} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: You don't want nobody touch anything {B} won't fight you. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: and then that's when I went to him I said {B} just tell I said well {NS} just cool {X} I said what in the world's matter with you? {X} I said {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} Interviewer: Oh my goodness. Aux: You did. And she {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. General if- if you knew somebody who grew five inches uh who was five inches taller this year than he was last year you'd say my goodness you sure- 434: Have grew. Aux: Uh-huh. That'd be a lot wouldn't it? 434: That's right. Interviewer: How tall are you General? 434: I'm ain't as tall now, done drawed up so I used to be about six feet. Interviewer: Uh-huh. That's pretty tall. What would you call a child who- who's born to an unmarried woman? 434: Well they call it a bastard. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You ever heard it called anything else? Okay. If- you might say that well this girl's a real loving child but uh Peggy's a lot Aux: {X} 434: Loving she is. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. What would you call- if your brother had a son what would your son be- what would his son be in relation to you? He'd be your what? 434: Niece. Interviewer: Well a son. 434: That's- my brother's son? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: I would be his uncle. Interviewer: And he would be your- 434: My niece. Aux: Uh-uh. 434: What? Aux: Nephew. 434: Nephew. Interviewer: Nephew? 434: That's right. Interviewer: What do you call a- if a child has lost both its mother and its father what would you call that child? Aux: {X} 434: Motherless child. Interviewer: Motherless child? Would you ever- would you ever call it an orphan? Okay. What would you call a person who- {NS} What would you call a person who's been appointment to look after a motherless child? Maybe the- the court or the judge appointed a person to look after a motherless child. What would you call that person? 434: {D: I don't know what that's called.} Interviewer: Okay. Have you ever heard of uh- of guardian? 434: {D: Guardian?} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {NW} I've heard of that. She gonna be the guardian of that child. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You know if you have a- if the house is full of your cousins and nephews and- and nieces and all those kind of people you'd say that the house is full of your? 434: Peoples. Interviewer: Full of your people? Aux: {X} Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever call 'em anything else? Okay. Uh. If some- if uh there was somebody who looked a little bit like you and uh she might have the same last name as you but uh you say well I'm actually not- What? If she's not a part of your family but she looks like you and- and she might have your same last name you say well really I'm not any- 434: Related to her. Interviewer: Okay not related to her at all. What would you- what would you call a person who's come from out of town and nobody's ever seem him before? You'd say have you seen that- 434: Stranger. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about What a pers- what about a person who's come from another country? What would you call him? 434: Stranger. Interviewer: Still call him a stranger? 434: That's right. Interviewer: Okay. Would uh- would you ever call anybody a foreigner? 434: Well have called somebody that- a foreigner. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Uh. What- what was the name of the mother of Jesus in the Bible General? 434: Mary. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh. Do you know what the- the names of the uh the sisters- what are some other- of the other names of women in the Bible General? 434: Usually got {D: Zeriya} is in there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Rachel. Naomi, Ruth. {X} Eunice. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Jezebel. Interviewer: Okay that's good. What about uh- can you think of any common names of women that begin with an M besides Mary? 434: I can't right now. Interviewer: Okay what about uh- you know any women named Martha? Aux: Yeah. 434: {D: River Center} has that name. Aux: {D: Still in the Bible, doesn't it?} Interviewer: Well not necessarily just women in general. Women. You say he had who? 434: {D: River Center had a good name of it.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. 434: And there's a woman named Montgomery {X} might be his niece {X} nephew or something named Martha. Martha Hall. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of a song that's a song about a woman and one of the lines is wait 'til the sh- wait 'til the sun shines- somebody? You ever heard of that one? 434: Never have. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What would- what would you- have you ever heard of uh a woman named Helen, the nickname for a woman named Helen? What would that be? Begins with an N. 434: Never. Aux: Call her {X} Helen. 434: Huh? Aux: Call her {X} Helen. Interviewer: You ever- 434: {D: Helen?} Interviewer: You ever heard of a woman named Nelly? Aux: Nelly. 434: Millie? Interviewer: Nelly. 434: Nelly? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Sure. {NS} Nelly Ruth. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: See there's a white woman down in here used to be named Nelly. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about- what about uh- you were talking about nicknames, what might you nickname a boy named William? What might you call him for short? 434: William. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If you didn't want to call him William you might call him what? 434: Bill. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Bill or Billy? 434: That's right Billy. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Who was na- what was the name of the man who wrote the first of the four gospels in the Bible? You remember that? 434: {X} I can't now {B} Interviewer: Well there was- there was Mark, Luke, and John, and 434: {X} Interviewer: What was the other one? Remember the other one's name? 434: Mark, Luke John Interviewer: Begin with an M. 434: Phillip. And uh Interviewer: It's the uh- it's the- it's the first book in the New Testament. Aux: Matthew. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Remember Matthew? 434: Michael. Aux: Matthew General. 434: Matthew? Interviewer: Yeah. You know Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John? Aux: Right. Interviewer: Okay. What would you call- General what would you call a woman who's a school teacher or a woman who runs a school, you'd call her a- 434: A teacher. Interviewer: Just a teacher? 434: Just a teacher. Interviewer: Okay. Mu- would you ever call- have you ever heard people call 'em a school marm? Okay. Uh you were talking about preachers the other day General. What would you call a preacher that's really not trained very well? He- he doesn't have a- a regular church and he just preaches uh here and there on Sundays? What kind of preacher would you call him? If he's not a very good preacher. Aux: {D: He's gone in isn't he?} Interviewer: Yeah. Preachers. What would you call a- a preacher that really hadn't had much training? He just preaches here and there, he really does something else for a living. He might not be a good preacher. You'd say ah he's just a- {NS} 434: Well he's just a- I- I would- uh- He wouldn't be a good preacher. Interviewer: Is there any particular name that you'd have for him? Or he's no good, he's just an old- You ever heard of a jackleg preacher? 434: {X} Interviewer: What i- what is a jackleg preacher mean, somebody- if I told you that I knew a jackleg preacher you'd know that he'd be like what, what would he be like? 434: He'd be just like any other man but he'd be up there kidding himself trying to be a preacher. Interviewer: {NW} {NS} 434: The other guys told him if I caught you {X} newspaper. Interviewer: Okay. What uh- General what relation would my mother's sister be to me? She'd be my what? 434: Your mother and uh her sister? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Would be your aunt. Interviewer: Okay. If uh- if a woman's last name was- was Cooper that was her married last name wha- how would you- how would you ca- address her, you'd say do you know 434: Ms Cooper. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Do you remember in the Bible General what the name of Abraham's wife was? 434: Sarah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. If uh- let's see. If your father had a brother named William you'd call him what? 434: Bill. Interviewer: Well you'd say- 434: Willie or Bill. Aux: Uncle Will. Interviewer: Well if you were- let's say if you were a little boy 434: Yeah. Interviewer: and your #1 father # 434: #2 Uncle William. # Interviewer: Yeah Uncle William or if his name was John you'd call him- 434: Uncle John. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you remember uh General in the- in the Civil War do you remember the name of the general who commanded the South? Okay. You ever heard of uh- of Robert E. Lee? 434: I heard of him. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But if he was a General he- he'd be- he'd be called what? You'd call him- 434: He would be the- Interviewer: #1 {X} # 434: #2 {X} # He'd be the head of the army. #1 Master- # Aux: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Alright you might say uh- you might say- uh Captain John's but you'd call him General- 434: He'd be the captain. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. What about uh- Aux: {NW} Interviewer: You know anything about military rank? We were talking about uh captain and general and private or anything like that? Do you know any #1 of those ranks? # 434: #2 I don't- # Interviewer: #1 # 434: #2 # I don't know nothing about this military. And this- this army's business like that. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of uh- of a colonel? 434: I've heard it. Heard colonels. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. What about uh- what do you call the man who- who runs a- the county court? You'd say he's a what? 434: Judge? Interviewer: Yeah. You know any judges? You ever had any dealings with judges? 434: What is {X} isn't he a judge? Interviewer: Who's that? 434: {B} isn't he a judge? Interviewer: Yeah he's a probate judge. Alright you know him? 434: Sure. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Now ms {X} used to be a judge down in {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Aux: {B} you so sleepy why don't you check out? Interviewer: No I can hear him alright. What do you call- what would you call a boy or a girl who's in school? You'd say that he's a- well he's a what? 434: Scholar. Interviewer: A scholar okay. What about uh- Aux: Student. Interviewer: What do you call a woman who works in a- in an office who takes care of another man's mail and types his letters and all that? 434: She's a {X} Interviewer: Okay. Fair. Have you ever what do you- what would you call a woman who app- appears in uh- in uh on stage you know in a play or a movie or something like that? 434: Star. Interviewer: Okay. What uh- what- talking about nationality General what would you call anybody who's born in the United States, he'd be a what? 434: American. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about uh- let's see- General I've heard you sa- I've heard- I've heard you call yourself big nigger. Do you like to be called that? 434: Don't make me a bit of difference #1 that's because # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: I done had that name for years. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What 434: #1 {D: Now} # Interviewer: #2 about uh # 434: Don't nobody call me that with white folks. Interviewer: Is that right? You don't- is there- is there any term that a- that a white man might use if he said that is there any way that he might say it that you'd resent it or take offense? 434: Sure. Not- Not a bit. Interviewer: Is that right? 434: That's right. Interviewer: But you say other black people don't call- 434: But other black people- a- a lot of- see if I get mad if you call me a nigger you- I'm letting you know I is a nigger. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: But if I don't get mad you know I ain't no nigger. Interviewer: Do you ever use the term negro? 434: I've- #1 seen that but- # Aux: #2 Yeah but- # 434: That's- {D: now they come here we do} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {X} negro. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: But you didn't give 'em that name did you? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Did you #1 give- # Interviewer: #2 No- no # 434: you didn't give 'em that name. They had that when they brought 'em over here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And a lot of folks don't want you to call 'em a nigger and they don't want you to call 'em black, now what you gonna call 'em? Interviewer: Yeah I was about to say you know the- the term that most uh uh black people like to be called now, especially the young ones are just black. You know just call 'em- Say he's a black. If you have to refer to him just 434: #1 Well I- uh I # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 434: just soon {D: found} call 'em nigger cuz you can say a black dog. Interviewer: Well that's true. 434: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 434: {NW} Interviewer: #1 Well you got a point there. # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} Well since- since I'm not- since I'm not your color General what would you call me? 434: White man. Interviewer: Call me a white man. 434: Yeah. Interviewer: Well is there any word that you might use to call a white man in any special situation if maybe you were joking about him or something like that? 434: Well now there's a lotta white folks- there's a class of white folks- it's right down in the- now there ain't no difference in our flesh. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: But there's a class of white peoples go right along grade theyselves right along with the colored race of peoples. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Now the- there's a class of white folks think the better class of white folks meddling at 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: Well the colored man think the white folks hate him cuz he's black. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: But they don't. White folks don't hate colored folks. They don't hate 'em- they- they- they respect 'em. They care for 'em. But he think cuz he's black that you hate him. While the poor man think cuz he can't come to your house and sleep in the bed with you and spend the nights at your house he think you {D: picking outta him} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: but you ain't. There's a class a niggers I wouldn't let get in my bed, I'd go out there and sleep in them leaves with 'em before I'd let him come in here and go in my bed cuz he's nasty and filthy. Well there's a class of white folks you don't to invite 'em to your home. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: They white. But the flesh- ain't a bit of difference in the flesh. That moral standing. {NS} Interviewer: What are- what are- if uh is there anything that you might call a white man if you were just real mad at him and you wanted to insult him? Is there any um- 434: Now they- A lot of peoples call white folk- uh call- get mad and then they call 'em {D: peckers} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: And crackers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. So if you want to insult somebody you'd- you'd call 'em that? 434: That's right well now Interviewer: #1 You want to get him # 434: #2 {X} # Interviewer: mad. 434: They is some crackers. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 434: #2 {NW} # And they {NW} {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: You never have no trouble outta good white folks. All the trouble is- colored peoples have they have it out of sorry class a white peoples. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: but the better class of white peoples don't believe in fussing and fighting. Interviewer: Uh-huh. It's a lot easier to get along 434: #1 That's # Interviewer: #2 isn't it? # 434: right, you see it's the best to get along. See I was raised in the family a good family of white peoples Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: {D: slept there.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Me and these boys wrestling {D: he gave a} their dad would paddle me just like he did them. Uh-huh. 434: Well I stayed there with them {X} looked like it's- it was got the hard for me to get along with colored folks. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 434: But I don't hate nobody. I ain't got no hatred in my heart against nobody but I hate sin. God hate. {NS} Interviewer: Okay. I guess that's the best way to be isn't it? 434: That's right. Interviewer: What would uh- General what would a-