Interviewer 1:  Thinking about all the insides of a pig or a calf {D: um do ever hear that called haslet or}
596:  #1 Yes Yes ma'am #
Interviewer 1:  #2 {D: harslet or. Which do they call it?} #
596:  Yeah that's right. {D: Well they call 'em the haslets.}
Interviewer 1:  Now what that refer to? What parts?
596:  Well some folks uh take it and uh take the liver some parts of the liver and before folks start quit eating the uh whatcha call it the lights they'd use that but they don't eat them now actually
Interviewer 1:  Those were the lungs
596:  Yes ma'am Don't eat them now but use to eat them and the liver and piece it together someway another {D: it make that way for the haslet style}
Interviewer 1:  Did they ever eat the lungs of a calf?
596:  No No
Interviewer 1:  They only ate the #1 lights #
596:  #2 No #
Interviewer 1:  of the hog
596:  of a hog yeah
Interviewer 1:  I see
596:  and they stopped 'em from eating that which I think is right they oughta do that
Interviewer 1:  really?
596:  Yes ma'am I think that's-
Interviewer 1:  Why is that I wonder I never ate-
596:  Well they say it's in any event any disease by the hog at all say starts in his lungs
Interviewer 1:  oh really?
596:  yeah say it starts in his lungs
Interviewer 1:  I see Did you ever eat any chitlins?
596:  Yes ma'am
Interviewer 1:  Are they good?
596:  They good yeah
Interviewer 1:  I always-
596:  when somebody else fix 'em and clean 'em.
Interviewer 1:  {NW} Somebody told me you could buy them in the grocery store.
596:  Yeah I know but somebody had to clean them then. You can buy 'em and you can buy 'em in grocery stores, but still somebody had to work to clean them things but I say if I had to clean them I just
Interviewer 1:  you'd just soon not.
596:  No just would not and throw 'em all away.
Interviewer 1:  {NW} Um if it's time to feed the stock and do your chores you say- your talking about what time it is you say it's getting on toward
596:  feeding time
Interviewer 1:  Okay. That's about what time of day?
596:  Well uh on the farm like you say we sit around and talk well it's getting feeding time because late evening. Well maybe if the days is short it must be only about five o clock or something like that but if the days is long, maybe it's about seven o clock or something like that because it's feeding time. You get up and go feed
Interviewer 1:  Okay what is um the time of day of evening? Now when would you-when would you just kind of roughly say that evening begins? Well af-after twelve oh clock
596:  #1 we say after-yeah afternoon #
Interviewer 1:  #2 afternoon you mean #
596:  well the evening starts.
Interviewer 1:  When is afternoon then? Ya know when you say it's in the afternoon?
596:  In the afternoon right after you done eat dinner we call it after twelve o clock
Interviewer 1:  Okay then would afternoon and evening be the same thing?
596:  Yes ma'am Afternoon it's since it's afternoon.
Interviewer 1:  Okay and then you could say one oh clock would be in the evening too?
596:  yeah and you say one oh clock in the evening then say well it was in the afternoon what time about in the afternoon well about one or two oh clock or something like that maybe three
Interviewer 1:  I see so-
596:  but it's in the afternoon.
Interviewer 1:  Uh would six oh clock be in the evening?
596:  Well yes that's still in the evening that's not night yet.
Interviewer 1:  Alright now evening goes right up to night?
596:  Right up to night yeah
Interviewer 1:  and when does night start?
596:  Well in the short I mean when the days are short, uh night can start as long by six oh clock but when the day is long night as long as seven or eight oh clock before night starts.
Interviewer 1:  Okay so it depends on when it gets dark?
596:  that's right.
Interviewer 1:  I see and then when would you say um when would you say morning starts then?
596:  Well I mean about after daylight after-after a while by break of day daylight something like that morning starts morning. Well of course you know morning starts anytime after twelve oh clock at night
Interviewer 1:  Mm-hmm
596:  that's when it starts in the morning.
Interviewer 1:  Oh when you use the term?
596:  #1 Well we start #
Interviewer 1:  #2 would you say #
596:  We start at because we usually get up around there. After we get up in the early morning we call that the morning ya know but still we done start a lot of times before we get up
Interviewer 1:  Oh yeah What time do you wake up in the morning?
596:  Well I don't know I generally wake up around about five o clock or something. Sometimes I wake-I don't get up at the time I wake up sometimes.
Interviewer 1:  And that's why I was asking ya know they're two different things #1 aren't they?
 {laughing} #
596:  #2 Yes ma'am yeah # Sometimes I don't get up when I wake up I just just fool around I just don't get up If I got something to do and I'll get up
Interviewer 1:  oh yeah
596:  but if I ain't well I just fool around and won't get up.
Interviewer 1:  Alright then if your using talking about saying wake up ya know and then get up
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  If your wife was still asleep after you woke up, you'd do what to her? You'd say I'd go
596:  Well maybe I tell her wife you better wake up {X} you got enough sleep yet or something like that. {NW}
Interviewer 1:  In other words you'd wake her up #1 right? #
596:  #2 yeah # that's right
Interviewer 1:  Okay one call that I missed a couple of calls here when we talk about how you call things
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  How would you call a calf?
596:  calf? called a soo calf soo calf soo calf yeah like that?
Interviewer 1:  And um what do you say to mules or horses to make them turn right or left when you're plowing?
596:  Well I wanna go right, I tell 'em gee. Wanna go left tell 'em haw. yeah that's I say plow
Interviewer 1:  How do ya tell 'em to back up when you're plowing?
596:  Well back up, I'll get on Hal I be pulling on him out there {NW} Yay! Yay! Yay! means back up
Interviewer 1:  #1 Oh #
596:  #2 Going yay! #
Interviewer 1:  #1 Yay? #
596:  #2 That means back up #
Interviewer 1:  Ah How do you tell 'em to stop?
596:  Whoa
Interviewer 1:  I see
596:  Whoa
Interviewer 1:  Whoa Um how do you get 'em to start?
596:  Come up!
Interviewer 1:  Come up?
596:  Yeah
Interviewer 1:  Alright suppose you want 'em to go a little faster
596:  Well you can Come up! You just gonna flash them with your line ya know maybe sort of flash them or or if you got a whip sort of wave the whip at 'em or sort of touch them with the whip something like that he know what you mean.
Interviewer 1:  He got the picture {C: laughing}
596:  {X} {NW}
Interviewer 1:  Do you ever- If y'all around here do you ever cluck to 'em?
596:  yes ma'am you click-yes we cluck to 'em
Interviewer 1:  #1 Say #
596:  #2 That's right. #
Interviewer 1:  #1 {NW} or what? #
596:  #2 {NW} # #1 Come up! yeah like that. #
Interviewer 1:  #2 I see #
596:  Well it's Sometime he drag around don't wanna go and you gotta holler at him and make him move up
Interviewer 1:  Oh do you?
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Do you ever plow with the lines around your neck
596:  No I they didn't practice that
Interviewer 1:  That seems like kind of dangerous doesn't it?
596:  Oh it's too dangerous Yeah you got a mean animal he taking over the run Uh-uh he might
Interviewer 1:  Did you ever have one that took off from you?
596:  Yes ma'am I've had all kinds yeah I use to didn't {X} If I did have one it was practice wanting to go and all like that I learned better than that
Interviewer 1:  You did?
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Um where-where do you put your lines when your plowing?
596:  Well I have my lines on my hands you see have a loop in the lines me working in my hands and {X} as I plow
Interviewer 1:  #1 I see so you think #
596:  #2 That's right #
Interviewer 1:  you could let your hands slip out of 'em?
596:  oh yeah anytime I got ready let my hands slip out
Interviewer 1:  I see
596:  that's right
Interviewer 1:  Um If you want to get your horses ready to plow you say your going out to do what to them?
596:  {D: I'm going out there to feed 'em or curr 'em.}
Interviewer 1:  talking about putting the stuff on you know the lines oh 'em
596:  Oh putting my harnesses on 'em
Interviewer 1:  Alright now you say you're going to do what to 'em?
596:  Yeah well I'd harness up my animals go go out to catch my animals and put the harness on 'em
Interviewer 1:  Now that's to plow
596:  That's for plowing or used for wagon
Interviewer 1:  #1 for wagon? #
596:  #2 for a wagon #
Interviewer 1:  Either one?
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  Do you ever use the term gear 'em up?
596:  Yes but I gear 'em up that's the same thing.
Interviewer 1:  That's the same thing? Would that-would you say gear 'em up if you were gonna hitch them to a wagon?
596:  Well no that more sounds like you go hitch them to a plow.
Interviewer 1:  #1 Ah that's what I'm driving at your getting the picture there in a hurry {C:laughing}. #
596:  #2 Yeah. yeah. yeah. # That's right.
Interviewer 1:  Alright um if you are driving the horse on a wagon what do you hold on to? {C: something knocking against wood}
596:  Uh driving a horse on wagon?
Interviewer 1:  Mm-hmm
596:  I hold the line that's about all I'm driving the wagon-
Interviewer 1:  Alright, when I say lines what are line made of?
596:  Well sometime you got plow lines and if you plowing, you got cotton lines
Interviewer 1:  Cotton lines?
596:  cotton lines you plow. Course now you driving a wagon you got leather lines #1 you see #
Interviewer 1:  #2 I see #
596:  you got leather lines.
Interviewer 1:  If you're riding a horse what do you hold onto?
596:  Well you got the rein, bridle rein.
Interviewer 1:  Alright
596:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Uh # you put your feet in the what?
596:  Stirrup
Interviewer 1:  Um If something is not right near at hand you'd say its just a what down the road just a little
596:  just a little piece down the road.
Interviewer 1:  Alright {C: laughing} Is that any special distance?
596:  No Not no certain distance just-just a little piece down the road
Interviewer 1:  Okay can you say that it if you're talking about that it's pretty far or something's pretty far away {C: vehicle passing}
596:  Yes
Interviewer 1:  say that's a f- {C: vehicle passing}
596:  Well they say that's well that's about a quarter from here or half a mile or
Interviewer 1:  Would you ever say a far piece or a fur piece?
596:  No we never did use that word
Interviewer 1:  That-that-when you say piece though it really means small
596:  yes ma'am that's right just a piece not none no maybe a couple a couple hundred yards you say something like that
Interviewer 1:  I see Okay if something if you're looking to buy something and you could-you don't have to go any special place every store would have it
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  you can say ah you'll find that just in any
596:  Yeah just any of these stores you'll find that.
Interviewer 1:  or just anywhere
596:  anywhere you'll find that just anywhere.
Interviewer 1:  Alright If someone falls and they fall this way ya know back this way, say he fell back
596:  yeah mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  How-how what would you say he fell?
596:  He fell backwards.
Interviewer 1:  Okay or he fell
596:  forwards
Interviewer 1:  Okay ever hear people say frontwards?
596:  No not so much you say forwards.
Interviewer 1:  Alright that's fine Um Thinking about farmland, ya know if you have uh- if you got rid of all the brush and the trees you say you did what to the land?
596:  I cleaned it up. #1 yeah yeah #
Interviewer 1:  #2 alright # Do you ever say cleared?
596:  Cleared up well that's right cleared up clean up thats about the same thing.
Interviewer 1:  Okay I'm just interested in what you #1 would say that's all or if you've heard #
596:  #2 Yes ma'am yes ma'am that's right. #
Interviewer 1:  #1 people say #
596:  #2 That's right #
Interviewer 1:  Uh what would you call a old dried dead grass that's left over on the ground in the spring? Ya know after you mow I guess when do you mow in the fall. #1 fall? #
596:  #2 yeah # uh-huh
Interviewer 1:  Uh you have something leftover sometimes on the ground in the spring, what would you call that?
596:  We'd call it some dead grass.
Interviewer 1:  You ever call that the second cutting?
596:  That's right yeah
Interviewer 1:  Have you heard that?
596:  yes
Interviewer 1:  Would you be likely to say it?
596:  yes um second cutting of old grass.
Interviewer 1:  Okay they ever grow wheat around here?
596:  No they didn't grow no wheat in this part of the country.
Interviewer 1:  Alright would you happen by any chance to know what wheat's tied up into when you cut it??
596:  bundles
Interviewer 1:  Okay you do know
596:  #1 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  #2 about wheat #
596:  #1 well I know-I know about what it #
Interviewer 1:  #2 {NW} #
596:  oughta-oughta be done how it was done but I didn't never seen no-
Interviewer 1:  but you never did grow any
596:  no never did grow none.
Interviewer 1:  Uh then you gather the bundles into what?
596:  um after you gather the bundles I guess into the reaper I reckon.
Interviewer 1:  Okay
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Ever grow any oats around here?
596:  Yes we grow oats around here long time
Interviewer 1:  What do you do with oats after it's grown? Do what to it?
596:  Beat 'em and take 'em and cut 'em where they harvest 'em and uh and uh course you put 'em in bundles like that yeah.
Interviewer 1:  Um oats is-oats-you did what to oats to get the grains away from-
596:  Well ya thrash 'em yes ma'am thrash oats
Interviewer 1:  alright um {NW} Comparing how tall you are to somebody else you'll say well he's not as tall-
596:  No he's not as tall as I am but he's-he's a tall person but I don't think he's quite as quite as tall as me something like that
Interviewer 1:  Okay if you compare again you'd say on the other hand I'm not as tall as
596:  Nah I'm not as tall as he is.
Interviewer 1:  Okay
596:  he's taller man than I am
Interviewer 1:  If a man has been running for two miles and then he had to stop, you'd say well two miles is as he could go.
596:  Mm-hmm that's two miles as far as he could go.
Interviewer 1:  #1 Okay fine #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  Uh comparing how well you can do something
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  you say well he can do it better than
596:  better than I can! yeah
Interviewer 1:  If something belongs to me and I say whose book is this,
596:  mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  you'd say it's
596:  yours
Interviewer 1:  alright or if it belongs to your wife you'd say it's
596:  it's hers
Interviewer 1:  or a man it's
596:  that's his
Interviewer 1:  or two people it's
596:  both of 'em
Interviewer 1:  {NW} both of them {C: laughing} {C: pounding in background} {NW} {C: pounding in background} You're sneaky {C: laughing} {C: pounding in background} Alright when people had been to visit you {C: pounding in background} and they're about to leave you might s-what might you say to them?
596:  Come back!
Interviewer 1:  Alright or something else you might say.
596:  Yeah come again yeah something like that I enjoyed ya something like that.
Interviewer 1:  Alright you ever-would you ever say y'all come back?
596:  Yes ma'am that's right that's right.
Interviewer 1:  How would you say that?
596:  Y'all-I just say y'all come again when you feel like it.
Interviewer 1:  Alright {C: laughing} alright now would I-I'm what I'm of course exploring here is how we use that term y'all
596:  I say you-
Interviewer 1:  ya know #1 is that #
596:  #2 I say #
Interviewer 1:  would you ever say that just to one person?
596:  No I mean that if there's two I say you all if there's one I just say well you come back again when you feel like
Interviewer 1:  Okay you wouldn't-they always accuse us of using that for one person we only use it for more than that.
596:  That's right that's right yes.
Interviewer 1:  Alright if um if you had several people who came to visit you that had coats you know and they maybe left 'em inside on the bed,
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  would this sound right to you to say where are you all's coats?
596:  No well #1 if there's more than one, #
Interviewer 1:  #2 y'all's coats? # Uh huh if there's more than one
596:  I'd say well I-I-I might ask them that where are you all's coats?.
Interviewer 1:  Okay so it would be possible #1 to use it #
596:  #2 yes #
Interviewer 1:  that way
596:  yes ma'am
Interviewer 1:  Um then if you were talking about people at church you know and maybe your wife went and you didn't,
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  would it sound right to you to say who all was there?
596:  Well well-
Interviewer 1:  Who all was at church this morning?
596:  Well I wouldn't say who all was there I'd say is there any special person I wanna know about that was sitting in church this morning
Interviewer 1:  Okay
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Um would the expression who all's children were there sound right to you?
596:  Well no I wouldn't say it like that who all's children-
Interviewer 1:  you wouldn't say that?
596:  No
Interviewer 1:  Alright uh talking about what the preacher was saying,
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  would you ever ask anybody what all did he have to say? No I wouldn't ask that {X}
596:  You can think about what all he said unless there was a tape recorder.
Interviewer 1:  Okay thanks. If no one else will look out for them, you say they've gotta look out for
596:  for themselves.
Interviewer 1:  And if no one else will do it for 'em, you say he better do it
596:  better do it for himself better do it hisself.
Interviewer 1:  okay What kind of bread is made of flower and and baked in loaves?
596:  um We call it light bread
Interviewer 1:  #1 alright #
596:  #2 wheat bread. #
Interviewer 1:  Sir?
596:  Wheat bread we call it yes.
Interviewer 1:  Which would you say?
596:  I call it light bread.
Interviewer 1:  That's what I call it too. {NW} Uh what other kinds of bread do you think of that are made from flour?
596:  Well I-well I-I don't know.
Interviewer 1:  You might-your wife might bake a pan of
596:  Well cake you talking about cake?
Interviewer 1:  No I'm thinking about bread #1 really, not cakes. #
596:  #2 Bread? #
Interviewer 1:  She might bake a pan of what for #1 breakfast? #
596:  #2 Biscuits! # #1 Oh yeah biscuit! #
Interviewer 1:  #2 {NW} #
Auxiliary:  {X}
596:  She- I almost thought about that because that what she do all the time.
Interviewer 1:  Ah you a biscuit maker?
596:  #1 Ah she makes biscuits. #
Auxiliary:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer 1:  #1 Does he? #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  Can you make biscuits Mr.- {B}
596:  Yes ma'am I can 'em but I'd hate to do it ya know #1 but I can. #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Really? #
596:  I just hate I would hate to {X} but she can-she can just ya know right now make 'em right now.
Interviewer 1:  Ah
596:  Yeah
Interviewer 1:  What do you bake in a large cake that's made out of cornmeal?
596:  Uh a large cake that we- folks used to call it griddle cake.
Interviewer 1:  Griddle cake?
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Now how do you ma-make those? Are those a fried on a griddle or
596:  I don't know they call it griddle cake but I don't know how that's done.
Interviewer 1:  There's something else you make out of cornmeal that we eat a lot of.
596:  Oh cornbread.
Interviewer 1:  Alright now what-how is it made?
596:  Well cornbread w-well it's made ya take your meal you course-you take your meal ya sift ya meal. Maybe you uh scald it and put a little milk in it salt, or bacon {D:parts} or whatever you gonna do egg in it or whatever you gonna wherever you wanna fix it. Well then stir it all up and put it in your skillet in your bake oven whatever you gonna bake it in. I-I use a skillet.
Interviewer 1:  Do you make cornbread?
596:  Yes ma'am I make cornbread. #1 Pour a little #
596:  #2 Ah ha! # grease in the bottom of the skillet ya know and and
Auxiliary:  #1 {X} #
596:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer 1:  He can't what? {C: laughing} #1 What are you giggling about? {C:laughing} #
Auxiliary:  #2 {X} # so well {NW}
Interviewer 1:  I noticed you were giggling over here in the background at his description {C: laughing}. {NW}
Auxiliary:  He can make good bread but he can't {X} {NW} Oh Lordy
Interviewer 1:  {NW} But you bake it right?
596:  I bake it.
Interviewer 1:  Ah!
596:  I just throw on about three hundred or something like that {NW}
Interviewer 1:  Do ya always put an egg in it?
596:  No you don't have to put egg in it, you don't have to.
Interviewer 1:  If you don't put an egg in it do you still call it cornbread?
596:  Yes ma'am right on.
Interviewer 1:  Do you ever hear that called hot water bread?
596:  Yes ma'am I've heard that.
Interviewer 1:  Is that the same as what I'm talking about?
596:  Well it's pretty way of The hot water you use that to keep 'em so it won't be so crumbly when you get it cooked.
Interviewer 1:  Alright in that case you-the liquid you put in is hot water
596:  Yes ma'am That's right
Interviewer 1:  I see Uh ever hear of any kind of cornbread that you baked in the ashes?
596:  Yes that's right.
Interviewer 1:  It have a name?
596:  yes ma'am ash bread
Interviewer 1:  ash bread?
596:  yeah that's right
Interviewer 1:  Um the-is there any kind that um Oh let me find out this though, you cook yours round in a #1 skillet right? #
596:  #2 Yes ma'am. That's right. #
Interviewer 1:  {D: Alright now do you call that a pong? What's a pong?}
596:  {D: Well that's what a pong, it's a pong or you cook it in} {D: in ya know in a square pan it can be a pong but-}
Interviewer 1:  {D: That can be a pong?}
596:  {D: Yeah but ya-any kind of thing you cook it in, it could be a pong.}
Interviewer 1:  Oh
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  {D: A pong just means that it refers to the whole big piece.}
596:  That's right.
Interviewer 1:  Did you ever #1 make cornbread #
596:  #2 {D:corn of bread} #
Interviewer 1:  between your hands like this and either fried or bake it?
596:  I've seen it like that. I've seen folk cook it like that.
Interviewer 1:  Would that be called anything different?
596:  No I reckon not I don't know just {NS}
Interviewer 1:  #1 Okay #
596:  #2 bread. #
Interviewer 1:  Um there's a kind of bread that's made with cornmeal that they put onion in and maybe some green peppers #1 but they fry it #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  in fish grease.
596:  yeah mm-hmm Well I don't know people use to call that- ol' folk call that cush something like that.
Interviewer 1:  Cush?
596:  cush
Interviewer 1:  I wanna ask you about cush. {NW} Um th-that's wh-what how do you make cush? #1 What does it look like? Is it- #
596:  #2 I don't know I-I-I #
Interviewer 1:  Does it look like bread or does it look like cereal?
596:  Well it looks like- it looks sorta like cereal something like that.
Interviewer 1:  Now if you took #1 cornbread #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  and you put it ya know in a pot
596:  #1 with water and you stirred it around- #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm # cornmeal right?
596:  Yes ma'am
Interviewer 1:  'til it got kind of thick,
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  what would that be called?
596:  That'd be called-call that gruel they use to call it.
Interviewer 1:  Gruel, suppose it was thicker than #1 gruel. #
596:  #2 yes # that's right
Interviewer 1:  Suppose it got real thick like oatmeal.
596:  well yes ma'am I don't know. What else you all it?
Interviewer 1:  They ever call that mush?
596:  Yes mush or something like that.
Interviewer 1:  Alright mush?
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Um then cush doesn't look like mush.
596:  no
Interviewer 1:  Okay it looks like
596:  I didn't know how they made it ya know but
Interviewer 1:  What did it look like I guess when you saw it? Just
596:  Well you know cush and dressing what you call dressing
Interviewer 1:  yeah
596:  that's about the same thing #1 just about it #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Ah #
596:  Yeah. They're about the same. They cook-they fixed about alike
Interviewer 1:  Now Mrs. {B} down here mentioned that #1 and she said #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  that as she remembered that it was something like maybe crumbled up cornbread and you add something some seasons to it and then add water or #1 some kind of liquid #
596:  #2 well that- #
Interviewer 1:  and bake it.
596:  That's right.
Interviewer 1:  #1 Now does that kind of sound like what your thinking like. #
596:  #2 That's right yes yes ma'am that's right. # Yeah that way they make dressing {X}
Interviewer 1:  Yeah
596:  They would call it dressing yeah.
Interviewer 1:  Right okay good. Uh what I was thinking of a minute ago was hush puppies.
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  Have you ever had hush-made hush puppies?
596:  No no I have probably seen them but I don't- I don't know how they're made no sure don't.
Interviewer 1:  Okay there's something else that I'll question about that you make probably with cornmeal
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  and you put down in with greens to cook 'em there put 'em in little bags #1 sometimes. #
596:  #2 Yes I've heard # talk of that too I sure heard talk about- but I never seen none of it. In all my days coming up never did eat none of 'em.
Interviewer 1:  You don't know what they were called?
596:  No I sure don't
Interviewer 1:  Is that-what about when I say dumplings, what do you think of?
596:  Well I hear-well I dumplings course now you can make that out of flour.
Interviewer 1:  #1 yeah now that is #
596:  #2 Now in this day and and time #
Interviewer 1:  I was gonna ask
596:  #1 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  #2 was # that flower? Well I used to hear my-my parents talk about meal dumplings and I asked them how did they do it they say like you said while ago ya put 'em in little bags or somehow another and cook it somehow or another I don't know how they done it
596:  #1 but I hear 'em talk about it. #
Auxiliary:  #2 {X} #
596:  Meal dumplings but I never did eat none.
Interviewer 1:  Have you eaten the flower dumplings?
596:  Yes ma'am {X}
Interviewer 1:  Now how-what are they cooked with?
596:  Well if you going with chicken uh #1 uh maybe #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Did they #
596:  #1 uh fresh backbone #
Interviewer 1:  #2 you just drop that in regular- #
596:  or something like that.
Interviewer 1:  If you're gonna drop that in-you drop it into the-the liquid you don't put it in bags?
596:  No ma'am. No ma'am. You just make that out-make your dough up you know make it out of whatever you know and cut them little blocks and take it up while its-while its cooking you take a little block and drop it in there ya know and time to get another piece {D: that hasn't cooked} like {NW}
Interviewer 1:  yeah I-I know what you're talking about. My mother cooked them but {C: others laughing in background} #1 she made hers #
596:  #2 that's right #
Interviewer 1:  she made hers #1 with flour #
596:  #2 and don't and-and # and-and don't ever stir 'em #1 Don't stir 'em #
Interviewer 1:  #2 No! #
596:  #1 {D: due to their} #
Interviewer 1:  #2 {X} #
596:  due to their stickiness stick or lump up or something like that.
Interviewer 1:  I tried to make 'em one time
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  and mine were like glue.
596:  #1 What?{C:while laughing} #
Interviewer 1:  #2 You know # you bit into 'em and they stuck to your whole mouth and it would taste like paste it was terrible {C: others laughing in background} {NW} Oh I don't know. {C: others laughing in background} My mother was one of those you know you all-we were laughing at it ago at Mr {B} he could do it but he couldn't tell how to do it, well now my- you know a lot of cooks, good cooks, are that way {C: others laughing in background} #1 and they can't #
596:  #2 That's true! #
Interviewer 1:  you do it by the touch #1 and uh #
596:  #2 that's right #
Interviewer 1:  by knowing how to do it.
596:  That's right that's right.
Interviewer 1:  Uh talking about there are two kinds of bread there's homemade bread and then there's
596:  yeah-yeah
Interviewer 1:  there's the kind you buy you call it what kind of bread?
596:  uh
Interviewer 1:  you might say there's a lot of difference between homemade bread and
596:  a-a-a-and-and um homemade bread and bought bread might-may say homemade biscuits and bought biscuits whole lot different. It's a whole lot different than that.
Interviewer 1:  Oh have you had those canned biscuits?
596:  yes {X}
Interviewer 1:  {NW} {D:there} {NW}
596:  but th-th-they and I don't care how they in them can or like when ya burst 'em and all like that they jump out and all like that.
Interviewer 1:  {NW} You don't care whether they jump out?
596:  Nah they but they ain't good as these homemade biscuits, just ain't as good. It ain't. Uh-uh. When one gets hard you get a- I mean when it gets cold, it'd be hard to knock a dog down with it ya know
Interviewer 1:  (NW)
596:  and there ain't no softening to it neither.
Interviewer 1:  {NW} Oh that's funny {NW}
596:  But now these homemade biscuits won't do that
Interviewer 1:  No! No.
596:  They won't do that. Uh-Uh.
Interviewer 1:  They stay fresh longer don't they too?
596:  Ma'am?
Interviewer 1:  The homemade stay softer-
596:  oh yeah that's right
Auxiliary:  Some don't need hardening and #1 some need #
Interviewer 1:  #2 yeah well # when I make 'em #1 {X} #
596:  #2 If you don't make 'em right they will # if you don't make them right.
Interviewer 1:  I've gotten to where I can make biscuits, but I couldn't-I don't want try dumplings again. That was-that was too-that was a shock.
Auxiliary:  #1 You love dumplings? #
596:  #2 Sure enough #
Interviewer 1:  Um I loved them when my mother made them, but I-you know after I tried it and it didn't work {NW}
596:  Now she make 'em {X} She make 'em and anybody eat 'em if they eat dumplings at all.
Interviewer 1:  Oh really? #1 Are you a good cook Mrs #
596:  #2 That's right #
Interviewer 1:  {B} a good cook?
596:  Oh she's a good cook. Yeah yeah she's a good cook. Now I tell ya right before her face she's a good cook.
Interviewer 1:  Ah that's-
596:  That's right
Interviewer 1:  #1 That's good. #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm # Yeah
Interviewer 1:  Uh did your mother or anybody you know ever make donuts?
Auxiliary:  No Do you want a fan?
Interviewer 1:  No ma'am I'm fine I'm just fine-
596:  No my-my mother didn't make no donuts.
Interviewer 1:  Have you ever seen anyone making any?
596:  No I ain't seen nobody making 'em. I just ain't seen {X}
Interviewer 1:  Um sometimes you'll make up a batter, this might be what you thinking about a while ago, some times you make up a batter and you fry some little #1 {X}. Three or four at a time #
596:  #2 Yes ma'am. {X} # We call them muffins
Interviewer 1:  muffins? muffins
Auxiliary:  you fry muffins? yeah I think we muffins yeah we fry 'em
Interviewer 1:  Okay how are they made?
Auxiliary:  Sort of like you're talking about made so like a donut ya know uh you know I don't know how they call it
596:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Okay # Are they fried piece of {C: laughing in background} {B} Are muffins fried?
Auxiliary:  yes ma'am
Interviewer 1:  Now I don't know how you do that because I think of muffins as you know put 'em in the oven and bake 'em
Auxiliary:  I have fried 'em and make 'em and bake 'em in the oven to do 'em {X}
Interviewer 1:  What-What type of flour do you use?
Auxiliary:  Just same kind-
Interviewer 1:  I mean its like wheat flour white flour?
Auxiliary:  yes ma'am flour that you like to make biscuits with
Interviewer 1:  Well I didn't know that!
596:  That's right
Interviewer 1:  No I haven't really cross that before. How do you eat 'em? What do eat 'em with?
Auxiliary:  Eat 'em with anything You can eat 'em as dessert {C: vehicle passing} you can eat 'em with any kind of dessert {C: vehicle passing} {X} {C: vehicle passing}
596:  I remember long time ago I use to go to school
Interviewer 1:  {X}
596:  momma picked up a muffin like that ya know and split 'em open and put jelly in 'em ya know like that and
Auxiliary:  Mm yeah I could hardly wait 'til dinner time comes.
Interviewer 1:  I'll bet {NW}
Auxiliary:  they fluff way up they look they're real big but they ain't nothing in 'em
596:  Nah they ain't nothing to 'em
Auxiliary:  #1 you measure them out as #
Interviewer 1:  #2 and you fry them? #
Auxiliary:  #1 thin as they can be #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm #
Auxiliary:  then when you put 'em in that hot grease and they just puff right up
596:  yeah that's right
Interviewer 1:  That's interesting
Auxiliary:  #1 yeah #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  No I've never run across that before When I think of muffins you know I think of the kind you put in the-in the muffin {D: tin}
596:  yeah bake 'em in
Interviewer 1:  #1 the oven. #
596:  #2 yeah Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  These sound good.
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Um well what I'm thinking of maybe is something a little bit different from that, what I was originally thinking of, and that's something that you'd fry maybe on a-a griddle #1 not fry that really- #
Auxiliary:  #2 You thinking of batter cakes. #
Interviewer 1:  #1 yeah that's what I'm thinking about. #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Batter cakes #
Auxiliary:  {X} salt
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  #1 what were they? #
Auxiliary:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer 1:  What do you call those?
Auxiliary:  They call them glitters
596:  glitters yeah
Interviewer 1:  #1 glitter? #
Auxiliary:  #2 flapjacks # some people call 'em flapjacks
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  Oh now you were calling- you said something else before that.
596:  Uh
Interviewer 1:  battered?
596:  uh uh batter cake!
Interviewer 1:  Is that the same thing #1 as glitter? #
596:  #2 Yes # yes that's the same thing.
Interviewer 1:  They're all the same thing?
596:  #1 same thing #
Interviewer 1:  #2 What do you # eat those with? Or how do you eat-
596:  I eat 'em with syrup like that-
Interviewer 1:  eat 'em for #1 breakfast and that or #
596:  #2 yes ma'am #
Interviewer 1:  #1 not necessarily- #
596:  #2 Well I eat 'em anytime while they're hot. # They to get cold you can't eat 'em.
Auxiliary:  can't do that
596:  No it gets cold you can't eat a cold batter cake. Got to eat them while they hot.
Interviewer 1:  Uh what is it that you put in bread, that's not baking powder or soda, to make it rise? You put in a #1 cake of- #
596:  #2 yeast # yeast
Interviewer 1:  #1 alright #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  Uh you have an egg and you crack it and there are two parts of it
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  You have the
596:  white and the uh
Auxiliary:  yellow
596:  and the yellow and of course the yolk
Interviewer 1:  #1 okay- #
596:  #2 one # they call the yolk {X} {NS} yolk I believe they call 'em
Interviewer 1:  okay
596:  I never did no which is the yellow or the white is called the yolk.
Interviewer 1:  No {NW}
596:  one of them called the yolk though
Interviewer 1:  okay Uh talking about the way you buy flour now you buy it in packages of course
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  Uh with about one pound you know you'll have a pound or more {C: vehicle passing}
596:  Yeah
Interviewer 1:  You say I'm going to the store and I bought two what of flour? {C: vehicle passing}
596:  two packages of flour
Interviewer 1:  or two pounds? {C: vehicle passing}
596:  or two pounds or something like that
Interviewer 1:  alright If you have eggs and you um put them in water and let the water boil and cook the eggs without breaking the eggs Mm-hmm when you're through you have what?
596:  A soft boiled egg? a broach egg soft boiled egg
Interviewer 1:  Alright now suppose you let the water come to a boil and then you crack the egg and slid it down in there. Then what would you have when they were done?
596:  I don't know I wouldn't know I thought-I didn't know you crack the egg and uh put it in the boiling water
Interviewer 1:  yeah the water comes to a boil #1 and sometime #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  you take the water off #1 for sometime #
596:  #2 Uh-huh #
Interviewer 1:  you don't and you crack the egg and let it kind of slide down in there.
596:  Mm-hmm I don't know I always call it soft boiled or either hard boiled egg one way or the other
Interviewer 1:  alright did you ever hear of porched eggs #1 or poached eggs or- #
596:  #2 yes ma'am yes # I've heard that
Interviewer 1:  Have you-would you know what that meant?
596:  No that's just a-it's a egg I think you-you put some-you hot water you break the egg and cook it in hot water steal the grease
Interviewer 1:  Okay
Auxiliary:  put in in water and steal the grease
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Alright what would you call that?
596:  A broached egg.
Interviewer 1:  That's the broached egg?
596:  yeah broached egg yeah
Interviewer 1:  okay Fat, salt, pork is #1 called #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm # Mm-hmm Fat soft pork?
Interviewer 1:  Fat, salt, pork
596:  Oh that's uh we call that uh-I call it salt meat that what I call that.
Interviewer 1:  Salt meat?
596:  Salt meat.
Interviewer 1:  Alright uh that's the kind that you cook with turnip greens? #1 or some kind of greens #
596:  #2 yes ma'am. that's right #
Interviewer 1:  Alright, what would you call it if it had a good bit of lean in it?
596:  call that there uh bacon
Interviewer 1:  Bacon?
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Alright now is that the same- what would you-what is that that you buy that's sliced real thin-
596:  that's sliced bacon
Interviewer 1:  okay that you fry #1 with the eggs, that's what you're talking about. #
596:  #2 Yes. Yes ma'am. That's right #
Interviewer 1:  Alright now this other is a little bit different #
Interviewer 1:  #1 isn't it? #
596:  #2 Yes ma'am. # yes ma'am.
Interviewer 1:  Okay um {NS} When y-you say um Hmm what was I going to say? Oh! The hard outside part of this-of bacon ya know that you-if you buy a whole piece of it you gotta cut it off
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  That's the what?
596:  Rind if the skin on it
Interviewer 1:  Alright that's the same thing?
596:  Yes
Interviewer 1:  Alright uh if cut out the whole side of the hog
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  That's the what?
596:  That's the bacon cut out the midland we call it-
Interviewer 1:  yeah midland is #1 what I was thinking of. #
596:  #2 yeah-yeah. # midland
Interviewer 1:  Do ever hear of the bacon called midland meat? Or hear anything called midland meat?
596:  yes ma'am that's right
Interviewer 1:  What would that be?
596:  Well I just-that is just a that-that like we talking about that whole slide of bacon.
Interviewer 1:  That'd be the whole
596:  yes ma'am
Interviewer 1:  a slab of bacon?
596:  yes ma'am
Interviewer 1:  Alright
596:  midland the meat {X} Went to town and bought a whole midland of meat and then he got a whole side.
Interviewer 1:  he got a whole side?
596:  yeah a whole side that's right
Interviewer 1:  Alright um if the man at the grocery store that um cuts up meat
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  He's a
596:  meat cutter
Interviewer 1:  or al-
596:  butcher
Interviewer 1:  And there's a kind of meat that it's ground up hog meat #1 and you #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  stuff it inside the
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  the-the hog's intestines #1 sometime #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm # Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  That's what?
596:  That's sausage {NW}
Interviewer 1:  You like-you sound like you might like some. {C: laughing}
596:  Ooh yes!
Auxiliary:  That's what he does {X}
596:  I make sausage every winter.
Interviewer 1:  You do? That's right. Still make sausage?
596:  Yes. Every winter.
Interviewer 1:  Really? {D: I wonder if a lot of question I ask you here about sausage.} or about what you do with it ya know. You kill hogs?
596:  yes
Interviewer 1:  {NW} I'll get that in just a second. If meat has been kept too long you say the meat has done what?
596:  Well it got strong
Interviewer 1:  Alright after it gets strong then it finally-it's no good at all and you say it did what? It
596:  No ma'am it's no good
Interviewer 1:  It's {NW}
596:  spoiled
Interviewer 1:  Alright now that's worse than strong.
596:  Well that's spoiled that's that-that's #1 worst than- that's right. #
Interviewer 1:  #2 {NW} # Have you ever heard the term rank
596:  #1 Yes ma'am. #
Interviewer 1:  #2 about meat? #
596:  That's right.
Interviewer 1:  Now is rank not as bad as strong?
596:  No it's about the same thing
Interviewer 1:  about the same thing
596:  about the same thing
Interviewer 1:  but spoiled is
596:  oh it's gone it's
Interviewer 1:  {NW}
596:  ain't nothing to it spoiled is just spoiled
Interviewer 1:  And when you kill hogs do you make anything out of the head?
596:  Yes I make hog head cheese
Interviewer 1:  Alright is that the same thing as sous? yes ma'am. same thing Um do you ever make anything out of the liver?
596:  no no more than just fry just cook it ya know
Interviewer 1:  Alright. You didn't ever make any liver cheese #1 or liver sausage or anything #
596:  #2 No. No #
Interviewer 1:  {D: that took}?
596:  No
Interviewer 1:  Did you ever know anyone who made anything out of the blood?
596:  I am sure that make pudding out of the- no but I didn't see no-I never did see none
Interviewer 1:  Mm Think you'd ever eat any?
596:  No
Interviewer 1:  {NW}
596:  I don't think I ever want any. {NW}
Interviewer 1:  Um Did you ever take the juice that y-you make ya know from the hog head cheese and stir it up with some hog meat and fry it Come out with anything um to eat?
596:  No not that I know of. Well you mean the-the-the grease which you press out of the hog head cheese?
Interviewer 1:  I think so yes
596:  Yes ma'am I have it's as good as anything ya know I-
Interviewer 1:  What do you use it #1 for? #
596:  #2 Well you # use that grease almost anything. It's hot and it got all kinda flavors in it and it's good, it's good to use
Interviewer 1:  What have you used it in? What sorts of things #1 have you used it on? #
596:  #2 Well you can yeah # anything most
Auxiliary:  {X}
596:  Anything else where you gonna cook ya know maybe {NW} some of the meat you gonna fry any kind you put that in that makes a good flavor to anything you cook
Interviewer 1:  Does it?
596:  any kind of meat you gonna cook it make a good flavor to it. Now she can make hog and cheese well.
Interviewer 1:  Can ya?
596:  She can make hog head cheese.
Interviewer 1:  {NW}
596:  I'm telling ya!
Interviewer 1:  {NW} Uh when-you do this in the fall #1 don't you? #
596:  #2 yes ma'am # in the winter, that's right.
Interviewer 1:  Well I'll tell you something right-right now I wish I were gonna be here Cause when I was a child my family killed hogs about Thanksgiving
596:  sure enough
Interviewer 1:  #1 not my father but my uncle ya know #
596:  #2 Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am #
Interviewer 1:  and we would go out there and I tell you there is nothing like, well I called-grew up calling it souse
596:  Yes ma'am that's right.
Interviewer 1:  and it was-oh it's either ya know #1 either term but my family #
596:  #2 oh yeah yeah #
Interviewer 1:  happened to call it souse and um there's nothing like homemade souse.
596:  No
Interviewer 1:  Nothing like- and the stuff you buy at the store is terrible
596:  {X}
Interviewer 1:  Mm
596:  Now I guess that we had um uh you see the set of three number three tubs that we had it full of souse and it wouldn't last you don't know what time cause somebody be hearing about it and come #1 pouring in looking for ya. #
Interviewer 1:  #2 flying # Right.
596:  #1 They would they'd come #
Auxiliary:  #2 {D: I'll bet} #
596:  pouring in looking for it
Interviewer 1:  Uh did you ever hear of scrapple? {D: Scrapple or cripple?} from that something you cook.
596:  No I don't know
Interviewer 1:  Haven't heard those terms?
596:  No I hear about scramble. Scrambled eggs
Interviewer 1:  No I'm thinking about scrapple uh some case- it's something made with corn meal and hog juices
596:  No I just don't know nothing about that
Interviewer 1:  Alright.
596:  Sure don't
Interviewer 1:  Uh if you kept your butter too long so that it didn't taste good you'd say the butter
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  what would you say about the taste of it?
596:  The butter done got strong, the butter done got old. something like that
Interviewer 1:  Alright. Did you ever say rancid?
596:  Yes butter got ra-well I call it done got the rank of strong or somebody call it
Interviewer 1:  Okay
596:  Yes ma'am
Interviewer 1:  Thick sour milk
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  that people drink or eat, is what?
596:  Well it got to much acid in it I would call it.
Interviewer 1:  No it's something people really like. or clabber? yeah that's what I was #1 thinking about. #
596:  #2 Cla- #
Interviewer 1:  {NW}
596:  Clabber or buttermilk.
Interviewer 1:  They're not the same thing now #1 are they? #
596:  #2 Yes ma'am. #
Interviewer 1:  They are the same thing?
596:  Yes ma'am. Well uh course buttermilk is-is-is a milk which you as-you churn get the butter out of it then you know that's why it's called buttermilk but clabber that's a milk where it just turn getting ready for its churning.
Interviewer 1:  I see
596:  yes ma'am #1 I see #
Interviewer 1:  #2 It's getting ready #
596:  for it to churn that's clabber milk. When it's thick ya know its ready for a churning.
Interviewer 1:  I see
596:  but then
Interviewer 1:  Did you ever make cheese out of the clabber? Anybody ever-
596:  No I never-I have eat it though but I-I never did see it. We did make none here. I've eaten it though.
Interviewer 1:  Alright. Uh what's the first thing you do to milk when you-after you milk?
Auxiliary:  Strained it, first thing we did.
Interviewer 1:  Alright There's a dessert I'm thinking about that's baked in a deep dish that's made with apples and has several layers of apples and crust.
596:  #1 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  #2 And it # ya know one after the other.
596:  Yeah. {X}
Interviewer 1:  Sometimes called apple something.
596:  Applesauce something like that apple?
Interviewer 1:  Um #1 No ever hear- #
596:  #2 No not sauce but apple # {NS} I don't know
Interviewer 1:  Ever hear of apple cobbler?
596:  Yes that's right I #1 started to say #
Interviewer 1:  #2 well- #
596:  Well I was started to say apple pie started to say well a while ago but now I didn't need to say it
Interviewer 1:  Now when you say apple pie
596:  Well
Interviewer 1:  uh does it have two crusts with the apple between or can it be made different ways?
596:  Well you make it different way you can have you don't have but one crust at the bottom if you wants to or you can have crust on top if you wants to called apple pie.
Interviewer 1:  Oh how would a- you make apple cobbler then?
596:  Well that's same thing #1 Apple-a-apple cobbler #
Interviewer 1:  #2 It's the same thing? #
596:  ain't a thing but just-
Interviewer 1:  Mrs. {B} here is saying something w-what she what she giving instructions from?
Auxiliary:  Dumplings is apple #1 cobbler #
596:  #2 Right! # I was fixing to say that #1 just need some dumplings in there. #
Auxiliary:  #2 (X) # {X} #1 I just couldn't say that #
596:  #2 {X} # what the cobbler is.
Auxiliary:  good that way.
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  Now what you say it to me so-say it repeat what she said so I can get it.
596:  Yeah see the apple is apple {X} uh cobbler when the thing but just some apples just like you can make like go make peach cobbler or something like that
Interviewer 1:  Uh-huh
596:  You see you put your dumplings in there and ya play with it you know whatever and the ingredients in there what you call 'em
Interviewer 1:  and then what she said something about you drop the crust of the pastry down into it like dumplings
596:  Yes ma'am
Interviewer 1:  Now that's apple #1 cobbler #
596:  #2 apple # apple cobbler
Interviewer 1:  and apple dumplings are the same #1 thing #
596:  #2 same thing #
Interviewer 1:  same thing
596:  same thing
Interviewer 1:  Okay #1 If somebody has a #
596:  #2 same thing #
Interviewer 1:  good appetite you say-
Auxiliary:  {X}
Interviewer 1:  Oh you put a crust on top of it then
Auxiliary:  {X}
Interviewer 1:  Oh you put a crust on top of the pie then and-on top of the dumplings and the apple #1 mixture #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  I see If someone has a good appetite you say mm that man sure likes to put away his
596:  {NW} his food?
Interviewer 1:  Alright you ever use {D:bittles?}
596:  {D: Yes bittles that's right.}
Interviewer 1:  {NW}
596:  That's the truth yeah
Interviewer 1:  Uh what do you call a sweet liquid that you pour over pudding? or over cake?
596:  uh you ain't talking about jelly is you gel?
Interviewer 1:  No I'm you know people use to make a kind of dessert where they'd make a cake you know just a plain cake then they'd cook-
596:  pour syrup over it or some kind of
Interviewer 1:  Yeah or sometime they would take it and mix up um milk or cream and some or sometime they'd make uh a kind of a custard like thing they poured over it.
596:  I don't know. We call it icing we use call it. We put over cake and just made it all over just covered over it.
Interviewer 1:  Yeah that's not quite what I'm thinking about though. Do ever hear that referred to as sauce?
596:  something or I know what you talking about
Interviewer 1:  My mother used to make what she'd call a one egg cake two egg cake and then she'd cook up um a kind of sauce that was like lemon sauce or she puts
596:  put over it to uh
Interviewer 1:  poured over it
596:  keep it make it {D: plime} I know what you talking about alright but I don't know what the name of-
Auxiliary:  {X}
Interviewer 1:  that would make it what? what'd you just say? That's interesting.
596:  {D: Make it plime, make it soft you know make it} moisture
Interviewer 1:  {D: Alright you said plime?}
596:  yes ma'am #1 {D: plime} #
Interviewer 1:  #2 That's an interesting # word I haven't heard that #1 one before #
596:  #2 {D: yeah plime} # {D: That's right, that's plime.}
Interviewer 1:  That's talking about making foods soft?
596:  Yes ma'am {D: A kind of lubricant ya know what they call plime}
Interviewer 1:  Would you say that about anything other than food? #1 {D: Anything else you'd say that makes it plime?} #
596:  #2 No No No No #
Interviewer 1:  #1 That's interesting I hadn't heard that expression before #
596:  #2 No No that's right #
Interviewer 1:  Okay um food taken between regular meals, you call that Say I'm going in to get a little
596:  Uh get a little snack
Interviewer 1:  Alright is that very much food?
596:  No it ain't much
Interviewer 1:  Suppose you were going in and have a right-good bit of it?
596:  Well you say I'm going to get lunch, going to eat, going to eat my dinner or supper at break so you-
Interviewer 1:  That would be a regular meal?
596:  Yes regular meal but you going in just a little {X} going to get a little snack
Interviewer 1:  Okay
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  The black liquid that you drink for breakfast is
596:  coffee
Interviewer 1:  Alright and how do you make coffee?
596:  Well I-well I use
Interviewer 1:  Now you use instant I bet.
596:  No ma'am #1 No No #
Interviewer 1:  #2 No you don't! #
596:  #1 No No #
Interviewer 1:  #2 {NW} #
596:  Don't use no instant I-I got enough making instant coffee when I was in the hospital.
Interviewer 1:  {NW}
596:  Our uh-the way I make coffee I just take uh get my coffee and put them in my uh percolator and pour that hot water over it just pour that hot water over it the amount that I want and sit it there and let it begin to steam I think it's about made well I take it and somebody pour it back over water and pour in That's coffee already done made then {NW}
Interviewer 1:  How did they make it back in the old days do you remember?
596:  Well in the old days we use to take coffee and buy grain coffee ya know and take it and {D: potch it} Put them in a container and {D: potch it} while it's stirring ya know and put in just a little oh I used to see my mother put just a little ol' pinch of grease in that-in that coffee and kind of I don't know {D: keep it stirring while it's potching} That's when they just burns where you got it parked
Interviewer 1:  Uh-huh
596:  And uh Then she didn't have at them times, you didn't have no what'd you call uh coffee meal. We had to grind it. You take a bottle and put it out there on 'em and roll it ya know. {NW} crack it pop it {NW}
Interviewer 1:  I like that
Auxiliary:  Well you got {X} ya know {X} you take it and put it in like you just like that other coffee But as you got a coffee meal she telling you to take a coffee meal ya know ya know and I did love when tell me come grind the coffee
Interviewer 1:  Oh did you?
596:  I did ya know last bit ya know I just #1 shake it in my hands and put 'em in my mouth #
Auxiliary:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer 1:  You eat it?
596:  I would
Interviewer 1:  Ground coffee?
596:  Ground coffee taste good
Interviewer 1:  #1 Really? #
596:  #2 for homemade coffee #
Interviewer 1:  Aw I didn't know that
596:  And then so I say if I ever got grown I was gonna drank coffee. Well I did I drank coffee. Course now I ain't drank coffee and I even not drink it It don't make no difference to me it's-it's I ain't got no habit of it.
Interviewer 1:  Does it keep you awake when you drink #1 it at night? #
596:  #2 No # it don't bother me. Take no effect on me at all. {NW} I drank it or not drank it
Interviewer 1:  Hmm uh What do you drink when your thirsty?
596:  Drink water {D: There's nothing takes place of water.}
Interviewer 1:  Ah and what-what did you drink it in? What was that she brought you?
596:  Oh in a glass.
Interviewer 1:  #1 Alright #
596:  #2 yeah # {X}
Interviewer 1:  If I drink, if-if I drink,if I drop a glass it might
596:  break.
Interviewer 1:  Alright now I might say yesterday I two glasses
596:  Yeah I broke two glasses
Interviewer 1:  and I sure have a lot of glasses #1 I sure have #
596:  #2 Yeah that's right. mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  have what? have bro-
596:  yeah I have a number of glasses and if I keep on dropping 'em I won't have none {NW}
Interviewer 1:  No what I wanted you- I'm using the word #1 break I want to say I sure #
596:  #2 Yes ma'am, yes break. #
Interviewer 1:  have done what to 'em I sure have bro-
596:  I sure have broke my glasses. I sure have broke a heap of glasses.
Interviewer 1:  Right
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  and I do
596:  Mm
Interviewer 1:  If I ask you how much water ya drink
596:  #1 Mm #
Interviewer 1:  #2 ya might # say well I
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  I what?
596:  Well I drink to uh so many glasses of water in a day's time or something like that.
Interviewer 1:  Alright
596:  Maybe somedays I drink more than do at others.
Interviewer 1:  and then you might turn around ask me how much have you
596:  How much have you drank?
Interviewer 1:  #1 Alright #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  When you have uh your family here and the family's standing around waiting and dinner gets ready
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  How do you tell them to come to the table? What do you say? I tell 'em to tell 'em dinner's ready. y'all make ready for dinner #1 Okay #
596:  #2 or # come out to dinner or whatever I say to 'em like that
Interviewer 1:  Alright do you tell 'em to- you ever tell 'em to sit down or to draw up or anything like that?
596:  No ma'am I just tell 'em that dinner's ready when they come to the table. I'd like them to have a seat round you take your seat
Interviewer 1:  I see
596:  round the table
Interviewer 1:  Alright Uh somebody comes into the dining room and you ask him won't you sit
596:  yeah won't you sit here or won't you wanna have a seat?
Interviewer 1:  alright so then he did what?
596:  He sit down he had a seat #1 he sit down. #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Alright and # nobody was left standing #1 they had all #
596:  #2 nobody left standing # #1 that's right everybody was sitting down #
Interviewer 1:  #2 they had all # Alright they had all sat
596:  all-all sit down
Interviewer 1:  If you want someone if there's some potatoes on the table
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  and you want someone to go ahead #1 and get some you might #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. #
Interviewer 1:  say go ahead and do what?
596:  yeah get the potatoes
Interviewer 1:  or help
596:  or-or or help yourself to the potatoes yeah that's right
Interviewer 1:  Okay you ever hear people say take out for that instead of help yourself go ahead and take out?
596:  No ma'am I never hardly use that word
Interviewer 1:  #1 Sometimes you'd find that in some parts in the country #
596:  #2 Yeah. That's right. Yeah. #
Interviewer 1:  So you told him to help himself so he went ahead and
596:  and helped himself
Interviewer 1:  alright Um if you decide not to eat something, and somebody offered you for example some blood pudding, Mm-hmm how would-if that-you know you want to be nice about it #1 how would #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  you refuse it?
596:  I just no I thank ya I wouldn't care for any.
Interviewer 1:  alright
596:  that's right I tell him I thank ya I wouldn't care for none
Interviewer 1:  Food that's cooked and served a second time
596:  Mm-hmm
Interviewer 1:  #1 is #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  is what?
596:  Well uh food cooked and served the same as
Interviewer 1:  its cooked and then y-you know ya eat it one #1 meal then you have it again #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # You say its what?
596:  It's cared over food.
Interviewer 1:  #1 Alright. #
596:  #2 Would you call # it like that?
Interviewer 1:  That's fine.
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  You put food in your mouth and then you begin to
596:  begin to chew
Interviewer 1:  What is this southern food that's, it's especially known for being in the south, that's often served with eggs? It's made out of brown corn. {C: squeaking noise}
596:  Uh cornbread.
Interviewer 1:  Uh no I'm thinking about something a little different this time. It's made out of brown corn, it's kind of like cereal.
596:  cereal?
Interviewer 1:  It's white and you put butter on it
596:  Uh-huh Ah we call it, wouldn't call it hominy would you?
Interviewer 1:  You could is-
596:  hominy
Interviewer 1:  Now is hominy big or is it all ground up #1 real fine #
596:  #2 it's ground up fine # hominy is fine yeah
Interviewer 1:  Would it be the same thing as grits do you think?
596:  Yes ma'am well they're the same thing. Hominy and grits about the same thing.
Interviewer 1:  Okay
596:  Cause hominy just a little bit coarser than grits
Interviewer 1:  Oh it is?
596:  yes just a little bit coarser
Interviewer 1:  It's a little bit #1 coarser #
596:  #2 yes ma'am # That's why it's called hominy.
Interviewer 1:  People use to make hominy #1 using #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  #1 lye didn't they? #
596:  #2 that's right # Well yes ma'am and she use-she used to make what's called lye hominy. See that is grains of corn and they take it and put that lye and somebody shell down and get that husk off of it.
Interviewer 1:  Mm-hmm
596:  Husk come off the corn and that there leave the kernel of the corn there and that's what-that's what they eat. But that-first husk they come get it off somehow or another why they {X} wash it off someway or another.
Interviewer 1:  You call that what? Lye-
596:  Lye hominy
Interviewer 1:  I see
596:  Lye hominy
Interviewer 1:  That's cause it was made with lye?
596:  #1 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  #2 You sure? # Um there's another kind of a starchy vegetable that people eat. They eat it a lot in China comes in long grains.
596:  Yes ma'am I don't I #1 may not #
Interviewer 1:  #2 ri- #
596:  #1 #
Interviewer 1:  #2 #
596:  May not know about that
Interviewer 1:  ri-
Auxiliary:  rice
596:  rice?
Interviewer 1:  #1 Yeah that's what I #
596:  #2 Oh # I thought you said rye. Oh I didn't know I #1 I-I-I #
Interviewer 1:  #2 I was just giving ya #
596:  I wasn't thinking about China making or growing so much rice
Interviewer 1:  I was just kind of giving you the #1 first sound of the word trying to remind you #
596:  #2 I yeah yeah yeah yeah # Oh I know rice. Yeah we use to have it in this part of the country #1 Yeah I {D:understood that} #
Interviewer 1:  #2 raised right here in this country # I didn't know that.
596:  sure did Raised rice #1 right there #
Interviewer 1:  #2 Um # In fact that's probably what I should've asked but I you know I'm not used to being in a place where they grow rice
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  Um what are some terms that you remember or that you know of that people used to talk about Whiskey-you know that's made by people that don't pay taxes on it
596:  Well they call uh what you mean their whiskey they make?
Interviewer 1:  yeah
596:  Bootleg whiskey?
Interviewer 1:  Ah {C: laughing} {NW} Now is that the kind they make off in a still somewhere?
596:  Yes ma'am that's what it is.
Interviewer 1:  #1 Alright #
596:  #2 And then # now if you were talking about just steal whiskey somewhere or whiskey I say oh bootleg whiskey that's what it is.
Interviewer 1:  They ever have anything else they call it, that you remember?
596:  No let me see. I don't know I might ask about-
Auxiliary:  white lightning
596:  I m- yeah white lightning and all that kind of ol' stuff different things.
Interviewer 1:  Okay um what about beer, that they made at home?
596:  Well-
Interviewer 1:  What would they call that?
596:  homebrew?
Interviewer 1:  {NW}
596:  homebrew.
Interviewer 1:  and I'm getting some very good smells coming from the back part of the house so you might say {C: sniffing sound} just that, just #1 {C: sniffing sound} #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  If it really ya know if it really smell good #1 to you #
596:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer 1:  ya might say to somebody #1 Just #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  #1 {C: sniffing sound} #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm #
Interviewer 1:  #1 that just #
596:  #2 Mm-hmm # Just {NW} well it smell good out you know what you would call that I-
Interviewer 1:  Would you say to somebody just take a whiff of that or
596:  yeah
Interviewer 1:  smell that?
596:  yeah yes yes that's right the scent of it or something
Interviewer 1:  What would you say?
596:  I Oh I say oh come as I sure some- I smell something surely it smell good. {NW}
Interviewer 1:  Alright there's-you've-we've talked about this syrup. {D:It's something that they used to make out of cane}
596:  yes ma'am that's right. Molasses what we call it In plain words molasses is syrup.
Interviewer 1:  It's same thing?
596:  Yes ma'am they're the same thing.
Interviewer 1:  There's no difference in them at all?
596:  No No
Interviewer 1:  Okay. Um if you talk about something-what of what's the-is-is there a kind of something like that that comes out of tree? {NS}