461: I said I've never been I've never had a chance to talk to a college student. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: How old are you? Interviewer: Nineteen 461: Nineteen? Okay Interviewer: Um nickname for a boy named William would be? 461: Bill Interviewer: Or add a yY to it it'd be? 461: Billy Interviewer: And um the first book in the New Testament? 461: Uh Genesis Interviewer: Or New Testament? 461: Oh in the New Testament Matthew. Interviewer: And um a woman who conducts school is called a? 461: A woman that conducts school? Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Say teacher Interviewer: Did you ever hear any ol' fashion name for a woman teacher? Uh school marm or school miss or? 461: No Interviewer: And um this is a a name of um well family name but it's the name of a barrel maker. 461: A barrel maker? Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Just like a carter somebody that used to push a cart I guess. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: And makes barrels? Interviewer: But did you ever hear the name cooper or cooper? {C: pronunciation} 461: Yeah well now I've heard hooper that's what I was fixing to say because a hoops is on a barrel I would say hooper. Now there's a cooper they we have people by the name of I've heard both names but the hooper is not common now. I heard it some where else. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: But cooper Interviewer: uh-huh 461: is uh it's a it's a local name here. Interviewer: uh-huh what would you call a married woman with that name? She'd be? 461: Mrs. Cooper Interviewer: uh-huh 461: And Mrs Hooper Interviewer: uh-huh is was that what you'd normally say or would you how would you say that? 461: I'd say it if she was married I'd say Mrs Hooper or Mrs Cooper. Interviewer: uh-huh and um a preacher that's not very well trained doesn't make his living preaching does something else for a living just sort of preaches on Sunday here and there um is not really very good at preaching what might you say about him? 461: You're not talking about a well we we call them kind that uh don't preach every sunday part time. Interviewer: Mm-hmm well that's that's 461: And then a layman is not a pr- well he's not a preacher a layman. Interviewer: Well that's that doesn't really imply that that they are not good a preaching though is there any word or expression you'd use to to mean that they're they're part time but they are also not very good? 461: No I don't know about that. Interviewer: What about um jackleg 461: #1 Oh well now listen # Interviewer: #2 or shake tree? # 461: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 461: Uh I thought that maybe what you was asking about I've never heard it associated with a preacher but now okay I need somebody to come do some plumbing. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Okay he comes and he he just does uh uh shaggy job Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: I say he was a jackleg he doesn't know what he was doing. Uh but you call tell the person that would come that would be a professional. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: A jackleg is he can do this or do that. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: And he can't do anything good. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Okay? But now I've never heard it with a preacher Interviewer: Well what 461: never. Interviewer: What else have you heard it with besides a plumber? 461: Most any any other like a carpenter Interviewer: uh-huh 461: plumber mechanic Interviewer: Mm-hmm What about say a doctor? 461: No Interviewer: Lawyer? 461: No {NW} Interviewer: And um what relation- 461: Well I tell you what I'm getting back to that preacher just call him sorry. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Is all I know. Like a lawyer he's sorry. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: But now a jackleg you talking about a trade uh like a mechanic or a carpenter. Now that's how it has been associated in Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: with me. {NW} Interviewer: And um what relation would my mother's sister be to me? 461: Your mother's sister your aunt. Interviewer: Okay did you ever hear that word pronounced any different? 461: Aunt A-N-T Interviewer: Uh-huh 461: Aunt Interviewer: Who would say aunt? 461: I don't know some stranger {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh no one around here would? 461: Ant no aunt would be somebody that was from up north. Interviewer: Uh-huh 461: Yankee {NW} Interviewer: And um name of the the wife of Abraham? 461: Oh my now Interviewer: It starts with a S. 461: Abraham? Interviewer: uh-huh speaker#3: Sarah speaker#4: Abraham Lincoln 461: No I say Sarah Interviewer: Mm-kay 461: I guessed. Interviewer: Boy named Bill his full name would be? 461: William Interviewer: Mm-kay and if your father had a brother and you called him by his full name he'd be your? 461: Uncle Interviewer: Uncle what? 461: John Interviewer: Or or his you call him by his his full name he'd be 461: Oh uncle uncle John {Beep} Interviewer: Mm-kay and um the highest rank in the army is? 461: General Interviewer: And beneath that is? 461: Colonel Interviewer: Mm-kay and what do they call a person in charge of a ship? 461: Captain Interviewer: Mm-kay have you ever heard that word captain used in other situations? 461: Oh yeah Interviewer: Hmm? 461: Yeah Interviewer: How how? 461: Baseball team Interviewer: uh-huh what about say um colored people to white people? 461: They used to uh yeah they would uh they would captain white people. Interviewer: Mm-hmm just anybody or? Any 461: Well I would say pretty most uh superiors. Interviewer: Mm-hmm people that work for us. 461: Right Interviewer: And um {NW} a person who presides over a court is called a? 461: Judge Interviewer: And a person who goes to school is a? 461: A student Interviewer: Okay would you use that word student if you were talking about say a second grader? 461: Yes Interviewer: Mm-kay you wouldn't say anything like pupil or scholar or? 461: It's been a I that name has been used but I wouldn't. Interviewer: uh-huh and a woman who works in an office and does the typing and so forth she'd be a? 461: Secretary Interviewer: A man on the stage would be an actor a woman would be a? 461: Actress Interviewer: And if your nationality is? 461: Mine? Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: American Interviewer: Huh? 461: American Interviewer: Mm-kay and um say if it was kind of um icy outside you'd say I didn't actually fall down but a couple of times I slipped and I like? 461: To have fell. Interviewer: Say the whole thing. 461: Down? Interviewer: Yeah well I slipped and I? 461: Like to have fell down. Interviewer: Mm-kay um is that what you normally would say? 461: Well no well no I like I would like to have fell cause you know you gonna go one way. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: And that's down. Interviewer: Say if you wanted to to know how many times I did something you might ask say how how frequently I went into town you might ask me how? 461: How many times did you go into town? Interviewer: Or how what do you go many? You want to know how frequently you might ask me how? 461: Many times do you go into town? Interviewer: Or how of-? 461: How often do you go into town? Interviewer: Mm-kay and um talking about parts of the body um this part of my head is called my? 461: Forward Interviewer: Mm-kay 461: Let's see now listen that used to be fard probably F-A-R-D Interviewer: uh-huh but what would you call it now? 461: Forehead Interviewer: Mm-kay and this is my? 461: Hair Interviewer: And on a man hair here would be a? 461: Beard Interviewer: And um #1 this is my? # 461: #2 Whiskers # Interviewer: Mm-kay 461: Right on the end here would be whiskers. Interviewer: uh-huh and this is the? 461: Ear Interviewer: Which one? 461: Left ear Interviewer: Say the whole thing. 461: That's your left ear. Interviewer: And this is my? 461: Your right ear. {NW} Interviewer: And this is the? 461: Mouth Interviewer: And this? 461: Neck Interviewer: And this part? 461: Throat Interviewer: What about goozle? 461: Yes Interviewer: What's that? Do you ever use that word goozle? 461: No how in the has been used? I know it is is a I don't I don't say now this is your goozle it's your throat. My throat so I don't say my goozle sore. Interviewer: But it means the same thing as throat? The 461: #1 I would think so. # Interviewer: #2 inside or outside. # 461: Inside goozle Interviewer: uh-huh and these are your? 461: Teeth Interviewer: And this is one? 461: Tooth Interviewer: And the flesh around your teeth? 461: Gum Interviewer: And um you say this is my? 461: Hand Interviewer: And I have two? 461: Hands Interviewer: And this part of my hand? 461: Palm Interviewer: And this is? 461: Used to be pam Interviewer: Pan? 461: Pam Interviewer: Pam 461: used to. Interviewer: uh-huh this is my? 461: Fist Interviewer: And two? 461: fist used to be fists F-I-S-T-S Interviewer: uh-huh you ever hear fistis? 461: Yes Interviewer: Did you ever say that yourself? 461: Yes I've said it a lot of times. Interviewer: And uh a place where the bones come together is called a? 461: Joint Interviewer: And on a man the upper part of his body is his? 461: Chest Interviewer: And these are the? 461: Shoulders and that little thing here is your adam's apple Interviewer: Mm-hmm that's not the same as the goozle. 461: Well I don't know I don't think so this is adam's apple and there's a certain portion along here somewhere where it would be called a goozle. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: But this is adam's apple. speaker#4: Where? 461: Right here this little thing. speaker#4: Where? Interviewer: {NW} speaker#4: #1 Right there? # 461: #2 No right here # speaker#4: #1 # 461: #2 # speaker#4: {X} Interviewer: Swallow you can feel it moving up and down. 461: Swallow Feel it move? Interviewer: And you say um this is my? 461: Leg Interviewer: And this bone here is the? 461: Shin Interviewer: And this is my? 461: Foot Interviewer: And I have two? 461: Feet Interviewer: And if I get down in this position you say I? 461: You kneel oh a squat. Interviewer: uh-huh any other expression for that? 461: No I don't think so. Interviewer: Did you ever hear hunker? 461: Yeah yes Interviewer: How would you say that? 461: Hunker on his knees. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Some fella can hunker on his knees for a whole day. Interviewer: Does hunker mean the same as squat? 461: Yes yes Interviewer: Did you ever hear a name for this back part of your thigh? Did you ever hear that called hunkers or haunches or something like that? 461: Haunches Interviewer: Or did you 461: No yeah yeah uh yeah I've heard it called haunches. Interviewer: Mm-hmm did you ever hear down on his haunches? 461: You're right right. That's the same thing as hunker and to squat. Interviewer: uh-huh and say if um how how would you say that if someone is how how would you use that? 461: Uh well now if I I don't say I've heard of hunker Interviewer: uh-huh 461: and on his haunches. And associated with animals like uh haunches is the back portion of his leg above his knee. Uh a fella well I I think about a fella that uh works on my mechanic or small engine he can hunker Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: or squat. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: I'd say squat but hunker's very seldom used now. Interviewer: Mm-hmm and um say if someone had been sick for awhile you might say well he's up and about now but he still looks a bit? 461: Pinky Interviewer: Huh? 461: Pale Interviewer: Mm-kay and um someone who's in good shape um can who's healthy you'd say that he's big and? 461: Healthy Interviewer: Or he can lift heavy weights and so forth you'd say he's? 461: Strong Interviewer: Mm-kay um any other words? 461: Husky I don't think that I mean it wouldn't be strong Interviewer: What would husky be? 461: Stout Interviewer: Huh? 461: Well I don't said that strong stout Interviewer: What does stout mean? Does that how do how do you think of all those words husky or strong or stout? 461: Husky means big I don't mean I mean uh uh husky fella here's a husky boy. Interviewer: Mm-hmm {NW} 461: And strong and stout somebody that uh could lift a heavy load. Interviewer: Does stout mean sort of a {NW} Mm-kay do you any other words you'd use? 461: Plain crazy {NW} Interviewer: Hmm? 461: He's just plain crazy. Interviewer: uh-huh did you ever say he's a fool? Would you use that word fool? 461: Uh well it is how you said that he kept on doing things. Interviewer: Or ha- have you do you use the word fool at all? 461: Yes somebody that drives fast okay now here's a good example Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: driving an automobile reckless or fast you know what I'm talking about? Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Well he's a fool he should know better. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: He's a fool. Interviewer: And um someone who has a lot of money but uh won't spend any money at all you'd say that he's a? 461: Stingy Interviewer: Or say that he is a? 461: Tight wad Interviewer: Okay and when you use the word common about a person what does that mean? 461: Common? Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: I'd say that he was average Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: person in the surrounding area. Interviewer: Mm-hmm It is not an insulting then to to be called common or? 461: Well I guess maybe I I would say that it is just a slight. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Because anybody I think it's the nature of a person to want to be just a little higher than the next one. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: I don't know I don't know why now they say if if I'm a common person in Wausau Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: well I go along with it but I feel you know what I'm talking about? Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: I think there's a slight insult. Interviewer: Yeah what if you said that a girl is very common? Does that take on another meaning? 461: Yes low Interviewer: Does it have more of a sexual meaning or? Does {NW} 461: Uh #1 well it could be associated that way. # Interviewer: #2 or do do you think of it that way? # 461: No well in a in a way definitely sex comes in. Interviewer: uh-huh you think of it more as a moral #1 meaning immoral or # 461: #2 Right right # Interviewer: #1 # 461: #2 # Interviewer: And um say if you were talking about person who maybe up in his eighties but still gets around real well for his age still real active you say well I don't care how old he is he's he's mighty what for his age? 461: I'd say active. Interviewer: Mm-kay any other words you've heard? 461: Mm well able to get around Interviewer: uh-huh 461: for his age. That is very commonly used. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: More than active in this community yeah what I'm talking about. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Cause they's a lotta old people Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: like you said that are able to get around Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: but Interviewer: What about a word like spry or feisty or peppy? 461: Well uh that last word is not never used what you say? Interviewer: Peppy 461: Peppy? Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Oh maybe use sometimes but. Interviewer: None of those sound real familiar? 461: No no he gets around real real well to be as old as he is. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Or is he's real active. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: To be eighty years old just like the lady you's talking about. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: She's real active. Interviewer: And say if your children were out later than usual you'd say well I don't guess 461: Well let me talk let me tell you something I know that you in here uh trying get us some information but uh I feel like that the biggest percentage of the people in the Wausau area Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: now I know what kind of people that I'm talking about. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: If you went and sit down with them tonight and ask them this question they say well he he he's mighty spry. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: They wouldn't say peppy I don't think. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: But I think they would use the word spry quite a bit. Uh like I like I say uh I just I would say that he was real active for that age. #1 But no you not # Interviewer: #2 Does spry # 461: you not getting 'em in me like I say I don't think ya hunting that any way but you not getting a a real a true meaning of the this particular word and they's other things that I've heard that you ask that the biggest portion of the people in Wausau would say one thing whether I might say another I might trying to say I do know I do know those people. Interviewer: You'd say you'd say something different cause you're younger? Or 461: #1 Well what level of educated # Interviewer: #2 you're better educated or? # 461: education that I have. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Then another thing is most people's got T-V Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: and you hear this and uh a lot of people don't go to church. You asked me some questions in here about the Bible Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: but I I know because I go to church Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: but they some that don't go and they wouldn't know that. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Uh then they's other questions you ask that's just like the other day when you ask me about wet rock or wet rock. I could take you right now to I would I would bet my last dollar if you asked a fella what it was he'd tell you wet rock. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: right tonight. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Okay Interviewer: That's interesting cause I mean that that you can comment on you know what 461: Mm-hmm Interviewer: #1 what older people would tell you. # 461: #2 Well I feel like that's what you # Interviewer: Yeah yeah that that's just the type of thing 461: And then there's words like I said that we used to say Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Uh well I used to say whit rock Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: but uh and that was thirty years ago when I was old enough to realize I used it for awhile until I got up to know and learn what it wasn't wet it was the wet. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Well now and then I started using it and I don't use it that particular word. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Where as these people still back behind me use it. I mean you know Interviewer: Yeah 461: less educated. Interviewer: Say um say if your children were out later than usual you'd say well I don't guess there is anything wrong but still I can't help but feeling a little? 461: Worried or upset. Interviewer: Or a little? 461: They're out late at night? Interviewer: uh-huh you say you wouldn't feel easy about it you'd say you feel? 461: Uneasy Interviewer: Huh? 461: Uneasy Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Now listen uh I don't think that we would say that well I'm a little unea- we wouldn't say that we uneasy. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Now our boys been out Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: I'd I'd say that we worried about 'em Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: well it would actually be uneasy Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: we don't I just don't use that. Interviewer: Mm-hmm you might say well it's going to be alright just don't? 461: Worry Interviewer: And um that y'all might say I'm not going upstairs in the dark I'm? 461: Scared Interviewer: Mm-kay and um you might say well I don't understand why she's scared now she what's the opposite of used to be? You'd say I don't see why she's scared now she? 461: Used to be. Interviewer: Or meaning that before she hadn't been. 461: I know what you mean Interviewer: Using the how do you what's the opposite of used to be the expression used to be? 461: Now Interviewer: uh-huh but I'm wondering if you'd say something like usen't to be or didn't use to be or? 461: Well uh Interviewer: #1 use not # 461: #2 okay # Interviewer: to be or how? 461: Well wait a minute okay now uh somebody could say I'm scared to go out to that barn. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Say it's my boy here now he's a say one of sixteen-year-old I say son go out and feed the horse Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: he says I'm scared to go out there. Well I said uh why are you scared now you used to didn't be. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: So I I guess that uh that's what you want I don't know what it would be. Interviewer: That that's what I was wondering about. Say um someone who leaves a lot of money on the table and then goes out and doesn't even bother to lock the door you say he's mighty? 461: Careless Interviewer: And um you say well there is nothing really wrong with aunt Lizzie but sometimes she acts kind of? 461: Uh uh out of her head out of her mind losing her mind. Interviewer: Did you ever use the word like queer or queer? {C: pronunciation} 461: Well that word has been used but I I I never have used it much. I've heard it and might of used it but it really didn't mean it. Interviewer: #1 How did you? # 461: #2 Acting queer # different. Interviewer: How did how did how was it used how did what did it mean? 461: Well I've I've used I've heard the a the word queer used uh the way you talking about it. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: And uh I've also use- I heard it used in the sense of sex. Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear it used as a um as a noun you know say so and so was a queer? 461: Yeah Interviewer: Before it it had a sexual meaning. Meaning someone calling saying 461: #1 Yeah it was a # Interviewer: #2 he's a queer meaning # 461: they did it for just to a a well it was identification of that person. Somebody said it uh um well what I'm talking about as a queer. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Uh downgrade Interviewer: mm-hmm {NW} 461: #1 But # Interviewer: #2 It would # 461: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 461: I don't know now listen I tell you something else now It's according I used to I would be uh well I used to drink Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: and this particular environment Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: you would hear these words {NW} used. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: But now I mean uh the uh association with the people that I I mean the the people that I associate with now they have no reason to use that word. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: And it's been years since I've heard it used. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: But there you go again you take people around the bar room or somewhere like that that would use this word queer I'm talking about Interviewer: mm-hmm meaning this having sexual meaning? 461: That's right Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: But uh they never did do it with the true meaning they would just say well he was a he was a queer this is where it's associated with sex. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: And then aunt Lucy's queer now see I didn't mean to say that she was queer. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: I mean in this sex meaning but she was she acted queer like it she is crazy or a wasn't just right. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Had no sex implication at all. Interviewer: mm-hmm and um say someone who is real sure of his doing things his way you know won't listen to anyone else won't there's no use of arguing with 'em cause 461: Bull headed Interviewer: Huh? 461: Bull-headed Interviewer: Okay any other words like that? 461: Stubborn Interviewer: Okay and somebody that you can't joke with without him losing his temper? 461: Um speaker#3: Headstrong 461: I guess so I don't know. Interviewer: Or say if there's um there's one subject that um you know that you you can't tease someone about you know like you say um 461: Okay well now she can dish it out but she can't take it Interviewer: Or you say you you better not um 461: Joke with her Interviewer: Your or bring that subject up with her she's awfully when it comes to that she's still awfully? 461: Sensitive Interviewer: Yeah that that's the meaning. 461: Touchy Interviewer: mm-kay um 461: That's a touchy subject with her. Interviewer: Yeah that's that's what I was getting at. Um and you might say well I was just kidding him I didn't know he'd get so? 461: Take it so seriously. Interviewer: Or he'd get so 461: Aggravated. Interviewer: mm-hmm or all the sudden he just got real? 461: Uh mad Interviewer: mm-kay 461: now they wouldn't say angry I mean he'd get mad Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Okay Interviewer: Would you what is the difference to you between angry and mad? 461: Angry is just a more uh sophisticated name for mad. Interviewer: And say if someone was about to lose there temper you might tell 'em to just keep? 461: Cool Interviewer: Or keep? 461: Keep your cool. Interviewer: Or another thing you might say? 461: Calm Interviewer: Huh? 461: Calm Interviewer: Okay and say if you had been working very hard you'd say that you were very? 461: Tired Interviewer: Any other expression? 461: Pooped Interviewer: mm-kay or you might say if you were really tired you'd say I'm just completely? 461: Exhausted Interviewer: Or using the expression wear out you say I'm just completely 461: Wore out you'd say completely wore out. Interviewer: mm-kay and say if um 461: That's commonly used Interviewer: uh-huh 461: very common now. Interviewer: Say if someone came home early from from school you might say well the the school nurse sent him home because he what sick he? 461: Was sick The nurse? Interviewer: Yeah or you might say he he was sick well you say um say if someone was in the hospital you might ask well well he was looking fine yesterday when was it that he? 461: Took sick Interviewer: mm-kay and um say if a person had been out in the rain and came in and was sneezing and his eyes were running and nose was running you'd say that he? 461: Taking a bad cold. Interviewer: That he what? 461: Taking a bad cold. Interviewer: Or if it had already happened you'd say he what? 461: Caught Interviewer: Hmm? 461: Caught a bad cold. Interviewer: mm-kay and if it affected his voice you'd say he sounds kind of 461: It affects his voice? Interviewer: #1 Yeah # 461: #2 Horse # Interviewer: #1 # 461: #2 # Interviewer: mm-kay and if you go {NW} like that you say you have a? 461: Cough Interviewer: And um say if had gotten someone some medicine and then you went in you might ask um why haven't you? 461: Taken your medicine. Interviewer: And you might say I already? 461: Took it Interviewer: And in another house I'll? 461: Take some more. Interviewer: And if you can't hear anything at all you say you're? 461: Deaf Interviewer: And um say if a man had been out working and he takes off his shirt and it's all wet he'd say look how much I? 461: I say sweated. Interviewer: mm-kay a little sore that comes to a head is called a? 461: Pimple Interviewer: Or another name? 461: Blister boil Interviewer: mm-kay and um when a boil opens the stuff that drains out is called? 461: Puss Interviewer: Okay and she'd say um a bee stung me in my hand 461: A bee stung in on my hand. Interviewer: and my hand if you say it got bigger you'd say my hand? 461: Swelled Interviewer: And you say it's still pretty badly? 461: Swollen Interviewer: And you say if a bee stings you your hand will? 461: Swell {NW} Interviewer: And when you open a blister the liquid that comes out is called? 461: I call it water. Interviewer: mm-kay and say if someone got shot or stabbed you'd say you have to get a doctor to look at the? 461: Wound Interviewer: mm-kay and you know sometimes a wound doesn't heal back right and it's got to be cut out or burned out do you know what I mean? 461: Cut out Interviewer: Or did you did you ever hear a name for that some kind of flesh? 461: Proud flesh Interviewer: mm-kay and 461: Do you got to get up okay. Interviewer: Say if um if you had a little cut on your finger brown liquid medicine that you could put on? 461: Iodine Interviewer: mm-kay and you know 461: We used to call that rodine Interviewer: Huh? 461: Used to call it rodine Interviewer: mm-kay what about a a real bitter white powder that you used to give? 461: Quinine Interviewer: Okay anything you used to call that? 461: No Interviewer: Do you quinine quinine you? 461: No quinine. Interviewer: Do you know any crude ways of saying that a person died? 461: Crude ways to say that he died? Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Uh no I don't I don't think so I I know words that used he passed away expired Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Died passed on Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: I don't know of a crude way. Does anybody use such things? Interviewer: I was saying something like kicked the 461: Oh kicked the bucket? Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Well I I mean I don't I guess it is a word uh crude way to say it but. Interviewer: That's not really serious or 461: No they wouldn't uh well it well what it is it says when I kick the bucket I want you to get me some flowers. Interviewer: Yeah 461: But you don't hardly ever hear Interviewer: You don't say it when it actually happens. 461: No uh you say my neighbor kicked the bucket you know call his name but say you say well Barbara when I when I kicked the bucket send me a dozen roses. Well you know jokingly like that. Interviewer: Yeah 461: But I never heard it used seriously. Interviewer: mm-hmm Say if um you might say well he's been dead a week and nobody's figured out yet what he's died? 461: From Interviewer: Okay 461: or with. Interviewer: And what would you probably say? 461: I'd say from. Interviewer: Huh? 461: I would say from. Interviewer: uh-huh and a place where people are buried is called a? 461: Cemetery Interviewer: What about an older? 461: Yes sir graveyard. Interviewer: mm-kay 461: Now I'm gonna tell you what I'd say well when I was a young boy very seldom you'd hear the word cemetery used it would be graveyard. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: They gonna have a graveyard working or cemetery working see this is where the people in the community goes and cleans up the cemetery Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: cuts the grass and everything. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Just a few weeks ago I went to a cemetery working Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: years ago it would have been a graveyard working. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Okay? Interviewer: What about what they put the body in? 461: Used to be coffin Interviewer: What do you call it now? 461: Casket Interviewer: mm-kay 461: Now let me tell you that word coffin was very common. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: I know thirty years ago Interviewer: Casket is just a very recent word? 461: That's right. Interviewer: What about the ceremony? 461: Funeral Interviewer: mm-kay And if people are dressed in black? 461: Wait a minute now Barbara wait a minute I'm a tell you thirty years ago we would go uh okay did you go to the uh so and so Ms. Jones died Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: did you go to the burying? Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Down at Barfield cem- uh graveyard? Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Burying B-E-A-R-I-N-G I guess it was a burying. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: But now then it's a funeral. Interviewer: mm-hmm {X} 461: Now this is something that you may not uh I mean have in the record but that was a common thing in this area was a burying. Interviewer: Okay and what about when people are dressed in black? What do you say about them at at a funeral? 461: Sorrow Interviewer: You say that they're in? 461: Sympathy Interviewer: Or they're maybe the family you say that they're dressed in black you say that they're in? 461: Mourning Interviewer: mm-kay did would you have an expression for say if someone you could say that they're in mourning or what if they just completely lose control of themselves? 461: Hysterical emotional Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Uh wait a minute let's see what do they uh Interviewer: Taking on or 461: #1 Oh yeah taking on # Interviewer: #2 carrying on # 461: taking on taking on. Oh they really had to they was really taking on. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Okay that's it taking on. Interviewer: What does that mean exactly taking on? 461: Emotional hysterical crying hollow. Interviewer: You think of it as being sincere though don't you? 461: No Interviewer: You don't? 461: I not now I don't. Used to I did. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: There's a lot there's a lot of put on. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: {X} I can't help but believe it but uh it's an act. Interviewer: Mm-hmm 461: Really a lot of it. There's some seriousness to it Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: but the biggest uh portion of that now is a put on. Interviewer: And um 461: And it was then but I didn't know it. Interviewer: Oh so so people haven't changed you just gotten more? 461: That's right. That's right. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: People hadn't changed. Interviewer: Um on an average sort of day if someone asks you how your feeling you'd say? 461: Now? Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Yeah I'd say fine. Yeah uh feeling good. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: I guess uh well now people that we could go down now we could take a survey in Wausau biggest portion walk in the door and say how you feeling tonight. They don't they'd either say good or I feel bad. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: They wouldn't say fine. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Very some may. Interviewer: uh-huh um you know this this is a well when you're getting old and your joints start giving you trouble you say you got? 461: Old age Interviewer: #1 Or? # 461: #2 Arthritis # Interviewer: mm-kay anything people used to say or did they say arthritis? 461: Rheumatism Interviewer: mm-kay what about a a disease that children used to die from they they'd choke up in the night they'd get blisters on the inside of their throat? 461: Croup Interviewer: Or worse than that. Well like you wouldn't remember any children dying from it but did you ever hear dip- 461: Diphtheria Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Yeah I heard of it but I never you know personally uh known of a case. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: But I've heard of diphtheria I I've took shots once. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about a disease that makes your skin and eyeballs turn yellow? 461: Yellow? Jaundice. Used to call it yellow jaundice. {NW} Oh Interviewer: And when you have a a pain down here and you have to have an operation you say you've got? 461: Appendi- citis Interviewer: mm-kay any? 461: Wait a minute used to call it a {NW} died with a appendicitis. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Appendi- appendicitis Interviewer: uh-huh 461: That's right. Interviewer: And um say if someone ate something that didn't agree with them and it came back up you'd say he had to? 461: Vomit used to say puke. Interviewer: Was is puke cruder sounding to you? 461: Yeah nasty vomit uh to me is uh uh more of uh sophisticated word for I mean more than Interviewer: #1 More neutral # 461: #2 puke. # Interviewer: sounding or? 461: Yeah Interviewer: Any other word besides vomit or? 461: Puke Heave Interviewer: Is heave sort of crude sounding or #1 or does it sound alright to you? # 461: #2 No it sounds better than puke puke is # nasty. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: I never did like to use that and then when I was using it I knew there was something wrong about it. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: I felt like there was. I was ashamed to use it in certain places. Interviewer: mm-hmm and if someone vomited you'd say he was sick where? 461: On his stomach Interviewer: Huh? 461: Oh his stomach Interviewer: Okay and um say if a boy was spending a lot of time with a girl kept on going over to her house and so forth you'd say that he was? 461: Going steady Interviewer: mm-kay isn't that sort of a modern word? 461: Going regular Interviewer: Huh? 461: It's modern going steady Interviewer: uh-huh 461: um used to they used to say that they're going regular. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: But now then they go steady. Interviewer: uh-huh and he would be called her? 461: Steady uh boyfriend Interviewer: mm-kay and she would be his? 461: Girlfriend Interviewer: And if a boy came home with lipstick on his collar his little brother would say that he had been? 461: Uh smooching Interviewer: Any other words? 461: Uh kissing or something like that. Interviewer: And um when the girl stops let the boy come over to see her you'd say she? 461: Broke off Interviewer: mm-kay um and you say well he asked her to marry him but she 461: Refused Interviewer: mm-kay and you say 461: Said no Interviewer: mm-kay 461: you know refused. Interviewer: Or you say they were engaged and all the sudden she? 461: Broke up Interviewer: mm-kay any other words like turned him down or guilted him or gave him the gate or? 461: Oh yeah um dear john. Interviewer: Hmm? 461: Uh when you when they broke up Interviewer: uh-huh 461: She uh {NW} turned him out and let him out or let him down or Interviewer: uh-huh 461: give 'em a dear john you know what old song. {NW} Broke up Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Split up Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: #1 you can split up. # Interviewer: #2 At a # at a wedding the boy that stands up with the groom is called the? 461: Best man Interviewer: And the woman that stands up with the bride? 461: Bridesmaids Interviewer: mm-kay any 461: Probably we fixing to get ready to eat so okay turn your tape off. speaker#3: I'm gonna ask you this before you leave you gotta start Interviewer: Yeah go ahead speaker#3: Uh what will you whenever you finish this graduate school at what how or what will you do? I mean in this study how is that gonna how how you gonna apply to this to your career really? 461: Yeah well you're a student uh? In a way how can you afford to come down and stay where in a cheaper motel? Interviewer: Oh they I'm on an expense account 461: Oh yeah Interviewer: So 461: Who's expense account? Interviewer: Emory University in national endowment for the humanities. 461: Oh Interviewer: I couldn't afford it on my own. 461: I was wondering you know Interviewer: Um do you remember um though this would have been before your time but do you remember hearing about um say when people in a community would get married um other people would um ring ring cow bells or fire off a pistol? 461: Serenades Interviewer: Huh? 461: Serenade Interviewer: mm-kay do do you remember what that was like? 461: No now I never did experience any of that but I heard about it I knew what they's talking about. Interviewer: And um 461: Shoot a gun up through the top of the house Interviewer: {NW} Did they do that? 461: Oh they done everything I think. speaker#3: {X} I've heard um put say sand spurs Interviewer: uh-huh speaker#3: in their bed like the was gonna {X} {NW} Yeah but while the ceremony was going on they would go in fill the fill the bed full of sand spurs. Or somebody hide in in a another room in the house you know Interviewer: uh-huh speaker#3: {X} then they get sand spurs. {NW} Interviewer: Um say there was trouble at a party you'd say the police came and they didn't arrest just one or two of 'em they arrested the? 461: Whole bunch Interviewer: And um what young people go out in in the evening and move around on the floor to music you call that a? 461: Dance Interviewer: Do you remember um names for different kinds of dances? 461: Charleston Interviewer: mm-kay 461: jitterbug {NW} Interviewer: Do you remember um 461: Two step Interviewer: uh-huh what about a dance that they'd hold at home? Did you ever hear any? 461: Square dance Interviewer: mm-kay and um say if children get out of school at four o'clock you'd say at four o'clock school does what? 461: Well we used to say sch- turns out. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: But schools out a four oh clock. Interviewer: Would would you say turns out now? 461: No Interviewer: And after vacation children might ask when does school? 461: Start Interviewer: And um say if a boy left home to go to school and didn't show up that day you'd say he? 461: Was tardy Interviewer: Anything else? 461: Played hooky Interviewer: mm-kay and um say after high school you go on to? 461: College Interviewer: And um after kindergarten you going to the? 461: Elementary school Interviewer: But which? 461: First grade Interviewer: mm-kay is that what they used to call it when you were little? Did you ever hear primer or 461: Well yeah oh yeah. Interviewer: {X} 461: Well this was this primer was before the fist grade. Interviewer: How did that go? 461: You never did go to well now the way I uh the first school I went to was a primer. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Then I went to the first grade. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: So I don't know I guess uh if they have a kindergarten then it would be primer Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Kindergarten primer and first grade. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: But now I didn't have a kindergarten. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: I went to primer to primer. Interviewer: Huh 461: I was a book too. You had a book that said P-R-I-M-E-R I believe. Interviewer: Huh 461: A little thin book Interviewer: uh-huh 461: had to read that or do something you know I don't know all the way through it or something. Well you started there then you went to first grade. Interviewer: I see and you say years ago children sat on benches but now they sit on? 461: Sit on benches? Interviewer: Yeah years ago they sat on benches at school but now they sit at? 461: Desk Interviewer: mm-kay and each child has his own? 461: Desk Interviewer: And if you wanted to check out a book you'd go to the? 461: Library Interviewer: And to mail a package you'd go to the? 461: Post office Interviewer: And you'd stay over night in a strange town at a? 461: Motel or hotel. Interviewer: And um you see a play or a movie at a? 461: Theater Interviewer: And if you were real sick you might have to go into the? 461: Hospital Interviewer: And the woman that'd take care of you? 461: Nurse Interviewer: And um you catch a train at the? 461: Depot Interviewer: Say if there's a an intersection and there's a house it say there's a house at this corner and there's a house over hear you know diagonally across the street from it 461: mm-hmm Interviewer: say that these houses sit how from each other? 461: {NW} {X} Interviewer: mm-kay how else do you use that word? 461: What? Interviewer: How else tell me how you use that word what what that word means and? 461: Well uh {NW} I think that just by direction of movement I mean um I if I if I'll say this if I would uh {NW} if I was going this way it would be straight across this table. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NW} 461: Anniegogglyn Interviewer: If it curved sort of? 461: Well yeah Interviewer: uh-huh 461: yeah it curved. Interviewer: I see say if you if you cut across a vacant lot would you say you were walking anniegogglyn 461: #1 Right # Interviewer: #2 across it? # 461: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # What about a word kitty-cornered or catty? 461: Yes catty-corner Interviewer: Does that mean the same thing or? 461: Right Interviewer: mm-kay and um 461: Boy I'll tell you what I believe Barbara you was born in the country. Interviewer: {NW} 461: I believe you was raised knowing catty-corner and anniegogglyn {NW} you telling me something. Oh let's tell country people together I'm I'm proud you taping this I want you to play it to your professor. {NW} Oh Interviewer: Um you say before they had buses in town they used to have um something that? 461: Street cars Interviewer: And you might tell the bus driver now this next corner is where I want? 461: To get off Interviewer: You say here in Washington County Chipley is the? 461: County seat Interviewer: And if you were a post master you'd be working for the federal? 461: Government Interviewer: And the police in town are supposed to maintain? 461: Law and order Interviewer: And um the fight between the North and the South was called the? 461: Civil War Interviewer: And um any other names for that? 461: North and So- war between the North and the South. Interviewer: mm-kay and um you say before they had the electric chair murderers were? 461: Hanged Interviewer: And you say the man went out and 461: #1 Hung himself. # Interviewer: #2 what himself? # Huh? 461: Yeah I would I said hung himself but he hanged himself. Interviewer: Would you mind shutting if I shut that door? 461: Oh yeah wait a minute {NW} That professor won't know what to think see you say he think you went off down in a night club and went juking. Interviewer: {NW} 461: Did you ever hear of that for a juke joint you did we talked about that the other day didn't night life? Interviewer: I don't think so. 461: A juke joint a place up the road right up here is a juke joint. That's where you go off and drink whiskey and get drunk. Interviewer: Is that the same as like you call the machine the? 461: Juke box Interviewer: uh-huh I say I pronounce the word different it sounds 461: Oh yeah how do you pronounce it? Interviewer: Juke 461: Juke {NW} Okay yeah you got it. Interviewer: I didn't I guess it is the same word it just sounds. These are some names of some states and somes cities um the biggest city in the country is in? 461: The state of New York. Interviewer: mm-kay and Baltimore is in? 461: Maryland Interviewer: And what are some of the states in the south? 461: Some of the states? Interviewer: Yeah 461: Florida Tennessee North Carolina South Carolina Georgia Alabama Interviewer: And above Tennessee? 461: Above Tennessee? The things in the states in the south above Tennessee. Interviewer: Well just 461: Oh states above Tennessee? Interviewer: Yeah 461: Well Kentucky I don't Kentucky and Virginia and uh Pennsylvania. Interviewer: What about moving toward the um 461: North West? Interviewer: Or just toward the west. 461: California Oregon Utah Washington Interviewer: Um and the the show me state is? 461: Missouri Interviewer: And what's the biggest city there? 461: In Missouri? Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: I say Kansas City Interviewer: Or what about another one? I don't know if it's the biggest or not but? 461: Missouri no no no St. Louis Interviewer: mm-kay and um Little Rock is the capital of? 461: Arkansas Interviewer: And Jackson is the capital of? 461: Mississippi Mississippi Interviewer: The state just down from Mississippi is? 461: Just down from Mississippi Lou- it's got to be Louisiana or either Alabama I mean it joins somewhere in there. Interviewer: mm-hmm and the Lone Star state is? 461: Texas Interviewer: And Tulsa is in? 461: Oklahoma Interviewer: And Boston is in? 461: Massachusetts Interviewer: And the states from Maine to Connecticut are called the? 461: What is that? Interviewer: The states from Maine to Connecticut? 461: New England Interviewer: mm-kay and the biggest city in Maryland? 461: I would say Baltimore. Interviewer: mm-kay and the capital of the United States is? 461: Washington D-C Interviewer: And the old historical sea port in South Carolina? 461: South Carolina sea port? Interviewer: Starts with a C 461: Charleston Interviewer: Hmm? 461: Charleston Interviewer: The city in Illinois? 461: Chicago Interviewer: And what are some of the bigger cities in Alabama? 461: Birmingham Mobile Interviewer: The capital? 461: Montgomery Interviewer: And the city up in the mountains in North Carolina? 461: The city in the mountains Nashville sure got some good music there. Interviewer: I like that 461: You like country western? Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Country and gospel music? You like gospel music? Quartet type? Interviewer: I don't I've never listened to that much I don't 461: But you like that uh country? Interviewer: I started liking that recently 461: Okay {NW} I know I got I tell you what I want that professor to hear you sing some of these country songs on this tape. {NW} Interviewer: What are some of the cities in Tennessee? 461: Nashville and Knoxville oh yeah Johnson City. Interviewer: What about the the Capital over at oh no 461: Nashville Interviewer: That's Nashville well the biggest city in Tennessee? 461: The biggest city in Tennessee? Interviewer: Yeah over in we- west Tennessee? You're thinking of east Tennessee now. 461: Yeah Memphis Interviewer: mm-kay and the city um just right did you go to Tennessee by through Georgia when did you drive up there? 461: And I come back through there. Interviewer: Well the city that um that's just right outside the Georgia border one of the cities that Lookout Mountain is there. 461: Chattanooga Interviewer: What are some of the cities in Georgia? 461: Atlanta Savannah Augusta Macon Interviewer: And the city that Fort Benning is near? 461: Columbus Interviewer: Some of the cities in Louisiana? 461: Baton Rouge New Orleans Interviewer: The biggest city in Southern Ohio? 461: Southern Ohio? Interviewer: mm-hmm the Reds came from. 461: Cincinnati Interviewer: The biggest city in Kentucky? Where they have the Kentucky Derby. 461: Lexington Interviewer: Or that's that's one I was think of. 461: Lexington Interviewer: Yeah but there's another one though where they have the Derby. 461: And it starts with an L? Louisville Interviewer: The 461: Is that wait a minute let me ask you something Lexington is Lexington the capital of Kentucky? You know that slipped my mind I don't even know. Interviewer: I'm not sure 461: Okay I want you to let your professors hear that. {NW} Okay I don't know I don't got a thing to find out what the capital. Interviewer: The the country where they have um where they've been having a lot of fighting is Northern? The country um Belfast is in Northern? 461: Ireland Interviewer: mm-kay and Paris is in? 461: France Interviewer: And Moscow is in? 461: Russia Interviewer: Say if someone ask you to go with 'em somewhere and you're not sure you want to you might say? I don't know 461: I don't know if I want to go there or not. Interviewer: Say if you wanted someone to go with you somewhere you might say well I won't go what he goes? 461: I won't go unless you go with me. Interviewer: Okay and um you might say well I had a choice of doing two things I I was gonna do this but I decided to do that? 461: Instead Interviewer: One of the largest churches largest protestant churches in the south is the? 461: I say the Baptist. Interviewer: mm-kay and two people become members you say they? 461: Members of the church? Interviewer: Yeah they become members you say they? 461: They become members of the church. Interviewer: Or another word for that when they became members you say they what the church they? 461: Join Interviewer: mm-kay and you go to church to pray to? 461: God Interviewer: And you say the preacher preaches a? 461: Sermon Interviewer: And you say the choir and organist provide the? 461: Music Interviewer: And say if you if you really liked the music you say that music was just? 461: Great Interviewer: mm-kay 461: Wonderful Interviewer: Any? 461: Outstanding Interviewer: mm-kay and the enemy of God is called the? 461: Devil Interviewer: Any other names for him? 461: Satan Interviewer: What would you tell children was gonna come get 'em if they didn't behave? 461: Devil Interviewer: You y'all 461: I wouldn't say satan to come get you I'd say devil is gonna come get you. Interviewer: Is that is satan a worse a more serious word or something? 461: I don't I associate it on the same level. Interviewer: What about something like bogeyman or bad man? 461: Oh yeah bogeyman. That was common a long time ago. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Because the bogeyman was gonna get me Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: but the devil's gonna get my boys. Interviewer: What do people think they see at night around a graveyard? 461: Ghosts Interviewer: Any other name for? 461: S- spooks Interviewer: mm-kay 461: Hants {NW} Wait a minute you ever heard that? Interviewer: Hant? 461: Yeah Interviewer: I've never heard I I've heard of it I've never. 461: Now that was pretty common wasn't it May? speaker#3: Yeah hant you know usually it is haunt now Interviewer: uh-huh speaker#3: like they gonna haunt you it used to be hant. They gonna hant you. 461: Yeah but uh wait a minute they say you better not go by that cemetery there's hants down there. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Okay Interviewer: What about a house that was people were scared to go in? 461: Hanted house it was a haunted house you know but we called it hanted house. Interviewer: Do you have any of those around here? 461: Yeah Interviewer: Did you ever believe in any of them? 461: No well uh they had me pretty well Interviewer: You didn't go you didn't- 461: brainwashed for awhile. I did thinking about it now my boys they get a thrill and and I know they do because I did to take 'em to some old house you know you walk around slowly and look what's in that room you know and saw and uh they still they get a thrill out of it. And every time I find one I I go with them because I know that they call it spook house and there's something thrilling about it but I never did see one. A spook or hant or anything else. I guess it is just like a santa clause you grow out of stuff like that. Interviewer: You might tell someone um you better put a sweater on it is getting? 461: Cold or cool. Interviewer: Or it's not really cold it is just getting? 461: Chilly Interviewer: You might say um well I'll go with you if you really want me to but I'd? 461: Rather not go. Interviewer: And what do you say to a friend that you haven't see for a long time? What how would you express your feelings about seeing 'em? You say I'm? 461: I'm glad to see you. Interviewer: Okay 461: Long time no see Interviewer: mm-kay say if someone says something kind of shocking and you sort of resented them saying it you might say why the very what of you saying that why the very? 461: I don't follow you Barbara. Interviewer: Someone says something that you sort of resented them saying you know? 461: I just tell 'em I didn't like it. Interviewer: Or or you didn't think they had a right to say that you might say well the very what of you saying that? The very 461: The reason for you saying that. Interviewer: But I was wondering if you say something like the very idea or the very idea of you saying that or. 461: Uh really what you I mean I I wouldn't do that. I say really really what you talking about. Interviewer: Did you see hear people say that say the very idea of that or? 461: Yeah well no I know what you're talking about and maybe I have heard it a little bit but what I what I've heard is that they'll just say now what what are you talking about? The idea it might've been used but it's it's not commonly used around here people here if they if you say something and they want to know what you digging at Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: they'll just ask you then what you talking about? Interviewer: When a friend of yours says good morning 461: They want you to explain it. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: In fact I just heard a conversation a lady says you explain what you mean about panky-panky see? Interviewer: uh-huh 461: This girl says your child's been panky-panky. This lady says I want you to explain what is panky-panky. Interviewer: What is it? 461: Well uh some kid on the bus would just playing with the girls in other words you see. {BEEP} Fix us some coffee please ma'am would you? Interviewer: When a friend of yours says good morning what might you ask? 461: I say good morning. Interviewer: Or do what might you you're asking him about his health you might say? 461: How are you this morning? Interviewer: And when you introduce- 461: I don't mean to say it I'm trying to find out has he got the TB or cancer Interviewer: uh-huh 461: but how are you feeling good or bad? Interviewer: uh-huh what about when you introduce to a stranger? 461: When I'm introduced to a stranger? Interviewer: Is there a more formal question you ask him or anything? 461: If the person don't call his name I'll ask him what his name is. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: And then turn right around and forget it. Interviewer: {NW} 461: But I don't want I want to know what like I did you but if somebody says uh so and so from Atlanta well tell me who I'm talking to. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: If you don't then I say uh did you say your name was so and so? I want to find out. Interviewer: Would you ask 'em how they're feeling or or would you say that to a stranger? 461: I don't think so I wouldn't ask 'em how they are feeling. I'd ask 'em maybe how they enjoying their stay or something because they would be strangers Interviewer: Mm 461: I wouldn't ask him how he was Interviewer: And say if someone if a group of people had were leaving after a visit you might say well I hope hope y'all come? 461: Okay say you talking about strangers? Interviewer: Or j- no just say 461: Just people? Interviewer: friends or something. 461: No they say that they're leaving. I would say this I would ask them wouldn't they stay longer. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: They say we got to go. I'd say don't rush off it's just a habit and they'd done been here all night don't rush off. {NW} Well the get out Interviewer: uh-huh 461: well come to see us again and I might even say y'all well I don't say no I wouldn't say y'all come you know how that is? Interviewer: Yeah 461: I would say though come see us again. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: We wouldn't say y'all come but now used to every time somebody would come to our house y'all come. Interviewer: Who would say that the person who was leaving or the person who wait you say y'all come back or? 461: No uh a person will say I've got to go. speaker#3: {X} 461: He would get up Barbara if we'd be talking well I've got to go. Go on out the door see Y'all come saying it to the person where she was just leaving. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: And then that person would respond and say well y'all come see? Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Just like that. Interviewer: I see 461: Okay then two hours later I could over to that house. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: And when I get ready y'all come see well y'all you better believe that you all is common around here it's like youins in the Carolinas. I don't know what all that but Interviewer: Do you ever hear people say well come with us? Did you ever hear that? 461: Yeah come and go with us. Interviewer: Yeah 461: Oh yeah Interviewer: #1 That sounds cause I mean # 461: #2 Yeah just like it # since you stayed all night you wanted them then to go with you. Interviewer: Yeah 461: {NW} Oh but I tell you Barbara it's Interviewer: {NW} 461: That's like I said awhile ago friends can come here well I might do now since we talked I may not do it I may be self-conscious but I say don't rush off Barbara. Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: You don't it's just a saying I don't. Interviewer: Yeah how do you greet someone around December twenty-fifth? 461: Around December twenty-fifth Merry Christmas. Interviewer: Any other expression? 461: And a Happy New Year. Interviewer: Do you ever hear Christmas gift? 461: Yeah oh yeah now Barbara you I tell you what y'all believe you was raised down here in these woods. Um Barbara now here's the story behind that do you know it? The first person and okay now I've got a friend down the road if he comes to my house and sticks his head in the door and says Christmas gift before I get down and say Christmas gift at his house Interviewer: Is this on Christmas Day or? 461: It's on Christmas Day. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Now then there's a Christmas Eve gift yeah and a New Years Gift. speaker#3: New Years Eve 461: You see on all these holidays you get that Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: you get that on the other person say like Christmas Eve gift or Christmas gift or New Years Gift oh wait a minute I'm wrong about that Barbara maybe I'm wrong it's Christmas Eve gift Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: because Christmas Eve come just before Christmas. I don't think that's used on Christmas but it is New Years. And more common on Christmas Eve but you don't hear that the more now. Or maybe somebody may say it but they don't mean nothing about it. Interviewer: Well what happens when you say it first? 461: You got to exchange a gift. Interviewer: Then then if I went up to your house and say Christmas Eve gift then you'd owe me a gift? 461: That's right Interviewer: And you say the same thing on New Years? New years 461: Barbara I'll tell you what used to I meet with {X} he's a he was a little older than I am he's about four years older than I was. He lived over it must've been about two miles and that joker would get up and come and stick his head in that door and wake us up and holler Christmas Eve gift and they'd have to get him a gift. He and my aunt had got to competing you know in other words she'd either go and get it on him or he'd come and get it on her but that was that Christmas Eve gift and she had to get 'em a gift. Interviewer: {NW} 461: If she didn't you know that was part of it. Interviewer: uh-huh you might say I have to go downtown to do some? 461: I'd say shopping now but I didn't use that that word shopping wasn't used when I was coming up. It was everything else. I got to go downtown to buy some groceries. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: But now it's shopping. Interviewer: Say if you bought something you'd say the store keeper took out a piece of paper and? 461: Wrapped Interviewer: And then when I got home I? 461: Unwrapped it Interviewer: And say if you had to sell something for less than you paid for it you'd say you had to sell it? 461: I used to uh when you talking about they used to wrap wrap. Okay what? Interviewer: Say say if you had to sell something for less than you paid for it you'd say you had to sell it at a? 461: Discount Interviewer: You sold something for two dollars that you had paid three dollars for. 461: I sold it Interviewer: Say if you see something that you like but you don't have enough money for it you'd say well I like it but it too much? 461: Costs Interviewer: Okay when it's time to pay your bill you say on on the first of the month the bill is? 461: Due Interviewer: And if you belong to a club you have to pay your? 461: Dues Interviewer: And if you don't have any money you might go to the bank and try to? 461: Borrow Interviewer: And you say in the thirties money was in the thirties money was? 461: Worth more Interviewer: Or if it was you might say it was tight or you might say it was? 461: Tighter speaker#3: Scarce 461: Scarcer I think it was tighter it wasn't I mean they said it was tighter money was scarce oh it was tight. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: They talk about tight money now particularly in the republican administration they start talking about tight money not scarce. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: {X} I'm just saying the words that are associated around here. Interviewer: Say um he ran down the spring board and he what into the water? 461: Jumped Interviewer: Or you go head first you say he? 461: Dove Interviewer: And you say um several children have already? 461: We used to say dived. Interviewer: uh-huh how how would you say that? 461: Dove Interviewer: I mean would you say dived for both he dived in and he has dived in? 461: And they dived in. Interviewer: uh-huh and you say but I was too scared to? 461: Dive in Interviewer: And if you dive in and hit the water flat you call that a? 461: Belly buster well that's what you'd say Interviewer: Yeah 461: {NW} Interviewer: I heard that when I was 461: That's just old city talk too it's just a belly buster where it's in city or or country is that right Barbara? Interviewer: Well there's belly flop or 461: Uh uh never heard that. Interviewer: Say a child puts his head on the ground and then rolls over and turns? 461: Somersault Interviewer: Anything you used to say? 461: Oh yeah it was a somerset back in it was a somerset wasn't it May? Interviewer: You say he someone wanted to swim to get across the river you say he dived in and what? 461: Swam Interviewer: #1 You say um # 461: #2 Well back then it was swum across the. # Interviewer: Say I have what there before myself I have? 461: Swam Interviewer: Say children like to? 461: Swim there. Interviewer: When you buy something or pay your bills some store keepers will give you a little present and say that it's for 461: Present? Interviewer: When you pay your bill or something 461: Gift? Interviewer: uh-huh did you ever hear the expression {X} 461: Never heard it in my life. Interviewer: {X} 461: No Interviewer: It means the sort of a gift given. 461: No never used in Wausau. Interviewer: And say if someone didn't know how to swim you say he got in the water and he? 461: Dog paddled Interviewer: Or he died in the water you say he? 461: Oh float Interviewer: Say he went down for the third time and then he? 461: Drown Interviewer: And you say I wasn't there so 461: Drowned I think is what we used to say. Interviewer: uh-huh you say I didn't see? 461: Go down or drown. Interviewer: mm-kay and you say after he went down the third time you say that he was? 461: Drown Interviewer: And what does a baby do before it's able to walk? 461: Crawl Interviewer: You'd say that would be a hard mountain to? 461: Climb Interviewer: But last year my neighbor? 461: Climbed it. Interviewer: But I have never? 461: Climbed it Interviewer: Do you ever say clumb? 461: Yeah Interviewer: #1 Is that what's used? # 461: #2 Oh yeah # Wait a minute let's see how it is somebody says that's well you know {X} I climbed that a million times If I have used the word clumb I clumb slap up to the top. {NW} Interviewer: Would you use that word slap now? 461: That means to the very top Climb slap to the top Interviewer: And you say she walked up to the alter and she what down? 461: Knelt Interviewer: Say if you were tired 461: She kneeled down probably say that she kneeled down Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: but she knelt. I would say knelt. Interviewer: And if you were tired you'd say I think I'll go over to the couch 461: Rest Interviewer: or what down? 461: Lay Interviewer: Talking about things that you see in your sleep you say this is what I? 461: That I see in my sleep? Dreamed Interviewer: And you say? 461: About this is what I dreamed about. Interviewer: mm-kay say often when I go to sleep I? 461: Dream Interviewer: But I usually can't remember what I have? 461: Dreamed about Interviewer: And um 461: Dreamp uh we used to say dreamp. Interviewer: How would you say that? 461: D-R-E-M-P that's what I dreamed about. D-R-I I dreamed about you last night. Interviewer: You say I dremp? 461: No I used I'd say I dreamed about you last night. Interviewer: {NW} I dreamed I was falling just when I was about to hit the ground I all the sudden I? 461: Woke up Interviewer: And um if you bring your foot down heavy on the floor you say you? 461: I'd say stomp. Interviewer: mm-kay 461: Stamp stomped the floor. Interviewer: If a boy sees a girl at church and wants to go home with her he'd ask her may I? 461: Walk you home. Interviewer: mm-kay what if you had a car? 461: Carry you home probably what he'd say. Interviewer: To get something to come towards you you'd take hold of it and? 461: Pull it Interviewer: And the other way would be? 461: Push it Interviewer: Okay 461: or shove it. {NW} Interviewer: And um say if you had a sack of groceries and didn't have your car you'd say you picked it up and? 461: A sack of groceries? Interviewer: I picked it up and what it home? 461: Helped Interviewer: Well I'm thinking you might say I carried it but what other word might you might people around here say? 461: Toted it uh uh used to say tote I would carry it Interviewer: uh-huh 461: tote is is something that you got the arm up. Interviewer: And you might tell a child um now that stove is very hot so? 461: Don't touch it. Interviewer: You know an outdoor game children would play where um on child would be it and all the other children would hide? 461: Hide an seek Interviewer: Okay is that what you always called it? 461: No I tell you what we used to say hide and go seek. That's what we used to call it hide and go seek. Interviewer: uh-huh 461: Or hide and go see is really Interviewer: That's what 461: what we used to call it. Interviewer: Hide and go see? 461: Right hide and go see. Interviewer: What would you call you know there would be one tree maybe that you could touch be safe what would you call that? 461: That's what it was. Interviewer: Well the the I mean would you call the base or the home? 461: The base I don't remember what that place was seemingly like it was home. Home no it wasn't home it might of been home wasn't home base but maybe it's home I forgot what it's been a long time Barbara since I played that. Interviewer: What about um what you'd run toward in football? 461: Goal line Interviewer: mm-kay and you say you throw a ball and ask somebody to? 461: Catch it Interviewer: And you say I threw it and he? 461: Caught it Interviewer: And you say I've been fishing but I haven't? 461: Caught any Interviewer: And you might say there's no need to hurry if I get there first I'll? 461: Wait Interviewer: Wait I'll wait? 461: For you Interviewer: Say if you were about to punish someone he might say um don't punish me just give me another? 461: Chance Interviewer: You say if a man was in a very good mood you might say he's in very? 461: Spirit Interviewer: Okay or someone who always catches on to a joke? You'd say he's got a good sense of? 461: Humor Interviewer: Say and we've got termites now but I'm sure the exterminating company will get? 461: Rid of them Interviewer: Child left a pencil on the desk and came back and didn't find it there you say I bet somebody what my pencil? 461: Stole it Interviewer: You might say I have just what him a letter? 461: I don't I don't think that uh I don't know I don't think that I'd say if if I met well now see I'm not a kid now but just because my pencil's gone I would think I'd say somebody picked it up in every in most cases I wouldn't say that somebody stole it I think somebody picked it up maybe. Interviewer: Is there any sort of slang word that a kid would use? 461: Snooked it Interviewer: And you say I have {NW} what him a letter? I have just? 461: Wrote Interviewer: And you say um yesterday he what me? 461: Wrote Interviewer: And tomorrow I will? 461: Write him Interviewer: And you say oh I wrote him and it's time I was? 461: Reply an answer Interviewer: And you say you put the letter in the envelope then you take your pen and you? 461: Address it. Interviewer: mm-kay anything older people used to say? 461: Dress it I guess. Interviewer: #1 Do you ever here back? # 461: #2 I believe # Interviewer: #1 # 461: #2 # Interviewer: Back the letter? 461: Oh yeah right very common. Interviewer: What was that? 461: Back a letter that be that's used some today. Interviewer: And you might say well I was gonna write him but I didn't know his? 461: Address Interviewer: A child that's always running and telling on the other children you'd call him a? 461: Tattle tale Interviewer: Would you use that word about a grown person? 461: I wouldn't call 'em a tattle tale I'd call him a tattler. Tattle tale is for something small kid. I would identify 'em could be said as a tattler or gossiper but you know a tattler. Interviewer: And say if you wanted to to get some flowers um brighten up your room you'd say you were gonna go out and what some flowers? 461: Well I'd say Barbara I'm gonna pick some flower. Interviewer: Okay 461: Or gather some flowers probably say gather. Interviewer: Something that a child plays with you'd call a? 461: Toy Interviewer: Any other name for that? Did you ever say play pretty or something? 461: Yeah that's not used much now well one reason I'm older but I don't say my kids have got some play pretties they got toys. But now my folks did and when I was there well you know not their age now because well maybe I did have some toys play pretties but they my folks identified my toys as play pretties. Interviewer: Just any toy? 461: Yeah oh well yeah a toy cause a B-B gun wasn't was not classified as a toy. Interviewer: What was that? 461: Say a B-B gun see but uh if it was a truck that would run around on the floor it'd be a toy. Interviewer: #1 Or a play pretty. # 461: #2 I mean a play pretty. # Interviewer: Say that's the um that's the book that you what me for Christmas? 461: Bought gave me. Interviewer: Say if I borrowed something of yours I might say when I'm finished with it I'll what it back? 461: Give it back to you. Interviewer: Because you've already? 461: Gave me Interviewer: You say I'm glad I carried my umbrella because we hadn't gone half a block when it? 461: Started to rain Interviewer: mm-kay and you might ask um what time does the movie? 461: Start Interviewer: Or using another word? You'd say what time does the movie? 461: Begin Interviewer: And you say it must've already? 461: Started Interviewer: Or it must've already? 461: Begun Interviewer: And you say it what ten minutes ago? 461: Began Interviewer: People want to get to some place in a hurry they? But you say they either walk or they? 461: Run Interviewer: They have what a mile everyday that say I was feeling so good I what all the way home? 461: Ran Interviewer: Say you can't get through there cause the highway departments got their machines and the road's all? 461: Blockaded Interviewer: Or all tor-? 461: Torn up Interviewer: And say you give someone a bracelet and you want to see how it looks on her you say why don't you? Give someone a bracelet and then you say well go ahead and? 461: Put it on Interviewer: You might say well that wasn't an accident he did that? 461: Purpose Interviewer: And say if you had a question I might say well I don't know the answer to your question you better go? 461: Ask someone else Interviewer: And you say so then I went? 461: I went and asked someone. Interviewer: And you say well you've already what me that? 461: Told me that Interviewer: Or you've already? 461: Answered my question. Interviewer: Or you're the second person whose what me that? 461: Told me that. Interviewer: Or talking about asking question you're the second person? 461: Ask me that. Interviewer: And you say those little boys like to what each other? 461: Fight Interviewer: And you say every time they met they? 461: Fought Interviewer: And ever since they were small they have? 461: Fought Interviewer: And you'd say she what him with a big knife? 461: Stabbed him or cut him. Interviewer: And say if you were gonna lift something heavy like a 461: Used to call 'em stob used to call that stob. Interviewer: mm-kay and if you were gonna lift something heavy like a piece of machinery up on a roof you'd say you'd use pulley blocks and a rope to what it up? 461: Hoist Interviewer: Now would you start counting slowly 461: One Interviewer: mm-hmm 461: Two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen Interviewer: mm-kay and the number after nineteen is? 461: Twenty Interviewer: And after twenty-six? 461: Twenty-seven Interviewer: And twenty-nine? 461: Thirty Interviewer: Thirty-nine? 461: Forty Interviewer: Sixty-nine? 461: Seventy Interviewer: Ninety-nine? 461: One hundred Interviewer: Nine hundred ninety-nine? 461: One thousand Interviewer: And ten times one hundred thousand? 461: Ten times one hundred thousand? Interviewer: One? 461: Million Interviewer: And say if you had a line of people standing somewhere the person at the head of the line you'd call him the? Or he'd be the number one man he'd be the? Say if there were eleven people in line the number eleven man would be the eleventh man. The number one man would be the? 461: He'd be the head man. Interviewer: Or the 461: lead man. Interviewer: Not the eleventh it be the? 461: Number one man. Interviewer: Or the 461: First Interviewer: Okay behind him would be the? 461: Second man Interviewer: Okay keep going. 461: The third man and the fourth man and the fifth man the sixth man the seventh man the eighth man the ninth man the tenth man. Interviewer: And you say sometimes you feel you get your good luck just a little at a time but your bad luck comes all? 461: At one time. Interviewer: Okay 461: You know it's like this uh there's a saying we say it that we heard there'd be days like this but we didn't know they would come in pods like bananas. Interviewer: {NW} 461: {NW} Interviewer: Never heard of that. Say if you said something two times you would be saying it? 461: What? Interviewer: You said something two times you would be saying it? 461: Two times Interviewer: uh-huh or another word for that you'd be saying? 461: Double Interviewer: Or you said last year I got twenty bushels to the acre but this year I got forty so this years crop was? 461: Double Interviewer: Or what as good? You say it's two times as good or you say it was? 461: Twice as good. Interviewer: Would you name the months of the year? 461: January February March April May June July August September October November December Interviewer: And the days of the week? 461: Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Interviewer: Okay what about sabbath? What does that mean? 461: Sunday Interviewer: If you meet someone in the early part of the day what do you say as a greeting? 461: Good morning Interviewer: And how long does morning last? 461: Twelve oh clock sharp. Interviewer: Then what do you have? 461: Evening good evening Interviewer: mm-kay do do you say good evening to people when you meet them like like good morning? Say if you were leaving someone at about eleven oh clock in the day would you say anything as you were leaving? I mean any expression like good? 461: Good bye Interviewer: mm-hmm What about good day? Do you ever hear that? 461: Yeah probably say that Interviewer: When do people say that? When they are leaving or meeting someone or what? 461: When they leaving Interviewer: What about 461: probably I mean it don't matter whether it's in the morning or evening. Interviewer: What about when you were 461: Unless you get on over and it gets dark. Interviewer: Then what do you say? 461: Good evening Interviewer: Or if you were leaving somebody's house after dark what would you tell 'em? 461: Good evening Interviewer: Even at about this time? 461: Maybe good night now. Interviewer: uh-huh What when does evening stop and night begin? 461: Not too long after dark I don't know what time. {X} Interviewer: Yeah say if um if you have to get up and start work before the the sun comes into sight you'd say had to get up and start work before? 461: Before day Interviewer: Or before sun? 461: Sun rise Interviewer: And I worked until 461: Sunset Interviewer: And you say um this this morning the sun what at six o'clock? 461: Rose Interviewer: And yesterday at that time the sun had already? 461: Rose Interviewer: Huh? 461: Rose Interviewer: And you say this morning I saw the sun? 461: Rise and I did Barbara I watched {X} Interviewer: #1 You saw the sun rise? # 461: #2 I saw the sun rise didn't I may? # Interviewer: I'm never up in time. {NW} Um 461: A country girl who don't get up early Interviewer: {NW} 461: Talking about red bugs and all that stuff. Interviewer: {NW} You say if um today is is tuesday then monday was or 461: {NW} Interviewer: not today? 461: Yesterday Interviewer: Huh? 461: Yesterday Interviewer: And wednesday is? 461: Tomorrow Interviewer: And if someone came on a sunday not last sunday but a a week earlier than that you'd say he came here? 461: Sunday was a week ago. Interviewer: And if he was gonna leave on a sunday not next sunday but a week beyond that you'd say he's gonna leave? 461: Sunday week Interviewer: And if someone stayed from the first and to the fifteenth you'd say he stayed about? 461: Two weeks Interviewer: Okay any other expression for that? That people say around here or 461: I don't think so I might of I don't think so stayed about two weeks. Interviewer: uh-huh and if you wanted to know the time you'd ask somebody? 461: What time do you have? Interviewer: And you might look at your? 461: Watch Interviewer: And if it was midway between seven oh clock and eight oh clock you'd say that it was? 461: Seven thirty Interviewer: Or another way of saying that is? 461: I don't we don't well that's the one way of saying it. Interviewer: Well how how how would you? 461: Seven thirty Interviewer: Or what about another way? Using the word half you'd say it was half? 461: Half past seven Interviewer: If it was fifteen minutes later than that you'd say it was a? 461: Quarter to eight. Interviewer: And if you had been doing something for a long time you'd say I've been doing that for quite? 461: Some time Interviewer: Or for quite a? 461: while Interviewer: And you say nineteen seventy-two was last year nineteen seventy-three is?