543: #1 Yes sir yes sir # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. # 543: sure that's right. Interviewer: And you said um you said just a second ago there that they had wooden handles #1 handles and? # 543: #2 Yes # sir they had wooden handles that's right. {D: Just the knife and a} little ol' piece of wooden wood on each side of 'em handles on 'em. Interviewer: And uh said they had keys? 543: {D: Yes sir they had keys too they had hole that} metal had holes in it. And put some little #1 keys # Auxiliary: #2 Michael. # 543: through it and uh #1 grind it down. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 543: #1 And all them had wood on 'em han- hand # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # 543: {D: knives.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And then the really sharp knives what would they be called uh? 543: Butcher knives Interviewer: Uh-huh. And 543: {NW} Interviewer: uh later on when you uh got water in the house running water uh what did you what do you call the things you turn off and on with? 543: Faucets. Interviewer: #1 Uh when you first # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: first got it? 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: And uh and uh if you have the same kind of thing on a barrel what do you call that? Uh. 543: Well that's a faucet. Faucet too. Same thing in a barrel #1 faucet too you know. # Interviewer: #2 Now did you have if # somebody has one out in the yard they can hook a hose on while they are gardening. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: #1 Is that uh? # 543: #2 Yes sir that's the # that's about the same #1 thing you know. Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. Right. # 543: That same #1 thing. {X} # Interviewer: #2 Ever hear anybody # call uh those uh spigots? Or are they all #1 faucets? # 543: #2 Well I'll # tell you we would {D: uh just buy the ol''} faucets you know. {D: Yes sir come turn the faucet on out there.} Hydrant. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And uh in in the house uh without running water it must've been a chore to do the dishes uh 543: #1 Oh yeah # Interviewer: #2 can you tell me # about that uh? 543: Well I'll tell you yes sir. Uh you did have to bring water in in in buckets or something another. Uh fruit jars or {C: laughing} something another. Jugs or something like that you know and bring in there you know. To put in the dish pan. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: Yes sir. {D: Get the} #1 dish # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: pan in there. We'd well you know a big pan. And put the dishes in there then and put the water in the kettle and {X} tea kettle and uh heat it you know and pour it in there and then get some cool water and cool it off to what you you know could put your hand in and wash 'em. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Mm. # 543: Get you a rag you know and wash them dishes you know {D: out and then have 'em uh} rag there to dry 'em off. #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # did you put 'em through a second water then or #1 {X} Too too hard? # 543: #2 No sir. No sir. No sir. Just just # just just that's right. Just one water mostly. Interviewer: How about clothes uh after they did you have uh a second water? 543: Yes sir yes sir they have two two buckets or two tubs {D: and once a day we had to} put 'em in #1 you know that's right. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: Yes sir. {D: Wash 'em out in the shed water you know then and put 'em over there in the rain shelter.} Interviewer: #1 I see. # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: And uh for uh what did you use for towels? Uh mostly uh? 543: Well we would use uh after we went well we didn't use {D: the fertilizer} but I remember us {C: laughing} using fertilizer sacks after we went to getting fertilize. But back then we didn't have none and so just uh {NS} {D: for} sometime we could find some uh uh cloth or uh just a white cloth there you know that they has in the store you know. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 And it's # just some kind of ol' thick cloth you know. {X} And then my mother would get it cut up you know for towel just in a small #1 piece. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # And the uh what did you use on your body would that be these fertilizer sacks? 543: Man yes sir. #1 Yes sir after # Interviewer: #2 Is that right? # 543: went to getting them there fertilizer sacks. That's right yes sir. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 Mother would # make 'em there shirts out of them there fertilizer sacks #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: And and would would she make shirts uh I thought would she make towels or uh #1 or? # 543: #2 Well after # {D: they} after went to getting that you know made shirts and uh Interviewer: #1 Mm. # 543: #2 Yeah you # takes uh well back there then {D: well my man well} she'd take that there ol' uh stuff you know and I forget the name of that {D: cloth. And they said ducking.} But uh {D: domestic.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: They call it {D: domestic. Yeah that's some} thick cloth you know. My mother made eh um clothes out of that you know underclothes out of that you know. And then maybe some of it you'd take it you know and uh maybe some kind of a dye something another. {D: Cannot seem to} get out. And uh make us some pretty yellow shades out of clay. Interviewer: Is that right? 543: Right. Yes sir. Interviewer: #1 Out of clay. # 543: #2 That's # dye. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 543: #2 {X} # keep it from being so white you know and all. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # There would be something in the clay that would #1 uh? # 543: #2 Oh yeah # clay get in there good you know you can get out {D: there and uh just} in them some of them clay {D: gulleys that cut} what kind of color clay you want you know and weigh it you know. and put that cloth in there you {D: know and swaddle it around.} {D: and the- ta- and} she'd sorta put a little salt on it uh keep it in there and that I mean it'll stay soft. Interviewer: It would? 543: Yes sir it #1 it wouldn't wash # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: out. #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 Um # Somebody uh told me that that they dyed cloth with walnut uh. 543: Oh yeah man she'd take oh man yes sir. She took that and sh- and she took oak bark. and trimmed it and make make dye out of it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: I mean and them walnuts man yes sir they just just different colors #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 It # would be the um see the #1 the outside is green? # 543: #2 Outside outside. # Right right yes sir yes sir. Interviewer: Uh what do you what do you call that uh? 543: Hull the walnut hull the. Interviewer: And uh is that a green or would it be a brown? 543: {D: No here it'd} be brown. {D: That uh} you know. course the outside would look green on the outside but in that hull you know why it's brown. I mean that get on your finger you can't hardly #1 get it off. Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # #1 I see. # 543: #2 Brown is # you know on the inside {D: of it.} Interviewer: And uh she dyed clothes with that? 543: Yes sir. #1 Yes # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: sir sure that's right. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: You know after them walnuts get in a certain stage it well it's it's pretty well brown all all the way through you know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: {X} They ripe then you know. Interviewer: And uh if she took a little piece of cloth to the store and uh to show what kind of she wanted it for a dress what would she call that uh? 543: A pattern. #1 They would take a # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 543: pattern to you know to see what kind uh you know they would want like that #1 then. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # And if uh if it would be just not uh so much a pattern as just a little piece like #1 that? # 543: #2 Oh yeah # just a little ol' cloth you know. {X} Interviewer: #1 Ever call that a? # 543: #2 Sample. # Interviewer: #1 Sample. {X} # 543: #2 Sample. Something like that. Yes sir. # Interviewer: So a sample would be small and a pattern would be? 543: Yes sir lar- #1 lar- that's right. Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: #1 And uh # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: uh what would she wear outside the over her dress to keep it clean uh? 543: Apron. {C: laughing} #1 Apron. # Interviewer: #2 Uh did # it come up? 543: {X} Oh yes sir yes sir that's right. They'd wear them aprons {D: on.} Interviewer: #1 Up to their shoulders? # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Yes sir. #1 Sure. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: That's right. Interviewer: And uh other things that women would would uh use uh what if your mother went to town uh what would she keep her coins in? Uh. 543: Oh {C: laughing} {D: ol' bag or sack} or something like #1 that. A little ol' # Interviewer: #2 Is that right? # 543: sack. Uh yes sir homemade sack or something #1 another yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Um and that # would it be just the same now as a 543: {D: Pi-} uh purse #1 or pocket b- # Interviewer: #2 Sure. # 543: billfold #1 or something there you know like that uh. # Interviewer: #2 And it would be uh # sturdy enough you wouldn't loose the coins out? 543: Oh you see they they they'd know how to you know fold it down over the top and put um a drawstring in it. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: That's right. Yeah put um a drawstring in it. They they'd fold it o- over the top and and and sew it down around there and and and run that string through around there you know and they'd pull it too you know. And it I mean it'd stay in there you know. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 Maybe # tie it there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: #1 Yes sir it {X} # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: Did she uh have anything she'd wear around her #1 wrists or around the neck? # 543: #2 Well some of 'em had a # Interviewer: {X} 543: bracelets you know. Bracelets on the arm you know and then some beads. Interviewer: Did uh anybody did you ever hear anybody say talk about a pair of beads? 543: Pair of beads yes sir. Interviewer: #1 What is {X} # 543: #2 That's just one # string of beads you know. {X} You got on a pair of bead. {D: Just} call 'em a pair {D: but they just} Interviewer: #1 beads. # 543: #2 Just one # Interviewer: #1 one s- # 543: #2 One # one string #1 of bead. You # Interviewer: #2 string. # 543: got on a pair of #1 beads. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 That'd mean the same # thing as a pair of {D: mules} huh? 543: {NW} Yes right right yes sir. {NW} Interviewer: If um somebody uh if a woman liked to oh spend a lot of time in front of the mirror especially a young girl and she'd uh do something with her hair and you know all the rest. What would you des- how would you describe that? 543: #1 What? # Interviewer: #2 Say she # sure likes to? 543: {X} Comb her hair. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 543: #2 Yes sir. # {D: We'd uh} combing her hair fixing her hair you #1 know. Fixing it. # Interviewer: #2 Fixing it? # Would you ever call that uh primp? #1 Uh. # 543: #2 Primping. # Primping of course {D: that's that's} #1 that's what # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: they {C: laughing} mostly doing there. #1 They're # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: primping their hair #1 you know too uh. # Interviewer: #2 Uh would you ever # say that about a man? {D: Won't you uh} would you ever say that about a man? 543: Well uh no when back there then {D: when you know and all so he'd} just say combing his hair. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: Yes sir cause he he wouldn't do much primping. He'd have it cut. Interviewer: I see. 543: #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 543: Yes #1 sir. # Interviewer: #2 And # uh the thing that you'd use to keep the rain off when you're go walking? 543: He'd call it a umbrella. {NW} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And keep the sun off what uh #1 uh what would you use? # 543: #2 A hat. # Interviewer: #1 # 543: #2 # Interviewer: Well 543: #1 Uh. # Interviewer: #2 you # carry some ladies used to carry things to keep the sun off. 543: Oh yes sir. Uh we we call 'em #1 umbrellas. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # #1 And para- # 543: #2 Parasol # that's that's what they call 'em parasols now. Interviewer: Oh I see this #1 parasol for {X} later I see. # 543: #2 Parasol is the umbrella. Parasol. Yes # sir yes sir #1 that's right. # Interviewer: #2 Now would you # call them uh umbrellas? 543: #1 Umbrella we # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: called them umbrellas #1 back there then you know. Yes and they c- uh # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. # 543: got a style they call 'em #1 parasol. # Interviewer: #2 I # #1 see more fancy. # 543: #2 Oh # sure yes #1 sir yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: Uh yes sir. Interviewer: And uh a uh the things that you uh now hold babies' diapers together with? You #1 pin 'em? # 543: #2 Safety # pins. Interviewer: And uh did you ever in school uh oh let me show you this {NS} what did in school what did you use to write with um? Miss {B} gave me this #1 uh. Uh-huh. {X} # 543: #2 Good grace. {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {X} # 543: #2 That's # {D: my ink pen.} Interviewer: {X} 543: Called it a fountain pen. {NW} Yes #1 sir. # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # 543: Fountain pen good {D: grace.} {NS} Interviewer: Hello? No you wanted to dial uh zero or three. {NS} 543: Oh man that's that ink #1 pen. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: Yeah man. {D: that seem like way back yonder would be.} Interviewer: That's uh seen some use too I can tell. 543: Sure sure sure #1 and it'll # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # 543: still write you know. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 543: {X} Interviewer: Uh-huh. 543: Dip it in there and {D: take.} #1 Well I see an ink pen. # Interviewer: #2 I see uh explain # how they used to use that in #1 school. # 543: #2 Would she # call that a ink pen? Interviewer: Yeah. 543: #1 Yeah uh that's right that's right yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Uh uh-huh. # 543: {D: And and we we want to} call these here fountain #1 pens you see. That's right. Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Uh and uh-huh. # Did you use those when you were in school #1 or? No. # 543: #2 Not # too much no sir. No sir we just used more pencils #1 of course. I'll # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: tell you what now uh back there then they'd use them at home writing letters to people you know and all but #1 we didn't use 'em # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # 543: in school. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: Now of course some of 'em might have did. Interviewer: Um uh do you happen to remember how you mentioned writing letters how how did they uh how did they write what did they write on the envelope? Uh did they have a did you use the same kind of thing that you do now? 543: Oh well yes sir yes sir that's right. Sure. You know they back you know put their name on there and you know and where it all to go you know. #1 and all. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Didn't have any zip codes then but uh? 543: No sir. #1 No sir # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: there no no zip #1 codes. # Interviewer: #2 Did you have # have did you have to have a whole {NW} would you use your box number and uh uh did you have a route number or box 543: #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 number? # 543: #1 Yes sir yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 543: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 543: {D: Yes sir after uh} Interviewer: And you you'd call that {X} say you sit down and you what? 543: #1 Address # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: Address the address #1 the envelope you know. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 And # uh the that information there would be called uh so you address the envelope then that that information would be called? Somebody your mother might say now don't forget to put on the? 543: Envelope? Addre- Interviewer: #1 Uh. # 543: #2 Uh. # Interviewer: I see. Or she? 543: Address. Interviewer: You'd use the same word that you'd use use today right? 543: Well yes sir yes sir. #1 Yes # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # 543: sir yes sir. Sure sure that's right yes sir. Interviewer: Okay. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: And now talk about men's clothes for a minute uh how about uh different parts to um say you go to the store you buy uh a new uh a whole new outfit what would you call #1 that? # 543: #2 Suits. # Interviewer: #1 # 543: #2 # Interviewer: Uh-huh. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: And what would that what parts would you have? 543: Well uh if you want just uh a suit of #1 clothes? # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: Yes sir. You'd have a coat and a pair of pants with a with a s- suit. Interviewer: Would you have anything under the coat? 543: Uh a vest. Interviewer: {X} 543: #1 Called it a vest. A # Interviewer: #2 {X} vest. # 543: vest yes sir. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 Uh with # no sleeves {D: in it loop.} Come together with #1 buttons. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: Yes sir the pockets #1 on it. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: Yes sir we call that a vest. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: That'd go where the most of the people back there then you know and all. {D: They they that'll} took that to make that suit. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: Course you can find suits now you know that no don't have it. Interviewer: Uh I I think vests are coming back. #1 Uh I noticed # 543: #2 Well maybe that's. # Interviewer: uh noticed these young young people #1 walking around with uh. # 543: #2 I know several of 'em. # Yes. Interviewer: {NW} 543: {D: Yes sir like that old.} {NW} #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # How would you keep your pants up? How did you? 543: Well uh well they'd get us a belt. Uh most of the time back there then they'd use these suspenders you know #1 to hold 'em up. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: But you know then some of 'em would have these belts in 'em you know around their waists #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: {D: They} put through in there. Interviewer: And uh what did you wear to work? Uh what would you use at work uh 543: Well you mostly wear old overalls Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 to # work in. Them come plumb on up you know that bib on 'em. #1 you know. Yes sir them gallus # Interviewer: #2 Oh you have a bib on 'em? {X} # 543: come over here and fasten on #1 there. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 543: I li- like 'em. {NW} Interviewer: Uh did you did you ever have anything that you'd call uh jeans? 543: Yes sir. Blue jeans they call 'em you know back there then #1 you know cause # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 543: just waist pants you know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: {D: They're kind of} made out of the uh cloth what this overall cloth made out of #1 you know. Ducking. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Uh so it'd be the overalls would be with the bib and the jeans would #1 {X} # 543: #2 be be yes sir pants yes sir this # {D: chai-} uh jean blue jeans #1 they call 'em. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # And if somebody uh would fill up his uh coat so the pockets would go like this what would you say well look at his pockets? 543: Sticking out or puffed out sticking #1 out you know. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: Yes look at his pockets sticking out Interviewer: #1 there on his # 543: #2 Uh # Interviewer: #1 coat. {X} # 543: #2 Say uh what's # Interviewer: what's making your pockets bulge? Have you used that word? Uh what's making your pockets bulge so? 543: Bulge out. Interviewer: #1 Bulge out? # 543: #2 Yes # sir what's making your #1 pocket bulge out? # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # And when would you uh when your mother stopped making clothes and you started to uh buy 'em at the store. If you buy a new oh say a new shirt and first time you would wash it why uh it wouldn't fit anymore. 543: No sir. #1 It's uh it's # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: done drawed up. Interviewer: #1 Is that uh. # 543: #2 Yes sir # done {C: laughing} drawed up. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: Did you ever use a word like uh shrink? #1 Uh. # 543: #2 Shrunk # up. It's #1 done shrunk up to where it won't fit. # Interviewer: #2 {X} Uh-huh. {NW} # {NW} 543: Too little. Interviewer: I bet that happened. 543: #1 Oh lots of times yes sir them shrunk up. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. Lots of times. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. # 543: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 543: #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Um # 543: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # are you getting I can't believe it's this time #1 already. # 543: #2 Man # how did that pass off thataway? Interviewer: Uh I was going to at one oh clock I actually I wanted to ask ask you if you wanted a #1 sandwich. # 543: #2 No no # {D: no no no I'm making} fine. No sir. Thank you. #1 Thank you. If # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: you'd make it. Interviewer: I hear I really can't believe it's #1 uh # 543: #2 Well. # Interviewer: it's so late. 543: #1 I see # Interviewer: #2 I expected to # stop at one oh clock and uh ask you if you wanted a sandwich. #1 I forgot to. # 543: #2 {X} No sir # thank you thank you. {D: We've make it} #1 no sir. {D: I said.} # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. Well # you got a few minutes yet. Uh would you like to did you think of anything that uh that we haven't covered uh um that you'd like to to tell me about? #1 Anything {X} there that uh. # 543: #2 Oh well. # {D: No and to} and and and I just um thought about {D: mentioning by then} building them houses you know and all. We'd get out there and cut them logs you know and and and trim 'em you know. Square 'em up you know and then cut notches in 'em that fit. And in some places we would cut you know them trees about eight or ten inches through them poplars some poplar. I've seen a lot of 'em. And they split 'em half open And stand 'em up edgeway. Take that ol' auger {X} and then got a just got a stick. Just stick it through there and that's what we'd bore holes in. Man you know it'd take a time to bore a hole through something {C: laughing} #1 like that. And then put # Interviewer: #2 Yeah I I uh # 543: {D: dry I drum a} peg to stick down in there you know. I mean them logs would stay there. Interviewer: Hmm. 543: #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Uh # uh you mentioned that would that be that one other you mentioned that before how you used to make your own augers. 543: #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Uh # do I understand you made 'em out of a hard wood? 543: #1 Well uh. # Interviewer: #2 Or {X} or what uh? # 543: Uh now now that's that's what w- we'd we'd {X} I mean uh we'd might have to buy one of them. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: {X} It's steel. Interviewer: Do you uh they you you bought the #1 auger? {X} I see. # 543: #2 Yes sir. We'd buy the auger you know. It'd # be probably oh different sizes about about you know size of that or something another. And then it have a hole in it up there. {D: Just} stick a stick through it and that's the way we'd go around with it #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: #1 That's that's the way we'd do. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: We didn't have that {X} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 543: neither no. {NW} Interviewer: #1 I see. And uh # 543: #2 Electric drill or nothing. # Interviewer: So in order to to join two two planks you you'd uh draw uh you drill those wholes and then just put a #1 a peg in it. # 543: #2 Peg # in it yes sir. #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 It would # really hold 'em? 543: {D: Trim.} Oh yes sir. They'd #1 stay there. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: #1 That's right yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Mm-hmm. 543: And too I wanna {C: coughing} mention about that uh you know I couldn't think just {D: the other thing} about you know about how people you know would call one another you know and talk you know we'd talk to #1 one another and everything. # Interviewer: #2 Yes I'd # I'd like to uh #1 {X} # 543: #2 Man it's # funny I laugh about it you know {C: laughing} back in that there time. Course that's all I ever know you know and all you know how people you know I said what the white people that you know said about us if we if they liked us you know and uh how we'd say about them if we #1 liked them and then all you # Interviewer: #2 Right. Right. # 543: know what we'd call 'em you know {C: laughing} and all. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: And so if I {C: laughing} said we did call us you know niggers of course we'd {D: kid around when we could. We'd} call them all rednecks or #1 something another. Pecker wood # Interviewer: #2 Redneck. # 543: or something. If you didn't like one of 'em. #1 But if you liked # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: one of them. Here's here's the funny part about it was that uh {NS} we would say mister and yes sir and no sir to 'em. Mister so and so you know {D: and that was all then.} But the way they would say it to us {NW} man {C: laughing} is uncle or auntie. {NW} Interviewer: Is that right? 543: That's right. #1 yes sir. Uncle and aunt. Yeah the that's the # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. They they showed respect {X} # 543: that's the way they would show their respect you know. #1 Of course and # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: sorta always it wasn't funny because that's #1 all we knowed you know the way. {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # 543: They wouldn't say yes sir no sir to us you know you know. But I'll tell you but Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: you know yeah no and so {D: uncle. It would be you know put age before it you know.} {NW} Or they'd say uncle or auntie. {C: laughing} Interviewer: Uh-huh. Do they do that uh today yet #1 uh? # 543: #2 Well I uh # {D: mean you know what they gonna} well sir man that started it. {C: laughing} This started d- man yes {D: sir now look at this.} The way they done started saying you know mister. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: And miss. But there's one thing about it I I can't {NW} I don't like about it is that the young peoples and they don't treat 'em t- teach 'em to say it. Mister. And yes sir and no sir. #1 They don't # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: do that much. Uh of course {D: they I mean another word they even say mister} pretty well you know about like that. But I'm saying yeah they say yeah no to you. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 I d- # I just can't get used to it. Interviewer: Yeah. #1 {X} Yeah no to everybody is. # 543: #2 Yeah no. Right right right. That's what # I mean you know. {D: But then yous going to stand there mister.} #1 They call you # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: mister you know mostly. #1 They they uh # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: most of 'em {D: gonna} teach them in saying that you know. That they didn't back {D: there} you know of course. Interviewer: Did you uh did they use the word kids #1 when you # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: were young uh? 543: Children. #1 Children. Chillun. Chilluns. # Interviewer: #2 Children. {X} Chilluns. # 543: Chilluns. Interviewer: Uh kids is not uh you didn't hear that #1 word. {X} # 543: #2 No sir. No sir. # No sir that's that's that's style. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. {X} # 543: #2 {NW} # That's style now. {C: laughing} Kids. {NW} #1 You call 'em # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: chilluns. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # Do anything uh do any other expressions come back to you that you used to use uh especially colored people with other colored people so that uh oh just different jokes and expressions and things like that. Uh any of those things come back for you? 543: Well I'll tell you whatsit I've had several you know that come around but uh you know like I had some of 'em left me you know that I thought I would mention about it but. Yes sir And to back there we were talking about the law and all you know. {NW} And uh back there in them time if uh I say I call 'em colored fellow must be working for {D: or a} white man or living on his place or something what he'd tell them. #1 And that's # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: the way that it went. {D: They were} you go there and if you get into it over there why make it back over here. says if you stay out of the cemetery I keep you out of the plantation. Interviewer: I see. {C: laughing} 543: And that did do it. #1 {NW} That's right. # Interviewer: #2 Oh I see. Uh-huh. # How did uh how did they work uh? Was that share work or #1 sharecropping or {X} # 543: #2 Uh that that that was the # ooh that was the biggest thing. Yes sir that's right. Sharecropping. #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: Give them half they make you know. Live on a fella's places you know like that and give 'em half they make. Interviewer: Then then out of that half you you buy your #1 food. Or that you use it for your clothes. # 543: #2 Yes that's sir right. Uh right that's what you'd live on. Right. # Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Yes sir. Interviewer: And uh {NW} suppose you you just stay there in the house as long as you and the other man got #1 along? # 543: #2 Yes # sir that's right that's right. #1 Just on and on # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: Man stayed for years people have #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: Yes sir that's #1 right. # Interviewer: #2 Would # they ever uh would you ever have your own mule or or um? 543: Mm man not much. Not all that much. Now there there would be be a some few you know would buy a place out you know. Small place or something like that you'd you know. They'd have for their own you know. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 But # they just the most of 'em man just live on the other fella's place you know and just just stay there and work work work #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: and give 'em half they make well. {NW} Uh and probably they wouldn't make enough to pay out. Or they part. Just stay on and on and on. That would just {D: be up} on and on and it would just. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. So it'd be pretty important to to uh have a good man uh. #1 Good. That's right. That's right. Yes sir. Yes sir. That's right. # 543: #2 {X} Otherwise he could # Interviewer: he could cheat #1 you uh. # 543: #2 Uh. # {D: Oh yeah.} {NW} He did a lot. {C: laughing} #1 Uh they uh. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: That's that's the way. that's right yes sir. Interviewer: Just part of the. 543: Yes sir well what else could I do? Just stay on there. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 Go # {D: beyond well that's that's} that's that's about the way it is. Yes #1 sir. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: And um oh man. {D: And I know} my daddy done it one time and that's the reason I'm I'm saying it to you. {NW} He we- that's the way we did is he he he a lots work on the other fella's place {D: that's where you and I say. We'd} go on the fella's place and clean it up and everything and all. And well they get it cleaned up and everything well. {D: Yeah.} {NW} They didn't have much more to do with this work well. Uh he'd say well you owe so much and you never pay it and all so well they got it fixed up there. And he'd go somewhere else. He bought a place over there from a fella. And we was going ahead and working and paying for the place and bolts and stocking everything and then pay the lots on it and said well the man just come in and say well George say you just can't pay for this place. {D: You just will uh} let me have it back he said. I just I'm gonna just take it back. #1 Took it back # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: {D: and that's the way that it going on.} Interviewer: #1 And you couldn't do anything? # 543: #2 Oh n- # never what n- {D: you go beyond well that's you and that man. That's all of it.} Interviewer: {X} That's just. 543: Oh well well that things that's just the way things #1 works that's all. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # Yeah. But they treat uh do you think that they treat white farmers the same way uh #1 uh sure. # 543: #2 Yeah they did. # Yes sir. #1 yes sir you know # Interviewer: #2 {x} # 543: poor people's poor people. Right yes sir. #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: {D: Done been around 'em.} Interviewer: #1 So # 543: #2 Right. Yes sir. # Interviewer: just uh just #1 got a meanness in 'em uh. # 543: #2 Oh yes sir # that's all I know. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 You know # just that's just their way of Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: Kind of would take a lot of uh a lot of Christian charity {D: would it.} #1 {NW} # 543: #2 Right right right. # That's right. {D: That's where I says} things changed up so so much now. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: Okay if you had it to do over again would you like to grow up now or would you just as #1 soon {X} # 543: #2 Well # it's hard to tell. {C: laughing} In {D: waves} you know. Well you said just take it the whole way round. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 Oh well. # Oh well I'm gonna tell you. I'd go back. {C: laughing} Interviewer: You would go back. 543: I'd go back. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 543: Well probably oh well {D: this is to good there's a lot to that though.} If I was helped back in you know in everything oh wealth and uh able bodied and everything you know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: And but up now uh I couldn't go through couldn't go through now what I have went #1 through. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # Mm-hmm. 543: Yeah. Interviewer: Uh yo- young people oh don't have that kind of thing that somebody cheating them all the time though. That's they #1 the way that you have a chance to get ahead wouldn't you? # 543: #2 {X} Oh yeah uh that # man as much of a chance. #1 and they don't use # Interviewer: #2 Right. # 543: it a lot of them. That's what that's what #1 ooh gets on me. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: {D: Give you a} chance now man that's #1 right. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: Uh-huh. It's different in that way but uh on the other hand there. 543: {NW} #1 That's it that's it that's it. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: Yes sir yes sir. Interviewer: #1 Innovations # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: that you had to put up #1 with uh uh today {X} # 543: #2 Sure sure sure. That is right. # Yes sir. Yes sir. Uh-huh. Interviewer: So your children uh all left and and and n- none of your children are. 543: Well there's none. Other words #1 they are not in the # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: house with me. {D: Oh there there is} some there you know close to around live on the place you know I give 'em a acre a piece there you know. Interviewer: Oh. 543: It's uh three three living right there. Yes sir. #1 And uh # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: they they they got their little ol' house there you know. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: {D: And that's it public working.} Interviewer: Mm-hmm. And your wife is she in pretty good health? 543: No sir. No #1 Oh she isn't? # Interviewer: #2 sir. No sir. No # 543: sir no sir. Interviewer: #1 {X} # 543: #2 No sir. # She stayed in the hospital last spring good bit. #1 Yes. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: in bad health. And she just stayed around the home now she tending to two of the little grand chillun there you know. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #1 # 543: #2 # Interviewer: And your health seems to be very good or #1 {X} # 543: #2 Oh man that's # what people will say but I ain't near well as I look. {C: laughing} #1 Then I'd be # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: some old {X} some kind of construction work now. Interviewer: Oh. 543: Oh I've done a lot of it just for little or nothing. Ooh man. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 That's right. # And I know what to do and how to do and everything you know and all. Could get a job anywhere anytime but it wasn't paying nothing. And so now it's paying something and I ain't able to do it. Interviewer: {X} 543: #1 That's right. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. # 543: That's right yes sir yes sir #1 sure. # Interviewer: #2 I # guess the the good wages 543: #1 Right right man that's # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: what I look at you know. Interviewer: #1 And uh # 543: #2 And these people that # can do it won't do it. Interviewer: There uh you look around Oxford and this building up so fast 543: #1 Right right. Oh man that is right yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 construction all around. {X} Go up # up to highway seven 543: {NW} Interviewer: and there's this great big uh developments there. 543: Yes sir. #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: Sure. Interviewer: Um I don't know where all the money comes from is a lot of it #1 {X} # 543: #2 I don't know. # {X} It look like it is. Man. I think sometimes {C: laughing} I don't know what the government gonna do directly. {C: laughing} I mean oh man way back out here {NW} I'd say about three miles back in here on a little dirt road on the camp ground road we call it you know. And man they building houses and they're big houses. {C: drawn out} {D: Cutting those} roads to 'em you know. just building that country up. It'll be in town. {D: Here's a} town over here #1 directly. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # In fact uh it seems to me Oxford is all the way out practically to Taylor. 543: Yeah right right right yes sir it's moving on out. #1 Just keeps building on both ways # Interviewer: #2 Just keep building out. Mm-hmm. # 543: all the way up. Yes sir. Interviewer: You mentioned um uh ms {B} out on the campground road. I never did get out there #1 is? # 543: #2 Well. # Interviewer: Uh is she uh does she have let's see did you tell me she has a high school education or? 543: I believe that woman do have. Interviewer: Uh would you tell me more about her uh I what I'm what I'm thinking is this uh I have just just one uh I've got two white uh interviews and just one black #1 and uh # 543: #2 Yes sir. # I see. Interviewer: I'd like to have somebody uh maybe a woman. And uh since you're a man it's probably a good thing to have a woman and have oh uh uh you you've done a lot of farming and so if you could think of some woman who would uh well you're working uh maybe a teacher or work in the post office or something like that 543: #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Would be # an interesting kind of balance uh. 543: Sure. Interviewer: Or just like I interviewed {NW} a school teacher a white school teacher and then uh a white farmer. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: And I interviewed you now I'd like to balance so if you can think of any. 543: A teacher she's she's #1 uh # Interviewer: #2 Or # or uh it doesn't doesn't have to be a #1 teacher but # 543: #2 Well # Interviewer: doesn't matter if she's. What is this ms {B} done uh? 543: #1 Uh she # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: farmed most of the time you know. #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 She farmed? # 543: And then she's just a midwife. And I'll tell you what now my I got a sister in law out there she taught students she done retired now. and I would just oh if you just had time to go out there and just talk with her and see whether you would you know wanna wanna use her you #1 know. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: I she done retired. Interviewer: #1 She did huh? # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: Is she uh did she grow up in this county? #1 {X} She did? # 543: #2 Oh yes sir right right just # raised right over here in the edge of town. Right over here. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: Uh I'd like to uh if you tell me how to uh to uh get in touch with her. 543: Oh yes sir {D: yes she's still right outside of ms} not very far {D: out on the other side of ms} {B} around there. Corner of Montgo- well in other words his na- Her name is {D: Uneeda} {B} {D: Uneeda} {B} and her husband name {D: Quinum} {B} Her husband. Interviewer: And they're on the {B} 543: I tell you what {D: though if y- you} go out there uh you can go either way. Uh well you can go out this a way I this way I'm gonna tell you this way. you just go out there and hit {B} road and know about where it is over here you know Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: And go in down there about oh easily about about a mile from thirty round {B} road you get down that way sir. Interviewer: And that's it? 543: to the right Interviewer: #1 Go off to the right? {X} # 543: #2 Yes sir go out # here you know. {NW} little John's store where you know where that that place is there you know. That little ol' {D: cream colored like about this that's} {B}. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: You turn there it's just about a mile around that road there. And he lives on the right side you get around that where you see some trucks and trailer and tractors. And he live in a white house to the right there. Yeah you'll see a lot of ol' truck a lot of trucks and tractors and to the left there in front of it is two or three trailers there. Interviewer: Mm-hmm. 543: And of course {NW} uh if you wanna call her and talk to her you could do that you know. Interviewer: I I was gonna say is she in the phone book? 543: #1 Oh yeah her hu- uh her husband # Interviewer: #2 Uh. Here? # 543: has a phone uh you know yes sir. {X} {B}. Interviewer: {NW} 543: And I can call her and tell her so she {C: laughing} you know how some peoples be you know but #1 I don't # Interviewer: #2 Right. # 543: think she'd be because she she's uh {D: Q let's see see.} It's it's in the it's in the M's. {D: Quinum} {B} Interviewer: Let's see. Maybe I'm not spelling it right. 543: {D: Quinum} {B} See now I have to {C: laughing} get the #1 glasses see. # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # 543: {B}. Oh yeah oh I don't know let me see now. I can't keep it in my head this is in the M's and Interviewer: Uh-huh. 543: M to E M uh M-C. let's see let's see Wait now wait now. Where would the M-C {D: be now.} {X} {B} {X} #1 Uh here's {X} right there. # Interviewer: #2 Oh there he is. There he is. # 543: #1 Right there. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # {B} 543: That's right. Interviewer: Uh. {B} 543: #1 Yes sir. # Interviewer: #2 Um # would you have time to call her now or is it about two oh #1 clock? # 543: #2 Well uh # I c- I could have time to call her now and tell her you know just uh. Interviewer: Okay. 543: just uh you know you think you'd #1 go out when uh # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 543: sometime uh and if she would #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 Whenever # she uh would like. 543: She's babysitting too around there everyday. {BEEP} Interviewer: {X} Okay uh #1 {X} # 543: #2 {X} # {X} Interviewer: {X} house? {BEEP} {NW} {NW} 543: {X} how you doing? Oh I'm getting old. {NW} You done got old before? {C: laughing} {NW} {NW} Oh yeah. {C: laughing} Oh yeah I'm going through this exercise talking about these old {NW} {D: Uneed} listen I'm I'm I'm finishing up my tape here telling back in them olden times with a man here and he wanna know somebody you know probably that you know out you know and you know old peoples like us {NW} to talk about them olden times. {D: And Uneed} would you be interested in talking with him and he wanna tape it you know. {D: He gonna share it} Chicago. {C: laughing} {NW} Yeah. {C: laughing} Yes yes uh-huh yeah. Yeah and some of 'em told him about ms {B} and all so we just got to talking about peoples and everything you know. And uh about you and how you used to teach school and all and but. Uh huh. {D: Uneed yeah.} And I yeah. Well listen I you know thought I'd ca- call you know cause so much junk going on {D: you know we I that that's right.} {NW} {NW} I don't blame you. Yes and uh well listen then if you will then I'm gon- I'm I'm here in his office now. And or well his office here in this uh you know in the motel. No in the motel uh. Yeah. And so listen if you would talk and you know and he'd tell you about what it is here and he I'll I'll let him talk to you now and so it it's all right because I done been up here and put up my hours. {NW} All right dear. Well now listen I'm gonna let him talk to you now. All right. Interviewer: {X} #1 Thanks very much. # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: Hello ms {B} uh my name is mister {B} and uh right I'm interviewing uh people who grew up in this county and uh I'd like to ask uh a lot of questions about oh family life and uh school life church life and farming and things like that. And I certainly would like very much to talk to you if you've got any time. Well we are putting together a uh what's called uh an atlas and we ask about the same questions in different parts of the country and we're comparing the different terms and expressions and words that uh we we find. New England has been done and uh we're now doing the southern states. And uh I I should explain to you as I did to uh mister {B} I'm I'm not selling anything. And uh I'm just trying to collect this information and take it back to the university. Right uh the Emory University in Atlanta is collecting it and the University of Chicago is the headquarters. Eventually it eventually it will yes the New England states uh yes in fact I'll bring you the book out if you'd like to see it. It has been published and uh there are a series of maps and charts to the terms and expressions and uh it's really an exercise in language history as a matter of fact uh trying to compare the different uh regions according to their settlement patterns and and uh the south is really the most interesting place because it's one of the oldest uh settled areas in the country. Well I appreciate that very much uh would this afternoon {NW} be good or? {NW} Excuse me. Uh All right uh I'll try to be out there around say three oh clock. Three thirty. All right I'll see you then. Thank you very much bye. {NW} Yes I really {X} #1 {X} # 543: #2 I see yes sir. # #1 And uh. # Interviewer: #2 She sounds # uh just an ideal {NW} kind of uh uh person to talk to because then I can #1 balance up you know a man and woman and # 543: #2 {X} # Interviewer: your interests are #1 different and. # 543: #2 That's right. # Sure sure. #1 sure. # Interviewer: #2 {X} very # good. 543: Yes sir I #1 love talking to her # Interviewer: #2 Uh. # 543: myself now. That's #1 that's my sister in law. # Interviewer: #2 Um. # 543: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Three thirty. 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: This afternoon. 543: Well listen did you you got about uh all the white folks that you was wanting or you gonna try to get some more? Interviewer: Well {NW} I think uh I've got {NW} I think those two would probably be #1 enough or did you have some others # 543: #2 Be enough. # Interviewer: #1 somebody else in mind or? # 543: #2 Oh no I'll tell there's a # a man and me and this man around here worked in around here in this food stamps center. Of course we growed up together some but he's much younger than I am. and it's a white man down at {X} spring. I don't guess you know where it is. Out #1 these here about # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # 543: sixteen miles. Interviewer: Mm. 543: And he's a big talker and man and talked way back. He's a old man now done retired and everything. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 543: #2 I # tell you he's a talker. {C: laughing} Interviewer: Well that's uh uh. I #1 {X} # 543: #2 Well I'll # tell you what if you think you might need him sometime then I could the way he live #1 and everything. # Interviewer: #2 Well that'd be fine. # 543: #1 Well yes sir you know if you think you might would I'll be ready. # Interviewer: #2 Alright uh-huh uh. # mister {B} I really can't thank you enough for your help I mean 543: #1 Oh yeah. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: #1 Anytime I {X} # Interviewer: #2 Not only uh {X} # help but I really enjoyed 543: #1 Well of course of course yes sir yes sir yes sir that's right. # Interviewer: #2 working with you. Uh yeah. # Very clear and very interesting and I certainly #1 can't thank you enough. # 543: #2 {X} # #1 Yes sir sure sure you # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: welcome welcome. yes #1 sir. {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Um. # And I certainly wish you the very best and I hope you uh #1 your health improves and {X} # 543: #2 Yeah. {X} Yes sir I I I # hope so then yes sir. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 I suppose # you'd get more sympathy if you didn't look look so healthy. 543: #1 Well maybe so # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: {D: yeah uh uh that's right.} Interviewer: #1 I know you looked uh big and # 543: #2 Yes sir that's it. # Interviewer: strong and vigorous. #1 {NW} # 543: #2 Sure. # that's right I've been telling 'em I was gonna retire start to retire two uh sixty-two. {NW} And and some of 'em well the ol' lady work there on the other side no no no I wouldn't quit work I was you I say why you look you look like you so healthy and everything #1 I said # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: I don't feel it {D: oh I wouldn't be able to keep on you know we trying to make it to sixty-five.} {NW} Interviewer: Well 543: #1 Well # Interviewer: #2 you're uh # you'll be sixty-five say next month. 543: Uh to uh May yes sir. #1 May. May. The twenty-ninth of May # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. {X} # 543: yes sir. #1 And really I'm gonna # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: tell you what too man that's another thing. I believe in the way I always c- come up into here not long ago I went out here to get my school {D: ce- uh} {D: uh uh} my birth c- {NW} birth certificate. It got b- blowed away in a storm out yonder. Married license everything you know. so in my mother's house. And so I didn't have any had to go in and get the school record. and man they got it messed up up there you know and uh and that's what showing it now. This coming May I'll be sixty-five. {D: Well I I'm} I'm I think I'm a year older than that #1 you know. # Interviewer: #2 Oh. # 543: And they they they tried to find you know my name there you know and everything but as a child between me and one of my sisters you know and it's not and that of me you know that would make me a #1 year year older. But I don't know # Interviewer: #2 Oh. Yeah. {X} # 543: {D: this these old people and just} just didn't have it fixed up #1 right and that's just how they. # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. And there's # probably nobody left to uh 543: No no no no no #1 sir no sir no sir that's right. Sure no sir. # Interviewer: #2 {X} Uh-huh. {X} # 543: Yes sir. Interviewer: Well when you do retire I sure how you enjoy it. 543: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: #1 Well I'll still # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: try to work #1 as long as I can do it can though. {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 Uh uh-huh. # 543: {NW} Interviewer: Well I uh #1 uh # 543: #2 Yes sir. # Interviewer: hope you have real pleasure out #1 here. {X} # 543: #2 Well all right then thank you # so much then yes sir. and I think you can find that place out there. You just go on up there until you get to some tractors #1 and uh you know. # Interviewer: #2 Tractors on the right. # 543: #1 Yes sir there there's a house there's a white house there on the right there. # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. White house. Uh-huh. # 543: Right there at them trucks and. Interviewer: #1 How I probably {X} probably. # 543: #2 Yes sir. Oh no sir no sir. # No sir. #1 I don't think you want {X} # Interviewer: #2 Uh-huh. # 543: {X} #1 that's right. # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 543: Well I go then Interviewer: #1 All right. Well thank you. {X} # 543: #2 and so I'll be seeing you {X} you take notes and # {D: go with that man or} #1 something uh. # Interviewer: #2 Very very much. # 543: #1 You can you can come around and try that. # Interviewer: #2 All right. I I'll do that # #1 I'll do that. Okay well thanks again. {X} # 543: #2 And yes sir. Yes sir. All right. Well I'll see you. Good luck to you. # Interviewer: Bye. Thanks a lot.