Interviewer: {NS} And especially after you tell me about all the {C: laughing while speaking} all those children. 596: {NW} {C: laughing} Interviewer: He says he comes in at night counting noses. {C: slight reel distortion starts} {NS} 596: #1 You know that'd be what you call a passel of kids right? # Interviewer: #2 Yeah. That's right. # A person who goes to elementary school you'd call him a what? 596: Uh #1 go to elementary school # Interviewer: #2 Mm-hmm. # #1 or go to high school you'd say he's a what? # 596: #2 Yeah. # {X} somebody call him a senior or you'd call him a according how high he got hi- his grade. Interviewer: Alright what about going to college you'd say he's a college 596: College student. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: Uh a girl or a woman in an office who takes care of #1 her employer's mail and takes his dictation and time she's his? {C: reel distortion ends} # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. {NW} {C: crack noise in background} # She uh She's the office girl we c- w- we would call her an office girl or Interviewer: Or a se- 596: {NW} {C: grunt} A self- employed or something. Interviewer: {B} is over there whispering. {NW} {C: name is said and should be beeped out, laughing in background} #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 Well I {NW} {C: starts laughing} # I might didn't understand what you who takes care of Interviewer: She takes care of uh does his work she's his sece- 596: Well I me uh office me I would call if you take down ah you would mean a bookkeeper. Interviewer: No that's not what I mean. 596: #1 No? # Interviewer: #2 Tell him what you mean Mrs. {B} {NW} {C: laugh} # Auxiliary: Secretary. 596: #1 What? Sec- a secretary oh yeah a secretary. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laugh} # 596: #1 I couldn't think of secretary. # Interviewer: #2 You know you've really only had to tell him about one answer. # 596: I c- I couldn't think of secretary. Course it ha- course it is a secretary. {C: auxiliary talk in background} #1 It just gets you know. {NW] {C: grunts} # Interviewer: #2 You've only had to tell him one thing one thing. I think he's fantastic. # Uh #1 anyone born in the United States talking about your nationality anyone born # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: in the United States is a what? 596: Well h- he he uh he's uh Interviewer: Ame- {NS} 596: Uh born in the United States #1 he's American. He's American. Yeah. {NW} {C: grunts} # Interviewer: #2 Right. That's what I was looking for. # 596: I thinking about you someone who was born out of the United States and come in here. Interviewer: No I I wasn't. 596: Oh no I I just thought you asked me about {X} or something. Interviewer: #1 No no that's not what I'm thinking of. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: grunts} # Interviewer: Uh I'm gonna go back to this or that people again and ask you about what you call #1 people if you ever call them peckerwoods or anything. # 596: #2 Yeah. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Uh how would you refer to white people who are just you know just 596: #1 Just- yeah. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 uh aren't well off and they're lazy and don't work # #1 they're what? # 596: #2 Now that wha- that's what you call a peckerwood. # Interviewer: #1 That's a peckerwood ah ha. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #1 I knew I'd get that sooner or later. {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: continues to laugh} # #1 {NW} {C: continues to laugh} # Auxiliary: #2 {X} white people # 596: They call one #1 yeah th- they call one they call one another that. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} a cracker. # 596: #1 Yeah they call one another that but I don't I don't I I don't. # Interviewer: #2 Wha- # what would a white person call another one? 596: #1 He call 'em call 'em pecker- we call them peckerwood. Call 'em a cracker. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah and she said something else. # 596: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Okay w- would uh # #1 you be likely to call 'em a cracker? You call 'em a peckerwood. You wouldn't call 'em that. {C: laughing from both interviewer and auxiliary} # 596: #2 No ma'am. No I I d- I don't call I ain't gonna call 'em that I ain't gonna call 'em that. # No. Interviewer: #1 Oh my. # 596: #2 No I ain't gonna call 'em that. # Interviewer: Uh well one more one more term here. Anyone um who from out in the country and he goes into town and he kinda stands out #1 cuz he doesn't know about town ways. He would be a what? # 596: #2 Yeah {NW}. {C: grunt} # Well if he come he go to town he's standing around and he don't know much about it well I don't know what you would call that kind of person. Course sometimes I might be talking about myself {X}. Standing around and I don't know nobody in a strange place and you standing around. Interviewer: Well th- you know it kinda he kinda sticks out you have any ideas about that Mrs. {B}? Auxiliary: No ma'am. Interviewer: Every year I'm called a country hoosier 596: #1 Well. # Interviewer: #2 Or a # #1 a redneck or. # 596: #2 Well some- well something like that yeah yeah mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Uh-huh. 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Um #1 if someone's waiting for you to get ready so you can go somewhere with them # 596: #2 {NW} Mm-hmm. {C: grunt} # Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. {NW} {C: grunt} # 596: #2 he says hey you gonna be ready soon you might say I'll be with you in ju-. # Just a few minute- just a minute. Interviewer: #1 Alright. {NW} {C: laugh} # 596: #2 Just a minute. # Sometimes that means it's a long minute but still. Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: laugh} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laugh} # Interviewer: Um if you know you're on the right road #1 and you aren't sure of the distance # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #1 you know like to Jackson # 596: #2 Yessum. # Interviewer: #1 you might stop at a filling station and you'd say how is it to Ja- how # 596: #2 {NW} {C: grunts} # #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 how what is it to Jackson? # 596: Yes say how far you know to Jackson or how or something like that how far you call it from here to Jackson #1 you say yeah. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 596: How far would you call it from here to Jackson. Interviewer: I see that that's 596: Why you wouldn't you wouldn't want him to know you just directly just didn't know so I mean you just #1 You say how far would you call it from here. # Interviewer: #2 Oh ho. # 596: #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 I'm glad you said that that's interesting. # #1 That's so you kinda cover up. # 596: #2 {NW} that's right. {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #1 Ah. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: Um #1 if someone said how often do you go to town you might say oh I don't go very. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # Well how often do you go to town? Interviewer: I don't go very. 596: I don't go very regular or that often or something like that. Interviewer: #1 Right. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Now I need to ask you about some parts of the body. 596: #1 Mm-hmm. Yessum, mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Names parts of the body. # #1 What would this part be? Just look at and I'll point to them this part right up here. # 596: #2 That's the forehead. # Interviewer: Right and this is one. 596: Hand. Interviewer: And two 596: Yeah that's right. Interviewer: #1 two what. # 596: #2 Th- thumbs. # Interviewer: No just tell me these are two what? 596: #1 A hand with fingers on them. # Interviewer: #2 And this pa- {C: cuts off laughing} # 596: #1 Yeah. Palm of the hand. # Interviewer: #2 And this part is the what of the. # #1 Alright. Um # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: these are my. 596: Shoulders. Interviewer: Alright and this whole thing is my 596: Uh loins from then on down. Interviewer: #1 Alright now would that be all of this down to here? # 596: #2 {NW} {C: grunts} # Well that'd be uh thigh Interviewer: #1 The whole thing though including. # 596: #2 Limb. # One of yo- one of your limbs. Interviewer: #1 Okay # 596: #2 Yessum. # Interviewer: Would you ever use leg? 596: Yessum leg yessum that's right. Interviewer: Alright would you be more likely to say limb or leg? 596: Well I'd say leg. Interviewer: Alright and this is one. 596: I would call the first {X} the leg {X} this is the leg. When I see the l- uh the whole here I wouldn't call from here on down the leg. Interviewer: Oh you wouldn't? 596: No cuz that is the leg though but still that's that's that's one side of it. But now the here your leg here thigh here knee here you know like Interviewer: #1 I see so you n- you think of the leg really as being from the knee down. # 596: #2 Yes ma'am that's right. # Interviewer: Okay uh would the whole thing be the limb? {C: background noise} 596: Well {X} no. #1 Cuz {X}. Yeah, yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah that's right. So they'd be arms or legs. # 596: Why you s- if you just say a person's limb well you talking about the legs thighs arms and all. Interviewer: #1 Ah. # 596: #2 Those are his limbs. # #1 Yeah. {X} # Interviewer: #2 That would be the whole. I see. # This is my. 596: Hair. Interviewer: #1 Alright and if I were a man if I didn't shave I might have a # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. {NW} B- beards. {C: grunts} # Interviewer: Alright and this is my. 596: Ear. Interviewer: Alright which one. 596: That's your that's your right ear {X} #1 It's right. # Interviewer: #2 It don't matter I'm gonna get both of them. # 596: #1 Yeah. Yeah. Left ear {X} # Interviewer: #2 And this would be. # #1 {NW} Doesn't make any difference I just wanted both of them. {C: laughing at first} # 596: #2 Yeah. No. That's right. # Interviewer: And this whole thing is my. 596: {X} your face. Interviewer: #1 No right around here. # 596: #2 A mouth. # #1 Around the mouth. # Interviewer: #2 And one of these is a. # 596: Teeth. Interviewer: #1 Alright one would be a. # 596: #2 Tooth. # Interviewer: Alright and the things that hold your teeth in are #1 your. # 596: #2 Gums. # Interviewer: Alright uh I have one. 596: One thumb. Interviewer: No one. 596: Eh one arm. Interviewer: #1 What I'm hitting you with. # 596: #2 Oh fist. # Interviewer: #1 Okay and I have two. {NW} {C: laughing after phrase} # 596: #2 {X} Two fists. I do. {NW} {C: laugh} # Interviewer: Um at any place where you can bend your hand is a. 596: Joint. Interviewer: On a man 596: #1 {NW} Mm-hmm. His body {C: grunt at first} # Interviewer: #2 this part wo- right here would be his. # No this this right through here. 596: Oh his breast. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 And the front part of your leg from here right to here would be your # 596: #2 {NW} {C: agreeing grunts} # Shin we call it. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: Now have you ever seen a man sitting down in a funny way he's kind of squatting down. 596: Yeah mm-hmm. Interviewer: And his #1 he's kind of folded up the way I look at you say he's down on his what. # 596: #2 Yeah {X}. # #1 Eh on his benders we call that. Yeah. {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 On his benders? {NW} Okay. {C: laughing} # 596: {NW} {C: laugh} Interviewer: #1 Someone has been sick a while and they're still kind of # 596: #2 {NW} {C: grunt} # Interviewer: #1 pale and thin you say you sure still look # 596: #2 Yeah. # You look you look sallow w- we call that sallow. Well I don't wait I wait a minute like we call that word sallow that means he kind of a pale kind of uh he don't look good. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 596: #2 Yessum that's right. # Interviewer: Would you ever use the term peaky? 596: Well that's a peaky looking peaky. We use that word. He looks peaky. That means you don't look good. Interviewer: Uh that would mean would that mean the same as sallow? 596: Yessum something like that yes. He looks peaky {X}. He don't look like he oughta look. Interviewer: Alright. Uh {C: background noise} if I say to you that girl is very common. 596: Mm-hmm {NW}. {C: grunt} Interviewer: What would you think I meant? 596: Mm-hmm. Why you oh you know where you mean she look common or she just got common or what? Interviewer: Alright now wha- what would that mean she had uh she she didn't always behave herself? 596: No sometimes you look common {X} how you behave yourself. Interviewer: Alright what what does it mean when you look common? 596: The way I see it you just don't look tempered or something like that you just look kinda #1 uh you know you jus- well you just # Interviewer: #2 You look ugly or? # Trashy? 596: #1 Something I don't know what you'd call that. {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 Okay. {NW} Okay. {C: laughing} # 596: Sometimes th- th- they just look common just common looking. Sometimes they're not a bad or nice person but you just kinda look common. That's all just kinda common. Interviewer: And a person who can um who is very a man for example who's very big and muscular {C: faint grunt in background} #1 you say he's very. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 He can lift he- things he's what kind of man he's a very. # 596: #2 Oh yeah. He'd be # Be husky. We call 'em husky. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Yeah {X}. # Interviewer: Um if he's kind of #1 slightly overweight or or a little fleshy you might say that he's a what kind of man? # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # Well if he kinda o- overweight uh well I don't know what you'd call him. #1 He's stout I would he's stout. Yeah he's stout he's a stout man. # Interviewer: #2 Uh yeah now that's what I was thinking of that was the term I was thinking about. # 596: #1 Yeah. Yeah he sure is getting eh that man getting stout. He's getting stout right there. # Interviewer: #2 When you uh say stout you {X}. # #1 Alright so. # 596: #2 That mean he's getting overweight. {X} That's right. # Interviewer: Alright that's what I was thinking about that term. {C: faint grunts in background} #1 Somebody who's easy to get along with is very. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: grunts} # #1 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 He has a good disposition you say # he's very he's always. 596: Yeah humble kind or something like that. Interviewer: Or a good. 596: Yeah got a good disposition or something. Interviewer: Alright about a horse that was easy to get along with you'd say a horse was what. {C: grunts in background from 596} 596: He's got a good conditioned horse. Interviewer: You ever say good natured? 596: #1 Yessum well that's right good natured that's right. # Interviewer: #2 The horse. # #1 He's a good natured horse? # 596: #2 Yessum mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Would you ever say that about a person? 596: Well a good natured person we say {X} he's good natured. Interviewer: Alright. 596: That's all you knew about him you just every time you see him he seem like the same thing good natured. Interviewer: And a boy who's in his teens is likely to be all arms and legs #1 so he can't go through the room you'd say he's awfully # 596: #2 {X} # He's tall. Interviewer: #1 I'm talking about the fact that he bumps into things. {C: something drops in background} # 596: #2 That's right. # #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 He's awfully what? # 596: Awkward. Interviewer: Alright. 596: Awkward. Interviewer: #1 And a person who gets some money but never wants to spend it you call a. # 596: #2 Well he's stingy. # Interviewer: #1 {NW} Right. {C: laughing} Um. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughs} # Interviewer: #1 So w- suppose he's someone who's always trying to get something out of somebody. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Yeah he's just a bummer. Interviewer: He's a bummer? 596: #1 Yeah he's a bummer. {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 Alright {NW}. {C: laughing} # A person who keeps on doing things that just don't make any sense you say he's just a plain {C: grunt in background} 596: Yeah he's just a regular uh he keep on {X} you mean doing something wrong? Interviewer: No just doing silly things. 596: Well I see a silly thing h- he just Interviewer: That guy's just a born. 596: He's just a fool I would say {X}. Interviewer: Would ever have any would you feel kinda funny about calling someone a fool? 596: No'm you ought not to call 'em just put that off long as you can. Don't tell him to his face unless you just have to. Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: continuous laughing} # 596: #2 He's a fool. {X} You tell somebody else why he's a fool. # Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 Beautiful beautiful. {C: while laughing} # 596: {NW} {C: still laughing} Interviewer: Oh my. If um if an old lady is still you know she's quite elderly. But she's still very #1 quick and active and gets around a lot you'd say she's mighty. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. {NW} {C: grunt} # Spry. Interviewer: Alright you'd s- ever say spry about an old gentleman? 596: Well active. Interviewer: #1 You say active about an old gentleman you tend to. # 596: #2 Yeah very active he's active that's what you say. # Interviewer: Alright do you ever say spry about young people? 596: #1 Well {X} # Interviewer: #2 Would you ever? # 596: No'm why {X} uh. Maybe if you use uh if it's a female you say she well you say well she's kinda a womanish you wanna be uh you know a spr- little too spry. If he's a man uh male we could say he's spry something like that a mannish or something like that. Interviewer: Mannish? 596: Yes. Interviewer: Alright what were you saying over here Mrs.? Auxiliary: I said frisky. Interviewer: Frisky? {NW} {C: laughing} Alright um the children are out later than usual 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 so you say I don't guess there's anything wrong # 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 but I just can't help feeling a little. # 596: Uneasy about it. Interviewer: Alright. 596: That's right. Interviewer: I don't wanna go through a graveyard in the dark because I'm. 596: #1 I'm a little {X} going down there. Little {X}. # Interviewer: #2 You're a little what? # #1 {X}? Haha {NW} {C: starts laughing} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # #1 Wouldn't say I'm afraid just I'm kinda a little {X}. {NW} {C: laughs} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: continues to laugh} # Oh and a person who gets afraid easily is kind of. 596: Yeah all the time finding boogers. Interviewer: Yeah you'd say what about him he's. 596: Well he's I don't know. I wouldn't know what you call that person always finding a booger. I don't know Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 what you call it. # #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Do you ever say he's scary? # 596: Well he's scary or crazy or Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 596: #2 uh # Foolish or just what would you call it? All the time finding a booger. Interviewer: Uh someone who is not careful {X} that he is mighty. 596: #1 Um is he he's not careful. # Interviewer: #2 He's not careful so he's. # 596: {X} He's mighty unconcerned about himself or something. Interviewer: Alright if he's m- if he's not careful so he's care-. 596: Careless. Careless. Interviewer: There's nothing really wrong with Aunt Lizzy but sometimes she acts kinda 596: Act kinda foolish act kinda curious. Interviewer: Alright do you ever say queer? 596: #1 Yessum queer that's right queer. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # 596: So many things you can put there instead. Interviewer: Alright y- would you would you use queer now? 596: #1 Yessum she usually acting a little queer. # Interviewer: #2 She acts a little queer. # #1 If a man is very sure of his own ways and # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: never wants to change 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 you might say just don't be so. # 596: Silly. Interviewer: Alright or don't be so what in your ways. 596: Yeah don't be so well if he he got a way and he just got that way all the time and nobody can't tell him worse or not but he just gonna hold that one thing well I don't know what you'd call that kind of person. Interviewer: Did you s- ever say don't be so sot in your ways or? 596: #1 Yeah well something. Something like that. # Interviewer: #2 Don't be so pigheaded or. # #1 Okay. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: grunt} # Interviewer: Somebody that you can't joke with 596: #1 {NW} {C: grunts} Well that's right. # Interviewer: #2 unle- without him losing his temper. So he's mighty what? # 596: Uh he can't joke w- w- without him losing his temper. Interviewer: And he's mighty what? 596: Well I don't know what you call him {X}. Yeah I if he {X} to joke with him I just gonna warn him no joking with me. Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 If I find him like that and he gonna lose his temper # I said well {X} right quick you gonna lose your temper so you can't joke with me. Interviewer: Would you call him fractious or 596: #1 I wo- yeah I # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 596: no'm I wouldn't call him ei- either he's a fool {X} Interviewer: Okay I know you said fractious about that {X} 596: #1 Yes that's right he's fractious alright. # Interviewer: #2 {X}. That doesn't mean he lost his temper. # 596: #1 No. # Interviewer: #2 That just meant that he. # 596: He just active you know just wants to. Interviewer: He'd do i- he'd do his own thing. 596: That's right. That's right. (C: laughing in background) Interviewer: Um I was just kidding that man I didn't know he'd get so what? 596: Get so mad get so angry. Fly off the handle we'd say. Interviewer: Alright {C: laughing in background) Uh somebody's about to lose his temper #1 you might tell him now just keep keep. # 596: #2 Yeah. {NW} {C: grunts} # Hold your temper don't lose your temper now be careful. Interviewer: #1 Or keep calm. # 596: #2 You keep silent. # Don't lose your temper. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: If you've been working very hard you say you are very 596: {NW} {C: grunt} {X} that you were very tired or something like that. Interviewer: Alright and what's just the worst you can say about that you're very very very #1 very tired. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: What's the how do you express if you just can't get up out of the chair? 596: Well you just you just fatigued you just you just don't feel like getting up. you just go out. feel like you just gonna go out. Interviewer: Okay. {C: mutter in background} And Mrs. {B} over there said give out. You ever say that? 596: #1 Well sometimes I'll do that yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Okay. # If a person has been quite well and you hear that suddenly they have some sickness 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 you'd say # well last night she {C: grunts in background} 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 she what sick? # 596: La- last night well let's see well when I seen her she was bad spry. She was bad active. Interviewer: Mm-hmm but last night she did what? 596: Well she taken sick. Interviewer: #1 Alright. Now # 596: #2 Mm-hmm all of a sudden. # Interviewer: #1 If she has to go to bed you know someone goes to bed for a long illness you'd say # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. {NW} {C: grunts twice} # Interviewer: she did what sick? 596: #1 Uh. # Interviewer: #2 It was last year that my mother what # sick? 596: #1 Uh well taken sick {X}. # Interviewer: #2 Okay I was wondering about the expression got down sick. # 596: #1 Well that's a- that's right got down sick that's right. {NW} {C: grunt} # Interviewer: #2 Do you ever use that? I wonder if got down means you know that you're bedridden. # 596: Well. Interviewer: Would you say you wo- you got down sick if you took a cold but you didn't have to go to bed? No'm I wouldn't say that no'm I wouldn't call that got down sick. Well I'd say we- if you got down sick that just like you just taken sick and just kept on until you had to go to bed with it. 596: #1 That's called got down. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # 596: Some kind uh {X} you don't have to get down {X} why you just you not down sick yeah. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 596: #2 You just sick you just ill. # Interviewer: What did you say about a cold? You say you know I #1 uh set in a draft yesterday and last night I started coughing so I did what? # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Yeah {NW} I # I'd taken a cold. Interviewer: Alright. #1 If it affect your voice you'd say I sure am? # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Yeah hoarse. # Interviewer: Okay. {C: laughs} And if you {NW} {C: makes coughing noise} 596: You've got a cough. Interviewer: Alright {C: grunt in background}. Uh if someone is supposed to take medicine. 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 And it you walk in the room and it's still there you say why haven't you # 596: #2 {NW} taken that medicine. {C: multiple grunts} # Interviewer: If you can't hear anything at all you say you're stone. 596: Mm-hmm crazy. Interviewer: #1 Stone well if you can't hear. # 596: #2 Deaf. # Yes ma'am deaf. Interviewer: #1 If a man has been working hard outside # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: and he comes in and he just wet 596: #1 Mm-hmm. {NW} Ah {C: grunt} # Interviewer: #2 you know take his shirt off and he say look how I. # 596: Look how I'm sweating or perspiring or what you'd call it. Interviewer: Alright uh and yesterday I but using sweat {C: grunt in background} 596: #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 yesterday I # what all day yesterday I. 596: Yeah I sweated all day. Interviewer: Alright. Do you remember when children a lot used to have a a big sore #1 come on their arm. It had a core in it. What were they? # 596: #2 {NW} that's right yeah. {C: multiple grunts} # We call that a riser we call that a boil. Interviewer: Ah. 596: Yessum. Interviewer: If {C: grunt in background} you opened one of those what was the stuff that came out? 596: Call that a core corruption. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Yessum mm-hmm. # Interviewer: If you have one of those on your hand 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 you hand gets bigger than it oughta be you say my hand is what? # 596: Swolled up. Interviewer: Alright and um {C: grunts in background} #1 i- it got all swolled up yesterday and it's still pretty badly. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Yes # still swolled up some today. Interviewer: If you get a blister 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 now # the stuff that comes out of a blister is? {C: grunts in background} 596: We call that a watering blister. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: In a war if a bullet goes through your arm you say you have a bullet. {C: grunts in background} 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Bullet what? 596: #1 In the in the arm? # Interviewer: #2 Yeah fo- if you get a # um a bullet in your arm in a war you say you have a bullet what? {C: grunts in background} 596: Uh bullet wound. Interviewer: And if it doesn't heal right {C: grunts in background} there he goes again. {C: background noise} #1 If it doesn't heal right you'll sometimes get a little raised # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: place around the the what the wound 596: #1 Yessum. {NW} {C: grunts} # Interviewer: #2 and some white stuff around it and some kind of flesh. # 596: Yeah. #1 Proud flesh we call it. # Interviewer: #2 Aha. # 596: #1 Yeah proud flesh. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laughs} # Do you still hear about that much? 596: No'm not so much you know. {X} they soon go to the doctor now. They don't take no chances on it. Yes we go to the doctor now and th- the doctor gives something to us. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Yes ma'am. # Interviewer: If you get a little cut on your finger what do you put on it? To keep it from getting infected. 596: Well we put some kind of disinfect on it. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Something to kill the poison out or something like that. # Interviewer: #1 Some people call it {X} some people. # 596: #2 {X} or iodine or something like that. # Interviewer: Alright and there's some medicine you used to take for malaria. 596: Yessum. Uh for malaria fever. Interviewer: Uh-huh. 596: When I well I remember I had malaria fever {X} strong medicine called Oxidine oxidine I believe yeah. {Gave us those. Bitter just bitter as gall. But it's good for that malaria. Interviewer: Does malaria come back after you've had it? 596: #1 Well it la- no'm. # Interviewer: #2 When you get rid of it. # 596: what do you mean like come back it takes so long for you to get it out of your system. Interviewer: #1 Really? # 596: #2 Takes so long for you to get it out of your system it just # stays with you long time. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 When did you have malaria? # 596: Ma'am? Interviewer: #1 When did you have it? # 596: #2 Oh it's been about # #1 now that was nineteen thirty three I believe it was. Yeah thirty three sure was. # Interviewer: #2 Is that right? # 596: Nineteen thirty three I'd taken so much medicine. Til I went to a a dru- a drugist one day a doctor He said when I don't take more medi- you've done taken enough. Just try just try quitting. When I quit well I got better. Interviewer: #1 {NW} I think you were sick from the medicine. {C: laughs while speaking} # 596: #2 {NW} I did. {C: laugh} # Well I was taking so much of it I I I I I told him I done taken so much and nothing ain't turn no good and he said why don't you just try quitting? Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 I just quit. # And sure enough I didn't I I got better. Interviewer: #1 Oh that's funny. {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 That's right. Right. # Interviewer: Alright um if {C: background thumping noise} a man was shot {C: background thumping noise} and he didn't recover you would say he did what? 596: #1 Well he died you'd say. # Interviewer: #2 Alright is there a # nice way of saying it so as not to t- to spare people? 596: Well you'd say he passed. Interviewer: Alright is there a joking way that people refer to it ever? 596: N- well let's see let's see if he got shot and didn't get well and he died or he he passed or some folks use an old word well he croaked. #1 But I didn't say anything. Yessum. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} That'd be kinda rude. {C: laughs} # #1 Say he croaked. # 596: #2 Yessum. # Interviewer: #1 Alright um # 596: #2 Something like that. # Interviewer: I don't know what he died talking about you know the disease I don't know what he died what? {NS} {C: birds chirping} 596: #1 Y- you say well I don't # Interviewer: #2 Uh talking about the disease he had {C: bird chirp in background} # 596: #1 Yessum. Yeah. {NW} {C: grunts} # Interviewer: #2 somebody might say well you know what caused him to die and you say I don't know what he died. # 596: I don't know what he died with. Well he h- h- he de- he dies. I don't know what he died with but he dead. Interviewer: Alright. Uh and a place where people are buried 596: {NW} {C: grunt} Interviewer: is 596: Graveyard or cemetery y- you'd call it. Interviewer: Alright suppose it was a little family plot. 596: Well that's a little family cemetery we'd call it. Interviewer: Alright suppose it were next to a church. 596: Well that's a church cemetery church graveyard you'd say. Interviewer: #1 So the cemetery and graveyard are the same thing. # 596: #2 Yeah it's the same same thing. # Interviewer: What about one of those great big ones in the city? 596: Well I I'd guess it'd be about the same thing. #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Would you ever call it a graveyard? # 596: Well a big cemetery I'd call it. Interviewer: Or you wouldn't tend to call those big the ones in the city. 596: Well I #1 that's just a big cemetery {X}. # Interviewer: #2 You wouldn't tend to call it a graveyard? # 596: Well no'm I reckon not in a way but I don't know what else to call it. Interviewer: #1 Okay. Alright that's {C: laughs while speaking} # 596: #2 Yes I wouldn't know what else to call it. {X} # Now what would you call it now a a big place right there in the city with the buried people? Interviewer: It depends. Um i- generally you tend to think of a graveyard most people tend to think of a graveyard as not being #1 one of those big commercial things. # 596: #2 Sure enough. # #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 A graveyard they tend to think of as being something # more #1 private like a church owned graveyard or something. But it varies # 596: #2 I see. Yeah mm-hmm. # Interviewer: from place to place. 596: Sure enough. Interviewer: #1 Mm-hmm. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #1 You don't often find anyone referring to the one in town as a graveyard but # 596: #2 No mm-hmm. # Interviewer: there are some people who do. 596: #1 Yes ma'am. No no no I see. # Interviewer: #2 There's no correct answer right or wrong about it. # #1 It's all on how we get it in our heads. # 596: #2 That's right that's right. # Interviewer: When a person dies you put him the body in a. 596: In a coffin. Interviewer: #1 Alright uh # 596: #2 Uh. # Interviewer: Is that the part now this is the part that you carry it's not the the part that's down in the grave 596: #1 {NW} {C: grunts} # Interviewer: #2 before you put before you bury. # 596: When a person dies they're put a funeral home first. Interviewer: Yeah I'm thinking about the box. 596: Yessum the box yessum. Yeah you well you put 'em in a {C: bird chirp in background} When you get 'em ready {X} next thing they got to lay 'em out They put them in th- the coffin now they do. {C: bird chirp in background} And uh and around we call 'em coffins but it's {C: background thumping noise} Interviewer: #1 Forgotten anything. # 596: #2 Yessum that's right. # Interviewer: Is that the same as a casket? 596: #1 Yessum casket that's what I was trying to say all the time trying to say casket but forgot it. # Interviewer: #2 Alright now coffin and casket though are # 596: #1 N- ah no'm this is a little different. # Interviewer: #2 exactly the same thing. # 596: #1 What's the difference? # Interviewer: #2 Your uh coffin that's what folks used to make when all them person died they make that coffin # 596: and put him in as a coffin it's made kinda you know Interviewer: #1 It's shaped kinda like the person who died? # 596: #2 but yeah yeah that's right. # But a casket is more than a scrape. Yeah. Interviewer: #1 Ah the casket is the kind you buy then? Aha. # 596: #2 Yessum that's right that's a casket. That's a casket. # Interviewer: {D: Did you ever hear one of those called a pento?} 596: Well I don't know I might have. Interviewer: But it doesn't bring anything to your mind. 596: No no. Interviewer: Alright have you ever heard of the term wooden overcoat? 596: Mm yes ma'am {X} Interviewer: Which one would that be? 596: #1 Well that's a tha- that's what they home {X}. They used to make 'em you know. # Interviewer: #2 That's that coffin? # 596: They call 'em {X} #1 I have you putting on that wooden overcoat on like that you know yeah # Interviewer: #2 Oh I see. # 596: I didn't know a nickname for it you know. Interviewer: Alright and the cem- the ceremony at the cemetery or at the funeral home is it is the what. {C: grunts in background} 596: Well the ceremony it's jus- just like you #1 Long {X} of some kind. {C: bird chip in background} # Interviewer: #2 No I'm thinking about after someone's died. # 596: Yessum. Interviewer: What's the ceremony they hold? #1 The preacher preaches his. # 596: #2 Yessum he preach the funeral. # Yeah preach the funeral. Interviewer: And if people are dressed in black 596: #1 Yessum yessum yessum # Interviewer: #2 you say they're in they're in what? # 596: Well mourning. Interviewer: Alright and suppose you know sometimes you'll hear someone will die and then the family's really just extremely #1 grief stricken. And they cry you know for a long time and you said the family's really # 596: #2 That's right. {NW} {C: multiple grunts} # They're in mourning still in mourning you know they {X} they may have some kind of sign a long time they'll know that they's in mourning and I forgot #1 you know they not {X}. # Interviewer: #2 Alright you ever hear the term taken on? # 596: #1 Yessum yessum. # Interviewer: #2 And what does that mean what does that refer to? # 596: #1 Well # Interviewer: #2 I hear it sometime th- the people # #1 the women were really taken on. Now what does that mean? # 596: #2 Take on over the dead people that's # crying over 'em hollering over 'em screaming over the dead folk. Taken on that's what you talking about. Interviewer: Is that during the funeral or? 596: Well sometimes before the funeral come on. Interviewer: Before the funeral? 596: Yeah and sometime then after in the time of the funeral if y- you like that y- you say people sure they take on. then you know that's what they talking about. Interviewer: If somebody asks you just on the ordinary day how are you feeling today you'd say what. {C: grunts in background} Well I'd be a pretty fair I use that word myself. I'd be a fair that's what you'd call a fair. #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Well I feel pretty good I don't feel bad I feel uh right as usual feel you know I feel fair. Some say I feel pretty good. {C: bird chirp in background} Some I feel very well and all like that. #1 You gotta have something to say. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. Yeah you do don't you. # Did you ever hear something like {C: bird chirp in background} fair to middling? 596: Yeah that's right. Interviewer: #1 Have you ever heard do you ever use that? # 596: #2 Yessum I no'm I didn't use it never did. # Interviewer: If the children are out late and your wife's getting a little upset you might say to her now they'll get home alright just don't 596: Yeah don't worry just don't worry now kinda be quiet they be there after a while. Interviewer: #1 Uh the disease # 596: #2 You hoping yourself # #1 ain't nothing happen to them. That's right {NW}. That's right. Well you just tryna {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} You're comforting them. {C: laughing} # 596: cheer up or something like Interviewer: Right. #1 A disease that you get in your joints is? # 596: #2 Yes ma'am. # {NW} Well joints we call that uh fever or something like that or now- nowadays we call it uh rheumatism or arthritis or something like that. Interviewer: #1 Are rheumatism and arthritis the same thing? # 596: #2 Yessum that's about the same thing. # Interviewer: Children used to have a disease that uh in their throat where their throat got all full of blisters 596: #1 Yessum. # Interviewer: #2 it was called dip- # 596: Diphtheria. That {X} that's rough. #1 We had a child had diphtheria. Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Oh did you? # 596: And then #1 the doctor gave him a shot {X} cured him of it. Cured him of it. # Interviewer: #2 Is that right? # #1 That's good. # 596: #2 Gave him that shot that evening and said now if you living # by morning you come back and report it. Next morning he was living and went back and reported it. He said well he wrote it down put it down he said well that's another case that we was able to stop. Interviewer: Is that right this must've been a long time ago. 596: #1 Yessum it was. # Interviewer: #2 Back when they were trying out cures for it. # 596: Yessum that was around that was nineteen twenty nine I believe it was. Interviewer: #1 Oh that was when they were still finding it and {X}. # 596: #2 Yessum. That's right yeah. # Interviewer: Good. {C: background noise} Uh there's also a disease where your skin and yo- or or your eyeballs or something turns yellow. 596: Yes ma'am yellow jaundice. Interviewer: #1 I see. # 596: #2 Yessum. # Interviewer: Um #1 when you have a pain down your right side you mi- you might have what. # 596: #2 Yeah. # Mm-hmm appendix or something like that. Interviewer: Alright did they used to call it cramp colic? 596: Yessum cramp colic or something like that. You was willing it to be camp cramp colic cuz yo- you wouldn't want it to be appendix cuz {X} to be operated. Interviewer: #1 Yeah then c- cramp colic is not the same thing as {X}. # 596: #2 No ma'am. No {NW}. {C: grunts} # Interviewer: If a man eats something that's not that won't agree didn't agree with him. 596: #1 Yeah. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 And it just wouldn't stay down he said he had to what. # 596: Well he uh he had a {X}. Interviewer: #1 Yeah but if he had to you know if it wouldn't stay # 596: #2 Oh yeah he vomit. # Interviewer: #1 Alright. {C: laughs while speaking} # 596: #2 Yeah he vomit. # Interviewer: Is there a nice way of saying it what's the nicest way you can say that? {C: grunts in background} 596: Well you say he puked you s- Interviewer: #1 Now that's not the nicest way I know is it? {NW} {C: laughs} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughs} # Well now vomit {X} Interviewer: #1 Vomit's better than that? # 596: #2 Uh heave or something like that. # Vomit or heave. That's about a nice way you can say it wouldn't it? Interviewer: #1 Okay and puke is not too g- great. # 596: #2 Yeah. Mm-hmm no that's a I think about a buzzard when you see that. # Interviewer: Oh really? 596: #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} Why do you think about a buzzard? # 596: Well that's what he do you know. Interviewer: #1 Oh really? # 596: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: I didn't know that. 596: Oh yeah buzzards that's what he yeah he puke that that's that's that's about the only thing they do on a regular. {X} Interviewer: #1 Is there a # 596: #2 That's just an old word we use you know. # Interviewer: Oh sure. And then if if you say a person vomited talking about his stomach 596: Yeah. Interviewer: you say he was sick. 596: Yes. Sick on his stomach. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Yessum. # Interviewer: Um the boy is very much interested in a girl. 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And he goes to see her a lot and he hangs around you'd say he's doing what? {C: grunts in background} 596: #1 {X} courting {X} # Interviewer: #2 Ah. # 596: #1 {NW} {C: grunt} # Interviewer: #2 Is that what they would have said about you? # 596: #1 No no. # Interviewer: #2 Back in the old days? # 596: My daddy my own daddy wouldn't say that he wouldn't say it like that. Interviewer: #1 He wouldn't? # 596: #2 No he wouldn't say that he wouldn't say it like that. # Interviewer: What would he say? 596: He call he call he he he call it boy I say he said that boy's kinda smelling around #1 seeing just his girl. {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # #1 He's smelling around. {NW} {C: laughing while and after speaking} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # #1 Yeah I know he kinda smelling around that girl. {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # #1 Oh that's great. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Auxiliary: Or knocking around. 596: Yeah but he wouldn't say knocking around he just messing around. Interviewer: #1 Oh that's cute. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: Well and then if they're going together you know if he's smelling around or {C: grunts in background} #1 you'd say- I like that. {C: breaks into laughter} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: you'd say that he was her what? 596: Yeah uh nowaday they say I say that boy has a girlfriend. Interviewer: What'd they say in the old days? 596: Oh back in well they'd say this is my beau. Interviewer: #1 Beau? # 596: #2 I'd say beau {X} beau is what they say then. # Interviewer: And what would the girl be then he'd be her beau and she'd be his what? 596: Uh I don't know what di- what did they call the girl? {X} uh #1 I forget now just what'd they call them girls. # Interviewer: #2 I don't know. {C: mutter in background from auxiliary} # 596: #1 {NW} {C: laughing and a whoop at the end} # Interviewer: #2 No telling now. {C: mutter in background from auxiliary} # #1 That's right. # 596: #2 Well I don't know what # #1 I don't know. # Interviewer: #2 But you got him didn't you. # 596: #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 And you've had him a long time. {NW} {C: laughs} # 596: Woo my {X} Interviewer: #1 Oh my goodness. # 596: #2 I'm telling you. {NW} {C: grunt} # Interviewer: Uh if he asks her to marry him and she didn't want him what would you say she did to him? {C: grunt in background} 596: Well she just if she didn't want him {X}. Interviewer: #1 Eh back a long time before huh? {NW} {C: laughs at end} # 596: #2 I'm telling you that's right. # Interviewer: Well suppose that uh he asked her to marry him. 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: And she didn't wa- she decided she didn't want to marry him so you'd say she did what to him. 596: Well I say she just decided she didn't wanna marry you wouldn't couldn't say it if they're around. She fooling. Because you know. Interviewer: An wha- what would it mean that she fooled him? 596: Why if h- if she pointing at him and didn't marry that's fooling. Interviewer: I see. 596: #1 Yes that's fooling. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 I see. # #1 Well would you say she turned him down or she threw him over or. # 596: #2 Well yeah something like that or # something like that. You see she put him down or something like that. Interviewer: Alright. Uh but if she said yes then they'd go ahead and get 596: Mm get married. Interviewer: Alright what's the uh at a wedding who's the man who stands up with the groom {NS} {C: bird chirp} what do they call him? 596: Uh groom the man he's called a h- h- he's called a be- a groom. Interviewer: The man but and the bride but then who stand when you got married what did you call the man that stood up with you? {C: grunt in background} 596: {X} Ah I can't think now what do we call we call now one that walks out with him. Uh the best man ain't it something like it we call #1 Yeah. Yeah best man I think. # Interviewer: #2 That's one thing you call it right. # What about the girl who stands up with the bride? 596: Mm-hmm. Well I she called the best lady too I think we call her. What's that? Auxiliary: Bride maiden. 596: Well I something like that I don't know I I. Interviewer: Okay Mrs. {B} said the bridesmaid. {C: need to bleep out name here}. 596: #1 Probably so. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 So that's one thing that they call it right. # 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Auxiliary: #2 {X} # Interviewer: Did you ever hear after a wedding 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: of people coming round the house where the couple was #1 and banging on pots and pans. # 596: #2 Yes ma'am. # Interviewer: What's that called? 596: Called shivaree. Interviewer: #1 Ah. # 596: #2 I used to be good at that. # Interviewer: #1 Did you? Tell me about it. # 596: #2 Ooh. {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: What did you do? 596: Oh we go round them them rang bells and shoot guns and do other things. Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 And jus- just # Yes. {NW} #1 {NW} {C: continues to laugh} # Interviewer: #2 Oh yeah Mrs. {B} says you were were a main leader of that. # 596: Woo. Interviewer: #1 Was this done the night uh after the wedding? Wedding night. # 596: #2 Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am the wedding night. # Interviewer: Okay then wha- what would make you stop did they have to invite you in or do anything to you? 596: No we just stopped maybe we'd have sense we'd have the sense maybe just after a while. Interviewer: {NW} {C: laughs} Do they ever give you anything for doing it? 596: No not a thing. #1 No not a thing. # Interviewer: #2 And it didn't indicate th- th- that you didn't like the fact that they got married. # #1 You just a a way of teasing 'em. # 596: #2 Yes ma'am. I just # why in fact I just reckon I know one couple got mad and we didn't shivaree him. He #1 he didn't like it a bit. {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # #1 Oh I like that. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # He didn't like it he says uh I thought y'all was gonna come around and {X}. No we ain't getting around I bet y'all was scared I wasn't gonna bother you. No we didn't know what you might do we know #1 We just didn't get a round to him {X} but he didn't like that a bit he thought. Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 You insulted him. # 596: well he #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Did were you all shivaree when you were married? # 596: #1 No'm did the shivaree? I don't believe they did I I # Auxiliary: #2 No. # 596: That's one time I didn't have to reap what I sow. Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: Laughing} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: Laughing} {C: auxiliary mutter in background} # #1 {NW} {C: continues to laugh} # Interviewer: #2 Is that right? {NW} {C: continues to laugh} # Oh that's a shame. That's really a shame {C: laughing from 569 and auxiliary in background} Auxiliary: #1 {X} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: Oh that's great {NW}. {C: continues to laugh}. Did you do it after you were married did you still 596: #1 I did I did I kinda # Interviewer: #2 {X}? # 596: kept you know still carried it on for a while. Interviewer: Oh that's cute I like where was this uh #1 this was in Franklin County? # 596: #2 Yes ma'am it was in Franklin County. # Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a {X} done around here? 596: No'm I never did no'm I never hear of it not nowhere. No'm I just heard it played out Interviewer: #1 Yeah things do don't they. # 596: #2 {X} # Oh we used to spend some time shivareeing wouldn't let nobody get by. Interviewer: #1 You wouldn't now. {NW} {C: laughs} # 596: #2 No. # Nuh-uh they can sit up late if you want to but they gonna go to bed after a while if they don't we gonna ease up on top of the house and pour water down the chimney and put the fire out #1 and all that. And all that and all. # Interviewer: #2 You're kidding. # #1 You put water down the chimney and put the fire out? # 596: #2 Down the chimney and put the fire out you know {X} # The only thing would be with the lights all lights and nothing like that put the fire out and leave 'em in the dark and oh all them bells rang guns a shooting and all like that. Interviewer: Oh tha- that's great. Uh if talking about you know a whole uh a lot of people #1 all together you know # 596: #2 Yeah, yeah. # Interviewer: and they were doing something bad. 596: {NW} {C: grunt} Interviewer: #1 you know r- raising a ruckus you might say the police came and arrested the # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. {NW} Mm-hmm. {C: multiple grunts} # So many of them like that. Interviewer: #1 Or if they arrested all of them you'd say arrested the what. # 596: #2 Yeah. Mm-hmm. # A whole bunch of 'em he caught 'em a whole bunch #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # Uh when people a long time ago people used to to have entertainment maybe in houses and they'd have something called maybe a square a square what? Where they you know had music and um 596: Square dance? Interviewer: #1 Yeah did you all ever have any dances in the house? # 596: #2 No no sure didn't. # Interviewer: #1 You didn't do any square dances you have any kind of dances? # 596: #2 No. # No'm we didn't back it around here where we was just sometime on Saturday night just have a we call a break down #1 something like yessum. # Interviewer: #2 Break down? What was that like? # 596: Oh that was some dancing and going on like that like that maybe start selling something you know a little party #1 {X} dancing or something like that. # Interviewer: #2 Was that at a home or- # 596: Well maybe at a somebody's house locally at somebody's house you know. Interviewer: You spent your time shivareeing. 596: #1 Yessum that's right. {C: loud sharp background noise} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laugh} # Oh my. Uh if a boy left home to go to school and he didn't show up at school 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: is it getting late for you? 596: #1 Yes no that's alright. # Interviewer: #2 We're just almost through. # 596: That's alright. That's alright. That's alright. Interviewer: #1 What time do you # 596: #2 I ain't got nothing I ain't got nothing to do but sit here twenty five minute past six. # Interviewer: #1 Oh is it that late? When do you eat dinner though? # 596: #2 Yessum. # We since you live here we. Yessum. Interviewer: It's not getting around toward time to eat again? 596: No it's alright no that's alright. Interviewer: You said it was it was what time I'm sorry? What time did you tell me it was? 596: Uh it's uh twenty-five past six. Interviewer: That means it's almost what it's what. 596: Yessum it's going on toward seven. Interviewer: #1 Okay. # 596: #2 Yessum {X} six-thirty. # Interviewer: Would you ever say {X} into another question 596: #1 {NW} {C: grunt} # Interviewer: #2 Would you ever say half past six? # 596: Yessum I say it sometimes ha- half past six. Interviewer: Suppose you know suppose it was six-thirty 596: #1 Well that's # Interviewer: #2 and it was fifteen minutes # later than that {C: grunt in background}. 596: #1 Mm-hmm. Well I say I say it's uh # Interviewer: #2 How would you tell me what time? # 596: uh six forty-five. Interviewer: Okay would you ever say quarter to seven? 596: Yessum quarter to seven something like that just the same like that six forty-five or quarter to seven. Interviewer: Either one. 596: #1 Yessum. Yessum that's right. # Interviewer: #2 You wouldn't use one more than the other? # Alright. 596: That's right. Interviewer: Uh #1 let's say I started to ask you a boy left home to go to school he didn't get there you say he did what. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # Well he we call that uh {X} we call that now? uh there was a boy who used to do that round here in this country. #1 I think- # Interviewer: #2 Played. # 596: Ma'am? Interviewer: He played. 596: Uh I can't call I know what I'm talking about but I can- I just can't #1 can't call that what y- what you call that. # Interviewer: #2 Is it played hooky? # 596: #1 Well no- now that's what I'm trying to say. # Interviewer: #2 Aha. # 596: #1 That's what I'm trying to say but it just got away from my mind. # Interviewer: #2 {NW} {C: laugh} # #1 Oh that's only two things. I think you're still pretty good. # 596: #2 Yeah. Played hooky. Yeah. # Played hooky that's what I was trying to say but it just wouldn't #1 my mind wouldn't say hooky. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah well I'm st- I found that problem # 596: #1 Yeah. Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 even with me. # You go to college in order to get a good what. 596: Uh get a good college learning. Interviewer: Alright or a good e-. 596: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 A good edu-. # 596: Education. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 That's right. # Interviewer: Uh and after high school you might go on to 596: Yeah you go on to college and you finish your twelfth grade we call that no go on to entering college. Interviewer: Alright and what's the first uh when a child enters school 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 first time you'd say what's the first thing he goes into? # 596: Well it used to be way back in my day alphabet. Interviewer: Really? 596: Yeah it used to be in my day and time. Interviewer: What do they call it now? What is it try- is there a a grade or 596: Call call it uh uh primer primer or primary who do you call that first little grade. Auxiliary: Kindergarten. 596: Hmm? Auxiliary: Kindergarten. 596: Kindergarten? Why do y- why that kindergarten means that you just not started. Interviewer: You know after kindergarten. 596: Yessum. Then you go to school after kindergarten. Interviewer: Yeah would that be the the first reader or the first #1 class? # 596: #2 N- well I first grade yessum wouldn't be the first p- primer I reckon. # Interviewer: Okay. 596: We used to call it primer. Interviewer: #1 Used to call it primer {X}. # 596: #2 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah we used to call it primer. # #1 Yeah. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # 596: If you leave your your A B C that what we call um. alphabet the next with the primer Interviewer: When you go to school you sit at a you sit down at a 596: Y- 'em at a desk you mean? Interviewer: Uh-huh if you have more than one of those the room has thirty-five what desks? {C: grunts in background} 596: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Thirty-five what? 596: Uh seats. Interviewer: Or {X} and desks. 596: #1 Yessum. # Interviewer: #2 There's thirty-five. # 596: Desks. #1 Yeah. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Alright. # Um #1 you sta- if you go into a strange town you stay overnight at a what? # 596: #2 {NW} {C: multiple grunts} # Well at a hotel. Interviewer: #1 Alright. And you # 596: #2 Or a motel. # Interviewer: #1 might go see a movie at a at a what. # 596: #2 Yeah. Mm-hmm. # At a picture show. Interviewer: Alright or is there anything else they would call it a thea-? 596: Let's see a movie sure #1 A theater. Yes ma'am. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Alright good. # Um when you went to the hospital your doctor was there but there was a woman too who looked after you. 596: #1 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 She was a. # 596: Nurse. Interviewer: And where do you catch a train? 596: Ma'am? Interviewer: #1 You catch a train at the # 596: #2 The station. # Interviewer: Alright you might call it the rail 596: Railroad. The railroad station. Interviewer: Alright. Uh do you ever call it a depot? 596: #1 Depot yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #2 Depot now? Alright. # Is that an old word you think? 596: Ma'am? Interviewer: Do they still use depot? 596: No'm they don't call it no no depot. Interviewer: #1 That's an old old. # 596: #2 Yeah that's just an old way of using it. # Interviewer: Alright if you are walking say this is a room. 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: If you walk across the room this way you say you're walking across it how? 596: Uh angling. Interviewer: #1 Angling? Alright. # 596: #2 Yeah angling. Yeah. # Interviewer: #1 Suppose there was a piece of furniture sitting in a corner you know across the corner. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Yessum. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: How would you say the cor- furniture was sitting? 596: Across the corner. Interviewer: #1 Uh-huh. # 596: #2 We call it catty corner. # Interviewer: #1 Alright. {NW} {C: laughing} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughing} # Interviewer: #1 You like that? {NW} {C: continues to laugh} # 596: #2 Yeah.{NW} {C: continues to laugh} # Interviewer: #1 I like that word. # 596: #2 {NW} {C: continues laughing} # Interviewer: Um back over in Jackson I'm told they used to have some things that you rode on in town that had tracks 596: Yes. Interviewer: and a wire. 596: #1 Ah that's right that's right. # Interviewer: #2 That wa- those were what? # 596: Street car. Interviewer: If you were riding on one of those and you saw your stop coming up you might say to the conductor I want. 596: Yessum. Interviewer: I want what? 596: On uh uh I want a street car I want a ride. Interviewer: If you were on it though. 596: Yessum I wanna stop. Yessum I wanna stop. Interviewer: Alright I wanna get 596: Yeah I wanna get off here. You rang that bell {NS} {C: sound of fist pounding} like that he'd stop Interviewer: #1 {NW} {C: laughs} # 596: #2 and let you off. # Interviewer: Did you ever ride 'em? 596: That's right. Yes ma'am I ride 'em oh down in New Orleans. And in Nashville. I used to go to Nashville. Interviewer: #1 Alright. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Uh in Lincoln County talking about where the government is you know you'd say in Lincoln County Brook Haven is the what of Lincoln County? 596: Capital of Lincoln County somebody will say. Interviewer: Alright. Um and if you are a postmaster you get paid by the federal 596: Government. Interviewer: And the police in the town are supposed to maintain what? 596: Uh uh peace yes ma'am. Interviewer: Alright and there's something else kind of a catch word that people start using. Uh you so- sometimes put it together with order. They're supposed to maintain what? 596: Uh order. {X} Maintain Interviewer: The law. 596: Let's see. I don't know what you call it but he's that he's that Interviewer: You can say it a little louder if you want to. 596: He gotta keep peace. And uh Auxiliary: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 Very good. # #1 You can say it louder so he can hear you. # Auxiliary: #2 I said law. # Interviewer: Law and 596: Oh lord yeah that's his business Interviewer: Law and order? 596: Law and order why sure that's right. Interviewer: #1 You ha- you know when these political candidates get up they say we're get tough and we're gonna have # 596: #2 Yeah. # Interviewer: #1 better what law? # 596: #2 Yeah law that's right laws and all of that. # He say that he gonna do that until he get in. Interviewer: #1 {NW} Right. {C: laughs} # 596: #2 {NW} {C: laughs} # Interviewer: Uh the fight between the Northern and the Southern states uh that was called around here they call that the what? 596: Uh between the North and the South? Interviewer: Yes sir. 596: Why they used to have what'd they call 'em uh uh the Mason-Dixon line was crossed there uh uh between the whites and the and the coloreds. Interviewer: No I'm thinking more about back in the eighteen hundreds about eighteen sixty-five. 596: Yes. Interviewer: They had the war you know the North fought the South. 596: Yessum well tha- well that was was that the Civil War? Interviewer: #1 Uh would tha- would that be what they call it around here? Alright. # 596: #2 I think so yeah the Civil War. # Yeah that's the Civil War. Interviewer: Alright I need to try to #1 to wor- to get you to say some state names for me. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: And we'll just play around with this and see how it works out. It's not I'm not #1 testing you in any way. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: #1 And I want to get you to say the state for me so I'll see how they pronounce the state here. # 596: #2 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Example New Orleans is in what state? 596: #1 Uh in Louisiana. Louisiana. {NW} {C: grunts} # Interviewer: #2 Okay you know in some parts of the country. Around here they say Louisiana. # 596: #1 Yes ma'am. # Interviewer: #2 Well in some parts of the country they pronounce it Louisiana. # 596: #1 Yessum. Yes ma'am. # Interviewer: #2 You've heard that haven't you? # Okay so what this is the point of this little group of questions to see how they pronounce {X} {C: reel distorts and fades into silence}