Aux: {X} I have uh, work. {D: I'll probably work} cutting timber, working saw mills, {C: rooster crowing} like that but, always have been a farmer. Never, never get- work a public job. {X} Interviewer: Hmm. Aux: {D: I don't} worked up there {X} and, on the {X} job up there, but the cousin of mine he was a concrete {C: rooster crowing} {D: finisher.} {C: rooster crowing} We'd- we'd {D: pull} one bridge up there, a hundred and twenty-eight feet long. Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {NS} Were you you talking about some work Interviewer: #1 {D: A pretty big one} # Aux: #2 {X}. # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: I'll bet. Aux: Yeah it- {D: as a} {D: I'd say on uh} {D: let's see uh} {C: rooster crowing} highway uh, seventy {D: seven} {D: something I just can't remember what number} but anyway, it's uh six miles up {X} there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: We started on that {D: bridge there in} September. And this was in November when we, {D: got to uh} {D: uh we had to this is}{C: rooster crowing} this is a {D: ditch} {D: coming through here} we {D: went in there and} {D: had done} you know, {X} on up. Then we {D: had to} {D; go there} and {D: grade} this ditch down and then uh, set up {D: farm} and {D: fold this} {D: floor} here concrete. {D: At} where the water come through. Then, set up them farms up here, and pull the wall, {NS} and then {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} the cars and things to pass over top of it all down out here this is {D: where the water} come through, under the bridge. And we- we had that river was a hundred and twenty {D: and a half} feet long. Interviewer: Mm I'll bet you were familiar with every foot out of it weren't ya? Aux: #1 That's right # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: from beginning to end. {C: rooster crowing} {X} And me and my brother {D: both were.} Course I, I started at, Thursday, working and my brother he was working out here {D: pulling on} at the packing plant. And uh, he always was a little weaker, because he had- had {D: pneumonia}. Now I didn't want him in that water. And I {D: told him I said was uh}, I was getting {D: a dollar} and just {D: come and labor} out there, for a dollar and ninety cents now, I think you'd get more money out of {D: that} and then {D: you} {D: won't} be in that {D: waters if} {D: I get you on} uh would you go? He told me yes. {X} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {D: I says I got a brother.} He was still {D: hiring.} {X} Said I got a brother uh would uh- {D: would love to get on} a job if you still hiring. {D: He said uh} {D: when can you bring him?} {D: I said well uh} it'll be Monday. It's around Monday {D: you bring him on.} I came on up there and Monday man hired me {D: and then I worked there} {NS} {D: throughout} all, the time {D: we was building those bridges.} We've, built two bridges, all {X} they would cross the road {D: there.} {D: Plus they're} {D: hard} twenty foot bridges. {D: And they} had some, {D: sewers} you know across the highway uh, {D: part of a sewer} you go through there and you put those concrete {D: caps} you know, {D: over the end of them.} At the last job we was, them was putting the caps on those {D: sewers.} And then, {D: start uh} snowing and, cold weather come. No you couldn't do no good pouring concrete #1 {D: then.} # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah? # Aux: {NS} {D: So quick}. Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {D: So I} got uh, pretty good expense {D: and then on the first uh} {X} job was that type I worked on. {X} It don't take you long. {X} There's nobody to pull you. When you pouring concrete {X} y- you {D: done got in the work} #1 {X}{C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: But now, uh, if {D: that's it} you uh, {D: experience} a {X} and then you can, work to your own advantage {D: on the job}. Now we had a foreman there. I don't think he had- he just had him a good job and uh, he didn't understand {D: as well as uh}- we were {X} {D: the work I did.} But he {D: all year does that}, {X}{C: rooster crowing} And when he start {D to pouring it}, sometimes he poured, you know too stiff. And you had to, take that {X} and {X} it around. {X} He had to take that {X} and {X} around, in the corners and then, level it up like {D: you want.} But then uh, I'll {D: pick} {X} it's called a {D: booster.} You could put enough water in that concrete, why it would be kind of sloppy, you know not too sloppy when it, come out of that, the- 505: Mixer. Aux: uh, shoot. It would kinda spin itself. {D: Then anything called a} {D: booster} you could drop that thing {D: there and} get it started {X} and he would run that concrete. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: around just like you {D: want it}. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: So that {D: saves} a lot of that you know hard muscle work with. {X} Interviewer: All right. Aux: So, he just didn't seem to understand it and then, he l-l-looked like uh I don't know uh he didn't understand like this {D: was a} uh to do it the hard way. Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {X} {D: But in} building that bridge, {NS} {D: you gonna look out for} {C: rooster crowing} yourself ain't nobody else looking out for you. Interviewer: Right. Aux: {X}. I {D: told him} one day, I says now, we are {D: shipped} in this {X} {X} {X} concrete, {X} got a, a {D: two to three} {X} uh we call them uh {X} {C: rooster crowing} concrete {D: set from here across} over there {D: that you could}- have just one or even two or three {X} {D: before you run that}, {D: and left this} and you would have to share with that. I {D: know that's in there.} You- you had enough water come in that concrete {D: let it} {D: turn it over} till you get it stirred up good. Now when it hit that floor, it's no problem to spread it like that. And one day {NW} {D: you take} {D: you chill} I {D: went there and} got that {X} dropped it in there {D: and just started} sticking it down in there {X} concrete run just like you {D: digging} a hole or something. {X} My cousin now he was the concrete. {X} He told me he said uh, that man just don't understand it. I said well, he share the work and I'm gonna use it. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: {D: Then I got}, {X} and dropped it in down {X} better than I can take that {D: say I was scooping it.} And you know they didn't didn't even want you to have a long {X} #1 It # Interviewer: #2 Hmm. # Aux: {D: uh}, in in uh, {X} getting ready to {D: pull} on the ground. You had a {D: show} {X} You had to get {D: half in.} Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {X} Yeah {X} I don't know why they didn't have long. {X} You know this {X} you could, Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: stand up with them but, {X} we had it all {X} and the {D: we'd} been over there all day. {X} Sometime, you'd, come to {X} and see that I ain't doing {D: a thing.} {NW} But {D: it's still in motion.} Interviewer: Well I mean it's pretty rough {D: for ya.} Aux: Yeah oh yeah. Interviewer: Mm. Let me ask you about this expression. Let's say if I've if I came in the do- in the- your front door and I left the door open and you didn't want it to stay that way you'd {X}{C: rooster crowing} door? What about you? Would you say the same Aux: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 thing? # Mm-hmm. Aux: {X} some say close the door some say #1 shut the door it's all the same. # Interviewer: #2 {D: Sure.} # And you said shut the door {D: a lot}? 505: Uh sometime I do. Interviewer: Sometimes you do? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What about on some frame houses uh, on the outside the boards kinda overlap each other like this you know? 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: What kind of board do you call that? Aux: Weather board. Interviewer: {D: Call it}- that's weather board? Aux: Mm-hmm. 505: That's on my house out there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Well what about if- let's say you were doing some carpentry work and you know say like nailing a board uh or something like that. You'd say you- you took the hammer and you, did what to the nail? You- 505: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Aux: {X} or drive it up. Interviewer: Mm okay. What about- what about you- what do you call the thing that covers the top of your house the whole thing- #1 that's your? # Aux: #2 {X} # the our roofing. A good roof on the uh house. {D: Whether it's} metal or, ti- I mean uh, wood, or shingles. {D: He'd already got} what you call a, {D: a sh-} wood {D: shingle}. Then you got a- a paper {shingle.} And then it's just a- a a {X} {C: rooster crowing} {X} but you y- you I've got all three of those to {X} with your metal. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: For your your roofing. {X} Interviewer: Is that what you call it too? The? 505: Mm-hmm shingles. Interviewer: Mm-hmm and the whole thing the- 505: Mm-hmm. Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 The roof? # 505: Mm-hmm. Aux: and put it on wood {D: shingles.} {NS} You have, {D: what we call} {C: car engine} {D: on your rafters} {C: car engine} we call {D: layers} You put them space {X} you know closed up the other while one shingle was {D: reaching} up there too. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: But and then uh {X}{C: rooster crowing} your your paper {D: shingles} you got a solid wall. And then the {D: sanding} go on top {D: and} you call that your {D: decking}, for your paper {D: shingles}. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Well let me ask you this you know, some houses {C: rooster crowing} {D: have}{C: rooster crowing} different slopes of the roof #1 you know? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: What do you call that place where two different slopes come together? Aux: {D: That's the} gutter. Interviewer: That's the gutter? Aux: Uh-huh. Between your {D: rooms} where you start from the {D: corner} and come down {X} just like that {D: kitchen out here} the rafters were this way on {D: it.} And then {D: just put it on this one} {X} but between those two rooms you, have the- a metal piece of tin and you'd start it at the upper {D: corner} come clean down to the outer edge. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And that tin is cut, {D: I mean bent in} a trench like that. And then shingling, {D: uh easier.} {X} That, sand would come clean down in that gutter and that would give that water no chance to go up out of those {D: shingles.} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Oh yeah. {C: rooster crowing} Aux: But {C: rooster crowing} each uh {C: rooster crowing} gutter would bring um, {D: each side} would bring its water down to that gutter to drain it off of the house. Interviewer: Oh yeah. So you call the the things where the slopes meet, {C: rooster crowing} that carries off the water {C: rooster crowing} that's the gutters. {C: rooster crowing} Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 You know on- # Aux: #2 That's right. # Interviewer: on some houses right at the side of the roof they have the same thing Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 just carried along # the sides? Aux: That's right. Interviewer: Is that the gutters too? Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: {X} the gutter. Aux: Yeah some of them go all the way around. They {D: check} the water {X} running back in a barrel or somewhere to the b- uh run the water around to the back. {D: Where it won't} run all over the front. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: But they got uh, you know just {X}{C: rooster crowing} cause I {D: said} there like it is coming over the top. He go down and he'd {D: catch that} water and going {C: rooster crowing} around through the back. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} Let me ask you before you had indoor plumbing, you'd have a, maybe a toilet out back somewhere or something like that? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: What did you call that? 505: Outdoor {D: restroom}{C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: {D: The restrooms?} 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: You ever heard people call it anything else? 505: Yeah some call it a- Aux: Bathroom. 505: a a bathroom some call it a toilet and some call it an outdoor restroom. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Have you ever heard people call it outhouse or- 505: Mm-hmm.{C: rooster crowing] {X}{C: rooster crowing} mm-hmm. Interviewer: It's all the same thing? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: {NS} Yeah, well what about {C: rooster crowing} y'all- y'all know a lot about farms. What about some of the the different types of buildings you'd see on on farms around here? Aux: {NS} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: most of them} was uh just, {D: call them frame houses} {D: to some- well} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: Near the back there's a lot of them} {C: rooster crowing} {D: with the long houses.} Interviewer: #1 Mm. # 505: #2 I told him the house # {D: that he was born in was} Aux: {NW}. 505: #1 {D: some of it} # Aux: #2 Yeah. # 505: #1 {D: long.} # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah. # #1 Well # Aux: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: what about the the buildings that you'd keep the animals in? What would? Aux: {NS} {D: That would be uh the} {C: rooster crowing} stock barn. But some people call them {D: crib} but {D: you put your} {C: rooster crowing} {X} while you put your corn and hay in but, the animal barn all built you know #1 {D: surrounded.} # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NS} Would you have anything besides a corn crib {C: rooster crowing} where you'd keep grain? Just any? Aux: Oh yeah you you had {C: rooster crowing} uh people that {X} at the time they had wheat bin, cotton seed bin. {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: all they run the same ship there} around the barn. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: But you had bins where you'd {C: rooster crowing} {D: well you know the grain that you would harvest}. 505: Have you ever seen the? {X} Interviewer: I don't think that- {C: rooster crowing} {NS} {C: rooster crowing} 505: Well my father use to have one and he would build a shed up over it. Something to- {D: like a house top like this and}, and box it in all around there and he'd make {X} kind of like a trough but there'd be, you know {X} you know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: And you put that down in ground and then you go out, up through the up there by the {D: kitchen area you know.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: And then he would {D: make us get}, {D: straw} and {D: corn stalks} and thing and {D: bring them and}, he would {D: pour them taters} in there and then- and then he'll put {D: 'em in and then you'd put a lid} on top of that. Interviewer: Mm. 505: Them taters stay there over and never {D: freeze.} Interviewer: Is that right? Well tell me about places where you keep grain. Have you ever heard anybody call a place like that a granary? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Is that right? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What- just- {D: keep}- just about any kind of grain Aux: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 {D: in there?} # {NS} What about, when uh- after you got through cutting the {D: hay} {C: chicken clucking} instead of baling it, C: chicken clucking} you might just pile it up in a big pile in the field? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 What would you call # that? You'd say you had a #1 what? # Aux: #2 I # uh, not {X} with uh {D: me.} {D: But you call} uh, hay {D: shock} And some of them was uh. {X} A {D: shock} they would get them up poles, and dig a hole there in the ground {C: rooster crowing} {D: and get you a long pole} and just, put that hay all around that pole and pack it down {X} {D: why their foot} would have a bigger pole on the ground you know uh, why the water would run through under it. {D: Would ruin the hay}. Yeah you put that hay down {D: there} and pack it down there. And when you got the pipes you wanted you have most of your grass type of hay. Interviewer: {NW} Aux: Put that on top of that and just kinda you know {NS} {D: top it all while}, the grass would be on top. And that hay was set down {X} and that grass is uh {D: rain} if it were to come, would run that water off the top and you go ahead and take that top cap off, now here you gots to put them {D: right around back.} {X} Interviewer: Is that right? Aux: That's right. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: And {D: in other words} you can uh, just put down a long {X} the same way. If you'd unload it off your wagon, somebody place it on that {X} but you have it without {X} with a, a {D: follow-up to it.} Have it high {D: in the middle of all that} water would {D: drain to the outer edge.} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: And when you pack it down there and it {X} put that {D: uh I see that} grass capping over top of it Interviewer: {NW} Aux: and you'd be {D: going around} in the spring year and, and after all there was, and he stayed out there and would not been {X} just that grass. And lift it up. {X} Interviewer: Do people around here have any thing- any kind of frame or- or shelter they might put hay under if they weren't gonna put it in the barn? Aux: #1 Mm yeah yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Aux: {D: uh we call it} {C: rooster crowing} hay shed. {D: I've} got uh, two down there cause I don't uh {D: eat uh} well I do put some hay {D: you know.} {X} But I've mostly, bale my hay and I put it up in the {D: loft}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And then uh, have the shed that I put my cows and hogs to {NS} be in in the winter time {D: get them out of the weather.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {NS} Do you have any particular kind of name for just smaller piles of hay that've been swept up in the field or anything like that? Aux: Ya they- they call those uh shocks. Interviewer: #1 Shocks? # Aux: #2 Shocks # of hay. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: Now in years back} people used to do that but they don't {X} they don't do that anymore. You used to go out there and mow that hay down, let it lay there until you say about a day and a half depends upon what type of hay it was. {D: rooster crowing} Then you go down and rake it up in {D: windrows.} Then we'd go out there and take pitch forks and, shock that hay up in shocks, so high. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Then you'd go there and make another shock. {D: Let it set down} that shock {X} {C: rooster crowing} we were, two or three weeks at a time {C: rooster crowing} {D: alone in that}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And {D: you'd set down that} shock until you go back down and bale it. Then we would uh, have what you called a {NS} {D: take a wagon} {C: rooster crowing} unload that uh hay {X} to the baler {D: while you gonna bale it at.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Then, we uh- we had a- we call a hay ra- uh sweep rake. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: You put a {X} to it. {X} Space about as wide as this room {X} one over there, and it had, prongs on uh. {C: rooster crowing} {X} You just, run it right around the bottom of that shock of hay. Pick it up {D: and go up to the next shock} until you get about three four shocks {C: rooster crowing} {D: on there}{C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {X}. Let them {D: prong} down and {D: you backs out of.} {X} Then the {D: man} at the baler would, you know, feed that hay on the bailer. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Aux: And he'd call it a {D: sweep rake}. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: #1 He'd # Interviewer: #2 What's? # Aux: haul that {X} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NS} # Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} or these here gasoline presses {C: rooster crowing} wer- were stationary before we had the pick-up type of baler. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Well what about the building that you might keep your cows in if you didn't wanna have them outside? You'd call that just a? Aux: I uh cow stalls, stall for your cows. Lots of people have just a shed you know? {X} {C: rooster crowing} some have separate stalls {D: where you} feed your cows. I got, in mine I got a, a trough built down, where you can give them grain then. Then I got a hay rack, that goes down to the wall and put that hay in the rack. {X} {C: rooster crowing} so you can feed them grain in it {D: and either} throw that hay in the rack and, they can't pull that hay out you know just about {X} #1 {D: mostly had} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: to pull it, have slack like that and they- while they reach their mouth through there, and then they {D: uh try to eat} most of the hay they pull out {D: of their wall} #1 pull it on the ground # Interviewer: #2 {D: Right.} # Aux: {D: tramp} it all #1 under feet. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Mm-hmm. What about if you had some horses would you keep them uh, in a separate building or #1 along- # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: What would you Aux: #1 {D: That is} {C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: #2 call it? {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: {X}{C: rooster crowing} each {D: view} would have a stall and when you {D: started} feeding well they'd all {X} {D: this door here} {X} {D: know his own} stalls just like, you know why you {D: slept} #1 at his own. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 and we # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 {D: had the frame} # Interviewer: #2 That's right. # Aux: {D: they'll} go in their stall. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Well what about your {C: rooster crowing} {D: hogs} you- you keep them in a? Aux: {D: Well the hogs} if you have a, a shed or something {D: then they all will} just go in there {D: huddle together} you know {X}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Well if you have some straw or something in their {D: bed and keep going.} Laying on {D: the} just the {D: naked} ground in the winter time. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: And they go} {D: hell you put that straw there they'll make their own bed.} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: #1 Yeah. # Aux: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Yeah. Well what about a farm that you just raised uh cows on you know for milk and butter? You'd call that what kind of farm? Aux: #1 {D: Uh} # 505: #2 Dairy- # Aux: dairy farm. Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of a {C: rooster crowing} you know, before you had much refrigeration people might take the milk and butter down to a stream or somewhere where it's cool you know to keep it so it wouldn't spoil? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What would- what- did you call that anything? Aux: #1 Well uh # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Aux: {D: in-in} I was growing up we didn't have a {C: rooster crowing} {D: spring} or nothing like that. {D: Mama would have us to} take a {D: tube} and draw water and then she would take that {D: churn of} milk and set it into {C: rooster crowing} this uh,{C: rooster crowing} tube of water. Interviewer: Mm. Aux: And that would the way we had to keep our milk cool. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: And we had a- a- a well cause {NS} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: happened} to my grandmother's place that. {X} She had some wa- uh milk {NS} in a {D: jug and let it} down in the well to keep it cool, and I don't know someone {D: may be drawing water} {C: rooster crowing} forgot it and that bucket hit that jug and broke it and that {D: run the well of} the water. Interviewer: Mm. Aux: So we had to, fill up that well and dig {D: the water that's} down there, but they never did. {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} Aux: You {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: put them in a} tub and set that {X} {D: of} water in the tub to keep it cool. Interviewer: Well, talking about the farm, what would you call that open place that you might have around the barn where the animals might walk around or-or something?{C: rooster crowing} 505: {D: The lot?} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: That'd be the lot? {C: rooster crowing} 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Or what about the open place where your cows graze at the uh? Aux: #1 Pasture. # 505: #2 Pasture. # Aux: {D: The cow pasture}. Interviewer: Was that usually fenced in? Aux: Yeah. Yeah. 505: {D: And another pasture.} {X} {D: Just finished getting the} hogs and cows {D: whatever I have.} {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: It's um} {D: too bad} {C: rooster crowing} {D: that uh} {C: rooster crowing} three or four {D: wire} fence, you know, for the cows with the your grazing {D: hogs} they probably have hog proof wire and uh {D: cattle wire.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: On top of your, have hogs and cows all in the same pasture. {X} {D: two of you.} {X} Interviewer: Now is that the kind of wire you're talking about that has those sharp little points {X}{C: rooster crowing} 505: {D: That's about right.} {C: rooster crowing} Mm that's the- {D: you can} {X} Aux: #1 Just the same # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: you know with those barbs on it. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: Uh it as I said uh {C: rooster crowing} {D: fence made with that} {C: rooster crowing} you would uh, {NS} see how {X} about that low to the ground and there was about six inches {D: on.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: Depending upon how you stop it} some people, {X} {C: rooster crowing} keep your cows in there and they wouldn't break out but then {D: your cows} {X} they usually have from three to four strands of that barbed wire. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: And fencing.} Then, over there is in the {D: path you always nail your}{C: rooster crowing} wire on the inside {C: rooster crowing} of your pasture. So when your cows go {D: l-} {D: reach through there they} press against the poles they ain't get- press against the. {X} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Well what about in the days before you had much wire fence, then what kind of fences did you have? {X} {C: rooster crowing} Aux: {D: Well uh}- {C: rooster crowing} 505: Rail fence. Interviewer: Rail fence? Aux: Uh yeah back {X} {D: those big rail.} Cause {X} too many people have uh, no cows to {C: rooster crowing} pasture and that type of fence {D: if you did it} was, {D: such a} a large {D: area why} you didn't have too much {D: no} finishing to do. Maybe, uh me and you live, on the same farm and, we all get together and fence in the {C: rooster crowing} {D: woodlot} {C: rooster crowing} pasture, and then {D: everybody's} cows, that's why they stay #1 there. # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah. # Aux: If you want {D: you} a smaller pasture for mainly your {X} {C: rooster crowing} you kept them in the small {D: lodge} here at the house and the {X} {D: cows are} {D: gonna move} to the bottom. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Mm.{C: rooster crowing} Talking about fences, have you ever seen the- this type of fence that some people ha- might have around the- their front yard or their garden. It's usually not as big and sturdy as a rail fence and it's, you know some of them painted white? 505: Mm-hmm. Aux: #1 Uh. # 505: #2 {D: Plank}. # Interviewer: {D: Plank} fence? Aux: That's right. {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: where a friend} {X} {D: of mine} used to live. {NS} He uh, bought that place, after {X} {D: died} and uh, he got him a, 505: Plank Aux: #1 a # 505: #2 fence. # Aux: plank fence. Interviewer: Is that the same thing as some people call it picket fence? Have you ever heard that? Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} 505: {X}{C: rooster crowing} {D: I heard about} Aux: #1 Ya. # 505: #2 {D: that.} # The picket fence Aux: #1 Yeah # 505: #2 {X}. # Aux: that's same 505: #1 Sometime # Aux: #2 thing. # 505: {D: now} they just, fix different ways. Some of us fix it like a "X" you know and they call it a picket fence Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah. # 505: #2 {D: you know?} # (D: Up in there there's} planks there but they got it, got a {X} you know, {D: type} on top of them planks. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: They just {D: uh you know} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: a {X} but it's. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Anyway- have you ever seen uh, {C: rooster crowing} any f- uh walls or fences or anything like that made out of loose stone or rock around here? Aux: #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # 505: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: {X} {C: rooster crowing} that much around Aux: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 here? # What about the stuff that your best dishes are made out of? You call that your? 505: China? Interviewer: Have you ever seen a an {D: egg} made out of something like that that, uh you might try- you might put under a hen to try and get them to lay? {C: rooster} 505: #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: #1 That's not a real egg? # 505: #2 {X} # #1 Yes. # Aux: #2 Artificial # egg. 505: Mm-hmm yes {X} My mother-in-law used to have a lots of #1 them yeah. # Aux: #2 Oh. # Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {D: I know uh} # {D: peoples} that used to raise uh, a plant. It would grow {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: and they would, use them for those artificial egg and put them in the hen nest and take all the eggs out and leave that in there for, what you call a nest egg. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Well what about if you were going to milk your cows what would you take with you to catch your milk in? {C: rooster crowing} Aux: A bucket or what you call {X} milk pail. Interviewer: Mm. So uh is a m- is a pail and a bucket the same thing? Aux: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Aux: You just use that for you know a certain {D: purpose or milk in there}. Interviewer: Well what about this thing that you might keep around your kitchen to throw scraps in or something like that for your {D: home}? {C: rooster crowing} Aux: {X}{C: rooster crowing} Call it uh {C: rooster crowing} garbage can or {D: slop.} 505: #1 {D: Bucket yeah.} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: bucket- Interviewer: Slop bucket? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Mm. Well what about this thing that you would uh, use in the kitchen to fry eggs or ham in, something like that? 505: Skillet? Interviewer: That your skillet? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: {D: Is that the same thing as a frying pan?} {C: rooster crowing} 505: Frying pan? Aux: Fry- #1 of course now your frying pan, it's a lighter # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 uh, uh build than your skillet is. # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Do either one of them have legs? 505: Some of them do. Aux: Uh yeah yeah they they uh 505: #1 {D: Old type do.} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 Old {C: rooster crowing} # type. {C: rooster crowing} {C: Cause there'd be} {C: rooster crowing} legs on them, but, some of them are called {D: oveners.} 505: Mm. Aux: They had legs on them long just about size of a {X} and then you had a lid top to it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: You'd- the older people used to cook on them. They'd make up the {D: dough} cut out the {D: biscuit and} put it in and put that {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} on them, {C: rooster crowing} and put it down at the fireplace. And just put them on the embers on it and on top of that oven. {D: It would brown your biscuits like it would in a cook stove}. Interviewer: Have you ever heard people call that a spider or something like that or a baker? Aux: Yeah. {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Well what about you were telling me yesterday about these big black wash pots, 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 sometimes # you see out back? Is there anything that's like a pot except might be a little smaller that you could use inside a, I don't know maybe a {C: rooster crowing} {D: boil tea in it and it might have a spout} {C: rooster crowing} you know something like 505: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 that? # 505: {D: soak} pot. Aux: {X} pot, and then they got the. 505: {D: Tea cup}. Aux: {D: Get your uh} cook pot's what you, cook {X} cause most people now have a {X} {C: rooster crowing} cook. {X} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: But those are {D: regular} {D: part} that they cooked in that we {D: raised on it.} {D: They-} we have one of them at the house down there. {C: rooster crowing} Black just like the wash pot {C: rooster crowing} is it. Put it on the f- cook stove uh, oh, {D: in uh the uh} {D: heating systems here.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Cook. And food had much better {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Is that right? Aux: {D: You're doing things now.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. What do you- what would you c- if you have some uh- if you went out and picked some flowers or something like that, what would you call the thing that you'd put the flowers in and put up on the counter or something like that? {C: rooster crowing} 505: Vase? Interviewer: That'd be your vase? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Is there any difference between a vase and the thing that you might uh grow your flowers in? 505: Yeah. Interviewer: The uh? 505: Well- Aux: {D: I'll tell you} #1 {X} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: what you grow your #1 flower # 505: #2 Vase # Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 your flower pot- # 505: #2 {X} # {X} be your vase what you put {X} Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} sitting on a dresser you know and see flowers there on a table. {X} {D: Wander around there in the house} {D: getting me flowers but} your vase and then your flower pots. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Well what about some of the utensils, you know that you have at your table {C: rooster crowing} to eat with uh, during a meal you'd have your? 505: Spoon, knife, and fork. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: okay. Now wh- what about when you uh {NW} after you get through with a meal and you have to wash your dishes? What do you call tha- that cloth or rag that you use to wash the dishes with? 505: #1 {D: Cup towel}. # Aux: #2 {D: Dish towel.} # Interviewer: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} {C: rooster crowing} you know to handle your hot skillets and things with. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And then they got a regular cloth that they wash dishes with. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Drying cloth and, then. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Is that what you call {C: rooster crowing} the ones you dry the dishes with, the drying 505: #1 {D: Cup towel.} # Interviewer: #2 cloth?. # Cup towels same thing? Well what about this cloth that you might use uh when you're taking a bath, about hand sized you know? Aux: Bath cloth. 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Bath cloth? 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And the big one that you dry off with thats the? {C: rooster crowing} 505: Bath towel. Interviewer: That's the bath towel? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What about this thing that uh water comes out of, uh on your kitchen sink, you'd call that the what? Aux: {D: Your hydrant}. Interviewer: That'd be the hydrant? Is that what you would call it too? {C: rooster crowing} Well what about the thing that water comes out {C: rooster crowing} you know in your front yard, what would that be? 505: #1 {D: That's the hydrant, that's the outside hydrant.} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # That's the outside hydrant? #1 Or something? # 505: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: #1 Well what- {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 Yeah I {C: rooster crowing} # {D: I want} {C: rooster crowing} my old well. We used to draw water when I got {D: you know} more of them put on there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And then I would put running water to the kitchen. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And I got a {X} {C: rooster crowing} while I was running water to get to the {D: stalk} {C: telephone ringing} and then the {C: telephone ringing} {D: same as a hydrant} connected {D: to get} water in to the kitchen. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} water in the house for washing and to put where you need #1 and, # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: the other went out {D: in the lot} for the livestock. {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Well you've-you've probably seen these portable water containers {D: or jugs or something like that you know} {C: rooster crowing} and some of them have #1 this little thing that you can # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #1 press and water will run out. # 505: #2 {D: Water faucet.} # Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Do you call-do you call that a faucet? 505: Mm. Interviewer: {D: Over that too?} 505: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: Uh- yeah it's a f-} you mean just like uh 505: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {D: where they keep} # the cold water {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} #1 that's the water fountain. # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: We, had one at the church uh- 505: No he mean this water {X} for the #1 kitchen you already got a little # Interviewer: #2 Right. # 505: {X} Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} 505: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: You ever heard people call those things that the water comes out of on those portable containers spigots, or something like that? 505: Mm some of them call them {X} {C: rooster crowing} #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Mm-kay. Well what about uh, you know you might get up one morning during the winter and it- it might've been so cold that when you turn on the water nothing comes out and you'd say like like well my goodness it got so cold last night {C: rooster crowing} that the pipes? {C: rooster crowing} Aux: #1 Freeze up. # 505: #2 Freeze. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. 505: Mm-hmm. {X}- Aux: My {X} #1 {NW} # 505: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What happens to them usually when it- that they just uh, the pipes uh, Aux: Burst? Interviewer: Is that what causes Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 them? # 505: #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # 505: {X} {C: rooster crowing} {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: You can get some uh container, something like a faucet {D: there's something} {D: in the hole up in} in the {D: middle of that ice and you'd break it loose and then.} {X} But when it's really cold you know it's gonna be cold like the one last month. If you just let that faucet just. {C: rooster crowing} {X}{C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Well what about if you were gonna buy a fairly large a- amount of lard or molasses or something like that what would it probably come in? Aux: Well uh, it did used to uh {D: you'd get} lard come in cans. {C: rooster crowing} {NS} {D: Lard cans} {C: rooster crowing} And they got uh you know different size now buckets. {D: Can oh thirty-five uh} pounds {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} buckets that the lard come in now. Interviewer: A lot of flour would used to come in a? Aux: {D: Oh yeah.} 505: {X} Aux: A-and the lard too. {X} {C: rooster crowing} they used to get their lard by 505: {D: Barrel?} Aux: {D: Barrel} just like they do the flour, but all that is {D: done away with.} {D: Now they} got paper bags Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah. # Aux: #2 and, # 505: #1 {D: And they you know they used t-} # Aux: #2 paper sack # 505: they used to call them {X} Aux: {X} 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: {X}{C: rooster crowing} have you ever heard people call uh, uh, refer to anything as a stand of anything? #1 A stand of lard or a stand of molasses? # Aux: #2 Mm. Mm-hmm. # 505: That's the twenty-five pound stand of lard and Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: and a twenty- Aux: #1 {X}, # 505: #2 five pound- # Aux: {D: years back uh}, {X} {C: rooster crowing} {X} would put that lard in {D: barrels and things} your {D: barrel.} It was substantial enough you know to hold that {D: lard but} {D: down}, {D: but anyways} the can and {D: shifting it around} it would {X}{C: rooster crowing} a wooden crate built around those lard stand just big enough to you know protect that lard . #1 And you'd # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: {D: sit in the}{C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {NW} in case it {D: throwing it} around {D: while that}- you wouldn't, you know {D: bend up your can or spill the lard}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: That wood frame around {D: would protect it.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Well let's say if you were trying to pour something {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} into a {C: rooster crowing} a large container into a small mouth bottle? What would you probably have to pour it through you know to keep from spilling all over #1 the place? # Aux: #2 A faucet. # Interviewer: Is that right? 505: Faucet. {C: whispered} Interviewer: Is that the same thing as what some people wanna call a funnel or #1 something like that? # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #1 Same thing. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm # faucets. Interviewer: Same thing? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What if you were driving a- a buggy {C: rooster crowing} and uh {C: rooster crowing} you wanted your horses to go faster? {C: rooster crowing} What would you use to? Aux: Buggy whip. Interviewer: Buggy whip? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {D: Crack around} #1 {X} # 505: #2 {NW} # #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # Yeah that's, {D: take it from anyone} #1 {X}. # 505: #2 I'll bet you got many # different things in a {D: buggy ain't ya?} Interviewer: Beg pardon? 505: I meant you got many different things {X} Interviewer: Many different things is 505: #1 {D: I'm pretty sure} # Interviewer: #2 that right? # 505: I- I'm sitting here looking at you #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 505: I see you. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 505: Now did you uh did you do- did you do that book yourself? Interviewer: Oh no, this was- this was done by {D: pretty similar people.} {C: rooster crowing} The man who's {C: rooster crowing} who's the head of the project. {C: rooster crowing} 505: Yeah. Interviewer: collaborated on it. These uh- these uh basically the same types of questions have been used in these other interviews across the country like in the {C: rooster crowing} New E-New England states, the eastern states, and- {C: rooster crowing} and the Midwestern states 505: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {D: here}. # So you see by using the same questions in different {D: persons} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} we can {C: rooster crowing} make comparisons {C: rooster crowing} like that. 505: That's what you do. {X} Interviewer: #1 Hmm. # Aux: #2 Yeah. # 505: And you {X} I tell him yesterday I was like {D: tells everybody} {X} what you told me twenty-six? Interviewer: Twenty-seven. 505: Twenty-seven. I told him I said I know you {X} kid. Aux: Yeah. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 {NW} {C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: {NW} 505: But he's got a good job and uh- what'd you say you did that for? Interviewer: I- it's a- this is a- an independent research project to- it's a- it's a study of uh, native speech, you know of people who live in- in various {C: rooster crowing} communities in- in about eight southern states. Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: This is- that's what I'm doing all this summer I'm, traveling around, I'll be working in, here in Tennessee and uh Mississippi, and Arkansas, and Texas. {X} {C: rooster crowing} Talking to people like- like you two. 505: Yeah. Interviewer: Trying to find out something, you know, a few things about, various things. Aux: {D: All the words} they uh, that uh {X} with {X} a {D: kind of individual}, what type of life that he's been familiar with. Farming Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah # Aux: #2 or? # Interviewer: sure. Aux: {D: And all like that?} Interviewer: Right. Aux: {D: Whether you were} {D: experienced in life.} Interviewer: #1 Right. # Aux: #2 Different # type of work and, but not. Interviewer: Right, right how he what he- what- how he describes various things what {C: rooster crowing} Aux: Sure. Interviewer: You know that sort of thing. That's what- that's what I'm interested in. Aux: #1 Alright. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Well what about uh, you mentioned a- a sack a minute ago. What about this uh, this sack that's made out of kind of rough, heavy, coarse material uh, I don't know sometimes you might get fertilizer or something like that in it? Aux: {D: Cotton} sack, {D: and then} you got what we call a {D: grass} sack. You get uh different type of grain or something in it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And your {D: cotton} sack that's what we {D: you'd pick} cotton in. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: Uh} from a six to a nine foot sack. It's uh, what you call {D: that uh} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} was made out of. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: But now the {D: grass} sack it's uh about three foot or under. Got different {D: size.} {D: But} from uh, a two and a half {D: bushel} {C: rooster crowing} {NS} grain sack, up to a five bushel. {X} Oats- excuse me, the oat sack they used to bring them and {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And uh {D: I uh}, other smaller grain corn {X} two bushels. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Uh two and a half bushels {D: is.} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Now is that the kind of sack that some people call a crocker sack? Aux: #1 That's right. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Some people call them crocker sack some call them {D: grass} sack. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: It's the sa- that's the Interviewer: #1 Same thing? # Aux: #2 same thing. # Interviewer: Well what about if you had to take some corn to {C: rooster crowing} the mill, what would you call the amount of corn you'd take at one time? {C: rooster crowing} Uh you'd say that's a? {C: rooster crowing} Aux: Well uh- a bushel? Interviewer: A bushel Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 or? # Have you ever heard people say something like a {D: turn} of corn or? Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: How much is that? Aux: #1 Well # Interviewer: #2 A turn- # Aux: a {D: turn} of corn, is uh, {D: see if you carry a a} a bushel {D: there that's} {D: the turn} {D: you carrying} to the mill. Interviewer: #1 Oh I see. # Aux: #2 But # now you got uh {C: rooster crowing} um {X} of corn. But I mean uh said you carry a bushel I uh- maybe I carry two bushels {D: I carry a barrel} of corn up there {D: a barrel of corn} that's five bushel. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Right. {X} What about the, if you were gonna going outside you know and hanging up your clothes, 505: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 let them # dry, what would you probably carry 'em out there in? 505: I have um have a basin, a wash basin. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: {X} {C: rooster crowing} clothes {D: pin on them} container. I take it out and I got a mat out there and I {D: hang them up}. When I hang them up I put a pin in there, clothes pin in there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: And they'd {D: best stay right there} until you take them {D: on loose.} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: What about if your uh, if your lamp uh went out or something like that. What would you have to {C: rooster crowing} {D: replace in it?} {C: rooster crowing} 505: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: You'd have to unscrew the? {C: chicks chirping} 505: Uh wick? {C: chicks chirping} Interviewer: The wick or the {C: chicks chirping} uh? {C: chicks chirping} Aux: #1 {D: Burner} {C: chicks chirping} # 505: #2 Take that {C: chicks chirping} # burner and put that wick up through the burner and {C: chicks chirping} put your oil in your {D: lamp.} Interviewer: #1 What do you call # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 what do you call # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: that oil that you burn in it? 505: {D: coal oil right?} Interviewer: {D: Coal oil?} Aux: #1 {D: Coal oil or} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: kerosene. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: What about one that runs off electricity you know? You'd have to replace the? 505: The bulb? Interviewer: The light bulb? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: On one of those, yeah. Talking about barrels a minute ago, what do you call these metal things you know that run around the staves, that hold the staves together? Aux: Hoop? Interviewer: Those your? Aux: Barrel Interviewer: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 hoop. # Interviewer: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Well what about if you were bottling something in a narrow mouth bottle, what might you put in the neck of the bottle to keep? {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Aux: {D: A funnel.} {X} Interviewer: Is that the same thing as some kind of cork or something like that? Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 that's what # 505: #2 {D: most days} # Aux: you stop the bottle up Interviewer: #1 Right. # Aux: #2 with the # {D: bottle cork would.} Interviewer: Right. Aux: And {D: pouring the liquid in.} {C: rooster crowing} #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: #2 Right. # #1 Right # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: right. You might I don't know you might've played one of these before but a lot of people have this instrument you know they play with their mouth? Aux: Uh-huh. Interviewer: And then what do you call those things? Aux: #1 Jews # 505: #2 Harp. # Aux: harp. Interviewer: Harp? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Now a harp and a Jews harp that's not the same thing- 505: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 No. # 505: Jews harp Aux: #1 Yeah a harp uh # 505: #2 that's uh. # Aux: {D: Yeah} a Jews harp you pick it. {C: rooster crowing} #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # 505: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # {X} Aux: #1 It's got # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: notes on it kind of like uh {X} and #1 you know # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah. # Aux: {D: that you play.} #1 But you # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Aux: you blow that with your mouth. Interviewer: Yeah. {C: rooster crowing} Yeah. {C: rooster crowing} Aux: A Jews harp is a uh you pick it. Interviewer: Uh-huh. {C: rooster crowing in the distance} #1 Uh I # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: I asked you what you'd, uh about nails and driving nails and all that, that thing that you drive nails with that's your? {C: chicks chirping} Aux: A hammer. {C: rooster crowing} Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: I wanna ask you a- uh, a little bit about wagons. You know, that thing that goes between the horses? {C: rooster crowing} That long wooden #1 thing, that's your what? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # 505: #1 {D: Tongue.} # Interviewer: #2 Wagon # Aux: #1 {D: tongue.} # Interviewer: #2 That's # the {D: tongue.} Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Well what about if you had a buggy? {C: chicks chirping} You'd have to back the horse? {C: chicks chirping then rooster crowing} {X} Aux: #1 {D: Shaft.} # 505: #2 {D: Shaft.} # Interviewer: {D: The shaft} of the buggy. 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And, say a wagon wheel right in the middle you got the {C: chicks chirping} the middle of a {C: chicks chirping} Aux: #1 wheel that's- # Interviewer: #2 The hub. # That's the hub. Aux: {D: All your} spokes go #1 into. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # And the spokes come out from it. Aux: That's right. Interviewer: And the- the- the very outer edge of the wheel you call? {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} #1 {D: The what is it called?} {C: rooster crowing} # 505: #2 Felloe. {C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: The felloe? 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And that's- that's the rim {C: chicks chirping} of the? {C: chicks chirping} Aux: {D: And then you have} {D: your tire} goes over that {X} that's the steel {C: chicks chirping} part go around that wood {C: chicks chirping} {NW} {C: rooster crowing} {D: that's in there.} Interviewer: Oh. Well what do you call the thing that the traces come back to {C: chicks chirping} {D: when attached to it?} {C: chicks chirping} Aux: #1 Uh # 505: #2 Tree the. # Aux: Singletree. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} 505: #1 {D: You say what} {C: chicks chirping} # Aux: #2 {X}{C: chicks chirping} # 505: {D: the doubletree is?} {C: chicks chirping} Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Doubletree {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: #1 Two horses you have it. {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # #1 One on one side is # 505: #2 Doubletree. # Aux: Singletree fastened to your doubletree. Interviewer: {NS} Oh yeah. {C: chicks chirping} What about if you saw a- {C: chicks chirping} a man going down the road in his wagon and he had a load of wood that {C: chicks chirping} {X} {C: rooster crowing} come back a little bit later {C: rooster crowing} and it'd be empty and then he'd be going back again with another load, you'd say he's doing what? {C: chicks chirping} Aux: #1 Hauling wood. # 505: #2 Hauling wood. # Interviewer: Hauling wood. You haul a lot of wood in your time? Aux: Aw ya. {C: chicks chirping} {NW} Interviewer: {X} Okay. Well you were talking about uh uh well y- your brother is uh out in the field right now {D: doing the} {C: chicks chirping} plowing. {D: Where there- are there} different types of plows that you can use to break up the ground? Aux: #1 That's right. # 505: #2 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #1 What are some- what do you call the ones you use to break it up at first? # Aux: #2 {X} # Uh that's the uh {D: turning} plow. Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {D: But that uh} we'll use them and we we use them but, {D: here and there it's} {X} {D: tractor} Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah. # Aux: #2 plow. # #1 {D: Waited all} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Aux: year for this you know same type of {C: chicks chirping} Interviewer: #1 Right. # Aux: #2 {X}. # Interviewer: Well is there uh- a different type of plow you can use to break it up finer? Aux: Well uh, {NW} {D: disk it.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: You got uh {X} {C: rooster crowing} a {D: mule disc} you could take that {D: mule disc} and {D: disc} that ground, and then {D: breaking but}, now you got a {D: tractor dish} you cut it up with and then break it. Interviewer: Oh yeah. #1 Is that the same thing as a # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {D: harrow?} Aux: #1 No. {C: rooster crowing} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # What is that? {C: rooster crowing} Aux: The harrow #1 is what you use after you done broke it. That's # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 tear that ground up fine to keep it # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: {D: pulverized} {D: why it won't be} {X} you know. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Get ready to {X} either. Just like if you break some ground and uh, {C: rooster crowing} {X} {D: turn dry} you go down and {D: harrow} that ground and that {D: harrow} will {D: pulverize and} farm that {C: chicks chirping} uh broke ground to keep it from, {C: chicks chirping} you know, {C: chicks chirping} {D: clodding.} Interviewer: Oh yeah. {C: chicks chirping} Aux: Mm-hmm. {C: chicks chirping} And when you get ready to {C: chicks chirping} {X} while you {X} {X} too. {C: rooster crowing} 505: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Aux: {D: O-over your} {C: rooster crowing} land is {D: the} {X} will, l- you know leave it. {X} But now you {X} hold that {D: more things than} {X} {C: rooster crowing} now you've got more up there. {C: rooster crowing} 505: They got some {D: little} {X} put on the tractor now they call them {D: chill} plows. {D: Or little old plows they} {X} {D: right now}. {D: This about} {D: like that.} {D: And it had tilling then and this keep it pulverized}. Interviewer: Oh yeah. 505: Mm-hmm. Be about {X} {C: rooster crowing} behind the tractor or {D: a rig and} {D: they goes down in the ground sometime} {D: and they'd be.} Interviewer: Hmm. 505: Just like if you got a {X} grass in your fields {D: see they'd} call it {D: chilled and plowing that ground.} That big {X} {D: see me have to come up that.} {X} Interviewer: Mm. {X} {C: rooster crowing} one more time about {C: rooster crowing} wagons. Wagon wheels the- the thing that the wagon wheels turn on, that's your? Aux: Axle. Interviewer: {D: That's our axle.} What about, sometimes you see carpenters use these things they're wooden frames kinda shaped like a letter A or something like that. And you can uh, you might lay a board across it and saw it or something like that? Aux: On your {D: square?} Interviewer: Is that what it is? Aux: {D: But ya} {D: you mean measure things a} #1 {D: square?} # Interviewer: #2 No this is a- this is a frame # kind of shaped like the letter A you know? Aux: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 You # {X} {C: rooster crowing} table with them. Put one here and one here and lay boards across? Aux: Oh. Interviewer: #1 something like that. # Aux: #2 We- we- we # call them {D: horses.} Interviewer: Horses? Aux: Yeah. #1 {X} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: Yeah yeah uh, #1 in other words that's the- # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 the carpenter's uh. # 505: #2 {X} # {X} Aux: Carpenter's uh uh {D: outfit.} 505: {D: Mm-hmm.} Aux: You uh, you got one there and one here and then you lay your planks on that and they {D: sawed} {X} on that. 505: #1 You shoulda. # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah. # 505: {X} Aux: And then uh {D: in other words} you stand on them #1 {D: made it up around}. # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: Well have you ever seen any frames that were kind of shaped like this? Like an X you know? And you could take a log and put it right there in the middle of it, #1 and then saw off the end of it? # 505: #2 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: Now what would that be? 505: #1 That # Aux: #2 Uh # {X} your rafters uh either some kind. 505: Call it a wood {D: raft}. Aux: Yep. Interviewer: Wood {D: raft}? 505: {D: Uh-huh. Wish I had me that wood pile that they had to saw wood.} {X} Aux: But uh, last time uh in fixing your {D: scaffold} like you do. A carpenter, {D: usually} {X} two by four {D: up there and made it your} {D: a runout} from the wall {D: like um right here.} {D: Says here a two by four got a nail in it and one at the other corner.} Then you would take a one by three and put it in that {D: cross form.} That's {D: tying} that two by four {X} from the top of here and go to the bottom there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And cut from the top here to the bottom over here. That's cross tying your frame that you gonna be up- {D: a scaffold we call it}. Interviewer: Oh yes. Aux: You be up on {D: no} carpenter around here. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Let me ask you this it doesn't have much to do the farm or not but {D: when you get up in the morning sometimes you go in} {C: rooster crowing} the bathroom and you {C: rooster crowing} you straighten your hair with a comb and a? Aux: #1 Brush. # Interviewer: #2 What else? # And a brush and, you say when you do that you have to do what to your hair? You just? Aux: {X} Interviewer: Just say the same thing? You just brush Aux: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 your hair? # Or something like that? 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 okay. # What about uh, sometimes when you went to a- a barber shop or you might have had one of these yourself, the thing that you sharpen your straight razor Aux: #1 A # Interviewer: #2 you know? # Aux: razor strap. Interviewer: Is that what you call it too? 505: {D: Mm-hmm ya}. Interviewer: Razor strap? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What about uh, if you had a shotgun, you'd use a- a shell for a shotgun, but what would you put in a- a pistol or a rifle, Aux: #1 Cartridge. # Interviewer: #2 or something like that? # That'd be a c- cartridge? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Instead of a shell. Okay. I don't know if- if uh y'all ever played on anything like this or not but sometimes you see children uh playing on these things one uh there's long board you know, #1 anchored in the middle # 505: #2 See-saw. # Aux: #1 See-saw. # Interviewer: #2 and they go up and down # Aux: #1 See-saw. # Interviewer: #2 in the air in it? # Aux: {X} {NW} Interviewer: What do you say you're doing when you're playing #1 on one of these? # 505: #2 See-sawing. # Interviewer: #1 You're see-sawing? # Aux: #2 See-sawing. # {X} {D: Do you- do} get a long plank and {C: rooster crowing} get up on the fence and one or two on that end one or two on this end. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: O-One end go up the other down just back and forth Interviewer: #1 Mm. Yeah. # Aux: #2 see-sawing. # Interviewer: Well what about these things that, this was a board you know it was anchored in the middle, but, it went around you know like that? You could get on both ends and spin #1 around? # 505: #2 {D: Windmill}? # Interviewer: Is that what it is? 505: #1 Mm-hmm. Windmill go like that. # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Uh-huh. 505: Windmill. Even if you didn't {D: fix it with children} it'd go round and round {X} then it would go around like that. Interviewer: Well have you ever heard of something uh like a long board kinda limber that would be anchored at both ends and you could jump up and down on the middle of it or something like that? #1 You remember? # 505: #2 Spring boards. # Interviewer: #1 That a spring board? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Well what about uh, you you see that a lot of these things you know they're they're uh they hang from limbs in the trees by ropes and {C: rooster crowing} have a #1 plank of- # Aux: #2 Swing. # Interviewer: That's just a old fashioned swing? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: You make those out of tires and 505: Mm-hmm. Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: planks of Aux: #1 Chain. # Interviewer: #2 whatever? # Aux: {X} Made 'em out of chains and at the bottom where you sit on the swing where we would cut a fork in a {X} {D: strap it to} that {D: chain} and you sit on there and you {D: swing until all} #1 {D: you go up as high as the top of the.} # Interviewer: #2 Oh really? # Aux: {X} #1 {X} # 505: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Yeah. What about uh, if you had to go get uh some coal, from somewhere, what would you call the container that you go get it in? Aux: Wagon or truck Interviewer: #1 Well # Aux: #2 or- # Interviewer: just you know something that you could carry. So- Aux: {D: Well uh} we always used to we just put it loose in a wagon {C: rooster crowing} {D: course now} they have sacks. You just #1 sack it up. # 505: #2 {X} # Sacks Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 {D: And.} # Interviewer: Well what about if you wanted to keep some of it in the house you know? Uh what would you keep it in there? Aux: #1 Your scuttle # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: we call it. Coal scuttle. Interviewer: That'd be the scuttle. Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 What do those things look like? # Aux: Well it's a- a metal container kinda {X} and, it'd come together in the front there as a uh {D: mouth} like a pitcher you know. Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah. # Aux: #2 {X} # Putting it in {D: the stove while it won't just} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: spill all over the floor. {D: How you} just like you had your coal bin out there and you're burning coal you take your {D: scuttle and} {X} {D: you scuttle coal and} {D: bring it} to put it in your heater. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what do you call this thing that uh a lot of people use around the yard? It has to carry things in it has two long handles and a wheel one wheel in the front you know? You could put a bag of cement or something like that in it. Aux: Wheelbarrow? Interviewer: Wheelbarrow? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of people call that anything besides wheelbarrow? {C: roosters crowing} Aux: Mm I- I- I don't {C: roosters crowing} remember right #1 now. # Interviewer: #2 {D: Yeah?} # Aux: But uh we have always w- I got one down {D: well it's} down there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {X} They {X} {D: around.} {X} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: {X} Interviewer: I don't guess you've ever heard anybody call that {D: a Georgia buggy} have you? Aux: Naw I've heard of that {D: Georgia buggy} but most of those uh the name of those {D: Georgia buggy} {D: those just the} same thing. They use them in uh you know just some contract building {D: and uh} hauling bricks uh smaller stuff in. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Yeah. And back {X} working on different jobs uh {D: look like} around the city, Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: building a sidewalk, and concrete in your {D: Georgia buggy}. Interviewer: {D: Push it in a Georgia} #1 buggy? # Aux: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: What about if you wanted to put uh uh an edge on your axe or your knife or something like that, what would you use to? Aux: Well uh {X} I have used what we call a {D: sand rock.} You turn it and then you take a {D: file} and Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: and file it with that} {X} to sharpen {X} and put them on {X} you know Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah. # Aux: #2 and # {D: file 'em down and} then take that {D: file and} {D: dress it off with a} {D: smooth edge.} Interviewer: Is that file the same thing as a wet rock or {C: rooster crowing} #1 is that something like that? # Aux: #2 {D: No you-} # that file just got those things that you- ever seen a {X} which people used to s- uh {D: sharp} {X} with #1 you know? # Interviewer: #2 I think # I know what you're talking Aux: #1 {D: But uh} # Interviewer: #2 about. # Aux: it's a {D: long day with} {X} your file is {D: raised in the same end} {X} It's square {D: each end} the file got a point on one end {D: the one you put your.} {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Well th- the file is made in some uh the same {D: anyways} it's just a finer {C: rooster crowing} #1 grain then. # 505: #2 This is one of them. # Interviewer: Oh yeah. Yeah. #1 I have # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: yeah I've seen those before. Aux: Well now that {X} it's got coarser {D: grooves} then that file has. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: talking about} {D: what that} {X} {D: mule we} {D: smoothing} {D: up his hoof to put shoes on.} Interviewer: What about if your if your car was just squeaking a lot, you might take it into the service station and {D: tell them to} put it up on a rack and do what to it? Aux: Uh have it {D: grease.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And if you got then if you were doing that yourself and you got that stuff all over your hands you'd say your hands had gotten? 505: Greasy. Aux: Grease. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {NS} {C: rooster crowing} Well what about {C: rooster crowing} uh {C: rooster crowing} if you wanted the mechanic to look up under the hood of your car and maybe check your? Aux: {X} When you check under the hood see what's uh {D: well what's, needed under there.} {X} 505: {X} #1 {D: All right}. # Aux: #2 {D: All right.} # Different 505: Mm-hmm. Aux: things you know {D: could happen.} {C: rooster crowing} {D: So} {D: if I had} {X} {D: why they have been checked under there.} Some {D: kind of a} spark plug wire, maybe all your motor and, Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Hardly anything back there there's so many little. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: {NW} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Aux: {D: could do} {D: yourself.} Interviewer: Or you might be a quart low or? Aux: That's {D: right alright} like that. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of making a- a temporary lamp or a makeshift lamp out of a bottle and a Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: rag and some kerosene? Aux: #1 Yeah I # Interviewer: #2 {D: Something like} # Aux: #1 {D: did that} # Interviewer: #2 that? # Aux: #1 many times. # Interviewer: #2 # What di- did you call those #1 anything? # Aux: #2 {NW} # Uh- uh call- we call them bottle lights. 505: #1 Some of them call them # Aux: #2 You'd get # 505: {D: torches.} Aux: Yeah. You'd get {X} some {D: coal} oil and put it in a bottle and get uh some of that {D: grass sack} we was talking about oh ya. Gonna twist it and {D: till you get it that} and put your oil in there and then twist that rag down in there and turn it up until that oil seep back through it and, strike your match and then you got your light {D: right on.} Interviewer: #1 Is that right? # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Have you ever heard people call those flambeaus? Aux: Now I don't remember. 505: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Flambeaus. 505: No {X} Interviewer: Never heard of that? 505: No. Interviewer: Okay. What about, talking about cars and things, the the inside of a car tire, you know the part that inflates? That's called the inner? Aux: Inner tube. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: That's the inner tube? {C: rooster crowing} Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Okay. What about if you had just built yourself a a rowboat, and you wanted to try it out? You might take it down to the water and and put it in. #1 You'd say you # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: going down there to do what? To? Aux: Uh go boat riding. Interviewer: Boat riding? Aux: Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: But what is it you call it when you're putting the boat in the water? You say you have to? {C: rooster crowing} Aux: Well uh. Interviewer: Right you know right when you put the boat in the water? Aux: Yeah you- {D: you've got} a different {D: form.} Some people you got {D: you see a} boat trailer. {NS} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: down in} you uh {D: let it} roll off that trailer right in the water. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: Uh you} {D: you go out} there to, row your boat. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {X} Interviewer: Would you call that uh launch the boat or something like that? Aux: Well I don't know what {X} {C: rooster crowing} proper name but Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: I} {D: going to.} {X} Interviewer: Right. Right. Okay. What about uh, do you have a boat? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What kind is it? Aux: Oh a metal boat. Interviewer: Metal #1 boat? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Is it one that you have to #1 use the- # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} {C: rooster crowing} paddle boat because {X} at least that's what I use it for {X} {D: for his uh} {D: he'll} have- had a motor on it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Well what- what shape is the bottom? Is it curved or flat or #1 what? # Aux: #2 {D: Yeah flat.} # Interviewer: Flat? {C: rooster crowing} And what about the ends of it? Are th- are the ends flat or come out to a point or what? Aux: Uh yeah they uh {X} square at each end cause {X} square but it's narrow in the front end and wide at the back end. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Mm-hmm. I get the {X} with the ridges in the bottom you know for just like it would {D: come with} {X} and water won't be all over the boat if you go down those streams to Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {X} {D: there's nothing to get} {C: rooster crowing} over the. {X} Interviewer: Yeah. Well what about if a woman wanted to buy a new dress and she wanted to make sure uh that she got the right color sometime she'd take a little square cloth along with her to match it. Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What would that thing be called? Aux: {D: Well} that would be uh a sample of the 505: Sample of what you're Aux: #1 pattern that she # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: already have. 505: {X}. Aux: If she want a piece to match that. Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {X} 505: #1 And # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: sometime you can go in {D: places like that} and tell them what color you want {D: they have a chart you know.} Interviewer: Oh yeah. 505: And you can uh #1 pick your color # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: from that chart but if you have a piece and you already want a piece {D: to go buy} you have {D: to keep it as} the sample. Interviewer: Oh yeah. {D: Right}. Well what about if you saw a dress that you really liked and you thought was real nice you might say my goodness that sure is a? 505: Pretty #1 dress. # Interviewer: #2 Pretty # dress? 505: #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 And if # you liked one even better you might say well I think this one is even... 505: {D: Prettier than the other one.} Interviewer: #1 {D: Prettier than the other?} # Aux: #2 {D: Prettier than the other?} # Interviewer: Yeah. What do you call uh the thing that you wear around your waist when you're in the kitchen? You know you don't wanna dirty your dress #1 or {C: all three talking} # 505: #2 Apron. # Interviewer: clothes. Aux: {X} Interviewer: And what about uh oh this thing that I'm writing with right here this is a ball point? Aux: #1 Pen. # 505: #2 Pen. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. And the thing that you that you might use to keep a baby's diapers together that's the 505: #1 Safety # Interviewer: #2 safe- # 505: #1 pin. # Aux: #2 Safety # #1 pin. # Interviewer: #2 Safety # pin. okay. And what about uh you say a dime is worth how many cents? 505: Ten cents. Interviewer: A dime is worth ten cents and and these uh cups that you might have out by the well you know {D: to} to drink out of? What would those things be made out of? What kind of a metal do you usually? 505: Well some is {D: made out of aluminum.} Aux: {X} {D: Plastic they} {D: are} {D: plastic} cups down uh {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: drink. Interviewer: Some people have you know metal roofs on their house, #1 and that especially # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: usually made out of what kind of metal? Aux: Uh {D: aluminum}. Interviewer: #1 Mostly aluminum? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # And uh they're galvanized. Interviewer: Mm. Hmm. Is it- do you ever- do you ever see any genuine uh tin roofs or something like that {D: to} Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: instead of aluminum #1 anymore? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #2 Yeah. # 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What would uh what would you say the a man's three piece suit uh consists of? {D: You'd have uh?} {C: rooster crowing} 505: Pants, vest, and coat. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: The pants, the vest, and the coat? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Have you ever heard of men call their pants anything else besides Aux: #1 Trousers. # Interviewer: #2 just pants? # Trousers? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what about these uh they're not trousers but they're {C: rooster crowing} {D: they cover} {C: rooster crowing} your whole body you know? {C: rooster crowing} #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 strap? # Aux: #2 {X} # {D: You know} some of them call 505: #1 them overalls. # Aux: #2 Some of them coveralls # 505: and some call them {X} Interviewer: Is that right?