Interviewer: Call that a 456: I don't remember {C: static} Interviewer: What What was that you just said at the end 456: Well uh We used to use A china Egg it's just a white egg made out of china was shaped like the other eggs you know Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: But I don't remember what they called it I don't remember hearing anybody calling it anything special Interviewer: Mm-hmm What would you use to carry water in? 456: Well we always had water we didn't have to we didn't have to bring it from any distance we had water piped in Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And uh I suppose uh when we first moved down here they probably had a well I don't know Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But from the time that I can remember personally we had water piped in from the ground uh there was a Uh I've said there was an outside stairway Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: On this building uptown that's That's about as far back as I can remember cause that's that's where we were living when I can My first remembrance Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And uh there was a staircase that was on This side of the building and it went up to the top second floor And it went around the back of the building And um Uh There was a pump Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Attached to this pipe That came all the way from the ground you know and I used to climb over that uh Banister there was a banister around the Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: All the way Around that The this little porch on the back all the way down to the s- The staircase Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And uh I used to Climb over that banister when I was four Years old and slide down that banister Interviewer: {NW} 456: You know #1 All the way to the # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm # 456: ground it was high it was way up that uh You know the in that day the The ceilings were so very high and uh The um That second story was way up here. {C: laughing} And I used to climb Climb over that you know and slide down and scare my momma to death #1 But # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 456: I did it Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: And those uh there was no kind of porch around on the front of that building there was a porch And but it was just across the front there wasn't any across the side and I'd go in some of those rooms and open that window in there and climb that on that window sill and sit there and swing my legs {C: laughing} out the side of that window It's a wonder Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Something didn't happen to me Interviewer: What'd people used to milk into 456: Pail a milk pail. Interviewer: Uh-huh What would that be made out of 456: Well I uh tin I suppose Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: It didn't the milk didn't stay in there any longer than they could get it in the house and do something with it Interviewer: #1 What about something # 456: #2 Some kind of milk # bucket I don't know. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 456: #2 They may have # used different things. Interviewer: #1 When you # 456: #2 hmm # Interviewer: talk about a bucket Are you pict- Is that the same thing as a #1 pail? # 456: #2 Pail uh-huh # Interviewer: Mm-hmm And something that you might have in the The kitchen to Throw scraps in for the hog Carry out to the hogs 456: Well We just had a A garbage pail Interviewer: Uh-huh But what'd they call that bucket that they'd They'd use for Um You know put the The scraps and the #1 dish water # 456: #2 Well we just # called it a garbage pail. Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: That's all. Interviewer: Did you ever hear um 456: Or you just make what scraps in a ball and dump it out on the ball and you know some cooking pot or something. Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: I don't know different people do different things. Interviewer: Did you ever hear um 456: Now this {NW} Uh all these these things we're talking about Things that happened a long time ago you know we don't do those things now Interviewer: Mm-hmm Did you ever hear of swill bucket or slop Bucket or 456: Well I've heard of it but we never used it Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Used Well I have heard slop bucket too Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about um The things that people would cook in What different things did they have 456: Oh well there were some iron pots But mostly I think people used enamel ware Interviewer: Mm-hmm Did you ever see real old fashioned things like maybe for cooking on a fireplace 456: Well I've seen some but we never cooked on fire place I never saw anybody cook on #1 the fireplace. # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # What would you use nowadays say to fry eggs in 456: Mm just same thing you'd use Interviewer: #1 And what what would you call that # 456: #2 {NW} # Well frying pan Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Is that what you call it? Interviewer: Um 456: Or griddle. Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Well you know the griddle is the flat thing you cook the bread on Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: But the frying pan is Is deep enough to put the grease in #1 of course or # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: we use deep fat fryers. Interviewer: Mm-hmm Did you ever see a kind of frying pan that had little legs on it 456: Mm-hmm Never had one but I've seen them Interviewer: Do you remember what that was called? 456: Those those you could sit in the #1 fireplace. # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: You know But we never did it and I never we never had any Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about uh The um The big Black thing that you'd h- That people Would um Use to heat up water to boil clothes in Did you ever see one of those 456: Mm-hmm Uh pot We just called it a wash pot Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Course It wasn't we didn't wash in it Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm # 456: #2 We just # boiled the clothes in there. And uh We used to have one when I was real small in our backyard And a colored woman came up there and Did it you know Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But uh Most of the time through the years we sent the clothes to the quarters it was Interviewer: mm-hmm 456: It was a little while that uh We used this pot in the backyard and then there was a colored woman that came and um Took care of them Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But that's what we called it just a wash pot Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Course The actual scrubbing we used uh These Uh big old wash tubs you know Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: You use one for washing and one for rinsing or maybe more than one for rinsing Interviewer: Mm-hmm Did um people raise cane in this area 456: My daddy did Interviewer: #1 What did # 456: #2 He's the only # one I know He didn't raise it for making syrup or anything like that it was just for For chewing Interviewer: Mm-hmm Did you ever see anyone make syrup 456: No I've Been um I've seen it in the movies and I've seen Where oh Relatives that lived in the country you know I've seen where they made it and I knew that they How they ground it And the horse pulling the things around you know and I've seen it I have seen Oh one time I saw some cooking Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm # 456: #2 Cooking # the syrup. Interviewer: What'd they #1 cook it in # 456: #2 And they'd # skim it. Oh they had Huge troughs Um Some kind of metal troughs And they would skim the stuff off you know And uh As it it would go from one trough to another and they'd skim it off The s- the Waste off of it you know Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm # 456: #2 So that it would # Be clear When you'd go through But I know so much of that I've just I think one time I saw some Somebody cooking syrup Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But I didn't see the whole process Interviewer: You know what they call that Big Thing that could hold about sixty gallons that That they'd cook the syrup in 456: I don't know They may have called it a drum. Interviewer: Mm-hmm And um say if you wanted to um Heat up some water to make some tea in You might make it in a tea 456: Tea pot. Interviewer: Or the The thing that um It's got the The spout to it and everything 456: Well we just call it tea pot Interviewer: Uh-huh What about um A word that starts with a K 456: What? {C: background noise} Interviewer: A word that starts with a K {C: background} 456: I'm sorry uh I didn't understand your question {NS} Aux: Hello. 456: Hello. {NS} Aux: Uh {NS} This is my wife #1 here. # Aux 2: #2 {X} # I'm Paul Smith I {C: name should be beeped out} #1 sell {X} # Aux: #2 sells fence and # #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Barbara Rutledge. {C: name should be beeped out} # Aux 2: Hi. Aux: Have a seat #1 Paul # Aux 2: #2 Alright. # He's got a coat that's a little too big and I'm gonna Pin it up. 456: Mm-hmm I see Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a kittle or a kettle? 456: Kettle uh-huh. {NS} Interviewer: Did you ever call the wash cloth the the kettle? 456: Mm-mm {NS} Interviewer: And um Something that That you could um Put flowers in if you went out and cut some flowers you'd put them in a 456: Vase. Interviewer: Okay. #1 What if you # 456: #2 Or a # Well {C: background} Just different different kinds of containers they wouldn't even have Necessarily #1 be a vase # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And um Say if you were Setting a the table You'd give everyone a plate and then next to the plate you'd give them a {multiple speakers} To eat with you'd have a 456: Well your silver Knife fork and spoon but Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay # 456: #2 we just # we had the same things we have now. Interviewer: What um #1 Say nowadays if you serve steak # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: I might use steak knives. Interviewer: #1 Okay and um # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Say if the You say after she washes the dishes then she what them in clear water? 456: Rinse. Interviewer: You say so she 456: Would rinse them R-I-N-S-E. Interviewer: And um the cloth or rag used when you're washing dishes 456: Call it a dish cloth or dish rag. Interviewer: Okay 456: Either way. Interviewer: And drying dishes 456: Mm-hmm Well we'd usually say #1 dish towel # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: for dr- for the 456: Ones that we use for drying. Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about Bathing your face 456: Well in the old days as I said they We had this uh wash stand with #1 a pitcher in the # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: mm-hmm 456: #1 And the bowl that you would wash and if you were uh # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: outdoors There might be a Pump or a Long time ago there'd be #1 a pump outdoors as well as inside # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: And uh if you were out playing you know you but there was a pan there a wash pan there #1 And you could run wash up # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: #1 Face and hands # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: There at least your hands #1 you know before you go to meals. # Aux: #2 {X} # Yeah. We did that outside sometimes I mean out on 456: #1 back on the porch # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} 456: #1 You know near the kitchen # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} 456: But Interviewer: #1 What about a {X} # 456: #2 Course after # #1 after we # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: had um water in the house you know Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Uh after we had um City water Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Course we had our bathrooms indoors and And um It's just like it is now Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: And that's been quite a long time Interviewer: What would you call the The cloth or rag you use to bathe your face with 456: #1 It's a wash rag # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: #1 Wash or wash rag or wash cloth # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 Okay # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 And um # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Say if you were gonna Turn on the water you'd go to the sink and turn on the 456: Spicket Aux: {X} Interviewer: And um something similar to that outside that you could hook your hose up to 456: Well it'd be the same thing It'd just be an outside spicket Interviewer: Okay What about on a barrel 456: On a barrel Interviewer: Uh-huh would you call it the same use the term say on a water barrel Would you call that a spicket 456: #1 No I suppose you could I don't know # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} Interviewer: Okay 456: Never had one Aux: {X} Interviewer: And um Did you ever hear of a A stand of lard And um say you wanted to To pour some water into A Body with a narrow mouth something like a coke bottle you'd Use 456: Funnel. Interviewer: Okay 456: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And if you were driving horses and wanted them to go faster you'd hit them with a 456: Whip Interviewer: And um Say if you bought some Fruit at the store down there the grocer would put it in a 456: Mm he'd just uh put it in a A bag Interviewer: Okay What would that 456: Shopping bag uh Uh-huh What would that be made out Interviewer: #1 of? # 456: #2 Or # grocery bag Usually paper If you buy shopping bags course they can be made out of anything. Interviewer: Mm-hmm And um What did Say fifty pounds of flour Used to come in Twenty-five or fifty pounds 456: I don't know we never did I think I used to get them in barrels but we never did Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Buy it like that Interviewer: Or what if it's something out of cloth They'd come in 456: Flour sack Interviewer: Okay And um What about feed For cattle You know that That kind of rough cloth Do you know what I mean? Aux: {X} 456: Well you'd just call them feed sacks I suppose Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: I don't know. Interviewer: You know that that rough brown cloth 456: Oh I know what you're talking about now that um Uh {NS} You can make {C: distorted audio} Beautiful things out of those things and art things I can't remember right now I think I've been Interviewer: Did you ever call it tow sack or croker sack? 456: Croker uh-huh {NS} I don't know how it's spelled {C: static, background speech} I've just heard it. #1 I've never seen it spelled. I don't know. # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What did you hear it? 456: #1 Croker it sounded like croker sack to me # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: #1 But I don't know how # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: #1 I don't know how it really is supposed to be that's just the way I've heard it # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Mm-hmm Aux: {X} Interviewer: And um Say if someone was Was gonna take some Corn to the mill to be ground Did you ever hear an expression for the amount of corn that you'd take 456: Mm-hmm I don't know it could #1 be # Aux: #2 {X} # 456: #1 Any measurement I suppose # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Mm-hmm Aux: {X} 456: #1 Bushel or half bushel or peck or # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: I don't know. As I said that's out of my range Interviewer: Uh What about if someone went outside to And got as much wood as he could carry With both his arms #1 You'd say he had # 456: #2 Could just say # a load of wood. Interviewer: Okay #1 Oh # 456: #2 We # had a stack of wood in the yard and we'd bring a load of wood in Interviewer: Mm-hmm Do you ever call that an arm? Aux: {X} #1 {X} # 456: #2 No. # Interviewer: Huh? 456: You mean an armload? Interviewer: Yeah what would you #1 say? # 456: #2 Well # you could if you wanted to we just say load of wood. Course we We wouldn't need a Wagon load or anything like that cause it's just bringing a personal load into the kitchen. Interviewer: Mm-hmm #1 Did you ever hear the # 456: #2 {X} # Interviewer: The expression a turn of wood 456: Mm-hmm Aux 2: Yeah. Aux: Oh is that right? Interviewer: And um Say if the If the light wasn't burning you'd have to screw in a new Nowadays 456: Well I I don't understand your #1 question # Interviewer: #2 That # that thing there You'd have to sc- If uh It wasn't burning you'd have to change the 456: Change the bulb? Interviewer: Okay And uh Someone's gonna carry the wash up to hang it on the line you might carry it out in a clothes 456: Clothes basket. I don't understand now what um What value Uh these questions are to you in your report? Because we live here just like they do everywhere else and we do have we have the same things we have the same {NS} I don't know we h- we probably s- Call these things the same thing you do now way back in the early days it might have been Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 456: #2 Different # Expressions but Aux: {X} Interviewer: #1 Well it # 456: #2 I just # don't understand. Interviewer: There are several different expressions Even now like um 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: What you call a croker sack Um My father grew up in Alabama and he called it gunny sack 456: A what? Interviewer: #1 Gunny sack. # 456: #2 Gunny sack. # I've heard that term. {C: distorted audio} But I didn't realize that's what they were talking about. Interviewer: Uh-huh Or Um tow sack or Um There's a lot of different #1 expressions # 456: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: And then Some of these here They're just different um Different Ways of pronouncing You know 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: So it's It's pretty useful 456: #1 Mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 With the # I know it sounds That some of these things you know that there couldn't be any difference in In what people would say But there really is Do you remember um On the barrel The the Things that would run around the barrel to hold the wood in place Do you remember what they were called 456: No S- My daddy used to make uh barrels Interviewer: #1 The the # 456: #2 I guess # the pieces of wood were called staves weren't they? Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: And the uh Metal band what the Metal bands that went around them to hold them together Um I don't remember Interviewer: Did you ever hear hoops or hoops? 456: Barrel hoops. Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: And um Something Like a barrel that Nails used to come in 456: Keg Interviewer: Mm-kay 456: Those are those'll be small Interviewer: Mm-hmm Say if you opened a bottle and then wanted to close it back up you Might stick in a 456: {D: Huh} Well we just call them stopper. Interviewer: Uh-huh What what would that be made out of 456: Cork Interviewer: Mm-hmm And um #1 This is # 456: #2 Could be # rubber. Interviewer: Uh-huh A musical instrument that You play like this 456: Well we usually called it a harp. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But uh Or a mouth organ {NW} Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: We usually said harp though. Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about something that would go like this Did you ever see that 456: I don't know whether I know what you're talking about. Interviewer: Did you ever hear Jew's 456: Oh Jew's harp Jew's harp. Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Mm-hmm We usually just called it har- a harp Interviewer: And um Something that you'd you'd pound nails with would be a 456: Hammer Interviewer: And um Say if The these These questions may be a little Specific But um Talking about a wagon The long wooden piece that comes between the horses 456: The tongue. Interviewer: Okay 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: And If you have a horse and a buggy You have to back the horse between the 456: I don't know I've forgotten Interviewer: And um On a wagon wheel You'd have the hub and then The spokes'd come out and they'd fit in the 456: Mm I don't know There would be uh the rim of the Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Of the wheel but I don't know of any other name for it Interviewer: Is the rim the metal part that touches the ground 456: Yeah I would think so Interviewer: Uh-huh And um Say if you have a Horse hitched to a wagon The bar of wood that the traces are fastened to Did You're not Familiar with that 456: #1 No # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Um do you ever hear swingletree or singletree or 456: Oh well I probably have but it didn't mean that Much to me Interviewer: Yeah Say if a If a man had a load of wood in his wagon and he was driving along you'd say that he was Doing what 456: Well I guess he was just transporting wood Interviewer: Mm-hmm Do you ever hear of hauling wood or 456: #1 Oh hauling wood yes uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # What's that? 456: Hauling uh-huh Hauling'd be a good word Interviewer: Okay And um The thing that the The wheels of the wagon fit into that that comes across you'd call that the 456: The axle Interviewer: Okay And um Say if there was a log across the road you might say I tied a chain To it and I What it out of the way 456: I don't know Interviewer: Well you could say Pulled it out of the way or Another word you might use would be I 456: I drug it Interviewer: Okay And you say we have what many logs out of that road 456: Well You could say we have drug Interviewer: Okay And um What'd you The first thing that you'd use to To break up the ground with #1 In the spring # 456: #2 A plow # Interviewer: Uh-huh Did you hear of Different kinds of plows #1 Hear any different {X} # 456: #2 Well um # My daddy had a little garden plow Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Just a little small plow Interviewer: Mm-mm 456: And then a hand plow {C: background speech, distorted audio} or a plow that would be pulled by An animal Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about something with teeth in it that could break up the ground even finer than a plow Aux: Harrow. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of that? #1 Harrow or # 456: #2 Mm-hmm # Interviewer: harrow? 456: yeah but I don't know too much about farming from those Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: We had a little garden plow daddy always kept a small Garden plow he did have A little hand plow and then he If he wanted to Go deeper you know he'd use a larger plow that um Used an animal to pull it It'd be too much for him Interviewer: Say if someone #1 was # 456: #2 That was # just in the garden you #1 know. # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # Say if you were gonna uh Chop a log or Um Saw Saw some boards and A frame that you might set the log in Maybe an egg shaped frame Did you ever see one of those 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: What if um What about something you could lay boards across to saw them 456: Well These things that they call horses don't they Two of them and lay the Boards across them Interviewer: And um You say if You'd straighten your hair using a comb and a 456: Brush Interviewer: Okay if you were going to use that you'd say you were going to 456: I'd just say I was going to brush my hair {C: distorted audio} Interviewer: #1 Okay # 456: #2 Comb it. # Interviewer: And um 456: {NW} Interviewer: You'd sharpen a straight razor on a leather 456: Strap. Interviewer: And the thing that you put in a pistol 456: Bullet Interviewer: Okay or or another name for that 456: I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear cart? 456: Mm-mm Interviewer: Cartridge or {X} 456: Oh cartridge uh-huh sure. Interviewer: And uh Something that the children can play on you take a board and lay it across a trestle and It'd go up and #1 down. # 456: #2 See-saw. # Interviewer: Huh 456: See-saw. Interviewer: Okay And if some children were playing on that you'd say they were 456: You'd say they're see-sawing Interviewer: Mm-kay And um Did you ever hear of taking a board and Fixing it at both ends and children would jump on it 456: Mm-hmm I don't know what you called it though Interviewer: Was it built kind of like a see-saw or 456: Well Uh the ones that I've seen would be Something in the middle it was fastened to But it would be loose so that it could go up and #1 down. # Aux: #2 It'd # be lower to the ground too Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about something that um You'd take a plank and Anchor it in the middle and it It would Swing around and around 456: Mm I don't know would you call it merry go round Interviewer: Mm-hmm Any older names for that Flying Jenny or #1 flying # 456: #2 No. # Interviewer: horse or 456: Merry-go-rounds {C: distorted audio} the only name #1 I know # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # And you might tie a A long rope to a tree limb and put a seat on it and make a 456: Swing. Interviewer: And uh something that you You'd carry coal in would be a 456: Well a coal bucket I suppose I {D: don't know} Interviewer: Okay And um the thing that runs through the stove up to the chimney The 456: The pipe stove pipe? Interviewer: Okay 456: But to me that is it's We called we called it chimney though we called the pipe chimney. Interviewer: Uh-huh Um Say if you were gonna move bricks or something heavy like that You might put them in a little Vehicle that Has a Little wheel up front and two handles 456: I uh Interviewer: Do you ever hear wheel Wheel Barrow or wheel barrow 456: Oh {NW} I didn't know what {X} that we called wheel barrow Interviewer: Okay 456: You know for Picking up leaves and that sort of #1 thing # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: Trash. {NS} Getting it out of the way and Interviewer: What did people use to um Sharpen their tools on 456: Uh would that be a lathe L-A-T-H-E. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Or a {NS} Interviewer: What about something that would Big thing um That would turn around and around that you could use to To sharpen an ax or something on 456: I don't know what you call it Interviewer: Grinding rock maybe. 456: He said grinding rock. Interviewer: Did you ever 456: But I don't I haven't have had many experiences with anything like that Interviewer: Uh-huh What's 456: Seen them in the movies Interviewer: Uh-huh Did you ever see something Small that you could hold in your hands And sharpen a knife on 456: A knife sharpener Interviewer: Or some Did you ever hear of wet 456: Whetstone. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 456: #2 Whetstone. # Mm-hmm Interviewer: Did you used to have those? 456: I think I have a piece in the jar now I have a little piece of something About this long that I use to Sharpen my knives Interviewer: Mm-hmm And um The thing that people drive nowadays You'd call that a 456: Hmm You mean automobile? Interviewer: Uh-huh #1 Any other names # 456: #2 We just call it # A car. Interviewer: Okay 456: Or auto Interviewer: And um Say if If something was squeaking to lubricate you'd say you had to 456: Grease it Interviewer: And so yesterday he 456: uh-huh he greased it he oiled it Or whatever you want to say - Interviewer: And if grease got all over your hands you'd say your hands were all 456: They're greasy Oily Interviewer: The say if your door hinge was squeaky you'd put a few drops of 456: Well household oil on it Interviewer: Okay And um Did you ever hear of um Anybody making a lamp 456: Mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: How how was that done 456: Well Uh we have a cousin that uh got old uh milk pails that they had long time ago you\ #1 know? # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: And they'd um Lamps out of those Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: He'd use that for the base and then he'd attach a lamp to it and put a shade on it Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Decorate it up you know in keeping with Base Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And so those huge old Metal uh Milk bottles that they used a long long time ago Interviewer: Mm-hmm Did 456: But uh People have made lamps out of a lot of different things it's just a variety just {D: just} Take a piece of drift wood and use it for the #1 base and # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: {D: that shone} A light to it Interviewer: Did you ever hear of people making a A lamp using a ker- uh Kerosene lamp 456: #1 Mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 Themselves # 456: No I don't believe so We used to have kerosene lamps before we had electric lights Interviewer: Uh-huh Did you ever hear of something called a flambeau 456: Well I've heard of flambeau but I don't know what Much about it Was that a light? Interviewer: But Well so Um something that That people would make yourselves 456: Mm I don't know nothing about it Interviewer: Uh-huh And inside the tire of the car you have the inner 456: Inner tube Interviewer: And say if someone had just filled the boat and they were going to put it in the water for the first time You'd say that they were #1 going to # 456: #2 Launch it. # Interviewer: Huh 456: Launch it. Interviewer: Okay What different types of boats do people have around here 456: Well there's skiffs Those are little Small boats that they use a paddle with Or oar Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And Then they have larger boats that they use for fishing Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And um Um Then they had the larger boats still larger boats with cabins cruisers That sort of thing {C: distorted audio} Interviewer: Mm-hmm Did you ever hear of anything called a bateau 456: Bateau uh-huh that's sort of like skiff I think Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Just another word for it Interviewer: Where do you take the the skiff or the bateau 456: We- You can take them out on the lakes or out in the bay Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Usually do well I suppose a pond or Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Whether you wanted to Course I wouldn't think you'd use them in real rough water Interviewer: Mm-hmm I was wondering if it was Something you'd use particularly in In shallower areas or 456: No I would think so You just paddle around and Not real too far out Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: With those small boats I wouldn't think Interviewer: Say if a Woman wanted to buy a dress of a certain color You'd say she'd take along a little square of cloth #1 To use with her # 456: #2 Oh a sample # Interviewer: And um If she saw a dress that she liked very much she'd say the dress was very 456: Well I don't know Attractive whatever Interviewer: Okay Any other words 456: Well you could say it was cute or it's darling or it's precious or #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 456: use all kinds of words Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Course those words wouldn't mean anything some of them Interviewer: What might a woman wear over a dress in the kitchen 456: Apron Interviewer: And um to sign your name in ink you'd use a 456: Pen Interviewer: And to hold a baby's diaper in place 456: Tabs {NW} Pampers now safety pins But most of them don't use pins anymore Interviewer: Uh-huh Um 456: They use those little Diapers with With tabs on them that will stick Interviewer: And a dime is worth 456: Ten cents Interviewer: And um If it was real cold before you went outside you'd put on your 456: Sweater or coat Jacket Interviewer: Uh-huh And um What does a man wear to church on Sunday 456: He wears his Suit. Interviewer: Okay what what parts are there To the suit 456: Well Coat and pants I guess Interviewer: Any other name for pants 456: Trousers Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about a long time ago they used to wear three piece suits 456: Vest Interviewer: Okay And um Something that a man might might wear if he was working out around the On the farm 456: You're probably talking about overalls Interviewer: Okay 456: Or jumper suits Interviewer: Uh-huh And um You say that coat won't fit this year but last year it What perfectly 456: Hmm Just say it fit perfectly last year Interviewer: Okay And say if a if a man had an important interview and his clothes weren't in very good shape He'd go out and buy a brand 456: A brand new suit Interviewer: And um if you stuck a lot of things in your pockets it makes them 456: Bulgy Interviewer: Mm-kay And you say that shirt used to fit me until I washed it and it 456: {D: drew up} Shrank I don't how you would say I wonder what the past tense for that is Would shrink Shrank I don't know whether shrank is the right word or not Interviewer: Uh-huh You say um 456: #1 Or you could # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 456: might say it has shrunk Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: It has shrunk but it shrank I think that's right I don't know Interviewer: If a woman liked to put on good clothes you'd say she likes to 456: Well she likes to dress Interviewer: Mm-hmm Would you say that about a man? 456: Yes I would think so Interviewer: What if she likes to spend a lot of time in front of the mirror and you know 456: Primp Interviewer: Uh-huh Do you say that about a man? 456: I think you can because there's some of them that primp more than women do Interviewer: Uh-huh And a little um container you can carry coins in would be a 456: Coin purse Interviewer: Mm-kay And something that a woman might wear around her wrist 456: Wristwatch Interviewer: Or a #1 Piece of j- # 456: #2 Bracelet # Interviewer: Huh 456: Or a bracelet Interviewer: Okay And say if you had a lot of little things strung up together And put around your neck you'd call #1 that a # 456: #2 Necklace. # Interviewer: Or say if it was beads you'd call that a What of beads a 456: Well you could say a string of beads Interviewer: Uh-huh Would you ever say pair of beads 456: I wouldn't Interviewer: Mm-kay 456: Because pair is two And you'd have a bunch of beads on there Interviewer: Uh-huh What did uh Men used to wear to hold up their pants 456: Oh they used to use suspenders Interviewer: Mm-hmm And To hold over you when it rains you'd carry a 456: Umbrella Parasol Interviewer: Uh-huh And the last um thing that you put on a bed 456: Spread Interviewer: Any old fashioned thing? 456: I don't know if people used to put quilts on them Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But We never did we used something for over the quilt if we used a quilt Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Coverlet Interviewer: What's a coverlet? 456: Well it's a spread Interviewer: Is it something you'd Make or? 456: Not necessarily you'd buy A coverlet just like you would a spread just it just Spread is all it is Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Put on top of your sheets and your Uh covers whatever they are your Blankets or whatever you use Interviewer: Mm-hmm And at the head of the bed you'd put your head on a 456: Pillow Interviewer: Did you ever see anything um twice as long as a pillow 456: Are you talking about bolsters? Interviewer: Mm-hmm How #1 How far across # 456: #2 You'd use # The bolsters that would Go across the entire bed Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But it's not used for sleeping it's just for For mak- for using it on the bed when it's it's made up Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: If it's not being used Interviewer: And um Say if you had a Um A lot of Company maybe and didn't have enough beds for everyone for the children you might make a 456: A pallet Interviewer: #1 Okay # 456: #2 On the floor # Interviewer: What different types of land are there? 456: Don't know what you're referring to Interviewer: Well say um A flat um Land along a #1 stream or # 456: #2 Oh well are you # talking about flatlands or hilly lands? Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 456: #2 Talking about that? # Interviewer: What about um 456: Well we have flat lands around here Interviewer: Mm-hmm Do but along a stream especially that's The real rich Soil good for Did you ever hear um bottom land or lowland or 456: I would guess I've heard of 'em Interviewer: What did you hear that called? 456: Well I've heard it called bottom land or lowlands Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: But we don't have them around here Interviewer: Mm-hmm What types of land 456: We just have plains. Flatlands here because we don't we don't have any hills around Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Flat country. Interviewer: What about um A grass land that's Um Maybe good for For raising cattle or something 456: Well again that's out in the country Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Our grass lands are just for Making yards look pretty and so forth Lawns Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a a meadow or prairie 456: Oh yes Interviewer: What's that 456: Hmm Interviewer: What did you hear? 456: I've heard the words Interviewer: Did did people use that Was that a common word around here? 456: Mm-mm Interviewer: Just some- just something you #1 read? # 456: #2 No # we don't have any prairies and we don't have any Any of those around here so we don't use the word very #1 much. # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 456: Unless we're talking about some place else Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about um Land that's got water standing in it Good Filled to #1 the top. # 456: #2 You # talking about ponds? Lakes? Interviewer: Or something um Maybe some trees and and sort of wet Area Where you might find alligators 456: Oh Well swamp lands Interviewer: Uh-huh What do what are you talking about swamp or are you picturing something that has trees in it or #1 not? # 456: #2 mm-hmm # Swampy and water and Trees Flowers Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Or just whatever grows naturally Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: In that area Interviewer: Is this fresh water 456: Well I would think so. Interviewer: Uh-huh What about the long um Along the the gulf or the bay that Um Sort of a a wet place where you have a lot of that 456: A lot of grassy stuff. Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: Oh I can't think of the word that we use for that. People get out there to To Shoot the ducks Interviewer: Mm-hmm Do you ever talk about a marsh or a bayou? 456: Marsh mm-hmm Marsh lands Interviewer: Uh-huh is that That that That you were referring to 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: What about bayou? 456: Well bayou Uh to me is a is a body of water Interviewer: Uh-huh 456: We have a bayou here Uh my daughter has built Just b- recently built a home right um On the bayou Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And uh there Are houses on both sides all the way Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And That to me that's what bayou is Interviewer: Is it 456: It runs into the bay Interviewer: Uh-huh It's smaller than a bay? But 456: #1 Oh it's just a # Interviewer: #2 Kind of like that # 456: It's Just a narrow body of water Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm # 456: #2 and it runs # into the bay. Interviewer: What about something that um People have made by cutting a 456: Ditches Interviewer: Uh-huh Or Say if it's big enough for a boat to go through 456: Canal Interviewer: Mm-kay And um Say if If you had a Some land that was a little bit swampy and you wanted to Get the water off you'd say you wanted to 456: Drain it Interviewer: And the things that you dug 456: Ditches Drain ditches. Interviewer: Uh-huh What about something along the The side of the road to carry the water off 456: Well those would just be ditches Interviewer: Mm-hmm And say if you had heavy rain and the The rain water cut out a little Channel Would you call that a ditch or 456: Well I don't know could be Trench? Interviewer: Mm-hmm What if the The water washed up just a huge area maybe about this wide and real deep 456: Oh well what you'd call it a wash out Interviewer: Okay And um What different types of Of say You might say we stuck a big crop in that field because the soil is very 456: Rich Interviewer: Or another word you might use The soil is very f- 456: Fertile Interviewer: Okay What different types of soil are there? 456: I don't know There are a lot of different types of soils clay Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Sand {D: look}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Well there's a lot of different Interviewer: Did you ever hear of something called loam? #1 Or loom? # 456: #2 mm-hmm # Yes Interviewer: What's that? 456: I don't know. Interviewer: What um different Types of streams do you have in this area Or what are some of the names of some of the the streams you have? 456: Well I don't I don't know the bayous we just call bayou And uh we don't have any eh streams right Here now that there's a canal down you know a few miles from here There's another canal that um That comes um You know Out {D: back behind the bayous} Out in that that area Interviewer: Do what's the #1 name of it # 456: #2 but uh # I I don't know we just call it the canal Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Then this big canal Uh Down up toward Wewahitchka We have to cross to go to Wewahitchka we just call it the canal {X} Interviewer: Is that that There's one road um You know three Three eighty-six #1 you know that? # 456: #2 I don't # know about three eighty-six Interviewer: Well on the road from say um Around the St Joe beach Uh Up to Wewahitchka You know there's a bridge that you cross Is that crossing a river or Is that a canal or 456: Well there's a canal I think you're probably talking about the canal If you're going from We- St Joe to Wewahitchka The only way I know to go is across the canal Interviewer: Uh-huh Aux: That's in a coastal maybe 456: Well I know I don't know what it's called all I know is canal Interviewer: hmm Aux: We have two canals here One is the St Joe Canal out in Out in the bay And then a second then a coastal Canal that you cross between here and Wewahitchka out in White City That's what you call {NS} Interviewer: You mentioned a a little earlier a a branch 456: Oh that's just a little small body of water #1 that uh # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # 456: It's in the swampy areas you know it might cross the road Interviewer: mm-hmm 456: Course it doesn't now because the streets are paved but we just had old dirt roads then Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And uh we had to cross uh Wade across #1 this # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: water to get Where we're going there were two branches that we used to cross Interviewer: Did they have names to them or? 456: No they were just branches. Interviewer: Uh-huh What about something larger than a branch? 456: Well uh Canals rivers I don't suppose you're referring to a river are you? Interviewer: I'd say uh from creek or #1 {X} # 456: #2 Creek? # Interviewer: Huh? 456: Yes. Interviewer: What's what was that? 456: Creek? A pond's the same thing isn't it Interviewer: A creek and a pond are #1 the same? # 456: #2 Aren't they # the same? Interviewer: Is that A What do you think of as pond? #1 Is that # 456: #2 I don't # know Ralph is it a creek a stream or is just like a lake? Pond Aux: A creek 456: Cross the creek Aux: A creek is a 456: #1 It's a is it a stream? # Aux: #2 {X} # It's Usually it's Larger than a what you call a branch you know or But it's a moving stream it's a running stream #1 a creek is # 456: #2 Creek. # Cross the creek uh-huh Aux: I Unless it's a Affected by tide water Interviewer: Mm-hmm Aux: Now you do have some creeks that are affected by tide water Which is going Back and forth with the tide Interviewer: Mm-hmm Aux: But Ordinarily when they're not around uh Uh bay or anything like that why they They Just flowing stream all the time a creek is Interviewer: Mm-hmm Aux: Smaller than a river but larger that what you call a regular #1 branch you know # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # What are some of the rivers that you have around here? 456: Well We don't have any right around here. We don't have any rivers close by Interviewer: Mm-hmm If if you were getting tired Or something we could Stop for a while Or I could come back later 456: Well uh It is time for lunch and I expect he's getting hungry I'm not too hungry Interviewer: Yeah 456: And I have to fix something But um Do you have many more questions? Interviewer: Yeah I'd need to come back Later some time #1 And talk some more # 456: #2 Well I # Are you going to be in this area for a few days? Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Do do you know how long you'll be here? Interviewer: I'm not real sure um I was gonna talk to um mr Lupton Some I think Friday afternoon or Saturday afternoon 456: Well this is Wednesday Well um Could we make it sometime later nearer to the time you're gonna leave Because I've just got Dozens of letters I've #1 got to # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 456: write And uh I've That's Uh what I was doing when #1 you came # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: in you know and uh they have got to be taken care of right away Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Because it's This uh meeting is coming up Very soon and um w- They I need answers you know Interviewer: Yeah 456: And uh so I I really do need to be Working on it Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: So if you will Can come back nearer to the time that you're going Planning to leave I think it'd be better for me Interviewer: Mm-hmm Aux: Or morning time would be better than the afternoon #1 {NW} # 456: #2 Yeah # morning would be better than the afternoon You know it'd stand up about this high Interviewer: What have you been Aux: #1 using it for? # 456: #2 But # Well I haven't really haven't used it very much uh Christmas time When I first got it Um Had all the family together singing carols you #1 know and things # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: like that and I got the children that The little things they said Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: All that sort of thing And I've recorded uh music Organ and Piano and um {NW} I haven't really haven't used it um As much as I should have Interviewer: Mm-hmm I I've never worked with a A stereo Thing at all Is does it sound very good With the music Does it give you the 456: Well it sounds real good yes it gives sounds real good but I haven't used the stereo yet Um I have to have another speaker Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And uh I didn't when I Bought it I didn't realize it required two speakers and #1 I got # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: I only got the one that that came with it But To u- to use the stereo I have to get the other speaker and I am going to do it but I like to compose music I've done a lot of things and {NW} I would like to get them on tape you know so that my daughter can have it Interviewer: What um instrument do you play? 456: Piano and organ Interviewer: Piano and organ usually. 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: And you You taught that for 456: I taught piano I didn't teach organ I've let the children play Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Although a lot of times when they did real well on the piano I let them play the organ you know just a sort of reward But I didn't really teach them Interviewer: Oh There was one thing I forgot to To ask you The other day and Your How do you your first name 456: Maybel {C: this name should be beeped out} Interviewer: How do you s- 456: M-A-Y-B-E-L {C: should be beeped out} That's a little odd And because of the Y in it a lot people call me Maybelle but it isn't really {C: this name should be beeped out) Interviewer: Um We were talking about um Land Um A small rise in land you'd call a 456: Hill. Interviewer: Okay anything else 456: Well I don't know I think that's all I would call it Interviewer: And to to open the door you'd take hold of the door 456: Knob Interviewer: Do would you ever use that word knob talking about land? 456: Oh well I've {C: distorted audio} heard it used that way but um Not very #1 much # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # And something Much um Much bigger than a hill would be a 456: A mountain Interviewer: And um The rocky side of the mountain that drops off real sharp 456: Cliff Interviewer: Mm-kay and You're talking about more than one though You're talking about several 456: Oh Interviewer: #1 Or the {X} # 456: #2 You mean mountains # Interviewer: #1 Or the the # 456: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Talking about the cliff You talk about several 456: Cliffs Interviewer: And um A place where a boats stop and where freights unloaded 456: Dock Interviewer: Mm-kay any anything else 456: Oh Pier Interviewer: Okay what's the difference between a dock and a pier 456: Well I don't know I think that uh I think of a dock as being where as you said freight Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm # 456: #2 is # unloaded And a pier Maybe where or smaller Thing oh Where Uh You tie up your small boats Interviewer: Is this um Do you picture all of this as being on the The gulf or Salt water or 456: Well it could be anywhere there's water a pond or Or a lake The bay Now we we've uh Had a railroad dock Out in our bay Years ago And we called that a dock and then there was uh Where we went swimming Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And where we tied up little small boats we called a pier And it was not as far out Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: As the dock. Interviewer: The this railroad dock Is What do you mean by that? 456: Well uh It went way out into the water and the uh The ships came in floating Materials from this area Interviewer: And there was the the railroad line that #1 went up? # 456: #2 mm-hmm # the railroad the train went all the way out But that's been quite some time ago Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Course they do have Dock out there now for the ships Come out to the paper mill Interviewer: That's that dock is right next to the Mill in there 456: I think so mm-hmm Interviewer: I saw it A big ship coming in The other day and I didn't know exactly where it was gonna Dock what Um Say if you had some some water flowing along and then suddenly it dropped over you'd call that a 456: Fall Interviewer: And um What different types of roads are there? 456: Highway Interviewer: Mm-kay 456: Um Country roads Dirt roads Truck routes {NW} What else? Interviewer: Um What um What would you call a A road that has a a fence or Trees on both sides 456: Well Probably be but a country lane Interviewer: Mm-kay you think of a a lane as something that That How how do you picture a lane 456: Well just as you said Interviewer: That's got something on both sides of it 456: Mm-hmm And a wooded area Usually Interviewer: Mm-hmm And um the black sticky stuff that they use in making roads? 456: As- No not asphalt Uh Oh I can't think of it Interviewer: Well it The stuff that comes from the the pine trees I think 456: Oh that's tar Turpentine tar Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Then when it dri- dries it's rosin Interviewer: Mm-hmm And um Something that Say if they don't have a paved road Um But they put Uh what what might they have If it's a 456: A dirt road Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay # 456: #2 Clay # road Interviewer: And what if they put little rocks on it 456: Well It could be a shell road or a Well if it's rocks it wouldn't be shell of course but Uh we did have a shell {C: distorted audio} road Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: In this town To begin with the main part of town Interviewer: Was that oyster shells or 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Seems like that would be painful to walk on 456: Well they they were ground up you know They were in just little bits Pieces But the train when I was a tiny child uh The train came right through the middle of town Interviewer: Oh really? 456: And uh It it didn't come very far Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But Well the town didn't reach very far {NW} But it did come right through Uh Main Street I can remember seeing it When I was just a tiny child Interviewer: They've kind of Do they still um Is the railroad still as important Now as it Once was 456: Um Well it's not used as much in this area There was there's still a freight train Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: But there hasn't been a passenger train for a good many years And it's important to the uh Paper mill #1 brings # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: paper uh Mainly it brings wood in you know paper mill Interviewer: A road that um That leads up to a person's house 456: I don't know what you're referring to Interviewer: Well say say that The turn off from the main road that that goes up to a person's house 456: I don't know Interviewer: Well the What do you have out there where you Park your car 456: Driveway Interviewer: Mm-kay And um What about a A smaller Um Well something that That you could maybe um Drive your the cattle over Say between a house and a barn or 456: Oh I think they call that a cattle gap don't {C: distorted audio} they Interviewer: Okay And um something along the The side of the street for people to walk on 456: Sidewalk Interviewer: And um Say if you were Well the If you were walking along and some Animal jumped out and scared you you might Say I picked up a 456: Stick? Interviewer: Okay and I #1 what? # 456: #2 Hit him? # Interviewer: Or I what it at #1 him # 456: #2 uh-huh # Oh we just say threw it at him Interviewer: Mm-kay any other words that people might use? 456: Well you might say I hurled it at him Interviewer: What about chunked or #1 {X} # 456: #2 Chunked? # well chunked is used too Interviewer: Do you use that word much yourself 456: No Interviewer: How does how does it sound to you does it seem a little Uneducated or country or 456: Well I've never thought too much about it I I think uh I would prefer threw Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Instead of chunked Interviewer: Okay and say if you went to someone's house and Knocked on the door and no one answered you'd say well I guess he's not 456: He's not at home Interviewer: And um Something that that people drink for breakfast 456: Coffee Interviewer: Mm-kay and if you were going to prepare some you'd say you were going to 456: I'd just say I was going to make some coffee Interviewer: And um 456: Some people would say brew a pot of coffee Interviewer: Mm-kay 456: Or they would say that about about tea {C: distorted audio} Interviewer: Mm-hmm And talking about putting milk in coffee you'd say some people like it 456: With cream Interviewer: Okay or Or if they don't they like it 456: Well they liked it black Interviewer: Mm-kay Any other word for black coffee? 456: Well I don't know Just have Take mine without sugar or cream Interviewer: Mm-kay And um say someone was walking in your direction you'd say he's coming straight 456: To toward me Interviewer: And um if you'd gone into town and Happened to see a friend of yours that you hadn't Counted on seeing you'd say This morning I just happened to 456: Run into {NW} Interviewer: Okay And uh If a little girl is given the same name that her mother has you'd say they named a child 456: For her mother. Interviewer: And um 456: Or after her mother Interviewer: Mm-kay And these are some Animals some A kind of animal that barks 456: Dog Interviewer: Huh 456: A dog {D: and a squirrel} Interviewer: Okay If you wanted your dog to attack another dog you'd tell him to 456: {NW} Sic him on {C: laughing} Interviewer: Okay 456: {NW} Interviewer: And what would you call just a a mixed breed dog you didn't know what kind he was 456: A mongrel Interviewer: Mm-kay What about a One of those little small noisy dogs 456: Well What about him? What do you want to know #1 about him? # Interviewer: #2 Any # any special names not Not breed names but just any 456: Mmm I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of {X} 456: Well that's a name of a breed isn't it? Interviewer: What What's a {X} look like is it 456: Oh I don't know I don't know Much about dogs Interviewer: Would you have um {X} Term for a Just a sort of worthless dog And um Say if you had a A real mean dog you might say You better be careful that dog'll 456: Well they could bite Interviewer: And you'd say #1 yes and # 456: #2 You could say # he's a bad dog Interviewer: Okay You say yesterday the dog 456: Bit Somebody Interviewer: And the person had to go to the doctor after he got 456: Bitten Interviewer: Do you ever hear the expression dog bit So and so got dog bit 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Who would say that Would 456: Who would say it? Interviewer: Yeah would would you use that that expression yourself? 456: Well I don't know Probably say dog bitten Interviewer: Okay 456: I don't know I really ain't never had thought about it Interviewer: And um The kind of animal that you milk is a 456: Cow Interviewer: And um What do you call the male 456: A bull Interviewer: Mm-kay was that was that word always nice to use? 456: Well I never thought it was a very nice word Interviewer: What 456: But People use it in a lot of different ways say oh that's just bull #1 you # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: you know what you're talking about There's nothing to it Interviewer: But um Talking about the The cow that would If you didn't say bull When you were young what did you call it? 456: Well Steer? Interviewer: Would would there um Would you use a The steer to mean Would that mean the same thing as a bull 456: Well it's the same sex {NW} But I don't I don't know Interviewer: Was I was wondering if um If you said something like male cow or Something like #1 that. # 456: #2 No # I've never heard that Interviewer: Mm-kay And um A little cow when it's first born 456: A calf Interviewer: And if it's a female it's a 456: I don't know I don't think I Interviewer: Say if um if you had a cow that was expecting a calf you'd say the cow was going to 456: Going to have a calf Interviewer: Did you ever hear any other expression for that Drop a calf or find a calf or #1 {X} # 456: #2 Well # I've heard of it I've Find a calf Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Um I've heard uh She's going to calve Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm # 456: #2 too. # Interviewer: and the Kind of um Animals people might use to plow with 456: Mules usually I #1 think. # Interviewer: #2 mm-kay # And if you had two of those hitched together you'd call that a 456: A brace Or a Or a pair Interviewer: And um The animals that you ride are called 456: Horses Interviewer: And the female is a 456: Mare Interviewer: And the male 456: Stallion Interviewer: Mm-kay any other names for that 456: {NW} Interviewer: Does the word stallion sound a little bit vulgar to you 456: No I've never thought of it Interviewer: I mean it doesn't It doesn't strike you the same way #1 bull? # 456: #2 No. # Interviewer: And um You say everyone around here likes to what horses 456: Ride Interviewer: And you say last year he 456: Rode Interviewer: And uh but I've never 456: Ridden Interviewer: And if someone couldn't stay on the horse you'd say I fell 456: Fell off Interviewer: Okay say say that whole thing Fell 456: Fell off the horse Interviewer: And a little child that went to sleep in bed and woke up on the Floor in the morning say I guess I must've 456: Rolled out of bed Interviewer: And um The things that you put on the horse's feet to protect him 456: Uh shoes Interviewer: And um a game that you play with that 456: Oh yeah horseshoes Interviewer: Did you ever see um See a game similar Only played with rings instead of horseshoes? 456: Yes uh um The game is called horseshoes though I mean the game that I know Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: They use rings and #1 they # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: throw them just like you do the horse shoes But they still call it horseshoes Interviewer: Mm-kay And the parts of the horse's feet that you put the shoes on 456: The hoof Interviewer: And the plural of that is 456: Hooves Interviewer: And um Talking about sheep Um The male sheep is called a 456: Ewe Interviewer: Mm-kay That's that's a female though I think Do you know what the male is called 456: Mm-mm Interviewer: #1 What do people raise # 456: #2 What is it # Interviewer: A ram or #1 buck. # 456: #2 Oh that's # what I meant. Did you ever hear them Interviewer: #1 called # 456: #2 Oh yes # I've heard 'em called that Just Interviewer: They never had sheep around here What do people raise sheep for 456: Well for wool And for food Interviewer: Mm-kay And um Talking about hogs When it's when they're first born they're called 456: Pigs Interviewer: And then when they get a little older they're 456: Well they're hogs when they're grown Pigs and hogs are all I know Interviewer: Mm-kay what about the female 456: Mmm Sow Interviewer: #1 Mm-kay # 456: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What if she's never had pigs Do you know what she's called then 456: Hmm Interviewer: And the male Huh 456: No I don't know Interviewer: What about the male 456: Well I've heard the word boar That's another word that Offends me But uh I don't know Interviewer: What would you say if you wouldn't say boar 456: I don't know I'd just say male hog Interviewer: Mm-kay And um Say The the stiff hairs that a hog has on its back 456: Mm Interviewer: Or in a brush you know those little In a hair brush 456: Those are bristles. Interviewer: Okay And the The big teeth that a hog has 456: I don't know I can't think of it Interviewer: Or on an elephant 456: Tusk Interviewer: Mm-kay And the things that you put the food in for the hog 456: Trough Interviewer: Mm-kay 456: Or a Well you have a water trough But you can also put food in a trough Interviewer: And if you had three or four #1 of those # 456: #2 Or in a # bucket Interviewer: Mm-kay You talk about three or four 456: Three or four hogs Interviewer: Or the The trough you talk about three or #1 four # 456: #2 Oh # Troughs Interviewer: And do you have any names for a hog that's grown up wild? 456: A wild hog Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: Wild boar Interviewer: Ever heard #1 pinewood # 456: #2 Not quite. # Interviewer: {D: saluda} 456: No. Interviewer: Say if um if you had a pig and you didn't want it to grow up to be a boar or a male hog what would you say you were going to do to him 456: I'm gonna slaughter him Interviewer: Or well say you You want Change him so he can't be used for breeding you'd say you were going to 456: I don't know Interviewer: Well Okay but Talking about castrating Is is there any other Expression you've heard besides castrate 456: Nope I don't know much about hogs {NW} Interviewer: Would you know what um What the hog is called after he's been castrated 456: mm-mm Interviewer: And um The noise that a calf makes when it's being weaned You'd say the calf began to 456: {D: Let's see} do the same thing that a sheep would do well I would Interviewer: Mm-kay #1 And uh # 456: #2 I don't # know whether that word's used for calf or not Interviewer: Yeah that's that's one of the words that's used for calf Um What about a cow What noise does she make 456: She moos Interviewer: And a horse 456: Hmm The donkey hee-haws {NW} I don't know {C: laughing} what the horse does Interviewer: The general noise that a horse makes 456: A neigh Interviewer: Or the one general-er than that Have you ever heard whinny or #1 Knicker # 456: #2 Yeah # I've Interviewer: {D: laugh} 456: Yeah I've heard those I've read Interviewer: What did you hear it? 456: Hmm? Interviewer: What did you hear it called? 456: Well I've uh I don't know that I've heard the word as much as I've read it I've Seen it A number of times whinny or neigh Interviewer: Mm-hmm And say if you had some Horses and mules and cows and so forth and They were getting hungry you'd say you had to Go out and feed the 456: Feed the stock Interviewer: What if you're talking about hens and turkeys and geese and so forth 456: Well Feed the poultry Interviewer: Mm-kay And a hen on a nest of eggs is called a 456: A layer {NW} Interviewer: And um A place where you keep hens 456: Mm-hmm chicken coop Interviewer: Mm-kay And you know when you're when you're eating um Chicken a bone that goes like this 456: That is the pulley Interviewer: Okay 456: Pulley bone Interviewer: And are there any stories about that 456: Yes I was a little child I was taught that you could make a wish Interviewer: Mm-hmm 456: And two people hold the bones and the one that got the biggest side of the bone With the largest piece would get their wish granted Interviewer: Mm-kay What do you call the inside parts of a pig or a calf that you eat 456: I don't know A lot of different inside parts Interviewer: What what are some of the The parts that you eat 456: Oh I don't know Uh pig Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm # 456: #2 Well # you have a ham You have the shoulder Interviewer: #1 But # 456: #2 you can # have the r- #1 ribs # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 456: And you have back bone And just a lot of other things Interviewer: What about the the insides though 456: I don't know what you're talking about Interviewer: Well something like liver or Something like that #1 or # 456: #2 Well # Liver and lights from pork Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about the part that you sometimes eat and sometimes Stuff sausage in 456: Oh you're talking about the Mmm Well the nice word for those are casings When you put sausage in them Interviewer: Any other word for it? 456: Yes but I can't think of it Interviewer: What about a dish that you can make out of that but you have to clean it out #1 really # 456: #2 Yeah # I know what you're talking about but let's see Chitlins Interviewer: Okay Did you ever hear of um Haslet or harslet or {C: pork entrails} 456: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Pluck or 456: Mm-mm Interviewer: And um 456: What is that for What does it mean? Interviewer: I think that I've heard haslet as Like haslet stew that you could make from the liver and other things that Say if it was time to feed The stock and do your chores you'd say that it was 456: I don't know I would just say that Interviewer: #1 What # 456: #2 It's time # to feed them Interviewer: Mm-kay And um Now this Did you ever hear um Anybody call a cow Say to get her out from the pasture 456: I never did hear anybody call one Interviewer: What about um Any ever hear anybody call a calf or a Horse 456: Mm-mm Interviewer: What about um A sheep Or uh they didn't have that around here Um Do you ever hear anyone call hogs 456: I don't remember Ever hearing anybody call hogs Interviewer: Say um If you were Were milking a cow and wanted her to To stand still What would you tell her 456: Tell her to stay still Interviewer: Mm-kay Did Do you know how they get her to move her leg back And um What do you say to a mule or a horse to make them go left and right What about to get a horse started