Interviewer:  {B} Your name?
604:  {NS} age? {NS} and your address? {NS} and name of this community? Greenville
Interviewer:  How you said its its longer to
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  isn't this closer to Baxterville?
604:  They don't have post office there anymore.
Interviewer:  I see so okay. Greenville's not on my map.
604:  Well that's this is just a Greenville community we used to have a big school up here {NS} and a church {X} people just lives around you know
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and that that was Greenville school and Greenville church
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and so this is Greenville community.
Interviewer:  About how how far away is it from {NS} from the other cities here?
604:  Well it it's uh fourteen miles to Purvis it's sixteen miles to Columbia it's seven miles to Baxterville and it's about twelve miles to Sumrall. That's all the way around.
Interviewer:  {NS} That's pretty much right in the
604:  uh-huh yeah on the Purvis and Columbia road this is a little cutoff through here to Baxterville
Interviewer:  This road goes to Baxter- #1 ville #
604:  #2 uh-huh # uh-huh goes right into Baxter
Interviewer:  I was wondering about that #1 I got lost #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  The only way I knew how to get back out was {X} and Purvis
604:  mm-hmm. Well when this hit this road right up there you go into Purvis.
Interviewer:  {X} this road here
604:  Leads to Baxterville you know it hits thirteen about two miles outside Baxterville.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm I see Where do you go in to do your shopping?
604:  at Purvis
Interviewer:  that's uh
604:  That's for groceries now when I go to buy other material I used to go to {X} Columbia.
Interviewer:  So Baxterville is is just a a little commun-
604:  yeah just like Greenville.
Interviewer:  I see. um Where were you born?
604:  Well I was born here in {X} county.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Where?
604:  It's about four miles up here in the Bay Creek community
Interviewer:  Bay Creek community?
604:  Uh-uh
Interviewer:  About four miles toward going toward
604:  #1 Perks #
Interviewer:  #2 Perks # Is this where you've lived all your life?
604:  mm-hmm Yeah
Interviewer:  When did you move out here?
604:  Um well I married when I was nineteen
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  And um moved right {NS} on this same farm
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  right down there and then we bought this place up here and lived here for um about fifty-two years
Interviewer:  That's a long #1 time #
604:  #2 been # been living here
Interviewer:  and you just built this new house
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  recently Uh how is old did you say you were?
604:  um uh seventy-eight last April second
Interviewer:  And tell me about um the work that that you've done.
604:  Oh {NW} Well I've worked on the farm most of my life but I've worked eleven years in factories.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
604:  uh-huh I've worked five years at Columbia and I worked seven years in uh {D: Gulfport}
Interviewer:  In what?
604:  {D:Gulfport).
Interviewer:  Oh so you lived down there?
604:  No I've just well I come home every weekend
Interviewer:  Oh I see
604:  done my week's chores {NW} {X} ya know cleaned up clothes and {NS} washed and ironed and things like that checked on the children this year in school
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Their grandparents live with us so I could go {X} my husband is here too.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Gulfport's pretty far away isn't it?
604:  It's about eighty mile.
Interviewer:  So so when you were working at Columbia that {D:wasn't} any problems you could just
604:  #1 Oh yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Um And then what what else did you do besides the factory?
604:  It's all I ever done away from home except I'm a member of the welfare board and I've been on that now about twenty-eight years
Interviewer:  What do you do on the welfare board?
604:  Well well we um hear the complaints of the people {NS} needs welfare
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then we pay {X}
Interviewer:  Also you
604:  whether it'll be ya know whether we think it's right well we put it down when we know it's right
Interviewer:  so
604:  help 'em out
Interviewer:  oh I see Um Then you you mentioned that you did some teaching or
604:  Well just ya know when a teacher'd be sick or out for a funerals and things like that maybe be gone for a week or so well I'd teach ya know in their place.
Interviewer:  What church do you go to?
604:  Greenville
Interviewer:  Greenville
604:  Baptist
Interviewer:  The one right
604:  #1 right up there #
Interviewer:  #2 up there #
604:  mm-hmm not quite a mile
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  And um tell me about um your education what's if you remember the name of the school you went to and how far you got
604:  Well it was Greenville school
Interviewer:  mm-mm
604:  and I just got me I mean I just finished eighth
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Was that as far as that school went?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Wha- what was the school like? was it a
604:  It it was a {NW} pretty nice school ya know when I first started to school I was little started to school well it was just a a church house and where I went to school in a church house for a few years {NW} then we built I mean they built a school house {NS} the community did so I went to school there {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you um did you go how many months did you go out of the year?
604:  {NW} about six
Interviewer:  uh-huh Do you do much reading now or
604:  Not too much {X} just papers {NS}
Interviewer:  What is that
604:  {NW} I had to spend times {X} read the home life and that's a church paper ya know
Interviewer:  Tell me some about um well you mentioned you were on the welfare board Are you active in any other organizations?
604:  No that's the only one.
Interviewer:  What about church are you very active in church?
604:  No I just go {NW} they got so many young folks that can teach now so good ya know
Interviewer:  What um {NS} Tell me some about the the traveling that you've done
604:  Traveling
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  {NW} Well I've been in seven different states.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
604:  uh-huh I've been in uh New Mexico and uh Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. {NW}
Interviewer:  That's pretty wide traveling.
604:  When I was out in uh New Mexico went down {X} caves ya ever been {D:down} you oughta go sometimes that's wonderful oh I don't know if it's like it used to be or not but I've been through three times it's wonderful sight you go down down down I don't know how How far it is down don't remember but um when we's going down they stopped us ya know way down in {X} and turned out all the lights so we could see total darkness. and I'm telling you you felt like you could almost taste it it was so black {NW} it was {NW} so dark and then um we went on down and uh a piece above them they'd turned out the lights where we was and showed us a place back in there and called it uh New York City
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and it really looked like a city back there but of course they just had it fixed with lights and things and it it was beautiful then we went down on {NS} went around to all the {NS} scenery {NS} we first started after we got down they uh seated everybody on a rock they had seats made up on this rock and they seated us there and sung I mean they played the rock of ages that put a feeling on you you know you way down there you know see all these things and hear it too and but oh how I enjoyed it {NW}
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  {NW} {NW} I have {NW} a daughter that lives in Abilene, Texas.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and so uh we went from her home that's out on {NS} {X} you know
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  high plains I call it so went out there and went down oh I said I would never go again you know you see the mountains up down there and people just are passing just flying by up there {D: and} oh I hope I don't have to go up that high {X} {X} oo I hope I don't have to go down that far {NW} {NW} oo It's it just really {X} I remember we was going down the {NS} steps and uh {X} caves and they was a bunch of boys there {D: they'll send sixty{ {X} and oh they was having the best time looked like and uh my daughter was with me she's my youngest one {NW} she says I want my Momma and it sounded like it went plum to the bottom of the {NW} and them boys just {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
604:  #2 {NW} # Everybody just laughed we all had a lot of fun. {NW} just things like that {X} when I went down in Florida I went with uh-uh the Father's Day I went down in Florida. I been in Florida more than once {X} when I went with one of my nieces that lives in uh Houston, Texas. She's uh she hunts rocks
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh we went down on the coast line and for her to pick up rocks and I'm telling you I don't remember how far we did go {NW} but we went a way down.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  but uh {NS} then I've been two three times more and then I been in when I went over in Georgia My son was in service over there.
Interviewer:  Where was he stationed?
604:  at um Macon
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and they called it camp Wheeler out at the camp
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  camp Wheeler I didn't go out to the camp I just went to Macon and he met me there. Spent a week with him. And he's supposed to leave then go overseas well when uh I come home. I he call me and told me he says well I'll be leaving tomorrow to go overseas and when um the next day he called me
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  just a little after nine and he said wouldn't go wouldn't go overseas I said well what's wrong? What happened? He said well I have developed asthma since I've been over here and he says uh They say I can't stand salt water So he says they carried me out yesterday afternoon {NS} I developed asthma and they brought me back. So he says I won't go overseas Well I was proud he wasn't going overseas but I was just so upset about him having asthma.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Oh my goodness that just worried me. But {NS} He's still going. {NW} He works at uh {X} {D: data.}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {D: outside} {X} for the American sand and graphite people.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Tell me about your parents. Where was your mother born?
604:  In {X} county in Mississippi.
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Where where is that?
604:  It's uh ya know where {X} Mississippi is?
Interviewer:  No
604:  {NW} Well it's about a hundred and sixty miles north of here
Interviewer:  What about your father?
604:  He was born {X} they married up there before they ever moved down here
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  They called this the pinewoods back then up there don't grow big pines and things like it do down here used to be big big pines here you know but it's all been cut out.
Interviewer:  And how far did they get in school?
604:  They both stopped. I don't know
Interviewer:  mm-mm
604:  but they both taught school
Interviewer:  Did they do any other work besides teaching?
604:  Oh yeah You know back then didn't teach but about six months in the year and they um farmed and he made jewelry and {D:different} things like that.
Interviewer:  He made jewelry?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  That's unusual.
604:  {NW} He uh he made earrings and uh necklaces and cufflinks and hairpins and hatpins and uh watch chains all kinda things he ordered his wire from some company and And I guess it was gold because it still don't {X} I was little. And he done that kinda work. And he built it for the weekends lots of times ya know he come home Sun- Saturday nights but he'd leave Friday and go off to town and he'd come home {NW} really help us out
Interviewer:  Yeah.
604:  {NW} For him to make that jewelry {X} {D: Sunday.}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Ma- Mother always stayed home with the children.
Interviewer:  What about um your grandparents on your mother's side?
604:  Well
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  Uh I remember her a little bit but my grandfather on my mother's side got killed in the war.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and my grandmother married again She married a feller {D:Baget} And um They was {X}. my mother was a {X} and um Then she married a {D:Baget}. And she lived up here {X} it's about twelve miles {X}.
Interviewer:  Your grandmother?
604:  Uh-huh my grandmother.
Interviewer:  And how how did it happen that your your mother was way up in North Mississippi?
604:  Well they was up there too. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 they #
604:  They lived up here though. They moved down here. They was from up in {X} county. They all moved back down here #1 see #
Interviewer:  #2 oh I see # Your your grandparents #1 {X} #
604:  #2 mm-hmm # Yeah on both sides.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  mother and daddy
Interviewer:  They were from that
604:  Uh-huh
Interviewer:  up in North Mississippi?
604:  Yeah {NS}
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
604:  and they moved down here in Lamar county. {X} and that's where raised their families.
Interviewer:  When did um when did your parents move down to this county?
604:  Oh honey I don't know {X} where I was born I {X} don't have no record of it.
Interviewer:  You think they were grown then?
604:  Grown? They was married. They married in {X} county.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Then they moved down here.
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
604:  And uh I think they had one child when they moved down here and lemme see lemme see how oh shoot {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  {X} I've got a record here somewhere I wanted. {NS} Found out just how old she was {NS} Well don't know what I've done with my little book. {NS}
Interviewer:  Well it's not that important I just wanted to get an idea {X} {NS}
604:  Well it's {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  What work did ya
604:  {X} It had a been about eighty out ni- ninety years ago when they moved down here.
Interviewer:  uh-huh What work did um did your grandparents on your mother's side do?
604:  Well they farm's all I know {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you know where their family came from before that?
604:  uh-huh uh North Carolina
Interviewer:  Oh I see. {NS} Uh-huh Do you know where North when that was that they came?
604:  No I don't. I don't know. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about your grandparents on your father's side?
604:  Well they was they was Mississippians {NS}
Interviewer:  They were from that
604:  #1 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  I think so
Interviewer:  What um work did they do or how far did they get #1 in school #
604:  #2 just {X} #
Interviewer:  just fourth? {NS}
604:  all I ever knew of {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you know where they came from before that?
604:  No I'm not sure but I think they all come from there. It it mighta been North Carolina where they come from.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {NS}
604:  I just I'm not sure but it was Carolina the Carolinians where they come from both of 'em
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  all them
Interviewer:  Um {NS} I guess you were married.
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  {X} You've been married?
604:  Oh yeah That was my husband's picture right over there.
Interviewer:  I see. Is he dead now? {NS}
604:  Yeah he's been dead twenty-four years this past June.
Interviewer:  How old was he when he died?
604:  Fifty-seven. No fifty-nine Pardon me.
Interviewer:  Does what church did he go to?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Is that a baptist church?
604:  Mm-hmm yeah just two miles right over here.
Interviewer:  Was he born from around here?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  What work did he do?
604:  Well he worked in uh {X} and he worked on the roads uh running graders on the road and all just different things and always had his farm.
Interviewer:  yeah {NS} How far did he get in school?
604:  About like I did.
Interviewer:  About eighth grade?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  And um was he very active in church or?
604:  Pretty good. He is a deacon.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. Did he travel much or belong to any clubs?
604:  Well he um belonged to the Masons and um {NW} that's about all he gone to except just the church.
Interviewer:  What about his parents? What do you #1 know #
604:  #2 oh # They come from the coast down here. they
Interviewer:  Do you know what work they did or
604:  no
Interviewer:  anything like that?
604:  Just farming I imagine.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Now I guess this community's changed pretty much #1 since #
604:  #2 oh # {NW}
Interviewer:  Tell me about
604:  #1 Oh I I #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  Well just ya know just people moving in and out that's
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  makes a big difference in the community. what it used to be of course we have ways traveling now we used to didn't have
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  We had to go in a buggy or a wagon or something I guess ya know?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Now it's cars, motorbikes, bicycles, {NW} things like that it makes a lot of difference.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Was this um do people still do the same type of work that they did?
604:  Oh yeah it's farming all #1 through here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Still farming? #
604:  Well it's not uh it's not making crops like you used to it's mostly uh pastures for cows now.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Raise cattle instead a getting out there and farming like we had to making cotton and corn and stuff like that.
Interviewer:  um One thing I kept noticing um they are people not required to have their their animals fenced in?
604:  No this is free range out here. We have free range. {NS} We got {NS} {NS} sixty or seventy handy cattle anyway ain't none of 'em shut up {X} calves were {NW} where we {NW} milk the cows {NW}
Interviewer:  That seems so so strange to me to be driving along and have these cows in the road.
604:  Oh yeah I guess so. Yeah Everybody that lives through here though knows you know whenever they get out the country where they cattle has open range. Now {NS} it's not all over it's not all over the counties it's part of it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm You said um you had places fenced in for the cows?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  What do #1 you #
604:  #2 pastures #
Interviewer:  Oh I see. Um I'd like to get an idea of the house that that you grew up in. Could you sort of make a sketch of it for me?
604:  {NW} Oh wow.
Interviewer:  Just for the {D:royal} tour ya know just just to get a general idea or the house that you lived most of your life in
604:  Well 'til I got married I lived in {D:um or a} a house that had um a front porch to it and on each end of the porch was a bedroom there's twelve of us children
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  {NW} I can't draw. And um then there was a a porch ya know between these two rooms and it went into what we call a living room is big fireplace room there and I had a bed in that room and then there's a bedroom back a that and it had uh two beds in it and uh that made five beds and then there's a long part of the house back there that had the kitchen and dining room and a back porch to that.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Let me try to draw that and you tell me
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  bout what shape was it? rectangular or
604:  Uh-huh it's long.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {X} {X}
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Something like that?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Okay then you said it was a porch? #1 {X} #
604:  #2 uh-huh # There's a porch across here and there's a room here and a room there.
Interviewer:  Oh the end of #1 the #
604:  #2 and #
Interviewer:  porch?
604:  Uh-huh on the end of the {X}
Interviewer:  How far out did the porch go?
604:  Well it was far enough out it had a bedroom on it. and then this um
Interviewer:  So there was a
604:  This room over here now it was a a post office one time. {NS} {NW} It was named {X} post office.
Interviewer:  uh
604:  and this there's a road come across here in front of the house and that was the road from Purvis to Columbia and the mail carrier brought the mail through here and uh this {X} post office. It's the only one he had to stop at
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  between Columbia and Purvis.
Interviewer:  What um how how big was this? I just make a line here?
604:  Uh-huh Come on up here and leave it {X} porch {X}
Interviewer:  What direction is this right here?
604:  This {NW} now this is East and this is West.
Interviewer:  I see
604:  And back a the
Interviewer:  {D:do this with me} So the house faces South?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  And then the Southeast corner is that room
604:  #1 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 where the post #
604:  post office was
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  This is bedroom but after they moved the post office {D: something here} we used that for a bedroom
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  And then there's a a partition through here and there's a room that went through here into the kitchen. dining room
Interviewer:  There was a room {D:how}?
604:  There's uh up here was the kitchen and this is dining room and then that was the back porch back there.
Interviewer:  Oh this was a
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  This was a porch here?
604:  uh-huh.
Interviewer:  and where was
604:  that's the dining room
Interviewer:  #1 oh I see #
604:  #2 and # this is the kitchen
Interviewer:  So you have a the {D:petition}
604:  #1 and this is #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  #1 yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  and this is the living room there's {X} right here {NW}
Interviewer:  So living room then is #1 the Southeast? #
604:  #2 and then the yeah. # Then I had bedrooms on down through here. #1 and the door #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  uh-huh and the doors went through here the middle
Interviewer:  So you have a bedroom you have three rooms in the South corner
604:  #1 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 South end # of the house in the East Southeast is the living room
604:  yeah
Interviewer:  then in in the middle is the bedroom and then the #1 Southwest #
604:  #2 bedroom #
Interviewer:  is the bedroom?
604:  Yeah yeah so bedroom and we use this for a bedroom {NS} after the post office moved out.
Interviewer:  and the Northeast is a kitchen?
604:  And right out here we had a well and that's where we got our water.
Interviewer:  and the dining room is the
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  uh Northwest in the
604:  #1 yes #
Interviewer:  #2 house? # Just West of the dining room's the back porch?
604:  yeah
Interviewer:  Oh I see. {NS} {NS} How long did you live in this house?
604:  Til I married. I was nineteen when I married.
Interviewer:  Then what what house did you move into?
604:  I moved down here. right down there
Interviewer:  that house you have
604:  well that house burned
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  when we lived in it got uh we sold that and built up here
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then uh after they sold it that house down there burnt We moved up here to this house and
Interviewer:  Did um did you have any hall in this house?
604:  Hall?
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Yeah we had a little hall from the living room here 'til you come in at the doors there you didn't go into the bedroom you just come down this hall and uh #1 from the living room #
Interviewer:  #2 halls {X} #
604:  uh-huh just a went in that way {X}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  come out that way um
Interviewer:  um
604:  That's {X} that live in there. {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  You mentioned um you had a fireplace.
604:  Oh yeah
Interviewer:  um that open open place on the floor in the front of the fireplace what was that called?
604:  Well it was a chimney ya know and then the fireplace is down
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  you see right back here
Interviewer:  #1 uh-huh #
604:  #2 That's # that's a fireplace with a chimney but {X} just flat level with the floor.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about that where those bricks are you call that {D:uh} you know that {x} what what I mean is this um this part down there
604:  uh-huh I called it just called it fireplace all I ever called it.
Interviewer:  uh-huh Did Did you ever cook on a fireplace?
604:  No I never did.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of anybody?
604:  Oh yes hear a lot of folks cooking on the fireplace and mother used to have an {X} she baked potatoes on the fireplace.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  but just to cook her meals she never did.
Interviewer:  Tell me about how she'd what this oven was like and how she
604:  Oh it's big {X} hold a half a bushel of sweet potatoes and uh she'd wash her potatoes and put 'em in there and then put uh coals under that oven and on top of it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh {NS} the potatoes'd bake and they was so good. They'd just be so soft ya could hardly peel 'em. just real good
Interviewer:  um You know there's the part of the fireplace that that you'd put this oven {NS} down in
604:  It was just part of the fireplace we'd just move the fire to one side and put the oven on the other side then sometimes the oven would be over on the other side.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Big ol' pot of a thing
Interviewer:  But you know there is a sort of a a stone or rock type um
604:  Our wasn't it was just a dirt chimney.
Interviewer:  Do you know what that's called?
604:  clay chimney uh-uh
Interviewer:  When you have that stone or rock thing in front of the fireplace that Have you ever {X} or hearth?
604:  hearth yeah everybody calls it a lot of 'em calls 'em that
Interviewer:  Well what's
604:  down on the hearth that's where you build a fire
Interviewer:  mm-hmm I see. {NS} said you were gonna build a fire if you put the wood on the
604:  down on the hearth
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  {NW} yeah It'd start ya fire.
Interviewer:  Did ya ever have anything to to lay the wood across on?
604:  Uh-huh. {X}
Interviewer:  okay
604:  #1 and um #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # What about say say the kind of wood you'd use to start a fire with what would that be
604:  We called it kindling {NS} or splinters.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Is there any other
604:  start it
Interviewer:  other type other name for that other type of wood
604:  Not unless ya poured a little coal all on the wood #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah # Do you ever hear {D:lightered}?
604:  Well that's kinda wood we burned was {D:lightered}.
Interviewer:  What's the difference between {D: lightered} and {D: kindling}?
604:  Well uh kindling ya bust it up and just have little pieces of it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and {D:lightered} just throw big ol' chunks of it on the fire {NS} and it makes a big fire
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about um when you talk about chunk what are you talking about?
604:  Uh big ol' pieces of wood ya can't hardly lift
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um the the big piece of wood that you might put toward the back of the fireplace burn for a long time what would that be?
604:  it'd be a big chunk of wood that's all I know {NW}
Interviewer:  um and the the thing up across of the board {X} up above the
604:  mantle shelf
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Any other names for that?
604:  {X} mantle shelf what I've always called it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about that black stuff that that um you know to clean out of the chimney
604:  smut {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard that called anything else?
604:  uh-uh
Interviewer:  {D:soot or soot}?
604:  yeah soot or smut or whatever ya wanna call it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and things that ya ya have to take a shovel and
604:  ashes
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um tell me about things that that you might have in a room? the thing that I'm sitting in
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  it's called
604:  chairs
Interviewer:  okay and um what about something that you might have in a living room for three or four people to sit on?
604:  a couch.
Interviewer:  Are there any other types of besides a couch? any other names?
604:  Oh yeah. lotta folks don't call 'em couches they call 'em ya know what I can't think right now. {NW}
Interviewer:  You ever hear {D: sofa}?
604:  yeah sofa
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  uh lotta folks calls 'em that
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing?
604:  Yeah same thing.
Interviewer:  What about what type things might you have in your bedroom to keep your clothes in?
604:  Well I call it a wardrobe.
Interviewer:  {X} What does that look like?
604:  Let me show you one. {NW} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  That wardrobe would be something that doesn't have a a mirror to it.
604:  No it doesn't have a mirror to it. Well now there are some that has a doors. all the way with the mirrors in 'em.
Interviewer:  What are they called?
604:  They're called the same thing.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  But uh
Interviewer:  This one you open the drawer open the doors and you have drawers
604:  No, the drawers is at the bottom down there. It's just shelves up in #1 there #
Interviewer:  #2 oh I see # So you don't have a place then for hanging up clothes? in that
604:  Yeah {NW} the shelf stops in place of the hang up {X}.
Interviewer:  What about some things other things that that have drawers in it that you might have in the bedroom?
604:  Well dressers and um {NS} I can't think now. I guess {NW}
Interviewer:  What's a dresser like? Does it have a mirror to it?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  What about um something like that only without a mirror? Did ya ever hear bureau or #1 dresser drawers #
604:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer:  or {X}
604:  Some folks called 'em bureaus like that in there
Interviewer:  That wardrobe?
604:  uh-huh that wardrobe uh yeah dresser drawers {D:wash stands} dresser drawers, bureaus all kinda things {NW}
Interviewer:  Something now a days though in new houses they'll lots a times they'll they'll build a little room of the bedroom for you to hang up clothes #1 in. #
604:  #2 mm-hmm # closet
Interviewer:  okay I guess you've got those #1 {X} #
604:  #2 {NW} # and we got a little pantry right there.
Interviewer:  Where did you used to keep what do you keep in the pantry? just canned goods and things? What'd you use to keep 'em before you
604:  {X} We had uh {NS} like this only it was closed in {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear {NS} you say you had shelves built around Did you ever have a {NW}
604:  here in the closet the in the kitchen here {C: bad sound quality} {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of a safe or anything like that?
604:  A safe? yeah used to have safes to put food in
Interviewer:  What was the safe like?
604:  {NW} Well there's different kind there's a we had two we had one that had um uh {X} and we had one that had metal and then the metal had uh ya know little holes that {D: made} a picture
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {NW} {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  What about um something that you might have in um have in in a window to cool down to keep out the light?
604:  shades
Interviewer:  okay
604:  window shades
Interviewer:  That's something solid now {D:is it}?
604:  uh-huh yeah
Interviewer:  And um the top part of the house is called a
604:  loft {D: or the} ceiling
Interviewer:  What's what's the loft?
604:  It's that's place up there we uh upstairs I call it now.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  uh it's floored up there and we got lots of stuff up there ya know
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  that we couldn't have down here. But we it was {X} {X}
Interviewer:  mm-mm
604:  and we put it up in the loft of the house
Interviewer:  I see. um
604:  Some folks it'd call it upstairs I guess.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  they call it {X} {NS}
Interviewer:  What would you call a a room like that that that you you just use to store things in that you didn't know what to do with?
604:  Closet I guess.
Interviewer:  okay um and um all these things that we've been talking about the the dresser and wardrobe and so forth just a general name for those would be
604:  what {NW}
Interviewer:  what what would you just
604:  well well I just call it a bedroom suit
Interviewer:  okay and if you wanted to buy something like that you'd go to what kind of store?
604:  furniture
Interviewer:  okay So would you use that word furniture?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  talking about Any other word would you say house fixing's a {X}?
604:  Oh I guess you could call it that I just call it furniture store. {NW}
Interviewer:  Did you ever see kitchen's built differently from from how they are now?
604:  Oh yeah I guess I have. {NW} Oh a I seen kitchens built off from the house
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  just another little house out there and a walkway to it you know from the house you lived in I never did I wasn't raised in one like that. {D: here comes} somebody {X} my daughter {X}
Interviewer:  and um what would you call a lot of old worthless things that you were about to throw away?
604:  garbage
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 okay # Any other names?
604:  {NW} uh Well I might call it by its name if I knowed what I was gonna throw away but
Interviewer:  uh-huh think of something like junk or #1 rubbage or trash #
604:  #2 uh-huh # yeah I don't like that.
Interviewer:  And um tell me about daily house work you said that a woman has to do what every morning?
604:  Well the- they supposed to but lot of 'em don't {NS} {NW} I get up in morning and fix some breakfast and then wash dishes making beds sweep the house {NS} Got company I forgot your name what is it?
Interviewer:  oh {B} {B} {NS}
604:  {X} chair went right {NW}
Interviewer:  Say if if you have a a two story house to get from the first floor up to the second floor you have a
604:  stairway
Interviewer:  okay and um something out- outside of the house say from the the ground up to the porch would be a
604:  steps
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um
604:  She's got me in school this morning {NW} and I can't think.
Interviewer:  Do do you remember on different types of porches seeing maybe a porch off the
604:  #1 Well there's some #
Interviewer:  #2 the second floor? #
604:  some closed in and the some that's open
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  some's got banisters and some don't
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of um different names for different kinds of porches?
604:  mm-hmm {NW} uh Used to be an old lady over here called 'em uh I don't know if I called it or not tell me what it is.
Interviewer:  oh I don't know {X} you ever
604:  I don't know
Interviewer:  balcony or
604:  uh-huh. balcony pass something like that passing I just always call it the porch or gallery.
Interviewer:  What's a gallery?
604:  That's a porch.
Interviewer:  Is is it the same thing?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Would ya talk about you know like that back porch you had at small back porch
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Would that be a gallery?
604:  Yeah a little gallery back there.
Interviewer:  I see. #1 and um #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  you said years ago on Monday women usually did what kind of work?
604:  Wash day.
Interviewer:  okay Could you tell me what that was like?
604:  Oo yes. {X} {X} {X} tubs get ya water in the pots and boil the pot {X} wash your clothes out first and put 'em in the pot get the dirt all ya can with your hands out and then put 'em in the pot boil 'em and then ya take 'em out of the pot and {X} {NW} then hang 'em up {NW}
Interviewer:  And then what?
604:  {X} dryer there wasn't no such thing as a dryer back then ya had to hang 'em out and let 'em dry
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Then what would you do?
604:  Bring 'em in iron and fold and put 'em away.
Interviewer:  uh-huh What might you call both washing and ironing together?
604:  cuz it all goes together you can wash and if you don't uh iron some of ya clothes {X} {NS} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  there one word you use to refer to washing and ironing?
604:  {D: Well I just}
Interviewer:  Is there one word that that would mean both washing and ironing?
604:  Yeah get up and get ya week's work done. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # Um would you ever use the word laundry?
604:  Oh yeah. {NS} {NS} that's whenever you start {X} get it all through with and you {NS} done ya laundry and got it put away.
Interviewer:  uh-huh I see. and um you know some some houses have these kinds of {X} that sort of lap over each other
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  What's that? {NS}
604:  Can't think What is it? Ya know where the the {x} {X} on top always over the bottom one (X)