Interviewer:  Nothing like a good ol' {D: pool} of water on a hot day. Okay I was asking you if a group of people came to see you in the same car and uh and you looked outside and noticed that the lights were on what might you tell 'em?
505:  {D: What might I tell 'em?} If the light is on I said who is that? If I didn't know who they were.
Interviewer:  Oh well I'm talking about if they were already in your house you see and they left their car parked and you noticed that they had left
505:  #1 the lights on, what would you do? #
Interviewer:  #2 Oh yeah. #
505:  I saw yeah you had you left your lights on go out and turn 'em off.
Interviewer:  Do you ever say, I know you you probably say y'all {C: rooster crowing}
505:  {D: Oh excuse me that's wrong}
Interviewer:  Oh no not necessarily. {C: laughing} If uh what about a do you ever say uh would would you pa- might you say something like uh uh the lights on y'all's car?
505:  #1 The light that's on the car? #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
505:  Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Say something like is that's y'all's car? {C: rooster crowing}
505:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  You would say something like that?
505:  I would say is that i-is that's y'all's car y'all left the lights #1 on? #
Interviewer:  #2 Oh yeah. #
505:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Let's say that that uh some people you know at the end of a party and you hadn't been able to go
505:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  and you wanted to know everybody who was there you would ask, what would you ask them?
505:  Well uh there's uh uh someone definitely liable to know what they {X} {X} #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
505:  {X} You went to party?
Interviewer:  {D: Oh yeah.}
505:  And was uh Frank at the party?
Interviewer:  Well what about if you were asking you know just in general, {NW} you might say you know not asking about anybody specifically {C: rooster crowing} but you might say well who?
505:  Who all was at the party?
Interviewer:  Or let's say that you couldn't get to church on Sunday for some reason. And you were asking somebody afterwards what the preacher had to say?
505:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Everything they said, you'd ask
505:  I would ask as uh who was this to? What was he preaching about?
Interviewer:  Or maybe you said you you said you might say ask who all was there, do you think you might say well what all did he say? Or what all did he have to say?
505:  Yeah.
Interviewer:  Something like that?
505:  Mm.
Interviewer:  Let's say this is uh, another expression. You might say well, {C: rooster crowing} if no one else will look after them, {C: rooster crowing} you'd say that they've got to look out for? {NS}
505:  If no one else {X} {C: noise} what you mean uh {C: noise} it was like someone was sick or something? {C: noise} {NS}
Interviewer:  Right. But just say a group of people talking about 'em together. You might say about 'em well, if no one else will look after 'em, they've got to look after?
505:  I'll do the best I can I'll do what I can for them.
Interviewer:  Or maybe just they've got to look after #1 themselves or #
505:  #2 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #1 something like that #
505:  #2 they uh. # And then, if nobody else will care for them now they'll do the best they can for theirself.
Interviewer:  Or you might say uh if no one else will do it
505:  #1 Excuse me here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Sure. #
505:  #1 {NS} #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
505:  {X}
Interviewer:  Oh! Okay. Should've brought a handkerchief or something. {NS}
505:  I'm still sitting there I can't say nothing cause that's what's there. Every night {D: you been sitting there lemonade a cold.}
Interviewer:  Okay.
505:  And I ain't been sitting in there one minute and I saw your yeah I don't know you's been {X} my sister in law she can go out there and come back in why don't you do that I said get {X} {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
505:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  Yeah. {D: I bet about doing that.} It's something you can't help though.
505:  {D: Uh um that's good for for your your your your storm- and uh} {C: rooster crowing} and you're {X} it see that's good for you.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Pulling this gig. That's what Diamond told me. Used to tell me all day I said that to you on {X} {D: so I can play it up on they said it ain't good for you.} I really don't {X} {D: I said} {X} {D: you wanna sitting here this silly thing just.} you need me ready {D: I wasn't getting all sweaty and nippy and after I got up in age I went to sweating so bad.} {X} {D: Sure did.}
Interviewer:  Kinda cools you off you know.
505:  Yeah it does it that sweat the thing that cools you off {D: and um being in front I always could shop fast.} I get out and get them with a {D: There's a nippy allowance to come up with jean doing now} {X} She could be there one of those people kind like at in the Bible {D: that's not.} both teams gonna need a piece of game. {X} {D: I need people.} {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  {X} {D: You ain't done nothing this time I been I beat you} {X} I said Mama one day I would have theorized if I'm being one to you I'm gonna beat you {D: I said I ain't gonna let you beat me if I have to tear my papers up.} She didn't take it up you know. She said Baby it, you ain't cut out to do everything said you riding a horse in your driveway and saw you cutting wood you do everything the boys said you can't do everything or I'm gonna beat you one of these things you got She said well I ain't got another child here to beat. Said one day there would be a be a bunch of trips at night. {X} {X} {D: Now Jordan about to leave us} some kind of {X} like I fixed it in our church and I said I needs to be kinda as oh I am so sleepy {D: she said oh maybe today's a good day for you to beat me to pick me} {X} I said well I guess so. I went back in the house I had some little ol' plates that I put them {D: plants on} {X} {D: I said well get your date night} I hadn't got a hundred {D: and eighty-nine and nine looking like I couldn't get two hundred to save my life.} {D: She Mama filled trying the day to day}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  {D: And that day, do you know what I repeat that day?} Two hundred and thirty-two pounds tackle {NS} {C:whistle} Sure did. {D: She said I knew I knew the greenage to just wait and see you can p-} {D: so you pick a while and then you go ahead and you roll them play and see} {D: and that that means that I beat you} {NW} {C: laughter} {D: She said now that I beat you I'll get another baby} {D: and hydrate or pick which three are going}
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  Oh Mama. {X} {D: Who's there is the back in the back yawning I know that them.} {X} {X} {NW} {D: Until I think these {X} {D: always have been selling.} She got two hundred two three things {D: my bed kinda creaking man too.} {X} If you got in very back of the house yeah I might not back in my bed see you get so much {D: trouble.} {D: They've authorized Ms. Kennedy Jacqueline's too} {D: and I was trying that children's like this and sitting on the back you know} taking him in the house. And we hit a hole and we stacked him in a tree {X} we got a heaving and he was hollering at us {D: one of his feet caught his toe caught his in the cup of his pants} {D: and now he's bringing two hundred and I'm gonna be his nothing then.} {X} {D: He's turning that chair when I turn that chair and sweeping up the kids} here before he does heart and I pulled a muscle in my back. And when I hollered son and Mama's eating suddenly he jumped up and {X} let the man out. Mama said come here let's get her and Daddy done fell and she done caught him. And then he got to the tree he said Nita said I hope you {X} {X} {X} {X} By the way there were two hundred. {X} And I {X} {X} {X} And then he knocks and he just kind of snatch me buy me a kitchen buy me bowling you know the chairs was coming with him I didn't try to catch the chair I just caught him keeping you know from hitting her hard. {D: And I hit him head on and someone got that} he said you're hurting? he said you wanna go to the doctor? {X} Got a different stuff than on my back and he kept on getting in trouble he said doctor doctor you know how he say that she's got a pulled muscle infected she got that between {X} {D: and the older she gets it must be as now in my back get me something.} {X} Every time I cough in my throat and my head here so and something some kind of color {X} I missed your back {X} {X} {NS}
Interviewer:  Let me ask you this. Let's say uh you might say if no one else will do it for her you say he'd better do it?
505:  Hisself.
Interviewer:  Tell me about different types of {D: breads that stove out.}
505:  Oh yes well I know about {D: this is bread, bread.} Cornbread. Flapjacks that's bread. And uh wheat bread that's light bread true enough that's wheat bread {D: that's about the biggest types I know.}
Interviewer:  You mentioned flapjacks, have you ever heard people call those anything else?
505:  Yes, some folk call them things pancakes.
Interviewer:  Pancakes? {X} Talking about pancakes #1 you hear? #
505:  #2 Yeah. # Yeah pancakes that's uh I see 'em make them oh I never did like none of that poppy seed like little. {X}
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  {X} But I never did like it when they put it you know you can plop 'em over that grease it {X} {D: go on top of it but} that's too much grease for me Yeah but he he liked them like that you get that solid molasses you know used to raise? And he could just take that fork and cut that bread like it {X}
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  Uh-huh. {D: And they was crazy about.} {X}
Interviewer:  You mentioned cornbread uh have you ever heard of any type of cornbread that people talk about making maybe on a board at a part of the fireplace? Or something like #1 that? #
505:  #2 Ash cake. #
Interviewer:  Ash cake? Really made it in ashes?
505:  Mm-hmm. I saw it. Another famous and my grandma grandmother said that too. {X} Have a stove and things {D: to fish and cook on.} {D: She uh said you} {X} You're brewing sweeping mashing {X} and you take that make that bread up hot water bread up you make it up with hot water and uh some people put a little grease in the mound I always see grandmother {X} {X} put it down in and take them ashes then they seal them ashes between put them ash on top of there don't you know that's some good bread.
Interviewer:  I like it a little bit.
505:  {X} That uh the mash to make that bread taste so good and then they get it and it get done good and brown they take it out and get in some film nice clean rag and wrap that them ashes on. And you you ain't never eaten that have?
Interviewer:  Ash cake?
505:  Uh-huh. I don't believe it's ever taste good to me.
Interviewer:  {D: I don't believe it.}
505:  {X} I'm surprised that nobody imagined it to do for your bread.
Interviewer:  Seems like it wouldn't do much. Seems like it would make it taste bad to me.
505:  Nu-uh I did I thought it too. But it got the best taste. And uh one day uh she sitting there talking about it I said {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  She said Imma learn you make sure you know how to make them let you make them And uh my daddy ever stated. {X} And then that's why daddy. {X} {NW} {D: He came in just about time my grandmother got this bread.} {X} {NW} He said she said I wanna learn everything I know so when she get grown she know what to do. And when you jet out it's always good. And she told me what it means and right here where my house is now {D: this is where she get in for the cabin crossing} {D: this is why I got my spot over in their hairs so} {X} {D: I never did get nowhere.} {X} {D: She was sitting there and she said} {X} {X} she had a little strip right back to her house there's a ditch between then {D: my son now he may come in behind and} {D: Lord he just} {X} and she and this troop of {X} {D: and she'd be throwing that cat in the knife.} {X} {D: She said God bless you} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {X} {X} you know what people saying? I find with somebody there see she make me feel her. {X} Paula said she said {X} I'm gonna get you in the dead of night. She said now what you gonna do with the rest of your month I said uh I'm gonna buy them my man she said good. What'd you say? I said I'm gonna buy with with Mama {X} Mama and who? I said Papa and Bill's uh. She said what you gonna get there? I {D: said I'm gonna give them a half a bed and I'm gonna take the other bed.} She said {NW} {D: So they read you won hadn't you?} Usually uh {X} {X} I said now I put more money in the bank and I said when they need somebody to share it with she said I didn't think he'd even miss it.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
505:  #2 {NW} # {D: And instead she} {D: she told Paula} she said, you know what? As long as I'm gonna be old, Lord, {D: and then she said I know because you're ready} {D: and she said she's gonna come over to your house.} Said she gonna wear everything. {D: Right to the T.} But I did her dress and I couldn't have sewed anything she {X} shoot {X} and then they paying not that deal she could cook that mess and pudding she'd make 'em put it in a painting when it get done it be ready at. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {D: They kept talking about doing that and I never put the} {X}
Interviewer:  Talking about molasses is there anything else people called that?
505:  Some of 'em called it a sorghum molasses some of 'em call it syrup.
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing? #1 Molasses and #
505:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 sorghum syrup? #
505:  #2 Uh-huh. # {D: And then the a- all you buy now is different kind of circular some of 'em sent invitations some of them.}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
505:  And some sets uh without I have never seen someone that'll vote it tasted just like real like sorghum molasses they have invitation now that is. {X} They have the sorghum mirror {D: pure gold thing now.} Or they're. {X}
Interviewer:  Talking about corn bread what do you call these big round and it's about about that size and?
505:  {X}
Interviewer:  {D: Now would you} they cook it in a #1 pan with #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #1 so many holes in it? #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  Well what about these aren't muf- muffins, but they're they're shaped like little balls? Have onion in them, uh #1 you know #
505:  #2 oh #
Interviewer:  #1 {X} #
505:  #2 {D: yes I've seen} #
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
505:  #2 {X} # {X} Fish sticks though.
Interviewer:  Fish stick?
505:  Mm-hmm. Now some of them {D: someone did some of 'em came in a ball}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And I got a little over a. {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  Uh-huh. Eh? Now that's what you can cook. {NW} {X}
Interviewer:  I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before.
505:  Oh you hadn't. {NS} {D: And and many a people been trying to buy up the rest of this antique stuff.}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  And I'll use this stuff to better pack {D: that old mission in this safe here and you then use these jars in another safe} {D: Uh-huh.}
Interviewer:  Now this is, this isn't the same thing as uh, talking like a hush puppy is?
505:  No it could {X} anything like they like you talking about them {D: long.} {D: And throwing and everything in.} {X}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  And you can just cook {D: straight out corn bread in here I cooked some now} the corn sticks in here. Uh-huh just like I got {X} some time I got greens or something like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  I could sit there I could sit in here. So one day a man asks me he said ain't you gonna break that bar shed I said mm-mm. He said I'm about to have that kitchen grill by my side {D: but I was tricking you but I'm not giving it up.} {NW}
Interviewer:  I wouldn't either #1 {D: I hadn't ever seen I I hadn't seen any} #
505:  #2 No? #
Interviewer:  {D: thing like that.}
505:  See him?
Interviewer:  {X} {C:dog barking in background}
505:  {X} {C: dog barking in background} {X} {C: dog barking in background} {NS} {C: dog barking} {NS} Let me see uh {NS} {X} I missed somebody come in
Aux:  yeah uh I used uh my mother when my mother passed
505:  just then I feel I had never. {NS} My mother had all kind of {X} {D: I had many} {X} one of them. {X} {NS} And my Mama {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  {X} I won't come and everything. I'll go go somewhere and eat. Get so much trouble. {X} {X} {X} A man came on here been back. Mm-hmm he'd been about a month ago now that and I had this man he stood me up {D: tell you the truth} {X} {NW} and he you know he give me three {X} three pieces.
Interviewer:  Hmm.
505:  {X} {D: he said he tried his best} {X} and he certainly won't.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  He said if you had just let me have {D: that had a little thing no more.} {D: He called me to him and} {D: and he said if you'd just let me have} {X} {D: I'd give you ten dollars for it.} {X} And he said now do you go ahead and do you {D: and I goes} I said mm-hmm. {NW} {C: laughter} {D: He said using messages said} I said if you want it that badly. Here's a thing that looks just like it had another hole in it can of {X} just like that and it did now. {X} just to the middle of that. But he could carry three glasses on. {X} And he liked it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And he can reach {X} He said he ain't never seen nothing like it before. {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  He said what are you gonna do I said {X} well now you know.
Interviewer:  Well let me ask you, have you ever seen any kind of cornbread that was made uh deep pan and it's pretty soft, almost as, so soft you could just kinda spoon it out you know almost like mashed potatoes?
505:  Cornbread?
Interviewer:  You got a kind of cornbread like that?
505:  No I have seen cush made like that. It's made like corn bread with onions and um banana sometimes you can put that um sage in it and black pepper. Now yes I've seen cush made like that before.
Interviewer:  Yeah have you ever heard of anything called spoon bread?
505:  Uh-huh. Now that's made out of that's made out of sorghum molasses now that's {D: what Mrs. Norm called it.} we called it corn bread pudding.
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  Have you ever eaten any of that?
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  Well now I've tried everything but that's one thing I've never tried to cook. {D: That old lady was named Mo Smith Stevis.} {X} my daddy used to eat {X} out of the woods and he died.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  She cooked she cooked this corn bread pudding and I'm telling you she would give us if you hadn't got a piece of it you'd be mowing some hope.
Interviewer:  {NS}
505:  And my mother would cook it but I have never tried and she said that's the only thing that she know that I seen Peter cook that I didn't look like I could make it {X} I tried one and it wouldn't even come out right and I throwed it in the slop. {NW} {C:laughter} Well you see you're in a bit of a mess now. Said you didn't make it right like your Mama told you see you put too much shortening in. But mine didn't taste like hers and I never did try no more. But she could make the best corn bread pudding with sorghum molasses. She put so much sorghum molasses and she put no sugar in it. {X} And she put eggs in it. And she put the shortening. #1 It just smelled like a cake but #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
505:  But there's sorghum molasses in that corn bread you don't know how good that taste.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of anything called a corn dodger?
505:  No.
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  {X} What is that?
Interviewer:  I'm not sure what it is, it's, it seems to be different things to different people what you call a uh a corn stick or uh or fish stick #1 something like that, #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  some people call corn dodgers #1 some people. #
505:  #2 That's I imagine # that's about the same thing as something like a muffin like #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm. #
505:  in that I imagine so.
Interviewer:  What about okay.
505:  Oh yeah. {X} {X} One day. {X} {D: But you couldn't hear what.} {X} {D: It's a flour bread} {D: you know I don't want no cornbread} {X} I said {X} {D: I said what I did tonight?} {D: He said nah you too.} {X}
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah. #
505:  #2 {NW} {C: laughter} #
Interviewer:  Some people say that they're really only two kinds of bread, there's a the homemade bread and then there's a kind that you buy at the store that's called a the uh homemade bread and you got?
505:  Light bread and what?
Interviewer:  Just light bread? You ever heard of people call that store bought bread or bought bread?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about this uh these things that you make out of out of batter? And you fry 'em in deep fat and they have a hole right in the middle of them?
505:  Oh I know it {X} are you talking about uh donuts?
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of taking some donut batter and just dipping it in the deep fat? and cooking it that way?
505:  No I haven't I tell you what I'll be frank with you I haven't saw {X} donuts cooked in my life. {D: But if you're gonna give me the recipe then I promise you that I was gonna cook it.} But I've never tried it but I believe I can.
Interviewer:  Is that right?
505:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  I haven't had uh I haven't had gosh a home homemade donut in ages probably hadn't had it more than one or two times.
505:  Well I tell you what I got a I got a niece that need a {X} {D: in a bakery now she looked at me she make.}
Interviewer:  Yeah?
505:  She made a batch of 'em when she come here and she said to me {X} {D: did you ever make me a} {D: seminole cake?} {D: And I said I poured so much food in all that stuff} But she said I know you can cook in any kind of kitchen you want but I want you to cook this. I said no you're gonna have to show me how you cook it. Now tell me how you cook it. I said damn near tried. She said you want me to bring you on? I said. {X} {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  And she cooked it. And uh she called me the other day and she says have you tried that cake I said no I haven't. {D: Since I got up in my seventies see if I cook a whole cake for myself} {D: if the kids ain't out of school they'll come by here with {X} children and eat it up. It's just a waste, and I don't do that. {D: You know just like I} {X} something like that like. Or the family that'll come for the funeral.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {X} This knee by myself {D: and I hardly ever bake a cake.} {D: I cooked that boy} {D: that boy what I told you} {X} and he uh {X} and he said. What did you put in this pie? I same thing I guess you put in yours mm-hmm. He said that's the best pie 'cause all you can cook. I said you said that because. {X} Until you get back. {NW} I I used to love to cook but since after my mom's husband. {X} {D: It makes a difference.} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  So tell me when you make bread, what is that stuff that you put in the bread to make it rise?
505:  Well if you've got straight flour you put your pinch of soda and baking powder and salt. And if you just got self-rising flour you put your shortening and your shortening in it. {X}
Interviewer:  Is there anything else you could put in it to make it rise?
505:  No, no more than baking powder and soda.
Interviewer:  What about yeast?
505:  Oh you use yeast when you're making light bread.
Interviewer:  Oh. Well what about?
505:  My mother used to make light bread all the time. That's one thing I hadn't tried.
Interviewer:  What about the two parts of an egg, you got the white and the?
505:  And the yolk.
Interviewer:  What color is it?
505:  The the the yolk is the white and then the the yellow.
Interviewer:  What about some different ways to cook an egg that you know about?
505:  Oh you can poach eggs. You can scramble 'em. You can uh flip 'em. {D: And then uh even if you want to poach 'em in water.} {X} {X} Then turn it over.
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  {X}
Interviewer:  What do you call that piece of meat that you make to go along into the greens? {X}
505:  {X} #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
505:  You can have the fat off the shoulder or the fat off the head.
Interviewer:  Yeah I was trying to ask you if that had a lot of lean on it or not?
505:  Uh th-that ham was the one that. {X}
Interviewer:  What about this is a a type of meat that a lot of people like to eat for breakfast it comes in slices you know and?
505:  {X} Bacon?
Interviewer:  Now is that the same what if you wanted to buy a lot of it and you didn't want to get it sliced, you might buy yourself a whole?
505:  You can there buy your whole self a whole slab.
Interviewer:  Now is smoked meat the same thing as bacon? {NS}
505:  Well it's smoked bacon they smoke uh {X} {D: middling meat.} Now you can you can you can smoke your ham. That George and Billie used to smoke uh. {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  Now I just use the {X} salt because. {X} But um uh that come with something like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {NW} {C: cough}
Interviewer:  What what about if your meat's been kept too long, you'd say that it's now what?
505:  Oh it done got strong. And then got rancid, {D: something's eating the meat.} Rancid now rancid and strong's the same thing.
Interviewer:  {D: Old?}
505:  No it's not strong, it just done got old and here if you hang it up and my meat I've got mine in deep freeze.
Interviewer:  It's not necessary to spoil 'em?
505:  Nah there ain't no spoiling it's. {X} {X} We had him cut some and I take mine down boil the knife.
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  Mm-hmm. Now now now I could've uh let me see I coulda showed him {D: what's he gonna show let me see.}
Interviewer:  Okay. Tell me about what you can make for with uh the meat from a hog's head?
505:  {D: Oh you can make souse salad} you can take the head and the ears and the feet and make souse.
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  Take that meat and cook it all to pieces and take it {D: you don't want to grind but it's not that you take a hand and work in it.} But when you grind it it's just falls to mush you know when you cook it {X} {X} Your sage and your black pepper if you like a little red like it hot you can put red pepper in it. Cayenne pepper. And put it squeeze it up real good then you put it in a con- in a container {D: I get it thick as you want it as thin as you want it.} And let it sit there until it. {X} {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard souse called head cheese?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Same thing?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about making something by grinding up hog liver and uh cooking it, you ever heard of anything like that?
505:  No.
Interviewer:  Beg pardon?
505:  I begged pardon, I asked you, what did you say?
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of making anything by cooking it and grinding up hog liver?
505:  No. Or. Yes I did. I take that back. Some people would make {X} {X} we called it. We put onions and {D: vinegar} and peppers and whatnot. Take that vinegar and put it in there and they call it uh what they call that stuff? {X} Was ready to come back from uh. {X} {X} {D: But I laughed.} I said {X} I said I like beef. {X} {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  She said I likes the way you cook it. She said I haven't been able to eat here tonight that you cook. I says that I just used fried egg and Crisco I said I made a gravy too and and put some onions in it. She says I I watched you and how you cooked that I says yeah-huh that's that's the way my mother taught me to cook it and she got this other one cooked all to pieces. {X} And uh now how she worked it up cause I {X} {D: come back up.} I imagined she had went {D: and still not gonna give you the sides.} But she put all these ingredients in there {D: and I ain't gonna tell you no story.} {X} Onions and she put sage in there. Black pepper and garlic they're in there too.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  #1 {D: Now she} #
Interviewer:  #2 Now tell. #
505:  she was fixing to. {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  So tell me, have you ever heard of anybody making something out of hog's blood?
505:  I have heard talk of it but I've never seen it. Well wha- what could it be?
Interviewer:  I don't know, it doesn't sound too appetizing to me.
505:  And oh me neither but they tell me {D: they'll keep that hog blood in for something like that.} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah. And what about, have you ever taken or have you ever heard of anybody taking the juice from the souse and mixing it up with some corn meal and some hard meat maybe and and uh cooking it and then uh maybe after it gets cold, slicing it up and frying it that way?
505:  {X}
Interviewer:  {X} Okay what about if if you kept your butter too long and it doesn't taste good #1 you'd say it's? #
505:  #2 It's rancid. #
Interviewer:  {D: Rancid?}
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard anybody say that their butter had a funky taste #1 or something like that? #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. # They said {X}
Interviewer:  Is that right?
505:  {X} {X} Uh we called it {X} You {X} just like that butter.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And uh most of that if you ain't. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Well what about, what do you call thick sour milk that you might keep around the kitchen to make things out of?
505:  Thick sour milk? Oh you can make gravy out of it if it's not too sour. If it's too sour then your {D: bread is still soggy.} {D: You can take it round} {D: take it right out of there.} And make uh make a bread you can take sour bread that's kind of milk kind of sour and if you use a good kind of {D: good biscuit making} put your {D: you season that right you got some good fluffy biscuits.}
Interviewer:  You ever heard people call that clabber?
505:  Yeah. That's when they {X} the cream from the top.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  and the clabber is at the bottom. {D: I reckon it's just something.} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
505:  Don't go talking about that {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} {C: laughter} #
505:  #2 {NW} {C: laughter} #
Interviewer:  Well have you ever heard of people making stuff like can you make cottage cheese out of that?
505:  Yes. Out of uh-huh. {D: You use uh} {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  It's some kind of {X} get in there and get them things. I really done forgotten everything about how we made it. But uh we made that in the home {X}
Interviewer:  {NW} Uh-huh. Well what about after you've just uh?
505:  You want some more? {X}
Interviewer:  No I'm okay. Uh what about after you've just uh milked a cow and you wanna get the impurities out, what do you have to do with that?
505:  Well just like if you milked your milk Uh-uh when you're well when you milk your milk. {X} In the in the beginning {X} keep your. {X} And on occasion {D: make your cows so happy.} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And you should have a pile that you use to start {D: if there was some kind of} {X} {D: that you thought was} {X} you know it's really light this time of year. Let go until you milk and uh sometime they may becomes a. {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  {NW} But you keep to that {X} to your cows. And then if you find milk.
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Well what you know some people will pour their milk through a kind of a fine wire #1 mesh to get #
505:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  the impurities out?
505:  #1 {D: Yeah you could say that.} #
Interviewer:  #2 {D: What do you call that?} #
505:  I know you using that to dairy I forget what it's called. {X} {X} But anyway they if any germ in there they're supposed to pour it through that thing in the kitchen. And uh if they're milking right they're gonna use it.
Interviewer:  But they they'll say that?
505:  They got a thing like some momma they. {D: They'll have had their strain and} {X} {D: strain their milk.} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about something that you might make out of make might make for dessert? Let's say out of, might make it in a deep dish with uh slices of fruit and it has a thick crust on top? Not exactly a pie but something like it?
505:  What you mean uh what you call them things? That uh I was talking with you about that the other day {D: the one that} {X} you mean made out of fruit? Uh.
Interviewer:  Has fruit in it, you know just like a pie will?
505:  Yeah you call them a. {NW} {X} {X} What do you call them thing? You slice it {D: real slices though.} Is this what you're talking about?
Interviewer:  It's like what?
505:  What you talking about like when you're out here making a #1 it's like. #
Interviewer:  #2 It's got sliced fruit in it #
505:  Uh-huh Well I mean when you go to eat it do you have to dip it out or do you slice it?
Interviewer:  Mm. You could uh most people most people at uh the times I've just you know dip it out with a spoon.
505:  Oh you must be talking about something like a peach pie or something aren't you?
Interviewer:  Peach #1 cobbler? #
505:  #2 A pie? # Yes or there might be a pie, something like that that's uh
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  that's what you're talking about here. {D: You put a crust on.}
Interviewer:  Yeah alright.
505:  Oh That's a blackberry pie, {D: a paying pie.} And got juice in there.
Interviewer:  A pie and a cobbler are the same thing?
505:  Mm-hmm {D: I don't know} {D: that crust just on top and here.} Yeah closer there yeah go on through there when you make a cobbler and when you make a pie you get uh {D: what is it at button is on top} and the juice and uh and then uh wherever fruit in there is in between there but you sweeten it and put your flavor and the butter in now and uh put the sugar in there and then you cause the top of it it's gonna get in there and brown and then you cut down through that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {X} #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # Oh wee.
505:  {D: You like blackberry pie?}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  {D: Yeah?} I like some {X} myself. I made a cute one the other day. {X} {X} {D: I said I know where I'm gonna do with mines.} {X}
Interviewer:  Before I left for college.
505:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Before I left home #1 {D: and I put some} #
505:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  some friends and I and we picked some huckleberries.
505:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 But yeah # you can make a pie, cobbler out of that.
505:  What kind of berry?
Interviewer:  Huckleberry.
505:  Huckleberry.
Interviewer:  Y'all have those around here?
505:  Uh-uh.
Interviewer:  They're kinda like a blackberry.
505:  {NW} {C: coughing} Are they large?
Interviewer:  They're smaller than blackberries. Takes more of 'em. Little round things. {NS}
505:  They're little old bitty things ain't they?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And they're black.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  I saw 'em at {X} but I didn't know what they were. {NW} {C: coughing} And {X} the backyard.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Uh and it was a kind of slope you know out back a house and then some of them there they {D: reached that.}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And they would go down and pick 'em and make pies but I didn't know what it was too little. But may I ask you this?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Now you saw a berry when they get ripe it's white
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  What kind of berry is that?
Interviewer:  I don't know that there is one.
505:  I have picked it. My cousin when I was three seemed like my mother good for a. {X} And he handed me his garden but I never seen them since and before neither. When they get when they get uh uh they but just about color they take and you got when they get ripe.
Interviewer:  Hmm.
505:  And do you know they want a green berry? I oh I I I I couldn't sit over here and name them but he had 'em in his garden. And there was a good bit.
Interviewer:  {D: I don't know what.} {X}
505:  #1 I don't know #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
505:  I ain't seen none of 'em before and since neither. It was at his house and he was a doctor and he had them berries. But she used to {X} and she was a colored woman and and she's dating. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  Just like {X} {D: their mother and cook for it.} {D: And he said my nightmare is this.}
Interviewer:  Well let me ask you, what about if somebody had a a real good appetite, you might say well he sure does like to put away his?
505:  His food.
Interviewer:  You ever hear of people say he likes to put away his vittles?
505:  Yeah I sure do. [NW} {C: laughter} You sure telling the truth everybody in here uses that yeah.
Interviewer:  {NW} {C: laughs}
505:  Yeah they sure do. {X}
Interviewer:  What about let's say if you had some gingerbread or something like that, what do you call that that sweet uh liquid that you might pour over it when you serve it? That's some kind of?
505:  Oh uh sometime you can make uh ambrosia.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
505:  #2 To # pour a little of that. And then sometimes you can make a syrup. Like when my mother used to cook us a. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {X} {D: She would go down to cook that and then she'd have a syrup.} That she would take uh she would take milk and eggs and maybe stir it up. And uh put sugar in it and flavoring you're talking about good that's good.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And I imagine that's just about what they use {D: with all that.} Yeah.
Interviewer:  What do you call food that you eat between meals? Say you're gonna have a what?
505:  Snack.
Interviewer:  A snack? Yeah. And uh {NS} what about if uh you have some people over to eat and everybody was just standing around the table you might tell them well why don't you just go ahead and?
505:  Serve yourself or I'm gonna serve you {X} style.
Interviewer:  Or if they were still standing up, you might just tell them well just go ahead and?
505:  And sit down and eat.
Interviewer:  Okay. Well what about if somebody offered you something that you didn't really want you might say to 'em what?
505:  I thank you. I would tell them thank you because I'll go ahead and have it. {D: Or if you ain't got to take it you ain't got that} just keep it if you don't want it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And sometime now if you ask {D: and just like you offered me something I have} I said well I already got this but uh if you'll give it to me I'll appreciate it.
Interviewer:  What do you call food that's been uh cooked and served a second time?
505:  Leftovers.
Interviewer:  {X} And you say the food's been?
505:  Reheated. Reheat.
Interviewer:  Or warmed over maybe?
505:  Yeah warmed. {X}
Interviewer:  What do you do when you put food in your mouth and uh?
505:  Chew?
Interviewer:  Chew it?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Did you tell me about uh anything like uh yeah you did, talking about cush?
505:  #1 Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer:  #2 Something like that? # The same thing some people call mush?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh okay. What about uh oh oh I don't know this stuff that that a lot of people here in the south like to eat, especially for breakfast? Uh made out of uh oh and you know it's served with sausage and eggs and it's made out of ground corn? You know it's boiled? #1 {D: About white colored?} #
505:  #2 {NW} # Uh uh it uh Says it was made out of corn?
Interviewer:  Yes ma'am. White colored, some people put butter on it and.
505:  And it's not hominy, is it?
Interviewer:  Hominy, well that's kind of whole uh.
505:  Whole grain.
Interviewer:  Yeah. This is ground up real fine you know like that.
505:  I don't know it.
Interviewer:  Like grits?
505:  Unless, I know we got a {D: peas}, and they got grits.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  They got grits, now grits is uh they tell me another {X} but I don't know what it is I got a uh.
Interviewer:  It's uh.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Uh.
505:  Then there are l-lots of people like that but I I used to I used to have to eat 'em when I was in the hospital.
Interviewer:  Is that right?
505:  But uh {D: I never did.} {X}
Interviewer:  Well what about uh along with your meat or a meal you might have potatoes or what else would be good with meat?
505:  Oh yes certainly there's some kind of. {X} And be careful called now {D: bring us tea.} Something like that would be good. Now if you want a really good {X} {D: you'd get you some uh} cook that ham just on that pocket over that grease in there good cooked good in it and pour the most of the grease outta there and pour you a little water in there and make that brown gravy you know. {D: And then stir in them eggs like that.}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And get you some good kitchen syrup you got a little. {X}
Interviewer:  What's something else that you might pour gravy over?
505:  Fried chicken.
Interviewer:  Chicken or?
505:  {X}
Interviewer:  Or what else, what kind of grain? You know it's white stuff and grains or Uncle Ben's uh? {X}
505:  I still junk like that I don't I don't hardly eat. {X} {D: I have wasted for people.}
Interviewer:  Do you like rice?
505:  Mm-hmm. {X} Now that's one {D:thing} I I used to love.
Interviewer:  What about if I had a belt that was made out of cow hide, it was pure cow hide and nothing else? I might tell somebody now this isn't artificial cow hide, it's?
505:  Real hide.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. Or it's it's um {C: background noise} it's you know I might say it's genu-?
505:  Genuine leather?
Interviewer:  {NS} This is something else that you might uh put on your biscuits besides syrup you know made out of uh different kinds of fruit, you can spread it on something like that, what?
505:  {D: Simple syrup, wouldn't the type?}
Interviewer:  Syrup or this isn't exactly, well it might, it's kind of like preserves, but it's?
505:  Jell-o.
Interviewer:  Or.
505:  {X} #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
505:  {D: I have taken grapes on there like that}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  Wednesday night. I mixed Jell-o and. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {X} I don't care for him.
Interviewer:  {NW} What about if uh if uh I don't know, if you were trying to tell me where somebody lived you might, might you might say well he doesn't live here, close by, he lives?
505:  Further down the road.
Interviewer:  Or you might in telling somebody how to do something you might say well don't do it that way, do it?
505:  This way.
Interviewer:  And what about uh if you have a lot of fruit trees say a lot of peach trees together you'd say you have a what?
505:  I have 'em uh uh in a cluster's too close together. If you got 'em running at ends at least from one to the other but they shouldn't be so close they touch each other they should have a distance.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of people calling that an orchard?
505:  Mm-hmm. Now my son, say my grandmother used to help feed him.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And he was so close to getting him to {X} {D: you're getting trees croaching in} {D: most too close together like uh pencils.}
Interviewer:  {X}
505:  {D: And she'd come} {D: and when she was sitting in the house he was small.} {D: And she didn't give him distance growing up from under that.} {X} {X} {X} {D: Daddy come near home and told us that most of this tree} {D: has been uh} {X} {D: by the others so bad I'm gonna cut it down she said no.} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
505:  And the yard in the back yard front yard. {X} {D: It's full.} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  I got me a. {X}
Interviewer:  What about, I'd like to say something like uh when I was a boy, my father was poor. But next door was a boy?
505:  Rich.
Interviewer:  What what about some of the different types of fruits you have growing around here?
505:  All we have are apples. Peaches. And uh plums. Some of 'em have a {D: well you mean peach trees have been built then are sun too they just pass one and they die.} And the figs and uh pears. And uh we raise them so there are {D:tame Greek around the church barrel.} {X}
Interviewer:  Hmm.
505:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  #1 Did you ever hear #
505:  #2 And. #
Interviewer:  of what kind of fruit tree it was that George Washington was supposed to have chopped down?
505:  Yes sir the cherry tree right there.
Interviewer:  What do you call it, the hard part the inside part of the cherry?
505:  The part of {D:a cherry hurts?}
Interviewer:  That, that hard thing that you might break a tooth on #1 if you bit down on? #
505:  #2 Mm-mm. # Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about the inside of a peach, that's it?
505:  That's the core.
Interviewer:  That's what?
505:  That's a core.
Interviewer:  Oh yeah. You know, there there's some kind of peaches that uh you know {NW} the fruit is real tight against the?
505:  Mm-hmm that's the. {X}
Interviewer:  And the other type is?
505:  {X} That's freestone.
Interviewer:  {NW} {NS} When what, and after you eat an apple, what's that part that's left?
505:  Core. That's why you, that's why it's like the seeds in there you can plant that core. And uh sometime the tree will come up and then most time you just plant that whole apple here and that apple'd rot away and we'd come back and we'd, if that. {X}
Interviewer:  Well let me ask you, have you ever heard of uh uh cutting up some apples or peaches and letting parts dry?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Is there anything special you'd call that?
505:  Mm-hmm dried peaches.
Interviewer:  Just dried peach?
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Okay.
505:  We used to dry apples. Really. When we were little children we lived out {X} this way.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  We all {D: would stand in a big orchard.} Love we'd get them apples and we'd peel 'em and just slice 'em kind of thin
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  We'd get up on the shed and spread some down on there and put 'em on that tin in that and them apples dried just like it by myself
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  You can dry peaches like that. Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about a kind of nut, I, it, I don't imagine it grows around here, but you see it around Christmastime a lot you know? They're kind of long and gray colored?
505:  Uh look kind uh kind of clean and kind of blunt at the end?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  That's a peanut isn't it?
Interviewer:  What?
505:  {D: Prune nut isn't it?}
Interviewer:  I was, I don't know, is that the same thing as almonds? Something like that?
505:  Almonds is that's kinda kinda round. {X}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Okay what about that fruit that uh you know a lot of it grows in Florida? And uh
505:  {X} Oranges and
Interviewer:  {D: Yeah.}
505:  they tell me I I I don't know I had a friend that went there a neighbor went. {X} He went there and then they were breaking that sugarcane.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And he said uh he's sitting there talking and he said uh {X} He said you oughta been down there in Florida to see them wild snakes. I said what you say? {NW} He said you would have been down there and just see them rattlesnake said God we {D: the other day they had uh} {X} sugarcane did right. {D: They had lost some of 'em.} {X} {X} {D: Deers and things different kind of animal.} {X} {D: To the woods I don't know.} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah?
505:  And he {X} and the leaves and flowers see now then they came with some thickness. Just transfer from one place to another.
Interviewer:  Let me ask you about uh this uh this little red colored root vegetable that tastes I don't - about that size, you know tastes kind of hot and peppery?
505:  {X} Yeah I guess some of 'em garden that. {X} {D: But when.} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah?
505:  Uh-huh. {X}
Interviewer:  Well what about these things that'll make your eyes water if you try to slice 'em?
505:  Oh uh {NW} I don't get. {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  What about, what about the ones that uh you know, they're small and they have a long stalk?
505:  You talking about uh shallots.
Interviewer:  What?
505:  You're talking about shallots are you?
Interviewer:  Is that what you call 'em?
505:  {D: Yes ma'am.} My grandmother used to have a bed {D: oh half-wide as my bed and longer.} {X} {X} I don't like I like it but it don't like me. {D: I was standing} {X} {D: you remember you'd buy me some of the.} {X} And cook me some ham. {X} When I come back I got that buttermilk in that big ol' crock. {X} {D: It's real.} {D: I used to be able could eat it.} {D: I think I've} {X} and uh I got that {X} shallots you hear me? {X} That's so good. Fried there good you know what I got that ham and those shallots and then mix together and I bet you in a half hour time. {X} {D: In my life.}
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  {D: Before I run my horse} {X} {D: and then you know} {D: suddenly tell you that I'm in.} {X} {D: We had a horse} {D: and they was.} {X} Uh uh everyb- {D: e-everybody sitting in there and then their racetrack ain't no farther no} and that's what I used to drive old track.
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  And uh they told me {X} {X} {X} {X} {D: the man's telephone was of his soul} {D: I knew we didn't call him Doctor} {X} {X} and the doctor begin that.
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  {D: And uh} my {D: now my beauty} {D: high my} {NW} my grandmother had these old high beams you know that {D: you heard 'em talking about me haven't you?} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
505:  {D: And she had} {D: you didn't you had to get them.} {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  {NW} {NW} You have not {D: I'm not I'm not} {D: baby I'm} telling the truth. Yeah. Yeah. Most time now she most time she {D: just simple building when she put a pit on that railing you know.} {D: And but now she brought the egg on.} {D: Probably told Mom we'd use it.} {X}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  {D: You'd get all the basics.} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And uh doctor got that. {D: He says she's a sick child} {D: at the moment he said say I don't know what to say.} {D: He got that rubber running through my nose.}
Interviewer:  {NW}
505:  {X} {D: Round my nose and.} Mostly didn't understand our {X}
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  And then put 'em there. {D: And said let me.} {D: She just wanted to try this} {D: said just went in from one} {X} and just {X} {D: in between the beds really.} {D: They've got big} {D: houses big black sour houses on there} {X} {D: behind it all.}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {X} And I got to throw that stuff outta me and went from one bed to the other he said she had a. {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah?
505:  Obviously your {X} {X} she'll be alright. And I was just. {X} {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {D: He said his money has had gold through my sister.} {X} He was sitting there with me about two hours. {D: And I know everything} {X} And when I come to myself I said. {X} {D: And then he said.} {X} {D: He got up and got some stuff and it's just like.} {D: milk when you pitch it in water.} {D: Now he puts his normal water} {X} {D: slipped 'em in.} In a few minutes them guys well that guy. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  It's just like a stinging {D: it felt hot that I burned it just like} {X} {D: that's where you fit it.}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  {X} {D: I had done sweated some.} After then I had {D: fever and I had a weird idea.} {D: And I had a fever} {D: you know the fever would take me right here.} {D: I had done.} {X} {X} {D: He said boy} {X} another {X} {D: and my hair you just.} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  {D: And I said we had been waiting about a half hour.}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
505:  {D: He told mother} {D: check the junk drawer.} {X} {X} {D: From the changing the bed but} {D: part of you is.} {X} {NW} {X}
Interviewer:  So you were kept?
505:  {D: No I didn't think one bit of it that's what she wants} {D: I said Mama you know you came to give me the day you want me?} {D: She has a kid she don't know about.} {X} She's been eating more and said her {X} and I said more I did. {D: I was peacefully} {X} {D: but I didn't need too much to me I had never} {X} much of me. {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah. Okay and what about uh some of the vegetables you might put in a vegetable soup?
505:  Oh yeah you get your butter beans if you like okra in there okra is good in there if you like it in there and you can put peas in your collards and tomatoes I got some made. {X} I had made a boy a pea soup the other day
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  I I {X} But just it's really good you put your tomato peel your tomatoes and chop 'em all up in there and chop all that up in there good. {X}
Interviewer:  What about if you left like an apple around in the sun it just gonna dry up and be {X} what? #1 Does it dry or? #
505:  #2 Squish. # You can just squish
Interviewer:  And shrivel up?
505:  Mm-hmm. Just squish it up.
Interviewer:  What about uh a leafy vegetable that people grow around here a lot?
505:  Cabbage? {D: What?} The stalk is growing out on the {D: street and then the} {D: curves and the leaves} {X} {D: back up again.} {D: And then they would fall and saw here again.} I got some in my garden now that. {X} #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # What about if you were sending somebody to the store to buy you some lettuce? You'd tell them to do what? You'd say go get me?
505:  Bring me a head of lettuce.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And then. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about if man had a s- let's say about seven boys and seven girls. Yeah I was referring to the to the number of children he had and you say he had a whole?
505:  {X} I'd say he had a whole lots of 'em.
Interviewer:  #1 A-huh. #
505:  #2 {NW} # {NS} Yeah. {D: He had a whole crew of 'em} {X} #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
505:  Fourteen is just about a crew.
Interviewer:  Yeah. Do you know other people say uh he had a whole passel of children?
505:  Yeah. Well he just about could have a passel because there's. {X} But I'd {D: I'd tell him to} {D: move them here to.} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm. Mm-hmm. Talking about vegetables, {NS} {C: rooster clucking} corn, what do you call the things on the outside of the corn that you have to #1 strip off? #
505:  #2 Sh-sh- shuck. #
Interviewer:  {D: That's the shuck?}
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  And the stuff that grows out of the top?
505:  Tassel.
Interviewer:  And what about the stuff that you have to brush off of the? That's the silk. That's the silk, hmm. What about these things that, you know, you said people uh like to get 'em around Halloween is good #1 for uh? #
505:  #2 Pumpkins. #
Interviewer:  Oh yeah.
505:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about some different kinds of melons?
505:  Oh yes you can have uh you have a grape melon and then the yellow melon and then you have the red melon and then they have the what you call that little one melons they make pickle out of. {X} Cause yeah that's all I feel comfortable {X} {X} We didn't shake them and make up. {D: Because uh.} {X} {X} It looked just like a walnut.
Interviewer:  Called what?
505:  {X}
Interviewer:  Oh yeah yeah.
505:  Uh-huh. And it looks just like a watermelon so. {X} {X} {D: He said that uh} {X} {X} {D: right here annoying.} {D: Then you know what I'll sit at your feet.} I. {NW} {C: laughter} {D: I done for you} {D: wanted to have fun} {D: I went back in the house and got this suit.} He said. {X} He said I was being {X} I said yes it is. You're tough to ignore. Robert. {D: Who's there I wanna tell you I} {X} I said honey. He said I can't said he doesn't take no {X} {NW} {D: no one say} {D: no boy I say} {X} I only got {X} {D: says she poured it out} {X} {D: my mom said she know to use now.}
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  But we {X} see you become a {D: volunteer in the field.}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
505:  {D: And I didn't know if it was out there or not} {D: as I walk around the} {X} I said what is this? And he wouldn't tell me and he laughed at me. I said is this what we playing? He laughed he said oh that's in the morning said there's more back up here said them things are {D: all the way up here} {D: and now you don't know the difference.} {X}
Interviewer:  Yeah.
505:  {X} You shouldn't do me like that. {X} {D: Got him to wear a big} {X} {D: and he said nah you gonna get you're getting right now.} {D: Yeah we used to raise} {X}
Interviewer:  What do you call these things I don't, I hadn't seen any since I've been in Tennessee but sometimes they grow up in people's yards, they have uh kind of a slender stalk, and then the top kind of spreads out? Looks kind of like an open umbrella about, some of 'em about this tall you know? {NS} Some people eat 'em, for dinner chop 'em up slice 'em up?
505:  Let's see what could that be. S- I don't know maybe I haven't been uh I haven't seen that many.
Interviewer:  Mushrooms?
505:  Well I don't know. Now them mushrooms over here they're uh they're not big go out in the woods somewhere there be big mushrooms out there but we are and maybe I just called 'em toadstools. {D: You know I hear that people eat them.} But uh, they don't grow around here but uh a farm was in {X} like they come around {X} because they didn't use to eat 'em because it grows out big large and they {D: you know they never sent it but I} I have never eaten it.
Interviewer:  Oh I have and I like 'em.
505:  Huh?
Interviewer:  I like 'em.
505:  Well that's what I'm saying you {D: see the thing is that your mama fix you you never} {D: fix in your life you don't know what you eat.}
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  Let's just say you haven't never eaten any of those I haven't.
Interviewer:  Is that right?
505:  A boy came here from over {X} and uh I know their their mayor, there you know and he's talking {X} {D: finally he gave the talk just like you and I talking now.} And he said to me one day {X} I said you have to tell me plain I don't know. You need a hillbilly to read your mouth just looking at you.
Interviewer:  Hmm.
505:  He said did {B} and showed me how to and I said what'd you do with it? {NW} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  And he would tell us about different things they would eat over there. But we didn't know what it was. Look over here and seen it and he said oh you could take a {X} I don't know that. {D: I'm gonna tell you the truth I really} {X} {X} {C: a rooster crows in the background} and I didn't know what he was talking about. {D: He said it} {X}
Interviewer:  Mm.
505:  And I said sure do. {NW} {X}
Interviewer:  Say what?
505:  {X} {C: a rooster crows in the background}
Interviewer:  Oh. {C: rooster crows in the background} {D: And so he} {X} I said I don't know what you're talking about. {X} {D: But I said you're talking about a turkey.} {D: But he didn't call it a turkey.}{C: a rooster crows in the background} Hmm. {C: rooster crows in the background}
505:  {NS} {C: coughing} At least tell me how you make that {D: good soup out of the} {X} Now if you take a lot of cumin {D: you get that hide off.}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
505:  {D: Scrape it.} {NS} {C: rooster crowing}