Interviewer: Tell me something about what different kinds of trees {NS} there are around here. {NS} 464: Well {C: tape distortion} they {C: tape distortion} pine trees and {C: tape distortion} oak trees and {C: tape distortion} dogwood trees and simmon trees. {C: tape distortion} Now let's see now what else {C: tape distortion} can I think of. {C: tape distortion} oaks and pines and simmons. And uh dogwoods and plum trees apple trees uh Interviewer: #1 What a- # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: what about a kind of tree that grows near the water? 464: {X} Interviewer: #1 It's got # 464: #2 let's s- # Interviewer: you can peel the bark off. 464: Let's see now. I done forgot what kind Interviewer: It's got little balls on it. 464: Little balls on it. Is it uh Interviewer: Do you know syc- 464: Say what? Interviewer: Syca- 464: Sycamore trees? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Mm-hmm. {NS} Yeah and a they uh let's see there another kind of tree grows close by the water too but I just can't think of the name of it. {NS} Sure can't now. Interviewer: What about um a bush that it turns bright red in the fall? 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 It's got # berries on it. 464: Uh got little red berries on it? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Let me see. I know that but I can't think of it right now. Sure is. Interviewer: Do you have 464: #1 Ms Nanc- # Interviewer: #2 a tree or # 464: Ms Nancy got one down there in her yard, that thing sure be prettier when them little berries. come on it just as red {NW} Interviewer: Do you have something uh 464: I can't think Interviewer: #1 sumac? Or # 464: #2 of the name of it # Interviewer: sumac? 464: Say which? No it's uh Interviewer: Did you have a bush called that around here? 464: #1 what? # Interviewer: #2 S- # -umac? Or sumac? 464: No I ain't hear it tell of none of them around here. But I just can't think of the name of that tree. No gov- every time I set me out one it'll die I want some, they so pretty I want me wanted me one #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 464: every time I'd set out one it would die. {NW} Interviewer: What about flowering bushes? What 464: #1 flower- # Interviewer: #2 different # Interviewer: flowering bushes do you have? 464: There are rose bushes and ch- {D: cake jestners and} morning glories and Interviewer: Do you have something called um spoon wood or mountain laurel or 464: mm-mm Interviewer: #1 rhodo- # 464: #2 no. # Interviewer: -dendron? 464: No I don't have none of them, I ain't see'd none of 'em around Interviewer: #1 Uh- # 464: #2 here. # Interviewer: huh. 464: And uh blood drippers, I got one of them out here in the yard. {D: The} blood dripper flowers. {NW} And pinks. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And uh roses and lilies and violets and let's see can I think {D: in 'em} the rest of 'em now. Interviewer: What about a a tree that's got real shiny green leaves and it's got these big white flowers? 464: {NW} That's a uh crazy can't think of it. I know what you're talking about but I can't call the name of it right now. Uh Interviewer: Did you hear mag- 464: Uh Interviewer: cucumber tree? Or 464: No Interviewer: #1 magnolia? # 464: #2 it's uh # 464: it's a big old tree it grows and I know what you're talking about but I can't call the name of it. It's got great big old white blooms on it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {X} but I can't call the name of that tree now. Interviewer: Do you have something you call {D: cowcumber? Or} cucumber 464: #1 cucumbers? # Interviewer: #2 tree? # 464: They Interviewer: #1 {D: or} # 464: #2 vines. # Cucumbers {X} vines Interviewer: #1 {X} # 464: #2 grows down on the # ground. Interviewer: What about magnolia? 464: Magnolia? Interviewer: Do you have that around here? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah they grows around the edge of these branches and things. Magnolia tree do and uh I was trying to think of that name of that tree that got them big old blooms on it. Interviewer: What does a magnolia tree look like? 464: It's a little tree looks sorta like well it has blooms on it too. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: but {NS} it's got pretty good leaves on it, green leaves on it. {NW} Interviewer: And what kind of tree did George Washington cut down? 464: {NW} I sure don't know, you ask me something I don't know Interviewer: #1 okay. # 464: #2 about # {NW} Interviewer: #1 Um # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: And um talking about berries um those red berries that you can make shortcake out of? 464: Red berries? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Well they uh there are berries around here they call the they call 'em rabbit eyes, they pretty good size berries, {D: they} {X} blue. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: So blue until they look black and then there's some uh Interviewer: Are they good to eat? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah they good. And uh they call 'em they call 'em rabbit eyes but some of 'em call 'em blueberries and then there some little s- bitty berries Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 they # call 'em may berries. Got some of them trees around here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 What about a # red berry? that you 464: Red Interviewer: buy at the store? 464: Oh that's a a I know what that is too but I can't think of it. Cause I had {NW} I just can't think of the name of 'em but I know what you're talking about. It's strawberries? Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 And # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} Interviewer: What about a a berry that um well some of 'em are red and some of 'em are black they got sort of a rough surface to 'em. 464: Rough surface to 'em? {D: Is that brawberries?} Interviewer: I was thinking of ra- 464: Rabbit eyes? Interviewer: Or ras- 464: Raspberry? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Raspberries {NW} Interviewer: Do you have those around here? 464: {X} there's some of 'em around here. {NW} {C: traffic} Interviewer: What kinds of um bushes or vines will um will make your skin break out if you touch 'em? 464: Let's see now I know that too but I can't think of it. Cause some of these children got into some of that here this year. {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} but I can't think of the name of 'em. {NW} Interviewer: Do you do you know what I mean though? It it makes your skin 464: Mm-hmm itch and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Ruffled up I call it and bump up or something Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} but I can't think of the name of 'em now. But there's some of that around here too cause I hear them children talking about they got into some of it here this year. Make it up like they have the rash or something. Interviewer: Yeah. {C: traffic} 464: But I can't think of the name of 'em. Interviewer: Say if you saw some berries and you didn't know what kind they were you might tell someone you better not eat those, they might be 464: Poison. Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Have you ever # heard of a a bush or a vine called poison 464: Ivy? Interviewer: Huh? 464: P- I have heard tell of a poison ivy bush. Interviewer: What does that look like? Do you know? 464: I don't know, I ain't see'd it, I just heard 'em talking about it {NW} No I ain't see'd that. {NS} Interviewer: And say if a married woman didn't want to make up her own mind about something she'd say I have to ask 464: A married woman? Interviewer: Yeah she'd say I have to ask 464: My husband. Interviewer: Okay. And he would say I have to ask 464: uh #1 he # Interviewer: #2 ta- # 464: he would say that? Interviewer: Talking about her he'd say I have to ask 464: My wife. Interviewer: Any joking ways they'd refer to each other? 464: Say which? Interviewer: Any joking ways they would refer to each other? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah but I don't know. I know what I'd say Interviewer: What would 464: #1 if it was me # Interviewer: #2 you # 464: I tell you if you're grown you can suit yourself {NW} Interviewer: #1 What? # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # I'd tell him you was grown you can suit yourself, I don't know why Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} lordy. Interviewer: And a woman whose husband is dead is called a 464: The woman? Interviewer: Yeah. 464: A widow. Interviewer: And um the man whose child you are is called your 464: Say which? Interviewer: The man whose child you are is called your 464: Daddy. Interviewer: Or a- any other names for him? 464: Father. My daddy or father or my Interviewer: And his wife is your 464: Mother. Interviewer: And together they're your 464: Mother and father. Interviewer: Or your 464: Huh? Say what? Interviewer: You- your mother and father are called your 464: Parents. Interviewer: Okay. What did you call your mother and father? 464: Say what did I call 'em? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Called 'em mother and father. Daddy. Interviewer: Okay. And your father's father is called your 464: Granddaddy. Interviewer: And his wife would be your 464: Grandmother. Interviewer: What did you call them? 464: Hmm? Interviewer: What did you call them? 464: Grandmother and granddaddy. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um something on wheels that you can put a baby in and it'll lie down. 464: Wheels you can put a baby in? Interviewer: #1 Something # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: something on wheels you can 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 put a baby # in it. 464: A baby bed? Carriage? Interviewer: Okay. The and you say you'd put the baby in a carriage and then you'd go out and what 464: #1 roll him # Interviewer: #2 the baby? # 464: out? Interviewer: Huh? 464: Roll him. Interviewer: Okay. And if a woman was going to have a child you'd say that she's 464: Pregnant. Interviewer: Okay. Did they used to use that word much? Did 464: #1 No # Interviewer: #2 people # 464: they didn't use it much long when I was coming up, they'd say they was big, that's what {D: they'd say} {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Did that does that kind of sort of um 464: {NW} Interviewer: bad to use to say now? 464: Mm-hmm. {X} Yeah it sounded sort of bad but to me but I was and then got so used to it until I reckon it come natural to me but it sounds bad now. Interviewer: Um and if you didn't have a doctor to deliver the baby you'd get a 464: Midwife. Interviewer: Okay. Is that what they always used to call her? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's what they called 'em, midwives. Interviewer: And um say if a boy has the same color hair and eyes that his father has and the same shaped nose you'd say that he 464: Was like his daddy. Interviewer: Huh? 464: Say he was just like his daddy. Interviewer: Okay. What'd be any other way of saying that? 464: Hmm? Interviewer: Any other way of saying that? 464: Mm no not as I know of now. I can't think right now. But that's all we ever used was just like his daddy or just like his mother or Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 whatever # they was. {NW} Interviewer: #1 What if he has # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: he has the same behavior you'd say that he 464: That his daddy had? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {X} Well let's see, we got he- that's what I'd say. He got ways like his daddy. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um if a child was misbehaving you might tell 'em if you did that again you're gonna get a 464: Whooping. Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Any other words? # 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 Anything else # 464: #2 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: you could tell him? 464: {NW} {D: Mm I don't know how to say that} And I'll whoop you and that's what I used to say and I'll tell your daddy and let him whoop you. Interviewer: {NW} 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 464: {NW} Interviewer: And a child that's born to a woman that's not married you'd call the child a 464: Well I tell you what they used to call 'em. Call 'em bastards. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 Anything else? # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} No not as I know of now, I can't think of it right now. Interviewer: Did you 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 ever hear # 464: but I know they used to call 'em bastards whenever they had children and weren't married to the man. Interviewer: Did you ever hear woods- 464: Uh Interviewer: Woods colt? Or 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 woods child? # 464: #2 Yeah # yeah I've heard that, woods- {C: traffic} wood colts. Wood colts. Colts something. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: Let's see what 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 And um # Interviewer: your brother's son would be called your 464: My brother's son? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: What would I be {D: telling you} talking about? Interviewer: Well what would he be to you? He'd be your 464: Niece or nephew, one some of them. One of them things Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: And a child that's lost both parents would be called a 464: o- o- uh motherless and fatherless child. #1 Orphan. # Interviewer: #2 Or they # Interviewer: Huh? 464: Orphan. Interviewer: Okay. And um a person who's supposed to look after him would be called his 464: I can't call that, I know it. Interviewer: #1 His # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 legal # 464: #2 guard- # 464: Mm-hmm. I call 'em his guard mother. Interviewer: Okay. {C: car horn} {C: traffic} What about his legal guard- {C: traffic} 464: Father? Interviewer: Yeah. You know guardian or gua- 464: guardian, uh-huh. Yeah Interviewer: Huh? 464: Uh-huh, it'd be guardian. Interviewer: Okay. And um {NS} if you have a lot of cousins and nieces and nephews around you'd say this town is full of my nieces and cousins and nephews and Would 464: or c- {NW} {D: my} cousin's brothers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: Or you say all those are my 464: Related. Interviewer: #1 Huh? # 464: #2 Relation # my re- {D: my lation- ration or lation or whatever you call it} Interviewer: #1 Oh is that the word you'd # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: use? 464: Uh-huh. {NW} Interviewer: Would you ever say just kin? 464: Yeah some of the yeah, I'll say that too {X} the other day I said everything in Campton is kinfolks. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Yes. Everything right round in here is kinfolks and a lots of them in Camp- in Crestview's kinfolks. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah, all related right around here. Interviewer: Or you might say um well she has the same family name and she looks a little bit like me 464: {NW} Interviewer: But actually we're no 464: Related? Interviewer: Or we're no what to each other? 464: No kin? Interviewer: Okay. And somebody who comes into town and nobody's ever seen him before you'd call him a 464: I'd call him a stranger. Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 What if he came from a different # country? 464: I don't know. I don't know what to put that to Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: And um a woman who conduct school is called a 464: Conducts school? Interviewer: Yeah, she's a 464: Teacher. Interviewer: Okay. And these are some names um 464: {NW} Interviewer: the name that the mother of Jesus 464: Say which? Interviewer: The name of the mother of Jesus. 464: Well I don't know I can't answer that question either {NW} Interviewer: Um well you know it starts what's a what are some common names for girls? 464: Girls? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Ladies I reckon. Interviewer: Well I mean 464: #1 {D: but uh} # Interviewer: #2 what # 464: uh Interviewer: what name do are girls given? What are some names of some of the 464: What their daughters? Interviewer: Well I mean just um um or what some name of of some of your um your sisters? 464: Say what is their name? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {X} natural name Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 464: #2 {D: right now?} # 464: Oh. My sister's name Etha Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: What are some other names that girls or given? 464: Oh well some of 'em's named Catherine and some of 'em's named Mary and some Edder first one thing {D: then I can't all of 'em} I got a auntie named Edder. She stay down south. {X} I got, all of 'em's dead but one. Interviewer: What about um do you remember the song wait 'til the sun shines 464: Wait 'til the sun shines? Interviewer: Remember the name in that? 464: Uh-uh. No I can't remember that. Sure can't. Interviewer: Do you remember what um in the New Testament. The first book in the New Testament? 464: Uh-uh. Oh honey, I don't know nothing about no testaments and books and things Interviewer: #1 well # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: you remember it it goes something, Mark, Luke and John? 464: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Ma- 464: I'll hearing 'em talk about it but I can't read and I ain't read nothing about that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Sure can't. Interviewer: What about um Do you remember what a male goat is called? 464: Say which? Interviewer: What a male goat is called. 464: Uh-uh. They call him a he-goat. Interviewer: Or it 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 starts with a B # a bill- 464: A billy. Interviewer: Okay. 464: Billy goat. Interviewer: And um you remember what they called a barrel-maker? 464: Barrel maker? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: No I don't remember that. Interviewer: Or do you know the name Cooper or Cooper? 464: Cooper? Interviewer: Yeah. What would you call a married woman who had that name? 464: What would I call a married woman? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Well I'd say she was a married woman Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 464: #2 and # her husband Interviewer: her husband'd be mister, she'd be 464: Mrs Interviewer: What? 464: Whatever her name Mrs whatever his name was {D: um} {NW} #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um well if her last name was Cooper or Cooper 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 she'd be # 464: #2 Well she'd # Miss Cooper Interviewer: Okay. And um a preacher that's not very well trained and just sort of preaches here and there is not very good at preaching 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 What would you # call him? 464: Well I don't hardly know what I'd call him, just a {NW} I don't know what to call him. {NW} Interviewer: Well have you ever heard um yard axe? Or shade tree? Or jackleg preacher? 464: Mm-hmm. Oh yeah. {X} I'd call him a jackleg preacher. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: #1 How # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 what does # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: jackleg mean? 464: {NW} well I reckon it means he just ain't much of a true preacher. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {D: just} # 464: go around here and yonder and preach wherever they'll let him preach {X} that's what I'd figure. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 What uh other things # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: besides preachers would you call jackleg? 464: Uh I don't know. So many things to call I don't I don't know what we'd call {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: And um a boy named Bill, his full name would be 464: Say what? Interviewer: If a boy is named Bill his full name would be 464: Bill? Bill Russell I reckon or Bill McGloctin or something, I don't know Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 what. # {NW} Interviewer: Um 464: {NW} Interviewer: Do you remember what Kennedy's first name was? 464: Mm-mm. I sure don't. Interviewer: Um and what relation would my mother's sister be to me? 464: Your mother's sister? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Be your auntie. Interviewer: Okay. And um what's the highest rank in the army? 464: What? The highest {NW} let's see now, I have heard that too but I done forgot it, I can't think of it {NW} Interviewer: #1 Well do you # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 do you know # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: what any of the the ranks are? 464: Uh-uh. I sure don't. Interviewer: So there could be a gen- 464: {NW} {D: let's see} I've heard all of 'em ranks in the army but I just can't think of 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Sure can't. Interviewer: Um you remember you know that um Kentucky Fried Chicken? 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 Do Mm-hmm you know # 464: #2 Yeah # I've heard 'em talk about Kentucky {NW} Fried Chicken. {NW} Interviewer: Do you know what um what the name of that man is? His last name's Sanders. He's #1 called col- # 464: #2 s- # {D: Kirk} Sanders? Interviewer: Okay. And what do they call a man in charge of a ship? 464: A ship. {X} I don't know. Interviewer: He's called a ca- 464: Captain. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um a person who presides over the court he's called the 464: Lawyer? Interviewer: Or 464: #1 you say # Interviewer: #2 The # 464: the uh {X} the judge? Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And a 464: #1 I # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 464: have to think and study, I know them things but see I forgets about it and I have to study over it. Interviewer: Yeah. 464: {NW} Interviewer: The the person who person who goes to school is called a 464: The person that goes to school? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: That's the uh students. Interviewer: Okay. And a woman who works in an office and does the typing and everything, she's called the 464: {NW} uh uh let's see. Interviewer: A sec- {C: traffic} 464: Secretary. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And you'd say a a man on the stage would be an actor, a woman would be a 464: Say which? Interviewer: A man on the stage would be an actor. A woman would be a 464: Uh can't think of that neither now. Sure can't. Interviewer: Or say if um if you were born in the United States then you say that you're a what? 464: United State girl I reckon. Interviewer: Huh? 464: {NW} I'd say {NS} if they be born in the United State that'd just be a United State person I reckon. Interviewer: #1 Well there's # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: another name for that. You say you're not a Canadian, you're a 464: {NW} Interviewer: You're an Am- 464: You have to tell me them things, {X} some of 'em I just can't understand them. {NW} Interviewer: Well say um you might say um I'm glad I'm an 464: Say which? Interviewer: You might say I'm I'm glad that I'm a what? 464: {NW} uh living in this state I reckon Interviewer: Yeah you say I don't want to be a German #1 or # 464: #2 {NW} # no I don't wanna be no German, I wanna be a state that I was born Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 here. # {NW} Interviewer: #1 You'd say that # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: you're an Amer- 464: An American. Interviewer: Huh? 464: An American. Interviewer: Yeah you say that that you're then a you live in America so you're an Ame- 464: American. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And what do you call people of your race? 464: Say what do I call 'em? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Call 'em colored peoples. Interviewer: Okay. Any other #1 names # 464: #2 Or I guess # Interviewer: Huh? 464: Well some of 'em calls 'em niggers and some calls 'em darkies and s- {NW} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # I just says I was a nigger. {NW} Interviewer: How how do you feel about these different words? 464: Well I don't know, I don't feel well to tell you I don't feel bad none of them words they call me cause I know what I is. How I tries to be. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And so whatever they call me it don't hurt me. Interviewer: What's 464: Cause I know how I'm trying to lives. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: don't hurt me, I know what I is. I try to treat people like I want to be treated and everybody know how they want to be treated Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: so it don't hurt me no way they call me cause I know what I am. Interviewer: Are there any words that that make you mad if someone would 464: Uh- Interviewer: #1 call # 464: #2 uh. # Interviewer: or or not you but but other colored people or what what words are there that that are supposed to be insulting? 464: {NW} {NW} Well some of 'em it makes 'em mad for 'em to say negro but it don't me. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} no {NW} don't make me mad for ems to call me a negro or colored or black or whatever they want to, it don't hurt me. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Sure don't. Mm-mm. {X} I say the Lord know and I know it so that's enough I think. Interviewer: What would you call somebody in my race? {NW} 464: I'd call 'em white folks. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 what um # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: what insulting words are there for whites? 464: Crackers I reckon. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 And # hoosiers. Interviewer: Huh? 464: Crackers and hoosiers I reckon. Interviewer: What does hoosier mean? 464: It means white folks, I've hearing folks call white folks hoosiers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 any other words like # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: that? 464: {NW} No not as I can remember now, I've hearing 'em call 'em crackers and hoosiers. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And {X} hillbillies. I've hearing 'em call 'em that too. Interviewer: Does that mean just any white person? Or 464: Mm-hmm. I reckon that's what they mean, I don't know. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 I just # hear them say that now I never did ask them what they meant about it. {NW} Interviewer: Uh-huh. {NW} 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 What about um # 464: {NW} Interviewer: white people that aren't very well off? You know that well they they don't have any money, they don't but they don't care you know? They don't 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 work # and 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 what # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: would you call them? 464: Well I've hearing folks call 'em poor hoosiers, I don't know Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} lordy. Interviewer: What about um someone who lives way out in the country and who doesn't come into town much and when he does get into town, everybody notices him? 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 Cause he # he really looks like he's from way out in 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 the country. # 464: They call 'em old hillbillies. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And what would you call a a child that um one parent is black and the other parent's white? 464: Well I don't know what I'd call 'em mixed-blood is all I know. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 What do you call a # Interviewer: a real light-skinned negro? 464: Well oh well we always called 'em a yellow nigger. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: A yellow nigger, that's what we called 'em {NW} {NW} lordy. Interviewer: What about bright you said the woman in here the other day was bright. You mean does that mean the same as yellow? 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What about real a real dark-skinned 464: #1 Well # Interviewer: #2 person? # 464: it's it's a black nigger all I know. {NW} Interviewer: #1 The word # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: you use the word nigger. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Is that # 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 that doesn't insult you? # 464: #1 It don't # Interviewer: #2 Well it's # 464: it don't me but it do some of 'em now, {X} they'd call colored folks a dark colored person. But some of 'em call 'em black niggers and all such as that but Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I don't know. I don't know what to call them, I just say it's a dark person all I know Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 # 464: #2 # Interviewer: And um say if someone was waiting for you to get ready and they ask um if you'd be ready soon you might say well I'll be with you in 464: A few minutes. Interviewer: Or in ju- 464: Just a little while. Interviewer: Okay. And um uh this say if um if I say well I'm not gonna do such-and-such a thing and and you agree with me you say well I'm not gonna do that 464: Either. Interviewer: Okay. And um this part of my head is called my 464: Forehead. Interviewer: Okay. And this is my 464: Hair. Interviewer: And on a man hair here would be a 464: Beards. Interviewer: And um this is my 464: Ear. Interviewer: Which one? 464: Your left one. Interviewer: Huh? 464: Your left ear. Interviewer: Okay and this is my 464: Right ear. Interviewer: And this is my 464: Mouth. Interviewer: And this 464: This is your neck Interviewer: #1 and this # 464: #2 throat. # Interviewer: huh? 464: Uh that's your neck. And that's your throat under there. Interviewer: #1 Okay. Is there # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: another name for throat? 464: {NW} No no name but what I give 'em, I give 'em goozles them up under there {NW} Interviewer: #1 What is {D: sc-} goozle? # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 464: #2 {NW} # That thing right up under there, next to your pallet of your tongue I calls it the goozle. Interviewer: The thing that moves up and down? 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: #1 That # 464: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: The Adam's apple thing? 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Okay. 464: That's what I call 'em now, I don't know what {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And this is my 464: Teeth. Interviewer: Or just one 464: Mm-hmm. That's one Interviewer: One what? 464: That's one tooth. Interviewer: And several 464: Several of those in there. Interviewer: Several what? 464: Teeth. Interviewer: And these are the 464: Gums. Interviewer: And this is my 464: {NW} hand. Interviewer: And two 464: Two hands. Interviewer: And this is the 464: Palm of your hand. Interviewer: And this is one 464: Fist. Interviewer: Two 464: Fists. Two fists. Interviewer: And um a place where the bones come together 464: Say which? Interviewer: A place where the bones come together. 464: {X} {D: well I} around down in here? Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: You call that a 464: Your knuckles I do. Interviewer: Or just any place 464: #1 Uh-huh, I # Interviewer: #2 where the bones come # 464: s- well that's I call that your kneecap. Interviewer: Uh-huh 464: {NW} Interviewer: Um say if people get old they complain they're getting stiff in their 464: Joints. Interviewer: Okay. And on a man this part of his body is the 464: His chest. Interviewer: And these are the 464: Shoulders. Interviewer: And this is the 464: Thighs and knees. And legs. Interviewer: And this is one 464: It's foot. Interviewer: Two? 464: Two foots. Interviewer: And um this bone right here 464: {NW} that one right here? Interviewer: This sensitive bone here 464: I call that my shankbone, I don't know Interviewer: #1 {D: Okay} # 464: #2 {D: what it} # is. Interviewer: Um 464: {NW} They hurts enough for me to know what they is Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 what # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: what do you call this back part here? 464: That's your thigh, back Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: back thigh I call it. Interviewer: Okay. What if I get down in this position? You say I {C: traffic} 464: Squatting. Interviewer: Okay. Any other expression for that? 464: Uh-uh. Not I don't know. Interviewer: Did you ever hear hunker? 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah I've heard it, hunker. Sure have {X} {NW} Interviewer: Did you ever hear this called your hunkers or your haunches or 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah I've heard it. {NW} Way on back up there, I call it the pawns. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {C: traffic} {NW} Interviewer: #1 And um # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: Say if someone had been sick for a while you'd say well he's up and about now but he still looks a bit 464: Bad. Interviewer: #1 Anything else # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 you'd say about him? # 464: #2 Uh-huh # yeah he looks I don't know what you could say about him. Interviewer: Do you say peaked or puny? 464: #1 Ah # Interviewer: #2 Or # 464: yeah. Puny. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {X} Interviewer: And someone who's in real good shape you might say he's big and 464: Healthy-looking. Interviewer: Or he's he can lift heavy things you'd 464: #1 Uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 say he's # big and 464: strong. Interviewer: Okay. Any other words? 464: {NW} No I don't can't think of nothing else right now. Interviewer: What about the word stout? 464: Oh yeah. Yeah stout. Interviewer: What does that mean? 464: Big old healthy stout-looking something. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: Does it just mean he's strong? Or does it mean he's sort of overweight or what? 464: Well now sometime they be overweight and sometime he says strong. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} {D: you know that} my brother what was here a while ago now he's a big old healthy strong-looking something but there ain't nothing to him. He ain't no got no strength to him. Interviewer: He's been pretty sick, hasn't he? 464: Mm-hmm. He been in the hospital a while. They was to put him back in there today but he said that he they told him to come back next week. {X} Interviewer: Someone who's who's real easy to get along with you know is always smiling and everything 464: Mm- Interviewer: #1 If what would # 464: #2 -hmm. # Interviewer: you say about them? 464: I'd say they was kind and lovely. Interviewer: Okay. And what about someone like maybe a a teenage boy who just seems to be all arms and legs? 464: {D: yeah} I don't know {X} I'd say just outgrow his strength I reckon Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: #1 What about # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: who's always just 464: {NW} Interviewer: stumbling over things and dropping things? You'd say that he's 464: I'd say he was just {D: fumblified} that's what I'd say. Interviewer: {NW} Okay. And um a person that just keeps on doing things that don't make any sense you'd say that person's just a plain 464: Crazy. {NS} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 Fool # I'd call him. {NW} Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 And someone who # has a lot of money but never spends any money you'd say he's a 464: nit I'd call him. Stingy. {NW} Interviewer: He's knit? 464: {NW} that's what I'd call him, a nit. {NW} Interviewer: What do you mean nit? 464: {NW} {X} stingy. If he won't spend got money and won't spend it I call 'em nits, now that's stingy. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {D: Yeah} Interviewer: Um and say an old person that still gets around real well and doesn't um show his age, you'd say that he's mighty 464: It's blessed. He's #1 well- # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 464: blessed. Interviewer: Would you say something like he's spry or 464: Mm-hmm. Yeah he's spry. Sure would. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 I've seen # a lots of 'em old folks, I say well they old but they sure is spry. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And a child might say well I'm not gonna go upstairs in the dark, I'm {C: traffic} 464: Don't have a light? Interviewer: Or I'm too 464: Not going upstairs in the dark. Interviewer: Because I'm 464: I'm too scared. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: And um say um if your children were out later than usual you'd say well I don't guess there's anything wrong but still I can't help feeling a little 464: Worried about 'em. Interviewer: Or a little 464: Worried about 'em. Interviewer: Or you you say you wouldn't feel easy, you'd say you felt 464: I I I'd always say I feel worried about 'em, sometime I say uneasy about 'em. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Mm-hmm. {NW} Interviewer: And you say well it's gonna be alright, just don't 464: {NW} {NW} worry about it. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And when you say that a person is common what does that mean? 464: Say which? Interviewer: When you say that a person is common 464: Common? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Well I just the one I's call common is just old somebody that don't try to put on airs and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Be more than what they is. {NW} Interviewer: #1 So it's it's # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: good to be called common? 464: Yeah I think it is. Interviewer: Okay. And um {NS} 464: Common council. Interviewer: Huh? 464: I said they're common council. {NW} Interviewer: #1 What's that? # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} my daughter, I said they common council but I call it council be crippling her leg. {C: door creaks} Interviewer: Hi. 464: Hey. {NS} Get you a seat. Aux: You getting the mail? {NS} 464: Ain't nobody brought me none. Aux: Well I don't know who went to the box. 464: Uh I sure don't. Nobody may not be went there {X} no they got them babies over there and {X} been there uh Bernise, it ain't at home Aux: {X} 464: #1 so I be # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Aux: {D: think about them in my mailroom.} 464: Say Bernise? What? Say y'all Aux: #1 {X} # 464: #2 was # Aux: Ms Emmitt's in the mailroom. 464: Oh. Aux: #1 Yeah just come # 464: #2 Well # Aux: over there and pick {X} {NW} He may live. He said he he had to see {D: it is then} 464: George cured him but Aux: #1 {X} # 464: #2 he brought him back # Aux: {D: Ms Emmitt} said she's sent Mr George. 464: Mm-hmm. Aux: He got up there talking {D: his can off} {C: traffic} 464: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # {NW} 464: He sure was glad of it too I know cause had me to open and unload his suitcase. Leave his things here. Aux: #1 Well I didn't let him # 464: #2 {NW} # Aux: stay in that. 464: He said it was {D: Anima's} suitcase Aux: #1 Anima. # 464: #2 said he was gonna # Aux: {X} 464: he was gonna get it back to her but he had me to unload it. Aux: {X} I don't know when he gone down there 464: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} {NS} but I know it ain't 464: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 gonna be nothing but bills. # 464: Okay- so you done got to working I reckon? Aux: Hoo I was doing that to come over. I got to it at nine-thirty. 464: Mm- Aux: #1 And I couldn't # 464: #2 hmm. # Aux: {X} {D: changed those three to the bed} 464: {NW} Aux: My old floor with a damp mop, that was all she wanted. 464: I don't see why she have to have it cleaned every Aux: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 week. # No honey, ain't nobody there but Aux: #1 {X} # 464: #2 her. # Aux: #1 {X} # 464: #2 And she don't # be there only at night Aux: {X} They don't, she don't have no circle? {D: Church Circle} talking the other night. 464: Oh. Aux: Yeah I mean. I wanna ask you something. I said what is it? She said you satisfied working here? I said if I wouldn't have been I wouldn't be working 464: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # 464: Oh lordy. Aux: {D: Do you want me to get the paper?} 464: Huh? Interviewer: She says {NS} Aux: do you want me to bring you the paper? {X} {NS} 464: Okay. Interviewer: #1 Someone # 464: #2 It's a # {D: door one} I expect. Interviewer: Huh? 464: I told her she's bringing me some mail {D: to this here door} and I expect {C: speech outside} If I don't get something done for my eyes they gonna be done. {NW} Interviewer: #1 {X} # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: Someone um who leaves a lot of money on the table and then goes outside and doesn't even lock the door you'd say he's mighty what with his money? 464: Careless I'd call it. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And someone who's real sure of himself and you can't argue with him, he won't change his mind once he's got his mind made up. 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 You'd say that # he's mighty 464: {NW} {C: knock on door} Come on in! {C: knock on door} Come on in! {NS} Study about that. Aux: Good Interviewer: #1 Hey. # Aux: #2 morning. # 464: Lay 'em in there {NS} {NW} Interviewer: Would say he's stubborn or {D: sod} or 464: #1 Uh- # Interviewer: #2 {NS} # 464: #1 yeah. # Interviewer: #2 hard-headed? # 464: I'd say he was stubborn and hard-headed. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um someone that {NS} 464: Excuse me just a minute. Uh- you ain't been the mailbox is you? Aux: {NW} No I'm {X} want me to check? 464: Yeah. If you don't mind it. {NS} Interviewer: Someone that you can't joke with without him losing his temper. You'd say he's mighty {NS} 464: Mean I'd say, and ill. Interviewer: Or someone that {NS} maybe if there's one subject that you can't talk about in front of him is 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 He # Interviewer: you say um well don't tease him about that, he's 464: Uh-huh. Too y- I'd say too easy to make mad. {NS} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 You say he's # 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {D: tuches} or # 464: uh- Interviewer: #1 {D: retful or} # 464: #2 huh. # Uh-huh. Sure I say just I'd say he was just mean as a devil, that's what I'd say {NW} Interviewer: #1 You say well # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: I was just kidding him, I didn't know he'd get so 464: Mad and Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 uh up- # set and uh Interviewer: And someone who's who's about to lose their temper you might tell 'em now just keep 464: Quiet. Interviewer: Or keep 464: Your temper down. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {D: a while} # Interviewer: And um you say well there's nothing really wrong with Aunt Lizzy but sometimes she acts kind of 464: Funny and {X} {NS} queer, something or Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 another. # Upset or something. {NW} Interviewer: What do you mean she acts kind of queer? 464: Uh-huh. Well you {X} know if you can't get along with her {D: why} Aux: {X} 464: That's what I'd say, she'd act queer. Aux: Uh-huh. Say if you'd been working very hard, you'd say that you were very 464: Tired. Interviewer: Anything else you'd say? 464: {NW} I'd say tired and wore-out. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And say if someone had been well and all of a sudden you hear they've got a disease you might ask well when was it that they 464: {X} {D: had it} I'd say it was a stroke or something like that. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 You say d- # 464: #2 a heart # attack one. Interviewer: Well he was looking fine yesterday. When was 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 it that he # Interviewer: got sick? {NW} When was it that he 464: Taken sick. Interviewer: Okay. And say someone went outside in in bad weather and came in with sneezing and everything y- you'd say that he 464: Taken a cold. Interviewer: Okay. And if he couldn't talk right you'd say that he was 464: Hoarse I call it. {NW} Interviewer: {NW} and if you go like that you'd say you have a 464: Cough. Interviewer: And if you can't hear anything at all you say that you're 464: Deaf. Interviewer: And um say if a man had been out working in the sun and he takes off his shirt and it's all wet he'd say look how much I 464: Sweated. Interviewer: And a sore that comes to a head. you'd call a 464: Say what? Interviewer: A sore you have that comes to a head. 464: We call it risings. Interviewer: Anything else? 464: {NW} Cap balls and risings what I call 'em. Interviewer: What's a cap ball? 464: {NW} it's a little old something, come up on you and come to a head be a Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 little # white {C: traffic} spot in the middle of it. Be swolled up in a little white spot. Interviewer: What's um what do you call the stuff that drains out when it opens? 464: {NS} Uh I call it corruptions, I don't know what what it Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 is. # 464: {NW} Interviewer: What about um when you open a blister? 464: Well I- just a clear blister? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: I say water runs out of it. Interviewer: Okay. 464: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And um you say a bee stung me and my hand 464: Swolled up. Interviewer: And you say it's still pretty badly 464: Swole. Interviewer: And you say if a bee stings you your hand will 464: Swell up. Interviewer: And if someone got shot or stabbed you'd say you have to get the doctor to look at the 464: A wound. Interviewer: And um if a wound doesn't heal back right you know and it's got to be cut out or burned out 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: You'd what do you call that? 464: Operated, I call it operation. Interviewer: Well have you ever heard that called some kind of flesh? 464: Say what? Interviewer: Some kind of flesh? When it 464: {NW} Interviewer: it grows it doesn't grow back right, a wound doesn't. 464: Mm-mm. I I don't know what to call that now. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of proud flesh? Or 464: Yeah. Sure have, proud flesh. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Sure have heard of that now. Interviewer: And um say if you had a little cut on your finger what might you put on it to brown medicine that stings? 464: Uh {NS} brown medicine that stings? I alwa- always put alcohol on mine when I had a cut place like that. {NW} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Well # what about that that brown medicine that stings a lot? {C: traffic} 464: I can't remember about that. {NS} Interviewer: Do you call that i- {NS} 464: Iodine? Id- i- something Interviewer: Huh? 464: {D: Is it iodine? Ioder? Or something or another} {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NS} Some of them things I can't call plain. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Mm-hmm. {C: door creaking} {NS} Aux #2: {X} 464: O- Aux #2: #1 They ain't # 464: #2 kay. # Aux #2: #1 at home. # 464: #2 They ain't # at home? Aux #2: Uh-uh. Uh you still got um {D: flashlight?} flashlight? 464: Mm-hmm. Aux #2: Kevin want to borrow it, {X} for the house, I told 464: #1 No # Aux #2: #2 him # 464: you tell him I said Aux #2: #1 I told him. # 464: #2 {X} # you ought to bring it back cause some folks don't brink back nothing Aux #2: I told him. 464: There it is in that Aux #2: #1 {D: don't carry} # 464: #2 {D: pile} # Aux #2: nothing with me cause he just as scared of {D: Calvin as uh} 464: No bes- Aux #2: #1 {X} # 464: #2 {X} # Aux #2: {X} {NS} 464: {NW} Junior. Aux #2: What did you say? 464: Behind that picture sitting up there. On the shelfs. You find it? {C: traffic} Aux #2: {X} 464: {NW} {NS} Aux #2: {D: No that he's about to run her crazy there} 464: #1 He's scared of her too. # Aux: #2 {X} # 464: {NW} Aux #2: Huh. 464: {NW} I asked that boy whether he's scared of her too. He's looking at her like he is. {NS} {NW} Aux #2: You don't have just a I don't what it's scared of. Both of 'em the same color and all 464: {NW} Interviewer: What's that? 464: {NW} She said she didn't know why he was scared of 'em, both of 'em are the same color. {NW} {NW} {C: software sound} That's like Amber our little girl {NS} is there. Boy live up there at Laurel Hill, a man and she can see him coming and she'll start to trembling and the water just running out from her eyes. Interviewer: {NW} 464: I don't know why but that's {X} way I reckon. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What um would you call a a real bitter white powder that people used to take for medicine? It's real bitter. 464: Powders? Interviewer: Well just what what's the most bitter medicine that people used to take? 464: Let me see. I don't know. {D: Black troth?} Interviewer: {D: No it's} it's this um 464: Is it white? Or Interviewer: It's white. 464: {X} Interviewer: But sometimes people'd put it in capsules and take it for a cold. Or 464: #1 Oh uh # Interviewer: #2 fever? # 464: {NW} I don't Interviewer: Do you know 464: #1 uh # Interviewer: #2 qui- # 464: quinine. Interviewer: Is that 464: I've taken I- uh-huh, I've taken quinine, it's real bitter. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} Interviewer: And um say if someone had died you might say well he's been dead a week and nobody's figured out yet what he died 464: With. Interviewer: And um what do you call a place where people are buried? {C: traffic} 464: Cemetery. Interviewer: Okay, any other name for that? 464: Graveyard. Interviewer: What about what they put the body in? 464: Box. Interviewer: Or the 464: Oh, where they put 'em in before they carry 'em to the cemetery? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} A funeral home. Interviewer: And what what about the box sort of thing that they put 'em in? 464: I call 'em caskets. Interviewer: Okay. What did people used to call 'em? 464: Coffins. Interviewer: Did you ever hear pinto? 464: Pinto? Interviewer: Call 'em pinto? 464: Not as I know of, if I did I done forgot it. Interviewer: Yeah. What you say um he was an important man when he died and everybody went to his 464: Funeral. Interviewer: And when people are dressed in black you say that they're in 464: Mourning I call it. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um say on an average sort of day if if someone asked you how you were feeling what would you tell 'em? 464: I- say which now? Interviewer: O- on an average sort of day if someone asked you how you were feeling 464: Well I'd tell 'em I didn't feel good. If I weren't feeling good and if I did I'd say I feel alright. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um when you're getting old and your joints start giving you troubles you say you've got 464: Arthritis {D: l-} they say Interviewer: #1 {X} # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Any other 464: I say old age. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: And um 464: {NW} Interviewer: a this is something that people used to die from, it was a {C: traffic} you get a real bad sore throat. 464: Mm-hmm. Tonsils. Interviewer: No it's it was worse than that. Children would choke up from it. 464: Oh cold? Interviewer: It was dipth- 464: Dip- diphtheria or diphtheria or whatever you call it #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 What about a # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: disease where your skin and your eyeballs turn yellow? 464: The yellow {D: jaundice} Interviewer: Okay. And um when you have a pain down here and you have to have an operation you say you've got 464: {NW} Cancers. Interviewer: #1 Or you # 464: #2 No # Interviewer: had an attack of a 464: Uh Interviewer: it's your appendix, you say 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 you've had a # 464: Yeah appendix. Yeah I've Interviewer: What do you 464: #1 I can't # Interviewer: #2 call that # disease? {C: traffic} 464: Well {NS} I don't know. I always said you had appendage. appendage or whatever you call it. Interviewer: Okay. 464: That's what I call it {X} {NW} Interviewer: And say if you ate something that didn't agree with you and it came back up you'd say you had to 464: {X} I'd say it was made me sick at the stomach and I vomit. Interviewer: Okay. Any other word besides vomit? 464: {NW} Puke. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 And um # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: {NW} Interviewer: Say if a if a boy kept on going over to the same girl's house and spent a lot of time with her you'd say that he was 464: Courting. Interviewer: Okay. And he would be called her 464: Boyfriend. Interviewer: and she would be his 464: Girlfriend. Interviewer: but is that what they used to say? 464: Uh-huh. Yeah that's what they used to say. Boyfriend and girlfriend. {NW} Interviewer: #1 And um # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: {NW} Interviewer: Say if a boy comes home with lipstick on his collar, his little brother would say that he had been 464: Hugging a girl. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Or doing what? # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Kissing. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: #1 and um # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: say if um when the girl stops letting the boy come over to see him come over to see her you'd say that she 464: Say which? Interviewer: When the girl stops letting the boy come over to see her you'd say that she {NW} {D: well} quit him. Okay. Or you say um he asked her to marry him but she 464: Didn't want to marry. Interviewer: Or she what 464: Say which? Interviewer: Would you ever say she turned him down? Or 464: Turned yeah. Interviewer: gave him the sack? Or 464: #1 Turned him down. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 464: #1 Didn't # Interviewer: #2 Huh? # 464: turned him down and didn't want him I'd Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 say. # Interviewer: You say um well they were engaged and all of a sudden she 464: She just backed out. Interviewer: Okay. And at a wedding the boy that stands up with the groom is called the 464: Say which? Interviewer: At a wedding you know? 464: Uh- Interviewer: There's a boy that stands up with the groom, probably the the groom's best friend or something 464: Uh- Interviewer: you call him the 464: the uh {NS} {NS} I done forgot that now, I know what you're talking about but I can't call it Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: What about the woman that stands up with the brides? 464: {NS} well I don't know what to call her either. Interviewer: Or do you remember um say a a long time ago if people in in the community'd get married um other people'd ring off ring cowbells or fire off rifles and 464: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 What # 464: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: What was that called? 464: {X} it was um celebrating what I call it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Celebrating a couple that married. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: And they'd shoot guns and ring bells and keep up all kind of rackets {NW} Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} That's what they used to call it, now I don't know what they call it now. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Call it celebrating the people that got married. Interviewer: Okay. And say if there was a party and there had been some trouble at the party you'd say well the police came and they didn't arrest just one or two of them, they arrested the 464: Whole bunch. Interviewer: Okay. And um when young people go out in the evening and move around on the floor to music, you call that a 464: Call it dancing. Interviewer: Okay. 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Do you remember # Interviewer: what would you call a a kind of a dance that you have at home? {NS} 464: Well they used to call them frolics. Interviewer: Okay. 464: That's what they used to call 'em when they had them home parties {X} {NS} Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NS} Interviewer: And um say if children get out of school at four o'clock you say at four o'clock school 464: Is out. Interviewer: Okay. Or school does what? School 464: Say which? Interviewer: At four o'clock school 464: #1 Clo- # Interviewer: #2 Does # what? 464: Closes. Interviewer: Okay. And children might ask when does school 464: Close. Interviewer: or after vacation they'd say when does school 464: Start. Interviewer: Okay. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And um if a boy left home to go to school and didn't show up in school that day you'd say he 464: {NW} He was uh I'd say he was uh I know that now too but I just can't think right now. Interviewer: Do you ever hear play 464: Mm-hmm. {X} I can't call it now but I've heard it. That {D: Gussy} boy done last week. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 464: #2 {NW} # 464: Kidnapped us {D: all} I'd call it. {NW} Made out like he's going to school when there weren't no school. Interviewer: Yeah. 464: {NW} {NW} Interviewer: What do people go to school for? 464: To learn. {D: do the lesson} and education, be educated. Interviewer: Okay. And after high school you go onto 464: To that {NS} to the {NS} and get educated. Interviewer: you'd 464: {D: to the} high school and Interviewer: Then after 464: what they Interviewer: after high school you go to 464: Go to college. Interviewer: And after kindergarten you go into the 464: After kindergarten? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: The little ones you talking about? Interviewer: Yeah. 464: They goes into the big school then {X} learning the lessons and things. Interviewer: Well which which grade or class do you go in? 464: I sure couldn't tell you, the first I reckon. Interviewer: #1 The first # 464: #2 They'd # 464: after they come out of kindergarten I reckon they gets in the first grade. Interviewer: Okay. {NS} And you say years ago children sat on benches but now they sit at 464: On stools. Interviewer: #1 Or # 464: #2 Sit on # {NS} Interviewer: they have a thing 464: little I know what you're talking about but I can't call it. Interviewer: Well it's 464: #1 them # Interviewer: #2 got # 464: little tables where they put the books on. What do you {X} Interviewer: you call it a desk? 464: Desk, mm-hmm. {X} Interviewer: You say 464: {NW} Interviewer: Uh now children sit at 464: The desks. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 Uh- # huh. Interviewer: And if you wanted to check out a book you'd go to the public 464: Teacher? Interviewer: Or you'd a building where they have books, you'd call that a 464: Uh {NW} I don't know now. Cause I never did get that far in school, I didn't get no further than second grade. Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # 464: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: #1 But # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: well say if you wanted if someone wanted to check out a book in town but there's one building in town where they have a lot of books that they'll lend you. 464: {NW} Interviewer: And they call that the public li- 464: {X} I don't know. {D: No if I don't} know I ain't gonna try to tell it cause I Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 don't know. # {X} {NS} Interviewer: where would you go to mail a package? 464: To the uh office. Interviewer: #1 What # 464: #2 To the # 464: uh Interviewer: the po- 464: {NW} {NW} Ooh-wee. Crazy, this is crazy. {NW} Interviewer: #1 Well where where would you go to # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: mail a letter? You'd go to the 464: Office. To the mail office. #1 You'd go # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 464: someplace {NS} Interviewer: And you'd stay over night in a strange town at a 464: A hotel? Interviewer: Okay. And you'd see a play or a movie at a Uh I ain't been to them enough to know {X} {NW} I ain't never been to {D: and every} one 464: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # you'd call that a thea- 464: {NW} Theater. Uh- Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 464: #2 huh. # 464: {NW} Interviewer: And you have a a doctor and a 464: Nurse? Interviewer: And um you'd catch a train at the 464: Train station. Interviewer: Okay. And um before they had buses in town they used to have these things that they'd run on on rails? 464: On rails. Interviewer: In in this town, do you remember what they were called? 464: {X} {X} I don't nothing before they had the bus stations? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Did you ever hear 464: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 street # car or electric car or 464: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 car # 464: I have heard, yeah of the trains sure. These run on a train. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 Go on # a train. Interviewer: And you'd tell the bus driver, this next corner is where I want 464: To get off. Interviewer: Okay. And here in Okaloosa County um Crestview is the 464: Is the main state bus station Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 stop. # Interviewer: Well it's where you have the courthouse and everything, you'd say 464: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 It's the # 464: city {D: lemmage} Interviewer: Okay. And um {C: rooster crowing} if you #1 were a # 464: #2 {X} # Interviewer: a postmaster you'd be working for the federal 464: Government. Interviewer: And the police in the town are supposed to maintain what? They're supposed to make sure that there's law 464: {D: that there's} there's {X} law. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Mm-hmm. I reckon. Interviewer: Talking about um the order too you'd say they're supposed to make sure that there's law 464: Say which? Interviewer: Say if if the police if um someone thinks the police should get tougher you'd say that he's all for law 464: Uh- this yeah, they'd say he all for law, mean law or something. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: Some of 'em you have to get mean to 'em. Interviewer: #1 And um # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} the fight between the North and the South in back in eighteen-sixty-something where they freed the slaves, you call that fight the 464: Say which? Interviewer: W- what was the fight between the North and the South called? 464: I don't know. Interviewer: You know when when they freed the slaves. 464: Uh- #1 huh. # Interviewer: #2 That # was called the 464: I've heard it but I done forgot now, {X} Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 464: #2 {X} # {NW} Interviewer: And you'd say um before they had the electric chair murderers were 464: Hung up by they necks, with ropes or chains or something in a tree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: {NW} Interviewer: #1 And you say that # 464: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: man went out and what himself? 464: Mm-hmm. Hung hisself. Interviewer: And um these are some some names of some states and some cities um the biggest city in this country is in what state? 464: I don't know. Interviewer: Um and Baltimore is in 464: The biggest city? Interviewer: Uh-huh. 464: State {C: traffic} I