Interviewer:  {X} they were made from um cornmeal? What what might you make um out of cornmeal to to have with fish?
604:  Um What ya call 'em? {NW} I guess I ain't got no sense. Uh What ya call them round things? {NS} {X}
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  Hush puppies.
Interviewer:  Okay. That that's what what you'd have with the little things?
604:  Uh-huh hush puppies. Eat with fried fish.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of corn dodgers?
604:  {NS} Yeah I've heared folks call 'em corn dodgers that's just bread. Cornbread's all I ever knowed it #1 to be. #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Um What about something you'd take use cornmeal and salt and water? then boil it and then
604:  Oh I don't know.
Interviewer:  Makes something sort of soggy that you you could eat with a spoon or something.
604:  Grits? No, grits don't have eggs in it. Um Hush puppies? What do you call that?
Interviewer:  Do you ever heard of mush?
604:  Mush yeah I've heared that I never did try cooking mush.
Interviewer:  uh-huh um you say there there are two kinds of bread the homemade bread then the kind you buy at the store called?
604:  It's uh loaf bread that you would get from the store. and homemade bread's biscuit.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
604:  {X} you can make uh lot of bread from the at home is about as good as you can buy it already cooked.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm um what's fried in deep fat with a hole in the center?
604:  Oh hmm Some kind a cornbread too I don't
Interviewer:  um not made out of um corn- cornmeal
604:  Oh you talking about doughnuts?
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um what about something that you'd make up a batter of and and fry three or four of these at a time?
604:  Uh pancakes?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay is there any other name for that?
604:  uh-huh flitters. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay # and um say um the the inside part of the egg it's called a?
604:  Yolk.
Interviewer:  Okay what what color is that?
604:  Yellow or white. Which ones the yolk?
Interviewer:  Which how how do you usually speak speak of the
604:  I just break egg and my bread stir it up when I'm making cornbread.
Interviewer:  okay and um if you cook 'em in hot water what do you call 'em?
604:  Oh I don't know. Dumplings.
Interviewer:  Yup eggs though you cook them in hot water.
604:  Oh boiled eggs.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and what about if you crack 'em and let 'em fall out of the shells in the hot water? Did you ever make anything like that? um and um say if it was time to feed the stock and do your chores you'd say that it was?
604:  Getting late we'd better get out there and get through it. {NW} Time to feed the hogs time to feed the cows. It's milking time or something like that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  What else?
Interviewer:  How would you call now now how would you call cows to get 'em in out of the pastures?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Would you go ahead and do that?
604:  I goes oh come on
Interviewer:  Go ahead and do it like you're calling them.
604:  Oh {NW} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  okay #1 and um #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 #
Interviewer:  What do you say to make 'em stand still so you can milk 'em?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-kay
604:  Back your foot. {NW}
Interviewer:  You tell 'em back your foot?
604:  uh-huh {C: laughing}
Interviewer:  Do you do you hit 'em then on the #1 leg? #
604:  #2 Just # {NS} just push ya hand again and say back foot and they'll put it back
Interviewer:  and uh how do you call a cow?
604:  Well {X} if you used to talking to it you call her by her name She'll come.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm a calf you mean?
604:  Oh calf I call them {D: soo cow soo cow soo cow}
Interviewer:  Okay {C: laughing} um and what do you say to a mule or horse to make them turn left and right?
604:  Gee and haw.
Interviewer:  Which is which?
604:  Gee is to the left to the right and haw's to the left.
Interviewer:  mm-kay and how do you call horses?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear anyone call 'em?
604:  I've heared 'em holler for 'em somewhere another but I don't remember what how they'd call them
Interviewer:  You ever heard coke or {X} or
604:  Yeah I've heared folks say coke coke coke getting there horses to come
Interviewer:  uh-huh What would you say to a horse to to get 'em started?
604:  Get up
Interviewer:  okay and what if he's moving and you want him to go faster?
604:  Get up
Interviewer:  mm-kay and how do you stop 'em
604:  Whoa
Interviewer:  and um to back them into a buggy?
604:  Just take 'em by the bits and back 'em in {NW} {NW} back 'em in between the {X}
Interviewer:  Is there anything you say to 'em?
604:  Mm-hmm back up
Interviewer:  mm-kay and how do you call a hog?
604:  Pig
Interviewer:  mm-kay and um could you do that like like you're doing one like you're calling him
604:  Pig pig pig {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 and um #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  What about sheep?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  you never had
604:  uh-uh never had no
Interviewer:  What about chickens?
604:  Call chickens {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if you wanna get the horses ready to go somewhere Go saddle him up or go ride Go put the {X} on him and bring him in let's harness him up okay and um when you're riding a horse you guide him with the
604:  uh the reins
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  to ride
Interviewer:  and your your feet are in the
604:  stirrup
Interviewer:  and um {NS} When you're plowing the the trench sort of thing that the plow cuts is called the what
604:  plow
Interviewer:  yeah but the thing that the plow cuts
604:  Oh the handles to the {X}
Interviewer:  yeah but but in the ground the
604:  #1 oh #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # the little trench or ditch sort of thing
604:  off road i call it little uh plows the plows is called um scooter plows
Interviewer:  but that the thing that it it um it digs out this trench you don't call it a trench you call it a
604:  oh You don't call it a road huh?
Interviewer:  think about fur
604:  Oh they gotta foot to put the plow on.
Interviewer:  uh-huh I was thinking about furrow
604:  Furs is
Interviewer:  furrow
604:  oh fur yeah you plow fur
Interviewer:  uh-huh what what is a fur exactly? how would you describe
604:  Well um it's kinda you if you're plowing your garden you'll plow down this side the row and throw the fur up to the {X} to the vegetable whatever you want and then you come back the other side throw fur from that side and that covers it all up except the vegetable it's sticking out at ya
Interviewer:  mm I see {NS} and uh when you're plowing with two horses what do you call the one that walks in the furrow?
604:  Two horses
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Never plowed two {NW} I never had plowed two. but uh what you'd call it
Interviewer:  Seeing that lead horse or horse or line horse or something like that
604:  I don't know. I don't know nothing about plowing. I never plowed. {NW}
Interviewer:  you say I don't know exactly how far away it is but it's just a a little
604:  on the horse?
Interviewer:  no say talking about distance say if I ask you how far it is to Baxterville you might say well it's just a little
604:  uh-huh little piece over there
Interviewer:  okay and um say if you'd been taking a trip somewhere and you stopped for lunch you might tell others now we can't stay here long because we still have a
604:  good long ways to go
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um if something was real common and you didn't have to look for it in a special place you'd say oh you can find that just about
604:  anywhere
Interviewer:  and if someone slipped and fell this way you'd say fell over
604:  oh fell backwards
Interviewer:  this way would be
604:  front
Interviewer:  or not backward
604:  forwards forwards
Interviewer:  okay and um {NS} say if you got rid of all the the brush and trees on your land you say you
604:  got it cleared
Interviewer:  okay and um weed is tied up into a
604:  Bundle
Interviewer:  okay and then the bundles are piled up into a
604:  I never been in a whet field wheat field in my life but I guess they carry it to the mill.
Interviewer:  uh-huh um what {X} what do you have to do with those to separate the grain from the rest of it? You have to thresh it. okay and um say you might take a milk or cream and mix that with sugar and {X} and pour it over pie You'd call that a
604:  {D:filler}
Interviewer:  huh
604:  a filler
Interviewer:  okay but um you know you might just take some sweet liquid and pour it over pudding or pie you don't do that
604:  {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Say if you were real thirsty um You might go to the sink and get yourself a
604:  Drink of water.
Interviewer:  or if you'd you'd pour the water into a
604:  glass
Interviewer:  okay and you say that glass fell off the sink and
604:  broke
Interviewer:  They say so somebody has what that glass somebody has
604:  Stepped on it or broke it or
Interviewer:  okay and you say but I didn't mean to
604:  hurt didn't mean to break it
Interviewer:  okay and food taken regular meals you'd call that
604:  Just snacking or
Interviewer:  okay um and um say if if dinner was on the table and a family was standing around waiting to begin What would you say to them
604:  Tell 'em to come on let's get through.
Interviewer:  or if you're standing around the table you tell 'em to
604:  Hit the sails.
Interviewer:  okay and um if someone offered you some food that you didn't want you might say
604:  Thank ya I wouldn't care for it.
Interviewer:  okay now if food's been cooked and served a second time you say that it's been
604:  Warmed over
Interviewer:  and you say you put food in your mouth and then you
604:  Can't swallow it
Interviewer:  okay or if
604:  #1 Oh you chew it #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # okay and um peas and carrots and beets and so forth you call those
604:  vegetables
Interviewer:  and um you'd grow them in a
604:  garden
Interviewer:  and um you might take um corn and and take some {X} water and
604:  Make {X}
Interviewer:  okay and um did you ever hear anything about people making whiskey themselves
604:  I heard 'em bout making whiskey but I don't know how they do it
Interviewer:  Do you know what they call that whiskey when they make it themselves?
604:  Whiskey still um
Interviewer:  If they called whiskey did that they make
604:  uh white lightning
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW} Just call them whiskey.
Interviewer:  What about beer?
604:  I don't know nothing about it.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of people making that themselves?
604:  Oh yeah I've heared of it. making it with potatoes and making it with uh uh fruit juices things like that
Interviewer:  and uh something that that you might pour over pancakes would be
604:  syrup
Interviewer:  okay and you say um this isn't imitation maple syrup it's
604:  A homegrown huh
Interviewer:  or it's gen
604:  or what
Interviewer:  it's not imitation it's
604:  It's real.
Interviewer:  or gen say say if you had a leather belt it would have something on it it'd tell ya that it was made out of leather you'd say that it
604:  Genuine leather
Interviewer:  okay and um something that you might spread on toast in the morning
604:  butter
Interviewer:  okay or
604:  um margarine or or jelly
Interviewer:  okay and um say if there was a {NS} um there were some apples and a child wanted one you'd say
604:  He wanted the apple.
Interviewer:  okay and um you say he doesn't live here he lives
604:  Down the next house over cross the branch or up the road or
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  just anywhere {NW}
Interviewer:  and um if you don't have any the opposite of rich is
604:  Don't have no what
Interviewer:  Yeah the opposite of rich is If you don't have any money at all then huh
604:  Poor folks
Interviewer:  okay and um if you have a lot of pastries say you have a peach
604:  Uh-huh orchard
Interviewer:  okay and um the inside of a cherry the part that you don't eat
604:  seed
Interviewer:  What about on a peach?
604:  Seed ya don't eat that either.
Interviewer:  uh-huh and the kind of peach that
604:  oh
Interviewer:  what kind
604:  {X} and {X}
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  {NW} clean peach or whatever you want to call it clean
Interviewer:  Clean peach is the same as
604:  #1 presses #
Interviewer:  #2 presses # Mm-hmm what about the part of the apple that you throw away?
604:  Seed and the peeling {NW}
Interviewer:  um
604:  Core.
Interviewer:  core is the same thing as the seed?
604:  The core is what holds the seeds you know.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Ya don't eat that.
Interviewer:  what um and what kind of nuts go in the ground
604:  peanuts
Interviewer:  Is there any other name for them?
604:  mm-hmm uh peanuts and goobers and uh {D: penders} and {NW}
Interviewer:  Those all the same thing?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Okay what um What nuts do you have around here?
604:  We have peanuts and hickory nuts uh walnuts pecans
Interviewer:  mm-hmm You know on a walnut they got those two {X} to them?
604:  uh-huh One's a little hull on the outside and the uh then the one that's next to the meat is uh a little hard {X}
Interviewer:  That that nut that you we were talking about earlier what what was that called again?
604:  uh uh tongue nut.
Interviewer:  uh-huh You said that you couldn't eat those
604:  No they're poison. They make oil out of 'em.
Interviewer:  and that that
604:  They ain't nothing that eat them not even cows nothing.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of of anyone trying to
604:  uh-huh There was a somebody come through here not well about two or three years ago and they found some tongue trees on the highway down {NS} they seen 'em and they just they stopped they got about two a piece for them and their children and they went about four miles they eat them things I don't know how they taste but they eat 'em and they found 'em up there just above Purvis on the road and they didn't know what in the world was a matter {D: no manners} had sense enough to tell 'em that they eat some um nuts they got down the road {X} and they picked 'em up and brought 'em back to the doctor there in Purvis and he said they'd eat tongue nuts so he had to give them some kind of shots to kill that poison.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {X} What was the matter with them {X} What were they how they acted when they
604:  They just passed out. They just well they went to vomit to start with and vomited 'til they they'd all just passed out but the old man. and he just didn't hardly know nothing they said he's just limber as he could be. {NS}
Interviewer:  Seems awfully stupid just to eat something you don't know what it is
604:  uh-huh Looks like a {X}. I have never have tasted one but they must be been tasting pretty good.
Interviewer:  I guess. {C:laughing}
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Enough to make 'em that sick.
604:  I know it.
Interviewer:  What kind of of things do you grow in your garden? Or have you grown in a garden if you don't have one this year.
604:  We had um peas and okra and squash watermelons and pepper and uh
Interviewer:  What about some things that grow
604:  turnips lettuce and radish
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  um cabbage and collards Oh just all kind of mess
Interviewer:  You say um ya take your turnips and cook them and make a {X}
604:  turnips Make a mess of greens.
Interviewer:  What others greens do you eat besides turnips?
604:  Collards cabbage
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  lettuce and mustard
Interviewer:  What about {X}?
604:  No Oo I'm scared of that poison still.
Interviewer:  Poke is poison?
604:  Oo yeah you have to boil it and take all the juice off of it and then reboil it and Then when you flavor it up to eat it a lotta folks eats that stuff
Interviewer:  What do they call it when they eat it?
604:  uh poke we call it poke salad.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Yeah we don't never fool with it here. We just let it go to seeding. {NW} Fall off Seed for the birds.
Interviewer:  What um what goes something that's got a strong odor that makes tears come to your eyes goes down in the ground
604:  Grows under the ground
Interviewer:  {X} you pull it up
604:  Onions about all I know
Interviewer:  What about those kind of onions that you eat when they're still young?
604:  Green onions
Interviewer:  mm-kay and um something red that that grows on a bush that you {X}
604:  Tomatoes
Interviewer:  okay you know there's tomatoes that are bigger than that
604:  uh-huh It's little plum tomatoes.
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and the kind of fruit that that grows down in Florida that's about the size of a
604:  oh down in the Florida oranges
Interviewer:  okay say if you had a bowl of oranges and one day you went to get one there weren't any left you'd say the oranges are
604:  gone
Interviewer:  okay and um say what kind of a beans do you have
604:  Well Snap beans Shell beans butter beans and
Interviewer:  Is there any other name for butter beans?
604:  well there different kind of butter beans ya know there's some that makes on vines and then there's some that makes on bushes {NS} bush of 'em and there's some speckled and some white and some large and some small
Interviewer:  mm-hmm what what about lima beans ?
604:  Lima beans is what butter beans.
Interviewer:  Oh I see
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  um say if you wanted to get the the beans out of the pods by hand you'd say you had to
604:  shell 'em
Interviewer:  okay and um outside of the ear of corn is called the
604:  shell
Interviewer:  and that that stringy stuff you have to take off
604:  Silks
Interviewer:  and the the thing that grows up at the top of the cornstalk
604:  It's a tassel
Interviewer:  okay and um corn that's tender enough to eat off the cob is called
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  okay and um something that um well you mentioned you had watermelon so there's different kinds of watermelon?
604:  mm-hmm There different kinds. yellow ones uh red ones some lime ones a streak in 'em, some green ones I mean some just solid green ya know? on the outside
Interviewer:  Do they have different names?
604:  I reckon so.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of um something that's similar to a watermelon that um
604:  Citron A citron?
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  That's something looks just like a watermelon but you can't tell tell it apart hardly but ya can't cut it hardly
Interviewer:  Citron
604:  Uh-huh citron Make preserves out of them. Then I have the cantaloupes and um marsh melons
Interviewer:  What's the difference between them?
604:  Well uh cantaloupes is little bitty fellers like this. usually
Interviewer:  just about as
604:  #1 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 big as your #
604:  #1 Uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 your #
604:  and marsh melons are get to be great big
Interviewer:  but but they're both round?
604:  yeah both round and yellow when ya get them when they're ripe
Interviewer:  uh-huh And a citron you mentioned is It's real hard to open you say?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  and it looks like a watermelon?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of a pine melon?
604:  mm-hmm They's just about the same thing as a citron.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  They
Interviewer:  What's the difference?
604:  Well it uh citrons is a little harder to cut than pine melon It's the only difference I can tell.
Interviewer:  You call that a what melon?
604:  a pie melon pie melon and a citron
Interviewer:  A pie like the thing that you eat?
604:  They call it pie melon. And it's uh
Interviewer:  um what about something that would spring up little umbrella shade thing that spring up in the woods or fields after it rains?
604:  Uh mushroom
Interviewer:  okay Can you eat those?
604:  uh-uh I don't. {NW}
Interviewer:  Is there anything similar to that that has a different name ?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Thinking of toad stool or frog fin.
604:  Well that's a mushroom. That uh toad stools. It's a mushroom. Some grows out of the ground and some grows on wood rock and wood and different ways ya know
Interviewer:  but it's it's all the same thing?
604:  It's all same thing
Interviewer:  And uh
604:  All mushrooms. {NS}
Interviewer:  Say if um if a boy got a whipping you say well I bet he did something he
604:  ought not to
Interviewer:  okay and um if if you're refusing in a very strong way to do something you might say No matter how many times you ask me to do that I just
604:  Not going to do it {NW}
Interviewer:  and um talking about kinds of animals now the kind of bird that can see in the dark
604:  I guess it's a bat.
Interviewer:  okay but what about the one that they can make that scary noise
604:  um I don't know uh Them old screech owls.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  make a freezing noise no hoot owls can make a loud noise And the old Think about that about the old howlers at night.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm what um
604:  lot of birds
Interviewer:  What about the kinda birds that that drills holes in the trees?
604:  That's an ol' woodpecker. {NW} a red head uh woodchuck or whatever you wanna call it.
Interviewer:  um Are there any other kinds of wood- woodpeckers?
604:  That's
Interviewer:  A woodchuck and a woodpecker is the #1 same thing? #
604:  #2 uh-huh # Woodchucks woodpeckers and woodhens
Interviewer:  Is one of 'em male and one the female or?
604:  I don't know
Interviewer:  woodhen and woodchuck?
604:  I imagine.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  But there woodhen is a big um bird
Interviewer:  Oh the woodhen is bigger than the?
604:  uh-huh It's the biggest. bird {X} that I know of except uh less it was eagle or crow or buzzard or something like that
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Have you ever had um woodpeckers called peckerwoods?
604:  mm-hmm Some folks calls 'em peckerwoods and some calls 'em woodpeckers.
Interviewer:  Who calls 'em peckerwoods?
604:  I don't know. just a lotta folks
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  peckerwoods I heared some peckerwoods down
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard that word peckerwood being used to talk about people?
604:  {NW} I don't know.
Interviewer:  I mean did no one ever say he's just an old #1 that old peckerwood #
604:  #2 {X} # just peckerwood Now I imagine I've heared that plenty of times. {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you know what it it means to
604:  It just wasting time I guess.
Interviewer:  Yeah
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  um what about a black and white animals that's got a real strong smell
604:  Polecat.
Interviewer:  and um
604:  a stunk
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  um
604:  polecat or a stunk whatever ya wanna call him he really put out the {NW} scent.
Interviewer:  um what kinds of talking about um say some animals have been coming and and raiding your hen roost and you didn't know exactly what kind they were You might just say I'm gonna get me a gun and {NS} shoot does what?
604:  Whatever it is {NS} stealing my chickens.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {NW}
604:  Except we used to have chickens here and the foxes eat 'em up.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
604:  Mm-hmm. and we had uh some little old {X} and they could rise and fly this down in the swamp there up to the house or they was down in the field down they could rise and fly get away from 'em we kept them pretty good while. There so many of 'em got killed after on the road by cars so we just quit trying to have 'em.
Interviewer:  did um talking about the animals that would come and kill things like like hens Would you ever have just a general name
604:  Fox. and uh they tell me coons will and um wild cats and possums {X} I don't know what else.
Interviewer:  Would you ever just call 'em varmints?
604:  mm-hmm Call 'em varmints
Interviewer:  What does varmints mean?
604:  That's means any kind that comes out of the woods.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and um a little bushy tailed animal that gets up in the trees
604:  squirrels
Interviewer:  okay what different kinds of squirrels are there?
604:  There are red squirrels and gray squirrels here.
Interviewer:  mm
604:  and uh they claim there have been few white ones #1 uh #
Interviewer:  #2 white squirrels #
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Never heard of those
604:  Real white.
Interviewer:  What's um what about something that looks sort of like a squirrel only he can't climb trees?
604:  I don't know unless it be a polecat
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm Have you ever heard of chipmunk or brown squirrel?
604:  Yeah but they can climb trees can't they? chipmunk
Interviewer:  What what does a chipmunk look like?
604:  Just a {X} {NS} just an ol' kind of a squirrel I'd call it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm is it smaller than a regular squirrel or larger or what?
604:  Mm-mm. Yes. Bout the same
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. and um something that pearls grow in?
604:  What now?
Interviewer:  pearls something you'd get down from the gulf people eat 'em raw sometimes {NW}
604:  I reckon you all 'em oysters huh?
Interviewer:  okay Do you eat those?
604:  No
Interviewer:  {NW}
604:  Oh there are several things I can't eat. Just don't eat. I guess I'm just kinda curious. {NW} Lotta folks likes {X} oysters and shrimp and um all that kind of stuff Wouldn't give you four bits for all that's underwater everywhere. Now I can eat fish if they're fresh but don't bring 'em here and put 'em in the deep freeze. I don't want 'em.
Interviewer:  Do you think that ruins the taste?
604:  I don't know I just Reckon it does, it just don't taste right. I can eat 'em when they're fresh yeah I just, I ain't no hog about it. But {X} whenever they uh can you get salmon sardines or what What have you, if it's canned, don't bring 'em to me. {NW}
Interviewer:  You don't like oysters at all?
604:  uh-uh No {NS}
Interviewer:  um what about something that you might hear making a noise around the pond at night?
604:  Frogs {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  What do you call those big ol' frogs?
604:  um We called 'em spring frogs {X} well they A lotta folks eats them old big frogs.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Did you call 'em spring frogs?
604:  I think so.
Interviewer:  Is there there any other kinds of frogs?
604:  Yeah there are the little toad frogs and there are the uh little old um tree frogs and there um
Interviewer:  Any other name for tree frogs?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  You ever heard of thunder frogs?
604:  No.
Interviewer:  That's another name I think that someone told me that. uh what might you dig up to go fishing with?
604:  Uh earthworms
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  So there are different kinds of worms? yeah Earthworms and grub worms ya dig up
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Then you can get {D:sawyers} off old dead logs and and
Interviewer:  Then you can get what?
604:  {D:Sawyers}
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  That's something right under the bark when a tree falls. and uh gets to where the it gets wormy
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  When you peel that ol' bark off get you a bunch of {D:sawyers}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  they look like a grub worm but they real flat heads as flat as a {X} goes under the bark
Interviewer:  What about
604:  real good fish bait
Interviewer:  What about a a small fish you might use for bait?
604:  Minnows
Interviewer:  mm-kay and um something that little hard shell thing that can pull its neck and legs into its shell
604:  {NW} Well it's a gophers and terrapins and uh uh
Interviewer:  Do they stay on land or in water or?
604:  Both There some terrapins in the water and there are some hard shells they call 'em on the ground. {C: Lots of noise} {NS} travels on the ground.
Interviewer:  What about a gopher, what's that like?
604:  It's a big ol' hard shelled outfit and he pull his head and legs in too.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Is there anything special about him?
604:  Not a thing that I know of. He can really make a hole in the ground.
Interviewer:  Oh he can?
604:  I heard that people would eat 'em and I never seen it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. um Name something that talking about insects now and kind of insect that'll fly around a light
604:  Ooh horse flies and bees and bumblebees and uh wasps and dirt daubers mosquitoes and all kind of bugs are gathered to a light
Interviewer:  uh-huh um what about something that builds a stinging insect that builds a a nest sort of
604:  Hornets.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and um Do dirt daubers sting you?
604:  uh-uh They bite but they won't sting.
Interviewer:  They'll bite?
604:  uh-huh They don't don't make no {X} bite
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  but they'll clench ya a little bit
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  and a wasp will really stick it to ya yellow jacket
Interviewer:  What where does a yellow jacket build its nest?
604:  In the ground
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and uh what about something that flies around a light at if you grab it powder would come off in your hand
604:  light
Interviewer:  uh-huh an insect if you grab this insect
604:  butterfly
Interviewer:  okay and um so something that's similar to a butterfly but not quite the same thing
604:  um these old uh catalpa trees out here has uh uh a big ol' things like butterflies but their bodies bigger than a butterfly
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and they lay eggs on them leaves and {NS} first thing ya know the trees just eat up the worms
Interviewer:  What do you call those things
604:  {NS} The catalpa worms.
Interviewer:  Oh the things that that {NS} like a butterfly
604:  We'll call 'em catalpa flies.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm um what about something that'll get in your wool clothes?
604:  um
604:  little ol' blue fish {NS} and little old uh moths and
Interviewer:  That was a what?
604:  A moth.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NS}
604:  little other things that'll cut up wool clothes
Interviewer:  uh-huh What about something that, that has light in its tail?
604:  Lightning bug.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} And um a long thin-bodied insect that's got two pairs of shiny wings
604:  Mosquitoes I, mosquito hawks.
Interviewer:  Okay. Is there any other name for them? That you ever have? Snake something?
604:  Mosquito hawks all I ever heard 'em called.
Interviewer:  And a little {NW} insect that would get in your skin if you went blackberry picking.
604:  Redbugs.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  And ticks, seed ticks.
Interviewer:  Seed ticks?
604:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What do you call those those big ticks?
604:  Uh well, speck backs and blue ticks. The blue ticks get some nubs that get to be great big things. And the speck backs they is just a little old hard tick. They get on dogs. People too, if you get close. And the red bugs will just eat 'em up, some folks call them chiggers.
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  Chiggers.
Interviewer:  I see. What uh, what about the uh, that blue tick you mentioned. Now, what color is it?
604:  It's an old blue looking outfit, it gray looking.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
604:  Gray.
Interviewer:  I think I know what you mean and they, they get to be as big as say
604:  yeah.
Interviewer:  As your fingernail.
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Yeah, I've heard them called cow ticks.
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  But uh I didn't know, I guess that's where you get blue tick from or something I guess. Um what about an insect that hops around in the grass?
604:  What a frog?
Interviewer:  Uh an insect.
604:  Oh, insect. A grasshopper.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay have you ever heard them called hoppergrass?
604:  Uh-huh. I just stopped {NS} I didn't know how to say that. {NW} Grasshoppers.
Interviewer:  And say if you hadn't cleaned a room in a while up in the, in the ceiling, in the corner.
604:  Oh spiders.
Interviewer:  Or are the thing you'd find stretched up there would be
604:  Spider web.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And uh what about something like that outside maybe across a bush?
604:  Mm-hmm. Spider webs.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And uh The part of the tree underneath the ground those are called the...
604:  Roots.
Interviewer:  Okay Did you ever year of using uh roots or vines for medicine?
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What, what would you use {X}
604:  Well it used to be, we called it scurvy grass.
Interviewer:  Scurvy grass?
604:  Uh-huh some folks called it bluegrass.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  And {NS} you could take it and make a cup of tea and it was a good {D: pergatea} {NS} and uh then {D: old field} pine. It's a little old bush it grows on the ground that's uh {NS} you can make a tea out of that. {NS} And sweat a fever out.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  And uh you can take uh {D: Pollypotus}
Interviewer:  {D: Pollypotus}?
604:  Uh-huh. {D: Pollypotus}. And you can uh chew the root of it up and spit the, just drink the juice out of it. You spit the root out. And it cures {D: pies} And uh
Interviewer:  It cures what?
604:  {D: Pives} If your, people seeing guts going out
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  They call it uh what is it? Thyroid? Hemorrhoids
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. I see. {NS}
604:  And They have a lot of different little old things like that.
Interviewer:  What does this {D:pollypotus} thing look like?
604:  Well it's just a kind of a {D: brogue} leaf {NS} little old thing it grows in the woods.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  And it makes a {D: touch} comes up I mean the stem up. And it has just a few leaves on the stem. Then it has a noble thing on bulb or thing on top and when it opens up, it's kind of a fuzzy looking flower. And it soon gets uh dry, dried up. And it just blows fuzz all over. Everywhere.
Interviewer:  Hmm, I see. Think I've seen those before. Uh what kind of trees do you have around here?
604:  We have oak. Pines. Pecans. Uh Redbuds. Uh Poplar. Black gum.
604:  Magnolias.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  Oh and a lot of different kinds of trees.
Interviewer:  What kinds of bushes do you have?
604:  Woo {NW} We have uh Huckleberry bushes and uh coralberry bushes and {NS} Tongue tree bushes
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  Tongue tree bushes.
Interviewer:  Tongue tree?
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Oh it's the same?
604:  Uh-huh tongue or tree bush.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
604:  And uh we have the {NS} {D: crate murdem} We have the highland {D: murdem}. We have a
Interviewer:  Did you have a red bush a bush that turns red and gets berries on it and
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  It's a mulberry.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh what about a bush that might grow along the road {NS} by a fence and the leaves turn bright red in the fall. Um it has clusters of berries on it.
604:  Um Possum holes.
Interviewer:  What?
604:  Possum holes.
Interviewer:  I never heard of that. {NS}
604:  And uh it's just a little bush that grows along the side of the road.
Interviewer:  Did you have sue or shoe?
604:  A what?
Interviewer:  Sue or shoe?
604:  Shoemake. Oh yeah a lot of shoemake.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What um What about a tree that it has long white limbs and white scaly bark.
604:  Sycamore.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um the kind of tree that George Washington cut down.
604:  Was that a sycamore? What was it?
Interviewer:  Tree that has a little
604:  Oh yeah. Cherry tree.
Interviewer:  Okay What kinds of um berries do you have around here?
604:  Bright berries, Huckleberries, and um gooseberries and uh highland {D:myrtle} highland uh Huckleberries and uh We have all kinds of bush berries.
Interviewer:  What about a red colored berry?
604:  Cherries?
Interviewer:  Yeah but uh something you make shortcake out of?
604:  Strawberries?
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about a berry that has a rough surface? And some are red and some are black? Did you ever have ras-
604:  Raspberries?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh, do you have them around here?
604:  No we don't grow them around here.
Interviewer:  What kinds of uh bushes or vines will make your skin break out if you touch it?
604:  Uh gold berries not gold berries but uh mm Some kind of poison berry let me see.
Interviewer:  Well, not necessarily berries but just what kind of bushes
604:  Oh.
Interviewer:  or vines.
604:  Oh um
604:  I can't even think. I know there's some that you don't touch though. Can't call it now. {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear ivy or poison oak?
604:  Ivy and poison oak, both grows here. And they're known well. The kind of vines that grow up the trees it poison you too.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What's the poison oak look like?
604:  It's just a little old bush.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  Has leaves. It don't look like a oak leaf but about the size of a oak leaf.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} Do you have a {NS} laurel or
604:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What's the laurel?
604:  It's a green, it's uh just a bush has green limbs, green leaves on it. And the leaves is kinda thick.
Interviewer:  Does it have flowers?
604:  I don't believe.
Interviewer:  Uh say if a If a married woman didn't want to make up her own mind about something, she'd say she had to ask her
604:  Husband.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um {NS} And the man would say I have to ask
604:  His mother. {NW}
Interviewer:  Talking about her
604:  Oh have to ask her, his wife.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And a woman whose, whose husband is dead is called a...
604:  A widow woman.
Interviewer:  Okay and if um if he just left her, then she'd be a
604:  Widow.
Interviewer:  Yeah, no he left her.
604:  Oh. Then she'd be a Oh uh
Interviewer:  He's still alive.
604:  Oh yeah.
Interviewer:  You say grass?
604:  What?
Interviewer:  Grass widows? Do you
604:  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh I'm trying to think of that. {NW} She's a grass widow.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the, the man who's child you are is called your
604:  Daddy.
Interviewer:  Okay or another name. He's called your
604:  Father.
Interviewer:  Okay, and his wife is your...
604:  Mother.
Interviewer:  Okay and together they're your
604:  Parents.
Interviewer:  Okay. What did you call your your father?
604:  Called him uh pappy.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  And we called our mother mommy.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  Mommy and pappy.
Interviewer:  And.
604:  And no one nobody else ever done that around here. They always said dad and mother.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  Some things like that. Maw and paw and so on but we always said pappy and mommy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  That's the way they taught us and we {X} so we always called them that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about your father's father? What did you, what would he be?
604:  He'd be my grandpa.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What did you call him?
604:  Grandpa.
Interviewer:  Okay, and uh