472: everything just real calm and I go real about to sleep well about thirty minutes. Or an hour he'd jerk that train and cause me to wake again. Interviewer: Oh yeah. 472: And that's bad. Interviewer: All those cars will hit together? 472: Yeah. {X} Interviewer: Tell me again what you call those uh places? 472: Little bumps or Interviewer: Or 472: They call pip pimp jennies pimp jennies Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: {D: Pimp Jennies} Interviewer: You ever seen these uh that had uh uh 472: {X} a- and there's another there's another bump that comes on it it's called a uh {X} {NS} goosebumps some of 'em calls 'em goosebumps. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: I see. You ever heard of anything called a car bumper? 472: Ooh yeah. Interviewer: What's that like? 472: That's uh car bumpers generally comes on they back. Most of the time. Well it's a big old sore if you can't hardly tore her up no way Interviewer: {NW} 472: It's just tail And it just turns wrong side out. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Just just raw all the time. Interviewer: It's worse than a rising? 472: Worse than a rising yeah. And you can't stop your clothes from tearing. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Car bumpers. Interviewer: Pretty bad. 472: Yeah it's bad. Interviewer: what do you call that uh white stuff in a rising that you have mash out? 472: A rupture. Now it's got another name. {X} They call it um pus. Pus it is yeah. Interviewer: Pus corruption? 472: Corruption. Interviewer: {X} You know sometimes when people get blisters on their hands. they'll be this uh liquid inside that you have to get out before long? 472: Oh that's that's called uh they call water blisters. It's your water accumulates in there. And uh you have to pick 'em or let it out. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: And it'll really burn when that other skin comes out against that Interviewer: Right. 472: skin. Interviewer: Right I see. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Have you ever uh you know if you if a person had a a a wound and uh the flesh around it didn't heal cleanly it'll kinda turn white and kinda grainy you know? Have you ever heard that flesh called anything? 472: Inflammation. Interviewer: Yeah. 472: Yeah inflammation {X} It's causing it. {C: clears throat} Interviewer: Ever heard of anything called proud flesh? 472: Yeah oh that's that's that's a carbuncle Interviewer: {NW} 472: {X} Well it {D: hitting} a carbuncle or {X} Proud flesh. That's another thing that'd be hard to do something with. Interviewer: Right. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: I see. 472: Like a sore on your leg or something you know you can't hardly get them cured that's the hardest thing to cure sometime that there is. Interviewer: Right I see. {NW} 472: Well that's called if you stand on it too much and your weight pressure. Interviewer: Right. 472: Pressure. Interviewer: Well say if if I cut my hand and I wanted to put something on it to prevent the infection what might you use to put on your hand? 472: Well outside of uh some people won't wash the won- won't put water in a place like that. But I always like to if it ain't too bad I do the and then I put if I used if I wanna use any me- any uh medicine of any kind I use this uh a {X} or what they call the other? curochrome 472: curochrome Interviewer: Do people still use uh io- iodine? 472: Iodine yeah. Iodine yeah. They still use iodine. Interviewer: That's pretty bad? 472: Yeah iodine. {NS} Why curochrome and {X} Just about some of that mixed right there Interviewer: Right. 472: That's what I hear. Interviewer: Have you ever had to take any of this uh real bitter white powder people use to give for malaria? Real bitter tasting. 472: Well that's called oh I know what you're talking about quinine. Interviewer: Right. 472: Quinine yes sir I've taken that stuff. {NW} {X} my dad used coffee and they learn you lear- you learn a lot you could take just parched coffee and cure it after you take this dose of quinine. You see they got to where they put it in your night capsule if you don't have a case {X} But this here we'd just take it on a spoon or something or other put it in your mouth and swallow it with water. Interviewer: {D: Right.} {NS} 472: {X} Interviewer: {NW} 472: Okay and they let us chew chew parts of coffee and suck the juice out of it. Chew chew that parched coffee. And that there'll kill you. Interviewer: That quinine's pretty rough though. 472: Oh yes sir yeah {NW} It sure is. Interviewer: Let me ask you about this expression you know when a if a person has died uh you might hear somebody say especially if this person didn't like the person who died if he was joking about it or being mean about it he might say well that old sorry so-and-so finally 472: dead {X} That old soul finally passed out of it. Finally died. Interviewer: Would you would passed out be a joking or a mean way of saying it? Or would it be just a regular way? 472: Just a regular way mostly. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 472: #2 Passed away. # Interviewer: Have you ever heard seen anybody say something besides passed out or or died uh if he wanted to you know just be kinda nasty about it? That old tightwad finally You know like kick the bucket or 472: Yeah uh yeah finally kicked the bucket yeah. {NW} finally kicked the bucket now that's pretty short ain't it? Interviewer: {NW} It sure is. 472: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: {NW} Interviewer: Really probably didn't care too much 472: #1 I trust # Interviewer: #2 for him. # 472: #1 {NW # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: #1 Yes # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: I trust that I'll be where uh {X} Interviewer: #1 {X} # 472: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {X} {NW 472: Well that's bad. Interviewer: Yeah it sure is. 472: #1 Might live a good life. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: That's real bad Interviewer: #1 Oh # 472: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 472: #2 {X} # That old joker kicked the bucket you know what I'm saying? {NS} Interviewer: {NW} 472: Too bad. Interviewer: Yes sir. Well uh a- talking about people when they die the box that they're buried in what do you call that? 472: Uh they call it a coffin. Coffin. Interviewer: I see. Ever heard that called anything else? 472: A casket. Interviewer: Casket? 472: Yeah. Casket. Interviewer: Yes sir and the ceremony for the person you say you're going to so-and-so's 472: Funeral. Interviewer: {X} Used to I think uh people would dress in black at a funeral and you'd say they're in 472: They dressed in black {X} they related to their mother or their father or something. Dressed in black. Yes. That used to be the uh way they do it. Interviewer: You would say that they were in 472: Uh yeah #1 {D: they} # Interviewer: #2 in # mourn- 472: They in uh what they call it? Interviewer: Mourning? 472: M- m- mour- mour- mourning. Interviewer: Mourning. 472: Mourning. Yeah. Interviewer: Did the do people still do that? The they 472: #1 I don't know. # Interviewer: #2 do that around here? # 472: I don't know about that I haven't saw that. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: Long time. Now here's another little thought I give you about letters. I used to when you'd get a letter some of them later could be dead, well they'd put a black line all the way around that letter. Interviewer: Huh. 472: On the outside. And just on the envelope if you ever got one with a black line around it you knowed something happened. Interviewer: Oh 472: People yeah. Interviewer: I never heard of that. 472: Yeah that's that's the way they used to do that. Long years ago. Interviewer: That's interesting. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Talking about uh when we were talking about greeting people around December the 25th you'd tell somebody well I hope you have a 472: A a a nice Christmas a nice uh Christmas and a New Year. Interviewer: Right or I hope you have a merry 472: Merry Christmas. Interviewer: Right And a what kinda New Year? 472: A New a happy New Interviewer: #1 Right. # 472: #2 Year. # 472: Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Interviewer: Have you ever heard any people say around Christmas time like if they saw 'em for the first time on Christmas day they'd say something to 'em before they could say it to the to the other person? 472: I don't see how that could now if I if I see somebody first? Interviewer: Yes sir. You wanna say 472: Gree- greeting to you. Interviewer: You ever heard of people say Christmas gift? 472: Yeah Christmas gift. Let's give a cheer. Interviewer: {NW} 472: {NW} Interviewer: Right yeah. Or say if you were walking down the street and you met somebody that you knew. What would you say to 'em? You know just greeting them inquiring about their health? 472: Well I may say to 'em if they uh was nice smiling and everything say Greeting to you. Good morning. Greeting to you. You you must be healthy. You must be happy. You just smiling. Interviewer: Right. 472: Something like that you know. Interviewer: Would you say anything to someone that you didn't know a complete stranger? Would you say if you just met him on the street? 472: No I would just say howdy uh. Good morning or good evening to you. Interviewer: I see. 472: Go- Interviewer: What if if I met you on the street and I said uh uh hello M- {B} How're you getting along? How are you doing? If it was just an average day you know what would you probably say? 472: Oh I'm I'm fine. Getting along good. But now there's a problem right there. I've got to be sure about that. Or I might tell you oh farewell {X} Interviewer: {NW} 472: #1 Kicking but not so high, # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: how are Interviewer: #1 you? # 472: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 Kicking but not so # 472: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: high. 472: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: #1 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Interviewer: That's pretty cute. Let me ask you about this uh say if the children are out kinda late you know and uh the the wife's getting a little bit excited about it the husband might say well now uh they'll be home alright just don't 472: Don't worry They'll be home alright. Interviewer: What about what do you call this disease of the joints that some people get? They can just hurt to get around. 472: Rheumatism. Interviewer: Ever heard that called anything else? 472: No unless it was uh there's a name for it but I I can't call it now. Interviewer: It's arth- 472: Ar- arthritis. Arthritis. Uh-huh. Interviewer: Is that the sa- 472: Arthritis. Arthritis. Interviewer: That's the same thing? 472: I think it is. {X} No arthritis cause your joints to swell I believe. {X} Yeah and it'll it'll put knots on it. Interviewer: Huh. 472: Arthritis. Interviewer: Rheumatism just 472: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 uh # 472: {NW} arthritis can make knots on you. Maybe on your elbow. Interviewer: {X} 472: {X} {X} Interviewer: I see. Did you ever hear of this disease that children used to get they'd get uh sores in their throat so they couldn't swallow you know? 472: Yeah that's called uh Sore throat uh croup. Interviewer: #1 Is that # 472: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {X} is that kinda like uh if uh if 472: The croup. Croup is uh after your throat get sore your just a croup it {NW} talk or croup it and you have uh uh sore throat and your voice goes to fail {D: croupism} is a failing of the voice. Interviewer: I see. 472: That's right. It's choking uh uh lung to where you can't uh in your in your speaker wherever that's at you know. It has something to do with that and it's called uh croup. {X} Interviewer: Ever heard that called diphtheria? 472: Uh well someone called it tonsillitis. {X} They call it that. And uh diphtheria now diphtheria is a different thing from just a sore throat. It's a different thing from just a croup or cold or something like that. Interviewer: It's pretty serious? 472: Yes diphtheria uh will choke you to death. Interviewer: I see. 472: And I saw a little darling die with it one evening. Interviewer: Huh. 472: Lord I hope and pray and trust that I never see that happen again. That's an awful thing it's {D: white for breathe} you know and couldn't breathe. Throat swelled up. And do- they called a doctor from Bay Minette was down here about seven or eight miles. And they called a doctor and he's coming. But there was a woman bringing a baby. And just had to stay with her then. Got that baby. {X} She got out of there called for the hot water. And stuff but it was too late. Interviewer: {NW} 472: He'd he'd turned black in the face and You reckon a little breathe he'd get in it. And he's come back to his color And he kept kept on getting it less and less. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Until it died. Just quit breathing. Interviewer: Sad. 472: {NW} {D: the next moment I could kill} {X} I never saw nobody Interviewer: {X} 472: She went out in the highway and just got out on the highway. {X} Interviewer: {NW} 472: He wouldn't have to die like that. Interviewer: {X} Have you ever heard of any disease that makes your skin and eyeballs turn yellow? 472: Yellow jaundice. Interviewer: Yeah. 472: Yellow jaundice. Interviewer: I see. Well what about if if somebody had it had to have his appendix taken out he might've had an attack of 472: Uh appendicitis. Interviewer: Right. 472: That's what they call it. Interviewer: Do you still got your's? 472: Appendicitis. Uh yeah. Interviewer: Me too. {NW} Got to keep hold of it 472: {X} Interviewer: Say if if somebody eats something that disagrees with him and it came back up you'd say that he had to 472: Uh vomit. But it's really really the name of it they call it uh uh s- uh it's got another name up there. Can't call it right now. Anyhow it's got another name besides vomit. Interviewer: Ever 472: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: yeah yeah. Yeah puke. Interviewer: {NW} 472: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: the old-fashioned name. Interviewer: Y- uh-huh. 472: Yeah that's now I got it right. Uh puke's what it's called. Interviewer: Is that a joking way 472: #1 No sir. # Interviewer: #2 of saying that or # it just the regular way? 472: Yes regular old-fashioned Interviewer: #1 {D: Alright} # 472: #2 puking. # 472: You just puke. Interviewer: He just had to puke. 472: Yeah Interviewer: #1 {X} # 472: #2 that's # right. Interviewer: {NW} Somebody who's a {X} you say he's sick where? He's sick 472: He's sick to his stomach. Interviewer: Yeah. That's a bad way to be. 472: {NW} {NW} {X} I been all along the line Interviewer: Say if a if a boy keeps going over to the same girl's house pretty regular and the neighbors figure he's getting serious about her. You'd say that he's doing what? He's 472: {NW} Well I'd call it overdoing the thing. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 472: #2 he just # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 472: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: He 472: originally and we can have a little talk about that. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: Uh you know in my day with courting days I went at the weekend. Maybe I might run over a little while Saturday night. And we'd fix up dinner for Sunday go to church. And then I'd see her back home Sunday night that was about it. And now then uh practically every night uh they'll they'll do that. They'll run over to the neighbor or go to the girl's house or she'll go to his house. That's too much. If they are real sweet nice people that's still too much because they'll be where that they'll. Uh they just can't it just ain't right for 'em to be that way. Because it'll cause trouble. There'll come attractions they'll come up too much it's too much of a thing. They need to see one another just {X} regular e- every weekend I I think. Unless it's necessary for 'em to go over to the house to go to prayer meeting or something like that. Or some little uh birthday party or something like that. I'd just stay with 'em all the time cuz they cause trouble. According to the Bible you lust to the flesh is what does such harm That's where the harm comes in really. And uh we have to ward all of this. And if the old folks lets 'em go to each other go to each other like that too often liable to cause trouble. Best in this day and time there's so much over the television. Interviewer: Yeah. 472: They learned how to get by with. {X} just makes a bad thing of it. And if I had a young girl or boy they they they they'd have to listen to me. Now I just wouldn't let it I wouldn't allow it. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: Because I want things to keep smooth and that's the only way to do it. Got to keep it smooth. Interviewer: Right. What di- what does he ask her to marry him? If she didn't want him you'd say she did what to him? 472: Oh well she'd have to uh {NW} she'd just have to tell him that uh she didn't want to marry him. Interviewer: Turned him down or 472: Turned y- you yeah I'll I'll have to turn you down. You'll have to get somebody else I don't want to marry you. That's it Interviewer: I see yeah. 472: {X} It may it may work either way you see. The boy or the girl might not wanna marry. Interviewer: Well say if uh if they do get married you know the man who stands up with the groom at the wedding? What is he what would you call him? He's the 472: Bride and the groom. {NW} Interviewer: And the man who stands up with the groom he's the 472: Preacher. Interviewer: Is there another one called the uh the best man or something like that? 472: No. {X} {X} Interviewer: Around these parts did y'all ever have any kind of uh. You know after a wedding if the couple's not going off anywhere on a honeymoon a lotta people will just follow 'em back the house and kinda you know 472: {X} Interviewer: Right. You say you're having a 472: A a an initiating party. In other words initiating. Interviewer: What would go on in one of those? Have you ever been in on one of 'em? 472: No but I've heared a lot about 'em. Uh they generally take you and ride you on a pole. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Uh carry you on a pole uh. Put you in a barrel or there ain't no telling what they might do to you. You know just how {NW} Interviewer: {NW} {NS} Terrible thing to do at somebody's wedding. 472: Yeah. {X} they initiate you in this city just let you go through with rough things. And they just {X} overpower you there ain't to do about it but just take it. {X} Interviewer: {NW} 472: {NW} Yeah initiate you that's ca- what's it all about. Interviewer: Did people ever call that a chivalry or serenade? 472: Yeah they've called it uh chivalry uh yeah. Uh may I tell you a little something what I saw here at the store the other day. I saw a little slim man and he had something in his arm and I thought it was bird feed. I was standing way over you know? And I walked up to him I said what kinda bird what's that bird feed you got in your arm? He said no. Said that's rice. Rice? Yeah I seen it on the sack then got the name of it. {C: train whistle} And the little boy had two big five-pound bag he had. He had six or seven of 'em. And uh and then he told me what he's gonna do with that rice. He was going to initiate it at a wedding. Interviewer: Oh yeah. 472: That's right. And it {X} I told him I said {X} I love rice and then him throw all that rice away. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 472: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} {NW} Just throw it all over 'em. 472: Yeah uh waste it. {NW} Interviewer: Yeah. 472: But that was a sight now the look of that man standing there with all that much rice and just throw it away. Interviewer: That's too bad. 472: Yeah it's too bad {X} I I'd rather get a rock or something like that a small rock then go to waste {NW} Interviewer: You know if uh if young people get together and they have some music and the couples get out on the floor and move about you say they're having a 472: Having a party a dance Uh a waltzing. {X} you know be called many names you know. Be a waltzing. Interviewer: Did you ever do that much? 472: No but I saw saw uh saw people do it and my mother's told me a lot about waltzing. Interviewer: Oh. 472: And it's real nice it's real nice at that time to have music and waltz. Interviewer: Right. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: I see. 472: But now and then they come in for frolicking and then they come in to do mean things in other words too much whiskey. Interviewer: Oh. Yeah. 472: And fall off and let {X} mess it up the whole deal. {NW} And uh so I I don't I don't condemn nobody for frolicking if they're going to have a nice time like that and enjoy life but I wouldn't wanna uh uh en- enticing them to go to these places where there's whiskey. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: {X} Interviewer: Yes sir I see. 472: I believe in how past time uh really ought to do it. But not not in the wrong way. Interviewer: I see. Ask you about this expression say if it's uh if at three oh clock the children get out of school. You say at three oh clock school 472: School ends at three oh clock uh turns out at three oh clock. Interviewer: Yes sir. Right. Or if it's if it's been the summertime and school hasn't been in toward the end of the summer somebody might ask well when does school 472: Start. Yeah. Interviewer: I see. You know when a if a young boy leaves home and he's supposed to go to school but he never gets there on purpose you say he did what? 472: Uh let's see now well he's {NS} {X} you could call that several things. But uh he's playing hooky. Interviewer: Did you ever hear that? {NW} 472: No. Interviewer: {D: I don't think I} have either. 472: No never did hear I had a boy did it. Interviewer: Oh really? {NW} 472: I've got him to stake him up He ain't do it no more. Interviewer: What'd you have to do to him? I went down to {X} where he was to get out {X} I got my {X} I tanned him up real good about You gave him a 472: Whipping. And I {X} and I tried not to beat him too hard I just beat him a little bit to scare him. Told him I said don't make this happen no more I says {D: they won't own} put me in jail they'll put you in jail too. Interviewer: {NW} 472: I really thought it was true Interviewer: #1 {D: Yeah.} # 472: #2 you know? # Interviewer: {X} 472: He never did do it no more as I know of. Interviewer: That took care of it? 472: That took care of it. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 472: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Well when you when you start school when you begin school you go into the 472: First grade. Interviewer: And now a days instead of sitting at benches every child has his own 472: Own desk. Interviewer: And some rooms you just have a room full of those 472: Desks. {X} Yeah. Interviewer: Let me ask you about a 472: {D: Start coming to falling little disk} Interviewer: Right. {NW} 472: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} 472: Old fashioned Interviewer: Let me ask you about a a few buildings around town like if you wanted to check out a book you'd go down to the 472: Uh down to the books- uh store. Or book- uh Interviewer: Or if you just wanted to borrow it. 472: Yeah go down and borrow one which I did here in town. Borrowed one like that. Interviewer: Go to the public 472: Public uh library. Interviewer: And if you wanted to mail a package you'd go down to the 472: Post office. Interviewer: What about if somebody had to stay overnight in a strange town they'd stay at the 472: They'd stay at the hotel. Or motel. Or Interviewer: {X} Well what about if you wanted to see a movie or a play? You'd go to the 472: You'd go to the uh {C: tapping noise} uh {NS} {NS} uh I I I don't never keep that in my mind much theater. Interviewer: Yeah right. 472: {NW} Interviewer: You got one here in town? 472: Yep. Interviewer: Or if you wanted to catch a train you'd go down to the 472: Depot. Interviewer: Or the rail- 472: Railroad. Depot. Interviewer: You know in a lot of towns like Bay Minette you've got the businesses downtown, arranged around the courthouse? What do you what do you call that area right downtown? 472: Uh I would call it just a circle around the courthouse. Uh such and such businesses {X} such a corner or such a in the middle or somewhere right there Interviewer: I was just 472: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Yeah. I was just wondering if people around here called it the uh square or court square or 472: Yeah they uh around the square yeah. And the courthouse is on the square. And uh they call it around the square such a corner or such a place. Interviewer: I see. Well say if downtown you had a building that was sitting right here and you had another one right here you'd say this one was right across the street from this one but if this one was like right here. You'd say that this building was 472: Just a little below. Or above. Interviewer: Or it's not straight across it's 472: No it's just catty-cornered. Interviewer: Right. Right. Right. Right. You ever heard people say instead of catty-cornered say antigodlin or antigoglin 472: Yeah. Lots of times. Call it antigoglin {X} Interviewer: How would how would they use that? How would they say that word? 472: Well they'd just say it's kinda uh catty-cornered antigoglin across the street from one another. {X} Interviewer: It means the same thing? 472: Means the same thing. Interviewer: Have you ever ridden on these things that people used to use for transportation in the cities. They rode on rails and had a power from the wire overhead? 472: I sure have. Yeah I certainly have. Streetcars. Interviewer: Right. Where did you ride one? 472: Mobile. Went clean around on one uh took it clean around we took it clean around one time. We wanted to tell me something Interviewer: {NW} 472: {D: about that} how the colored people done it. About the paying you know? Interviewer: {NW} 472: How they scratch around in their purse for just one penny? Not one penny. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Didn't none of 'em do that and they done it that day {X} Interviewer: #1 Is that right? # 472: #2 {X} # {X} Interviewer: {NW} 472: {D: They just ain't got mad or anything.} You see I got to where I start to put 'em off. Interviewer: They just had to do that I 472: #1 Reckon # Interviewer: #2 guess. # 472: had to break it up they just see who they are and they not honest. You know, just one penny now, just a little old penny. Just think about that. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Yeah. Interviewer: And if you were riding on a bus you might tell the bus driver well now this next corner's where I want 472: Yeah is the next stop. I want to stop at this corner. Interviewer: {X} That's where I want to 472: Get off. Interviewer: Here in uh Bay Minette where you have the courthouse you'd say that Bay Minette is the 472: County seat. Interviewer: Uh-huh. I see. Now I've I've noticed that several counties around have two county seats. Have you ever heard of that? 472: No. I don't believe. Interviewer: #1 Some places # 472: #2 I have. # Interviewer: Do has uh two county seats. {NS} 472: Wow. {X} Interviewer: Got two courthouses in the county. 472: {X} had a {X} for anything. Interviewer: {NW} 472: #1 That's # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: one of 'em! Interviewer: They had that in Coffee County. Enterprise and uh Elba are the county seats in Coffee County. 472: Oh wow. Interviewer: Right across that in several counties in Mississippi. More than you think. 472: {NW} Interviewer: Well say a a man who has a a civil service job you say he works for the federal 472: Federal government. Interviewer: And what about the police in a town, you say they're supposed to maintain the 472: Maintain the town? Yeah. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Or the law 472: Or the law yeah. Uh they obey the law? Yeah they they supposed to maintain it. The law. Interviewer: Law and order? 472: And order. Yeah. Sorta like that makes me think about what I been hearing. Interviewer: What's that? 472: Said the uh the uh the world is upset {X} said the world is uh upset and outta order. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: It's not order no more. It's just about that way. {X} Interviewer: What do uh what do people around here call the war that uh occurred between the North and the South you know over a hundred years ago? That's the 472: Confederate {C: car horn honking} War. Interviewer: Ever heard it referred to as anything else? 472: {X} {NS} Interviewer: Spill something? 472: Well it's a little bit it's soaked. Interviewer: What is that? 472: {D: Mail ball} Interviewer: {NW} 472: #1 It's what # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: they used in the Confederate. Interviewer: That's a heavy little thing isn't it? What was that uh 472: However they had they would shoot it through Interviewer: What was that shot out of? 472: uh some kind of rifle. Interviewer: Where'd you find that? 472: Oh I think this one somebody give me this one but my daddy had a plum bunch of 'em and you can go down here to uh uh {X} no not Fort Morgan. Down at Heritage somewhere believe it is and you can find 'em in the ground. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Dig in the ground. Where they had the last battle. Interviewer: I see. That's interesting. 472: Yeah. {NW} Now here's a modern. Interviewer: Oh yeah. {NW} Got a clip. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Those things'll kinda mess you up I imagine. 472: That's right. Well I have several things I could show you in there but I back {NS} back when I was young. Interviewer: You know in the days before they had the electric chair you'd say that murderers were something wrong with your No I just {X} Oh. 472: Uh how was that now? Interviewer: Before you know they had the electric chair you'd say that murderers were 472: Were hanged. {C: train whistle} And on the gallows. {NS} {X} hanged to trees. {X} a lot of ems hanged just hanged to a tree. {NS} Interviewer: Or if a man was gonna commit suicide you'd say he went out and 472: Went out and committed suicide. Interviewer: Or he himself. 472: Hung himself. Yeah. Interviewer: Kind of a bad thing isn't it? 472: It really is. Interviewer: Do you ever does that ever happen in uh Bay 472: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Minette? # 472: they coming in here. Tear up my yard. Interviewer: #1 What's that? # 472: #2 {X} # {X} they just turn it around. Those uh Interviewer: Garbage 472: #1 Garbage # Interviewer: #2 trucks? # 472: trucks. Yeah. Make me want to {X} I just built that bank. Just had 'em to come in and then sweat you know Interviewer: {D: Grass snake.} 472: {X} Interviewer: {NW} Kinda mess it up. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Well when uh somebody goes to church you say that uh he goes to listen to the preacher preach a fine 472: Sermon. Interviewer: Ever heard that called anything else? A sermon or he preached a fine uh 472: Message. Interviewer: Message. Or some people will say they uh they also liked to go to church to listen to the beautiful 472: Uh beautiful message yeah. {D: Alright.} Hear the gospel. Interviewer: Or the choir #1 makes # 472: #2 Or the # choir makes yeah. Choir sing. Interviewer: Nice music. 472: Yeah. Choir. I have to go hear the nice music and choir singing and Interviewer: Yeah I see. What uh uh talking about if somebody has done you a favor. You might say well I sure am much to you. 472: I'm much obliged Interviewer: #1 Right. # 472: #2 to # you. Yeah. Interviewer: {X} I see. And if uh if a person has to go downtown to get some things, he says he needs to go downtown to do some 472: Shopping. Interviewer: Uh-huh. And if you buy something, the store keeper took a piece of paper and for you. 472: And he wrote it up for me. Interviewer: Or he wrapped 472: Wrapped it yeah wrapped it in the main thing Interviewer: And when you got home you 472: Unwrapped it. Interviewer: What about if uh if a store is selling things for less than what they paid for 'em. you'd say that he's selling at 472: At a sale. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Yeah. Discount. Interviewer: Right. Right. Or I guess would uh would that necessarily be uh he's selling at a loss? Do you reckon? 472: Yeah he's selling at a loss. At a discount. And he he he's losing on it. And {NW} some of 'em'll do that and make up on something else though. Interviewer: Oh {NW} 472: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # But he really not gaining much 472: No that's right. {NW} Interviewer: And if it's toward the uh it's time to pay the bill you say that the bill is 472: Due. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: And some people who are in clubs they have to pay their club 472: Dues. Club dues uh Interviewer: Or maybe call them due 472: {X} Interviewer: Do y'all have to pay dues? 472: Yeah in the {X} senior citizen. Interviewer: Oh that's right you 472: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Just fifty cents a month 472: {NW} Yeah. Interviewer: That's not bad dues. 472: No. But we get more than that. Interviewer: What about say if a man wanted to buy something that was pretty expensive and he didn't have enough money he might go to the bank or ask his banker if he could 472: Loan him {X} some money. Interviewer: He'd say I'd like to 472: Uh yeah I'd like to borrow it. So much money. Interviewer: and the banker might say well we'd like to give it to you but now a days money's mighty. 472: Mighty scarce. {NW} Interviewer: I see. You were talking about making {C: overlapping exterior audio} a springboard. Have you ever gone off one of those things into the water? 472: Never have. Interviewer: Really? 472: Never have. I've dove off of the bank. I never have off of a spring board Interviewer: {X} Well do you know how to 472: Swim. Interviewer: Do you do have you done that very much? 472: Not too much but I can swim. {D: Find} a pretty wide place I'll get out. {X} Interviewer: Has it you know if somebody gets in water and its too deep for 'em and they can't swim they might 472: Drown. Interviewer: Do you ever hear of that happening around here? 472: Yes sir. Happened down on the coast here a few days ago Interviewer: What did he get caught in the undertow or something like 472: Yeah. I think he did Got out too far {X} trying to trying to {X} they got them big old {X} way on out there you know? And that wind got up I think what happened. Best I learned and it throwed it out in the gulf. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: He was trying to go out there and get it. Interviewer: {NW} 472: It's more than he could do. Interviewer: He got out too far? 472: Yeah. Current got him. Interviewer: I see. 472: {X} Interviewer: You ever seen anybody dive in the water and just land flat right on their stomach, make a popping noise? 472: On the belly-buster. Interviewer: Right. 472: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: Yeah. Interviewer: {NW} That ever happen to you? 472: N- no. Uh-uh. Not that I know of. Interviewer: Well what about if a boy is playing out in the yard, he might tuck his head down between his legs and kick out his feet and go over you know? 472: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: Somersault {X} Interviewer: #1 Right. # 472: #2 they called? # 472: Yeah. Somersault. Interviewer: What about you know if you go into to a store to pay off your bill uh the storekeeper might give you a little something extra, just for paying it off? 472: Tip? Give you a tip. Yeah. {C: clears throat} Interviewer: Do they do that around here 472: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 much? # 472: No uh the people at uh these boys are mighty good here at this store back here {X} it makes me think about the in the buggy you know? {X} provision Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: Put in the car. And I see a lot of 'em get tips. They tip 'em lots. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: Quarter. Something like that. Uh-huh. Interviewer: I see. {NW} Okay. What would you say uh a baby what does a baby do before it's able to walk? 472: Crawls. Interviewer: Yeah. And now a days sometimes if a child is going to sleep, before he'll go to sleep right next to his bed you say he down and said his prayers 472: Kneels. Interviewer: {D: Uh-huh.} 472: Say his prayers. Interviewer: Do you reckon children still do that? 472: Some few. Some few do. Interviewer: I see. 472: Not too many. Interviewer: When you're sleeping, you know do you ever see things in your sleep you know, you say that you're you begin to 472: Dream. {NW} dreamed last night. Interviewer: You don't ever do you ever have nightmares or 472: No. I don't have any but I have dreams and visions. Interviewer: Yeah, you were telling me about that the other day. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Say if a boy you know meets a girl at a party and he wants to make sure that she gets home alright. He might ask her, well may I 472: Take you home. May I see you home? And I have a little something I'd like to tell you on that line. Interviewer: Okay. 472: {NW} Just comes to my mind. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: I asked a girl would you care for a boy of my complexion to go in your direction to be your perfection? Interviewer: {NW} 472: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 472: How about that? Interviewer: Hey I'm putting that down. 472: {NW} Interviewer: Say would you care 472: If a boy of my complexion to go your direction to be your perfection. {NW} Interviewer: You really told that to somebody? 472: {NW} Oh well {NW} {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 472: #2 {NW} # {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 472: #2 {NW} # 472: That's pretty good. Interviewer: That's pretty good. 472: Yeah that's {NW} Interviewer: I don't see {X} 472: Sly way sly way of asking her to let me go home with her. Interviewer: I don't see how she could turn you down after that. 472: Uh okay you promised her a whole lot {X} Interviewer: {NW} 472: #1 If she # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: likes your complexion. Interviewer: {NW} 472: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {D: That's funny.} # 472: {NW} Interviewer: {NW} {NW} well say if uh some children were playing around in the kitchen the woman might say well now that stove's hot so don't 472: Touch it. Be careful don't touch that stove. Interviewer: {D: Right.} When uh when you were growing up did you ever play a game where you chased each other you know a game of tag or something like that? 472: Yeah and uh snap we used to called it snap. Interviewer: What was that? 472: Snap yeah. Playing snap. Uh you'd take uh let's see you take a handkerchief and put two together right standing together you know and play snap. And run around one another like that. But it's really called tag. Snap and tag are about the same thing. Interviewer: Was there a place that you could run to to be safe where they couldn't get you? 472: Well now that's that's another game that's what uh what we call stealing sticks. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Or stealing hogs or stealing whatever you wanna call it. And we draw a line and uh we all come up to the line and we got a ring about that chair with sticks in it and and Mr or Mrs go uh make a dart go out there and get one y- you beat her to it. You won't let her get it you see. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: She can't get to it if she beats you there uh. uh she gets a stick but if you don't you tag her so she can't go back across her line on the other side. {X} Until the whole game's played out. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 472: #2 {X} # Interviewer: call that place that you ran to the goal or home base or 472: Uh no in my town they just called it a line. Interviewer: {D: Right} 472: Beat to the line. Yeah. Interviewer: I see yes. Say if uh if you have a man who's working for you except he's not doing a very good job. You might say well old so-and-so hasn't been doing his job it looks like I'm gonna have to get 472: Get rid of him. Interviewer: {D: Right.} 472: Or turn him off. Interviewer: #1 {X}- # 472: #2 Dis- # card him. Interviewer: Right. Now a man who just smiles a lot has nice things to say about people you say well uh he sure seems to be in a good 472: Good mood. Interviewer: {X} Or he has a good sense of 472: Of good sense of uh {X} to be a nice fellow. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Or a good sense of humor? 472: Of humor yeah. {D: That's it} {X} Interviewer: What about uh if a boy leaves his best pen out on his desk and he leaves the room and when he comes back it's gone? 472: Somebody {X} you would say somebody stole his pen. {X} Uh {X} somebody borrowed it only whether they'll bring it back or not. Interviewer: {NW} That's one way of getting around saying he stole it. 472: {NW} Interviewer: Yeah. Say if uh if you write somebody you might say uh after you write the letter, you take the envelope and you do what to it? 472: Address it. Interviewer: And you might say well I'd like to write old so-and-so but I just don't know his 472: Address. Interviewer: And if you go to all of that trouble of writing him a letter you expect to get a 472: hearing Interviewer: I beg your pardon? 472: You you you expect to hear from him. Interviewer: You expect 472: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 to get an # answer? 472: And that's a return. Interviewer: Right. I see. Now when you were a child did y'all ever was there ever another child that always went around telling on other children? 472: Uh yeah. Yeah. Interviewer: What'd you call that? 472: A tattletale Interviewer: Right. 472: {NW} {NW} Yeah I remember that. Interviewer: I don't imagine they were too popular where they? 472: That little old tattletale. Interviewer: {C: clears throat} Or say if uh if you wanted to brighten up your house a little bit and you had some flowers growing outside. you might say well I think I'm going to go outside and 472: I was watching the people over there. Uh how was that now? Oh if you had some flowers growing outside and you wanted to brighten up your room a little bit you might say well I think I'm going to go outside and Get get a bouquet. Interviewer: Or pick some 472: Pick some flowers and bring 'em in the Interviewer: What about these things that uh a little child plays with you say he just has a room full of 'em. 472: Toys. Interviewer: Ever heard those called anything else? He's got a lot of toys or a lot of uh 472: Uh uh {X} yeah he's got a lotta play things. Interviewer: Play things. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Right. Or say if if a boy was outside with a ball and bat and he just took that bat and hit that ball through somebody's window. You might say well he didn't that wasn't an accident he did that 472: On purpose. On purpose. Interviewer: Right. Or say if uh if somebody accidentally was fooling around with a big knife he accidentally did what to himself? 472: Stuck it stuck it in his leg. {X} {D: stuck it in his} {X} Interviewer: Or stabbed 472: Stabbed hisself yeah. Interviewer: Have you got any what would you call a a big knife that you might use around the kitchen? 472: A butcher butcher knife. {X} A butcher knife. Interviewer: That'd be pretty dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Yes sir. Or have you ever had to uh if you had a real heavy weight you had to lift up on the roof or something you might've had to rig up a block and tackle and that thing up? 472: Uh heist it up. Yeah. Heist it up. Interviewer: Right. 472: {NS} Yeah I got a block and tackle. Interviewer: Do you? 472: Yeah. Small one. Interviewer: What do you use it 472: #1 {D: Thousand} # Interviewer: #2 for? # 472: pounds. Uh pick up things that I need to pick up and I can't manage by myself. Interviewer: {X} 472: Uh two days ago I had to renew uh the foundation under my washpot out there. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: And it's heavy. I didn't do nothing but just straddle it with that ladder and put my block and tackle on it. And just raised it right on up and fixed the foundation of it back down. {X} But I couldn't never do it by myself {D: anyway} Interviewer: I see. Yeah. 472: Block and tackle you know. {X} Interviewer: You were telling me about those uh different kind of plows that people used to use? What did you call those rows that were cut out by the plow? 472: Uh we call we call 'em uh furrows. Interviewer: Right. 472: Open up the fur- Interviewer: Right. I see. {X} Or say if a farmer had a piece of land with a lot of bushes and trees on it, and he wanted to put it {X} to cultivate you say he did what to it? 472: Cleared it up. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: To clear it up. Interviewer: Yeah. Ever heard of of a piece of land that'd just been cleared called anything? 472: New ground. Interviewer: {X} Right. {X} What a- what about if a crop comes up in a field even though you didn't plant it there you'd say that was a 472: Well that would be a miracle if if it's it's vegetables. {NW} Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 472: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NW} Right. Ever heard people use the word volunteer? Uh yeah. Uh-huh. We have volunteer plants around the places. Uh they'd come up voluntary just talking about the tomato if it comes up the third year the same seed come back. {X} third year. At the end they're tommy-toe. Little small 472: #1 ones. # Interviewer: #2 Right. # Interviewer: Oh I see {X} About around here about how much uh corn and uh to an acre would you say is a good yield? 472: I wouldn't hardly know about how much to an acre. {X} Uh shelled corn I guess it'd be about five bushels I imagine. Interviewer: About five bushels? 472: Yeah. Interviewer: {X} 472: To an acre. Good corn. Interviewer: Yeah. Did uh people around here ever uh grow wheat? 472: Oh yeah. {X} Interviewer: do still? 472: {X} Interviewer: Whe- when they cut the wheat what do they tie it up into? 472: Bundles. Interviewer: Do p- do people around here talk about uh shocking wheat or a shock of wheat? 472: Uh yeah the- they shock it and then uh they move it. Haul it. {X} They'll shock it and it'll stay there very long. Interviewer: {X} 472: They have to move it inside the barn so it doesn't get wet in the rain. Interviewer: I see. Say if if you got some oats and you 472: #1 {C: clears throat} # Interviewer: #2 want # you wanna separate the uh uh the grain from the chaff you say you did what to the oats? You 472: Uh you you have to thrash 'em. Thrash it out. Interviewer: Right. 472: Thrashing machine. Interviewer: You ever operated one of those? 472: Never have. Interviewer: I see {X} Let me ask you about uh a few expressions. Say if uh if we happen to do a job together you'd say that and that and had to do this. 472: Yeah. Me and so-so whatever his name is {X} we would have to do this together. {X} It takes two to do this. Interviewer: #1 Right. # 472: #2 Instead # of one. Interviewer: Right. In other words it's it's not just one of us it's 472: It's it's two operating it together. Interviewer: Or both. 472: Or both yeah. Both cooperating together. Interviewer: Say if you wanted to identify yourself without using your name. If you went over to somebody's house and knocked on his door and he called out well who's that? And you knew that he was going to recognize your voice you might say. Oh open the door it's just 472: It's just me {X} Interviewer: Right. {NW} Or this expression if you're comparing how tall you are you might say well he's not as tall as 472: {NW} Yeah as the other person. Or if you were comparing you yourself to somebody you might say well he's not as tall as I am. Interviewer: Or if it were the other way around you might say well I'm not as tall as 472: He is. Interviewer: Right. Or talking about how well you can do something you might say that uh he can do it better than 472: Than I Interviewer: Right. 472: or I can. Interviewer: Right. Okay. Oh when we were talking about uh bacon the other day I meant to ask you when you slice off a piece of bacon sometimes there's a real tough edge to it you know that you might want to cut off. What would you call that? {X} 472: Uh {NW} well there's a we we named this piece of bacon the middling. Or belly. Side belly. Or I sometimes we get I have saw where that they uh get this meat to slice off and uh where the tits was would be a hard place. Interviewer: {NW} A little hard in the middling that's what it was. {X} lotta lotta lotta lotta {X} but it's just tougher there than anywhere else. {D: Right.} 472: And uh we just cut that off see all that's the old uh where the old sow piggy was #1 something # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: like that it came off. It's the hard place. Interviewer: Yeah I see. 472: Um Interviewer: you ever hear of people talk about not being able to chew that bacon rind or skin or 472: Too tough. Yeah. Interviewer: Is that what they're calling it the uh 472: Yeah. Tough. Too tough. Interviewer: Is it the rind or 472: Tough uh Skin no they just call it skin. Interviewer: Skin. 472: That old skin too tough. Interviewer: I see. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: {X} say if if you kept meat uh too long, you'd stay the meat's done what? 472: Spoiled. Or some people can just where it's a little tainted they'll say oh it's rotten. But it ain't. It's just {NW} Just tainted tainted, that's a matter of fact. Interviewer: Can can meat be strong without being spoiled? 472: Yeah. That's called old age. You keep it too long it gets strong. And some of it well it uh eventually rust. Interviewer: {NW} 472: Form a rust. Uh you can keep meat salted down for very long. Just dry salt. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: It'll rust real fast. Interviewer: {NW} {X} 472: {X} Interviewer: Right. I see. Yeah. What about well what about butter that's gotten that way you know you say the butter's 472: Butter's too old {C: clears throat} needs uh reworking. You can rework it and then wash it through the water rework it and it's re-salt it and it'd be just about as f- good as fresh! Interviewer: I see. 472: It helps. Interviewer: Yeah. 472: Put that in the cold water. Interviewer: You ever heard of people talking about bad butter use the word funky? They say it's 472: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: smells funky. Taste is funky yeah I've heard that a lot of the time. Interviewer: Yeah. 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah. I see. Have you ever had a something for dessert that was made with oh either apple slices or maybe peach slices that have a nice thick crust to it and you cook it in a deep dish? 472: It's called a pie. Interviewer: Is there anything else kind of like that uh 472: But nowadays Interviewer: Got a crust all the way through it? 472: No it's it's either a peach pie or pear pie or apple pie. Interviewer: What about a cobbler? 472: Uh they call it they call it uh a pea- a peach cobbler. Yeah. And they call that {X} I guess that's the modern name. {X} Interviewer: #1 Cobbler? # 472: #2 {X} # 472: Yeah cobbler. Interviewer: I see. 472: {X} {X} Interviewer: Say if somebody has a real good appetite you might say well old so-and-so likes to put away his 472: His food {X} him can eat. {X} Or it'll put away a lotta food. Interviewer: You ever hear people around here use the word vittle? 472: Vittle? Yeah yeah. Take a lot of vittles for him. Interviewer: {NW} 472: {NW} Interviewer: Right I see. Or say if you're eating food between regular meals you say you're having a 472: Uh having a break or uh a lunch. Or uh snack. Interviewer: Right. 472: Yeah snack is better Interviewer: Well talking about food what ki- if you were going to uh pour some sweet liquid over a pudding or a pie what would that be? You'd call that a 472: Well I I'd think I'd uh more or less I'd be fixing up a dessert. In other words uh that's the way I see it it it'd be sweet. Be liken to a dessert. But you can put different kinds of sweets on there. Honey syrup uh sugar. Most everything is sweet. Interviewer: Would you call that a sauce or a dip or a 472: Well they they do they name it now I mean they call stuff like that sauce or stuff. Sauce to put on there. The best I know. Interviewer: I see. {X} Say if if you you were having some people over for a meal and uh they were just all standing around the table and you didn't want 'em to keep standing you might say well why don't y'all go ahead and 472: And sit down? Interviewer: Right. 472: {X} Interviewer: Or if uh you didn't want 'em to wait until something was passed to 'em you'd say well now just go ahead and 472: Help yourself. Interviewer: Right. Right. What if what if you were invited over for a meal at somebody's house and somebody passed you something that you just could not could not eat what would you say? 472: Uh thank you I I wouldn't care for that. Interviewer: I see. Are there any kinds of food that you just don't like? 472: Well not {X} not too many. They would be a few but not too many. {X} Interviewer: I see. 472: Yeah. Uh I think the very to to to just put the peanut in the hull about such as anything that I eat uh like soups or or greens or beans or peas cooked and to put sugar in 'em. I'd rather see you pour 'em in the garbage can. Interviewer: {NW} 472: I don't want no sweets in nothing I eat like that. Uh I I don't care for that I just I'd rather see it go in the garbage. Just try to eat it. Because that little sweet is is sickening to me. I'd rather have it plain. Have it seasoned good for whatever you season it with don't have that {X} Some people w- wants that sugar and stuff. They just think it makes it real fine you know. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: It's funny how people have different appetites. {X} Interviewer: It sure is. 472: It's just like that. Interviewer: It sure is. Yeah. Well what about uh food that's been uh heated and served a second time? You say you're having 472: We're having a left-over. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 472: When it's reheated. Interviewer: Right. Right I see. Have you ever eaten anything like mush? 472: Yeah. I like mush. Interviewer: What is that exactly? 472: Well I'm trying to think of the name of this here you can buy it. Cream of wheat. That's a mush. Interviewer: Yes sir. 472: Yeah that'll be a mush {X} Interviewer: I see. Yeah. Say if I have on a belt that's made out of cowhide and it's it's uh not artificial cowhide I might say well now this isn't artificial cowhide this is 472: This is real leather. Interviewer: In other words it's gen- 472: Genuine genuine. It'd be genuine cowhide. Interviewer: Right. 472: Genuine. Interviewer: Right. 472: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 472: Genuine leather yeah or or cowh- whatever you wanna call it leather. Interviewer: Yeah. 472: {X} Interviewer: Well what about sometimes when people are eating breakfast if they're had a hot toast they'll like to spread on some 472: Butter. Interviewer: And some 472: And some uh Interviewer: #1 {X} # 472: #2 mayonnaise. # Interviewer: Or some blackberry 472: Jelly. Jam. Interviewer: Do you like that with uh 472: I bear with it. I like that right there Interviewer: I see. And things that people have on their table to season their food with they have shakers for 472: They have salt shakers and pepper shakers. And then they have shakers filled with uh grated onions. You can put on it with Interviewer: Right. What wou- what would you call a a lot of fruit trees growing together? You'd say you have a big 472: Big fruit orchard. Interviewer: For what? 472: Fruit orchard. Interviewer: I see. Do y'all have uh many peaches growing around here? Not many no. The trees get up about grow and then die. Or uh an old worm gets in 'em and uh kills 'em. Right. What would you call that hard inside part of a peach? 472: Uh the peach seed. Interviewer: Right. Do you remember the kinda tree that uh Washington was supposed to have cut down? 472: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: see I did know but I done forgot. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 472: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Cherry? 472: Cherry tree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you call that hard inside part of a cherry? 472: Well it's called a seed. Interviewer: Seed too? 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Do y'all have these uh kind of peaches around here where the the meat of the peach is real tight against the seed? 472: That's what you call uh uh Call it in a minute just give me a little time to think of it. Crest seed. Call it a crest-seed peach and then there's a clear-seed peach. And we're getting the clear-seed now. Interviewer: Right. 472: First one was crest-seed. Interviewer: I see. I see. 472: Crest seed. Interviewer: What about that inside part of an apple that's left after you've eaten around it? 472: Core. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Yeah. Do people around here ever take uh slice up peaches or apples and let 'em dry? 472: Yeah they do. Or did yeah while back if I I heared 'em talk about. Interviewer: What do they use 'em for? 472: Uh they use 'em to cook or cereal black black cereal for breakfast you can uh like these dried apples you get in the store you know you can fix 'em more and uh cook 'em for breakfast. Interviewer: {NW} 472: They they keep dry. Interviewer: {D: Uh-huh.} I see. Yeah. Well what kinda nuts grow around here? 472: Walnut. Hickory nut. Pecan. And uh {NW} what I ha- acorns uh. And that's about it I believe. Interviewer: You got any almonds? 472: No we don't have {X} Interviewer: Don't have those 472: Uh {X} Interviewer: Do have you ever seen uh maybe somebody left an apple out in the hot sun it would dry up and 472: Shrivel. Interviewer: It's just not good for anything anymore I reckon. 472: No it's soon go away I reckon. Interviewer: {X} 472: Dry. Interviewer: {X} 472: And then rot. Interviewer: {NW} Say if if you wanted to send me to the store to get some lettuce you'd tell me to go to the store to get 472: I'm gonna get me some uh lettuce. Interviewer: Or get two 472: Two heads of lettuce. Interviewer: Yeah. 472: {NW} Interviewer: You ever refer you ever hear a man say that he had so many heads of children? 472: {NW} Yeah. {X} seven or eight, ten, whatever it was. How would he say that? I've got me Interviewer: Oh I've got uh ten head {X} I got ten heads a yonder. Ten head of children. Ten head of 'em boys and girls together. Ever heard him say he had a whole passel? 472: No I never have heard that Interviewer: Hadn't heard that word? 472: No passel no Interviewer: But you have heard of head? Yeah? 472: Yeah. Interviewer: Have you ever smoked? 472: Yeah. Interviewer: What did you smoke? 472: Uh mostly Prince Albert. Interviewer: Is that uh 472: #1 Roll # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 472: roll my own cigarettes. Interviewer: {D: Uh-huh.} {X} Say these people that smoke these old thick brown uh 472: Cigars. I have smoked them too they're pretty strong. Interviewer: Yeah. 472: {X} Interviewer: They sure do smell 472: Yep. Interviewer: mighty strong. 472: I don't mind smelling 'em now {C: silence}