461:  Probably the same that's happened uh like you said about this whet rock.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Whet uh I mean a a whit rock and a whet rock. Oh I don't know it's just one thing is I guess education is what it was.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Um is there a general name you have talking about cows and and horses and so forth? Would you have one general way to refer to all of?
461:  Yeah well now uh I'm talking about the uh goat is a herd
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Cows is a bunch.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Uh what I what I known uh when you were raised up to know okay. Uh I don't know I never did have enough horses you see what I talking about I don't know I'm just telling you what I'm used to.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But goats are somewhere like that and have bunch of hogs and a bunch of cows that's what you got a group.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  And uh I got a bunch of chickens.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Would you ever use the word um critters or stock or cattle to refer to to all of your animals?
461:  Uh now then I would this is how much stock you've got on your place well I mean I know now that that's that's goat that's all the livestock.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Horses and cows and so on. But back when I was coming up a young boy like that and raised never did refer to it uh well it was used very little the word stock.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  It was either I've got uh little bunch of cattle I got a big bunch of hogs or little bunch of hogs and so on like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} What about if you were talking about hens and turkeys and geese and so forth would you have one general name for all of them?
461:  Mm-hmm. Let's see I don't think so.
Interviewer:  And a a hen on a nest of eggs you would call a?
461:  Sitting hen
Interviewer:  And where do you keep hens?
461:  Where do I keep eggs?
Interviewer:  Hens
461:  In the in the hen house chicken house wait now.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  There wasn't no hen house it was a chicken house.
Interviewer:  What about um a place just for the mother hen and the little chicks?
461:  Coob
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Alright now there's another one. A chicken {NS} Excuse me {NW} Shrimp you like that?
Interviewer:  Uh yeah.
461:  Okay where were we at?
Interviewer:  Uh you talking about the place where the mother hen and the chicks. The coob.
461:  Oh yeah now look here Barbara I was learned taught that was a chicken coob. I'd I reckon you'd spell it C double O B.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  And not a chicken coop.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Okay see that one word on the end of that thing.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Okay. {NS}
Interviewer:  And um you know when you are eating chicken there is a bone that goes like this.
461:  Are you talking about the pulley bone?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Were there any stories about that?
461:  Oh yeah the one that got the the one short or the long
Interviewer:  Uh huh
461:  would be the first to marry.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh did you-
461:  I don't remember which one now but you know
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Drumstick
Interviewer:  Did you have a name for for the two bones the short end or the long end did you ever here those called um boy bone?
461:  No no no uh-uh
Interviewer:  And um
461:  Did you ever hear that story about the one that would marry the s- quickest?
Interviewer:  I hadn't heard that.
461:  The ever who got the longest well now listen I don't mem- I don't know whether it was the short one or the longest one
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  but you'd stick it under the table and pull it and the one would come out the longest would marry first you see.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  I don't know but that was a
Interviewer:  And if it if it was time to um feed the stock and do your chores you'd say that it was?
461:  Feed up
Interviewer:  Or is what time it was?
461:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Would you say ever say fodder time or chore time or
461:  No
Interviewer:  feeding time?
461:  Feeding time
Interviewer:  Okay and how do you call cows?
461:  How do I call cows?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Let's see {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Mm-kay what about um what do you say to make 'em stand still so you can milk 'em?
461:  Whoa
Interviewer:  You say that to a cow?
461:  Yeah Whoa now whoa whoa whoa
Interviewer:  What about to get her to back her move her leg back?
461:  Back it
Interviewer:  You'd you'd tell her that?
461:  Yeah back it
Interviewer:  Do you hit her then? Push on her no and I may push {NS} Uh-huh and um how do you call a calf?
461:  Calf?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Uh
Interviewer:  Or di- did you ever call the calf?
461:  No I don't think I ever called a ca-
Interviewer:  {NS} What about to make a a mule or a horse turn left or right?
461:  Gee to the right and haw to the left and whoa means stop.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Get up means go.
Interviewer:  Do you tell 'em um what if they are already moving but you want them to go faster what do you say to 'em? Do you tell 'em get up then or?
461:  Mm-hmm. get up.
Interviewer:  And um how do you call 'em to get them in and out of the pasture?
461:  {NW} I just whistle.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and um how do you call hogs?
461:  {NW} You taping this ain't you?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um did you ever hear anyone call sheep?
461:  No no I haven't. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about chickens?
461:  Chicky chicky chicky chicky chicky chicky
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and um say if you wanted to get the horses ready to go somewhere you'd say I wanna? What the horses? Before you hi-
461:  Hitch up
Interviewer:  Well before you hitch 'em up you have to?
461:  I don't know now.
Interviewer:  Well you the things that you have to put on 'em you say you have to?
461:  Put the uh the uh wait a minute britching?
Interviewer:  Or I was talking about the
461:  Saddles and harness?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Well now let me tell you something Barbara I know now I got to put the harness on
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  but back when I was coming up we got to put the the same thing now we would put breeching on 'em.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  It's the harness is what it was but they wo- the word breeching was used.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What would you say you'd say I have to what the horse? Now you could say I have to harness 'em what would you used to say?
461:  Hitch up
Interviewer:  Mm-kay
461:  Now listen when I say {X} back then when we'd say we got to hitch up then we'd know we'd have to have the breeching on {NW} that was the harness you see.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  To the hitch 'em to the wagon and all.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And when you're um driving a horse what you hold in your hands is the? To guide it?
461:  Lines
Interviewer:  And when you're riding on it?
461:  When I'm riding on the horse and holding? Now I was learned I was taught back then and the and the come up they use ropes in the hand but we didn't use the word reins then.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  And uh uh well now just like the the uh uh lines is what we'd use what what what we'd use.
Interviewer:  What would you call it now?
461:  I'd call it the reins now bridle reins
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  the reins.
Interviewer:  And what your your feet would be in would be the?
461:  Stirrups
Interviewer:  And um when you're plowing you know the trenches cut by a plow?
461:  Yeah furrow
Interviewer:  And when if you're plowing with two horses do you have a name for the horse that walks in the furrow?
461:  Mm well I I don't think so I don't plow see I never uh been had any experience with with one one animal now.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  And uh I don't know what you're talking about there.
Interviewer:  I was wondering if you'd ever heard something like um lead horse or nigh horse?
461:  No no no see I never did work in pair.
Interviewer:  And um if you got rid of all the brush and trees on your land you'd say you did what
461:  Clear
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  Clear
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and um you know when you um cut the hay off a piece of land and it {NW} comes back up again in the same year high enough so you can cut it again what do you call that? {NS}
461:  I don't know I mean I- I I cut it again.
Interviewer:  Uh did you call that second cutting or rowing or?
461:  Uh second cutting.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and um a crop that hasn't been planted but that- that year but comes up anyway you call a?
461:  Volunteer
Interviewer:  And um wheat is tied up into a?
461:  Uh I don't know what you're on about now about wheat. It might be having another one but like I like I was talking about this fodder awhile ago
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  just a bundle
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  that's what it is.
Interviewer:  And then that's piled up into a?
461:  Stack
Interviewer:  And um talking about how much you raise you might say we raise forty what? of wheat to an acre forty?
461:  Bushels
Interviewer:  And um say if talking about distance you might say well I know exactly how far away it is but it's just a?
461:  Mile or two
Interviewer:  Or it's just a little?
461:  Ways
Interviewer:  And say if you had been traveling and hadn't finished your trip you'd say you still had a?
461:  A long ways to go.
Interviewer:  And um if something was very common and you didn't have to look for it in a special place you'd say oh you can find that just about?
461:  Most anywhere
Interviewer:  And um if someone slipped and fell this way you'd say he fell over?
461:  Backwards
Interviewer:  And this way?
461:  Now listen {NW} let me tell you about that. {NW} That word that I used for a long time was bakards
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  B-A-K-A-R-D-S something like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But backwards now.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  And uh forwards
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Farwards I I guess that was A F-A-R-W-A-R-D-S
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But it's forwards and backwards.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. say if um if you'd gone fishing and I ask you if you caught any you might say no what a one no?
461:  I didn't catch a one.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh would you ever s- would you say not a one or nary one? {NW}
461:  Well uh no well I know um some of that's used but nary one um and I hear you know this is in this particular part of the country but that's very seldom used.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Nary one
Interviewer:  You would never say that yourself?
461:  We didn't catch many or we didn't catch hardly any.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But not nary that's that's very seldom used.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and um what do you have to do with oats to separate the grain from the rest of it?
461:  I don't know shuck it I guess.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and um
461:  Well now I'm talking about {NW} you talking about corn it's taking the the cover off of corn that's shucking.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now oats I'm not familiar with that y- y- I mean I haven't talked to someone about it uh what I'm what I'm familiar with.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But I I don't know about oats I mean oats and wheat
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. say um say if there was something that if there is something that we had to do today just the two of us you might say we'll have to do it or you might turn to me and say?
461:  We've got
Interviewer:  Well instead of saying we you might say
461:  Let's?
Interviewer:  Or would you say me and you or you and I or how would you say that?
461:  So okay wait a minute
Interviewer:  You might say we'll have to do it or you might say?
461:  I don't know now I I may tell you what I say. We've got to do something today
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  I might say you and I.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  But not me and you or you and me and something like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Or you might say um {NW} say if someone wanted us for a certain job you might say well he doesn't want just you or just me he wants?
461:  Both of us
Interviewer:  And um say if you were um talking about how tall you are you'd say um he's not as tall as?
461:  Me
Interviewer:  Or you might say I'm not as tall as?
461:  He
Interviewer:  And um you say he can do that better than?
461:  I can
Interviewer:  And um say if someone if you knock on the door and and they ask who's there you know that they recognize your voice you might answer it's?
461:  Me
Interviewer:  And say if it was um if it was a man and you go to the door and you say it's say if someone asked was that Jim at the door you say yeah that was?
461:  {NW} Him
Interviewer:  And if it was a woman you might say that was?
461:  Her
Interviewer:  And if it was two people you'd say that was?
461:  Them
Interviewer:  And um you say something belongs to me then you'd say it's?
461:  Mine
Interviewer:  Or to me you'd say it's?
461:  Yours
Interviewer:  And to both of us it's?
461:  Ours
Interviewer:  And to them it's?
461:  Their's
Interviewer:  And to him?
461:  His
Interviewer:  And to her?
461:  Hers
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear people say his'n or your'n?
461:  Yeah yeah
Interviewer:  Does that sound old fashion to you or?
461:  Yes it does and it's quite commonly used in Wausau.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Around it's it's uh his'n uh her- well I don't know about hers'n but I know it's his'n his'n. That's that's been used.
Interviewer:  Would you say that yourself?
461:  No no
Interviewer:  How would you address a a group of
461:  In fact when I heard it
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  it didn't sound right.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I thought it was something wrong all the time it just didn't sound right.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But I have heard it.
Interviewer:  What would you say to address a group of people would you say you or would you say?
461:  To address a group?
Interviewer:  Yeah to talking to a more than one person would you say you or would you have another expression? Would you say you all or y'all or youins or?
461:  Uh y'all y'all
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Not youins that's up in the Carolinas.
Interviewer:  Uh huh
461:  Very common used up around.
Interviewer:  How much traveling have you done have you been up in the?
461:  I've been up I was in service in uh North Carolina at Fort Bragg.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  And we met some friends and had s- uh they would use youins very common
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  and we'd pick that up.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. How long were you in the service? {NS}
461:  Two years. {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you stay at Fort Bragg?
461:  No I went to uh I was in Fort Gordon Georgia in Augusta.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Fort Campbell Kentucky {NS} Fort Jackson South Carolina {X} {NS}
Interviewer:  How did you like it out there in the mountains?
461:  I liked it. We went uh we was on vacation up in uh Ashville and Knoxville.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
461:  Nashville Tennessee
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  I like gospel music
Interviewer:  Yeah
461:  and uh I like uh country and western. {X} lot of kind of music I like but uh primarily gospel
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  country and western music.
Interviewer:  Do you go see Grand Ole Gospel?
461:  Uh we went but didn't hear the program we went inside the building.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Uh we was up there around Wednesday see they have that on Friday and Saturday nights but we got to go inside the building.
Interviewer:  It's opera Saturday night isn't?
461:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Ain't is gospel Friday?
461:  Right gospel Friday I heard it last night on the radio.
Interviewer:  {NS} Um {NS} say if you were if some uh their car was out in the road you might say to them somebody is going to run into?
461:  What is that?
Interviewer:  Would you would you ever say um say if there was a group of people and their car was out on the road you might tell them someone's gonna run into?
461:  You?
Interviewer:  Would you ever say y'all's car or your car or you all's car how would you say that?
461:  No uh I'd say uh if you don't watch out
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  somebody is gonna run into you. Or gonna run into your car not into you all's car.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And say if there had been a party
461:  Now listen let me tell you something about you all where it's very commonly used in this area.
Interviewer:  Where's that?
461:  Not as much now but back in the times I was young
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  okay? you come to see me when you fix to leave today {NW}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Well I got to go home well you says I got to go now
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  you all come to see me.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Just live across the branch over there or creek.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Y'all come okay y'all come.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now that was I mean that was commonly used.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Um and this and the you all is very is is commonly used now.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now okay uh maybe like there'd be um trick or treating tonight set up in this community a man called me awhile go and say you all don't forget now tonight is trick or treating. You all don't forget.
Interviewer:  Would was that do you take that as referring to your whole family or does it mean just you?
461:  No my whole family. Everybody
Interviewer:  No one would ever say you all talking to one person?
461:  No sir {NS} no
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about
461:  A couple now even with a couple you all come and see me.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Or you all don't forget talking about two people.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But not never one.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  You don't forget.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. what if there had been a party and you hadn't been able to go to it and you were asking about the people that had gone {NW} you might ask well?
461:  Did you all have a good time?
Interviewer:  Or you want to know which people had gone you might ask well who would you ever say who all was there? Did you ever use that?
461:  Yes yeah
Interviewer:  How would you use-
461:  Who all was at the party?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Who all was at the party.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Uh now I don't think a lot of times I I'll say who was at the party. Who was at the party.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  That that that all is used a lot of times really when it's not necessary to be used but it is very commonly used.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What if say there was a group of children out playing and now obviously belonged to more than one family you were asking about them you might say?
461:  Let's see who does all these children belong to?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh would you ever say who all's children are they? Or whose children are they?
461:  I don't think no not now that's used but I don't I wouldn't use I don't use it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh what if if say you were asking about a speaker's remarks you no all of all of his remarks everything he said you might ask well?
461:  What you what say that again.
Interviewer:  When you were asking about all of the speakers remarks you know everything that he said you might ask well? Would you ever say what all did he say? What all did he talk about?
461:  Uh yeah I'd say what all did the speaker talk about.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and um
461:  That all would come in there
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  What all did he talk about.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And say if no one else will look out for them you say they've got to look out for?
461:  Themself
Interviewer:  And if no one else will do it for 'em you say he better do it?
461:  Himself
Interviewer:  And um what's made of flour and baked in loaves?
461:  What is that?
Interviewer:  Made of flour and baked in loafs?
461:  Loaves?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Biscuits
Interviewer:  Mm-kay or or something else that comes in a loaf would be a?
461:  Bun
Interviewer:  Uh-huh what I'm talking about kinds of kinds of bread though. What?
461:  Pone well that's not uh now that's what I was talking about the other day. We uh bake a bread in a loaf inside of flour.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. what do you put in it to make it rise?
461:  Uh baking powder
Interviewer:  What what about something else that you put in-
461:  We don't put yeast in it
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  We don't use yeast.
Interviewer:  Do do you know what that kind of bread is called where you put yeast in it? Do you ever hear light bread or um?
461:  Oh yeah light bread yeah It's the white bread we buy light bread yeah. Yeah
Interviewer:  That's what
461:  It's not used anymore it's just about to get out. But used to when I was a young boy and coming up light bread uh that meant the kind that was bought.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Uh commercially. Like the loaves of bread we get today. That was light bread. It was real light see.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now either light bread or biscuits or cornbread.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh you said there's two kinds of bread there's homemade bread and then there's?
461:  Uh the commercially bought bread.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh what other kinds of um what what sort of things did you make out of um corn meal
461:  Uh the uh small flat uh what I'm talking about now what uh what baker.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Okay a baker is a particular um {NW} utensil cooking utensil that you bake bread in.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  That's one kind there's a number of kinds. But it's a flat skillet with the low sides on it you know what I'm talking about?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Okay you bake bread in that that is a baker.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Okay you you you mix your cornmeal in water and salt you can make cornbread.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  You might not think you can but you can. All you got to do is just mix it up and
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  flatten it out and you can cook it on top the stove or you can bake it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But the one I'm talking about now uh hoe cake. That's a thin uh cake of cornbread.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Cooked on top of a stove and turn it a couple of times and it was quick thin and it would cook quick see.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But your thicker you'd make it out of a pone. {NW} A roll and you'd put it in the stove and bake it uh you'd do it in a different type of skillet too one with a higher side.
Interviewer:  What do you mean a pone? Is that a sort of a loaf?
461:  Yeah it's a sort of a loaf. P-O-N-E
Interviewer:  About what size is it?
461:  Uh I'd say it's a oh well about like about like that.
Interviewer:  How many inches say? Six?
461:  No no not six I'd say about four.
Interviewer:  Four inches wide and
461:  Four inches wide and about six inches long.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh What sort of things would you make from cooking with fish?
461:  There's a number of {X} hush puppies now.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Okay if we gonna have fish today we'll have hush puppies.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But not long ago it wouldn't of been the common word.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I'd say uh corn dodgers and see it's got it's name I don't know where.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Uh corn dodgers uh doodads
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Made out of doe see that's what your mixture is is a doe D-O-E. I guess I mean that's now it is pronounced. Now uh but now then it's it's hush puppies.
Interviewer:  Is that about about what is that sort of round shaped or?
461:  Yeah
Interviewer:  What is it
461:  Well now it's a it's a it's round shaped kinda like a small miniature football.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. about how big? Three inches or so?
461:  No no not three inches about one inch and one inch by about two inches.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Okay now uh another way to do it is to cook uh okay now that's a hush puppy and your corn dodgers I always uh had learned uh to identify 'em by now my wife uh learned it from another she had the doodad and I didn't do that she mentioned that the other day.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But I didn't learn but the doodad but that was her family they had it named.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  It's when you flatten this corn bread out see a hush puppy is cornmeal mixed.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Well you flatten it out about that thick and it looks like a doughnut.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now that's what we call corn dodgers now it's different than the corn dodger and the hush puppy
Interviewer:  Wait
461:  Because of the shape it's the same
Interviewer:  It's about the same much same amount of dough in it but it's it's flatter it's a corn dodger?
461:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Does it have a hole in the center?
461:  That's right that's right
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now the reason they do that is it helps cook you see that grease can get in and cook it where as if it was a whole flat cake you see it wouldn't cook
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  as quick
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  as it should but then when you put that hole in it see it that grease gets in all the way around it can cook quicker.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. so a a corn dodger is like a a cornmeal doughnut then?
461:  That's right
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  that's right.
Interviewer:  Were there different uh what about something you could take um just salt and water and cornmeal and make something that you could eat with a spoon.
461:  I don't know what you could eat um
Interviewer:  Well say if you were kind of sick and you couldn't hold much on your stomach do you ever hear of mush or gruel or something like that?
461:  No no
Interviewer:  Were there different kinds of doughnuts um maybe by {NS} different ways of making it or um putting yeast in it or?
461:  What doughnuts?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  I don't know. The only donuts that I ever uh had a chance to get was after I got on up now when I was young I didn't have such thing as doughnuts.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  When I got uh maybe we begin to buy a few when this other man married my aunt.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Get 'em at the stores and so on but I don't know anything about making doughnuts.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And um you say you'd something you'd take up a batter and then make from fry three or four of these for breakfast that would be a? And eat with syrup and butter.
461:  Biscuits
Interviewer:  Or no something you'd flat and you'd
461:  Oh flapjack
Interviewer:  Uh-huh any other names for them?
461:  Oh yeah now listen uh I used to I used to we used to make and would eat what they'd call a flapjack.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Made out of flour bread
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  see not cornmeal but flour.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Any other name for for that?
461:  {NW} We call 'em flapjack.
Interviewer:  Do what about flitter or
461:  #1 Oh yeah flitters too. #
Interviewer:  #2 pancake or? #
461:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
461:  Flitters I'll tell you what the word it don't make any difference it was about fifty percent each way I'd say. It was either uh uh I don't know what we just come on the end of a person's tongue at that time would a either a flitter I know what they talking about it was a flapjack I know what he's talking about.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But now about this uh uh a pancake now I've used pancake today it's a pancake now.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. but you used to call it
461:  flitters or flapjacks that's right.
Interviewer:  Um and talk about how much flour might be in a sack you might say a sack would contain five or ten what of flour five or ten ?
461:  What is that?
Interviewer:  Talking about how much flour might be in a sack now you might buy five or ten?
461:  Pounds
Interviewer:  And um the inside part of the egg is called the?
461:  Yolk
Interviewer:  And what color is that?
461:  Yellow wait a minute used to be yeller.
Interviewer:  You'd call call the thing the the yeller?
461:  That's right
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and if you cooked them in hot water what do you call 'em?
461:  Boiled
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  Boil an egg.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What if you um cracked 'em and let them fall out of their shells in the hot water?
461:  Do what now?
Interviewer:  If you cracked them and let them drop into hot water?
461:  Uh well now that would be poaching.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I didn't know what that was.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Not until just a few years ago.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  We never did do anything like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about um when you'd kill a hog um what would call the different parts of meat?
461:  Oh yeah we got the chitlins ham uh middlings
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
461:  and livers and and uh shoulders
Interviewer:  When you cut
461:  and the jou- jowls but they used to pronounce that joules.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. When you'd cut the side of a hog what would you call that?
461:  That's a middling
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. what about the word bacon what what does bacon mean?
461:  See now here what do bacon mean?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  It meant that middling the side of a hog.
Interviewer:  Would you call that a side of bacon or a middling of bacon or?
461:  Side of bacon
Interviewer:  Uh-huh what's the difference between bacon and middling?
461:  There's no uh now let me tell you what uh Barbara see the side the flat uh portion of a hog when you you know cut the parts out and actually butcher that side what we call slab bacon now
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  that is a middling it used to be all and it's one piece.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Well when you cut pieces out of that well you you {X} used to when they would hang it in the smoke house you'd hang the whole thing it would be big as this towel over here and you're about to see the whole side of a hog that is a middling of meat.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  See?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  You'd cut you'd go on and you'd cut a portion of that off you'd cut a slab of bacon see it is the same thing as bacon.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  That's what they make bacon out of now that's what we used to call a middling.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What do you call the the meat that you buy already sliced to cook with eggs? Is that what do you call that bacon now if it's already sliced?
461:  Oh yeah we call it that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. what about the um fat salt pork that you might boil with greens?
461:  White salt
Interviewer:  What was that exactly?
461:  It was the same thing as bacon um I guess. I don't know it was just white it wasn't cured or smoked
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I just don't know uh I guess that uh white side meat is uh is uh just that portion of the middling uh of the slab of bacon that is just not cured I don't know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. anything else um sowbelly um fat back anything else?
461:  Oh yeah fat back uh no now listen that fat back uh we used to call it uh white sow. {NW}
Interviewer:  What'd you
461:  And fat backs same thing.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. fat back is a newer word?
461:  I don't think so. Maybe it is
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Uh now I don't use any of that particular kind of meat now. But if I was if I was going to tell my wife if I says go down to the store and bye some white sow
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I wouldn't say fat back.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh what about the
461:  And I know it was in in my own way the associating the two but I know it was either one but I'd tell her to go get some white sow.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. what do you call the edge of the bacon you cut off before you slice it?
461:  The skin
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and um you might take um a person that that cuts and sells meat you call him a?
461:  A man that cuts and sells meat
Interviewer:  Well the person that kills kills the meat and and sells it.
461:  Butcher
Interviewer:  Okay did you used to use that word?
461:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Do do you think of him as being in a behind a meat counter or someone who
461:  Yeah he's a butcher.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh What about say you take the um trimmings and s- cut 'em up and slice 'em and grind 'em?
461:  Trimmings
Interviewer:  And and then you'd what would you make out of it?
461:  Cracklings
Interviewer:  Or or say you might grind it and season it and stuff it and?
461:  Sausage
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and if meat's been kept too long you say the meat is?
461:  Spoiled
Interviewer:  And um what do you call the {NS} inside parts of the hog that you eat? {NS}
461:  Uh {NS} well like the we call 'em the chitlings.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. what else? {NS}
461:  Liver
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} {NS} have you ever heard liver and
461:  Lights?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Yeah
Interviewer:  What was that?
461:  Uh it's- it's a it's a part of that uh organ uh somehow with the liver I don't know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But liver and lights.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  L-I-G-H-T-S seemingly that's the way it is pronoun-
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  And I- I don't know I don't like it anyway.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS}
461:  And uh I don't know today whether they separate that I just don't know but I have heard of liver and lights as being associated together.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about {D: harslet or haslet?}
461:  Oh yeah haslet that's right.
Interviewer:  What's that?
461:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  It is part of the inside of the hog now like I say uh uh you see well I don't butcher. Well I mean I never have but they they don't butcher hogs like they used to.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  See and you're not around it and you hear those words used but I have heard that word haslet. {NW} And it's part of the inside of a hog that people eat.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now I've heard that word but I- I don't know what it is.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} what um can you make with the meat from the hog's head?
461:  Souse
Interviewer:  Okay any other name for that?
461:  Hog head cheese.
Interviewer:  Okay
461:  Now listen we didn't use that we used that word souse that was the most common but I have heard that hog headed cheese used.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Same thing {NW}
Interviewer:  Is there anything you could make by cooking and grinding up the liver?
461:  Not as I know of liver pudding.
Interviewer:  What what was that?
461:  I don't know I- I don't know anything that you could do that I have heard of it but I don't know never seen any of it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. did you ever hear of anything made out of the blood?
461:  I've heard of what you call I mean I've heard of a blood pudding but I ain't never heard uh I ain't never seen none of that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. have you ever heard of something called scrapple or pon haus?
461:  Uh-uh
Interviewer:  And say if you had kept butter too long you'd say that the butter was? It didn't taste right you'd say it was? T-
461:  Tainted
Interviewer:  Any other word?
461:  No uh rank
Interviewer:  Okay and thick sour milk you'd call?
461:  {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-kay anything you can make from that?
461:  Butter
Interviewer:  Well any kind of cheese or anything?
461:  I don't know about that uh like cottage cheese?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I don't I don't know uh whether it did or not we never did.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay um and the first thing you do after milking is you have to?
461:  Strain it
Interviewer:  And um this is something it's sort of like a a fruit pie it's baked in a deep dish and its got several layers of fruit and pastry? {NW} And maybe you put down a layer of dough then you put down some apples and then some more dough
461:  Apple pie
Interviewer:  But
461:  {NW}
Interviewer:  something
461:  {X} casserole
Interviewer:  Now say if um have you ever heard um well there's a lot of different names um deep dish apple pie or um?
461:  No just apple pie
Interviewer:  Or what about cobbler?
461:  Yeah yeah peach cobbler right.
Interviewer:  What's that like?
461:  Now listen it is the same thing as a peach pie.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  A cobbler's just a more modern as far as I'm concerned a newer name for a peach pie.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and um say if someone had a good appetite you'd say he sure likes to put away his?
461:  Listen I'm gonna tell you what can really hide some groceries
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  that's it.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear the word vittles used?
461:  Oh yeah yeah that's about the same thing well he'd hide some vittles
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  vittles groceries
Interviewer:  Would you say the vittles now? Would you be likely to use that word?
461:  {NW} Nope I'd say boy he can hide some food.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and um you might take milk or cream and mix that with um sugar and nutmeg and pour it over pie you'd call that a?
461:  Cream
Interviewer:  Yeah but take a sweet liquid that you could pour over pudding or pie what would you call that?
461:  I don't know. What what what was it supposed to be called?
Interviewer:  Well I was thinking of um would you call it gravy or dressing or dip or sauce or?
461:  Um {NS} now I associate a cream I say I want some cream to go on my pie.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  A cream on my pizza.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now then if I got some dressing and you got a mixture out here
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I want some of that uh say gravy
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  to go on my mash potatoes.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But I want cream to go on my pizza's and my pie.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and um food taken between regular meals you'd call a?
461:  Uh eating between meals?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Any kind of snack.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay
461:  Wait a minute let's see uh yeah it'd be a snack now.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But back and when I was coming up don't eat but said eat between meals they don't ever they didn't ever use the word snack.
Interviewer:  What did they say?
461:  He says he eats between meals
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  that's it.
Interviewer:  And um you say this morning I what breakfast at seven o'clock?
461:  {NW} Ate
Interviewer:  And yesterday
461:  {X} I eat
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  Eat
Interviewer:  Mm-kay
461:  I say this morning I eat breakfast about seven o'clock.
Interviewer:  And yesterday at that time I had already?
461:  I'd say ate today.
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  I'd say ate.
Interviewer:  You'd say yesterday I already ate?
461:  At this time
Interviewer:  And um you say tomorrow I will?
461:  I'll eat at this time.
Interviewer:  And um say if you're real thirsty you might go to the sink and pour yourself a?
461:  Drink
Interviewer:  Or a what would it be?
461:  Pour me a drink of water
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and you'd pour it in a? You'd drink it out of a?
461:  Glass
Interviewer:  And um if you were real thirsty you might say I what a lot of water?
461:  The same way.
Interviewer:  I was thirsty and I what a glass of water?
461:  I drank a lot of water.
Interviewer:  And um you might ask me how much water have you?
461:  Drank today?
Interviewer:  And you say we certainly do
461:  Now the word drunk I drunk a lot of water today.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Is very very easily used because that was the words that was used.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And you say we certainly do what a lot of water?
461:  Drink a lot of water.
Interviewer:  And if dinner was on the table and the family was standing around the table you'd tell 'em to go ahead and?
461:  The dinner is ready
Interviewer:  Or go ahead and what? They are standing up you tell 'em go ahead and?
461:  Eat
Interviewer:  Mm-kay or they're standing around the table though you'd tell 'em to?
461:  To uh be seated.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and someone comes into the dining room and you ask 'em won't you what down won't you?
461:  Sit down
Interviewer:  And you say so then he?
461:  Sits down
Interviewer:  Or then he went ahead and what down?
461:  Eat
Interviewer:  Yeah but you say then he went ahead and?
461:  Sit down
Interviewer:  And um you say no one else is standing because they had all?
461:  Sit down
Interviewer:  And um if you want someone not to and wait until the potatoes are passed over to them you tell 'em to just go ahead and?
461:  Start eating
Interviewer:  But say you are offering you say don't don't wait until it's passed just everybody go ahead and?
461:  Help themself
Interviewer:  And um so you'd say so then he went ahead and? what himself?
461:  Helped himself
Interviewer:  And you say I asked him to pass them over to me since he had already? What himself?
461:  Served himself
Interviewer:  Or since he'd already? Using the word help you'd say since he'd already?
461:  Served himself
Interviewer:  Or using the word help?
461:  Helped himself
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear people say hope?
461:  Uh-uh
Interviewer:  Hope himself You had
461:  Oh I might have but not common enough to for it to stick.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and if someone offers you some food that you don't want you say no thank you I don't?
461:  Care for it.
Interviewer:  And um if food's been cooked and served a second time you say that it's been?
461:  Left over
Interviewer:  And um you say you put put food in your mouth and then you begin to?
461:  {X}
Interviewer:  Or you begin to?
461:  Chew
Interviewer:  And um what do you call peas and beets and so forth that you grow yourself?
461:  Vegetables
Interviewer:  Mm-kay you wouldn't have a special name depending on if you grew them yourself or not would you?
461:  No
Interviewer:  Never heard of garden truck or? And um something that a particularly southern food that's made of ground up corn you might eat for breakfast?
461:  Grits
Interviewer:  Mm-kay what about something that you'd make by um leeching the husk off corn?
461:  Hominy
Interviewer:  Mm-kay is that what you always called it hominy?
461:  I think so.
Interviewer:  And um this is something that it's made from the inside of a grain um people in China and Japan eat it a lot? It's white. It's a it's a starch it's made from a grain and you can grow it you probably could grow it around here but you'd it {NS}
461:  I don't know what that is what it
Interviewer:  I'm see it starts with an R something that grows in in water pretty much.
461:  Rice
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Oh yeah
Interviewer:  Do you do has people grown it around here or do you know?
461:  They used to.
Interviewer:  And um
461:  I got about two minutes and then I got to go
Interviewer:  Okay um just one more question then um what have you ever heard of um people making whiskey themselves? Maybe out in the woods.
461:  Yes
Interviewer:  What did you hear it called?
461:  Rum
Interviewer:  #1 Rum just for anything that #
461:  #2 right #
Interviewer:  that they'd make themselves?
461:  That's right rum white lightening
Interviewer:  Uh-huh was there a difference
461:  {X}
Interviewer:  What if it was um real poor quality?
461:  Rotgut
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and what about homemade beer?
461:  Brew home brew
Interviewer:  Mm-kay
461:  Barbara I {NW}
Speaker 3:  {X}
Interviewer:  No I'm just hear by myself
Speaker 3:  Really?
Interviewer:  Let's see um what do you call the inside part of the cherry?
461:  The inside part of the what?
Interviewer:  Cherry
461:  I don't know
Interviewer:  You okay what about on a peach?
461:  Oh a peach
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  we call that the seed.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay do do you call it that for a cherry?
461:  Cherry?
Interviewer:  Yeah
461:  I would say so
Interviewer:  Mm-kay um and the kind of peach that it's real hard to get the that you have to cut the seed out of?
461:  Oh yeah that's a prince.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay what about the other kind?
461:  It's a clear seed.
Interviewer:  Okay what do you call the part inside the seed?
461:  Kernel
Interviewer:  Okay and the part of the apple that you don't eat?
461:  Core
Interviewer:  And um {NS} the kinds of what kinds of nuts do you have around here? {NS}
461:  Pecan we used to call that the pecan {NW}
Speaker 3:  Pecan
461:  and the hickory uh we used to call that the hickor nut.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  And uh peanuts we used to call 'em {D: pindars and ground peas.}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  And uh {NS} walnuts there's just a few.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  {X}
Interviewer:  On the the walnuts you know there's two coverings for it you know?
461:  Yeah I don't know uh I'm not familiar with the walnut I don't know what you'd call either one of them.
Interviewer:  Have you ever seen one off a tree?
461:  Yeah
Interviewer:  You know it's got the that covering that's green until it it bursts you know?
461:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And then then it's got a you can take that out off and then it's got a harder covering
Speaker 3:  Lacey like covering.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  I don't know
Interviewer:  Okay and um the kind of fruit about the the size of an apple that
461:  persimmon
Interviewer:  or that Florida is famous for?
461:  Oh orange
Interviewer:  Okay say if you had a bowl of oranges and one day you went in to get one and there weren't left you'd say the oranges are?
461:  They're gone
Interviewer:  Okay and um what sort of things did you grow in a garden?
461:  Turnips collards
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  peas okra cucumbers squash
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  radishes used to call them radishes
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  uh onions cabbage
Interviewer:  What about um a red thing that grows up on a um bush that you'd stake up?
461:  Tomato
Interviewer:  Okay
461:  Used to call them matos. {NW}
Interviewer:  What about those those little ones that don't get any bigger than that?
461:  Cherry tomatoes a tommy toes.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. did you ever hear another name for those?
461:  I might have but I can not recall.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear out house tomatoes?
461:  No
Interviewer:  So just tommy toes
461:  No I never did hear
Interviewer:  Okay and um you say uh along with your meat you might have a baked?
461:  Potato
Interviewer:  Okay what kinds of potatoes are there?
461:  Irish used to call them Irish.
Interviewer:  Okay
461:  Irish potatoes Idaho
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  white which I'd just know 'em as a Irish potato.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh what about the other kind that has red meat?
461:  Sweet potato
Interviewer:  Okay are there different kinds of those?
461:  I've heard them called yams I don't know the difference in a yam and a sweet potato I've heard 'em called both.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  So I just we call 'em sweet potatoes.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} and um {NS} you mentioned onions you know those those little onions that that you pull up and eat you know raw when in the spring the do you know what I mean? Before they get real big you know maybe the bulbs about
461:  Uh nest egg
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  We called 'em nest eggs onion a set onion set
Speaker 3:  Onion set A spring onions
Interviewer:  Did you call it that?
461:  I called 'em uh nest nesting onions.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and
461:  Because they come in clusters
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Is that the same as she mentioned the spring onions?
461:  I don't know I think I think it is
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and um what kinds of beans do you have? That that you have to
461:  Slap beans
Interviewer:  Uh-huh {NW}
461:  Slap beans {NW} is about all.
Interviewer:  And say when you have to get one to get the beans out of the pods you #1 you say you're? #
461:  #2 Shell #
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  We shell 'em
Interviewer:  Okay what kinds of beans do you have to shell?
461:  Oh you're talking about beans?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Well uh {X}
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  We don't eat them {X} we don't raise them in the garden but I- I thought you was talking about the bean and the only only bean beans that we raise in the garden is the snap bean.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Now there's probably other kind but we don't raise any but snap beans.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Or the velvet bean is planted in the field #1 fertility #
Speaker 3:  #2 How bout the butter bean? #
461:  #1 #
Speaker 3:  #2 #
461:  What?
Speaker 3:  The butter bean
461:  Oh yeah the butter bean that's right we shell 'em.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. is what's the difference between a butter bean and a lima bean? Or is there any difference?
Speaker 3:  Same
461:  There's two kind there's a colored butter bean we call it and we call it green bean.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  bean. That's the green butter bean I guess
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  The colored butter bean is colored.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:  And the the white butter bean is the one that when they get dry
461:  Well I guess a butter bean's a lima bean.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh {NW} and you say you take the tops of turnips and cook them and make a mess of?
461:  Turnips
Interviewer:  Or another name for that?
461:  Greens
Interviewer:  Okay what other kinds of greens do you have besides turnips?
461:  Collards and mustard
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of poke?
461:  Yeah we don't have that around here. {X} I think they might have raised
Speaker 3:  That's a long time ago.
Interviewer:  {NW}
461:  #1 {X} #
Speaker 4:  #2 Momma come here and tie my shoes. #
461:  #1 #
Speaker 4:  #2 #
Interviewer:  Okay {NW} um {NW} say if um the outside of an ear of corn is called a?
461:  Shuck
Interviewer:  And um the stringy stuff on it?
461:  Silk
Interviewer:  And um the thing that grows up at the top of the corn stalk?
461:  {NW} Tassel we used to call it the tossel.
Interviewer:  Okay
461:  T-O {X} but it's a tassel.
Interviewer:  And um {NW} what about the um the kind of corn you eat off the cob?
461:  Sweet corn
Interviewer:  Okay any other name for that is that what you used to call it?
461:  Early corn
Interviewer:  What about um roasting
461:  Roasting roas- roasting ears.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  {NW} We used to call 'em roasting ears. {NW} Roasting ears
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing as sweet corn?
461:  Yes so it can either be field corn it's just a ear of corn that you roast.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
Speaker 3:  {X}
Interviewer:  Does it mean is that the um I think that'll stay like that yeah um is that the same thing as the sweet corn or is? Does that sort of mean more how it's prepared or?
461:  No sweet corn has got a sweet taste.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Now the regular field corn
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  you can still have creamed corn
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  but it won't be sweet.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Uh that's why we used to call sweet corn it's got a sweet taste.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh the field corn is what you call the roasting ears or?
461:  Well any uh either one of 'em. Uh if you roast it in the oven baked the corn it can be either the sweet or either the field corn.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  That's where you get where I got the word roasting ears is because we roast it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and um something that well big thing that you'd um make pie out of at Thanksgiving?
461:  Pumpkin we used to call it punkin.
Interviewer:  Okay and um what kinds of melons did you used to raise?
461:  Watermelon and cantaloupe
Interviewer:  Is there a something another name for cantaloupe or something similar?
461:  A mush melon
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Yeah
Interviewer:  What's the difference?
461:  There's not any as I know of.
Speaker 3:  A mushmelon is bigger
Interviewer:  Was it?
461:  I think it's the same thing.
Speaker 3:  I think momma had she had some and the mushmelon was real big and the cantaloupes are small.
461:  Okay
Speaker 4:  Cantaloupes and orange and mushmelon.
461:  Used to call anything that wasn't a watermelon a mushmelon.
Interviewer:  {NW} What different kinds of watermelon were there?
461:  Black diamond and then we used to call I guess it's the Congo now the one with the streaks
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  the rattle snake
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I don't it was a name of a watermelon I know it wasn't.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  We did call it rattlesnake it had streaks.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  And then a Charleston gray now.
Interviewer:  What does that look like?
461:  White
Interviewer:  White on the outside or?
461:  Right it's red on the inside. They used to have one well they still got it I don't know what you'd call it but it's got a yellow meat flesh to it inside.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  It's yellow we used to say yeller {NW}
Interviewer:  You call that the yellow watermelon or?
461:  No I call it the yellow-meated watermelon is what we how we identified. And how you could tell it on the outside of the melon there was little specks. Looks like stars and then they would be designs that look like a moon
Interviewer:  Hmm
461:  every now and then that you'd see. Is that right? {B}
Speaker 3:  What's that?
461:  Yellow-meated watermelon you ever notice it?
Speaker 3:  Help me understand.
461:  well it had a like I said the little speaks that looked like stars it had a it was pretty.
Interviewer:  Huh {NW} never seen one of those.
461:  They were {NW} kinda rare wasn't a lot of 'em planted.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. and um {NS} little umbrella shaped thing that springs up in the woods or fields after it rains
461:  Mushroom
Interviewer:  Okay
461:  We used to call it mushy room
Interviewer:  Huh?
461:  We used to call it mushy room
Interviewer:  Uh-huh what what about something similar to that that maybe you couldn't eat?
461:  Toad stew
Interviewer:  Uh-huh wh- what's the the difference?
461:  I don't think there's any {NW} really.
Interviewer:  And um something that that you'd have on the table to to season food with would be?
461:  Black pepper
Interviewer:  Or
461:  salt.
Interviewer:  Okay {NW} and um something you might have to spread on toast in the morning?
461:  Butter
Interviewer:  Or the sweet spread from
461:  Jelly
Interviewer:  Okay and um you might say this isn't imitation maple syrup this is?
461:  Pure
Interviewer:  Or this is gen-?
461:  Genuine
Interviewer:  Okay is that how you always said that word?
461:  Right
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear genuine?
461:  What? genuine
Interviewer:  Or genuine or
461:  Uh-uh no genuine.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and um when sugar was wasn't prepackaged but when it was sold out of the barrel you'd say that it was sold?
461:  By the bulk.
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if there was a a bowl of if there was some apples and a child wanted one he'd tell you?
461:  I want an apple
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if um {NS} say if a man had a a really bad sore throat and um you'd say well he couldn't eat that piece of meat because it got stuck in his throat and he couldn't?
461:  Swallow
Interviewer:  You'd say he could chew it but he couldn't?
461:  Swallow
Interviewer:  Okay and um something that people smoke made out of tobacco?
461:  Cigarette
Interviewer:  Okay and what else?
461:  Cigar
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if someone had about or you say if you were going to buy some some lettuce you might ask for three or four?
461:  Heads
Interviewer:  Okay um would you ever use that word heads talking about children? Say if you had six children would you ever say you had six heads of children?
461:  Well uh I've heard it used quite a bit.
Interviewer:  How wou-
461:  But I've never used it I- I don't I don't tell people that I got three head of children.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  I say I got three boys. I got three children I don't say that I got three head of children.
Interviewer:  How does that sound to you?
461:  It don't sound- it don't even sound country to me. I mean what I'm talking about it don't make I don't know it's just the wrong word to use.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh {NS} did you ever hear if say if someone had about fourteen children did you ever hear him say he had a passel of children?
461:  Yes
Interviewer:  How would they use that #1 word #
461:  #2 that's # real country Well okay puppies
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Somebody would say that well you could tell that they had a {NS} a large litter puppies and says that ol' dog's got a passel of puppies.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Uh passel of {NS} fleas around the place or something. It means a lot of 'em
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But I've heard it used but not real com- it's not common in this area.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Never has been not passel but it's been used sparingly.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh but but you did hear it said about children say?
461:  No I don't think so.
Interviewer:  Or just just animals like puppies or something?
461:  Uh yes and other subjects that they would be talking about not children.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. what about the word right smart? The right smart of children or the right smart of
Speaker 3:  Yeah
461:  Yeah that's common.
Interviewer:  How is that used? Do you or how do you use that?
461:  Let's see uh that means quite a bit.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Uh like if you have any turnips? Oh I have a right smart of 'em.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  Right smart of turnips.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. would you ta-
461:  Uh it it's used uh quite a bit.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
461:  But really it's been used in this area and that's how it would be associated.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Would you talk about someone having a right smart of money? Or does that
461:  Yeah
Interviewer:  does that sound funny to you?
461:  Well it'd be yes. It's not right but but it's been used that way.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and um say someone asked you to do something and you might say well I'd like to but I just?
461:  Can't or have time.
Interviewer:  Okay and um you might say in a in such a situation he what to be careful?
461:  Better watch out.
Interviewer:  Or say if um or you might say he should be careful or another way of saying that you say he what to be careful he?
461:  Protector
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. did you ever hear people say um he belongs to be careful?
461:  No
Interviewer:  How would what would you probably say?
461:  You talking about that somebody should exercise uh caution?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Well I've heard 'em say that he should be extremely careful.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
461:  Uh
Interviewer:  But you never heard anyone say that he belongs to
461:  No never have.
Interviewer:  something like that?
461:  Never have
Interviewer:  Um say if a boy got a whipping you'd say I bet he did something he?
461:  Shouldn't of done.
Interviewer:  Or using the word ought you'd say I bet he did something he? {NW}
461:  Ought notta done Ought notta ought notta done.
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if you are refusing to do something you might tell someone um and no matter how many times you ask me to do that I just what do it?
461:  Didn't do it.
Interviewer:  Or you saying that you will not do it you say I just?
461:  Can't
Interviewer:  Or I just?
Speaker 3:  Ought not
Speaker 4:  Won't daddy
461:  What?
Speaker 4:  Won't
461:  Uh I don't know just say it again. Ask me.
Interviewer:  Well say if some one ask you if you'll do something you say um well no matter how many times you ask me to I just?
Speaker 4:  I ain't gonna do it.
461:  No uh
Speaker 4:  Won't
461:  I'm not gonna do it
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if someone ask you if you'll be able to do something you might say well I'm not sure but I? Do you ever say I might?
461:  Give it a try
Interviewer:  Do you ever say I might could or do you ever say that might could do it?
461:  Yeah I might could do it.
Interviewer:  Okay