Interviewer:  {X}
503:  {X}
Interviewer:  Well there's another new one I I've never heard. #1 {X} #
503:  #2 {D: Glad to have you.} #
Interviewer:  uh-huh It's uh it was about this big #1 right? And you #
503:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  just throw it up and
503:  Yeah well that's a swamp hook. {D: I would expect of course you to talk about it} but uh this uh this c- can hook is turn it {D: But that that was a swamp hook I #1 {D: might have used.} #
Interviewer:  #2 Swamp hook. #
503:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. #
503:  That was a that was just a long piece of rod {D: and crooked} and uh just hook it over a log and {X} pull on it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  {D: Now that ain't useful on it.}
Interviewer:  Uh you have uh uh I guess uh as kids they used to see how much strength they had and how far they could throw it and. {NW} {X} Uh how would you get uh if the bottom had uh wet s- wet places or water standing how would you get the water out uh?
503:  Well you'd just have to wait 'til it dries out {D: if the water's high.}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. You didn't try to to uh run it off #1 {X} #
503:  #2 No. # Not not too much of it.
Interviewer:  And uh did you ever swamp? could you use any swamp or uh
503:  Oh yeah well we had uh couldn't {X} swamp all the way around home but uh That and {X} wasn't nothing but a {D: bottom} you know and so water'd get all over the field down here sometimes. And uh you just had to wait 'til that water had gone down.
Interviewer:  I see.
503:  Course they had put a canal {D: coulda done that} but then uh wasn't all land when they rode up you know so it's water was backed up on on his base anyway.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. Now is the water come right if you had a canal to take the water on but it was also letting the water back in oh yeah I see uh. {X} What kind of uh different sorts of land do you have uh uh what kind of land did you did you grow what was the best land uh?
503:  well the {X} it wasn't called a black land is the best.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
503:  Now red hill ground is hard to beat too. And um white rabbit ground there's not much to it.
Interviewer:  But um somebody t- told me about buckshot land.
503:  Buckshot? Well that's that's gravel.
Interviewer:  Is that uh Is that a white?
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
503:  #1 Uh that is buckshot. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
503:  White gravel.
Interviewer:  What's uh do you have gumbo around here?
503:  Well we don't have much of it around here that's true down in the bottom I think. Down up an old river.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and uh if I understand gumbo is is good land but
503:  #1 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # it's hard to see somebody told me that uh you you've gotta be gotta {X} down and and work it.
503:  That's right.
Interviewer:  Uh that it's wet.
503:  That that's what you that's what you say uh you take some {X} better get in there tomorrow.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh {X} gets too
503:  #1 Yeah that's right. Get #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
503:  too hard.
Interviewer:  And did you ever hear of loam?
503:  Loam?
Interviewer:  Uh
503:  Yes sir.
Interviewer:  Now is that buckshot land or uh?
503:  Well I I don't know. Loan you see that that's not like uh loaning and buying money or anything like
Interviewer:  #1 that. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # You know I I think they say uh loamy land like buckshotty land.
503:  {X} I've never heard of that.
Interviewer:  I'm not sure exactly what it means but uh I've heard it. #1 now do they say #
503:  #2 I don't # I don't think I know what that means um.
Interviewer:  And uh do you uh will you tell me how you break land uh uh what kind of plow you use and uh.
503:  Well you use a you used to use a two horse plow, one horse plow. And uh just uh you cut your oar down or shove 'em down with a plow. and um it was {D: long time four inch disk but r- I reined 'em} when I was growing up. But {NW} in a way you go out and uh on a roll and shimmy down there with a one horse plow. and kinda get it on a level and I'll tell you a one horse plow then a two horse plow they didn't uh break it just all the way around.
Interviewer:  I see. If you had a two horse uh plow uh what did you call the horse on the left? Did you have a name for him uh?
503:  Oh yeah we we had uh names for all of 'em as far as that's #1 concerned. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh # but I mean would he be the lead horse or uh?
503:  Yeah yeah. {D: I think I'd repeat it to him.}
Interviewer:  On on the left? And then
503:  You'd tell him tell him {D: yee in his} he'd push the other in his #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 I see {D: in a way} he was the boss. #
503:  Yeah I think. {C: laughing}
Interviewer:  Uh after you uh uh you take the the plow uh how deep would you dig uh?
503:  Well about six inches.
Interviewer:  Six inches. And just turn it to?
503:  Yeah. {D: just turn it to.}
Interviewer:  Uh and how would you then
503:  Well you could uh hag or or take a drag and drag it. And then uh you're probably just making middle busters. Where you put two mules to it and uh take 'em all the time and see it to spread it out. You could get her all the time by the way.
Interviewer:  Oh I see and um middle buster then would not go as far down?
503:  No. It wouldn't go d- wouldn't go down as well you could put put it as deep as as six inches if you wanted to.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  But uh it'd go down uh it well well there's one that was middle of them that just build it out there you see and you come back on the other side and make the row.
Interviewer:  I see.
503:  And then um when you'd got it planted come back out then with a scraper and scrape on one side then you go back up to the other end on the other side {NW} walk it.
Interviewer:  I see.
503:  And uh the choppers then'd come on behind you.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  And then uh you take a shovel down after it crashed out little bit and shelled it on roads. {D: Had rows the time.}
Interviewer:  Uh the scraper would uh get rid of the weeds is #1 that? #
503:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And the choppers what would they do?
503:  Yeah they chop the cotton.
Interviewer:  Chop the?
503:  Grass and weeds out of the cotton that leaves with sound cotton.
Interviewer:  Oh in between?
503:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh I see. Um. And it was all by by hand?
503:  #1 Yeah that's right. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
503:  Yeah you right about that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh.
503:  Now there's uh this day and time there's not much chopping going on.
Interviewer:  It's all machinery
503:  That's right.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. The um but the middle buster then uh I'm not sure I get that straight. Middle buster would make it a uh?
503:  A row.
Interviewer:  A row. Uh-huh. Would you ever call it would that be a furrow then or?
503:  Well it it would be a furrow in that in the middle there where it where it went you know if you had laid that dirt out.
Interviewer:  I see.
503:  And then you'd come back on the other side then well it would row it up.
Interviewer:  I see and cover it over
503:  Yes.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. If you uh planted grass and you cut it uh once what would you call the next crop uh?
503:  {D: You call that.}
Interviewer:  Yeah if you would uh plant some grass um and uh then you'd cut it early in spring #1 how? #
503:  #2 That # that'd be the second cutting for it.
Interviewer:  And uh when about when would that come uh?
503:  Probably it'd come uh so once out here cut it the first time but {X}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh well you know when you get two three crops.
503:  Yeah. {D: Well somebody would say pick t- two} {D: cr- uh two crops.}
Interviewer:  And uh you could uh could you count on that pretty much uh?
503:  Well I oh did. To haunt anything
Interviewer:  Mm. The uh you mentioned uh scraping the cotton what kind of uh weeds did you did you have to gr- {D: grow up} with?
503:  Well just uh
Interviewer:  #1 The same things? #
503:  #2 {X} # wood and grass.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh the same thing that you get now
503:  That's right.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh do you think that cockleburs are worse now than they used to be or not?
503:  Well. I have been too far in the woods and for several years but uh they they say it's pretty bad.
Interviewer:  Somebody uh told me that that the uh these machines that clean beans
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  go along and plant #1 cockleburs. #
503:  #2 Yeah. # {D: Planting silk} {D: Right.}
Interviewer:  {X} I guess you kind of uh.
503:  Yeah uh these uh combines you see uh it uh saves your beans The- they get a lot of cockleburs in them too.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
503:  And uh it's it's rather hard labor to get 'em all out.
Interviewer:  Mm. Well you you seem to think the machine is gone along and planted #1 cockleburs. #
503:  #2 Yeah I # imagine I imagine so. {NW}
Interviewer:  Um.
503:  {NW}
Interviewer:  When you uh when you take some uh corn in to have it ground how much would you take in uh?
503:  well you could go whether you wanted uh {D: had more than a quarter} you want. If uh you wanted to make cornbread well one minute folks carried over half bush- a bushel.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
503:  Carry it to the mill and have a pound of corn you know that it take out little uh {D: tool you know.}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm yeah.
503:  {X}
Interviewer:  How much is a turn? How much uh how much corn would be a turn of corn?
503:  Turn of corn?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  Uh I think a thousand pounds. I mean two thousand pounds.
Interviewer:  Two tons.
503:  Two tons.
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
503:  #2 No that's # thousand pounds.
Interviewer:  Oh s-
503:  Thousand pounds that's right.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh uh and uh after how would you buy uh wheat flour how would you how would you buy that?
503:  Well they used to buy it in the bag.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  But uh they got so mad about five pounds. {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh before they uh when you went to the store before they had it packaged {X} like they have now uh you could get five pounds and you'd just get it out of the barrel is that uh?
503:  No uh {D: well there's a lot I know about that} I know uh I know what number the five pound gotta weigh I don't think. twenty-five pound bag I would guess is the least allegory. #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
503:  even now. But my I think I'm I'm certain now that {X} the five pounds {D: goes scoops that in a} little bag.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  And I I reckon they've uh they put it in little bags all the time.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
503:  Uh I reckon I don't know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Uh how did molasses come how could you buy molasses?
503:  Well that's uh that's a thing a fella can grow too. A farmer can grow that.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  And they did grow it on a farm.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
503:  But the uh the farmer raid it and stretch it and uh hauled it to the mill and here the mill so was able to make it up you know so they'd put it in kegs and barrels and jugs or whatever they have and carry it on home.
Interviewer:  I see. Um um you'd uh let's see to make molasses you'd have to to uh press out the?
503:  Yeah. Yeah you'd that's run through a sorghum mill.
Interviewer:  What would you call um?
503:  And it's got two big uh wheels on it and uh they press it together. And uh that's used to draw it on out to the pan and then they cook it.
Interviewer:  Mm. Um what would the uh is this uh would it be on a flat pan or?
503:  Oh yeah cook it yeah.
Interviewer:  And uh
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  and just boil it #1 down? #
503:  #2 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
503:  #2 that's right. #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  What you call a sorghum pan.
Interviewer:  I see. Um what uh they'd they'd have a have a boiler or {D: fire} would they or?
503:  They had a had a pit made under that pan to keep it filled up with wood and now I imagine some of 'em now cook spaghetti maybe.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. How would they draw out the smoke uh?
503:  They'd have a {X} on the end of it.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  About as high as that door maybe not #1 {D: quite as high.} #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: Interesting.} # I see. So the none of the smoke or anything get #1 {X} #
503:  #2 Oh no. #
Interviewer:  #1 through the uh #
503:  #2 Oh no. #
Interviewer:  {D: molasses.} And uh did you ever see did you ever did they make make barrels around here uh?
503:  No sir. I don't think they made any around here. I don't know where they made {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. I was wondering uh if had the staves and they had wrap uh.
503:  I don't know. I don't know where they made any.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. How did you uh if you bought a uh had some molasses either uh bought it or you made it uh how would you keep it on the table?
503:  Well I have uh have what you call a lasses molasses pitcher.
Interviewer:  I see. Uh do you remember as a boy would you always have that on the table?
503:  Yes sir.
Interviewer:  You would?
503:  I've got it on there right now yeah. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Uh you use it uh for what? Uh.
503:  Just to eat with pudding biscuit and cornbread or {X} either way you want.
Interviewer:  I see uh.
503:  Uh majority of the people now they gets their their sorghum from Benton county up there it's it's it's better sorghum that they make some real good sorghum up #1 there. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm. #
503:  And then they end up not too many folks raise it around here now.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. I guess molasses is is good for you s- #1 {X} #
503:  #2 Yeah it sure I've # I'll be eating #1 all my life. #
Interviewer:  #2 Good for your b- # good for your blood uh.
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  {X} um How would you uh do you have pepper sauce on the table?
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  Yeah you put some uh {D: I can't add call it vinegar now} {X} they would go together and um {D: you'll have a} bowl or something
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  That's called pepper sauce.
Interviewer:  {D: Sauce.} Do you uh plug the bottle with a cork #1 or uh? #
503:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  And the cork was the cork hard to to get?
503:  Well uh I don't know about that now uh I just use regular at home all the time and now what's it called uh good ol' uh regular something to put in you know.
Interviewer:  #1 Uh. #
503:  #2 Uh. # And uh it's got a glass outfit to it.
Interviewer:  Oh I
503:  Up down it.
Interviewer:  uh-huh kinda stoppled?
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And you mentioned uh the paper bags uh for flour now uh do you remember how they used to to uh uh what kind of bags did they used to have way back? #1 {X} #
503:  #2 Well # the biggest I ever remember about is uh fifty pound sacks.
Interviewer:  What would they be made out of?
503:  They'll be made out of cloth.
Interviewer:  And what {X} uh is that a tow sack?
503:  No and uh that was just a regular flour sack they called it and uh it was made out of cloth.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  Some kinda cloth I don't know what kinda.
Interviewer:  What do what do uh people mean when they talk about a tow sack or crocker sack?
503:  well that's uh that's where you all it is is a potatoes things such as that comes in you know.
Interviewer:  Is that a
503:  Tow sack I w- uh yeah. #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
503:  That's uh that's right.
Interviewer:  I see be cheaper than
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  regular cloth.
503:  Yeah you know uh.
Interviewer:  I see. Did you have paper sacks when you were a boy uh?
503:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Did you ever have any paper sacks or #1 paper s- #
503:  #2 Yes sir. # Yes sir.
Interviewer:  They didn't always have 'em.
503:  Yeah uh-huh.
Interviewer:  And so you mentioned uh the creek that uh let's see here grandparents lived on the other side of the creek right? Um what uh uh what's the small or what's something smaller than a creek uh? #1 Uh. #
503:  #2 {X} # branch.
Interviewer:  Branch is smaller than #1 that uh #
503:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh you have anything that you'd call a pond a bayou bayou around here?
503:  No. No.
Interviewer:  Guess that's a little closer to the river. Yeah. And uh suppose the uh rain washes a place out of the bank uh what's that what do you call that thing uh?
503:  Well that's just a washout. {D: Right.}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and uh you've got some hills around here but you guess you don't really have any uh anything you'd call a mountain right?
503:  No we uh don't no have no mountains nope. {D: Here and now.} #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. # They uh they gotta working in Mississippi there's a place there's a town there called Blue Mountain.
503:  Is it?
Interviewer:  And I can't find the mountain I just.
503:  {NW} I r- I know about that town I've heard about it and I read about it too.
Interviewer:  Uh it's uh it's pretty flat down #1 there. #
503:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Su- I'd suppose it's just a little kind of a hill one they one they called a mountain. And uh would you tell me about the trees that you remember uh uh trees that you had mostly around here uh what kind of trees would you find in
503:  Well
Interviewer:  the woods?
503:  all of 'em. Oak and elm. There's two mighty good wood.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  For wood. And uh there's not very much popular now there used to be. And that used to make mighty good stove wood better for cooking.
Aux 1:  Pokers you see.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  There's not too much wood burnt now this day and #1 time. #
Interviewer:  #2 Oh # most it's too hard to come by.
503:  Yeah it is. {NW}
Interviewer:  Uh did you ever have um um buttonball or sycamore or tree uh?
503:  Now what kind?
Interviewer:  Uh did you ever hear of a buttonball or buttonwood tree? Some people it may be the same thing as a sycamore uh but you you have those uh.
503:  I don't know that I've ever heard of that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And uh I've seen some magnolias around #1 here uh #
503:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  let me ask you did you ever hear folks call that a cucumber tree?
503:  I've heard of that.
Interviewer:  Is that right?
503:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. # Uh.
503:  But I I don't know. I've never seen one but I know of it.
Interviewer:  Do you think it's the same as a magnolia uh or uh?
503:  I don't know.
Aux 1:  {D: I can't continue translating.}
Interviewer:  It's an interesting uh word uh
503:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 for a # cucumber tree. Uh what do you have that's poisonous uh make your skin break out #1 uh? #
503:  #2 Poison oak. #
Interviewer:  Poison oak uh ever have anything that a bush that turns red in the fall uh? Uh.
503:  That's called a red bush I think.
Interviewer:  Red bush uh-huh.
503:  {D: That'd be red bush here.}
Interviewer:  Same as a shoemake uh?
503:  I don't know about that.
Interviewer:  Um and do you know of anything that uh will poison cows if they eat uh if they eat it?
503:  No. I don't only uh This {X} you put on {X} #1 I think #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh-huh. #
503:  that'll kill 'em.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh did you ever hear of uh mountain laurel? Laurel uh?
503:  Never did.
Interviewer:  The uh somebody said that if a cow eats eats that uh well either she'll get sick or she'll die it's uh supposed to be poisonous uh.
503:  Now this uh historian if you get now put it on the crops will will kill.
Interviewer:  Oh it will? Oh.
503:  Now my brother a long time ago {D: hell} he killed the last milk cow he had and he was {X}
Interviewer:  Oh I'm sorry.
503:  He thought he was giving her salt at the time.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  It it killed her right down dead.
Interviewer:  How about different bugs that uh sting you? Uh.
503:  Different bugs that sting you?
Interviewer:  Yes sir uh. the kind that uh you might be {X} big out #1 {D: side?} #
503:  #2 {D: Bum-} # {D: Bumblebee might bite or sting.} {NW} Uh a horsefly might sting.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  Horsefly.
Interviewer:  How about uh do you know of any that build their nests in the ground?
503:  Yeah. {X} That's a #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. # Uh how about the ones that build their nests up uh kind of a paper nest hands down? {X} Pick up the
503:  Uh I forget now what kind of bee that's called. But that that's a bee all right.
Interviewer:  Uh have those around here?
503:  Yeah uh but just a few of 'em.
Interviewer:  And how about the uh things that uh build nests out of uh dirt?
503:  Well I've got uh I've got a few of them birds. That's that's what that is. It's it's it's. My home now that has a barn.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
503:  And uh I don't know what they're called. And I never did uh never did know about 'em 'til a few years ago.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  {X} uh I know some of 'em up on the doors but it {D: strapped her mud or pane on}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
503:  red stuff hold it together.
Interviewer:  Uh are the- are they supposed to be uh poisonous? Will they give you a?
503:  I don't know I d- I don't {D: regularly have 'em.}
Interviewer:  But uh but you haven't seen it until just the last few years #1 is that right? #
503:  #2 No. # Uh there was even uh for the last few years.
Interviewer:  And how about they uh uh little bugs that sh- you get in the summer and maybe itch but they don't really hurt? Uh what'd you used to call them? buzz around in the summer and sting you #1 {X} #
503:  #2 Skeeters. # Mosquitoes.
Interviewer:  Skeeters?
503:  #1 Skeeters #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
503:  uh yeah.
Interviewer:  And uh the ones that uh get under your skin if you walk through uh?
503:  That's chiggers.
Interviewer:  #1 That's chiggers? #
503:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And uh it's chiggers that can make you pretty sick uh?
503:  #1 Yes. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # {X} {NW} And the green things that jump uh in your garden?
503:  {D: I don't know.}
Interviewer:  the uh some people call 'em grasshopper
503:  #1 Grasshopper? Grasshoppers #
Interviewer:  #2 Grasshopper. #
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Did anybody ever call 'em hopper grass?
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  #1 Is that right? #
503:  #2 Uh-huh. # Call it that too.
Interviewer:  Hopper grass huh. And uh in the in the morning you might see a a spider {D: spreading} some kinda web in the garden.
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Is that a dew web or a spider web #1 or what? #
503:  #2 It's s- # spiderwebs.
Interviewer:  Spiderweb. If you see one in the house what do you call that uh?
503:  Spiderwebs.
Interviewer:  Spiderweb too. And the barn if it gets dusty and uh?
503:  Called a spiderweb too.
Interviewer:  And the uh {NW} bugs that fly around uh your light in the summer?
503:  That's um That's called some kinda fly I don't know around what kind it is They've got a name for 'em.
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing that uh eats your clothes? Right? Supposed to get in wool and I think eat the
503:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  wool. I've heard different names uh can- candle #1 fly. #
503:  #2 Candle # fly that's that's what I was trying to think of.
Interviewer:  Right uh uh-huh.
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And the other ones uh are those uh do you call those moths? That get in your clothes you know #1 and you have to. #
503:  #2 Yeah. # Moths.
Interviewer:  Is that right?
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  How about the bugs that fly around and flash on and off the light uh?
503:  That's a lightning bug.
Interviewer:  {X} And the ones that uh go over water and hover go like this and shoot over #1 here. #
503:  #2 That's # uh that's a snake doctor we always called that. {NW}
Interviewer:  I see.
503:  {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
503:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  All right.
503:  I reckon we're gonna get back to town uh I'm supposed to be back home five oh clock anyway and I got a little walk around town.
Interviewer:  All right sir all right. Wonder could I ask you just a few questions about birds before we leave #1 or? #
503:  #2 Well #
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
503:  #2 I don't know much # about birds now.
Interviewer:  {X} I was just wondering about the owls uh that you remember uh as a boy.
503:  Well what's called a {D: woo owl.}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  They were uh {D: could} be something {X} wasn't too large bout the size of good sized cat.
Interviewer:  Mm.
503:  I'd say. And uh they'd uh get around trees somewhere and {NW} #1 they'd say. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # I see uh and uh the the wood the uh birds that peck into the wood?
503:  Pecker wood what we always called 'em.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And different uh did you have different kinds of squirrel here uh?
503:  Well you don't don't don't have too much different types types of squirrels.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. The uh.
503:  There's uh gray and a fox
Interviewer:  #1 I see. #
503:  #2 {X} # {X}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh did you have um something that looks like a squirrel runs on the ground uh?
503:  That's a ground squirrel. #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Ground squirrel. # They they're around here #1 right? #
503:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and uh things that get after your chickens? Uh.
503:  That's uh that's um {NW} fox.
Interviewer:  Uh I see.
503:  Fox would get #1 after. #
Interviewer:  #2 You ever # hear of anything that looks like a fox he's but he's black and white and he smells pretty bad if you'd scare him?
503:  Well I I don't think I have a {D: necessary} that's a skunk I think you're talking about. Now #1 {D: the only one} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
503:  that I've ever seen there were one or two {X} down here on this side of home (X) {X} {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  I guess if you ever get it in your clothes you can't #1 {X} #
503:  #2 Oh boy no sir. #
Interviewer:  Did uh folks ever call a foxes uh varmints is that uh?
503:  Yeah. Yeah I think so.
Interviewer:  Weasels and uh uh.
503:  Well kinda I'm not very know very much about the weasels.
Interviewer:  That's common. Does anything that's a nuisance you might call a?
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh varmint is that?
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And uh you remember different kinds of fr- of frogs uh the uh the big ones?
503:  Well there's bullfrog and uh don't know what kind the others are called. Tree frog.
Interviewer:  Tree frog?
503:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  And the ones in your garden are little little things.
503:  Yeah. {D: I I don't know.}
Interviewer:  To- toad frog is that?
503:  Toad frog
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
503:  #2 yeah. #
Interviewer:  And turtles how about uh {x} turtles um?
503:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  #1 Somebody s- #
503:  #2 Terrapins. #
Interviewer:  Terrapin.
503:  Terrapins.
Interviewer:  Can you eat a terrapin or do you have #1 {X} #
503:  #2 I don't know. # {D: A t- curl uh} turtle and a terrapin I reckon it's the same thing uh
Interviewer:  #1 About the same thing? #
503:  #2 now a lot of # times he stretches he catches that wild uh creature or an animal or something like that.
Interviewer:  Oh um Mr.Gibbs would you like to use the bathroom uh?
503:  #1 Yes that would be good. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # All right go on in here.
503:  {D: The bathroom?} You've got a nice place fixed up here.
Interviewer:  It's a nice place all right uh. Well you were telling me a lot of things that I haven't heard and uh I'd like to have a chance to talk to you again if I could uh.
503:  Well.
Interviewer:  Like to ask you about the things you used to eat when you were born and uh
503:  #1 Well {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Something #1 about. #
503:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  oh that's fine.