Interviewer: uh up in the the East there's a state the city is Baltimore 596: Baltimore Interviewer: What state would that 596: That's in Maryland, ain't it? Interviewer: alright and Roanoke is in 596: Virginia? Interviewer: Raleigh? 596: North Carolina Interviewer: Charleston? 596: South Carolina. Interviewer: Atlanta? 596: Georgia. Interviewer: Uh Tallahassee? 596: Florida. Interviewer: Birmingham? 596: Alabama. Interviewer: Uh Louisville? 596: Kentucky. Interviewer: Um Memphis? 596: Tennessee. Interviewer: Saint Louis? 596: Missouri. Interviewer: Little Rock? 596: Arkansas. Interviewer: Uh and this State is 596: uh Interviewer: What we're in. This- 596: Uh I mean uh our state is in uh Mississippi #1 Jackson Mississippi Jackson Mississippi # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Oh you were doing so well I sure hate to trip you on your own state 596: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 596: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # 596: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 Uh # Dallas? 596: Texas. Interviewer: Uh Tulsa? 596: Oklahoma. Interviewer: Boston? 596: Massachusetts. Interviewer: Alright and Albany? 596: Georgia Interviewer: Okay that's what I was afraid you were gonna say. {NW} there's another Albany 596: {X}. Interviewer: Uh-huh up in what's the big state up north where they been having the power problems lately um the state and the city have the same name it's new 596: New Hampshire or New Jer-Jersey or Interviewer: Keep trying you're right next to it 596: New Hampshire New Jersey new Interviewer: New Yo- 596: New York or Interviewer: that's what I was looking for- 596: #1 Yes I'd say # Interviewer: #2 okay # you'd call that new- instead of saying it's New York City you'd say it's New York what 596: N- New York City? Interviewer: Or New York 596: Albany New York Ne-New York or uh Interviewer: New York state? 596: Yeah New York State now Interviewer: okay to make the difference 596: that's right yeah Interviewer: Alright and then if that group of states up there Maine Connecticut Vermont New Hampshire they're all called the what states the new 596: Where what states? Interviewer: Yeah the new england 596: new england yes ma'am Interviewer: Yeah they- they're called the what states? the new england states? 596: yeah the new england or new england I think I heard it Interviewer: That's fine 596: Yes Interviewer: Alright now I'm gonna give you um a state and try to get what do I hear down there 596: Crows Interviewer: Really what are they there for 596: Ah they chasing something maybe a hawk or just something the other day that's chasing 'em around maybe a bird or something Interviewer: Oh really I hadn't heard 'em before 596: Yeah them's crows Interviewer: your mule has been quiet 596: Yeah Interviewer: Do you have to feed him at night? 596: No ma'am I feed him every morning but I see he been getting up here all day I I I just he he's a sport you now right Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Alright now we'll go backward until I give you the State and Let you you know play around with trying to give me the city 596: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Okay the city we were talking about in Maryland is Bal- 596: Baltimore. Interviewer: Alright and Missouri? Saint 596: uh St. Louis? Interviewer: Alright I'll give you the first sound of the 596: Yeah Interviewer: In South Carolina it's Charl- 596: Charleston mm-hmm Interviewer: In Alabama it's Bir- 596: Um Birmingham Interviewer: In Illinois it's 596: It's Chicago Interviewer: In Alabama there are a couple of them #1 there besides Birmingham there's Mont- # 596: #2 Mm-hmm mm-hmm # Montgomery Alabama Interviewer: and mo 596: and mobile. Interviewer: Alright and in North Carolina there's a place called Ash- 596: Ash Ashton wasn't it? Interviewer: Uh Asheville? 596: Asheville yeah Asheville Interviewer: in Tennessee 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: there are four big cities 596: yes ma'am Interviewer: There's Mem- 596: Um Te- Memphis? Interviewer: Uh-huh there's Nash 596: Um oh uh um Interviewer: Ah you have company 596: no ma'am don't know who that is Auxillary: can you tell me where {X} is {NS} 596: Who that? Interviewer: Clarabelle {B} Auxillary: Clarabelle {B} 596: no ma'am I don't know- I don't believe I know ms. it's on the smith lake road? I don't believe I know 'em Auxillary: {X} 596: yes ma'am. Interviewer: You're in a handy place for people to ask directions 596: Yes for sure {NW} Clarabelle {B} Interviewer: Never heard of her cause {X} 596: I don't know any Interviewer: They may be on the wrong road 596: Yeah that's about what there Auxillary: {X} 596: #1 No uh-huh # Interviewer: #2 That's true # 596: But I don't know no {B} around here. Interviewer: Mm Uh Let's see we were talking about cities in Tennessee 596: That's it Interviewer: Alright there's Memphis 596: #1 In Me- Memphis Tennessee, Memphis # Interviewer: #2 In Tennessee there's cit- and Na- # 596: Nashville Tennessee Interviewer: and Kno- 596: Knoxville Tennessee Interviewer: And Cha- 596: Chattanooga Tennessee Interviewer: In Georgia there's Atlan- 596: Atlanta Georgia Interviewer: And Sava- 596: s- uh Sava- S- uh Savannah Georgia Interviewer: Good 596: And a Interviewer: Colum- 596: Uh What that? Interviewer: Colum- 596: Columbus Georgia Interviewer: And what about Ma- 596: Mm Mac- uh Interviewer: Macon? 596: Macon Macon I'd say Macon Georgia Interviewer: Alright 596: Mm-hmm Interviewer: And in Louisiana or Louisiana new 596: Well now New Orleans Interviewer: And Bat- 596: Baton Rouge Interviewer: #1 and yeah # 596: #2 {D: and Bogalusa} # And all in a Interviewer: in Ohio there's Cin- 596: Cincinnati Interviewer: In Kentucky there's Louie 596: Louisville Kentucky Interviewer: And the city where the government's located you know in the Federal government that's what? 596: #1 um # Interviewer: #2 what's the # place where the federal government's located? 596: mm-hmm the federal- the federal Interviewer: wash 596: Washington DC? Interviewer: Alright 596: Mm-hmm Interviewer: Before they had an electric chair, murderers were 596: uh before it had electric chair? Interviewer: Mm-hmm What'd they do to murderers 596: Why the hung used to hang 'em #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 okay # You'd say that um the murderer was what was 596: Wha- the murderer Interviewer: was 596: mm well I let's see we I understanding {NS} now you- you'd have they got electric chair now Interviewer: uh-huh back in the old days we're talking about hanging him 596: yes ma'am Interviewer: you'd say the murderer was what? 596: well I well I don't know what you'd call the murderer. Interviewer: Hung 596: Hung yes we say he was hanged Interviewer: he was hanged #1 yeah that's what I was trying to find out # 596: #2 yeah yes well he was hanged # Interviewer: And if he did it to- if a man did it to himself #1 you'd say # 596: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: he did what himself 596: Well you'd say a- a murder he he he committed suicide Interviewer: yeah but he- would you say he hanged himself 596: well hanged himself yes. yeah Interviewer: or hung himself? 596: well he hung himself or hanged himself either one and we- either one that'd do Interviewer: okay uh talking about um on Sunday morning you go to on Sunday morning #1 Sometime # 596: #2 Mm-hmm # Interviewer: People go to 596: I'd go to Sunday School Church Interviewer: #1 Alright # 596: #2 Mm-hmm # Interviewer: If someone becomes a member of the church they'd say they did what? 596: #1 ch- # Interviewer: #2 They- # 596: he join the church yes ma'am Interviewer: Alright in church you pray to 596: pray to the Lord Interviewer: or G 596: you'd pray to God yes ma'am Interviewer: and if you're not serving God who are you serving 596: You serving the devil and serving his heart. Interviewer: Alright {NS} uh in church the preacher preaches a 596: Sermon he yes ma'am preaches them. Ought to preach a a message Interviewer: Alright and there- in some churches they have a choir and an organ {X} 596: Yes ma'am Interviewer: #1 and they # 596: #2 that's right # Interviewer: provide the what? 596: music Interviewer: right. If you had a flat tire on the way to church 596: Mm-hmm Interviewer: You might say ah church is gonna be over 596: Gonna be late I'm gonna be late for church {X}. Interviewer: It's gonna be over what 596: Over that's what church'll be over before I get there Interviewer: Alright 596: {X} get there before they say the benediction Interviewer: Is there any joking way that people refer to the devil? 596: Yes in all kind of Interviewer: #1 what do they call him? # 596: #2 ways # Well they call him call him Devil that why they call him boogeyman Interviewer: Ah 596: tell little children that the boogeyman gonna get you and all like that and call him Satan And they always call him all kinda names you know mm-hmm Interviewer: Alright what ab- People sometime think they see them at night around a graveyard 596: Well I dare say I seen a gh- gh- ghost or something like a bat or something like that. Interviewer: Alright and a house where these thing's might l- 596: Yeah call that Haunted Interviewer: Uh-huh 596: They called haunted house Interviewer: Do you ever call a ghost haunts? or haunts? 596: Yes ma'am but they call a ghost I guess so #1 I mean but # Interviewer: #2 I mean did # People ever use that term back in the old days? 596: Yes ma'am he did he did they'd say a spirit that what they say. Interviewer: A spirit? 596: yes ma'am Interviewer: {C: laughter} 596: he wouldn't say a spirit be a spirit {C: pronunciation} Interviewer: a spirit {C: pronunciation} #1 That's interesting # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Alright if a man owns a five hundred let's say five hundred acres of land 596: Mm-hmm Interviewer: And somebody says how much land does that man own? You didn't know it was five hundred acres #1 Exactly # 596: #2 no, mm-hmm. # Interviewer: and you just wanted to tell him that it was a good bit you might say well he owns a what of land? he owns a 596: yeah he's got maybe five hundred acres or more #1 um something like that # Interviewer: #2 if you didn't # Know though that he owned five hundred acres you'd want to illu- you know tell the person 596: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 that he owned a # You know some land 596: yeah Interviewer: and that it was uh good bit of land 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: you might say well he owns a what of land a right 596: well uh uh well you see he owns a whole I don't know how you would call it Interviewer: Okay I- I- what I'm trying to g- find out if you say is right smart 596: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Does he own a right smart of land? 596: Yes ma'am right smart that's right he own a right smart of land don't know how much it is exactly but you own a right smart of land Interviewer: You'd be likely to say that? 596: yes. #1 More than I like # Interviewer: #2 would you say # 596: yeah Interviewer: I'm exploring how we use that would you say he was in a right smart pain? 596: In a right smart what? Interviewer: Right smart pain? 596: No ma'am well yes actually something like that yeah I'd say he's in right smart in a right smart or so and so Interviewer: I'm talking about pain but talking about pain 596: Yeah Interviewer: And I'm trying to find out i- under what in what ways we'd use right smart. 596: now Interviewer: a man you know who's suffering would you say well he's a right smart of pain? 596: Well uh no ma'am I'd say he's in right smart misery Interviewer: misery? #1 Okay # 596: #2 yeah yeah # How he's in the right smart of misery. Interviewer: alright would you say he has a right smart of money? 596: Yes ma'am I say it like that Interviewer: He has had a right smart of trouble? 596: Yes ma'am that's right {X} say it like that. Interviewer: He's had a right smart of good luck? 596: Well h- well he has been well I could say it like that Interviewer: #1 you could # 596: #2 you see yes # Interviewer: #1 alright # 596: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: what about- would you say he's had a right smart of bad luck? 596: well yes ma'am I could #1 say it like that. # Interviewer: #2 And one more # thing would you ever say it's rained a right smart here? 596: yes ma'am that's right I say it like that. {NS} Interviewer: Okay {NS} {NS} Uh when you meet someone o- on the street you know that you know well 596: yeah Interviewer: friend how do you great them? 596: Well uh if I meet 'em I know or I maybe I walk up and shake hands with 'em and something like that. and I'd speak to 'em well I'm tell 'em I'm glad to see 'em or something like that uh or I wasn't expecting to see you or something like that. Interviewer: Would you say anything like how you doing or how you getting along? 596: that's right yeah Interviewer: What would you be saying? What would- 596: Well I- would I be mean all the time Interviewer: {NW} 596: Yeah how you getting along how you feeling today or something like that or just you know let 'em know that I'm appreciating it. yeah Interviewer: When you're introduced to- to a stranger what would you say? 596: well if I'm {X} I walk up and tell them {NS} this is like so and so Interviewer: someone says this is mister {B} 596: #1 Ya that's right # Interviewer: #2 and you say what to the other person? # 596: Well they a a I a Interviewer: they tell you this is mister smith 596: #1 Mm-hmm # Interviewer: #2 Then what do you say/ # 596: I say well I'm glad to shake your hand mr smith or something like that Interviewer: okay um {NS} December the twenty fifth what do you say to people? 596: Well this is Christmas Interviewer: Uh-huh and what do you say? how do- what do you you wish 'em? 596: Well I wish 'em a- a Christmas and a Christmas gift and tell 'em both of 'em I say {X} put that to the hymn you know. Interviewer: uh-huh 596: Christmas Christmas gift Interviewer: and he has to what 596: yeah he- well you had {X} he something maybe, maybe he tell you about well you you have to wait {D: till I} get to Christmas or something like that you know. Mm-hmm. Interviewer: Are they supposed to give you gift when you say- 596: well they- they don't want to you just tell 'em Interviewer: #1 Well I mean # 596: #2 that # Interviewer: back in the old 596: Yes ma'am in the old days probably they Interviewer: #1 might use something # 596: #2 Was that the- # But {X} let you know {X} thinking about Christmas time. Interviewer: I'd say. Do you ever wish um a merry #1 Christmas? # 596: #2 Oh yeah. # that's right wish you a merry Christmas. Interviewer: alright um what do you say on the first of January? 596: we- well I the new year. Interviewer: Uh-huh What do you wish people? 596: well I wish you happy new year. Interviewer: Is there anything um {X} if theres anything- is there any um superstitions you know you eat something special on new years day or 596: that's what they say yeah Interviewer: do you? 596: No ma'am I don't think nothing about it {X} sure we have something to boil that day {X} black eyed peas and all like that that day so you have a you would maybe be lucky all the year to have vegetables and meat and all like that. Interviewer: ah. 596: but people you know an it is {X} Interviewer: Alright If you um have to go buy some things you say I have to go downtown to do some 596: shopping Interviewer: did they used to say something else? 596: #1 well # Interviewer: #2 Like trading? # 596: trading yes ma'am Interviewer: alright If you were gonna get groceries what do you say I'm going downtown to do what 596: make groceries hear 'em say now Interviewer: yeah now that's interesting I- I just ran across that 596: Well make groceries. Interviewer: that means to buy them? 596: Gonna buy 'em but talking about he's gonna make groceries or buy groceries what he gonna do. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 And if you # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: if you ma- if you buy something the store keeper will take a piece of paper he took a piece of paper and he what? 596: well he wrapped it. Interviewer: and when you got home you 596: you unwrapped it. yeah Interviewer: if you have to sell something for less than you paid for it you'd say You had to sell it what? 596: Well I had to sell it below cost. Interviewer: Alright if you like something real much #1 that you see in turn # 596: #2 mm-hmm mm-hmm # Interviewer: #1 you'd like to buy it but you don't have the money you said oh it what to much it co- # 596: #2 mm that's right mm # Mm-hmm. Interviewer: It what too much? 596: Yeah it is- is cost too much you'd say it cost too much. Interviewer: Alright and on the first of the month the bi- all your bills come 596: come due. Interviewer: and if you belong to a club you have to pay the 596: {D: you have to} pay the club for it. Wi- Interviewer: Alright you have to pay the club what dues? 596: Club dues thats right. Interviewer: you don't have enough money you have to go to the bank 596: #1 yeah and # Interviewer: #2 and # 596: borrow some. Interviewer: But it might be hard to get because money is really 596: that's right Interviewer: really what? 596: hard to get and money is something hard to get and sometime if you {X} if you can't get it yourself you gotta get somebody to identify you or something like that. Interviewer: okay, if something if something like that is hard to find you might say that it's really sca- 596: They are scarce. yes Interviewer: Alright, talking about children playing in the water 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: you'd say um the boy ran down to the board and he what in? 596: Ya he dive off well now dived off of there and we say dive off {X} Interviewer: okay 596: uh-huh Interviewer: and lots of boys have what off that board 596: {X} dived off that board Interviewer: #1 alright # 596: #2 {X}. # Interviewer: uh if you dive in and hit the water flat or on your stomach you call that a 596: um uh I don't know what it called we call it a flat dive Interviewer: #1 a flat dive? # 596: #2 is when # yeah Interviewer: alright um the boys wanted to get acro- well the boy wanted to get across the river so he dived in and he what? 596: swimmed on across. Interviewer: Alright and the children sure like to in that creek sure like to 596: play in that creek Interviewer: or swim 596: or swim in that creek. Interviewer: alright and I have what there myself I have 596: swim in that creek. Interviewer: #1 alright # 596: #2 {X} # Interviewer: if a child puts it's head down on the ground and picks up his feet and goes over you'd say he turned a what? 596: turned a somersault. Interviewer: #1 alright # 596: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: When you buy something or you pay your bill sometimes a store keeper will give a little present and he'll say it's for 596: Mm yeah that's for appreciation Interviewer: yeah but there's something else lan- 596: uh lagniappe Interviewer: Aha 596: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # 596: {NW} Interviewer: Do you still use that term much? 596: yes ma'am lagniappe Interviewer: #1 what di- what does lagniappe mean? # 596: #2 {X} # well I don't lagniappe I don't know it is that just old something or other Interviewer: do people ever give you lagniappe? 596: no no we don't get no lagniappe now no lagniappe giving now. Interviewer: #1 I see # 596: #2 Well you just # pay for- you- you- you pay for it now that's all I know. Interviewer: I see. 596: no lagniappe now. Interviewer: What does a baby do before he's able to walk? 596: well he crawls some of 'em do. Interviewer: alright. If a man wants to hide behind a low hedge he's got to what? 596: well he's got to get down behind. Interviewer: yeah what's the- what do you say he's doing down? He's what? 596: he's squatting down. Interviewer: alright or you ever say scrooch down #1 or hunker? # 596: #2 Well # scooch down or something he's down there some way Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: okay and if a child a game that you play with children {NS} if you'll get down behind a chair and then you'll hop up and #1 look at him you know you say he's # 596: #2 Yeah yeah # Interviewer: playing what? 596: It's peep eye. Interviewer: #1 peep eye? # 596: #2 Ya # Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: okay um if i- when he jumps out what does he say? 596: #1 well you jump out # Interviewer: #2 well what do you # say 596: why we jump out he'll laugh at me {X} you know and when you playing peep eye {X} you gonna do everything in between trying like that. Interviewer: Do you- does one of you say peep eye or boo or anything? 596: Yes ma'am. Interviewer: Which one- who 596: #1 One of you jump out and you say say # Interviewer: #2 which one says- # 596: boo like that. Ya. Interviewer: he says it- he jumps out and says boo? 596: yeah maybe I'll tell the little child that Interviewer: #1 okay # 596: #2 like that # Interviewer: either one. 596: {X} Interviewer: which one says peep eye? 596: Mm-hmm. well m- uh maybe the little child maybe maybe I be saying to the little child I say peep eye peep eye is what I say or boo like that. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: did your children ever play that? 596: oh yeah that's right. Interviewer: my little boy's doing that now and I heard myself the other night saying peep eye 596: {X} Ya. Interviewer: Uh talking about someone swimming again someone who got in the water and couldn't swim you'd say he what? 596: He drowned if you don't- if you won't get him out if he can't #1 swim. # Interviewer: #2 and that's # what I meant. I wasn't there I didn't see him- 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: didn't see him what? Dro- 596: D- I didn't see him drown. Interviewer: okay. do you ever say that he got drowneded or was 596: #1 drowneded? # Interviewer: #2 well you see # 596: yeah they see {X} got drowned you hear 'em say {X} got drownded. Interviewer: okay. 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: um you saw something up a tree and you wanted to take a closer look at it so you went over the tree and, what? 596: {X} peeped around Interviewer: Or we're talking about going up {X}. 596: Oh I climbed up the tree. Interviewer: alright, and that would be a very hard mountain to 596: to climb. Interviewer: alright and I have never what a tree in my life? I have never 596: climbed a tree Interviewer: alright now what about um I know what uh- still we use the old form of it it's clumb 596: Yeah clumb that's right clumb a tree I never clumb that tree. {X} I never did clumb a tree like this that's right. {X} word like that. Interviewer: alright {NS} uh at some churches you get down on your knees to pray 596: That's right Interviewer: you say the woman walked in the church and what to pray? she 596: bowed to #1 pray # Interviewer: #2 talking about # getting on her knees. 596: well they uh she got down {X} well you see she's going to church well you see she got down and bowed down on her knees we say #1 that or- # Interviewer: #2 or she # kne- 596: she kneeled down? Interviewer: alright fine if you're tired you'd say I think I'll go over the couch and 596: and rest right and- and relax Interviewer: Or l- 596: uh lay down {X} Interviewer: alright all he- he really didn't feel good all morning he just 596: He just drug around. Interviewer: talking about staying in bed the- all morning he 596: yeah he just lied around all the morning Interviewer: would you say he lied in bed or- 596: well he just he just he layed arou- we'd say he just laid around in all the morning. Interviewer: Fine. talking about something that you saw in your sleep, 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: you would say let me tell you what I 596: What I dream Interviewer: Aha. 596: let me tell you what I dream Interviewer: often when I go to sleep I 596: I dream something. Interviewer: but I can't always remember 596: #1 no what I # Interviewer: #2 remember what I # 596: what I dream Interviewer: alright or what I've 596: what I seen in my dreams Interviewer: what I have 596: dream dreamt about dreamed about we we said dreamt about. Interviewer: yeah I was just wondering which- if- if dreamt you know is kind of like clung 596: yes kinda like past tense Interviewer: it's there in use right and wondered if you still 596: #1 Yes ma'am. # Interviewer: #2 used it # um if a man meets a girl at a dance or a party and wants to go home with her he says to her may I 596: May I go home with you or something Interviewer: Or if they're walking? 596: May I walk with you? Ya. Interviewer: If he has a buggy? what- 596: may I may I ride with you? Interviewer: alright w- 596: or you ride with me. Interviewer: okay will do you ever say carry you home? 596: oh that's right carry her I say Interviewer: Would that mean that he had something to 596: #1 to take- yes ma'am # Interviewer: #2 put her in? # 596: that's right that's right Interviewer: {NW} okay um when you go in a door in a bank you use or some public #1 building usually have # 596: #2 yeah # Interviewer: two doors 596: that's right Interviewer: two little signs 596: that's right Interviewer: one says to open this door you gotta 596: push one of them push or other pull Interviewer: right 596: that's right one way or the other. Interviewer: right um if you needed a knife from the kitchen you'd say to mrs {B} go what me the knife? 596: you go and get me the knife. Interviewer: #1 Alright # 596: #2 Mm-hmm # Interviewer: uh in playing did you ever play hide n' seek as a child? 596: #1 yes ma'am yeah I used to # Interviewer: #2 what was the place # that you ran back to? 596: uh maybe playing with them outdoors somewhere maybe I'd run behind some places or like that. Interviewer: what's the place you run back and touch though to be safe? 596: I don't believe I {X} Interviewer: okay what other out door games did you play when you were a child like that? running around outside? 596: I don't know all I would do anything {X}. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Okay Um if some children come into your house and they're not very well behaved maybe they start playing with some things that you're afraid they're gonna #1 break? You might # 596: #2 Ya that's right # Interviewer: say to um don't you 596: uh-uh don't you break that put that down don't break that uh-uh. put it down. Interviewer: {NW} okay you throw a ball and you ask somebody to? 596: yeah Interviewer: to what it? 596: yeah to catch it. Interviewer: alright I threw the ball and he 596: #1 He # Interviewer: #2 what? # 596: caught it. Interviewer: and I've been fishing for trout but I haven't 596: I haven't caught any Interviewer: #1 Alright if someone # 596: #2 haven't caught a one. # Interviewer: says um I uh uh oh if someone says for you let's go to town you know when you're getting ready they'll say well there's no need for you to hurry I'll 596: Mm I- I'll carry Interviewer: I'll wait- 596: I'll wait. yeah {X} I'll wait. Interviewer: okay would you say I'll wait 596: I'll wait for ya. Interviewer: Alright. If a child has been yelled at or he's about to get a spanking he might say that to his mother oh mama give me another 596: Mm-hmm give me another chance. Interviewer: Aha 596: yeah Give me another chance. Interviewer: If somebody has a smile on his face and a good word for everybody 596: #1 go out there # Interviewer: #2 you'd say # well this morning he seems to be in a good 596: good humor. yeah Interviewer: if you have some um {NS} some bugs or something and you have to call somebody you know to spray for 'em 596: #1 yeah um-hum # Interviewer: #2 um or something # you'd say he's going to do what to those bugs #1 he's gonna # 596: #2 well # H- He's gonna spray 'em or he gonna t- uh Interviewer: he's gonna get what of 'em 596: he gonna get rid of 'em Interviewer: okay 596: gonna go get rid of 'em Interviewer: #1 {X} # 596: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: um talking about I know if your children are around town they you know you can't always call 'em 596: #1 no # Interviewer: #2 sometimes # you have to send a letter 596: yeah Interviewer: and you'll say I have just what him a letter 596: I just mailed him a letter Interviewer: or wro- 596: I wro- I wrote him a letter or something like that Interviewer: alright talking about the writing 596: yes ma'am Interviewer: you'd say yesterday he what me a letter 596: #1 yeah he wrote it he wrote me a letter # Interviewer: #2 yesterday # 596: he wrote me a letter. Interviewer: and tomorrow I'll 596: I'll get it Interviewer: I'll what to him 596: I'll mail it uh Interviewer: I'll 596: I'll mail it one back to him Interviewer: or I'll wr- 596: I'll write him one Interviewer: Ha-ha. 596: yes ma'am Interviewer: okay uh and now that that um now that he's got my letter I expect to get an- 596: another one Interviewer: or an a 596: an answer yeah friend Interviewer: alright and once you get the letter ready you'd put it in the envelope 596: Mm-hmm. Interviewer: then you take your pen and what do you wri- what do you do on 596: You back it Interviewer: #1 alright and once your writing # 596: #2 back it down # Interviewer: on the letter on is 596: that's your address. Interviewer: #1 alright. # 596: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: is there anything you say other then back the letter? 596: Ma'am? Interviewer: is y- can you say something other than back the letter 596: uh well I don't know what you'd call it back the letter you would you would you would write the letter and you back it Interviewer: #1 okay that's fine # 596: #2 yeah # Interviewer: If a little boy has learned something new like how to whistle 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: and you didn't know he knew how to do that he might come in doing it and you could say well who do that 596: aw yeah yeah who yeah who learned you to I didn't know you could whistle. who learned you how to whistle? all that yeah Interviewer: If you wanna- to have some if you want a bouquet for the dinner table, 596: Mm-hmm Interviewer: you go out in the garden and you do what? 596: you pluck it. Interviewer: okay you pluck some what? 596: flowers. Interviewer: alright. something a child might play with 596: Mm-hmm Interviewer: is a and not- and not- not any thing specific just something general. 596: Mm-hmm Interviewer: a child might play with a 596: a child- something a child may play with/ Interviewer: uh-huh you give him something- say one of your grandchildren came and he had to have something you know he's messing around so you say here I'll give you 596: Give you- ya I'll give you one to play with I'll give you something here you something yeah right here {X} just to pacify them. Interviewer: did you ever say play pretty? 596: Yes play pretty that's right I'll give you a play pretty that's #1 right. # Interviewer: #2 Aha. # 596: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # Uh what would a play pretty be what would 596: #1 well there must be something other than that # Interviewer: #2 is it necessarily # a toy? 596: no ma'am it wouldn't be a toy just something where you imagine that child would love to play with. Interviewer: something you own. 596: yes ma'am and since you give it to him {X} maybe a child and maybe you take that and- but it it ain't like the one that the other one has what he want where he's trying to take from that other one Interviewer: #1 uh-huh. # 596: #2 and you'll take it sometimes # Interviewer: #1 sometimes # 596: #2 yeah # Sometime, sometime there he throw it down Interviewer: {NW} I can tell you had some children around. 596: {NW} Interviewer: Um in a play pretty- would it be something small? 596: #1 yeah something like we- something # Interviewer: #2 pretty small that you can play with? # 596: we could play with in the house {X} Interviewer: I see 596: That's right Interviewer: Okay would it- um would you give- um say I give a play pretty to a older child? 596: no Interviewer: #1 would it be a little- # 596: #2 would would would it'd be a little child. # Interviewer: #1 little child? # 596: #2 little child. # Interviewer: alright 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: um thinking about the word give 596: yeah Interviewer: you'd say that's the book you what me 596: what you give me. That the book that you give me. Interviewer: alright and I'll gi- what it back when I'm through 596: yeah when I through with it I'll give it back to you Interviewer: #1 alright # 596: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: and I'll be glad to do that because you have what me some many of 'em 596: yeah that's right Interviewer: you have what? 596: you have uh given me so many books I'll give them back to you. Interviewer: I'm glad I carried my umbrella 596: #1 we call it- # Interviewer: #2 we hadn't gone # half a block when it 596: it began to rain. Interviewer: Alright do you ever use commence? 596: rain or sunshine or Interviewer: #1 You ever use commence # 596: #2 {X} # Interviewer: to rain? 596: yes commence to rain {X} well I I oh- didn't go half a black before it it started raining what I'd say Interviewer: #1 is that what you'd say? # 596: #2 yeah # #1 before it # Interviewer: #2 okay # 596: started raining. Interviewer: Uh think about the word begin 596: #1 yeah that's right # Interviewer: #2 though # you would say what time does the show 596: begin. Interviewer: alright and the usher might tell you well it must have ten minutes ago 596: yeah Interviewer: it must of b- 596: yeah it must have been ten minutes ago sense it start. Interviewer: um why are you so out of breath well I was feeling so happy I what all the way home 596: #1 Mm-hmm I- # Interviewer: #2 I- # 596: I- I- well maybe I walked fast or I run all the way home or Interviewer: alright 596: or something like that. Interviewer: horses gallop thinking about the word run horses gallop but people 596: um Interviewer: ru- 596: they run. Interviewer: alright and those men have what a mile every morning 596: yes ma'am they have run a mile every morning {X} or say walk a mile. Interviewer: alright uh if you don't know when a man was born you might ask where does he 596: yeah were was he born there where do you- where does he live at? where was he raised or #1 something like that # Interviewer: #2 okay and # thinking about from where did he 596: Where'd he come from Interviewer: Aha 596: Yeah Interviewer: and somebody said well he what in on the train last- 596: yeah he come in on the train last night that seems to be time of night. Interviewer: he has to our town every month 596: #1 yes ma'am # Interviewer: #2 he has # 596: He- he have come to our town every month been to our town every month or something like that Interviewer: alright 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: uh you can't get through that road cause the highway {X} got the road all 596: All blocked Interviewer: or to- 596: or torn up or something. Interviewer: aha 596: that's right. Interviewer: if you give somebody a bracelet you say to her here take it in there and what pu- 596: and put it here. Interviewer: or put it o- 596: put it on or put it away or something. Interviewer: alright. thinking about the word see 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: like with your eyes you say um I what her outside a while ago I 596: I seen so and so out there awhile ago Interviewer: And I hope to you again soon 596: I hope to see you again soon yeah Interviewer: we've what so little of you 596: yeah we talk so much of you Interviewer: or we talking about see we've what so little of you this year we've se- 596: mm get you there Interviewer: using the word see 596: y- yeah Interviewer: You'd say we've 596: we have seen yeah we've seen you th- here I'm glad to see you w- uh w- well we ain't been seen you the I say it like that Interviewer: okay 596: we haven't been seeing you so often this year Interviewer: alright fine uh thinking about the word do 596: yeah Interviewer: do my sister yesterday my sister met yesterday 596: Mm-hmm. uh do? Interviewer: uh-huh my sister what that yesterday? 596: my sister done that yesterday. Interviewer: alright uh and if you might- watching somebody you might say can you that? 596: you'd say can you do that? Interviewer: Alright and you say sure I well sure I 596: sure I can sure I can do it I can do it. Interviewer: or sure I that all my life. 596: yeah I've done that all my life. mm-hmm mm-hmm Interviewer: um and I came here to what you questions? to 596: to ask you questions. Interviewer: alright so I have 596: have asked you now I- now I- why you got that worry Interviewer: #1 is there # 596: #2 and talk # Like that now? neither worried now I notice I notice them Interviewer: is that Mrs.{B} 596: I notice the most cause I {X} I notice some more stuff about preachers nowadays they don't say ask ask they says axe all them says axe Interviewer: #1 is that right? # 596: #2 yes ma'am. # Where now- why- wh- where they take that at where they get that at? Interviewer: um I don't know it may be that ask is a little hard to say. 596: well hid- anybody could've say ask e- ask- ask you know. but what they wanna say axe for? Interviewer: I don't know 596: #1 well # Interviewer: #2 But you- I've # noticed that too. I think It's kinda- well of course you know if- if one person finds it hard to say then I guess everybody start saying it 596: #1 well I used to have they you you you just used to have it just a habit. # Interviewer: #2 the way they say it you know it probably is # 596: #1 {X} # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 596: well it did say- well anybody oughta say ask in- in- instead of saying axe. Interviewer: Yeah I do hear that though my students say it a lot 596: Well I just don't know- I don't know where they #1 get that # Interviewer: #2 does your preacher say that? # 596: yes ma'am a lot of them say it. Yeah they say it more than I say {X} hear the other one's say it. Interviewer: well that's probably true and if I'm at- wouldn't you imagine that some people would hear a preacher say it and kinda think maybe well you know he knows what he's saying maybe I'll say what he said? 596: well probably so. Interviewer: You think that's possible? 596: Yes that's right Interviewer: I know what you mean though I- I- 596: But I- I d- I- I d- I just don't I don't s- what'd make you do that? I don't know. Interviewer: well when you say ask I- I noticed you don't say axe. 596: No ma'am I don't say axe. Axe what you {X}. Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: Try telling that to your preacher though. {NW} Uh thinking about the word fight 596: yeah Interviewer: you'd say every time those boys got together they 596: they fought. Interviewer: alright and they sure do like to 596: like to fight. Interviewer: they have ever since they were little 596: yeah they have fight every time they meet up they got to fight. Interviewer: alright 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: they have what? 596: fought Interviewer: they have fought ever since they were little? 596: yes ma'am Interviewer: Did you ever hear the old people say they fit 596: yes they fit oh that old folk yeah they fit {X} yeah they sure use that word {X} they know no better Interviewer: #1 well # 596: #2 see they'd had # Interviewer: you know not really because that was or- that was the original 596: #1 that's right that's right. # Interviewer: #2 word. # and now it's changed you know 596: yes ma'am. Interviewer: that's not the word people are using anymore. he did what to the hog with a big knife? 596: well he stabbed it. Interviewer: alright and was there a name for those big knives/ 596: butcher knives. Interviewer: alright any other names for big knives? 596: {D: oh oh you call 'em brewery knives} Interviewer: what now h-? 596: {D: brewery} {D: brewery knives.} Interviewer: ah 596: now the old folks call 'em brewery knives Interviewer: same thing 596: #1 yes ma'am as a # Interviewer: #2 as a- # 596: butcher knife call it the brewery knife. Interviewer: how about that? 596: that's right. Interviewer: uh he stabbed the hog and then he what out with the blade? he 596: yeah he he stabbed the hog and- and- and he- and in its head Interviewer: he 596: and pull it Interviewer: the blade pulled 596: oh oh yeah yeah yeah he stabbed the hog why then he {X} all together you know. Interviewer: yeah 596: and he stabbed and while that's bleeding him. That's to let the blood out Interviewer: and talking about getting the knife out you'd say he what out the knife 596: he pulled the knife out. Interviewer: alright 596: pulled the knife out. Interviewer: and if you were going to lift something very heavy like maybe a piece of machine you'd use a pulley and some ropes to what it up? 596: or uh to pull it up with it Interviewer: or ha 596: and hoist it Interviewer: #1 uh-huh # 596: #2 yes ma'am # to hoist it up with Interviewer: #1 alright # 596: #2 mm-hmm # Interviewer: and um let's see I'm down to the very last couple of questions now believe it or not uh if if something is two times as good as something else you'd say it's what as good? 596: twice as good. Interviewer: Alright. now would you say just for pronunciation again would you say the days of the week for me? 596: days of the week? Interviewer: uh-huh 596: well I start at Sunday Interviewer: okay 596: Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday Interviewer: alright do you ever hear any people use sabbath anymore? 596: yes ma'am I use Interviewer: #1 which day would be the sabbath? # 596: #2 sabbath # well sabbath the day well any day that you set apart for the Lord {X} pick what day it is in the week but we use we u- we use Sunday for sabbath day. Interviewer: I see so it refers to 596: #1 yes # Interviewer: #2 you're # you're setting aside that 596: #1 yes # Interviewer: #2 for the- # 596: yep Interviewer: for God. 596: yes that's right. Interviewer: alright then would you give me the months of the year? 596: yes ma'am. January February March April May June July August September October November December. Interviewer: alright if you had ten men in a line 596: mm-hmm Interviewer: the last man would be which man the 596: he'd be- be the tenth man Interviewer: alright and the next in front of him would be which man- the 596: um behind him? Interviewer: going 596: downwards backwards? Interviewer: toward the front of the line. 596: ninth. Interviewer: and then the 596: eighth Interviewer: and then the 596: seventh sixth Interviewer: the seventh or the seventh man? 596: seventh Interviewer: #1 is that what you said- I didn't understand # 596: #2 I said seventh. Yes. Yes ma'am I said seventh. # Interviewer: I didn't hear you. #1 I'm getting a little deaf over # 596: #2 yes # Interviewer: I think I've got good ears but I'm not sure. I'm not sure. 596: why you wh- wha- wh- uh w- {X} come back with it now. Interviewer: #1 right # 596: #2 like we went forward. # yeah. Interviewer: no we're at the seventh 596: mm yeah Interviewer: then who's in front of him? 596: sixth five Interviewer: uh the 596: uh seven? Interviewer: yeah the seventh- you'd say the seventh man then you got the for five you'd say the which man? 596: yes ma'am. Interviewer: he was the- if he was number five he'd be the which man 596: he he he he'd be the fifth Interviewer: #1 aha # 596: #2 man # yes ma'am fifth man. Interviewer: alright the- with the number four would be 596: would be the fourth man Interviewer: #1 aha and # 596: #2 and the # three be the third man and two be the second man and one be the first man. Interviewer: Yeah. My little boy says the tooth 596: {NW} Interviewer: for the second one you know and I get {X} and you know we picked that up and we say it in our family Auxillary: {X} Interviewer: Ya I have run across that wh- that's why I wanted to make sure #1 what you were saying # 596: #2 that's right. Mm-hmm. # Interviewer: Alright. Would you count from one to fourteen for me? 596: Ya one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen. Interviewer: alright and the number after nineteen is? 596: twenty. Interviewer: number after twenty-six is? 596: twenty-seven. Interviewer: the number after twenty-nine? 596: thirty. Interviewer: the number after thirty-nine? 596: forty. Interviewer: the number after sixty-nine? 596: sixty nine you said? Interviewer: mm-hmm. 596: seventy. Interviewer: the number after ninety-nine? 596: one hundred. Interviewer: alright and then another big number a thou- 596: one thousand. Interviewer: and then another big number another mi- 596: Million? Interviewer: alright that's it. 596: that it? Interviewer: that's it. feel like you been through the mill don't you? 596: Well I expect you asked me a million questions. Interviewer: #1 That's right I did indeed # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: #1 you know how many # 596: #2 no I didn't m- no it wasn't no million # Interviewer: #1 you know how many # 596: #2 questions I had- # Interviewer: there are? eight hundred. 596: eight hundred. Interviewer: would you believe you've answered when I- some of them I got in conversation you know you were talking to me about various things. And I picked up as we went- I didn't really ask you that many questions but you gave me about eight hundred answers. 596: Why now how- what percentage did I give you of the answers you asked me about? Interviewer: #1 um # 596: #2 {X}? # Interviewer: #1 very few that # 596: #2 you # just like you were asking me a hundred questions what percentage did I give you? i- in answers what did I give? fifty of 'em or Interviewer: when I- actually you answered them all. 596: Wow. Interviewer: I wanted to ask you about this um If I- if y- did you teach your children to say yes ma'am and no ma'am? 596: #1 yes sure did. # Interviewer: #2 and yes sir and no sir? # Alright to whom did you tell them to say yes ma'am and no 596: I tell 'em to older people or any grown- grown ups Interviewer: #1 any one older than they were # 596: #2 grown ups. yes # {X} grown ups. I taught 'em- teach 'em to say yes ma'am and I don't care if it's white or black. yeah yes ma'am and yes sir. Interviewer: Alright oh I noticed you said yes ma'am to me once 596: #1 yes ma'am # Interviewer: #2 and that's just a way # of showing respect for another person? 596: right that's right I do that. Cause I know- I know I'm older than you. Interviewer: #1 right # 596: #2 But I # I- I gotta- I gotta right to respect you. Interviewer: right it's not because I'm white 596: no no ma'am that's just naturally feel called I got that right to do so. Interviewer: #1 well this is a something # 596: #2 when you stand for something # Interviewer: #1 well # 596: #2 that's right you said # Interviewer: this is the way I was brought up but I wanted- that was one of the questions I- You know was optional when I 596: yeah Interviewer: I intend to ask about it as I went along but I wondered if that was as I was brought up you said that yes ma'am and no ma'am- anytime you wanted to indicate that you respected someone you especially said it to people older than you were. 596: that's right especially. Interviewer: especially 596: yes ma'am that's right then I- I will um on anyone who still I will I r- I r- I mean to say I respect anybody who respect themselves. I sure will. now I- we- I told my children say yes ma'am and yes sir to people, but now in this day and time they got {D: yeah} Interviewer: #1 mm-hmm # 596: #2 no # and all like that. well that don't sound too good to people like that. no to me. Interviewer: no I it 596: #1 It don't seem if you know that way it has to ensure respect. # Interviewer: #2 and maybe they don't mean anything by it but # 596: seem like that or something like that. Interviewer: yeah I like yes ma'am and no ma'am and no sir and yes sir. 596: Uh now and they can talk to one another and call 'em by their name just a yes and no one another but when they come you know {X}. why they don't hurt {X} but still I don't just talk that way Interviewer: you know the funniest thing is I found myself saying it to my husband you know he'll ask me something and I'll say yes sir 596: yeah Interviewer: and then I think it sounds a little funny. 596: yeah Interviewer: #1 {NW} # 596: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: would you say yes ma'am to your wife ever? 596: may- Interviewer: would you ever say yes ma'am to your wife? 596: no we don't now we just don't- no we don't say yes ma'am we just say no or yes to one another cause we- we know when the- Interviewer: fifty five years I guess 596: aw shoot that's right {NW} {NW} Interviewer: oh my well I sure do appreciate you're taking up my- this time with me and uh I would like very much to see you again somehow I certainly hope that day comes. 596: yeah if you {X} write or something we- we- we gonna have to get you know Interviewer: Well I'd love to I like to come back to Mississippi and just see people again that I talked to because with this much talking you almost get to be a member of the family. {NS} 596: Now I know Winter time we- like what we said we we have the time here we put on {X} Interviewer: oh yes 596: Ya. #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 {NW} # And in fact th- th- the best time that you get me back here would be when you make {X}. 596: yes and where I- we make some when we killed hog and we make sausage here Auxillary: thick sausage and honey 596: oh yeah and just have just people here come here looking for sausages like you gonna {X}. Interviewer: #1 is that right? # 596: #2 that's right. # {X} Interviewer: #1 {NW} oh I like that # 596: #2 {NW} # Auxillary: I've been wanting to eat this #1 {D: uh you're the one that likes to eat} # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # Well I better get on the road and get packed so I can get off early in the morning. 596: I see. Interviewer: You know the water the water is still standing out here. it sure seems to. {NS} I'm sure I will I'm sure I will.