Interviewer: How do you spell your last name? {B} {B} mm-kay And your address? 662: P-O box {B} Schriever Interviewer: And the name of this Parish? 662: Teraborn {NS} Interviewer: And the state? 662: Louisiana Interviewer: And where were you born? 662: Schriever Interviewer: You've always lived here? 662: I've lived in Thibodaux and I am right back in Schriever again. Interviewer: How long did you live in Thibodaux? 662: ah {NW} seventeen years Interviewer: How far away is that? 662: three miles {NW} um And your age? thirty-five Interviewer: And Occupation? 662: Domestic Engineer Interviewer: Okay Have you ever worked outside of your house? 662: Yeah Interviewer: What sort of work did you do? 662: Uh I worked for the newspaper I did different jobs I was a proof reader Interviewer: What newspaper? 662: {NW} The Daily Common in Thibodaux Interviewer: And religion? 662: Catholic Interviewer: And tell me about your education and the name of the school you went to. 662: Uh went to Thibodaux Elementary. Interviewer: #1 You were living in Thibodaux? # 662: #2 # Interviewer: #1 # 662: #2 In Thibodaux # Interviewer: #1 # 662: #2 uh-huh # Interviewer: #1 # 662: #2 # Then I switched over to Mount Carmel academy in high school and I graduated from Mount Carmel. Interviewer: So you went to Thibodaux Elementary through the seventh? 662: No I switched over in the 10th grade at Mount Carmel. Interviewer: mm-hmm Mount? Car 662: C-A-R-M-E-L Interviewer: and have you ever been um active in clubs or groups or very active in.. 662: I belong to home demonstration club and the P-T-C Interviewer: What about church? Are you very active in church? 662: I'm not active in church organization. Interviewer: Have you done much traveling? 662: I went to San Diego for three months and the only other place I went to was in Florida Tampa. Interviewer: And tell us some about your parents where they were born and 662: My parents were born right here in Louisiana. One in Thibodaux one in Schriever Interviewer: Which? 662: My mother was born in Schriever and my father was born in Thibodaux. Interviewer: And what about their education? 662: My father graduated from high school and he went to business school. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: My mother quit in the seventh grade in Schriever. Interviewer: mm-hmm What sort of work did they do? 662: My my father still working he works for um a company in Thibodaux he's um office clerk. My mother sells Avon. Interviewer: What about your grandparents on your mother's side? 662: I never knew my grandfather on my mother's side I knew my grandmother. um I don't I don't think grandma {B} had any education. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: I know she couldn't read. She could tell time she could give change you know things like that. Interviewer: um 662: She ran a boarding house on a plantation for years. She was an excellent cook. Her cooking was well known Interviewer: Was she from Schriever? 662: She {NW} Grandma was born around Labadieville. Labadieville in nine miles from here. Interviewer: Lab? 662: L-A-B-A-D-I-E-V-I-L-L-E Interviewer: uh-huh {NS} That's in this parish? 662: That's in Assumption Parish Interviewer: What about um your grandfather. Do you know where he was born? 662: uh uh I don't know Interviewer: And What about on your father's side? Do you know where? 662: I think they were both born in Thibodaux. I'm really not sure because I never knew my grandfather on my father's side either. And my grandmother died was I was very small. Interviewer: Did you ever hear about what sort of work they did or their education? 662: No not really. Interviewer: What about your husband? How old is he? 662: He's thirty-six Interviewer: And catholic too? 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: What about his education? 662: He quit in the ninth grade and went on into the Navy {NW} in the fifties. Interviewer: Where was he born? 662: He was born in Grandal. Interviewer: #1 Where is # 662: #2 and he # he was raised in Homer. Interviewer: What parish is Grandal in? 662: Grandal is is Jefferson Parish believe it or not. Interviewer: It's right it's right down from New Orleans? 662: #1 Oh no it's # Interviewer: #2 {D: is?} # 662: you have to go down by Lafourche. you know which they claim is the longest street in the world and right after you get at the very end you have to cross a bridge and then you you're in Jefferson Parish. It's not Lafourche Parish anymore Grandal is Jefferson Parish. Interviewer: Jefferson Parish is also goes up to New Orleans. 662: Yeah Jefferson Parish is on the west bank you know the west side of the river. So like if someone has to have any legal matters done or anything like that they have to go all make the round go all the way around you know through Lafourche Parish through St. Charles Parish and go to the parish seat which is right there by New Orleans. Interviewer: {NW} 662: So they are out of the way. Interviewer: They don't have those roads down there are really funny. I mean you can't just they don't 662: #1 You have to follow by Lafourche and turn off in Raislin. # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 662: You see? Interviewer: Yes I see. 662: There isolated really and there's just one road going down there that's why its hectic when the hurricane hits down there because that is the only excavation route I mean that is it. And the cars are bumper to bumper getting off that island. Interviewer: Do they have hurricanes down here very often? Hurricane warnings 662: uh Were always tense at hurricane time because we had a few bad ones you know and if we don't get the full force of it sometimes we get the gale winds like if it's hitting ah Texas. If you are east of the hurricane you can get the gale force winds. If you are west of the hurricane you hardly feel anything. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: See when the hurricane hit Galveston or Lake Charles on that part. Well we still get bad weather. Now when Celia hit Biloxi and just about flattened down Biloxi a few years ago we hardly got anything at all because we were west of the hurricane. Interviewer: mm-hmm When is the hurricane season? 662: Hurricane season starts June first and it ends in October. But they start getting bad around September. That's that's the month you have to watch. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: August and September Interviewer: What is that area like down um around Grandal? 662: #1 Uh # Interviewer: #2 Is it mostly shrimping or # 662: Uh The people in Grandal are they like to keep to themselves but they can't really because they have the biggest fishing rodeo. The Tarpin rodeo they have people from all over the place that come to Grandal for the Tarpin rodeo. They have red fish rodeo and then what keeps Grandal alive well the oil companies because I mean you have your humble dock down there and you have you know because they can get to the rigs out there Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: and uh seven miles off of Grandal is the sulfur platforms it's the only sulfur mine over water. uh free port sulfur constructed that my husband worked on that one time. Interviewer: Isn't there a place called Port Sulphur? or something 662: Port Sulphur is in Plaquemines Parish. That is by Burus and Triumph and {NS} down there below New Orleans. By the mouth of the river. Interviewer: What's that area like? I was thinking about going down there. 662: Ah Orange country. They grow a lot of orange trees and they have like I said it is in the mouth of the river they you know they have docks and everything for the ships to transport the sulphur an what have you I- I- I'm not too familiar with Plaquemines Parish. Interviewer: um So you are telling me that your husband what sort of work does he do? 662: He is a welder Interviewer: And is he very active in church or clubs or anything like that? 662: uh uh The only thing he does is {NW} When he leaves work he likes to come home and do the same thing he's getting he's started last weekend to build a little shop in the back to build a little welding shop so we can clear up his back and he wants to start welding on weekends trying to make a few extra dollars. That's what he likes to do. That's his main interest. He loves to fool around with machinery and welding and stuff like that. Interviewer: um Were his parents born in this area? Were they 662: His mother was born in Grandal and his daddy was born in Gibson. Which is a small community just a few miles from here going toward Morgan City. Interviewer: mm-hmm Tell me um what this area is like how much it has changed in the past few years or what you know most of the people do for a living here? 662: Well like I said before most of the people depend on oil Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: you know oil, seafood, and sugarcane That's that's the main industries down here and ah well you have a lot of shrimpers you have ah ah men that catch fish you have oyster fisherman um and then you have your sugarcane farmers. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And then like I said oil is related to so many things you have your wire line services you have your fabricators you have um oh ah food services that thrive on oil industry well you have now further along the river you have a lot of chemical plants because of there location on the Mississippi River. I have a brother-n-law that works a chemical plant American {X} Interviewer: Is this um what is the plantations like here? Are they mainly owned by large companies or individuals? 662: Uh large companies. Your smaller farmers lease land you know but most of them are owned by large companies. Interviewer: And you said it is about fifty percent black here? 662: Not well I don't the school is you know because of I don't know how to describe it. The school right now is at just about fifty fifty. Interviewer: What about just in general? Just in Schriever 662: Well like the black people are concentrated in three different areas around here you know they are not spread out they are concentrated. Like in the little community of Gray then they have Johnson Ridge and then they have Levi {D} town. Interviewer: So this this general area #1 would you say it is about forty or fifty percent # 662: #2 Yeah # Interviewer: #1 black? # 662: #2 I would # Interviewer: Um I would like to get an idea about what the house you grew up in looked like just sort of the floor plan just sort of sketch it and tell me the names of the rooms. 662: {X} that was on McCoy street {NS} um let me see {NS} I might be off a little bit. This was the living room and this was the dining room right there Interviewer: Right behind it? 662: uh-huh There was a little petition there this was a hall. Okay this was the kitchen. This was one bedroom. Well I goofed this was the bath right here and the door went there this was my bedroom and this was the little sun porch back here. Our a third bedroom Misspelled porch this was a patio back here and the garage. She also had she had a front porch here. {NS} There were the box wood hedges we used to always Interviewer: {D:this is the front} What about the house you live in now can you sort of sketch that? 662: This house is seventy years old. It was an old hotel. We bought this from my aunt I'm goofing up somewhere. Let me see this is the boy's bedroom and this is the girl's bedroom and I'm not in proportion at all there this is a hall this is our bedroom. No that's off that's off something terrible. Living room except our bedroom goes all the way like this. I am off real bad. This is the living room this is wall here and that is the bathroom this is the kitchen this is the table and the hall is right here {X} I was really off this is the porch. Interviewer: Which? 662: This bedroom goes all the way across. Interviewer: Which room are we in now? 662: We're in the living room right here. {NW} This way {NW} Interviewer: What what's this? 662: This is the sewing area right here. Interviewer: And what about this? 662: This is the rest of the living room. Interviewer: Oh so this shouldn't be here? 662: Right right just disregard that {NW: laughter} {NW} Interviewer: Okay {NS} 662: As many times as I drew my house plans I don't know why I goofed up because I want to build a hall in the front. Interviewer: Do you remember a hearing an old fashion name for living room? 662: Parlor? Interviewer: uh-huh What about for porch? 662: Veranda Interviewer: What's what's a veranda now? 662: I don't know but {NS} you know {NS} all I know is that we call it a porch. Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear of a gallery? 662: A gallery yeah my grandma used to call it a gallery. Interviewer: Was Did that mean just any kind of porch or was it a certain kind or what? 662: Ah I don't {NS} it was just a porch you know that's all that I know. Interviewer: I noticed you um talked about a a sun porch or a patio. 662: Well a sun porch is enclosed and has just you know like windows a lot of windows. Interviewer: What about the patio? 662: A patio is open. {NS} When you talking about a patio down here mostly you talking about just a cemented floor you know and and furniture and a barbecue pit Interviewer: mm-hmm {NS} 662: you know Interviewer: Um Did you ever have a house that didn't have a fireplace in it? 662: Yes. This one we tore it out Interviewer: What about um you know on the fireplace the the part that the smoke goes up through? You call that the? 662: Chimney Interviewer: And you know the open place on the floor in front of the fireplace? 662: No Interviewer: You ever hear a name for a maybe it be made out of rock or bricks or something that place down on the floor. 662: The hearth? Interviewer: uh-huh 662: yeah Interviewer: And what about the thing that you set the wood on in the fireplace? 662: I am not familiar with that. Interviewer: Did you ever see little iron things that? 662: #1 I have seen it # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 662: #1 yeah # Interviewer: #2 # You've never heard a name for it? 662: #1 No # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 662: #1 {NW} # Interviewer: #2 # What about the thing up above the fireplace? 662: #1 The mantel # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 662: #1 # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 662: mantel Interviewer: okay and say if you were going to start a fire what kind of wood would you use to start it with? 662: I wouldn't know {NW} something {NW} that would burn easily I guess I don't know. Interviewer: Do you ever hear people talk about kindling or lighters #1 anything like that? # 662: #2 mm-hmm yeah # Interviewer: What what did you hear them say? 662: Well I you know like someone will talk about you'll hear these things but it doesn't soak in you know. Firewood that's all I know is that you need firewood and that's it. Interviewer: Did you ever um this may be way before your time but uh did you ever hear uh people take a a big piece of wood and set that sorta towards the back of the fireplace they would burn maybe all night? 662: I am not familiar with fireplaces that much. Interviewer: Okay I was saying do you ever hear of back stick or back log? 662: No Interviewer: And the black stuff that forms in the chimney? 662: Soot Interviewer: And what you have to shovel out? 662: Ashes Interviewer: And talk about things you'd have in a room um something that you could have to sit on something you would have there to sit in? 662: A chair Interviewer: okay what about something longer than a chair that? 662: A sofa Interviewer: Any other names for that? 662: I always call it a sofa some people call it a couch. Interviewer: uh-huh Did you ever hear an old fashion name? 662: I can't recall Interviewer: Divan or davenport or? 662: Not down here. Interviewer: What about the sort of things you could have in your bedroom for keeping clothes in? 662: A closet Or an armoire Interviewer: Okay what that's that's a 662: #1 That's an armoire yeah # Interviewer: #2 That's # What about something smaller than an armoire? 662: A chest of drawers. Interviewer: mm-hmm The the armoire you can hang things in can't you? {NS} 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: Is there anything similar to an armoire that you can also hang things in? 662: A closet Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a chifforobe? 662: A chifforobe yeah Interviewer: What's that like? 662: A chifforobe to me in in my opinions some people might disagree a chifforobe is like an armoire but not as ornate as an armoire. Interviewer: Is it about the same size? 662: A chifforobe is usually smaller. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: It's plain. Interviewer: What about um wardrobe? Did you ever hear of them? 662: I've heard of wardrobe being used but not often not down here Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Usually they will either say armoire of chifforobe. Interviewer: mm-hmm but a wardrobe is something like the the chifforobe? 662: It would be. {NS} Interviewer: And um What else besides a chest of drawers would you have with just drawers in it? 662: Dresser Interviewer: How's that different from the chest of drawers? 662: Well a dresser has a mirror Interviewer: mm What about you were telling me about 662: That's a side board Interviewer: What's that used for? 662: I really don't know {NW} {NW} I went to a meeting not too long ago and we um with a guest at a furniture store {NS} and this guy is an interior decorator and ah he says all these people that have these hundred year old monsters in their house doesn't have anything well naturally he's trying to sell furniture you know he is trying to sell um Tell City and Ethan Allen and all this stuff but down here uh old furnitures really getting more popular. Interviewer: mm-hmm I guess it went in the 662: I think it went in the dining room really A mirror is supposed to go in the back of that thing. We have to get it resilvered but I guess it would be used in the dining room. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of old pieces of furniture called chiffonier or bureau? 662: A bureau would be like a chest of drawer. Interviewer: Is it just an old fashioned name for a? 662: I think it would be Interviewer: What about something that um that you could have in your windows so to pull down to keep out the light? 662: Shades Interviewer: mm-kay and the top part of the house with covering on the house is called a? 662: roof Interviewer: What about the little things along the edge of the roof that carry the water off? 662: Gutters. Interviewer: And something that if you have a house in an L the place where they come together. 662: The ease Interviewer: mm-kay and a room at the top of the house just under the roof? 662: The attic Interviewer: And um You mentioned the kitchen um did you ever hear of different kinds of kitchens like a kitchen built separate from the rest of the house? 662: A kitchen built separate from the rest of the house? Interviewer: Like a kitchen out in the yard or something? Aux: Yeah I know 662: uh uh Aux: {x} In case the kitchen catch on fire cause they used to have these open fireplaces you know they would have to cook in there. If the kitchen would catch on fire it wouldn't burn down the whole mansion or the whole house. Interviewer: uh huh 662: I never heard of {NW} Aux: Mostly in mansions. Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear an old fashioned name for kitchen? {NS} A cook house or anything like that? 662: It was always the kitchen to me {NS} {NS} Interviewer: And the little room {NS} 662: It's the train {NS} Interviewer: off the kitchen {NS} um where you can store can goods and things? {NS} 662: Pantry Pantry Interviewer: mm-kay and um you said you have a lot of old worthless things like old broken furniture and stuff you said well that's not good anymore that's just? 662: Junk Interviewer: okay and a room that you can store things that you don't know what to do with? 662: I had one like that I called it the junk room. Interviewer: okay and um if you had a two story house to get from the first floor to the second floor you'd have uh? 662: the stairs Interviewer: What about outside to get from the porch to the ground? 662: The steps Interviewer: And um talk say if your {X} Say if your house was in a big mess you'd say you had to do what to it? 662: Clean it up Interviewer: okay and the thing you'd use to sweep with? 662: A broom Interviewer: And say the broom was in the corner and the door was open so that the door was sort of hiding the broom you'd say the broom was? 662: Missing Interviewer: Was where in relation to the door? 662: Was behind the door. Interviewer: And the 662: Cause I couldn't {NW} it would be missing cause I couldn't find it {NW} {NW} I wouldn't think about closing a door to look. {NW} {NW} Interviewer: um say a long time ago women would maybe on Monday women would get all the dirty clothes together and do the? 662: Laundry The laundry Interviewer: huh? 662: The laundry Interviewer: uh huh Did they used to call it the laundry? 662: Do the washing. Interviewer: Then after they do the washing they bring the clothes in and do the 662: {NW} Interviewer: and get the wrinkles out and do the 662: Ironing yeah Interviewer: uh huh Do you remember um hearing about something they had out in the back yard to use for heating water to boil the clothes in you know a big black thing they had out in the yard? 662: uh uh Interviewer: What about um something you could you could use to heat up water to make hot tea and all that up a tea? 662: #1 Oh a teapot # Interviewer: #2 or # 662: #1 or a tea kettle # Interviewer: #2 # okay Did you ever hear of a wash pot or a wash kettle? 662: mm-mm no Interviewer: And um say the door was open and you didn't want it to be you'd ask somebody to? 662: Close the door. Interviewer: Or another word you could use? 662: Shut the door. Interviewer: And you know some houses have have boards on the outside that lap over each other. Do you know what I mean? 662: Siding? Interviewer: uh huh any other name for that? 662: wood siding is all I know Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear of weather boarding or clapboard? 662: Yeah Interviewer: clap 662: Yeah Interviewer: What did you hear it called? 662: Weather board Interviewer: uh huh That that's the same as the siding? 662: That would be. Interviewer: And say if you wanted to hang up a picture you'd take a nail and a 662: Hammer Interviewer: And you say I took the hammer and I what the nail in? 662: Hit Interviewer: Or I what the nail in? 662: Drove Interviewer: mm-kay and if it didn't get in far enough you'd say its got to be what in further? 662: Driven in further Interviewer: mm-kay and you say you take the hammer if you want to what the nail in? 662: Hit the nail {NW} Interviewer: What the nail in? 662: Draw the nail in {NW} {NW} Interviewer: And before they had um bathrooms inside the villas that they had outside they called a 662: Outhouses Interviewer: Any other name for that? 662: Outhouses hmm outdoor toilets Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear any joking names or sort of crude names? 662: {NW} yes {NW} I prefer not to say what it is though. {NW} Aux: {NW} Interviewer: What about a building that could be used for storing wood? 662: A wood shed. Interviewer: Okay what about tools? 662: #1 # Aux: #2 # 662: #1 A tool shed # Aux: #2 Tool shed # 662: #1 That's what my husband has. # Aux: #2 {NW} # Interviewer: What different buildings would they have on a farm? 662: On a farm? The thing that comes to my mind first is a barn. Interviewer: mm-hmm What would be kept in the barn? 662: Just about everything down here. Aux: pig tools Interviewer: Did did you grow up around a a farm? 662: No Interviewer: You always lived right 662: Right in town #1 in Thibodaux. # Interviewer: #2 Wait # wait your you were born here and then you moved to Thibodaux? 662: To Thibodaux right now I am back over here again Interviewer: That is a pretty French area isn't it? I mean the 662: Oh yeah everything is French down here. Interviewer: Your parents spoke spoke French you said. 662: mm-hmm Aux: mm-hmm Interviewer: And your grandparents just spoke French. 662: Right Interviewer: What about um the name Schriever sounds German to me do you know if it is or not? 662: I don't know where the name Schriever came from really. {NW} I know Thibodaux was named after scholar Thibodaux you know who founded the little town but I don't know how Schriever got it's name really. Interviewer: Well the way 662: Well Schriever first was first a farm project you know Interviewer: What do you mean? 662: Well a lot of people would lease property and uh they would farm out here and then then they got a little bit bigger and a little bit bigger but mostly it was a farm project first Interviewer: The people who who live here if they need to do some shopping or something they just go into Thibodaux. 662: Right Interviewer: Don't they? I mean this is it's the same parish as {X} but it's 662: Right Interviewer: It is really closer. 662: We are closer to Lafourche Parish. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: In Thibodaux I mean you know that's where all of our money is spent in Thibodaux. Interviewer: yeah 662: mostly. Interviewer: This is then right just on the Parish Parish line. 662: Yeah right it's close to it. Interviewer: um What different animals would they have on the farm? 662: cows horses pigs chickens ducks Interviewer: Where would they keep the cows? 662: {NW} Out in the field and bring it in the barn at night I guess. Interviewer: uh huh What about the horses? Where would they stay? 662: Well they would graze out their in the field to and come back in the barn at night. Interviewer: uh huh and the hog the pigs 662: #1 Well the pigs usually are in a pig pen. # Aux: #2 in a pig- # Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And the chickens usually have a chicken house. Interviewer: What about a place just for the mother just for the uh mother hen and the little chicks? You know a little small place just for the? 662: Well down here usually chickens are just like in the little yard all of their own you know. With with with a fence made out of what they call chicken wire. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And then they have a little small house for the hens to lay in and everything. Interviewer: Well what about something that maybe would be built kind of pointed up like this just a small thing for shutting the little chicks up in. 662: I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a chicken cub or coop? 662: a chicken coop yeah. yeah Interviewer: What would that be built like? 662: uh would be a chicken coop it would be like a small room and um they'd have like nests built up about three feet from the ground and it would have hay in it straw in it you know for the chickens to ah lay their eggs. Interviewer: mm-hmm and it would just be for laying. 662: That's what I think of a chicken coop. I don't you know I might be wrong I don't know I am not too familiar with farm animals. Interviewer: And a hen on a nest of eggs you call her a? 662: A hen on a nest of eggs? Interviewer: uh huh you know whose waiting for the eggs to hatch would be a? 662: She'd be a hen. Interviewer: Well did you ever hear of a setting hen or? 662: Oh yeah yeah Setting hen. Interviewer: okay and something um you could put to get a hen to start laying something you could put in her nest? 662: Now I remember that my aunt had one she used to have a glass egg. Interviewer: uh huh 662: And it would look just like a real egg. I think it was glass or porcelain or something like that. Interviewer: What about if you had a real good set of dishes they would be made out of? 662: China Interviewer: What about an egg made out of that? 662: An egg made out of china? Interviewer: mm-hmm It wouldn't be a glass egg then it would be a? 662: {NW} I don't know . I don't know what you call it. An egg made of china. Interviewer: uh-huh It would just be a china? 662: A china egg? That doesn't sound right does it? An egg made of china. Interviewer: And you know when you are eating chicken there is a bone that goes like this. 662: A wish bone. Interviewer: uh-huh Any other name for that? 662: Just the wish bone. Interviewer: Did you ever hear any um sort of superstitions about that or? 662: Yeah you each one wraps its little finger around each side the one they break it the one that gets the longest piece they would first you make a wish and if you get the longest piece your wish comes true. Interviewer: mm-hmm And um a place where where you could store corn that would be called a? 662: A bin I guess Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear of a corn barn or a crib? 662: I have heard of it but it I don't think it is used down here too much. Interviewer: What have you heard of? 662: Mostly it is in stories Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Corn crib Interviewer: What about a a place for storing grain did you ever of a? 662: A a silo. Interviewer: mm-hmm what about a grainery or granary? You ever hear of any? 662: No. Interviewer: And the upper part of the barn where you could store the hay? 662: Loft Interviewer: And um you know when um when you first cut the hay you know and it's you let it dry out in the field. Did you rake it up in little piles? Did you ever hear a name for those little piles? 662: Hay stack Interviewer: uh huh Wha- what's a hay stack like? 662: It's just a mound of hay. Interviewer: mm-hmm It's something that with a hole in the center or? 662: No just piled up and just a mound of hay. I've never seen one but I you know other than in stories television what have you. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a a hay shock or hay tumble? 662: No Interviewer: cock or anything 662: uh-uh Interviewer: And um did you ever hear of any other way of keeping the hay outside besides the hay stack? 662: The only thing I have ever seen is the little machines that come along and neatly bundle them and wire and everything else and you have bails of hay. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about um you know when when you cut the hay off a piece of land and then enough will grow back again so you can cut it again that year? What would you call that? 662: I don't know. A second crop. Interviewer: mm-kay and um a place where you would turn the the cows out to graze? There would be a? 662: A pasture Interviewer: And do you ever hear see a fenced in place out in the pasture where you could leave the cows over night for milking them? 662: uh uh Interviewer: Did you ever think of a milk gap or 662: #1 No # Interviewer: #2 a cow pin? # 662: uh uh Interviewer: And the place around the barn the fenced in place around the barn where the animals can walk around? 662: I'm thinking of a corral I don't know if that would be the same thing. Interviewer: What is a corral like? 662: A corral when you think of a corral you think of horses enclosed by a fence. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And that would be close to a barn too. Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear of a cow lot or a barn yard? 662: No A barn yard. The barn yard would be in general the barn yard though. As far as I am concerned you know. I'm not famil- Interviewer: The barn yard something around it would be the barn? 662: Yeah to me in my eyes it wouldn't necessarily have to be enclosed. Interviewer: uh-huh 662: You know? Interviewer: Just just that area. 662: Yeah the general area right. Interviewer: And um say if you planted a just a small area of say sweet potatoes you'd refer to that as a sweet potato? 662: Patch Interviewer: What else would grow in a patch like what other kind of patch can you have besides a sweet potato patch? 662: Strawberry patch Blackberry patch anything would be a patch because it would be a small area. Interviewer: And what different kinds of fences um did people used to have? 662: Wood Interviewer: mm-hmm How what kind of fence would you have around your yard? 662: Now y- you you mean like a picket fence? Interviewer: mm-hmm What's a picket fence? 662: Pickett fence is a small slats of wood. Interviewer: mm-hmm Is it pointed? 662: Pointed at the end. Interviewer: mm-hmm How's is it woven together or nailed together? 662: It's nailed together and most of the time the design is saw tooth at the top. It is in different lengths. Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear of that called the tail end fence? 662: uh-uh Interviewer: What about the kinda of wire fence they have around the pasture now a days? {NW} 662: Nowadays? Interviewer: Yeah it would catch your crows on it. 662: Oh a barbed wire fence. Interviewer: uh huh and if you wanted to put up a barbed wire fence you'd have to dig holes for the 662: For the posts. Interviewer: And you'd take the the wire and nail it to the 662: To the posts. Interviewer: mm-kay and um Talking about several of those you'd be talking about several? 662: Posts Interviewer: mm-kay um What about a fence that went in and out like this? 662: Basket weave. Interviewer: No it's it's made out of wood the real old fashion kind. 662: I don't I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a a worm fence or a rail fence or? 662: Oh a rail fence yeah. Interviewer: uh huh 662: That would be like small logs. Interviewer: uh huh 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: Did they used to have those in this area? 662: uh I- I don't know I think so I'm not really sure. Interviewer: What about um you know uh um a big farm uh now a days where they have a lot of um milked cows and they? 662: A dairy farm? Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever hear that word dairy used to mean anything else besides a commercial farm? 662: Dairy products. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about um a place where where you used to keep where people used to keep milk and butter before they had refrigerators? Did you ever hear of people talk about that? 662: Before they had refrigerators? Uh uh no Interviewer: And what about potatoes and turnips? They'd be stored in the winter. Did you ever hear? 662: uh uh No Interviewer: And did you ever see a fence or wall made out of loose rock or stone that you could get from the field? 662: A wall made with that? Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: {NW} Yeah I have seen a stone wall. Interviewer: mm-hmm Do they have those around here? 662: No not really. Interviewer: What about um you know when your um if you wanted to to plant something to break up the ground to get it read for planting? 662: Plow it. Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever hear um of different kinds of plows people used to use? 662: No Interviewer: What about something that had a lot of teeth in it and would break up the the clots of dirt break up the ground finer than a plower would? 662: The only thing I know that would have teeth and it would be a rake. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: But that wouldn't be a large are Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a {D: hara} or harrow 662: mm Interviewer: What about um you know when you are plowing the the trenches where they are cut by the plow you call those the? 662: I don't know what you'd call it. Interviewer: Well you know the the deep sort of the ditch thing that it cuts. That would be the? 662: I I don't know I really don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a fur 662: uh-uh Interviewer: Fur? 662: No Interviewer: What about um you know the um some of these questions they they might not be. 662: I'm really not familiar with farm terms too much. Interviewer: Um I am just going to go ahead and ask you. 662: Yeah Interviewer: just in case in case you have ever heard of 662: It's sad how we don't know that much about you know things that were not too many years ago right? Sad Interviewer: um Did you ever well I know they didn't raise cotton in this area. 662: No Interviewer: Is sugar cane um when they used to um you'd have to get out there with the hoe and sort of I don't know if they would exactly thin it out or do try to kill the grass thats that's growing up there. Did you ever what would they say they were doing when they'd get out there with the hoe? They'd say they were going to? 662: To get rid of the the you mean the weeds? Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: It would be weeding it Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear them talk about um chopping it or scraping it? 662: Of with a hoe yes scraping it. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about chopping did you ever hear that? 662: Chopping the dirt yeah. Interviewer: uh huh um what what different kinds of grass would be growing up in the? 662: The only thing that I can think of is Johnson grass. Interviewer: What does that look like? 662: uh It gets tall Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: and I've never seen wheat up close you know just in pictures but it kind of has the characteristics of wheat you know it has like a bloom it it's green and then right in the middle is like a bloom and it has like little uh greens on it. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about the that flower sort of that they that yellow flower I see it everywhere you know? 662: The ones that are blooming right now? I don't know what you call that I know there's some that comes out later in the spring they call railroad daisy's Interviewer: Railroad daisy's? 662: uh huh Interviewer: Do they have to kill those? 662: Yeah Interviewer: I guess they would they 662: Yeah Interviewer: they can't let anything else grow there. 662: Everything looks pretty clean by the time it's time for planting. They clean it up pretty good. Interviewer: um What did people used to use to carry water in? 662: A bucket Interviewer: Made out of what? 662: Wood Interviewer: mm-kay What about something they would use for milking? 662: A milk pail. Interviewer: mm-kay What's a milk pail made out of? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Is it wood? 662: Um I imagine metal. Interviewer: mm-hmm You think of a bucket and pail being two different things or? 662: Well it's not too different things it is just like you would a it's association I guess you think of a milk pail and you think of a bucket for water you know. Interviewer: What about the thing they've used to carry food out to the hogs in? 662: I don't know I know they'd say they'd go slop the hogs that's what they'd say they do when they go feed them go slop the hogs. Interviewer: Did you ever hear it called a slop bucket or slop pail? 662: slop bucket Interviewer: uh huh And something you could use for frying eggs in? You'd call that a? 662: Skillet Interviewer: What would that be made out of? 662: Metal Interviewer: mm-hmm The heavy iron? 662: Cast iron Interviewer: uh huh um did you ever hear of a something like that only it has little legs on it you can cook in the fireplace with it 662: I know what you are talking about those big black iron pots Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Those kettles like that's what they call a kettle with a iron handle the wire handle. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of something called a a spider? 662: uh-uh I'm not familiar with that. Interviewer: And if you cut some flowers and wanted to keep them in the house you'd put them in a? 662: Vase Interviewer: And if you were setting the table for people to eat with you'd give everyone a? Next to each plate you'd give everyone a? 662: A fork and a knife. Interviewer: And a? 662: Spoon whatever's necessary {NW} {NW} pizza nothing {NW} Interviewer: And if you serve steak and it wasn't very tender you might have to put out steak? 662: Knives Interviewer: And if the dishes were dirty you'd say I have to? 662: Wash the dishes. Interviewer: And after she washes the dishes then she? 662: Dries the dishes Interviewer: or 662: picks 'em up Interviewer: In clear water she? 662: Rinses the dishes. Interviewer: mm-kay What about the cloth or rag you use when you are washing dishes? 662: A dish towel or a dish rag. Interviewer: and the cloth or rag you use to bathe your face with? 662: A face rag. Interviewer: And to dry yourself off with? 662: A towel. Interviewer: And something that um if you wanted to pour something from a big container into something with a mirror amount to keep it from spilling out you'd pour it through a like if you wanted to pour something into a coke bottle or something you'd? 662: Oh a funnel? Interviewer: mm-kay And nowadays if you were carrying clothes out to hang them on the line you'd carry them out in a clothes? 662: Clothes basket. Interviewer: And if the lamp wasn't burning you'd have to screw in a new? 662: Light bulb Interviewer: mm-kay and um you mentioned um people raise raise sugarcane around here what do they make with the sugarcane? 662: Sugar both white and brown sugar syrup Interviewer: What about something similar to the syrup? 662: You thinking of that la cuite. Interviewer: What's that? 662: It's it's like syrup but it it crystallizes. I guess its a the process they must stop at a certain process or something. Interviewer: They call that? 662: La cuite L-A-C-U-I-T-E I believe that's how it's spelled. Interviewer: What about um black strap? 662: Molasses? Interviewer: uh huh What's the difference between molasses and syrup? 662: Molasses is darker thicker. Interviewer: Did you ever hear um that called long sweetening or short sweetening? 662: uh uh Interviewer: What about um say if you wanted to buy molasses what would it come in? 662: A can Interviewer: Did you ever hear that called a stand of molasses? 662: uh uh Interviewer: or stand of lard? 662: No Interviewer: What about um you know when they take they take the sugarcane and they grind it to get the juice out what do they call that stuff that they have left over once they've ground? 662: Bagasse Interviewer: mm-kay Did they do anything with that or not? 662: Make paper Interviewer: They did? 662: Paper products. The newspaper in Thibodeaux is made of bagasse. Interviewer: huh Is it just the same as as any other kind of? Can you tell the difference between? 662: No uh-uh They made paper products from bagasse and it is also used for flower beds it's supposed to make a good mulch too Interviewer: um and something that um that nails used to come in? 662: Keg Interviewer: mm-kay And something bigger than a keg that? 662: A barrel Interviewer: mm-kay and the thing that runs around the barrel to keep the wood in place? 662: Bands Interviewer: Or another name for that? 662: I would just call it bands that is the only thing I can think of Interviewer: What about hoops or {D: houps}? 662: It is it it's hoops but I wouldn't associate I always think of bands something that goes around. Interviewer: Yeah 662: You know Interviewer: What about um did you ever see a water barrel or a water keg? 662: A water barrel? Or a water keg? I have seen barrels that hold rain water. Interviewer: mm-hmm Well do you know um or maybe a beer keg or something you know the the thing that you can turn to get the water or beer or whatever out of? 662: The spigot Interviewer: mm-kay What about something like that out in your yard that you can hook your hose to and turn and get? 662: Faucet Interviewer: mm-kay And what about at your sink? 662: That's the faucet. Interviewer: mm-kay and um say well this this would be before your time but I'm gonna ask you um you know if you took corn to the mill to be ground did you ever hear people um how would they refer to the amount of corn that they could take at one time? 662: I don't know. Interviewer: Did you ever hear the expression a turn of corn? 662: uh uh Interviewer: What about if someone went out and got as much wood as he could carry in both his arm? he'd say he had a? 662: He had a load. {NW} Interviewer: Or an arm? 662: An armful Interviewer: mm-kay And you'd say on a wagon that didn't have a full load of wood he just had a? a what of wood? 662: If he didn't have a full load of wood? Interviewer: Yeah if not a full load of wood on his wagon he just had a? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of the expression a jag of wood? 662: uh-uh Interviewer: And something um nowadays if you went to the store and bought something the grocer would put it in a? 662: A bag Interviewer: Made out of? 662: paper Interviewer: And um something that that flower used to come in? If you bought maybe 25 pounds of flower. 662: A sack Interviewer: mm-kay That'd be made out of? 662: Burlap or a not burlap a material Interviewer: just cloth you mean? 662: Cotton material Interviewer: mm-hmm What did they call those um things made out of burlap? Any special name for them? 662: Just a burlap sack Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear of croker sack or toe sack or gunny sack? 662: Down here it's burlap sack Interviewer: okay and um if you opened a bottle and then wanted to close it back up so that the liquid wouldn't spill out you could stick in a? 662: A stopper Interviewer: Made out of? 662: Cork Interviewer: okay And something that um you could play you blow on it like this 662: Harmonica Interviewer: Any other name for that? 662: Mouth organ Interviewer: mm-kay What about something like this? 662: Oh I know what you are talking about I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear juice 662: uh-uh Interviewer: juice harp? 662: uh-uh Interviewer: And say it's um there's a log across the road you say I tied a chain to it and I what it out of the way? 662: Pulled it out of the way. Interviewer: Or using another word you'd say I 662: Moved it out of the way Interviewer: Or talking about dragging you say I 662: Oh you drug it out of the way. Interviewer: mm-kay And you say we have what many logs out of this road? We have? 662: We have dragged drug I don't know {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Which sounds more natural to you? 662: We have Interviewer: to say 662: Drug Interviewer: mm-kay and you say you have to a a tie a chain around it to 662: Pull it Interviewer: or to 662: Drag it Interviewer: mm-kay and um say if a if a man had a load of wood on his wagon and he was driving along you'd say that he was? Doing what? 662: That he was driving along? Interviewer: Well Yeah he say he goes to the wood pile and he fills the wagon up and then he goes to his house and unloads it goes back for more you say that he's? 662: I'd say he's busy {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Okay would you say he is carting wood or hauling wood? 662: I don't know {NW} I know I don't know I'd just say he was busy that's all. {NW} Interviewer: What about hauling wood or drawing wood? 662: Hauling wood Interviewer: huh? 662: Hauling Interviewer: mm-kay And um if you have a wagon and two horses the long wooden piece that comes between the horses 662: {NW} I don't know {NW} I don't know Interviewer: What about um just on a a child's wagon you know the the handle. Did you ever hear of? 662: No I don't know of any other word for that. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a the tongue of a wagon or a pole or sphere? 662: uh-uh Interviewer: What about um you have a horse pulling a buggy you before you {X} you back them between the. Do you know what I mean? There's the two wooden things then you back the horse between. 662: I know what you are talking about but I don't know what they called. Interviewer: mm-kay And on a of the wheels the thing that runs across and holds one wheel to the other. That's called a? We have it even on a a 662: On an axle. Interviewer: mm-kay and you know on on the wagon wheel the inside of the wheel you have the hub 662: hub Interviewer: and the spokes come out and they fit into the 662: Onto the wheel. Interviewer: uh huh But what would you call that? They come out from the hub then what do you call that part they fit in? But what do you call the part of the wheel that touches the ground? 662: The wheel. Interviewer: mm-kay And um you know when a horse it hitched to a wagon the bar of wood that the trace is backed on to. Did you ever do you know what I mean? 662: You going back to the tongue again? Interviewer: Um with the you have a bar of wood like this and the traces come back and fasten onto the? 662: uh-uh I I don't even know anything about that. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a singletree or? 662: uh-uh uh-uh Interviewer: um doubletree? 662: uh-uh {NW} On to a Cypress tree oak tree maple. {NW} Interviewer: What about um if someone wanted to chop a log they could take a x frame like this you know drive things into the ground and make the make a x frame you set the log into chop it. What would you call that? 662: I wouldn't know Interviewer: What about something um they could have like something like this 662: That's an A frame Interviewer: uh huh You'd call that a? Did you ever hear of a saw horse or saw buck or wood rack? 662: Oh a saw horse yeah Interviewer: mm-hmm Is the saw horse the the A frame 662: Yeah it's it's an A frame Interviewer: mm-hmm And something you'd put in a pistol you'd call that a? 662: Bullet Interviewer: Or another name for that? 662: Round Interviewer: Or you know in the um the kind of ink pen that has the can you think of ink that you put in it you know? 662: Cartridge Interviewer: mm-kay And you straighten your hair using a comb and a? 662: Brush Interviewer: And if you were gonna use that you'd say you were going to? 662: Brush my hair. Interviewer: And um what they used to have to sharpen a straight razor they'd call that a leather? 662: Strap Interviewer: What about something that's um smaller then the small thing that you could sharpen a small knife on? 662: A stone Interviewer: mm-kay What kind of stone? 662: A wet stone Interviewer: What about something bigger that you could sharpen an ax on that would turn around? 662: Oh a a grinding stone. Interviewer: mm-kay And something that children play on they take a board and 662: See-saw Interviewer: And if you saw some children playing on that you'd say they were? 662: See-sawing Interviewer: And um did you ever see anybody take a board and fix it down at both ends and children would jump up and down on it? Sorta like a trampoline I guess. 662: No Interviewer: Did you ever hear of {D: joblin board} or? 662: No Interviewer: And say you could take a board and and fix it um in the center and it spin around you call that a? 662: A merry-go-round Interviewer: mm-kay Any old fashion name for that? 662: No Interviewer: And you could tie a long rope to a tree limb put a seat on it and make a? 662: Swing Interviewer: And something that um you could use for moving bricks or something heavy? It has a little wheel in front and two handles. 662: A wheelbarrow. Interviewer: And something that um people used to use to carry coal in? Did did they ever burn coal? 662: Oh Interviewer: Did they ever burn coal around here? 662: Ah not that I know of. Interviewer: What about you know on those old fashioned stoves the thing that would come up and run from the stove to the chimney? 662: I don't know. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a stove pipe or funnel or flue? 662: A stove pipe. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about um the thing people drive now days you call that a? 662: Car Interviewer: Any other name for car? 662: Automobile Interviewer: And if something was squeaky to lubricate you'd say you had to? 662: Oil it Interviewer: Or you put the hard stuff on it you had to? 662: Grease it Interviewer: mm-kay and you say yesterday he? 662: Greased Interviewer: mm-kay And if grease got all over your hands you'd say your hands were all? 662: Greasy Interviewer: And something that people used to burn in lamps? 662: Kerosene Interviewer: mm-kay Any other name for that? 662: Coal oil Interviewer: And did you ever hear of people making a lamp using a rag and a bottle and some kerosene? 662: A rag and a bottle and Interviewer: you know they they take the bottle 662: The only thing I can think of is a molotov cock- {NW} Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a flambeau? 662: uh uh I've heard of flambeaus yeah. Interviewer: As what's a flambeau? 662: That's what they carry in the parades in New Orleans in Mardi Gras parades but the flambeaus you see are the um it's I don't now I don't know what it's made of but it's a long pole it's like a T and Interviewer: #1 It's like a what? # 662: #2 then the flames. # It's it's shaped in a T. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And flames are shooting out from the top I don't know what what it's made of. That's what they'd call the flambeau carriers. Interviewer: huh 662: In the Mardi Gras parades. Interviewer: What about um inside the tire of the car? 662: Inner- inner tube Interviewer: mm-kay And if someone had just built a boat and they were going to put it in the water for the first time you'd say they were going to? 662: Launch it Interviewer: What different kind of boats do they have around here? 662: Lafitte skiffs Interviewer: The what? 662: Lafitte skiffs Interviewer: What's a Lafitte skiff? 662: It's a flat boat that a lot of shrimpers use Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: and it's wide. You have down here you have pleasure boats you have pleasure boats of all kinds you have um Pirogues. Interviewer: mm-hmm What do they look like? 662: Pirogues are very small and narrow and you really have to have your balance to stay afloat. Interviewer: Are they pointed at both ends? 662: They pointed. And then you have your Joe boats. Interviewer: Your what? 662: Joe boats Interviewer: What's a Joe boat? 662: A Joe boat is a flat bottom boat with um squared off nose. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Now other people will call them Jon boats but down here they call them Joe boats. Interviewer: huh How's that different from the skiff? 662: Oh well Joe boats are a just plain you know a pleasure fishing boats. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And a and a skiff is used by your shrimpers. It doesn't have high sides and everything so they can pull the trolls over and and work. Interviewer: The the the skiff doesn't? 662: The skiff doesn't no. Interviewer: Is this you said Lafitte skiff? 662: Lafitte skiff Interviewer: Is that a specific kind of skiff? A certain 662: A certain kind of skiff uh huh It's it's the style. Interviewer: mm-hmm Is it a brand or? 662: No it's the style. Like a catamaran well this would be a Lafitte skiff and they come in all sizes. Interviewer: uh huh So Lafitte was a pirate wasn't he? 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: Um say a child was just learning to dress himself the mother would bring him the clothes and tell him? 662: To get dressed Interviewer: Or here 662: Here's your clothes. Interviewer: mm-kay and if you were taking a child to the dentist and he was scared the dentist might tell him um you don't need to be scared I what gonna hurt you? I 662: I'm not gonna hurt you. Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever say I ain't gonna hurt you? 662: mm-hmm sometimes I guess Interviewer: How would you say that? 662: Well down here we don't say we don't say I too much either we say ah Interviewer: uh huh 662: A-H I ain't gonna do this and I ain't gonna do that. Interviewer: uh huh 662: I ain't gonna {NW} Interviewer: You say um ain't much yourself? 662: I don't not too much Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: At lest I am not aware of it you know. Interviewer: What about um say if I ask you was that you I saw in town yesterday you might say no it? 662: {NS} No it wasn't I Interviewer: mm-kay we generally say no it wasn't me. 662: No it wasn't me. Most of all I just say no. Interviewer: {NW} And if a women wanted to buy a dress of a certain color she'd take along a little square of cloth and use it as a? 662: A sample Interviewer: mm-kay And something um say she sees a dress she likes very much she'd say that dress is very? 662: Pretty Interviewer: And does very pretty she'd say the dress was just? 662: Beautiful Interviewer: And something that she could wear over her dress in the kitchen? 662: An Apron Interviewer: And to sign your name in ink you'd use a? 662: Pen Interviewer: And to hold a baby's diaper in place? 662: Pin Interviewer: And something that um kind of a metal that uh well soup you buy comes in a can made out of? 662: Tin Interviewer: mm-kay And a dime is worth? 662: ten cents Interviewer: And say if I ask you if you know a person you might say no I don't know 'em but I what {X} I? 662: I've heard of 'em Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever hear hear you tell of them? 662: uh uh Interviewer: and um say it's something that you do everyday if I ask you do you do it frequently you'd say yes I? 662: Yes I do it often. Interviewer: okay And if you are asking me if he does that sorta of thing you'd say? 662: Does he do it often? Interviewer: mm-kay And you'd say well I don't smoke cigarettes but he? 662: Smokes Interviewer: You say 662: #1 He does # Interviewer: #2 {X} # huh 662: He does Interviewer: mm-kay And you say well I don't know if he did that or not but people. 662: People say he does. Interviewer: mm-kay And say if I ask you about something you say well I think that's right but I'm not? 662: Sure Interviewer: And um something that a man would wear to church on Sunday? 662: Suit Interviewer: And if he just bought it it would be a brand? 662: New suit Interviewer: And do you remember when they had a three piece suit? 662: The vest the pants and the coat. Interviewer: mm-hmm Any other name for pants? 662: Trousers Interviewer: mm-kay What about something a man would wear if he was working out around the barn? 662: Coveralls Interviewer: Do coveralls have sleeves to them or? 662: No Interviewer: One way you would 662: Coveralls yeah I guess it could. You have different variations of a coverall. You have the all in one with the sleeves and then you have the ones that just have the little strap and the bib. Interviewer: mm-hmm Any other name for the one with just the strap and the bib? 662: No Interviewer: Did you ever hear over? 662: Overalls Interviewer: uh huh Is that different from the coveralls or? 662: Not that I know of. Interviewer: mm-hmm And if if you went outside without your coat and you were getting cold and you wanted it you'd say? Would you run inside and 662: Get my coat. Interviewer: And what it to me? and 662: Bring it to me Interviewer: mm-kay So you'd say so then you went in 662: Got the coat and brought it to Interviewer: #1 mm-kay # 662: #2 me # Interviewer: And you say here I have? 662: Brought Interviewer: mm-kay and you say that coat won't fit this year but last year it 662: Fit Interviewer: mm-kay And if you stuff a lot of things in your pocket it makes them? It makes them stick out you say it makes them? 662: Bulge Interviewer: mm-kay And {NW} you say that shirt used to fit me until I washed it and it? 662: Shrunk Interviewer: And every shirt I've washed recently has? 662: Shrunk Interviewer: And I hope this new shirt won't? 662: Shrink Interviewer: And if a woman like to um likes to put on good clothes you'd say she likes to? 662: Dress up Interviewer: Would you say that about a man? 662: Yeah Interviewer: What about if she likes to you know stand in front of the mirror and 662: Primp Interviewer: uh huh Do men do that? 662: Yeah nowadays they do {NW} Interviewer: What would you call a man who primps a lot? 662: Nowadays? Interviewer: Yeah 662: Fashion conscious I believe. Interviewer: What about a a back then? what 662: Sissy Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear the term jelly bee? 662: uh-uh Interviewer: For a man who primps. 662: uh-uh #1 never # Interviewer: #2 and # something that um you could carry your money in? 662: Purse Interviewer: mm-kay What about the little leather container that has a clasp on it? Would you call that a purse too for coins? 662: Oh the coin purse Interviewer: mm-hmm And something that a women would wear around her wrist? 662: A watch Interviewer: Or 662: #1 Bracelet # Interviewer: #2 okay # And say if you had a lot of little things um strung up together you put around your neck you'd call that a? 662: Beads Interviewer: mm-kay You'd call that a what of beads? 662: Strand Interviewer: mm-kay And something that you'd hold over you when it rains? 662: Umbrella Interviewer: And something that men used to wear to hold up their pants? 662: Suspenders Interviewer: mm-kay Any other name for them? 662: For suspenders? Interviewer: Did you ever hear of galluses? 662: uh-uh Interviewer: What about um the last thing that you put on a bed you know the fancy cover? 662: The bed spread Interviewer: Any um old fashioned kinds or did you ever see people make them themselves? 662: Quilts Interviewer: mm-hmm But but what about a quilt that uh something like a quilt only it's not not really quilted together it's just sort of tacked together you call that a? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a comfort or county pin counter pin? 662: I've heard of a comforter yeah Interviewer: What's a comforter like? 662: A comforter is lighter it's it's quilted but it's light it is usually made out of light airy Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: material where a quilt would be heavier. Interviewer: What it is it you say it's quilted together just? 662: The comforters I've had Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: would be you know would still be quilted. Interviewer: It is just not as heavy. 662: Yeah I'm working on a quilt right now. Interviewer: You make quilts? 662: W- the clubs making one. {NW} Interviewer: What? 662: We have a quilting bee every week. Interviewer: Like the home home 662: Home demonstration club mm-hmm Interviewer: huh Can you make the real fancy kind? 662: The one that we making right now is ah it's not it's cute it's not the real fancy one though they call it the shoofly pattern. And the middle square is your solid material and each member that worked on it embroiders her name on there so ah after we finish with the quilt we gonna raffle it off and whoever's gonna win it is gonna see who worked on it you know the names are gonna be on it. Interviewer: How long is it gonna take y'all? 662: Seems like it's gonna take forever. It should take us about another month and a half cause we are quilting right now and that's Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: That's done by hand. Well everything has been done by hand. Interviewer: Do you have the quilting frame and everything? 662: We using a frame that is over a hundred years old right now. Interviewer: Gosh Do you enjoy quilting? 662: I love it. It's so relaxing. Except when you get knots at the bottom.{NS: phone rings} Interviewer: Is this your brother? 662: Jimmy's brother my brother-n-law {NW} Interviewer: And on the bed at the head of the bed? 662: The bolster oh the headboard Interviewer: What's the bolster? 662: A bolster that's a big long pillow instead of having two pillows you have one big long pillow. You ever see those? Interviewer: I don't I don't think so. I've heard of them but I don't think I have ever seen one. How far across do they go? 662: Across from one end of the bed to the other across. Interviewer: And something say if you had a lot of children had a lot of company over didn't have enough beds for everyone for the children you could make a? 662: Make a bed on the floor. Interviewer: And you'd call that a? 662: I'd call it roughing it {NW} I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a pallet or {D:shake down} 662: uh uh Interviewer: And talk about different kinds of land you'd say? We expect a big crop from that field because the soil is very? 662: Fertile Interviewer: What different kinds of of land do you have on a farm? 662: Different kinds of land? I don't know. Interviewer: Well what about the the flat land that's along the river? If it gets overflowed? 662: Delta Interviewer: What else? What's a delta like? 662: The delta is the like you just said when the river would overflow. Well that was years ago before they made the big levees and everything and when the river would over flow it would deposit you know rich soil and everything Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: into that land. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a intervals or low land or bottom land? 662: I've heard of low lands. Interviewer: mm-hmm #1 What are low lands? # 662: #2 Would be marsh. # Interviewer: huh? 662: Marsh Interviewer: #1 What's the marsh? # 662: #2 Marsh lands # Like well it would be like swamps with out the trees. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: you know Interviewer: Fresh water or salt water? 662: Well you could have ah brackish water in low lands. Low lands is usually brackish water to me that would be a combination of both. Interviewer: What what do you mean brackish water? salt 662: Salt and fresh. mm-hmm Interviewer: What about um uh a field that might be good for raising hay but not much else? Did you have a special name for that? 662: Not that I know of. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a meadow or prairie or? 662: I've heard of meadow. Interviewer: What's a meadow? 662: A meadow to me is a pretty is a pretty piece of scenery where you see the wildflowers grow and an occasional tree ya know. Interviewer: uh huh Is this something that you read about? 662: Right Interviewer: And say if you had um what different kinds of soil? What would you call the real rich black soil? 662: Black Jack Interviewer: What's black jack? 662: That's the black soil that's what they call black jack down here. Interviewer: Is it good for growing things? 662: No I don't know wait a minute now black jack I think it is. Interviewer: What other kinds of soil? Besides the black jack. 662: Sandy soil Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear of anything called loam or {D: lume}? 662: uh uh Interviewer: What about um say if you had some land that was swampy and you wanted to get the the water off the land you'd say you were going to? Do what to it? 662: Drain it Interviewer: mm-kay What would you dig to drain the water off? 662: Trench Interviewer: And something um say if you had a heavy rain the water cut out a little what would you call that? 662: Gully Interviewer: mm-kay What about something is a gully very big? 662: I don't think it would be big Interviewer: What about something real big? 662: A valley Interviewer: Well that the rain 662: Oh rain Interviewer: cut out 662: {NW} The only thing I can think of is erosion. Interviewer: mm-kay Well would you call it a a ravine or gully or {D: calla} 662: I would call it a gully. Interviewer: mm-kay what no matter what size it is? 662: Right Interviewer: What about um something that {NW} if you have some some water flowing along you'd call that a? 662: Water flowing along? Interviewer: That would be just a little? 662: Creek Interviewer: mm-kay What else besides a creek? 662: Stream Interviewer: What was that? 662: Stream Interviewer: What's the difference between a creek and a stream? 662: A stream is bigger. Interviewer: What else besides what? 662: Down here a bayou Interviewer: #1 What's a bayou? # 662: #2 canal # Interviewer: uh huh Is a canal something natural or is it man made? 662: Uh both Interviewer: mm-hmm What about the bayou? 662: The bayou is natural. Interviewer: Is is it about the same size as the canal or? 662: It can be. It can be larger it can be smaller a canal can be larger or smaller it all depends on what it is. Interviewer: How does the bayou compare with the creek? 662: um Bayou is bigger it's deeper it's wider Interviewer: How deep is a bayou usually? 662: A bayou is usually I imagine about anywhere between fifteen to twenty feet deep or maybe deeper you know. Now I'm in some areas because of man kind some bayous are about three feet deep now others are just dried you know in a dry spell waiting for the rain to come along and fill it up a little bit. Interviewer: What are the names of some of the bayou's or creeks or streams or around here? 662: Terrebonne bayou Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Bayou Lafourche Turtle bayou um I can't think of any. Oh Grand Bayou. What else? I don't know. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of Bayou {D: Shening} 662: uh uh Interviewer: Maybe that was something up near Baton Rouge. 662: Oh Interviewer: Spill way or something. 662: I don't know I'm not there's there's this that's why it's called the bayou state that's why they have it on our license plates because boy they have some bayous over here. {NW} Interviewer: What about creeks are there any creeks around here? 662: Not really Either it's a ditch or a bayou or a canal in Louisiana. Or a river. Interviewer: uh huh Does a ditch have water flowing in it or? 662: mm-hmm It could Interviewer: What about what about the rivers what different rivers? 662: Mississippi Atchafalaya Pearl River Oh I missed bayou Bara- Barataria Now that's a big bayou by Lafitte. I missed that one but the rivers is Atchafalaya Pearl River and Mississippi River. Interviewer: mm-hmm And say something uh um sort of a shallow arm of the sea what you know the salt water but it is not really in the ocean yet? What would that be? 662: It's salt water #1 But it's not # Interviewer: #2 Well it's not really # the ocean yet. It is just this sort of an inland. 662: You mean the estuaries? Interviewer: mm-kay What what are some of those? 662: Estuaries are where the shrimps born and things like that. It it's at the bottom part of the state close to the gulf and they are like protected and everything and they spawn there are then they go out into the gulf that's why estuaries are so important to Louisiana. Interviewer: Do do they have any special names or do you ever? I was wondering um if you ever heard of an inlet or bay or cove or? 662: Oh we thinking about two different things now. Yeah like a bay Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: That would be enclosed by land three quarters and then have an opening at the open water Interviewer: mm-hmm What about this es? 662: The estuaries? Well that's that um like I said the water conditions are just right and there like it would be like small bays #1 You know # Interviewer: #2 It's just sort of a # a stream type thing 662: No there there pretty big Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: and uh there like I said they're important to the shrimp industry. Interviewer: Do Do do these estuaries do they have any any names though #1 or they # 662: #2 uh uh # Interviewer: they just? 662: There are just called estuaries. Interviewer: And that's where the the shrimp 662: Spawn yeah right and it's sorta like protected you know. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: It would be like a miniature bay I guess you know. Interviewer: What about um if you had a stream flowing along and the water dropped off and went on over you'd call that a? 662: Waterfall Interviewer: And a place where boats dock? And where they unload the freight? 662: Dock Interviewer: Anything else besides a dock? 662: Wharf Interviewer: What's the difference 662: None that I know of. Interviewer: What about a small place just along a a river just sort of small boat? 662: Pier Interviewer: mm-kay And a small rise in land? You'd call that a? 662: Hill Interviewer: Any other names? 662: Mound Interviewer: What about um to open the door you'd take hold to the door? 662: Knob Interviewer: Would you ever use that word knob talking about land? 662: No Interviewer: And something a whole lot bigger than a hill would be a? {NS} 662: A mountain Interviewer: And the rocky side of the mountain that drops off real sharp? 662: Cliff Interviewer: And talking about several of those. You'd talk about several? 662: Cliffs Interviewer: And what different kinds of roads are there around here? 662: Horrible {NW} roads um black top cement dirt shell even board roads. Interviewer: Board roads? 662: Yeah they construct those to rig sites in the swamps. {NW} Construction companies go out ahead and make what they call board roads so that the equipment can move in and construct the oil rigs so that they can start drilling for oil and natural gas. Interviewer: What about um the black top road what's that made out of? 662: Asphalt Interviewer: mm-hmm And you mentioned the shell road what else can they put put on a road if they don't pave it? 662: If they don't pave it? Interviewer: Yeah those little rocks they call that a? 662: Gravel road Interviewer: uh huh And the little road that turns off the main road that'd be a? 662: Turns off the main road that's what we'd call a cut off Interviewer: mm-kay um what would you call just just a little road though? Not not one of the main roads. 662: A service road. Interviewer: And um a road that has a trees of fence on both sides of it? 662: Trees or fence? {NS} Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a lane? 662: Oh yeah Interviewer: What's that like? 662: It's it would be a shady road um country road Interviewer: uh huh 662: a lane. Interviewer: Would it be it would have to have trees on both sides though to be a lane? 662: You would uh Interviewer: I mean you'd associate it 662: Associate the trees with the lane. Interviewer: And a road in town would be called a? 662: Street Interviewer: And something along the side of the street for people to walk on? 662: A sidewalk or a banquette banquette banquette yeah banquette Interviewer: uh huh That's the old fashion name? 662: Yeah Interviewer: What about the strip of grass between the sidewalk and the street? 662: Strip of grass besides the sidewalk and the street? {C: whispered} I don't know Interviewer: And say if you were walking along and an animal jumped out and scared you. You'd say I picked up a? 662: Rock Interviewer: And I? 662: Threw it at it. Interviewer: uh huh Anything else you'd say besides threw it at it? 662: You'd say I hit him with it {NW} Interviewer: Would you ever say I chucked it at him or 662: uh uh Interviewer: Pitched it at him or? 662: Threw Interviewer: And um if you went to someones house and knocked on the door and no one answered you'd say well I guess they are not? 662: Home {NW} Interviewer: And if someone was walking your direction you'd say he's coming straight? 662: Toward me Interviewer: And if you went into town and happened to see someone that you hadn't counted on seeing you'd say this morning I just happened to run? 662: Into Interviewer: mm-kay And if a child is given the same name that her mother has you'd say they named the child what her mother? 662: After Interviewer: huh? 662: After of mother Interviewer: mm-kay And you'd say this morning I what breakfast at seven o'clock? 662: Fixed Interviewer: Or I? 662: Oh ate Interviewer: mm-kay {NW} And yesterday at that time I had already? 662: Eaten Interviewer: And tomorrow I will? 662: Eat Interviewer: And something that um that people drink for breakfast? 662: Take your pick {NW} orange juice coffee milk Interviewer: mm-kay And talk about uh coffee if you wanted some but there weren't any ready you'd say I guess I have to go? 662: Make some coffee. Interviewer: And tell me about putting milk in your coffee. You'd say some people like it how? 662: With milk in their coffee. Interviewer: mm-kay And other people like it? 662: Black Interviewer: mm-kay Any other name for black coffee? 662: No Interviewer: Did you ever hear of the expression drinking coffee barefooted? 662: uh uh Interviewer: And you'd tell a child now you can eat what's put before you or you can do? 662: Without Interviewer: And um something that um people eat for breakfast it's made out of ground up corn? 662: Corn flakes Interviewer: Or made out of ground up corn you eat it along with your eggs? 662: Oh grits {NW} Interviewer: What about something similar to grits only it's not ground up it's fine? 662: I don't know. Interviewer: It is something you could take it you'd soak it to and get the husks off the corn. Did you ever hear of hominy or fly corn? 662: I've always associated hominy with grits hominy grits Interviewer: mm-kay What about um this is something we don't eat it for breakfast but it's a it's a white grain um it grows in wet places it it grows in other areas of Louisiana? 662: Rice Interviewer: mm-kay And um say if you were real thirsty you might go over to the sink and pour yourself a? 662: Glass of water. Interviewer: And you'd say the glass fell off the sink and? 662: Broke Interviewer: So somebody has? 662: Broken the glass. Interviewer: And um talk about um distance you say well I don't know exactly how far it is but it's just a? A little? What? 662: I don't know what you are trying to say. Interviewer: Well #1 you say I don't # 662: #2 Just a little way # Interviewer: mm-kay And if you had been traveling and still had about five hundred miles to go you'd say you? 662: You has a good way to go. Interviewer: mm-kay And did you ever hear people say a far piece? {NW} 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: People would say that? 662: Yeah Interviewer: How how would they use that? They'd say? 662: He said well not down here you won't here far piece but oy you might hear ah cause they just making fun. Interviewer: uh huh 662: You know but he would say he has a far piece to go. Interviewer: uh huh And um if something was very common and you didn't have to look for it in a special place you'd say oh you'd find that just about? 662: Anywhere Interviewer: And if someone slipped on the ice or something and fell this way you'd say you fell over? 662: Backward Interviewer: And this way? 662: Forward Interviewer: And if you'd been fishing {NW} and if I asked you did you catch any fish you might say no {D:what the line no} 662: They didn't bite. Interviewer: uh huh Would you ever say I didn't catch very one? Did you ever hear that expression? 662: I've heard it but they don't use it down here Interviewer: uh huh And 662: I didn't catch a one that's what they'd say down here. Interviewer: If you got rid of all the brush and trees on your land you'd say you did what? 662: Cleared it Interviewer: And wheat is tied up into a? 662: Bundle? Interviewer: mm-kay And then they take the bundles and pile them into a? 662: I don't know Interviewer: #1 What about # 662: #2 Stack # Interviewer: mm-kay And um talk about how much wheat you raise to an acre. You might say we raise forty what of wheat to an acre? 662: Bundles Interviewer: Or forty? We talking about the bushel you'd say we raised forty? 662: Bushels Interviewer: mm-kay And what do you have to do with oats to separate the grain from the rest of it? 662: Mill it Interviewer: mm-kay And say if there was something that we had to do today just the two of us you could say we'll have to do it or another way of saying that? 662: We will have to do it. Interviewer: Instead of saying we you'd say? Do you ever say me and you or you and I or? 662: Yeah I've used both. {NW} I've put myself first and I've put someone else first too. Interviewer: How would what would you probably say? 662: You and I Interviewer: mm-kay What if you are talking to a say some man and yourself you'd say? 662: He and I Interviewer: And you'd say well this job uh say he doesn't want just you or just me for this job he wants? 662: You talking about both? Interviewer: uh huh You'd say he wants? 662: Both of us Interviewer: mm-kay And if you knock at the door and they ask who's there and you know that they recognize your voice you'd say it's? 662: Me Interviewer: And if it was some man you'd say it's? 662: It's he Interviewer: mm-kay and if it's a woman? 662: It is she. Interviewer: And if it is two people? 662: They Interviewer: And you say he's not as tall as? 662: She Interviewer: We're talking about yourself. He's not as tall as? 662: He's not as tall as I. Interviewer: Or I'm not as tall? 662: As he Interviewer: And if he can do that better? 662: He can do that better than me. Interviewer: mm-kay And um 662: Oh my little girl had all of this and I know I am getting it wrong she had this in English the last six weeks and I couldn't help her at all. {NW} Interviewer: #1 I'm just interested in what # 662: #2 yeah # Interviewer: what you would say. 662: Well I use both because you know sometimes I think this has a lot to do with peoples mood when they put themselves first. Interviewer: uh huh 662: You know. It all depends on their mood. Interviewer: {NW} Yes it's hard to it's something that you don't think about. 662: Yeah Interviewer: #1 If you say which one would you say # 662: #2 Yeah # Yeah Interviewer: It's hard to um You'd say if something belongs to me then you'd say it's? 662: It belongs to me Interviewer: or This isn't mine this is? I'd say um this isn't mine this is? 662: Yours Interviewer: And if it belongs to both of us then it's? 662: It's for us Interviewer: or 662: both of us. Interviewer: You'd say it's? 662: Ours Interviewer: mm-kay And if it belongs to them then it's? 662: Theirs Interviewer: And to him? 662: His Interviewer: And to her? 662: Hers Interviewer: Did you ever hear people say his'n? or your'n? Did you ever hear that? 662: Not down here. Interviewer: And if you were talking to a whole group of people how would you address them? You'd say? Would you say you to them or? Say if a group of people was over to your house and they were fixing a meeting 662: Yeah Interviewer: you'd say I hope 662: Yeah because you could be collective Interviewer: uh huh {NS} Well do you ever use anything else besides you? 662: Y'all Interviewer: mm-kay Would you ever use y'all just to one person? {NS} 662: To one person? Interviewer: uh huh 662: No Interviewer: And say if there was a group of people at your house and they're fixing to leave and you are asking them about their coats. You know everybody's coats. You'd say well where are? 662: Your Interviewer: huh? 662: Where are your coats? Interviewer: mm-kay Would you ever say y'all's coats? 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: Or you alls coats 662: I would Interviewer: How would you say that? 662: Where are y'all's coats? Y'all's with an s Interviewer: And 662: {X} Go through the front door from now on huh the wind keeps on blowing. Interviewer: Say if there was a party that you hadn't been able to go to and you were asking about the people that had gone you'd ask well? Who's at the party? You'd say well? 662: You mean if wait uh uh I got lost on that one. Did y'all go you mean? #1 something like that # Interviewer: #2 But no # you want to know which people went you'd say well? 662: Who was there? Interviewer: uh huh Would you ever say who all was there? 662: No Interviewer: What if there's a group of children playing that obviously belong to more than one family you'd ask about them? 662: Who's kids are they? Interviewer: uh huh Would you ever say who alls kids are they? 662: uh uh Interviewer: And if there had been a speech you hadn't been able to hear and you were asking about all of the speakers remarks you know you'd say? 662: Who all Interviewer: or 662: spoke Interviewer: #1 or # 662: #2 you mean # Interviewer: or ask him about his remarks you know everything he said. You'd ask well? 662: What did he say? Interviewer: uh huh What about what all did he say? 662: No Interviewer: And you say if no one else will look out for them you say they've got to look out for? 662: For themselves Interviewer: And if no one else will do it for them. You say he better do it? 662: For himself Interviewer: And um say if you were real thirsty you might say I what a glass of water? 662: Drink Interviewer: And you'd ask me how much have you? 662: Drunk Interviewer: And um something that's um made out of flower and baked in a loaf? 662: Bread Interviewer: mm-kay What different kinds of bread? 662: White bread French bread Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: whole wheat Interviewer: What what do you put in white bread to make it rise? 662: Yeast Interviewer: And what other kinds of of um what about something that's made it's fried in deep fat and has a hole in the center? 662: Doughnut Interviewer: mm-kay Are there different kinds of doughnuts? 662: Yeah Interviewer: Do they have different names? 662: Beignet Interviewer: What? 662: The beignets? Interviewer: uh huh What? 662: Well it's um it's a plain dough and you fry it in deep fat and then after that you'd shake it in some powdered sugar. Interviewer: mm-hmm That's that's the French 662: That's the French doughnuts. The beignets Interviewer: Um what about something you you make up a batter and fry three or four of these for breakfast? 662: A batch Interviewer: Well something that um you eat with syrup and butter. You fry them for breakfast it's not a kind of doughnut it's something else. 662: Oh pancakes Interviewer: mm-kay Any other name for pancakes? 662: Flap jacks Interviewer: mm-kay What about um say if you were you say there's two kinds of bread there's there's homemade bread and then there's? 662: Store bought bread. Interviewer: mm-kay What about um When you talking about home much flour might be in a sack you might say? The flour might a sack might contain ten? 662: Pounds Interviewer: And what sort of things are made out of cornmeal? 662: Cornmeal? Interviewer: mm-hmm What kinds of bread and things are made out of cornmeal? 662: Oh cornbread Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Uh you can use cornmeal to fry seafood with. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about something you could make to eat along with the seafood? 662: Hushpuppies {NW} Interviewer: What do they look like? 662: That's little fritters with onions chopped onion in it and an egg milk Interviewer: It's little frit-? 662: Fritters Interviewer: #1 What's # 662: #2 Fried # It's fried they're dropped by teaspoon fulls into hot fat. Interviewer: What do you mean fritters? 662: A fritter is uh any it it's a fried food it's um round and usually when it's cooked on one side it will automatically pop over and cook on the other side. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: You can make eggplant fritters or banana fritters. And that's what a hushpuppy is it's a fritter. Interviewer: A fritter is just anything that's cooked in that's cooked that way? 662: It's yeah right Interviewer: It doesn't have to have meal or anything? 662: No because a you you can make eggplant fritters with eggplants and flour and sugar and vanilla and an egg you make a stiff it wouldn't be a dough it would be almost it would be in between a batter and a dough. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: you know Well it would be like um biscuit dough you know that consistency. A little bit thinner maybe and you drop it by teaspoon fulls into hot grease. And it's delicious. Interviewer: What about um something that you can make just with cornmeal salt and water? 662: Cornmeal salt and water? You talking about mush? Interviewer: mm-hmm Anything else like that? 662: The only thing I've ever used that for was for tamale pie. Interviewer: Was for what? 662: Tamale pie Interviewer: What's that? 662: Tamale you know tamale pie you know the stuff that you buy at the super market and you ground your uh brown your ground beef #1 and put the spices in. # Interviewer: #2 Oh that Mexican # 662: Yeah and you you make a mush to go on top with the cornmeal and the water and the salt and you top it off and you bake it Interviewer: #1 Did you ever hear of anything called cush cush # 662: #2 cush cush # That's around Lafayette {NW} Interviewer: What's that? 662: That's around Lafayette the people eat cush cush. Interviewer: uh huh #1 {X} # 662: #2 It's not # too popular down here. Interviewer: How do they make that? 662: I don't know I guess it's the same thing as mush. And eat it with syrup I believe or you can eat it with milk. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And sugar like some people would eat oatmeal Interviewer: uh huh It around Lafayette that's that's more French then 662: That's what you call the Acadians around there. Interviewer: Is is that French the the same as what's spoken here? 662: Well I really I guess you could go in Louisiana and find French spoken differently in just about I don't know how many communities because like the people in Grand Isle I'll speak French differently than the people in upper Lafourche then in ah below Homer it'll be just a little bit different but generally they can understand each other there's just a few things that would be you know different. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: You know just a few just a few little expressions is really what is it yeah it's basically the same. Interviewer: Um did you ever hear of anything called a corn dodger? 662: uh uh Interviewer: And the inside part of the egg is called a? 662: Yolk Interviewer: And what color is that? 662: Yellow Interviewer: And if you cook them in hot water you call them? 662: Boiled Interviewer: Boiled? 662: Boiled eggs Interviewer: uh huh What about if you crack them and let them fall out of their shells in the hot water? 662: Poached Interviewer: And what about the um kind of pork that you can use for boiling with greens? 662: Salt pork Interviewer: mm-hmm Any 662: Salt meat Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear of um white bacon or fat back or 662: Slab bacon Interviewer: What's slab bacon? 662: Slab bacon is just? uh to me it's just the odd pieces that's left over in the factories that they can't slice uniform slices out of you know and package it and sell it for seasoning meat. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: That's what slab bacon is to me. Interviewer: What about the kind of meat you buy sliced to eat with eggs? {NS} 662: Ham bacon Interviewer: uh huh {NS} And um when you cut the side of a hog {NS} when you cut the side of the hog 662: The side of the hog? Interviewer: Would you call that um side of bacon or middle end of bacon or? 662: No I'm not too familiar with that. A side yeah Interviewer: uh huh What about hmm 662: Or a side of beef Interviewer: mm-hmm What about the um the outside of the bacon that you cut off? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of the the bacon rind or? 662: Oh yeah yeah rind Interviewer: uh huh 662: Bacon rind Interviewer: What and um the person who kills and sells the meat he's called a? 662: Butcher Interviewer: And if meats been kept to long you say that it's? 662: Spoiled Interviewer: And you could take the trimmings and slice them up and grind them and make you know something you could cut into little links maybe 662: Sausage Interviewer: mm-kay What do you make with the meat from the head? 662: Hog head cheese Interviewer: mm-kay Have you ever heard of anything called scrapple or hon hogs 662: uh uh Interviewer: What about um something made out of the liver? 662: Made out of the liver? Liver cheese Interviewer: How do you make that? 662: I don't know. Interviewer: What about the blood? 662: Blood sausage or boudin. {C: French pronunciation} Interviewer: Is boudin the same as blood sausage? 662: Well boudin {C: French pronunciation} uh you can get white boudin {C: French pronunciation} or you can get red boudin {C: French pronunciation} Now the red boudin {C: French pronunciation} called the blood sausage. Interviewer: What um what different inside parts of the hog do we {NS} 662: The ribs the inside I don't know what would the ham be the rump? You can get Interviewer: I mean the the 662: Organ meat you mean? Interviewer: Yeah what different 662: In potted meat you get everything I don't know. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of um {D: passlit or parslit} or liver in lites 662: uh uh Interviewer: What about something they could make out of the intestines? 662: Chitlins Interviewer: uh huh And say if you had butter that was kept too long and it didn't taste right 662: It's rancid Interviewer: mm-kay What about milk that gets thick you call that? 662: Clabber Interviewer: What do you make with that? 662: Cream cheese Interviewer: And the first thing you have to do after milking to get the impurities out? 662: Pasteurize Interviewer: Or what they do like you could you could to get the hairs and everything out? 662: Strain it Interviewer: mm-kay and this is something kind of like a a fruit pie only its got several layers of fruit and dough in it. 662: Cobbler Interviewer: mm-kay And if someone has a good appetite you say he sure likes to put away his? 662: Food Interviewer: And food taken between regular meals? 662: Snack Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever hear that called a lunch? 662: uh uh Interviewer: And um say if you took milk or cream and mixed that with sugar and nutmeg and made a sweet liquid to pour over a pie you'd call that a? 662: Milk and nutmeg? And sugar? Interviewer: Yeah 662: That's eggnog {NW} Interviewer: Well something that {NS} just a a sweet liquid that you could make to pour 662: Custard Interviewer: Well 662: Pudding custard? Interviewer: I was thinking something would you ever call it a sauce or a dip or a dressing? 662: Oh a sauce yeah custard sauce Interviewer: mm-kay And if dinner was on the table and the family was standing around the table and you tell them just go ahead and? 662: Eat Interviewer: But they are standing up you tell them? 662: Sit down Interviewer: mm-kay So then you went ahead and what down? 662: They sat down. Interviewer: mm-kay And you say no one else was standing because they had all? 662: Sat down Interviewer: And if you want someone not to wait until the potatoes are passed over to them you tell them just go ahead and? 662: Wait now my mind's wandering say that again. Interviewer: If there's some potatoes on the table and you want someone to not to wait until they are passed over 662: Help yourself Interviewer: What? 662: Say that again help yourself. Interviewer: mm-kay Say you say so then he went ahead and? 662: Helped himself Interviewer: mm-kay And I asked him to pass them over to me since he had already? 662: Helped himself Interviewer: mm-kay And if you decide not to eat something you say? No thank you I don't 662: I don't eat that. Interviewer: Or if I offer you some food that you don't want you'd say I don't? 662: I don't indulge {NW} Interviewer: And if foods been cooked and served a second time you say that it's been? 662: Reheated Interviewer: mm-kay Do you ever say warmed up feed over? 662: Warmed up Interviewer: mm-kay And you put the food in your mouth and then you begin to? 662: Chew Interviewer: And you say he couldn't eat that piece of meat because it got stuck in his throat and he couldn't? 662: Swallow Interviewer: He could chew it but he couldn't? aux: Swallow 662: Swallow Interviewer: And say if um carrots and peas and beets and so forth that that you grow yourself you'd call those? 662: Home grown Interviewer: Home grown what? 662: Vegetables {NW} Interviewer: And a place where you'd grow them would be? 662: Garden Interviewer: And whiskey that people would make illegally out in the woods? 662: Moonshine Interviewer: mm-kay Any other names for that? 662: Boot leg Interviewer: mm-kay What about the beer that they'd make? 662: Home brew Interviewer: mm-hmm You ever hear of um people make some sort of beer or liquor or something from from the sugarcane skins? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: Did you ever hear of something I think it's called buck or something like that. 662: I've never heard of that. Interviewer: {D: Did you ever heard of anything called splow?} 662: mm-mm Interviewer: And you say this isn't imitation makers or this is? 662: Genuine Interviewer: And when sugar was sold not packaged but when it's sold weighed out of the barrel you'd say it was sold? 662: Loose Interviewer: mm-kay And if you were buying it whole sale you'd say you were buying it in? Say if you were buying about one hundred pounds at a time you'd say you were buying it in? 662: Bulk Interviewer: mm-kay And a sweet spread that you could put on toast or biscuits in the morning? 662: A sweet spread? Interviewer: uh huh 662: Jam jelly Interviewer: mm-kay And something you could season your food with? 662: Just any seasoning? Interviewer: Well no what you 662: Salt and pepper Interviewer: mm-kay And if there was a bowl of apples and a child wanted one it'd say? If there's a bowl of apples on the table if the child wanted one he'd tell you? 662: May I have an apple Interviewer: mm-kay And you'd say well he doesn't live here he lives? 662: Over there Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever say yonder? 662: uh uh Interviewer: Do you ever hear that around here? 662: uh Not around here not to The foreigners come over here and use that word yonder but the natives don't use it. Interviewer: What do you mean foreigner? 662: Mississippians Texans {NW} people from Arkansas Interviewer: What about people from from North Louisiana are the foreigners? 662: Just about {NW} They don't call L-S-U stadium death valley for nothing. You ever heard them call that? Interviewer: I'm 662: L-S-U Death Valley aux: That horse you road this morning? Interviewer: Yeah I think so aux: I've seen you over there cause I was you know that door wide open spot back there? Interviewer: uh huh aux: Out by the hill camping out by the pond right next door 662: And don't swim you hear? {NW} Interviewer: Um if you tell someone don't do it that way do it? 662: This way Interviewer: mm-kay And if you don't have any money at all you say you're not rich you're? 662: Poor Interviewer: And you say when I was a child my father was poor but next door was a child what father was rich next door was a child? 662: That's rich Interviewer: Or you talking about his father being rich. Next door was a child 662: You lost me again Interviewer: You say when I was a child my father was poor but next door was a child what? Father was rich. Next door was a child 662: Whose father was rich Interviewer: mm-kay And say if you have a lot of peach trees you say you have a peach? 662: Orchard Interviewer: And you might ask someone if that is his orchard {NW} you ask somebody if that's his orchard and he'd say no I'm just a neighbor. And he'd point to another man and say he's the man? 662: Who owns the orchard. Interviewer: mm-kay And talk about kinds of animals some the kind of animal that barks? 662: A dog Interviewer: mm-kay And if you wanted your dog to attack another dog what would you tell them? 662: Get it Interviewer: mm-kay What would you a a mixed breed dog? 662: A pot licker {D: A cayoodle} {D: A hines} Interviewer: A cay? 662: {D: Cayoodle} Interviewer: {D: What's cayoodle?} 662: That's just an old name down here for a mixed breed dog {D: a cayoodle.} I don't even know how you would spell that. But oh my daddy used to use that expression all the time. {D: So it's an old cayoodle.} Interviewer: Um Does that mean he is just a mixed breed dog or sort of a worthless dog? 662: Right Mixed breed just Interviewer: What about one of those small noisy little dogs that's always barking at you? 662: Chihuahua Interviewer: Or another name for them? 662: You mean you want the breed or you want just another name for them? Interviewer: Just a name a common name Did you ever hear of {D: buice?} 662: uh-uh Interviewer: What about just ah um it one of those big short haired dogs? 662: You want the breed or the name? Interviewer: Just the just the name. 662: Ah I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a cur? 662: uh uh Interviewer: And if you had a mean dog you might tell someone you better be careful that dog will? 662: Bite you Interviewer: And yesterday he? 662: Bit Interviewer: mm-kay And the person had to go to the doctor after he got? 662: Bitten Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever say dog bit? so and so got dog bit 662: Dog bite Dog bite Interviewer: What other would you ever say it um the person was? 662: Bitten Interviewer: uh huh Would you ever say dog bit? Would you ever say it that way? Or would you say bitten by a dog? 662: Bitten by a dog is what I'd say. Interviewer: And something that people used to plow with the animal? 662: Oh a mule Interviewer: mm-kay And two of those hitched together they'd call that a? 662: Team Interviewer: mm-kay What what else besides mules would people have around a farm? 662: We back to the farm animals again? {NW} ah Horses Cattle Chickens Ducks Hogs Interviewer: Um talking about the the horses you'd say everyone around here likes to what horses? 662: Ride Interviewer: And yesterday he? 662: Rode Interviewer: But I have never? 662: Ridden Interviewer: And if you couldn't stay on you'd say I fell? 662: Off Interviewer: Say the whole thing. I fell 662: I fell off Interviewer: Wait talk about the horse I fell I fell what the horse I fell 662: I fell off the horse Interviewer: mm-kay And say a child was asleep in bed and woke up and found himself on the floor in the morning you say I guess I must of? 662: Fallen off the bed Interviewer: And the things that you put on the horses feet you call those the? 662: Horseshoes Interviewer: And the parts of the feet that you put the shoes on are called the? 662: Hoof Hoofs hooves {NW} Interviewer: And did you ever see a game played with the horseshoes? 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: Did you ever see it played with rings instead of horseshoes? 662: Ring toss game Interviewer: uh huh And the female horse is called the 662: Mare Interviewer: What about the male? 662: Stallion Interviewer: uh huh Was that what knights used? Stallions? 662: I don't see why not Interviewer: Were there any other names for the male-? 662: Stud Interviewer: uh huh How did that word sound did that sound kind of vulgar? 662: uh yeah I guess it does but now now a days it doesn't Interviewer: mm-hmm #1 What about # 662: #2 There's a lot of money made from that word # Interviewer: {NW} What about the animal that you milk? You call that a? 662: Cow Interviewer: And if it's first born it's called a? 662: Calf Interviewer: And if it's a female it's a? 662: Calf Interviewer: mm-kay what about a male? 662: Calf Interviewer: um and the grown male he's called a? 662: Bull Interviewer: mm-kay Was that word nice to use? 662: Yeah Interviewer: Any other names for bull? 662: No not that I know of. Interviewer: You never heard of people um older women or someone being embarrassed say the word bull did ya? 662: No Interviewer: And if you had a cow that was expecting a calf you'd say she was gonna? what? 662: She was gonna {NW} have a calf. Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear drop a calf or 662: uh uh Interviewer: calf or coming fresh. And what people raise sheep for is the? 662: Wool Interviewer: And the female sheep is called the? 662: I don't know one of my pets. {NW} Interviewer: What about the male? 662: Wait now a male is called I don't know. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of a ram or 662: A ram yeah I always associate a ram you know the big horn rams that you see up in the mountains you always think of that's what I think of as a ram. Interviewer: I don't guess the ram sounds vulgar to you does it? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: And talking about the hogs when they are first born you call them? Well when they are babies you know you call them? 662: Pigs Interviewer: mm-kay What about when they are about half grown? Then you call them? 662: Pigs Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever hear of shoats? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: What about the female they're called the? 662: I don't know I would just call it a pig Interviewer: uh huh 662: Or a hog Interviewer: What about if if she if she has babies then she would be a? Did you ever hear of a sow or a gilt? 662: Oh yeah I've yeah I didn't even know that's you know. {NW} I'm just not familiar you know? Interviewer: Yeah 662: I knew a sow was a pig but I didn't know that you know? It was a that she had right right Interviewer: What about the male? They're called the? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of boar or sea hog 662: When I think of a boar I think of a wild boar. I don't think of anything domestic. Interviewer: You don't think about it being male or female? 662: No I just think of a wild boar charging through the jungle you know. Interviewer: Um what about say if you had a pig and you didn't want it to grow up to be a male hog what would you say you were gonna do to it? 662: Butcher it Interviewer: Or your not going to butcher him but you don't want him to grow up so he can be used for breeding you say you're going to? 662: You mean like uh have a castrating Interviewer: uh huh Any other terms for castrate? 662: No neuter Interviewer: mm-hmm What would you say if you were talking about say a a cat? You know a tom cat. 662: Yeah Neutered Interviewer: mm-kay And {NS} What happened to that dog's? 662: They put nail polish on it {X} her nails. She's a lady. {NS} Interviewer: Some places you know to get the the nails off on a dog they just put Novocaine there at some kennels they just chop it off And they chop some of the quick off too so they then they have to put {X} or something on to keep it from being infected I was thinking maybe y'all had done that. 662: Uh no the kids tried to polish her nails this morning and got it in her face besides. Interviewer: {NW} 662: Poor thing Interviewer: How many dogs do y'all have? 662: Lady and our German Shepard Joe Interviewer: He's the brave dog 662: That's the one that's so ferocious {NW} {NW} Interviewer: Um did you ever hear a name for a castrated male hog? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: Bar {D: barrow} barrow 662: No Interviewer: And you know the stiff hairs a hog has on it's back? 662: Bristles Interviewer: mm-kay What about the big teeth that he has? You know the 662: Tusk Interviewer: mm-kay And what you put the food in for the hogs? That would be called a? 662: Trough Interviewer: And if you had three or four of those you'd have three or four? 662: Troughs Interviewer: And say if um you had some horses and mules and cows and so forth when they were getting hungry you'd say you had to go feed the? 662: Animals Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever say the the stock or the critters or the cattle? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: What about if it's time to feed them and do your chores you say that it's? Do you ever say feeding time {D: or fodder time?} 662: mm-mm Interviewer: or chore time? And what if you are talking about chicken and turkeys and geese would you have a general name for those kinds of animals? 662: Poultry Interviewer: mm-kay And um if you wanna get they say before you can hitch your horse to a wagon or a buggy you have to do what to them? 662: I wouldn't know Interviewer: Well you know when you put that everything on it you say you say you have to? 662: Harness Interviewer: mm-kay And when you are driving a horse what you hold in your hand? 662: The reins Interviewer: And when you are riding on it you hold the? 662: Reins Interviewer: And your feet are in the? 662: Stirrups Interviewer: And do you know um did you ever hear of the term referring to plowing with with horses the one on the left or the right did you ever hear of the lead horse or the nigh horse or off horse? 662: I've heard of a lead horse. Interviewer: What's the lead horse? 662: I don't know. {NS} I think that's supposed to be the smarter one {NW} I really don't know. Interviewer: And the noise that a cat makes when it's being weaned? You say the cat did what? 662: {D: I don't know} Interviewer: Well did you ever hear it cries blates or falls? 662: I would just say it cries. Interviewer: mm-kay What about the noise that a cow makes? You say she? 662: Moos Interviewer: mm-kay And the noise that a horse makes? 662: Whinnies Interviewer: mm-kay And did you ever hear anybody call a cow to get it him in and out of the pasture? 662: No Interviewer: Did you ever hear anyone call a calf? 662: No Interviewer: um what about a horse? 662: No by his name I guess. Interviewer: uh huh What about sheep? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: I don't guess that they have those around here. 662: mm-mm Interviewer: Did you ever hear anyone call hogs? 662: They say sooie Interviewer: mm-kay Do you know how that goes? 662: uh uh {NW} Interviewer: What about um chicken 662: chick chick chick chick {NW} Interviewer: Did y'all have chicken? 662: My grandmother had chicken. {D: My moms mom} Interviewer: Where did your grandmother live? 662: That house right next door. Interviewer: #1 And y'all lived # 662: #2 And my aunt # Interviewer: In Thibodaux 662: mm-hmm My aunt owned both houses this one and the other one Interviewer: Was this the grandmother that couldn't speak? 662: But could cook. She could speak English but you know it was broken up. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: She used to prefer to speak in French but I'd always demand that she would speak in English. Interviewer: It really is funny that the language can just die out in one generation. 662: mm-hmm It's well I think that's why they trying to push that {X} fill program in Louisiana to regenerate the French you know. Interviewer: {D: What is the COTA fill?} 662: {D: COTA} fill it's a uh I don't know what it stands for the but it's an abbreviation of a title anyway they they pushing for the young people to start learning how to speak French again and to learn about there French background and you know and uh I think that they are really trying to push it more and more down here because now something I didn't have when I was a teenager was your gumbo festival and your shrimp festival and jambalaya festival and your Cajun days and they starting to bring back the {C: French, fais do-dos} #1 and you know # Interviewer: #2 What's that? # 662: {C: French, fais do-dos} was something that all the people would gather and they'd dance and they'd bring their kids and the mamas and daddies and the kids would be out there and just it would be like a big dance but the whole family would come. Now they have the {C: French, fais do-dos} again you know with the different festivals and everything and they put on the old bonnets you know and just {NW} Interviewer: Where do they have this? 662: Well in the olden days it was always the big the big place you know what I am talking about like they used to have the pavilion in Thibodaux and this and that but now it is always just like school functions or a community functions that they'll have once a year and they'll put on a {C: French, fais do-dos} but it it's nothing in comparison to what it was years ago but they want to let the children know about these things you know. Interviewer: Is this um this area is {NS} is pretty French it's not {D: not not like Lafayette or Saint Martinville is} {NS} Do people here feel um {NS} sort of a sense of you know we're we're Cajun or you know and we're you know the sa- feel more of an identity with being southern Louisiana you know I mean do 662: You mean do we feel like we are different from someone from Shreveport? Interviewer: Yeah I mean #1 do you feel # 662: #2 Definitely # Interviewer: I mean like you know like some people in the south they'll feel we're southerners you know as opposed to you know everybody else you know then feel really a sense of unity and feel sort of a little hostility toward outsiders or or feel feel that they are set apart do people 662: #1 I think so # Interviewer: #2 feel that around here much? # 662: I think so I think um I wish that you could get a hold of a recording there's {D: uh someone from Lafayette I don't know who it is} and he wrote a composition called what is a Cajun? Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And this recording describes completely what a Cajun is. And it's really interesting. And I think that um I think I don't I don't know I'm not familiar with any other parts of the country really and how the people are Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: but uh I think that there's something about people from south Louisiana that that is different from other people you know. I think they have sort of a definite possessiveness I maybe it is because our background is so colorful we have we do have a different background you know south Louisiana. Interviewer: What do you mean a possessiveness? 662: Um Interviewer: Do you think people are more close knit down here I mean more 662: #1 I think so I think people # Interviewer: #2 more family oriented # 662: Uh I don't know I just think that ah well like I'll give you an example my husband or some any other Louisiana native that'll work with my husband will feel like there is a lot of guys from out of state you know they will call someone from Mississippi a stump jumper and like he could be living down here thirty years but he's you know you you can get accepted and say you're a converted {D: cunas} you know you that's it you drink the bayou water and you'll always stay but um there's just something about being an actual native you know and that's just the way we are. Just like when the Rams play the Saints for the first time, they said they had seen fans in their life but never like in New Orleans. Interviewer: {NW} 662: There's something violent about us the way we a Cajun is supposed to love hard he's supposed to hate hard he's supposed to you know he'll get mad at you and then the next minute he'll give you the shirt off his back. That's about all it rolls into and that's how this guy describes a Cajun. You know. Interviewer: uh huh 662: Always to the nth degree Interviewer: uh huh 662: In anything that we do we play hard you know and and Interviewer: #1 What about um # 662: #2 that's how we are. # Interviewer: This what about the racial situation here is it I know I've been in Mississippi you know it's it seems to be a little different down here I can't. #1 I can't really describe # 662: #2 I think Mississippians hate blacks more than what Louisianians do # because the people in Louisiana used to work with the blacks a lot in the cane fields and oh myself I mean mama had um black women to work for her and when I was small I I was sickly when I was small and I had a black woman to take care of me and I loved it just as much as anybody else you know. But I think what really hurts nowadays is that the younger people the younger blacks are being taught to hate I think they want this they want the equal rights but I think they are going about it the wrong way because there is such a hate in it you know what I mean? Like when it's um incident happened at the Howard Johnson in New Orleans now my kid's my boy's in the seventh grade and a boy went to school the next morning it was a black boy and he says well that's good a few whites got killed. Interviewer: What what incident? 662: When the sniper killed I don't know how many people in New Orleans last year at the Howard Johnson and was burning I don't know how many rooms and killed I don't know how many people and had the police baffled they were just you know tearing into the building with guns and what have you. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about um the the I was really um I was down in Lafayette um a couple months ago and I talked to a a and noticed that most of the blacks down there spoke French 662: Oh yeah Interviewer: and um they seemed to me not only was you know their language different but just everything about them seemed seemed to be a little different from you know say a black in Mississippi of something of it just seemed to be a different sort of culture or something you know. 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: they seemed they struck me as being more #1 French # 662: #2 friendly # Oh what about friendly? Interviewer: Well they were friendlier um but they just I I didn't know I was just really surprised because it was a different sort of culture all together. 662: Well most of their ancestors worked here in Louisiana on plantations you know with the French people. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: They were raised with the French people #1 that's why. # Interviewer: #2 I guess they picked up a lot of the # 662: And they did oh yeah a lot of the black people around Lafayette have French names too Interviewer: uh huh 662: Plenty {D: Peletier's and Boudreaux's and Robichaux's and {C: French pronunciations}} stuff like that. Interviewer: Do the you think there's as much between just talk about the the real French people now like the ones that you know the older people who still speak French and everything. You think that um that they're less antagonistic toward blacks as you know a lot of the say someone in Mississippi delta or something an older person out there. 662: You mean the people down here? Interviewer: Yeah Do you think 662: I think they are Interviewer: There's less 662: #1 antagonistic # Interviewer: #2 right to awareness # 662: #1 Um # Interviewer: #2 antagonism # 662: I think so course that's just my opinion Interviewer: What about the older French people do they feel set apart from the the younger people who don't speak French any more? Do they feel? 662: I don't think so Interviewer: Most of them just go ahead and 662: I think if I think you know like you were saying {NW} um it's their fault that the younger people don't know how to speak French anyway cause they should have seen to it that the child would learn. Interviewer: yeah 662: And it was you know it was convenient for my mother she learned how to speak she spoke English she speaks English and um she didn't take the time she knew my grandmother was having ah difficulty speaking English to me but yet she didn't you know she didn't urge me to learn French. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: So really we can't blame ourself and we can't blame the younger children you know it's like the group around my mothers' age that you can really say well they didn't push Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: to teach the children French. Interviewer: Does um does French that they learn in school is it the sort of the Parisian French is it is it the standard French they teach in school or they they going ahead and teaching what people around here speak? 662: Uh from from what I understand from what I've seen I have a little niece that's taken it. Uh we see that they are going back to it now because I have a niece that's in Catholic school in Homer and she's in the third fourth grade and she's learning French and they didn't offer that. Interviewer: Is she is she learning the #1 Louisiana French # 662: #2 and it's no it's not # it's more the Parisian French you know. The proper French because it does differ my we were discussing it one day and my sister in law said well I thought this was this you know but Interviewer: uh huh 662: it isn't you know they were explaining it in a book. So it is different. Interviewer: It seems to me that they ought to just teach 'em just get a few natives speakers of French and you know and teach just what's spoken in this area. 662: Well I wish I would've learned. Interviewer: {NW} 662: Like I said I know a few things but uh I can't carry a conversation you know. Interviewer: Can you understand a conversation? 662: I can understand very little really Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: very little and that's it much to my regret. Interviewer: yeah 662: I wish I could you know. I was a telephone operator when I first got out of high school and I was always afraid I'd get a French speaking person. Course I could always turn over to somebody else you know if I did but I never did um have any difficulty but I know if some of the girls that did get you know the real French speaking people that um they could help them out. Course that's getting you know less and less now. Interviewer: Yeah Um we talked about the calls to animals um do you ever hear um um what would you say to a a mule or horse to get them to turn left or right? 662: I wouldn't know Interviewer: What about to get them started you'd tell them? 662: Giddy up Interviewer: mm-kay And to stop them? 662: Whoa Interviewer: And to make them back up? 662: I don't know {C: laughter} {NW} Interviewer: And um the inside part of the cherry the part that you don't eat you call that the? 662: Pit Interviewer: mm-kay What about in a peach? 662: Stone Interviewer: And you know that part inside the stone? You know if you if you 662: The heart Interviewer: mm-kay And the kind of peach you have to cut the stone out of? 662: What you mean a free stone? Interviewer: Mm-kay what other kind? There's free stone and then there's? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Is it easy or hard to get the the stone out of the free stone? 662: I don't know a free stone is a free stone peach it doesn't have a stone. That's all I get are the free stone peach in a can the stone's gone already. Interviewer: uh huh okay um What about the part of the apple that you don't eat? 662: The core Interviewer: And if you cut up apples and dry them you say you are making? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of snip? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: And what kind of nuts grow around here? 662: Nuts uh pecans pecans that's all I can think of. Interviewer: What about a a kind of nut that what kind of nut would you use if you were making cookies or something? 662: Pecans Interviewer: What else? What kinds could you buy at the store? 662: Oh walnuts Interviewer: mm-hmm What about the kind of nut that's shaped like your eye? 662: Oh a peanut Interviewer: mm-kay Any other name for peanut? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: Did you ever hear of pindars? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: mm-hmm What about um the kind of nut you'd buy around Christmas? It's flat if you buy it already out of the shell then it's it's flat and white. 662: Oh almonds Interviewer: mm-kay And tell me about that walnut did you ever see a walnut just off a tree? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: mm-kay but I was going to ask you um you know they got two coatings on them do you ever? 662: I didn't know that. Interviewer: A kind of fruit that grows down in Florida? 662: Grapefruit oranges Interviewer: mm-kay Say you had a bowl of oranges and one day you went in to get one and there weren't any left you'd say the oranges are? 662: Gone Interviewer: mm-kay What sort of things would grow in a garden? {NW} 662: What sort of things you'd grow in a garden? Tomatoes lettuce butter beans string beans egg plant bell peppers squash pumpkin Interviewer: Are there different kinds of squash? 662: Yeah there are there's squash yeah you have uh we grow the white squash down here. Interviewer: mm-hmm What does that look like? 662: It's uh round it's round but flattened. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And it has a a scalloped edge. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And it's good make a squash pie. Interviewer: What about um you mention the um tomatoes what do you call the ones that don't get any bigger than this? 662: Cherry tomatoes Interviewer: mm-kay And you mentioned string beans is there another name for them? 662: String beans green beans? Interviewer: Is that the same thing? 662: mm-hmm Interviewer: What about snap beans? 662: Snap beans Interviewer: #1 that's # 662: #2 that's the same thing # Interviewer: What about um butter beans? 662: Lima beans Interviewer: Is that the same thing? 662: Same thing Interviewer: And if you wanted to uh what would you have to do to butter beans to get the beans out you have to 662: Oh peel peel 'em shuck um what do you call it? I don't know. Snap 'em. No I don't know. Interviewer: What about shell them? 662: Shell them yeah right yeah that's it you shell butter beans. Interviewer: uh huh And this is something that a little red thing that grows down in the ground you put it in salad maybe? 662: Beets Interviewer: No it's something that's only about this big 662: Radishes Interviewer: mm-kay And along with your meats you might have a baked? 662: Potato Interviewer: What different kinds of potatoes are there? 662: Irish white that's it. Interviewer: Irish? 662: Irish potatoes and white potatoes Interviewer: What's the difference? 662: White potato has a um a mealier meat and the skin is uh brown it's it's has um a coarser jacket Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And in the Irish potato is um juicier Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And the shape's different too. Irish potatoes uh longer Interviewer: mm-hmm Are they what color are they on the outside? 662: What which one? The Irish? Red Interviewer: mm-hmm What about the inside? 662: White Interviewer: What about the um another kind of potato? 662: Sweet potato Interviewer: uh huh What different kinds of sweet potatoes are there? 662: I don't know all I know is that some people call them sweet potatoes and some people call them yams there's supposed to be a difference but I don't know I don't know the difference. Interviewer: uh huh 662: You know Interviewer: What about um something that has a strong odor and make your eyes water if you cut it? 662: Onions Interviewer: uh huh What do you call those little onions that you that would be about this big you know and you they have the the stalk to them. And 662: Shallots Interviewer: mm-kay And if you leave a plum laying around it will dry up and get smaller you say that it'll do what? 662: Dehydrate Interviewer: mm-kay Well what would you say bacon does when you when you fry it? 662: What would you say bacon does? You cook it and the fat melts Interviewer: And it it 662: Shrivels Interviewer: mm-kay And um something that's a leafy vegetable? 662: Lettuce Interviewer: Or something else like that? 662: Cabbage Interviewer: mm-kay And talking about several of those you'd say? Several? 662: Heads of cabbage Interviewer: mm-kay And um would you ever use that word heads talking about children? Say someone had six children to say he had six heads of children? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: What about someone who had about fourteen children you say he really had a? 662: A brood {NW} Interviewer: Do you ever say a castle? 662: uh uh Interviewer: And um say you take the tops of the turnips and cook them and make a mess of? 662: Turnip greens Interviewer: mm-kay What other kinds of greens besides turnips do you eat? 662: Spinach Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Greens? Lettuce is green uh cabbage broccoli. No that's not greens. Oh you talking about green vegetables in general or crispy greens? Interviewer: Just greens 662: Turnip greens Interviewer: You ever have poke? 662: Mustard greens Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear of poke? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: Poke salad 662: mm-mm I've heard the song {NW} I've never seen it. {NW} Interviewer: What are the um used in gumbo? 662: File {C: French} Interviewer: huh? 662: File {C: French} you mean Interviewer: What's file? {C: French} 662: File is the {C: French} the stuff that you use to thicken your gumbo that's ground sassafras leaves. Interviewer: They call that file? 662: F-I-L-E with a little {NW} over the E Interviewer: What else what kind of vegetables do they put into? 662: Okra Interviewer: uh huh 662: onions Interviewer: And um something that um they get from the kinds of seafood they get from the gulf they trap in nets? 662: Shrimp Interviewer: mm-kay If you were gonna buy some of those you'd you'd ask for two or three pounds of? 662: Shrimp Interviewer: And something that comes in a shell? 662: Oyster Interviewer: And um the kind of corn that is tender enough to eat off the cob? 662: Corn on the cob boiled corn Interviewer: uh huh any other names for that? 662: No Interviewer: Did you ever hear roast roasting ears 662: mm-mm Interviewer: What about mutton corn? 662: No Interviewer: And the outside of the ear of corn? 662: I'm drawing a blank corn shucks. Interviewer: mm-kay What about the stringy stuff? 662: Corn silk Interviewer: And the thing that grows at the top of the corn stalk? You know that little bunch sort of thing? 662: Yeah I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear tassel or tossel? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: And what different kinds of melons grow around here? 662: Uh cantaloupe watermelon Interviewer: Did you ever hear of mushmelon? 662: Mushmelon my grandmother used to call it mushmelon and all it was was cantaloupe. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about are there different kinds of watermelon? 662: There's different kinds but I don't know. Some of them are round are dark green and the others are light green with the dark green stripes in it and longer. Interviewer: uh huh What about um say if it had rained for awhile something that would spring up in the woods or fields after it had rained just little umbrella shaped things? 662: Mushrooms Interviewer: mm-kay any other name for them? 662: Toad stools Interviewer: Is that the same thing? 662: No Interviewer: What's the difference? 662: Well down here you can go and get fresh mushrooms that grow off the willow trees and it it it almost looks like an an oyster shell you know similar to it and it's delicious in chicken stew and stuff like that and then the toad stew has the little stem and the dome top. Interviewer: Does it grow on the ground? 662: On the ground mm-hmm. Interviewer: #1 Not on the # 662: #2 It can grow on # tree stumps and on the ground as well Interviewer: Can you eat the toad stew? 662: No not that I know of. There's different kinds of mushrooms that resemble the toad stews that you can get at the can in the B and B. {NW} Interviewer: Um say if um you might say well that that soup is so hot that it's it's all I can do to the soup is so hot I can barely? 662: Swallow Interviewer: mm-kay or something that people smoke made out of tobacco? 662: Cigarettes Interviewer: And something else? 662: Cigars Interviewer: And say someone asked you about doing a certain job whether you were able to you'd say sure I do it sure I? 662: Can Interviewer: How how would you say that? 662: Sure I can do it. Interviewer: mm-kay And if you weren't able to do it you'd say no I? 662: Can't Interviewer: And something that you just refuse to do? 662: Can't {C: pronunciation difference} {NW} Interviewer: Would you say can't 662: I say can't sometimes {C: pronunciation difference} Interviewer: uh huh What about if there is something that you just refuse to do you might say? 662: Won't Interviewer: mm-kay And say there was a really bad accident up the road but there wasn't any need to call the doctor because by the time we got there the person was what dead was? 662: Pronounced Interviewer: or would you say he's done dead or was already dead? 662: He was already dead. Interviewer: Would you ever say done? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: Already you ever say have you ever heard of that around here? 662: Done you mean use done before? Interviewer: To mean to use the word done to mean already. Like you say the meat's done spoiled or the meat? 662: Oh yeah yeah Interviewer: Would you ever say that yourself? 662: I don't think I do but I've heard it you know maybe I don't know I don't think I do though. Interviewer: And you know gun fighters on television for for every man they kill they cut a little 662: Notch Interviewer: mm-kay And you'd say um at this time of the year say say if the corn season was a little short you'd say well at this time of the year the corn what taller the corn if the corn isn't as tall as you as it was last year you say this time of the year the corn? 662: Is shorter Interviewer: mm-kay or it's not as tall as it? 662: Was Interviewer: And you might tell a child you're not doing what you what do you're not doing what you your child is misbehaving you tell them that you're not doing what you? 662: Should Interviewer: mm-kay Or another way of saying that you're not doing what you what to do? You say what? 662: Being told Interviewer: uh huh Well would you say what you ought to do or 662: Oh Interviewer: huh? 662: You're not doing what you oughta do yeah Interviewer: Or say if a child got a whipping you'd say I bet he did something he 662: Shouldn't do are we back on that or? Interviewer: Using the word ought you'd say? 662: Ought not to do you mean? Interviewer: Mm-kay and 662: I don't usually say that I just say I betcha he did something wrong Interviewer: {NW} And say if um if I ask you if you'll be able to do maybe some work next week or something you might say well I'm not sure if I can do it but I 662: I'll try Interviewer: Or I might 662: Be able to do it Interviewer: Do you ever say I might could? 662: Uh uh Interviewer: Do you ever does that sound funny to you do you ever hear it or? 662: Uh I don't know I might could do it yeah that sounds familiar. Interviewer: What's that? 662: It sounds familiar. Interviewer: How how would people use it around here? 662: I might could do it sounds like it would be used down here I don't I think so. I've really never paid it any attention you know. Interviewer: Yeah 662: To these expressions Interviewer: Um the kind of bird that you'd see in the dark? 662: An owl Interviewer: mm-kay What do you call a small kind of owl? 662: A hoot owl Interviewer: What? 662: A screech owl Interviewer: uh huh What about um did you ever hear any superstitions about owls? 662: Mm-hmm The old people used to think when you'd hear a screech owl there would be a death in the family. Interviewer: Really? 662: Uh huh Interviewer: What what would they do about it? #1 Anything? # 662: #2 Nothing # They that's what they used to believe if a screech owl would come around your house and you'd hear a screech owl there would be a death. Interviewer: Did um did you ever hear any things about um did you ever hear them called the death owl? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: What about um did you ever hear of doing things to make the owl stop screeching? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: You like grab your wrist or turn your pocket inside out or? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: What about a kind of bird that drills holes in trees? 662: Woodpecker Interviewer: mm-kay What do you call the large ones? 662: A big woodpecker {NW} Interviewer: mm-kay Did you ever hear any other names? 662: Uh Uh no Interviewer: What about um turning the name around did you ever hear it called peckerwood? 662: Uh uh Interviewer: Did you ever hear did you ever hear the word peckerwood at all? 662: Uh uh Interviewer: Um and a kind of black and white animal that stinks? 662: A skunk Interviewer: Mm-kay any other name for him? 662: uh uh Interviewer: Polecat or civvy cat or? 662: I've heard of a pole cat but I wouldn't associate it with a skunk. Interviewer: What would you associate a pole cat with? 662: Like a bobcat Interviewer: mm-hmm Just a a large? 662: Yeah a wild cat you know Interviewer: Say some animals have been coming and killing the chickens what general name would you have for the kind of animals that would do that sort of thing? Like you'd say I'm gonna get a gun and kill those? Did you ever use the word varmint? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: Are you are you familiar? 662: I'm familiar with the word but it's not used down here too much. Interviewer: Uh huh What would people say? 662: {NW} Down here {NW} I'm gonna take the gun and shoot those S-O-B's {NW} Interviewer: What about the word varmint? 662: Uh uh No Interviewer: Um and a bushy tailed animal that gets up in the trees? 662: Gets up in the trees? A cat Interviewer: Or just a something just a bushy tailed animal about this size? 662: Oh a squirrel Interviewer: Uh huh What different kinds of squirrels are there? 662: I don't know A flying squirrel and a regular squirrel {NW} Interviewer: Do you ever see them different colors or anything like red or gray or? 662: I've seen yeah the brown and I've seen the reddish one and I've seen one with a little bit more gray {NW} Interviewer: Did you ever hear a special name for the reddish one? #1 A fox squirrel # 662: #2 A fox squirrel # Interviewer: What's that? 662: A fox squirrel Interviewer: uh huh What about the other kind? 662: I don't know Interviewer: And something kind of like a squirrel that has little stripes down its back? 662: Chipmunk Interviewer: mm-kay And what different fish do people get around here? 662: Sacalait {C: French pronunciation} perch red fish drum sheepshead catfish um choupique {C: French pronunciation} trout Interviewer: What's the choupique one? 662: A choupique is {C: French pronunciation} an old-timey fish they used to they jokingly called it a cypress trout and it's a it's a bloody bloody fish when you cut it open and bleeds plenty. Interviewer: What about the sacalait? 662: Sacalait {C: French pronunciation} that's like a white perch. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about um from the salt water? 662: Oh the salt water well you could get drum, sheepshead, red fish um {D: tarpon} um trout channel mullets catfish Interviewer: mm-hmm Do the um 662: Flounder Interviewer: huh? 662: Flounder Interviewer: uh huh Do the sheepshead and drum do do they um they're able to stay in the fresh or salt water or was it a different kind of? 662: I don't know I think I think they both salt water fish I'm not sure. Mama could tell you that, I don't know. Interviewer: #1 She's the one who does all the fishing? # 662: #2 Yeah she's the fishing expert # Interviewer: {NW} Do they have big boats does your mother have a a big boat? 662: Uh she don't have a boat she goes out there and surf fishes Interviewer: #1 Way down the # 662: #2 On the surf # Interviewer: Does she catch big fish? 662: She caught a twenty six pound red last year that beat the red fish rodeo champion two weeks later. {D: And she caught a hundred and something pound garth fish out there.} Interviewer: A hundred and something pound fish? 662: mm-hmm with a pin reel. Interviewer: You mean just by casting out? 662: #1 Yeah # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # How how did she ever bring it in? 662: Well she had help I mean you know. But she fought it for over an hour. That's a tough ol' gal. Interviewer: Seems like a fish that size would {NW} 662: She knows how to play a fish no she knows how to play a fish. She's good Interviewer: How would they ever bring a fish like that in? Seems like they just have to get out in a boat or something. 662: No because you can bring them in on a surf I mean you know. Usually you have to go out because there is good fishing on the rigs by Grand Isle. You know a lot of those fishing parties will go out there because the rigs the structure well a lot of the the food starts growing around the rigs you know and clings on to the to the legs and everything and that draws the smaller fish and then the smaller fish draw the big fish. And that's why the fishing is so good off of Grand Isle that's why they catch all those big fish. Interviewer: Are you allowed to just go out? 662: Mm-hmm yeah anybody can go out there and just get out there in your boat and go ahead and fish. They also have a scuba a rodeo out there. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Spear fishing and The little town doesn't look like much but there's riches off you know right out right out there in the gulf. Interviewer: Can you swim out there? 662: The beaches are filthy. There's a Interviewer: Oil spills and stuff? 662: Uh it's not necessarily oil spills, it's just that they use the gulf for a garbage can. You know what I mean? Interviewer: Yeah 662: And uh the beach is pretty messy there's a they swim out there. There's a a little park a little public park where I mean oh in the summer time you have Winnebagos and star crafts and apaches and tents and everything else. It's a popular spot. Interviewer: Yeah 662: And a lot of the richer people around here all have beautiful camps out there beautiful camps. Interviewer: #1 Was that area # 662: #2 Just go to relax. # Interviewer: Was that area hurt much when the the floods last year. By Lafourche and 662: No it doesn't get hurt from the floods it gets hurt from the hurricanes. I mean a whole island can get covered you know in no time at all when the hurricane's getting ready to hit. Interviewer: How come the the oil rigs stood up to the hurricanes or did they? 662: Oh yeah but an oil rig can withstand hurricane force plus more it really has to be a real bad storm to knock down a rig. Interviewer: So 662: Cause they usually keep a skeleton crew out there on the rig anyway during a hurricane. Interviewer: What do you mean a skeleton crew? 662: Just a few men Interviewer: {X} 662: I wouldn't either it's scary Interviewer: What about something that you hear making a noise around the lake at night? A little animal sort of thing hops around 662: A frog Interviewer: uh huh What do you call the big ones? 662: A bull frog Interviewer: mm-hmm And those little ones that come out after rain? 662: The little toad frogs the little rain frogs Interviewer: uh huh The toad frog stays on land doesn't he? 662: As far as I know Interviewer: uh huh What about um a hard shelled thing that can pull its neck and legs into its shell? 662: A snail no? Interviewer: No you know something that maybe like this and it can pull its neck and legs. 662: Oh a turtle Interviewer: uh huh Where do they stay? 662: Everywhere anywhere they want. Interviewer: Land or water? 662: Land and water Interviewer: uh huh What about the kind any special name for the kind that just stays in water or just stays in land or something? 662: Uh This is like a quiz because as far as I know it the kind that stays out in the deep water is called a sea turtle and the kind that just stays in the land like the desert is called a tortoise. Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear of a cooter? 662: Uh uh Interviewer: A gopher? And this is something that um when people eat it around here its got 662: Crabs crawfish Interviewer: mm-kay And say if you wanted to go fishing what would you dig up to go fishing with? 662: Worms Interviewer: Any special kinds or? 662: Red wigglers Interviewer: mm-hmm What about a little fish you can use for bait? 662: Shiners Interviewer: And say if um if you left a light on out on the porch an insect would fly around the light and try to fly into it that would be a? 662: Moth Interviewer: mm-kay And talking about several of those You'd talk about several? 662: Moths Interviewer: And what about the insect that has a light in its tail? 662: A firefly Interviewer: mm-kay any other name? 662: Lightning bug Interviewer: mm-kay And kind of a a kind of an insect that will bite you and make you itch? 662: {NW} There's plenty like that mosquito Interviewer: mm-kay What about an insect that's got it's about this size its got big wings on it shiny wings its got a long sort of beak it's supposed to eat mosquitoes? 662: Oh a mosquito hawk Interviewer: mm-kay Any other name for them? 662: Dragonfly Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever hear snake doctor or snake feeder 662: mm-mm Interviewer: And a little tiny um red insect that would get on you if you went blackberry picking? 662: Red ant I mean red bugs Interviewer: mm-kay Any other name for them? 662: Just red bugs down here Interviewer: What about a kind of insect that hops around in the grass? 662: Cricket, grasshopper Interviewer: Mm-kay did you ever hear them called hopper grass? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: And um the kind of insect that will sting you? What different? 662: A spider will sting you Interviewer: uh huh What do you call the the thing that a spider builds across a bush? 662: Web Interviewer: huh? 662: Spider web Interviewer: uh huh What about something similar to that up in the corner or ceiling of some place? 662: Cobweb Interviewer: mm-kay Would you ever call it a cobweb if it's outside? 662: No {NW} Interviewer: Would the spider have built the cobweb inside though? 662: Inside yeah Interviewer: And the kind of insect that flies around and that stings? You have bees and what else? 662: Hmm wasps Interviewer: You talk about several of those you talk about several? 662: Wasps Interviewer: mm-kay 662: {NW} Interviewer: What about um what else besides the wasps? 662: Yellow jackets hornets Interviewer: Where do yellow jackets build their nests? 662: I really don't know cause some of them they call dirt daubers and I don't know the difference between the dirt daubers and the the kind that bite and the kind doesn't bite. You know? Interviewer: What about um you know the parts of the tree {NW} that grow under the ground those are called? 662: Roots Interviewer: Did you ever hear of people using certain kinds of roots or vines for medicine? 662: I've heard of it yeah. Interviewer: Do you remember what any of the roots were? 662: Uh no Interviewer: What about um what different kinds of trees grow around here? 662: Cyprus Oak pine citrus {D: free da} trees different kinds mandarins grapefruit oranges uh cedar mimosa all that I can think of right now so. Interviewer: What about a kind of tree thats got long white limbs and white scaly bark that you can peel off got little knobs of balls on it? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Did you ever hear of syc- sycam- did you ever hear of sycamore? 662: I've heard of a sycamore tree but I wouldn't know what it looks like I couldn't identify one. Interviewer: What about the the kind of tree that George Washington cut down? 662: Cherry tree Interviewer: And the state tree from Louisiana? 662: Cyprus Interviewer: What about the state tree in Mississippi? 662: I don't know Interviewer: Well you know it's a real common tree I thought it was the state tree of Louisiana but its got um big white flowers. 662: Oh a magnolia Interviewer: uh huh 662: Really the state tree of Louisiana is the cypress the the flower is the magnolia but the state tree is the cypress. Interviewer: mm-kay 662: {NW} Interviewer: Any other name for the magnolia tree? 662: No Interviewer: Did you ever hear of cowcumber or cucumber? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: What about um the kind of tree that they tap for syrup? 662: Maple tree Interviewer: mm-kay If you had a big group of those growing together you'd call that a? 662: I don't know grow Interviewer: mm-kay and this is a kind of a a shrub or bush the leaves turn bright red in the fall its got clusters of berries on it? 662: Holly? Interviewer: Or the leaves turn red though. 662: Oh the leaves no I don't know. Interviewer: Did you ever hear of sumac or shoe-make? 662: Uh uh Interviewer: What about a kind of a flowering bush called rhododendron or spoon wood or mountain laurel you ever heard of those? 662: I've heard of them but I'm not a I'm not too much of a horticulturist I don't know too much about ah greenery and shrubs and I've heard of it you know. Interviewer: Which which ones have you heard of? 662: I've heard of rhododendron that's supposed to be a houseplant I believe {NW} pause in this houseplant I've heard of laurel but I don't know what um Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: it looks like. Interviewer: What um 662: {NW} Interviewer: different kinds of of berries grow around here? 662: Oh the black berry Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: and the dew berry which is almost the same thing but it's bigger I believe. {NW} Berries and then you have your holly berries your holly bushes. {NW} Interviewer: What about a a berry? 662: Strawberries Interviewer: uh huh I don't know if this grows around here but it's some of them are red some are red and black its got a rough surface to it. You ever hear it starts with an r? Ras- 662: raspberry Interviewer: uh huh Does that grow here? 662: Not that I know of {NW} Interviewer: What kinds of um bushes or vines would make your skin break out if you touched them? 662: Poison Ivy Interviewer: Anything else? 662: Poison oak {NW} Interviewer: uh huh How can you recognize them? 662: Poisons sumac my little girl is allergic to poison ivy and I I don't know well the poison ivy has the little a I think the three the cluster of three leaves. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: And the the runner you know the stem like it has a fuzzy appearance. Interviewer: mm-hmm What about the other thing you mentioned poison? 662: Poison oak and poison sumac but I don't know what it looks like. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: But I know my little girl is allergic to poison ivy. Interviewer: And um say if a married woman didn't want to make up her own mind about something she'd say well I have to ask? 662: You mean her partner? Her husband Interviewer: uh huh Any joking way she'd refer to him? 662: {NW} My better half Interviewer: mm-kay And what would he say he'd say I have to ask? 662: My old lady {NW} Interviewer: Or 662: My better half it all depends on how he feels about her. Interviewer: But what what just what other just common way 662: I have to ask my husband I have to ask my wife Interviewer: uh huh And a woman who has lost her husband she's called a? 662: Widow Interviewer: What if her husband just left her then she'd be a? 662: {NW} In a bad shape {C: laughter} Interviewer: Did you ever hear the expression grass widow? 662: Yeah I've heard the expression Interviewer: What's that? 662: A grass widow I guess that's what it means. Interviewer: {X} 662: No no Interviewer: And the man whose child you are he's your? 662: The man that's my father Interviewer: mm-kay and his wife is your? 662: My mother Interviewer: And together they're your? 662: Parents Interviewer: How did what did uh what did you call your father or what do children call their father now? 662: Daddy you mean the Interviewer: uh huh 662: common name daddy Interviewer: Is that what you called your father? 662: That's what I called my father daddy. Interviewer: What about um before that an old fashioned do people do people in say your mothers' generation do they use the word daddy? 662: Yeah Interviewer: What about your mother what did you call her? 662: Mama Interviewer: And your fathers' father would be your? 662: Down here they say grandpa or grandma Interviewer: And something on wheels that you could put a baby in and it will lie down? 662: Carriage Interviewer: mm-kay And you put the baby in the carriage and then you go out and what the baby? 662: Stroll Interviewer: And say you had two children you might say you have a son and a? 662: Daughter Interviewer: And if a boy has the same color hair and eyes as his father has and the same shaped nose you say that he? #1 What? # 662: #2 Resembles his father # Interviewer: Any other way of saying that? 662: Looks like his father. Interviewer: What if he has the same mannerisms and behaviors? 662: He's a carbon copy Interviewer: mm-kay And you say Bob is five inches taller this year you say in one year Bob? 662: Grew Interviewer: mm-kay and you say he certainly have? 662: Grown Interviewer: Mm-kay and if a child is misbehaving you tell them if you do that again you're gonna get a? 662: Whipping Interviewer: Anything else? 662: Punishment {NW} Interviewer: Uh huh and {NW} say if a if a woman was gonna have a child you say that she's? 662: Pregnant Interviewer: Any other way of saying that? 662: I I just say she's pregnant if she's gonna have a child. Interviewer: Uh huh when you were young did people use that word pregnant much? 662: Uh huh Interviewer: It it never sounded embarrassing to? 662: It was with I think the younger you are the the more you know when I was young I would get embarrassed until I reached a certain age. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Now my children think nothing of saying he's a queer he's pregnant I mean she's pregnant or he's gay you know and my my eight year old daughter will say oh he looks queer and when I was twelve I still didn't know what that mean you know that would be mean but kids now a days are so open but of course you watch television and that #1 you know # Interviewer: #2 hmm # 662: that's it or go to a show that's rated PG and you wish you wouldn't have sent them you know? Interviewer: Did that word queer um did you did it always I guess you you mean it uh #1 means homosexual # 662: #2 homosexual # yeah Interviewer: Did did it always have that meaning? 662: It didn't no it didn't always have that meaning. Interviewer: What did it used to mean? 662: Queer me- meant odd Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: You know when something's queer. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: You meant that it was odd. Interviewer: Did people ever used to use it as a noun with that old meaning like to say he's a queer but just meaning he's odd? #1 Or would they just say # 662: #2 No # They wouldn't say a queer you mean {X} you mean not meaning the homosexual meaning? Interviewer: Yeah #1 Just meaning it is odd # 662: #2 no # Interviewer: #1 or something # 662: #2 yeah # Right They'd say he's queer Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: means he's you know in those days {C: laughing} you know {C: laughing} but now a days it's different. I mean as far as I was concerned until I got older. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: You know now a today anything goes. Interviewer: Um what about a a did you ever hear any joking ways of saying somebody's pregnant? Any sort of vulgar ways of saying it or? 662: I'm trying to think of a joking way to say that somebody's pregnant she got caught. Interviewer: Did you ever hear she's um swallowed a pumpkin seed? 662: Oh yeah she swallowed a watermelon seed or something like that. Interviewer: Uh huh and a long time ago if you didn't have a doctor to deliver the baby the woman you'd send for? 662: Midwife Interviewer: Mm-kay And a child that is born to a woman that's not married? The child would be called a? 662: Illegitimate Interviewer: Or a more 662: Bastard Bastard Interviewer: Mm-kay Any other names besides bastard? 662: No Interviewer: Did you ever hear woods cult or grass cult or bush child or? 662: mm-mm Interviewer: And your brothers' son would be your? 662: Nephew Interviewer: And a child thats lost both parents would be a? 662: Orphan Interviewer: And a person that who's supposed to look after the orphan would be his? 662: Ward Interviewer: Or his legal? 662: Guardian Interviewer: And 662: No the child would be the ward. Right? Interviewer: Yeah I think so yeah ward is the same 662: Yeah Interviewer: Um if you had a lot of cousins and nephews and nieces around you'd say this town is full of my? 662: Relatives Interviewer: Or another name? 662: Kin Interviewer: Mm-kay And you say well she has the same family name and she looks like me but actually were no? 662: Relation Interviewer: And somebody comes into town and nobody's ever seen them before would be a? 662: Stranger Interviewer: And a woman who conducts school would be called a? 662: School teacher Interviewer: Mm-kay any special name for a woman school teacher? 662: No Interviewer: And are you familiar with the last name Cooper or {D: Couper}? 662: Am I familiar Interviewer: #1 with the last name? # Interviewer: #2 yeah # Interviewer: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # {X} Someone with that last name 662: Personally? Interviewer: Well have you 662: Have I ever heard it? Interviewer: Yeah would you say {D: Couper} or Cooper? 662: Cooper Interviewer: uh huh 662: Cooper Interviewer: What would you a married woman with that last name she'd be? 662: Mrs. Cooper {NW} Interviewer: And what relation would my mothers' sister be to me? 662: {NW} Your aunt Interviewer: Mm-kay And these are some names. The name of the mother of Jesus? 662: Mary Interviewer: And George Washington's wife? 662: Martha Interviewer: And do you remember this would be before your time I think but there is an old-fashion song going wait 'til the sunshine? 662: Nellie Interviewer: Mm-kay do you remember that song? 662: mm-hmm {NW} Interviewer: That's um what about what they call the male goat? 662: A male goat? {NW} A billy goat Interviewer: Mm-kay and the first book in the new testament in the Bible others are Mark Luke and John the first one is? 662: Matthew Interviewer: And the name of the wife of Abraham? 662: Mm I don't know.{C: laughing} Interviewer: Or a girls name that starts with an s? 662: The wife of Abraham? Interviewer: What are some common girls names starting with the letter s? 662: Common? Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Sharon Shirley Sherry Sharon Interviewer: #1 What about? # 662: #2 Sue # Interviewer: Well say Sally Sally is 662: #1 Sally # Interviewer: #2 is the nickname for? # 662: {D: Salomy} Interviewer: What did you ever hear would you say Sarah or Sarah? 662: #1 Sarah # Interviewer: #2 {X} # Huh? 662: Sarah Sarah Day Interviewer: Mm-kay And say a child named Bill is full name would be? 662: William Interviewer: And if your father had a brother and you called him by that full name you'd call him? 662: Uncle Interviewer: Uncle what? 662: You lost me again. Interviewer: Talking about the name William you'd call him? 662: And you'd call him by his full name? Interviewer: Yeah you'd call him? 662: Uncle Bill {NW} I did have an uncle Bill a great uncle. Interviewer: What about um do you remember President Kennedy's first name? 662: His first name was John. Interviewer: Mm-kay and if your father had a brother by that name you'd call him? 662: Uncle John Interviewer: And say uh a carpenter that's not not very good at making things just sort of a part time carpenter he's not not too good you call him a? 662: Jackleg Interviewer: Mm-kay what does that word jackleg mean? 662: I don't know I don't know but that's that's a common expression I don't know if for carpenter for anything that anyone that can't do anything too good. #1 A jackleg # Interviewer: #2 uh huh # 662: he can make do and that's it Interviewer: Yeah 662: You know? Interviewer: Would you talk about a jackleg preacher? 662: No Interviewer: Oh 662: I've only heard of jackleg being used in reference to a a laborer Interviewer: hmm 662: sorts like you know #1 a carpenter or plumber or something like that. # Interviewer: #2 a carpenter # 662: #1 Right # Interviewer: #2 mechanic # 662: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # Would the person be insulted though to be called a jackleg? 662: Yeah Interviewer: And the highest rank in the army? 662: General Interviewer: Mm-kay and beneath the general? 662: Colonel {NW} Interviewer: And the person in charge of the ship? 662: In charge of the ship? Would be the captain Interviewer: Did you ever hear that word captain used um maybe by black people to the men they worked for or anything like that? 662: Uh huh Interviewer: What would they say? 662: They would the captain Interviewer: Uh huh 662: Captain Interviewer: Who all would use that? 662: I think you know um because somebody is a boss I guess. Interviewer: mm-hmm And the person who presides over a court would be called a? 662: Judge Interviewer: And someone who goes to school? 662: Student Interviewer: And a person who works in the office and does the typing and so forth would be a? 662: Clerk Interviewer: Or takes care of the 662: Secretary Interviewer: Mm-kay And a man on the stage would be an actor a women would be a? 662: Actress Interviewer: And if you are born in the United States you'd say your nationality is? 662: American Interviewer: And {NW} what different terms are there for blacks? What do people use to? 662: Niggers Interviewer: uh huh 662: Jigaboos Interviewer: Is that just a joking term jigaboo? 662: Jigaboos niggers um spade Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Coon Interviewer: What about the um the real name though? 662: #1 What is the real name? # Interviewer: #2 Yeah # 662: A Negro Interviewer: Mm-kay um and how would you normally well you'd say were not were not black we're? 662: White Interviewer: Any other terms for white people? 662: Caucasian Interviewer: Mm-kay What about um a child that's born that one parent's white and the other parent's black? 662: {NW} Mixed breed you'd call them a high yellow. Interviewer: Mm-kay High yellow means light light skinned? 662: mm-hmm Mulatto Interviewer: And did you ever hear of {D:reject} 662: uh uh Interviewer: And um what about white people that that you sort of look down on their their poor but 662: White trash {NW} Interviewer: Um what do Negroes call white people like that? That they don't like. 662: Honkeys Interviewer: Uh huh Does that mean just any white person or? 662: Any white person I think. Interviewer: Any other terms for 662: Whitey Interviewer: uh huh And um someone who lives out in the country and he doesn't get into town much and when he does get into town per people can tell he's from way out in the country they call him a? 662: Hick Interviewer: Mm-kay 662: And over here a gee gee {NW} Interviewer: A what? 662: A gee gee Interviewer: What does that mean. A gee gee? 662: Yeah they the people used to say boy he's a gee gee. That's what they used to call them down here. Instead of a hick a gee gee was like a like what the French people used to say. He dresses like a gee gee. Interviewer: Huh I never heard of that. What different names are there for the French people down here? 662: Whatcha mean? Interviewer: #1 You mentioned the word # 662: #2 Cajun coonass # Interviewer: Is coonass a very insulting word? 662: Not to the coonasses it isn't {C: laughing} {NW} Interviewer: What other word besides coonass? 662: Cajun Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear of the word boogalee? 662: Boogalee yeah Interviewer: What does that mean? um someone mentioned it but I never 662: Well Interviewer: was clear 662: Uh I I'm not really sure on this but you know like a boog is a boy a young boy and a boogalee is a little girl. You know? A boog and boogalee a boy and a girl Interviewer: A boog is? 662: Boy Interviewer: In French? 662: Well I don't I don't know if because um I think I don't know what it is if it would be Creole or {D: mixturation} or whatever you would call it but you know I have heard them say boog and boogalee. Or yeah boog you know Interviewer: Boog a it 662: #1 It would mean boy # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 662: in in this down here I I think I'm not sure but I think that's what they call boog or boogalee Interviewer: And boogalee is a little girl? 662: Yeah That's the way I knew it you know. But I haven't heard that expression boogalee in a long time. Interviewer: Did you ever um the person that told me that said it just means the same as Cajun or coonass you know did you ever heard boogalee just to mean Cajun? 662: I don't think so not it I'm not sure You know it's been a long time since I've heard that expression. Interviewer: What um what about the terms cracker or redneck or? 662: Redneck Interviewer: Uh huh 662: That means a Mississippian {D: A stump jumper too} Interviewer: What other terms like that have you heard from people from different areas? 662: Well down here they call us a swamp stomper. Interviewer: #1 Swamp stomper? # 662: #2 Stomper # Interviewer: #1 # 662: #2 # Interviewer: #1 Just people who live # 662: #2 Webb feet # Interviewer: uh huh 662: They call us web feet too. Interviewer: {NW} 662: And um Interviewer: Are those insulting words? 662: No Interviewer: Or just just joking 662: Joking yeah you know I don't know what you'd call a Yankee somebody up north. Interviewer: mm-hmm Say um if you were at a party you might say well, you might look at your watch and say um say if it is around 11:30 or so you'd say well we better be getting home it's what midnight it's? 662: Almost Interviewer: Mm-kay and say if you were walking on some icy ground you'd say this ice is pretty hard to walk on I didn't actually fall down but a couple of times I slipped and I I like I like to 662: I like to have fallen Interviewer: Mm-kay And if someone's waiting for you to get ready to go somewhere he calls out and ask if you'll be ready soon you'd say I'll be with you in? 662: A minute Interviewer: Or just? 662: In just a minute Interviewer: Mm-kay And this part of my head is called my? 662: Forehead Interviewer: And this is my? 662: Hair Interviewer: And on a man hair here would be a? 662: Beard Interviewer: And this is my? 662: Ear Interviewer: Which one? 662: {NW} Your left ear Interviewer: And this is my? 662: Right ear Interviewer: And? 662: Lips Interviewer: Or the whole thing? 662: Mouth Interviewer: And this is the? 662: Neck Interviewer: And this? 662: Throat Interviewer: What about the part that um that you swallow down or breathe down? 662: Your thr- mouth your throat Interviewer: Did you ever hear of goozle? 662: Oh yeah his goozle pipe. Interviewer: Wait what's the goozle pipe? 662: The esophagus I guess Interviewer: It's what you swallow down. 662: Yeah Interviewer: And these are my? 662: Teeth Interviewer: And this is one? 662: Tooth Interviewer: And the flesh around your teeth? 662: Gums Interviewer: And this is one? 662: Hand Interviewer: Two? 662: Hands Interviewer: And this is the? 662: Palm Interviewer: Did you ever hear that called the pan? 662: A what? Interviewer: The pan of your hand 662: uh uh Interviewer: And this is one? 662: Fist Interviewer: Two? 662: Fists Interviewer: And this is my? 662: Leg Interviewer: And this sensitive bone here? 662: Shin Interviewer: And say if I get down like this you say I? 662: Squatting stooping Interviewer: uh huh Did you ever hear the expression down on your hunkers or your haunches 662: uh uh Interviewer: Did you ever hear a name for this back part of your thigh? 662: uh uh Interviewer: And a place where the bones come together that's called? 662: Joints Interviewer: And this is one? 662: Foot Interviewer: And I have two? 662: Feet Interviewer: And on a man this part of his body is his? 662: Chest Interviewer: And these are the? 662: Shoulders Interviewer: And say if someone had been sick for awhile you'd say well he's up and about now but he still looks a bit? 662: Peaked Interviewer: Mm-kay and someone who is in in good shape you say he's big and? 662: Healthy Interviewer: Mm-kay any or if he can lift heavy weights you say he's? 662: Fit Interviewer: He's not weak he's? 662: Strong Interviewer: Uh huh What about someone who is getting a little but over weight but he's still strong? 662: Pudgy Interviewer: Mm-kay did you ever say stout or husky or? 662: Yeah husky to me is more muscular than anything else. Interviewer: What about stout? 662: Stout would be fat. Interviewer: mm-hmm Would he still be strong or? 662: He wouldn't be healthy Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: He could still be strong but he wouldn't be as healthy Interviewer: uh huh and someone um who is easy to get along with doesn't lose their temper is always smiling you say that that person is? 662: Easy going good humored Interviewer: Mm-kay And someone like a teenaged boy who seems to be just all arms and legs? 662: Lanky Interviewer: Mm-kay Or who is always stumbling and dropping things? 662: Clumsy Interviewer: And if a person keeps on doing things that don't make any sense you say he's just a plain? 662: Weirdo {NW} Interviewer: Or he he just doesn't seem to have any sense at all. 662: Nuts Crazy Interviewer: Uh huh would you ever call him a fool? 662: No Interviewer: Would would you ever 662: a fool is someone who had a joke played on them Interviewer: Uh huh so just like 662: Or someone that would a a fool you know would he's a fool like you know like he is doing something out of better judgment but he is capable of doing better you know he is acting like a fool right now or in other words someone is making a fool out of him. Interviewer: mm-hmm is it do you ever hesitate to use the word fool I mean does it sound sort of 662: #1 No no # Interviewer: #2 {X} # 662: #1 # Interviewer: #2 # What about someone who has plenty of money but he never spends a cent? You'd call him a? 662: Miser Interviewer: What other terms do people have? 662: Tight Interviewer: uh huh did you ever hear of tight wad or 662: Tight wad mm Interviewer: Did you ever hear the word {D:dago news} to mean a miser? 662: No Interviewer: Did you ever hear that word at all? 662: Oh yeah Interviewer: To mean? 662: A dago means an Italian Interviewer: Uh huh someone recently told me the word and used it to mean a miser I was just wondering. 662: I've never heard it used as a miser. {NW} Interviewer: And when you say that a person is common what does that mean? 662: He doesn't stand out. Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: He's common he doesn't have any outstanding characteristics or you know Interviewer: mm-hmm Do you sort of look down on them then? 662: No Interviewer: But would he be insulted if you called him common? 662: I don't know it all depends on the person. Interviewer: mm-hmm what if you said a girl was very common what would that mean? 662: A girl very common I imagine would be referred to as a plain Jane. If a girl would be common Interviewer: It would be just appearance or something? 662: Yeah I think it all depends on which way that you are using it. Interviewer: mm-hmm Did you ever use it a would it ever be complimentary to say that a person is common or girl is common? 662: I guess you could it all depends on ah on the you know Interviewer: mm-hmm 662: which way you using it. Interviewer: What about an old person maybe up in their eighties that still gets around real well doesn't show it's age you'd say that for his age he's still mighty what? 662: Peppy Interviewer: Mm-kay and say if your children were out later than usual you say well I don't guess there is anything wrong but still I can't help feeling a little? 662: Worried about them Interviewer: Or a little 662: Concerned Interviewer: uh huh you say you wouldn't feel easy you'd say you felt? 662: I don't know what you are trying to say feel at ease Interviewer: uh huh and you might say well they'll be home alright just don't? 662: Worry Interviewer: And a child might say I'm not gonna go upstairs in the dark I'm 662: Afraid Interviewer: Mm-kay and you say well I don't see why she's afraid now she? 662: Never used to be Interviewer: Mm-kay and would would you say she didn't used to be or usen't to be or 662: No {NW} Interviewer: Mm-kay and somebody who leaves a lot of money on the table and goes outside and doesn't even bother to lock the door you'd say he's mighty what with his money? 662: Foolish Interviewer: Or he just leaves it laying around he's to? 662: Trusting Interviewer: Mm-kay or he doesn't he doesn't watch over it like he should he just he just leaves it scattered around you say that he's awfully? 662: Careless Interviewer: Mm-kay and a person that you can't argue with they they're going to do things their way and they won't listen to. 662: Hardheaded Interviewer: huh 662: Hardheaded Interviewer: Mm-kay any other terms? 662: Stubborn Interviewer: And somebody that you can't joke with without him losing his temper someone who is just super sensitive you'd say that he's? 662: Over sensitive Interviewer: Or any other terms? 662: Touchy Interviewer: Mm-kay and what about fretful did you ever say that? 662: uh uh Interviewer: And you'd say well I was just kidding him I didn't know he'd get so? 662: Upset Interviewer: Mm-kay or all the sudden he got really? 662: Upset {C: laughing} {NW} Interviewer: Um did you ever say head up or owie or mad 662: Angry mad Interviewer: Mm-kay and you'd someone was about to lose their temper you'd might tell them to just keep? 662: Your cool Interviewer: Mm-kay or another way of saying that just keep? 662: Calm Interviewer: And if you had been working very hard you'd say you were very? 662: Tired Interviewer: Mm-kay any other ways of saying that? 662: Pooped Interviewer: Mm-kay or you'd say I'm just completely ? 662: Dragged out Interviewer: Mm-kay or using the expression wear out you say I'm just completely? 662: Worn Interviewer: Huh? 662: I'm just completely worn out Interviewer: Mm-kay and say if a person had been well and suddenly here they have some disease you might say well last time I saw them they were fine when was it that they? 662: got sick Interviewer: Mm-kay interviewer: And out in bad weather you came in and was sneezing and his eyes were running and everything you'd say that he? 662: Was catching a cold. interviewer: Or that had happened. You say yesterday he? 662: Caught a cold. interviewer: And if he if he couldn't talk right then you say he sounded? 662: Horse interviewer: Mm-kay and {C:Coughing}if you do that you have a? You go like that you call that a? 662: Oh a cough. interviewer: Mm-kay and if you got someone some medicine and went in and still saw the medicine there by their bed you say why haven't you? 662: Taken your medicine. interviewer: And the person might say I already? 662: Took it interviewer: Mm-kay and if you can't hear anything at all you say that you're? 662: Deaf interviewer: And say if a man had been out working out in the sun and he takes off his shirt and it's all wet he'd say look how much I? 662: Sweat interviewer: Mm-kay And a sore that comes to a head is called a? 662: A sore that comes to a head? interviewer: Uh huh yeah a little lump. 662: A boil interviewer: Mm-kay what if its got more than one head to it would you have a special name for it? 662: Not that I know of. interviewer: What about um when the boil opens the stuff that drains out? 662: Puss interviewer: And when a blister opens? 662: I'd just call that fluid. interviewer: Mm-kay and you say a bee stung me and my hand did what? 662: My hand got swollen. interviewer: Mm-kay you say right after um after the bee stung me my hand? 662: Begin to swell. interviewer: It or it it did what? 662: It swelled up. interviewer: Mm-kay and if someone got shot or stabbed you'd say you have to get a doctor to look at the? 662: Wound interviewer: And you know sometimes a a wound won't heal back right its got to be cut out of burned out? 662: Cauterized interviewer: Well did you ever hear it called some kind of flesh? 662: Proud flesh interviewer: Mm-hmm and if you get a little cut on your finger a medicine that stings that you can put on it? 662: Iodine interviewer: What about a a real bitter medicine that people used to have to take? 662: Quinine interviewer: Mm-kay and if someone was shot and didn't get any better you'd say? {C:Sneeze} Well the doctor did all he could but still the man? 662: Still the man still the man what remains ill? Is still sick? interviewer: Or if he didn't live you say he? 662: Died interviewer: Any nicer ways of saying somebody died? 662: Passed away interviewer: Mm-kay what about a a crude way of saying it? 662: Croaked interviewer: Mm-kay 662: Kicked the bucket interviewer: And you say he's been dead a week yet nobody's figured out yet what he died? 662: Of interviewer: And the place where people are buried? 662: Cemetery graveyard Mausoleum {C:Laughing} interviewer: The mausoleum is is the big? 662: That's the big granite buildings that they have. interviewer: Is that owned by a family or is it just? 662: Well each family buys a a spot you know a grave I mean you know a vault in other words. interviewer: #1 What about # 662: #2 They don't have mausoleums in # Atlanta interviewer: uh uh 662: Really? interviewer: Everything's just very you know in the south but I think the water level is so high here that they have to. 662: Well you know it's just an I guess it's been in the past maybe ten fifteen years that the mausoleums started getting popular around here. Maybe fifteen years ago it started. Now there's a lot of them. interviewer: mm-hmm what about the thing that that you put the body in? 662: Coffin interviewer: Uh huh and the ceremony at the cemetery is called a? 662: Burial rights interviewer: Mm-kay well you would say he was an important man everybody went to his? 662: Funeral interviewer: And if people are dressed in black you say that they are in? 662: Mourning interviewer: And say on an average sort of day if somebody asked you how you were feeling you'd say oh I'm? 662: Fine interviewer: And when you are getting old and your joints start hurting you say you've got? 662: Arthritis interviewer: Mm-kay any old fashioned name for that? 662: Rheumatism interviewer: And this is a disease that children used to get they'd get a really bad sore throat and they would choke up? 662: {C:Coughing} Diphtheria interviewer: Mm-kay and the disease where your skin and eyeballs turn yellow? 662: Jaundice interviewer: And when you have a pain down here? 662: Appendicitis interviewer: Mm-kay any old fashioned name for that? 662: No interviewer: And if someone ate something that didn't agree with them and it came back up you'd say he had to? 662: Vomit interviewer: Any other ways of saying that? 662: Puke Throw up interviewer: Which sounds how how do those sound to you which sound? 662: They're all repulsive {C: laughing} I always use vomit myself. interviewer: Does throw up sound prude or? 662: No really throw up sounds better because there is something vulgar about vomit and puke but I always use vomit you know. interviewer: Puke sounds the worst. 662: Yeah I think so {C:Laughing} interviewer: Say if a person vomited you'd say he was sick where? 662: Of the stomach interviewer: Mm-kay and say um you say that's the book that you what me for Christmas? That you 662: Gave interviewer: Mm-kay you say you have 662: Given interviewer: Mm-kay and say if a if a boy kept on going over to the same girls house and spending a lot of time with her you'd say that he was? 662: Courting her interviewer: Mm-kay 662: #1 Going # interviewer: #2 and # 662: steady I got to go to the bathroom. interviewer: He was courting her then he would be called her? 662: Boyfriend interviewer: And she would be his? 662: Girlfriend interviewer: And if a boy came home with lipstick on his collar his little brother would say that he had been? 662: Kissing her interviewer: Mm-kay any old fashioned named for kissing? 662: Smooching interviewer: Mm-kay {C:Coughing} and when the girl stops letting the boy come over to see her you'd say she? 662: Broke up with him. interviewer: mm-kay and you say he asked her to marry him but she? 662: Refused interviewer: Any other ways of saying that? 662: Turned him down. interviewer: mm-kay and they were engaged and all the sudden she? 662: Broke up interviewer: mm-kay 662: Broke off interviewer: But if she didn't say if he asked her to marry him and she didn't turn him down you say they went ahead and got? 662: Married interviewer: Any joking ways of saying marriage? 662: Hitched interviewer: mm-kay did you ever hear jump? 662: #1 Uh uh # interviewer: #2 Jumped the broomstick? # And at a wedding the boy that stands up with the groom is the? 662: Best man interviewer: And the woman that stands up with the bride? 662: Matron or maid of honor. interviewer: mm-kay and do you remember a long time ago if people were getting married other people in the community would come by and make a lot of noise and? 662: mm-mm interviewer: Did you ever hear of a shivaree or {X} 662: mm-mm I've never heard of that interviewer: It is sort of a celebration they used to have real noisy. 662: I've never heard of that interviewer: Say if um if last um if you were in New Orleans last week you'd say last week I went? 662: To New Orleans interviewer: Would you ever say down or up or over? 662: Yeah interviewer: What would you say? 662: Well {NW} it all depends on which way I'm going. interviewer: which 662: you know interviewer: which way 662: Like a a popular uh example is people that live below {D: Lafourche} they always it's always referred to as they live down the bayou. interviewer: Uh huh 662: You know or y'all come on over. interviewer: mm-hmm #1 What about # 662: #2 Or he's going across town. # interviewer: mm-hmm where where would you say up? Ha how would you say? 662: Up north interviewer: Uh huh 662: Or come up to my house you know something like that. interviewer: And say if there was trouble at a party you'd say the police came and they didn't arrest just one of two of them they arrested the? 662: Whole bunch interviewer: And any other words besides bunch you'd use? 662: The whole gang. interviewer: mm-kay and if children get out of school at four oh clock you say at four oh clock school? 662: Lets out interviewer: And after vacation children would ask when does school? 662: Start again {C:Coughing} interviewer: And if a chlid left home to go to school and did not show up in school that day you'd say she did what? 662: Played hooky interviewer: And after kindergarten you go into the? 662: First grade interviewer: Any old name for first grade? 662: No interviewer: And you say years ago children sat on benches at school but now they sit at? 662: Desks interviewer: mm-kay and each child has his own? 662: Desk interviewer: And if you wanted to check out a book you'd go to the? 662: Library interviewer: And to mail a package? 662: Post office interviewer: And you'd stay overnight at a strange town at a? 662: Hotel or motel hotel interviewer: mm-hmm and you see a play of a movie at a? 662: Theater interviewer: And if you had to have an operation you'd go to the? 662: Hospital interviewer: And the woman that would look after you? 662: A nurse interviewer: And you catch a train at the? 662: Depot interviewer: Any other name for that? 662: Station interviewer: The rail the what station? 662: Railroad station interviewer: And say two streets cross like say they cross like this and you are at one corner here and you want to get over to this corner instead of walking like this you walk this way you say you are walking? 662: You jaywalking interviewer: {D: Did you ever hear you walking cattywampus or kitty-corner or annie} {X} 662: I've heard the expression catty corner interviewer: What does that mean? 662: Well it's when something won't fit like you you have a a piece of furniture or something and it fits across and not flush it's catty corner. interviewer: mm-hmm what what do you mean like it's? 662: Catty-corner you know in other words you still like have a tri- you have a triangular space left in the back of it. interviewer: Uh huh 662: You going across the corner #1 but I have never heard of # interviewer: #2 {X} # 662: catty corner used for people who jaywalk. interviewer: mm-hmm say if um what they used to have before they had buses in town the thing that would run on tracks and? 662: Street car, Trolley interviewer: mm-kay is that the same thing? 662: Well ah no yeah a street car runs on tracks train runs on tracks. Trolley interviewer: Are a street car and a trolley the same thing? 662: Yeah interviewer: And you tell the bus driver this next corner is where I? 662: Get off interviewer: mm-kay and say if you were a post master you'd be working for the federal? 662: Government interviewer: And the police in town are supposed to maintain? 662: Law and order interviewer: And the fight between the north and the south was called the? 662: Civil War interviewer: Any old fashioned names for that? 662: War between the states. interviewer: mm-kay and before they had the electric chair murderers were? 662: Hung interviewer: mm-kay you say that man went out and what himself? 662: Hung himself. interviewer: And you say um horses gallop but people? 662: Walk interviewer: Or go faster than walk? 662: Run interviewer: mm-kay you say he was feeling so good that he? 662: Ran interviewer: Huh? 662: Ran interviewer: mm-kay you say he has? 662: Run interviewer: mm-kay and um you say I'm glad I carried my umbrella cause we hadn't gone half a block when it? 662: Started to rain. {C:Laughing} interviewer: And you'd ask somebody what time does the movie? 662: Start interviewer: Or another word for that? 662: Begin interviewer: mm-kay you say it must've already? 662: Begun interviewer: And ten minutes ago it? 662: Began interviewer: And the biggest city in the country is in? 662: New York interviewer: Okay and Baltimore is in? 662: Baltimore is in Maryland. {NW} interviewer: mm-kay and Richmond's the capital of? 662: Virginia interviewer: And Tulsa is in? 662: Oklahoma interviewer: And Boston? 662: Massachusetts interviewer: And the states form Maine to Connecticut are called the? 662: New England states. interviewer: And what are some what are the states in the south? 662: The southern states interviewer: And what what are some of the states? 662: Um Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee Little Rock I mean Arkansas {C:Laughing} interviewer: What what about above Arkansas? 662: That would be the middle interviewer: Of what state is that? 662: That's Missouri. interviewer: Uh huh what about the the bigger city is Missouri? 662: Saint Louis interviewer: What about the state just above Tennessee? 662: Just above Tennessee is ah Kentucky I believe. interviewer: mm-kay and um what are some of the um cities in Tennessee? 662: Chattanooga Nashville Memphis {NW} interviewer: And in east Tennessee? 662: I don't know. interviewer: In the mountains? 662: Lookout mountain Tennessee. #1 I don't know # interviewer: #2 Did you ever hear # Knox Knox 662: Knoxville interviewer: Uh huh 662: Yeah interviewer: And the biggest city in Maryland? 662: I guess the biggest city in Maryland is Baltimore. interviewer: And the capital of the United States? 662: Washington D.C. interviewer: And the big city in Illinois? 662: Chicago interviewer: And city in South Carolina? 662: Raleigh I believe Raleigh? interviewer: Or 662: is in North Carolina. interviewer: North that's North Carolina. 662: North Carolina South Carolina. interviewer: The old sea port that that old southern town? 662: I don't know interviewer: Char 662: Oh Charleston interviewer: Uh huh 662: {C:Laughing} interviewer: What are some of the cities in Alabama? 662: In Alabama? {NW} Mobile interviewer: mm-hmm 662: Montgomery interviewer: The big steel making city? Starts with a B 662: Birmingham interviewer: And the city up in the mountains of North Carolina? 662: Was that Raleigh? interviewer: It's 662: Durham interviewer: Near there did you ever hear ash? Asheville 662: Uh Uh interviewer: And what are some of the cities in Georgia? 662: Georgia? Atlanta Georgia Columbus Georgia I'm not too familiar with Georgia. I know Columbus. interviewer: What about the city right in the middle of Georgia? It starts with an M? 662: {X} interviewer: Ma- 662: Macon Georgia interviewer: Uh huh and the uh sea port in Georgia? Starts with a S. 662: Savannah {C:Laughing} interviewer: And the biggest city in Kentucky? 662: In Kentucky? Oh brother interviewer: Where they have the the Derby. 662: Yeah where? I don't know interviewer: Starts with a L. 662: Louisville Kentucky interviewer: And the biggest city in Southern Ohio? 662: Akron interviewer: Or another one 662: Cincinnati interviewer: And the biggest cities in Louisiana? 662: Baton Rouge New Orleans Shreveport, Monroe {C:Laughing} interviewer: And you say Belfast is in? 662: Ireland interviewer: And Paris? 662: France interviewer: And Moscow? 662: Moscow {C: laughing} Russia interviewer: And say if um someone asked you to go with them someplace and you're not sure you want to you'd say I don't know what I wanna go or not? 662: I don't know if I want to go or not. interviewer: mm-kay and if you want somebody to go with you, you say well I won't go? 662: Unless you come interviewer: And you say I had a choice of two things and I was going to do this but I decided to do that? 662: Instead interviewer: And one of the largest protestant denominations in the south? 662: Baptist interviewer: And if two people become members to the church you say they? They what the church? 662: Joined interviewer: And you go to church to pray to? 662: God interviewer: And the preacher preaches the? 662: Sermon interviewer: And the choir and the organist provide the? 662: The choir and the organs provide the music. interviewer: mm-kay and the enemy of God is called the? 662: Devil interviewer: What other names for him? 662: You mean like Satan? interviewer: Uh huh 662: Lucifer interviewer: What would you tell children was gonna come and get them if they didn't behave? 662: What say that again now. interviewer: What would you tell children was gonna come get them if they didn't behave? 662: The devil interviewer: Uh huh did you ever hear him called the the dragon or 662: mm-mm interviewer: boogeyman? 662: Oh the boogeyman. interviewer: Is that the same? 662: The boogeyman down here wouldn't be considered the Devil though. interviewer: #1 What what # 662: #2 The booger man is just # a monster of some kind you know? interviewer: What do people think they see around a graveyard at night? To frighten them. 662: A vision interviewer: Or or just around the graveyard or? 662: Wait now say that again. interviewer: What do people think that they see around the graveyard at night? 662: Ghosts interviewer: mm-kay and a house that people are scared to go in? 662: Haunted house. interviewer: Do you ever hear any stories about haunted houses being around here? 662: mm-hmm interviewer: Where where are they? 662: Um in New Orleans they had one. They were shown on television last week that was the second in the series of haunted houses in New Orleans. And then down here the people used to talk about the fifolets. {C: French} Anybody ever tell you about the fifolets? {C: French} interviewer: What's that? 662: Well that was supposed to be death warnings that the older people used. Now my mother still believes in this. interviewer: They call this the fif-? 662: Fifolets {C: French} And uh I mean a lot of people still believe in it and uh it was like what they call omens or death warnings like um furniture would move or ah. Now this happened to my mother before somebody died I can't recall who it was the um they had candlesticks on the mantelpiece you know and the candlesticks would get up and move and float around and ah. When my daddy was working in Thibodaux at the water plant they he had doors that would open up there and the next day the man that was his coworker that would come on the next shift had died. And then a nun that taught me in high school said that she had gotten all packed she didn't even have any trip planned and everything but she don't know why she had her clothes packed then she received word that her parents died her mother died. And um just different things like that you know a lot of the old people can tell you about fifolets {C: French} down here you know and death warnings. It wasn't just the screech owls there was other things that would happen chairs would rock and stuff like that they'd hear noises. {C: telephone ringing} Hello? interviewer: What is Did y'all have a celebration? 662: mm-mm no cause they took off and went fishing. {C: Laughter} She brought him some biscuits at work. interviewer: How was the confirmation? 662: {NS} Fine it went along real good. It was brief. No my sister my sister-in-law the one that called me from home awhile ago knows how nervous I am when I get in closed places you know and usually when I go to church I have to sit way to the back. Cause I can get so high on oxygen I'll hyperventilate, boy. Huh Get all shook up you know when I have people all around me. So she wanted to know how I made out I told her fine. She was worried. Cause I don't know if I could make it. interviewer: How many people were confirmed last night? 662: I don't know I I guess about um eighty. interviewer: Gosh 662: I imagine close to eighty kids were confirmed last night. interviewer: They're they're confirmed when they're fourteen years old? 662: In the eighth grade eighth grade catechism. interviewer: I didn't have any idea it would be that many. 662: Oh yeah well like I said it's predominantly Catholic down here anyway you know. And that's small comparing to the the way it is in Thibodaux. In the big church at Saint Joseph. interviewer: Do they have a cathedral in Thibodaux? 662: It it's not a cathedral but it is a beautiful church it's worth looking at. That alter is spectacular. And that dome on the top is beautiful. interviewer: The newest cathedral would be the one in New Orleans? 662: Saint Louis cathedral yeah. interviewer: Was that that the one in the quarter? 662: Yeah right but Saint Joseph's has a beautiful church it's on the boulevard right there in Thibodaux. interviewer: Do y'all go to midnight mass on Christmas Day? 662: On oh it's been years since I've gone to midnight mass uh that's too rough. {C:Laughter} Once I get beyond a certain uh point if I stay awake then I can't go to sleep after that. interviewer: Yeah 662: That's why when we go to a movie I like to go to the early movie so I am back home early. interviewer: Y'all have to come back and then put out Christmas for the kids? 662: Oh how many times do I have to put part A to part B and read the instructions over and over and over again. interviewer: #1 {NW} # 662: #2 Mm # interviewer: Did you ever hear anything about voodoo or hoodoo? 662: Yeah voodoo yeah interviewer: Did you ever hear of it being practiced around here? 662: I think it is uh but you know it it's not common but it's still practiced down here. interviewer: Do you know what sort of things they do or anything like that? 662: Uh not really not really. interviewer: Did you ever hear of grigri? 662: Grigri yeah somebody's gonna put a grigri on you. interviewer: Does that mean just put a spell on you? 662: Yeah or something you want something to happen to somebody or something like that. Or you don't want something to go right for somebody you know. Say I'll put a grigri on you. interviewer: Say if um you might tell someone you better um put a sweater on it's getting? 662: Chilly interviewer: mm-kay and you say well I'll go with you if you really want me to but I'd what stay here? I'd 662: Rather interviewer: mm-kay and you throw a ball and you ask somebody to? 662: Catch it interviewer: mm-kay and I threw the ball and he? 662: Caught it interviewer: And you say I've been fishing but I haven't? 662: Caught anything interviewer: mm-kay and you say um with your eyes you? 662: See interviewer: And you say I what through outside? 662: Saw interviewer: And say a a friend of yours that um you hadn't been around for a long time when you saw them what how would you express your feelings? You'd say I'm? 662: So happy to see you. interviewer: mm-kay do you ever say proud to see you? 662: Uh uh interviewer: You ever hear that around here? 662: Uh uh interviewer: And say someone owned about five hundred acres of land you'd say that would be? How much land that be a? What of land? 662: A large track of land. interviewer: mm-hmm would you ever say it would be a right smart of land? 662: Uh uh I've never heard that. interviewer: And you say it wasn't just a little cold this morning it was? 662: Cold interviewer: Or 662: Very cold interviewer: Or 662: Damn cold {C: Laughing} interviewer: And 662: We're very colorful down here maybe offensive to some people but we curse a lot. interviewer: What's a thing of like say if a man got mad and hit his thumb hammering or something what sorta of things would he say? 662: Ah he'd curse plenty. interviewer: What sort of curses? What what sort of expressions do people use? 662: Down here? interviewer: Uh-huh 662: he'd say god damn son of a bitch that's that's what he'd say automatically. {NW} Very common interviewer: What sorta of things like if you were sort of disgusted with yourself just peeved with yourself or something what what explanation would you use? What what would you probably say if you just got so disgusted with something you've done? 662: What exclamation I'd use? interviewer: Yeah I mean what 662: {C: Laughter} I know what I'd say it would be profane again you know. interviewer: What would you say? 662: I'd say oh shit! You know {C: Laughter} interviewer: What about if um what would someone say if they were excited about something? I mean they just 662: He's all hyped up about something. interviewer: Or I mean what exclamation would would they say if they say some. 662: Oh Lord you mean something like that? interviewer: Uh huh 662: That's it I guess. He'd say oh Lord you know. interviewer: mm-kay and say if someone says something kind of shocking and you sort of resented them saying it you might say well they're very? {X} 662: Nerve interviewer: Or the very i-? The very what of you saying that? The very 662: The very idea of you saying that. interviewer: mm-kay and when a friend of yours says good morning what might you ask them then? 662: How do you do? interviewer: Or would you if you're 662: #1 asking # interviewer: #2 Good # 662: morning interviewer: Yeah #1 You're asking # 662: #2 You would ask them a question? # interviewer: Yeah if you are asking them about their health. You'd say? 662: How do you feel? interviewer: mm-kay what about when you are introduced to a stranger? 662: How do you do? interviewer: mm-kay and on December twenty-fifth you tell somebody? 662: It's Jesus's birthday, Christmas. interviewer: mm-kay what greeting? 662: Merry Christmas interviewer: mm-kay did you ever hear any other greetings at Christmas? 662: Merry Christmas Happy Holidays interviewer: Did you ever hear people say Christmas gift? 662: Christmas gift? interviewer: Uh huh 662: Uh uh interviewer: As a greeting? 662: Uh uh interviewer: What about on the first of January? 662: Happy New Year interviewer: mm-kay and you say that would be a hard mountain to? 662: Climb interviewer: But last year my neighbor? 662: Climbed it interviewer: But I have never? 662: Climbed it interviewer: And you say I have to go downtown to do some? What? 662: Shopping interviewer: mm-kay and say if you bought something you'd say? The store keeper took out a piece of paper and what it up? 662: Folded it interviewer: Or the purchase he? 662: Wrapped it up. interviewer: mm-kay then when I got home I? 662: Opened it. interviewer: Or he wrapped it and then I? 662: Unwrapped it interviewer: And if you had to sell something for two dollars that you paid three dollars for you'd be selling it? 662: At a loss interviewer: mm-kay and say if you liked something but don't have enough money for it you say well I like it but it what too much? 662: Costs too much {NW} interviewer: And when it's time to pay your bill you say your bill is? 662: Due interviewer: And if you belong to a club you have to pay your? 662: Dues interviewer: And if you don't have any money you could go to the bank and? 662: Borrow interviewer: And you say in the thirties money was? 662: Scarce interviewer: And you know some places if if you buy something or pay your bills some store keepers will give you a little extra? 662: lagniappe {C: French} interviewer: mm-kay do they still do that or? 662: Um not too much anymore. interviewer: Did it was it common when you were young? 662: Well say like this little store right here if you go pay your bills she'll give you a few packs of gum for the kids and stuff like that you know. interviewer: Just sort of valueless 662: It's little small independent stores. I mean you know the big chain stores have taken over everything but the little independent grocery stores and stuff like that or the old established furniture stores if you bought a sofa you got a free lamp they will give you a lamp you know or something like that. interviewer: So it's just still common in some of the small 662: Yeah interviewer: places? 662: Right interviewer: And you say a child ran down the spring board and what into the water? 662: Dove interviewer: mm-kay you say several children have? 662: Several children have dove into the water dived. interviewer: mm-kay and you say that I was too scared to? 662: To dive interviewer: And if you dive and hit the water flat you call that a? 662: Belly bust interviewer: mm-kay and you say he what across? 662: Swam interviewer: mm-kay say several children have? 662: Swam interviewer: mm-kay and you say um children like to? 662: Swim interviewer: And if you don't know how to swim and you get in the water you might? 662: Drown interviewer: And you say yesterday he? 662: Drowned interviewer: And I wasn't there so I didn't see him he had? 662: Drowned interviewer: And say a child puts her head on the ground and then turns a what? 662: Say that again. interviewer: Say a child puts her head on the ground and turns a? 662: Tumble set interviewer: mm-kay and what does a baby do before it can walk? 662: Crawl interviewer: And you say she walked up to the alter and she what down? 662: Knelt down interviewer: And if you were tired you might say I think I'll go? 662: Lie down interviewer: And you say he was really sick he couldn't even sit up all morning he what in bed he? 662: {C: Laughter} Stayed in bed. interviewer: mm-kay you say he laid in bed? 662: #1 Laid # interviewer: #2 yeah # 662: yeah interviewer: Huh? 662: Laid laid in bed. interviewer: mm-kay and talking about things you see in your sleep you say this is what I? 662: Dream interviewer: And often when I go to sleep I? 662: Dream interviewer: But I usually can't remember what I? 662: Dream Dreamt {C: Laughing} interviewer: Okay and you say I dreamed I was falling but just when I was about to hit the ground I? 662: Woke up interviewer: mm-kay and to get something to move away from you? 662: Push interviewer: And if you bring your foot down heavy on the floor you say you? 662: Stomp interviewer: And say if you see a friend of yours um leaving the party or something on foot you might say may I what you home? 662: Drive you interviewer: mm-kay do you ever say carry you home or take you home? 662: Take you home yeah. interviewer: mm-kay 662: #1 Give you # interviewer: #2 and # 662: a lift. interviewer: You tell a child that stove it hot so? 662: Don't touch interviewer: And if you needed a hammer you'd tell someone go? 662: Get me a hammer. interviewer: And say if you had a sack of groceries and didn't have your car you'd say you picked it up and? 662: Carried it interviewer: Anything else you'd say besides carried it? 662: No interviewer: Did you ever say you lugged it or packed it or toted it? 662: Uh uh interviewer: Did you ever hear any of those? 662: Yeah not often though. interviewer: What what would some people around here say? 662: I carried it down here the people would say I carried it you know. When you lug something you you're not carrying it you just about dragging it you know it would be something heavy. interviewer: Uh huh would you ever say you packed something or toted it? #1 Did you ever hear # 662: #2 In # reference to carry? interviewer: mm-hmm 662: uh uh interviewer: And a game that children play where one child would be it and the other children will hide? 662: Tag hide-and-seek interviewer: mm-kay what do you call the trees that you can touch and be safe? 662: Home interviewer: mm-kay and in football you run towards the? 662: Goal post interviewer: mm-kay and say if you were about to punish a child he might ask you not to punish him just give me one more? 662: Chance interviewer: And say if we were planning to meet some place I might say well if I get there first I'll wait? 662: For you interviewer: And say if someone always catches on to a joke you say he's got a good sense of? He always sees the funny side in things. 662: Oh a good sense of humor. interviewer: And {NW} you say he didn't actually know what was going on but he what he knew it all? He 662: Thought interviewer: Or meaning he pretended he knew it all you'd say he? You say he acted as if he knew it all or? 662: Yeah interviewer: made out like he 662: Yeah he acted as if he knew it all. interviewer: mm-kay and say a child left a pencil on a desk and came back and didn't find it there you'd say I bet somebody? 662: Stole interviewer: mm-kay and say something there was something bad that you expected to happen like someone was walking along the top of a fence and you expected them to fall off and hurt themself and then someone comes in and says they have fallen off you'd say well I just what that was going to happen? 662: I just knew it was gonna happen. interviewer: mm-kay and something that a child plays with you'd call a? 662: Toy interviewer: Would you ever call it a play {D:frottie}? And say if um if I ask you when are y'all going to Miami you'd say well right now we're what to go next week? We're 662: Planning interviewer: mm-kay do you ever say we're aiming to go or we're fixing to go? 662: {NW} Very seldom. interviewer: What? 662: Oh fixing yeah I'm fixing to do this. You know not aiming though. interviewer: mm-hmm does fixing mean in the future or does it mean immediate? 662: It could mean both as far as I've I'm concerned. interviewer: Would you say we're fixing to do this a week from now? 662: It means you're gonna you're going to do it. interviewer: mm-hmm 662: You know interviewer: But would you use it to mean in the oh say a week from now? 662: Yeah interviewer: And say if a child has learned something new like maybe she learned to whistle her parents might ask who? 662: taught you how to whistle? interviewer: mm-kay do you ever say who learned you? 662: Uh uh {C:Laughing} interviewer: And if you wanted to brighten up your room for a party you'd go out in the yard and if you have a lot of things growing out there. 662: Cut some flowers. interviewer: mm-kay or you didn't say you cut them you say you? 662: Picked them interviewer: mm-kay and a child that is always running and telling on the other children 662: Tattle tale interviewer: mm-kay did you ever use that word to talk about a grownup? 662: No that's a gossip {C:Cough} interviewer: What about the word pimp? Did you ever hear the word pimp meaning a tattle tale? 662: No I've heard it used for other things. interviewer: What did you hear it for? 662: Solicit for a prostitute. interviewer: Do you ever hear it as say to call a a pet child do you ever hear it like your favorite child you know you're pet? 662: The pet yeah. interviewer: You ever hear it called the pimp? 662: Uh uh interviewer: And say if you had a question I might say well I don't know the answer to your question you better go what somebody else? 662: Ask interviewer: So you say so then I? 662: Asked interviewer: mm-kay and you say you've already? 662: Asked interviewer: mm-kay and you say I have just what him a letter? 662: Written interviewer: mm-kay yesterday he? 662: Wrote interviewer: And tomorrow I'll? 662: Write interviewer: And you say I wrote him as time I was getting a? 662: Wait I can't my mind wandered again. interviewer: I wrote him and I expect to get a? 662: Reply interviewer: mm-kay or if you ask a question? 662: You get an answer. interviewer: And you put the letter in the envelope and you take out your pen and you? 662: Address it interviewer: mm-kay do you ever hear uh old fashion way of saying that? 662: mm-mm interviewer: Did you ever hear of back the letter? 662: mm-mm interviewer: And you say well I was gonna write him but I didn't know his? 662: Address interviewer: And um say you can't get through there cause the highway departments got their machines in and the road's all? 662: Blocked interviewer: Or talking about tearing it up you say the road is all? 662: Torn up interviewer: And you give someone a bracelet you want to see how it looks on her so you say why don't you? 662: Try it on. interviewer: Or the opposite of take it off is? 662: Put it on. interviewer: And say if I asked you how long you lived here in this area you'd say I've? What lived here I've? 662: I've lived here all my life interviewer: Or I've al-? 662: I've always lived here. interviewer: mm-kay or you say he moved here in 1960 and he's lived here ever? 662: Since interviewer: And you say that wasn't an accident he did that? 662: On purpose interviewer: And you say those little boys get mad and what each other? 662: Oh hit interviewer: Or 662: Fight interviewer: mm-kay and you say ever since they were small they have? 662: Always fought interviewer: mm-kay and you'd say she what him with a big knife? 662: Stabbed interviewer: And say a a teacher goes into a classroom and finds a picture on the blackboard she might ask who? 662: Who drew this? interviewer: mm-kay and if you wanted to lift something heavy like a piece of machinery up on a roof you could use pulley blocks and a rope to? 662: Lift it interviewer: mm-kay do you ever say to hoist it? 662: Hoist yeah I was about to say that. interviewer: Huh? 662: I was about to say hoist. interviewer: mm-kay and now can you start counting slowly? 662: One two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen interviewer: And the number after nineteen? 662: Twenty interviewer: And after twenty-six? 662: Twenty-seven interviewer: And twenty-nine? 662: Thirty interviewer: Thirty-nine? 662: Forty interviewer: Sixty-nine? 662: Seventy interviewer: Ninety-nine? 662: One hundred interviewer: Nine hundred ninety nine? 662: One thousand interviewer: And ten times one hundred thousand? 662: {C:laughing} Ten times one hundred thousand I don't interviewer: #1 It's one? # 662: #2 know # Million interviewer: mm-kay say if you have a line of people the person at the head of the line would be the? 662: Leader interviewer: Or the what man? The? There's eleven people in line the last man is the eleventh man. 662: He's the tail end. interviewer: Uh huh 662: I don't getcha. He's at the head. interviewer: Uh huh he's not the eleventh he's the? 662: Oh he's the first. interviewer: Okay who's behind the first? 662: The second. interviewer: Okay keep going. 662: Third Fourth Fifth Sixth Seventh Eighth Ninth Tenth Eleventh interviewer: And you say sometimes you feel you get your good luck just a little at a time but your bad luck comes all? 662: At one time. interviewer: Or all at? At what? 662: All the time. All at one time. I don't know. interviewer: Well you could say at one time or you could say all at? 662: I don't know. interviewer: And if you said something um more than one time you'd be saying it? 662: Twice interviewer: And would you name the months of the year? 662: January February March April May June July August September October November December interviewer: And the days of the week? {NW} 662: Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday interviewer: And what does Sabbath mean? 662: That's Sunday the day of rest. {NW} interviewer: And if you meet someone during the early part of the day what do you say as the greeting? 662: Good morning interviewer: And how long does morning last? 662: Til noon interviewer: And then you have? 662: Afternoon the noon afternoon yeah. interviewer: mm-kay um then how long does afternoon last? 662: Til six interviewer: And then you'd have? 662: Evening interviewer: And how long does that last? 662: I don't know I've always wondered. {C: laughter} I guess 'til eight. {C:Laughing} interviewer: Until it gets dark or? 662: I don't know I. interviewer: {C:Laughing} 662: Night {C:Laughing} night would be darkness I guess. interviewer: Uh huh say if um if you were leaving somebody around eleven oh clock in the day would you would you say anything as you were leaving them? Would you have an expression you know? 662: At eleven oh clock? interviewer: mm-hmm 662: No interviewer: Do you ever say good day to people? 662: No I always say see you later. interviewer: mm-kay and what about if you are leaving somebody's house after dark? You'd tell them? 662: Good night interviewer: And you say we had to get up and start work before? #1 Before the sun was shining? # 662: #2 sun # rise interviewer: mm-kay and we worked until? 662: Dusk interviewer: Or until s-? 662: Sunset interviewer: mm-kay and you say this morning I saw the sun? 662: Rise interviewer: And at six oh clock the sun? 662: Sets interviewer: Or at six oh clock this morning the sun? 662: Rose oh man I'm I'm getting so lost now. {NW} Okay go ahead interviewer: You'd say when I got outside the sun had already? 662: Risen interviewer: And say if someone came on a Sunday not last Sunday but a week earlier than that you say he came here? 662: Sunday before last. interviewer: And what about if he's gonna leave not next Sunday but a week beyond that? 662: Sunday after next. interviewer: Okay would you ever say Sunday week or Sunday week? 662: Uh uh interviewer: And you say today is Saturday so Friday was? 662: Yesterday interviewer: And Sunday is? 662: Tomorrow interviewer: And if someone stayed from the first to the fifteenth you'd say he stayed about? How long? 662: Two weeks interviewer: Okay do you ever call that a fort night? 662: Uh uh interviewer: And if you wanted to know the time you'd ask somebody? 662: What time is it? interviewer: And if it was midway between seven oh clock and 8 oh clock you'd say that it's? 662: Seven thirty interviewer: Or another way of saying that? 662: Half past seven. interviewer: And if it was fifteen minutes later than seven thirty you'd say that it's? 662: Quarter to eight. interviewer: And if you had been doing something for a long time you'd say I've been doing that for quite a? 662: While interviewer: And you say 1973 was last year 1974 is? 662: This year interviewer: And if something happened on this day last year you'd say it happened exactly? 662: A year ago. interviewer: And the child's just had his third birthday you'd say he's? 662: Three years old. interviewer: And talking about um how tall um this you say this room's about how tall? 662: Eight feet tall interviewer: mm-kay and talking about the weather you'd look up at the sky and say I don't like the looks of those black? 662: Clouds interviewer: And on a day that the sun is shinning and there aren't any clouds you'd say that's a? What kind of day? 662: A beautiful day a sunny day. interviewer: mm-kay what about a day that's the sun isn't shinning? 662: Dreary interviewer: mm-kay and say if the clouds were getting thicker and thicker and you think it is gonna rain or something in a little while you say the weather is? 662: Getting bad interviewer: Uh huh would you ever say it's turning or threatening or breaking or gathering? 662: mm-mm interviewer: And if the clouds were um leaving and the sun was coming out you say it looks like it is going to? 662: Clear up interviewer: And you say it was so cold last night that the lake? 662: Froze interviewer: mm-kay what if it just froze around the edges you'd say it? 662: Froze around the edges {C:laughing} interviewer: Do you ever say it {D:skimmed} over 662: I've never heard that. interviewer: You say it is so cold that the pipes did what? 662: Froze interviewer: And 662: The pipes the pipes frozen and how did the pipes busted that's what we say the pipes busted last night. interviewer: #1 You say I was gonna do something # 662: #2 Instead of saying burst. # interviewer: Uh huh I was gonna do something about them but the pipes had already? 662: Busted interviewer: Cause the water had? 662: Frozen interviewer: And if it gets any colder the pipes will? 662: Freeze up interviewer: And 662: Bust interviewer: And if it is cold enough to kill the tomatoes and flowers you say last night we had a? 662: Frost interviewer: What about something harder than a frost? 662: Hard freeze interviewer: mm-kay and a whole lot of rain that just suddenly comes down? 662: I don't know. A sudden shower. interviewer: mm-kay what if it's if it's just harder than than a shower though? 662: Thunder storm interviewer: mm-kay does that have thunder and lightening in it? 662: mm-hmm interviewer: What about um when it's just 662: No thunder no lightening just a down pour? interviewer: mm-kay 662: {C:Laughing} interviewer: And what about something um is a shower very hard or does it last long or what? 662: A shower doesn't last long it's a passing thing. interviewer: What about something that just sort of lasts all day? 662: An all day rain. interviewer: mm-kay what about something finer than a shower? 662: Drizzle interviewer: mm-kay what's a drizzle like? 662: Light drops interviewer: Do you ever talk about sprinkle? 662: A drizzle and a sprinkle is the same thing. interviewer: mm-hmm what about drops so fine you can hardly see them? 662: Mist interviewer: mm-kay and you say all night long the wind? 662: Blew {C:Coughing} interviewer: It was bad last night but in years past it has? 662: Blown interviewer: mm-kay um you say it started to rain and the wind began to? 662: Blow interviewer: If the wind is from this direction you say that it's? 662: From the north. interviewer: And the wind half way between south and west? 662: Southwest interviewer: mm-kay and between south and east? 662: Southeast interviewer: And east and north? 662: Northeast interviewer: And west and north? 662: Northwest interviewer: And if the winds had been gentle and were gradually getting stronger you'd say it was? 662: Picking up interviewer: mm-kay what if it had been strong and is getting weaker? 662: Dying down {C:Cough} interviewer: And um if no rain comes for weeks and weeks you'd say your having a? 662: Drought interviewer: And um if you get up in the morning and can't see across the road you call that a? 662: Fog interviewer: And a day like that? Would be a? 662: Foggy day interviewer: mm-kay