464: {X} week full of {D: ashes} out of my job working. Interviewer: {X} 464: They don't talk nothing but fool all the time. Interviewer: How do you mean? 464: {NW} They {NW} that's all junk crazy talk. I went up to the {C: traffic} went up to the {NS} {D: Narry Neal} up yonder. Week before last and got 'em a job of working. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And my daughter's leg have been broke about two year ago I reckon. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And she hops on it all the time. Now I told 'em told 'em I said now y'all can't stand that job. Nothing to doing but to go up there and work so they worked up there a week and two days I think and they quit. I said uh-huh, I told y'all you {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: And that's all they talk about now, somebody getting them a job I say well excuse me I say shit they must've get you one you couldn't hold it {NW} Interviewer: Seems like there ought to be something 464: Say what? Interviewer: Seems like they ought to find some kind of job. 464: Well uh Fanny got a job you know two-day job. And that other girl Interviewer: #1 which one? # 464: #2 that bright # girl what was here she had her a job down at uh let's see, I can't think of the people's name. She had her a job down there and they help her get that car she got. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And she quit that. And all the time talking about she want a job, she ain't gonna work if she get a job. She sure ain't. That's all she talk about a job, somebody get her a job, get her a job. She get one she ain't gonna stay to it. I don't see no need in nobody trying to get her {D: nail} Interviewer: Well what does she do now? During the day? 464: Nothing. What you see her doing now, riding when her car ain't broke down {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: {NW} {NS} {NS} Come on! {NW} And they talk so much and it's all over crazy talk. I ain't talking about Emmie's daughter no more than I is mine. Mine is about as crazy as Emmie's is, just talk old crazy talk all the time. I went up there this morning and they come up there, she come up there. They got talking their old crazy talk, I just got up and walked on back to the house. {NW} Ooh lordy. I'm too old to be involved with that. Interviewer: {NW} 464: I thought I glimpsed somebody. You see anybody out there? Interviewer: No. Is this the car that's going past there? 464: I reckon it was my eyes cu- {NW} you know I broke the frame in my glasses. And I'm trying to get up enough money to go back and get 'em fixed. My eyes worries me so bad. Feel like there's something in 'em all the time. Interviewer: {NW} 464: {NW} I say I'm gonna get these quilts so when I'm going make 'em pay me for 'em before they carry 'em off cause if I don't now last week before last I let my granddaughter have two quilts. She was going to pay me seven dollars a piece for 'em. Be back grandma tomorrow and pay you, that was last Sunday was a week ago she's coming back to pay me. I ain't seed her no more, yeah she did come Saturday night and told me about her brother. He got shot down there in Panama or somewhere. Interviewer: {NW} 464: And they went to see him and she come and told me about how he was doing. {NW} I ain't seen no mention of quilts now I didn't, but I'm going to see her one day this week. Tell her I need my money cause I need my glasses fixed. {D: And she's} She got her check Thursday, she ought to come on and paid me. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Say if um there was some food on the table, maybe some potatoes and you wanted someone not to just wait until they were passed over to 'em you'd tell the person just go ahead and 464: Say which you now? Go over it again. Interviewer: Well say if if y'all were sitting around at a table and maybe there was some potatoes on the table or something 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: and you wanted to tell me not to just wait until they're passed over to me 464: Uh- Interviewer: you tell me just go ahead and 464: And pass 'em. Interviewer: But just go ahead 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 and # 464: and get you a potato. Interviewer: Okay. 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Um would you ever say go ahead and and help 464: Help yourself. Interviewer: Huh? 464: Help yourself. Interviewer: Okay. And um say if um if you decide not to eat something you'd say well no thank you I don't 464: Care for nothing. Interviewer: Okay. {NW} And um what do you call carrots and peas and beets and so on? 464: {NW} Call it boiled food? Interviewer: Well you'd call those things that you grow you'd call those 464: {NW} {D: let's see} Vegetable. Interviewer: Okay. 464: I tell you, these here two girls, they worried me so bad what little mind I is got I can't think about it. Interviewer: {NW} Uh-huh. {NW} 464: Now that's like you see in there, they liable to come back here two or three times a day talking that same old crazy talk. I call it crazy. They may call it sensible but I don't. Interviewer: They come here and normally just that much? 464: Mm-hmm. It worries me. Interviewer: I bet they come here more than that to see see if I'm still here and 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 what I'm doing. # 464: {NW} Interviewer: I got the feeling that younger one didn't 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 care too much for me. # 464: Say which? Interviewer: I got the feeling one of them didn't care too much for me. 464: Mm that one sitting over there? Interviewer: Yeah. 464: Mm-hmm She don't care too much for nobody. Interviewer: {NW} 464: It's just she worries me though and and my daughter that other one what would come over here {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: she got where she just about as {D: worration} as that one is that's sitting over there. Lord I said I don't know. Interviewer: Well maybe they'll both find them a good job and 464: Well they won't keep it if they get Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 'em. # 464: Now Fanny my daughter I say that for her, I ain't saying that cause she's mine but she get a good job she'll hold it. But you know that mill up there, that was too hard on them. Interviewer: Yeah. 464: And Fanny's leg was broke, now you oughta've seed it. All since she quit there that thing's been as swole like that ever since she quit working up Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 there. # 464: But Eva-May she just ain't gonna work nowhere long at the time. Ain't gonna do nothing but ride and talk. Interviewer: {NW} she'll have to work to pay for the gas in her car. 464: Well see how she get's her gas in her car my brother's sick. He's under the doctor. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And he draws a check and uh he pays her to carry him backward and forth to Cretchview Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 He'll # pay her and when he car- that's carry him to the store or something. Why he'll get her gas and so my daughter's husband get him to carry her somewhere he'll pay her gas. That's the way she keeps her gas in her car. Interviewer: {NW} 464: {NW} {NS} Now go ahead and go to asking questions again, if I can answer them I'll answer Interviewer: #1 O- # 464: #2 them. # Interviewer: -kay. 464: But them gals gets on my nerves. Interviewer: Yeah. Well they'll be back in a little while I'm sure. 464: Yeah they'll be back directly. Interviewer: What would you call a place near your house where you grow vegetables? 464: A field? Garden? Interviewer: Okay. And um do you ever hear of people making whiskey themselves? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah I sure have. Cause I have helped make it. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 How do you make it? # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} well {NW} {D: there's what else} to tell the truth, the Lord know. So it ain't no use to try to hide it. {D: when um} my husband was living he make made it. And uh I would help him. But he'd put some syrup and let's see what else, I think he put a little meal in the stuff. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And uh syrup and meal and corn I think Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: in the barrel. And pour water in it and let it sour and then he put it in a pot and had a long old rod run from that and it had a something up on s- s- something up on top of that pot that that rod run in it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And he'd have that old rod in there and hi- {X} it'd make it run out of that rod back in a bucket out here. Yeah lord I have helped do that too. Interviewer: What do 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 they call that? # 464: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 464: Rum. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Called it a rum still. {NW} {NW} Sure did, that's been years ago but I sure helped him make it. Interviewer: There any other names for whiskey like that? 464: {NW} Interviewer: maybe if it's if it's real bad stuff you know real cheap? 464: {NW} Let's see no. Ca- call it low wine I think. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I think that's what they called it. Interviewer: Would you ever hear the 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 word # Interviewer: huh? 464: I didn't say nothing. Interviewer: Oh. Did you ever hear the word splo? 464: #1 Uh # Interviewer: #2 Called it # splo? 464: Yeah I hearing it but I don't know what that is. Interviewer: Who did you hear it from? 464: I heared a heap of people talk about splo but I ain't never found out what it was. Interviewer: Is is that a a new word? I mean something that young people talk about? 464: {NW} {NW} Uh-huh. I think it is. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And I've heared stuff about, what they call that now? What is all stuff what they folks drink night makes 'em crazy? {NW} Interviewer: That they drink? Or 464: {NW} Yeah they drinks it I think or sniff it or something. Interviewer: Well there's some stuff you smoke. 464: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 Marijuana # 464: #2 Smoke # yeah yeah. Uh-huh, I've heared tell of that too. But I don't know nothing about it, I've just heared 'em talking about it some of 'em smoking it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about beer? Has any- 464: #1 beer? # Interviewer: #2 one # made beer at home? 464: No not as I know of. I don't know nothing about no beer made on what they buys all I know and I reckon you seed a whole lot of cans out there in that cold box but I don't drink it. But say uh they sells cans. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Get so much I think it's ain't much for this three cent a pound I think. And so one of my cousins out there sent me them Sunday night. I said I was gonna sell me some, I got to make me some money somehow. He said I reckon it's no harm to sell the cans what the other people done drinked it. {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # So she picked up some sent 'em to me Sunday night. Yeah yeah I got, told Fann and them this morning, I got to mash 'em up. {NW} Get my boy to carry 'em down there and sell 'em for me cause I got to get my glasses fixed somehow or another. Interviewer: {NW} 464: #1 Don't wanna # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 464: beat nobody to get 'em fixed. I sure'd love to get 'em carried off. Interviewer: Where do you have to go? Down to Crestview? 464: Crestview, mm-hmm. My eyes feels like they trash in 'em, keep me digging in 'em all the time. {NS} {NW} Interviewer: You just need some more glasses or what? 464: Mm see they uh they uh rim I dropped 'em. And that thing I reckon I call it rim, what go behind your ear? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: It broke off right at the end of the {D: derlin} and I got to have it fixed back on that. Interviewer: Huh. Um what does it say like um on a belt you know? This on a belt that's made out of cowhide? 464: Say which? Interviewer: You know on a um say a a belt that you wear, that like this it's 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 made # outta cowhide. 464: Called Interviewer: #1 what is # 464: #2 it # Interviewer: it say on there to let you know that it's it's made outta real cowhide? 464: I don't know. I call 'em leather belts, I don't know. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I Interviewer: #1 call # 464: #2 what # {NW} Interviewer: #1 it says it # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: it isn't imitation it's it gen- 464: Cowhide? Interviewer: Uh-huh. It's it's not imitation it's gen- 464: {NW} Interviewer: Did you ever hear genuine or genuine? 464: Uh- huh. I sure couldn't tell you now. Ain't no use in me trying to tell you something I don't know nothing #1 about. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Um # 464: All that I know about I'll tell you and that I don't know I just ain't gonna try to tell it Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 cause I don't know it. # Interviewer: Do you remember um when they'd they sell sugar by they'd they'd weigh it out of the barrel? 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 They'd say # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: that sugar was sold how? 464: By the pound. Interviewer: Okay. Or do you hear another expression for that? Sugar was sold in 464: In bags. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about in bulk or bulk? 464: Bulk I can't remember that neither. {NW} {C: traffic} Sure can't, I can't remember that. There's lots of things like I tell these children, my children {NW} me and F-P and L-J be sitting hear them no wonder boys that come here last night They thought I say I say I'm forgetful. I say but the two things I don't never forget I say if you treat me good I don't forget it and if you mistreat me I don't forget it. I said but there are lots of things I know I forgets about 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And some I can think of maybe somebody bring it to my mind. {NW} Interviewer: What do you call the thing that um maybe made out of um apples or peaches or something like that that that you can spread on toast or biscuits in the morning? 464: Tarts? Interviewer: What did well you I'm sure you used to make it. 464: Uh Interviewer: It could be jam or 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah jam, make jam out {NW} Sure. Interviewer: And what else? 464: {NW} I have made apple tarts that way. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: You know spread me the apples on it and piece of bread on there and {D: sapple up the end} lay it in the stove and let it get sort of warm and eat it Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: {NW} Interviewer: What about something that you'd what sort of things did you can? 464: Can. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Peaches. Apples. Pears. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And Interviewer: Well what what about a sweet spread that you could make? 464: Jelly Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 Did you used to make # that much? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah I made some this year. Interviewer: Oh really? 464: Sure have. {NS} And uh I made some jelly and I put up some pea- no I didn't put up no pears cause I didn't get none. Some peaches a few peaches. And made some jam. And put up some fried okra. Fried my okra and packed it up in jars. Interviewer: I didn't know you could put it up fried. 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah you can put it up fried. But it takes a lots of grease to put up fried {NW} okra, I'm telling you. {NW} But see I had more in my deep freezer when I was on keep on putting more in there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: So I just when I got me some okra I just fried it and packed it up in jars. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And it keeps alright? 464: Uh-huh. Yeah here it keeps, I'll show it to you. {NS} {NW} if I can get up. Interviewer: {X} 464: brought up {D: against} some grandchildren down there Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And uh what do you have on the table to season your food with? 464: {NW} salt and black pepper and Interviewer: Okay. 464: Ketchup. Interviewer: #1 And # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: huh? 464: Cu- salt and black pepper and ketchup and let's let's see now what else. Something else but I done forgot it now {NS} {NW} Interviewer: Say um if there was a bowl of apples sitting on the table and a child wanted one he'd tell you 464: {X} I wants one of them apples. Interviewer: Or he'd say give me 464: Give me one of them apples. {NW} Interviewer: And um say if if you don't have any money at all you say you're not rich, you're 464: Poor. Interviewer: And um say if you have a lot of peach trees say you have a peach 464: Orchard. Interviewer: And um the inside part of a cherry you know the part that you don't eat 464: The seeds? Interviewer: Okay. What about in a peach? 464: The seeds. Interviewer: And what do you call that part inside the peach? 464: Inside the peach? {NW} I'd call it uh {X} can't think. I'd say the meat of the peach, I don't know what {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: {NW} Interviewer: What do you call that kind of peach that you have to cut the seed out of? 464: {X} a press? Interviewer: Okay. What about the other kind of peach? 464: Uh {NW} I know but I just can't call it now. {NS} {X} {D: clair seed?} Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um the part of the apple that you don't eat. 464: The kernel. Interviewer: {NW} And um when you'd cut up apples and dry them you say you're making 464: Dried apples? Interviewer: Okay. But wha- what do you call that part that you throw away? {X} 464: Peeling. Interviewer: Or after you've eaten it. 464: Oh the kernel? Interviewer: Okay. And what kinds of nuts do you have around here? 464: Pecans and {NS} hazelnuts and hickory nuts. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Well they call 'em walnuts but I said hickory nuts {NW} Interviewer: Do you think um is that the same thing? 464: Let's see. Is it the same thing now? Walnuts and hickory nuts? Uh-uh. No it sure ain't. There're walnut and then there are hickory nut. Interviewer: Uh-huh. You know on the walnut it's got a a soft covering you know when it first falls off the tree? 464: Mm-hmm. I call that the hull on there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Then when you take that off you've still got a hard cover 464: Uh sure do, you have to crack that one. Interviewer: What do you call that? 464: I what do I call that inside? Interviewer: Well that yeah that hard 464: I call it a hickory nut hull. Interviewer: Okay. And um what about the kind of nuts that grow in the ground? 464: Peanuts. Interviewer: Any other name for that? 464: Pindars. Interviewer: Now is that the same thing? 464: No it ain't same thing cause a peanut it's a little old short something, it's just got two peanuts in 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And a pindar some of 'em got two and three in 'em. Call them pindars we do here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And them little old bitty ones we call 'em peanuts. Interviewer: Uh-huh. A pindar is the 464: #1 It's a long one # Interviewer: #2 it's the long one? # 464: uh-huh and the peanut's a little old two-hulled two Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: thing in 'em. They little old bitty things. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about um something that's about the size of an apple and it it grows in Florida a lot? 464: Mm let's see. {D: that's uh} Interviewer: It's you now about this this big or so? 464: That's a uh I can't call the name of it now. Uh Pomegranate? Interviewer: Well I'm #1 thinking # 464: #2 No? # Interviewer: of something more common that 464: Oh. Let's see now. {NS} A is it a quince? Interviewer: Or just something um well what you know in in Christmas um what do people what Santa Claus {D: must've} put in 464: #1 Oh uh # Interviewer: #2 stockings? # What kinda fruit? 464: Oranges and uh Interviewer: Okay. 464: and uh let's see have to be studying on the other one now. Interviewer: Well oranges was what I was thinking of. 464: Uh-huh. Yeah. {C: door creaks} Oranges. Uh-huh. Interviewer: Say if you had a bowl of oranges or one day you went in to get one and there weren't any left you'd oranges are 464: Gone. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um what sort of things did you grow in a garden? 464: Well collards, cabbages, turnips, Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 and # rutabagas. Interviewer: What do you call all those things? 464: Say which? Interviewer: What do you call all those things? 464: Say what do I call Interviewer: Yeah the turnips and collards. 464: Collards well the turnips has roots on 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And the collards just grows up and has leaves. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And the mustard grows up with just leaves, they don't have no roots. And rutabagas has roots on 'em. Interviewer: What do you call those leaves when you cook 'em? 464: I just call 'em rutabaga leaves or collard leaves or whatever Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {X} # {NW} Interviewer: You say you cook the turnips and make a mess of 464: Huh? Interviewer: You cook the turnips and make a mess of 464: Uh turnips. Mm-hmm. Just make a mess of turnips all I know. Interviewer: Okay. Would you ever call that salad? 464: Uh-huh. Yeah, I called it salad sometimes, sometimes I say turnips. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 And greens? # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: Uh- Interviewer: #1 You # 464: #2 huh. # Interviewer: mentioned that earlier. 464: Yeah collard collard salad and turnip salad and mustard salad and rutabaga salad. Interviewer: What about poke? 464: Poke. Poke salad? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Mm-hmm. I cooks that sometime when I can find it, I don't find none now though. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 They # cook I can go get that and boil it in uh wash it off after I boil it and then I get me some young turnips or something and mix it with 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And I call that salad, poke salad. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What else do you grow in a garden? 464: Well onions. Sweet peas. English peas and Interviewer: Talking about the onions what do you call those little young fresh ones that you'd pull up and eat? {NS} 464: {D: I don't} {NS} Fool gone I reckon, he ai- woke up and gone. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Huh? # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} I said he gone I reckon. Uh some little here how, I don't know what they call them now. Sure don't. {NW} Lord have mercy. Interviewer: Uh do you know what I mean? 464: Uh-uh. Interviewer: You know you take these onions and well you get 'em early in the spring you know before they get before they get real big 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 and # 464: Little old bitty things like that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh-huh. Well {NW} {NW} we always gets them and set 'em out and then they'll make big old roots. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: When they get rooted then {D: time to} take 'em up or the {D: stalks'll} go to dying, you dig the roots up Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: and save them. Mm-hmm. And I have went out and cropped mine when they'd be growing up crop 'em off and fry 'em with eggs, mix 'em up with eggs {NW} {NW} Interviewer: What about a little red thing that grows down in the ground? 464: Radish? Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 And what about # something that's red, it grows up on a you stake it up. Grows on a bush. 464: {NW} wa- tomatoes? Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 What do you call # those little ones? 464: {NW} Uh them little red things Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 growing up? # Interviewer: Well 464: #1 I # Interviewer: #2 this # 464: call 'em wait a minute, let me see now. {X} Interviewer: It's tomatoes you know. 464: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Those little ones # 464: But I I was trying to think of what I'd call them little things. I done forgot now what I call them. But I remember what you talking about, the little bitty old uh tomatoes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: But I don't know Interviewer: #1 Did you ever hear # 464: #2 I done forgot # Interviewer: cherry tomatoes or salad tomatoes or tommy toes? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah sure have. Interviewer: What is it? 464: {X} Uh-huh, they're they them little tommy toes they grows in there #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 464: {NW} Sure. Interviewer: Did you ever hear that called outhouse tomatoes? 464: No I ain't heared 'em call 'em that as I know of. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And something that grows down in the ground you'd po- people say along with your meat you might have a baked 464: Sweet potato? Interviewer: Okay. What kinds of sweet potatoes are there? 464: There are well I'm gonna tell you, that's what I got used to hear it called them dark kind they call 'em nig killers. {NW} Interviewer: #1 They call 'em what? # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} they {NW} they had some dark kind of potatoes you know the peelings'd be old red dark Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: peelings. They call them nig killers, that's what they used to call 'em. Sure did. And then they had some yam potatoes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And let me see what else had some yams and nig killers they call 'em and Interviewer: Yam was a d- a special kind of sweet potato? 464: Uh-huh. Yeah. Sweet potatoes and uh uh let's see there was another name or s- s- sweet potatoes but I just can't think of but them two, them we call the yams and the nig killers. Them what they call the nig killers they had dark skin you know peeling on 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: But I ain't seed none of them in a long time. They got some yams and s- some other name but I can't think of it now. Interviewer: What other kinds of potatoes besides sweet potatoes? 464: Well I don't know no other kind but Irish potatoes. Interviewer: Okay. And um something that um well what different kinds of beans did you have? 464: Well we had English beans? Interviewer: Yeah. 464: Uh we had snap beans and let's see Yankee beans. Pole beans. And uh English peas. {C: traffic} And uh butter beans. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What's a butter beans look like? 464: They're little old flat things. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: They'd be about sometimes they'd have about three beans in 'em, sometime they don't have but two in 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Let me see {NS} think I got, I got one planted out here on the porch I think. {NW} Interviewer: Well you're don't you don't 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 have to get up. # 464: #1 I'll show it # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 464: to you so you know'll what I'm talking about. You wash and scrub 'em. Make up beds then and summer clothes for Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 for nothing. # 464: Then when the welfare went to paying her for somebody to go up there and help she went getting Rachel to help her. And she'd pay Rachel, well Rachel had to go to {D: hospital} and then she got my daughter-in-law over there to pay it to help. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And her so after Rachel come back she quit getting {X} and went to getting Rachel again. And I went up there one day, Jimmy was here, her step-son was here, I said Jimmy I say if you will uh ain't got nothing to do this evening would you run me up to Ms Course to see her? He say yessum grandma, I can carry you up there. So he carried me on up there and I went up there and we was sitting in the front, she was sitting in the front room. Her and Mr George {B} And Mr George was fixing to leave so she got up and went in her bedroom she say come here a minute Mr George so he went there and she gave him some money to get her something, I don't know what. She stayed in there and stayed in there, she didn't never come back in the house. I sat there and sat there {D: directly} I say Mr George told me when he went to leave he say Ms Sayer anytime you want to come up here and see Ms Coral if I ain't busy I'll bring you. I said okay. So her stepson had went down to his house. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: She say uh she's sitting there and sitting there {D: I saw they} {X} I said Ms Coral I says you laying down? No I ain't laying down, I'm sitting down. So I got up and went on down there, I told Jimmy I said Jimmy, I'm ready to go home. I ain't been back there since. Interviewer: She wouldn't see you? 464: Uh-uh. No she ain't as good as I'd been to her all of 'em can tell you that I'd I'd walk up there to her house and and scrub and clean off her stove and wash up all of her dishes and clean out her {D: say} for not nothing. And then when welfare went to giving them money to pay somebody to do her work up there she quit getting me and went to getting a woman off out here. Then when she went to the hospital, she had to go with her eyes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And then she went to getting my daughter-in-law to go up there. And then she got sh- when Rachel come back from the hospital she went to getting Rachel again. {NW} and uh so the other day she passed by here and I was sitting out there, I can't see too good and I was trying to look to see who it was. She got right out here and I was looking out that way. {NS} Turned the head and went looking away the other way. Interviewer: {NW} 464: I said old hellfire I said much as I've done for her now she won't even throw up a hand at me when she pass. Interviewer: {NW} 464: But I'd love for you to see her but I wouldn't carry you up there cause she might {D: end searching} me too. Interviewer: {NW} Sounds like {X} funny. 464: She sure is funny. {D: Funnier to us and} night, I told Fan and them yesterday evening last night, no this morning I say uh Fan said something about why don't you carry her up there and let her talk with Ms Coral, I said uh-uh. I say I'm scared she'll insult me and the girl too if I keep {D: her over there} {NW} and you hear what that girl said about if you going out to her house Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 didn't you? # 464: I don't believe in nothing like that. But I bet you her momma would be glad to talk with you. Interviewer: {NW} 464: I bet you she would. Interviewer: Yeah. 464: Cause she like myself, she love to talk about old stuff too but these young folks, they don't think about not not all of 'em now cause you do but I'm talking about them two don't. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: They believes in this fast time, now I love to get {D: the person} ask questions and talk about old things, it's back and I know her momma would too but I heared what she said, I was gonna tell you let's go out there but after I hear it what evening they said I said I better not go out there cause Eva May might insult both of us. Interviewer: {NW} 464: {NW} {NW} {D: ain't that the way} say if momma and grandma always teached us to teach treat people like we want to be treated, nobody nobody wanna be treated. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And so I try to treat folks that way to the best of my knowledge. But Eva May don't care who's feelings she hurt. Interviewer: #1 Well # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: if you're talking about the the butter beans um when you wanna get the beans outta the pod you s- you say you want to 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What do you 464: #1 See # Interviewer: #2 have # 464: you pick 'em off of them bushes like I showed you. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And then you take 'em and bust them hulls open Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 and # beans is in them hulls. Interviewer: You say you're you're hulling the beans then? Or 464: Uh-huh Interviewer: #1 {D: shelling them?} # 464: #2 yeah. # Yeah you shelling them. After you pick 'em off of them vines Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Then you shell 'em. Bust 'em open and shell 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And what what do you call the the kind of corn that's tender enough to eat off the cob? 464: Sweet corn? Interviewer: Okay. How do you cook that? 464: Well you can fry it or you can just put it in a pot and boil it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Or you can shave it off of them cobs. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And put it in a fryer and put you some butter in there and and let it steam and cook that way. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do you ever call that roast 464: Say which? Interviewer: Did you ever call that anything besides sweet corn? 464: No I ain't never called it nothing besides sweet corn but they have some of this other kind, this old field corn I call it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I you can cut it off the cobs when it's tender but you have to get it while it's good and tender. Interviewer: Did you ever call that roast 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What's that? 464: Roast corn. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you ever hear roasting ears? 464: Oh yeah, uh-huh yeah we call it roasting ears. Interviewer: What what does that mean? 464: Well you gets the corn you shave it off cut it off pick the silks out from it Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 And then # cut it off like that with a knife and scrape it like that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And you can bag it up or you can put it in a fryer with some butter and steam it down and cook it that way. I likes it that way too. Interviewer: What do you call the the covering on the corn? 464: Shucks. Interviewer: And what about the thing that grows over the top of the cornstalk? 464: The tassels. Interviewer: Okay. And um this is something that's it's a little yellow crooked-necked vegetable. 464: Squashes? Interviewer: Okay. Are there different kinds of squashes? 464: Uh-huh. Yeah, there're two kind, there are some {D: growsed} next to 'em then there's some that's round squashes. Some of 'em be green, some of 'em be yellow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: What do you call that round one? 464: Well I call it the round yellow squash. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about something that's big that you make pie out of it at Thanksgiving? 464: Pumpkins. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And what kind of melons do you have? 464: Watermelons. Interviewer: Are there 464: #1 and and # Interviewer: #2 different kinds # 464: pie melons. Interviewer: What's a pie melon? 464: Simpson make pies out them too. Them pie melons is. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Are they hard to to bust open? Are they 464: #1 No # Interviewer: #2 the ones # 464: they ain't so hard. You'd had to take a knife though and cut 'em open. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} Interviewer: What do they look like on the inside? 464: They are some of 'em's greens, some of 'em's kinda yellow looking. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {X} Interviewer: What different kinds of watermelons are there? 464: Well {D: there's} two kind I know of, I can think of the name, they uh now I can't think of the name of them old long ones but there's some of 'em there's uh guinea {D: Guinness} watermelons. Them little old bitty round ones. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh-huh. And some of 'em be those long ones like that. I don't know what they call them. Interviewer: What other kinds of melons are there besides watermelons? 464: Well Interviewer: Pie melons? 464: I don't know no kind I don't believe but watermelons pie melons. Interviewer: Did you ever hear mu- 464: Mullet. Interviewer: Mushmelon or 464: Oh yeah! Mushmelon yeah. {D: Made} mushmelons too. Interviewer: What's that like? 464: It's a little old {X} thing when it get's green at first but when it get ripe it turns yellow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And you can cut it open. And then the seeds all inside and then you can peel it off and I always put salt on mine when I'd go to eat it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: It'd be kinda sweet and I'd put sprinkle salt on it. Interviewer: Is there another name for that? Mushmelon? 464: No. Unless there is I I don't think they're pie melons. Interviewer: Did you ever hear #1 cantal- # 464: #2 {X} # 464: cantaloupes. Uh-huh. Yeah cantaloupes. Interviewer: #1 Now what, what's that like # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} That's a little old ro- {NW} little old round something. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 464: #2 It's # greenish-looking. But you had to cut them and peel the peeling off of them just eat 'em put salt or whatever you want on 'em and eat 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And um the little umbrella-shaped thing that springs open in the woods or fields after it's been raining. 464: Mushmelons. Interviewer: Or not a 464: #1 No not # Interviewer: #2 a melon. # Interviewer: #1 It's # 464: #2 it's a # Interviewer: little umbrella-shaped thing. 464: Uh you don't eat 'em do you? I know a little old something that grows up in the field like that made up like an umbrella but I can't think of the name of it now. Interviewer: Did you ever hear mush- 464: Mushroom? Interviewer: Uh-huh. What's 464: Mushroom. Yeah that's {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 Uh-huh. # {NW} I know'd I couldn't but I just can't think of the name of all them little things. Interviewer: Is there something else kinda like that with a different name? 464: {NW} {NW} No. Not as I know of. Interviewer: What about um toadstool or frog bench or berry caps? 464: Mm-hmm. I have heared of them things and I reckon I've seed some but I done forgot about 'em. Interviewer: What what's that? 464: Uh Let's see s- mushrooms and I can't think of the name of them other things they call. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Say if someone had a a real bad sore throat you'd say well he couldn't eat that piece of meat because it got stuck in his throat and he couldn't 464: Swallow it. Interviewer: Okay. 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And um what do people smoke made outta tobacco? {C: traffic} 464: Say what do they smoke? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: They smokes tobacco Interviewer: #1 we- # 464: #2 uh # Interviewer: how how's the tobacco come? It's 464: S- s- made off of they makes it on the farm they tell me. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And uh pick it and then cure it and have it. Tobacco made out of it. Make twist tobacco out in it and smoking tobacco out in it and all other kinds say I don't know I ain't see'd that, I just heared that Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What do you call the long white things that you smoke? 464: Cigarettes. Interviewer: Okay and the brown things? 464: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 That men # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: smoke. 464: What Interviewer: Well 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 there's # cigarettes and 464: #1 And # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 464: pipes. Interviewer: And 464: {NW} cigars. Interviewer: Okay. And um say if someone offered to do you a favor you might say well I appreciate it but I don't want to feel 464: Say which? Interviewer: Someone offered to do you a favor they might say well I appreciate it but I don't want to be what? You don't wanna 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 feel # like you owe that person some- 464: #1 Uh-uh. # Interviewer: #2 thing you say # 464: Sure I don't wanna feel like it I owe 'em something, I don't wanna do 'em, do more for me than I can for them. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 464: #2 I # sure don't. Interviewer: You say I don't wanna feel 464: S- bad over it. Interviewer: Okay. And someone um asked you if you were able to do something you'd say sure I do it. 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Sure I # 464: Mm-hmm. I can do it. Interviewer: And if you weren't able to you'd say well I'd like to but I just 464: Ain't able. Interviewer: Right you'd say they asked you can you do that you'd say no 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 I # 464: just ain't able to do it. Interviewer: #1 Or no I ca- # 464: #2 {X} # 464: Can't do it. Interviewer: Huh? 464: I said no I can't do it I just ain't Interviewer: #1 okay. # 464: #2 able. # Interviewer: And if it's something that you could do but you didn't want to you'd say well I could do it but I just 464: Don't want to. Or I tell 'em. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 Or they s- # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: They say will you do that? And you say no I 464: Can't do it. Interviewer: Or no I w- 464: Ain't able to do it. Interviewer: Or 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 no I wo- # 464: I won't do it. Interviewer: Huh? 464: No I won't do that. Interviewer: Okay. And um say if um if a boy got a whipping you'd say well I bet he did something he 464: Had no business doing. Interviewer: Or 464: Hadn't {D: got} no right to do. Interviewer: Or saying that that wasn't what he ought to do, you'd say I bet he did something he 464: Had no business of doing. Interviewer: Okay. But what about using the word ought? You say I bet he did something he 464: Ought not to do. Interviewer: Okay. And um talking about kinds of animals some the kind of bird that can see in the dark. 464: Uh-huh. I don't know what kind can see in the dark {NW} Interviewer: #1 {X} # 464: #2 Well you know it's # 464: Bird? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Some of 'em make this kind of scary noise. 464: Mm-hmm. That them old uh uh-uh. I can't call the name of 'em but I can hear 'em some nights around here hollering. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: But I can't call the name of 'em now. Interviewer: Well the 464: #1 An old # Interviewer: #2 big ones. # 464: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Huh? 464: Old mockingbird he ought to could see any time {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: What what about the big ones that some of 'em can can um kill chickens even. 464: Hawks? Interviewer: Or they come out at night though. 464: Mm-hmm. {X} I don't know what kind them is. Interviewer: Well it 464: Sure don't. Interviewer: Something that um it makes a kinda scary noise maybe around a graveyard. 464: Yeah I don't know what that is either. Don't know the name of 'em. Interviewer: Well do you hear something called a hoot 464: Say which? Interviewer: It's something that hoots. {C: traffic} 464: Oh owl? Hooping owl? Interviewer: Huh? 464: Shivering owl? Interviewer: What's the shivering owl? 464: It's an old something, it hollers at night. Interviewer: Is it the little owl? 464: Uh-uh. No they pretty good size the owls. Interviewer: What different kinds of owls are there? 464: Well there an old hooping owl and then there an old shivering owl. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh-huh. But I don't know which one of 'em's the biggest now, that old hooping owl or the shivering owl. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: But I do hate to hear them shivering owls holler at night. Interviewer: Why is that? 464: I hates to hear them shivering owls holler at night. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Why? # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {D: Just} # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: Well some of 'em say it's just the idea you got but I know I I've hearing the older folks say whenever them things be hollering around your house at night you gonna lose one out of the family. Interviewer: Oh really? 464: And I know whenever I lived up there on the hill {D: what} the other night there was old old shivering owl would get out in that oak tree and holler. And it weren't I {D: mentioned to 'em} some of 'em say oh that ain't no sign, that's just old word. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Here and it weren't long before my one of my cousin's daughters died. And then another thing I hate to hear howling at night is a dog. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: They say that ain't no sign but I believe in it. They say if you believe in it they'll follow you but I know before my brother died old dog would get right out there between my house and L-J's over here every night and he'd just howl, howl. I say now if I had me a gun I'd go out there and shoot that dog. {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} some of 'em say oh that ain't no sign but it weren't long before my brother died. Interviewer: {NW} 464: Now I don't love to hear a dog {X} he died like this year and the next year my other brother passed. Old dog would howl around here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} It might not be no sign but some of 'em say if you believe in it, it'll follow you and so {NW} I believes in it I reckon and it follows me. Interviewer: {NW} What do you call um the kind of bird that drills holes in trees? 464: Woodpecker. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Any other name for him? # 464: Mm not as I know of. That's all I ever heared is a woodpecker. Interviewer: What do you call the um the big one? 464: {D: Pecker.} This little quill? Interviewer: Well the #1 it's a # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: woodpecker only big. 464: #1 S- # Interviewer: #2 About the # 464: say which? Interviewer: It's a it's a big woodpecker about the size of a chicken. 464: Uh-huh. {D: Well} I don't know no other name. Interviewer: Well have you ever heard um that called a Lord God? 464: Uh-u- yeah I've heared folks talk about 'em but I ain't seed 'em, if I did I didn't know it. {NW} Interviewer: What what did you hear it called? 464: {NW} Lord God let me see now I did hear that too but I done forgot that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I done forgot what they said it was. Interviewer: Have you ever heard it called peckerwood? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah I sure have. Heared 'em call 'em peckerwoods but I had forgot Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 Have you ever # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: heard people called peckerwoods? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah I've heared 'em called peckerwoods. Interviewer: Have you ever heard a a someone called a person a peckerwood? 464: No I ain't heared that I don't believe. Uh-uh. No I ain't heared it. Interviewer: And what about a kind of black-and-white animal? It's got a real strong smell. 464: White-and-black animal? {NW} {NW} Let me see. I have heared it but I done forgot what {NW} what it is. Interviewer: Oh you know it it's a it's a black-and-white animal, it's got a real strong smell. 464: {NW} {X} a polecat? Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} {NW} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 And # um say if um talking about the animals that could come and kill your chickens is there any one name that you could use to mean all of those kind of animals? 464: Mm-hmm. Well possums'll come and kill 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And uh foxes'll come and kill 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I know them two will. But I don't know none the rest of 'em. Interviewer: Well what would you call animals like that? 464: {NW} I don't know. Do you ever call 'em var- Varmints? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh-huh, I call 'em varmints. Interviewer: What what do you mean by varmint? 464: I don't know I just give 'em that name, that was all. {NW} Didn't know why I called 'em varmints. I appreciate that. Catch up directly maybe. {NW} Interviewer: And uh {NS} a bushy-tailed animal that um climbs trees 464: Coons and possums. Interviewer: Or something smaller. 464: Squirrels. Interviewer: Okay. What kinds of squirrels are there? 464: Cat squirrels and fox squirrels. Interviewer: What's the difference? 464: Well some of 'em's larger than others. Interviewer: Wait which is 464: #1 The the # Interviewer: #2 larger? # 464: fox squirrel's larger than the cat squirrel. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about something that looks kinda like a squirrel only it can't climb trees? 464: Uh no they can climb a tree. I started to say a rat but a rat can climb a tree {NW} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {D: Oh let's see.} Interviewer: Did you ever heared of chipmunk or ground squirrel? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah I've heared tell of them. Interviewer: What's that? 464: Gr- ground squirrel if he's on the ground. Interviewer: What does he #1 look like? # 464: #2 {X} # 464: Well he looks like a squirrel but he ain't as large as a squirrel. Them I see'd one. Interviewer: Well what sort of fish do you get around here? 464: Well you gets mullan. Interviewer: Is that from the saltwater? Or 464: Mm-hmm. Mullen fish and uh {NW} catfish and let's see red snapper. {C: traffic} There's another kind that get out there, an old an eel, to get them out of the water too. Fish eels. Interviewer: What else do they get out of the Gulf besides um fish? 464: Well they gets uh turtles I reckon. Yeah. Loggerheads and soft-shelled turtles. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: What do you call the kind of turtle that can gets on land? 464: {D: Uh-huh.} I call them gophers. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 Those are the big # Interviewer: ones aren't they? 464: {NW} Uh-huh. Well sometime you find a a loggerhead out on the land but he be just coming out from the water and be crossing I reckon there people run up on him. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: But gophers they stays on land all the time. {D: Have them holes on} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Go down there. Interviewer: What about um the small thing that gets on land? 464: Turtles? Interviewer: Yeah but the small kinda turtle. 464: Cooters? Interviewer: Okay well what's a 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 cooter then? # 464: {NW} I don't know. {NW} A little old cooter all I know. {NW} I call 'em horseshoes, I don't know what they is. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 464: #2 Them old # little bitty ones I call 'em horseshoe cooters. Interviewer: It's a little turtle that's on land? 464: Mm-hmm. {NW} Interviewer: Um what about um well s- something that they get from the Gulf though that comes in shells. 464: {NW} I know but I can't think of the name of that. Uh you eats it don't you? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: #1 I know it # Interviewer: #2 What's that with # a pearl in it sometimes? 464: I know but I just can't call the name of it now. Uh can't call the name of them things. But I know what you're talking about I reckon. {X} Interviewer: {D: Say if something} oys- 464: Huh? Interviewer: Oys- 464: Oysters. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {X} # 464: {NW} Interviewer: And what about something else that they get they take a net and drag a net out there? And it gets these, they're they're sort of whitish-pink. 464: {D: Let's see} Interviewer: And you boil 'em. 464: {D: see} {NS} Shrimp {C: buzzing} Interviewer: Okay. Say if you wanted some of those you might ask for two or three pounds of 464: Shrimp. Interviewer: And um this is something that um well say in a um in a stream or creek you might pick up a rock and find this under it, it's got a hard shell and claws on it? 464: {NW} Interviewer: Turtle? 464: Well someth- no it's Interviewer: #1 got claws # 464: #2 no it's # claws on it? Interviewer: You might find it on under a rock. And if you touch it it'd swim away backwards. 464: I don't know what that'd be. Sure don't. Interviewer: Did you ever hear craw- or 464: Crawfish? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Uh-huh. Yeah I remember now. Interviewer: And what might you hear making a 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 noise # around a 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 pond at # night? 464: {NW} Say what do you hear? Interviewer: Yeah. 464: Making noise? Frogs? Interviewer: Okay what do you call those big ones? 464: Bullfrogs I call 'em {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. And those little ones? # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Uh them little ones, let me I don't know what they call them. But I call them old big ones bullfrogs. Interviewer: Uh-huh. But what about the little ones that get up in the um trees and they're supposed to come out after a storm. 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: After it's been raining. 464: Mm I call 'em water frogs. Interviewer: Okay. Are those those little green ones that 464: Uh-huh. Yeah. Interviewer: What about the kind that um hops around and on land? 464: Well them tho- yard frogs I call 'em, I don't know the old dark-looking ones. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I call 'em yard frogs. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # I call 'em toadfrogs, that's what I call 'em but mostly be in the yard hopping around. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: What about um say if you were gonna go fishing what might you dig up to go fishing with? 464: Say what did I dig up? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Earthworms and grubbers. Interviewer: Okay. What about little fish that you might use for bait? 464: Uh uh roaches. Interviewer: Or little fish though. 464: {X} little fish? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I called 'em ro- them little long ones like that? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I call 'em roaches, I don't know what they is Interviewer: It's it's a little fish that you get? 464: Uh-huh {X} you can catch some of them little old brims too sometime. Interviewer: Huh. 464: And fish with 'em. Interviewer: Um this is a a kind of insect that flies around a light and tries to fly into the light. 464: Candle fly? Candle- Interviewer: Okay. 464: flies. Mm-hmm. Or candle bugs or something, I Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 don't know. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: They bad about dipping around if you leave the door open here at night. Interviewer: Yeah. 464: Dipping around the lights. {NW} Interviewer: What about something that uh gets in your wool clothes and eats holes in 'em? 464: Uh uh I know but I can't call them names now. {X} Know what that is but I just can't call the name of 'em. But I know one thing that'll eat clothes now and that's them old big I call 'em wood roaches. They'll sure eat your clothes cause they have eat some of mine. {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: {NW} And I know the name of them other things that'll eat your clothes but I can't think of it. Interviewer: Well what do you put out to get rid of 'em? 464: Well Interviewer: Those white balls you know? 464: Mm-hmm. Uh mothballs. Interviewer: Okay well what do you call those things? 464: {NW} Interviewer: The insects? You call them mo- 464: Mo- mo- no Interviewer: Huh? 464: There's there's that old {D: moth} what is it? I can't think of 'em but I know the name of 'em but I can't think of 'em, I know you put mothballs out for 'em but I can't think of the name of those bugs. Interviewer: Well what about something that has a little light in it's tail? 464: Uh lightning bug I call 'em. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 And a # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: a little red thing that get some- on your s- 464: On your skin? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh uh red bug. Interviewer: Okay. What about something that bites you and makes you itch? 464: And what they don't stick on you? Interviewer: No something else that that bite 464: Fleas? Interviewer: Well 464: Flea? A flea? Interviewer: Something it flies around. It- 464: Oh skeeters? Interviewer: Okay. And what about something that's supposed to eat skeeters? 464: Eat skeeters. Old skeeter bugs I reckon, that's what I say {NW} Interviewer: #1 What does a skeeter bug look like? # 464: #2 {NW} # I see big old blu- bugs fly around, I say them skeeter bugs. Interviewer: What do they look like? 464: They looks like a they made up like a skeeter but they're bigger than a skeeter you know? Pretty good long things about like that. Interviewer: How many 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 wings # do they have? 464: I don't see but two. Interviewer: #1 What about something # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: that's got four wings? 464: See I don't know. Interviewer: Did you ever heared of skeeter hawk? Or 464: Oh yeah uh-huh, skeeter hawk. Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Is that the same thing as a skeeter bug? 464: That's what I call 'em, them old skeeter hawks I say that's what they is, I don't know. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Is that that the same thing skeeter hawk and skeeter bug? 464: Uh-huh. Yeah. That's what I say, I don't know. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What kinds of insects'll sting you? 464: Sting you? A a a honeybee and a yellow jacket. Interviewer: Where does a yellow jacket build a nest? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah they {X} and uh {D: wasps} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Them wasps will build 'em a little nest out of something and them old bees will build them a nest outta dirt- old dirt daubers will build them a nest out of dirt. Interviewer: Do dirt daubers sting you? 464: They say they will, there aren't none never stung me Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: Where do yellow do yellow-jackets build their nest up or do they 464: Build it up in the house, up in corners of the house, porches and things. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What about something that builds a n- big old nest? 464: Well that's a hornet ain't it? Interviewer: Okay. And um something that hops around in the grass? 464: Grasshopper. Interviewer: Did you ever hear those called hopper grass? 464: Mm-hmm. I called 'em grasshopper but I heared 'em call 'em hopper grass too. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: {NW} I called 'em backwards I reckon. {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: What about um say if you hadn't cleaned a room in a while up in the corner in the ceiling you might find a 464: Spiderwebs and spiders. Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 Dirt- # Interviewer: #2 What about # 464: dauber nests {D: you know?} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} Interviewer: What do {C: speech distortion} what about something outside maybe across a bush that a spider built? 464: Spiderwebs I call. Interviewer: Okay. And um do you know what they call the kind of tree that you tap for syrup? 464: For syrup? Interviewer: Uh-huh. The kind of tree. 464: {D: Well honey} {X} {C: speech distortion}