Interviewer: Your name? 595: {B} {NS} Interviewer: and your address? 595: {B} {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NS} um where were you born? {NS} 595: I was born right here in Jefferson County {NS} Interviewer: Right here at Norman or 595: uh {NS} I believe now that would be in um {NS} no {NS} I don't know There ain't nothing no community at all didn't have no {NS} no name to it Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 595: #2 It just # {NS} Jefferson {X} in general is all I can say {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm About how far away from here? {NS} 595: About {NS} ten miles {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Whats the name of this community? {NS} 595: Norman {NS} Interviewer: and state? {NS} 595: Mississippi {NS} Interviewer: and how old are you? 595: Fifty {NS} Interviewer: Exactly fifty? 595: mm-hmm {NS} I was fifty in October. {NS} Interviewer: and um tell me about the work you do or what work you have done {NS} 595: Well {NW} I've not been {NS} employed besides wife #1 all # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 595: Nothing after that {NW} Interviewer: You uh you did farming and 595: Yeah now I did work in the field when I was a kid Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Do y'all farm any at all now? 595: Well we raise a little corn in the garden is about all {NS} Interviewer: Oh and what church do you go to? {NS} 595: Fellowship Baptist {D: over here at the} {NS} Interviewer: Over where? 595: {X} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Tell me about your education. What school you went to how far you got? {NS} 595: Well I went {NS} to Union Church but that has been discontinued now. Interviewer: mm-hmm. {NS} Where was it? near where you lived? {NS} 595: um {NS} I don't know. Have you ever been out that way? {NS} It's good little piece from here Interviewer: It's down past Redlake or? 595: uh-huh Yeah way down {NS} Get on twenty-eight {NS} out there and then {NS} twenty-eight runs right through. Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 595: #2 Union Church # Interviewer: {NS} Uh how long did you go there? {NS} 595: About seven years I imagine Interviewer: uh-huh up through seventh grade? or sixth grade? 595: Sixth Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: I got in about a half a year {NS} before I was old enough to go to school Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} um Have you done any traveling? 595: huh-uh Just visiting around a little bit Interviewer: Mm-hmm where have you gone? 595: Well I went to Louisiana {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: Texas a couple times {NS} Interviewer: Are you very active in church or any clubs? 595: No but we do go to church. Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: We're not any {NS} club members Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about uh your parents where were they born? {NS} 595: They were born here in Jefferson County Interviewer: Both of them? 595: uh-huh {NS} hmm {NS} Interviewer: Over near where you 595: {NW} Interviewer: Over near where you were born? 595: mm-hmm Yeah sure was. My grandfather Ross um {NS} had his place out there well and we were all born on the same place on his place {NS} Interviewer: This was your mother's father? 595: My daddy's daddy. Well my mother's father was born here in Jefferson County too {NS} Interviewer: Hmm you sure were {NS} um {NS} Do you know {NS} anything about your parent's education? If they could read and write or? 595: Yeah they could read and write but now as far as me knowing how far they got in school I I couldn't say Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What sort of work did they do? {NS} 595: Daddy farmed some when he was younger and {NS} and public worked Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about your mother? {NS} 595: Well she didn't hold {NS} a job either {X} has one Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} um And your grandparents let's see your mother's parents they were {NS} 595: Well now I didn't know {NS} much about them {NS} mm-hmm Grandma Davenport died when {NS} I was just a kid Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: And I never did know grandpa Davenport he died when mother was {NS} a small child Interviewer: mm-hmm Do you know where they were born? {NS} 595: No I I don't think I do {NS} but {NS} they were all born here in Jefferson County. Interviewer: oh your {NS} mother's parents #1 were both # 595: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: born in Jefferson county? 595: uh-huh Mother and daddy both both sides of the family born in Jefferson County Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Do you know what um sort of work your mother's parents did? {NS} 595: Well no now my grandfather on mother's side Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: Had a cotton gin {NS} and if I remember right {NS} he ran the post office {NS} just a little hole in the wall I guess you could call it. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} So he's he could probably read and write pretty well. 595: mm-hmm yeah {NS} What about your um grandmother {NS} you know about her education? No uh I don't Interviewer: mm-hmm {NW} um {NS} And your grandparents on your father's side? 595: Well now I can barely remember my grandpa on daddy's side but grandma died when I {NS} shortly after her last child so Interviewer: mm 595: Oh that'd be a hundred years ago {NW} because I think grandma Davenport was {NS} I believe now she was right around ninety-two when she died {NS} Aux: {NW} 595: I never did get to see grandpa Davenport Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Do you know anything about your father's parents um like what sort of work they did or 595: {NW} Well now grandpa Ross was a farmer {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about your grandmother? {NS} just housewife or 595: mm-hmm Yeah she was a housewife {NS} Aux: {X} Interviewer: Would you know about their education? 595: No Interviewer: {NS} mm-hmm 595: I wouldn't {NS} Interviewer: Did you ever hear um anybody say where um either of your parent's people came from way back a long time ago 595: No but I think um {NS} I think uh let's see know was it grandpa Davenport {NS} Was it {NS} Scott's descent Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Is this your mother's? 595: uh-huh {NS} Mother's daddy {NS} Interviewer: What about your husband how old is he? 595: He's fifty-five {NS} Interviewer: And he goes to {NS} a baptist church too? 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: What about his education? 595: Well now I think he got a third grade education Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} what sort of work does he do? 595: He works with {D: R-E} {NS} Interviewer: Is it rural electric 595: mm-hmm Interviewer: What does he do? for R-E {NS} 595: Well he used to be {D: a line} {NS} he does {NW} now just anything in general here if they need him out on the lines they'll send him out {NS} and if they don't need him there well they'll put him in the shop to Aux: what 595: repair the trucks and anything that has to be done Interviewer: mm-hmm What um where was he born? 595: He was born here in Jefferson County. We're all homesteaders {NW} we didn't stray off very far {NW} Interviewer: Do you think his parents were born here too? {NS} 595: Well now I don't know but I have heard his mother Aux: {X} {NS} 595: Speak of um {NS} I don't know I believe they were all born in Franklin County {NS} Interviewer: Where's that? 595: {X} {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: No I think that's in it's either Franklin or Wilkinson County I don't know just which. Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: but Aux: {X} 595: I don't think now they were born here but they all migrated from way down it's not far {NS} Interviewer: um Is your husband very active in {NS} clubs or church or 595: uh-uh He's just uh lodge and legion member and Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: Outside of that that's all Interviewer: What's what lodge? your son's lodge 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: What legion? {NS} 595: The American legion. Aux: {X} {NS} {X} Interviewer: are you in {NS} anything like that or you just go {NS} 595: uh-uh uh well now we uh {NS} we attend the suppers and that's how that and the installation of the officers #1 that's all # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 595: {NS} Interviewer: um Tell me something about what this community is like how much it's changed since well when did you come to Norman? 595: I think I lived here in Norman about well thirty- two years #1 I think # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 595: And it hasn't changed much {NS} some of the old buildings has been sold and the older people have died out and {NS} some of the buildings has been sold and the only thing new around is the post office Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: And it's not completed yet but it's Interviewer: What? {NS} they're building a new post office 595: mm-hmm Interviewer: where's that? 595: uh just across the highway on {X} {NS} But it used to have a hotel that's been discontinued as it's about to fall down {NW} {NS} {X} {NS} Interviewer: uh {NS} When you were growing up did you live in did you move around a lot or? 595: uh-uh No um we was out here in the eastern part of the county {NS} and I married and mother and daddy now the young one's all lived Vicksburg Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: and {NS} we was all born and raised here and we settled here after we married Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} um I'd like to get an idea of what the house that you grew up in looked like you think you could um sort of make a a floor plan of it you know to show me where the rooms how many rooms there were and and where they were? 595: I can't I don't even remember Barbara it's been so long and that house has been all torn down Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: So I wouldn't I wouldn't know how to start anything like that Interviewer: What about for this house here? do you think you could 595: well Interviewer: sorta make a 595: I'll let you do the drawing I'll let you look and um {NW} Interviewer: well you tell 595: You can draw it Interviewer: You tell me how it is 595: oh well Well you could very well take it here Interviewer: no 595: Well it's just uh you wanna sit over here or Interviewer: No you just go sit down I'll {NS} 595: It's just a four room house. Interviewer: just is it longer than it is wide or 595: Yeah I believe it is uh-huh {NS} and we built this extra room on over on the other end of it {NS} Interviewer: Do you know what the how many? 595: #1 the dimensions are? # Interviewer: #2 feet there are # 595: I think this is uh {NS} twelve by fourteen I think Interviewer: twelve feet wide 595: mm-hmm Interviewer: fourteen 595: fourteen long {NS} Interviewer: oh 595: Now this room the living room and that bedroom in there they're both the same size Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: and the this junk room and kitchen are the same size Interviewer: so so like you just divide it right down the middle 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: okay {NW} um {X} where where do I put them all {NS} are these four rooms all the same size? 595: Uh well what this one and this one are these two are and this supposedly bedroom and the kitchen are all the same size but they're smaller than Interviewer: uh-huh 595: I think they have nine and a half feet wide Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: and eighteen feet long Interviewer: for what footage 595: this uh bedroom in here Interviewer: uh-huh 595: kitchen I measured the kitchen here not but two or three years ago I was going to put some linoleum on it Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: and I never did do it after Woodrow started with the tile in here I said, "well we'll be going all over it" Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: and pay as we go {NS} Interviewer: um let's see this {NS} scattered I'm gonna {NS}{X} gets too low {X} 595: Yes it does {NW} {NS} Interviewer: Let's see now there are just four rooms in this 595: mm-hmm Interviewer: house? 595: And um we built this other one on over on the other side Interviewer: Where? Where is that? Over here? {NS} 595: uh Interviewer: If this this is the room we're in now 595: mm-hmm {NS} Well now it would be over on this side then {NS} Interviewer: Wait a second {NS} yeah over how far out does it go? {NW} 595: mm {NS} It's either a twelve {NS} or a fourteen by sixteen {NS} Interviewer: So it {NS} is it does it go back as far as this 595: #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 room # 595: uh-huh sure does Interviewer: Something like that then? 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: You say each of these rooms this room here is twelve by fourteen? 595: mm-hmm {NS} Of course the little boy here going to the bathroom {NS} now that would be the bathroom and the foyer would be behind that other room over on the other side Interviewer: how you sorted all that huh? {NS} how are the bathroom 595: well the {NS} Interviewer: let's see 595: Plus it uh {NS} that other room and really cut it off some {NS} oh no little boy room gonna be like this Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: And uh the bathroom is whole width of this room I'm I'll mess it up for you {NS} and it's a little Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 595: #2 little # space maybe that is wide that doesn't extend as far as the kitchen does Interviewer: mm-hmm what was the foyer? {NS} 595: Well um then you come out of this room {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: Go through there uh I said I'd mess you up guess I did {NS} and uh go on in the bathroom and then um come out of the kitchen Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: and to the bathroom Interviewer: This is is just sort of a little space 595: uh-huh mm-hmm something little like a little hall Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} This is the bathroom? 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: What about this room here? 595: Now that would be the kitchen. {NS} Interviewer: And this? {NS} 595: That would be the this bedroom in here Interviewer: What was the junk? 595: Junk room that's my bedroom. Interviewer: Of this #1 okay # 595: #2 mm-hmm # {NW} If I had anything to hide I'd go poke it in there Interviewer: {NW} What about um {NS} this room here? 595: Now that's a bedroom. {NS} Interviewer: Oh this is the room we're in now 595: Oh yeah well this is the bedroom then {NS} Interviewer: oh {NS} 595: {NW} This this would be the living room Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Any old fashioned name for living room? {NS} 595: I don't know unless it's called it a parlor Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever call it that? 595: uh-uh Sure did Interviewer: What about this room here? 595: Well now that one uh would be the uh bedroom and we would Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: Built on {NS} you said there was a closet Interviewer: #1 somewhere # 595: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: where? 595: Yeah there's a little closet in this other bedroom in here {NS} Interviewer: hmm 595: Closet between {NS} the bedroom and the bathroom Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} So here or something in this bedroom here? the new one? 595: mm-hmm Interviewer: Just like that or? {NW} 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: um What about the doors where are they? {NS} 595: {NW} Let me see now well we have a front door to that other room out yonder I don't understand this you know in a {NS} outlay or anything like that but the {NS} door is long in here Interviewer: uh-huh 595: but it uh we're pretty close to it Interviewer: right here? 595: mm-hmm And then {NS} one I guess you could say it's out this way Interviewer: It goes to outside? 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: What about {NS} and you say there's a door here? 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: There's that one there. {NS} and {NS} what about uh {NS} uh the doors back here? {NS} 595: Let me see um bedroom and the kitchen {NS} well I guess you would put your door right along there then. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about {X} can you get {NS} from this bedroom to the kitchen? {NS} Is there a door here? 595: mm-hmm {NS} Yeah I reckon so {NS} there's one there and one back in there Interviewer: mm-hmm What about from this one kitchen to the bathroom is there a door? 595: mm-hmm yeah {NS} Interviewer: Or does it is it there or {NS} is it come from this foyer? 595: uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: Like that? {NS} 595: Let's see now {NS} I imagine so yes uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: Is this door from this foyer too? should it come {NS} 595: Well as you go through the kitchen you'll take a {NS} take the left Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: No you don't you take the right {NS} and you go in the bathroom {NS} and you take a left as you {NS} in the foyer you go into the bedroom Interviewer: Oh so this {NS} {NW} {NS} okay is there a door from these two bedrooms to each other? {NS} 595: {D: let me get this uh} Interviewer: #1 you can't see? # 595: #2 from {X} # Interviewer: Can you see now? from that bedroom in there to the bedroom you #1 got # 595: #2 oh huh-uh # uh-uh Interviewer: okay 595: No you have to go have to go through the kitchen or on the porch Interviewer: Where is how is the porch come? {NS} 595: Let's see uh {NS} Interviewer: Does it go all the way across the front 595: mm-hmm Well no {X} {NS} stops off I imagine about mid ways between that window and door and that {NS} Aux: It can't get to the window Interviewer: oh it it goes just like about to here or 595: mm-hmm I imagine so about half way {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: Well {NW} I don't know {NS} I guess it's all the same but the porch on this room goes all the way the porch is all the way on this extra room Interviewer: how oh the #1 porch should go all the way to this room? # 595: #2 mm-hmm mm-hmm # mm-hmm all the way down past that bedroom that that's the new bedroom there Interviewer: uh-huh wait {NS} 595: It would stop off about half way {NS} from the living room well it's not quite Aux: is that like that 595: #1 uh # Aux: #2 isn't it? # Interviewer: {NS} oh so it goes like that 595: mm-hmm Interviewer: and cuts off here? Aux: {X} Interviewer: #1 okay # Aux: #2 {X} # #1 {X} # 595: #2 okay # Small porches {X} Interviewer: #1 What a # Aux: #2 {X} # {X} Interviewer: is there a back porch or? 595: mm-hmm Yeah we do have a back porch it {NS} comes out {NS} from the kitchen {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: and it stops off right at the kitchen door {NS} and it goes all the way back to the {NS} Interviewer: is where's the kitchen door behind us? {NS} 595: Well I imagine that would be right along in there Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: and part in the back porch is uh walled up there's just part of it opened and the rest of it's built up so high in the screened room Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Which part is that? {NW} 595: Well I I would say you've got that about right {NS} Interviewer: Okay. {NS} Do you remember um? let's see to get from the porch to the ground you have uh {NS} How do you get from the porch down to the ground? {NS} 595: Well just just the steps would be all Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: That Aux: three 595: uh uh I think there's {NW} two or three #1 steps # Aux: #2 three steps # 595: uh-huh #1 There's three steps. # Aux: #2 Three # 595: {D: uh he only halfway} {D: talk so} {NS} uh You take all that kinda stuff for granted Interviewer: {NW} um 595: Been here so long told you {NS} you just kinda get set in your ways and you just take that for granted. Well it's there {NS} and I know it I don't pay it no mind Interviewer: yeah {NS} Do you remember any old fashioned name for porch? {NS} 595: Yeah a gallery. Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: Other than uh that's about all I know Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: Used to used to call them gallery {NS} Interviewer: um {NS} How did you get how was the house that you grew up in heated? {NS} 595: Fireplace Interviewer: uh-huh Tell me about the fireplace the thing that the smoke goes up through you call that the? 595: the chimney Interviewer: okay What about this this thing down here? 595: You call that the hearth. Interviewer: mm-hmm Do you ever remember cooking on that? {NS} 595: um yeah {NW} We'd roast potatoes {NS} sweet potatoes in the fireplace {NW} Interviewer: #1 What would you # 595: #2 That's about # All that the we cooked we always had on the wood stove Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: Cooked on that {NS} Interviewer: What would you use to cook in on the fireplace? {NS} What would you cook the food in? 595: An iron skillet I guess you'd call it. Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: uh {NS} I want you to {NS} Aux: #1 I know what y'all are talking # 595: #2 {X} # Dutch oven iron {NS} looked like an iron pot with it's top on it Interviewer: Did this skillet have legs on it or? 595: uh-huh Some of them did yeah Interviewer: mm-hmm What about the thing you'd use nowadays to fry eggs in? {NS} 595: Well ours would be the just the old plain wire and skillets Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: They wouldn't have legs on them. Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: and no tops Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Is the thing that um {NS} you set the wood on in the fireplace {NS} 595: They call those andirons. Interviewer: Any other name for those? 595: Well uh {NS} The old folks would call them dog irons {NS} sure would {NW} Interviewer: #1 What about um # 595: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NS} This thing here {NS} 595: Now that's a mantle {NS} and they have different shapes and sizes Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: Some of them are I don't know you might could call marble top or stone I don't know #1 just what they'd # Interviewer: #2 mm-hmm # 595: Would call them nowadays Interviewer: did {NW} you ever hear it called anything but mantle? {NS} 595: uh-huh sure have Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about um {NW} the black stuff that forms in the chimney? 595: That's soot. Interviewer: Okay {NS} And the stuff that you have to shovel out of the fireplace 595: That would be {NW} that's what we'd call the ashes {NW} Interviewer: uh-huh 595: {NW} Interviewer: Say if if you were gonna start a fire what kind of wood would you use? {NS} 595: Well just most any kind I reckon {NS} Interviewer: Well #1 You know # 595: #2 Something like the # Small kindling Interviewer: uh-huh What's kindling? 595: {X} well we'd always build our fires with pine, fat pine Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} That's what you call kindling? 595: uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: What about say you might take a big piece of wood and set that sort of towards the back of the fireplace {NS} it'd burn for a long time 595: That's the back log Interviewer: okay {NS} Tell me about things that you'd have in the house um this thing that I'm sitting in you'd call a? {NS} 595: Well that's my dining chair but {NW} Interviewer: Okay 595: {NW} I have to bring them to the living room because all our rockers {NW} when we get all of the rockers in here we don't have room for ourselves. Interviewer: Yeah {NS} What about um that thing there that {NS} two or three people could sit on? {NS} 595: Well a couch would be all I know {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh Any other name? 595: Well some people call them a davenport. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about sofa? 595: Sofas? Interviewer: mm-hmm Is that all the same thing? 595: mm-hmm {NS} I would imagine so. #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # {NS} What might you have in your bedroom to keep your clothes in? {NS} 595: Well we have a chest of drawers. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: And the rest of our things are hanging on a hanger on the wall. {NS} Interviewer: Did you ever see something that's built that um {NS} you can hang your clothes in? {NS} 595: Well some uh {NS} Cedar robes and a chifforobe Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: Well we had an old chifforobe in here {NS} Interviewer: What's the difference between the cedar robe and the chifforobe {NS} 595: Well the only difference I'd know would be that cedar robes are made of cedar Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: and {NS} people say that that cedar protects that odor protects the clothes from moths {NS} Interviewer: hmm 595: But I I wouldn't know myself {NW} I never did #1 have one # Interviewer: #2 yeah # 595: I wish I did Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 did you ever hear of another name for um # {NS} Cedar robe or did you ever hear of armoire or? {NS} 595: No I don't guess {NS} don't guess I have Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Anything else besides a chest of drawers {NS} that people maybe used to have? {NS} 595: Well um {NS} some people called them wardrobes {NS} Interviewer: And what's that? {NS} 595: Well we've got one in here. {NS} And it was here when we moved {NS} and uh it's a place where you can uh {NS} you know fold and stack your quilts away {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: and there's a top shelf I guess you can call that {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: and a shelf to put your linen in Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 595: #2 I don't know # {NS} I never did see one like that {NS} Interviewer: but you can't hang things in it 595: uh-uh no not this uh-uh {NS} Interviewer: What about something um {NS} that you might have in your windows to pull down to keep the light out? {NS} 595: Well the blinds would be all {NS} {D: that I can think of} #1 but I don't uh # Interviewer: #2 is that a # 595: I don't have any Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Is blinds made of solid material? 595: #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 or {X} # 595: {NW} {NS} yeah {NS} Interviewer: You just pull? 595: Yeah that's a shade a window shade. Interviewer: uh-huh The blinds are different from the 595: uh-huh {NS} The blinds are different you can pull a string and {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about um 595: {NW} Interviewer: What would you call all the things that you have in your house? {NS} say the table and chairs the couch and {NS} 595: Well I guess I would call it just about that Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What kind of 595: dining table Interviewer: {NS} What kind of store would you go to if you were going to buy some? {NS} 595: Well I guess I'd go to the furniture store Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: {NW} Interviewer: and the {NS} the top part of the house is called the {NS} 595: roof Interviewer: okay {NS} and the little room at the top of the house just under the roof {NS} 595: Now that would be the attic #1 I guess wouldn't it be? # Interviewer: #2 okay # {NS} What about the things along the edge of the roof to carry the water on? {NS} 595: That would be the eaves {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} how are they {NS} um on the roof are they built in or? 595: mm-hmm well ours are Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: and the top just extends little bit over Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about you know when you have a house in an "L" that low place where they come together? 595: mm-hmm Interviewer: that make a {NS} 595: now I don't know what you'd call that {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: I have no clue. {NS} but we used to live in a little house like that {NS} Interviewer: Oh really? 595: A bit {NS} across this way and then a little ways down this way {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} You never heard the name for that though 595: No I sure didn't {NS} Interviewer: um Did you ever hear {NS} of different kinds of kitchens maybe a kitchen built separate from the rest of the house or? {NS} 595: mm-hmm {NS} Like that uh {NS} same kind of thing. Did you pop my fingers little boy? {NS} That's the same kind of kitchen that uh {NS} My grandpa used to live in grandpa Ross used to live in. {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: his kitchen was built {NS} out from the house Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: No {NS} plank walk {NS} up on uh {NS} Well they'd saw logs and cut the blocks so high {NS} Interviewer: Did that plank walk have a special name? {NS} 595: Just a plank walk is all it was. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: As near as I remember {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: just a plank wall {NS} Interviewer: Did you ever hear of different names for kitchens? {NS} cook house or cook room or? {NS} something like that? {NS} 595: No {NS} I guess not. {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about a little room off the kitchen where you could store canned goods and dishes and things? {NS} 595: Well I don't know unless they'd call that a smokehouse Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: {D: would that be what it was?} I don't I don't really know {NS} Interviewer: just {NS} it's in your house though it's just a little room next to the kitchen 595: Oh I reckon that'd be called a cupboard wouldn't it? {NS} Interviewer: okay {NS} say um {NS} Do you have a lot of old worthless things like old broken furniture? {NS} That you're about to throw away? What might you call that? {NS} Say, "That's not good anymore that's just" {NS} 595: Well I'd call it junk I reckon Interviewer: okay 595: {X} {NW} get rid of it {NS} {NW} Interviewer: Say um {NS} A woman might say if her house was in a big mess she'd say, "I have to" {NS} do what to my house? {NS} It's all dirty I have to {NS} 595: Well just get on in there and clean it up but I'd call mine a disaster area Interviewer: #1 okay # 595: #2 {NW} # {NW} Which it usually is {NS} {NW} Aux: Can we go check out the puppies? {NS} 595: Sugar you don't have a {NS} jacket to put on Aux: I know where my {X} thing is {NS} Aux 2: a sweater? {NS} Aux: mm-hmm 595: Just wait a while maybe momma will come on down and {NS} pick you up and bring you a shirt too or a jacket {NS} Aux: I want to see the picture of the baby {NS} 595: Well they'll bring that too. Interviewer: Yeah {NW} 595: They sure will. {NS} So you you just stay inside {NS} while it's warm. {NS} Or where it's warm {NS} Aux: Cold out there 595: #1 yes ma'am # Aux: #2 with the puppies # 595: Goodness it's cold out there where the puppies are Aux: poor puppies are freezing {NS} 595: Well they momma go out there and stay with them {NS} {NW} {NS} See she'll tend to those puppies {NS} Aux: I know 595: We're wasting Barbara's tape. {NS} {NW} Doesn't matter does it? Aux: She said {X} he wanna talk {X} 595: hmm {NW} oh Aux: that's why I kept making noise 595: Well she she has to hang onto that so we better get on back to business. {NS} Okay let's go again {NW} Interviewer: The thing that you'd sweep with would be called a? 595: The broom. {NS} Interviewer: And say if if the door was open {NS} If the broom was in the corner and the door was open so the door was kind of hiding the broom you'd say the broom was {NS} where? {NS} 595: I'd just say it was behind the door. Interviewer: okay 595: It'd be there {NS} Interviewer: And if you had a two story house to get from the first floor to the second floor you have the 595: The stairs or the steps Interviewer: okay you call it steps if it's inside the house or? {NS} 595: Well I believe {NW} more often called stairs Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about um {NS} years ago on Monday women usually did what kind of work? 595: That was the usually their wash day Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What about on Tuesday? {NS} 595: Well they probably ironed. {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} So they'd say I this week I have to do the {NS} 595: washing and {NS} ironing Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} um {NS} and the place where a bachelor might have his shirts done in town that'd be called a? {NW} 595: Laundry I guess Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Did people used to use that word "laundry" to talk about washing and ironing? {NS} Did they ever say {X} 595: I guess so {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: Uh {NS} more likely than that'd be what they would call it Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} and {NS} if the door was 595: Are you marking that up? Don't do it. Interviewer: If the door was opened and you didn't want it that way you'd ask somebody to 595: to close it {NS} Interviewer: Or another word you could use 595: shut {NW} Interviewer: okay {NS} And you know some houses have boards on the outside of the house that lap over each other 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: You'd call that? 595: uh clap board I guess is what {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: {NW} {NS} That's the way this was when {NS} Interviewer: #1 any other name? # 595: #2 it's first # #1 built # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 595: {NW} Well now if it is I don't know about it {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: {NW} Clap board is all I know. You? Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: {NW} Interviewer: And say if if you wanted to hang up a picture you'd say I took a nail and a {NS} 595: And a hammer #1 {D:on tack} # Interviewer: #2 and # 595: {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} and I took the hammer and I what the nail in? {NS} 595: Drive it I reckon. Interviewer: okay #1 so I took # 595: #2 {X} # Interviewer: {NS} took the nail and took a hammer and {NS} 595: Hit the nail Interviewer: or {NS} talking about driving 595: {X} Aux: {NW} 595: {X} in the wall Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} You say yesterday I took the hammer and {NS} 595: drove it in Interviewer: okay #1 and # 595: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: the nail didn't get in far enough you'd say it's got to be {NS} 595: #1 driven more # Interviewer: #2 what # okay 595: {NW} Interviewer: before they had {NS} bathrooms inside they used to have {NS} 595: the outdoor toilet Interviewer: okay 595: {NW} Interviewer: What did they call those? {NS} Aux: {NW} 595: Well Johnny has {X} {NW} We always called it the outdoor toilet Interviewer: uh-huh any other #1 names for it # 595: #2 or the toilet # {NS} Well in slang I reckon it'd be the john. Interviewer: uh-huh anything else? {NS} 595: Not that I know of {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What about a a building that's used for storing wood? {NS} 595: uh well that would be the wood shed I reckon Interviewer: okay {NS} What about tools? {NS} 595: tool shed or tool house {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What different buildings did you have on the farm? {NS} 595: Just a barn {NS} or a crib some call them barns and some cribs {NS} Interviewer: What would you keep in the crib? {NS} 595: corn Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: hay {NS} Interviewer: Where um {NS} in you know that upper part of the barn where you could keep hay you'd call that a 595: the hay loft {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about if you had too much hay to put up in the barn you could leave it outside in a? {NS} 595: uh now let me see I never did uh we would call that a haystack I reckon Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: uh {NS} I guess um a silo would be {NS} a {X} {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: but we never did {NS} I've never seen a silo. {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: Used to be one up here but it {X} I'd never seen one inside Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: but {NS} a crib or a barn {NS} is all we ever called it. {NW} Of course we had cribs and barns too I reckon {NS} but {NS} never a silo Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} When you first cut the hay and you dry it and you rake it up and {NS} in little piles what do you call those those little piles that {NS} you rake it up in? {NS} 595: I don't know about the {NS} about the piles after it's baled Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} well before you bale it what's #1 that called? # 595: #2 I don't know what # they call it {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about um 595: {NW} Yeah grass I reckon {NW} Interviewer: huh? 595: {NW} He said, "grass" I said, "yeah grass I Interviewer: #1 reckon" # 595: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: {NS} um {NS} Did you ever have a special building for storing grain besides a silo did you ever hear {NS} any special place for grain? {NS} 595: #1 Well yes # Aux: #2 {NW} # 595: but I don't #1 they call them grain bins I reckon # Aux: #2 {NW} # {NW} 595: I've seen some but I {NW} really I don't know what they're called Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} #1 Did you ever hear of a granary or a grainery # Aux: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 {NS} # Aux: #2 {NW} # {NW} 595: mm-hmm uh-uh {NS} yeah {NS} I guess that's what you would call them then {NS} there's some down here {NS} below Fayette {NS} that they'd store their corn in. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: and had an opening right at the bottom {NS} so I guess that's that's what it is {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} #1 What does # 595: #2 I haven't seen # them but I don't know #1 it you know? # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # {NS} What different animals did you have on the farm? {NS} 595: little sheep cattle {NS} hogs goats {NS} horses {NS} Interviewer: Where where did you keep the horses? {NS} 595: In the stalls in the {NS} barn Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What about um the cattle? {NS} 595: Well they just {NW} get under the sheds Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Get under the sheds and slept? 595: At the barns Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Did you ever have a um {NS} Where would you turn them out to graze? {NS} 595: The pasture. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Did you ever have little fenced in places of pasture where you could leave one over night for milking? 595: mm-hmm {NS} I had to call that the catch pen. Interviewer: uh-huh 595: {NW} Call that the catch pen. {NS} Interviewer: #1 What about # 595: #2 or a lot # Interviewer: {NS} the or the 595: a lot {NS} Interviewer: Where was the lot? {NS} 595: Well it would be a little pen next to the if the barn had a fence around it {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: well it it would be a smaller place just big enough to hold one or two cows out #1 at night # Interviewer: #2 {NW} the # fenced in place #1 around the barn # 595: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: would be the lot? {NS} 595: uh-huh {NS} But it this would be a little a smaller {NS} pen just {NS} #1 a {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 595: uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What about 595: {NW} Interviewer: the hogs where were they kept? {NS} 595: Well they'd all always kept in a pig pen we called it Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} and um {NS} say if you were {NS} um {NS} raising {NS} tobacco and you didn't have a large area planted you'd say you wouldn't call it a field you'd just call it a {NS} 595: A patch I reckon. Interviewer: okay What sort of things did you grow in a patch? {NS} 595: well {NS} Aux: {NW} {NS} 595: just vegetables I reckon Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} any {NW} you talking about tobacco {NS} patch {NS} any {NS} 595: Hmm let's see now when {NS} truck patches {NS} Interviewer: What's a truck patch? 595: That well that's just what they called a little garden. {D:why} {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh 595: and um well it's {NS} They call that the truck patches I guess because uh what they raised in the truck patches they'd sell that. Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Would they have a special name for the stuff they raised in the truck patches? {NS} 595: {D: mm-mm} {NS} just a vegetables Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} um {NS} What sort of fences did they used to have? {NS} 595: Well as far back as I can remember they called it hog wire. {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: they'd put that down at the bottom post {NS} and put barbed wire on top {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about um {NS} kind of wooden fence {NS} that you could have around your yard or your garden {NS} 595: That was the picket fence {NS} Interviewer: What's that? 595: Picket fences. {NS} Interviewer: How did how are they built? {NS} 595: Well they'd {NW} run from a {NS} board from one post to another and tack that {NS} nail that pickets to the boards. {NS} Interviewer: Were the {NS} pickets pointed up at the top? 595: uh-huh {NS} some were yeah Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: some {NS} Interviewer: They'd need more than {NS} say say if um if you're setting up a barbed wire fence you'd have to dig holes for the {NS} 595: a post {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about a {NS} a fence that would go like this? {NS} {X} 595: Now {NS} yeah I've seen them now what do they call those? {NS} I did {X} Interviewer: {D:she} {NS} 595: aw {NS} Interviewer: Did you ever hear of rail? {NS} 595: #1 mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 fence # or snake fence or {NS} 595: Now that could be what that is {NS} {X} {NS} I guess so if I used Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} you called it a {NS} 595: a radio piece I reckon Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Did you ever see a fence or wall made out of loose stone or rock? {NS} 595: mm-hmm {NS} yeah {NS} Interviewer: What was that? {NS} 595: Uh I don't know unless it's a stone fence Interviewer: uh-huh 595: {D: that's what they're calling now} {NS} there's one out this way not very far from here but that's made of brick {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh 595: which is not stone {NS} Interviewer: and the place um {NS} a farm where they have a lot of milk {NS} cows sell the milk and butter you call that place a 595: dairy Interviewer: uh-huh Did you ever hear that word, "dairy" used to talk about anything besides this commercial farm? 595: huh-uh {NS} Interviewer: Where did y'all used to keep milk and butter before you had refrigerators? {NS} 595: In our safes Interviewer: mm-hmm What was a safe? {NS} 595: um well we put put the dishes on the top shelves {NW} Interviewer: uh-huh 595: and the milk and big old crocks on the bottom Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: on the bottom shelf {NS} Interviewer: Where did people used to keep potatoes or turnips during the winter? {NS} 595: in their cellars or pump the potatoes {NS} Interviewer: or pump? 595: mm-hmm Interviewer: What's that? 595: They'd dig a hole in the ground and put pine straw and dried broom's edge {NS} Interviewer: hmm 595: put the potatoes in that Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: and uh {NS} put some more straw on it Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: Cover it up with dirt {NS} and turn an old tin {D: tub} down over the top of it Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 595: #2 to keep # the water from coming in it Interviewer: and you call that a 595: pump potato pump {NS} Interviewer: um {NS} 595: and I have heard of them {NS} using the same {NS} method to store turnips {NS} Interviewer: hmm 595: {NW} {NS} okay {NS} put {NS} Interviewer: What would you use to milk in? {NS} 595: Well we just had a regular old bucket Interviewer: mm-hmm What was the bucket made out of? {NS} 595: tin I reckon Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Did you ever see one made out of cedar? not for milking it but {NS} for carrying 595: #1 uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 the milk # 595: I've seen them {NS} cedar buckets and that oak {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What's the difference between a bucket and a pail? {NS} 595: I don't know they all be about the same thing Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: or I would classify them same thing {NW} Interviewer: Do people ever use the word pail around here? 595: mm-hmm once in a while {NS} but it's mostly bucket Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What about the thing you could use to carry food out to the hogs in? {NS} 595: Slop buckets is all we ever called it. Interviewer: Okay {NS} and {NS} big thing that you'd have out um {NS} in the yard for {NS} heating up water to boil the clothes in {NS} 595: We called ours our black pot Interviewer: okay {NS} any other name for that? 595: a wash pot Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} and something you could have to heat up water to make hot tea and that has a spout to it and {NS} 595: Well yeah a teapot or tea kettle to heat the water in Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} do you ever use that word kettle to {NS} refer to this wash pot? {NS} 595: sometimes but not often Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} and um {NS} say if you cut some flowers and wanted to keep them in the house you could put them in a {NS} 595: in a vase or a some folks called them a vase Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Who calls it a vase? {NS} 595: Well the proper people Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 595: #2 and I know # country do I'd call it a vase {NS} Interviewer: and say that you're setting the table for everyone to eat with you give everyone a {NS} #1 next to each # 595: #2 a # #1 oh # Interviewer: #2 plate # 595: the forks and spoons {NS} Interviewer: #1 and # 595: #2 or # place setting Interviewer: uh-huh well you have the give everyone a 595: plates and {NS} forks and spoon napkin Interviewer: and to cut their meat with 595: oh yeah and the knives sure Interviewer: huh? 595: a knife {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} um {NS} say you have {NS} give everyone one knife and {NS} one 595: fork {NS} and one spoon Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} and say if you serve steak or something and it wasn't very tender you might have to put out steak {NS} for people cut their meat with steak 595: steak knifes I don't {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} and if the dishes were dirty you'd say, "I have to go" {NS} 595: wash the dishes {NS} Interviewer: and the cloth or rag you use when you're washing them {NS} 595: we always called them the dish cloth {NS} Interviewer: okay What about when you're drying them? {NS} 595: We call them the drying towel Interviewer: What's that? 595: a drying towel Interviewer: uh-huh What about the {NS} piece of cloth around you use to bathe your face with? {NS} 595: wash cloth what we call them {NS} Interviewer: and to dry yourself with {NS} 595: towel {NS} Interviewer: and um {NS} Say I knew she washes the dishes then she what them in clear water {NS} 595: rinse {NS} Interviewer: okay after she washes them then she {NS} say say something after she washes the 595: oh well uh {NS} rinses Interviewer: okay {NS} and say if you were gonna pour something from a big container to something with a narrow mouth {NS} to keep it from spilling out you'd pour it through a {NS} 595: funnel Interviewer: okay {NS} and um {NS} some {NS} something that um maybe fifty pounds of lard would come in you'd call that a {NS} 595: well we'd call it a lard can {NW} Interviewer: what about um do people around here make molasses? {NS} 595: {NW} there's no mill around here that's close by that I know of {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: but {NS} I think there is one down here in Franklin County {NS} Interviewer: that they make 595: make syrup {NS} Interviewer: what's that? 595: they make syrup at that mill {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh What's the difference between syrup and {NS} molasses? {NS} 595: I don't know unless it's just the name I can't tell the difference in it Interviewer: uh-huh What what would you call it? {NS} 595: I'd call it syrup. Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What about um {NS} did you ever hear the name long sweetening or {NS} short sweetening? {NS} 595: {D: huh-uh} I don't reckon {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh 595: I don't recall it {NW} Interviewer: What about black strap {NS} 595: molasses yes I've heard of heard it called black strap molasses yeah Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} Is there a difference in {NS} in the cane they use for black strap and {NS} or do they make black strap from {NS} 595: #1 I really don't know. # Interviewer: #2 cane # 595: {NS} uh well there is a difference but {NS} I don't uh know what the difference could be Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: What I would go by or what I go by is that {NS} different color of the cane Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: What they call the Louisiana cane that's has a purple-ish color to it and uh Interviewer: that's the {X} 595: uh-huh {NS} and uh that other {NS} they call that sorghum Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: and that's a green color {X} {NS} Interviewer: Well if you bought molasses what did it come in? {NS} 595: uh a bucket or a pail Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Did you ever hear of a stand of molasses? 595: mm-mm {NS} a {NS} stand? Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: {D: mm-mm} Interviewer: say it's a {NS} little container that {NS} 595: Oh we'd always call that a syrup pitcher Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} say um {NS} something that flour used to come in was a? {NS} 595: a barrel I guess {D: haven't heard them talk about none} a barrel of flour at the time {NS} Interviewer: What about the things that run around the barrel that hold the wood in place? {NS} 595: um let's see {NS} I don't remember now what they {NS} what they called that {NS} but the wooden pieces are called staves Interviewer: mm-hmm but the metal piece that holds {NS} the wood the staves 595: unless that would be a metal band then I don't know {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh What about hoofs or hoofs? 595: Yeah? What about that they could be called either one Interviewer: called {NS} 595: hooves Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} something smaller than a a barrel that nails used to come in 595: that's a keg Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Did you ever speak of a or hear {NS} of a um {NS} water barrel or water keg? {NS} 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: You know this did that have a little thing on it that you could turn and get the 595: #1 water? # Interviewer: #2 uh-huh # {NS} What would you call that little thing? {NS} 595: faucet I reckon Interviewer: #1 {NS} # Interviewer: #2 what's that? # 595: faucet I reckon Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} what about something um out in the yard that you could {NS} hook your hose up {NS} to and turn and get the water out? 595: uh {X} {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} and {NS} and the kitchen sink what you could turn {NS} 595: um you know {NS} {NW} a tap isn't it? {NS} okay {NS} uh yeah the thing about {NS} that I just I turn the water on {NW} Interviewer: um {NS} 595: um {NS} {X} {NS} Interviewer: Did people around here raise cotton much? {NS} 595: Well some farmers does but {NS} not very {NS} they're few and far between Interviewer: uh-huh 595: now I've been to {X} and that's about all they do {X} cotton {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} Are you familiar with cotton farming at all yourself? 595: {NW} a little bit {NS} Interviewer: You know when they get out there with the {NS} um {NS} hoe and they're going to thin the cotton out they call that {NS} What do they say you're going to 595: {NW} well now I did know {NS} scraping I believe I've heard it called scraping cotton Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} what about 595: thin it out I guess Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: cotton chop it Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} The kind of grass that grows up in your cotton field 595: oh well that's just all kinds Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} any {NS} special kind that comes to mind? {NS} 595: Well Johnson grass coco {NS} Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: crab grass {NS} Interviewer: #1 what about # 595: #2 Bermuda # Interviewer: huh? 595: Bermuda Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} When you're {NS} first going to rake the ground up um {NS} for planting you break it up with a 595: disk {NS} Interviewer: okay what else? 595: a tractor {NS} Well it'd be something that have {NS} Interviewer: #1 {X} # 595: #2 a plow # {NS} would it be a plow? Interviewer: uh-huh {NW} What different kinds of plows did they have? {NS} 595: Well I never did see but {NS} one kind and I'd have a {NS} turning plow and it's what they'd call it cultivated it's {NS} {X} work Aux: {X} {NS} 595: #1 wheat and {X} # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} What about something that has little teeth in it breaks up the ground finer than the plow does? {NS} 595: I don't know what that would be {X} {NS} there's some {NS} {D:hair} Interviewer: uh-huh are there different kinds of {X} {NS} 595: well I never did see but one {NS} and that was um {NS} {X} {NS} {D: had his and} I have heard them called section hairs Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: that's how the {X} that's about all {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} um {NS} When you're plowing then {NS} little trench thing that the plow cuts that's called the {NS} 595: the middle isn't it a furrow Interviewer: okay {NS} um {NS} 595: furrow {NS} when it's {NS} Interviewer: plow with two horses what do you call the one that walks in the front? {NS} 595: the lead one I guess I {NS} {NS} Interviewer: okay {NS} and um {NS} if you're draw any horses and want {NS} to go faster you {NS} can hit them with a 595: reins Interviewer: or it's is the reins what you have when you're driving the horse? 595: mm-hmm {NS} Interviewer: What about when you're riding on a horse? {NS} 595: well that would be the bridle {NS} reins {NS} Interviewer: okay {NS} and um {NS} what your feet are in is the {NS} 595: when you ride then you feet would be in the stirrups Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: that's {NS} Interviewer: just a second {NS} 595: think it's on {NS} Interviewer: try to just figure out {X} 595: alright Interviewer: if you don't mind {NS} um {NS} say if you have a horse hitched to a {NS} a buggy {NS} you the thing you could hit them with 595: a horse whip Interviewer: okay {NS} and {NS} if the {D:ramp} on the porch wasn't burning you might have to screw in a new 595: bulb Interviewer: okay {NS} and um if you carried the wash out to hang it on the line you could carry it out in a clothes 595: basket {NS} Interviewer: And say if you opened a bottle then wanted to close it back up so the liquid wouldn't spill out you could stick in a {NS} 595: cork Interviewer: okay {NS} say if you um {NS} went and bought some apples at the store the grocer would probably put them in a {NS} 595: bag {NS} Interviewer: made out of 595: paper a paper bag Interviewer: uh-huh what about something that um say fifty pounds of flour used to come in {NS} 595: a sack or a barrel Interviewer: #1 okay # 595: #2 half barrel # Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 595: I don't recall what that was {X} called Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} what about the kind of bag or sack that feed would come in? {NS} 595: we'd call those grass sacks Interviewer: mm-hmm any other name for that? {NS} 595: feed sack {NS} yeah {X} Interviewer: uh-huh 595: feed sacks Interviewer: what about croker sack or tow sack 595: {NW} #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 {X} sack # 595: {NS} uh-huh {D:that} {NW} croker or gunny Interviewer: uh-huh is is that what you used to hear it called? 595: uh-huh {NS} sure have heard 'em called that Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} say if um 595: {NW} Interviewer: #1 the amount of corn that you could take to the mill to be ground # Aux: #2 {X} # 595: shh #1 shh # Interviewer: #2 the amount that you would take at one time # you could call that a 595: #1 usually a peck # Aux: #2 {X} # Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # Aux: #2 {X} # {NW} Interviewer: Do you ever hear any expression referring just to the the amount though? {NS} 595: {D: mm-mm} {NS} I don't think so {NS} Interviewer: what if you went out and got all of the wood you could carry in both your arms you'd say {NS} you had a 595: arm load Interviewer: okay {NS} did you ever hear a turns the turn point or turn of wood? {NS} 595: mm-mm I've heard of cords {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh 595: a cord of wood Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} what about um say a wagon that didn't have a full load you'd say he just had a {NS} 595: a half load Interviewer: okay {NS} and {NS} this is something that {NS} children who'd play with {X} would {NS} well a musical instrument you blow on 595: harmonica {NS} Interviewer: any other name for that? 595: harp Interviewer: uh-huh what about the one that goes {NS} like this? 595: that's a Jew's harp {NW} Interviewer: okay 595: {NW} {NS} Interviewer: and {NS} on the talking about the wheels of the wagon {NS} the thing that {NS} connects one wheel to the other is called the {NS} {NS} 595: axle isn't it? Interviewer: okay {NS} and {NS} starting with the inside of the wheel you'd have the hub Aux: {X} #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 and the spokes would come out and they'd fit into the # Aux: {NW} 595: #1 now I don't know what you # Aux: #2 {X} # 595: call that but I know what you're talking about Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} what different parts of the wheel are there? {NS} 595: just the spokes {NS} and the hub is all Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} 595: the rim Interviewer: what's the rim made out of? {NS} 595: steel I guess Interviewer: uh-huh What about the wooden piece that the rim goes over? {NS} #1 you ever hear # 595: #2 I don't know what # what you call that Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} say a man had a load of wood he was {NS} driving along you'd say that he was {NS} 595: hauling wood Interviewer: okay {NS} and if you have a wagon and two horses did somebody {X}? 595: mm-mm I don't think so {NS] Interviewer: the long wooden piece between the horses {NS} 595: oh that's the wagon tongue Interviewer: okay what about with a buggy you have the {NS} 595: well now let me see I don't remember what they called that Interviewer: do you know the wooden pieces that come 595: uh-huh {NS} I don't remember now what they did call that {NS} Interviewer: {X} {NS} 595: I don't really remember Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} what about um {NS} the thing that the traces hook on to? {NS} the bar of wood {NS} 595: uh {NS} singletree Interviewer: okay and if you have two horses then you have a 595: doubletree {NS} Interviewer: and say that there was a log across the road you'd say I tied the chain to it and I what it out of the way? 595: pulled it out of the way Interviewer: or another word you could use besides pull you could say I {NS} 595: drug it out Interviewer: okay you say we have what many logs out of the road {NS} 595: pull would be about all I'd say {NW} Interviewer: or using that other word you could say we have {NS} 595: dragged them out Interviewer: okay and you have to tie a chain around the log if you want to {NS} what it out 595: drag it {NS} Interviewer: what's that? 595: drag it Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} something that um {NS} you could use for {NS} laying a log in if you wanted to chop the log you could use set it in an egg shaped frame you know take two boards and cross them like that set the log in that you did you ever see one of those? {NS} 595: I don't guess Interviewer: uh-huh 595: I don't recall Interviewer: What about something you could use for um {NS} you wanted to saw some {NS} boards {NS} something you could a wooden frame you could set the boards across on looks sort of like that Aux: {NW} 595: We'd call those saw horses Interviewer: okay {NS} and Aux: {NW} Interviewer: what you put in a pistol {NS} 595: a bullet cartridge Interviewer: okay {NS} and so you'd straighten your hair using a comb and a {NS} 595: brush Interviewer: and if you were going to use that you'd say you were going to {NS} 595: brush my wig Interviewer: huh? 595: brush my wig {NW} Interviewer: okay 595: {NW} Interviewer: and um {NS} something that you could use {NS} um if you were going to move bricks or something heavy like that it's got one wheel in front and 595: wheelbarrow Interviewer: okay {NS} and um the thing that runs from the stove up to the chimney {NS} 595: stove pipes {NS} Interviewer: What did you use to carry coal in? {NS} 595: We never did {NS} Interviewer: You never burned coal? 595: huh-uh {NS} Interviewer: um {NS} the thing that people drive nowadays you'd call that a 595: automobile {NS} Interviewer: #1 or a # 595: #2 car # Interviewer: huh? 595: car Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} and if something was squeaking to lubricate it you'd say you had to 595: {NS} oil it {NS} Interviewer: or {NS} if you put that hard stuff on 595: grease {NS} Interviewer: yeah you'd say you have to 595: grease it {NS} Interviewer: and yesterday he 595: greased it {NW} Interviewer: and if grease got all over your hands you'd say your hands were all {NS} 595: greasy {NS} Interviewer: and um {NS} inside the tire of a car you'd {NS} have the inner 595: tube {NS} Interviewer: and if a door was squeaking you could put a few drops of 595: oil on it {NS} Interviewer: and say someone had just built a boat and they were going to put it in the water for the {NS} first time you'd say they were going to? {NS} 595: now and then {NS} I would say put it afloat Interviewer: okay {NS} What different kinds of boats did people used to have around here? {NS} 595: well now motor boats would be about all Aux: {NW} Interviewer: What about wood #1 boats # 595: #2 {X} # Aux: {X} Interviewer: people used to have say if they were going to go fishing or something {NS} 595: well {NS} they just call them boats and motors {NS} Interviewer: okay {NS} did you ever hear of a a {D:bath tow} or a pea row? {NS} 595: {NW} {NS} Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} something that um {NS} you could sharpen {NS} a straight razor on a leather 595: strip or stripe Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} how did people use it what did they use to call that? {NS} 595: they'd hone their razor Interviewer: uh-huh 595: {NW} they had {NS} to do it {NS} Interviewer: what what about something that was used for sharpening a knife on? {NS} 595: Well now what do they call those things? {NS} a wet rock isn't it? Interviewer: mm-hmm and something bigger they can use for an ax maybe? {NS} {D:could} turn around {NS} big old thing 595: oh aw {NS} I know what that is {NS} an Emory wheel isn't it? Interviewer: well bigger than that {NS} is a {D:grind} {NS} did you ever hear of grind? {NS} 595: #1 huh-uh I don't reckon so # Interviewer: #2 grind stone or a {X} rock # 595: {NS} I don't guess so Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} something that um {NS} children {NS} will play on you take a board and {NS} 595: see-saw {NW} a see-saw Interviewer: uh-huh if you saw some children playing on that you'd say they were 595: see-sawing Interviewer: any old fashioned name for see-saw? {NS} 595: not that I know of Interviewer: mm-hmm What about something that'd spin around and around? {NS} 595: uh we'd always called that the merry go round Interviewer: any other name for that? 595: mm-mm {NS} Interviewer: and um {NS} even if you make it at home {NS} just taking a board and {NS} 595: that's that's all we ever called it they may have another name for it but I don't remember I don't know what it'd be Interviewer: yeah what about um {NS} Did you ever hear of taking a board and fixing it down on both ends and children would jump on it? {NS} 595: What is it Belinda? {NW} Aux: I heard of it 595: Whatcha call it? Aux 2: {X} Aux: no {X} 595: I don't know what it is though {NS} Aux: I know. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of {D:joclin} board or? Aux: #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 anything # like that? 595: mm-mm {NS} Interviewer: What about um {NS} you say you tie a long rope to a tree limb and put a seat on it and make a 595: a swing {NS} Interviewer: and something that um people used to burn in lamps would be {NS} 595: coal oil {NS} {NW} {NS} Interviewer: any other name for that? {NS} 595: kerosene Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} did you ever hear of anybody um hear of anybody making a lamp using a rag and a bottle and some kerosene? {NS} 595: mm-hmm {NS} {NW} some some people would call them flares now that Interviewer: mm-hmm 595: then I guess they would use them for a light Interviewer: mm-hmm how would they make it? {NS} 595: I don't know I {NS} I've never seen Aux: {NW} 595: {X} I'd always think it would blow up Interviewer: {NW} 595: so {NS} I never have seen one like that Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} say if a child was just learning to dress himself the mother would bring him the clothes and tell him well now here's {NS} your clothes here {NS} 595: I tell him to just get dressed or try it {NW} Interviewer: or you hand him and the clothes and say 595: get dressed Interviewer: or here {NS} what your clothes here 595: here are your clothes {D: yeah} Interviewer: okay {NS} and say if a {NS} child was going to the dentist he was scared the dentist might tell him there's no need for you to be scared I {NS} what gonna hurt you 595: he wouldn't hurt Interviewer: huh? 595: he wouldn't hurt say I'm not going to hurt you Interviewer: okay and {NS} say if um If I asked you was that you I saw in town yesterday you'd say no it 595: wasn't me {NS} Interviewer: and if a woman wanted to buy a dress of a certain color she'd take along a little square cloth to use as a {NS} 595: sample I guess {NS} Interviewer: any something that you might wear over your dress in the kitchen 595: apron {NS} Interviewer: and to sign your name in ink you'd use a {NS} 595: pen {NS} Interviewer: and to hold a baby's diaper in place? {NS} 595: safety pin {NS} Interviewer: and a dime is worth? {NS} 595: ten cents Interviewer: and if it was real cold before you went outside you'd put on your 595: coat {NS} Interviewer: What would a man wear to church on Sunday? {NS} 595: a suit {NS} Interviewer: okay do you remember when they had a three piece suit? Aux: {NW} 595: uh-huh {NS} Interviewer: What would that be? 595: vest Interviewer: uh-huh 595: coat trousers and vest Interviewer: okay Any other name for trousers? {NS} 595: pants or slacks Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} What about something that a man might wear if he was working out around the barn? {NS}