505:  {NW} He- he- he- he didn't {X} {D: like I don't know him}. {NW} If it {D: don't do like he did last year}.
Aux:  {X}.
505:  Yeah he {D: need you}.
Aux:  {X}
505:  He stole {D: out of that gate} when I- I was uh- uh- now you heard that {D: he stole out} {X}. And uh- {D: we ran in- she went ran in} and he said well my {X} and I didn't need no shoes {D: either}. I been here I- I was here uh {D: stripping that furniture down and}
Aux:  #1 {Yeah.} #
505:  #2 {D: yeah.} # And I looked around and he didn't got {X}. George is on the way?
Aux:  Uh-uh George was {X}. I ain't been {X}. {X}. {D: She ain't} {X} {D: eight, nine} {D: either way.}
505:  Well maybe she won't have too much to do today. {NW} {NS} They had good luck {D: this year now didn't they?} {D: Bill}.
Aux:  Right.
505:  Huh?
Aux:  I said I don't- uh- {X}
505:  No.
Aux:  Mm-hmm. {D: What do you call those} {D: red maples?}
505:  Well, if it ain't {D: one thing though it's a nothing} so just {D: have to be tight.} Y'all {D: ain't gonna still} night tonight?
Aux:  No I think {X} {D: Georgia} {X} {NS} Two, about two night. {NS} {D: You got money to eat}. {NS} {D: Then he got a thing with him} Friday night.
505:  Yeah. How was {D: Reed} doing? Pretty good? Lucy called yesterday morning {D: Bill}.
Aux:  Hmm?
505:  Lucy called yesterday morning.
Aux:  {D: Did}?
505:  Ya she uh- she uh she done found out about her {X}, and I wonder how she find out that he told him. You know what {D: Liam} was speaking to us about?
Aux:  {X}
505:  She called me yesterday morning-
Aux:  Ya.
505:  Ya she called me yesterday morning, was telling me about it and, said she be up here and is gonna bring it, {D: and told us about them} {X}. I wonder how it is she knew it.
Aux:  I- I wasn't {X}.
505:  I do too I wonder how it is she found out. He must've have told them. {NS} She said don't let him never have no more. I told them don't you think we should share with him like we do you? {NS}
Aux:  {X}. {NS}
505:  She said {X} was doing fine. And uh they was um- gonna #1 {D: cook it.} #
Aux:  #2 {D: You know} # {X} was over there yelling uh {X}.
505:  H- How she doing?
Aux:  {D: Getting fat.}
505:  Yeah.
Aux:  Mm-hmm. {X} {NS}
505:  Uh, {D: I knew you} they had just said the other day {D: you know when she's looking at you} {D: she go} {X} {D: wanna come up there and she's going.} They just gonna come up here and they'll bring, {X} with 'em. So Luc- Lucy may say she be up here and, she didn't say when but she says she gonna {X} cook some food {X} Over to the {X} house.
Aux:  Yeah.
505:  Mm-hmm. Well going {X} and you get ready. I know you #1 {D: got good} #
Aux:  #2 {X} # {X}. {D: I'm about that} {X} {D: last year}.
505:  I know- I know {D: him}-
Aux:  {D: Saw them} at the house. {NS}
505:  If y'all {D: go and heading} down to Memphis to the, field and {D: I- I know you} leave gonna leave kind of early {X}. {D: The weight could be somehow from} by six boy.
Aux:  I'm thinking, {D: may need to}, {X} what George {X} {D: He} he was gonna be right I think around eight o'clock.
505:  {D: Yeah be back um}, uh {D: way be} by from six to seven I expect.
Aux:  {X}.
505:  Well that'll be better on her. {NS} Uh whatever. {X} {D: gonna appreciate} she ain't even worried about it being {D: show}.
Aux:  #1 Mm-mm #
505:  #2 That's # one good thing because #1 {D: uh}, #
Aux:  #2 Uh. #
505:  i-it don't make sense. {NS}
Aux:  I went down {X} in uh uh last night I got them {X}.
505:  Yeah yeah if you got um uh i-if you got {X} you got some new {X} you just keep your own cause I {X} got a good past and.
Aux:  I got- I got {D: a labeled sack.}
505:  Yeah save me a sack. Cause I want something when those {D: chicken} that's what I want. I wanna {D: put my} chicken. Mix it with that wheat {X} chicken. You know when you hear {when I'm winging} my chicken?
Aux:  If I see them {X}.
505:  Yeah so that, their- their {X} and they {D: they get it} {X} by herself and then she go ahead and {D: lay and} come back out and sometimes you go with them sometimes you don't. I say {X}. {NW}
Aux:  You always let me {X} think I was a {D: mean} {X}.
505:  Yeah she going back to {D: lay.} She come off the roof {X} and I said {D: look here} this thing going to {D: Maine}. Did you know the other night {D: our friends- all our friends} {D: admitted} they had, and they {D: larger than my chicken} {D: and all of them got drowned}?
Aux:  {D: How'd they drown man?}
505:  Yeah I wonder what kind of {X} they have on the {D: brooding.} All of the chicken she told me yesterday, got {D: drowned and} I was coming was talking to her, She said well I say I ain't got more chicks. I said what happened? She said on the night when that big storm come said all of my chicks got drowned. And I said no {X}. I said well it better been chicken then us. She said yeah. {NW} That's right, I {D: said it} better been the chicken than us. She said yeah. {NS} I said I hate it but I was {D: saying} {NS} I know you. {NS} You done {X}
Aux:  Blow the top off the {D: brooder.}
505:  {NS} Uh even {D: the uh} I think we got a {X} when it rain. I don't know what happened Bill.
Aux:  Uh is- is it large as your {D: chicks}?
505:  They're larger than mine. Some of the chickens {X} {X} not to eat them when he get their {D: size} but I {D: remember he likes small} chicken like that. So I- I- I guess {NS} I guess that um, {NS} that we were talking bad or something. {NS} That's somebody out there.
Aux:  Mm-hmm.
505:  In the truck. {NW} {D: That's that} {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
505:  {NW} Yeah {D: I see that.}
Interviewer:  {D: Is that Bill?}
505:  {D: Yeah that's Bill}. That's the oldest one.
Interviewer:  How many of- how many of y'all?
505:  {D: In the} three of us now.
Interviewer:  Three. There were how many?
505:  Four?
Interviewer:  Four.
505:  Mm-hmm. My {X} got a lots of sister and brothers. {NS} You know died when they was small.
Interviewer:  Oh yeah?
505:  Uh-huh. Uh it ain't {D: about} it ain't a {X} before my sister died you know I told you yesterday at seventy? She stayed at {X} Bill stayed {X} Bill used to stay over in the house over there. {D: So uh} {D: So I at least stayed at- at her home place}.
Aux:  {X}
505:  #1 And so #
Aux:  #2 {X} # {X}
505:  #1 Ain't but #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  {D: ain't but three are sleeping now}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Mm-hmm. Two brothers and one sister. {NS} Yeah. If you had been here yesterday {X} get you another taste. {NW} He loved to talk.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm. #
505:  #2 A-and- # Mm-hmm. Yeah he love to talk. Now {D: that's the}- Who you said sent you to here?
Interviewer:  Uh, well Mr. {B} sent me to Bill,
505:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  and Bill told me to go down to see if they could find Buford.
505:  Uh-huh. And then Bill- and then Bill came {X} {NW} {X} no. {X} Yeah {D: but}, {D: something}, {D: son at the Savannah} {D: he got to tell other people.} His name is beautiful {X}. All got nickname. Bill's name is {D: Nathan} we call him, they {X} and we call him, Bill and call him {X}. Sometime we call him Tim. Used to be {X}. Used to go around, drive around my {D: leg and} and uh we told the son he was just like the {D: old man}. We used to- we used to call him Tim all the time. Mama made it {D: pretty}. {NW} So uh- she knew that {D: you cover the sun} cause he was. {X}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
505:  Mm-hmm. Yeah you {X} You don't wanna {D: tell you this} {D: so you can't-can't take-can't take the sun.} Uh- you break out like that.
Interviewer:  Oh yeah?
505:  Uh-huh.
Aux:  {X}.
505:  The doctor says something you {X} on the farm {D: But I just} I don't, really believe it because he wasn't like that before he {X} because {X} Yeah they went down and come back that's when it started. {X} And he {D: we ain't never did nothing} {D: good} for him #1 and I mean he #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah. #
505:  he {D: build} he-and he did everything and cut wood and cut logs and everything. {D: Now ain't never known to break out and}
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  {X} and he picked up
505:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
505:  Cause he work hard uh I think that yeah he went down and {X}. He and Bill go.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  I think he went in- {D: in the sun then}. {D: September October one of 'em) Something like that {D: sound when they've been in a} cold building {D: and} and the {X} and one with the two brothers on the farm. Why did I have her stop? She needs to {D: pull the} {X}. All the men people on the farm. My brother in law {D: stayed in bed} then I said well, they would {D: too}. They say they about to go get on {X} #1 they don't have to go see their brother. #
Interviewer:  #2 Uh yeah. #
505:  {X} That's the day my {D: bo}- all- all three of my brothers. {X} Yeah. Mm-hmm. {D: They did} {X}
Aux:  Yes. {NS}
505:  Come in. {NS}
Aux:  Hey. Fine how you doing? And I see you doing alright alright. My name's {D: Marvin} {B} {D: Quigley.} Glad to meet you.
505:  {D: Come on in and get you a chair.} He was looking for you yesterday and I said man I tell you looking for you #1 yesterday. #
Aux:  #2 {NW} #
505:  Yeah. People who make a regular uh {D: family.}
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  And he uh- and he uh- he would call and what we said {D: right now. Can't get it back}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Yeah he got to a car door now. I come get you to my {D: door}. Told them they're {X}. You know what I do? {NW} I said you need to help my brother. I said that's the one where you {D: talking to me}. {NW} {D: He's everybody different.} My mother's side of people, papa's side of people in different schools and {D: thing around}. And so now you she couldn't {X} I mean help me out of my drawers and {X}. {NW} {D: Maybe}. He's actually by my grandfather. {X} {D: I told mother}. My grandmother {D: lose my} {X} in Tipton County but I did know about my grandad. He was born in {D: August some morning.}
Aux:  {NS} No he came from Virginia.
505:  Virginia?
Aux:  Yes.
505:  Well I know {D: I done saw him in} Virginia {X} but I know grandmother was born in Tennessee. She say. And uh, I told you that I didn't tell you.
Aux:  I {X} Yeah I done forgot there's {D: a lot} {X}. {NW} {D: Got ever they need} well um {D: remember things} what they used to be.
Interviewer:  Yeah right.
Aux:  {NW}
505:  Now he- now he can remember my grandmother on my mother's side.
Interviewer:  Did I ask you about her yesterday?
505:  Mm-hmm. You asked me about my- my mother {X} I told you I have a- my grandmother was uh- on my mother's side was the {D: Indian}.
Interviewer:  #1 {D: Oh yeah} #
505:  #2 Part Indian. #
Interviewer:  right.
505:  I- you remember me telling you that? Now he- now he remember but I {D: I- I} I ain't never- #1 I wasn't even born. #
Aux:  #2 Yeah she # she died before you was born. {D: Her name was Maggie.}
505:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {D: Maggie} # {B}
505:  Uh-huh. Now see you remember- now you can go back there and {X}. What was uh, grandmother's uh, father name? Brother named {D: Deke was he named Deke?}
Aux:  {D: Nah uh} {D: Deke was a} he was uh, {D: that was on uh} daddy's side.
505:  That's what I said, I said what was grandmother's uh, brother name? {D: Wasn't it} {D: Deke?}
Aux:  Yeah {D: Deke was}
505:  #1 Uh-huh. #
Aux:  #2 {D: his name.} #
505:  #1 I'll tell you that uh- #
Aux:  #2 {X} # {X} came. Was li- #1 little #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Aux:  #1 {X}. #
505:  #2 # Mm-hmm.
Aux:  {X} Old man. Grandmother's uh, father was named {X}.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  And then did his {D: uh} son, {D: call him Luke} {X}.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  And uh when he sees, that that was her brother
505:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  {D: John} {X}
505:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  {X} is her brother.
505:  And then {D: kids is- was the} {X} that I know don't {X}.
Aux:  Oh {D: Aunt Lou.}
505:  Oh I forgot {D: Aunt Lou.}
Aux:  {D: And she's}-
505:  Yeah she {D: that she need you} {X}. I told you he can remember everything. {NW} Yeah {D: Aunt Lou.} Yes uh. What will {X} {D: tell the whole thing} {X} Well that's {D: just uh}, her sister's child.
Aux:  Yeah. {NS}
505:  Well I had a {X} {D: Aunt Lou} {X} And then {X} those two I know on our grandmother's side {D: and her sister.} And uh, did you know your mother's {D: sister}? {NS}
Aux:  {D: Know who?}
505:  Do you know {D: any more of mom's sisters}?
Aux:  No. {D: I just}- {D: and I} {X}.
505:  Yeah I know that #1 {D: I mean that side of him.} #
Aux:  #2 {X} # {D: I know her} sister {X} {D: know anything about it.}
505:  {D: The rest of them} #1 was dead before you couldn't ever remember. #
Aux:  #2 Yeah. #
505:  {NS} I was telling that {X} used to be a large family of our people {X}. {NS} {D: Plenty of} cousin {D: and thing} now that all of the brothers on my daddy's side is dead. {NS} On the mother side too.
Aux:  Whole family #1 {D: of uh} #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Aux:  {X} {D: dead}.
505:  My grandmother nearly get eighty-five.
Aux:  {X} You was the baby.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  {D: You stopped} {NS} {X} {D: and} {D: Dad} {X} {D: Doris.}
505:  Over there was my daddy's brother. {NS}
Interviewer:  Is that right?
Aux:  #1 Yes. #
505:  #2 Yes. # {NS} It was a big {D: family} {X}
Aux:  Your mother {D: or your} sister tell me {D: of my} {X} and uh, {D: Cassie}. And uh {D: and uh}-
505:  {D: And visit?}
Aux:  {D: Visit}.
505:  Mm-hmm. {NS}
Aux:  We grew up {D: with I never did know} uh {D: Cassie} {D: she died} {NS} before I was born but my uh other {D: two aunties} {X} on {D: daddy's} side, I've know about them.
505:  I was telling him about um, all of the {D: thick settlement} that used to be around here. I didn't tell him yesterday {D: about right about} how that was a {D: gin} store. And everything {D: right there} and all ar- all around here {D: were these houses all out there} on this side already. But just {D: thick settlement.} It used to be that most of the {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Was the settlement called anything in particular
505:  #1 No just #
Interviewer:  #2 or? #
505:  {D: A little good ol' settlement.}
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  Uh-huh. And um, {NS} {D: and I-} {D: and I got to hear about} the school {D: and the hall was there now}. And uh o- oh Lord the school barely have a {D: just a green lawn}, school {it didn't have no} {X} different {D: grades will separate you} {X} on the desk it's a desk with a different side. But uh two teachers teach {D: fifth}, an they had a hallway. {NS} The church was also larger then it is now before the storm wrecked it. When it tore it down. Yeah this uh, this used to be a real {D: thick settlement.} Houses all back behind them was it used to be thicker {D: than the houses all back round there.} There was roads to go into 'em you know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Yeah. {D: And here was} on all through here, {D: by color} from one black person {X} {D: the smith, I told you right there}.
Aux:  {X} {D: to the right that is} across the road, his daddy and {X} {D: woulda put them} {D: John would} {X} and Johnny and he on, {D: the place} {D: Daniel on the gin.} Cotton gin that saw mill and {D: grist mill} all combined now together. Your father and two son. {X} They used to {D: own} back up {X} {D: Cotton Lake there}.
505:  {D: Know who} they had it {D: delivered to}?
Aux:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {D: No one} {D: been working on down there} and now this a {D: jumped up}. A sc- a sc- {X}-
Aux:  {X} down that is {X} Miss uh, Martha {D: Maydol} {D: is in possession now of that} {X} and about three hundred and sixty acres was in the farm {D: back then.} {D: On}, someone who {D: died out} and, moved out. {D: But all the} children {D: left in the end.} After their father and mother passed, {NS} {D: and they} their {D: chicks locked out of} {X}. That {X} they give their {D: chick's lodge} to Bill. {X} Oh, {D: it's on the uh} {NS} um {D: cornerstone} that they had to take, about the {X} and, the uh. William- well he William he was the uh, authorizer of the uh {D: bill that} {X}. Before he {D: started it having}, had {X} that is have a {D: series on there} that's {D: some bush hauling.} Then they build the little old {D: frame} {X} and, then it {D: mainly gun barrels.}
505:  I told you that yester-
Aux:  #1 {D: It wasn't me.} #
505:  #2 day. #
Aux:  {X} {NS} you know {D: all the night they check out the local deals} they locked out of them to build a {D: church} that, can {X} the the {D: Wiliford's Willow Road} {D: Baptist church}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  So this, feeling sick of these {X}. {D: I almost} this {D: November} now he is {D: it's all in a} cornerstone what year {D: the church} was. You know built but it's been rebuilt since that time is still going the same {D: name it was.} All the {D: trustees} and, all those other {D: church} {D: and old man resemble.} The cornerstone. Er uh er uh I remember {D: Zeke} {B} he was uh, the leader of the congregation at that time.
Interviewer:  Is that when it was first organized?
Aux:  Yes {D: sir}. And he started from the {D: bush hauling.} His granddaughter, {X} {D: mad} that uh, I mean daughter smallest daughter. Her mother was, you know a member of the church and her daddy, her granddaddy rather was the one that I said {D: about was authorized uh} {D: to be in the church}.
Interviewer:  Did you have as many big fields back then when you had a lot of people living around here?
505:  Mm-hmm. It just be sometime the small thicket sometimes you know. None other {D: place left} and, but they didn't clean up so much {D: like they did} now. All back down there. Back from here back behind them woods back there. Now this {X} last year. Now if you just could see just a short time he {X} {D: you and I.} {X} They ran their last, sometime last summer {D: wasn't it?}
Aux:  Mm yeah {D: it was gonna be} last summer {X}
505:  They had {X}
Aux:  #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  do and then cook the, {X} that was large enough, you know for so long. And {X} he's just taking {X} and, pushed it up and, wind it up and, and I see wood cut, and haul wood out of there and, then when it got {D: cool}, getting all the. {X} {NW} {X} Bring that stuff up and went {D: roll and sit at the fire.} {D: Light it} up and, and went in and broke it up. {X} I think about {D: forty hundred} {X}
505:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
Aux:  #2 around there. #
505:  It's just about, it just about a {X} from here to the {X}. And wide.
Aux:  Yeah that was uh the {D: ship and} {X} and, and they sold it to, uh, the boy by the name of {X}. These boys and, cut the timber off it. {X} it up {D: and then uh} they sold it- I don't know who did {X} boys from them, after they {D: cleared it up with} the {X} {D: in a larger} county that is.
505:  Mr. {B}
Aux:  {X} {D: on it}.
505:  Mr. {B} was his name. {NW} {NS} I wouldn't have known his name but he stopped here one day he had trouble with his truck and um, come to door and knock now {X} door he says {D: cause it was raining and I said good night.} He says uh, I'm having trouble. {D: Shouldn't I}- I don't know if you- do you have a phone? I said yes I do. He said you mind me calling, to {D: repair} and I pay you for the {D: call ring} that I can call {D: connect home}. I said well come on in. You're waiting {X} be all right. So he come on in and then I, connect him to the operator- {D: the operator to see about that number}. {NS} He called one in a few minutes the truck was here. {D: He said essentially} they cut him out and one day he's in a car and I was, he's kinda look like I didn't know him. In the truck he said hi. I says fine how are you? {NS} He said uh, you don't know me do you? {NS} {NS} {NS} And I said no maybe I do. And that day I {D: hadn't} see him {D: he once} and he was walking {X} you know. He said uh, this is Mr. {B} {X}. He said I am {X} and he said I want you doing {X}. I said thank you. {NW} And so he- he said yes I don't go {X} I got {X} cold creek when you wanna go there fishing say you see my name up right next to {D: door, fishing} {X} thank you. He said well I'll be seeing you, you go along. #1 {D: This ain't} #
Interviewer:  #2 How # how nice {D: to say that?}
505:  Yeah.
Aux:  {X} used to be a large uh, {X} not much colored people in {D: your large sermon} but, years later um- back then the {D: pushes} from then on up {X} uh, these people coming {D: to scatter them out and}, the uh, big {X}{C: car in background} {D: Five or eight men with} tractors. Well to begin with this {D: for all we knew.} Got my {X}, if you make the ship proper you {X} brought his own {D: team and} you is {D: ranching} and, you would {X} to get out of the stock. You would feed your stock and, fly your {D: news} and make 'em miss a crop. But after uh, {D: need} uh large rivers and, lawns and things coming and peoples buying tractors and, starts farming. With tractors why your {D: dog eat with the mules and wolves are the} {X} they- they was {X} and also the sharecropper. The one man now {D: on}- uh, I don't say {D: on} but he's {D: offering}, three and four thousand acres of land and, you know that uh will be territory. Yes but, so many people {D: are at work} and, cause them {D: they leave here} {D: go other places to find} jobs uh. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  {D: And this}, same thing you {X} would be. And I don't think that one man own two or three thousand acres of land. But, he did uh, old time uh {D: pushing that} old time, uh, life I liked it better and it was the {X} it up for a while you know you got more {D: margin} for your labor. But, back there, we were living a lot better then we is now to a certain extent. Cause you'd own a farm and you could raise what food and stuff that you had to have. Cows, hogs and all the chicken everything like that. He was raising the, what {X} stuff {D: didn't eat it}. But now the peoples on the farm but they ain't a big farm and, well uh, he just felt like {D: man he lived in town.} Good thing he get to {D: got go buy what he}, {D: raised} nice beans and cotton. Some of them livestock {D: with}, locked up and going take time to, {D: move} the live stock {X}. Beans and cotton and, when the governor {D: of}, {X} on this cotton, and made me {C: rooster crowing} {D: pay him no} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {NS} {C: rooster crowing} That's what, done away with a lot of the farmers. They use {D: um}, {X} I'm make the share crop with you but {D: fools}. You let me {X} that sacred land that you {C: rooster crowing} {X}{C: rooster crowing} I had to wait for years {D: while} so I'm gonna either move, and that's what a lot of people {D: ought to} place to stay. And then, {NS} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} you wanna make it {D: in as much time} {X} you wanna work as many acres as you can work now but, {D: I helped} worked in a big {D: sum of} land and then at the end, you ain't- {C: rooster crowing} I don't know {C: rooster crowing} {D: but the end come} well that didn't profit you much. {NS} Ya.
505:  {NW}
Aux:  And they was {D: around} six {X} {D: pull out} fifty cents {X} up a dollar depending upon what type of labor you doing. A day {C: rooster crowing} and that was a {C: rooster crowing} {D: small sum} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {NS} {C: rooster crowing} Just, {D: tough} what you had to get, was down on a {D: mill which} you know you {D: buy it.} I know back in, {X} {D: and uh}, {NS} but then who was {D: day}? {NS} You could buy a- a {X} sack of flower or- {C: rooster crowing} {NS} That is when you {C: rooster crowing} {D: can the day}, {NS} for thirty-five cents.
Interviewer:  Mm.
Aux:  And that same type of flower today'll cost you five dollars or something.{C: rooster crowing} Now that'll, {D: that'll let you know about how much uh} they're different in their old {D: uh price} and your {D: present} price. {NS} {D: Box of matches} {C: rooster crowing} and get it for five cents a box and that box already cost you about thirty-five forty cents a box {D: now}.
Interviewer:  Mm.
Aux:  Maybe the box is smaller but, it goes there about {D: their} {X} but, it's not as, all of them old matches back then one uh one box to make {D: two of the} {D: sized boxes you got now}.
Interviewer:  Talking about these big kitchen matches?
Aux:  That's right. We call them nickel boxes {D: back is.} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {NS}
505:  It's a lot {D: to give their}
Aux:  #1 Aw ya. #
505:  #2 {D: size}. #
Aux:  {NS} {NS} It was {NS} so much {D: change}, {NS} {D: and I'll tell you} some of this change in the new life I like it better and some I did not. {NS} {X} {C: rooster crowing}
505:  {X} {C: rooster crowing} now? Used to be very larger than that.
Interviewer:  Is that right?
Aux:  Aw ya. {C: multiple speaking at one time} {X} box of matches uh make two of that {C: rooster crowing} {X}.
Interviewer:  Hm.
505:  And cost just a nickel. And sugar {C: rooster crowing} you could get it. They used to buy it loose. Oh you could get, twenty-five cents worth of sugar. {X} {C: rooster crowing} Ten-pound bag you get now. {D: You get about twenty-five cents} {D: worth of sugar}.
Interviewer:  {X} {C: multiple people}
505:  Mm-hm-
Aux:  Back then the {D: prices} you can buy a whole {D: pound} of flour for three dollars. And you can't buy a sack of flour for that price #1 now. #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
Aux:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
Aux:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Uh what was coffee back then? {C: rooster crowing} You know that's so high now. { C: rooster crowing}
Aux:  About ten cents a pound #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
505:  {D: How do you do} ten cents a pound.
Aux:  {D: Uh ten} to fifteen #1 {D: no value's worth anywhere over fifteen cents a pound}. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Well what is it now? Is it still up around four dollars?
Aux:  #1 That's right. #
505:  #2 Uh-huh. #
Aux:  And now we're {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: the end of the uh} {D: season and it was uh} he was paying five dollars a pound for it.
505:  {X} {C: rooster crowing} cause I'm. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} You like coffee?
Interviewer:  I don't drink it.
505:  Mm. Mm good.
Aux:  And uh-
505:  You {D: had a bit then.}
Interviewer:  {NW}
Aux:  You think uh, you {D: people all} uh they had their chicken {D: and all they- they had} {D: plenty} eggs. {D: The eggs}- more eggs {C: rooster crowing} than the. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} You get 'em to the store and, they give you, ten cents a dozen for 'em. And uh, I think it's, twelve, twelve or fifteen cents and three {D: give you} three {D: dollars for you.} {D: Now you've got} {C: rooster crowing} fifteen cents {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} ten cents a dozen is what you'd get {D: for your egg}. That's why I {D: test} uh, a lots of this uh, you know, you, woulda done that in the {X} {D: I'd go along with it} and if some
505:  #1 {D: I think somebody} #
Aux:  #2 -body. #
505:  need a {D: favor.}
Aux:  I don't- {C: rooster crowing} I don't {C: rooster crowing} {D: see a way}. {C: rooster crowing}
505:  {X}
Aux:  Yeah.
505:  Mm.
Aux:  It ain't the amount that uh, you make but charge amount that you can save. The uh, like if {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: you'll}, {D: you'll walk down} and make, ten or fifteen dollars a day and, you go to store, to buy- {X} {C: telephone ringing} {X} {C: telephone ringing} when you got it- {X} {X} {C: phone ringing}
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah I see people going #
Aux:  #2 I know. #
Interviewer:  #1 to the grocery store at home and, #
Aux:  #2 Hey. #
Interviewer:  pay something like #1 fifty or sixty #
Aux:  #2 Uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  dollars and I can tell you that {D: um}, one bag of
Aux:  #1 Sure. #
Interviewer:  #2 sugar. #
505:  Telephone.
Aux:  Yeah yeah. {X} about fifteen or twenty dollars going to the store {D: you had to have} to have you {D: a wedding or something},
505:  #1 That's- that's- that's Bill. #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  Yeah.
Aux:  {X} {C: rooster crowing}
505:  Uh-huh.{C: rooster crowing} Man it makes it different in times then when it used to be. I can tell you #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  They would uh, {D: I can wear it anywhere.} Now I go if I don't get me uh,
Aux:  #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  #1 she told me that uh #
505:  #2 {X} # {D: Three hundred and something right there.}
Aux:  Uh, the {X} is uh, good with going
Interviewer:  #1 Did you #
Aux:  #2 and just you #
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {D: you know and uh} #
Interviewer:  #1 {D: long back then.} #
Aux:  #2 {D: Saturday.} #
Interviewer:  {X} you know what those days-
Aux:  #1 and I don't- #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  #1 She said she did- she is alright. She is. #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {D: Is that right?} #
Aux:  #1 He said she went, #
Aux:  #2 That's right. #
Aux:  #1 you can take us on and if you #
Aux:  #2 {X} # {X}
505:  #1 if she is #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 uh you know #
505:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  Can you tell her to come share with her? {D: That's my} {C: rooster crowing} p-people do that now. {C: rooster crowing} If you ca- if you didn't {X} over here {D: house}. {D: Of nothing they got to} {C: rooster crowing} {X} you make her take a {X} to you.
Aux:  But George over here said he used to {D: to-} uh,
505:  And uh,
Aux:  said {X} she still, #1 you know whe- when we were #
505:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  {D: six there was} #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {X} # and even my daddy taking care of them {D: children.} When he died he- {C: rooster crowing}
Aux:  {X} {C: rooster crowing} #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {X} # -these children up here {D: in the} {X} and come up there to meet them. He go to store and then. {X}
Aux:  Not a lot of power when I go back to house. #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  {D: mind what you see}.
505:  Said uh-
Aux:  He said if she was feeling alright #1 {D: she would.} #
505:  #2 {X} # But then give him over to. {D: Don't give them a whole can} uh but you-
Aux:  #1 Now I, #
505:  #2 {X} # {X}
Aux:  call and let her know when I go back to the house.
505:  And that's where people live in. {NS} {X} {C: rooster crowing} everything you get from each other {X} most {D: out the back.} {NS} And back in them days it's just like if you got sick or something, or something happens to you- to your family, and that gift {D: in your family} {D: that they didn't work} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  If it's near me it's close around I mean in the community. They didn't {X} They go there and {D: sit and drink with you} and share with you. And now you can't hardly get {D: people to} {X} when they're dead {D: they help cover you up}.
Interviewer:  So you just don't think the people are close as they used-
505:  I know they're not.
Aux:  Yeah I know, not by a long shot.
505:  Yeah.
Aux:  Everybody now look like {D: it's} trying to live for themselves and forget about, their neighbors and what not. Yeah I know, I was born and raised right {D: across the one} living there now. And uh, you didn't have to be sick, you- you just, you were farming and you got behind your crop, and other people {D: was up}, they would go in there and clean your crop out. Chop it and plow it at no cost they just, {X} them, {D: duty towards} each other. {D: They didn't have those} {X}. And they didn't. {D: neighbored around through} communities. Get behind the crop and {X} and, clean that crop out and {D: rise up} {C: rooster crowing} No charges.
Interviewer:  You know that makes things a lot easier {D: in our days} if people would just, do that.
505:  #1 That's right. #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  Ya I- I {X} uh old man {X} he rode in this neighborhood down around. {X} And uh, {D: his barn got burnt up} {D: down there and} {D: right about} {D a mile} from here. And {D: wind up} {C: rooster crowing} {X} and, corn and all this farming equipment. So in my day they ate a lot of, extra flour too and old, {C: rooster crowing} {X} {X} and bought a new one. And they, {C: rooster crowing} give that uh, {X} give that {D: old man flour} enough to, make his crops while he didn't have to buy no flour. They'd had {X} corn. He'd take that wagon and come up there and load that wagon up with corn to {C: rooster crowing} help make his crop {D: long}. Cotton seeds and all {D: like that.} And {D: goes around.} This fall if you make a good crop why you get {X} corn {D: back that I} {X} plus what they give him. They would give him some {X} and then {C: rooster crowing} if he had plenty corn, he would come out and let him have what corn could finish his crop. And you just like we- we were kids, you got behind, you say you {D: go} {X}, {D: y'all are} {D: chop} cotton over there, pick cotton over there. {C: rooster crowing} While you was over there in {D: south} {X} you didn't know nothing about whether it he was a {X} {D: you didn't know about}. {X} going chopping and, {D: if there's any pay to} come uh, do, we be the one collect the pay.
Interviewer:  Oh ya.
Aux:  {D: You'd went out} and did the job. So it is so much different, so much different.
505:  But that {D: ain't have to} happen now do you think children wouldn't like it?
Aux:  Uh-uh.
Interviewer:  #1 Why's that? #
505:  #2 You be # children today but you be {X} today? {NS}
Interviewer:  I think if they were raised with that-
Aux:  #1 {D: That's that's right.} #
Interviewer:  #2 idea. #
Aux:  That's right. {D: Now the} thing about it why, children are. {C: rooster crowing} It's going to, {X} that- that- {D: president} {D: did pass} have uh, {D: failed} to put this {X} on the children {NS} or {D: train them} {D: as we were.} Now back then, {NS} if I did {D: coming on}. {NS} {D: You just been} in a neighborhood and uh, {NS} and all those folk was leaving and going someplace, {NS} and {D: even that} you sh- your next closest neighbor around around and he was, watching over you just like your mother and father was. If you kids got out {X} you'd- you got that. {X} If any of them old {D: peas} {X} like, just like your mother and father would. And if there's {D: mess there} they would whoop you like they would. #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  When they'd call me {X} and you were gonna get another one.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  And, {D: of course} there never been more peoples {D: see you did.} Don't you {X} say you didn't do it. And they'd find me every time {D: you would drag it up}.
Interviewer:  {NW}
Aux:  And {C: rooster crowing} {D: yikes}. {X}
Interviewer:  Yep.
Aux:  If people was under that same rule now. Uh the {D: general} {X} and reform school wouldn't be full of young people like {D: here}.
Interviewer:  Yeah I know.
Aux:  That's right. But what's never- you fail to train your child and at home grew up, saying and doing just about what he want to uh you know, when he come he gonna {C: rooster crowing} {D: remain a} {X}. He- he got no fear. Who's he got to fear? But, I was {X} but he didn't have to be the old persons any young person when I was a kid growing up, if he told me to do something, I did it because I thought it was right to do it you know that I was {D: I mean you had the mind the older people just} like that. You couldn't catch a young kid {D: saying now not a kid} do you nothing wrong will cuss you out and tell you something you ain't heard before. {NW} {X}{C: rooster crowing extremely loudly} but {D: And their parents it's like being in.} {X}
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
Aux:  #2 It's like yes # or no to their mother and father {D: is his.} {X} {NS} {X}
505:  One thing they teaching that in a school and uh-
Aux:  Thirty- thirty years old and, I was just a {X} getting my dad and mother a- a {C: rooster crowing} {D: back wood a sharp wood} as I was when I was three year old. I think, after me and my wife married my daddy's health was bad {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} the house. {D: Me and} my mother for three years before me and my wife moved out. But what's {D: never he said do} I was taking care of the farm and you disable. {X} {C: rooster crowing} -but what's never he said he want it done. Well I liked {D: to know} I went on and did because that was his orders.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  And I think that's, the way it should be now. {D: You a} kid now and {D: get up here} ten twelve years old talking about you can't do nothing {D: with you}. My dad told me he says, when you get grown enough why you can't do what I {D: uh}, tell you to do. Said I had to go to {X} Said you better hit it.
Interviewer:  That straightened him out pretty quick.
Aux:  That's right. {NW} I said uh he says I don't care how you did it. {C: rooster crowing} {D: All you} {C: rooster crowing} {D: kick down the roof} that I'm {D: uh ruin all those}, you gonna do what I said do.
Interviewer:  You mentioned your wife, how old is she now?
Aux:  My wife is uh, sixty-seven.
Interviewer:  Was she born in this same area?
Aux:  Yeah uh y-yeah {D: up the uh}, {X}. I believe she was born in {X} County.
Interviewer:  In where?
Aux:  In {X} County. {NS} And I think she born in {X} County and the, uh, mother moved her here, small kid but, she moved a lot of county over the year.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Y'all both go to the same church?
Aux:  That's right.
Interviewer:  That Baptist church right there? {C: rooster crowing} {NS}
Aux:  {X} Baptist Church.
Interviewer:  So you say her people came from {X} county?
Aux:  Yes sir.
Interviewer:  Can she take- can she take them any further back than that? Maybe where her parent- her grandparents or, some of her ancestors were #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 No I couldn't # now because the, the {NW} {C: rooster crowing} {X} when they moved over here, they li- they {X} uh, move in uh, what we call up in an {X} which is about three miles from here. {NS} And uh, {NS} we were living down here and, I didn't come to know her until, nineteen nineteen nineteen I think. Well we we move here up in that neighborhood where they was, that's when we got {D: acquainted with}. I do know they come from {X} county the whole year. I didn't know uh any her ancestors, others. She had uh uncles, which was her mother's brother-in-law. He just {D: Charlie Thomas.} He, he come from {X} county also. And her, father was {D: Charlie Thomas's} brother. They all was no move from {X} county over the year.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And how old are you right now?
Aux:  Seventy-two.
Interviewer:  Seventy-two. Y'all {D: with} that farmer?
Aux:  That's right.
Interviewer:  You're not- are you the oldest of the, children?
Aux:  Yes {X} I got a, sister, {D: who had} passed then seventy she was, older than I was. Two years older than I was. {D: Mary.} She was married to, John {B}.
Interviewer:  I see. Let me let me ask uh, uh, {D: Buford} about a few things I asked you about #1 yesterday when we- #
505:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  we were talking about, uh, the house, and things in the house and all like that. What would you call, uh the best room in the house? That you might use for company and, for something like that
Aux:  Uh, which would I call the best room? {X} west room. {X} west room.
505:  But when {X}{C: rooster crowing} if you had a den, um, a living room, uh what did we say that {D: that was}?
Interviewer:  A living room or a parlor
505:  #1 A parlor #
Interviewer:  #2 or something like that. #
505:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  Yeah. That would be {X} parlor {D: the west room.}
Interviewer:  Mm.
Aux:  but we lived in this room and, {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: side room there.} Two room, the kitchen, and the little side room. {D: In fact} it was a back porch and we just boxed it in.
Interviewer:  Oh yeah. About how- about how big are your rooms?
Aux:  Mine is uh, sixteen by fourteen with a ha- a six foot hall between the two rooms then the kitchen sit, on the back. {D: So} the uh, east room.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. About how tall were the ceilings?
Aux:  {D: Divided by} eight foot {D: wall}, uh.
Interviewer:  What do you c- what do you call that thing on the top of the house you know that smoke comes out of?
Aux:  Chimney and, uh, chimney on one end and the flue on the other one. The flue {D: it is} {D: he said} {X} about {D: seven in the} house the flue go from the north, look {D: through the} top.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  But the chimney is built from the ground on up you know.
Interviewer:  You- you probably s- uh still see some houses with these stoves you know you use for heat?
Aux:  That's right.
Interviewer:  Do you what do you call the- that pipe that goes from the stove up, you know to the?
Aux:  That's the stove pipe.
Interviewer:  That's the stove pipe.
Aux:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {D: Is that uh} on some houses the flue's outside?
Aux:  #1 That's right. #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Aux:  We have seen them- others uh, {X} how they uh, they don't require you to build, those what we call {D: a swaying} flue. You get up in your log cut a hole about like that {X} and light I don't see why the light but {D: you look close to the wall you won't.} But he cut a hole down he got {D: stakes}, that {D: they build} along that, {X} ain't going out through the {D: log}. But then now that, if you gonna build a flue, it's supposed to be built from around, on up just like the chimney is.
Interviewer:  Mm.
Aux:  Said it's, it's, {D: danger} {X} fire getting in the log, go up there in from the pipe and, cause you know, fire and, but if it goes up from the ground and this pipe go into the brick wall, and then there's no {D: danger} that the uh, cements that fall out between those bricks and {X}, {D: spot} could get into the {D: log}.
Interviewer:  Mm. And talking about chimneys, what do y- what do you call that great big tall thing that you see at factories or plants that the smoke comes out #1 of? {C: rooster crowing} #
Aux:  #2 That's smoke stack.{C: rooster crowing} #
Interviewer:  That's smoke stack. {C: rooster crowing}
Aux:  Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: dog howling} we call it {X}{C: dog howling} and you know what {D: same person}.
505:  Yeah you {X} {D: and then come on} {X} {X}{C: dog barking}
Aux:  {X} {C: dog barking}
505:  {NW}
Interviewer:  We were talking about, having a fireplace in the house yesterday.
Aux:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  What do you call that open area right in front of the fireplace?
Aux:  {D: The uh- the uh- the uh fire department,} is uh- is right here. You've got a, you have a little {D: mounting board up there and}, {X} {D: so high that}- why you, put your wood in and you {D: heat it}, {X} fire.
Interviewer:  What what do y- what do you call those big chunks of wood that you put in your fireplace?
Aux:  Back log. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And what about the wood that you use to start it you know the #1 {D: burn wood?} #
Interviewer:  #2 Well that's just #
Aux:  {D: uh}- your smaller wood #1 {D: would be.} #
505:  #2 {X} # {X}
Aux:  It's like you got there and cut down a big tree {X} like that and a {D: larger} according to the what size, you know, fireplace you have. Put them {D: on that an- that-} {D: to hold your} heat, {D: throw your heat out}. Put that big log right there and then, {C: background noise} add your small wood to it and, {C: background noise} {NS} {D: have you a fire} {X} {C: background noise} Sit back and {C: background noise} relax. {C: background noise} {NW}
Interviewer:  Is that small wood the same thing as kindling?
Aux:  Yeah oh {D: I was} kindling and uh just like you're {D: limbs on the} tree and then {X} {D: your big wood you would}, you know {X} it up into small {X} {C: rooster crowing} You add it to that back log you call.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  That back log {D: gets} {X} {D: say uh} we're burning some of my small wood.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  I make {D: put on} back log that, {X} {D: today} and, you had to have mighty cold weather where you was {D: last} {X} just about all day. {C: rooster crowing}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing}
Aux:  But, {C: rooster crowing} in that small wood brought out why you just {D: continue to} add the small wood onto that back log.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  Maybe about, late this evening getting ready for night. That back log probably done burn enough, you pull it to the front and put another one on back there. {X} {D: saving your} smaller wood.
Interviewer:  Well what about those things that you lay the wood across in your fireplace?
Aux:  Dog irons.
Interviewer:  Dog irons.
Aux:  Mm-hmm. {NS}
Interviewer:  And when the- when the wood burns down, what's that stuff that's left? {C: rooster crowing}
Aux:  Those are the ashes.{C: rooster crowing}
Interviewer:  What color are those usually?
Aux:  Uh, {D: tire} gray. Gray ashes. Uh that- {X} just like, you would uh, {NS} cut down a tree or something. {D: burn up that and} know when the, all the coals {X} {C: dog barking} you just gotta be a {X} {C: dog barking} {NW} {C: dog barking} {NS}
Interviewer:  And what about that black stuff you know that'll form on the {C: dog barking} #1 {D: inside?} #
Aux:  #2 And that's # soot. That's uh smoke {D: settling} on the chimney on the uh, pipe, {D: you on}, that uh, you know from the {D: film} where the wood was sitting on the, inside of that pipe. I uh, {D: through the} chimney.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  {X}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Well tell me- tell me about some of the things uh, that you'd have in the best room in your house. You know that people sit in and, things like that.
Aux:  {X} {C: rooster crowing} there'd be couches and {C: rooster crowing} {X} and, these big {D: foam} rockers and, {X} like that. TVs.
505:  {X}
Interviewer:  What's that?
505:  {X} set.
Interviewer:  What is that?
505:  That's a set that goes in this corner {X} just, really just some- some of them big enough- just big enough for two to sit on. {X} {C: rooster crowing}
Aux:  {D: Right.}
Interviewer:  Have y'all ever heard people call {C: dog barking} uh, {C: dog barking} couches anything else {C: dog barking} besides just couches?
Aux:  {NS} Yeah I {X}{C: dog barking} right now.
505:  #1 {X} {C: dog barking} #
Aux:  #2 {X} {C: dog barking} #
505:  {NS}{C: dog barking} Some of them call them {D: devonettes} and uh, some of them call them couches now. Just like uh, that couch I {D: got over there}, it's just a {D: hideaway bed}.
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  The mattress maybe thirty meter on {D: two of them} and all you got to do is unfold it then you take the pillows off. And on the floor {X} see that mattress is made onto a {D: bed}. And then they- they call them hideaway beds.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {D: Uh yes and you is} just like a couch because you got you can fold it up. And it's a mattress is a {X} and you don't know it's a {X} until you let it out.
Interviewer:  Mm.
Aux:  Yeah you. #1 And you can call them some couches some hideaway beds #
505:  #2 Uh. Uh. # and, some sofas. Different things {D: to cover}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  Yeah uh the {D: there are some of the} the couches have made it {D: just} uh, you know.
505:  {X} #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 Sit in it. # And some of 'em well you can either pull 'em and let 'em out to make a bed out of it.
Interviewer:  Well what about some of the things that you'd only have in your bedroom?
505:  {D: Well} mostly in a bedroom you'll have, dresser, {D: chestnut and,} TV, sitting chairs. No {X} sometime do have a {X} rocker and different thing like {X}, what size your room is.
Interviewer:  Mm.
Aux:  Yeah there are a lot of people.
505:  {D: Most is that uh} just the #1 sitting chair in there #
Aux:  #2 {D: All of the} #
505:  one big rocker in there something like that. {D: It's called} {X} what size your room.
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  The way they're building the houses now the room is so small. You can't get too much in one room, #1 because #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  #1 {X}. #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  {NW} #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 In the front of the sides of the house. #
505:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  #1 You have to- #
505:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  your space your living {D: and the stuff} according to the room you have.
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
Aux:  Some people have just, a regular, company room just, maybe a couch and a chair a, table or something like that in there. {D: But then like} you ain't got, room enough you have to, you know, space them around the {X} {D: because of} the uh room.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  You have.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And the place where you hang up your clothes #1 in your bedroom, that's your? #
Aux:  #2 {X} # {X}, and you got the- some- you could have a
505:  #1 Closet? #
Aux:  #2 Chifforobe # and closets and {D: hang them in}.
Interviewer:  Have you ever seen a- a big piece of furniture that you could use just to hang clothes up in?
Aux:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  {D: That wasn't} built into the house.
Aux:  #1 That's right. #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. # {X}
Interviewer:  Well it was called what?
Aux:  {D: Wardrobe.}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
Aux:  The old one was, {X} {D: where y'all hide this log}.
505:  #1 {X}. #
Aux:  #2 {X}. #
505:  {D: teach in between}.
Interviewer:  #1 Alright. #
Aux:  #2 They- # they got them, cut down now
505:  #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {D: and why they're called} #
505:  #1 sometime some of 'em got glass in the doors just like #
Aux:  #2 chifforobes. #
505:  {X} and then some are just plain doors.
Aux:  But the whole- whole uh style it called {D: a wardrobe} They, they, {D: double glass is in it}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  {D: And you say to} open up and just hang your clothes in there. Now they got, chifforobe with the one side you hang your clothes in and, the other side is drawers. #1 You know. #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Aux:  {NS}
Interviewer:  What about these things on- that you have on your window to keep the light out?
505:  #1 Shades? #
Aux:  #2 Uh the window shades. #
505:  {D: They uh- they up} there?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
505:  {D They got little} {X} {D: but it stay up there.}
Aux:  {X}
505:  I got 'em in all my rooms.
Interviewer:  Well what about these things on rollers you know, that you can pull down?
505:  #1 {D: Those are the same #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  #1 things. #
Aux:  #2 those are the window shades. #
Interviewer:  Those are shades
Aux:  #1 Uh-huh. #
Interviewer:  #2 too? # Have you- well what about these things you know that, you can adjust 'em?
505:  {D: Venetian blinds}
Interviewer:  {X}.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Do you have any other of those, blue-
Aux:  No I don't. #1 {X} #
505:  #2 I do. But I ain't got 'em up # #1 I had taken 'em down cause I got tired of them. #
Aux:  #2 You? # {NW}
505:  Yeah.
Aux:  {X}
505:  {D: Couldn't} keep them {D: clean} {X} I got {D: window shades on all my windows} but I- I used to have {X} {C: rooster crowing}
Aux:  {D: Well Venetian blinds} he got two string. One to, hold them in and the other to open them up.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {D: Alright.}
Aux:  {X} on {D: roll-roller} cause you could, put them up but, you- you would just, pull that {D: string} {D: and they would shift} like that. That let the light in then you put it {D: in their close}. {NS} {X} {C: rooster crowing} That's the same {D: question} uh, put it back in, window shade {D: up}.
Interviewer:  Oh yeah. What about some people have a place right at the top of the house, you know they climb up a ladder to get there and they might use it for #1 storing things? #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  Call that a
Aux:  #1 {D: That is uh}, #
505:  #2 attic. #
Aux:  {X} where you go up in the attic. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {C: background noise}
Aux:  That was uh {D: uh so there are} some houses {D: it's been a} {X} {D: later houses} tell me they got uh-
505:  Yup they got #1 that up #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  #1 there you can pull down #
Aux:  #2 {X} # {X}
505:  {X} {X} {C: recording glitch}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  Mm-hmm. {X} (C: glitch again} like that.
Interviewer:  We were talking about, your kitchen though {D: today.}
505:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  {X} {C: glitch} house that who had a kitchen, built away from the main house?
505:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
Aux:  #2 Mm-hmm. # Yeah.
Interviewer:  Was anything, you remember that- what that was called in particular?
Aux:  {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: and a regular} cook kitchen.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  Yeah you j- I've known 'em {X} you have a, a walkway from your {C: rooster crowing} main house out to the, kitchen.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. But what about a room that was built right off the kitchen that you might use to store things in there like, {C: rooster crowing} canned goods or {C: rooster crowing} #1 extra dishes. Something like that? #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. # Mm-hmm. We I had one when I lived in {X}.
Interviewer:  What did you call it?
505:  I called it a shed room.
Interviewer:  Shed room? {C: rooster crowing}
505:  Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} where I kept my {C:rooster crowing} {X} and some like things I didn't use {X}, I stowed back in there. Some folks call it a storage room. {C: rooster crowing} But that's {C: rooster crowing} {D: meaning about the} same thing it does a shed, that you don't use for a bedroom and, I just call it the shed room because uh, most of what was in there was junk.
Aux:  #1 Uh you don't #
Aux:  #2 {X} # Don't use that room for no living quarters. #1 {D: More of it to store things} #
505:  #2 {NW} # #1 Yeah now that's called the shed room. #
Aux:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
505:  {D: But some of 'em} call it a storage room.
Aux:  Mm.
505:  Just like this room at the back here. This is where they're {D: deep freezing} thing in the house small.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
505:  Now I {D: can just see} I got a {D: itch} {D: to tell you cause I don't use them like that and the} {D: heat go} {X}
Interviewer:  #1 So is the- #
505:  #2 {X} # The house is small, and I just call it a storage room. Because that's {D: most like keeping} my old things {D: storage} back there.
Interviewer:  You ever hear- heard people call it just a junk room #1 or something like that? #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  Some of them call it a junk room.
Interviewer:  Junk room?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about, uh when you get up every morning and clean up around the house, this thing that you sweep the floors with?
505:  Broom?
Interviewer:  Have you e- have you ever seen an older fashioned type then the one you have over there?
505:  Mm-hmm. I have someone, they come {D: around} {C: rooster crowing} {NS} homemade. And {X}. {D: Then I} {X} I have seen folks that, you know, {D: poor} like myself they uh, {D: were able to} buy my broom and {D: things is} way back {D: down} when I was {D: a lonely kid}, they would {D: go to the} {X} to the field they call it- you ever seen a {D: sage} broom? You don't know what that is?
Interviewer:  A what kind of room?
505:  {D: Sage} broom.
Interviewer:  Sage broom.
505:  {D: Grow out in the field?}
Interviewer:  Uh I've heard of it, I don't think I've seen one though. {C: rooster crowing}
505:  Well I have seen peoples {C: rooster crowing} {D: that won't even buy a} broom. They'll take that stuff and, put it together and {D: tie} and sweep the house {X} yeah.
Interviewer:  Hmm.
505:  Mm-hmm. And another used to be on uh, just like we bought a broom back {X}. Well I guess {D: I'm gonna have sage broom} making brooms {X} you know? Yeah and most kept the {D: yards shaven though.} {NS} And we used to pay to keep the yard clean.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Cause we had raised geeses and {D: there'd be some in the front you know they had.} {X} And so we um, {D: the stuff you} {X} {D: they was sage broom.} {D: That they get a sage} broom, tie it around {D: as a stick.} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.{C: rooster crowing}
505:  {D: They're like a} {C: rooster crowing} broom wrap it down now and {X}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  I don't know if you- you still do it or not, but used to be that, women just on Monday would do one particular thing. Kind of house work you know?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What did you usually do just on Monday with your, clothes and everything you know?
505:  Well on Monday, well I tell ya what we {D: had to do}. {X} I never coulda had that {D: privilege}. Mother and me {D: were gonna} put them clothes up and hang them up in the sh- we had that closet in there and we had a chifforobe. We would put them clothes up and this time they hung. {X}
Interviewer:  Oh.
505:  {X} #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 {NW} #
505:  {D: Then} mother was at the house. And then she {X} because she would do the cooking, and most time she'd be in {X} with us and stay there about until ten thirty and then she'd go in house and cook. And we didn't have that people to do that you know {D: Steven had to go clean that house up and uh.}
Aux:  Yeah.
505:  Hanging them clothes up in here they hanging them clothes up when you come. {X} {X} You ain't {X} a clothes a {X} {D: be colored clothes wherever you want it.}
Interviewer:  But did she usually do the washing on Monday?
505:  No. She usually didn't do washing {X} #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 Oh. #
505:  last week and a half.
Aux:  {X}
505:  {D: We farming like that} she'd cook you know
Aux:  #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {D: Well we'd} #
Aux:  about {D: Friday} and wash.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  Except you know it rain then you got caught up in the {X} and that, Monday morning was, #1 the main morning you- you- you #
505:  #2 Yeah. #
Aux:  {X}
505:  {X} #1 {X} #
Aux:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  Right.
505:  If it's Monday she's in the garden and you're doing something don't worry yourself.
Interviewer:  How'd you have time enough to get all this done? Say it like you had a lot to do.
Aux:  Well I- {D: I} had a lot to do and uh you would get up and- {D: on time}.
Interviewer:  #1 Oh you had to get up #
505:  #2 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  real
Aux:  #1 Aw ya you'd #
Interviewer:  #2 early. #
Aux:  #1 get up and #
505:  #2 Oh #
Aux:  #1 milk them cows and, #
505:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  feed them hogs. And {D: at around} {D: least} seven o'clock uh both time {D: beforehand}
505:  Mm-hmm we was in.
Aux:  you was in the field.
505:  {X}
Aux:  #1 And, #
505:  #2 {D: that's true}. #
Aux:  {D: chop there and} made it the {D: house} {D: why} she would, {D: quit around} about ten thirty go to house and cook dinner. And the rest of them {D: chop out there} until about eleven thirty, and then you go to house to dinner and {D: eat dinner.} And one o'clock {D: sharp} you were back out there with that hole. {X} {NS}
505:  {D: She's} up in the, {D: his} {X} {D: group} {X}
Aux:  {D: Well} {X}
505:  #1 But if I had to do it over again and place #
Aux:  #2 {X} #
505:  {D: in} where your mother {X} I'd be {D: more like} {X}
Interviewer:  I think that hard work's really good for ya.
Aux:  #1 Y-yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 You might not think it is at the time. #
Aux:  It's- it's- it's it was uh- a great expense. It cause a lots of people to {D: learn} how to save more, and how to earn what you want and still get out there, {D: work till you get a} real job and not {X} {D: robbing you} of what you {X}. {NS} But uh, {X} I said the older people {D: back} {D: there they} was pick on the kid, they had {D: certain} people for you to associate with, and, then when uh, up until you got grown, if you were going out, you had to let them old people know why you were going or why you want to go. You didn't dare say I'm going {D: you had} I want to go see the {X} can I go or do you care?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  And if they permit you to go {D: uh} then you could go and {D: your order was} behave yourself. And you know what that meant. And if they heard it uh {D: may have been} a week after you done gone on your {NW} visit something where you a wrongdoing or acting with some other kid, uh then you had to give him. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm. Mm. Well let me ask you, what do y- what do you call these things that you'd have to go up to get from the yard up on the porch those would be the...
Aux:  Doorstep.
Interviewer:  Just- you call those the #1 doorstep? #
Aux:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  Okay. Well what about if you were in a big house when you had to get from the first floor to the second you'd climb up the-
505:  Stairway.
Interviewer:  Stairway.
Aux:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  So a stairway inside and
Aux:  #1 Doorsteps. #
Interviewer:  #2 doorsteps # #1 outside. #
Aux:  #2 Right. # {NS} {D: Out.}
505:  Have you ever did day labor?
Interviewer:  You mean, you know, physical labor?
505:  Uh-huh. {X}
Interviewer:  I worked, let's see uh well I worked at a- at a packing plant. Meat packing plant and you had to do a lot of physical work #1 there and #
505:  #2 Mm. #
Interviewer:  I worked out on a highway department you know for uh road construction
Aux:  Sure.
Interviewer:  that kind of thing. {NS} Yeah I've.
505:  But you have never did no farm work have
Interviewer:  #1 you? #
505:  #2 No #
Interviewer:  farm work. I was just, I wasn't raised on a farm, #1 but I- I visited #
505:  #2 Mm. #
Interviewer:  I- some relatives on a farm and you know did some farm work when I- when I visited them. But uh, you know they were the ones who raising chickens.
505:  Yes.
Interviewer:  I don't know if I told you about that or not but uh not a {X} period of time.
505:  {D: Well I realize giving} {X}, about it, you don't know nothing about it but if- if I had to just uh, do one kind of work, farm work I {X} public work, I would really rather do farm work. Now everyday, you gotta go do your job but sometimes {D: I didn't}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And this {D: real farm}, {X} the best work on a farm that's a paying good wages {X} {D: you doesn't have to pay as you} {X} I would rather the farm.
Interviewer:  Well a- and again, it's something that you're doing for yourself.
505:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
Aux:  #2 {X} # {X}.
Interviewer:  So you know you take pride in it.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Aux:  {X}
Interviewer:  Ya.
Aux:  {D: Nah} you take uh,
505:  {X}
Aux:  #1 {D: If I'm} #
505:  #2 {X} #
Aux:  working on a {D: corporate} job out there I don't {D: mind if they're either} doing their job, to make the days. But {D: if I'm} out there on the farm working to my own {D: end and} I'm trying to rake that crop or {D: grew} the crop as papa would. {X} {D: If he did I'll} {D: maybe go out there and hand} chop the cotton or something like that {X} Just, {X} why not? {X} {X}