Interviewer:  {B} Your name?
604:  {NS} age? {NS} and your address? {NS} and name of this community? Greenville
Interviewer:  How you said its its longer to
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  isn't this closer to Baxterville?
604:  They don't have post office there anymore.
Interviewer:  I see so okay. Greenville's not on my map.
604:  Well that's this is just a Greenville community we used to have a big school up here {NS} and a church {X} people just lives around you know
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and that that was Greenville school and Greenville church
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and so this is Greenville community.
Interviewer:  About how how far away is it from {NS} from the other cities here?
604:  Well it it's uh fourteen miles to Purvis it's sixteen miles to Columbia it's seven miles to Baxterville and it's about twelve miles to Sumrall. That's all the way around.
Interviewer:  {NS} That's pretty much right in the
604:  uh-huh yeah on the Purvis and Columbia road this is a little cutoff through here to Baxterville
Interviewer:  This road goes to Baxter- #1 ville #
604:  #2 uh-huh # uh-huh goes right into Baxter
Interviewer:  I was wondering about that #1 I got lost #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  The only way I knew how to get back out was {X} and Purvis
604:  mm-hmm. Well when this hit this road right up there you go into Purvis.
Interviewer:  {X} this road here
604:  Leads to Baxterville you know it hits thirteen about two miles outside Baxterville.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm I see Where do you go in to do your shopping?
604:  at Purvis
Interviewer:  that's uh
604:  That's for groceries now when I go to buy other material I used to go to {X} Columbia.
Interviewer:  So Baxterville is is just a a little commun-
604:  yeah just like Greenville.
Interviewer:  I see. um Where were you born?
604:  Well I was born here in {X} county.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Where?
604:  It's about four miles up here in the Bay Creek community
Interviewer:  Bay Creek community?
604:  Uh-uh
Interviewer:  About four miles toward going toward
604:  #1 Perks #
Interviewer:  #2 Perks # Is this where you've lived all your life?
604:  mm-hmm Yeah
Interviewer:  When did you move out here?
604:  Um well I married when I was nineteen
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  And um moved right {NS} on this same farm
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  right down there and then we bought this place up here and lived here for um about fifty-two years
Interviewer:  That's a long #1 time #
604:  #2 been # been living here
Interviewer:  and you just built this new house
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  recently Uh how is old did you say you were?
604:  um uh seventy-eight last April second
Interviewer:  And tell me about um the work that that you've done.
604:  Oh {NW} Well I've worked on the farm most of my life but I've worked eleven years in factories.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
604:  uh-huh I've worked five years at Columbia and I worked seven years in uh {D: Gulfport}
Interviewer:  In what?
604:  {D:Gulfport).
Interviewer:  Oh so you lived down there?
604:  No I've just well I come home every weekend
Interviewer:  Oh I see
604:  done my week's chores {NW} {X} ya know cleaned up clothes and {NS} washed and ironed and things like that checked on the children this year in school
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Their grandparents live with us so I could go {X} my husband is here too.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Gulfport's pretty far away isn't it?
604:  It's about eighty mile.
Interviewer:  So so when you were working at Columbia that {D:wasn't} any problems you could just
604:  #1 Oh yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Um And then what what else did you do besides the factory?
604:  It's all I ever done away from home except I'm a member of the welfare board and I've been on that now about twenty-eight years
Interviewer:  What do you do on the welfare board?
604:  Well well we um hear the complaints of the people {NS} needs welfare
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then we pay {X}
Interviewer:  Also you
604:  whether it'll be ya know whether we think it's right well we put it down when we know it's right
Interviewer:  so
604:  help 'em out
Interviewer:  oh I see Um Then you you mentioned that you did some teaching or
604:  Well just ya know when a teacher'd be sick or out for a funerals and things like that maybe be gone for a week or so well I'd teach ya know in their place.
Interviewer:  What church do you go to?
604:  Greenville
Interviewer:  Greenville
604:  Baptist
Interviewer:  The one right
604:  #1 right up there #
Interviewer:  #2 up there #
604:  mm-hmm not quite a mile
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  And um tell me about um your education what's if you remember the name of the school you went to and how far you got
604:  Well it was Greenville school
Interviewer:  mm-mm
604:  and I just got me I mean I just finished eighth
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Was that as far as that school went?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Wha- what was the school like? was it a
604:  It it was a {NW} pretty nice school ya know when I first started to school I was little started to school well it was just a a church house and where I went to school in a church house for a few years {NW} then we built I mean they built a school house {NS} the community did so I went to school there {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you um did you go how many months did you go out of the year?
604:  {NW} about six
Interviewer:  uh-huh Do you do much reading now or
604:  Not too much {X} just papers {NS}
Interviewer:  What is that
604:  {NW} I had to spend times {X} read the home life and that's a church paper ya know
Interviewer:  Tell me some about um well you mentioned you were on the welfare board Are you active in any other organizations?
604:  No that's the only one.
Interviewer:  What about church are you very active in church?
604:  No I just go {NW} they got so many young folks that can teach now so good ya know
Interviewer:  What um {NS} Tell me some about the the traveling that you've done
604:  Traveling
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  {NW} Well I've been in seven different states.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
604:  uh-huh I've been in uh New Mexico and uh Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. {NW}
Interviewer:  That's pretty wide traveling.
604:  When I was out in uh New Mexico went down {X} caves ya ever been {D:down} you oughta go sometimes that's wonderful oh I don't know if it's like it used to be or not but I've been through three times it's wonderful sight you go down down down I don't know how How far it is down don't remember but um when we's going down they stopped us ya know way down in {X} and turned out all the lights so we could see total darkness. and I'm telling you you felt like you could almost taste it it was so black {NW} it was {NW} so dark and then um we went on down and uh a piece above them they'd turned out the lights where we was and showed us a place back in there and called it uh New York City
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and it really looked like a city back there but of course they just had it fixed with lights and things and it it was beautiful then we went down on {NS} went around to all the {NS} scenery {NS} we first started after we got down they uh seated everybody on a rock they had seats made up on this rock and they seated us there and sung I mean they played the rock of ages that put a feeling on you you know you way down there you know see all these things and hear it too and but oh how I enjoyed it {NW}
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  {NW} {NW} I have {NW} a daughter that lives in Abilene, Texas.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and so uh we went from her home that's out on {NS} {X} you know
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  high plains I call it so went out there and went down oh I said I would never go again you know you see the mountains up down there and people just are passing just flying by up there {D: and} oh I hope I don't have to go up that high {X} {X} oo I hope I don't have to go down that far {NW} {NW} oo It's it just really {X} I remember we was going down the {NS} steps and uh {X} caves and they was a bunch of boys there {D: they'll send sixty{ {X} and oh they was having the best time looked like and uh my daughter was with me she's my youngest one {NW} she says I want my Momma and it sounded like it went plum to the bottom of the {NW} and them boys just {X}
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
604:  #2 {NW} # Everybody just laughed we all had a lot of fun. {NW} just things like that {X} when I went down in Florida I went with uh-uh the Father's Day I went down in Florida. I been in Florida more than once {X} when I went with one of my nieces that lives in uh Houston, Texas. She's uh she hunts rocks
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh we went down on the coast line and for her to pick up rocks and I'm telling you I don't remember how far we did go {NW} but we went a way down.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  but uh {NS} then I've been two three times more and then I been in when I went over in Georgia My son was in service over there.
Interviewer:  Where was he stationed?
604:  at um Macon
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and they called it camp Wheeler out at the camp
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  camp Wheeler I didn't go out to the camp I just went to Macon and he met me there. Spent a week with him. And he's supposed to leave then go overseas well when uh I come home. I he call me and told me he says well I'll be leaving tomorrow to go overseas and when um the next day he called me
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  just a little after nine and he said wouldn't go wouldn't go overseas I said well what's wrong? What happened? He said well I have developed asthma since I've been over here and he says uh They say I can't stand salt water So he says they carried me out yesterday afternoon {NS} I developed asthma and they brought me back. So he says I won't go overseas Well I was proud he wasn't going overseas but I was just so upset about him having asthma.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Oh my goodness that just worried me. But {NS} He's still going. {NW} He works at uh {X} {D: data.}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {D: outside} {X} for the American sand and graphite people.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Tell me about your parents. Where was your mother born?
604:  In {X} county in Mississippi.
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Where where is that?
604:  It's uh ya know where {X} Mississippi is?
Interviewer:  No
604:  {NW} Well it's about a hundred and sixty miles north of here
Interviewer:  What about your father?
604:  He was born {X} they married up there before they ever moved down here
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  They called this the pinewoods back then up there don't grow big pines and things like it do down here used to be big big pines here you know but it's all been cut out.
Interviewer:  And how far did they get in school?
604:  They both stopped. I don't know
Interviewer:  mm-mm
604:  but they both taught school
Interviewer:  Did they do any other work besides teaching?
604:  Oh yeah You know back then didn't teach but about six months in the year and they um farmed and he made jewelry and {D:different} things like that.
Interviewer:  He made jewelry?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  That's unusual.
604:  {NW} He uh he made earrings and uh necklaces and cufflinks and hairpins and hatpins and uh watch chains all kinda things he ordered his wire from some company and And I guess it was gold because it still don't {X} I was little. And he done that kinda work. And he built it for the weekends lots of times ya know he come home Sun- Saturday nights but he'd leave Friday and go off to town and he'd come home {NW} really help us out
Interviewer:  Yeah.
604:  {NW} For him to make that jewelry {X} {D: Sunday.}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Ma- Mother always stayed home with the children.
Interviewer:  What about um your grandparents on your mother's side?
604:  Well
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  Uh I remember her a little bit but my grandfather on my mother's side got killed in the war.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and my grandmother married again She married a feller {D:Baget} And um They was {X}. my mother was a {X} and um Then she married a {D:Baget}. And she lived up here {X} it's about twelve miles {X}.
Interviewer:  Your grandmother?
604:  Uh-huh my grandmother.
Interviewer:  And how how did it happen that your your mother was way up in North Mississippi?
604:  Well they was up there too. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 they #
604:  They lived up here though. They moved down here. They was from up in {X} county. They all moved back down here #1 see #
Interviewer:  #2 oh I see # Your your grandparents #1 {X} #
604:  #2 mm-hmm # Yeah on both sides.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  mother and daddy
Interviewer:  They were from that
604:  Uh-huh
Interviewer:  up in North Mississippi?
604:  Yeah {NS}
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
604:  and they moved down here in Lamar county. {X} and that's where raised their families.
Interviewer:  When did um when did your parents move down to this county?
604:  Oh honey I don't know {X} where I was born I {X} don't have no record of it.
Interviewer:  You think they were grown then?
604:  Grown? They was married. They married in {X} county.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Then they moved down here.
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
604:  And uh I think they had one child when they moved down here and lemme see lemme see how oh shoot {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  {X} I've got a record here somewhere I wanted. {NS} Found out just how old she was {NS} Well don't know what I've done with my little book. {NS}
Interviewer:  Well it's not that important I just wanted to get an idea {X} {NS}
604:  Well it's {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  What work did ya
604:  {X} It had a been about eighty out ni- ninety years ago when they moved down here.
Interviewer:  uh-huh What work did um did your grandparents on your mother's side do?
604:  Well they farm's all I know {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you know where their family came from before that?
604:  uh-huh uh North Carolina
Interviewer:  Oh I see. {NS} Uh-huh Do you know where North when that was that they came?
604:  No I don't. I don't know. {NS}
Interviewer:  What about your grandparents on your father's side?
604:  Well they was they was Mississippians {NS}
Interviewer:  They were from that
604:  #1 Yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  I think so
Interviewer:  What um work did they do or how far did they get #1 in school #
604:  #2 just {X} #
Interviewer:  just fourth? {NS}
604:  all I ever knew of {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you know where they came from before that?
604:  No I'm not sure but I think they all come from there. It it mighta been North Carolina where they come from.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {NS}
604:  I just I'm not sure but it was Carolina the Carolinians where they come from both of 'em
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  all them
Interviewer:  Um {NS} I guess you were married.
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  {X} You've been married?
604:  Oh yeah That was my husband's picture right over there.
Interviewer:  I see. Is he dead now? {NS}
604:  Yeah he's been dead twenty-four years this past June.
Interviewer:  How old was he when he died?
604:  Fifty-seven. No fifty-nine Pardon me.
Interviewer:  Does what church did he go to?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Is that a baptist church?
604:  Mm-hmm yeah just two miles right over here.
Interviewer:  Was he born from around here?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  What work did he do?
604:  Well he worked in uh {X} and he worked on the roads uh running graders on the road and all just different things and always had his farm.
Interviewer:  yeah {NS} How far did he get in school?
604:  About like I did.
Interviewer:  About eighth grade?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  And um was he very active in church or?
604:  Pretty good. He is a deacon.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. Did he travel much or belong to any clubs?
604:  Well he um belonged to the Masons and um {NW} that's about all he gone to except just the church.
Interviewer:  What about his parents? What do you #1 know #
604:  #2 oh # They come from the coast down here. they
Interviewer:  Do you know what work they did or
604:  no
Interviewer:  anything like that?
604:  Just farming I imagine.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Now I guess this community's changed pretty much #1 since #
604:  #2 oh # {NW}
Interviewer:  Tell me about
604:  #1 Oh I I #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  Well just ya know just people moving in and out that's
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  makes a big difference in the community. what it used to be of course we have ways traveling now we used to didn't have
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  We had to go in a buggy or a wagon or something I guess ya know?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Now it's cars, motorbikes, bicycles, {NW} things like that it makes a lot of difference.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Was this um do people still do the same type of work that they did?
604:  Oh yeah it's farming all #1 through here. #
Interviewer:  #2 Still farming? #
604:  Well it's not uh it's not making crops like you used to it's mostly uh pastures for cows now.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Raise cattle instead a getting out there and farming like we had to making cotton and corn and stuff like that.
Interviewer:  um One thing I kept noticing um they are people not required to have their their animals fenced in?
604:  No this is free range out here. We have free range. {NS} We got {NS} {NS} sixty or seventy handy cattle anyway ain't none of 'em shut up {X} calves were {NW} where we {NW} milk the cows {NW}
Interviewer:  That seems so so strange to me to be driving along and have these cows in the road.
604:  Oh yeah I guess so. Yeah Everybody that lives through here though knows you know whenever they get out the country where they cattle has open range. Now {NS} it's not all over it's not all over the counties it's part of it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm You said um you had places fenced in for the cows?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  What do #1 you #
604:  #2 pastures #
Interviewer:  Oh I see. Um I'd like to get an idea of the house that that you grew up in. Could you sort of make a sketch of it for me?
604:  {NW} Oh wow.
Interviewer:  Just for the {D:royal} tour ya know just just to get a general idea or the house that you lived most of your life in
604:  Well 'til I got married I lived in {D:um or a} a house that had um a front porch to it and on each end of the porch was a bedroom there's twelve of us children
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  {NW} I can't draw. And um then there was a a porch ya know between these two rooms and it went into what we call a living room is big fireplace room there and I had a bed in that room and then there's a bedroom back a that and it had uh two beds in it and uh that made five beds and then there's a long part of the house back there that had the kitchen and dining room and a back porch to that.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Let me try to draw that and you tell me
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  bout what shape was it? rectangular or
604:  Uh-huh it's long.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {X} {X}
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Something like that?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  Okay then you said it was a porch? #1 {X} #
604:  #2 uh-huh # There's a porch across here and there's a room here and a room there.
Interviewer:  Oh the end of #1 the #
604:  #2 and #
Interviewer:  porch?
604:  Uh-huh on the end of the {X}
Interviewer:  How far out did the porch go?
604:  Well it was far enough out it had a bedroom on it. and then this um
Interviewer:  So there was a
604:  This room over here now it was a a post office one time. {NS} {NW} It was named {X} post office.
Interviewer:  uh
604:  and this there's a road come across here in front of the house and that was the road from Purvis to Columbia and the mail carrier brought the mail through here and uh this {X} post office. It's the only one he had to stop at
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  between Columbia and Purvis.
Interviewer:  What um how how big was this? I just make a line here?
604:  Uh-huh Come on up here and leave it {X} porch {X}
Interviewer:  What direction is this right here?
604:  This {NW} now this is East and this is West.
Interviewer:  I see
604:  And back a the
Interviewer:  {D:do this with me} So the house faces South?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  And then the Southeast corner is that room
604:  #1 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 where the post #
604:  post office was
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  This is bedroom but after they moved the post office {D: something here} we used that for a bedroom
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  And then there's a a partition through here and there's a room that went through here into the kitchen. dining room
Interviewer:  There was a room {D:how}?
604:  There's uh up here was the kitchen and this is dining room and then that was the back porch back there.
Interviewer:  Oh this was a
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  This was a porch here?
604:  uh-huh.
Interviewer:  and where was
604:  that's the dining room
Interviewer:  #1 oh I see #
604:  #2 and # this is the kitchen
Interviewer:  So you have a the {D:petition}
604:  #1 and this is #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  #1 yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  and this is the living room there's {X} right here {NW}
Interviewer:  So living room then is #1 the Southeast? #
604:  #2 and then the yeah. # Then I had bedrooms on down through here. #1 and the door #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  uh-huh and the doors went through here the middle
Interviewer:  So you have a bedroom you have three rooms in the South corner
604:  #1 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 South end # of the house in the East Southeast is the living room
604:  yeah
Interviewer:  then in in the middle is the bedroom and then the #1 Southwest #
604:  #2 bedroom #
Interviewer:  is the bedroom?
604:  Yeah yeah so bedroom and we use this for a bedroom {NS} after the post office moved out.
Interviewer:  and the Northeast is a kitchen?
604:  And right out here we had a well and that's where we got our water.
Interviewer:  and the dining room is the
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  uh Northwest in the
604:  #1 yes #
Interviewer:  #2 house? # Just West of the dining room's the back porch?
604:  yeah
Interviewer:  Oh I see. {NS} {NS} How long did you live in this house?
604:  Til I married. I was nineteen when I married.
Interviewer:  Then what what house did you move into?
604:  I moved down here. right down there
Interviewer:  that house you have
604:  well that house burned
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  when we lived in it got uh we sold that and built up here
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then uh after they sold it that house down there burnt We moved up here to this house and
Interviewer:  Did um did you have any hall in this house?
604:  Hall?
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Yeah we had a little hall from the living room here 'til you come in at the doors there you didn't go into the bedroom you just come down this hall and uh #1 from the living room #
Interviewer:  #2 halls {X} #
604:  uh-huh just a went in that way {X}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  come out that way um
Interviewer:  um
604:  That's {X} that live in there. {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  You mentioned um you had a fireplace.
604:  Oh yeah
Interviewer:  um that open open place on the floor in the front of the fireplace what was that called?
604:  Well it was a chimney ya know and then the fireplace is down
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  you see right back here
Interviewer:  #1 uh-huh #
604:  #2 That's # that's a fireplace with a chimney but {X} just flat level with the floor.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about that where those bricks are you call that {D:uh} you know that {x} what what I mean is this um this part down there
604:  uh-huh I called it just called it fireplace all I ever called it.
Interviewer:  uh-huh Did Did you ever cook on a fireplace?
604:  No I never did.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of anybody?
604:  Oh yes hear a lot of folks cooking on the fireplace and mother used to have an {X} she baked potatoes on the fireplace.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  but just to cook her meals she never did.
Interviewer:  Tell me about how she'd what this oven was like and how she
604:  Oh it's big {X} hold a half a bushel of sweet potatoes and uh she'd wash her potatoes and put 'em in there and then put uh coals under that oven and on top of it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh {NS} the potatoes'd bake and they was so good. They'd just be so soft ya could hardly peel 'em. just real good
Interviewer:  um You know there's the part of the fireplace that that you'd put this oven {NS} down in
604:  It was just part of the fireplace we'd just move the fire to one side and put the oven on the other side then sometimes the oven would be over on the other side.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Big ol' pot of a thing
Interviewer:  But you know there is a sort of a a stone or rock type um
604:  Our wasn't it was just a dirt chimney.
Interviewer:  Do you know what that's called?
604:  clay chimney uh-uh
Interviewer:  When you have that stone or rock thing in front of the fireplace that Have you ever {X} or hearth?
604:  hearth yeah everybody calls it a lot of 'em calls 'em that
Interviewer:  Well what's
604:  down on the hearth that's where you build a fire
Interviewer:  mm-hmm I see. {NS} said you were gonna build a fire if you put the wood on the
604:  down on the hearth
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  {NW} yeah It'd start ya fire.
Interviewer:  Did ya ever have anything to to lay the wood across on?
604:  Uh-huh. {X}
Interviewer:  okay
604:  #1 and um #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # What about say say the kind of wood you'd use to start a fire with what would that be
604:  We called it kindling {NS} or splinters.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Is there any other
604:  start it
Interviewer:  other type other name for that other type of wood
604:  Not unless ya poured a little coal all on the wood #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah # Do you ever hear {D:lightered}?
604:  Well that's kinda wood we burned was {D:lightered}.
Interviewer:  What's the difference between {D: lightered} and {D: kindling}?
604:  Well uh kindling ya bust it up and just have little pieces of it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and {D:lightered} just throw big ol' chunks of it on the fire {NS} and it makes a big fire
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about um when you talk about chunk what are you talking about?
604:  Uh big ol' pieces of wood ya can't hardly lift
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um the the big piece of wood that you might put toward the back of the fireplace burn for a long time what would that be?
604:  it'd be a big chunk of wood that's all I know {NW}
Interviewer:  um and the the thing up across of the board {X} up above the
604:  mantle shelf
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Any other names for that?
604:  {X} mantle shelf what I've always called it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about that black stuff that that um you know to clean out of the chimney
604:  smut {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard that called anything else?
604:  uh-uh
Interviewer:  {D:soot or soot}?
604:  yeah soot or smut or whatever ya wanna call it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and things that ya ya have to take a shovel and
604:  ashes
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um tell me about things that that you might have in a room? the thing that I'm sitting in
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  it's called
604:  chairs
Interviewer:  okay and um what about something that you might have in a living room for three or four people to sit on?
604:  a couch.
Interviewer:  Are there any other types of besides a couch? any other names?
604:  Oh yeah. lotta folks don't call 'em couches they call 'em ya know what I can't think right now. {NW}
Interviewer:  You ever hear {D: sofa}?
604:  yeah sofa
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  uh lotta folks calls 'em that
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing?
604:  Yeah same thing.
Interviewer:  What about what type things might you have in your bedroom to keep your clothes in?
604:  Well I call it a wardrobe.
Interviewer:  {X} What does that look like?
604:  Let me show you one. {NW} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  That wardrobe would be something that doesn't have a a mirror to it.
604:  No it doesn't have a mirror to it. Well now there are some that has a doors. all the way with the mirrors in 'em.
Interviewer:  What are they called?
604:  They're called the same thing.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  But uh
Interviewer:  This one you open the drawer open the doors and you have drawers
604:  No, the drawers is at the bottom down there. It's just shelves up in #1 there #
Interviewer:  #2 oh I see # So you don't have a place then for hanging up clothes? in that
604:  Yeah {NW} the shelf stops in place of the hang up {X}.
Interviewer:  What about some things other things that that have drawers in it that you might have in the bedroom?
604:  Well dressers and um {NS} I can't think now. I guess {NW}
Interviewer:  What's a dresser like? Does it have a mirror to it?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  What about um something like that only without a mirror? Did ya ever hear bureau or #1 dresser drawers #
604:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer:  or {X}
604:  Some folks called 'em bureaus like that in there
Interviewer:  That wardrobe?
604:  uh-huh that wardrobe uh yeah dresser drawers {D:wash stands} dresser drawers, bureaus all kinda things {NW}
Interviewer:  Something now a days though in new houses they'll lots a times they'll they'll build a little room of the bedroom for you to hang up clothes #1 in. #
604:  #2 mm-hmm # closet
Interviewer:  okay I guess you've got those #1 {X} #
604:  #2 {NW} # and we got a little pantry right there.
Interviewer:  Where did you used to keep what do you keep in the pantry? just canned goods and things? What'd you use to keep 'em before you
604:  {X} We had uh {NS} like this only it was closed in {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear {NS} you say you had shelves built around Did you ever have a {NW}
604:  here in the closet the in the kitchen here {C: bad sound quality} {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of a safe or anything like that?
604:  A safe? yeah used to have safes to put food in
Interviewer:  What was the safe like?
604:  {NW} Well there's different kind there's a we had two we had one that had um uh {X} and we had one that had metal and then the metal had uh ya know little holes that {D: made} a picture
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {NW} {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  What about um something that you might have in um have in in a window to cool down to keep out the light?
604:  shades
Interviewer:  okay
604:  window shades
Interviewer:  That's something solid now {D:is it}?
604:  uh-huh yeah
Interviewer:  And um the top part of the house is called a
604:  loft {D: or the} ceiling
Interviewer:  What's what's the loft?
604:  It's that's place up there we uh upstairs I call it now.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  uh it's floored up there and we got lots of stuff up there ya know
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  that we couldn't have down here. But we it was {X} {X}
Interviewer:  mm-mm
604:  and we put it up in the loft of the house
Interviewer:  I see. um
604:  Some folks it'd call it upstairs I guess.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  they call it {X} {NS}
Interviewer:  What would you call a a room like that that that you you just use to store things in that you didn't know what to do with?
604:  Closet I guess.
Interviewer:  okay um and um all these things that we've been talking about the the dresser and wardrobe and so forth just a general name for those would be
604:  what {NW}
Interviewer:  what what would you just
604:  well well I just call it a bedroom suit
Interviewer:  okay and if you wanted to buy something like that you'd go to what kind of store?
604:  furniture
Interviewer:  okay So would you use that word furniture?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  talking about Any other word would you say house fixing's a {X}?
604:  Oh I guess you could call it that I just call it furniture store. {NW}
Interviewer:  Did you ever see kitchen's built differently from from how they are now?
604:  Oh yeah I guess I have. {NW} Oh a I seen kitchens built off from the house
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  just another little house out there and a walkway to it you know from the house you lived in I never did I wasn't raised in one like that. {D: here comes} somebody {X} my daughter {X}
Interviewer:  and um what would you call a lot of old worthless things that you were about to throw away?
604:  garbage
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 okay # Any other names?
604:  {NW} uh Well I might call it by its name if I knowed what I was gonna throw away but
Interviewer:  uh-huh think of something like junk or #1 rubbage or trash #
604:  #2 uh-huh # yeah I don't like that.
Interviewer:  And um tell me about daily house work you said that a woman has to do what every morning?
604:  Well the- they supposed to but lot of 'em don't {NS} {NW} I get up in morning and fix some breakfast and then wash dishes making beds sweep the house {NS} Got company I forgot your name what is it?
Interviewer:  oh {B} {B} {NS}
604:  {X} chair went right {NW}
Interviewer:  Say if if you have a a two story house to get from the first floor up to the second floor you have a
604:  stairway
Interviewer:  okay and um something out- outside of the house say from the the ground up to the porch would be a
604:  steps
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um
604:  She's got me in school this morning {NW} and I can't think.
Interviewer:  Do do you remember on different types of porches seeing maybe a porch off the
604:  #1 Well there's some #
Interviewer:  #2 the second floor? #
604:  some closed in and the some that's open
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  some's got banisters and some don't
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of um different names for different kinds of porches?
604:  mm-hmm {NW} uh Used to be an old lady over here called 'em uh I don't know if I called it or not tell me what it is.
Interviewer:  oh I don't know {X} you ever
604:  I don't know
Interviewer:  balcony or
604:  uh-huh. balcony pass something like that passing I just always call it the porch or gallery.
Interviewer:  What's a gallery?
604:  That's a porch.
Interviewer:  Is is it the same thing?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Would ya talk about you know like that back porch you had at small back porch
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Would that be a gallery?
604:  Yeah a little gallery back there.
Interviewer:  I see. #1 and um #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  you said years ago on Monday women usually did what kind of work?
604:  Wash day.
Interviewer:  okay Could you tell me what that was like?
604:  Oo yes. {X} {X} {X} tubs get ya water in the pots and boil the pot {X} wash your clothes out first and put 'em in the pot get the dirt all ya can with your hands out and then put 'em in the pot boil 'em and then ya take 'em out of the pot and {X} {NW} then hang 'em up {NW}
Interviewer:  And then what?
604:  {X} dryer there wasn't no such thing as a dryer back then ya had to hang 'em out and let 'em dry
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Then what would you do?
604:  Bring 'em in iron and fold and put 'em away.
Interviewer:  uh-huh What might you call both washing and ironing together?
604:  cuz it all goes together you can wash and if you don't uh iron some of ya clothes {X} {NS} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  there one word you use to refer to washing and ironing?
604:  {D: Well I just}
Interviewer:  Is there one word that that would mean both washing and ironing?
604:  Yeah get up and get ya week's work done. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} # Um would you ever use the word laundry?
604:  Oh yeah. {NS} {NS} that's whenever you start {X} get it all through with and you {NS} done ya laundry and got it put away.
Interviewer:  uh-huh I see. and um you know some some houses have these kinds of {X} that sort of lap over each other
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  What's that? {NS}
604:  Can't think What is it? Ya know where the the {x} {X} on top always over the bottom one (X)
Interviewer:  Well that you'd have on on a farm and the buildings that
604:  They put 'em in?
Interviewer:  {D:huh}?
604:  The buildings they kept 'em in?
Interviewer:  Yeah.
604:  Well um {NS} We had {NS} two horses on our farm and um had two boys that plowed 'em and #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Mm-hmm. #
604:  and so we had a big barn though and uh had several uh stalls under that barn and
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  some cribs too. In some of the cribs we put cotton in, some we put corn in and different things like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  and kept feed in ya know we care to {D: the meals} and get {D:fixed}
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  in some of the stalls in {NW} uh
Interviewer:  What other animals did you have #1 in the #
604:  #2 oo we had # cows in the lot We had a lot built onto the barns. Ya know that?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  and we had cows and one time my daddy had a few goats. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {D:oh} #
604:  {NW} They said that only way to keep them goats from uh jumping in the field was just put up a ladder and let 'em walk over. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  {NW} They just go anywhere they want to.
Interviewer:  #1 Yeah #
604:  #2 goats will #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 # So he didn't keep these goats long but uh we had chickens and turkeys geese
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  Things like that out the back ya know down by the barn.
Interviewer:  What other animals did you have? to to eat maybe?
604:  Oh such as hogs?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  Yeah we had hogs turkeys and chickens that we use for meats and cattle.{NW} #1 We always #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  {X} a beef every year.
Interviewer:  Where'd you keep the hogs?
604:  In the woods just like these cows {X} out there 'til we get ready to fatten 'em then we pen 'em up. Feed 'em corn and sweet potatoes water things like that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  Get 'em get 'em real fat and kill 'em. That's where we get our grease and meat.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm Did you um ever have any special what what was this place you'd keep the hogs in? What did it #1 look like? #
604:  #2 We'd call 'em # pen. Well the way my Daddy always made his he made a pen and floored it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  So the hogs wouldn't be down in the mud and uh um they could get their feet out of the troughs up on that floored pen.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Did you um where where would you turn the the cows out to graze?
604:  Just in the woods like they are here.
Interviewer:  What if um {X} in some areas though where you'd have to
604:  #1 Well I #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  I had never lived in where they had to keep in pasturage ya know.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  There some places here in Lamar county that's that they have to keep 'em shut up but we have free range out here. Always have that.
Interviewer:  Haven't you had any trouble from that #1 it seems like #
604:  #2 Oh yeah we get #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 # I believe we done got two killed this year.
Interviewer:  mm
604:  Ya know people with their cars run into 'em.
Interviewer:  Who's fault is it then?
604:  Well uh it's the one that's driving cause they know this is open range. Unless it'd be somebody like you come in here and didn't know that it was open range ya know and was making lotta speed
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  and trying to get to somewhere right away. Well the people through here that has open range they don't um charge you nothing for killing their cow but you have your own expenses to fix your car.
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  #1 it's {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  that's free range. {NW}
Interviewer:  Say you got going to someone's house someone's house and tell them you know hey gee you know your cows have gotten out.
604:  {NW} #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  #1 yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  {X} We don't have to tell nobody about {X} we open the gates every morning and let 'em go.
Interviewer:  yeah Did you ever hear about anyone having a a fenced in place in a pasture? Where they might milk the cows?
604:  Mm oh yeah. People that don't have uh free range.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  They put 'em in pastures all the time. and that's where the that these dairies around they all have pastures.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  for just milk cows ya know
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Did did you ever hear say if you were gonna milk your cows um you might milk 'em in the barn or or you might have a a fenced in place.
604:  Yeah a lot.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  put 'em turn 'em in the lot have the calves in the lot and turn the cow in and milk.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Oh I see. um where Where in the barn um did you store hay?
604:  uh upstairs
Interviewer:  What did you call that upstairs?
604:  Well uh ya know ya had the the stables and uh hay and everything down here. and up there well uh That's where you'd put the upstairs where you'd put the feed for the cows.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Did you call that anything besides upstairs?
604:  Yeah we'd called it up the barn. {NW}
Interviewer:  um What did it look like up was it just a a #1 floored in place #
604:  #2 a big uh-huh just # floored in place
Interviewer:  and um suppose you had too much hay to to put up in the barn
604:  Well if you don't have enough room to put ya hay in the barn you have to stack it in the field and put a plastic cover over it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Did you ever see a any different types of of hay stacks?
604:  mm-hmm I've seen 'em stack it around poles.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {NW} Have a pole sticking up out of the ground and put hay all around it and then just cover the top of it and the cows would eat this hay down here where they can get to it #1 ya know #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
604:  and as they eat that out it keep coming down.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. and um When you first got hay you know and you you let it dry
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  or at least you used to now they #1 bale it but #
604:  #2 mm-hmm #
Interviewer:  um and it rake it up in little piles
604:  Yeah they'd rake it up and uh {NS} rolls across the field that way and then ya'd take it truck or wagon whatever you was hauling it in with a pitchfork and put it on the wagon and haul it 'til the barns {NS} #1 or stack it. #
Interviewer:  #2 What would #
604:  #1 {NS} #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  #1 in the field #
Interviewer:  #2 what was #
604:  #1 {NS} #
Interviewer:  #2 # What would you call that um {NS} amount that you'd take um those little piles that you'd take up with your pitchfork?
604:  Just a load of hay on your pitchfork's all I know.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Got about all you can carry with or {X}. {NW}
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  I was wondering if you had heard of a shock or a
604:  Well that's where you shock it around this pole ya know? you put it around there and they call it a hay stack shocked it up around this pole
Interviewer:  What do you mean by shocked then?
604:  Well that's stacking it up there to where it it won't fall{NS}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh you put a load and you get up there and you drop it down
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and make it be real tight to where it won't be blowing or falling or anything. It's shocking it.
Interviewer:  and um Do you ever have any special place for storing grain?
604:  Oh yeah. {NW} Well {NW} we just had corn cribs
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  throw the corn in the cribs.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear a grainer? or anything like that?
604:  Yeah I've hear that but I've never we never had one.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm um
604:  Yeah we put our rice in we used to raise our own rice.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
604:  Uh-huh
Interviewer:  I didn't know the climate was
604:  Oh yeah We raised our own rice and we had a big boxes with a lid to it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and we carried it to {X} and get it to cleaned and bring it back and put it in this big box.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  let it down have rice all year
Interviewer:  hmm Did you ever raise cotton?
604:  Oh yeah. It's how {X} with this place we raise cotton to pay for it. {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  Tell me about what that's like what sort of work you have to do.
604:  Well ya have to fix ya ground{NS} {NW} ya know and plant ya seed and then you um after ya cotton comes up ya chop it. They call it chopping cotton. Just leave it in {X} along ya know where you have room to {NS}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and make a a stalk and then ya then ya used to pick cotton in sacks but now they pick 'em with machinery.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm um What do you call that grass that grows up in the cotton field?
604:  Oh different kind {NW} some uh they crab grass and there some um oh I guess crab grass would be the worst. oh just all kind old grass and weeds.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  You have to hoe it out. Keep it clean so it won't be in ya cotton.
Interviewer:  You mentioned uh first of all you have to fix your ground.
604:  mm
Interviewer:  How do you do that?
604:  Well they ah they they get out there and plow it up ya know and then uh they call it flat breaking it #1 it just break it #
Interviewer:  #2 flat? #
604:  all every bit of it just break it up ya know and just let the plows go through and break it up and then they streak it all with a plow.
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  That's where you plow the row. just straight make a straight row across this field ya got broke up and then they they put their row down through there and another row {NS} {NS} {X} plant ya put ya fertilizer out and then put ya throw ya ground back on that fertilize and take a little plow on top {NS} well your planter get up on top of the little ridge and and ya planter as ya go along and put out the seed and the fertilizer {NS}
Interviewer:  What um different types of plows are there?
604:  Oh they're turning plows and sweeps and {X} uh scooter plows and
Interviewer:  What's a sweep?
604:  A sweep is a {X} and it's just about as wide as ya hand.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  It's like that.
Interviewer:  Also {X} shaped?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  and you plow out the middle and just leave it as clean and pretty as you please with a sweep then you now have a hairs side hairs around that cotton
Interviewer:  Are there different kinds of {X}?
604:  uh-huh There's some ya put on machinery and some ya put on horses. #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 Do you know names of # of some of the {X}?
604:  No we only just called 'em {X}.
Interviewer:  uh-huh What and what was the scooter plow?
604:  A scooter plow's what ya lay the row on with. {NS}
Interviewer:  What does it look like?
604:  {NW} It's uh oh about like that
Interviewer:  Like you have your hands overlapping {X}
604:  It's just kinda {D:narrow} ya know. Just about like that it's just a {NS} a little plow goes down in the ground.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {X} off the row.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. Have you ever heard of the gee whiz?
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  I've heared that but let me think what a gee whiz Uh {NS} I don't know if I ever seen one.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  But I've heared {NS} people say it.
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  gee whiz {NS} They gotta gee whiz or something like that but I I {NS} don't know. I wouldn't know what that was.{NS}
Interviewer:  Tell me about um how you used to keep milk and butter and what you had refrigerated.
604:  Well we didn't we didn't try to keep it.
Interviewer:  What?
604:  We'd just milk everyday ya know?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  um We skimmed the milk off next day and what milk we didn't use um We'd put the cream every two days we'd churn. Sometimes we'd have to churn everyday in the summertime ya know. and make the butter and so we'd if we had more than we needed well we just let the cow go on to the woods with the calf. We just shut up so many so we'd have plenty of milk and butter.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  But did you ever have any place for for keeping it cool? (X}
604:  Oh yeah I've seen 'em um let it carry it to the spring we call it the {X} and put it under the water.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. Um did you have a little house sort of built there or just lower it down in there? What about um water that'd you carry from the well would you put that any place that was closer to the house or?
604:  Uh the well was just right out in the yard if we wanted fresh water we'd just go draw some {x} and get fresh water. After it sat there a while you wouldn't want to drink it ya know. It'd get hot in the summertime.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh We'd just go back to the well and draw a fresh bucket of water.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of the water house or anything like that?
604:  I've seen 'em where they had sheds over them. well
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  We never did have one over our wells.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  We had a trough that'd come up to the well um pour water in that trough then {X} outside to where you could water the cows or horses or anything. We didn't bring 'em in the yard ya know. We just poured in this trough it'd run down there in their trough.
Interviewer:  I see.
604:  Just made a trough didn't hold a lot of water ya know.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  {X} draw the water out and pour it in the trough and had to run down on the outside into another trough.
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  cows and horses could drink but we lived among water we didn't have no trouble with that.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Plenty of springs and rivers, creeks and things around.
Interviewer:  um You mentioned the while they mentioned that the dairy Does that word have any other meanings? Do you ever talk about a dairies being anything besides just this farm?
604:  The dairies is uh you know the uh we used to didn't have dairies through here. Long time ago when I was a child but uh now they have 'em oh I don't know tween here in Columbia. Guess you'd {X} about three or four anyway.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  And uh They'd keep their cows in the pasture and they milked but they just machines that they got they put on the cows ya know and
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh they put the milk in tanks and then big trucks comes by and pick it up ya know.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  pump it into their tank and carry {NW} {X} {NS} #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # Where did you used to keep potatoes or turnips in the winter?
604:  {NW} Well we called it uh banking 'em. {NS}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  we uh clean off a place on the ground and put straw down there pine straw
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then pile the potatoes up way up so high #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 over #
604:  #1 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  yeah yeah some of 'em would be in uh we'd put straw over that then put a few corn stalks right up at the top for the they claimed the potato could breathe keep it from just
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  getting too hot and um go to sprout something like that get it air and so um then over top of that they'd just spread a little something over it or turn an ol' bucket or something over top of them stalks and {NW}
Interviewer:  I'm not sure I understand, would you have to dig something first or? how would you you couldn't It doesn't seem like you could just pile potatoes up on top of each other and not have it all fall over.
604:  #1 uh #
Interviewer:  #2 how would you #
604:  Well it it goes up like that you know you start down here in the big place
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  and uh oh then you fit just keep piling it up 'til it's sharp pointed.
Interviewer:  Like a pyramid
604:  #1 Yeah. #
Interviewer:  #2 sort of? #
604:  {NS} and uh they keep all year {X} in the Spring well you have your bed that you put the little potatoes in for seed next year
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh you tear them down and you bed 'em out on the ground and put straw over them and just a little bit of dirt first thing you know they just come up and they nice potato {D:draws} ya know{NS} take the potato {D:draws} stick 'em out in the field and they call these little plant {D:draws/straws???}
Interviewer:  {D:draws?}
604:  uh-huh potato {D:draws} and they've uh plant them out in rows and make potatoes.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. Did you ever store have to store turnips in the winter?
604:  Well we didn't have to but we have few times. just like ya did potatoes.
Interviewer:  Just a {D:bank}?
604:  Yeah just a ol' {D:bank}.
Interviewer:  What um what kind of fences do you remember seeing?
604:  Oh well uh rail fences and uh picket fence and uh bar fence {X} fence just about ever since I remember
Interviewer:  What kinds?
604:  Huh?
Interviewer:  What kinds? of {D:wire} fences?
604:  Well ya know it's like that. and then ya put a barbed wire across the top.
Interviewer:  What do you call {X} squares?
604:  You know how you see through it you know it's a little square. {NS}
Interviewer:  What um what was the rail fence like? Were there different #1 type #
604:  #2 Yeah #
Interviewer:  rail
604:  Uh no they rail fences all aligned{NS} {NS} built like this ya put one rail there and another here and then this one come on top of that and then I dunno on top of that got it up {X}
Interviewer:  Did you ever see um if if you wanted to um put a an extension if you wanted your your fence real fence to be higher?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  Something you could build?
604:  Yeah you can just keep building just as high as you can reach.
Interviewer:  uh-huh But did you ever see anything built like {X} like this and {X} like this and then lay a board across?
604:  Don't believe I ever did.
Interviewer:  okay And what what was the picket fence like?
604:  Well uh that's just uh pieces of uh material about has wide as one of them {X} about like that door facing there.
Interviewer:  About three inches?
604:  uh-huh about three inches wide I guess and uh then they'd put up two um strips down here closer to the {NS} one down close to the ground and one a way up here
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then they {X} ya know {NS} that was picket fence {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you ever see them built different from that?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  how?
604:  Oh well it they {X} well not just for a feet on the I've seen 'em around people's houses where they would fix 'em different.
Interviewer:  {X} they're still picket fences?
604:  they're still picket fences.
Interviewer:  um You said you were gonna put up a barbed wire fence you'd you'd have to do holes for the
604:  mm-hmm post
Interviewer:  uh-huh and how how many would would you use?
604:  Well um if you wanted a real good fence you'd put it every ten foot. But if ya just got it up there just to {D:hold} uh cows and calves back from trying to tear it down or you could put it good long ways from post to post ya know.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  but uh to have a real good fence you have to have it about every ten foot ya have to have a post to nail that wire to.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. And um did you ever see a fence with wall made out of loose stone or rock?
604:  Uh what kind?
Interviewer:  uh something you'd take stone or a rock from
604:  I have never seen 'em only just uh {D:round} homes ya know like on the coast or some place like that. I seen 'em One or two in the country but it's where they is {D:save} the old stones they'd plow ya know and used 'em for fence stack 'em up
Interviewer:  And um Suppose you had a real good set of dishes chances are they'd be made out of what?
604:  China?
Interviewer:  Okay. Did you ever see an egg made out of that?
604:  Any what?
Interviewer:  An egg made out of that.
604:  A China?
Interviewer:  uh-huh. What what would that be called?
604:  I don't know. I don't know is I ever seen a egg made out of China.
Interviewer:  Well something that you could put in a hen's nest.
604:  yeah I've seen a lot of them. I didn't know if they was China or just old {D:crock} or what. #1 Ya know? #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh. #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  Like you make jugs and things out of just painted white. {NS} I seen lots of little old {X} that they use for eggs ya know.
Interviewer:  uh-huh What do you call those little {X}? {X}
604:  No just a little vine that grows a little {X} #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What did you use to carry water in?
604:  Buckets.
Interviewer:  Wha- what were they like?
604:  Water bucket.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Well uh they was usually made out of cedar wood.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  with a brace band around 'em to hold 'em up ya know and then they had a handle.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  To carry
Interviewer:  What did you um milk into?
604:  Uh well we had milk buckets.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  They was uh I call 'em tin. They was uh great big round bottom to 'em and then they {X} made a big bucket at the top.
Interviewer:  So a bucket could be something either made out of
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  metal {D: or wood}
604:  Yeah either way.
Interviewer:  What um what would you use to carry carry food to the hogs in?
604:  Well a bucket too. {NW}
Interviewer:  What would you call that?
604:  Slop bucket.
Interviewer:  {NW} Okay.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And uh what sort of things cooking utensils do you have?
604:  Pots and pans.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What um what did people used to have when they'd cook on a #1 {X}? #
604:  #2 Oh # They had iron pots.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about something that um
604:  Ovens They had uh no ovens {X} baked {D:potaters} in
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  And uh bread too I think but we never did have We never did use that.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  When I was a little girl they had uh uh home comfort ranges. And uh mother had uh raised turkeys and bought her one before I was ever borned I guess.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  And uh whenever you raised anything like that to get anything out of it you had to carry it down on the coast to sell it. You know she'd raise a big bunch of turkeys and then
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  They'd take a wagon, load 'em all and sell 'em. She took uh I mean {X} rode off one time and bought her {X} range. and um {X} I don't before I was born {X} So I was raised with a {X}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Did you ever see what what would you use nowadays um say if you were gonna fry eggs?
604:  I I use frying pan or a skillet whatever will be able to call it Some folks calls 'em skillets and I call 'em frying pan.
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um what would people use to to um to heat up water to make tea?
604:  kettle
Interviewer:  okay. Did you ever use the word kettle talking about um the big thing you use for um boiling clothes in?
604:  Wash {D:pile/pot}
Interviewer:  Wash pot? You've never called that a kettle?
604:  {NW} Some folks might have.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  We always just said wash pot.
Interviewer:  uh-huh What would you call that thing that you use to um hit the the coals with? to to beat the coals with?
604:  {NW} A battling block.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  with a battling stick.
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
604:  but I never did use one then. but I know the older ones did.
Interviewer:  uh-huh What um suppose you you went up and cut some flowers and wanted to put 'em in the house you might put 'em in a?
604:  Vase.
Interviewer:  okay and um say you set the table you'd give everyone a plate and then you'd give everyone a?
604:  Knife and fork and spoon.
Interviewer:  okay and you say um if you serve a steak and it wasn't very tender you might have to put out steak?
604:  Knives.
Interviewer:  Okay and um {NS}
604:  See a set 'em right over there. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Oh yeah. #
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Say um after she washes the dishes then she what them in clear water?
604:  Scald 'em I called it.
Interviewer:  okay or or another word? She just takes clear water and?
604:  {X} {X}
Interviewer:  okay and what do you call the the cloth or wet rag that you use when you're washing dishes?
604:  A dish #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 okay #
604:  and a dry cloth.
Interviewer:  and uh what about the the little cloth or rag you use to bathe your face with? {NS}
604:  Washcloth.
Interviewer:  mm-kay #1 and um #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  to dry yourself off with?
604:  Towel.
Interviewer:  And um say you went want to turn on the water at the sink you'd you'd turn on the?
604:  hot one?
Interviewer:  yeah but the thing you turn.
604:  Oh you mean to spray the dishes?
Interviewer:  No just just the
604:  Oh the faucet.
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What about something like that that's outside that maybe you could hook your hose up to?
604:  uh-huh Two or three hydrants out there.
Interviewer:  uh-huh you call that a hydrant?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  and um {NS} Do you remember {NS} say if men would would work out in field and people'd bring water out to 'em in a wagon of something and and it the water would be in this this big container um what the the thing that you'd you'd turn to get the water out on that that container. What you call that?
604:  I guess that's faucet.
Interviewer:  okay and do do you remember?
604:  Well no we never had nothing like that. {NS} {NW} We'd just take a {NS} uh jug or a {NS} jar or something like that ya know
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  carrying water to the field wasn't no big bunch to carry it to you it was just a
Interviewer:  yes {NS}
604:  If we was a several of 'em we'd just carry a bucket.
Interviewer:  Did how much land did you have? Did you have a
604:  My daddy had a hundred sixty acres.
Interviewer:  Pretty good size.
604:  mm-hmm Lot of it was in town {X} uh {NS} creek across it and some spring branches and things
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Now I don't know just how many acres he had in farm. {NS}
Interviewer:  You mentioned um creek and branch and so forth
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Could you explain to me what the
604:  Creek is?
Interviewer:  Yeah what
604:  uh ya know um you cross one right up there a little branch
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Well now that's what I call a branch. It's just a small stream.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and a creek is a little bigger.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  just the other side uh uh the little grocery store up there
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  it {X} now that's a creek. We call it {X} {X} creek. and then when it gets on down here where all these streams comes together it's a river.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and the river's right down there.
Interviewer:  There anything else besides the creek and branch of the river?
604:  Spring. There's some springs along here.
Interviewer:  What's the spring?
604:  That's where water comes up out of the ground and
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
604:  and comes Winter and Summer it don't never dry out no matter how dry the weather gets.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Springs {X}.
Interviewer:  What um what would you call a a stream that that drys up when it's and it hadn't been
604:  I just call it a branch.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  like {D: tween} right down the hill there. Now that runs water during all the Winter months here but sometimes in the Summer we have a dry spell and it dries up.
Interviewer:  Oh I see.
604:  And that's just the old branch down there
Interviewer:  um
604:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 What is the # the names of some of the the streams in this area?
604:  Well this is Little River. #1 and #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  back across over on that side of the river is oh what we call a {X} No {X} {X} That's {X}.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {X} {X}. and um {X} uh {X} {X} little bay and uh the spring branches all come through to this one stream and that makes a river.
Interviewer:  What what river?
604:  Little River.
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  Uh they called it Upper Little River.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Then there one on the towards Columbia called Lower Little River. Ya know where the streams all comes together.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  goes on ya {NS} {X} into {D:Pearl} River and {D:Pearl} River goes into New Orleans down there.
Interviewer:  Down to the #1 Gulf? #
604:  #2 yeah # uh-huh at the Gulf it uh that's Slidell It starts in down there they call it Lake {X}. {NS} Lake {NS} {NW}
Interviewer:  What did you use to buy flour in?
604:  {D:barrels}
Interviewer:  mm-kay What about um if you didn't buy that that much flour say if you bought
604:  Yeah they always sell 'em in sacks.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  You could buy it in sacks.
Interviewer:  And um what um so well say now that if you went to the store and bought some apples or something the grocer would probably put it in a?
604:  Paper bag.
Interviewer:  okay.
604:  {NW} That's about all ya get in the grocery store.
Interviewer:  Yeah
604:  It's in paper ba- {NS} {NS}
Interviewer:  What did what did feed used to come in?
604:  The feed?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Like we buying cow feed #1 or #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
604:  It was in sacks.
Interviewer:  Wha- what kind of sacks?
604:  Um Well some folks calls 'em croaker sacks.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  I tell ya that's what they call 'em.
Interviewer:  What about the thing that potatoes were shipped in? What was that called?
604:  Crates.
Interviewer:  Any sort or sack or bag?
604:  Hampers? Crates is I to ship 'em #1 ya know? #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  Is what they called 'em {NS} I guess they sent 'em in sacks too they did {X} croaker sacks #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
604:  sacks
Interviewer:  {D:pee}
604:  Feed
Interviewer:  feed sacks. um say if you wanted to to pour something from a big container into something with a narrow mouth like a coke bottle you'd pour it in through a?
604:  Well {X} to strain it or if ya wanna just put it through a little funnel.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and um {NS} say if you were driving horses and wanted to go faster you might hit 'em with a?
604:  {X}.
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What else?
604:  little {X}.
Interviewer:  uh-huh um What if if you were in a buggy? What would you have?
604:  You mean a switch or? something like that.
Interviewer:  Something
604:  A buggy whip.
Interviewer:  okay
604:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 A switch # is different from a whip or?
604:  uh-huh a switch is something you break off of a tree
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  or a branch and uh uh buggy switches they make 'em subtle.
Interviewer:  yeah and um suppose you want to um {NS} to carry corn to the mill to be ground you might carry well you might carry one or two bushels or ya know whatever the amount but would you have a way of referring to that? You say you are going to take a something of of corn to the mill?
604:  A bushel of corn.
Interviewer:  okay um say if you didn't know that it was a bushel you didn't know how much it was or would you have an expression just do you ever say
604:  Just taking the {D:meal} and the corn I guess what you say.
Interviewer:  a {X}?
604:  A {X}.
Interviewer:  {D:milling}?
604:  uh-huh {NS}
Interviewer:  What {NS} was
604:  It wouldn't it wouldn't matter if it was two bushel or one bushel or half a bushel or a {D:peck}.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  A {D:milling} of corn.
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear a turn of corn?
604:  A what?
Interviewer:  turn.
604:  Oh yeah. uh that's all you can carry {NW} {NW} It's a turn.
Interviewer:  uh-huh So that's a a pretty big amount?
604:  Uh-huh that's well that's some folks can take a big turn and some can can't pick up much ya know can't carry it It's a turn.
Interviewer:  You carry it in your arms?
604:  Uh-huh or on your shoulder
Interviewer:  Oh I see. um What would you call the amount of wood that you could carry? all the wood you could carry
604:  A load.
Interviewer:  Okay. of you might say an arm?
604:  Uh-huh arm load.
Interviewer:  uh-huh Would you ever call that a turn of wood?
604:  uh-huh #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  yeah
Interviewer:  How else would you use that word turn?
604:  Oh {NS} It's a turn anything you could pick up just about it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {NS} And suppose someone had a wagon that didn't have a full load of wood you'd say that that the wagon the person just had a
604:  Part of a load.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Would you ever say a change or a jag of wood?
604:  I have never heard it like that.
Interviewer:  And say if if the lamp on the porch wasn't burning you might say you had to screw in a new?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Okay. and you carry the the clothes out to hang on the line you carry them out in a?
604:  Basket.
Interviewer:  and um something that nails use to come in? like a barrel only smaller. {NS}
604:  {X}.
Interviewer:  huh?
604:  To carry clothes in?
Interviewer:  No no that nails used to come in .
604:  Oh nails, {D: tags}.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um thought about a barrel what was what'd you call those those things that run around the barrel to hold the wood in place?
604:  {D:hutch}.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. and um say if you opened up a bottle and did didn't wanna the liquid to spill out you wanted to shut it back up again you'd you'd stick in a?
604:  Cork.
Interviewer:  Okay. Um do you ever see no when you talk about a cork is is there What would you call something like made with glass? Would that be a cork too?
604:  It'd just be a stopper.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  So a cork is {NS} #1 {X} #
604:  #2 is a stopper. #
Interviewer:  uh-huh. and um this is a musical instrument that you'd play like this
604:  harp.
Interviewer:  okay any other name for that?
604:  Well there are French harps and uh Jewish harps and
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  uh what all kind of harps
Interviewer:  What does harp mean then? just something that you
604:  uh huh, Blow. You blow it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  to make music.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. and um the thing that you use to pound nails with would be a?
604:  Hammer.
Interviewer:  And if you had a horse and two wagons and you if you have a wagon and two horses #1 {NW} #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  What do you call the long wooden piece that comes down #1 to a #
604:  #2 the tongue. # #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um if you have a horse pulling a buggy then what do you have?
604:  {X}.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. And um what what are the is the thing that that the traces are hooked onto?
604:  um um hmm
Interviewer:  You know what I mean? That that bar of wood that
604:  I know what I know what it is. I just can't think right now. Hadn't thought of such things {D: a long {X}}.
Interviewer:  Something tree. Is that something?
604:  Uh-huh. {NS} Singletree.
Interviewer:  okay. What if you have um {NS} two horses? {NS} What would the singletrees be hooked on? {NS}
604:  A doubletree.{NS}
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} And um tell me about the the parts of the wheel {NS} starting with the inside you'd have the {X}
604:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Then the spokes would come out and they'd fit into the {NS} what?
604:  The {NS} {NS} The rim of fits into the rim and then they got that steel band around 'em.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And um what are the what goes then across the what are the the wheels fit onto?
604:  Axel.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. and suppose you were going to um chop a log or saw some wood you might use a a frame to to put the wood in it could either be an X shape frame like that you know and you just lay the the log in down there.
604:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  Or it could be a did you ever see one like that?
604:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What was that called?
604:  {NW} I don't know what to call it but I've seen 'em put it up there and uh and saw the wood off at the #1 ends ya know? #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Did you ever see something like that and you'd A shaped and you'd take two of
604:  Oh yeah that's um What you call it a horse?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm and um {NS} You say you straighten your hair using a comb and a? What? {X} If your hair was messed up you'd you'd use a comb and a
604:  And a brush.
Interviewer:  Okay. If you were gonna use {NS} one of these you say you are going to?
604:  Comb ya hair.
Interviewer:  Or {NS}
604:  Brush ya hair.
Interviewer:  Okay. And you'd What would you sharpen a straight razor on?
604:  A {X} they call 'em. It's a little old um some kinda stone.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm What about something made out of leather?
604:  Out of leather?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Razor strap. {NS}
Interviewer:  And what would you put in a pistol?
604:  Bullets. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  Shelled
Interviewer:  uh-huh. Any- anything else you say?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Say maybe um say the shotgun you had shells and in a rifle you'd have
604:  {D:cartridges}
Interviewer:  Okay. Did you ever um what sort of things did did you play on when you were a child? things maybe that
604:  {X} and riding horses {NW}
Interviewer:  what's
604:  and sticks and broomsticks and #1 things like #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  that when we was little{NS}
Interviewer:  what's a um riding rid- what's that you mentioned riding horse?
604:  Riding horse.
Interviewer:  What was that?
604:  It's uh {NS} piece of material laying a {NS} across here and {NS} {X} {NS} over here and it comes across that
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and you'd {NS} go down over here this one comes up and {NS} this one goes down {X}.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. {NS} What if you saw some children playing on that what would you say they were doing?
604:  Just riding horses. Playing riding horses.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and
604:  Did you ever see a flying {X}?
Interviewer:  I am not sure. What does it look like?
604:  It's um {NS} uh got a whole board in it and piece of mate- um {NS} timber
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh {D:hue} off the stump you cut off the tree or stump and then you {D:hue} that off to a place just big enough to fit this hole it's #1 in #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
604:  {NS} piece of timber put this timber over that hole and one gets on this side one on that side and around and around flying {X}.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {NS} Did you ever see {NS} um {NS} anything you take a a board and fix it down at both ends and children would jump on it? or bounce on it?
604:  Uh springboard.
Interviewer:  What what's that like? Is that fixed down at both ends or just
604:  #1 No #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  one end. {NW} They have springboards ya know at uh {D:swimming holes}.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm but do do
604:  They run out {NS} there and {NS} up and down on little bit throws 'em way out.
Interviewer:  Did you ever see anything though that was was fixed down at both ends children would jump on? joggling board or bouncing board or jump board or?
604:  I reckon I seen jump boards I guess {NS} call it {NS} jump up on this and then {NS} over here on that. #1 Is that what your talking #
Interviewer:  #2 How how is it # How is that built?
604:  It it it had it's not it's just laid across this {NS} {D:material}.
Interviewer:  It's sort of like the riding horse now?
604:  It's kinda like {NS} the riding horse but the riding horse got a hole in it here ya know. flying {X} I call it. {X}
Interviewer:  uh-huh {NS}
604:  Then uh
Interviewer:  I see. {NS} Or you might take a a tree limb and tie a long rope to it and #1 put a seat. #
604:  #2 Make a swing. #
Interviewer:  Okay. and uh what did you use to carry coal in?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm You never had coal? What um say you want to to move some bricks or something heavy like that you might put them in something that's got a little wheel on one end and
604:  Wheelbarrow.
Interviewer:  Okay. and um What would you use to sharpen tools on?
604:  Uh grind rock.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about something smaller than that? That you would hold in your hand?
604:  Uh {X}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm any- anything else? Did you ever hear wet?
604:  Wet rocks?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  Yeah. Wet rocks you usually sharpen knives and things on. {NS}
Interviewer:  and um say something was squeaking to lubricate it you'd say you'd have to
604:  Well it'd uh grease it.
Interviewer:  Okay. You said yesterday I {X}
604:  Uh-huh yesterday I greased it.
Interviewer:  okay. and if grease got all over your hand you'd say your hands were all? {NS}
604:  had uh {NS}
Interviewer:  My hands are all? what?
604:  Messed up.
Interviewer:  Okay. #1 You got me. #
604:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  grease on 'em #1 then you'd say #
604:  #2 yeah #
Interviewer:  your hands were all? {X}
604:  Greasy.
Interviewer:  Okay. and um what's those things that you use to burn in lamps?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Did you ever see a a lamp that that was made? A homemade lamp?
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  what what was that like? {NS}
604:  Well uh I don't know is I ever seen a homemade lamp but I seen when you used to use torches.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  splinters and make a light with 'em build it up on something ya know and have a light.
Interviewer:  What's a torch?
604:  It's {D:fat splinters}.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Full a tar ya know. and they'll burn make a pretty light.
Interviewer:  Did you ever see anyone take a rag and a bottle {D:'til} this coal or grease or something like that
604:  You make a light.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  And um inside the tire of the car you have the inner?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  okay.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um if someone had had just built a boat and they were gonna put it in the water for the time you'd say that they were going to?
604:  Uh see if they seal it off good.
Interviewer:  uh-huh. Or they're gonna put it in the water you say they're going to? what the boat?
604:  Come ride in it or whatcha mean?
Interviewer:  {X} wondering if {X} launch
604:  Oh yeah. {NS} launch your boat off.
Interviewer:  uh-huh.
604:  {D: and} then he'd read the bible. {NS} and then he'd a explain it to us.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and have prayer. and then we could just go ahead and play 'til we all got sleepy and tired. well {X} we had to go get our bath. {NW} We had some big old tubs that had water in 'em ya know.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  The girls would go one place and the boys the other. So we all know what to do and we a we never had nobody in our house in the family that ever {X} ever heard {X}. Didn't have no bad words like they do now a lotta folks would say oh my lord ya know and my God look at that.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Oo we never had nothing like that in our home. Everybody I believe was all raised Christian to start with but of course whenever you get older and realize{NS} {NS} you got to give yourself to the Lord well that means a difference. {NS} You belong to a church?
Interviewer:  My parents are Methodist. That's the church that I grew up with.
604:  Was what?
Interviewer:  Methodist.
604:  Uh-huh. {NS} I've been to Methodist churches and hear them preach but I'm not I just don't know nothing about their rules or anything. I'm Baptist.
Interviewer:  That's a pretty big church around here.
604:  Uh-huh. {X} to the Southern convention Baptist.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  our church {X} {NS} and I said there's one thing or two or three things that I would never have to ask the Lord to forgive me for. That's for cursing. I've never had to curse.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  I've never had to use the tobacco nothing like that in my life. and uh uh never had never did drink coffee. Several things like that I just
Interviewer:  You don't
604:  but you gonna pray for them that does ya know. #1 That they get #
Interviewer:  #2 You don't like #
604:  #1 forgiveness. #
Interviewer:  #2 # Drinking coffee?
604:  {NW} Never.
Interviewer:  That's kind of unusual. Why?
604:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  Yeah all my people drinks drinks coffee. I never did like it I just never did drink it. My husband who he said if anything {NS} {X} back coffee's thinking there's some left in the pot.
Interviewer:  {NW}
604:  {NW} Uh not me drink coffee. Never did. {NS}
Interviewer:  Did you have a very large family that you grew up?
604:  Uh-huh there's twelve. Twelve children Mother and Daddy made fourteen a family. but the baby died when he was seven months old. He had uh I believe he said he had whooping cough and developed pneumonia with it and he died. and he died on Christmas. and my Daddy lived to be eighty years old. He died on Christmas and he was two years older than my Mother and she lived to be eighty years old. She died on Christmas. {NW} Christmas always just puts a little sad #1 feeling ya know? #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
604:  #1 In ya #
Interviewer:  #2 I could #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  Especially if there's somebody sick.
Interviewer:  Yeah. {NS} Sounds like your family was just a
604:  There's eight girls and four boys.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  The baby was a boy there's just three boys that lived to be grown. They all dead now but four. I got a sister out of there. She's eighty-eight. and uh I'm seventy-eight. I got a brother that lives right across back over there and he's seventy-six. He's younger than I am. I got a sister that lives in {D: Poplarville} and she's eighty-two.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm {NS} {NS}
604:  Rest of 'em alls gone off.
Interviewer:  How would you
604:  But I don't have a thing to worry about everyone of 'em was raised in a Christian home and they lived Christian life.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  So
Interviewer:  It it sounds to me that that your family was just a I'd say a little above just the
604:  Well I wouldn't say we was above nobody. I say though I'm as good as anybody.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  But I ain't no better than nobody that can get forgiveness.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh Welp I was thinking in terms of ya know if your family could of well you never had to cook on a fireplace #1 or anything #
604:  #2 no #
Interviewer:  sounds sounds like that you know that even though you had a large family #1 that that #
604:  #2 mm-hmm #
Interviewer:  you were always comfortable. {D:would} Was that true did
604:  yeah just {NS} Never did have no trouble I guess was no {NS} to get out and work.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  Make a living and make it honest.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh Was that
604:  Now when we was all kids we'd pick cotton for other people.
Interviewer:  #1 Mm-hmm #
604:  #2 We'd # uh mother could take us children out in the field and pick a bale of cotton a day and that was when they was about eighteen hundred pound to the bale. Course they improved the cotton you know and got to where it's {NS} they call it half and half and um {NS} but uh she could take us {NS} get out in the field and pick a bale of cotton a day for people. {NS} Back then they didn't get much for picking but we could buy our own school books and
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  get us new dress or two and things like that with our cotton picking money. We's just kids.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  and of course we'd I don't know always raised eight or ten bale. {NS}
Interviewer:  Most people in in this community {NS} do work like that and #1 did everyone #
604:  #2 mm-hmm #
Interviewer:  ya know support #1 themselves? #
604:  #2 They did. # {NS} Way back now ya know uh it's all together different. They all work away from home just about it and
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Everybody can hold a job was off somewhere working. Back then we all worked at home.
Interviewer:  Where do most people work nowadays? Is it oil field?
604:  Men works in the oil fields and on these highways and uh in machine shops and in these air condition places and uh making that air condition
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  ya know and uh the women works in factories and hospitals and just something.
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  In factories where they made clothes and things ya know?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  They don't nobody stay home much no more.
Interviewer:  Yeah What kind of um we were talking about boats um what kind of boat would you go fishing on in a small lake? What what that boat be like? What are some different #1 types of boats like? #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 # Ah I just don't know I never rode in a {NS} boat and I don't want one. I I can't swim and I don't wanna get in a boat but uh they have boats for all these little ol' ponds around.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  Folks going to and from they have these electric uh boats and they have the ones that they paddle ya know in the water
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  move around where they please {NS} Call 'em just boats
Interviewer:  #1 yeah #
604:  #2 I call 'em #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 # Most of 'em nows got a big motor hung on to their {NS} {X}
Interviewer:  um The thing that that a women would would wear over a dress in the kitchen you'd call that a?
604:  A apron.
Interviewer:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 okay #
Interviewer:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # and um to sign your name in ink you'd use a?
604:  A pen.
Interviewer:  and um to hold a baby's diaper in place you'd use a? {NS}
604:  uh gotta have a bag now and not a bag but a uh one of these old plastic things you put 'em in when you take 'em off of 'em wet ya know {X} and then carry 'em to the washing machine.
Interviewer:  but um when you're #1 putting #
604:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  putting the diaper on the baby
604:  oh
Interviewer:  You fasten it together with a
604:  pins
Interviewer:  okay
604:  Safety pins.
Interviewer:  and um soup that you buy usually comes in a can made out of
604:  soup
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  tin
Interviewer:  okay and a dime is worth
604:  A dime is worth ten cents.
Interviewer:  #1 Okay #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 and um #
604:  #2 {NW} # supposed to be but it don't go nowhere no more #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # What um what would a man wear to church on Sunday?
604:  Well he's supposed to wear a suit if he wants to dress up.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  in the summertime wear a shirt and pants #1 I guess #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
604:  what ya call it
Interviewer:  What um any other name for pants?
604:  Britches.
Interviewer:  Okay #1 Does that #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  that mean the same thing?
604:  Huh?
Interviewer:  Does that mean the same thing?
604:  Ya huh.
Interviewer:  What um what would a man say if he were working out in in round the barn?
604:  Overalls.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. and um you mentioned a suit um a suit would consist of a what pants and then the
604:  Coat
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  Shirt a tie
Interviewer:  What about a long time ago they used to also wear a closed sleeveless? thing that they'd put on on over their shirt just before they put their coat on?
604:  Oh a jacket.
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  {NW} Oh that's been so long {X}
Interviewer:  {NW}
604:  wearing them things
Interviewer:  Yeah say um that coat won't fit this year but last year it what perfectly?
604:  Now say it again.
Interviewer:  I said that coat won't fit me this year but last year it
604:  Oh well just got to large or you fell off
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  lost weight #1 gained weight #
Interviewer:  #2 so you say #
604:  lost weight
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  if it don't fit.
Interviewer:  But you say last year it it what perfectly? last year it how'd you say that?
604:  Woulda had the suit that just fit him fine. I guess I would say {NW} I don't know what you would say.
Interviewer:  and say if if a man had an important interview and his clothes weren't in very good shape you'd say he'd have to go out and buy a?
604:  A suit.
Interviewer:  Okay and and it wouldn't be old it would be a? #1 brand #
604:  #2 new one #
Interviewer:  Huh?
604:  A new one.
Interviewer:  A new what?
604:  Suit.
Interviewer:  {X} You said he he has to go out and a brand
604:  new suit.
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 and um # Say if you stuff a lot of things in your pockets it makes them?
604:  Oh my goodness just ruins your shape and figure. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  {NW} makes it look awful.
Interviewer:  But what do you say it does to the pockets it makes them?
604:  Bulge out.
Interviewer:  okay and you say well that shirt used to fit me 'til I washed it then it?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  or another word you might use? I washed it and it?
604:  Faded out.
Interviewer:  but a word meaning drawed up?
604:  Drawed up oh it just got too little for me.
Interviewer:  uh-huh Did you say it {X} or {X} or shrink?
604:  Shrinked?
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  {NW} Yeah some kind of material is like that. It will shrink.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh So you'd say I washed
604:  if you especially if you put it in hot water
Interviewer:  uh-huh So you say I washed it and it?
604:  shrink
Interviewer:  and um say seems like every shirt I wash recently has
604:  shrunk
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um if a if a women likes to put on good clothes and spend a lot of time in front of the mirror you'd say she likes to?
604:  Primp
Interviewer:  Would you say that about a man?
604:  Yeah They was some of 'em that primped like women do.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh {NS} and uh what did you use to carry coins in?
604:  Purse I guess.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay. and um what's something that a a women might wear around her wrist? Bracelet or uh Mm-kay. {NS} and uh what did men used to wear to hold their pants?
604:  Suspenders
Interviewer:  Any other name for that?
604:  galluses
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um what about something that you'd hold over you when it rains?
604:  Umbrella
Interviewer:  Is there any other name for that?
604:  Parasol
Interviewer:  Is is that the same thing?
604:  Uh-huh parasol and umbrella
Interviewer:  and um what do people call it now?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Which which word would you be more likely to use that?
604:  Parasol
Interviewer:  okay and um the last thing that you put on the bed when you make it up?
604:  Spread
Interviewer:  #1 What's #
604:  #2 bedspread #
Interviewer:  Uh-huh Do you remember something that people used to make?
604:  On the beds?
Interviewer:  that's a a bedspread sort of thing that people would would sew together by #1 hand? #
604:  #2 quilts #
Interviewer:  What's that like huh? Are there different types of quilts?
604:  Lotta different types of quilts.
Interviewer:  What are some of the types?
604:  Well there's some fancy ones and some that's just made out of anything {X}.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  um I got some I'd like to show you before you leave. Some I made.
Interviewer:  I'd like to see them.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  Did do you still make them much?
604:  No I hadn't made none {X}. for {X} years. I used to makes lots of 'em you that's the way we mostly paid for our church over here. We made quilts and sold 'em.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  paid for the church. paid a lot on it
Interviewer:  Are there different ways to make 'em like um say
604:  You can make 'em on machinery or sew 'em with your fingers.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  We made 'em needle and thread
Interviewer:  Do you ever see quilts that are sort of tied together? instead of There are all these {X}
604:  I never have seen those.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  Looks like that.
Interviewer:  Do you ever um hear of a county?
604:  Counter?
Interviewer:  {X} thing or counterfeit?
604:  Counterpane? That's a bedspread.
Interviewer:  What's What is that like? Is that something that?
604:  A counterpane?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  Well it's just a a bedspread like they used to make long time ago.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  They don't make 'em no more they make bedspreads now. #1 They used #
Interviewer:  #2 Yeah #
604:  to make counterpanes.
Interviewer:  And um up at the head of the bed you put your head on a?
604:  Pillow
Interviewer:  Do you remember that looks longer than a pillow?
604:  Uh-huh boat. boaster?
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What was that like?
604:  It was just a long pillow it went all the way across.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh and um {NS} say if you had a a lot of company over and didn't have enough beds for the children you might make a
604:  pallet
Interviewer:  okay and um what kinds of lands land did you have on on a farm?
604:  Land?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm what different types?
604:  Well we have a something they call it too stiff to plant some things in and some that's sandy
Interviewer:  mm-hmm what do you mean too stiff?
604:  Well it it's where the water all stand a good long time and make it hard when it dries out.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh sandy land ya know you can always work that it's not too hard
Interviewer:  What do you call land that that's real good for for planting?
604:  Well it's been highly fertilized or {NS} it's uh uh good soil like um
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Do you ever hear low?
604:  a what?
Interviewer:  Low kind of soil
604:  Oh yeah I've heared that that's what I call sandy land. {NW}
Interviewer:  But what's that?
604:  Sandy land?
Interviewer:  I mean what what do you call sandy land?
604:  That's what I call it. Sandy land. I don't call it this like you called it. #1 They just #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # What about um flat low land a- along the #1 street? #
604:  #2 Ya that's # what I call stiff.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {NS} um you call
604:  It's uh some ya know there's some clay and there's some uh it's um I call it crawfishing. It's low and they uh It's stiff no crawfish will mate. {NS} Great big ol' {NS} {X} Stiff land I guess you'd call it.
Interviewer:  Did you ever speak to bottom land or #1 low land or #
604:  #2 uh-huh # Bottom land's that kinda stiff low land.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Unless it's got sand washed in it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about um a field that might not be good for anything besides raising grass or clove or {X}?
604:  It may fit for nothing but pasture.
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  And um what about land that's got water standing in it most of the time?
604:  Drowned out ya crop.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Would you call that anything we- well you mentioned a crawfishy land.
604:  uh-huh it's kind of crawfishy.
Interviewer:  Any- anything else?
604:  Stiff I guess you would call it. Stiff land.
Interviewer:  What about swamp or marsh or?
604:  Swampy land's where it's uh ya know where the trees used to grow thick. water run through it
Interviewer:  mm
604:  things like that marshy land is where they been old pondy places and it's dried away it's down in the marsh.
Interviewer:  Oh I see. um what what's marsh is that
604:  It's uh {NS} well it had been underwater in time.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  But it's um maybe been ditched off or something ya know and then that's marshy land left down there.
Interviewer:  What do you mean ditched off?
604:  Ya know {X} a place where the water to run out of it.
Interviewer:  What do you say when you that you're doing when you did that?
604:  Ditching it?
Interviewer:  uh-huh you you say #1 you wanted #
604:  #2 you just # cut a ditch down there for the water to run off.
Interviewer:  uh-huh Would you say drain or drain?
604:  Well yeah that's what it does when ya cut a ditch it drains out.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. and um what about something say say if you had a real heavy rain and the the rain it the water cut
604:  The ground up.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh
604:  It's uh washed away.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What if it it continues to do that for a long time and you have a
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. what's is a gully something very big?
604:  Well it'd be small or big.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What about something along the the side of a a road for
604:  ditches
Interviewer:  Okay and um Do you know anything about um well say um a a small rising land you'd call a?
604:  A hill.
Interviewer:  Okay. and um any other names for for types of hills or?
604:  It's a small hill that's little hill over there and the big hill and the uh then it gets on up to where it's a mountain and it's {NW} and it gets back down in the flat to where it's a water stay in there.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm you say to open a door you'd take hold of the door
604:  knob?
Interviewer:  Do you ever use that word knob talking about land? knob or know or?
604:  Oh yeah well that we never did use but then I know what you mean.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and um when you talk about a mountain the rocky side of the mountain it drops off real sharp like
604:  paved off like
Interviewer:  yeah say somebody jumped over the
604:  oh bluff the mountain.
Interviewer:  Okay what what about another word for that? say if it's a bluff can just go straight down ya know?
604:  yeah
Interviewer:  if it come hangs over sort of and {X} a cliff?
604:  A cliff? #1 yeah #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  oh yeah.
Interviewer:  and several of those would be several?
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Several what?
604:  Uh going up the cliff to that top of the mountain.
Interviewer:  uh-huh. and um a place where boats stop {NS} freights are unloaded
604:  for freights unloaded?
Interviewer:  uh-huh? Well where boats stop
604:  Oh boats. Down at the harbor or anchor or what
Interviewer:  What's what's a harbor?
604:  It's over there where they uh boats all parks.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  okay And um what kinds of roads do you have around here?
604:  Roads?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  We have um paved roads and we have uh uh gravel roads and we have dirt roads. {NS} That's about it.
Interviewer:  What would you call a um
604:  Black top roads.
Interviewer:  Black top roads? What's what's that made with?
604:  Uh asphalt.
Interviewer:  mm-kay and um what about that black sticky stuff that has a pretty strong smell?
604:  Well concrete uh
Interviewer:  It's kind of like asphalt I guess.
604:  yeah
Interviewer:  or something that maybe that you you use to put on on animals say if if you horse or something had a cut on 'em you'd put some of this black stuff on call that?
604:  {NW} {NW} Can't think. What is it?
Interviewer:  {X} tar.
604:  What tar?
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Oh yeah.
Interviewer:  Do they use that in in roads?
604:  Think they do.
Interviewer:  What um What'd you call a little road that goes off the main road?
604:  A little dirt road.
Interviewer:  Okay. and um suppose you came well to to the road that that turns off of the public road and then goes down to a man's house?
604:  Gravel road.
Interviewer:  okay the
604:  or concrete.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh but the the turns off the the road that turns off the the main road and leads to a person's house
604:  I just call it a road. {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and um what if if a road has um trees on both sides of it?
604:  Uh-huh They all do. {NW} {X} part of the country
Interviewer:  yeah Would ya have a special name for a road that's that's so small that uh just one car could go on it at a time?
604:  Just near about a path huh.
Interviewer:  okay and um say a road from um from the house to the barn just big enough to drive drive ya truck over {NS}
604:  I don't know we don't have one we just got the whole yard out there.
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and something along the side of the street for people to walk on?
604:  Sidewalk
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if you were walking along the road and an animal jumped out and and scared you, you might pick up a?
604:  Rock
Interviewer:  Okay you say I picked up the rock and I
604:  Chunk it
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  Hit him or something.
Interviewer:  and um say if you went to someone's house and knock on the door and no one answered you'd say well I guess they're not
604:  Not home.
Interviewer:  Okay and say someone came to to um visit say a man's wife and he he met the person out in the yard he might tell her um well she's what the house? she's
604:  She's in the house.
Interviewer:  Okay or she's what the kitchen making some cookies
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  She's
604:  What all ya might tell if #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  Tell him where she's at #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 okay # and um talking about coffee um you say some people
604:  Likes coffee and some don't.
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  I don't. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 and um #
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  talk about putting milk in your coffee then you say some #1 people #
604:  #2 {X} # Some folks puts milk in it and some put sugar and um some don't put any.
Interviewer:  What do you call it when they don't put anything in it?
604:  Drink it black.
Interviewer:  Okay and um you say some people will eat cornflakes dry but most people might like them
604:  Milk on 'em.
Interviewer:  Huh?
604:  Milk and sugar on 'em.
Interviewer:  Okay so most people like cornflakes how?
604:  With milk and sugar.
Interviewer:  okay and um say if you've gone to town and and happen to see a friend of yours that you hadn't counted on seeing you say well this morning I just have to run?
604:  into {X} or somebody like that. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 okay #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # and um if a child's given the same that her mother has you say they named the child
604:  After its mother.
Interviewer:  okay and um talking about kinds of animals now {NS} the kind of animal that that barks
604:  Dog
Interviewer:  Okay and if you wanted your dog to attack another dog what would you say? {NW} Sic 'em {X} okay Would you whistle something to him?
604:  Uh-huh Just whistle to him or say go get him.
Interviewer:  uh-huh and um What different types of dogs are there?
604:  Oh I don't know. They just all kind of hounds.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  What do you mean a hound? What's a hound?
604:  It's a just an ol' dog. That's a dog. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 {NW} #
604:  They're bulldogs and shepherds and hounds and uh all kind.
Interviewer:  What would what about those real #1 small things? #
604:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 # uh beagles
Interviewer:  But those those real real small noisy dogs that
604:  #1 oh #
Interviewer:  #2 people # keep in their houses.
604:  Oh I know. uh I just call 'em dogs I just can't stand a dog in the house. No I wouldn't {X} {X} my friend to come bring a dog. Not that has to get in my house.
Interviewer:  Yeah
604:  I don't have dogs and cats in the house. {NW}
Interviewer:  {X} Thanks to me our dogs are practically part of the family.
604:  {NW} I know some that'll just pick up little dog. {X} I can't stand that. {X} get on my bed like does some folks I'd be washing everyday.
Interviewer:  {NW}
604:  Everyday I couldn't stand that. and I change if dog get up on me I could change my clothes right then. Oo I can't stand dogs. {NW}
Interviewer:  Well well you just hadn't met my dog.
604:  uh-uh
Interviewer:  Um what about a a little um mixed breed dog you don't know what kind he is Would you have a name for that? Well what about a a
604:  {X} dogs
Interviewer:  A worthless dog?
604:  He ain't no good.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Just no count for nothing.
Interviewer:  okay and say if you had a real mean dog you might say um
604:  It bites you. {NS}
Interviewer:  and you say yesterday he
604:  Bit somebody.
Interviewer:  okay say that person had to go to the doctor after he got
604:  Bit
Interviewer:  would you ever um say dog bit
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Someone got dog bit?
604:  Got dog bit.
Interviewer:  uh-huh and um the kind of in a herd of cattle what do you call the male?
604:  Bulls
Interviewer:  okay was that word nice to use when you were growing up?
604:  Uh-uh {NW} We called 'em magnolias. I don't know what made us {X} Daddy just got us to called 'em that.
Interviewer:  Magnolia?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  For the bull?
604:  uh-huh We hear no magnolia {X} You know we can hear {X}.
Interviewer:  Was that um now magnolia was that a name for one particular bull or?
604:  No uh-uh just always the bull. We called them magnolias. You know there are magnolia trees and
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  {X} and things.
Interviewer:  How did you ever get that name?
604:  I don't know. That's why I say I guess me mother and daddy just didn't wanna us say bull ya know?
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  and that just taught us that as magnolia.
Interviewer:  Was that just something that that your family calls 'em #1 or #
604:  #2 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 # {X}
Interviewer:  That's unusual I never heard that before.
604:  {NW} They didn't let us say things that was embarrassing to 'em ya know?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm You know what other people called it? who They didn't wanna say bull but
604:  #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 They didn't say #
604:  they just called bull {X} {X}
Interviewer:  what um What about the the animals that um that that you'd plow with might be?
604:  Horses
Interviewer:  or
604:  mules or
Interviewer:  okay and if you had two of those hitched together
604:  It's a {X}.
Interviewer:  okay and um a little cow when it's first born is called a?
604:  calf
Interviewer:  and the the female's called a?
604:  calf
Interviewer:  okay and the male?
604:  calf Both calves.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  When they come here.
Interviewer:  When they what?
604:  When they first come here they're
Interviewer:  #1 calves #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  got to grow into being a bull or a heifer.
Interviewer:  {NW} Okay and um If you had a cow that was gonna have a calf you'd say your cow was going to? what?
604:  uh bring a calf or {X} She's springing like she's gonna bring a calf
Interviewer:  #1 ya know #
Interviewer:  #2 okay #
604:  she's showing a
Interviewer:  and um the thing um talking about horses now the females called a
604:  A horse and uh the other is called a mare.
Interviewer:  uh-huh The male is called a horse?
604:  Horse.
Interviewer:  Any other names for him?
604:  Stud.
Interviewer:  Was was that word nice to use or?
604:  uh-uh {NW} We just called 'em horses.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  We didn't say stud.
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  but some folks did.
Interviewer:  Say if if you were riding a horse and you couldn't stay on you say you fell
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  what the horse?
604:  Fell off the horse.
Interviewer:  Okay say a child went to sleep in bed woke up found himself on the floor in the morning say I guess I must have
604:  I rolled off the bed.
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um {NS} {NS} the things that you put on a horse's feet
604:  shoes
Interviewer:  Okay or the full name of that {NS} is Did did you know a game that that they'd play with those?
604:  Mm-hmm play with horseshoes.
Interviewer:  uh-huh did you ever see instead of using horseshoes um that they'd use rings?
604:  No I don't {X} ever did.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  I seen 'em play dollar with dollars ya know and then I play seen 'em play with horseshoe.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Bring the thing that ya stick up out there bring it with horseshoes.
Interviewer:  I see and um parts of the horse's feet that ya put the shoes onto would be called a
604:  hoof
Interviewer:  and in all a a horse would have
604:  hooves
Interviewer:  huh
604:  All horses would have hooves.
Interviewer:  Okay and um
604:  Mules and horses and jennies and jacks and {NW}
Interviewer:  You have some some jennies or jacks around here don't you?
604:  {X} the two out there.
Interviewer:  What do you use 'em for?
604:  They plow. They don't {X} here. They they plow their gardens with 'em.
Interviewer:  Why do they use those?
604:  They good. They plow just like a plow horse and they don't take a lotta room to turn 'em around. #1 ya know #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  in the garden.
Interviewer:  I thought they were pretty hard to to get them to do anything.
604:  {NW} I don't know but that's what they use 'em for.
Interviewer:  uh-huh Did you ever have sheep?
604:  Uh-uh
Interviewer:  Do you know what people do have sheep for?
604:  Uh-huh the wool.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  and a lots of folks eats lamb.
Interviewer:  I don't see how people could do that.
604:  Huh?
Interviewer:  I don't see how they could do that.
604:  I don't eat it. Don't want me no lamb.
Interviewer:  um
604:  I've heared a lamb chops and lamb legs and {NW}
Interviewer:  {NW}
604:  and I don't want it. and I don't want no goat either.
Interviewer:  You never ate goats?
604:  uh-uh
Interviewer:  Even after you raised them?
604:  My Daddy had some one time he didn't keep 'em long but he had some he never eat 'em.
Interviewer:  {NW}
604:  We would.
Interviewer:  What do you call the the female sheep?
604:  Uh {X}
Interviewer:  mm-kay and what about the male?
604:  No {X} no buck.
Interviewer:  mm-kay Was that word nice to use?
604:  I think so.
Interviewer:  You never really talked about #1 sheep much I don't get? #
604:  #2 uh-uh # We didn't have no trouble with sheep. {NW}
Interviewer:  um talking bout hogs uh when it's first born it's called a?
604:  pig
Interviewer:  and then when it gets older it's a
604:  shoat
Interviewer:  bout how how big does it have to be to be a shoat?
604:  A well about time it weans.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and um
604:  shoats
Interviewer:  Then after that the female's called a?
604:  A gilt. and a an old sow
Interviewer:  #1 and #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  {X} little boy hog. {NS} boar
Interviewer:  uh-huh Was that word boar not nice to use?
604:  No we didn't use it. {X}
Interviewer:  People use that much now?
604:  I think so they you know then say anything now.
Interviewer:  Yeah
604:  Boo hoo.
Interviewer:  {NW} Say if if ya had a pig that you didn't you didn't want to grow up to be a boar what would you say you were gonna do to him?
604:  Trim him.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay Would you use that same word talking about a horse?
604:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What about a tom cat?
604:  Yeah I guess so.
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if um after he'd been trimmed then he'd be a?
604:  Just a a horse.
Interviewer:  We're talking bout the
604:  Oh uh #1 he'd be a #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  okay and um the stiff hairs that a hog has on its back
604:  bristles
Interviewer:  Okay and those long teeth
604:  um {NS} it's got hmm tusks.
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um Do you have any names for a hog that's grown up wild?
604:  Wild hog.
Interviewer:  uh-huh did anything else? {X} or ridge runner?
604:  Yeah {X} hog {X} rooter or anything you want to call it it's out in the woods.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm #1 um #
604:  #2 I # would just call it a wild hog. {NW}
Interviewer:  The noise that that a cat makes when it's being weaned you'd say the cat began to?
604:  Wean the calves.
Interviewer:  uh-huh what the noise that a cat makes?
604:  They {X}.
Interviewer:  Okay
604:  {X} and {X} and
Interviewer:  What are So are these all different noises?
604:  uh-uh {X}
Interviewer:  uh-huh What about the noise that a cow makes at feeding time?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  mm-kay and the noise that a horse makes?
604:  He'll uh whicker.
Interviewer:  Okay A hen on a nest of eggs would be called a
604:  sitting hen.
Interviewer:  and where do you keep your hens? Well if you had place built for 'em.
604:  In a chicken house.
Interviewer:  mm-kay What about a place just for the mother hen and and the chicks?
604:  A coop.
Interviewer:  What did that look like?
604:  Well different people makes different looking ones.
Interviewer:  #1 mm-hmm #
604:  #2 {NW} # {NW} Oh you can uh make you a pen {X} Put 'em in it. Some of 'em uh has ends to 'em like cat strips across here.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  The biggest can get out and no hen's gonna stay in there #1 to let #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
604:  babies is big enough to follow ya know and then let 'em go.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and you know when you're eating chicken that the bone this like this
604:  mm-hmm #1 Fortune bone #
Interviewer:  #2 What's that? # huh?
604:  Pulley bone.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Fortune bone or what you wanna #1 call it #
Interviewer:  #2 fortune bone? #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 #
604:  Some folks calls it fortune bone I always call it pulley bone.
Interviewer:  uh-huh Are there why is called fortune bone?
604:  Oh you know they used to a long time ago claim that if you pull a fortune bone the one got the short side
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  If you stick it up over the door if it was a girl got it the first boy comes under that'd be ya husband. {X} {NW} If it was a girl that'd be ya wife if it was a boy ya know put it up there #1 {X} #
Interviewer:  #2 yeah #
604:  {X} {X} Wasn't nothing to it.
Interviewer:  Did they um
604:  They just called it fortune bones.
Interviewer:  uh-huh Did they call that short short piece anything? That they put up over the door?
604:  No {D: nots} I know of.
Interviewer:  okay and um the inside parts of a pig or a calf that you eat Was do you have just a general name for for them or?
604:  For the cows?
Interviewer:  #1 the the inside #
604:  #2 the beef cow #
Interviewer:  Yeah the the inside parts that you eat.
604:  Such as a liver?
Interviewer:  mm-hmm what else?
604:  Uh that's about all I ever ate and I don't care for that. {X} They have chitlins out of hogs and I
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  don't like that.
Interviewer:  Wha- what's a chitlins?
604:  It's the guts.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  {NW} and uh people eats uh {X} and they call it {X}.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and they eat uh uh {X} and call it {X} uh yeah liver and {X} and
Interviewer:  #1 Is this this is all #
604:  #2 {X} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 # {X} it's in That's uh I call it a spleen. {NW}
Interviewer:  You talking about a hog or
604:  No #1 cat #
Interviewer:  #2 cat # cat you eat the the liver and {X} in a cow?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  I don't but ya know people does they sell #1 it #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  at the market. Well I guess I just kind cruise about my evening
Interviewer:  {NW} what um Do you ever see a hog butchered?
604:  Oo yeah
Interviewer:  how how would they do that?
604:  They'd shoot it or knock it in the head and then they stick it with a knife in its throat and let it bleed all it would.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then uh put the ones it kills usually knows where to hit the right vein to let the blood all come out hog
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then they take it and put it in a barrel of water and scald it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  scape the hair all off of it then hang it up and cut the {NS} intestines out.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What what meat would you have? How would you divide that up?
604:  Well you cut the hog in two and uh you get the backbone out
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then ya take the shoulders off and then the hands off and It's then you have the middlings they called 'em.
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  That's those whole side of the hog.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  That they make bacon out of.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm
604:  and uh Some folks take a a leaves the ribs in it and some folks takes the ribs out.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Do you um when you talk about bacon or um Well what are you talking about exactly? Are you talking about something that's already been sliced or?
604:  We didn't have it sliced. No you don't have it. the whole side You can have it uh cured
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and then you'd have it cut just as much as you want.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Sliced into bacon. {NS}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {NS} {NS} what um {NS} What do you call the outside part that edge that
604:  skin
Interviewer:  okay and um {NS} what kind of of meat might you use to boil with greens?
604:  bacon
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What if it's got more fat to it than bacon does?
604:  uh-huh Well if it's got more fat than it has {X} well that's just just boil that in vegetables to season it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm What do you call that?
604:  I call it bacon.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm I'm thinking of the- there are other kinds of things that you might use like um fat salt pork or something
604:  Yeah well it's all uh bacon. Salt pork is bacon
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  and uh dried pork is bacon. {NW} and uh fats is just what ya cook out {X} uh cracklins
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and uh get the fat out of it and that makes grease.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Would you ever talk about um side meat or salt belly or fat backs?
604:  Yeah they called it all that I just called all bacon that's all the same piece.
Interviewer:  uh-huh what what are those other words that that people use for
604:  bacon?
Interviewer:  Yeah besides bacon what else are they called?
604:  bellies I don't know they call it that or not.
Interviewer:  uh-huh um then you might take um take the trimmings and and slice 'em up and grind 'em and season it and
604:  Make sauces.
Interviewer:  okay and uh what do you call the man that sells the meat?
604:  uh man that works in the market? #1 is um #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
604:  I don't know. Works at the slaughter house uh
Interviewer:  What would you call a man that slaughters the meat?
604:  Butcher I guess. {NS}
Interviewer:  and if meat's been kept too long you say that the meat is
604:  rancid
Interviewer:  okay or but the meat has
604:  {X} spoiled
Interviewer:  okay and What can you make with the meat from the hog's head?
604:  Uh hog head {X} #1 cheese #
Interviewer:  #2 mm-hmm #
604:  Some folks called it hog head cheese and some calls it {X}.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm Is there anything made by cooking and grinding up the liver?
604:  I don't know unless it's gravy.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Do you ever hear of anything being made out of the blood?
604:  bladder
Interviewer:  The blood
604:  Oh no never have
Interviewer:  What about um did you ever hear of scrapple or {X} or anything like that? um and suppose you kept butter too long and it didn't taste right
604:  It would be rancid.
Interviewer:  okay and um think sour milk that you keep you call that?
604:  claver or buttermilk
Interviewer:  okay is um talking about the claver is there anything that you make from that?
604:  Yeah you make bread with it.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Any kind of cheese or something like that?
604:  Yeah yeah you'd make cheese too.
Interviewer:  What kind of cheese?
604:  I don't know what you called it. We used to know but uh
Interviewer:  say um something the first thing you have to do after milking is you have to
604:  strain the milk
Interviewer:  okay and um something baked in a deep dish it's sort of like a a pie well it's got several layers of prune and dough
604:  pies
Interviewer:  uh-huh like you might put down a a layer of dough and then put down some apples and then keep on going
604:  Make apple pie or
Interviewer:  mm-kay and um {NS} What kind of um bread are there?
604:  bread?
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  {NW} Well that's kinda
Interviewer:  What are some kinds that you remember making? for your parents
604:  Corn bread and biscuit bread and uh light bread shortening bread
Interviewer:  What's what's light bread?
604:  light bread loaf bread
Interviewer:  uh-huh What do you put in it to make it rise?
604:  Oh ya have to have yeast.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm um what what else is made out of cornmeal besides cornbread?
604:  What ya mean dressing and
Interviewer:  just
604:  chicken or turkey or #1 something #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh # but say something that you might um "O" shape in your head like
604:  Oh uh ho cakes
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW} Bake ho cakes
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  I've heared of that.
Interviewer:  How is that made do you remember?
Interviewer:  {X} they were made from um cornmeal? What what might you make um out of cornmeal to to have with fish?
604:  Um What ya call 'em? {NW} I guess I ain't got no sense. Uh What ya call them round things? {NS} {X}
Interviewer:  {X}
604:  Hush puppies.
Interviewer:  Okay. That that's what what you'd have with the little things?
604:  Uh-huh hush puppies. Eat with fried fish.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear of corn dodgers?
604:  {NS} Yeah I've heared folks call 'em corn dodgers that's just bread. Cornbread's all I ever knowed it #1 to be. #
Interviewer:  #2 uh-huh #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # Um What about something you'd take use cornmeal and salt and water? then boil it and then
604:  Oh I don't know.
Interviewer:  Makes something sort of soggy that you you could eat with a spoon or something.
604:  Grits? No, grits don't have eggs in it. Um Hush puppies? What do you call that?
Interviewer:  Do you ever heard of mush?
604:  Mush yeah I've heared that I never did try cooking mush.
Interviewer:  uh-huh um you say there there are two kinds of bread the homemade bread then the kind you buy at the store called?
604:  It's uh loaf bread that you would get from the store. and homemade bread's biscuit.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay.
604:  {X} you can make uh lot of bread from the at home is about as good as you can buy it already cooked.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm um what's fried in deep fat with a hole in the center?
604:  Oh hmm Some kind a cornbread too I don't
Interviewer:  um not made out of um corn- cornmeal
604:  Oh you talking about doughnuts?
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um what about something that you'd make up a batter of and and fry three or four of these at a time?
604:  Uh pancakes?
Interviewer:  Mm-kay is there any other name for that?
604:  uh-huh flitters. #1 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #2 Okay # and um say um the the inside part of the egg it's called a?
604:  Yolk.
Interviewer:  Okay what what color is that?
604:  Yellow or white. Which ones the yolk?
Interviewer:  Which how how do you usually speak speak of the
604:  I just break egg and my bread stir it up when I'm making cornbread.
Interviewer:  okay and um if you cook 'em in hot water what do you call 'em?
604:  Oh I don't know. Dumplings.
Interviewer:  Yup eggs though you cook them in hot water.
604:  Oh boiled eggs.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay and what about if you crack 'em and let 'em fall out of the shells in the hot water? Did you ever make anything like that? um and um say if it was time to feed the stock and do your chores you'd say that it was?
604:  Getting late we'd better get out there and get through it. {NW} Time to feed the hogs time to feed the cows. It's milking time or something like that.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  What else?
Interviewer:  How would you call now now how would you call cows to get 'em in out of the pastures?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Would you go ahead and do that?
604:  I goes oh come on
Interviewer:  Go ahead and do it like you're calling them.
604:  Oh {NW} {NW} {NW}
Interviewer:  okay #1 and um #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  #1 #
604:  #2 #
Interviewer:  What do you say to make 'em stand still so you can milk 'em?
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Mm-kay
604:  Back your foot. {NW}
Interviewer:  You tell 'em back your foot?
604:  uh-huh {C: laughing}
Interviewer:  Do you do you hit 'em then on the #1 leg? #
604:  #2 Just # {NS} just push ya hand again and say back foot and they'll put it back
Interviewer:  and uh how do you call a cow?
604:  Well {X} if you used to talking to it you call her by her name She'll come.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm a calf you mean?
604:  Oh calf I call them {D: soo cow soo cow soo cow}
Interviewer:  Okay {C: laughing} um and what do you say to a mule or horse to make them turn left and right?
604:  Gee and haw.
Interviewer:  Which is which?
604:  Gee is to the left to the right and haw's to the left.
Interviewer:  mm-kay and how do you call horses?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Did you ever hear anyone call 'em?
604:  I've heared 'em holler for 'em somewhere another but I don't remember what how they'd call them
Interviewer:  You ever heard coke or {X} or
604:  Yeah I've heared folks say coke coke coke getting there horses to come
Interviewer:  uh-huh What would you say to a horse to to get 'em started?
604:  Get up
Interviewer:  okay and what if he's moving and you want him to go faster?
604:  Get up
Interviewer:  mm-kay and how do you stop 'em
604:  Whoa
Interviewer:  and um to back them into a buggy?
604:  Just take 'em by the bits and back 'em in {NW} {NW} back 'em in between the {X}
Interviewer:  Is there anything you say to 'em?
604:  Mm-hmm back up
Interviewer:  mm-kay and how do you call a hog?
604:  Pig
Interviewer:  mm-kay and um could you do that like like you're doing one like you're calling him
604:  Pig pig pig {NW}
Interviewer:  #1 and um #
604:  #2 {NW} #
Interviewer:  What about sheep?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  you never had
604:  uh-uh never had no
Interviewer:  What about chickens?
604:  Call chickens {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Okay and um say if you wanna get the horses ready to go somewhere Go saddle him up or go ride Go put the {X} on him and bring him in let's harness him up okay and um when you're riding a horse you guide him with the
604:  uh the reins
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  to ride
Interviewer:  and your your feet are in the
604:  stirrup
Interviewer:  and um {NS} When you're plowing the the trench sort of thing that the plow cuts is called the what
604:  plow
Interviewer:  yeah but the thing that the plow cuts
604:  Oh the handles to the {X}
Interviewer:  yeah but but in the ground the
604:  #1 oh #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} #
604:  #1 #
Interviewer:  #2 # the little trench or ditch sort of thing
604:  off road i call it little uh plows the plows is called um scooter plows
Interviewer:  but that the thing that it it um it digs out this trench you don't call it a trench you call it a
604:  oh You don't call it a road huh?
Interviewer:  think about fur
604:  Oh they gotta foot to put the plow on.
Interviewer:  uh-huh I was thinking about furrow
604:  Furs is
Interviewer:  furrow
604:  oh fur yeah you plow fur
Interviewer:  uh-huh what what is a fur exactly? how would you describe
604:  Well um it's kinda you if you're plowing your garden you'll plow down this side the row and throw the fur up to the {X} to the vegetable whatever you want and then you come back the other side throw fur from that side and that covers it all up except the vegetable it's sticking out at ya
Interviewer:  mm I see {NS} and uh when you're plowing with two horses what do you call the one that walks in the furrow?
604:  Two horses
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Never plowed two {NW} I never had plowed two. but uh what you'd call it
Interviewer:  Seeing that lead horse or horse or line horse or something like that
604:  I don't know. I don't know nothing about plowing. I never plowed. {NW}
Interviewer:  you say I don't know exactly how far away it is but it's just a a little
604:  on the horse?
Interviewer:  no say talking about distance say if I ask you how far it is to Baxterville you might say well it's just a little
604:  uh-huh little piece over there
Interviewer:  okay and um say if you'd been taking a trip somewhere and you stopped for lunch you might tell others now we can't stay here long because we still have a
604:  good long ways to go
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and um if something was real common and you didn't have to look for it in a special place you'd say oh you can find that just about
604:  anywhere
Interviewer:  and if someone slipped and fell this way you'd say fell over
604:  oh fell backwards
Interviewer:  this way would be
604:  front
Interviewer:  or not backward
604:  forwards forwards
Interviewer:  okay and um {NS} say if you got rid of all the the brush and trees on your land you say you
604:  got it cleared
Interviewer:  okay and um weed is tied up into a
604:  Bundle
Interviewer:  okay and then the bundles are piled up into a
604:  I never been in a whet field wheat field in my life but I guess they carry it to the mill.
Interviewer:  uh-huh um what {X} what do you have to do with those to separate the grain from the rest of it? You have to thresh it. okay and um say you might take a milk or cream and mix that with sugar and {X} and pour it over pie You'd call that a
604:  {D:filler}
Interviewer:  huh
604:  a filler
Interviewer:  okay but um you know you might just take some sweet liquid and pour it over pudding or pie you don't do that
604:  {X} {X}
Interviewer:  Say if you were real thirsty um You might go to the sink and get yourself a
604:  Drink of water.
Interviewer:  or if you'd you'd pour the water into a
604:  glass
Interviewer:  okay and you say that glass fell off the sink and
604:  broke
Interviewer:  They say so somebody has what that glass somebody has
604:  Stepped on it or broke it or
Interviewer:  okay and you say but I didn't mean to
604:  hurt didn't mean to break it
Interviewer:  okay and food taken regular meals you'd call that
604:  Just snacking or
Interviewer:  okay um and um say if if dinner was on the table and a family was standing around waiting to begin What would you say to them
604:  Tell 'em to come on let's get through.
Interviewer:  or if you're standing around the table you tell 'em to
604:  Hit the sails.
Interviewer:  okay and um if someone offered you some food that you didn't want you might say
604:  Thank ya I wouldn't care for it.
Interviewer:  okay now if food's been cooked and served a second time you say that it's been
604:  Warmed over
Interviewer:  and you say you put food in your mouth and then you
604:  Can't swallow it
Interviewer:  okay or if
604:  #1 Oh you chew it #
Interviewer:  #2 {X} # okay and um peas and carrots and beets and so forth you call those
604:  vegetables
Interviewer:  and um you'd grow them in a
604:  garden
Interviewer:  and um you might take um corn and and take some {X} water and
604:  Make {X}
Interviewer:  okay and um did you ever hear anything about people making whiskey themselves
604:  I heard 'em bout making whiskey but I don't know how they do it
Interviewer:  Do you know what they call that whiskey when they make it themselves?
604:  Whiskey still um
Interviewer:  If they called whiskey did that they make
604:  uh white lightning
Interviewer:  okay
604:  {NW} Just call them whiskey.
Interviewer:  What about beer?
604:  I don't know nothing about it.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of people making that themselves?
604:  Oh yeah I've heared of it. making it with potatoes and making it with uh uh fruit juices things like that
Interviewer:  and uh something that that you might pour over pancakes would be
604:  syrup
Interviewer:  okay and you say um this isn't imitation maple syrup it's
604:  A homegrown huh
Interviewer:  or it's gen
604:  or what
Interviewer:  it's not imitation it's
604:  It's real.
Interviewer:  or gen say say if you had a leather belt it would have something on it it'd tell ya that it was made out of leather you'd say that it
604:  Genuine leather
Interviewer:  okay and um something that you might spread on toast in the morning
604:  butter
Interviewer:  okay or
604:  um margarine or or jelly
Interviewer:  okay and um say if there was a {NS} um there were some apples and a child wanted one you'd say
604:  He wanted the apple.
Interviewer:  okay and um you say he doesn't live here he lives
604:  Down the next house over cross the branch or up the road or
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  just anywhere {NW}
Interviewer:  and um if you don't have any the opposite of rich is
604:  Don't have no what
Interviewer:  Yeah the opposite of rich is If you don't have any money at all then huh
604:  Poor folks
Interviewer:  okay and um if you have a lot of pastries say you have a peach
604:  Uh-huh orchard
Interviewer:  okay and um the inside of a cherry the part that you don't eat
604:  seed
Interviewer:  What about on a peach?
604:  Seed ya don't eat that either.
Interviewer:  uh-huh and the kind of peach that
604:  oh
Interviewer:  what kind
604:  {X} and {X}
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  {NW} clean peach or whatever you want to call it clean
Interviewer:  Clean peach is the same as
604:  #1 presses #
Interviewer:  #2 presses # Mm-hmm what about the part of the apple that you throw away?
604:  Seed and the peeling {NW}
Interviewer:  um
604:  Core.
Interviewer:  core is the same thing as the seed?
604:  The core is what holds the seeds you know.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Ya don't eat that.
Interviewer:  what um and what kind of nuts go in the ground
604:  peanuts
Interviewer:  Is there any other name for them?
604:  mm-hmm uh peanuts and goobers and uh {D: penders} and {NW}
Interviewer:  Those all the same thing?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Okay what um What nuts do you have around here?
604:  We have peanuts and hickory nuts uh walnuts pecans
Interviewer:  mm-hmm You know on a walnut they got those two {X} to them?
604:  uh-huh One's a little hull on the outside and the uh then the one that's next to the meat is uh a little hard {X}
Interviewer:  That that nut that you we were talking about earlier what what was that called again?
604:  uh uh tongue nut.
Interviewer:  uh-huh You said that you couldn't eat those
604:  No they're poison. They make oil out of 'em.
Interviewer:  and that that
604:  They ain't nothing that eat them not even cows nothing.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of of anyone trying to
604:  uh-huh There was a somebody come through here not well about two or three years ago and they found some tongue trees on the highway down {NS} they seen 'em and they just they stopped they got about two a piece for them and their children and they went about four miles they eat them things I don't know how they taste but they eat 'em and they found 'em up there just above Purvis on the road and they didn't know what in the world was a matter {D: no manners} had sense enough to tell 'em that they eat some um nuts they got down the road {X} and they picked 'em up and brought 'em back to the doctor there in Purvis and he said they'd eat tongue nuts so he had to give them some kind of shots to kill that poison.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm {X} What was the matter with them {X} What were they how they acted when they
604:  They just passed out. They just well they went to vomit to start with and vomited 'til they they'd all just passed out but the old man. and he just didn't hardly know nothing they said he's just limber as he could be. {NS}
Interviewer:  Seems awfully stupid just to eat something you don't know what it is
604:  uh-huh Looks like a {X}. I have never have tasted one but they must be been tasting pretty good.
Interviewer:  I guess. {C:laughing}
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  Enough to make 'em that sick.
604:  I know it.
Interviewer:  What kind of of things do you grow in your garden? Or have you grown in a garden if you don't have one this year.
604:  We had um peas and okra and squash watermelons and pepper and uh
Interviewer:  What about some things that grow
604:  turnips lettuce and radish
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  um cabbage and collards Oh just all kind of mess
Interviewer:  You say um ya take your turnips and cook them and make a {X}
604:  turnips Make a mess of greens.
Interviewer:  What others greens do you eat besides turnips?
604:  Collards cabbage
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  lettuce and mustard
Interviewer:  What about {X}?
604:  No Oo I'm scared of that poison still.
Interviewer:  Poke is poison?
604:  Oo yeah you have to boil it and take all the juice off of it and then reboil it and Then when you flavor it up to eat it a lotta folks eats that stuff
Interviewer:  What do they call it when they eat it?
604:  uh poke we call it poke salad.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  Yeah we don't never fool with it here. We just let it go to seeding. {NW} Fall off Seed for the birds.
Interviewer:  What um what goes something that's got a strong odor that makes tears come to your eyes goes down in the ground
604:  Grows under the ground
Interviewer:  {X} you pull it up
604:  Onions about all I know
Interviewer:  What about those kind of onions that you eat when they're still young?
604:  Green onions
Interviewer:  mm-kay and um something red that that grows on a bush that you {X}
604:  Tomatoes
Interviewer:  okay you know there's tomatoes that are bigger than that
604:  uh-huh It's little plum tomatoes.
Interviewer:  mm-kay
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  and the kind of fruit that that grows down in Florida that's about the size of a
604:  oh down in the Florida oranges
Interviewer:  okay say if you had a bowl of oranges and one day you went to get one there weren't any left you'd say the oranges are
604:  gone
Interviewer:  okay and um say what kind of a beans do you have
604:  Well Snap beans Shell beans butter beans and
Interviewer:  Is there any other name for butter beans?
604:  well there different kind of butter beans ya know there's some that makes on vines and then there's some that makes on bushes {NS} bush of 'em and there's some speckled and some white and some large and some small
Interviewer:  mm-hmm what what about lima beans ?
604:  Lima beans is what butter beans.
Interviewer:  Oh I see
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  um say if you wanted to get the the beans out of the pods by hand you'd say you had to
604:  shell 'em
Interviewer:  okay and um outside of the ear of corn is called the
604:  shell
Interviewer:  and that that stringy stuff you have to take off
604:  Silks
Interviewer:  and the the thing that grows up at the top of the cornstalk
604:  It's a tassel
Interviewer:  okay and um corn that's tender enough to eat off the cob is called
604:  {X}
Interviewer:  okay and um something that um well you mentioned you had watermelon so there's different kinds of watermelon?
604:  mm-hmm There different kinds. yellow ones uh red ones some lime ones a streak in 'em, some green ones I mean some just solid green ya know? on the outside
Interviewer:  Do they have different names?
604:  I reckon so.
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of um something that's similar to a watermelon that um
604:  Citron A citron?
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  That's something looks just like a watermelon but you can't tell tell it apart hardly but ya can't cut it hardly
Interviewer:  Citron
604:  Uh-huh citron Make preserves out of them. Then I have the cantaloupes and um marsh melons
Interviewer:  What's the difference between them?
604:  Well uh cantaloupes is little bitty fellers like this. usually
Interviewer:  just about as
604:  #1 uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 big as your #
604:  #1 Uh-huh #
Interviewer:  #2 your #
604:  and marsh melons are get to be great big
Interviewer:  but but they're both round?
604:  yeah both round and yellow when ya get them when they're ripe
Interviewer:  uh-huh And a citron you mentioned is It's real hard to open you say?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  and it looks like a watermelon?
604:  mm-hmm
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard of a pine melon?
604:  mm-hmm They's just about the same thing as a citron.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  They
Interviewer:  What's the difference?
604:  Well it uh citrons is a little harder to cut than pine melon It's the only difference I can tell.
Interviewer:  You call that a what melon?
604:  a pie melon pie melon and a citron
Interviewer:  A pie like the thing that you eat?
604:  They call it pie melon. And it's uh
Interviewer:  um what about something that would spring up little umbrella shade thing that spring up in the woods or fields after it rains?
604:  Uh mushroom
Interviewer:  okay Can you eat those?
604:  uh-uh I don't. {NW}
Interviewer:  Is there anything similar to that that has a different name ?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  Thinking of toad stool or frog fin.
604:  Well that's a mushroom. That uh toad stools. It's a mushroom. Some grows out of the ground and some grows on wood rock and wood and different ways ya know
Interviewer:  but it's it's all the same thing?
604:  It's all same thing
Interviewer:  And uh
604:  All mushrooms. {NS}
Interviewer:  Say if um if a boy got a whipping you say well I bet he did something he
604:  ought not to
Interviewer:  okay and um if if you're refusing in a very strong way to do something you might say No matter how many times you ask me to do that I just
604:  Not going to do it {NW}
Interviewer:  and um talking about kinds of animals now the kind of bird that can see in the dark
604:  I guess it's a bat.
Interviewer:  okay but what about the one that they can make that scary noise
604:  um I don't know uh Them old screech owls.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  make a freezing noise no hoot owls can make a loud noise And the old Think about that about the old howlers at night.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm what um
604:  lot of birds
Interviewer:  What about the kinda birds that that drills holes in the trees?
604:  That's an ol' woodpecker. {NW} a red head uh woodchuck or whatever you wanna call it.
Interviewer:  um Are there any other kinds of wood- woodpeckers?
604:  That's
Interviewer:  A woodchuck and a woodpecker is the #1 same thing? #
604:  #2 uh-huh # Woodchucks woodpeckers and woodhens
Interviewer:  Is one of 'em male and one the female or?
604:  I don't know
Interviewer:  woodhen and woodchuck?
604:  I imagine.
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  But there woodhen is a big um bird
Interviewer:  Oh the woodhen is bigger than the?
604:  uh-huh It's the biggest. bird {X} that I know of except uh less it was eagle or crow or buzzard or something like that
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Have you ever had um woodpeckers called peckerwoods?
604:  mm-hmm Some folks calls 'em peckerwoods and some calls 'em woodpeckers.
Interviewer:  Who calls 'em peckerwoods?
604:  I don't know. just a lotta folks
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  peckerwoods I heared some peckerwoods down
Interviewer:  Have you ever heard that word peckerwood being used to talk about people?
604:  {NW} I don't know.
Interviewer:  I mean did no one ever say he's just an old #1 that old peckerwood #
604:  #2 {X} # just peckerwood Now I imagine I've heared that plenty of times. {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you know what it it means to
604:  It just wasting time I guess.
Interviewer:  Yeah
604:  {NW}
Interviewer:  um what about a black and white animals that's got a real strong smell
604:  Polecat.
Interviewer:  and um
604:  a stunk
Interviewer:  Is that the same thing?
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  um
604:  polecat or a stunk whatever ya wanna call him he really put out the {NW} scent.
Interviewer:  um what kinds of talking about um say some animals have been coming and and raiding your hen roost and you didn't know exactly what kind they were You might just say I'm gonna get me a gun and {NS} shoot does what?
604:  Whatever it is {NS} stealing my chickens.
Interviewer:  uh-huh {NW}
604:  Except we used to have chickens here and the foxes eat 'em up.
Interviewer:  Oh really?
604:  Mm-hmm. and we had uh some little old {X} and they could rise and fly this down in the swamp there up to the house or they was down in the field down they could rise and fly get away from 'em we kept them pretty good while. There so many of 'em got killed after on the road by cars so we just quit trying to have 'em.
Interviewer:  did um talking about the animals that would come and kill things like like hens Would you ever have just a general name
604:  Fox. and uh they tell me coons will and um wild cats and possums {X} I don't know what else.
Interviewer:  Would you ever just call 'em varmints?
604:  mm-hmm Call 'em varmints
Interviewer:  What does varmints mean?
604:  That's means any kind that comes out of the woods.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and um a little bushy tailed animal that gets up in the trees
604:  squirrels
Interviewer:  okay what different kinds of squirrels are there?
604:  There are red squirrels and gray squirrels here.
Interviewer:  mm
604:  and uh they claim there have been few white ones #1 uh #
Interviewer:  #2 white squirrels #
604:  uh-huh
Interviewer:  Never heard of those
604:  Real white.
Interviewer:  What's um what about something that looks sort of like a squirrel only he can't climb trees?
604:  I don't know unless it be a polecat
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm Have you ever heard of chipmunk or brown squirrel?
604:  Yeah but they can climb trees can't they? chipmunk
Interviewer:  What what does a chipmunk look like?
604:  Just a {X} {NS} just an ol' kind of a squirrel I'd call it
Interviewer:  mm-hmm is it smaller than a regular squirrel or larger or what?
604:  Mm-mm. Yes. Bout the same
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. and um something that pearls grow in?
604:  What now?
Interviewer:  pearls something you'd get down from the gulf people eat 'em raw sometimes {NW}
604:  I reckon you all 'em oysters huh?
Interviewer:  okay Do you eat those?
604:  No
Interviewer:  {NW}
604:  Oh there are several things I can't eat. Just don't eat. I guess I'm just kinda curious. {NW} Lotta folks likes {X} oysters and shrimp and um all that kind of stuff Wouldn't give you four bits for all that's underwater everywhere. Now I can eat fish if they're fresh but don't bring 'em here and put 'em in the deep freeze. I don't want 'em.
Interviewer:  Do you think that ruins the taste?
604:  I don't know I just Reckon it does, it just don't taste right. I can eat 'em when they're fresh yeah I just, I ain't no hog about it. But {X} whenever they uh can you get salmon sardines or what What have you, if it's canned, don't bring 'em to me. {NW}
Interviewer:  You don't like oysters at all?
604:  uh-uh No {NS}
Interviewer:  um what about something that you might hear making a noise around the pond at night?
604:  Frogs {X} {NW}
Interviewer:  What do you call those big ol' frogs?
604:  um We called 'em spring frogs {X} well they A lotta folks eats them old big frogs.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Did you call 'em spring frogs?
604:  I think so.
Interviewer:  Is there there any other kinds of frogs?
604:  Yeah there are the little toad frogs and there are the uh little old um tree frogs and there um
Interviewer:  Any other name for tree frogs?
604:  I don't know.
Interviewer:  You ever heard of thunder frogs?
604:  No.
Interviewer:  That's another name I think that someone told me that. uh what might you dig up to go fishing with?
604:  Uh earthworms
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  So there are different kinds of worms? yeah Earthworms and grub worms ya dig up
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  Then you can get {D:sawyers} off old dead logs and and
Interviewer:  Then you can get what?
604:  {D:Sawyers}
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  That's something right under the bark when a tree falls. and uh gets to where the it gets wormy
Interviewer:  uh-huh
604:  When you peel that ol' bark off get you a bunch of {D:sawyers}
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  they look like a grub worm but they real flat heads as flat as a {X} goes under the bark
Interviewer:  What about
604:  real good fish bait
Interviewer:  What about a a small fish you might use for bait?
604:  Minnows
Interviewer:  mm-kay and um something that little hard shell thing that can pull its neck and legs into its shell
604:  {NW} Well it's a gophers and terrapins and uh uh
Interviewer:  Do they stay on land or in water or?
604:  Both There some terrapins in the water and there are some hard shells they call 'em on the ground. {C: Lots of noise} {NS} travels on the ground.
Interviewer:  What about a gopher, what's that like?
604:  It's a big ol' hard shelled outfit and he pull his head and legs in too.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm Is there anything special about him?
604:  Not a thing that I know of. He can really make a hole in the ground.
Interviewer:  Oh he can?
604:  I heard that people would eat 'em and I never seen it.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. um Name something that talking about insects now and kind of insect that'll fly around a light
604:  Ooh horse flies and bees and bumblebees and uh wasps and dirt daubers mosquitoes and all kind of bugs are gathered to a light
Interviewer:  uh-huh um what about something that builds a stinging insect that builds a a nest sort of
604:  Hornets.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and um Do dirt daubers sting you?
604:  uh-uh They bite but they won't sting.
Interviewer:  They'll bite?
604:  uh-huh They don't don't make no {X} bite
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  but they'll clench ya a little bit
Interviewer:  yeah
604:  and a wasp will really stick it to ya yellow jacket
Interviewer:  What where does a yellow jacket build its nest?
604:  In the ground
Interviewer:  mm-hmm and uh what about something that flies around a light at if you grab it powder would come off in your hand
604:  light
Interviewer:  uh-huh an insect if you grab this insect
604:  butterfly
Interviewer:  okay and um so something that's similar to a butterfly but not quite the same thing
604:  um these old uh catalpa trees out here has uh uh a big ol' things like butterflies but their bodies bigger than a butterfly
Interviewer:  mm-hmm
604:  and they lay eggs on them leaves and {NS} first thing ya know the trees just eat up the worms
Interviewer:  What do you call those things
604:  {NS} The catalpa worms.
Interviewer:  Oh the things that that {NS} like a butterfly
604:  We'll call 'em catalpa flies.
Interviewer:  mm-hmm um what about something that'll get in your wool clothes?
604:  um
604:  little ol' blue fish {NS} and little old uh moths and
Interviewer:  That was a what?
604:  A moth.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. {NS}
604:  little other things that'll cut up wool clothes
Interviewer:  uh-huh What about something that, that has light in its tail?
604:  Lightning bug.
Interviewer:  Okay. {NS} And um a long thin-bodied insect that's got two pairs of shiny wings
604:  Mosquitoes I, mosquito hawks.
Interviewer:  Okay. Is there any other name for them? That you ever have? Snake something?
604:  Mosquito hawks all I ever heard 'em called.
Interviewer:  And a little {NW} insect that would get in your skin if you went blackberry picking.
604:  Redbugs.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  And ticks, seed ticks.
Interviewer:  Seed ticks?
604:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What do you call those those big ticks?
604:  Uh well, speck backs and blue ticks. The blue ticks get some nubs that get to be great big things. And the speck backs they is just a little old hard tick. They get on dogs. People too, if you get close. And the red bugs will just eat 'em up, some folks call them chiggers.
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  Chiggers.
Interviewer:  I see. What uh, what about the uh, that blue tick you mentioned. Now, what color is it?
604:  It's an old blue looking outfit, it gray looking.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
604:  Gray.
Interviewer:  I think I know what you mean and they, they get to be as big as say
604:  yeah.
Interviewer:  As your fingernail.
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Yeah, I've heard them called cow ticks.
604:  Yeah
Interviewer:  But uh I didn't know, I guess that's where you get blue tick from or something I guess. Um what about an insect that hops around in the grass?
604:  What a frog?
Interviewer:  Uh an insect.
604:  Oh, insect. A grasshopper.
Interviewer:  Mm-kay have you ever heard them called hoppergrass?
604:  Uh-huh. I just stopped {NS} I didn't know how to say that. {NW} Grasshoppers.
Interviewer:  And say if you hadn't cleaned a room in a while up in the, in the ceiling, in the corner.
604:  Oh spiders.
Interviewer:  Or are the thing you'd find stretched up there would be
604:  Spider web.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And uh what about something like that outside maybe across a bush?
604:  Mm-hmm. Spider webs.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. And uh The part of the tree underneath the ground those are called the...
604:  Roots.
Interviewer:  Okay Did you ever year of using uh roots or vines for medicine?
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What, what would you use {X}
604:  Well it used to be, we called it scurvy grass.
Interviewer:  Scurvy grass?
604:  Uh-huh some folks called it bluegrass.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  And {NS} you could take it and make a cup of tea and it was a good {D: pergatea} {NS} and uh then {D: old field} pine. It's a little old bush it grows on the ground that's uh {NS} you can make a tea out of that. {NS} And sweat a fever out.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  And uh you can take uh {D: Pollypotus}
Interviewer:  {D: Pollypotus}?
604:  Uh-huh. {D: Pollypotus}. And you can uh chew the root of it up and spit the, just drink the juice out of it. You spit the root out. And it cures {D: pies} And uh
Interviewer:  It cures what?
604:  {D: Pives} If your, people seeing guts going out
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  They call it uh what is it? Thyroid? Hemorrhoids
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. I see. {NS}
604:  And They have a lot of different little old things like that.
Interviewer:  What does this {D:pollypotus} thing look like?
604:  Well it's just a kind of a {D: brogue} leaf {NS} little old thing it grows in the woods.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  And it makes a {D: touch} comes up I mean the stem up. And it has just a few leaves on the stem. Then it has a noble thing on bulb or thing on top and when it opens up, it's kind of a fuzzy looking flower. And it soon gets uh dry, dried up. And it just blows fuzz all over. Everywhere.
Interviewer:  Hmm, I see. Think I've seen those before. Uh what kind of trees do you have around here?
604:  We have oak. Pines. Pecans. Uh Redbuds. Uh Poplar. Black gum.
604:  Magnolias.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  Oh and a lot of different kinds of trees.
Interviewer:  What kinds of bushes do you have?
604:  Woo {NW} We have uh Huckleberry bushes and uh coralberry bushes and {NS} Tongue tree bushes
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  Tongue tree bushes.
Interviewer:  Tongue tree?
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  Oh it's the same?
604:  Uh-huh tongue or tree bush.
Interviewer:  Yeah.
604:  And uh we have the {NS} {D: crate murdem} We have the highland {D: murdem}. We have a
Interviewer:  Did you have a red bush a bush that turns red and gets berries on it and
604:  Uh-huh.
Interviewer:  What's that?
604:  It's a mulberry.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. Uh what about a bush that might grow along the road {NS} by a fence and the leaves turn bright red in the fall. Um it has clusters of berries on it.
604:  Um Possum holes.
Interviewer:  What?
604:  Possum holes.
Interviewer:  I never heard of that. {NS}
604:  And uh it's just a little bush that grows along the side of the road.
Interviewer:  Did you have sue or shoe?
604:  A what?
Interviewer:  Sue or shoe?
604:  Shoemake. Oh yeah a lot of shoemake.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What um What about a tree that it has long white limbs and white scaly bark.
604:  Sycamore.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um the kind of tree that George Washington cut down.
604:  Was that a sycamore? What was it?
Interviewer:  Tree that has a little
604:  Oh yeah. Cherry tree.
Interviewer:  Okay What kinds of um berries do you have around here?
604:  Bright berries, Huckleberries, and um gooseberries and uh highland {D:myrtle} highland uh Huckleberries and uh We have all kinds of bush berries.
Interviewer:  What about a red colored berry?
604:  Cherries?
Interviewer:  Yeah but uh something you make shortcake out of?
604:  Strawberries?
Interviewer:  Okay. And what about a berry that has a rough surface? And some are red and some are black? Did you ever have ras-
604:  Raspberries?
Interviewer:  Uh-huh, do you have them around here?
604:  No we don't grow them around here.
Interviewer:  What kinds of uh bushes or vines will make your skin break out if you touch it?
604:  Uh gold berries not gold berries but uh mm Some kind of poison berry let me see.
Interviewer:  Well, not necessarily berries but just what kind of bushes
604:  Oh.
Interviewer:  or vines.
604:  Oh um
604:  I can't even think. I know there's some that you don't touch though. Can't call it now. {NS}
Interviewer:  Do you ever hear ivy or poison oak?
604:  Ivy and poison oak, both grows here. And they're known well. The kind of vines that grow up the trees it poison you too.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What's the poison oak look like?
604:  It's just a little old bush.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  Has leaves. It don't look like a oak leaf but about the size of a oak leaf.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. {NS} Do you have a {NS} laurel or
604:  Mm-hmm.
Interviewer:  What's the laurel?
604:  It's a green, it's uh just a bush has green limbs, green leaves on it. And the leaves is kinda thick.
Interviewer:  Does it have flowers?
604:  I don't believe.
Interviewer:  Uh say if a If a married woman didn't want to make up her own mind about something, she'd say she had to ask her
604:  Husband.
Interviewer:  Okay. And um {NS} And the man would say I have to ask
604:  His mother. {NW}
Interviewer:  Talking about her
604:  Oh have to ask her, his wife.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. And a woman whose, whose husband is dead is called a...
604:  A widow woman.
Interviewer:  Okay and if um if he just left her, then she'd be a
604:  Widow.
Interviewer:  Yeah, no he left her.
604:  Oh. Then she'd be a Oh uh
Interviewer:  He's still alive.
604:  Oh yeah.
Interviewer:  You say grass?
604:  What?
Interviewer:  Grass widows? Do you
604:  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh I'm trying to think of that. {NW} She's a grass widow.
Interviewer:  Okay. And the, the man who's child you are is called your
604:  Daddy.
Interviewer:  Okay or another name. He's called your
604:  Father.
Interviewer:  Okay, and his wife is your...
604:  Mother.
Interviewer:  Okay and together they're your
604:  Parents.
Interviewer:  Okay. What did you call your your father?
604:  Called him uh pappy.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  And we called our mother mommy.
Interviewer:  Okay.
604:  Mommy and pappy.
Interviewer:  And.
604:  And no one nobody else ever done that around here. They always said dad and mother.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh.
604:  Some things like that. Maw and paw and so on but we always said pappy and mommy.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm.
604:  That's the way they taught us and we {X} so we always called them that.
Interviewer:  Mm-hmm. What about your father's father? What did you, what would he be?
604:  He'd be my grandpa.
Interviewer:  Uh-huh. What did you call him?
604:  Grandpa.
Interviewer:  Okay, and uh