505: {D: Um I didn't know that} {D: know that they would be at} {D: our house.} Aux: Mm-hmm. 505: {D: And I told George that} I'd fix the {X} {NS} {D: take the} {NS} {D: I baked a cake} {C: rooster crowing} {D: yesterday.} {X} {D: I'd take it in the freezer.} {NS} {D: That would be uh.} {NS} Interviewer: Let me ask you uh let's say if you you haven't uh {C: rooster crowing} if you haven't worn a coat in about a year {C: rooster crowing} and you tried it on, you might say well that coat won't fit this year but last year it? Aux: {D: Yeah I've} {D: styled it up but the} coat is #1 {D: drawed up.} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 505: {X} Interviewer: Didn't fit last year but? 505: And that's if it if it- if it- it's too tight this year I've picked up weight. Interviewer: Yeah. 505: And if it {C: rooster crowing} {D: get on} {C: rooster crowing} looser then I've lost weight. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: {X} {C: rooster crowing} 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What about uh if there was something over on the other side of the room and you wanted me to get it for you? You'd ask me to do what? You'd say why don't you go? 505: Why don't you go there and bring me that {D: piece} {D: of that?} Interviewer: Okay. What about {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} some little boys you know they like to collect things. They pick up about everything they see and stuff it in their pockets. 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And before long they have so many things in their pockets that the pockets do what? {C: rooster crowing} {NS} 505: {X} down- Interviewer: Yeah? 505: Yeah. They {D: bridge} out just like sack of {D: cotton.} {NW} Interviewer: {NW} Well what about if you put uh {D: a shirt} in water that's too hot or, {C: rooster crowing} something like that? {C: rooster crowing} 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 it may # do what? Aux: {D: Draw up.} Interviewer: {D: Draw up?} {D: And} shrink or something #1 like that # 505: #2 {D: Yeah some of them} # some of the folks say shrink and some say draw up. Interviewer: #1 Isn't that right? # 505: #2 {D: It's}- # Yeah. {NS} Interviewer: Well what about if uh {C: rooster crowing} if a young girl was getting ready to go out somewhere with a- with a y- with a young man? She might spend a lot of time in front of a mirror in her bedroom you'd say she's doing what? Aux: Primping. Interviewer: Primping. 505: {X} {C: rooster crowing} {NS} {NW} {C: rooster crowing} She's {D: at} {D: she's at uh} making up her face. Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah? # Aux: #2 {NW} # 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what if a boy is doing the same thing you know, he's getting ready to go out and 505: #1 Oh are you # Interviewer: #2 he's # 505: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 spending a lot of time. # 505: Yeah he's primping too. Interviewer: He's primping 505: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 too? # 505: {NW} Interviewer: {D: What do we} {C: rooster crowing} call the {C: rooster crowing} the thing that women {C: rooster crowing} take with them you know, to carry all their things in? 505: Handbag. Interviewer: Handbag #1 or? # Aux: #2 Some # {D: call it a} shopping bag. Interviewer: Shopping bag? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Purse or? 505: a purse. Interviewer: Something like that? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what {C: rooster crowing} what about the small one {C: rooster crowing} that you might use just for carrying change in you know? 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Might have a little #1 clasp or something like that? # Aux: #2 {X} # {D: A lady purse.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Or cha- do you ever call it change purse #1 or # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #1 coin purse? # 505: #2 Change and # coin purse. {X} #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: I wonder, {C: rooster crowing} about these things that um {C: rooster crowing} ladies like to wear around their wrists you know, just look pretty? 505: Bracelet. Interviewer: #1 Bracelet? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And this thing that they wear around their Aux: #1 Beads. # Interviewer: #2 neck? # #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {D: Or a} # 505: #1 necklace. # Aux: #2 Necklace. # Interviewer: Her necklace? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And these things that {C: rooster crowing} that men might use to hold up their pants? {C: rooster crowing} They go #1 across your shoulders? # Aux: #2 Suspenders # 505: Suspenders. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 505: Some call them galluses. Interviewer: Galluses? 505: {NW} Interviewer: Does it make any difference what you call them? Whether they're just plain suspenders or fancy suspenders or? Aux: Well {D: I} yeah you would uh {X} for just uh {X} {D: have work suspenders.} Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: And then if you want for. {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: They- the- they have different {D: grades} of them for Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: different days. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Want to go, with a nice suit of clothes on a {D: pair of uh heavy work} suspenders #1 on. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: Yeah. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Well what do you call this thing that uh {C: rooster crowing} if it's raining you'd take with you outside and hold #1 over your head # Aux: #2 Umbrella. # 505: Umbrella. Interviewer: Have you ever heard #1 people- # Aux: #2 Parasol. # Interviewer: Parasol, that's called? Same thing. Well if you were making up your bed, what would be the last thing that you would put on your bed? {C: rooster crowing} Aux: Sheet. 505: Uh no, Aux: #1 Bed spread. # 505: #2 bed spread. # Interviewer: Bed spread Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: would be the last thing? And what about in the winter time when you have these heavy things you know if? 505: {D: Blanket} and quilts? Interviewer: {D: Be a blanket} and quilt? 505: Mm-hmm. Aux: Some of them call them comforter. Interviewer: #1 Comforter? # 505: #2 Some don't have quilts they call 'em comforter but # {D: the- they- they're} mostly {D: like that.} {D: I makes} my own, they're quilts. Interviewer: Oh yeah. 505: And like if you buy them at the store they already. {X} {C: noise} Interviewer: And you when you go to bed you rest your head back on your? 505: #1 Pillow. # Aux: #2 Pillow. # Interviewer: Have you ever seen these things that weren't- they're bigger than pillows. Uh some people put them on their bed I guess just for looks? 505: Yeah shams. Interviewer: Shams? 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Is that what it is? # 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 Have you ever? # 505: #2 (X) # My grandmother used to {D: say that.} {X} put a {X} You put a {X} you know used to be uh {D: the whole bed.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm.{C: rooster crowing} 505: {D: Old type}. Used to be {D: with} {X} at the head and them them pillows be standing up by the {X} up there. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah. # Oh yeah. 505: Pillow sham. Interviewer: Is that the same thing as what peop- some people call a bolster, #1 or something like that? # 505: #2 No. # #1 Uh they had. # Aux: #2 A bolster is a # 505: long thing that go across your bed. I got one {D: on my own} bed now {X}. Interviewer: Oh yeah. 505: {D: It's the solid} {D: cross it} just like your pillows. Now I got pillows on that bed but it's most of them. {X} Interviewer: #1 Oh yeah? # 505: #2 {D: He's} # just a long thing with feathers in it {D: uh} uh {X} whatever you have in there. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 505: And then you make a long {X} to go {X} for the cover just like you would a pillow case. Interviewer: Oh yeah. 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Well if it was a- if it was a a long bolster you might say it doesn't just go partway across the bed it went? 505: Mines go all the way the across #1 the # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: {D: All these new beds} now they {D: got them to go} just about a a third across the bed and then it just like {D: they come by along in here and then they} {NS} spread a corner #1 {D: when take that} # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah. # 505: {D: that's where they make them knot.} Interviewer: Well what i- what if you had some company in the house that you might have to put down a temporary sleeping place you know on the #1 floor? # 505: #2 mattress # on the floor? Interviewer: A mattress? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Now is that the same thing as a palate or something #1 like that? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # 505: Yes it is {X} you can put your quilt down on the floor and then put your {D: stuff} on there that make it kind of soft if you don't have a mattress {X} Aux: #1 Taking uh # 505: #2 floor. # Aux: mattress and put it on the floor and you know and uh you say we you'd call it palate. #1 You making a palate on the floor. # 505: #2 Mm. # Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: Mm-hmm. #1 I have just taking the quilt # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: {D: once it's hot} when I was a kid and fold it together and got on the floor and make that's what you call a palate {D: come up with stuff} keeping cool {D: the bed} was hot. Interviewer: Oh yeah. 505: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Yeah. Getting back to the farm for a minute, the different types of land on a farm you know? If you had a- if you uh expect a big crop from your land you'd say that your l- you expect a big crop because the land is very? Aux: cultivated. Interviewer: {D: Cultivated?} If it's real good land if it if it produces big crops you say it's what kind of land? Aux: Rich #1 soil. # Interviewer: #2 Rich land? # What do you is there anything in particular that you'd call rich soil? Aux: Yeah. Uh it's uh this here {D: dark} land and then the uh the uh {D: gray} type of land. {D: What now all} uh hill land with a lot of soil Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {X} but we have a different section you'll find some of this {D: gray} soil is too {D: richer soil it's kind of} {D: poor} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: soil. Interviewer: Mm. {C: rooster crowing} Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} {X} some is real {D: red land, you'd have made good crop}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. It's not all {D: red land and} {X} you know {D: real poor} soil. Mm-hmm. Aux: But that {X} {D: you gonna grow look like much of anything on this} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} Mm-hmm. Well what about uh real good land sometimes it's uh it's overflowed you know by water #1 in the spring and then # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: later on you can use it to plant things on? You'd call that what kind of land? Aux: That's uh {D: made} soil. {C: rooster crowing} {NS} The soil off the hill probably done {C: rooster crowing} washed down and and that made land and that's real rich soil #1 cause the soil from # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: {X} uh land {D: done} you know filled in down there. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: It's a really rich type of soil. Interviewer: Is that the same thing as bottom land? Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: {X}. Aux: {D: Like} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} water will overflow {D: one place} and down in the low place. Well if that water come off the hill down to the bottom it's bringing a portion of your soil {C: rooster crowing} {D: off the hill down there.} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And that will {X} {D: build that} lower place build it up. And that's why your rich soil {D: of yours} down there in that little {X}. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what do you call a piece of land that's really not good for much anything because you got {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} all the time? Aux: Uh that's the uh {X} like uh regular low land {D: is} {D: is where} your water settled in {D: it's} {D: sort of} water {D: sogged, know?} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: A lot of time I know a place {D: out here} going on the {X} it's uh {X} {C: rooster crowing} long time it's just look like just {X} {D: but the staves are so wet you wouldn't be able to} go on down to plow it up. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} 505: #1 {D: And yeah.} # Aux: #2 {D: But} # It's uh s- some type of land in different {D: sections.} Just the {NS} what we call a spring uh land. {D: Just a spring} {C: rooster crowing} {D: somewhere in the area} {C: rooster crowing} and that water {X} through it and just keep it soft {D: for all time while} you gonna be. {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Yeah. {C: rooster crowing} Aux: Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} 505: And uh we had a place in {X} we lived up there when I first. {X} You couldn't grow nothing in that place {D: as big it is as my yard} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} it wouldn't grow. Interviewer: Hmm. 505: {D: And we had} if you planted on it it would die. And so uh finally a man come through there. I don't know what {D: nationality what he was}{C: rooster crowing} but he told {C: rooster crowing} mine father when I was {X} do you {X} why you can't raise nothing there? He said well they're telling me it's a deadly {D: a deadly} {D: place where the} {D: deer} used to p- uh {X} put soil down for {D: deers.} He said yes {D: and then sold it.} {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: And then finally he just {D: kept turning that plow now} I- I think you can {D: raise stuff} #1 {D: on there that share now.} # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} 505: #1 {D: You used to couldn't raise nothing and now everything} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # 505: #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # 505: it would die. And so I guess by cultivating that, and the soil washing back there you know {D: what his deal is?} #1 Hmm. # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: {X} {D: That boy hey it was in the woods and} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} I got something {D: to show you then in the fields} said what? {D: He said come on. Say someday} {D: in there} there no grass. Nothing growing. I said what wrong with it? The lightning done struck or something? He said naw. {X} But you should be out planting this {C: rooster crowing} {D: crops} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} #1 {D: Come up there but it'd die}. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Mm-hmm. 505: And finally he got so {D: distressed} and then he couldn't tell where that place at. Interviewer: Hmm. Aux: {D: I see him} #1 cultivating and # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: soil different type of soil. {X} {C: rooster crowing} 505: And so they call that a #1 {D: deer deer lick} # Aux: #2 Yeah. # 505: place where they used to put salt out for #1 deer. # Aux: #2 S- # #1 -salt would kill the # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Aux: land why it wouldn't produce anything. Interviewer: Hmm. 505: And we was there one day and then the man he came by, we was chopping he said uh how many years have you been here? So my dad {X} {C: rooster crowing} He said it's a place up here he turn around and look he said {D: ain't welcome here.} I {D: believe he'd know it.} He said uh {C: rooster crowing} there's a good {C: rooster crowing} {D: bit of money} there. So uh my daddy said to him says uh has you ever been through here before? He said I guess I have. He said uh some of them done try to get it but they ain't ever got it. So- but here's the good {D: news} {D: there's a good bit of money} #1 {D: there said that.} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 505: {D: We ever get uh} if we ever be able to get it, {D: then we don't have to} {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} long time. {C: rooster crowing} And so {X} and so finally {X} told him that his grandpa passed or something, {D: he's up there but} {X} on some place you know over that high hill #1 up there. # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # 505: {D: Up there where it.} {C: rooster crowing} Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} That was the Indian territory and they drove the Indian out and they that's where they {D: hid their money} {X} {D: village and} put it in treasures like that. And they drove out and they didn't get chance to get the money so {C: rooster crowing} {D: you tell me} {C: rooster crowing} anywhere that you see uh a tree that got a {D: number} on it then that's a pointing them to the treasure. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: And another Indian notice it but now he be about the only one {D: with a know where- where to go get it.} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Aux: I have space up here in the {D: barn.} It's in a wood {X} uh I cut timber {X} up there in, twenty-five in one of 'em. And we were {D: rafting} logs. Putting them in the river and pin them together and floating them down the river to the saw mill down {X}. And that night we had our raft fastened up to the bank and that night uh the man I was working with Mr. {B} he heard a noise and he thought his log was- had done broken loose. He went out there and he heard such a noise that the log {D: won't broken loose} and he said that it was a {D: bull coming} from across that river. Say it look like {D: fire was} {X} out his nose, ten foot on each Interviewer: #1 Is that # Aux: #2 side. # Interviewer: right? 505: {D: What?} Aux: Yeah. And he thought his raft had done broke loose while {X} just like he left it. Interviewer: Huh. Aux: Then he said he was some money was buried up there and the Indian didn't want {X} {D: bother it.} Said and they saw that bull coming at and says look like {D: fire was} {D: standing out his nose} on each side. Interviewer: I think I would've gotten out of there too. Aux: Yeah. {NW} 505: {D: Well what did he do?} Aux: {D: That Indian} {X} want back in to the {X} 505: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # 505: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {NW} # 505: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # 505: {NS} Aux: I know why {D: it would} {X} {D: from where} uh this {D: happened at} and it's uh what you call a {D: beech tree.} It's uh kind of a {D: smooth bark} tree and and that they cut that in that tree and {D: I didn't} know what year but you can see the numbers on there now, w- on that tree {D: right.} It was cut in there. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: And it done grow but you still discover them numbers. Interviewer: That's uh something like that in the town that I'm from a street is named {D: North Three Notch} street because the Indians made uh markings on #1 trees you know with three notches # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 something like that. # I guess for #1 you know purposes of showing direction # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: or something like that. Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: Yeah I was gonna ask you talking about land, do you have any swamps around here? Or anything like that? Aux: Mm-hmm. 505: {D: We have those.} Aux: Yeah yeah lots of lowland down here {X} {D: near the river that} is called {D: swamper} land. {X} Interviewer: Yeah. Yeah. Well tell me what would you call a a piece of land that's been kind of, cut through by some flowing water? Might be about say about ten feet across ten feet deep something like that, you know that was just, cut out by Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: flowing water? You- you'd call an area like that a what? Aux: A canal {D: uh yeah uh.} 505: Canal. Aux: {D: A wash} {D: through the farm.} {X} Interviewer: Would that be the same thing say if a- a heavy rain washed out a Aux: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 place like that? # Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: Something like that? Aux: {D: Oh uh} just like you say a w- water's coming off a hill down to the bottom and the water's severe enough to you know cut a a {X} down across the {X} {C: rooster crowing} where it continue to be a canal. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: Wash.} Interviewer: Is that the same thing as a gully or Aux: #1 Yeah that's the same thing. # Interviewer: #2 something like that? # Aux: {D: Other word} the uh canal you uh {D: you'd uh} cut a canal, with- that would be just a gully, {D: wash uh wash} coming from the upper land to the lower land. Interviewer: You cut a canal to drain a #1 piece of land or something # Aux: #2 Ya that's right # Interviewer: like that? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: And these here {D: washes} where the water just cut its own way through there. Interviewer: {X} You were talking about hills a minute ago. Do you ever call hills anything else? You might say you had a little oh I don't know, you ever heard them called uh uh well s- same thing as that uh that thing that you had to turn you know to open your door? That's your what? 505: #1 Door knob. # Aux: #2 Door knob. # Interviewer: Have you ever heard hills called knobs? Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: #1 Is that right? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # That's right. Interviewer: Well what about when you get {D: you see in} some places in Tennessee these things are are you know just big things. Much bigger than hills. You don't have just any- Aux: #1 Mountains. # 505: #2 Mountains. # Interviewer: {D: You have} mountains? Talking about mountains what about uh the- the side of a mountain, you know the rocky side that drops off real sharp? Aux: #1 Uh-huh. # Interviewer: #2 You'd # call that the Aux: #1 A cliff. {C: noise} # Interviewer: #2 what? {C: noise} # 505: {D: Cliff.} {C: noise} {D: Cliff.} {C: noise} Interviewer: Or maybe up in the mountains where uh you have uh where the road might go across in a low place something like that? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What would you call that place in the mountains? Aux: Well that uh {D: it w- uh} some people call it the uh a air pocket. You know {D: what} they call it {D: by} two mountains in between those mountains. {D: Call her} air pockets and Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: I {D: wish} my brother I never did see because I didn't go to see. He said they would uh be flying along in airplanes then they plane would be down below the top of that mountain Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: and when they get between those mountains that they hit what you call uh dead air pocket. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: {D: Until their} plane {D: would drop} #1 or certain # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: {X} down. Interviewer: I think that'd probably bother me a little bit. #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # Yeah {X} 505: When the boys stay here with me you said they was uh {D: fifteen} {hundred feet} and uh {D: he had to uh} {X} and then airplane said {X} {D: putting on bricks?} Say he thought that {D: bridge was done}. {D: And he had them filled five hundred feet}. Interviewer: Mm. Mm. Well let me ask you thi- this, do you know uh what you would call a place where boats would unload their freight? They'd unload it onto a? Aux: #1 A barge or something. # 505: #2 Barge? # Interviewer: Barge or- Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: well what about you know, this would be a, wouldn't be a, not necessarily a barge but, uh say at a sea port, you know the boats come up #1 and then they anchor and # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #1 the- the- the platform or whatever it is that's the? # Aux: #2 {X} # The boat {D: uh} {X} some people call it the- the st- stage {D: where} the boats land up. {X} 505: #1 Some call it loading dock. # Aux: #2 {D: Sitting dock.} # #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Dock? # Aux: The loading dock. Dock. {D: They up there}. Say this is the {X} building here and the water's not deep enough for the boat to come all the way {X} {C: rooster crowing} out of that dock {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: Why} {NW} the boat could come up {D: to it to unload}. Interviewer: Oh yeah. {D: oh yeah}. And talking about the mountains sometimes you see a place where water falls {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} long distance, {rooster crowing} do you know? What do you- what would you call something like that? That would be a? Aux: {X} Interviewer: Where the water falls over you know? {C: rooster crowing} 505: {D: I don't know no neither.} {C: rooster crowing} I- I heard Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 {D: talking about how} # Aux: they call it #1 {X}. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # #1 {D: I heard talking about it but I haven't seen it} # Aux: #2 {D: Water coming over} # 505: but {D: in that that} in the books uh. #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Oh yeah. 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: {D: Well what do you think} {C: rooster crowing} the roads around {C: rooster crowing} here in the county what are the what are most of 'em made out of, you know the material on the surface you got? 505: #1 {D: Gravel} # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: #1 and # Aux: #2 {X} # Asphalt. 505: and asphalt. {NS} {C: rooster crowing} Aux: Wish that rooster would go somewhere. #1 {X} # 505: #2 {X} # Yo- You know where he's {D: going}? He fights that other rooster {D: long time now} {D: beats his head.} Interviewer: Oh yeah? Aux: {X}{NS} {X} Interviewer: Well tell me what you would call a {C: rooster crowing} {NS} talking about roads, what would you call a a road that would go off the main road somewhere? Aux: Well tha- tha- that was uh {X} this here's a by road leading in to the main highway. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: A cross road or something like that {X} {D: maybe it's} go on across the highway, but your main road would be you know your highway and #1 {D: you'd just be just on right top} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: a gravel road or Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: maybe a dirt road leads in to it Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: {D: the road}. Interviewer: Well what about a road that goes off the main road up to a man's house? That's the what? Aux: Uh that's the by road. {C: noise} Interviewer: By road? {C: noise} {NS} 505: {D: He fights that other rooster so bad} {D: How come I have to get rid of him?} Interviewer: Well what about if somebody- if comp- if company came by and you invited them into the room you might tell them well why don't- why don't you sit down and make yourself? Aux: {D: Comfort or} uh at home. Interviewer: Or at home? Okay. Do either one of- of you drink coffee? Aux: {D: Well I like} #1 do occasionally, not too often. # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: How- how do you take your coffee? Aux: Said how do I? Interviewer: How do you- what do you like in it, you know? Aux: White cream, su-su-sugar {D: when}- when I take a {X} {D: would call my wife}, {D: so I could get} {D: mine every morning.} {D: I just} #1 drink my milk. # 505: #2 {D: You used.} # Aux: {X} I'm a milk man. {NW} Interviewer: Do you ever- do you ever have your coffee with milk? Aux: I have- uh uh-huh. Yeah. Interviewer: Is that right? Aux: Yes. Cream {X} uh milk from our cows. Interviewer: Have you ever heard people order their coffee without anything 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 in it you know? # What do they- how do- what- how do they say they want it? 505: {D: Straight}. Aux: #1 Black coffee # Interviewer: #2 {D: Straight}? # Aux: #1 or straight coffee. # 505: #2 {NW} # My n- #1 my niece come here and just # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: #1 {D: wanders in the house and} # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: drinking cup after cup not a bit of sugar in it. Interviewer: Is that right? 505: Every morning. Aux: {X} call it black coffee they don't want cream or sugar in it. #1 Just the straight coffee. # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Have you ever heard people call coffee like that uh ordering it, say I want it barefooted? Aux: #1 No. # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 {NW} # 505: #2 {NW} # {D: That means nothing}. {NW} Interviewer: Nothing in it? 505: {X}. Interviewer: What about let's say if somebody's not going away from you, do you say he's coming straight? 505: To me. Interviewer: Straight to you? Aux: Uh-huh. Interviewer: Or straight towards you? 505: #1 {D: Towards you.} # Aux: #2 {D: Yeah.} # Interviewer: Something like that. Okay. Aux: {D: Straight home} {D: or something like that.} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Well what about if you- if you've met somebody just, you know by accident. You didn't you weren't looking for her you might say I just sort of ran? 505: Ran up on them? Interviewer: Ran up on them, or, #1 ran across it or something like that. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Well what about if uh- if a child is is given the same name that his father has? You say that the child's been named? Aux: Junior. Interviewer: Junior or Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: he's been named in relation to his #1 father they were named # Aux: #2 Yeah. # 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: after his father or something like that? Okay. What about if you wanted one of these dogs out here to attack another dog, what would you say to him? Aux: Catch 'em. Interviewer: Catch 'em? Aux: Or sic 'em. Interviewer: Sic 'em? 505: {NW} Interviewer: What if you wanted him to stop, what would you say to him? 505: Come back here! Interviewer: Come back here? Uh-huh. What do you call these dogs that that aren't pure breeds you know? They just about a little of everything. {D: You got any} anything you call that kind of dog? Aux: I {X} just- just a dog. {D: He's} not a, you know, a full bred dog. Interviewer: {NW} Aux: No certain breed. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Well what about a a little tiny dog that just yaps all the time Aux: #1 {X}. # Interviewer: #2 and makes a racket? # Aux: {NW} Call them a {D: faust.} A house dog. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Uh-huh is that what you call it? {X} 505: {D: Uh uh} {D: she got a little uh} {D: I call it a little Chihuahua} {X} {D: know nothing in the world can beat that thing.} #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {NW} # 505: You know {D: that poor little thing} you know long hair. {D: And you talking about that} {D: she got some of the prettiest puppies she got two}. She said her {D: husband.} {X} {D: And uh} I um sometime I goes over there {D: often and} {D: she just} right behind me {X} I said {X} thing about you. Interviewer: Yeah. 505: And she {D: there's a black} puppy and she have a {D: brown they're pretty} and they ran out with her. Interviewer: Mm. 505: {X} {D: And the little old feist} {D: keep her going but I don't think she can} {X} over that. #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Well did you e- did you ever know of any dogs that were {D: bad to get after you you know}? Aux: Yeah yeah. 505: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 it definitely # 505: #1 {D: German} # Aux: #2 {X}. # 505: German Shepherds is bad. Aux: Uh German Shepherds and a dog called a {D: Poodle} dog. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 mean dog. # 505: #2 those. # Aux: {D: Course how you} #1 {D: get uh it's uh lot's} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: {D: how} people train dogs. You can take a bulldog {D: which he's supposed to be a bad dog}, {D: but then I} you train him right he ain't no more then the other dogs. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {X} some of them attack you and then again they won't. It just depends upon how they are trained. Interviewer: Has one ever gotten a hold of you? Aux: Yeah oh yeah. And he was {X} {D: probably} just a kind of uh a mixed breed of dog. He wanna {X}. I went house right down the road here one day. {D: Went down after a cousin of mine} in a buggy. The dog was on the back {NS} and I went in {D: on} had {X} {D: house.} I went in and {X} and I went on in and they wanna come back out to the buggy. My cousin forgot her purse and left it on the bed. And she said I've done forgot my purse will you go over and get it? I opened the gate and got about half way to the porch and them dogs heard me and they come around the house. Three of them. Interviewer: Uh-oh. {NW} Aux: And I didn't have a thing in my hand to keep them off of me. Then my cousin was in the house she come to the door and. {X} And them dogs were {D: running me in the house} she {X} kicking them. {X} One of them {D: run up there up and grabbed them by my} {X} leg. Just did pinch my skin. And I got a chance to kick him and by that time she hollered at them and they just {D: broke and went on} back around the house. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {D: And that was the only dog} {D: ever did get a chance to bite me}. Interviewer: Oh yeah? You hadn't been bitten badly though? Aux: No it was just nothing but the skin on my leg. Interviewer: What about you did one ever? 505: Uh-huh. Miss {B} dog. {D: He was going from school to teach us.} {X} She had uh Miss {B} had a package {X} she told me and another girl to go down so we know the dog went back {D: to the black door}. #1 It kinda # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 505: {D: shaggy and} so I was scared of the dog. I got {X} {D: and I said now} Miss {B} {D: come on in here}. So we went on in {D: and the girl jump- now if she ain't of run} I don't think the dog would've {X}. She jumped up on that step, he, {D: broke into me.} And man I {D: set down on him} with that stick. I broke it. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 505: #2 {NW} # {D: I sit down} {D: on me}. She got mad with me cause {D: I hit the dog.} Interviewer: Oh. 505: But he would've gotten me if I hadn't {D: hit him}- #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 You have to protect yourself. # 505: #1 Yeah. # Aux: #2 {X} # 505: And he didn't get a chance to bite me cause when I- when I {D: said I don't wanna} I don't want {X}. Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah? # 505: And she said did you hurt him, and I said I don't know Miss {B} {D: I said} but he broke in. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {NW} # 505: {X} Kill him if he bites you. Interviewer: Mm. 505: She got mad but he didn't he said don't let him bite you. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: And when we got ready to go I said I ain't going out there {X} go with me so she went with us to the gate. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: And we got outside the fence, and when we got outside of the fence he was {D: still mad at me.} {X} #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 505: {D: So you can imagine why.} {X} #1 {NW} # Aux: #2 {X} # Uh uh {D: the same individual she} talk about she had that dog {D: is a black} I don't know, Shepherd and {D: cur} or some mix. The black dog had a white white ring #1 around his # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 {D: neck}. # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 And he # 505: #2 {NW} # Aux: uh you could not go in that yard if he was there without somebody #1 {D: guarding you in}. # 505: #2 Uh-uh. # Aux: And the {D: man} of the house stayed there and if he put on a pair of corduroy pants {D: his wife would have to} {D: guide him in} that dog wouldn't let him in there with them #1 corduroy pants on. # 505: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 {NW} # 505: #2 {NW} # Uh-huh that d- that dog was rough and he he's about this tall. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: But um, I- I had that stick. That stick was a good fighting stick. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 505: {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: But I told myself {X} but I had a. {X} Interviewer: Oh yeah? 505: Cause uh {NS} {D: we hardly at a gate} and he's. {NW} She said come over here {D: here boy.} She on the porch {X}. But as they {X} jumping on in front of me I {X} he was- he {X} but when he come out {D: from that house} I didn't do nothing but {D: do this here}. I did that so quickly {X} {D: I shot that dog that dog shot back and I.} {X} Interviewer: {NW} 505: And she didn't look like she'd like it and I didn't care if she didn't I want him to. {X} Interviewer: Yeah. 505: I don't want that dog to bit me. Interviewer: Well tell me, talking about, getting back to farm animals for a minute, in a herd of cattle, what is it you call the male? Aux: #1 The bull. # Interviewer: #2 That would be # the bull? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Oh. And what about a little one? When it's first born it's a? Aux: A little steer. Interviewer: A little steer? Aux: {NW} Interviewer: Uh uh is there any just general term for a for a little one? Besides steer? Is a steer a male? Aux: Yeah uh-huh. {X} you know that's the small bull but he got to grow {D: you can call him} #1 {D: calf until he} # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah. # Aux: grow up to the, you know bull stage {X} Interviewer: And uh what about a little female {D: it's a?} Aux: Little heifer. Interviewer: Little heifer? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: What about if you had a cow named Daisy and she was expecting a calf you'd say that Daisy's gonna do what? Aux: Gonna {X} or have a calf. 505: {D: Have her a calf.} {X} Interviewer: Have you ever heard people say that they got- they have a cow who's gonna {D: freshen} or something #1 like that? # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Mean the same Aux: #1 thing? # Interviewer: #2 That's right. # Well what about in a in a group of horses what do you call the male? Aux: A stallion. Interviewer: {D: It's a stallion?} Aux: Stallion, some people call 'em a {D: stud.} Interviewer: {X} {NS} Well what about uh the female horse? She's the? Aux: She's the mare. Interviewer: She's the mare? Aux: {NW} Interviewer: Okay. What about, talking about horses, if you tried to get on a horse and you couldn't stay on you'd say you've you do #1 what you # Aux: #2 He throws you. # Interviewer: He throwed or you fell? Aux: Yeah. Interviewer: Fell off the horse? Aux: That's right. Interviewer: Okay. Well what about if a little child went to bed and in the morning he woke up and he was on the floor? #1 You might say- # Aux: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: you might say to him, say well my goodness during the night mus- I must've Aux: Fell out the Interviewer: #1 Fell out the bed? # Aux: #2 bed. # Interviewer: #1 Did that ever happen to you? # 505: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 Yeah. # 505: #2 {NW} # {X} Aux: #1 Now I don't # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: remember ever falling out of it myself {D: but I'll} I had kids around me did fall. #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # 505: #2 {NW} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: {X} {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Well talking about horses, what do you call those things that you put on a, horse's feet to protect them? Aux: Shoes. Interviewer: Horseshoes? Aux: Mm-hmm. #1 Horseshoes # Interviewer: #2 And- # and the part of the horses foot that you put them on that's the what? Aux: The hoof. Interviewer: The hoof? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Have you ever played a game with those things, 505: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 {D: you gotta throw them}? # Aux: #1 Pitching horseshoes and {C: rooster crowing} # 505: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # #1 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # Aux: #2 {X} {C: rooster crowing} # {X} {C: rooster crowing} game. {NW} Interviewer: I don't suppose y'all have ever had any sheep around here have you? Aux: No there's not uh w- we have them but- 505: We haven't had {X} Aux: #1 {D: somehow} # 505: #2 {D: neighbors they} # Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 {D: We raise sheep.} # 505: #2 {X} # {D: Did they every day. I don't know why} {X} number nine. {D: We had sheeps all} right in front of my house {D: and he would just uh} {X} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 505: {D: And we didn't now} I never, been around while {X}. Interviewer: Well do you know what you call the male sheep? Aux: The ram. Interviewer: The- the ram? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And what about the female? Aux: That's the male. Interviewer: Yeah-huh and what is the female called? Aux: Uh let me see, {D: what was it}? I did know. 505: The ram and then I did too but I don't think I remember. Interviewer: {NW} Aux: I just remember 505: #1 {D: Yeah I don't know}. # Aux: #2 {X} # {D: The ewe, the}- 505: #1 {D: I do believe it is ewe} # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh uh-huh # ya I think that's right. 505: I think it's ewe. Interviewer: What do you- what would you raise sheep for mostly anyway? Aux: Well uh, 505: #1 {D: For their wool}. # Aux: #2 Their wool. # 505: For their wool. Aux: {X} I'd be {X} butcher {D: and mutton.} 505: {X} Interviewer: {NS} {D: Yeah?} The meat's pretty good? Aux: Mm yeah it is. {X} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Well what about, talking about your hogs, what do you call the male hog? Aux: A boar. Interviewer: He's the boar? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And a- and a little one? That's? Aux: He- he's just a pig. Interviewer: Just a pig? Aux: Just uh he {D: get up but then he} {D: the boar.} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Yeah. Well what about, what would you call a a male hog {D: that's been altered} you know? Aux: A barrow? Interviewer: A barrow? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And you- you'd say you did what to it? Aux: Uh uh {D: alter him}. Interviewer: {D: Alter him}? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: You ever heard people say anything else for that? They gonna? Aux: Uh cut him. Interviewer: Cut him? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: okay. What about those stiff hairs on the hog? What do you call those things? Aux: The what? Interviewer: You know those stiff hairs, on a hogs back? Aux: Uh his bristles. Interviewer: His bristles? Aux: Mm-hmm. Yeah he'd get mad then he'd throw that bristles up just like a dog. Interviewer: Is that right? Aux: Yes. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: {D: It hairs stand still} {D: on his back.} 505: {X} Aux: {D: He} He ready to charge you when they do that too. 505: That's the {D: it's only about eleven thirty.} {D: He's coming late today.} Interviewer: Who is that? 505: #1 {D: Mail carrier just done it}. # Aux: #2 {D: Mail carrier}. # Interviewer: Oh. Oh yeah. {D: You know} some hogs you know have these long teeth? Aux: {X}. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: The male {X} they get up, uh to, about {D: two year old uh} those {D: tusks just} grow and stick out the corner of their mouth. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: {D: Out} and one would fight cows and things. He never did challenge me but it {D: cut a} {D: mule} {X} or two of mine. Interviewer: Hmm. Aux: I'd {D: take} my hack saw and sawed them off, clean up {D: through the gum.} Interviewer: Is that right? Aux: And they they growed back out. Interviewer: Is that #1 right? # Aux: #2 Just # #1 as sharp as it was before. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} Aux: The next time I cut them, {X} after they growed out I got me a {D: wire} and tie them {D: in his top} of his mouth and got my {D: wire stretchers} and {D: staked them up to the} {X} {X} {D: front feet were clear}, Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And at {D: had in its top} {D: lip} he go to {D: a-hollering} I had my. {X} I {D: hit him there and} and knocked them out. They didn't come back. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Oh man does he {D: carry} too much for that. Aux: {D: Yeah.} {D: It's the} {D: are you gonna} break his jaw bone? I said I'd sooner break his jaw bone then he gonna kill up everything around here I got. Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {X} It's not my {X} {D: a dentist} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: {D: But didn't he come back that time}. Interviewer: Mm. 505: He was at church one Sunday and he had {D: one} that {D: tore his pen down} while he had a {X} and he can come by the church and kill us all. {X} Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {D: Uh and} the uh, {D: what was is a hog pen was sitting in the} {D: mule lot}. And the mule would go over there, eat over in the hog pin. {C: rooster crowing} Interviewer: Mm. {C: rooster crowing} Aux: And broke the {D: plank} {X} my hogs {X}, come out {X} {D: where this male was}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And man he got at them hogs just like a dog at a rabbit. Interviewer: {NW} Aux: And I was in church and somebody come and told me about the {C: rooster crowing} hog was out {C: rooster crowing} in the lot with my mare, and he had them hog cut all over. That's why he could {C: rooster crowing} {D: strike him at} he struck them down {X}. And one o- of them he- he hit him {D: in his hip} {D: and cut a long gash in his hip}, and one {D: he hit it} right up behind his whole shoulder {C: rooster crowing} {D: on the side.} {C: rooster crowing} And when I killed that hog he done cut him clean into the. {X} Interviewer: Mm. Aux: {D: The) the first {D: time in} January, both times, {C: rooster crowing} I come out the church and put on {D: water he} kill them hogs. {C: rooster crowing} {X} {C: rooster crowing} been so full of {D: fear.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: So me and my brothers come out of church and I got {X} out of. {X} {D: Then we put on} {D: water} and {X} {C: rooster crowing} {D: hung 'em up} {C: rooster crowing} laid them out there in the smoke house until the next morning. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: Yeah I, I went to. {X} What what happened? {D: I think my} {C: rooster crowing} hog got out {D: of the lot there} and you broke the fence and they come out the {D: the lot and that male got over} to them and I had come out of church and kill them hog. He said well go ahead and kill them {X} {C: rooster crowing} I told him that's just what I'm doing. {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Well let me ask you this, do you have any names for a hog that's grown up wild? Aux: Uh yeah {X} is just a wild hog #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 A wild hog? # Aux: Mm-hmm. I've never seen one but uh {D: years back} {X} about uh I'd say about four miles from here, when I was a kid my daddy and uh other friends that {D: the worker} {X} they had a {D: farm} {D: up} {D: the bottom there} {D: kind of.} {X} And uh Interviewer: Oh. Aux: they would have corn {D: plains} up there. And uh {D: along on their} {X}, {X} them on through, or maybe before then. They would uh {NS} hook up a wagon and a wagon load up with uh go up there {D: laying but then a wild hog} come out of the woods and eat up the corn up there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: {D: Then they} they killed {D: some up there} and then they {D: run in on some pigs} and they caught some {X} pigs. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: And saved them and a first cousin of mine had one he caught and {D: she} started {D: playing} and {D: raising them}. My daddy got a pig off of that pig. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: They were {X}, well the whole time he had her {D: was a never}, {D: she would bring pigs} and if you caught one of them pigs {D: buddy} you'd better make sure you getting out of that {D: lot} #1 in a hurry. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} Aux: But she was shifty. {X} Interviewer: Get after you huh? Aux: {D: A real slick black hog.} {X} When you- you see that bristle raise up her back you better be going. Interviewer: Yeah. Aux: {D: That's it) #1 that's how we # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Aux: had them old rail fences. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: You'd have bigger locks {X} you have now but {X} that's why you kept the hogs in the {C: rooster crowing} {D: lock} {X} {D: real fence}. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: But they would sure {D: get to you}. Interviewer: Yeah. Well tell me, have you ever heard a calf you know making a- a noise, like when it's being weaned or something like that? You'd say that calf was doing what? Aux: {D: I'd say} uh when it being weaned? Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: Bleating? Interviewer: Bleating? Aux: Mm-hmm. 505: #1 {X}. # Interviewer: #2 {X}. # Aux: Mm yeah. Interviewer: Well what about when a, you know a noise that a cow makes uh when it's being fed or something like that? 505: She'd low. Interviewer: {D: She} say she's lowing? Uh-huh. Well what about a horse when it's being fed? 505: Nicker. Interviewer: Uh-huh. Okay. Well what- Let's say if you got some cows and some mules and some horses and so forth and they get hungry you'd say you have to go out and? Aux: Feed 'em. Interviewer: Okay. And what about if you had some some animals like hens and turkeys and geese and ducks, you could call all them together your? 505: {X}. Aux: Feed your f- uh fowl Interviewer: #1 Right. # Aux: #2 {X}. # Interviewer: It wouldn't be the cattle, #1 would be the fowl # Aux: #2 Mm-mm. # Interviewer: {D: like that.} What about uh a pla- the place where you keep your chickens? That's called your what? Aux: The hen house. Interviewer: That's the hen house? Is that- well what about if you had just a place that was {D: pent up} or something like that instead of being uh- Is that the same thing as a hen house or? Aux: Well uh #1 the hen house that's where your chickens # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 {D: are roost there}. # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: And then uh a lot people would have uh what you call a chicken yard. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: You know your chickens not allowed to run out in the fields {D: so why you just have a} regular chicken yard Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: for 'em to stay in. But the hen house would be where they would lay at and go to roost at night. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Talking about chickens, when you fry chicken, there's one piece that uh that the children like to get you know, cause they #1 pull it # Aux: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: #1 apart? # Aux: #2 # #1 Uh-huh. # 505: #2 {D: Wouldn't that be a} # wing? Aux: {D: No that} you know what. {X} 505: Uh drums- uh oh the breasts? Aux: {X} {X} 505: #1 Uh-huh. # Aux: #2 {X} # #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {D: Yeah that's right. Like that. That's right.} # Have you- Aux: #1 {D: Uh that's that's} # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: {D: that's the}- 505: {NW} Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 {NW} # Too much meat. {X} Aux: Right in front of his uh chest. {X} Interviewer: Why- why do they like to you know one will grab hold #1 of one end- # Aux: #2 I I # I don't know why {X} I can't {X} {D: particular} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 505: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # {NW} Do you have any uh any one word that you use to describe the say the inside parts of the hog that are edible, you know that you can eat? {D: You call all that together or anything is} particular? Aux: Uh the inside of a hog? Interviewer: Yeah that you can eat. Aux: {D: I uh the} the liver {D: or out of the whole} thing is good to eat. Interviewer: #1 Yeah? # Aux: #2 And some # {D: people they say} I don't care much about the {D: lights} and Interviewer: Yeah, things like Aux: #1 and # Interviewer: #2 that. # Aux: then the heart Interviewer: #1 Ya. # Aux: #2 {D: mm.} # Uh, {D: milk}, the kidney and Interviewer: Uh-huh. Aux: the uh {D: maw} and the #1 {D: chitterlings} # 505: #2 {X} # People don't like chitterlings. Aux: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Have you ever heard that called haslet or #1 something like that? # Aux: #2 Yeah. # Yeah they use that. 505: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {D: How is that}? Aux: {NW} {X} liver and the haslet is {X} you know connected together. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What about, let's say if you ha- heard your your cows mooing along towards the uh late evening you might say well I didn't realize it was so late. {D: It's right on to?} Aux: Milking time or 505: Or feeding Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 time. # Aux: #1 feeding time. # Interviewer: #2 Feeding time? # What about if you wanted to call to a cow to tell your cows to get up and come up from the pasture? How would you call to them? Aux: #1 Soo soo soo. # 505: #2 Soo soo soo. # Aux: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Aux: some people have a different you know method of calling them. Depend upon how the the- the cows are trained. Interviewer: Is that right? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 Mm-hmm # {D: I can tell her come on in.} {X} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: #1 Some of them have # 505: #2 {NW} # Aux: cows named he can call him by his name and. 505: She come {D: trotting}. Aux: and she'll come on to the house. 505: #1 Come on # Aux: #2 Now. # 505: {X}. Aux: #1 I. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 505: She come. Aux: My hog I'll call them whoop and they'll come. And I got a a {D: barrel} out there with a a metal top to it #1 where I # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Aux: mix my feed in to feed them. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: They can be up here um in a. {X} Now I go out there and just raise that top up and slam it down on that barrel, and they'll come running just like I done #1 called them. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # #1 {NW} # 505: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 505: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NW} How do you call your hogs? 505: {D: They call her Sue}. Come on {D: Sue}! Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: {D: Then I tell her} get in that {D: lot}. {X} Get in that {D: lot}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: Sometime she come back like I'm gonna give her that switch. {X} Interviewer: Well what about if you were gonna call the calves, would you say the same thing? Aux: Yes {D: the calves.} Interviewer: #1 Same thing? # Aux: #2 {D: The calves.} # Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Well what about the horses or mules? Aux: I call them by {D: name}- {D: c'mon Bill, Kate or what have you} come over here. Interviewer: {D: Mm} call them by their name? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what about uh let's say if you wanted to- if you were- if you were riding on a horse or {D: had hitched} a buggy or something like that, and he wasn't moving. What would you say to him to get him started? Aux: {D: Come up}. Interviewer: {D: Come up}? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what about if he was- if he was moving along and you wanted him to go faster? Aux: {NW} Interviewer: Just Aux: #1 Cluck # Interviewer: #2 {X}. # Aux: #1 to him. # Interviewer: #2 Cluck to him? # Aux: #1 Or shake their line. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Uh-huh. 505: Or you tell him. {X} Aux: He {D: he'll realize} the movement of them lines it means for him to go. Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Now is- is that what you call uh those things that you guide #1 {D: by when you're plowing?} # Aux: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: #1 {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Yes your buggy line or wagon Interviewer: #1 line. # Aux: #2 Wagon line? # 505: #1 {X}. # Aux: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And if you wanted your horse to stop you'd #1 say to them? # Aux: #2 Whoa. # Interviewer: You'd say whoa to them? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what about- {D: I don't guess you know any calling to sheep} or anything like that? Aux: No I- I don't know the, how they, you know go about calling {X} #1 you know participated # Interviewer: #2 Yeah I never. # Aux: with them. Interviewer: Right. What about if you wanted to get your horses ready to go somewhere, you'd say that you have to get out there and do what to your horses to get them #1 ready? # 505: #2 {X} # Interviewer: And what about the- that stuff you have to put on 'em you know to? Aux: The harness. Interviewer: #1 The harness # 505: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {D: and} # 505: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: that kind of thing? {NW} What about the things that you put your feet in when you're riding a horse Aux: #1 those are? # Interviewer: #2 S- # Aux: Saddle stirrup. Interviewer: Stirrup? Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: When you- when you plow with horses or, when you have two horses {D: just hitched to} a wagon, uh do you call the horse on the left anything in particular? You say that's your? Aux: Uh well uh the horse on the left {NW} that's your saddle horse. Uh that is in a {X} drive the wagon or something. Interviewer: Oh? Aux: Y- You always use it to ride your left {D: hand} {D: wheel mule or} horse if it's a {D: log} wagon or something {D: then you} ride the left hand mule. Interviewer: Oh. Aux: That's {D: use your right hand} if you're {D: riding} {D: course some people may be} {D: left-handed.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. Aux: But in the {X} you want to {D: pop} your {D: lead} mule with your whip, your right hand is free to your {X} mule or {D: the ones.} {X} Interviewer: Oh yeah. Aux: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Yeah. What about if uh if something i- isn't right close to you. Not right near at hand you know? You might say it's just a little? Aux: Too far. {X} Interviewer: Or a little ways over Aux: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 or something like that? # okay. Well what about if you've been traveling for a long time and you're not yet even close to being through you know with where you have to go? Aux: Mm-hmm. You'd say that you still have? A long distance ahead. Interviewer: {X} Aux: I have so many {D: mile} {X} you know? You know {D: definitely the.} {X} You got so many miles to go {D: yet} before you know you get your {X} {C: noise} {X} {C: noise} Interviewer: Well what about if you're- if you can- if something's very common you know, and you can find it just you- you don't have to look for it in any special place? You say that you can find that just about? Aux: Anywhere. Interviewer: Just about anywhere? Yeah. Well what if a- if a man fell down in your yard and he- he fell that way? You'd say he fell? Aux: Backwards. Interviewer: And if he fell that way? Aux: {D: Forwards.} Interviewer: What about uh if you went fishing and you you didn't have good luck at all, and somebody ask you well did did you catch any fish? And you say naw I didn't catch- Aux: Didn't have no luck. I didn't catch nothing. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. You ever heard of people say didn't catch nary a one? Aux: #1 {D: Mm-hmm yeah.} # 505: #2 Yeah. # Aux: #1 I have- # 505: #2 {X} # Aux: #1 I have # 505: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 {D: many.} # 505: #2 {NW} # Aux: #1 {X} # 505: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {D: Right.} # 505: #2 {NW} # {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Well what about let's say if somebody accidentally stepped on your rake in the yard and broke it? You might tell them well that's alright, I didn't like it didn't like it anyway or Aux: #1 something like that? # Interviewer: #2 Uh yeah. # Okay. Well what about if you you might see a- a child crying, and you don't know why he's crying, and you ask him {D: why. He might say well) #1 I have? # Aux: #2 What # what's the matter with you? Interviewer: Alright or Aux: {NW} Interviewer: he would {D: let}- Aux: What happened to him #1 or something like that. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # And he might say well my friend was had some candy- he was eating some candy and he didn't give me? Aux: #1 Mm-hmm. # 505: #2 None. # Interviewer: #1 Didn't give me any? # Aux: #2 Any. # Interviewer: Okay. {NS} {NS} 505: Until she got fourteen {D: and that boy what I just showed you in that picture} now I raised him from a {D: baby he's born in the house} and I raised him all the way until he. {X} And then I raised another boy {D: and he came out as a} {D: dead daddy} {D: he didn't know}, I learned how to. {X} Now he's in uh {X}? {X} {D: tell you where my Sammy is}. He got his own business, shop, nice home. He comes to see me. {D: Sew me clothes}. {D: I don't buy no clothes}. Interviewer: Well that's good. 505: #1 {X}. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 505: I said that, I said you know I never have the money {X}. {D: I looked uh I told you} {D: if I were to buy anything when I went to you} Come live with me {D: you've been having to work}. But you know {X} {D: I tell you we were} {X} {D: I remember you} {X} I said {X} I said I don't want no more. {X} You know how to do that {X} but you know sometime I don't want you cooking. Now when he come home he came here little before Christmas and {X} I {D: sent you the right coat}. {X} {X} {X} Said I forgot that coat. {NW} I {D: said} let me {X} I said boy they were so warm. {D: He say} {D: what you talking} {X}. {D: I'm gonna send you} {X}. They come closer and closer {X}. Interviewer: Hmm. 505: The kids {D: is gonna miss} {X} {D: uh-huh they'll buy no clothing.} And I got three {X}. And I say {D: to him} you should just some people just. {X} And then {X} think I'm going somewhere {X} I got to think of {D: thing of two three pair of shoes in there.} {X} {D: Had so many brother} {X} you ain't going nowhere but {X} {D: this church and that church}. And I got- I was getting ready to go to {X} {D: walking from there back to} {X} and that's when these {X} the boy {X}. I hadn't bought anything but my {X}, and I was getting ready to get {X}. {D: Now you got} {D: stock like that. You know above that} {X} to Vicksburg {X}. And that's where my husband grew sick. {D: I make} {X}. {D: But I thought} I don't like- I don't like {D: to travel}. Mm. Interviewer: Well let me ask you this, if- what if you knew a- a boy who'd been spoiled by his parents you know? And you thought when he got when he got older. When he was- when he got grown up he was probably gonna- he's probably gonna have his troubles? What would you- what would you tell me, you know, in the way of telling me what you thought would happen to them? You'd just say, that boy is? 505: He is spoiled. He just really {D: need- just really} {X}. {D: but here's what I'm going to tell you.} {D: And I'm telling you} {D: if you find a little boy} Parents brought him up {X} thought that he was better than other kids. And I said when he come up that's when I say he shouldn't talk too much. I said {D: he will never be} {X}. I shouldn't given him everything he want while he little. And let him have his way. I said when he get grown I said he won't. {X} Interviewer: Is that right? 505: {D: You know when that kid come up and} {X} he said {X} that he would want {D: to share} with other kids {X}- He- I tell you what he- they was a- {D: that he was adopted child}. They won't. {X} But I just {D: I had said he'd never be no good} but I sure made a bad mistake. {D: I should've not said we can make mistakes} {X}. My boy got up and got grown. He said I {D: only had everything that a kid} could have to play with. And had all kind of toys and any kind of food that I thought I wanted to eat. {X} He said now there's {X}- there's a heap of kids out there ain't got {D: changing clothes}. You know you have to think of these things {D: in mind.} She say- he said {D: now I don't have everything that I think a kid need}. He said nuh-uh, I wanna {X}. Said but I- if I have some kids I'm not gonna bring them up like a {D: grown up}. I'm gonna let them know to {X}, and they be tired of what {X} getting to know how to take care. I said well I didn't think you gonna ever have {D: assist} enough to do nothing. {X} {D: Being a man}. I said but I have to tell you I'm proud of you. He grab and hug me kiss me and he said {D: you ain't nothing but my mama} {X} Interviewer: {NW} 505: I says uh yeah. I said I'm proud of it. I said I said way Miss {X} brought you up and give you everything {X} and everything. I say when you mad {X} {D: gonna get you and have a hard time}. I said but {D: honest to me} I'll tell you to your face {D: I lied.} He said don't say that. I said yeah. I said when you don't tell the truth you lie. I said now you {D: done marry}, you got a family, I said you got the sweetest wife {D: and I saying you so} {X}. {NW} He said you silly thing you. Yeah and he- he grew up and he had a nice home. He had a nice wife too, {D: I'll be giving it to him}. She did- and he {D: brought her} just what he thought that she needed and his home was just as nice as anything {X} {D: a man's house.} {X} And then he went there {X} about it. {D: He would set a} place on the table {X} just a little dish {X} that table was full. Now you can. {X} He said now {D: that why- that's one thing done.} {X} E- everytime I sit down to the table {D: I could eat what I want}. He said {X} put everything on y'all's table that you could eat, and that you didn't need to eat {D: and so today you're stepping like a fool} working hard, trying to keep that same. {X} I said well you right. {D: Did I make} you want to have something {D: but your parents bring you up} decent and have a {X} you trying to have. {X} Do you think that's right? Huh? {D: They have a plenty of food}, I don't mean no expensive food I mean {D: common} food. Now me and my daddy ate no expensive food. {D: like some folks.} But he- he'd give us all {X} food but we {D: had plenty left.} So I think. {X} {D: Heap of people who are grown and got} {X}. {D: I ain't know what's my back but in my stomach.} {X} {X} I want at least a nice clean home to live in, but I ain't never I ain't never had {D: nothing to work all my life because I} I want. {X} Interviewer: {X} 505: That's right. Interviewer: {X} Let me ask you, we were talking about farming this morning, what do you call those trenches that are cut by a plow? You know 505: #1 {D: A waterfall.} # Interviewer: #2 when you? # 505: {D: Mm-hmm.} And what about if you had some land that you want- you wanted to get the bushes and the trees off of it? You'd say you need to do what to it? Well you need to go clear that up. Now sometime if it's not {X} {X} {D: That} when I first saw {X} so much of {X} {D: was in woods.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 505: And we have. {X} Interviewer: Is that right? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what do you call a piece of land that's just been {X}? 505: {D: New ground}. Interviewer: New ground? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well what about if uh- if you have just cut off some grass or hay or something like that. What do you call it when it comes up again right after that? That's the #1 what? # 505: #2 Well that's # the second crop. Interviewer: Second crop? 505: Mm-hmm. Just like if you {X}, and my brother got some {X} {D: down here.} {D: Now if he had uh} {D: if that hadn't been earlier then he couldn't} {D: get it come back out and he} {X} second crop. Interviewer: Yeah. 505: Uh-huh. Mm-hmm #1 that's the- # Interviewer: #2 What do you # what do you call wheat when you cut it and tie it up into bundles? So you got a? 505: Well I never seen it {X}- I seen them t- I seen them tie oats up that way {D: for stock.} But wheat {X} thresh it and they. {X} Interviewer: {X} 505: Uh-huh. Interviewer: What was- he was talking about this morning, shocks? 505: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Uh # could you call wheat you know that's? 505: Yeah you could take that uh {D: after you} combine that {D: wheat} that uh, that wheat often uh- {D: off the stalk.} You can take that {D: wheat store} and put it in shocks. But most people now, they used to bale it up but most people now take {D: it uh} take that uh, wheat {D: straw and bundle it up}. Now most {D: of you be around if you would} {D: round} and then cut that wheat {D: where you see.} {X} {D: They bundle} {D: wheat straw.} Now {X} because just like if you got uh {D: some uh} race horse track uh you keep {D: you have} race horses. {D: Are there broken horses?} You can use that in that stable {D; for you know}, {D: on a path} they use it {D: but then} {D: they don't use it} but they use it for other {D: pens to keep them horses} {X}, just like they have {D: means} to clean it out. They put so much of that in and {D: they never come out and have them use straw.} {X} Now the {X} {X} going in to {X} {X} {D: Jackson}. He got a- he got a race track {D: up there by the} {X} {D: walking} horses. Now I haven't had a chance to go out and {D: visit it.} Tried twice. And that's the {D: prettiest thing.} {X} They gotta {D: race} some of them horses. {X} {D: Now they come up} {X} {D: and we gotta go pick 'em up}. {D: And then is this} just like you {D: stepping}. Interviewer: Mm. 505: {D: And} {D: and after they get trained} you just wanna see them race. Interviewer: Yeah? 505: Yeah that's {X}, {D: but they ain't it}. And they get trained now. They ain't got them {D: weights on their back to break them. You know I ain't got} {X} {D: put 'em back on make 'em} {D: try to put them on the back.} {D: Well that's a pretty thing}. Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Well let me ask you about a few e- expressions. Let's say if uh {X} we have to do something together you- you would say not just one of us has to do this, but? 505: Both of us. Interviewer: Or what about if uh you and another man were coming over to see me, you would say that and are coming over. 505: Huh? {D: How you saying how you said that}? Interviewer: {D: You'd say} what if you just wanted to refer to another man? You know not call him by his name? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: You'd do it- you just might say that 505: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 505: #1 I and my # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 505: friend's coming over to visit you. Interviewer: Okay. Or what about if, let's say, you came up to the door and knocked on the door? And I I knew that it was you, but I couldn't see you cause the door's closed? 505: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And I said who's that? You'd just say oh it's? 505: Oh it's. {X} Interviewer: Or if you didn't wanna u- if you didn't just use you name you might just say it's? It's just? 505: A friend? Interviewer: Okay or, let's see uh, how else could you possibly say it? It's a friend or it's {X} or you could just say it's... you know like, like if I know who it is, and I can recognize your voice. You might just say aw it's just? 505: Me. Interviewer: Okay. What about, talking about how tall you are, comparing how tall you are to somebody else, you might say that he isn't as tall as? 505: He's not- he- he's not as tall as I. Interviewer: Well what about if uh, uh, {D: again} talking about how tall you are, you might say well, I'm not as tall as? 505: I'm not as tall as {D: he}. Interviewer: Or, talking about {C: noise} how well you can do something, you might say well, he can do it better than? 505: {D: Better than that}. Interviewer: Well what about if a man had been {D: running} for about two miles and after two miles he just had to stop. You'd say that- that two miles is a? 505: {D: Long journey}. Interviewer: {D: Most he could go or} farthest he could go or something like #1 that? # 505: #2 Yeah. # He uh- uh- uh- uh two miles is a long journey and I figured he just about had {D: give out.} Interviewer: {NW} 505: #1 And I know he would have. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 505: {X} Interviewer: That's true. okay if a {D: if something belonged me} I'd say that that's? 505: You'd say that's {D: mine}. Interviewer: {D: And if- if} something belongs to you, you'd say that's? 505: I'd say that's- that's mine. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. {C: rooster crowing} Or if something- if something belonged to him, you'd say that's? 505: That's his. Interviewer: Belongs to her you say that's? 505: That's hers. Interviewer: If it belongs to them you say? 505: That's their- that's theirs Interviewer: Okay. Well what about if- if some people {X} have come to visit you, and you- and they're about to leave, you'd- what would you say to them if you wanted them to come back sometime? 505: {D: I'd say well} come back to see me again. Interviewer: Okay. Well what about if a? {X} {C: muffled speech}