Interviewer:  um
464:  {D: I'm old} chairs. Pillow slips and slides
Interviewer:  #1 Oh okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Um talking about different kinds of animals um what do you call the kind of animal that barks?
464:  Dogs.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if you wanted your dog to attack another dog, what would you tell 'em?
464:  Sic him I reckon.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What different kinds of dogs are there?
464:  Well they bulldogs and hounds and curs and {D: feists} and all them kinda thing {C: laughing}
Interviewer:  What's a cur?
464:  Well I tell you, I sure couldn't tell you what he is but I just hear them talking about cur dogs.
Interviewer:  Is it a big dog? Or
464:  #1 Uh-huh yeah, it's #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
464:  a biggun. Them feists are little bitty old things.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Are there different kinds of hound dogs?
464:  Yeah they different kinds. I tell you, I couldn't tell you what kind {D: there} different kinds
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 {NW} #
464:  I heared 'em talk about 'em but I can't tell you the I know I hear 'em talk about curs and hounds and and feists. I know a feist when I see 'em and I know a cur dog but I don't know what different kinda cur he is.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Say if if you had a real mean dog you might tell someone you better be careful, that dog'll
464:  Bite.
Interviewer:  And you say yesterday the dog
464:  Bit.
Interviewer:  And
464:  Sometimes.
Interviewer:  you say that person had to go to the doctor after he got
464:  Bit by the dog. Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Okay. Do you ever say after he got dog-bit?
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  Would you ever use the word dog-bit? So-and-so got dog-bit?
464:  mm-hmm. Yeah, I have used that word.
Interviewer:  How?
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 How # would you
464:  I {X} he got dog-bit. That's what I'd say.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  I don't know how to say it but that's what I'd say {C: laughing}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  {X}
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um the kind of animal that you keep for milk?
464:  For milk?
Interviewer:  Yeah. That you milk.
464:  Milk cow. A cow.
Interviewer:  Whe- what do you call the male?
464:  Well I'd call him a bull.
Interviewer:  Was that word always nice to use?
464:  {NW} no {C: laughing} {NW} {NW} {D: no} {NW} no it wasn't nice but that's what I'd call 'em. A bull.
Interviewer:  Did you remember what um did women used to use that word?
464:  mm-hmm. Yeah old folks used it too, that's the reason I used it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Is there any other way of saying that?
464:  Well let's see, a male.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  And a a little cow when it's first born is called a
464:  Calf.
Interviewer:  And if it's a female it's a
464:  Female.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. A female calf.
464:  mm-hmm. {X} A heifer what I always called 'em. Little heifer calf and a female calf.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What if it's a male?
464:  Well I don't know I'd always call him a little bull calf {X}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
Interviewer:  And
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 if you had a cow that #
464:  my legs are burning, that's alright go ahead and talk, I'm just gonna get something to go over my legs.
Interviewer:  If {NS} you had a cow that was gonna have a calf you'd say the cow was going to
464:  Suckle.
Interviewer:  {NS} Okay. Anything else people would say?
464:  No I sure don't know now.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear find a calf or {D: drop a}
464:  #1 Uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 calf? #
464:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Something? #
464:  I've heared that too.
Interviewer:  What? {C: Speech distortion} find a calf such a cow gonna find a calf. Heared that. Okay.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  And um the animals that you plow with.
464:  Mules and {NS} horses.
Interviewer:  #1 And #
464:  #2 Oxens. #
Interviewer:  How how are they hitched together?
464:  Say how is they hitched together?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  I ain't never plowed none hitched together, I've plowed 'em single. You know back 'em up between the shafts and put a collar or yoke or something on 'em like that. Plow 'em like
Interviewer:  What about mules? If you had two of them working together?
464:  Well {NS} hitch one on one side and one on the other but I ain't never plowed none together like that. But I have seed 'em plowed together like that.
Interviewer:  What do they call that?
464:  Say what do they call it? {NW} double double-plowed I reckon.
Interviewer:  {D: No} do you ever hear team or pair?
464:  mm-hmm. Yeah I've heared a pair of mules.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  Horses and things hitched up together.
Interviewer:  And um the animal that you ride, you'd call that a
464:  Mule?
Interviewer:  Or a
464:  Or a horse.
Interviewer:  Huh?
464:  Mule and a horse.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if it's a female horse it's called a
464:  I've I've heared it. But I done forgot now what they call it.
Interviewer:  What about the the male horse?
464:  Male horse? Stud?
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  What we always called 'em {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  is that {NS} that piece of wood there is smoking.
464:  {NW} {D: here} {NS}
Interviewer:  This one here?
464:  Uh-huh. You can drag it back out that way a piece you know? Just
Interviewer:  You don't remember what they call the female horse?
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  You don't remember what they call the female horse though?
464:  I always called 'em stud horse.
Interviewer:  What's
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  was stud a nice thing to say? {NS}
464:  No, it wasn't nice but I'd always say it {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 what #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 What else would people say #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} They'd s-
Interviewer:  if they didn't want to say stud?
464:  I don't know. I reckon they call 'em a female I reckon. I don't know what, I oughta tell ya I'm so forgetful, I done forgot. A lots of that stuff what they used to call things.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Say um say everyone around here likes to what horses?
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  Everybody around here likes to
464:  Ride horses?
Interviewer:  And you say last year he {NS} what his horse?
464:  #1 plow #
Interviewer:  #2 everybo- #
464:  he plowed him.
Interviewer:  Or he got on it and
464:  And rid him around. {NS}
Interviewer:  And you'd say but I have never {NS} what a horse?
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  You say but I've never {NS} what a horse?
464:  Plowed one?
Interviewer:  Or I've
464:  #1 I've #
Interviewer:  #2 never #
464:  rid one?
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  Well I have rid a many of 'em but {NW} I couldn't {X} {NW} That's all the way I had to {D: talks}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  You know uh {NW} my mother lived across the creek back over there where my brothers lives at now and she got sick and I would uh get out there and plow until about eleven o'clock then I'd throw me a quilt on the old mule old horse we had throw it on there and I'd ride him over there see about her.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  But it's been years since I rid a horse. I don't expect I'd hardly I'd know to hitch one up to a wagon now if I was to have to {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} but I knowed how then but I don't expect I'd know how now. But I have rid horses. Plowed horses. Plowed oxens and done a little of everything in a farm but all this here late model stuff I don't know nothing about that. Sure don't. I've done passed the stage all but washing and ironing when this late model stuff come in
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} And sewing {D: all} scraps. But I say I know two more old ladies I spec- I bet would be glad to talk with you.
Interviewer:  Who's that?
464:  Ellie King and Coral Williams, you don't know them do you?
Interviewer:  Uh-uh.
464:  {NW} I bet they'd be glad to talk with you, I told children this morning I said it was nice talking to that girl last night. But my old tooth went to started grumbling and I want to go to doctor on it but it don't bother me this morning. I ain't got but two or three but sometime they hurts. {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Say if um you were riding a horse and and you couldn't stay on him you'd say I fell
464:  Off of him.
Interviewer:  Huh?
464:  Fell off a him.
Interviewer:  Okay. And say a a child went to sleep in bed and woke up and found himself on the floor in the morning.
464:  He fell off of the bed.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the things that you put on the horse's feet you'd call those the
464:  Uh horseshoes.
Interviewer:  Okay. What parts of the feet do you put the horseshoe's on?
464:  On the front part of 'em.
Interviewer:  The do you call that part the
464:  Uh-huh the hoof part I call it. Goes down like that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  And before you put the shoes on you have to trim {D: on} the horse's
464:  Hoofs.
Interviewer:  And um do you know a a game that they play with horseshoes? Did you ever see that?
464:  No I never did see that. Where they played a game with horseshoes.
Interviewer:  You know they'd they'd throw 'em?
464:  Uh-huh. I've heared tell of 'em throwing 'em but I ain't never see'd it.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Um #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Do people raise sheep around here?
464:  They used to did it but there ain't none around here now. I don't know when I have seed a sheep around here. This old fellow lived back over there in this {X} He had a pasture and he had it full of sheep. But I ain't heared tell of a sheep in I don't know when.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Used to raise goats around here but I don't hear tell of them neither.
Interviewer:  What do people raise sheep for?
464:  {NW} To get the wool off 'em.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What do you call the male sheep?
464:  {NW} I don't know.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
464:  #2 sure # don't.
Interviewer:  Do you know what the female sheep is called?
464:  Uh-huh. No I don't know what it's {X} heared 'em talking about females and females that's all, I don't know what they would call 'em.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
464:  {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  And the the animals that you you'd keep for meat?
464:  Hogs.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  And cows.
Interviewer:  {D: And} talking about the hogs, when they're first born you'd call 'em
464:  Pigs?
Interviewer:  Okay. And then when they get a little older you call 'em
464:  Shoats
Interviewer:  About how big is a shoat?
464:  Well they get's about like that.
Interviewer:  #1 About #
464:  #2 About # like
Interviewer:  eighteen inches or so?
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Um then if they're female they're called
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  If they're female you'd call 'em
464:  Let's see now I have to study. What they call 'em? Boars? Barrows
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  After they done cut 'em I called 'em barrows.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And if it has pigs it's called a
464:  Sow.
Interviewer:  Okay what if if {NS} it's never had pigs?
464:  Well I don't know what you'd call that either.
Interviewer:  Uh it wouldn't be a sow then, it'd be a
464:  Uh-huh. Was {X}
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  I have to sort of think over them things cause I'm forgetful but I s- well lots of it I know it but I done got so old I'm forgetful, I forget what they call 'em.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah #
464:  #2 {NW} # Yeah they'd call them {D: guilt} what ain't never had no pigs. {NW}
Interviewer:  What about um the male hog?
464:  Wha- they call them boars.
Interviewer:  Well that's if he's been cut
464:  {D: Cut} Uh-huh, they cut 'em. But if he ain't cut they call them a male right on I reckon.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What what about boar
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Boar hog?
464:  Well when they cut they call them boars.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Is that one not nice? #
464:  {NW} No it ain't nice. {NW} {NW} But that's what I always heared 'em call 'em. {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
464:  {NW} Yeah but the nicest way I think is uh boar hog.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  It ain't been cut it ain't been cut. {NS} That's the way I think it would be the nicest way to call 'em, a boar hog. They ain't cut. But we always called 'em boars when they weren't cut {C: laughing} {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Um and those those stiff hairs that a hog has on its back?
464:  Bristles.
Interviewer:  And those big teeth?
464:  Tushes.
Interviewer:  And what do you put the food in for a hog?
464:  Say what do you put it in for?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Corn and
Interviewer:  Well what
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 what do you #
464:  shorts
Interviewer:  Shorts?
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What's that?
464:  That stuff that they makes in the field. In the on these farms.
Interviewer:  Shorts?
464:  Uh-huh. That's what we always called it, shorts.
Interviewer:  Is it something growing? Or
464:  Growing, yeah it grows and then they cuts it and carry it to the mill and have it whipped off or beat off or something. Bring it back and sack it up and they call it shorts.
Interviewer:  Is it a kind of oats? Or #1 something? #
464:  #2 Uh-huh. # Like oats or something like that.
Interviewer:  Huh.
464:  Shorts and then they t- to take corn and chop it up. And make shorts out of it. You know chop it up in big old grains.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Then what do you pour the food into?
464:  Into a trough.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if you had several of those you'd say you had several talking about that trough
464:  Several troughs?
Interviewer:  Okay. And um when you're um driving a horse, what do you hold in your hands?
464:  Bridle.
Interviewer:  Or when you're when he's hitched to a wagon?
464:  Oh you hold lines in your hand
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 when you # hitch to a wagon. I thought you was talking about when you was riding him or something.
Interviewer:  Well
464:  #1 You #
Interviewer:  #2 what #
464:  have a bridle bits in his mouth {D: for the} short bridle to it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What about the thing that you hold in your hand?
464:  Huh?
Interviewer:  What about the thing that you hold in your hand then?
464:  I call that the bridle. What I hold in my hand when I'm riding and if I was in a wagon I'd call it the lines.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Wagon lines.
Interviewer:  What are your feet in?
464:  Say what the feed in?
Interviewer:  What what do you put your feet in?
464:  In a trough.
Interviewer:  No whe- when you're riding on a horse.
464:  Oh.
Interviewer:  You're
464:  #1 a #
Interviewer:  #2 feet. #
464:  a saddle.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Well what what about the part of the saddle that your feet go in?
464:  The no rides in the saddle and put your feet in the stirrups.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  I told you I'm forgetful {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 Wha- # got to give me time to study or {C: laughing} {NW}
Interviewer:  {NW}
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um when you're plowing with two horses what do you call the one that walks in the front? Or did
464:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Did you # ever plow with two horses?
464:  No I ain't never plowed with two.
Interviewer:  Did you
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 ever hear #
464:  a name for the one that walks in the front? The leader I reckon.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um say if you were gonna feed the hens and turkeys and geese and so forth {NS} you'd say you were gonna go out and feed the
464:  The chickens.
Interviewer:  Okay. Whe- when you talk about chickens does this mean turkeys and geese?
464:  Uh-huh. {NW} Yeah that's what I'd call it.
Interviewer:  It means everything?
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  And um a hen on a nest of eggs would be called a
464:  Sitting hen.
Interviewer:  And um you know when you when you eat chicken the bone that goes like this
464:  That's the chest bone I call it. Breastbone. That 'un up in here?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  I'd call it the breastbone.
Interviewer:  Are there any stories about that?
464:  Huh?
Interviewer:  #1 You know #
464:  #2 {X} # No
Interviewer:  Take
464:  Pull it pulley bone, pulley bone I call it.
Interviewer:  Is that
464:  #1 Uh-uh #
Interviewer:  #2 the same as # the breast bone?
464:  Uh-huh, it {D: comes} next from the breastbone.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Just cut a little piece up here. And back up under each p- part over here. Then pull that off.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NS} And I have heared people say I reckon it was the old folks'd say say you cooked that chicken and that little pulley bone up there they call it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Like you take hold of one end and I take hold of one end and stick it up over the door, that was old folks' talk now. Stick it up over the door and the first man to walk up under it that's the one you was gonna marry.
Interviewer:  You didn't
464:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 tear it # apart?
464:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  You take
464:  You can take one end and me take one and pull it apart.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And stick it up over the door {NS} and the one that got the biggest part of the bone they said the first man that walked up under that door why that's the one you was gonna marry. But I never did try it, I just heared 'em say that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Did you hear 'em call those the long bone, did it have a special name?
464:  Did which?
Interviewer:  Did the long bone, the long end did that have a special name?
464:  {D: uh the} leg part you talking
Interviewer:  #1 No the #
464:  #2 about? #
Interviewer:  long piece of the pulley bone.
464:  Oh that was uh uh I don't know, I've heared it but I done forgot what they called it now. I know they called the other part of it the breast bone, breast part.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Where they pull that pulley bone from that was the breast they said.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Where do you keep chickens?
464:  Say when do you keep 'em?
Interviewer:  Where do you keep 'em?
464:  {NW} in a chicken yard. A pen.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What about a a shelter for 'em?
464:  Uh-huh, well you makes a little house for them to go in and then you has uh yard around that little house.
Interviewer:  What do you call that house?
464:  Chicken house, the chicken yard, chicken farm.
Interviewer:  What about a place for the mother hen and the little chicks?
464:  They have them in coops.
Interviewer:  What does that look like?
464:  The thing build up like a like a just a little pen built you know. Around like this and a top over it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  It's got air holes in it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  And uh the noise that a calf makes when it's being weened
464:  When it's being weened?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  He'd be bleating. We called it bleating, I don't know what {NW} it is
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 What about #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  the noise that a cow makes?
464:  She lows.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the noise that a horse makes?
464:  He wickers.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um {NS} say if it was time to feed the stock and do your chores you'd say that it was
464:  Lowing. Hor- cows lowing
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 and horses # be wicker. {NS}
Interviewer:  And you'd say that it it was what time?
464:  Time to feed 'em.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NS} Would you call that feeding time? Or
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh. # time? Or
464:  Uh-huh. Yeah. Dinnertime I'd call it or suppertime, whichever it was.
Interviewer:  For the stock?
464:  Uh-huh. {NW}
Interviewer:  Okay. And um say if you wanted to get your horses ready to go somewhere you'd say you wanted to
464:  Say if I wanted to get 'em ready to got somewhere?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  I'd get 'em fed and hooked up, ready for going.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. You say before you hitch 'em you have to
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Do what?
464:  {X} Cur 'em.
Interviewer:  Well you'd put the the things on
464:  saddles on 'em but you'd I always before I went to go carry mine anywhere I had an old cur comb, I'd cur 'em. You know get that hair that loose hair off of them. Then I'd put my saddle in gear or whatever I was gonna put on 'em on there.
Interviewer:  What if you were gonna hitch 'em to a wagon? You'd say you had to
464:  Put my harness on him.
Interviewer:  Okay. And how do you call cows to get 'em in outta the pasture?
464:  Well just go out there they used to and call 'em but they got where they now they just goes out there and blow the horn. And the cows go to lowing and coming to 'em
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
Interviewer:  Di- did you hear a call though that people had
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  Did you hear of a call that people
464:  #1 Uh-uh. #
Interviewer:  #2 had? #
464:  They used to have a horn. A deer horn they'd call 'em with.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. But did you ever her people yell anything to get
464:  Uh-huh. No if I did I done forgot it. Sure have.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear co-wench or
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  co-wench or co-boss or sook?
464:  Yeah uh yeah I have heared that. Co-wench and co-sook and all such as that, I've heared 'em call 'em that way.
Interviewer:  Well how how did that go?
464:  Well I don't know it it would go alright cause they know {D: they ain't} so then {D: long} in them days they knowed what they meant when they'd say co-sook co-sook, they'd come running. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} or co-wench or one they'd come. {NW}
Interviewer:  What would you say to make 'em stand still so you could milk them?
464:  {D: Soul} Soul sook, whatever her name was.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Push your leg back. S- s- soul, soul sook soul.
Interviewer:  Sook was her name or
464:  Uh-huh or some of 'em'd be sook and some'd be one thing, some'd be another.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. How do you call a calf?
464:  Co-sookie.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay #
464:  #2 That's the way # I always called 'em. Co-sookie.
Interviewer:  Um
464:  Here they come.
Interviewer:  and what would you tell a a mule or horse to make 'em turn left and right?
464:  Gee and right.
Interviewer:  Okay. Which way was gee?
464:  Right was gee. And haw was left.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. How would you call horses?
464:  Well I always just called mine by their name, whatever their name was. We had one named Laura and I'd just go to the lot and call her. I said come here Laura and she'd come walking on to me. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  What would you say to if you were riding a horse what would you say to get him started?
464:  Get up.
Interviewer:  And if he was already moving and you wanted him to go faster what would you tell him?
464:  I'd just suck my tongue to him and pop him back then, tell him to get up.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And what about to stop him?
464:  I'd say whoa.
Interviewer:  And to make him um back up?
464:  I'd tell him to back up.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um how do you call hogs?
464:  I'd call 'em pigs. I'd just go {NW} to the pen and call pigs. Come on pig. Pig! Pig! Pig! {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
Interviewer:  What about sheep? Did you ever hear people call sheep?
464:  No I ain't never had no dealing with no sheeps.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Sure ain't. And no well he did have some goats one time, a long time ago but I done forgot now how I call them to me. But I ain't forgot how I used to cut their throats. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 You used to cut their #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  throats?
464:  {NW} Yeah lord. I'd get ready for {X} {D: go wide} have the children to run him down, had to cut his throat and hang him up and skin him.
Interviewer:  {NW}
464:  {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  If you run him um if you run him down first wouldn't that make him
464:  Uh if it was a a male goat time you caught him if he was hot you'd had a cut them sacks off. And the hogs the same way, if you get him hot you got to cut them sacks off before you do anything else cause if you don't that scent'll go all over the meat.
Interviewer:  Huh.
464:  {NW} Sure will. Yeah I been all through back in there but it's been so long lots of it. I just can't tell just how I went through with it but I re- remember about them hogs and goats. {NW} And them male cows too.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Had a time you'd catch one, if you make him hot you got to cut them sacks off. Don't that scent'll go all through the meat.
Interviewer:  Huh. Why did you um why did you eat the the males? I thought their their meat wasn't as good?
464:  Well
Interviewer:  was tougher.
464:  It is tougher and it's stronger, if you don't cut them sacks off time you kill it. But if you cut the sack off time you kill him you can't tell no difference in it.
Interviewer:  Is it same as say a steer then?
464:  Uh-huh. Yeah.
Interviewer:  How do you call chickens?
464:  {X} get out there and call 'em chick! Chick! Chick! Chick! Chick!
Interviewer:  Uh-huh, okay.
464:  They'll come running.
Interviewer:  {D: Okay}
464:  I used to raise chickens but I done got so old {D: with mine} don't have enough money to buy the feed so I don't mess with 'em, I just buy what chickens I eat out of the stores.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
464:  {NW} That ain't much. Cause I don't have much, don't have no money to buy 'em with. Enough things got so high until can't buy much no how. You know one while I was on the welfare but {NS} they take me off the welfare, I don't get but just one little check now. {NS}
Interviewer:  How come they took you off the welfare?
464:  Well they said I went in the hospital and I didn't pay all of my doctor bill while I was in there {NS} and they cut it off, I said well look like they would've waited {X} {NS} got it paid before they cut it off. {NW} {NW} That'll be a plenty on there {NW} {NW} {NW} Oh lordy. I went out this morning and picked up that trash. That girl what was here a while ago that's what I was talking about {NS} here way back first of the year I believe there come a little storm or something. And she got a lots {D: old creek} drowned her house and broke off some of them limbs and knocked the porch in and they got 'em sawed up for house wood. That's what I was talking to her about while ago back when she sell me some of it. To go on the fireplace cause you get some oakwood and put on there now them little chips and things'll keep a fire a long time with that oakwood. So I said I was gonna get some of the
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 boys # go with me out there this evening and buy some of it from her. C them little boards don't last long
Interviewer:  What um when you'd cook on a a wood stove you know?
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  You you had one of those didn't you?
464:  Yeah I used to have one.
Interviewer:  Does it matter which type of wood you use?
464:  no it didn't with me, I used any kind I could get {D: but} {NW} but oakwood is the best to cook on a wood stove. See it won't smoke it up so bad.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  With smut and stuff. Oakwood won't but {D: lighter than} stuff 'em. Chop one up and quick.
Interviewer:  Is there one kind that um what makes um the hottest fire?
464:  Say what makes the hottest fire?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Oakwood when you get it to burn it makes the hottest fire. Just get you a little lighter and put up under some oakwood and get it to burn it and you got you a good fire then.
Interviewer:  Um what's made out of flour and baked in a loaf?
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  What's made out of flour and baked in a loaf?
464:  I don't know. I sure couldn't tell you that now.
Interviewer:  Well it ki- kinds of bread. What
464:  Say what?
Interviewer:  What kinds of bread are there?
464:  Bread? Wheat ain't it?
Interviewer:  Okay. What do you call that that bread that comes in a loaf?
464:  Light bread?
Interviewer:  Okay. And what do you put in light bread to make it rise?
464:  Well I sure couldn't tell you that now {NW} {NW} I sure can't. I ain't no {D: cracker} I don't know.
Interviewer:  Well what
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 what # are some of the things you can
464:  I heared folks say you put wheat and lemme see something else I heared 'em say you put in it but I done forgot it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Cause I ain't never tried to make none. {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Or you could put baking powder or
464:  Uh-huh. Well that's what I puts in my my li- my flour bread, I put some baking powder, some salt you know in there. The uh kind that ain't already prepared.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  I put some baking powder some salt and eggs and or something or another in there.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 My my # flour'd I cook.
Interviewer:  Well what do they call that stuff that you can buy at the store to put put in things to make it rise?
464:  what it to make the flour rise?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Baking powder.
Interviewer:  Well what else?
464:  Soda.
Interviewer:  What else?
464:  Well that's all I've ever put in any of mine. Baking powder, some soda.
Interviewer:  Well you know there's
464:  #1 and uh #
Interviewer:  #2 something #
Interviewer:  you can buy at the store
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  it comes in little packages maybe. These little grains and things.
464:  I don't remember what that is. Sure can't.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear yeast or
464:  Oh yeah mm-hmm sure yeah. Heard of yeast and make it rise too. {NW} But I tell you I just forgets a whole lot of things I used to know, I done forgot about it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What'd you used to call that?
464:  Huh? What you put in there?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
464:  Yeast. And baking powders.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
464:  #2 And # {D: soda.}
Interviewer:  And um what else can you make out of out of flour besides light bread?
464:  {D: I don't know.}
Interviewer:  Well
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 what are #
464:  uh biscuit puddings?
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What's a biscuit pudding?
464:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Biscuit pudding?
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What's that?
464:  You know you cook the {NS} cook the biscuits {NW} and then if you got any left over {D: cold}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  now just put some water milk in 'em to soften them up and mash it up and put you some eggs and flavoring in there and {NS} s- slide it in the stove and bake it.
Interviewer:  Huh.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And that's biscuit pudding?
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Never heard of that.
464:  {NW} Yeah. Us old folks used to do all such as that {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  You say there's two kinds of bread, there's the homemade bread and then there's
464:  Uh what kind?
Interviewer:  There's
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 homemade # bread and then there's the kind that you buy at the store.
464:  light bread?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Well what do you call the kind that you buy? You call that
464:  At the store you
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 talking about? # Light bread.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um talking about how much flour you buy you might say you had maybe a sack of flour would have five
464:  Pounds.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the inside part of the egg is called the
464:  {D: Yelp} I call it. The yellow part?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  I call it the yel- I call it the yelp of the egg.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And when you cook 'em in hot water what do you call them?
464:  Boil 'em. I boil 'em. I call it boiled eggs.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What about when you crack 'em and let 'em fall outta the shells?
464:  Fry 'em. Or scramble them one.
Interviewer:  Well and let 'em fall out of the shells into hot water.
464:  Oh I don't know, I ain't never cooked none like that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um this is something that's it's fried in deep-fat and it's got a hole in the center?
464:  Fried in deep-f- I can't remember what that is either. Sure can't.
Interviewer:  Well you could um it's maybe about this big, it's got a hole in the middle. You could buy it at a bakery or something.
464:  {D: I don't know} I can't think of it. Hell I sure can't {C: laughing}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
Interviewer:  Well I was thinking of donut or something like that?
464:  Oh yeah uh-huh. Yeah donut. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Are there different #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  ways of making donuts?
464:  Yeah there sure is {D: but uh} I don't know can't remember now, it's been so long since I've cooked a donut 'til I can't rememb- {NW} I can't remember them different ways.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Uh-huh. {NW}
Interviewer:  What about something that you you make up a batter and fry three or four of these for breakfast?
464:  Uh
Interviewer:  Eat 'em with syrup and butter?
464:  {NW} uh I know but I can't call the name of it now. I call 'em flapjacks.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 Any other #
Interviewer:  old-fashioned name?
464:  Fritters?
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And what sort of things did you make out of corn meal?
464:  {NW} cornbread and uh chicken dressing.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What about something you might make to eat with fish?
464:  Fish? Uh I don't know cause I don't never make nothing to eat with mine but some bake me some cornbread or {X} eat me some light bread {NW} with 'em {C: laughing}
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Well what about something about this size that's fried in deep-fat?
464:  Deep-fat.
Interviewer:  But it's got cornmeal and onion and pepper maybe mixed up with it.
464:  Uh-huh. Let's see. I know but I can't think now what they what they call. Sure can't, I tell you my mind done I done got so old my mind's got bad, I can't think of things {C: laughing} {NW} {NW} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  What'd people used to you remember when people'd cook on the fireplace?
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What sort of things would they cook?
464:  Say what would they cook?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Cook pone bread in spiders and
Interviewer:  What's
464:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 pone bread? #
464:  {NW} {NW} They'd make up you know make up meal
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  and uh then take take it up, they had it sorta stuff and take it up and in their hands and make pones like that and lay it around in that spider.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And put a lid on it and put a fire on top of the lid and have some coals up under the bottom.
Interviewer:  Huh.
464:  My poor grandma used to cook, she had a great big old spider would hold four pones of bread at a time.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And they had an old fireplace ye- were right back over there. They had a fireplace and it was a big old fireplace, you know it was when it would carry ten ten-foot rail in there.
Interviewer:  #1 Ten- #
464:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  foot?
464:  Ten-foot rail. Sure would.
Interviewer:  {X}
464:  And they'd cook, she had to cook on that fireplace and uh {NW} thinks about it now lots of time my auntie, her baby girl, grandma's baby girl grandma'd be cooking over on this side of the fireplace and it'd be cold my auntie would have old chair like this she'd be sitting up over in the other corner of the fireplace {NW} {NS}
Interviewer:  In the other corner of the fireplace?
464:  She sure did.
Interviewer:  {NW}
464:  Yeah {D: that's her.} You can ask any of 'em around here most that she had a they had a ten-foot fireplace.
Interviewer:  Go-
464:  They cooked on that place in that fireplace. And she had a big old pot about that high
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  and uh she would uh had a garden up the lane there from a {D: peak} She said children come go with me up here and let's get us some greens. We'd go get greens, they had old smokehouse off out there where they'd have dried meat at. She'd go out there and cut her down a hog jowl.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  She'd put that hog jowl on, take us with us up to that garden and she'd cut down some greens, had some {X} {NW} cabbage collards, she'd cut us down a load of 'em and we'd go to the house and she'd go to picking greens and she'd send us it was {NW} they're about further from up on top of that hill over yonder. We had to go across the branch to go to a spring to get water.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  She'd give all of us children a jug two jugs a piece. We'd {D: go} the water and she'd cook that big old pot full of collard greens and had that big old s- s- spider up there and she'd put them four pones of bread {NW} {NW} {NW} yeah lord. Lots of them things. These late model things come along, I forgot 'em but I ain't forgot them old things.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW} Sure ain't.
Interviewer:  Do you remember um ever cooking something out of cornmeal cooking it in ashes?
464:  Ashcake they call 'em uh-huh.
Interviewer:  How #1 would they #
464:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  do that?
464:  {NW} They would {NW} {NW} make it up just like like I was telling you grandma used to make up that cornbread?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Then rake all the coals back and have a bed of hot ashes and wrap it up in piece of paper or something or other, I don't know what she wrapped it up in now but then she'd rake them ashes up on the top of it. And let it lay in there and cook and they called it ashcakes so that's what I called 'em. {NW} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of a hoecake or a corn dodger?
464:  Uh-huh. Yeah I have cooked hoecakes but I ain't cooked no corn dodger. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 What's a #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  corn dodger?
464:  I don't know now what they is. But I have heared of 'em but I ain't never cooked none. Sure ain't. But I would call bread just made up and put in a f- wait and set in the stove and bake it, I'd call that a corn dodger. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 That you put in a #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  what? {NS}
464:  Say what?
Interviewer:  How do you how do you fix that now?
464:  I just make up my {NW} cornbread, I put me some flour and some baking powders and a egg
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  and stir it up. Then put me some grease in it or {X} {D: I forgot} butter, I put butter in it and stir it up and uh put me some grease in the bottom of the fryer in the bottom of the fryer sprinkle me a little f- meal down in the bottom of it
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 that #
464:  fryer. {D: Rake} my cornbread in there. And set it in the stove and bake it and I call that cor- corn dodger {NW} I don't know what it is. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Um did you ever see anybody kill a hog?
464:  Uh-huh. I have killed 'em myself.
Interviewer:  How tell me how you how you'd do that.
464:  Knock him in the head and stab him on his left side. Up under his left {D: I like} said shoulder, up under his left foot arm here and let him bleed.
Interviewer:  You say
464:  #1 Then #
Interviewer:  #2 you #
Interviewer:  did what to him?
464:  Stab him with a knife.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  You know you knock him in the head with a axe.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And then you take a knife and stab him.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  In his left shoulder.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And let him bleed. Then whenever he dies while you have hot water
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  and you have your {X} turpentine barrel or drum or anything like that and pour your hot water in there and put you some turpentine in there. Come off of turpentine trees.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Put it in there and then stick your hog in there and have you some boards out there to pull him out on pull the hair off him.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Put one end in and scald it and pull the hair off of it and then change him around, put the other end in it.
Interviewer:  What um
464:  I I know all that old stuff but I don't know this new stuff. {NW}
Interviewer:  What did you call those parts of the meat then? What {NW} When you how would you cut him then?
464:  Well you c- hang him up and gut him. Hang him up by his two hinds feets and and uh on a stick and gut him.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Take his guts out {X} and then you take him off down from there and have you a table or something to put him on and you cut his his feet off and his head off and then you cut his uh shoulders.
Interviewer:  Uh-
464:  #1 And #
Interviewer:  #2 huh. #
464:  and his hams this the back part they call that the ham.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And this front part they called it the shoulders.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And then you cut him take a axe and chop him open, cut his backbone out and these two parts over here is his his his middlings they called it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {C: traffic}
464:  Then then chop it up like that.
Interviewer:  Then what?
464:  I say and then you chop his backbone up in pieces
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 take his # cut his backbone out. And them middlings you just let them stay whole if you want to and the ham too and the shoulders too.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What do you call um the kind of meat that you buy already sliced to eat with eggs?
464:  Eggs, bacon. {NS}
Interviewer:  I- what's the difference between bacon and middling?
464:  Huh?
Interviewer:  What's the difference between ma- bacon and middling?
464:  Well I don't reckon there no difference in it, look like that come from the middling to me.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW} It seem like it do. {NW}
Interviewer:  What do you call the that outside part that you cut off before you slice it?
464:  Skin?
Interviewer:  Okay. And um when you cut the side of a hog what do you call that?
464:  The sides?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  I call it the middling.
Interviewer:  Would you call that a middling of bacon or side of
464:  #1 middling #
Interviewer:  #2 bacon or #
464:  yeah side of bacon and
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  #1 But you #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
464:  know we always called it the middling
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  when we was coming up. {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  And um what about the the kind of the fat salt pork?
464:  Fat salt pork. Well They cu- they call that I called it the fat out in a hog. You cut it out you cut it out of the part the middling part, the back.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And then you cut off some of the middling part of it and make cracklings out in it what we called it.
Interviewer:  What was that?
464:  Fried up. Dry it up and make we called it cracklings. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} And we'd make crackling bread out of it.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} We would get some cornbread mix meal in the dried-up {NS} {X} the stuff up what we called the cracklings.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And put it in the bread and and put it in the stove and bake it.
Interviewer:  Huh.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What about um the kinda meat that you you'd boil with greens?
464:  Bacon.
Interviewer:  Or that fat
464:  Ba- fat. Yeah I called it let's see now I know what I called it but I done forgot that now. As good as I like to boil with greens I can't think of what we called it {NW}
Interviewer:  Well
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  did you call it um side meat or
464:  #1 yeah uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 fatback or white # meat?
464:  Yeah we called it white meat. That's what we called it. {NW}
Interviewer:  What now what did that what was that like? What part did it come from?
464:  It come from the next to the backbone you know.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Cut the backbone out like that and that'd leave a piece uh fat upside of the rib part of the meat
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  and then you'd cut on both sides of it and cut it out and then you'd cut that off 'em. We called it white side.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  That's what we called it {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Um #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  What'd you call those um well say you might take the the trimmings and slice them up and grind them up and season them. You'd make
464:  Sausage.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What would you call a person who kills and sells meat?
464:  Butcher.
Interviewer:  Okay. And if meat's been kept too long you say the meat is done what?
464:  Gone stale.
Interviewer:  Or it's not not fit to eat anymore you'd say that it's
464:  Uh-huh {D: it's gone} yeah. Sure would, I see'd some down there yesterday that was done turned black as I is just about it. {NW}
Interviewer:  At the store? Or
464:  Uh-huh. They had done picked it out or where they kept the other meat at and put it over in another place and I went there and looked at it. I said {NW} I said they need to give that meat to somebody before it got in that shape. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
464:  #2 I see'd # I see'd a chicken in there here about black as I was.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
464:  #2 I # reckon they was gonna carry it to the garbage but they ought to give it away before it let there and rot like that.
Interviewer:  Yeah. {X}
464:  I would've if it'd been me. Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What um what would you call the the inside parts that you'd eat? Want me to put this on?
464:  Uh-huh. #1 We #
Interviewer:  #2 What #
464:  call 'em chitterlings.
Interviewer:  Okay. What other inside parts?
464:  {NW} Liver and lights. {NS}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  You had a kitty-cornered up in there. {NW} {NW} {NW} {D: that way} You stayed around me you'd learn how to burn long wood, wouldn't you?
Interviewer:  {NW}
464:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 I guess so. #
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Do you have something called the harslet or the haslet?
464:  Yeah they the hearts- and the haslets. And the liver.
Interviewer:  What's the haslets?
464:  That's the lights, we call 'em the lights.
Interviewer:  What part is that?
464:  That's the inside next to the liver.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Is that the lungs? Or
464:  Uh-uh. No. That ain't the lungs. But it's there's uh three three parts in there. It's got some lungs and then he got something that's dark-colored. It's the liver.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 Then that # light-colored that's the lights. And then they got lungs in there too.
Interviewer:  Does anyone ever eat the lungs?
464:  {NW} some folks eats but I ain't never eat none I don't think unless it's when I was a child and didn't know it.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW} But I loved the liver and the lights.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And the heart of a hog. {NW}
Interviewer:  After you'd kill a hog what can you make with the meat from it's head?
464:  Sauce.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  Hoghead sauce they call it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  Take it and boil it. And 'til it get's good and done then cut it up cut you a onion up in it and black pepper and and mash it up put it in a {NW} flour sack, that's the way we used to do it. Put it in a flour sack and hang it up {D: somewhere's and} let the grease drip out. And you can slice it off into pieces like that.
Interviewer:  How long would it take for the grease to drip out?
464:  Mm it'll take about a day if it's real cold weather. But if it ain't why it won't take it that long. {NW} I loves that too. Yeah you cook the feet and the head together.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And then you mash 'em up, pick all them bones out of 'em. Mash 'em up and cut you some onions and put black pepper and salt and sage in 'em.
Interviewer:  Whe- when you say you cook the head the that you have the head in there with the eyes and the brains still in it?
464:  Uh-huh. No no you cuts {NW} you take the head when you cut the jowl off and the this part under here you cut it off and i- then you take the head and you split it open.
Interviewer:  How?
464:  Take a axe and
Interviewer:  #1 {D: along} #
464:  #2 split # uh-huh. Split it open
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 like that. #
464:  And then take the brains out.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And and the pull the eyes out {X} you just cook the ears and the nose and the s- other part of the back part of the head and the feet.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And uh
Interviewer:  What do you with the eyes and the brain?
464:  Throw I throwed the bra- eyes away but I cooked some brain. Put get me some hot water. There a little skim over them brains. And you can take you some hot water and pour them brains and you can skim that little skim off of the brains.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  And then you can put 'em in some water and boil them a little bit. And boil the pull that water off of them. And put you some grease {D: or whatever} butter or something in there and break you some eggs or something in there and stir 'em up.
Interviewer:  What does it taste like?
464:  They good to me, they tastes good {NW}
Interviewer:  Sounds
464:  {NW} sounds nasty though don't it? {C: laughing}
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
464:  #2 {NW} # But they ain't it's clean. If you skim that skim off 'em, just put 'em in some hot water and and that skim'll peel right on off of them brains.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NS}
464:  And then you can boil them a little bit and pull that water off and put you some grease in there break you a egg in there and stir it all up together, they eats good. {NW}
Interviewer:  Do you ever um hear of making something by cooking and grinding up the liver?
464:  Grinding up the liver?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  No I ain't never ground up no liver like that.
Interviewer:  Did you ever heard of anything made out of the blood?
464:  Uh-uh. No I sure ain't.
Interviewer:  Have have you ever heard of scrapple or pon haus?
464:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Scrapple or cripple or pon haus?
464:  Uh-uh. No I sure ain't.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  #1 If I heared #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
464:  it I done forgot about it. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  Um say if you had some butter that was kept too long and it didn't taste right you'd say that the butter was
464:  I'd say it was rank.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um what do you call thick sour milk?
464:  Buttermilk?
Interviewer:  Well that's {NS} that's when it's been churned.
464:  But well that's well after you churn it I always call it buttermilk.
Interviewer:  What about before you churn it?
464:  It's clabber.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Is there anything you can make out of the clabber besides the buttermilk?
464:  Uh no, not as I knows of. I ain't never made nothing out of it {X}
Interviewer:  You ever heard of some kind of cheese being made out of clabber?
464:  I have heared tell of it but I don't know nothing about that.
Interviewer:  You remember what they called it?
464:  I think they called it clabber cheese.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What's the first thing you have to do after milking?
464:  Strain your milk.
Interviewer:  Okay.
464:  And {D: to churn it} or a jar or something.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um say if you took milk or cream and mixed that with maybe some sugar and nutmeg and poured it over pie what would you call that?
464:  Put the s- makes how?
Interviewer:  Well something like milk or cream and with sugar and nutmeg maybe.
464:  I'd call it icing.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um food taken between regular meals you'd call that a
464:  Say which?
Interviewer:  Say if you'd already eaten and but you went in and if you'd already eaten dinner but you went in and fixed yourself something to eat.
464:  I'd call it warmed-over.
Interviewer:  Well what what do you mean warmed-over?
464:  {NW} food dinner snack, whatever you call it.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Warmed-over is as if it's
464:  #1 Uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 already # been cooked?
464:  Cooked, uh-huh. Yeah and
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 I'll go # warm it over again and go eat, I'd call that a warmed-over dinner or supper
Interviewer:  #1 Uh-huh. #
464:  #2 {X} # {NW}
Interviewer:  What about a snack? That
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  what's a snack?
464:  Well I guess I I don't know
Interviewer:  {NW}
464:  what I'd call that.
Interviewer:  Well #1 you you mentioned #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  the word snack. What does a snack mean?
464:  Snack. Just a warmed-over snack I reckon. {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
464:  {NW} {NS} {NW} {NS}
Interviewer:  Um and um what sort of things can you make out of apples? Well that you can make just an apple pie and what else?
464:  Uh-huh. {NW} Apple pie and let's see now I I don't know now I can't think.
Interviewer:  Did you ever heard of um making something that's sort of like a pie only it's got several layers of fruit and dough in it.
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  You put down the dough and then some apples and then some more dough on top of that and maybe
464:  #1 Uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 some more # apples.
464:  Uh-huh. Apple pie.
Interviewer:  {X} did you ever hear something um um apple slump or deep-dish apple pie? Or
464:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Apple # valley or apple cobbler or
464:  yeah I have heared of it but I ain't eat none, I ain't tried to cook none {NW}
Interviewer:  What did you hear it called?
464:  {NW} Let's
Interviewer:  #1 or #
464:  #2 see #
Interviewer:  do you remember?
464:  I can't remember now but I have heared of that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Say um the talking about the the cornmeal again um did you ever hear of um taking just cornmeal and maybe some salt and and boiling that and making something that you could eat with a spoon?
464:  Uh-huh. Soup.
Interviewer:  Or it's not not really soup, it's it's just got cornmeal and salt and water.
464:  {NW} {NW} I don't know what that is. I bet Emmie or Ms Corale could tell you but I can't
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 {NW} # {NW}
Interviewer:  Well did you ever hear something called cush? Or mush? Or um
464:  cush.
Interviewer:  Huh?
464:  cush.
Interviewer:  Well yeah wha- what's that now?
464:  {NW} well my old man used to make it, he'd call it cush, I don't know what it was he'd fry him a piece of meat in a fryer and pour him some water in there then take him some meal
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
464:  and s- stir it up in there, he called it cush, I reckon that's what it was.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay. #
464:  #2 {NW} #
464:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um this is something that um is made out of out of corn. You it's ground up.
464:  Ground up?
Interviewer:  You eat it for breakfast.
464:  Uh uh grits?
Interviewer:  Okay. Do you remember um people taking the corn and and soaking it maybe in {D: lye} water and leeching the husk off?
464:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What was that called?
464:  I call that uh {X} I have eat a any piece of it. Grandma used to cook it for us. {D: Lightcorn, that's what she'd call it.}
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about something it's it's white and it's made from a grain and um well you could eat it with ham maybe. {NS}
464:  {NW} let's see {NW} {NS} {X} let me see.
Interviewer:  Well people in China and Japan eat it a lot. It's white.
464:  I don't know, I must've not have never s- I ain't never got on to that I don't reckon.
Interviewer:  Well it's something real common. It's white it's from it's a grain.
464:  Rice?
Interviewer:  Okay. And um
464:  I tell you I'm I'm mindless, I have to study over a thing. {NS} {NW}
Interviewer:  Say um if dinner was on the table and the family was standing around the table you'd tell them
464:  Dinner was ready.
Interviewer:  Or and you'd tell 'em go ahead and
464:  Ask blessing and eat.
Interviewer:  Or they're standing up you'd tell them to
464:  To have a seat. Sit down.
Interviewer:  Okay. So you'd say so then he went ahead and what down?
464:  Sit down and say the blessing.
Interviewer:  Okay. And you'd say nobody {C: knock on the door} else was standing
464:  Come on in! {NS}
Aux:  {X} {NS} Well they still talk to me about my dress but
464:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
464:  I'll {NW} get you a seat.
Aux:  You still here?!
464:  Don't ask for no meat.
Aux:  {X} meat no nothing else.
464:  {NW}
Aux:  #1 All I want's #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Aux:  a job now.
464:  Maybe she'll give you a job.
Aux:  {D: That ain't like what} I want some money out of it now
464:  #1 {NW} #
Aux:  #2 {D: Not here for free y'all} #
464:  {NW}
Aux:  Can you get me a job?
Interviewer:  I don't know where.
Aux:  {X}
Aux #2:  Where'd you get your's from?
Interviewer:  {NW}
464:  You got your's from upstates. {C: multiple speakers}
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
464:  #2 didn't you? #
Aux:  #1 {X} #
464:  #2 You got your's from upstates didn't you? #
Aux:  {X}
Aux #2:  {X}
464:  {NW}
Aux #2:  #1 {X} #
464:  #2 {X} #
Aux #2:  jobs now.
Aux:  You can't get
464:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {D: You ain't gone home yet?} # {X}
Aux #2:  I think you ought {X}
Aux:  {X}
Interviewer:  Huh?
464:  Say what?
Aux:  #1 {X} #
Aux #2:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
Aux:  They tell say one thing and every time you ask you sa- you say I'm from {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
464:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  {NW}
Aux:  I think you hang up on the wall.
464:  {X}
Aux #2:  I'm from out of Campton ain't nothing, no jobs.
464:  {NW}
Aux:  Take that if you want to and I sure do need one.
464:  I tell her a while ago that she asking them {C: laughing} old back ways I can answer them but I ain't nothing with #1 this new #
Aux:  #2 {X} # You don't get that back that ain't getting you no money at all. You don't go from that back stuff.
464:  {NW}
Aux:  That's old-fashioned
Aux #2:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
Aux #2:  stuff.
464:  Where's Emmitt? Oh.
Aux:  Yeah she better not come out there cause I ain't got time for that, I gotta clean up. Unless she wanna help, do you wanna clean up?
Interviewer:  {NW}
464:  Tell 'em no
Aux #2:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
464:  Tell her that ain't your job. {NW}
Aux:  #1 It ain't mine neither but I do it. #
464:  #2 {NW} # {D: It's your home.}